Breitbart’s Ben Shapiro Pretends to Care About a Murdered Black Teenager

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Today in the aftermath of the acquittal of George Zimmerman, gloating right wingers like Ben “Friends of Hamas” Shapiro are pretending to care about a black teenager found shot to death in Chicago.

Is there anyone stupid enough to believe Shapiro and his fellow Breitbrats actually give one solitary shit about Darryl Green? Of course not. He’s a convenient foil for Shapiro’s standard race-baiting schtick.

So why are they putting on this transparently phony act?

Because they assume without evidence that he was shot by another African American. This lets them rant and rave about “black on black” crime in openly racist terms, and the Breitbart audience is responding like Pavlov’s dogs, of course, with hundreds of ugly comments.

Shapiro mockingly titles his sick little post: Justice for Darryl.

These really are horrible, horrible people, posturing and trying to make political points over the bodies of dead children. Every time Shapiro posts at breitbart.com, he demonstrates why African Americans and Latinos and Asians and every other minority in this country rejects his backward ideology. Keep up the good work, Ben.

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233 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:02:44am

CHICAGO HAZ TEH TUFFEST GUN CONTROL LAWS IN TEH HOLE COUNTRIE AND THEIR IZ SO MUCH MURDER IN CHICAGO BECAWZ UV OBAMA!!11!!!!

2 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:04:34am

Black people are well-aware that most murders of black people are from other black people.

I wonder how many Breitbart users believe black people kill more white people than white people do.

3 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:04:39am

“These really are horrible, horrible people. Every time Shapiro posts at Breitbart.com, he demonstrates why African Americans and Latinos and Asians and every other minority in this country rejects his backward ideology. Keep up the good work, Ben.”

Yes. If I believed in the devil, I’d say they were doing his work for him.

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:05:50am
5 bubba zanetti  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:07:44am

I guess Benji Boy suddenly doesn’t have the time to trawl up pictures of various “Darryl Green”s in hoodies, sagging, or anything else vaguely urban.

6 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:09:07am

I will never vote Republican because I know who and what most of them are. I hate these people with the white hot heat of a thousand suns.

7 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:11:45am

re: #6 moderatelyradicalliberal

I will never vote Republican because I know who and what most of them are. I hate these people with the white hot heat of a thousand suns.

See!! See! That’s why we shouldn’t pander to your kind.

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:13:02am

re: #3 Justanotherhuman

“These really are horrible, horrible people. Every time Shapiro posts at Breitbart.com, he demonstrates why African Americans and Latinos and Asians and every other minority in this country rejects his backward ideology. Keep up the good work, Ben.”

Yes. If I believed in the devil, I’d say they were doing his work for him.

Instead, they are Babbitts happily carrying the water and doing the dirty work for the Kochs, ALEC and the rest.

9 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:13:56am
10 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:17:26am

OT:

Shortest phone call of the week:

Phone rings
-Hello?
-pause, then recorded voice: Hello, please stay on the line for an important call from Newt Gingrich.
*click*

11 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:17:42am

re: #9 Charles Johnson

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12 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:19:07am

re: #4 Charles Johnson

But..How can this be??/// Black on Black crime protests??/?? Everyone knows that only Ben Shapiro and Republicans care about black on black crime and no one else has ever been concerned about it!!!!111!!!!

13 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:19:40am

All this false equivalence starts with people forgetting—or omitting—that the Martin shooting gained attention precisely because there was no investigation.

14 Political Atheist  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:20:01am

From downstairs

There are some out there who are disappointed we don’t have mass violence over this. GFY every one of you, and your ratings baiting talkshow/blog pals.

Brietbartians this means you.

15 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:21:04am

If this doesn’t convince more AA that the conservative movement cares about them and that should vote Repub I don’t know what will. //

16 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:22:38am

This is the kind of bullshit and lies O’Mara promulgated in the defense of Zimmerman. Don’t tell me he didn’t poison the jury pool with it, either. All of it was designed to make a 16 yr old boy look like a hoodlum, and he depended on the racism of that jury pool to come through with an acquittal.

No one can convince me otherwise.

gzlegalcase.com

17 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:22:53am

re: #15 Bulworth

If this doesn’t convince more AA that the conservative movement cares about them and that should vote Repub I don’t know what will. //

I know. It’s so hard to figure out why more minorities, women, and gays don’t vote Republican. It can only be the free stuff Dems give away.
//

18 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:25:03am

OK, went to urgent care to see about the pain in my foot. Doctor thinks it’s gout, prescribed some meds. Took first pill little while ago. Hope this works. However, I can report that the meds have a Happy Pill quality about them. So I’m not responsible for whatever I may tweet or post today. //

19 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:26:30am

re: #18 Bulworth

OK, went to urgent care to see about the pain in my foot. Doctor thinks it’s gout, prescribed some meds. Took first pill little while ago. Hope this works. However, I can report that the meds have a Happy Pill quality about them. So I’m not responsible for whatever I may tweet or post today. //

A “Get Out Of Jail Free” card, eh? Handy!

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:27:37am

re: #18 Bulworth

OK, went to urgent care to see about the pain in my foot. Doctor thinks it’s gout, prescribed some meds. Took first pill little while ago. Hope this works. However, I can report that the meds have a Happy Pill quality about them. So I’m not responsible for whatever I may tweet or post today. //

If it’s really gout, drinking cherry juice and eating cherries (fresh or dried, doesn’t matter) will help a lot.
Really.
Not an old wive’s tale…doctors often recommend cherries before prescribing medicine.

21 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:27:51am

re: #11 Gus

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This times a 1000.

22 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:28:04am

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

OK, thanks

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:29:10am

re: #22 Bulworth

OK, thanks

in the meantime…enjoy the happy pill effect!

24 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:29:15am

Obviously if more AA voted for true blue conservatives there would be far less black-on-black crime. Confirmed. FACT. ///

25 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:30:34am

VOMIT

26 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:30:58am

Major derpage over this.

27 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:31:25am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

Has the verdict relieved the troubled hearts?

28 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:31:25am

re: #26 Gus

Major derpage over this.

Tweet would help…

29 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:31:40am

Seriously what the hell is Shapiro’s problem. Yes, black on black crime happens. And this case is sad. Does it make Zimmerman getting off scot free better? No it doesn’t and as Gus’s post pointed out, no one tries to rationalize a murder of a white person by saying white on white murders happen. Shapiro is showing again why conservatives are hopeless at understanding the issues important to minority communities because they like being heartless dicks who care more about hating liberals than making the world a better place.

30 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:31:52am

Hey, wah happen? Protected Tweets don’t post?

Link.

31 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:32:06am

re: #25 Vicious Babushka

VOMIT

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and who fired the fatal rounds dipshit.

32 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:32:12am

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

What I remember about it was, there was no investigation, then something to do with a stand your ground law and the fact it killed a teenager walking through his dads neighborhood.

I remember there were some neighbors initially interviewed that said Zimmerman took his neighborhood safety watch way too seriously which caused some concern. Then there was the whole question about the boy not being armed, the police telling Zimmerman not to get out of the car, but he did. Why did he get out of his car with a loaded weapon?

In the beginning I expected gun nuts and crypto racists to blame the boy but not the entire right wing!

Maybe some of that info turned out not to be correct, but that’s what I remember and what outraged me about the lack of investigation.

33 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:33:19am

Well, what did that thug Travon expect, carrying a loaded gun into that quiet neighborhood. Oh wait….

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34 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:34:22am

Zimmerman’s Brother Calls Trayvon Martin a Gun-Running Dope Fiend

George Zimmerman’s brother, Robert, appeared on CNN this evening to discuss with Piers Morgan what the Zimmerman family has gone through after George Zimmerman killed (but did not murder) 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.

“I want to know if it’s true, and I don’t know if it’s true, that Trayvon Martin was looking to procure firearms, or growing marijuana, or looking to make lean,” he told Piers Morgan and Don Lemon.

