New York Times: Al Qaeda Messages Prompted US Terror Warning

“A lot more than the usual chatter”
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Greenwald cultists are already mocking this report, but American officials have told the New York Times that the terror alert issued today was prompted by the interception of electronic communications among top Al Qaeda leaders.

WASHINGTON — The United States intercepted electronic communications this week among senior operatives of Al Qaeda, in which the terrorists discussed attacks against American interests in the Middle East and North Africa, American officials said Friday.

The intercepts and a subsequent analysis of them by American intelligence agencies prompted the United States to issue an unusual global travel alert to American citizens on Friday, warning of the potential for terrorist attacks by operatives of Al Qaeda and their associates beginning Sunday through the end of August.

The bulletin to travelers and expatriates, issued by the State Department, came less than a day after the department announced that it was closing nearly two dozen American diplomatic missions in the Middle East and North Africa, including facilities in Egypt, Iraq, Yemen, Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Britain said Friday that it would close its embassy in Yemen on Monday and Tuesday because of “increased security concerns.”

It is unusual for the United States to come across discussions among senior Qaeda operatives about operational planning — through informants, intercepted e-mails or eavesdropping on cellphone calls. So when the high-level intercepts were collected and analyzed this week, senior officials at the C.I.A., State Department and White House immediately seized on their significance. Members of Congress have been provided classified briefings on the matter, officials said Friday.

“This was a lot more than the usual chatter,” said one senior American official who had been briefed on the information but would not provide details. Spokesmen the State Department and the C.I.A. also declined to comment on the intercepts.

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176 comments

1 jaunte  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 7:58:28pm
2 GeneJockey  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 7:59:51pm

I seem fated today to post on newly-superceded threads. Let’s see how long THIS one lasts!

3 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:06:40pm

And those jackasses who think Greenwald shits sunshine were yelling false flag before any details even came out.

4 piratedan  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:08:51pm

re: #3 Kragar

And those jackasses who think Greenwald shits sunshine were yelling false flag before any details even came out.

one must protect the hive mother!

5 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:17:07pm

Sunday is President Barack Obama’s 52nd birthday, and it’s also the day Iran inaugurates Hassan Rowhani as its new president.

cnbc.com

6 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:17:23pm

re: #5 sattv4u2

Sunday is President Barack Obama’s 52nd birthday, and it’s also the day Iran inaugurates Hassan Rowhani as its new president.

cnbc.com

U.S. officials told NBC News they had heard nothing to indicate that the date was chosen for either of those reasons.

7 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:21:49pm

Defiant nuns and monks refuse to give up Kentucky land for gas pipeline

Two Kentucky Catholic religious orders that collectively own more than 3,000 acres of historic farmland are refusing to give up portions of their lands for a proposed natural-gas pipeline that would channel millions of gallons of pressurized, highly flammable natural-gas liquids through the area. According to the Louisville Courier-Journal, the nuns of the Sisters of Loretto and the monks of the Abbey of Gethsemani have denied surveyors permission to survey the land ahead of the pipeline project and say that they have no interest in helping it along.

“We’ve been on this property since 1824,” said Sister Maria Visse, service coordinator for the Sisters of Loretto. “We feel entrusted with this (land). It’s a gift. It’s not a commodity.”

8 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:25:24pm

It’s not only in the US. Security has been markedly increased in the UK.

9 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:25:45pm

Hello Lizards!

AM Today: Oooo. Majestic Sequoia! :)

PM Today: uuuuh. Oaktree meets the 210 at 5pm. :(

Last full day in California before returning to Philly tomorrow evening. Today was also the last big driving day. (5 hrs, converted to 7 hrs by LA area traffic.)

10 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:27:42pm

re: #7 Kragar

Defiant nuns and monks refuse to give up Kentucky land for gas pipeline

Silly Papists! Imminent Domain belongs to the State, not to God!

Render unto Caeser, etc etc…

11 Gus  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:28:49pm
12 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:31:38pm

re: #8 austin_blue

It’s not only in the US. Security has been markedly increased in the UK.

from above

Britain said Friday that it would close its embassy in Yemen on Monday and Tuesday because of “increased security concerns.”

