Ted Nugent Says He’s “Anti-Racist,” Then Compares Black People to Dangerous Dogs

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It’s always a bit amazing to see right wing loons like Ted Nugent issue emphatic, categorical denials that they’re prejudiced or racist in any way, then segue right into blatantly racist hate speech.

National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent claimed to be “so anti-racist” that people “would be hard pressed … to find someone who has fought racism more than [he has],” moments before suggesting that African-Americans should be profiled the same way members of a community might profile a breed of dog that was attacking children.

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NUGENT: I think that typically when you see the, I don’t even remember the term they use, but the gangs of blacks lately that have been just been going down the downtown streets and breaking windows on cars. We played the Milwaukee state fair a couple years ago and these black mobs were just attacking white folks coming out of the fair. And over and over again I watch the news and here’s a rape and here’s a burglary and here’s a murder in Chicago. 29 shot. 29 blacks shot by 29 blacks. At some point you got to be afraid of black and white dogs if the Dalmatian’s doing the biting.

Ted Nugent, of course, has also been a guest more than once on the openly racist Memphis-based radio show Political Cesspool, which regularly features people like David Duke, Pat Buchanan, and a host of other white nationalist Neanderthals. His name appears on their guest list, along with quite a few other names you might recognize.

(That guest list page has now been deleted from the Political Cesspool website, by the way.)

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134 comments
1 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:33:40pm

Ted Nugent is anti-racist in the same way that North Korea is a people’s democratic republic.

2 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:33:48pm

Well, I’m sure he’s got black friends…

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3 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:34:41pm

re: #1 Ian G.

Ted Nugent is anti-racist in the same way that North Korea is a people’s democratic republic.

Or that Bryan Fischer is a loving Christian?

4 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:34:48pm
5 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:34:58pm

Anti-racist? Yeah I’m sure of that. Sick fuck. Hey, Mitt Romney, aren’t you so proud of your pal Ted here?

6 EPR-radar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:35:06pm

Seldom does the “protesting too much” label fit as well as it does to Nugent and his protestations that he is not a racist.

7 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:35:06pm

But..but..’bad dogs’ are good in the inverted world of bad-assed rockers, right?

8 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:35:25pm

Also,

We played the Milwaukee state fair a couple years ago and these black mobs were just attacking white folks coming out of the fair.

Is there any reputable news source that will confirm this allegation, or is this like the “Miami race riots” that happened after the Zimmerman verdict?

9 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:35:55pm

Also a guest on the Political Cesspool: Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.

10 geoffm33  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:36:28pm

Watched the That 70’s Show Episode last night where they go to the Ted Nugent concert. My wife asked who he was, I explained. We skipped to the next episode.

Funny part of that episode though is when Fez and Hyde try to sell Ted Nugent shirts, but Fez had them printed as “Tad Nugent”.

Youtube Video

11 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:36:46pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

I would call Nugent a “badass” anything. He’s a pants-shitting sniveling coward who put out some second-rate “music.”

12 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:37:50pm

I’d say “Shut up and sing,” but I can’t even stand the man’s singing. If there was ever anybody who needed to retire into obscurity, it’s this sack of shit.

13 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:37:55pm

Ted is just being a ‘canine-realist’.

14 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:39:06pm

re: #8 Ian G.

Also,

Is there any reputable news source that will confirm this allegation, or is this like the “Miami race riots” that happened after the Zimmerman verdict?

To Nugent Black mobs = Black people walking around.

15 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:39:42pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Also a guest on the Political Cesspool: Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.

Wow.

Here’s a name I haven’t seen in a while…

Filip DeWinter - Member of Belgium Parliament (Vlaams Belang)

16 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:39:45pm

Nugent: Stevie Wonder’s Florida boycott inspired by drug abuse

Speaking to right-wing talk show host and occasional Fox News contributor Andrea Tantaros on Tuesday, National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent declared that musicians like Stevie Wonder, who plan to boycott the state of Florida in the wake of George Zimmerman’s acquittal, are brain-damaged from a lifetime of drug abuse and must not know what they are doing.

“When you live in a fog of denial, usually inspired by a substance abuse — you know with all the lies about dope being a victimless crime, I think you’re listening to the victims of this dopey crime, because their brains are fried,” he said. “They’re either fried on substance abuse, and all of them know who I’m talking about.”

Nugent added that he thinks it is hypocritical to boycott Florida when the city of Chicago has one of the worst violent crime rates in the country. “Sometimes you can’t bring truth into a liar’s life,” he said, adding that he plans to boycott Chicago instead.

Can he boycott California too then?

17 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:40:39pm

From the cesspool guestlist:

The term “Southern Heritage Activist” comes up a lot.