35 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:34:41am

re: #30 Gus

Hey, wah happen? Protected Tweets don’t post?

Link.

Yes, it looks like tweets from accounts that are protected can’t be embedded.

36 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:35:02am

re: #32 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

Personally, I have a big problem with shooting an unarmed person. It’s just not done. My father instilled that in me from a very young age.

The only time you use a gun is if the other guy’s got one - maybe a knife. But that’s the only time you use deadly force.

That’s what I learned by the time I was seven.

37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:35:34am

re: #30 Gus

Hey, wah happen? Protected Tweets don’t post?

Link.

Wondering why Goldie’s tweets are protected.

38 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:35:44am

Makes sense. The whole point of protecting your Twitter account is because you want it to be private. If your tweets could be embedded that would defeat the purpose.

39 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:36:02am

re: #34 Kragar

Trevon was looking to buy a gun and smoke some weed. Probably. It would be irresponsible not to speculate. //

40 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:36:53am

re: #34 Kragar

Geezus. My wingnut brother in law use to run guns and still grows marijuana! And apparently very good marijuana, unfortunately, I am allergic to it!

41 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:37:10am

re: #34 Kragar

Zimmerman’s Brother Calls Trayvon Martin a Gun-Running Dope Fiend

Honestly, I hope if Treyvon’s family sues Zimmerman. I hope they ruin him. It’s bad enough for the Martins that Zimmerman got acquitted. It’s even worse that the Zimmermans want to continue to paint Treyvon as a terrible kid who deserved to die that night.

42 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:37:31am

re: #37 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wondering why Goldie’s tweets are protected.

This.

The racists of course thinks she meant open season on white because, well, they’re bigots.

43 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:38:20am
44 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:38:28am

re: #36 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I have a big problem with shooting an unarmed person. It’s just not done. My father instilled that in me from a very young age.

The only time you use a gun is if the other guy’s got one - maybe a knife. But that’s the only time you use deadly force.

That’s what I learned by the time I was seven.

Hell he could have threatened him with the gun. He didn’t have to shoot him. This is why I call Zimmerman a coward.

45 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:38:35am

re: #41 HappyWarrior

Honestly, I hope if Treyvon’s family sues Zimmerman. I hope they ruin him. It’s bad enough for the Martins that Zimmerman got acquitted. It’s even worse that the Zimmermans want to continue to paint Treyvon as a terrible kid who deserved to die that night.

A wrongful death lawsuit in a civil court should be in Zimmer’s future.

46 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:39:21am

re: #45 Kragar

A wrongful death lawsuit in a civil court should be in Zimmer’s future.

I hope so. IF the Goldmans can do that against O.J, I think the Martins should do the same for their son.

47 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:39:25am

re: #32 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

In the beginning I expected gun nuts and crypto racists to blame the boy but not the entire right wing!

You’ve just describe the entire right wing, as currently constituted. The Righties I know who seemed like reasonable people 10 years ago have either left the right behind (like Charles, or John Cole), or have bought into the insanity.

48 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:39:57am

How white people react to white on white crime? They hold 2nd Amendment gun rallies.

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:40:08am

re: #42 Gus

This.

The racists of course thinks she meant open season on white because, well, they’re bigots.

thanks

50 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:41:48am

re: #44 HappyWarrior

Hell he could have threatened him with the gun. He didn’t have to shoot him. This is why I call Zimmerman a coward.

Zimmerman is a coward, quite frankly.

As far as fisticuffs go, my dad taught me to fight hard and fight dirty. He was something of a street brawler in his youth, and had the broken nose to show for it. But from all accounts, he never once lost a fight, and sometimes against considerably larger opponents.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:42:49am

re: #45 Kragar

A wrongful death lawsuit in a civil court should be in Zimmer’s future.

It won’t be. Thank Florida law for that. With his acquittal for self-defense grounds, Zimmerman’s pretty much protected as that can’t be “wrongful”.

52 Skip Intro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:43:16am

re: #32 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

In the beginning I expected gun nuts and crypto racists to blame the boy but not the entire right wing!

Here’s a news flash for you. The Travon Martin trial - that’s how they see it -has shown that the entire right wing are crypto racists. We’ve already had ample proof that they’re misogynists to boot.

Since the right wing owns the Republican Party now, what I don’t understand is how any AA could ever vote Republican. Women are another issue, but I assume upbringing and fear are the two reasons why they stick with the GOP.

53 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:44:54am

re: #52 Skip Intro

Here’s a news flash for you. The Travon Martin trial - that’s how they see it -has shown that the entire right wing are crypto racists. We’ve already had ample proof that they’re misogynists to boot.

Since the right wing owns the Republican Party now, what I don’t understand is how any AA could ever vote Republican. Women are another issue, but I assume upbringing and fear are the two reasons why they stick with the GOP.

Hell forget about AA, I want to know how any thinking person with any brains or compassion votes for and supports the Republican Party.

54 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:45:18am

re: #34 Kragar

Zimmerman’s Brother Calls Trayvon Martin a Gun-Running Dope Fiend

What. The. Fuck.

I want to know if it’s true, and I don’t know if it’s true, that Zimmerman was following Trayvon because he looked young and Zimmerman offered to blow him, and then killed him when Trayvon told him to fuck off.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible NOT TO speculate!

55 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:45:25am
56 Skip Intro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:46:35am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Hell forget about AA, I want to know how any thinking person with any brains or compassion votes for and supports the Republican Party.

How about naming one? I used to vote Republican, all the way through BushII. Then I saw the light.

57 Skip Intro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:47:28am

re: #54 GeneJockey

What. The. Fuck.

I want to know if it’s true, and I don’t know if it’s true, that Zimmerman was following Trayvon because he looked young and Zimmerman offered to blow him, and then killed him when Trayvon told him to fuck off.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It would be irresponsible NOT TO speculate!

Apparently there’s no crap that CNN won’t run with these days.

58 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:47:42am

Rick Perry Reacts To Zimmerman Verdict: ‘I Think Our Justice System Is Color Blind’

Arguing on CNN Sunday Morning that the jury in the George Zimmerman case “made the right decision from their standpoint,” Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) dismissed any suggestion that America’s justice system is unfair to African-Americans or other people of color. In Perry’s words, “I think our justice system is color blind.” Watch it:

Perry’s claim that race plays no role in our justice system simply cannot be squared with the data from his own state. The most distinguishing aspect of Texas’ criminal justice system is its penchant for the death penalty. Over one third of all U.S. executions take place in Rick Perry’s state. Moreover, over 40 percent Texas’ death row inmates are black (121 out of 300 total inmates), despite the fact that only about 12 percent of Texans are African American. So a black Texan is more than three times more likely to be sentenced to die than their representation in Texas as a whole would suggest.

59 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:47:43am

re: #56 Skip Intro

How about naming one? I used to vote Republican, all the way through BushII. Then I saw the light.

I honestly can’t. Seems that being a Republican is about being one of two things these days: greedy as hell and not wanting to pay for anything or being bigoted as hell and not wanting to accept anyone who’s not like you.

60 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:48:58am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Hell forget about AA, I want to know how any thinking person with any brains or compassion votes for and supports the Republican Party.

A lot of folks convince themselves that the social issue stuff won’t actually get through, but that it’s better if people pay less taxes. I have neighbors who are great people, and in many ways reasonable, but who vote according to the supposition above.

I’m of the opposite position: I take politicians deadly fucking serious when they talk about sweeping changes to civil liberties and such.

61 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:49:03am

re: #59 HappyWarrior

I honestly can’t. Seems that being a Republican is about being one of two things these days: greedy as hell and not wanting to pay for anything or being bigoted as hell and not wanting to accept anyone who’s not like you.

or both.

62 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:49:52am

re: #53 HappyWarrior

Hell forget about AA, I want to know how any thinking person with any brains or compassion votes for and supports the Republican Party.

Denial. Having bought into the worst stereotypes about Lib’ruls, but refusing to see the racists and gun nuts for who they are.

