DOJ Sets Up Email Tip Line in Zimmerman Case, Right Wing Bloggers Go Batshit

Yes, it’s another unison freakout in Wingnut World
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Inexplicably, or perhaps very explicably, right wing blogs have united to defend and lionize Trayvon Martin’s killer George Zimmerman, and today they’re all (and I do mean “all”) freaking out like chihuahuas on crack about a report that the Department of Justice is opening an email tip line: George Zimmerman: DOJ Solicits Help From Civil Rights Leaders in Zimmerman Investigation.

The U.S. Department of Justice on Monday afternoon appealed to civil rights groups and community leaders, nationally and in Sanford, for help investigating whether a federal criminal case might be brought against George Zimmerman for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, one advocate said.

The DOJ has also set up a public email address to take in tips on its civil rights investigation.

That’s all the wingnuts need to set them off into a frenzy of hatred for President Obama and Eric Holder. Actually, to be precise, they’re always in a constant state of low-level frenzy; this just turns up the heat a little more.

At PJ Media, Bryan Preston says the DOJ is going to manufacture evidence so they can destroy the entire concept of self defense, and give Obama “two years of unchecked power.”

The Dumbest Man on the Internet, Dim Jim Hoft, calls it a “Zimmerman snitch line,” and is careful to note that George Zimmerman is a Democrat and voted for Obama. This is always a very important point for Hoft. Nobody knows why.

At Michelle Malkin’s troll agitation site Twitchy.com, they’re inciting the wingnut audience to flood the DOJ’s tip lines with stupid comments, as usual. Winning!

At breitbart.com, a short post by Ben “Friends of Hamas” Shapiro has elicited more than 2000 totally insane, utterly racist comments. Two quick representative examples:

These people won’t be satisfied until there is blood in the streets.

[…]

The Jews believed the same thing about Hitler little Johnny. Then he turned them into Jewish Crackers and roasted them to death in ovens.
Obama and Holder would do the same to us if they could get away with it.

Crazy Pamela Geller turns in one of her typical bizarre hateful rants:

Obama and his SS are on the war path. It. is. unbelievable. I am sure they are looking to enact legislation that mirrors the German Weapons Act (gun control, Third Reich) in concert with the lynching of George Zimmerman.

And who is Obama and Eric’s patsy on this? Thomas Perez (Obama’s pick for Labor Secretary). Stunning subversion. As Assistant Attorney General at the Justice Department, Tom Perez has a shameful record of pro-sharia initiatives and craven accommodation to Islamic supremacists at the DoJ.

There’s a lot more, but I can only stand to read so much of this deranged wharrgarbl.

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202 comments
1 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:58:06am

Oh, I feel sorry for the people who have to read those emails…

2 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:58:24am

Breathing sets these people off.

3 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 10:59:29am

re: #2 Kragar

Breathing sets these people off.

How dare he breathe my oxygen?! I’m a taxpayer, I have a right to that oxygen!!!

4 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:01:38am

re: #3 Targetpractice

How dare he breathe my oxygen?! I’m a taxpayer, I have a right to that oxygen!!!

The constant in and out, its so fucking repetitive, the perverts!

5 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:03:30am
Obama and his SS are on the war path. It. is. unbelievable. I am sure they are looking to enact legislation that mirrors the German Weapons Act (gun control, Third Reich) in concert with the lynching of George Zimmerman.

And who is Obama and Eric’s patsy on this? Thomas Perez (Obama’s pick for Labor Secretary). Stunning subversion. As Assistant Attorney General at the Justice Department, Tom Perez has a shameful record of pro-sharia initiatives and craven accommodation to Islamic supremacists at the DoJ.

That’s some gold-level derp there.

Perez is going to take his pro-Sharia initiative self to Labor and help PBO enact a ban on weapons? OK. A mere background check at gunshows failed, but sure.

6 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:03:50am

Got to hand it to Pam, only she could turn this into Shariah. And fuck her for constantly comparing the administration to the Nazis. I don’t care if she’s Jewish and I’m not. She has no fucking right to minimize the horrors of the Third Reich by constantly comparing Obama’s administration to it.

7 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:04:50am

re: #5 Bulworth

That’s some gold-level derp there.

Perez is going to take his pro-Sharia initiative self to Labor and help PBO enact a ban on weapons? OK. A mere background check at gunshows failed, but sure.

I think instead of alcohol, she drinks battery acid. Alcohol doesn’t case you to act this ridiculous.

8 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:05:42am

re: #6 HappyWarrior

Got to hand it to Pam, only she could turn this into Shariah. And fuck her for constantly comparing the administration to the Nazis. I don’t care if she’s Jewish and I’m not. She has no fucking right to minimize the horrors of the Third Reich by constantly comparing Obama’s administration to it.

I’m Jewish and Pamela is an utter fucking disgrace. She calls anyone who disagrees with her a “Nazi” or a “Kapo” but she’s the one who pals around with euro-fascists who are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS.

FOAD Pamela.

9 erik_t  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:05:51am

I’m no longer sure which random side actions are taken by Obama’s administration just to put these people in a tizzy. In any case, I fully support such actions.

10 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:07:28am

re: #2 Kragar

Breathing sets these people off.

Seriously. Just the fact that Barack Obama woke up in the morning gets these idiots ranting. The rest is details.

Honestly? I think the DOJ investigation is a formality. I think they’re going to go through the motions and then say that they don’t have enough evidence and quietly move on. I’d be shocked if the feds intervened at all.

11 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:07:47am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

I’m Jewish and Pamela is an utter fucking disgrace. She calls anyone who disagrees with her a “Nazi” or a “Kapo” but she’s the one who pals around with euro-fascists who are ACTUAL FUCKING NAZIS.

DIAF Pamela.

That’s the most maddening thing about her. She calls people who disagree with her Nazis and Jewish people who disagree with her Kapos yet here she is forming alliance with people who are actual fucking Nazis. It’s fucking insane. I’m just real tired of people especially her using the Nazis and totally ignoring the real horrors of what the Nazis were. Every time I watch a documentary about the Nazis, it angers me more and more that people try to minimize their evil by throwing cheap comparisons out there.

12 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:10:49am

No wonder why they weren’t enthuiastic about Romney though. What’s more fun? Bitching about Obama for every little thing or having to defense Milquetoast Mitt?

13 erik_t  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:12:33am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

No wonder why they weren’t enthuiastic about Romney though. What’s more fun? Bitching about Obama for every little thing or having to defense Milquetoast Mitt?

Milquetoast Mitt thinks you had the toaster on a bit too high of a setting, and could you please send Jeeves to the kitchen to try again and also shift the bread over a little because the lower left corner tends to get a little over-done?

14 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:13:22am

re: #13 erik_t

Milquetoast Mitt thinks you had the toaster on a bit too high of a setting, and could you please send Jeeves to the kitchen to try again and also shift the bread over a little because the lower left corner tends to get a little over-done?

And when you dip the toast in the milque, could you please use the redcap 4% instead of that bluecap 2%?

15 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:13:25am

re: #10 Lidane

I suspect they already know they have no case. It’s not like we have new evidence or anything. Heck, already cleared of being a racist by the FBI no less. This is a “keep the calm” moment, nothing more. if these man had been the same race there would not even be a question about it at that level.

16 Dr. Matt  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:13:38am
These people won’t be satisfied until there is blood in the streets.

There is already blood on the streets….Trayvon’s blood. And there was no justice for that innocent blood.

17 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:13:48am
18 lockjawcanbefun  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:17:43am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

On the upside, at least you’d learn all the latest racial slurs.

19 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:19:05am

Given the interviews with the juror it sounds to me like the trial was more for show than anything anyway. You have Angela Cory in the courtroom monitoring the prosecutors and their botching obvious pieces of the case. You have a judge saying no discussion of racial profiling but the defense brings it up AS A DEFENSE and is not admonished or objected to. The whole thing stinks.