18 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:40:43pm

re: #12 Targetpractice

I’d say “Shut up and sing,” but I can’t even stand the man’s singing. If there was ever anybody who needed to retire into obscurity, it’s this sack of shit.

On that note, are there actually any good wingnuts in pop music history, besides Johnny Ramone? I can think of great actors and directors and writers who held some nutty right-wing views, but they seem very rare among good pop musicians.

19 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:41:09pm

re: #16 Kragar

I do need to note that Stevie there is an actual musician. So, Nugent should learn to respect his superiors.

20 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:41:11pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

Also a guest on the Political Cesspool: Gary Puckett of Gary Puckett and the Union Gap.

And a certain pseudonym that Rand Paul would have recognized if he did his homework.

Southern Avenger, The - Charleston, South Carolina radio personality

Or should I say, Rand Paul did recognize, and then phoned for the second interview.

21 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:41:55pm

re: #16 Kragar

“When you live in a fog of denial, usually inspired by a substance abuse — you know with all the lies about dope being a victimless crime, I think you’re listening to the victims of this dopey crime, because their brains are fried,” he said. “They’re either fried on substance abuse, and all of them know who I’m talking about.”

OK, but enough about Ted Nugent’s mental state….

22 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:42:02pm

re: #16 Kragar

Nugent: Stevie Wonder’s Florida boycott inspired by drug abuse

Can he boycott California too then?

The guy who shat his pants to get out of the draft and got parental rights to a girl so he could screw her shouldn’t be throwing stones. And if you fuck with Stevie Wonder, you fuck with all of us Teddy Boy.

23 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:42:22pm

re: #19 ProTARDISLiberal

I do need to note that Stevie there is an actual musician. So, Nugent should learn to respect his superiors.

“Living For the City” is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, protest song ever. Of course, the song makes Stevie the real racist.////////////

24 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:43:35pm

re: #16 Kragar

Nugent: Stevie Wonder’s Florida boycott inspired by drug abuse

Can he boycott California too then?

Ted, I would go see Stevie Wonder in concert fifteen times before I’d ever be caught dead at one of your gigs.

25 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:43:58pm

re: #23 Ian G.

“Living For the City” is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, protest song ever. Of course, the song makes Stevie the real racist.////////////

It has the ‘N’ word in it! Why can’t I say that too!?!?!!!111!?

26 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:44:44pm

That guest list page has apparently been deleted from the Political Cesspool website, by the way.

27 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:44:54pm

Superstition > Cat Scratch Fever. When we discuss music after both of these guys are gone. Ted will be remembered for being a bitter right wing hack while Stevie will be remembered for being a musician.

28 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:44:57pm

dear mr nugent,

somehow i never find myself in a situation where it is necessary for me to say “i’m not a racist”

29 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:46:13pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Superstition > Cat Scratch Fever. When we discuss music after both of these guys are gone. Ted will be remembered for being a bitter right wing hack while Stevie will be remembered for being a musician.

I’d argue that Ted will be remembered for years to come as the punchline to jokes about assholes with too many guns and too few working brain cells.

30 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:47:27pm

re: #29 Targetpractice

I’d argue that Ted will be remembered for years to come as the punchline to jokes about assholes with too many guns and too few working brain cells.

Pretty much. I forget sometimes that he was even a musician.

31 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:47:54pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

That guest list page has apparently been deleted from the Political Cesspool website, by the way.

OK, then Rand probably couldn’t find it. If he knew the internet was forever, he wouldn’t have spoken about the Aqua Buddha so much.

32 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:48:02pm

If you find that the phrase “I’m not a racist but…” has become a statement you make on a regular basis, chances are you are a racist.

33 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:49:11pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Pretty much. I forget sometimes that he was even a musician.

That was the second concert I saw. It was also the loudest. I saw him in Johnstown Pa in 1980.

34 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:49:30pm

re: #32 Kragar

If you find that the phrase “I’m not a racist but…” has become a statement you make on a regular basis, chances are you are a racist.

Nine times outta ten, when someone starts a rant with “I’m not a racist, but…,” what follows is generally the sort of shit that would have made George Wallace’s jaw drop.

35 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:50:41pm

re: #32 Kragar

If you find that the phrase “I’m not a racist but…” has become a statement you make on a regular basis, chances are you are a racist.

Indeed.

36 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:51:03pm

re: #34 Targetpractice

Nine times outta ten, when someone starts a rant with “I’m not a racist, but…,” what follows is generally the sort of shit that would have made George Wallace’s jaw drop.

This. I remember a girl in my class in High School who said, without irony, “I’m not prejudiced, but I sure don’t like Porta Rickens!”

37 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:51:51pm

I am not a racist, I just stereotype whole groups of people. You’re a mean old lib for not letting me be politically incorrect!