It’s easy. Racism isn’t always Merle from The Walking Dead. Sometimes it’s Paula Deen, or your otherwise decent brother-in-law, or even the grandmother you dearly love.

63 bubba zanetti  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:50:27am

What? Crimes occur largely within your socioeconomic group? That’s unpossible!

64 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:51:46am

re: #61 Kragar

or both.

Indeed, indeed.

65 Skip Intro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:52:02am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

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What no one ever explained about Limbaugh’s drug use is how, if he was experiencing the excruciating back pain he claimed, he was able to go out and play 36 holes of golf each day after his show.

Anyone’s who’s ever tried to play golf with a bad back will tell you that there is no amount of drugs that will make it worth it.

Let’s face it: dope is fun and opiates make you feel great - for a while.

66 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:52:16am

re: #60 The Ghost of a Flea

I remember not too long ago on here, some posters would get very pissed off about anyone taking the social conservatives seriously by claiming they have never and will never get their social conservative agendas through.

67 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:53:19am

re: #62 GeneJockey

Denial. Having bought into the worst stereotypes about Lib’ruls, but refusing to see the racists and gun nuts for who they are.

What I find is that there’s a lot of people who only know about certain issues from a very wingnut source, and don’t want or don’t know how to investigate further.

Feminism being the most prominent case…where people seem to imagine all feminists are lock-step with Dworkin and Mary Daly, if not the SCUM Manifesto.

68 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:54:30am

re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea

Point for Warhol arcana.

69 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:54:49am

re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea

What I find is that there’s a lot of people who only know about certain issues from a very wingnut source, and don’t want or don’t know how to investigate further.

Feminism being the most prominent case…where people seem to imagine all feminists are lock-step with Dworkin and Mary Daly, if not the SCUM Manifesto.

Heh…..the SCUM Manifesto. That’s one I haven’t heard for a long time. Upding for the Warholian reference.

70 Decatur Deb  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:55:28am

re: #69 Dr Lizardo

19 seconds.

71 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 11:58:00am

I can’t even begin to imagine what Treyvon’s family is going through right now.

72 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:00:33pm

re: #67 The Ghost of a Flea

What I find is that there’s a lot of people who only know about certain issues from a very wingnut source, and don’t want or don’t know how to investigate further.

There’s that, and then there’s also a lot of false equivalency, and it’s all topped of with the inability of many to believe that the Right is really as crazy as they are. Once again I point to the survey where, presented with actual planks from the Republican platform, most poll respondents thought they were Liberal exaggerations

Feminism being the most prominent case…where people seem to imagine all feminists are lock-step with Dworkin and Mary Daly, if not the SCUM Manifesto.

Hence all those “Feminist, buts” one runs into.

And sadly, I must confess my ignorance of the Warhol reference. Fucking elitists!
//

73 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:01:12pm

re: #71 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

I can’t even begin to imagine what Treyvon’s family is going through right now.

Yeah, I know. I’m reading that SYG is making any civil suit practically impossible but what’s got to be the worst thing is Zimmerman’s brother going on CNN and calling him a gun running pot addict. The lack of empathy whatsoever shown to Martin’s family by Zimmerman’s supporters is angering. They just have to make Martin out ot be an evil kid to rationalize what happened. Even if Zimmerman was defending himself, it would still I think be proper to show some empathy but no they have to drag him through the mud some more and I have a feeling that this case is going to make Zimmerman and his attorney very wealthy men. I’m talking book deal, movie deal, guest appearances on the talk show circuit, etc.

74 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:02:30pm

re: #72 GeneJockey

And sadly, I must confess my ignorance of the Warhol reference. Fucking elitists!
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75 sagehen  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:03:15pm

re: #46 HappyWarrior

I hope so. IF the Goldmans can do that against O.J, I think the Martins should do the same for their son.

I don’t know Florida law, but in Cali the greater likelihood of winning civil when you’ve lost criminal is

1) Defendant in a civil case, after criminal case is over, has no 5th amendment right to refuse to testify. He *must* take the stand, he *must* answer whatever questions are put to him.

2) In a criminal case, the defendant loses only when the jury unanimously declares it’s beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case, the defendant loses when 3/4 of the jury declares it’s more likely than not.

76 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:03:24pm

There are stories I’m reading that civil rights leaders want DoJ to proceed with a prosecution of Zimmerman for violating Martin’s civil rights but they’d have to prove that Zimmerman went after him because of his race beyond a reasonable doubt and while I am inclined to believe that Zimmerman did profile Martin, it’s hard to prove that in a court.

77 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:04:44pm

re: #71 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

I can’t even begin to imagine what Treyvon’s family is going through right now.

As someone who has family & friends who have gone through something similar…I do.
Devastating doesn’t even begin to describe it.

78 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:10:47pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I know. I’m reading that SVG is making any civil suit practically impossible but what’s got to be the worst thing is Zimmerman’s brother going on CNN and calling him a gun running pot addict. The lack of empathy whatsoever shown to Martin’s family by Zimmerman’s supporters is angering. They just have to make Martin out ot be an evil kid to rationalize what happened. Even if Zimmerman was defending himself, it would still I think be proper to show some empathy but no they have to drag him through the mud some more and I have a feeling that this case is going to make Zimmerman and his attorney very wealthy men. I’m talking book deal, movie deal, guest appearances on the talk show circuit, etc.

We can’t go admitting that the armed man had shitty discernment in his application of lethal force. That goes against the narrative of good guys with guns stopping bad guys.

And, yes, I have this sick Hammer-horror feeling that the Zimmermans are going to rake in cash from this.

79 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:10:53pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m sorry.

80 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:12:14pm

re: #78 The Ghost of a Flea

We can’t go admitting that the armed man had shitty discernment in his application of lethal force. That goes against the narrative of good guys with guns stopping bad guys.

And, yes, I have this sick Hammer-horror feeling that the Zimmermans are going to rake in cash from this.

I hope he gets paid enough to do something monumentally stupid.

81 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:12:32pm

re: #78 The Ghost of a Flea

We can’t go admitting that the armed man had shitty discernment in his application of lethal force. That goes against the narrative of good guys with guns stopping bad guys.

And, yes, I have this sick Hammer-horror feeling that the Zimmermans are going to rake in cash from this.

As sickening as I find it, yeah, Zimmerman will likely make a ton of $$$ off this.

82 blueraven  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:12:37pm

re: #73 HappyWarrior

Yeah, I know. I’m reading that SYG is making any civil suit practically impossible but what’s got to be the worst thing is Zimmerman’s brother going on CNN and calling him a gun running pot addict. The lack of empathy whatsoever shown to Martin’s family by Zimmerman’s supporters is angering. They just have to make Martin out ot be an evil kid to rationalize what happened. Even if Zimmerman was defending himself, it would still I think be proper to show some empathy but no they have to drag him through the mud some more and I have a feeling that this case is going to make Zimmerman and his attorney very wealthy men. I’m talking book deal, movie deal, guest appearances on the talk show circuit, etc.

They never had a SYG hearing so I don’t think that statute applies. Maybe they can still be granted immunity with a SYG hearing but I don’t know.

83 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:13:27pm

Gotta post it again.

84 Kragar  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:14:29pm

Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents

“I hope that this is the end,” Rove said. “President Obama politicized this at the beginning of it, I believe, unfortunately, by injecting himself into it and saying that if Trayvon Martin — that if he’d have had a son it would look like Trayvon Martin.”

“We need a president to bring us together, not rip us apart,” he added. “And I hope the Justice Department does not respond to the ill-advised recommendation of the NAACP to continue this controversy.”

85 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:14:58pm

re: #82 blueraven

They never had a SYG hearing so I don’t think that statute applies. Maybe they can still be granted immunity with a SYG hearing but I don’t know.

I’m not sure. Just read on buzzfeed with quotes from Florida legal experts saying that even though SYG wasn’t part of the defense, it could still be used in his defense at a civil case for wrongful death.