20 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:21:36am

re: #12 HappyWarrior

No wonder why they weren’t enthuiastic about Romney though. What’s more fun? Bitching about Obama for every little thing or having to defense Milquetoast Mitt?

I’ve maintained for a long time that the gun/fundy/rightwing radio axis is not really interested in winning at the political level. Their screwball politics are intended to stoke anger, fear, and resentment. This, in turn, is the chief marketing device for the sale of their books, videos, radio ads, health supplements, prepper supplies, home schooling materials, and (obviously) guns and ammunition.

21 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:22:23am

re: #15 Political Atheist

I suspect they already know they have no case. It’s not like we have new evidence or anything. Heck, already cleared of being a racist by the FBI no less. This is a “keep the calm”R moment, nothing more. if these man had been the same race there would not even be a question about it at that level.

Not only that, but when’s the last time that the government brought civil rights charges against an individual, especially after they’ve been acquitted of a crime? No way they get involved.

I’d argue that the feds would have a civil rights case against that guy who held those three women captive for a decade, but Zimmerman? Highly unlikely.

22 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:23:12am

What amuses me is how some of the RWNJs are claiming it was tyranny to even try Zimmerman. Really, we shouldn’t try people who shoot unarmed people? Still dumbfounds me that Zimmerman’s past of violence is ignored and inadmissible but Treyvon was made out to be a thug. Zimmerman was more a thug if you ask me. He’s the one who accosted a kid because he thought “he didn’t belong there.” And honestly, I don’t know how I’d respond if I were in a familiar neighborhood and some weird guy accosted me.

23 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:24:33am

I’m firmly convince if Zimmerman had been the one who ended up dead that night, we wouldn’t have heard about Martin’s right to stand his ground.

24 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:25:33am

re: #19 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Given the interviews with the juror it sounds to me like the trial was more for show than anything anyway. You have Angela Cory in the courtroom monitoring the prosecutors and their botching obvious pieces of the case. You have a judge saying no discussion of racial profiling but the defense brings it up AS A DEFENSE and is not admonished or objected to. The whole thing stinks.

For the life of me, I do not get how Zimmerman’s past record of violence was deemed inadmissible but Treyvon getting in a fight at school was or having marijuana in his system.

25 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:26:11am

re: #23 Kragar

I’m firmly convince if Zimmerman had been the one who ended up dead that night, we wouldn’t have heard about Martin’s right to stand his ground.

Sure. If Trayvon had killed GZ, he’d be in prison by now.

Also, if GZ had been black and Martin had been white, this would’ve been a whole different case too.

26 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:26:39am

re: #23 Kragar

I’m firmly convince if Zimmerman had been the one who ended up dead that night, we wouldn’t have heard about Martin’s right to stand his ground.

I am too more and more.

27 BongCrodny  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:27:14am

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

28 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:28:19am

re: #27 BongCrodny

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

It honestly wouldn’t shock me. Many conservatives seem to see Zimmerman as a noble hero who “cleaned up the streets of filth.”

29 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:28:46am

re: #27 BongCrodny

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

Shit, by the time CPAC rolls around next year expect for GZ to have a ghost-written book about his epic struggle against the scary ni-CLANG and how he defended his rights. He’ll also have a paid gig on Faux News and a column for Breitbart.

30 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:29:20am

re: #29 Lidane

Shit, by the time CPAC rolls around next year expect for GZ to have a ghost-written book about his epic struggle against the scary ni-CLANG and how he defended his rights. He’ll also have a paid gig on Faux News and a column for Breitbart.

Stephen Segal will play him in the movie.
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31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:30:28am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

I can’t understand how a lot of things weren’t allowed. The more I think about it and the more I hear the whole thing sounds like a show trial set up to try and appease the masses.

That juror was a local with a husband who was a lawyer. For all we know her husband knew the other lawyers. And she even said they let him off over “stand your ground”.

We know Cory was appointed to the case by Rick Scott and know he has an interest in defending stand your ground. We know that there was prosecutorial malpractice in the case given how badly it was botched.

Like I said, the whole thing stinks. I listened to the trial every day. There was a lot left out that should have been brought up and mattered. There was a lot brought up that was speculative and should have been stricken.

32 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:30:33am
33 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:30:42am

re: #27 BongCrodny

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

NRA convention. Shoo in.

34 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:31:12am

re: #23 Kragar

just look at what happened to the black woman who stood her ground.

35 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:31:41am

re: #24 HappyWarrior

For the life of me, I do not get how Zimmerman’s past record of violence was deemed inadmissible but Treyvon getting in a fight at school was or having marijuana in his system.

Prejudicial? They also disallowed the numerous prior calls to the police (somewhere between 25-50…I have heard varied numbers) all of which were reports of those icky black people. No calls for suspicious white people. No calls for suspicious Asians. No calls for suspicious Hispanics.

And that right there, is a pattern of racial profiling…which was also not allowed to be stated.

36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:31:46am

also, as has been mentioned, where’s the NRA to say if Trayvon had been armed he could have saved himself?

37 Skip Intro  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:32:02am

re: #27 BongCrodny

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

He could also win the NRA’s Sportsman of the Year award.

38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:32:45am

re: #35 Joanne

Prejudicial? They also disallowed the numerous prior calls to the police (somewhere between 25-50…I have heard varied numbers) all of which were reports of those icky black people. No calls for suspicious white people. No calls for suspicious Asians. No calls for suspicious Hispanics.

And that right there, is a pattern of racial profiling…which was also not allowed to be stated.

but could be part of a civil rights case. Have to see.

39 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:33:01am

re: #35 Joanne

Prejudicial? They also disallowed the numerous prior calls to the police (somewhere between 25-50…I have heard varied numbers) all of which were reports of those icky black people. No calls for suspicious white people. No calls for suspicious Asians. No calls for suspicious Hispanics.

And that right there, is a pattern of racial profiling…which was also not allowed to be stated.

That’s something that I just found out about honestly. It’s why that I’m convinced that Zimmerman’s suspicions of Martin were racially motivated. I know I can’t prove it but I really really doubt he would have accosted a white kid.

40 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:33:01am

re: #34 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

just look at what happened to the black woman who stood her ground.

The one who got 20 years for firing into the air?

Imagine what would have happened had she shot someone. Death row for sure.

41 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:33:59am

The ongoing RWNJ freakout is BIG business. Various kooks continue to buy up every round of ammunition that can be manufactured or imported, despite a doubling of prices in the last 7 months. By itself, that is several billion dollars a year. There are millions of preppers and home schoolers spending big bucks on what they perceive as necessary supplies. Finally, of course, there are the gold bugs. It is no accident that gold scammers advertise heavily on right wing radio.

42 Political Atheist  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:10am

re: #21 Lidane
The feds are just not in the business of righting unsatisfactory trials. George Zimmerman was not a cop. It seems that is who the Feds go after. Like the Rodney king cops. or more recently-
justice.gov

I think that many people are forgetting how common acquittals are. I have an acquaintance who regularly gets hired by defense lawyers on gun cases. He is a gun design and ballistics expert with decades of experience. He breaks the prosecutions evidence quite often. Yes, that sometimes means a righteous acquittal, but also means bad guys get cut loose. Are those cases any less deserving of the extra attention? I don’t see why they should be.

43 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:19am

re: #36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

also, as has been mentioned, where’s the NRA to say if Trayvon had been armed he could have saved himself?

Silly you, you think the NRA is actually a gun-rights and self-defense advocacy group, and not a paranoid-white-people-who-want-lethal-soultions-to-every-imagined-grievance advocacy group.

