Mother Jones Exposes “Groundswell,” (aka the Unison Wingnut Coordinating Committee)

Fighting a wingnut war on 30 simultaneous fronts
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At LGF we’ve noted many times the curious phenomenon of the Unison Wingnut Chorus — the almost instantaneous coordination of talking points throughout the right wing blogs and media. And of course, there’s nothing spontaneous about it; like good little authoritarians, wingnut bloggers and journalists are following directions from a group of far right loons (including Frank Gaffney, Allen West, and the Breitbrats) called “Groundswell,” dedicated to fighting a “30 Front War” against progressives.

The amusing part is that Karl Rove’s on their hit list too, because they hate him almost as much as they hate the 21st century.

One of the influential conservatives guiding the group is Virginia “Ginni” Thomas, a columnist for the Daily Caller and a tea party consultant and lobbyist. Other Groundswell members include John Bolton, the former UN ambassador; Frank Gaffney, the president of the Center for Security Policy; Ken Blackwell and Jerry Boykin of the Family Research Council; Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch; Gayle Trotter, a fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum; Catherine Engelbrecht and Anita MonCrief of True the Vote; Allen West, the former GOP House member; Sue Myrick, also a former House GOPer; Diana Banister of the influential Shirley and Banister PR firm; and Max Pappas, a top aide to Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas).

Among the conveners listed in an invitation to a May 8 meeting of Groundswell were Stephen Bannon, executive chairman of Breitbart News Network; Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service agent who resoundingly lost a Maryland Senate race last year (and is now running for a House seat); Leonard Leo, executive vice president of the Federalist Society; Sandy Rios, a Fox News contributor; Lori Roman, a former executive director of the American Legislative Exchange Council; and Austin Ruse, the head of the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute. Conservative journalists and commentators participating in Groundswell have included Breitbart News reporters Matthew Boyle and Mike Flynn, Washington Examiner executive editor Mark Tapscott, and National Review contributor Michael James Barton.

[…]

Groundswell, which meets at the same time as Norquist’s group, appears to be a more ideologically pure version of the Norquist confab, and its emergence—given the prominent role of Ginni Thomas and the participation of journalists—prompts several intriguing questions.

Critics have contended that Thomas’ work as a lobbyist opposing Obamacare posed a conflict of interest for her husband, who would rule on the constitutionality of the health care reform initiative. (Clarence Thomas joined the Supreme Court minority that favored striking down the law.) And Common Cause has maintained that Justice Thomas had a conflict of interest when he participated in the Citizens United case because his wife at the time was running a conservative nonprofit fighting the “tyranny” of President Barack Obama that would benefit from removing limits on such groups’ spending and fundraising. With her involvement in Groundswell—which zeroes in on contentious issues that come before the high court, including voting rights, abortion, and gay marriage—Ginni Thomas continues to be intricately associated with matters on which her husband may have to render a decision. Ginni Thomas did not respond to requests for comment.

The participation of journalists in coordinating messaging with ideological advocates and political partisans raises another set of issues. Conservatives expressed outraged when news broke in 2009 about Journolist, a private email list where several hundred progressive-minded reporters, commentators, and academics exchanged ideas and sometimes bickered. (I was on Journolist, mainly as a lurker.) The late Andrew Breitbart once offered $100,000 for the full Journolist archives and denounced it as “the epitome of progressive and liberal collusion that conservatives, Tea Partiers, moderates and many independents have long suspected and feared exists at the heart of contemporary American political journalism.” The Groundswell documents show conservative journalists, including several with Breitbart News, colluding on high-level messaging with leading partisans of the conservative movement.

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182 comments
1 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 12:59:19pm

And to think that Hillary Clinton was thoroughly mocked back in the day for referring to a “vast right wing conspiracy”.

2 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:00:59pm

Pathetic, just fucking pathetic.

3 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:01:49pm

It’s also a valuable reminder of how corrupt the most incompetent Justice in our nations history really is.

4 erik_t  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:01:58pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

And to think that Hillary Clinton was thoroughly mocked back in the day for referring to a “vast right wing conspiracy”.

Well, this is more of a vast ramshackle treehouse with a crudely-stenciled sign on the front that says SEKRIT CLUB NO GIЯLS OR BLAHS ALLOWED

5 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:03:56pm

So at the very same time that the wingnuts were screaming about what an awful thing ‘Journolist’ was, they were also saying among themselves, ‘What a great idea! Let’s start one of these things for our side!’

6 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:04:45pm

Grassroots organizations founded by billionaires.

Voter IDs to prevent voter fraud while they gerrymander the districts.

Pushing their religion onto everyone in the name of “freedom”.

Stripping away women’s rights in the name of health and safety.

These people are worth less than dog shit.

7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:05:05pm

It is really unseemly for a Supreme Court Justice’s wife to be involved with this.

8 geoffm33  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:06:35pm

I first read it as “30 Font War”.

So surely: Wingdings, Dingbat and Comic Sans are included.

9 b.d.  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:06:51pm

Teabagger News Network.

10 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:08:25pm

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It is really unseemly for a Supreme Court Justice’s wife to be involved with this.

It’s even more unseemly for a Supreme Court justice to be ruling on cases that directly affect the causes that the Justice’s wife is addressing - recusal is the proper course of action, but one not taken to date.

11 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:08:59pm

And of course, no reconsideration of the totally worthless policy prescriptions of movement conservatism is on the table. The only question is how to sell this toxic sludge to the public.

12 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:11:35pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

So at the very same time that the wingnuts were screaming about what an awful thing ‘Journolist’ was, they were also saying among themselves, ‘What a great idea! Let’s start one of these things for our side!’

Pretty much. It seems like every time the the Dems come up with something that works well, the Repubs first condemn and then try to copy

13 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:12:41pm

re: #10 lawhawk

It’s even more unseemly for a Supreme Court justice to be ruling on cases that directly affect the causes that the Justice’s wife is addressing - recusal is the proper course of action, but one not taken to date.