86 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:15:41pm
87 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:15:51pm

re: #84 Kragar

Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents

Yeah how dare he sympathize with parents of someone who’s child was killed. Fuck you Karl. You may be one of the “rational ones” but I haven’t forgotten your role in the race baiting that got Bush the SC primary win against McCain.

88 GeneJockey  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:16:57pm

re: #71 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

I can’t even begin to imagine what Treyvon’s family is going through right now.

I have some idea what my sister and her husband went through when their teenaged son died in a ski racing accident. It was bad, deep, prolonged. Constant reminders that he wasn’t there anymore, that all their hopes for him were gone, that they’d never, ever see him again.

But he died doing something he loved, knowing he was taking some risks. Trayvon died walking home from the goddam store.

And after Rob died, nobody dug into his life to try to prove he deserved to die, and certainly not a significant portion of the US population, and my sister never had to see people saying he lived a thug’s life and died a thug’s death. And she never had to endure the crushed hope of seeing his killer acquitted, followed by celebrations and the further slandering of her son.

So, take the worst psychological pain you can imagine, and multiply it. Then drag it out.

89 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:17:22pm

DERP

When (if) Traycon said “Yer gonna die!” was he planning to feed Zimmerman Skittles until he got diabetes?

90 blueraven  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:17:27pm

re: #85 HappyWarrior

I’m not sure. Just read on buzzfeed with quotes from Florida legal experts saying that even though SYG wasn’t part of the defense, it could still be used in his defense at a civil case for wrongful death.

I think it probably could IF they have a SYG hearing first and he is granted immunity. But at this point they have not been granted that immunity from civil (or criminal) prosecution.

91 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:19:03pm

re: #84 Kragar

Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents

Remember—society is supposed to be color-blind.

That way, racists can do what they want and the rest of society can pretend it’s not happening.

That way, it’s just whiny people being a pain in the ass when black and brown people point out there’s still systematic discrimination.

Color-blindness is white people getting to remain in a privilege bubble, and brown people being pooh-poohed.

92 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:19:11pm

re: #84 Kragar

These people will not take responsibility for anything!

93 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:20:11pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

In Matt Barber’s world, any black teenager near pavement is a deadly threat.

94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:20:16pm

re: #79 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

I’m sorry.

thank you.
The first time, back in the early 70s, it was a very close friend of mine and I was a basketcase and thought…this only happens to other people. Then years passed and I began to believe that it was a one-off.
Since then, it has happened so often that I’m afraid of becoming numb.
And, while only personally anecdotal, all of them have been white-on-white events and most have been drug-related and/or the person responsible had “friends in high places”.
This is not an urban area either.
I don’t know if this uptick in violent behavior is actually “new” or if it’s just that we hear more about it now then back in the day before 24 hour news and the internet.

95 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:21:50pm

re: #77 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just want to hug Trayvon’s whole family. Which would be weird since I’m a perfect stranger, but the depths of their sorrow is something I wouldn’t wish on anyone. His mom is far more together than I would be in her shoes.

On the flip side of this, something no one mentions is how completely unhealthy it is to allow this nastiness to go unchecked. Not only for the victims of such awfulness but also for the overall mental health of the perpetrator. We see lots of examples of this all around us, the results of unchecked bullying and abusive behavior in a culture that rewards such things and views compassion and caring as weak and stupid, for suckers. This is why I think the media needs to be called on this shit too, they’re perpetuating the disease by letting GZ’s brother get on their channel and spew this shit about Trayvon, none of which is based in fact.

Sometimes I think our protests and massive outcry really should be directed at the media before anyone else feels the heat. A couple hundred thousand people outside the CNN offices and thousands upon thousands more phone calls might make a dent. This country also should have a serious talk about what it is we find so entertaining about people ripping one another to shreds. It’s not at all healthy for our overall well being as a nation. I think it contributes to feelings of alienation and sadness, it’s not a good thing at all.

96 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:22:06pm

re: #84 Kragar

Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents

“President Obama politicized this at the beginning of it, I believe, unfortunately, by injecting himself into it and saying that if Trayvon Martin — that if he’d have had a son it would look like Trayvon Martin.”

“It”?

97 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:23:09pm

This B@bette person is fucked up.

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:23:15pm

re: #86 Gus


That just takes my sadness to another level.

99 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:23:22pm

re: #96 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

“It”?

Good catch.

100 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:24:25pm
101 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:25:08pm

re: #89 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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When (if) Traycon said “Yer gonna die!” was he planning to feed Zimmerman Skittles until he got diabetes?

I guess Barber never got in a fight with his siblings ever as a child. Oh and asshole Martin was unarmed. I don’t care if he threatened to cut off Zimmerman’s head. Zimmerman had a fucking gun. He didn’t need to shoot Martin. Hell he could have threatened him even but he did not need to shoot Martin.

102 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:25:31pm

I think their definition of “it” in this case is:

Used to represent an inanimate thing understood, previously mentioned, about to be mentioned, or present in the immediate context: It has whitewall tires and red upholstery. You can’t tell a book by its cover.
~Dictionary.com

103 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:25:47pm
Those claiming there is a lack of outrage about black-on-black violence have clearly spent zero time in/covering any black community. are racist shitheels

Those claiming there is a lack of outrage about black-on-black violence are puerile racist antagonists if not outright racists. Or at the very least, ideologically predisposed to having any empathy or understanding to those not like them.

The highs of seeing gays come closer to equality the last few weeks have receded due to backwards ass GOP cavemen obsessed with Taliban legislation and now racist dickwads gloating about a dead black kid who didn’t deserve it.

104 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:26:53pm

re: #100 Vicious Babushka

Matt Barber is offended. Deeply offended. He will rise up one day and overcome “The man”.

105 JeffFX  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:27:12pm

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

106 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:27:41pm

re: #97 Vicious Babushka

This B@bette person is fucked up.

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Wut? Michael Hastings? Wut, wut?

107 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:28:31pm

I keep seeing that Zimmerman is justified in shooting Martin because ‘his head was being bashed into concrete.’ Am I missing something? The fistfight/wrestling match happened on a grassy area.

Just little white lies help along the justification, no?

108 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:28:48pm

Of course, in right wing world, calling a white person a cracker is the same as using the n-word at a black person.

109 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:29:25pm

re: #107 BigPapa

I keep seeing that Zimmerman is justified in shooting Martin because ‘his head was being bashed into concrete.’ Am I missing something? The fistfight/wrestling match happened on a grassy area.

Just little white lies help along the justification, no?

Anything to rationalize Zimmerman acting like a thug.

110 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:29:48pm

re: #106 Gus

Wut? Michael Hastings? Wut, wut?

Wingnuts insist that Obama had Hastings “taken out”…

111 JeffFX  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:29:55pm

re: #100 Vicious Babushka

112 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:31:49pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Of course, in right wing world, calling a white person a cracker is the same thing as most awful oppression against white people EVER and using the n-word at a black person is exercising their freedom of speech and the right to be politically incorrect.

FTFY.

113 Internet Tough Guy  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:33:33pm

re: #84 Kragar

Rove: Obama ‘ripped us apart’ by sympathizing with Trayvon’s parents

Karl and his friends better hope nothing happens to President Obama.

114 lawhawk  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:33:55pm

re: #107 BigPapa

Apparently so. As that screencap from MSNBC revealed, Martin was found on a grassy area. The incident may have started in a concrete area (sidewalk/driveway or street), but it clearly ended up on a lawn.

And I find the whole notion that the sidewalk as a deadly weapon to be complete nonsense. That’s like saying that any inanimate object is a deadly weapon. Push someone up against a tree? Deadly weapon. Against a wall? Deadly weapon. A push into the pool? Deadly weapon.

It is most certainly not a deadly weapon.

115 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:34:11pm

re: #112 Dr Lizardo

FTFY.

True, true. “I’m just a politically incorrect person, don’t call me a bigot because I don’t accept political correctness” pretty much the excuse of any right winger called out for bigotry.