38 Sionainn  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:52:35pm

If anyone is interested in the whole discussion between Cannon and Nugent, here’s the link. Start at about 6:43 to skip the opening.

39 Stanley Sea  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:52:45pm
40 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:52:47pm

re: #33 NJDhockeyfan

That was the second concert I saw. It was also the loudest. I saw him in Johnstown Pa in 1980.

Ha, honestly curious about the loudest now? I kind of exaggerate as I actually have some of his stuff, mostly from complications but his second act as gun paranoid in chief and racist twat does make me forget.

41 b.d.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:52:59pm

re: #18 Ian G.

On that note, are there actually any good wingnuts in pop music history, besides Johnny Ramone? I can think of great actors and directors and writers who held some nutty right-wing views, but they seem very rare among good pop musicians.

Neil Peart being a ‘Bleeding Heart Libertarian’ is about as close as I can get.

42 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:53:31pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

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I would have voted for Dukakis and Clinton over him but 41’s a good dude.

43 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:53:33pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

Ha, honestly curious about the loudest now? I kind of exaggerate as I actually have some of his stuff, mostly from complications but his second act as gun paranoid in chief and racist twat does make me forget.

No one is louder than Motorhead.

No one.

44 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:53:51pm

re: #39 Stanley Sea

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I will always have respect for Bush Sr.

45 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:54:43pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

I will always have respect for Bush Sr.

A statesman. And I have to say he looks good for 89.

46 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:54:48pm

re: #43 Kragar

No one is louder than Motorhead.

No one.

AC/DC is up there.

47 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:54:51pm

Ted boycotted a whole subcontinent (southeast Asia) back in the 60s, so Chicago and California shouldn’t present him any problems.
Hey, Ted, we missed you in Vietnam (along with Sly Stallone, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich and a host of others). I know you didn’t really shit yourself to avoid going, but you would have once you got there.

48 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:55:26pm

re: #46 NJDhockeyfan

AC/DC is up there.

Almost.

But not louder than Motorhead.

49 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:56:09pm

re: #41 b.d.

Neil Peart being a ‘Bleeding Heart Libertarian’ is about as close as I can get.

I’m trying to think of others. It’s easier with actors than musicians. I do remember my Dad joking that he voted for Clinton over H.W and Dole because he knew how awesome the music at the inauguration would be and part of the reason he took me at age five to Clinton’s first one was in part because Clinton had some bands playing that he liked.

50 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:56:33pm

re: #47 Shiplord Kirel

Ted boycotted a whole subcontinent (southeast Asia) back in the 60s, so Chicago and California shouldn’t present him any problems.
Hey, Ted, we missed you in Vietnam (along with Sly Stallone, Rush Limbaugh, Newt Gingrich and a host of others). I know you didn’t really shit yourself to avoid going, but you would have once you got there.

Ted’s the kinda guy who would have been more of a danger to his compatriots than to the enemy.

51 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:56:48pm

re: #27 HappyWarrior

Superstition > Cat Scratch Fever. When we discuss music after both of these guys are gone. Ted will be remembered for being a bitter right wing hack while Stevie will be remembered for being a musician.

Cartman’s “Kyle’s Mom is a Bitch” is better than anything Ted ever did.

52 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:57:24pm

I’ve been to 3 Motorhead concerts, all by sheer chance. They swapped in for other opening acts for other bands I’ve gone to see.

No one is louder.

53 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:57:48pm

Here is a pic of the train crash. It’s not sounding good.

54 SteveMcGazi  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:57:53pm

I always liked H. It’s a shame what happened to him as Vice President. By the time he became President he was a shadow of the man he was in 1980. Sort of like John McCain in 2008 vs McCain of 2000.

55 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:58:22pm

re: #48 Kragar

Almost.

But not louder than Motorhead.

Is loud good? Then an M109 Paladin battery are rock gods.

Image: M109A6_Paladin_night_fire.jpg

56 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:59:05pm

re: #53 NJDhockeyfan

Here is a pic of the train crash. It’s not sounding good.

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Crap.

Doesn’t look like it was bombed though, so there is that.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:59:20pm

re: #52 Kragar

I’ve been to 3 Motorhead concerts, all by sheer chance. They swapped in for other opening acts for other bands I’ve gone to see.

No one is louder.

I saw the Ramones in a bar once. Yes, they cranked up to 11.

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:59:47pm

Soooo…why isn’t Ted getting out there on the streets and protecting folks from all those gangs? Being as he is all that super duper with gunz and protecting freedumbs and all that shit…

ETA: Hell he could just use his guitar and play that crap he calls music and bring gangs to their knees…

59 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:00:00pm

re: #54 SteveMcGazi

I always liked H. It’s a shame what happened to him as Vice President. By the time he became President he was a shadow of the man he was in 1980. Sort of like John McCain in 2008 vs McCain of 2000.