44 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:35am

So, Pennsylvania’s ultra-corrupt head of the DCNR was forced out of his position. He is, of course, a Corbett appointee.

philly.com

As it turns out, former DCNR Secretary Richard Allan’s undoing was an email exchange with his wife over last month’s falcon banding event at the Capitol complex. In the email exchange, a copy of which was requested by The Inquirer, Allan and his wife Patricia, a state employee who at the time worked at the Department of Environmental Protection, appear to be griping over who is organizing the annual falcon banding event. That event, which involves placing identification bands on baby falcons that nest on a ledge near the main Capitol, occurred last month.

In an email dated May 3, Patricia Allan tells her husband that she believes one of her co-workers, an African-American woman, is trying to make her “look bad.” Later in the exchange, she makes reference to that co-worker’s “true colors.” To which Richard Allan responds: “COLORS”!!!!!!!! Allan later refers to the employee, whose name was redacted from the email exchange, as a “B….”.

Republicans.

45 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:36am

re: #31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I can’t understand how a lot of things weren’t allowed. The more I think about it and the more I hear the whole thing sounds like a show trial set up to try and appease the masses.

That juror was a local with a husband who was a lawyer. For all we know her husband knew the other lawyers. And she even said they let him off over “stand your ground”.

We know Cory was appointed to the case by Rick Scott and know he has an interest in defending stand your ground. We know that there was prosecutorial malpractice in the case given how badly it was botched.

Like I said, the whole thing stinks. I listened to the trial every day. There was a lot left out that should have been brought up and mattered. There was a lot brought up that was speculative and should have been stricken.

The whole thing stinks. I feel terrible for the Martin’s. Angry at the Zimmerman’s especially the brother who wants to try to make them out ot be the victims here. Motherfucker, your brother ended a life and that family isn’t getting their son back. Show at least some compassion.

46 Drimble Wedge  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:51am

“The Derpendicular Waltz” by Derp People.

47 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:34:56am

Related:

Four Jurors Slowly Inch Away From Juror B37’s Racist Fameball Horseshit

Four jurors in the Zimmerman trial released a statement today responding to the comments Juror B37 made in her interview with Anderson Cooper. Basically they were all, “We’d like to distance ourselves from that lady by about ten gajabillion miles KTHXBAI.” (Paraphrasing.)

48 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:35:32am

re: #36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

also, as has been mentioned, where’s the NRA to say if Trayvon had been armed he could have saved himself?

Had TM had a gun and this evolved into a gun-fight, TM would have been on death row. Trial not needed.

That Mark O’Mara had the audacity to say if the roles had been reversed TM wouldn’t have been arrested. I don’t know if that is lack of awareness or pure racism on his part. He supposedly defends people of color. If so, he knows damn well better.

Him and West make me sick. I believe in a full-throated defense. But to put this kid on trial was disgusting. Yeah, the dead guy did it.

49 kirkspencer  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:36:26am

re: #40 Joanne

The one who got 20 years for firing into the air?

Imagine what would have happened had she shot someone. Death row for sure.

Actually, she’d probably have gotten off. Self defense and SYG (in Florida) only come into play if someone is actually shot. Because she ‘obviously’ was NOT in fear for her life or the lives of her children they did not apply (if she was she’d have shot him) she was endangering the lives of others.

50 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:36:32am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

That’s something that I just found out about honestly. It’s why that I’m convinced that Zimmerman’s suspicions of Martin were racially motivated. I know I can’t prove it but I really really doubt he would have accosted a white kid.

I’m not sure if Zimmerman’s actions were racially motivated, but I’m sure that everyone who rushes to defend him and demonize Trayvon is motivated by race.

Why do you think Zimmerman is now a hero? How could he not be to a white nationalist party like the GOP?

My question is, how much lower can they sink? Will they now lionize the guy in Milwaukee who shot his teenage neighbor for no reason?

51 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:37:59am

In 500 years, historians of the United States will refer to this period as “The Great and Final Fleecing of the Rubes,” or just “the fleecing” among insiders at academic conferences.

52 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:38:07am

re: #45 HappyWarrior

The whole thing stinks. I feel terrible for the Martin’s. Angry at the Zimmerman’s especially the brother who wants to try to make them out ot be the victims here. Motherfucker, your brother ended a life and that family isn’t getting their son back. Show at least some compassion.

Ditto.

53 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:39:03am

re: #49 kirkspencer

Actually, she’d probably have gotten off. Self defense and SYG (in Florida) only come into play if someone is actually shot. Because she ‘obviously’ was NOT in fear for her life or the lives of her children they did not apply (if she was she’d have shot him) she was endangering the lives of others.

So endangering someone else’s life gets you 20 years. Twenty fucking years.

54 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:39:07am

re: #50 Ian G.

Given how his brother comes off, how his father came off and how the whole thing went down I am positive it was racially motivated. The dog whistles are loud and clear in everything his brother and the rest had said.

55 erik_t  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:39:10am

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel

In 500 years, historians of the United States will refer to this period as “The Great and Final Fleecing of the Rubes,” or just “the fleecing” among insiders at academic conferences.

I hope the GOP nominates a guy named Jason in 2016.

56 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:40:36am

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel

In 500 years, historians of the United States will refer to this period as “The Great and Final Fleecing of the Rubes,” or just “the fleecing” among insiders at academic conferences.

I think the fleecing will continue for a very long time. Fools and their money….

57 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:40:37am

re: #52 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Ditto.

My own grandmother tried to equate the two family’s lot. I’m sorry but I have little to zero compassion for the Zimmerman’s. It’s wrong that people have threatened him and their family but their son is still alive and I have little doubt will become a wealthy man as a result of this case. Meanwhile, the Martins have are going to have to see this pompous blowhard treated like a hero and their own son made out to be the worst criminal who ever lived. And why? Because he got n some fights, smoked marijuana?

58 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:40:56am

It’s going to be tough for the DOJ to consider a civil rights case here against Zimmerman. The same evidenciary problems that made it tough for the prosecution (not counting their issues with putting on the case) will make it tough for the DOJ to consider civil rights violations. It might make more sense to investigate how and why the Sanford PD did what they did, and what legislative changes need to happen in the state (including SYG repeal or amendment to eliminate the protection for someone who initiates an incident as Zimmerman did here by following Martin).

While there’s a whole lot of people who want to see justice done and Zimmerman put behind bars for killing Martin, it’s not going to happen with a DOJ civil rights investigation.

The DOJ has more success in going after government actors (states, localities, police departments, public agencies, etc.) who violate civil rights since they’re government actors.

Much more likely is a possible civil suit for wrongful death where the burdens of proof are lower, and Zimmerman would get crossed on the stand.

59 kirkspencer  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:41:00am

re: #47 Lidane

Related:

Four Jurors Slowly Inch Away From Juror B37’s Racist Fameball Horseshit

Yeah, that’s opened some interesting possibilities. We have a juror who admits to biases and a desire to make money on what was supposed to be a civil action. There’s enough in there to give reason to investigate the question of whether we had a tainted jury. Doesn’t mean it was, doesn’t mean an investigation or request for retrial will occur, but there’s enough to open the question.

60 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:42:26am

re: #58 lawhawk

I hope the Martin’s sue the shit out of Zimmerman and take everything he might possibly own for the remainder of his days.

61 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:43:09am

Iowa republican pledges to convert Chuck Schumer to Christianity if elected…

*headdesk*

62 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:43:25am

re: #59 kirkspencer

Yeah, that’s opened some interesting possibilities. We have a juror who admits to biases and a desire to make money on what was supposed to be a civil action. There’s enough in there to give reason to investigate the question of whether we had a tainted jury. Doesn’t mean it was, doesn’t mean an investigation or request for retrial will occur, but there’s enough to open the question.

Free market solutions!

63 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:43:30am

re: #59 kirkspencer

Yeah, that’s opened some interesting possibilities. We have a juror who admits to biases and a desire to make money on what was supposed to be a civil action. There’s enough in there to give reason to investigate the question of whether we had a tainted jury. Doesn’t mean it was, doesn’t mean an investigation or request for retrial will occur, but there’s enough to open the question.