116 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:34:53pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Youtube Video

117 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:35:17pm
118 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:36:45pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

Someone on the radio made a great point the other day. It went like this:

“As a test to see what the difference between the two words are, I will say this first: Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker. Now, I will say another word (insert several bleeped out mentions of the other word in this stupid conversation). The difference is if I say Cracker, life for me on the radio stays the same. I say the other nasty word, I get fined and most likely lose my job. Why would that be ya think?”

There also used to be a baseball team called the Atlanta Crackers. In Florida, there is a Cracker Museum, and it was used as another term for someone from Florida. No white person was offended by this until it became something to whine about because the offensive word was finally deemed offensive by people with some damned sense and compassion. Racists NEED to be victims, if they aren’t their racism has no fine veneer to hide behind anymore.

119 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:36:54pm

re: #116 DO WINGNUT WORDS SHOW THEY EVOLVED BRAINS?11!!

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One of the best around these days if you ask me.

120 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:37:09pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

True, true. “I’m just a politically incorrect person, don’t call me a bigot because I don’t accept political correctness” pretty much the excuse of any right winger called out for bigotry.

“I am deeply offended when black people remind me they’ve had different experiences than I, or when they show group solidarity, for reasons that totally aren’t racism.”

Because you’re sooo colorblind that you were immediate able to perceive that the black people were talking as blacks, not as people.

121 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:39:21pm

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

Well do you blame them??/?/? I mean finally, the days of scary roaming teenagers with there strange clothing with hoods and there lethal candy and such will have consequences!11111!!!!!1

//

122 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:39:34pm

Political Correctness in itself becomes the crime and not the original statements or sentiments expressed political correctness was meant to remedy.

Whining about PC is just teenage intellect reacting to being called on your bullshit.

If you whine about political correctness you might be a racist douchebag, or at least just ignorant and insensitive.

123 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:39:48pm

re: #86 Gus

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OH BOY!!!

124 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:40:13pm

re: #115 HappyWarrior

True, true. “I’m just a politically incorrect person, don’t call me a bigot because I don’t accept political correctness” pretty much the excuse of any right winger called out for bigotry.

Many years ago an acquaintance of mine went on an utterly unhinged racist rant, and when she saw I was getting pissed off, she used the “Sorry, I guess I’m just politically incorrect sometimes.”

To which I replied, “No, you’re just an asshole.”

125 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:40:21pm


Idiot.

126 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:40:35pm

re: #118 A Mom Anon

Someone on the radio made a great point the other day. It went like this:

“As a test to see what the difference between to two words are, I will say this first: Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker, Cracker. Now, I will say another word (insert several bleeped out mentions of the other word in this stupid conversation). The difference is if I say Cracker, life for me on the radio stays the same. I say the other nasty word, I get fined and most likely lose my job. Why would that be ya think?”

There also used to be a baseball team called the Atlanta Crackers. In Florida, there is a Cracker Museum, and it was used as another term for someone from Florida. No white person was offended by this until it became something to whine about because the offensive word was finally deemed offensive by people with some damned sense and compassion. Racists NEED to be victims, if they aren’t their racism has no fine veneer to hide behind anymore.

An editorial I saw put it this way. You’re called cracker, worst that happens is your feelings are probably upset. People were called that other word while being subjungated to slavery, lynchings, being second class citizens, etc. And frankly cracker doesn’t even bother me precisely because of the former since my race wasn’t subject to the above mentioned for generations by people using that word to imply that we were somehow less than human.

127 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:40:43pm


Idiot.

128 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:43:35pm

re: #127 Gus

People are spreading your sign around:

129 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:44:01pm

re: #2 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Black people are well-aware that most murders of black people are from other black people.

I wonder how many Breitbart users believe black people kill more white people than white people do.

All of them.

130 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:44:26pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

People who equate those also tend to blame the modern Democratic Party for the racism of the Democratic Party of 100 years ago. Historical context isn’t their strong suit.

131 Gus  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:44:50pm

re: #128 jaunte

People are spreading your sign around:

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I can haz unknown internet meme author status.

132 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:44:52pm

re: #127 Gus

There isn’t one damned thing President Obama could say or do at this point that would be right. He’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Dear god this country is full of spoiled fucking brats.

133 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:45:03pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

Many years ago an acquaintance of mine went on an utterly unhinged racist rant, and when she saw I was getting pissed off, she used the “Sorry, I guess I’m just politically incorrect sometimes.”

To which I replied, “No, you’re just an asshole.”

It’s an excuse. The thing though is these people are very PC about things sacred to them. Like these are people who get mad when a comic like teh above linked Louie C.K pokes fun at white people or when someone mocks their religion. So it’s not about being non-PC, it’s about being a bigot and using “not politically correct” as a means of excusing it. One of my favorite stories about my paternal grandfather whom I never knew was him severely repramiding my Dad for using that word to call my uncle. This was the mid 50’s and my dad was growing up in Jim Crow Virginia. It’s why I strive to be the man my grandfather was daily. A man ahead of his time who didn’t see people in labels like race but saw them as people. He truly is the best man I never knew.

134 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:45:45pm

re: #127 Gus

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Idiot.

The Left and the Right are all of the rails lately. The world has gone freaking mad.

135 funky chicken  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:46:48pm

re: #13 The Ghost of a Flea

All this false equivalence starts with people forgetting—or omitting—that the Martin shooting gained attention precisely because there was no investigation.

Well, to be fair, the cops tried to investigate and even called in the prosecutor, but the prosecutor told them to drop it.

136 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:48:17pm

re: #132 A Mom Anon

There isn’t one damned thing President Obama could say or do at this point that would be right. He’s damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t. Dear god this country is full of spoiled fucking brats.

Reactions to what Obama says are pretty much the acme of the “colorblind” bullshit being pedalled by rightwingers trying to cover for the vocal racists.

If he had made anything other his neutral statement, he’ll be pilloried for speaking as a black man, and the reaction is mouth-foaming and accusations of race-hustling.

It’s not just lose-lose for him, at the ur-example of how to discount anything a brown person says, while blaming them for their silencing.

137 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:48:49pm

re: #135 funky chicken

Well, to be fair, the cops tried to investigate and even called in the prosecutor, but the prosecutor told them to drop it.

this.

138 prairiefire  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:48:49pm

OT. Transmission busted in Clinton Ark! Taking a $400 taxi trip to Springfield, MO. Sounds like a Kris Kristofferson!

139 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:52:06pm

re: #134 BigPapa

140 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:55:54pm

re: #138 prairiefire

OT. Transmission busted in Clinton Ark! Taking a $400 taxi trip to Springfield, MO. Sounds like a Kris Kristofferson!

I’d be Pissed Pisstofferson.

141 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 12:58:40pm

Some good news, even if trivial.

FINALLY BAKED A BATCH OF FRENCH BREAD! Previous attempts resulted in grayish baseball bats.

OH NOM NOM.

142 Stanley Sea  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:00:16pm

re: #138 prairiefire

OT. Transmission busted in Clinton Ark! Taking a $400 taxi trip to Springfield, MO. Sounds like a Kris Kristofferson!

UGH. Hang in there. Make it an adventure! (Sounds like you are)

143 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:00:21pm
144 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:01:38pm

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

Disgusting racist pigs, and proud of it.

145 b_sharp  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:03:40pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

Disgusting racist pigs, and proud of it.

‘race realists’

The Bell Curve is their bible.

146 prairiefire  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:04:40pm

re: #140 BigPapa

I’d be Pissed Pisstofferson.

Ha!
I’m sure he would thumb it, but we’ve got 3 kids and a senior, a huuuuge passel of luggage

147 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:04:48pm

don’t feel much like commenting right now

this has been such a crappy month for civil rights in general

148 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:05:00pm

re: #114 lawhawk

Apparently so. As that screencap from MSNBC revealed, Martin was found on a grassy area. The incident may have started in a concrete area (sidewalk/driveway or street), but it clearly ended up on a lawn.