There is a deficiency in the laws relating to bribery and corruption of public officials.

It is illegal for Acme Inc. to pay Sen. Porker for specific legislative acts.

It is perfectly legal for Acme Inc. to heavily finance the campaign of Sen. Porker, based on information and belief that Sen. Porker is a pro-corporate tool that will naturally vote in favor of Acme Inc. on any issue that comes up.

14 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:13:29pm
15 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:13:46pm

re: #12 Bubblehead II

Pretty much. It seems like every time the the Dems come up with something that works well, the Repubs first condemn and then try to copy

Agreed, although I find it difficult to believe that this is the first instance of unified wingnut message discipline.

16 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:16:35pm

I swear, if this guy worked in the same office as me, I would be slapping someone right now.

He forgets to invite our group to a call, so we don’t have him on the schedule and everyone is tasked out. This is like the 5th time in the last month he has done this shit.

“Why didn’t you tell me I hadn’t invited you?”

BECAUSE WE DIDN’T KNOW YOU HAD ANYTHING PLANNED, DUMB ASS!

Of course he expects us to drop everything to support his fuck up, which we are disinclined to do for a 5th time. Our schedule is set, but we can support him monday.

He sends the reschedule meeting invite for tomorrow.

GAH!

17 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:17:46pm

re: #16 Kragar

Slap him anyway. He’s clearly an inconsiderate douche.

18 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:18:05pm

re: #14 Lidane

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Oh now he’s for compromise because he knows he can’t be seen as a nutcase. Not buying it Cucci.

19 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:20:47pm

re: #17 Lidane

Slap him anyway. He’s clearly an inconsiderate douche.

Worse, I’m going to play everything completely by the book

“Oops, this part is screwed up. Normally we let your team fix it on the fly, but in this case, meaning its your task, we’re failing you and you get to resubmit the whole package. Maybe you can get the process right next time. See ya in 2 weeks.”

20 Stanley Sea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:21:21pm

RWNJournolist

21 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:21:58pm

voter ID law becomes free and fair election initiative.

Fascinating to actual see transcripts of discussions about how to find Newspeak for the same prejudiced stuff.

It’s counterfeiting. Fake news, fake outrage, deceptive policy.

22 jaunte  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:22:27pm

Has anyone in history ever won a “30-front” war?

23 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:22:36pm

re: #15 EPR-radar

Agreed, although I find it difficult to believe that this is the first instance of unified wingnut message discipline.

It’s not. If I remember correctly, the Romney campaign attempted to duplicate the Obama campaigns network that tied all their offices togather so they all stayed on the same page. An attempt that failed miserably.

24 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:25:02pm

The 10 dumbest ideas to defeat Rove & progressives discussed by the conservative Groundswell organization

1. “At its weekly meetings, the group aims to strengthen the right’s messaging by crafting Twitter hashtags.”

2. Defeat the nomination of Labor Secretary nominee Thomas Perez by convincing people that he is “is extremely antagonistic toward whites.”

3. Convince Americans that John Kerry cannot be trusted as Secretary of State because “Kerry’s son in law is an Iranian American with extensive family still in Iran.”

4. “If we were all gay illegal aliens, the party likes [sic] us.”

5. Re-brand efforts to restrict access to the polls through voter ID programs and strict scrutiny of minority voters as a “Voter Rights” campaign.

6. Win the hearts and minds of “minorities” by re-positioning themselves as “Fredrick Douglas[sic] Republican[s],” instead of tea partiers or conservatives.

7. Refer to immigration reform as “OBAMAGRATION”

8. Hype the “Fast and the Furious” controversy and the Benghazi embassy attack some more.

9. “A 15 sec internet [YouTube ad] featuring ethnically diverse children on a merry-go-round [soft music]… Nuclear explosion.”

10. “Write articles on [sic] 4th grade level!”

25 jaunte  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:27:36pm
5. Re-brand efforts to restrict access to the polls through voter ID programs and strict scrutiny of minority voters as a “Voter Rights” campaign.

INCANDESCENT BRILLIANCE

26 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:27:56pm

re: #21 The Ghost of a Flea

voter ID law becomes free and fair election initiative.

Fascinating to actual see transcripts of discussions about how to find Newspeak for the same prejudiced stuff.

It’s counterfeiting. Fake news, fake outrage, deceptive policy.

Inez is derping about how it’s so easy to get an ID to vote because “everywhere she’s ever been” they’re open on Saturdays at the DMV.

WTF.

27 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:28:06pm

re: #6 Kragar

Grassroots organizations founded by billionaires.

Voter IDs to prevent voter fraud while they gerrymander the districts.

Pushing their religion onto everyone in the name of “freedom”.

Stripping away women’s rights in the name of health and safety.

These people are worth less than dog shit.

Yeah. If you spread these people on a field nothing would grow there ever again.

28 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:29:13pm

re: #24 Kragar


“10. “Write articles on [sic] 4th grade level!”

Given who their base is, this one might have some merit.

*pimf*

29 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:29:38pm

re: #19 Kragar

Worse, I’m going to play everything completely by the book

“Oops, this part is screwed up. Normally we let your team fix it on the fly, but in this case, meaning its your task, we’re failing you and you get to resubmit the whole package. Maybe you can get the process right next time. See ya in 2 weeks.”

It’s amazing how procedure can be used to piss people off. Haha.

30 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:30:17pm

Focused on the important things:

31 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:31:19pm

If they suddenly dropped the whole Groundswell program, the quality of ideas seen on Twitter would improve about 95%.

32 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:31:54pm

re: #26 Lidane

Inez is derping about how it’s so easy to get an ID to vote because “everywhere she’s ever been” they’re open on Saturdays at the DMV.

WTF.

Would not even blink in surprise if we found out that a bunch of Twitter derpers are paid to create RW narratives.

…and that’s separate from my suspicions that the one’s that just post memes and images are bots used to seed ideas to the #tcot crowd.

33 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:33:25pm

re: #26 Lidane

Inez is derping about how it’s so easy to get an ID to vote because “everywhere she’s ever been” they’re open on Saturdays at the DMV.