I think it does raise some questions especially the fact that she factored in the cop describing Z as credible even though the jury was told to ignore that. Who knows what else she factored in that was inadmissible. It’s worth an investigation at least.

64 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:44:22am

re: #61 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Iowa republican pledges to convert Chuck Schumer to Christianity if elected…

*headdesk*

That’s just creepy.

65 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:44:27am

re: #58 lawhawk

Well if they do go after him for wrongful death then I hope they own him for the rest of his life. Let the wingnuts contribute their money to him, in the end it will end up going to the real victim.

66 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:45:38am

Anyone got a good link debunking some of the stuff said about Treyvon by the MSM?

67 geoffm33  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:46:09am

re: #40 Joanne

The one who got 20 years for firing into the air?

Imagine what would have happened had she shot someone. Death row for sure.

I believe she was sentenced under the 10-20-Life guidelines. Since she used a gun during the commission of a felony (aggravated* assault IIRC) that’s +10. If she shoots it, another +10. If she shoots the other person, Life.


* Edit typo, plus I think it was a different felony charge)

68 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:46:42am

re: #64 HappyWarrior

That’s just creepy.

This gave me a chuckle though.

But this is the real kicker:

Schumer is also a really good negotiator, and Young could walk out of the room having agreed to become a Jew.

69 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:47:09am

re: #67 geoffm33

I believe she was sentenced under the 10-20-Life guidelines. Since she used a gun during the commission of a felony (aggravate assault IIRC) that’s +10. If she shoots it, another +10. If she shoots the other person, Life.

It’s crazy that she’s getting 10-20 while Z gets nothing. Honestly fuck Florida. I’ve had fun the times I’ve been there but their legal system is a joke.

70 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:47:30am

re: #68 Bubblehead II

This gave me a chuckle though.

But this is the real kicker:

Schumer is also a really good negotiator, and Young could walk out of the room having agreed to become a Jew.

I got a chuckle out of that one.

71 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:49:05am

re: #68 Bubblehead II

This gave me a chuckle though.

But this is the real kicker:

Schumer is also a really good negotiator, and Young could walk out of the room having agreed to become a Jew.

It’s not really worth a free lunch to listen to some idiot drone on and on about Jesus.

72 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:50:36am

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

It’s not really worth a free lunch to listen to some idiot drone on and on about Jesus.

If they love Jesus so much, why won’t they give him legal status?
/

73 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:50:42am

england has apparently gone gay. all of it.

74 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:51:07am

re: #73 SpaceJesus

england has apparently gone gay. all of it.

Wales too but not Scotland and Northern Ireland.

75 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:51:13am

DERP

76 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:52:18am

re: #73 SpaceJesus

england has apparently gone gay. all of it.

With the Queens blessing no less.

77 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:52:36am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Wales too but not Scotland and Northern Ireland.

Men already get married wearing skirts there…

78 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:55:02am
After receiving a torrent of criticism, including a statement to CNN from four other jurors who said she did not speak for them, the juror issued a statement further stressing her position that Florida’s self-defense law, commonly known as Stand Your Ground, forced the jury to vote not guilty.

“My prayers are with all those who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than ‘not guilty’ in order to remain within the instructions,” juror B-37 said in the statement. “No other family should be forced to endure what the Martin family has endured.”

reuters.com

79 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:56:42am

re: #31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I can’t understand how a lot of things weren’t allowed. The more I think about it and the more I hear the whole thing sounds like a show trial set up to try and appease the masses.

That juror was a local with a husband who was a lawyer. For all we know her husband knew the other lawyers. And she even said they let him off over “stand your ground”.

We know Cory was appointed to the case by Rick Scott and know he has an interest in defending stand your ground. We know that there was prosecutorial malpractice in the case given how badly it was botched.

Like I said, the whole thing stinks. I listened to the trial every day. There was a lot left out that should have been brought up and mattered. There was a lot brought up that was speculative and should have been stricken.

The case was fucked from the word “Go.” SYG is written in such a fashion that the only way criminal charges in a shooting death where it’s invoked can be filed is if the prosecutor knows he can secure a conviction. If he can’t, not only is everybody involved in the process liable, but the defendant is granted immunity from any civil charges from the crime as well. There’s actually an incentive now for cops not to put too much work into such cases, as the rate of self-defense claims had jumped (IIRC) on the order of 70% since the law was passed.

80 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:56:55am

re: #78 Stanley Sea

reuters.com

Weren’t they told to disregard that law?

81 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:57:00am

From Gawker

#FreeJahar: When Conspiracy Theorists and One Direction Fans Collide

gawker.com

82 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:58:17am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Weren’t they told to disregard that law?

I believe so. What do you do when a jury disregards its instructions?

83 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:58:20am

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Weren’t they told to disregard that law?

Yes, but it led to the police failing to collect evidence from the scene of the shooting, the lack of which made it all but impossible to prove any case beyond a reasonable doubt.

84 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:58:43am

re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, but it led to the police failing to collect evidence from the scene of the shooting, the lack of which made it all but impossible to prove any case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Classic clusterfuck.

85 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:59:22am

re: #82 Stanley Sea

I believe so. What do you do when a jury disregards its instructions?

I don’t know of any precedent of where a jury ignored things like that in deciding on a verdict.

86 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:59:23am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Classic clusterfuck.

My favorite word lately: shitshow.

87 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:59:29am

re: #84 HappyWarrior

Classic clusterfuck.

A consequence of SYG that none of the lawmakers seemed to be able to foresee

88 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 11:59:37am
89 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:00:46pm

re: #87 Sol Berdinowitz

A consequence of SYG that none of the lawmakers seemed to be able to foresee

But though they supposedly couldn’t foresee it and though they think that this case or that one doesn’t qualify, none of them seem in any rush to revise the law or simply abolish it.

90 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:00:54pm

BUT SHE CHUMS UP WITH FUCKING NEO-NAZIS.

91 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:00:57pm

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

As someone who grew up in the old south, Carter knows better than that.

92 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:01:02pm

re: #69 HappyWarrior

It’s crazy that she’s getting 10-20 while Z gets nothing. Honestly fuck Florida. I’ve had fun the times I’ve been there but their legal system is a joke.

Yeah, I am not going back to FL anytime soon. My tourist dollars can and will be used elsewhere.

93 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:02:05pm

re: #92 Joanne

Yeah, I am not going back to FL anytime soon. My tourist dollars can and will be used elsewhere.

Well since my only relatives there are moving to N.C, I don’t have any reason to go there. It sucks because Hollywood/Ft Lauderdale/Miami are more my type of area than mountainous NC.

94 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:03:26pm

re: #82 Stanley Sea

It’s called jury nullification, and it’s a frequent guest in trial settings despite attempts to limit its application.

95 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:03:47pm

re: #91 HappyWarrior

The context is being a bit twisted here, though. He’s coming at it from an entirely different angle than, say, Glenn Beck.

96 AntonSirius  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:04:20pm

Someone explain to me how Malkin isn’t guilty of obstruction of justice for inciting prank calls to a law enforcement tip line.

97 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:05:09pm

re: #95 dragonath

The context is being a bit twisted here, though. He’s coming at it from an entirely different angle than, say, Glenn Beck.

I know. I am not a big Carter fan but I wouldn’t insult him by comparing him with the living trainwreck that is Glenn Beck.

98 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:06:11pm

re: #96 AntonSirius

Someone explain to me how Malkin isn’t guilty of obstruction of justice for inciting prank calls to a law enforcement tip line.

She’s a fucking child. I still remember her harassing a family because she didn’t like the child testifying in favor of SCHIP. Malkin in some ways may be worse than Coulter because of her actions. Coulter just says hateful shit. Malkin acts on it.

99 kirkspencer  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:07:44pm

re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

Yes, but it led to the police failing to collect evidence from the scene of the shooting, the lack of which made it all but impossible to prove any case beyond a reasonable doubt.