And I find the whole notion that the sidewalk as a deadly weapon to be complete nonsense. That’s like saying that any inanimate object is a deadly weapon. Push someone up against a tree? Deadly weapon. Against a wall? Deadly weapon. A push into the pool? Deadly weapon.

It is most certainly not a deadly weapon.

I dunno Lawhawk..If I held your head under water in a pool you will die..The pool wouldn’t be classified as a deadly weapon but it was used as an accessory in a murder. I didn’t hear the defense say that the sidewalk was a deadly weapon..But you can die having your head hit on a sidewalk.. Look at all the murder cases where somebody hit some one and they fell and busted up their head.
They are usually found guilty of Manslaughter..Which I think should have been the conviction..I think Murder 2 was a reach…
But Wait! This is Florida.. Anything can and will happen in the courts there. I never picked sides in this or any case coming from Florida..see Casey Anthony.
I would predict that if this would have happened in Oklahoma and Zimmerman didn’t shoot Martin the cops would have asked why George didn’t shoot him..You had a gun dumbass..Why didn’t you use it? I read the news here..Self defense is pretty easy to use here.. It’s an open carry state.. You get into a fight at your own peril. Everybody has a gun in Oklahoma.. I still laugh that the Banks have signs saying that guns are not allowed.. Wonder why?

149 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:07:27pm

re: #143 jaunte

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RW heads explode! Film at 11!

150 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:07:31pm

re: #147 engineer cat

don’t feel much like commenting right now

this has been such a crappy month for civil rights in genera.

I am beginning to think that any civil rights advancements were are brief fluke and now we are going back to the way things were.

151 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:08:08pm

Damn.. I’ve been here over 5 years! Time flies when you’re having fun ( On a great blog )

152 blueraven  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:08:08pm

re: #148 HoosierHoops

I didn’t hear the defense say that the sidewalk was a deadly weapon

Actually they did exactly that. O’Mara carried in a huge slab of concrete in closing arguments saying that was the weapon Trayvon used on Zimmerman.

153 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:09:24pm

MORAN

154 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:09:48pm

listening to fox coverage of it

zimmerman’s mother says “god is in control in the end”

fox commontatoes wondering why zimmerman appears subdued after the verdict, not looking happy

155 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:10:00pm

re: #152 blueraven

Actually they did exactly that. O’Mara carried in a huge slab of concrete in closing arguments saying that was the weapon Trayvon used on Zimmerman.

Whoops..Thanks for the clarification..

156 AntonSirius  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:10:55pm

re: #154 engineer cat

zimmerman’s mother says “god is in control in the end”

And that’s why your son is going to burn in hell, lady.

157 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:11:01pm
158 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:11:09pm

re: #154 engineer cat

listening to fox coverage of it

zimmerman’s mother says “god is in control in the end”

fox commontatoes wondering why zimmerman appears subdued after the verdict, not looking happy

Because hopefully that fat fuck knows that he is one of the most hated people on the planet and will be a child killer for the rest of his miserable life.

159 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:12:21pm

re: #153 Vicious Babushka

MORAN

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It really bothers me that a douchebag like Shapiro makes a lot more money than I do.

160 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:13:52pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

It really bothers me that a douchebag like Shapiro makes a lot more money than I do.

It bothers me even more that a douchebag like Ed Snowden was making a lot more money than I do IN THE SAME FIELD with LESS QUALIFICATIONS, EDUCATION & EXPERIENCE.

161 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:14:00pm

re: #153 Vicious Babushka

MORAN

DARVO

162 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:14:38pm

WTFITS
I don’t get this wingnut fixation on Valerie Jarrett, I don’t even know who she is?

163 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:15:44pm

re: #159 Eclectic Cyborg

It really bothers me that a douchebag like Shapiro makes a lot more money than I do.

You know, all you need to do to make that sweet, sweet wingnut $$$$ is just type Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! and you’ll be rollin’ in dough in no time.

Heck, you’ll probably have to buy a warehouse somewhere to store it all.

Seriously, these RW swine make me sick.

164 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:15:59pm

re: #162 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS
I don’t get this wingnut fixation on Valerie Jarrett, I don’t even know who she is?

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She’s a blah woman who was born in the middle east and works for President Obama…that’s all they care about.

165 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:17:18pm

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

You know, all you need to do to make that sweet, sweet wingnut $$$$ is just type Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! Ni-CLANG! and you’ll be rollin’ in dough in no time.

Heck, you’ll probably have to buy a warehouse somewhere to store it all.

Seriously, these RW swine make me sick.

Sell my soul to the devil? No thanks, I seek greater rewards in life than just money.

166 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:17:29pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s a blah woman who was born in the middle east and works for President Obama…that’s all they care about.

ZOMG! SHE’S THE ASSISTANT OF THE ANTICHRIST!

167 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:18:29pm

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

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Love ya Chris Rock..A dispatcher on 911 isn’t a cop nor have any legal authority.
I was told by a dispatcher to give mouth to mouth to a dead man once. I told her she was out of her fucking mind and I’ll wait for the medics to arrive. They didn’t give mouth to mouth either. He was already dead and I didn’t break the law by refusing her directions.

168 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:18:41pm
169 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:19:19pm

re: #165 Eclectic Cyborg

Sell my soul to the devil? No thanks, I seek greater rewards in life than just money.

I hear you. The sad thing is, I’m sure it’s not just a cynical get-rich-quick scheme by folks like Ben Shapiro; they really believe the foul dreck that they’re writing.

170 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:20:08pm

Erik Rush: Obama Is Murdering Everyone And I Don’t Need Evidence To Prove It

“…much like the debunked Clinton Body Count claims of old, the WorldNetDaily columnist asserts that Obama killed his gay lovers and drowned a woman who may have “come by information on the night of the [Aurora] shooting that wound up being detrimental to her health.” According to Rush, Obama also killed journalist Michael Hastings, an identity theft criminal, his dog trainer, Ambassador Christopher Stevens and Andrew Breitbart (of course).”
rightwingwatch.org

171 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:20:35pm

re: #169 Dr Lizardo

Maybe because they read each others work.

172 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:20:40pm

re: #164 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s a blah woman who was born in the middle east and works for President Obama…that’s all they care about.

Yes, born in the middle east of American parents. en.wikipedia.org

173 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:21:50pm

re: #170 jaunte

Erik Rush: Obama Is Murdering Everyone And I Don’t Need Evidence To Prove It

FFS. What the hell is he smoking? Or has his insane paranoia finally reached uncontrollable levels?

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:22:39pm

oh my…I just thought, what if Valerie Jarrett decided to run for President…
A blah woman born in Iran to American parents (who were there to run a hospital for children in Shiraz in 1950, as part of a program where American physicians and agricultural experts sought to help jump-start developing countries’ health and farming efforts) who is a Democrat from Chicago.
Talk about popcorn times!

175 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:23:16pm

re: #171 jaunte

Maybe because they read each others work.

They have their little bubble of news and information, and anything from outside that bubble cannot penetrate, or if it does, it’s quickly disregarded. Epistemic closure at work.

176 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:23:34pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

It won’t be. Thank Florida law for that. With his acquittal for self-defense grounds, Zimmerman’s pretty much protected as that can’t be “wrongful”.

That’s not true. I’ve heard this morning that a civil suit is in the mix according to the lawyers for Trayvon’s parents. Just like OJ was found not guilty but then lost a civil action, the same can be done to Zimmerman. The outcome of the criminal case has nothing to do with any civil lawsuit.

177 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:23:36pm

re: #173 Dr Lizardo

They keep trying to find bottom, and discovering it’s a mirage they can just keep descending though.

178 SidewaysQuark  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:24:46pm

re: #167 HoosierHoops

Love ya Chris Rock..A dispatcher on 911 isn’t a cop nor have any legal authority.

True, but if you need a dispatcher to tell you leaving the safety of your car to insert yourself into a situation in which you know the (real) police will be entering in the immediate future is a bad idea (let alone whether or not you think the individual is a threat), you’re not thinking with a working brain to start with.