13 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:32:13pm

re: #10 austin_blue

Silly Papists! Imminent Domain belongs to the State, not to God!

Render unto Caeser, etc etc…

Though I wonder how you can claim imminent domain without having every surveyed the land. And how will a court feel about you suing to get permission to survey? I have my doubts they’d allow that. So the best approach would probably be to not let the pipeline company even get their foot in the door so to speak.

14 jaunte  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:37:11pm

re: #7 Kragar

“With each landowner we approach,” he said, “we pledge to be a respectful guest on their land and ensure they are well informed about what activities are taking place.”

Williams Co. is currently struggling to bring one of its Gulf coast ethylene plants back online after a deadly explosion on June 13. The Geismar Olefins plant in Louisiana had been plagued with safety violations prior to the propylene explosion that killed two workers and injured 77 others.

Who could argue with their safety record?

15 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:37:38pm

re: #11 Gus

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Ah, Glenn Miller. Disappeared on a flight to Paris in late ‘44. Body (or airplane, or wreckage) never recovered.

16 Gus  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:38:31pm

re: #15 austin_blue

Ah, Glenn Miller. Disappeared on a flight to Paris in late ‘44. Body (or airplane, or wreckage) never recovered.

ZOMG!

17 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:39:27pm

re: #15 austin_blue

Ah, Glenn Miller. Disappeared on a flight to Paris in late ‘44. Body (or airplane, or wreckage) never recovered.

Shhhhh

he’s living just outside of Vegas with Elvis and Amelia Earhart

18 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:43:14pm

Quicky before the long quiet drive home beckons

BUT ,, now that Al Q knows all our embassies will be closed on Sunday, IF they were planning an attack, wouldn’t they now just wait a day or two !?!?!

19 Lidane  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:43:48pm

Hmm. That’s new. A guy I’ve known for many years just introduced me to some other people he knows by calling me a badass.

That’s the first time anyone’s ever called me that. I like it. Haha.

20 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:43:51pm

re: #13 Feline Fearless Leader

Though I wonder how you can claim imminent domain without having every surveyed the land. And how will a court feel about you suing to get permission to survey? I have my doubts they’d allow that. So the best approach would probably be to not let the pipeline company even get their foot in the door so to speak.

Surveys? Oil companies don’t need no stinking surveys! Not when they are connecting production pads with “collection lines”. These are not pipelines, by legal definition. They are just …um…tubes that go to collection points that serve as pipeline hubs. Completely different! And no, you really can’t bitch about them, at least in the Great State of Texas. I imagine Kentucky has similar laws, or this wouldn’t be a story.

21 piratedan  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:45:11pm

re: #18 sattv4u2

highly coordinated attack plans usually require place and time components that suffer the longer you wait, i.e. bringing those assets to the right place at the right time. Plus the longer they wait, the higher the chance of capture.

22 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:46:19pm

re: #21 piratedan

highly coordinated attack plans usually require place and time components that suffer the longer you wait, i.e. bringing those assets to the right place at the right time. Plus the longer they wait, the higher the chance of capture.

Not really. Those “assets” are most likely already there. That ‘we” haven’t picked them up yet just shows we don’t really have a bead on them. They can wait it out for just that reason

23 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:46:34pm

re: #19 Lidane

Hmm. That’s new. A guy I’ve known for many years just introduced me to some other people he knows by calling me a badass.

That’s the first time anyone’s ever called me that. I like it. Haha.

Hey, homegirl, you are badass personified. Embrace it!

24 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:47:32pm

re: #21 piratedan

re: #22 sattv4u2

Not really. Those “assets” are most likely already there. That ‘we” haven’t picked them up yet just shows we don’t really have a bead on them. They can wait it out for just that reason

Case in point. How long were the 9/11 hijackers living right here, right our in the open

25 sattv4u2  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 8:48:58pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

Short turn around as i’m back here (work) in 10 hours

Lesse,,,, an hour + to get home,,,,,,,, half an hour in the morning to get ready for work,, an hour + drive back here for work ,, yup,, i’ll get PLENTY of sleep tonight!!!!