Not completely true. Or rather it was not SYG that led to the failure.

The (to me) critical incident of miscarriage of justice occurred approximately 3 am Monday morning. That’s when the assistant DA arrived (normally not in till 9 am), spent approximately 15 minutes with the chief of police, and declared Zimmerman’s situation a case of self defense under SYG. The police were still investigating at that time, but with that declaration the investigations stopped.

What’s amazing about this to me is that if the ADA had waited till his normal time to do this then Zimmerman still might have gotten the SYG declaration, but enough other stuff would have been done (to include using the cell phone to identify Martin) that much of the reason for the furor would have declined. Wouldn’t have made it right, mind, but would have made it a lot less ugly.

100 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:08:21pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

She’s a fucking child. I still remember her harassing a family because she didn’t like the child testifying in favor of SCHIP. Malkin in some ways may be worse than Coulter because of her actions. Coulter just says hateful shit. Malkin acts on it.

Didn’t she go digging through that family’s trash to try and prove they were defrauding SCHIP? She’s a really vile person.

And honestly, an Asian woman defending internment camps is disgusting. She really is a self-hating individual.

101 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:10:23pm

re: #100 Lidane

Didn’t she go digging through that family’s trash to try and prove they were defrauding SCHIP? She’s a really vile person.

And honestly, an Asian woman defending internment camps is disgusting. She really is a self-hating individual.

Yep and the last case you mention was my introduction to her. Hell, that’s a valid point of criticism of FDR. And what’s worse is of course she did 50 plus years after the fact when it was well documented how brave and loyal Japanese-Americans during WWII were.

102 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:10:34pm

re: #99 kirkspencer

Not completely true. Or rather it was not SYG that led to the failure.

The (to me) critical incident of miscarriage of justice occurred approximately 3 am Monday morning. That’s when the assistant DA arrived (normally not in till 9 am), spent approximately 15 minutes with the chief of police, and declared Zimmerman’s situation a case of self defense under SYG. The police were still investigating at that time, but with that declaration the investigations stopped.

What’s amazing about this to me is that if the ADA had waited till his normal time to do this then Zimmerman still might have gotten the SYG declaration, but enough other stuff would have been done (to include using the cell phone to identify Martin) that much of the reason for the furor would have declined. Wouldn’t have made it right, mind, but would have made it a lot less ugly.

It was always going to be ugly. Signing off on charges would lead to a lawsuit, but refusing to charge due to SYG would lead to…well…what we had. There was no choice that was going to lead to an ending everybody would be happy with.

103 geoffm33  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:11:00pm

The editors at Rolling Stone issued a statement:

Our hearts go out to the victims of the Boston Marathon bombing, and our thoughts are always with them and their families. The cover story we are publishing this week falls within the traditions of journalism and Rolling Stone’s long-standing commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage of the most important political and cultural issues of our day. The fact that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is young, and in the same age group as many of our readers, makes it all the more important for us to examine the complexities of this issue and gain a more complete understanding of how a tragedy like this happens. -THE EDITORS

It is also pinned to the top of the online version of the article on their website.

I’m somewhat ok with it after hearing different opinions in the previous thread downstairs.

104 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:14:55pm

re: #81 Decatur Deb

From Gawker

#FreeJahar: When Conspiracy Theorists and One Direction Fans Collide

gawker.com

This is exactly what I was talking about in the last thread concerning the Rolling Stone cover.

106 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:17:02pm

re: #87 Sol Berdinowitz

A consequence of SYG that none of the lawmakers seemed to be able to foresee

I disagree. I think it worked as intended. Had the roles been reversed, TM would have gone to prison, because a young, black male could never stand their ground. They are always the aggressors. They always riot. They are always dangerous.

Foreseen and perfectly fine.

107 blueraven  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:17:19pm

Actually since SYG was enacted in 2005, the regular self defense (Justifiable use of deadly Force) instructions do say that the defendant has no duty to retreat and can stand their ground.

It was in the instructions.

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Page 12 here

Scribd Document

108 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:17:52pm

re: #88 NJDhockeyfan

Seriously, Mr. Carter. STFU.

109 klys  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:18:33pm

re: #99 kirkspencer

Not completely true. Or rather it was not SYG that led to the failure.

The (to me) critical incident of miscarriage of justice occurred approximately 3 am Monday morning. That’s when the assistant DA arrived (normally not in till 9 am), spent approximately 15 minutes with the chief of police, and declared Zimmerman’s situation a case of self defense under SYG. The police were still investigating at that time, but with that declaration the investigations stopped.

What’s amazing about this to me is that if the ADA had waited till his normal time to do this then Zimmerman still might have gotten the SYG declaration, but enough other stuff would have been done (to include using the cell phone to identify Martin) that much of the reason for the furor would have declined. Wouldn’t have made it right, mind, but would have made it a lot less ugly.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the fact that his father is a retired judge couldn’t possibly have had anything to do with the ADA coming in early.

110 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:19:04pm

This came from Tumblr too

Image: tumblr_mi8crqsnXK1r2fvepo1_500.gif

111 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:20:13pm

re: #110 dragonath

This came from Tumblr too

Image: tumblr_mi8crqsnXK1r2fvepo1_500.gif

Who posted that, Destro?

112 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:21:15pm

re: #110 dragonath

This came from Tumblr too

Image: tumblr_mi8crqsnXK1r2fvepo1_500.gif

Oh baby you can Gulag me all night long.//

113 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:21:50pm

re: #99 kirkspencer

Not completely true. Or rather it was not SYG that led to the failure.

The (to me) critical incident of miscarriage of justice occurred approximately 3 am Monday morning. That’s when the assistant DA arrived (normally not in till 9 am), spent approximately 15 minutes with the chief of police, and declared Zimmerman’s situation a case of self defense under SYG. The police were still investigating at that time, but with that declaration the investigations stopped.

What’s amazing about this to me is that if the ADA had waited till his normal time to do this then Zimmerman still might have gotten the SYG declaration, but enough other stuff would have been done (to include using the cell phone to identify Martin) that much of the reason for the furor would have declined. Wouldn’t have made it right, mind, but would have made it a lot less ugly.

Brought forth by Zimmerman’s father, the retired judge? I’ve heard accusations, but nothing definitive.

114 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:24:06pm

re: #113 Stanley Sea

Brought forth by Zimmerman’s father, the retired judge? I’ve heard accusations, but nothing definitive.

I think the parsimonious perspective would be that he was motivated just by SYG, by knowing that the law actually prohibits the detaining and questioning of people, because it’s a terribly stupid law.

If he hadn’t let him go, Zimmerman could have potentially sued under SYG.

The big deal for me is that after months of people saying SYG wasn’t relevant, it clearly was at every point. The juror deliberated on instructions that included SYG, the evidence was gathered limited by SYG, etc.

115 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:24:49pm

re: #29 Lidane

Shit, by the time CPAC rolls around next year expect for GZ to have a ghost-written book about his epic struggle against the scary ni-CLANG and how he defended his rights. He’ll also have a paid gig on Faux News and a column for Breitbart.

“It was a dark and stormy night…”

///

116 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:24:57pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

She’s a fucking child. I still remember her harassing a family because she didn’t like the child testifying in favor of SCHIP. Malkin in some ways may be worse than Coulter because of her actions. Coulter just says hateful shit. Malkin acts on it.

One also gets the feeling with Coulter that it’s a schtick, that she’s going for effect. Malkin is deadly serious. It’s one reason why the different one-word titles of the nearly-identical books that Coulter publishes regularly have gotten more and more extreme - she has genuinely crazy competition from the likes of Malkin and Geller.

re: #100 Lidane

And honestly, an Asian woman defending internment camps is disgusting. She really is a self-hating individual.

IIRC, she’s Filipino, and the Japanese did a lot of seriously fucked up shit during their occupation in WWII. Doesn’t excuse hatred of Japanese American citizens, but it’s a little different from simple self-loathing.

