Spectacular New Time-Lapse Short: Mirror City

Kaleidoscopic hyper-reality
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When I first started Mirror City, I wanted to create a video that was completely out of the norm. I wanted to showcase something unique and artistic, which takes Timelapse photography into a more abstract direction. Mirror City is a visual story through some of the great American cities: Chicago, San Francisco, San Diego, Las Vegas and Los Angeles. These clips were all processed from their original form, into the kaleidoscopic visuals that you see in this video. Many people visit these large cities every day, and all of these places have been shot and filmed, but I wanted to emulate these urban landscapes in a way that nobody has even seen before. I wanted to put man-made geometric shapes, mixed with elements of color and movement to create less of a structured video, and more of a plethora of visual stimulation.

The video starts off with simple mirrors and recognizable architecture, as the video progresses, so does the visual stimulation, showing the real abstraction of the piece.
I have worked on this piece for an extremely long amount of time. I have spent time mirroring images and videos for the past five years, and I have been working on this specific piece for about four months. I felt it was time to combine Timelapse photography and the simplicity of a kaleidoscope, and create Mirror City.

Directed, Filmed & Edited: Michael Shainblum
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Music: Bassnectar
Track: Bassnectar - Butterfly (ft. Mimi Page)
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221 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 5:53:38pm

I lol’ed.

2 Higgs Boson's Mate  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 5:56:44pm

That video is an amazing piece. I used to pay good money back in the Sixties to see stuff like that.

3 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 5:57:26pm

re: #2 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That video is an amazing piece. I used to pay good money back in the Sixties to see stuff like that.

It looks fantastic in fullscreen mode.

4 Higgs Boson's Mate  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:00:24pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

It looks fantastic in fullscreen mode.

Oh, yes! I have two big-ass flatscreen monitors on my fire breathing home built PC and full screen is breathtaking.


Thank you for posting this one, Charles.

5 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:01:52pm

re: #2 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That video is an amazing piece. I used to pay good money back in the Sixties to see stuff like that.

I got dizzy.

6 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:03:35pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Definitely a palate cleanser after the steady stream of derp from the right wing today when they went full metal wingnut over the President’s comments.

7 Randall Gross  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:05:48pm

Well done, this was a labor of love.

8 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:08:14pm

re: #4 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Oh, yes! I have two big-ass flatscreen monitors on my fire breathing home built PC and full screen is breathtaking.

Thank you for posting this one, Charles.

Are you my grandson in his bedroom? : )

9 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:11:50pm

re: #2 Higgs Boson’s Mate

That video is an amazing piece. I used to pay good money back in the Sixties to see stuff like that.

a hit of windowpane only ran about $10 apiece i seem to recall…

10 Kid A  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:12:58pm

Inspirational DERPES! of the day:

“If Obama had a son, he would look like Trayvon. If Obama had a city, it would look like Detroit. If Obama had a country, it would look like Cuba.” -Scottie Nell Hughes

11 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:12:59pm

Reminds me of the kaleidoscopes I had as a kid.

12 EPR-radar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:14:39pm

re: #11 Justanotherhuman

Reminds me of the kaleidoscopes I had as a kid.

I feel deprived. My kaleidoscopes didn’t go to 11 the way this video does.

13 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:20:43pm
14 bratwurst  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:20:57pm

Wow, Ron Paul is getting ready to launch his own TV channel.

Hopefully he will be a little more careful about who he hires to work on this project than he was with his racist 1990s newsletters!

15 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:23:03pm

re: #12 EPR-radar

I feel deprived. My kaleidoscopes didn’t go to 11 the way this video does.

Mine didn’t, either. But they almost always made me feel sort of high, even though I didn’t know what that was at the time. And they were addictive for a while until I moved on from them.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:24:51pm

Whole lotta jumping to conclusions goin’ on.

littlegreenfootballs.com

17 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:26:39pm

If you enjoy the observations of Lewis Black, this clip is for you.

NYC gives Texas the Middle Finger

or if you just hate on Rick Perry.

18 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:30:41pm
19 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:33:30pm

re: #9 engineer cat

a hit of windowpane only ran about $10 apiece i seem to recall…

!?? we used to sell it for $1 in the early 70s, and still made a good profit.

20 Decatur Deb  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:33:43pm

High weirdness: Freep has a thread on Sen Warren’s dope-slapping of CNBC.
Most commenters reluctantly agree with her on Glass-Steagall.

21 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:36:50pm

re: #13 lawhawk

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Holy hell, I thought that was a joke.

22 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:45:40pm

“I just want to say one word to you — just one word — ‘sports.’”

23 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:51:18pm

When “Sports” came out in ‘83, I think they really came into their own.

Youtube Video

24 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:54:59pm

Salon. Bleh.

25 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:55:22pm

twitter.com

26 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:57:37pm

reposting from downstairs before I toddle off to sleep:

Be there or be square…

27 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:58:22pm

..Some of us have an Inner Child. Others have an Inner Ni**er. Is Holder the president’s conscience? Or his Inner Ni**er?

…The Secret Service calls the president “Renegade,” his agency nickname. It seems, these days, that Holder is the real renegade. The country’s Rogue N*gro. And the president’s repressed Black Id…

28 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 6:59:09pm

salon.com

29 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:04:46pm

re: #27 Gus

..Some of us have an Inner Child. Others have an Inner Ni**er. Is Holder the president’s conscience? Or his Inner Ni**er?

…The Secret Service calls the president “Renegade,” his agency nickname. It seems, these days, that Holder is the real renegade. The country’s Rogue N*gro. And the president’s repressed Black Id…

I don’t give that dude anything but the ability and platform to shock and piss people off. He succeeded. No different than the hateful shit the other shock jocks have been saying.

All the way to the bank.

30 alpuz  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:10:21pm

re: #29 Stanley Sea

I don’t give that dude anything but the ability and platform to shock and piss people off. He succeeded. No different than the hateful shit the other shock jocks have been saying.

All the way to the bank.

“All the way to the bank.”

Which seems to be a common thread among many in the fold these days.
Is it just me, or has the rise of the grifter reached a new pinnacle?

31 Higgs Boson's Mate  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:11:37pm

re: #9 engineer cat

a hit of windowpane only ran about $10 apiece i seem to recall…

Up at Beserkeley we were paying four bucks a hit for Owsley. When he went out of business the price for good shit went up to five bucks and slowly escalated from there. I was a retailer when windowpane came out so I was buying it by the sheet. In those quantities it was around twenty five cents a hit.

32 sagehen  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:15:28pm

re: #19 Single-handed sailor

!?? we used to sell it for $1 in the early 70s, and still made a good profit.