26 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:00:39pm

Armed Wisconsin agents bust into animal shelter to kill baby deer

Armed agents with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources raided an animal shelter on the Kenosha-Illinois border and killed a fawn two weeks ago, according to WISN-TV.

The Society of St. Francis told the TV station that nine DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs, who were “armed to the teeth,” corralled the shelter’s employees and then searched for the baby deer.

“I was thinking in my mind they were going to take the deer and take it to a wildlife shelter, and here they come carrying the baby deer over their shoulder. She was in a body bag,” shelter worker Ray Schulze said. “I said, ‘Why did you do that?’ He said, ‘That’s our policy,’ and I said, ‘That’s one hell of a policy.’”

The shelter had planned to send the fawn to a wildlife preserve in Illinois.

27 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:01:41pm

re: #26 Amory Blaine

Armed Wisconsin agents bust into animal shelter to kill baby deer

Them baby deer can be vicious when cornered.
/

28 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:04:05pm

re: #22 sattv4u2

Not really. Those “assets” are most likely already there. That ‘we” haven’t picked them up yet just shows we don’t really have a bead on them. They can wait it out for just that reason

You bring up an interesting point. There are Sleepers and Soldiers. The former are what you mention. The latter are brought in for specific operations.

When we, or other Western nations, start closing Embassies and Consulates or evacuating all “non-essential personnel” (which means everybody except senior staff, the Marines, and the spooks) it generally indicates there’s enough buzz on the wires to indicate that somebody is planning to fuck shit up.

It could be Sleepers *or* Soldiers. The UK started stopping random brown people in the tubes today for random questioning. Those randomly selected are royally pissed for being specifically profiled.

29 jaunte  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:07:31pm

re: #27 Kragar

twitter.com

30 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:15:28pm

re: #26 Amory Blaine

Armed Wisconsin agents bust into animal shelter to kill baby deer

Good thinking that they acted proactively:

Image: FawnInGrass.jpg

I am Bambi! The Destroyer of Worlds!

31 jaunte  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:18:17pm
32 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:18:46pm

re: #30 austin_blue

Good thinking that they acted proactively:

Image: FawnInGrass.jpg

I am Bambi! The Destroyer of Worlds!

ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US!

33 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:22:39pm

re: #32 Kragar

ITS COMING RIGHT FOR US!

No shit. That little fucker has got a Koran and an AK cleverly hidden in the brush nearby.

34 jaunte  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:29:16pm
35 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:37:14pm

re: #34 jaunte

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Odd. The rest of us in Tejas pray we don’t dream of La Llorona in the night. Too damn hot for all that caterwauling.

36 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:37:20pm

How do we find specific photos that a specific lizard has posted?

37 piratedan  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:44:02pm

re: #24 sattv4u2

counterpoint:

there’s a new sheriff in town….the Bushies never took AQ seriously, even post 9/11, I don’t think they’re afforded the same luxury by this administration.

38 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:45:47pm

re: #35 austin_blue

Odd. The rest of us in Tejas pray we don’t dream of La Llorona in the night. Too damn hot for all that caterwauling.

Pfff, Slenderman creeps them both out.

39 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 9:51:46pm

re: #36 Amory Blaine

How do we find specific photos that a specific lizard has posted?

Woohoo!

And Amory wins the LGF Gold Star Award for August 2nd, 2013 for Most Random Question Of The Day!

(Sorry Amory, but that post made me cock my may head to one side and go “Wha?”)

40 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:00:43pm

re: #38 Kragar

Pfff, Slenderman creeps them both out.

Slenderman is so 2009. La Llorona has got legs and provenance, bubba. She’s the New World incarnation of Lamia. Several thousand years old.

41 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:01:39pm

re: #40 austin_blue

Slenderman is so 2009. La Llorona has got legs and provenance, bubba. She’s the New World incarnation of Lamia. Several thousand years old.