WTF.

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34 jaunte  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:33:48pm

“What Groundswell is not is a room of note takers. The goal of Groundswell is to sync messages and develop action from reports and information exchanged. Going forward there should be an action item accompanying each report.”

35 Targetpractice  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:33:59pm

re: #23 Bubblehead II

It’s not. If I remember correctly, the Romney campaign attempted to duplicate the Obama campaigns network that tied all their offices togather so they all stayed on the same page. An attempt that failed miserably.

As I remember it, they decided at the 11th hour to try to build something similar, hired some conmen who basically got the Romney campaign to pay them to be fed bullshit, and then found out that no two offices could agree on what time it was, let alone what his position was at any given moment on one subject or another.

36 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:35:47pm

My brain hurts after reading this:


ZOMG PEOPLE WILL STEAL SO LET’S KEEP USING PLASTIC BAGS is a stupid, weaksauce argument.

37 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:36:50pm

re: #36 Lidane

My brain hurts after reading this:

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ZOMG PEOPLE WILL STEAL SO LET’S KEEP USING PLASTIC BAGS is a stupid, weaksauce argument.

Seems like a correlation does not equal causation thing.

38 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:37:09pm

re: #22 jaunte

Has anyone in history ever won a “30-front” war?

Multi-front wars have been won, but only if the nation or empire has the logistical capability to support it. In my opinion, America in WWII and Britain during the Napoleonic wars are good examples of this.

More often it’s like Nazi Germany. A two front war is one front too many. Especially when they crippled themselves with insistence on ideological purity, racism, political infighting and the sidelining of the people who know what they’re doing.

I suspect this will be the fate of ‘Groundswell’.

39 RedSquareBear  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:37:43pm

re: #24 Kragar

9. “A 15 sec internet [YouTube ad] featuring ethnically diverse children on a merry-go-round [soft music]… Nuclear explosion.”

Class act, right here.

40 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:37:49pm

Its amazing that people at our corporate office get paid so much to write memos and stuff yet still make inexcusable errors.

A recent one started off with: “As most of you know, we are still in the process of hiring a new sight manager…”

41 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:38:20pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

As I remember it, they decided at the 11th hour to try to build something similar, hired some conmen who basically got the Romney campaign to pay them to be fed bullshit, and then found out that no two offices could agree on what time it was, let alone what his position was at any given moment on one subject or another.

Either way, the attempt failed most spectacularly.

42 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:38:20pm

re: #28 Bubblehead II

“10. “Write articles on [sic] 4th grade level!”

Given who their base is, this one might have some merit.

*pimf*

Ah, aiming for the intellectual wingnuts.

43 Interesting Times  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:38:35pm

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

44 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:39:18pm

ROFL. I just got called a Communist on Twitter for pointing out that cutting DMV hours makes getting an ID harder and makes registering to vote harder.

I told the derptard to move his outrage meter up a few decades.

45 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:40:07pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

Now I want to know one thing.

Warg Ala what exactly? How does one prepare warg?

46 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:41:32pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

$10 says Wargala IS Nugent.

47 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:41:37pm

re: #45 Kragar

Grilled, with a little lemon and thyme.

48 efuseakay  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:42:37pm

re: #26 Lidane

Inez is derping about how it’s so easy to get an ID to vote because “everywhere she’s ever been” they’re open on Saturdays at the DMV.

WTF.

Some people really are that ignorant of others’ situations/circumstances.

49 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:42:56pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

I remember him. I thought he had suffered the fate of all trolls here.

And I was wondering what I would have for dinner tonight.

50 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:43:49pm

re: #48 efuseakay

Some people really are that ignorant of others’ situations/circumstances.

They like it that way. They never have to think if they ever encounter something outside their unreality bubble.

51 geoffm33  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:45:01pm
52 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:45:04pm

re: #47 lawhawk

Grilled, with a little lemon and thyme.

Maitre d’Hotel then? I would have thought that was only for poultry.

I would say a la Plancha or perhaps a la Broche.

53 efuseakay  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:45:58pm

re: #50 Romantic Heretic

They like it that way. They never have to think if they ever encounter something outside their unreality bubble.

It’s like the whole world past the tip of their nose doesn’t exist. It’s some Liberal fairy tale.

54 Balfour Rage  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:47:05pm

OHZ MY GODZ, PRUDENCE!

55 geoffm33  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:47:10pm
56 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:50:05pm

re: #35 Targetpractice

As I remember it, they decided at the 11th hour to try to build something similar, hired some conmen who basically got the Romney campaign to pay them to be fed bullshit, and then found out that no two offices could agree on what time it was, let alone what his position was at any given moment on one subject or another.

In all fairness, it would be impossible to tell what any of Romney’s positions actually were, other than the banal “I want to be President”.

‘Multiple choice Mitt’ was in overdrive in 2012.

57 kirkspencer  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:50:34pm

re: #45 Kragar

Now I want to know one thing.

Warg Ala what exactly? How does one prepare warg?

Warg ala Gimli is very simple and robust. Warg ala Legolas is just too much about the presentation, though at least it’s edible; something that cannot be said of Warg ala Mordor.

58 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:51:27pm

re: #48 efuseakay

To be fair to Princess Inez, some DMV locations (here in GA at least) are open on Sat from 8 am til Noon. Only the ones that issue licences and IDs though. That’s kind of new, when I first moved here no DMV location was open on the weekends. But still, that’s only a 4 hour window, if there’s a crowd, you’re out of luck.

59 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:52:40pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

Averaging 8.64 down dings per posts. Seen better attempts, but he is working at it.

60 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:53:32pm

Jerry Day is coming. Are you ready?

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61 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:53:57pm

re: #24 Kragar

The 10 dumbest ideas to defeat Rove & progressives discussed by the conservative Groundswell organization

Yeah calling yourselves Frederick Douglass Republicans “to win over minority voters” and at the same time trying to claim the Secretary of State doesn’t represent U.S interests because he has an Iranian-American son-in-law will go over so well. And just claiming you’re like Frederick Douglass doesn’t make you like Frederick Douglass anymore than twitter images that claim MLK was a Republican so ergo you can’t accuse the Republican right of being prejudiced.