In the late 70’s/early 80’s, microdot or blotter was $3.

My roommate (the art major) was the household designee in charge of very carefully measuring, marking and slicing (exacto-blade) the blotter sheets into perfect doses. The wholesaler told us it was a 10x10 sheet, but we made it 10x11 for an extra vig (who’s gonna notice that itty bitty bit of a shave?)

33 HappyWarrior  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:15:41pm

re: #14 bratwurst

Wow, Ron Paul is getting ready to launch his own TV channel.

Hopefully he will be a little more careful about who he hires to work on this project than he was with his racist 1990s newsletters!

Uncle Ron’s economic fairy tales? Tonight, Uncle Ron will tell the story of how privatizing everything is good for the economy.

34 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:16:00pm

Double consciousness! Derp.

35 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:17:43pm
36 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:18:16pm

re: #30 alpuz

“All the way to the bank.”

Which seems to be a common thread among many in the fold these days.
Is it just me, or has the rise of the grifter reached a new pinnacle?

Capitalism baby! We’ve set up a system where you can make tons for providing absolutely nothing of value. Gah.

37 austin_blue  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:19:48pm

re: #31 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Up at Beserkeley we were paying four bucks a hit for Owsley. When he went out of business the price for good shit went up to five bucks and slowly escalated from there. I was a retailer when windowpane came out so I was buying it by the sheet. In those quantities it was around twenty five cents a hit.

In the mid-70’s, we were paying around three dollars for a 250-mic hit of blotter. Good clean stuff out of the U’s organic chem lab. Often dropped on a Friday afternoon and then played intramural softball, which was a hoot.

Don’t catch the ball, intercept the line…

38 Stanley Sea  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:20:03pm

re: #31 Higgs Boson’s Mate

re: #32 sagehen

Proud of you guys!!

39 austin_blue  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:20:28pm

re: #31 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Up at Beserkeley we were paying four bucks a hit for Owsley. When he went out of business the price for good shit went up to five bucks and slowly escalated from there. I was a retailer when windowpane came out so I was buying it by the sheet. In those quantities it was around twenty five cents a hit.

Did Owsley’s recipe once. Smuggled back to Virginia in ‘76 on sugar cubes. Had to be a milligram and it was just a screaming meemie of a trip. Fun, but just too intense. Never again.

40 alpuz  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:24:54pm

Well hell.. I guess me trading a six-pack(or 8 if it was huber) back in the nineties was overpaying. Oh well, the skateboarding was a blast.

41 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:28:22pm
42 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:28:24pm

Happy Friday, Lizarddom.

43 jaunte  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:29:14pm

re: #41 Gus

44 bratwurst  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:30:59pm

re: #33 HappyWarrior

Uncle Ron’s economic fairy tales? Tonight, Uncle Ron will tell the story of how privatizing everything is good for the economy.

My favorite Ron Paul fable is the one about how Lincoln could have prevented the Civil War by simply BUYING all of the slaves:

Youtube Video

45 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:35:32pm
46 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:38:30pm


National Review. Heh.

47 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:39:50pm

Also.

48 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:41:58pm
49 BongCrodny  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:43:01pm

re: #41 Gus

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“Moonbat Wingnut Convergence” sounds like an episode title for The Big Bang Theory.

50 Lidane  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 7:58:30pm

re: #47 Gus

Image: YO-DAWG.jpg

51 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:01:53pm

re: #45 Gus

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Youtube Video

“America Drinks and Goes Home”
- The Mothers of Invention, 1966

52 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:06:21pm
53 darthstar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:08:08pm

Yeah…THAT BJ Thomas

54 teleskiguy  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:10:13pm

Finally got around to watching the President’s remarks he made today. Very sober. I happen to think he’s telling the truth about the black experience in the US.

Is he stoking a race war? By assuming that, these RWNJs are letting their racist freak flags fly high today. Just disgusting stuff. And thanks to a few select LGF comments, I have seen the most vile racist Twitter accounts imaginable (not dogging LGF comments, it’s good to air the dirty laundry, still though, I need brain bleach).

What kills me is the fact that RWNJs - up to and after the verdict was read - were accusing the “left” of wishing for race wars, when in fact it was the RWNJs that wanted riots so bad. It’s a stunning (and sadly, predictable) instance of cognitive dissonance.

55 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:10:16pm

re: #53 darthstar

Yeah…THAT BJ Thomas

Raindrops…

56 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:10:41pm

re: #53 darthstar

Yeah…THAT BJ Thomas

@MrStanleyClarke follows you

57 Higgs Boson's Mate  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:20:28pm

re: #47 Gus

The younger derps all look like the Squares in “Cry-Baby.” They’d look perfect in a daisy chain doing the Bunny Hop down the middle of Derp Street.

58 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:26:01pm

re: #53 darthstar

Yeah…THAT BJ Thomas

Fuke yeah! “Raindrops keep falling on my head…”

59 blueraven  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:42:21pm

The presidents remarks today were a necessary release valve for the frustration and anger that was building up during this horrid week.

His speech was thoughtful, nuanced and from the heart.

Suck it, racist and race baiters!

60 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:43:43pm
61 blueraven  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:47:34pm

re: #60 Gus

Me! That pic made me yawn…immediately.

62 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 8:51:22pm

My buddy is under the impression I’m bringing my Dark Eldar to the game tomorrow. Meanwhile, I’m finishing up the prep for my Space Wolves.

The silly git is going to be livid.

63 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:03:20pm
64 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:04:51pm

re: #62 Kragar

My buddy is under the impression I’m bringing my Dark Eldar to the game tomorrow. Meanwhile, I’m finishing up the prep for my Space Wolves.

They silly git is going to be livid.

Of course, he may have a force that can face both factions competently.

65 Gus  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:07:38pm
66 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:07:51pm

re: #64 Dark_Falcon

Of course, he may have a force that can face both factions competently.

Nope. He’s got Tau, which he insists can be effective in close quarters.

67 sagehen  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:11:15pm

re: #54 teleskiguy

Finally got around to watching the President’s remarks he made today. Very sober. I happen to think he’s telling the truth about the black experience in the US.

Is he stoking a race war? By assuming that, these RWNJs are letting their racist freak flags fly high today. Just disgusting stuff. And thanks to a few select LGF comments, I have seen the most vile racist Twitter accounts imaginable (not dogging LGF comments, it’s good to air the dirty laundry, still though, I need brain bleach).

Everything the President said today, every Black person in America already knew. Everybody who has a Black friend (an actual friend, not an “I’m not a racist I have a black friend” acquaintance) already knew.