And that is just what Slenderman wants you to think.

42 sagehen  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:06:09pm

re: #35 austin_blue

Odd. The rest of us in Tejas pray we don’t dream of La Llorona in the night. Too damn hot for all that caterwauling.

I only know who La Llorana is because she was adapted for an episode of “Grimm”. (I also learn a lot of folklore from “Supernatural.”)

43 Mentis Fugit  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:13:21pm

re: #15 austin_blue

Ah, Glenn Miller. Disappeared on a flight to Paris in late ‘44. Body (or airplane, or wreckage) never recovered.

Thanks Obama!

44 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:18:08pm

re: #41 Kragar

And that is just what Slenderman wants you to think.

re: #42 sagehen

I only know who La Llorana is because she was adapted for an episode of “Grimm”. (I also learn a lot of folklore from “Supernatural.”)

Well, when Zeus’s wife, Hera, makes you eat your own (and Zeus’s!) children for spite, it might tend to make you twist off mentally, even if you are a Demigoddes. Bad juju. Bad dreams. And since she’s immortal and can project her dreams into our heads at night…

Again, Slenderman is a punk-ass wannabe.

45 Kragar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:34:00pm

re: #44 austin_blue

Well, when Zeus’s wife, Hera, makes you eat your own (and Zeus’s!) children for spite, it might tend to make you twist off mentally, even if you are a Demigoddes. Bad juju. Bad dreams. And since she’s immortal and can project her dreams into our heads at night…

Again, Slenderman is a punk-ass wannabe.

Hera? She’s got nothing on the King in Yellow.

46 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:46:50pm

re: #38 Kragar

Pfff, Slenderman creeps them both out.

Oh gods.
The Slenderman is the bane of my existence.
How do I kill him?

47 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:51:45pm

My oldest scares himself by trying to find everything he can about the Slenderman.
Then he stays awake all night cause he thinks Slendy is looking in his window.

48 freetoken  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:56:24pm

re: #7 Kragar

“We feel entrusted with this (land). It’s a gift. It’s not a commodity.”

Communists!!

49 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:57:11pm

Well, at least I know how to kill a thread…
I got Skillz!!!
///

50 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 10:58:41pm

The actor/actress who is will be the 12th Doctor is now under the codename “Houdini.”

36 hours to go.

51 Amory Blaine  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:03:18pm

re: #39 austin_blue

Sorry about that. ;) Life has been kicking my ass.

52 freetoken  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:06:44pm

Glenn Miller w/ Coleman Hawkins & others, 1929:

MP3 Audio

53 freetoken  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:11:27pm

Still working our way through Rachmaninov’s Night Vigil:

MP3 Audio

54 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:17:14pm

Well, folks, I am off for the rack. Nice visiting with y’all and have sweet scaly dreams (sans Slenderman *or* La Llorona!).

Oh and Tiger shot a nifty li’l 61 at Firestone on Friday. So here’s me wishing I could pull in $1.3 million for four days of work.

I misspent my yoot playing baseball and soccer…

55 Lancelot Link  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:19:41pm

Slenderman’s scary enough, but what about Candlejack? Now that’s one sca

56 sagehen  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 11:48:21pm

re: #54 austin_blue

Oh and Tiger shot a nifty li’l 61 at Firestone on Friday. So here’s me wishing I could pull in $1.3 million for four days of work.

that $1.3m isn’t for four days work; his lifetime earnings need to be averaged over all the days and weeks since he started playing.

Youtube Video

57 freetoken  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 12:03:57am

Midnight… always a good time for a little bit of Telemann:

MP3 Audio

58 Kragar  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 12:17:01am

re: #55 Lancelot Link

Slenderman’s scary enough, but what about Candlejack? Now that’s one sca

I have gazed upon the true face of madness.

59 freetoken  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 2:31:08am
60 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 3:24:33am

So, I’m just becoming aware of this.