62 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:54:33pm

re: #59 Bubblehead II

Averaging 8.64 down dings per posts. Seen better attempts, but he is working at it.

Anyone can post a barn burner, rack up a -15 or -16 and get banned right away. The good ones know slow and steady rate of -7 wins the race.

Wait a sec…

63 klys  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:54:53pm

re: #58 A Mom Anon

At least in CA, you can schedule an appointment so you have some hope of getting out within 30 minutes of when you were supposed to be seen. And AAA offices are also capable of handling some things.

But Inez seems to be lacking in any kind of situational awareness at all. Everything has been about HER experience and how that must be universal to EVERYONE because that’s what it was like for HER.

64 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:55:08pm

re: #46 Eclectic Cyborg

Nah, not incoherent enough. Remember “cat scratch fever” is Nugent’s greatest intellectual achievement…

65 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:55:48pm

re: #64 William Barnett-Lewis

Nah, not incoherent enough. Remember “cat scratch fever” is Nugent’s greatest intellectual achievement…

You completely disregard the subtle nuances of Wango Tango.

66 GeneJockey  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:55:58pm

re: #57 kirkspencer

Warg ala Gimli is very simple and robust. Warg ala Legolas is just too much about the presentation, though at least it’s edible; something that cannot be said of Warg ala Mordor.

You know nothing, John Snow.

67 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 1:59:09pm

AFA Kentucky Affiliate Claims School Prayer Ban Led to AIDS Epidemic

The American Family Association of Kentucky sent out an appeal to its members today asking them to sign a petition calling for a law legalizing school prayer in the state, similar to “inspirational message” bills recently passed in Florida and Mississippi.

The petition asserts that the 1962 Supreme Court decision prohibiting government-led prayer in schools was pushed by “anti-God forces” and led to a myriad of social ills, including a rise in teen pregnancy and violent crime, and “the AIDS epidemic and the drug culture.”

Legalizing school prayer is “one of the best ways of returning God’s protection to America,” the petition adds.

Or maybe you could, oh I don’t know, maybe actually let schools teach kids about sex ed and how to prevent disease.

68 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:00:24pm

re: #67 Kragar

AFA Kentucky Affiliate Claims School Prayer Ban Led to AIDS Epidemic

Or maybe you could, oh I don’t know, maybe actually let schools teach kids about sex ed and how to prevent disease.

The fuck. And idiots some of the biggest opponents of forced school prayer are religious people themselves. They just don’t think like you that forcing prayer on people in school is a good idea. Besides there is prayer in school. Didn’t anyone in the AFA ever have an algebra pop quiz on a Friday afternoon?

69 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:00:36pm

re: #43 Interesting Times

Oh hai we haz a Ted Nugent defender!

“wargala” might as well be named argle-bargle.

70 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:00:57pm

re: #61 HappyWarrior

Yeah calling yourselves Frederick Douglass Republicans “to win over minority voters” and at the same time trying to claim the Secretary of State doesn’t represent U.S interests because he has an Iranian-American son-in-law will go over so well. And just claiming you’re like Frederick Douglass doesn’t make you like Frederick Douglass anymore than twitter images that claim MLK was a Republican so ergo you can’t accuse the Republican right of being prejudiced.

The only consolation I take from this insane shit is that this is the level of discourse they consider “strategic.”

71 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:01:27pm

re: #64 William Barnett-Lewis

Nah, not incoherent enough. Remember “cat scratch fever” is Nugent’s greatest intellectual achievement…

re: #65 Kragar

You completely disregard the subtle nuances of Wango Tango.

Don’t forget the totally romantic ballads “Jailbait” and “Stranglehold”…

72 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:02:27pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

The only consolation I take from this insane shit is that this is the level of discourse they consider “strategic.”

Yeah, it does show why they’re fucking themselves long term I suppose.

73 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:04:30pm

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74 b.d.  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:05:57pm

re: #36 Lidane

My brain hurts after reading this:

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ZOMG PEOPLE WILL STEAL SO LET’S KEEP USING PLASTIC BAGS is a stupid, weaksauce argument.

I thought that article may have been one of the dumbest things I have ever read….then I started reading the comments.

75 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:06:26pm

Give Senator Cornyn some love.

76 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:06:37pm

re: #72 HappyWarrior

Yeah, it does show why they’re fucking themselves long term I suppose.

Hence part of their goal structure being as much ratfucking and disenfranchisement as possible.

That’s the part that I’m not consoled about: we’ve got a party that’s totally into bilking the people they represent. Not just normal corruption, but the counterfeiting of democracy.

77 b.d.  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:07:09pm

re: #55 geoffm33

Luna Kitty

78 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:08:16pm

re: #70 The Ghost of a Flea

The only consolation I take from this insane shit is that this is the level of discourse they consider “strategic.”

The elevation of deliberate ignorance and stupidity to a virtue that movement conservatism has been pursuing for decades is eventually going to impair their ability to deal with the reality of elections.

Romney 2012 was a good example. May there be many more GOP failures of that kind.

79 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:08:38pm

re: #24 Kragar

The 10 dumbest ideas to defeat Rove & progressives discussed by the conservative Groundswell organization

They’re all fucking high (or need to be); there’s no other logical explanation for this.

80 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:10:57pm

If collective school prayer is permitted again, someone so inclined could just as easily offer this as a prayer to Jesus:

May the great and terrible Lord Cthulhu hear my humble entreaty. I beseech thee, oh dread Ancient One, to bless us with thy divine presence and inspiration before and after, but not during, the lunch hour.

81 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:11:03pm

re: #79 AlexRogan

They all fucking high (or should be); there’s no other logical explanation for this.

Epistemic closure in action —- all sources of information other than fellow right wing nut jobs don’t count, so there is no possibility of a reality check.