I tend to think of Bush Sr. as the last of the pragmatic Republicans. Norquist still likes to claim his pelt as his first big “victory” and that’s why I hate the slimy bastard more than anything else. Man made a judgment call that his predecessor made numerous times, raising taxes to address the deficit, and he ended up vilified for it while Ronnie goes down in history as “one of the greats.”

60 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:00:06pm

re: #55 Decatur Deb

Is loud good? Then an M109 Paladin battery are rock gods.

Image: M109A6_Paladin_night_fire.jpg

Notice I said nothing about quality.

I do have to thank them for helping me pass my college chemistry lab final though.

61 SteveMcGazi  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:00:52pm

I remember Nugent as a good guitar player. I always figured the loincloth stuff was his shtick. I didn’t know he was really nutty. I remember he did an interview in his pre-wingnut days in which he said that he just preferred not to use drugs. He actually sounded respectable back then. He didn’t disparage anybody or anything like that.

62 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:01:05pm

re: #58 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soooo…why isn’t Ted getting out there on the streets and protecting folks from all those gangs? Being as he is all that super duper with gunz and protecting freedumbs and all that shit…

Because if he shoots anything with opposable thumbs, he risks losing all those shiny guns.

63 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:03:40pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I tend to think of Bush Sr. as the last of the pragmatic Republicans. Norquist still likes to claim his pelt as his first big “victory” and that’s why I hate the slimy bastard more than anything else. Man made a judgment call that his predecessor made numerous times, raising taxes to address the deficit, and he ended up vilified for it while Ronnie goes down in history as “one of the greats.”

There’s also the racism of the Willie Horton campaign spots and the shameless pandering of the flagburning stuff in 1988.

64 erik_t  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:04:37pm

re: #63 GeneJockey

There’s also the racism of the Willie Horton campaign spots and the shameless pandering of the flagburning stuff in 1988.

Certainly he was no saint, but when you look at what followed…

65 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:07:10pm

re: #63 GeneJockey

There’s also the racism of the Willie Horton campaign spots and the shameless pandering of the flagburning stuff in 1988.

I didn’t say he was perfect.

66 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:08:21pm

GHWB seems, and indeed always seemed, to have a sense of noblesse oblige that GWB lacked. Lied to get into the war when he was underage, instead of coasting to get out of one, for example, or his years as Ambassador and DCI.

67 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:10:06pm

That’s kind of what makes the Willy Horton and flagburning things so maddening, to me. I want to think of him as a good guy, because he did do a lot of things well, and way better than his own son, but then there are those glaring flaws.

68 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:12:00pm

re: #61 SteveMcGazi

I remember Nugent as a good guitar player. I always figured the loincloth stuff was his shtick. I didn’t know he was really nutty. I remember he did an interview in his pre-wingnut days in which he said that he just preferred not to use drugs. He actually sounded respectable back then. He didn’t disparage anybody or anything like that.

He knew three chords on the guitar, that was it.
And he usually couldn’t play those three chords coherently.

69 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:12:04pm

And this piece of shit is a police chief?

Youtube Video

70 Lidane  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:12:36pm

Dear Ted,

Please proceed. And please emphasize your NRA cred when you do so.

Kthxbai.

Me

71 elizajane  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:16:01pm

re: #56 Kragar

Crap.

Doesn’t look like it was bombed though, so there is that.

Witnesses say that there was an explosion. Hope this is not true.

rte.ie

Other reports say the train was going too fast.
It happened at Santiago de Compostela, one of the most important pilgrimage sites in the Christian world, on the day before dia di Santiago. I hope this was just a coincidence.

72 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:16:03pm

Machine-Gun-Toting Police Chief Says Viral Videos Were ‘In Support Of The Constitution’

Gilberton, Penn. police Chief Mark Kessler said Wednesday he was exercising his First and Second Amendment rights when he posted profanity-ridden videos to YouTube, in which he fires machine guns and calls Secretary of State John Kerry a “traitor” for supporting a U.N. arms treaty.

In a phone interview with the Pottsville Republican-Herald newspaper, Kessler defended two July 15 Youtube videos that went viral this week, one up to 31,319 views Tuesday from just 3,280 views on Monday by that newspaper’s count. The videos show him in plain clothes firing automatic weapons while going on verbal tirades about gun rights.

“I think the video is in support of the Constitution — the support of the First Amendment, the right to express your thoughts and words freely without reprisal from any government,” Kessler told the Republican-Herald. “That’s why I used the vocabulary I did. As for the firing of the guns, that is my Second Amendment right. I have the right to keep and bear arms regardless of what the government says that I don’t.”