The only people who weren’t already fully aware of these facts… are white people who don’t know any black people well enough to speak to about anything other than work. Not only weren’t they aware, they’re heavily invested in it not being true. So they tell themselves and each other that the President is making it up to get people riled up.

68 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:13:37pm

re: #66 Kragar

Nope. He’s got Tau, which he insists can be effective in close quarters.

They’re too risk averse to do well in CQB against Space Marines. The Tau are more adaptable than the Imperium, but they don’t go in for Ruthless Aggression, and you don’t beat Space Marines any other way.

69 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:16:43pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

They’re too risk averse to do well in CQB against Space Marines. The Tau are more adaptable than the Imperium, but they don’t go in for Ruthless Aggression, and you don’t beat Space Marines any other way.

He keeps tying to get in close with Devilfish and drop off troops to fire off volleys within rapid fire range.

Effective against IG and other light armor troops.

Not so much against Wolves.

70 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:18:48pm

re: #69 Kragar

He keeps tying to get in close with Devilfish and drop off troops to fire off volleys within rapid fire range.

Effective against IG and other light armor troops.

Not so much against Wolves.

Concur. Heavy assault troops like that have to be met with other heavy forces. You have to smash units like that and that takes firepower.

71 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:22:15pm

re: #69 Kragar

He keeps tying to get in close with Devilfish and drop off troops to fire off volleys within rapid fire range.

Effective against IG and other light armor troops.

Not so much against Wolves.

That last post having been said, that kind of tactic with the Tau would work well to rapidly seize an area and hold it against enemy advance guards. But trying it against Space Wolves makes me think you buddy’s Tau force are about to emulate the British 1st Airbourne at Arnhem.

72 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:22:44pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Concur. Heavy assault troops like that have to be met with other heavy forces. You have to smash units like that and that takes firepower.

He needs to sit back and make me come to him, then use his transports to seize objectives later in the game after my assault is broken by his long range and anti-armor fire.

Alas, he takes little of either, expecting close range fusion guns to deal with heavy targets. The problem is I have enough foresight to make those a priority target.

73 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:27:19pm

If I really wanted to be a dick, I’d bring out Logan Grimnar and hit him with 6 Squads of Wolf Guard Terminators.

74 Pip's Squeak  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:28:42pm

The video is techno-kitsch. It’s awful.

75 sagehen  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:28:53pm

The Time Obama Was Mistaken for a Waiter at a Tina Brown Book Party

“What I will always remember,” Rosman wrote in 2008, “is as I was leaving that party … I was approached by another guest, an established author. He asked about the man I had been talking to. Sheepishly he told me he didn’t know that Obama was a guest at the party, and had asked him to fetch him a drink. In less than six years, Obama has gone from being mistaken for a waiter among the New York media elite, to the president-elect. What a country.”

76 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:43:11pm

Kanye West = Violent Asshole

77 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:45:17pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

Kanye West = Violent Asshole

The guy has had a chip on his shoulder for years.

78 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:52:47pm

re: #77 Kragar

The guy has had a chip on his shoulder for years.

Screaming at people is one thing, but if he keeps attacking photographers like this, eventually he’s going to hurt someone badly and then find himself seeing his daughter through visiting booth glass in prison.

It’s noteworthy, BTW that he only does this in California. He never gets violent in New York City, where beating someone up will get you serious jail time, no matter how famous you are.

79 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:56:45pm

re: #78 Dark_Falcon

Kanye West alleged rant leaked after 2009 Taylor Swift VMA confrontation

The apparent reason West so abruptly stole the microphone from Swift, claiming Beyonce deserved the award for “Best Female Video” over her, was because of the hard work he had just done while rewriting his verse on track “Run This Town.”

“Because I did that, Taylor Swift cannot win over Beyoncé! Because I wrote my verse in two days, Taylor Swift cannot beat Beyoncé,” he can be heard firmly saying.

“As long as I’m alive! And if I’m alive, kill me then! Kill me then! As long as I’m alive, you gon’ have to deal with it. ‘Cause there ain’t gonna be no more motherf—-ing Elvises with no James Browns.”
…
“Two VMA nominations!! If you vote and get us one, I promise to keep a firmer grip on the mic this time,” she wrote.

An unidentified female voice chimed in during the leaked rant, asking West why he was so angry.

“Because my mother got arrested for the f—kin’ sit-ins,” he said.

“My mother died for this fame s—t! I moved to f—kin’ Hollywood chasing this shit. My mother died because of this s—t. F—k MTV.”

West also goes on to bash Pink for performing twice that night.

“What the f—k was Pink performing? Don’t nobody know that song. Pink performed twice! Two songs? How the f—k Pink perform two songs and I didn’t even get asked to perform ‘Heartless,’ he said of his own hit at the time.

“Heartless” is the biggest song of the year! It had the most spins of the first quarter! I don’t know that Pink song! But I noticed that she’s pink!”

The guy is a no class asshole who is setting himself up for a fall.

80 sagehen  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:57:29pm

He never used to beat people up before his mother died; he didn’t even speak rudely back then. Her disapproval-face must have been something fierce.

81 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 9:59:28pm

re: #80 sagehen

He never used to beat people up before his mother died; he didn’t even speak rudely back then. Her disapproval-face must have been something fierce.

Yeah, the general consensus around here is that, because of his mother’s death, from ill advised plastic surgery, Kenye kinda lost the plot.

82 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:01:08pm

re: #80 sagehen

He never used to beat people up before his mother died; he didn’t even speak rudely back then. Her disapproval-face must have been something fierce.

Sadly, some people don’t control themselves, but rather are held in check by someone else. when that other person dies or weakens greatly, the Inner Demon comes out to ‘play’.

83 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:02:26pm

re: #74 Pip’s Squeak

The video is techno-kitsch. It’s awful.

Au contraire.

84 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:03:50pm

re: #81 OhNoZombies!

Yeah, the general consensus around here is that, because of his mother’s death, from ill advised plastic surgery, Kenye kinda lost the plot.

He’s still brilliant, musically.

85 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:05:38pm

re: #84 prairiefire

He’s still brilliant, musically.

Meh.

86 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:06:21pm

re: #84 prairiefire

He’s still brilliant, musically.

He’s an artist. And he’s…moody.

87 BongCrodny  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:07:39pm

re: #79 Kragar

Kanye West alleged rant leaked after 2009 Taylor Swift VMA confrontation

The guy is a no class asshole who is setting himself up for a fall.

I hear that he’s a gay fish.

88 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:07:46pm

Just read the transcript of the President’s remarks. Everything he said was true. There was no demagoguery or sermonizing. So, only a complete idiot or someone.blinding by hatred of Obama could argue he was inciting a race war.