I don’t follow sports, never did, after so much exposure in HS in Floriduh where they were treated like heroes (I don’t think that’s changed much). I always saw athletes mostly as testosterone-fueled, over-privileged types who mostly couldn’t keep up academically, yet got a lot of scholarships. Sure, we girls had mandatory “phys ed”, but no organized sports. I know that’s changed to some degree, but women’s sports are still seen as second class.

deadspin.com

He thinks an apology/excuses will suffice for his egregious conduct?

I don’t want to lump all athletes into this category, but “dumb jock” really does apply to Riley Cooper.

61 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 4:21:52am

It appears The Guardian is pushing this in the UK now, calling it “details” in the headline, but then, saying this: “In June the Guardian revealed details of GCHQ’s ambitious data-hoovering programmes, Mastering the Internet and Global Telecoms Exploitation, aimed at scooping up as much online and telephone traffic as possible.” (my emphasis) So “details” and “traffic” are synonymous? We already know that the “details” of the “traffic” do not give content. Yet millions of people would hobble the ability of a country’s security agency to investigate possible acts of mass violence and killing, something that appears to be more of a necessity in the light of preventing such carnage.

BT and Vodafone among telecoms companies passing details to GCHQ

Fears of customer backlash over breach of privacy as firms give GCHQ unlimited access to their undersea cables

theguardian.com

Could there be abuses? Possibly. But until we have evidence of that, then those like Snowald should sit down and STFU. I doubt the GCHQ cares about where the average Brit orders their falafel any more than the NSA cares about anyone in the US posting photos of their genitals on FB.

If gathering metadata is an abuse of privacy, I’ll take that over another 9/11.

62 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 4:50:09am

re: #58 Kragar

I have gazed upon the true face of madness.

Kagutaba darkly chuckles at Slenderman.

Youtube Video

63 Stoatly  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:08:06am

re: #19 Lidane

Hmm. That’s new. A guy I’ve known for many years just introduced me to some other people he knows by calling me a badass.

That’s the first time anyone’s ever called me that. I like it. Haha.

Someone called me me “Big man” in Glasgow - common phrase, but it fulfilled an ambition I didn’t even know I had

64 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:11:55am

Morning coffee is a human right!

65 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:20:28am
66 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:26:44am
67 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:33:41am

re: #66 Gus

See. Look… ‘Encryption is a human right’: Wikipedia aims to lock out NSA — RT News

Huevos Rancheros is a human right.

So—this means Wikipedia will become even more irrelevant to the serious researcher?

68 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:34:07am
69 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:36:00am

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

So—this means Wikipedia will become even more irrelevant to the serious researcher?

I don’t know. I think at this point Wales is just a celebrity commentator. These types love to throw around the phrase “human right” to their pet causes. That way they can please for a UN human rights position with oversight by China, Saudi Arabia, Russia, et al.

70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:37:52am

re: #69 Gus

Wales is an Objectivist. No shit.

71 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:38:35am

re: #70 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Wales is an Objectivist. No shit.

Randian?

72 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:40:45am

re: #71 Gus

Randian?

Yep. He just doesn’t, unlike almost every other Objectivist, try to convince other people. But he’s firmly a libertarian Objectivist. But he’s not predictable: he supported Occupy, on the basis that the government is basically in on the game when it comes to financial stuff, and he criticized Wikileaks heavily and said their release of information was dangerous and stupid.

73 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:42:17am

So, in short, Wales is probably passionately sincere about encryption being a human right, and it’s unlikely he’s using it as a proxy for anti-Americanism. He’s anti-state in general.

74 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:47:04am

re: #73 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

So, in short, Wales is probably passionately sincere about encryption being a human right, and it’s unlikely he’s using it as a proxy for anti-Americanism. He’s anti-state in general.

Data encryption as a human right. 1st world problems.

“Waiter! Can I have another latte please.”

75 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:47:20am

re: #71 Gus

Randian?

Jimmy Wales is only worth $1 Million: theatlanticwire.com

Not a very good one.