73 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:17:26pm

re: #72 Kragar

Machine-Gun-Toting Police Chief Says Viral Videos Were ‘In Support Of The Constitution’

Does it scare anybody that the people who are supposed to be protecting us seem to be out of their fucking gourds?

74 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:18:25pm

re: #72 Kragar

“I think the video is in support of the Constitution — the support of the First Amendment, the right to express your thoughts and words freely without reprisal from any government,” Kessler told the Republican-Herald. “That’s why I used the vocabulary I did.

I have the Constitushunal Write to be an indiot and to say idiot things even though as a police chief and law enforcement officer I should practice discernment, but I haven’t learnt that yet.

75 Dave In Austin  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:20:38pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

As I saw earlier. Slap and Obama sticker on his patrol car when he’s in eating donuts and wait for the fireworks…..

76 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:21:33pm
“I think the video is in support of the Constitution — the support of the First Amendment, the right to express your thoughts and words freely without reprisal from any government,” Kessler told the Republican-Herald. “That’s why I used the vocabulary I did.

Although I’m a public official and need to think of the welfare of others besides my own I obviously don’t give a sh$t about anyone except myself.

77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:21:39pm

re: #73 Targetpractice

who’s watching the watchmen?

78 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:24:25pm

re: #72 Kragar

Machine-Gun-Toting Police Chief Says Viral Videos Were ‘In Support Of The Constitution’

yes, you have a first amendment right to speak your mind and let us know that you are an unprofessional moron that lacks the discretion as well as brainpower to carry out your duties competently

noted

79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:24:50pm

re: #72 Kragar

Machine-Gun-Toting Police Chief Says Viral Videos Were ‘In Support Of The Constitution’

I bet Mr. T would have an immeasurable amount of pity for that guy.

80 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:24:50pm

re: #69 Kragar

And this piece of shit is a police chief?

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I’d just like to know how someone like that can keep the job?

81 EPR-radar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:24:53pm

re: #59 Targetpractice

I tend to think of Bush Sr. as the last of the pragmatic Republicans. Norquist still likes to claim his pelt as his first big “victory” and that’s why I hate the slimy bastard more than anything else. Man made a judgment call that his predecessor made numerous times, raising taxes to address the deficit, and he ended up vilified for it while Ronnie goes down in history as “one of the greats.”

And ever since then, GOP fiscal policy has been very clear —- if they get into power, they spend like drunken sailors on their own priorities (e.g., tax cuts and wars), to line their own pockets and to deliberately increase the federal debt.

If the Democrats get into power, the GOP re-discovers its ‘concern’ for fiscal policy as a tool for obstructing anything and everything the Democrats try to do, and to use as leverage to gut long-standing programs such as social security and medicare.

82 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:25:01pm

re: #77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

who’s watching the watchmen?

anybody with access to the intertubes

83 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:25:14pm

re: #66 GeneJockey

JFK did roughly the same for his service. Was rejected from Army for health reasons, specifically back issues (he was a very frail man.)

But he used his family’s connections to pull the strings. He got into the Navy instead.

Instead using his family’s connections to keep him out of the war (ala GWB.), he used them to get into the war.

His older brother died in a pretty ballsy way. Love the Kennedy family.

84 Dave In Austin  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:26:52pm

re: #78 engineer cat

yes, you have a first amendment right to speak your mind and let us know that you are an unprofessional moron that lacks the discretion as well as brainpower to carry out your duties competently

noted

I guess he shot himself in the hand when he was on a bender in some bar. An argument broke out and when he pulled, he shot himself. This turd’s a backwoods Jethro in a town of 1000…

85 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:27:37pm

Apparently, there are rumors that Moffat is going to do something really screwy with the Doctor. I mean quizzical eyebrow weird.

86 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:28:25pm

I see that William and Kate have named the new addition George Alexander Louis. He is third in line to the throne, but as Jay Leno pointed out last night, it is a really slow moving line. Consider: Wyatt Earp and Rudyard Kipling were both still alive when the current monarch was born (in 1926, Earp checked out in ‘29, Kipling in ‘36).

87 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:28:40pm

re: #83 ProTARDISLiberal

JFK did roughly the same for his service. Was rejected from Army for health reasons, specifically back issues (he was a very frail man.)

But he used his family’s connections to pull the strings. He got into the Navy instead.

Instead using his family’s connections to keep him out of the war (ala GWB.), he used them to get into the war.

His older brother died in a pretty ballsy way. Love the Kennedy family.

He got into the Navy despite his daddy’s wishes. Remember, Joe Sr. was planning a family dynasty at the time. He tried like mad to keep his boys out of the service and, when that failed, tried to get them into roles that would keep them away from the fighting.