82 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:11:11pm

re: #75 darthstar

Give Senator Cornyn some love.

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Fucking with the paranoid Erickson fans:

83 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:11:27pm

re: #45 Kragar

Now I want to know one thing.

Warg Ala what exactly? How does one prepare warg?

slowly marinated, and then roasted all day on the LGF grill…

84 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:11:46pm

re: #78 EPR-radar

The elevation of deliberate ignorance and stupidity to a virtue that movement conservatism has been pursuing for decades is eventually going to impair their ability to deal with the reality of elections.

Romney 2012 was a good example. May there be many more GOP failures of that kind.

Unfortunately the GOP has been having way more luck at the state level than at the Federal. There may be far fewer failures than you’re hoping for.

85 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:11:56pm

re: #80 Shiplord Kirel

If collective school prayer is permitted again, someone so inclined could just as easily offer this as a prayer to Jesus:

“BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD! SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!”

86 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:12:11pm
87 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:13:53pm

Looking over the last 3 posts, glad I was engaged with a 3 yr old who has discovered “Peep and The Big Wide World”: peepandthebigwideworld.com

Bonus: Taj Mahal sings the theme song.

My little g-grandson has been watching this on Netflix, and took over the computer when I found the theme on the program site, and proceeded to engage himself in the self-paced little quizzes. Knocked off my computer by a 3 yr old. It was marvelous. : )

88 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:14:08pm

re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg

Unfortunately the GOP has been having way more luck at the state level than at the Federal. There may be far fewer failures than you’re hoping for.

Too true. They could still win it all at the Federal level in 2016, and there are many red states and swing states that will be under GOP misrule for many years to come.

I’d like to see US movement conservatism join Soviet-style communism on the ash heap of totally discredited ideologies.

89 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:17:06pm

Wargala has doubled down on stupidity

“I’ve been on here since Charles was a very anti-Islamic terror blogger. Now, he’s turned into a race baiter, and he doesn’t deserve to be on some pedestal because he runs the site. For him to be on a pedestal, he needs to earn that through his words and actions, and unfortunately, he hasn’t done that in years.”

91 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:17:54pm

re: #63 klys

Yeah, that seems to be a large part of the Republican mindset these days. It’s a symptom of a lack of empathy. If you cannot relate to any life but your own, you then don’t have to go out of your way to understand anyone else. Inez is but one of many examples of such backwardass thinking. I don’t understand how you can walk through this world and not ever see anything but your Princess world, I guess I’m really glad I don’t get it.

92 kirkspencer  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:18:40pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

Wargala has doubled down on stupidity

“I’ve been on here since Charles was a very anti-Islamic terror blogger. Now, he’s turned into a race baiter, and he doesn’t deserve to be on some pedestal because he runs the site. For him to be on a pedestal, he needs to earn that through his words and actions, and unfortunately, he hasn’t done that in years.”

Ah, so he’s admitting being a sock.

93 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:19:02pm

Groundswell

one of those ironic names that signifies the opposite of what the group actually represents

94 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:21:21pm

re: #92 kirkspencer

Ah, so he’s admitting being a sock.

More or less. Claimed that he forgot his user name and password when he “rejoined” the blog.

95 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:22:53pm

Groundswell — the group email list and weekly meeting sponsored by “a balance of social conservatives, national security conservatives, and constitutional conservatives”

please join my group ‘Mainstream America’, which aims to bring together a middle of the road “balance” of hippies, socialists, cynics, anarchists, and LISP programmers

96 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:23:06pm

re: #90 b.d.

Going to a $1 Coin would save money, and put us in line with the rest of the world.

97 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:25:20pm

re: #90 b.d.

Wait, is that real?

98 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:25:32pm

7. Refer to immigration reform as “OBAMAGRATION”

8. Hype the “Fast and the Furious” controversy and the Benghazi embassy attack some more.

9. “A 15 sec internet [YouTube ad] featuring ethnically diverse children on a merry-go-round [soft music]… Nuclear explosion.”

10. “Write articles on [sic] 4th grade level!”

11. send out for peanut butter and jelly sammiches

99 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:27:44pm

re: #98 engineer cat

ahh, I see with #10 they think the people they’re trying to reach are idiots. Good call.

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:27:52pm

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Going to a $1 Coin would save money, and put us in line with the rest of the world.

Frankly, I’d like to go back to coin for everything $20 & under. Nice light & colorful plastic coins that would really PO the libertarian gold bugs.

101 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:30:26pm

OMG. You just know Rick Snyder and his minions are behind this.

Just in case you thought the Detroit Institute of Arts’s priceless collection was safe, it’s not. Appraisers have arrived. eclectablog.com

102 twisty  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:31:16pm

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Going to a $1 Coin would save money, and put us in line with the rest of the world.

Does it cost less to mint a coin than to print a bill? I honestly have no idea.

103 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:33:28pm

re: #102 twisty

Does it cost less to mint a coin than to print a bill? I honestly have no idea.

no, but the coins last so much longer that you save money in the long run

104 palomino  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:33:39pm

re: #54 Kid A

OHZ MY GODZ, PRUDENCE!

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Because intelligent people know that one photo of a black guy with white friends proves he never experienced racism.

Makes as much sense as saying one photo of Trayvon Martin alive proves he’s not really dead now.

105 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:34:01pm

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Going to a $1 Coin would save money, and put us in line with the rest of the world.

and create more work for tailors repairing pants pockets

106 Dr Lizardo, Drooling Jingoist  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:34:38pm

re: #102 twisty

Does it cost less to mint a coin than to print a bill? I honestly have no idea.

Coins last longer, that’s for certain. Here in the Czech Republic, the smallest banknote is 100 Kč - about like a $5 bill. Goes all the way up to 5000 Kč ($250 USD).

107 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:38:03pm

re: #101 Justanotherhuman

OMG. You just know Rick Snyder and his minions are behind this.