The ones trying to start a race war are the same ones that accuse Obama and “the left” of being racists.

89 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:09:49pm

re: #87 BongCrodny

I hear that he’s a gay fish.

I hear that he just realized that he’s now a Kardashian.
Forever.

90 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:16:51pm

re: #84 prairiefire

He’s still brilliant, musically.

The extent to which that matters is limited, though. Allowing someone to get away with physically attacking others simply because he is an excellent singer is a “broken window”. It is not just bad in and of itself, it also encourages other people to engage in lawless and violent behavior.

91 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:18:03pm

San Diego county clerk: Let me ‘enforce state law’ by denying marriage licenses to same sex couples

Ernest “Ernie” Dronenburg, the county clerk in San Diego, California, and his lawyers filed an emergency petition before the California courts this afternoon asking for a temporary stay to state Attorney General Kamala Harris’ (D) recent order to start accepting marriage licenses applications. Her order followed the June U.S. Supreme Court ruling in favor of same sex marriage and the Monday state Supreme Court ruling refusing to issue a stay to other petitioners.

Dronenburg seeks an immediate stay in order to refrain from issuing marriage licenses while his case is considered, after which he claims to expect that he will not be forced by the state to issue such licenses. In his brief (available at BuzzFeed), Dronenburg argues that the federal courts have no jurisdiction over marriage in the state, that the state officials who ordered county clerks to issue marriage licenses in keeping with the courts’ rulings have no authority to tell him what to do, and that he is the one attempting to uphold the actual state law which supposedly defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

Dronenburg additionally claims that, without an injunction to allow him to deny marriage licenses to couples seeking to marry in the county, he is “suffering, and will continue to suffer, irreparable injury and damage.”

No. Now get out.

92 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:21:15pm

re: #91 Kragar

San Diego county clerk: Let me ‘enforce state law’ by denying marriage licenses to same sex couples

No. Now get out.

Butthurt Level: Massive

Youtube Video

93 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:25:52pm
Dronenburg, who was first elected to office in 2010, is represented in his legal proceedings by the Freedom of Defense Conscience Fund, which also filed briefs at the U.S. Supreme Court in support of keeping same sex marriage illegal in California. They are also currently representing a New Jersey non-profit, JONAH, which is being sued by the Southern Poverty Law Center for fraud because it offers so-called “gay conversion therapy” promising to “cure” clients. The FDCF is additionally involved in cases related to the birth control mandate of the Affordable Care Act and once sued the city of San Diego for sexual harassment after four Christian firefighters were asked to participate in an LGBT pride parade.
94 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:29:37pm

re: #89 OhNoZombies!

I hear that he just realized that he’s now a Kardashian.
Forever.

Or maybe he just decided to to own the label President Obama hung on him after the Taylor Swift incident. Because Kanye was surely acting like a “jackass” when he went after that cameraman.

95 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:30:35pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

I only said he was brilliant.

96 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:32:47pm

re: #95 prairiefire

I only said he was brilliant.

I know, but I editorialize compulsively. I’m that way in real life, too.

98 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:33:46pm

re: #95 prairiefire

I only said he was brilliant.

I only know him for his work in ruining otherwise okay songs with his crap.

99 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:36:12pm

Kanye West ~ Runaway ~Youtube Video

100 freetoken  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:36:22pm

re: #91 Kragar

This is why I vote, in particular in the off years. Local offices are full of politicians on a mission, and it is important to weed them out. It’s a never ending process.

You’d never know by reading his bio:
smartvoter.org
that he’d try such a thing as he did today.

101 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:42:20pm

Well, off to do some drawing.
Have a good night everyone! :-)

102 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:42:50pm

re: #99 prairiefire

Kanye West ~ Runaway ~[Embedded content]

Mmhmmm.

I stand by my previous statement.

103 Kragar  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:43:37pm

Now if you want real brilliance…

Youtube Video

104 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:43:49pm

Good Night, All.

105 kirkspencer  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:46:44pm

re: #100 freetoken

This is why I vote, in particular in the off years. Local offices are full of politicians on a mission, and it is important to weed them out. It’s a never ending process.

You’d never know by reading his bio:
smartvoter.org
that he’d try such a thing as he did today.

Yes you would, but you have to catch the codes.
He was appointed by the Speaker of the US House of Representatives as a commissioner on the IRS Restructuring Commission in 1997. That means Newt Gingrich assigned him as one of the hatchet men meant to neuter the IRS. He actively supports the California Taxpayer Bill of Rights. TABORs are, well, they consistently wind up with massive cuts in taxes with the majority of cuts benefiting the wealthy — at best. He started his own Taxpayers Advocacy firm when forced to retire (due to age) from Deloitte.

That’s three clues that he’s very Tea Party/anti-tax.

106 prairiefire  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 10:51:52pm

Lorde ~ Royals (US version)Youtube Video

107 teleskiguy  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 11:02:40pm
108 teleskiguy  Fri, Jul 19, 2013 11:33:13pm

re: #67 sagehen

Everything the President said today, every Black person in America already knew. Everybody who has a Black friend (an actual friend, not an “I’m not a racist I have a black friend” acquaintance) already knew.

True. I think Ta-Nehisi Coates did a good job writing about the President’s remarks and how significant they were for black people.

109 freetoken  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 12:34:27am

MP3 Audio

110 engineer cat  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 1:09:59am

ok i have nao got a ticket to burning man 2013

haven’t been since 2004

111 Jayleia  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 2:47:10am

re: #10 Kid A

Inspirational DERPES! of the day:

He said what? Y’know, Obama kinda DOES have a country…and it doesn’t look much like CUBA!

I need a drink, and its not even 6 am.

112 freetoken  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 2:53:10am

Nana Mouskouri:

MP3 Audio

113 freetoken  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 3:27:02am

Checking over at National Racists Online we see plenty of articles (at the top) gloating over Detroit’s bankruptcy, flavored with a few articles about Al Sharpton, all set in a sea of Zimmerman-story outrage at Obama pieces.

Oh, but the one piece of news actually affecting NR somehow mysteriously is absent:

DC Court affirms Michael Mann’s right to proceed in defamation lawsuit against National Review and CEI

Two decisions handed down July 19 in DC Superior Court affirmed climate scientist Michael Mann’s right to proceed in his defamation lawsuit against the Competitive Enterprise Institute and the National Review Online for their statements accusing him of data manipulation and fraud. The Court is not buying the Defendants arguments in their Motion to Dismiss that their statements are protected speech under the First Amendment, mere “opinion,” “rhetorical hyperbole,” or “fair comment.”