88 Ian G.  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:28:44pm

re: #66 GeneJockey

GHWB seems, and indeed always seemed, to have a sense of noblesse oblige that GWB lacked. Lied to get into the war when he was underage, instead of coasting to get out of one, for example, or his years as Ambassador and DCI.

Yeah, this might be the biggest difference between the Republicans of yore and today’s breed. Yesterday’s version had a sense of civic duty. Today’s version is about milking the country for all its worth, then dumping gasoline in and lighting the match.

Remember the “fuck you, pay me” scene in “Goodfellas”? Yeah, that’s how the right sees the country now.

89 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:31:23pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

He failed.

Joe Jr. died, but he died serving his country in a very risky operation. That is something I respect.

But, I can’t be in the military.

90 Targetpractice  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:33:19pm

re: #89 ProTARDISLiberal

He failed.

Joe Jr. died, but he died serving his country in a very risky operation. That is something I respect.

But, I can’t be in the military.

Yeah, Operation Aphrodite is up there on the list of military operations that were bugfuck insane on paper and even more so in actual practice.

91 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:33:30pm

Kessler’s website: chiefkessler.com

I think he’s also connected with the “sovereign citizen” movement as well. I’m doing more googling on that one.

92 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:36:11pm

re: #90 Targetpractice

The fact the Joe Jr. went for it says all you need to know about him.

93 Kragar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:36:58pm

re: #85 ProTARDISLiberal

Apparently, there are rumors that Moffat is going to do something really screwy with the Doctor. I mean quizzical eyebrow weird.

MATT BERRY FOR THE DOCTOR!

94 Carlos Dangler  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:37:41pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

He got into the Navy despite his daddy’s wishes. Remember, Joe Sr. was planning a family dynasty at the time. He tried like mad to keep his boys out of the service and, when that failed, tried to get them into roles that would keep them away from the fighting.

Joe Sr. was a POS compared to his sons.

95 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:42:17pm

re: #11 ProTARDISLiberal

I would call Nugent a “badass” anything. He’s a pants-shitting sniveling coward who put out some second-rate “music.”

There was a time when I sort of begrudgingly admired him as an idiosyncratic, rough-hewn individualist, but he has long since permutated into a major dickhead.

96 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:46:28pm

re: #81 EPR-radar

And ever since then, GOP fiscal policy has been very clear —- if they get into power, they spend like drunken sailors on their own priorities (e.g., tax cuts and wars), to line their own pockets and to deliberately increase the federal debt.

If the Democrats get into power, the GOP re-discovers its ‘concern’ for fiscal policy as a tool for obstructing anything and everything the Democrats try to do, and to use as leverage to gut long-standing programs such as social security and medicare.

“You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”
- Dick Cheney

97 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:50:51pm

September 2, 1944: Ensign George HW Bush rescued by USS Finback after Bush was shot down during a raid on Japanese held Chich-Jima. After the war, the Japanese commander at Chichi-Jima and four other officers were hanged for EATING American PoWs.

Youtube Video

It was a damned close call:

Nine crewmen survived after being shot down in the raids. One was picked up by the American submarine USS Finback. He was Lieutenant George H. W. Bush, who later became the forty-first President of the United States. The others were captured by the Japanese and were executed and partially eaten as POWs, a fact that remained hidden until much later. The names of Flyboys were Jimmy Dye from Mount Ephraim, New Jersey, Floyd Hall from Sedalia, Missouri, Marve Mershon from Los Angeles, California, Warren Earl Vaughn from Childress, Texas, Dick Woellhof from Clay Center, Kansas Grady York from Jacksonville, Florida, Glenn Frazier from Athol, Kansas, and the Unidentified Airman, who was revealed to Bradley as Warren Hindenlang of Foxboro, Massachusetts after the publication of the hardcover edition

98 EPR-radar  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:54:14pm

re: #96 Eventual Carrion

“You know, Paul, Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.”
- Dick Cheney

This x100. Even if we had a GOP that wasn’t batshit crazy on all the non-fiscal issues, their incredible debt hypocrisy combined with truly evil positions on the fiscal issues would remain as a total show stopper.

They really do want to tear this country apart just to have the fat cats squeeze another percentage point or two of the national wealth out of everyone else.

99 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:54:36pm

re: #69 Kragar

And this piece of shit is a police chief?

[Embedded content]

One-man police force, $16.00/hr.

100 Lidane  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:55:08pm

re: #79 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I bet Mr. T would have an immeasurable amount of pity for that guy.

101 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:55:27pm

re: #93 Kragar

The rumor is no Doctor.

Granted, there are a lot of rumors.