Just in case you thought the Detroit Institute of Arts’s priceless collection was safe, it’s not. Appraisers have arrived. eclectablog.com

Bankruptcy or not, Orr and Snyder’s gonna sell off everything of Detroit’s that’s not already in hock or nailed down.

108 Slap  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:38:36pm

re: #71 AlexRogan

Don’t forget the totally romantic ballads “Jailbait” and “Stranglehold”…

And let’s not forget the gossamer delicacy of “Whang Bang Sweet Poontang”….

109 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:39:31pm

re: #102 twisty

Does it cost less to mint a coin than to print a bill? I honestly have no idea.

Not sure on the original cost of production of either, but do know coin has a way longer life expectancy than paper currency and is there fore less expensive to produce in the long run. IMHO, the only reason the dollar coin didn’t gain acceptance was the SBA coin debacle that was so easily mistaken for a Quarter. I am now seeing vending machines that sell items from $1.00 and up using the new dollar coins for change.

110 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:40:00pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

Wargala has doubled down on stupidity

he’s turned into a race baiter

we need a new wingnut-to-english dictionary:

“i’m not a racist” -> i am about to make an unbelievably racist statement

“plays the race card” -> ventures to point out that somebody just made an unbelievably racist statement

“is a race baiter” -> habitually expresses dismay at the Groundswell [sic] of racism that is getting bolder and bolder every day in this country

111 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:40:01pm

TV station fires three producers over fake Asiana pilot names

112 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:45:49pm

re: #109 Bubblehead II

Not sure on the original cost of production of either, but do know coin has a way longer life expectancy than paper currency and is there fore less expensive to produce in the long run. IMHO, the only reason the dollar coin didn’t gain acceptance was the SBA coin debacle that was so easily mistaken for a Quarter. I am now seeing vending machines that sell items from $1.00 and up using the new dollar coins for change.

they should just mint cool looking coins like the loonies and toonies

113 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:45:53pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

TV station fires three producers over fake Asiana pilot names

I’m surprised it took this long, but not before KTVU tried to invoke the DMCA to have all clips of that news segment (ultimately unsuccessfully) pulled from YouTube.

The Internets, it is forever…

114 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:47:07pm

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Going to a $1 Coin would save money, and put us in line with the rest of the world.

That’s just looney.

115 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:48:22pm

re: #111 Eclectic Cyborg

TV station fires three producers over fake Asiana pilot names

In an exclusive to Consumerist, a KTVU intern has confirmed the names of the producers are:
-Howe Gullible
-E. Zleefooled
-Flippin’ Moron

Heh

116 twisty  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:49:09pm

re: #103 engineer cat
re: #106 Dr Lizardo
re: #109 Bubblehead II

Ah, it’s less expensive in the long term, makes sense! Thanks guys.

117 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:49:22pm

actually, i think we should go back to the monetary standard of spanish reales and austrian thalers

118 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:53:17pm

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

119 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:56:47pm

Want even more craziness? This was the guy Pres Obama beat for the State Senate in IL.

Keyes: ‘Bucket Brigade’ Will Impeach and Remove Obama - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

He hasn’t gotten over his defeat yet.

120 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:57:19pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

Which is ironic, because one of the reasons the men of the time wanted to be able to form militias was because of fear of slave rebellions.

121 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:58:12pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

Which is ironic, because one of the reasons the men of the time wanted to be able to form militias was because of fear of slave rebellions.

And now he’s saying that he only brought it up to see if I was paying attention instead of just replying blindly.

WTF derptard.

122 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:58:20pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

Did they use that Fake Quote of George Washington or the Fake Quote of Thomas Jefferson?

123 Gus  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:58:33pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

Still derping.

124 Lidane  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:59:08pm

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

Did they use that Fake Quote of George Washington or the Fake Quote of Thomas Jefferson?

Neither. He just brought it up out of the blue. He claims it’s to see if I was paying attention or just blindly typing without reading.

WTF.

125 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:59:25pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

because mind reading

126 Political Atheist  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 2:59:59pm

re: #117 engineer cat

Funny how we have some of the worst paper money and yet can mint the most beautiful coin ever… IMHO

Image: IMG_7148-001.JPG

127 efuseakay  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:00:15pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

Just remind them that the 2nd Amendment also applies to Liberals. :)

128 engineer cat  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:02:53pm

re: #126 Political Atheist

Funny how we have some of the worst paper money and yet can mint the most beautiful coin ever… IMHO

Image: IMG_7148-001.JPG

i have a 1925 ‘peace dollar’ i like to carry around in my pocket - it’s one of the most beautiful coins ever made

no reason why we couldn’t re-use that design

129 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:03:12pm

Victoria Jackson Goes Off The Rails On O’Reilly: First Thing Communists Do Is They Kill The Christians

Jackson told O’Reilly she wasn’t political when she worked on SNL, but her Christian faith got some mean comments “‘cause they kind of hated God.” She said she was educated by a conservative group a few years ago about how “socialist” Hillary Clinton was being challenged by “communist” Barack Obama in the presidential election. She said the communists would never take over the U.S. by force thanks to the Second Amendment, but they’re already corrupting the country through a “sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll morality.”

When O’Reilly asked her about her conservative turn not helping her career, Jackson said, “No one’s gonna have a career when we’re all communists.” She called tea partiers the “greatest people I’ve ever met,” and expressed some concern about what’s going to happen to her soon.

“I’m gonna die soon, because the first thing they do is they kill the Christians or persecute them or jail them.”

130 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:03:14pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

Which is ironic, because one of the reasons the men of the time wanted to be able to form militias was because of fear of slave rebellions.

That was somewhat more true in the south, but it was explicitly about the right to overthrow in the New England states. It wasn’t until the Militia was called out & lead into the field by President Washington to put down the Whiskey Rebellion that the limits on that were sorted out at all. To this day it remains an article of faith of many on the right.

In the end, there was considerable belief that they should be able to end the social contract of the US as “easily” as the one with Britain.