[…]

114 lawhawk  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 5:07:55am

re: #113 freetoken

Oh, and not just gloating about Detroit, but clearly misreading the filing and the judge blocking the filing because it violates the Michigan constitution. NR, Podhoretz and others think that the judge was somehow honoring or obeying the President. Idiots - she was following the law - the constitution of the state where the filing entity was located. If she ignored the state constitution, that’d be a bigger problem, especially considering how much these so-called law and order types are into the plain language of the constitution.

Nothing could be plainer than the actual language that prohibits reducing the accrued pension benefits in the Michigan constitution.

115 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 5:32:19am

re: #114 lawhawk

Oh, and not just gloating about Detroit, but clearly misreading the filing and the judge blocking the filing because it violates the Michigan constitution. NR, Podhoretz and others think that the judge was somehow honoring or obeying the President. Idiots - she was following the law - the constitution of the state where the filing entity was located. If she ignored the state constitution, that’d be a bigger problem, especially considering how much these so-called law and order types are into the plain language of the constitution.

Nothing could be plainer than the actual language that prohibits reducing the accrued pension benefits in the Michigan constitution.

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And she was elected, not appointed: library.icle.org

116 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 5:58:04am

re: #82 Dark_Falcon

Sadly, some people don’t control themselves, but rather are held in check by someone else. when that other person dies or weakens greatly, the Inner Demon comes out to ‘play’.

It’s been noted that the late Amy Winehouse really went off the rails after the death of her grandmother, who was by all accounts a positive stabilizing influence.

117 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:31:39am

re: #75 sagehen

The Time Obama Was Mistaken for a Waiter at a Tina Brown Book Party

It’s not just ignorant, uneducated types who exhibit this kind of racism. It’s across the board, demographically speaking; this was a particular kind of class+racism issue.

118 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:50:09am

Well, I have a new to me computer now. It’s an Acer C7 Chromebook. It’s designed to run Chrome OS and store everything in the cloud. It’s ok at that if you have a constant fast connection and it’s cheap ($199 new - $100 for me used). But the key is it takes up to 8 gb RAM & has a 320 gb hard disk rather than the usual Chromebook 16 gb SSD. A bit of puttering around and it’s a linux laptop (Xubuntu 13.04) with all my data files & music transfered to it :)

Even though it’s a slow dual core Celeron, it’s still MUCH faster than a 11 year old 1.8 ghz P4M with 2 gb. More ram, more disk & more CPU in a small package? Big win.

I like Chrome as a browser but I do more than live in a browser. Having a proper OS & the ability to do what I want to makes it better than the original Chromebook concept or, worse for me, a tablet.

119 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:54:16am

re: #117 Justanotherhuman

It boils down to stereotypes and assumptions rather than factual information. Ignorance. This is the harm, the danger even, of “othering”, it dehumanizes people and makes it much easier to disregard a single person’s humanity. We see it in human trafficking(seriously, how could you force someone into prostitution or slavery if you saw them as human?), the genocide in Rwanda was cheered on by radio broadcasts calling the “other” cockroaches to be exterminated, the Nazi led genocide- same thing, Jews, Roma, Homosexuals, all “othered” so they became nothing more than a nuisance that had to GO. It happened to the American Indians, they were savages that either had to be saved from their inferior culture, or pests that stood in the way of progress.

I don’t think we can seriously call ourselves advanced or even civilized on any level until we make this part of our culture unacceptable. It’s going to be a long and uphill battle to get there.

120 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 6:58:54am

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Howard Kurtz is an idiot. Way to admit you’re a clueless dolt ya dumbass.

Sigh. It would be a lot more funny if he wasn’t paid well to pontificate from his little tuffet in whiteguyland.

121 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:02:54am
122 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:12:21am

re: #121 Gus

One of the few people to ask Bush 43 tough questions. Rest in peace.

123 erik_t  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:12:46am

Quote of the morning, re: Nate Silver, who is leaving the Times for a gig at ESPN.

124 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:16:17am

For Helen:

125 Randall Gross  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:18:06am

Meanwhile the derptasmic collapse of reason on the right continues:

126 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:21:13am

re: #121 Gus

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RIP, Helen. You trod where lesser men wouldn’t dare.

127 erik_t  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:21:29am

I’m sure Martin’s parents care a great deal about their political pawn-ness compared to, yaknow, their dead kid.

Fucking people.

128 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:24:20am

re: #125 Randall Gross

Meanwhile the derptasmic collapse of reason on the right continues:

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I hope the Koch Brothers paid a lot for your soul, Nolte. I’d hate to think you could spew such evil for peanuts.

129 Stanley Sea  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:29:07am

This happened

130 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:30:24am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

This happened in my city

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Malicious or was it a case of “when you gotta go…”

131 Stanley Sea  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:31:52am

re: #130 Gus

Malicious or was it a case of “when you gotta go…”

She was caught twice!

132 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:32:46am

re: #131 Stanley Sea

She was caught twice!

Ah. OK, that’ll do it.

133 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:35:54am

re: #125 Randall Gross

Meanwhile the derptasmic collapse of reason on the right continues:

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Ah, so Obama secretly arranged for all those hours and hours of pro-Zimmerman coverage on Fox in order to distract us from the real issues?

Makes complete sense to me.

134 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:38:09am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Joggers do have cute little poopers.

135 erik_t  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:38:28am

re: #125 Randall Gross

re: #133 BongCrodny

Ah, so Obama secretly arranged for all those hours and hours of pro-Zimmerman coverage on Fox in order to distract us from the real issues?

Makes complete sense to me.

Nolte also makes the dangerous logical leap to assume that when he writes “Libya”, his followers can make the connection to #BENGHAZI!!!1

I’m dubious, personally.

136 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:38:57am

He could put up a sign on the fence that read, “Hey lady, quit shitting in my hard” with her picture on it.

137 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:39:17am

re: #134 darthstar

Joggers do have cute little poopers.

BYOB

138 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:39:53am

Bring your own, bag. //

139 erik_t  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:40:52am

re: #138 Gus

Bring your own, bag. //

Or “butt”.

140 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:42:24am

re: #136 darthstar

He could put up a sign on the fence that read, “Hey lady, quit shitting in my hard” with her picture on it.

Sometimes you just have to embarrass people. If they can be, that is. Otherwise, if the guy was home, just step outside and tell her he’s called the cops.

141 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:43:03am
142 ObserverArt  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:50:38am

So I see Mr. Kanye West was being his usual pleasant self and caught on video.

Within the context of America’s conversation this past week I noticed something right off.

He’s wearing a dark hoodie.