117 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:27:16pm

re: #116 GeneJockey

One also gets the feeling with Coulter that it’s a schtick, that she’s going for effect. Malkin is deadly serious. It’s one reason why the different one-word titles of the nearly-identical books that Coulter publishes regularly have gotten more and more extreme - she has genuinely crazy competition from the likes of Malkin and Geller.

IIRC, she’s Filipino, and the Japanese did a lot of seriously fucked up shit during their occupation in WWII. Doesn’t excuse hatred of Japanese American citizens, but it’s a little different from simple self-loathing.

Yeah, good point about Coulter. I think part of her is just an act. Says a bunch of fucked up shit. Reeks in the dough. True believer and you’d be correct about MM. She’s Flippino-American. I believe her folks were born there. Terrible stuff the Japanese did there and throughout the Pacific islands but as you correctly point out, it doesn’t justify the internment. Hell after all, one of our last WWII veterans n the senate, Senator Inoyve was a Japanese-American who won the CMOH.

118 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:27:30pm

I can’t help but wonder if Zimmerman or his brother are going to try and get a book out of this.

119 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:28:08pm

re: #118 Eclectic Cyborg

I can’t help but wonder if Zimmerman or his brother are going to try and get a book out of this.

Book, movie deal, I can see any of those in the works.

120 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:29:41pm

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

In an unusual move, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II (R), his party’s nominee for governor, launched a new campaign website Wednesday highlighting his efforts to reinstate Virginia’s unconstitutional Crimes Against Nature law. The rule, which makes felons out of even consenting married couples who engage in oral or anal sex in the privacy of their own homes, was struck down by federal courts after Cuccinelli blocked efforts to bring it in line with the Supreme Court’s 2003 Lawrence v. Texas ruling.

Eat a bag of dicks, Cucci

122 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:32:10pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Go suck a dick, Cucci

This guy makes George Allen look sane and reasonable. Really, restoring a ban on oral sex? How the fuck do you expect to enforce that and this guy has the nerve to run as Mr. Small Government too.

123 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:32:11pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Go suck a dick, Cucci

One has to ask how much of this is simply cynical political grandstanding and how much of it is truly clueless Puritanism

124 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:32:12pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Go suck a dick, Cucci

I guess if he wins they’ll have to ditch ‘Virginia Is For Lovers’.

125 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:32:31pm

re: #109 klys

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the fact that his father is a retired judge couldn’t possibly have had anything to do with the ADA coming in early.

Or that his prior arrests were turned into no big thangs.

126 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:32:56pm

re: #110 dragonath

This came from Tumblr too

Image: tumblr_mi8crqsnXK1r2fvepo1_500.gif

What is that?

127 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:03pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Eat a bag of dicks, Cucci

Wouldn’t he be violating that law by doing that? Or is that the point?

128 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:04pm

re: #58 lawhawk

lawhawk, can the doj investigate patterns of profiling/discriminatory treatment of African Americans by the Sanford Police Department and prosecutors? I can understand why Zimmerman would/could not be a target, but how about investigating the systemic disparity of treatment by police/prosecutors?

129 klys  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:25pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Go suck a dick, Cucci

I’m gonna guess he doesn’t like blow jobs. (Blowjobs? I am unsure if this is one word or two.)

130 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:34pm

re: #121 Kragar

Fischer Declares Liz Cheney Is Not ‘A Patriot’ Because She Is Too Pro-Gay

Because no gay person ever loved his or her country…ever.

131 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:47pm

re: #51 Shiplord Kirel

In 500 years, historians of the United States will refer to this period as “The Great and Final Fleecing of the Rubes,” or just “the fleecing” among insiders at academic conferences.

re: #56 Joanne

I think the fleecing will continue for a very long time. Fools and their money….

re: #55 erik_t

I hope the GOP nominates a guy named Jason in 2016.

Oooh, subtle…

132 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:33:49pm

re: #127 Eclectic Cyborg

Wouldn’t he be violating that law by doing that? Or is that the point?

Definitely, then, eating a bag of salted dicks would be illegal.

133 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:34:30pm

re: #126 Joanne

What is that?

Young Stalin

134 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:34:43pm
135 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:34:57pm

re: #129 klys

I’m gonna guess he doesn’t like blow jobs.

That seems impossible.

136 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:35:30pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Because no sister of a gay person ever loved his or her country…ever.

Fixt to fit the situation.

137 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:35:40pm

re: #126 Joanne

What is that?

Another hottie caucasian mass murderer

named Stalin

138 klys  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:36:19pm

re: #135 GeneJockey

That seems impossible.

And yet the evidence seems to support it…

139 Ming  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:36:32pm

re: #27 BongCrodny

A while back somebody mentioned that Zimmerman might wind up as the keynote speaker at the Republican National Convention.

I don’t think the RNC would go that far.

But I’ve got a crisp, shiny five-dollar bill that says Zimmerman gets the nod to address CPAC next year.

Republicans, and conservatives, may play it more quietly than that. They know that giving Zimmerman a platform would antagonize many voters. So I don’t expect Zimmerman to get such prominent speaking roles, although I could be wrong.

But Republicans may have already begun a strategy to get some political mileage here, specifically to win Florida in 2016. Zimmerman is half-Hispanic. I believe the Florida Hispanic vote is considered more conservative than the national Hispanic vote, basically because of the Cuban-Americans. A Republican “talking point” that they support Zimmerman’s acquittal, AND going no further than that (no enthusiasm for Zimmerman as a person), may work for them in Florida. I really hope this doesn’t happen, but combined with voter suppression in Florida, it might do the trick.

140 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:36:43pm

re: #135 GeneJockey

That seems impossible.

Likes ‘em more when they’re illegal?

141 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:36:47pm

New movie to make you Squee now available on netflix streaming

142 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:37:10pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Actually, she’s Rosemary’s Baby.

143 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:37:14pm

The funny thing about Liz Cheney and Bryan Fischer is I don’t know who is worse.

144 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:37:18pm

re: #140 wrenchwench

Likes ‘em more when they’re illegal?

they’re dirtier that way and he can feel better about them when he confesses at church.

145 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:37:48pm

re: #130 Eclectic Cyborg

Because no gay person ever loved his or her country…ever.

Mary’s the gay Cheney daughter. Liz is her sister. Just clarifying, he’s still a twisted freak though. There’s nothing unpatriotic about being pro-gay. Hell, if anything it’s patriotic to think gays should have equality under the law. Mr. Fischer is the real non-patriot here because he seeks a system where people are denied equality because of their sexuality and that makes him a fucked up asshole.

146 klys  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:37:52pm

re: #144 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

they’re dirtier that way and he can feel better about them when he confesses at church.

You know, I realize I started this whole line of thought but now I desperately need some brain bleach. Eww.

147 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:38:22pm

re: #138 klys

And yet the evidence seems to support it…

I believe ww has it right:

re: #140 wrenchwench

Likes ‘em more when they’re illegal?

148 William of Orange  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:38:39pm


Yeah, that’s me who wrote it…. :-)

149 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:38:56pm

re: #143 dragonath

The funny think about Liz Cheney and Bryan Fischer is I don’t know who is worse.

Yeah, Liz is her father’s daughter in the worst sense of the phrase. I was reading about her opening announcement and she accused Obama of doing everything in the book. She’s got some nerve considering who her dad is.

150 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:40:50pm
151 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:42:26pm

re: #150 darthstar

Damn right I started following the Iron Sheik. He was the ultimate Reagan era villain in wrestling.

152 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:42:53pm
153 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:43:03pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

In an unusual move, Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli II (R), his party’s nominee for governor, launched a new campaign website Wednesday highlighting his efforts to reinstate Virginia’s unconstitutional Crimes Against Nature law. The rule, which makes felons out of even consenting married couples who engage in oral or anal sex in the privacy of their own homes, was struck down by federal courts after Cuccinelli blocked efforts to bring it in line with the Supreme Court’s 2003 Lawrence v. Texas ruling.