I actually really want Alexander Siddig now for the 13th Doctor. Someone a little older than Smith, and likely more suave.

And Rupert Grint’s name is still being thrown around. Think he would be okay.

102 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:58:17pm

re: #101 ProTARDISLiberal

Although, he is also known as Siddig El Tahir El Fadil El Siddig Abderrahman Mohammed Ahmed Abdel Karim El Mahdi

103 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 2:58:38pm

re: #101 ProTARDISLiberal

The rumor is no Doctor.

Granted, there are a lot of rumors.

I actually really want Alexander Siddig now for the 13th Doctor. Someone a little older than Smith, and likely more suave.

And Rupert Grint’s name is still being thrown around. Think he would be okay.

Would he be the first Ginger Doctor?

104 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 3:09:22pm

re: #103 GeneJockey

Grint would be the 1st Ginger Doctor.

Siddig would be the 1st Minority Doctor, or more specifically, the 1st Arab Doctor (Sudanese, and descendant of the Mahdi of Sudan.)

105 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 3:11:00pm

re: #104 ProTARDISLiberal


In case you missed this:

Dr Who Corn Maze in Yorkshire

I’ve been to Yorkshire several times, but this wasn’t there when I was.

106 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 3:12:24pm

re: #105 Backwoods_Sleuth

I hadn’t seen it. Thank you.

107 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 3:17:35pm

re: #52 Kragar

I’ve been to 3 Motorhead concerts, all by sheer chance. They swapped in for other opening acts for other bands I’ve gone to see.

No one is louder.

Allegedly…

The Gordons created good, old-fashioned inner torment that has rarely been communicated so effectively ever since. They were formed in Christchurch back in 1980 and released their first album way back in 1981 on the band’s own label.

“When they played at the same size venue as Motorhead they required four extra PA sound systems. Saying The Gordons were LOUD is like saying the Beatles were a POP GROUP - not so much detonating as devastating!” Everett True, Melody Maker

“The Gordons drop every hint that they know a pop song or two, but refuse to play one…This is a juggernaut of a record. When you put it on not only will your lawn die, your Motorhead albums will shrivel in their sleeves, leaving only a sticky black gel smelling faintly of vodka. (8/10)” David Swift, NME

“If Flying Nun ever release this on CD, you’ll probably need to get council permission to play it.” Rip It Up

Youtube Video
Youtube Video

108 Feline Overlord  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 3:51:52pm

re: #52 Kragar

I’ve been to 3 Motorhead concerts, all by sheer chance. They swapped in for other opening acts for other bands I’ve gone to see.

No one is louder.

Nonsense. Everybody knows the loudest band in the galaxy is Disaster Area.

Disaster Area was a plutonium rock band from the Gagrakacka Mind Zones and was generally regarded as not only the loudest rock band in the Galaxy, but also as being the loudest noise of any kind at all. Regular concert goers judged that the best sound balance was usually to be heard from within large concrete bunkers some thirty-seven miles away from the stage, whilst the musicians themselves played their instruments by remote control from within a heavily insulated spaceship which stayed in orbit around the planet - or more frequently around a completely different planet.

109 Mateo Scrounge  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 5:32:04pm

“But these go to 11.”

110 spiderbucket  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 8:21:45am

re: #8 Ian G.

todaystmj4.com
csmonitor.com

I don’t think it’s helpful to fight against racism by denying or glossing over actual events.

111 spiderbucket  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 8:22:25am

re: #41 b.d.

Joe Perry from Aerosmith.

112 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 8:36:08am

re: #110 spiderbucket

todaystmj4.com
csmonitor.com

I don’t think it’s helpful to fight against racism by denying or glossing over actual events.

The article doesn’t actually back up what you said. It says black teenagers who first fought among each other then attacked white fair-goers leaving the fair, and that one teen said he picked white people because they were easy targets. The idea that it was backed by racial hatred is supposition.

There’s a bit of an oddness that it doesn’t appear that anyone gave a shit about the black teens fighting each other.

113 spiderbucket  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 8:59:17am

re: #112 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

”..it doesn’t appear that anyone gave a shit about the black teens fighting each other.”

It seems like everyone BUT the black community is talking about it.

And you still will not acknowledge what is happening out there.

114 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 9:30:55am

re: #113 spiderbucket

The black community talks about violence, especially among teens, all the time. That you think they don’t shows that you’re amazingly ignorant about the black community.

What is happening out there is that crime rates have fallen amazingly:

Image: crimerate.gif

And yet people are obsessed with the idea that feral gangs of black teenagers are waiting around the corner to beat them up.

115 vegimo  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 11:22:49am

re: #8 Ian G.