Think of all the ways this plays into the stereotypes that everyone is trying to play down…

…ALL the ways.

143 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:55:04am

Just stole this pic from my Republican brother of all people.

Image: 1016746_10151779355244493_1295158538_n.jpg

144 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:55:20am
145 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 7:59:47am
146 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:00:08am
147 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:03:45am
148 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:06:03am

Just because I love Billy Bragg

149 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:26:17am
150 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:33:06am

Cuccinelli will work hard to make Virginia worse than Texas.

151 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:36:52am
153 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:45:43am

re: #152 dragonath

One hell of a deal: Pope Francis offers reduced time in Purgatory for Catholics that follow him on Twitter

Wait what

What do I get if I friend him on Facebook?

154 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:48:34am

re: #152 dragonath

One hell of a deal: Pope Francis offers reduced time in Purgatory for Catholics that follow him on Twitter

Wait what

That’s an interesting twist on the Plenary indulgence … LOL!

More here if you really want to know: en.wikipedia.org

Suffice to say, this is one of those big differences between Rome & Protestants ;)

155 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:54:04am
156 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:55:35am
157 Bear  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:56:23am

How about a change from all the bad news to something good? Perhaps a few seconds taken to watch the otters will help today.
adn.com

158 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 8:57:24am

Since it’s a little slow around here today, I’m going to ask a kinda dumb question. Bear with me(and not with real bears,ha)…

I’ve never been to college, one day I will probably go. Since I’ve never been, I don’t know the first thing about the admissions process or any of that stuff. But I want to look into a trade school or vocational type school for my son who is 19 and has Asperger’s. Here’s the thing, there are SO many rip off and dubious two year or technical or trade schools out there, I have NO IDEA how to figure out what is legit and what isn’t. Is there a way to figure that out, or would I need to find a school and then call a university to see if credits from that school would ever be transferable? Is there some sort of accreditation legit schools have that I could look for?

I have an ex husband who spent close to 50K back in the day(I checked, it’s nearly double that now)for a degree from the Art Institute of Pittsburgh in professional photography. To my knowledge, that “degree” never got him any job anywhere. I’ve looked at sound engineering/audio tech schools for my kidI(he’s a total metalhead, but not a great musician, though he has taught himself to play a little guitar and some drums), and the cost is just astounding, almost as much as medical school. Yet year after year these schools are crammed with young people. I do not want my son to get sucked into a program that is worthless when he’s done. Any ideas or thoughts?

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:00:15am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

Check with your local community college. Most have one or two-year programs for trades, and often are offered in conjunction with area companies and/or unions.

160 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:02:06am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

Also look into your local building trade unions. Electrician or plumping would be apprenticeships that could work well for him based on your descriptions. How are his math skills?

161 Bear  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:02:54am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

A big plus to Community College trade programs.

162 BigPapa  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:09:23am

The Daily Caller Sends Uneducated Intern To White House, Defends How He Made Them Look Like Idiots

In response to criticism regarding their sending an intern to cover the White House press room, Tucker Carlson and Neil Patel of The Daily Caller issued a statement (with musical accompaniment not included here):

Some reporters in Washington are asking why The Daily Caller sent our intern Gabe Finger to the White House press briefing this afternoon. Talk about missing the point. The real question is, why did it take a 16-year-old intern to raise an obvious and important question that the White House press corps should have asked days ago? We don’t care how old Gabe Finger is. It doesn’t matter to us what his credentials are. All we care about is how well he does his job. Today he did it a lot better than most White House reporters.

This highlights the usual problem from anything coming out of The Daily Caller, their complete and total detachment from reality. They, along with their intern, completely and absolutely fail in comprehending civics. To them, the problem was not that they had an intern asking the White House if the federal government was going to send the 101st airborne to protect the Zimmerman family, but that no other journalist had.

163 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:12:19am
164 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:13:33am
165 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:16:55am

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t think we have a community college around here. We have a couple of “tech schools”,but I am not sure how to check and see if they’re legit or not. There is a state university near us that has various certificate programs and continuing adult education offerings, but a lot of their offerings are online only, which sends up red flags for me. I’m probably making this harder than it needs to be, lol.

166 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:18:43am

re: #160 William Barnett-Lewis

His math skills are horrendous. He did ok before the schools here did this “integrated math” insanity(which they ditched this year) but he really struggles with anything beyond the basics.

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:21:32am

re: #166 A Mom Anon

His math skills are horrendous. He did ok before the schools here did this “integrated math” insanity(which they ditched this year) but he really struggles with anything beyond the basics.

That’s going to hurt his chances at any kind of real job. I’d strongly suggest a remedial class at even that local tech college. He’s going to need at least up to basic algebra if he wants to do anything even somewhat technical.

What state are you in again?

168 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:23:23am

MAKING LOCK YOUR CAR JOKES ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE IS NOT RACIST!!
— Wingnut

169 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:27:11am

re: #165 A Mom Anon

Here is a list of Community Colleges by State: en.wikipedia.org

170 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:28:35am

re: #168 Gus

MAKING LOCK YOUR CAR JOKES ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE IS NOT RACIST!!
— Wingnut

The other stupid part of this is that taxes have never been lower. What do rich people want the govt to pay them money?

171 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:29:16am
172 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:31:55am

re: #152 dragonath

One hell of a deal: Pope Francis offers reduced time in Purgatory for Catholics that follow him on Twitter

Wait what

“So I got that going for me which is nice.”

173 ObserverArt  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:31:56am

re: #162 BigPapa

The Daily Caller Sends Uneducated Intern To White House, Defends How He Made Them Look Like Idiots

Why would the Zimmermans need protection?

Anything that would happen would just be God’s Plan


/// with a heaping dash of cynicism.

174 Stanley Sea  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:32:18am

re: #171 Gus

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whoa

175 jaunte  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:33:18am

re: #171 Gus

Wow. They sure know how to appeal to the “real victims.”

176 sagehen  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:35:33am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

I want to look into a trade school or vocational type school for my son who is 19 and has Asperger’s. Here’s the thing, there are SO many rip off and dubious two year or technical or trade schools out there, I have NO IDEA how to figure out what is legit and what isn’t. Is there a way to figure that out, or would I need to find a school and then call a university to see if credits from that school would ever be transferable? Is there some sort of accreditation legit schools have that I could look for?

You can’t go wrong with a State-owned junior college. Tuition isn’t as cheap as it used to be (budget cuts!!), you’ll pay almost as much as you would at a private school, but the for-profits mostly suck and the state schools do for-real transferrable credits.

Also… if there’s a union for whatever trade he wants to train for, call their office and ask them. They might even have an apprentice/journeyman program affiliated with a JC whose curriculum they have input to.