Even had this unfolded differently, and the police saw HIM with a gun, he might have well ended up dead himself via police intervention.

179 blueraven  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:25:07pm

re: #167 HoosierHoops

Love ya Chris Rock..A dispatcher on 911 isn’t a cop nor have any legal authority.
I was told by a dispatcher to give mouth to mouth to a dead man once. I told her she was out of her fucking mind and I’ll wait for the medics to arrive. They didn’t give mouth to mouth either. He was already dead and I didn’t break the law by refusing her directions.

He may not have legal authority, but he gave sound advice, which Zimmerman chose to ignore. A reasonable person would have never left the truck in the first place.

180 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:25:56pm

re: #177 jaunte

They keep trying to find bottom, and discovering it’s a mirage they can just keep descending though.

Heh. You know, I’ve observed the one thing that’s really verboten for them is blatant or overt anti-Semitism. They have covert anti-Semitism (think George Soros) or they have vicarious anti-Semitism (hatred of Muslims).

Sooner or later, though, that Rubicon will be crossed.

181 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:30:48pm

re: #178 SidewaysQuark

re: #179 blueraven

I completely agree..If you go looking for trouble you will find it. He had no business getting out of his truck. Manslaughter would have been the correct verdict..
Wait! What the hell is going on? I stayed out of this case until today. Forget everything I’ve posted. What the hell was I thinking? It’s Florida.

182 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:33:27pm

I’m not sure what’s worse:
The verdict, or that no one I know was surprised by it.

183 Dave In Austin  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:33:55pm

From FB…..

Dear George Zimmerman,

For the rest of your life you are now going to feel what its like to be a black man in America.

You will feel people stare at you. Judging you for what you think are unfair reasons. You will lose out on getting jobs for something you feel is outside of your control. You will believe yourself to be an upstanding citizen and wonder why people choose to not see that.

People will cross the street when they see you coming. They will call you hurtful names. It will drive you so insane some days that you’ll want to scream at the top of your lungs. But you will have to wake up the next day, put on firm look and push through life.

I bet you never thought that by shooting a black male you’d end up inheriting all of his struggles.

Enjoy your “freedom.”

Sincerely,

A black male who could’ve been Trayvon Martin

184 William of Orange  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:34:21pm

In other news…

I don’t know the American figures, but in Great Britain…

the number of suicides exceeds the tally of soldiers fallen in combat.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:35:00pm

re: #167 HoosierHoops

Love ya Chris Rock..A dispatcher on 911 isn’t a cop nor have any legal authority.
I was told by a dispatcher to give mouth to mouth to a dead man once. I told her she was out of her fucking mind and I’ll wait for the medics to arrive. They didn’t give mouth to mouth either. He was already dead and I didn’t break the law by refusing her directions.

From the Sanford, Florida, Neighborhood Watch manual on page 3:

You will add your “eyes and ears” to those of the Police Department which cannot be everywhere, all the time, by keeping a watchful eye and open ear to what is happening in your neighborhood. You will extend their ability to provide security by reporting anything unusual or suspicious, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, so they can follow up on your leads. What you will not do is get physically involved with any activity you report or apprehension of any suspicious persons. This is the job of the law enforcement agency.

Sanford PD has since removed the Neighborhood Watch manual from its website.

186 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:36:04pm

Srsly I do not understand this Valerie Jarrett fixation.
WARNING: westernjournalism dot com is a white supremacist site that wingnuts love.

187 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:36:15pm

And now of course, the Breitbrats are freaking out about Obama’s statement.

188 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:36:26pm
189 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:39:11pm

VOMIT

190 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:39:58pm
191 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:41:32pm

DERP

192 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:42:36pm

just wondering if Trayvon had actually had a gun himself and Zimmerman with his own gun was the one left dead on the grass, how this would have turned out just the same…

/half

193 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:47:08pm

Wingers are racist nut jobs. Ok, got it, par for the course.
But these so called progressives are killing me. They’re so sure their immature positions are right that they don’t have to pay attention to anything else. Certainly not the bs this president has had flung at him from day one. He knows he’s black!
Really, what do they want the president to do?

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:49:15pm

re: #193 OhNoZombies!

Wingers are racist nut jobs. Ok, got it, par for the course.
But these so called progressives are killing me. There so sure their immature positions are right that they don’t have to pay attention to anything else. Certainly not the bs this president has had flung at him from day one. He knows he’s black!
Really, what do they want the president to do?

IMPEACH!!11!! PRISON!!11!!

195 SidewaysQuark  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:49:56pm

re: #193 OhNoZombies!

Wingers are racist nut jobs. Ok, got it, par for the course.
But these so called progressives are killing me. There so sure their immature positions are right that they don’t have to pay attention to anything else. Certainly not the bs this president has had flung at him from day one. He knows he’s black!
Really, what do they want the president to do?

I’m not sure I understand…

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:51:12pm
197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:52:23pm
198 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 1:59:59pm

re: #195 SidewaysQuark

I’ve been following twitter. Quite a few professional liberals took issue with the presidents speech.
Some said he was appeasing white supremacy, others are saying he’s unqualified to speak on black issues.

I would post some, but I’m a little rusty…
I’ve been ignoring the news for sanity’s sake.

199 allegro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:00:11pm

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

He said that last night on Piers Morgan during the 30 seconds or so I listened. At that I had to roll my eyes and change the channel. That whole family seems to be scary sociopathic, no empathy for the victim or his family at all.

200 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:00:45pm

re: #189 Vicious Babushka

An early contestant for next year’s Accuracy In Media award. /

201 Bulworth  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:02:15pm

re: #186 Vicious Babushka

She’s a woman. Works for a Democrat. That’s usually all it takes. //

202 SidewaysQuark  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:06:58pm

re: #198 OhNoZombies!

I’ve been following twitter. Quite a few professional liberals took issue with the presidents speech.
Some said he was appeasing white supremacy, others are saying he’s unqualified to speak on black issues.

I would post some, but I’m a little rusty…
I’ve been ignoring the news for sanity’s sake.

Gotcha. I guess when you’re reasonable and shoot for the middle both ends fall off the deep end, as expected.

203 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:09:12pm

It’s just horrifying how much hatred is pouring out of the commenters at Breitbart today. Worst I’ve ever seen.

breitbart.com

204 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:13:23pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

It’s just horrifying how much hatred is pouring out of the commenters at Breitbart today. Worst I’ve ever seen.

breitbart.com

Breitbart…..Stormfront. Same thing.

205 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:14:27pm

I read the POTUS statement on the verdict. I thought it was as presidential and obvious as we could hope-for. We are a nation of laws, the jury spoke and we need to find a way to live with it.

All I have to say is, The next time a person wishes to stalk a person wearing a hoodie and then create a situation in which they will be justified killing said person, the whole nation will be paying attention.

206 funky chicken  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:17:20pm

re: #170 jaunte

Erik Rush: Obama Is Murdering Everyone And I Don’t Need Evidence To Prove It

Utter insanity. If anything caused Michael Hastings’s death it is paranoid crap like this article. I think the guy had a psychiatric crisis which caused him to think he had to flee his home, and in his panic he crashed his car.

207 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:17:53pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

I cannot go there. It’s an infection at that place. It’s ugly enough around here as it is. Some of my husband’s friends have lost their fucking minds over this, his news feed on Facebook is horrifying. I just lost a ton of respect for about 3/4 of the guys he knows.

208 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:22:44pm

DERP DERP HURR HURR

209 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:24:39pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

It’s just horrifying how much hatred is pouring out of the commenters at Breitbart today. Worst I’ve ever seen.

breitbart.com

And the most racist comments get the most updings.

210 jaunte  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:29:06pm

re: #208 Vicious Babushka

So nice that today’s assholes don’t have to wait a month for the latest Lew Rockwell/Ron Paul newsletter to get their supply of racist snark refreshed.