Eat a bag of dicks, Cucci

Apparently, Virginia is for lovers, but only if you’re having hetero sex in the missionary position.

154 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:43:15pm

re: #151 darthstar

Oh my, is that a salty twitter feed

155 efuseakay  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:44:19pm

Give Zimmerman a few years for his OJ moment. Gets off for murder but busted for something really stupid. It’s only a matter of time. And his ex-judge daddy won’t be able to pull any strings.

156 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:44:22pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Eat a bag of dicks, Cucci

He would, but he’s busy trying to declare that a felony.

157 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:44:32pm

My understanding about Cooch’s desire to revive the sodomy law was that there was a 47 year old guy who got an underage girl to Hooverize him, and because of the way the statutory rape law is written, a blowjob (one word, klys) didn’t count as statutory rape.

Seems more like a situation crying out for a legislative solution, rather than trying to use a statute that has already been ruled unconstitutional, but I’m a Molecular Biologist, not a lawyer.

158 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:45:09pm


Spoiler

Image: 61-1.jpg

159 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:45:39pm

re: #41 Shiplord Kirel

The ongoing RWNJ freakout is BIG business. Various kooks continue to buy up every round of ammunition that can be manufactured or imported, despite a doubling of prices in the last 7 months. By itself, that is several billion dollars a year. There are millions of preppers and home schoolers spending big bucks on what they perceive as necessary supplies. Finally, of course, there are the gold bugs. It is no accident that gold scammers advertise heavily on right wing radio.

Ammo runs on local gun shops are starting to slow down here in middle Tennessee. I was recently able to walk in and purchase a couple of boxes off the shelf for my handgun. Two months ago, forgetaboutit.

One guy who works in our office needed 15 AR-15s and 32K rounds for a DOD vendor demo. He was able to locate the weapons in the US, but had to import the ammo from Eastern Europe. He was nice enough to ask me if I wanted to purchase an AR-15 and include it in his purchase; but not having a need for one, I declined.

Another guy in the office, who got tired of having to locate cans of .223 from out of state vendors, is hand loading 30 cal into cut down (shoulder removed) .223 casings. He swapped out barrels on his rifle. I asked him how he liked the .30 cal, and he just smiled.

The parking lot of the gun range I drive by on the way to work every day, is not full of vehicles like it use to be.

And that’s the gun and ammo report from Middle Tennessee.

160 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:46:14pm

re: #153 AlexRogan

Eat a bag of dicks, Cucci

Apparently, Virginia is for lovers, but only if you’re having hetero sex in the missionary position.

And only under the bonds of matrimony and strictly for procreation. And we reserve the right to treat you like a criminal if you should choose to terminate a pregnancy early for health reasons or due to medical defects.

//

161 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:46:19pm

Kosher lube puts oral sex on the menu for Orthodox Jews

Rabbis have certified a range of lubricants as kosher. Is this the first rabbinically approved innovation to help oral sex?

Rabbis have rarely generated so much excitement. At least not in the bedroom. For the first time, Orthodox Jews can buy sexual lubricants that have been declared kosher.

The US-made Wet range of lubes now has eight lines that have been given a religious stamp of approval, including its “Ecstasy” product. This means that rabbis from the Rabbinical Council of California have inspected Wet’s 52,000 sq ft production plant and researched the origins of every ingredient to check none comes from items prohibited by kosher rules.

162 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:46:23pm
163 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:47:15pm

re: #154 dragonath

Oh my, is that a salty twitter feed

Seriously! How can anyone NOT follow the Iron Sheik?

164 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:47:17pm

re: #120 Kragar

Virginia Gubernatorial Candidate Campaigns On Effort To Restore Ban On Oral Sex

Go suck a dick, Cucci

And therein lies the problem.

165 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:47:47pm

re: #162 darthstar

[Embedded content]

So much for your deft use of the spoiler tag.

166 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:47:54pm

re: #161 Kragar

Lube isn’t for oral sex, though. Unless, y’know, you’re into that.

167 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:48:20pm

re: #157 GeneJockey

My understanding about Cooch’s desire to revive the sodomy law was that there was a 47 year old guy who got an underage girl to Hooverize him, and because of the way the statutory rape law is written, a blowjob (one word, klys) didn’t count as statutory rape.

Seems more like a situation crying out for a legislative solution, rather than trying to use a statute that has already been ruled unconstitutional, but I’m a Molecular Biologist, not a lawyer.

His “desire” is as transparent as he is. Reviving the law is about returning things to a state where homosexuality is effectively illegal under Virginia statutes.

168 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:49:09pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

So much for your deft use of the spoiler tag.

yeah…I blame Stanley_Sea for encouraging me to get into twitter.

169 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:49:10pm

re: #166 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Lube isn’t for oral sex, though. Unless, y’know, you’re into that.

They did say 8 flavors, so, well, you know…

170 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:49:23pm

re: #163 darthstar

Seriously! How can anyone NOT follow the Iron Sheik?

I bet Hulk Hogan doesn’t follow him. :P

171 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:49:30pm

re: #124 GeneJockey

I guess if he wins they’ll have to ditch ‘Virginia Is For Lovers’.

Virginia is for legally married spouses performing missionary position sex for procreative purposes only

172 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:49:55pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

So much for your deft use of the spoiler tag.

Damn…and it was pretty deft, now that I think about it.

173 palomino  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:50:50pm

re: #149 HappyWarrior

Yeah, Liz is her father’s daughter in the worst sense of the phrase. I was reading about her opening announcement and she accused Obama of doing everything in the book. She’s got some nerve considering who her dad is.

Her main campaign theme will be, “Sen. Enzi doesn’t have sufficient hatred for Obama. I hate him more.” It’s pretty clear from the interviews starting in 2008 that Dick and Liz both harbor a great deal of resentment over the fact that Obama harshly criticized Bush/Cheney throughout his victorious 2008 campaign. Clearly they still resent that and want a position (in the Senate, for example) to vent their anger.

174 garzooma  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:50:51pm

Regarding all of Zimmerman’s run-ins with the law that were ruled inadmissible, I was wondering if that applied to Zimmerman’s counter-claims in these cases that he was the one attacked. For instance, with the restraining order from the ex-fiance, Zimmerman filed for his own restraining order against her. In his petition, he claimed she attacked him after he declined to spend the night with her. Well, I guess, she’s only human :-).

The court ruled that the restraining order against him was inadmissible, but I wonder if his petition would have been admissible — to show that he was in the habit of making false accusations about people attacking him.

Similarly, his arrest for assaulting a cop wasn’t admissible. But when he was trying to join Seminole County Sheriff’s Office Citizens Law Enforcement Academy, he had to explain the arrest in his application, where he claimed that “the officer assaulted me first”. Again, would his application have been admissible? I sure would have liked to have heard from the cop he claimed had assaulted him.

175 Carlos Danger  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:50:57pm

“Hey, what do you do?”

“I work in a factory where we make Kosher Oral Sex Lube”

176 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:51:07pm

re: #157 GeneJockey

My understanding about Cooch’s desire to revive the sodomy law was that there was a 47 year old guy who got an underage girl to Hooverize him, and because of the way the statutory rape law is written, a re: #167 Targetpractice

His “desire” is as transparent as he is. Reviving the law is about returning things to a state where homosexuality is effectively illegal under Virginia statutes.

Pretty much.

177 William of Orange  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:51:19pm

Just to clarify…


re: #148 William of Orange

[Embedded content]


Yeah, that’s me who wrote it…. :-)

Er… the writing part. That’s not my picture…. (apart from that twitter tag.)