177 Stanley Sea  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:35:40am

re: #175 jaunte

Wow. They sure know how to appeal to the “real victims.”

They just up the offensive.

178 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:39:46am

I think the first step might be just to get him into math classes and get those skills in order. Going back to school is going to be tough for him because high school was just an awful experience.

re: #167 William Barnett-Lewis

We’re in GA, I think Chattahoochee Tech is probably one of the closest schools to us. We’re kind of on hold, he’s on a waiting list to get into a state program for young adults with autism that will help pay for his schooling, and if we do too much outside of their parameters, they’ll take him out of the queue and close his case file(which I fought to have opened in the first place, long, long story). He needs to pick a school and field of study at some point, sooner rather than later. I’ll make some calls this week to the various trade unions around here, there has to be someone who we could at least go talk to about various career options.

My main concern is just staying the hell away from ripoff schools in the first place. How some of this stuff is even legal I have no idea.

179 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:43:28am
180 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:44:22am

re: #178 A Mom Anon

Chattahoochee Tech is listed as part of the State’s technical school system.

181 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:45:58am

re: #169 PhillyPretzel

Here is a list of Community Colleges by State: en.wikipedia.org

This is the school I attended in the early 70s for almost 2 yrs and it was great then, although much smaller than it is now (I wouldn’t be able to navigate the campus now, even though we had some new bldgs then). I also attended it’s mother, Central HS (the original bldg is still there) for one semester in 10th grade.

“In 2012, US President Barack Obama invoked CPCC in his State of the Union Address.” en.wikipedia.org

182 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:50:44am

re: #180 PhillyPretzel

I’m such a doofus, I know exactly where the school is too. It’s directly across the street from the Harley dealership where my husband bought his bike a few years ago.

183 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:51:02am

re: #181 Justanotherhuman

I started at Community College of Philadelphia then I transferred to La Salle University.

184 twisty  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:52:25am

re: #166 A Mom Anon

His math skills are horrendous. He did ok before the schools here did this “integrated math” insanity(which they ditched this year) but he really struggles with anything beyond the basics.

If he ever needs to brush up his math skills for a job or just personal learning, I recommend taking a look at Khan Academy. It’s a set of video tutorials and practice exercises, doesn’t offer any kind of certificates that I’m aware of, but it’s helped me improve my math understanding dramatically. It gives a lot of little achievement badges for completing certain tasks, which I think would appeal to someone on the autism spectrum.

185 efuseakay  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:53:15am

re: #155 Gus

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Look everyone. It’s Michael Bolton from Office Space!

186 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:53:39am

re: #182 A Mom Anon

I do know that many Community Colleges do have programs for people with disabilities. Ask, you may be plesantly surprised.

187 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:55:45am

re: #184 twisty

This is cool, thank you! I may use some of that myself.

188 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 9:59:27am
189 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:01:08am
190 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:04:01am

re: #166 A Mom Anon

His math skills are horrendous. He did ok before the schools here did this “integrated math” insanity(which they ditched this year) but he really struggles with anything beyond the basics.

Ever think about a private tutor to hone up on his maths skills? My son tutored a friends son (they were about the same age) and it helped our friends son immensely

191 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:06:37am
192 allegro  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:07:09am

My Mayor (and friend) on Colbert!

anniseparker.com

193 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:07:38am

Oy.

194 jaunte  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:08:26am

re: #193 Gus

During slavery black families were intact.

Uh huh.

195 austin_blue  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:12:01am

re: #166 A Mom Anon

His math skills are horrendous. He did ok before the schools here did this “integrated math” insanity(which they ditched this year) but he really struggles with anything beyond the basics.

Like She Who Must Be Obeyed says: “Those who can, play. Those who can’t, run sound boards.”

I run sound boards as a sideline. Your child sounds like an excellent candidate. Whether in the studio or at live shows, a good sound (wo)man can make a decent living in this world.

196 BongCrodny  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:12:06am

re: #171 Gus

National Review Online’s “Cartoon Of The Day” Portrays Al Sharpton As A Lynching Tree On Zimmerman Trial

Forget it, Jake — it’s Ramirez.

197 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:13:48am

re: #190 sattv4u2

I hired a college kid to help him while he was in high school. An honors math student even. She was completely baffled by what the hell they did to the math curriculum. We muddled through enough to get him through the state required math graduation test, what a nightmare. I could go that route again if we can’t find another option, just not sure what we’d use as a curriculum and starting off place.

Nothing is ever simple with this kid, I swear,lol.

198 AlexRogan  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:14:23am

re: #179 darthstar

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TP is definitely going for link bait there and leaving out a fair amount of info about the BSA’s height/weight criteria for all Scouts and Scouters, such as why it was instituted to begin with. The health/weight criteria that National uses (which is based on the Dietary Guidelines for Americans table from the USDA and HHS) is one of the primary means to determine a Scout or Scouter’s eligibility to participate in high-adventure activities (backcountry hiking, backpacking, rappelling, etc.) more than 30 minutes away from where an ambulance can reach them by road, but BMI can optionally be used to grant exceptions to this:

If you exceed the maximum weight for height as explained on the next
page and your planned high-adventure activity will take you more than
30 minutes away from an emergency vehicle/accessible roadway, you
will not be allowed to participate. At the discretion of the medical
advisers of the event and/or camp, participation of an individual
exceeding the maximum weight for height may be allowed if the body
fat percentage measured by the health care provider is determined
to be 20 percent or less for a female or 15 percent or less for a male.
(Philmont requires a hydrostatic weighing or DXA test to be used for
this determination.) Please call the event leader and/or camp if you
have any questions. Enforcing the height/weight guidelines is strongly
encouraged for all other events.

This policy is nothing new; National’s high-adventure bases (Philmont Scout Ranch [which I have been to four times in the past twenty years], Florida Sea Base, Northern Tier in MN, and now the new Summit Bechtel Reserve in WVA [which is where the National Jamboree is being held this year]) have used this criteria for at least 15 years or more, because they involve strenuous activities in remote locations that are difficult for emergency personnel to reach in a timely manner (at Philmont, for example, there have been instances where overweight trekkers had heart issues or other injuries in the backcountry, where they have had to truck or even airlift them out; also, much of the man-portable rescue equipment has a 300-pound maximum load capacity, so there’s that).

What is new is that the criteria now applies to all Scouts and Scouters for any high-adventure activity undertaken under the aegis of Scouting anywhere, even troop activities; this does not preclude obese members from participating in “normal” Scouting activities (such as summer camp).

199 sagehen  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:15:44am

re: #193 Gus

Oy.