131 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:04:58pm

Projection Derp

133 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:07:23pm

re: #128 engineer cat

i have a 1925 ‘peace dollar’ i like to carry around in my pocket - it’s one of the most beautiful coins ever made

no reason why we couldn’t re-use that design

I carry an 1880 Morgan the same way.

134 Tigger2005  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:08:34pm

The latest talking point related to the George Zimmerman trial is “What about all that black-on-black violence in Chicago? Does nobody care about that? Nobody’s talking about it or doing anything about it!”

Classic concern-trolling. Classic deflection tactic. Completely false, and on any Zimmerman/Martin thread, you’ll see it parroted by numerous wingnuts.

135 Kragar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:08:49pm

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

Projection Derp

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So where is the part where someone says they want kids to get shot?

136 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:09:17pm

re: #132 Gus

#TrayvonBenghaziNotmypresident2ndAmendmentCubaCheGuevaraHuntingVenezuelaCommunismLiberalFastandFurious!

You still have 37 characters left.

137 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:09:26pm

re: #134 Tigger2005

It displays utter ignorance of black America, because it is rare to hear a speech in the black community, or a sermon, that doesn’t address the problem of black-on-black crime.

138 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:10:00pm

re: #130 William Barnett-Lewis

That was somewhat more true in the south, but it was explicitly about the right to overthrow in the New England states. It wasn’t until the Militia was called out & lead into the field by President Washington to put down the Whiskey Rebellion that the limits on that were sorted out at all. To this day it remains an article of faith of many on the right.

In the end, there was considerable belief that they should be able to end the social contract of the US as “easily” as the one with Britain.

Damn..You always nail it William.. Didn’t this also get somewhat covered in the Federalist papers?

139 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:10:58pm

re: #126 Political Atheist

Funny how we have some of the worst paper money and yet can mint the most beautiful coin ever… IMHO

Image: IMG_7148-001.JPG

Sorry but St G’s Double Eagle still is the absolute best…

Image: 1908_no_motto_Saint-Gaudens_double_eagle_obverse.jpg

140 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:12:06pm

re: #134 Tigger2005

The latest talking point related to the George Zimmerman trial is “What about all that black-on-black violence in Chicago? Does nobody care about that? Nobody’s talking about it or doing anything about it!”

Classic concern-trolling. Classic deflection tactic. Completely false, and on any Zimmerman/Martin thread, you’ll see it parroted by numerous wingnuts.

Remember: black-on-black crime says something meaningful about black people. That white-on-white crime occurs at the same rates—that is, most crimes are bounded by geography, and thus the vast majority are same-race because of demography—says nothing about the state of white people.

Because.

Just…because.

141 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:12:19pm

re: #138 HoosierHoops

Damn..You always nail it William.. Didn’t this also get somewhat covered in the Federalist papers?

There is a discussion in a couple of them. Also in the Anti-Federalist papers as well IIRC. I haven’t got my notes handy.

142 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:13:04pm

re: #139 William Barnett-Lewis

The Wheat Penny is actually my favorite, especially the wheat bit.
Image: image0011-560x280.jpg

143 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:13:10pm

re: #89 Bubblehead II

Wargala has doubled down on stupidity

“I’ve been on here since Charles was a very anti-Islamic terror blogger. Now, he’s turned into a race baiter, and he doesn’t deserve to be on some pedestal because he runs the site. For him to be on a pedestal, he needs to earn that through his words and actions, and unfortunately, he hasn’t done that in years.”

“Wargala”…is that what “constitutional conservative teabaggers” eat for salad instead of arugula?

144 efuseakay  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:13:58pm

re: #130 William Barnett-Lewis

That was somewhat more true in the south, but it was explicitly about the right to overthrow in the New England states. It wasn’t until the Militia was called out & lead into the field by President Washington to put down the Whiskey Rebellion that the limits on that were sorted out at all. To this day it remains an article of faith of many on the right.

In the end, there was considerable belief that they should be able to end the social contract of the US as “easily” as the one with Britain.

.22LR = tank killa!

145 Carlos Dangler  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:14:51pm

re: #129 Kragar

Victoria Jackson Goes Off The Rails On O’Reilly: First Thing Communists Do Is They Kill The Christians

And she just moved here to the Nashville area in the past few months, because her daughter goes to Trevecca (IIRC).

Oh joy…

146 OhNoZombies!  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:16:40pm

re: #134 Tigger2005

The latest talking point related to the George Zimmerman trial is “What about all that black-on-black violence in Chicago? Does nobody care about that? Nobody’s talking about it or doing anything about it!”

Classic concern-trolling. Classic deflection tactic. Completely false, and on any Zimmerman/Martin thread, you’ll see it parroted by numerous wingnuts.

SMH.
That’s all I can do.
It’s simply that stupid.

147 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:18:06pm

re: #118 Lidane

WOW. These people are unhinged. I just had a RWNJ derptard tell me out of nowhere on Twitter that the Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunting or target practice and everything to do with having the means to overthrow a tyrant.

WTF.

Well, technically, he is correct. The 2nd was included to insure that there was a means to rapidly raise an armed force (Well armed Militia) to protect the State. It in fact has nothing to do with hunting, fishing (in a barrell) or target shooting. As for overthrowing a tyrant. Not so much so.

148 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:19:30pm

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

Projection Derp

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Secular fundamentalists huh Bryan? Good one.

149 HoosierHoops  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:24:37pm

Time to head out for Dinner..Let me leave you with this..
I once ran a marathon cause it was on the way..

150 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:25:02pm

Okay, Charles…I followed that Emilio fellow, and jesus, but he tweets a shitload of pics.

151 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:29:33pm

re: #129 Kragar

Get some therapy, please, and spare us your paranoia, V.

152 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:31:14pm

re: #142 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The Wheat Penny is actually my favorite, especially the wheat bit.
Image: image0011-560x280.jpg

A customer gave me one yesterday from the year of my birth.

153 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:33:02pm

re: #142 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The Wheat Penny is actually my favorite, especially the wheat bit.
Image: image0011-560x280.jpg

Especially that particular wheat back. 1909-s VDB is a key date, and would be very pricey indeed in that condition.