178 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:51:36pm

re: #161 Kragar

Kosher lube puts oral sex on the menu for Orthodox Jews

So, no bacon flavor?
//

On a slightly related note, one of the jobs my Dad had at the fruit processing company where he worked was dealing with complaint letters, probably because he was the executive least likely to tell the writers to go pound sand. One time he got a letter from someone complaining about ‘having to pay extra’ for his applesauce to be declared “Kosher for Passover”, since he wasn’t Jewish.

Dad, being Dad, calculated the cost per jar for passing the Orthodox Union Kosher Certification, and offered to send him a check for the $0.0001.

179 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:52:07pm

re: #173 palomino

Her main campaign theme will be, “Sen. Enzi doesn’t have sufficient hatred for Obama. I hate him more.” It’s pretty clear from the interviews starting in 2008 that Dick and Liz both harbor a great deal of resentment over the fact that Obama harshly criticized Bush/Cheney throughout his victorious 2008 campaign. Clearly they still resent that and want a position (in the Senate, for example) to vent their anger.

That’s my observation as well. Bush himself either has let it go or keeps it to himself. The Cheneys seem to think that old man Dick was beyond criticism.

180 Lidane  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:52:28pm
181 Kragar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:52:40pm

re: #175 dragonath

“Hey, what do you do?”

“I work in a factory where we make Kosher Oral Sex Lube”

You can do it in any position except standing.

Why not standing?

It could lead to dancing.

182 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:52:57pm

re: #133 Kragar

Young Stalin

a very interesting book!

183 geoffm33  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:53:18pm

I linked to the RS article above, but if you haven’t read it, and have time on your hands. It’s a fascinating read:

Jahar’s World - Rolling Stone Magazine

184 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:53:24pm

re: #174 garzooma

Regarding all of Zimmerman’s run-ins with the law that were ruled inadmissible, I was wondering if that applied to Zimmerman’s counter-claims in these cases that he was the one attacked. For instance, with the restraining order from the ex-fiance, Zimmerman filed for his own restraining order against her. In his petition, he claimed she attacked him after he declined to spend the night with her. Well, I guess, she’s only human :-).

The court ruled that the restraining order against him was inadmissible, but I wonder if his petition would have been admissible — to show that he was in the habit of making false accusations about people attacking him.

Similarly, his arrest for assaulting a cop wasn’t admissible. But when he was trying to join Seminole County Sheriff’s Office Citizens Law Enforcement Academy, he had to explain the arrest in his application, where he claimed that “the officer assaulted me first”. Again, would his application have been admissible? I sure would have liked to have heard from the cop he claimed had assaulted him.

These are good points that I wonder about too.

185 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:54:18pm

re: #182 engineer cat

a very interesting book!

Still need to read Court of the Red Czar. I typically like one volume biographies but Mr. Montefore’s books are an exception.

186 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:56:43pm

re: #128 urbanmeemaw

In short, yes. The DOJ can investigate local police departments and prosecutors’ offices to see if they’re systematically violating civil rights. For instance, the DOJ investigated the New Orleans PD for violations, including excessive force, and released its findings a while back along with a settlement on how to resolve and prevent future occurrences.

Likewise, the Seattle PD was found to engage in excessive force. Findings and outcomes here.

187 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:57:44pm

re: #168 darthstar

yeah…I blame Stanley_Sea for encouraging me to get into twitter.

You’ve done well, young man. I knew you would.

188 BeenHereAwhile  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:59:12pm

re: #48 Joanne

That Mark O’Mara had the audacity to say if the roles had been reversed TM wouldn’t have been arrested. I don’t know if that is lack of awareness or pure racism on his part. He supposedly defends people of color. If so, he knows damn well better.

Him and West make me sick. I believe in a full-throated defense. But to put this kid on trial was disgusting. Yeah, the dead guy did it.

O’Mara has a Martindale-Hubble AV (highest possible peer review) rating. From what I’ve observed, that rating doesn’t say much for the attorneys who rated O’Mara AV. As for his clients, I’m sure Zimmerman would rate him AV.

189 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 12:59:35pm

re: #154 dragonath

I read an article on him recently. I remember hating him as a kid, or I should say his character but he has had a hard road to go on like many Pro Wrestler’s. Given what the article said about him and the pain he’s constantly in it’s amazing to even see him at the occasional WWE event.

190 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:00:32pm

re: #180 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Trent Franks should hug a Saguaro.

191 Joanne  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:04:05pm

re: #133 Kragar

re: #137 dragonath

Thanks, guys!

192 AlexRogan  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:04:12pm

re: #178 GeneJockey

So, no bacon flavor?
//

On a slightly related note, one of the jobs my Dad had at the fruit processing company where he worked was dealing with complaint letters, probably because he was the executive least likely to tell the writers to go pound sand. One time he got a letter from someone complaining about ‘having to pay extra’ for his applesauce to be declared “Kosher for Passover”, since he wasn’t Jewish.

Dad, being Dad, calculated the cost per jar for passing the Orthodox Union Kosher Certification, and offered to send him a check for the $0.0001.

Nice…

193 GeneJockey  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:05:08pm

re: #167 Targetpractice

His “desire” is as transparent as he is. Reviving the law is about returning things to a state where homosexuality is effectively illegal under Virginia statutes.

Read the article Obdi linked to, and yeah. It’s an excuse, especially given his earlier opposition to rewriting the sodomy law to exclude consenting adults.

I’m constantly amazed that the “party of small government” thinks there’s a compelling government interest in which consenting adult has sex with which other consenting adult, and how they do it. Or perhaps more accurately, I’m constantly amazed that they still think they’re in favor of small government.

194 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:05:37pm

re: #183 geoffm33

I linked to the RS article above, but if you haven’t read it, and have time on your hands. It’s a fascinating read:

Jahar’s World - Rolling Stone Magazine

I’m waiting for my issue to hit my mailbox.
Truth be told, in all the decades that I’ve been a subscriber, I’ve seen much more disturbing RS covers than this one.

195 urbanmeemaw  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:07:13pm

re: #186 lawhawk

Thank you!

196 geoffm33  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:07:47pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m waiting for my issue to hit my mailbox.
Truth be told, in all the decades that I’ve been a subscriber, I’ve seen much more disturbing RS covers than this one.

Janet Jackson wearing the hand-bra?

197 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:08:52pm

re: #194 Backwoods_Sleuth

I’m waiting for my issue to hit my mailbox.
Truth be told, in all the decades that I’ve been a subscriber, I’ve seen much more disturbing RS covers than this one.

Me too, my dad’s been a subscriber for as long as I can remember and they always go for the edge.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 1:13:12pm

re: #196 geoffm33

Janet Jackson wearing the hand-bra?

oh yeah…and that Rick Ross one last year.
And Bieber; and Lady Gaga’s blazing guns; and True Blood; and a few more…
But the better covers more than make up for the creepy ones.

199 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 2:18:06pm

Ooh…Queen Elizabeth rips into Christie!

“I don’t like to badmouth people,” she said. “But I’m the head of a monarchy that began in the ninth century, and I’m apparently more modern than Chris Christie.”

200 darthstar  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 2:21:32pm

re: #199 darthstar

Ooh…Queen Elizabeth rips into Christie!

Okay…it was the Borowitz Report…too bad.

201 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 2:47:40pm

re: #199 darthstar

re: #188 BeenHereAwhile

O’Mara has a Martindale-Hubble AV (highest possible peer review) rating. From what I’ve observed, that rating doesn’t say much for the attorneys who rated O’Mara AV. As for his clients, I’m sure Zimmerman would rate him AV.

He may find his minority clientele base eroded after the Z “victory”.

202 Hector1980  Wed, Jul 17, 2013 9:12:50pm

The Shrieking Harpy is not only lionizing Zimmerman, but she’s working really hard trying to pain Trayvon as a drug addicted gangster.

Seriously, she’s saying that Trayvon bought the Skittles to make drugs.

At least Spencer mostly sticks to Islamophobia.


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