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Seriously? He thinks during slavery black families were intact? He’s never heard of their kids being sold away?

That’s some weapons-grade willful ignorance.

200 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:16:28am

re: #197 A Mom Anon

I hired a college kid to help him while he was in high school. An honors math student even. She was completely baffled by what the hell they did to the math curriculum. We muddled through enough to get him through the state required math graduation test, what a nightmare. I could go that route again if we can’t find another option, just not sure what we’d use as a curriculum and starting off place.

Nothing is ever simple with this kid, I swear,lol.

If you’re planning on enrolling him somewhere, find out what they’re using and start there. Keep me posted. My son starts his sophomore year and is in Honors Math (has been since freshman high school, and in the advanced classes in math in grammar and middle school)

201 ninja cat  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:16:31am

re: #129 Stanley Sea

This happened

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It must be a jogger thing. We had a one do it 6 times over 2 months against my work building. At first we thought it was a very big, very sick dog until we saw the security camera coverage. One of my co-workers would go to work 1-2’s a week at 5:30 am and wait for her to do her thing. Finally he got lucky and followed her home. We’d already had the police involved and they went by later that day to basically tell her that technically the police couldn’t do anything but that we had her on tape and knew who she was. Haven’t seen her or her mess since.

202 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:22:06am

re: #193 Gus

Oy.

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Anyone who actually believes that is an idiot who needs psychiatric help.

203 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:22:06am

re: #195 austin_blue

He’d love doing that I think. I’m just not sure he has the aptitude for it. I see more phone calls in my future, to find a recording studio maybe? that would let him come in and talk to people who do the job. That’s what he needs I think, to talk to people who do all kinds of jobs, to see what he’d like to do, what the pay is, the good and bad sides of the job, etc.

The sad thing to me is that he entered high school thinking he could do anything. He endured such bullying and indifference that it totally stripped him of any sort of self worth or confidence. He was not at ALL encouraged in high school to go to any secondary education, any trade, NOTHING. He initially failed all the state mandated graduation tests, which didn’t help things. He graduated late as a result, and so we’ve been working this last year to just help him regain some security and equilibrium, to recover from what was for him, Hell.

204 Political Atheist  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:22:54am

Welp, there goes the preferred option through work out the window…

Anthem Blue Cross shuns insurance market for small businesses
Anthem is the first big insurer in California to publicly pass on the small-business health insurance pool.

Grrr

205 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:25:04am

re: #199 sagehen

Seriously? He thinks during slavery black families were intact? He’s never heard of their kids being sold away?

That’s some weapons-grade willful ignorance.

it’s selective ignorance- the worst kind.

206 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:25:48am

re: #201 ninja cat

Incidentally, you can get fined for peeing in public (and an indecent exposure charge), but not for taking a crap in public (considered a necessary bodily function). I love shitting outdoors, but only when I’m hiking or camping…

207 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:26:35am

re: #205 HappyWarrior

it’s selective ignorance- the worst kind.

It’s willful ignorance.

208 ObserverArt  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:29:34am

re: #193 Gus

Oy.

[The welfare state has been worse to the black family than slavery. During slavery black families were intact. Today, not so much!]

So, even if the slaves had guns to fight off becoming slaves it would not have mattered? Their salvation was in their being slaves.

Who knew. Don’t you just love all these new ground-breaking theories on race relations?

209 Kragar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:31:25am

Game got bounced to tomorrow. Meh.

210 A Mom Anon  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:35:04am

re: #200 sattv4u2

Did your school district do all that integrated math nonsense? I swear, that was just the worst thing for my kid. Before they messed with it, you had Math 1,2 and then Algebra 1,2, Trig, Calc, Geometry,Statistics and then Physics and Chemistry all separate classes, with only the Math and Algebra being required for graduation(with Physics required as part of the science credits). After the changes, Math 1&2 was combined with Algebra(which then created a Math 3 class) which also taught trig and statistics ALL AT ONCE. It was a mess. The classes moved so fast there was no time for anyone who fell behind and no alternative for kids who were not ever going to be able to get through anything past Algebra. Half of his graduating class failed the graduation test the first time it was given.

211 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:36:04am

...

212 twisty  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:36:49am

re: #208 ObserverArt

If I hear one more time from someone that African Americans should feel lucky because at least they’re in (surely wonderful/) America now instead of (surely terrible/) Africa because of US slavery, I’m gonna yarf. Aside from everything else terrible about that kind of statement and the gross assumption that all Africa is some hellhole, it’s like they’ve never stopped to consider that stealing enormous quantities of able bodied people out of a region just might be a destabilizing force in that region and we have no way of knowing what Africa would have looked like today without that.

213 darthstar  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:38:50am

Looks like GZ’s brother is doing some last minute image salvaging - for himself.

214 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:39:23am

Don’t forget that if you praise Helen Thomas some will accuse you of being antisemitic. Most particularly from the usual suspects.

215 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:41:44am

re: #214 Gus

That is why I said when I posted my LGF page “A force to be reckoned with.”

216 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:44:34am

re: #215 PhillyPretzel

That is why I said when I posted my LGF page “A force to be reckoned with.”

White House released a statement so you know it will SNAFU with the wingnuts.

217 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:46:05am

re: #216 Gus

White House released a statement so you know it will SNAFU with the wingnuts.

Of course, Pam Geller will see this as the “proof” that Obama’s in “cahoots” with Hamas.

218 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:48:23am

re: #217 HappyWarrior

Of course, Pam Geller will see this as the “proof” that Obama’s in “cahoots” with Hamas.

WH statement:

Michelle and I were saddened to learn of the passing of Helen Thomas. Helen was a true pioneer, opening doors and breaking down barriers for generations of women in journalism. She covered every White House since President Kennedy’s, and during that time she never failed to keep presidents - myself included - on their toes. What made Helen the “Dean of the White House Press Corps” was not just the length of her tenure, but her fierce belief that our democracy works best when we ask tough questions and hold our leaders to account. Our thoughts are with Helen’s family, her friends, and the colleagues who respected her so deeply.

219 HappyWarrior  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:49:28am

re: #218 Gus

WH statement:

Yeah they’re going to flip their shit over that but the truth is any president would have offered a similarly worded statement.

220 sattv4u2  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:56:24am

re: #210 A Mom Anon

you had Math 1,2 and then Algebra 1,2, Trig, Calc, Geometry,Statistics and then Physics and Chemistry all separate classes,

My son went to a private H.S, fully accredited by the State of GA. He took all those (most AP and/ or honors)

221 Gus  Sat, Jul 20, 2013 10:59:41am

bbl


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