154 darthstar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:35:48pm

I guess Glenn’s looking for some kind of scandal…somewhere…again…

155 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:37:28pm

Sooo…Detroit should just go bankrupt but:

Detroit taxpayers to fund 60 percent of Red Wings arena, plan shows

BUT…JRBZZZ!!11!!

156 BeenHereAwhile  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:37:52pm

re: #145 AlexRogan

re: #129 Kragar

“Victoria Jackson Goes Off The Rails On O’Reilly: First Thing Communists Do Is They Kill The Christians”

And she just moved here to the Nashville area in the past few months, because her daughter goes to Trevecca (IIRC).

Oh joy…

There’s no shortage of churches for her to attend here in Nashville.

157 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:42:57pm

Just checking something with a random video…

Youtube Video

158 A Mom Anon  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:44:26pm

Virginia Johnson of Masters and Johnson fame has died at age 88.

159 freetoken  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:44:31pm

re: #157 Charles Johnson

Where are the monkey’s riding pigs backwards?

160 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:45:41pm

re: #154 darthstar

I guess Glenn’s looking for some kind of scandal…somewhere…again…

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“Creepy having armed MPs patrolling behind reporters at Manning trial.”

Do you get the sense that Greenwald might not be familiar with the intricate inner workings of things?

161 freetoken  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:48:19pm

re: #139 William Barnett-Lewis

Sorry but St G’s Double Eagle still is the absolute best…

Image: 1908_no_motto_Saint-Gaudens_double_eagle_obverse.jpg

Her arms are considered too flabby by today’s standards. But, yes, another walking liberty design would be great for a new $1 coin, assuming we are going to get rid of the paper.

162 freetoken  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:49:05pm

Maybe the Mint can start doing Niobium coins (like the Canadians and some Europeans), and we can get blue or green insets. That’s be neat.

163 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:50:31pm

The world has gone insane.

Youtube Video

164 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 3:56:17pm

re: #154 darthstar

I guess Glenn’s looking for some kind of scandal…somewhere…again…

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Good grief. These people are fucking morons.

And that’s a New York Times reporter Greenwald’s retweeting. Unreal.

165 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:01:47pm
166 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:02:39pm
167 b.d.  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:04:56pm

re: #154 darthstar

I guess Glenn’s looking for some kind of scandal…somewhere…again…

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Police State!!

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168 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:05:03pm

re: #162 freetoken

Sounds good to me. Complete currency reform.

169 Gus  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:07:01pm

Manning’s in deep dodo. He could get life.

170 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:07:43pm

CALL THE WAAAHMBULANCE!11!

171 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:09:59pm

Just testing something myself.


Youtube Video

172 b.d.  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:10:07pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

CALL THE WAAAHMBULANCE!11!

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Does that guy know what the phrase “the new black” means?

”_____ is the new black” is an expression used to indicate the sudden popularity or versatility of an idea at the expense of the popularity of a second idea.

Link

173 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:10:28pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

Today’s B. Fischer delusions are worse than normal. I doubt there if there is even a single instance in all US history of a Christian being lynched for being a Christian, while the entire town treats the event as an occasion for an impromptu holiday.

174 freetoken  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:10:57pm

Uh oh… NSA Google is collecting metadata:

Google searches mined to uncover our true opinions

Every time you ask Google to help solve your personal problems, you are taking part in one of the largest social science experiments ever conducted.

Google Trends is a web tool for tracking what terms Google users are searching for in a given period. The anonymised, aggregate data is compiled from 100 billion searches every month, and can be broken down by region. Google itself has published an annual Zeitgeist of the most popular searches worldwide since 2000 (2012’s included “Whitney Houston”, “Gangnam Style” and “Hurricane Sandy”).

[…]

He analysed Google searches and voting patterns in the US to measure the extent to which racism hurt Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election. He ranked states based n the proportion of searches that contained the word “n*****” between 2004 and 2007. The states with the highest rates of these searches were ones where Obama underperformed in the election, such as Ohio and West Virginia. He concluded that racism alone cost Obama 3 to 5 per cent of the total vote.

“This is about twice as high as is found by most surveys, presumably because many people do not want to admit this motivation,” he says.

[…]

Chris Scheitle of the College of Saint Benedict in St Joseph, Minnesota, found that states with the highest number of searches for “creationism” were also those with the most stringent laws restricting the teaching of evolution in public schools. “It can help understand the influence of a certain religious group on public policy,” he says.

[…]

175 GeneJockey  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:12:02pm

re: #161 freetoken

Her arms are considered too flabby by today’s standards.

And those thighs! And look at her ankles!
//

176 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:12:58pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

CALL THE WAAAHMBULANCE!11!

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Oh wah. Call me back when you have to worry about how you respond to a non-Christian, Bry. Whining douche loser.

177 GeneJockey  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:14:10pm

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

CALL THE WAAAHMBULANCE!11!

Christian is the new black. Jim Crow is alive and well in San Antonio.

Yeah, let me know when it becomes okay to shoot Christians because they scare you.

178 EPR-radar  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:15:28pm

re: #174 freetoken

Although Google et al. are probably a worse threat to privacy than the Feds, this particular exercise looks harmless, since it relates to anonymized data.

179 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:20:27pm

Charles, did this tweek have something to do with embedded video? You Tube seems to loading faster than it did before. And if so will this speed up Vimeo video as well?

180 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:51:46pm

re: #178 EPR-radar

Although Google et al. are probably a worse threat to privacy than the Feds, this particular exercise looks harmless, since it relates to anonymized data.

That’s what They want you to think.

181 Decatur Deb  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:53:14pm

re: #174 freetoken

Uh oh… NSA Google is collecting metadata:

Google searches mined to uncover our true opinions

Which means that Hillary starts with a 3-5 percent boost, minus the ‘female’ penalty.

182 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jul 25, 2013 4:56:51pm

Night Lizards. As always, May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.


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