Also,

Is there any reputable news source that will confirm this allegation, or is this like the “Miami race riots” that happened after the Zimmerman verdict?

todaystmj4.com

116 vegimo  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 11:25:14am

re: #18 Ian G.

On that note, are there actually any good wingnuts in pop music history, besides Johnny Ramone? I can think of great actors and directors and writers who held some nutty right-wing views, but they seem very rare among good pop musicians.

Alice Cooper

117 Wargala  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:36:09pm

Quick! Scream racism when someone points out bad things about someone who isn’t white!

I read the whole thing, and I think you’re all reaching for the racism card a little hard on this one. He may have said some shit before, but there isn’t any racism here.

Charles, you’re starting to turn into Al Sharpton here. Reel it in buddy.

118 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:41:48pm

re: #117 Wargala

It’s racist because white people should, much more, fear white people than black people in terms of who will attack them. There’s far more white-on-white crime than black-on-white crime.

He’s being racist by pretending there’s some huge surge in black-on-white violence. There isn’t, and crime overall is way, way down, which we should be celebrating.

Does this help?

119 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:47:48pm

Karma: -216

Wargala
(Logged in)
Registered since: Mar 18, 2013 at 10:57 am
No. of comments posted: 25
No. of Pages posted: 0

216/25=8.64 down dings per post.

Add to this, insulting your Host.

Working on a flounce are we?

120 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:53:14pm

re: #117 Wargala

He’s a dyed in the wool slimeball who, at the very least, should be forced to take guitar lessons before ever being allowed to posses one again. ///

Oh, and he is a racist for real, despite his defenders.

121 Wargala  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:02:32pm

re: #119 Bubblehead II

It’s not insulting to call bullshit on someone who’s trying to play the race card. Besides, I’m flattered you looked me up. This is actually a new account, as I forgot my credentials from way back when. I’ve been on here since Charles was a very anti-Islamic terror blogger. Now, he’s turned into a race baiter, and he doesn’t deserve to be on some pedestal because he runs the site. For him to be on a pedestal, he needs to earn that through his words and actions, and unfortunately, he hasn’t done that in years.

122 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:03:16pm

re: #121 Wargala

Do you understand that crime rates have been dropping for years, and that all crime, including black-on-white crime, is at much lower levels now than it was twenty years ago?

123 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:19:01pm

re: #121 Wargala

And the troll doubles down.

124 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:25:38pm

re: #121 Wargala

Someone really wants his martyr cookie today.

Chocolate chip? Or Oatmeal-Raisin?

125 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:29:17pm

re: #121 Wargala

Right…

And you’re just a “race realist”, aren’t you?

/getthefuckouttahere…

126 Wargala  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:29:29pm

re: #124 William Barnett-Lewis

Chocolate chip please. :)

127 Wargala  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:29:46pm

re: #122 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Source?

128 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:38:15pm

re: #127 Wargala

I already provided it above, but this is trivially easy to locate yourself.

Here’s something more in-depth, which also makes the point that violent crime by those you know is more likely than strangers.

bjs.gov

Is this really new information for you, that crime rates have been dropping so wildly? It’s odd, so few people know about this, especially those who are ‘concerned’ about black-on-white crime.

129 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:49:31pm

re: #128 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Boy, I hate the ‘demand citation, then disappear when the citation comes’ routine.

I can’t really blame them: reality is against them. There’s not a lot you can say to it. Best to just disappear and then act like you never heard the information.

130 Wargala  Fri, Jul 26, 2013 1:22:27pm

re: #129 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Sorry buddy. I have a job and a life outside of LGF. I know it might be difficult to believe for those on the left, since most of them tend to suck on the government tit so hard.

131 Wargala  Fri, Jul 26, 2013 1:24:40pm

re: #128 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Good citation! No, I don’t think it’s difficult to believe that violent crime has gone down. Must be all that new gun control laws we passed in a panic after Aurora, Newtown, and Portland.

132 engineer cat  Fri, Jul 26, 2013 2:01:13pm

re: #130 Wargala

Sorry buddy. I have a job and a life outside of LGF. I know it might be difficult to believe for those on the left, since most of them tend to suck on the government tit so hard.

i’ve been a software engineer for 28 years, and i am one of “those on the left”

unless and until you inform us just what it is that you might do for a living, i will just take it for granted that you “suck on the government tit” - since you are so quick to assume that about other people

133 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jul 26, 2013 2:02:57pm

re: #130 Wargala

hahahahahahahahahahah

No wonder the pants shitting convicted poacher is your heee-ro.

134 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Jul 26, 2013 2:05:48pm

re: #131 Wargala

Great. So given this citation, is it easier for you to understand how Ted Nugent’s bizarre rant about black people attacking white people is, in fact, racist?


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