211 BigPapa  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:30:06pm

Again, did Zimmerman’s head get banged on a sidewalk or concrete? I’ve not seen any evidence of that. The incident concluded in a grassy walkway area with a narrow concrete walkway.

Martin’s body, when found, was lying on grass with no concrete in view of the photograph.

212 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:37:24pm

re: #209 Vicious Babushka

And the most racist comments get the most updings.

they experience a sense of relief from their fucked up existence in the act of spewing garbage

i don’t associate with people like that

213 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:38:36pm

How would you react if you were walking in your neighborhood and someone started following you in their vehicle?

What would you be thinking?

214 A Mom Anon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:39:57pm

re: #211 BigPapa

There was a theory that Zimmerman got scratched up by bare tree branches in whatever scuffle there might have been. The marks on his head were higher up than they might have been if Martin had been bashing his head by grabbing him by the ears for example. Also, none of Zimmerman’s DNA was recovered off Martin’s body, you’d think if the guy was beating the crap out of someone there’d have been blood or skin or something all over him, but nothing was found.

This whole thing is so fucked up on so many levels it’s insane. I just really feel for the kid’s family, I can’t imagine how you even start to rise above shit this deep.

215 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:41:18pm

re: #214 A Mom Anon

There was a theory that Zimmerman got scratched up by bare tree branches in whatever scuffle there might have been. The marks on his head were higher up than they might have been if Martin had been bashing his head by grabbing him by the ears for example. Also, none of Zimmerman’s DNA was recovered off Martin’s body, you’d think if the guy was beating the crap out of someone there’d have been blood or skin or something all over him, but nothing was found.

This whole thing is so fucked up on so many levels it’s insane. I just really feel for the kid’s family, I can’t imagine how you even start to rise above shit this deep.

I’d start by moving from Florida.

216 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:41:38pm

nap time.

217 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:41:39pm

re: #211 BigPapa

Again, did Zimmerman’s head get banged on a sidewalk or concrete? I’ve not seen any evidence of that. The incident concluded in a grassy walkway area with a narrow concrete walkway.

Martin’s body, when found, was lying on grass with no concrete in view of the photograph.

if his head was “smashed” on the concrete, as he claimed, even once or twice, he would have been a lot more fucked up than he was - he would at the least have been dizzy and nauseous

218 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:45:43pm

re: #215 FemNaziBitch

I’d start by moving from Florida.

Homer Simpson said it best many, many years ago.

Youtube Video

219 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:46:28pm

Those seeking a right of center website that really cares about urban crime should visit City Journal’s website. You can read about how Mayor Nutter of Philadelphia stopped the ‘flash mobs’ the Breitbarts howl about, and about how the NYPD works to improve its ability to quell gang activity.

What you won’t seek is racist screaming about crime with no practical solutions offered. City Journal’s articles are also moderated and you have to give your name and email to post a comment. So thinking people are welcome, while haters should look elsewhere.

220 CMReaK  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:48:52pm

You know this is sort of funny because every liberal I know would LOVE for more attention to be given to all gun crimes, including deaths of young Black men. Do they seriously believe that we don’t want to draw attention to these tragic murders? One serious difficulty with generating public outrage over gun violence in America is that the media and the public tend to just shrug their shoulders at the gun violence in the tough neighborhoods in America’s cities. So, yeah, I realize that the assholes at Brietbart aren’t actually trying to solve any problems or express genuine concern over the gun homicide rate among young Black men, but most liberals would be delighted with more attention and care being paid to these deaths.

221 allegro  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:49:34pm

re: #219 Dark_Falcon

Your link is to a lawyer.

222 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 2:53:36pm

re: #221 allegro

Your link is to a lawyer.

Fixed now, thanks. I was missing one little dash.

223 engineer cat  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:12:38pm

re: #220 CMReaK

You know this is sort of funny because every liberal I know would LOVE for more attention to be given to all gun crimes, including deaths of young Black men. Do they seriously believe that we don’t want to draw attention to these tragic murders? One serious difficulty with generating public outrage over gun violence in America is that the media and the public tend to just shrug their shoulders at the gun violence in the tough neighborhoods in America’s cities. So, yeah, I realize that the assholes at Brietbart aren’t actually trying to solve any problems or express genuine concern over the gun homicide rate among young Black men, but most liberals would be delighted with more attention and care being paid to these deaths.

oh, the wingnuts are eager to consider any gun controls laws, as long as they are written to control guns in “the inner cities” - that is, SCARY BLACK PEOPLE

224 JeffFX  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:14:13pm

re: #207 A Mom Anon

I cannot go there. It’s an infection at that place. It’s ugly enough around here as it is. Some of my husband’s friends have lost their fucking minds over this, his news feed on Facebook is horrifying. I just lost a ton of respect for about 3/4 of the guys he knows.

Is he doing the right thing and telling them to fuck off and die?

225 JeffFX  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:14:28pm

re: #208 Vicious Babushka

226 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:25:11pm

PUKE

227 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:26:09pm

re: #213 FemNaziBitch

How would you react if you were walking in your neighborhood and someone started following you in their vehicle?

What would you be thinking?

That’s a great question and something I’ve asked many who act like Martin was somehow in the wrong to be creeped out by Zimmerman following him.

228 CMReaK  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:26:17pm

re: #223 engineer cat

Not so much. They are constantly trying to undo local gun ordinances and state laws limiting the number of firearms that can be purchased at one time or over a given period of time. Those state laws are aimed at reducing the flow of illegal weapons into urban areas where the local gun laws are strict. The thing to remember is that the gun lobby isn’t really about ideology. It’s about sales. The NRA receives tremendous funding from gun manufacturers and represents their interests. The more guns sold the better, and the more fear of urban crime the more guns people will buy. Fear and crime are good for business.

229 HappyWarrior  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:30:08pm

They won’t stop dragging this kid’s name through the mud will they? Even if Zimmerman was not the instigator, it doesn’t give people like GEller and others carte blanche to make Martin out to be this terrible thug. The kid wasn’t a saint but he wasn’t an evil kid either. Anyone who judges him for having used marijuana and having gotten into a fight at school is either deluding themselves at how they were at that age or how their peers were. And you know what even if he was a bad kid, he still had the right to not be hassled in a neighborhood he knew. Why the people who attack him don’t want to admit that is something that I will attribute to their prejudice and if they don’t like being called bigots, too fucking bad.

230 Tigger2005  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 3:46:17pm

Whatever happened to wanting to be a decent human being instead of a horrible, hateful piece of shit?

I want to be like Carl Sagan, or the Dalai Lama, or Fred Rogers, or to go fictional, Atticus Finch. I want to be a soft-spoken, kind-hearted gentleman. I’m a far cry from being like my role models, but they’re what I aspire to.

I don’t understand people who waste away their lives being mean spirited, small minded, ugly hate-mongering racist misogynist little trolls.

231 JeffFX  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 4:00:18pm

re: #230 Tigger2005

Whatever happened to wanting to be a decent human being instead of a horrible, hateful piece of shit?

I want to be like Carl Sagan, or the Dalai Lama, or Fred Rogers, or to go fictional, Atticus Finch. I want to be a soft-spoken, kind-hearted gentleman. I’m a far cry from being like my role models, but they’re what I aspire to.

I don’t understand people who waste away their lives being mean spirited, small minded, ugly hate-mongering racist misogynist little trolls.

I think most people are as you wish. The wingnuts and moonbats going berserk today are a small part of the population. Most people have better things to do than skulk about on the Internet and spew hate.

232 RadicalModerate  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 4:07:14pm

re: #226 Vicious Babushka

PUKE

[Embedded content]

Classy, Pamela.

Pulls the story from a Brietbart fansite, who basically did a copy/paste job from Stormfront.

233 DodgerFan1988  Sun, Jul 14, 2013 4:10:26pm

Another example of conservative race-baiting. Right Wing bloggers are using this obvious fake video as an example of black youths hunting whites and out of control.

mrconservative.com


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