76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:54:18am

re: #74 Gus

Wales would argue that people in the first world aren’t as free as they assume, and that consuming lots of commodities and having a high quality of life isn’t the same thing as being free. He’s a weird kind of objectivist, but he really, really believes that people in the world would be better off in general if Objectivism was followed. I absolutely think he’s wrong, but if all Objectivists were like Wales, things would be pretty okay.

re: #75 Justanotherhuman

Jimmy Wales is only worth $1 Million: theatlanticwire.com

Not a very good one.

He defines his self-interest in working on Wikipedia, spreading open-source ideas, etc. I would argue he’s not really an Objectivist, that he’s something better because he escapes the money trap in Objectivism, the obsessing with valuation, and that he’s really a different kind of Utilitarian.

He’s an Objectivist who wants to promote collaboration.

77 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:07:10am

re: #76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

OTOH, he loves the celebrity: nytimes.com

“I used to be just a guy. Now I’m Jimmy Wales.”

78 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:08:44am

re: #77 Justanotherhuman

OTOH, he loves the celebrity: nytimes.com

“I used to be just a guy. Now I’m Jimmy Wales.”

Sure. He is also a human being. There’s plenty to criticize. But wikipedia is awesome, and he really did start it, and that’s pretty rad. If everyone had the same level of fuckup-to-contribution-to-society Wales had, we’d be okay.

79 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:08:56am

And now I’m going to go get sweaty. Through exercise.

80 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:10:41am

re: #71 Gus

Randian?

en.wikipedia.org

also, he is… odd.

en.wikipedia.org

He makes Richard M. Stallman seem perfectly reasonable and full of completely realistic ideals.

(disclosure: I am somewhat a fan of RMS and think he is worthy of respect, despite being a bit of a loon.)

81 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:14:58am

re: #26 Amory Blaine

Armed Wisconsin agents bust into animal shelter to kill baby deer

This isn’t the first time this has happened:

Youtube Video

82 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:34:57am

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

This isn’t the first time this has happened:

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The WiDNR has been bad for a long time; then Walker & his incompetent cronies got in charge & it’s been a race downhill.

83 Dave In Austin  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:35:30am

Any one see it last nite?? I liked it

Youtube Video

84 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:43:09am

Thought for the day: Image: OXNt1ef.jpg

85 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:51:01am

re: #82 William Barnett-Lewis

The WiDNR has been bad for a long time; then Walker & his incompetent cronies got in charge & it’s been a race downhill.

How so?

86 Flounder  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:11:35am

This young lady may thought it was cute that two off balance raccoons were wandering towards her.

newyork.cbslocal.com

She got her 15 minutes of fame, I particularly love her emergency room pic.

87 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:17:09am

re: #86 Flounder

This young lady may thought it was cute that two off balance raccoons were wandering towards her.

newyork.cbslocal.com

Got her 15 minutes of fame,I particularly love her emergency room pic.

“The raccoons being there didn’t startle me. I thought this is so nice,” Larson said.

She snapped a photo and then noticed something seemed a little off with the creatures.

never snap a photo of racoons without asking their permission 1st!!

88 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:22:01am
89 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:27:18am

re: #85 Dark_Falcon

How so?

Easiest place to start is to look to the whole deer herd management fiasco with their “expert” from Texas who was only brought in to push closing hunting land like in Texas. That almost cost Scooter the recall up here.

The DNR has also become very good a politically motivated regulation enforcement. If you’re a Republican contributor, no worries. If you’re not, expect to jump through many more hoops than, say, 5 years ago.

90 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:27:46am

re: #87 sattv4u2

“The raccoons being there didn’t startle me. I thought this is so nice,” Larson said.

She snapped a photo and then noticed something seemed a little off with the creatures.

never snap a photo of racoons without asking their permission 1st!!

newsblogs.chicagotribune.com

91 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:28:55am

re: #89 William Barnett-Lewis

Easiest place to start is to look to the whole deer herd management fiasco with their “expert” from Texas who was only brought in to push closing hunting land like in Texas. That almost cost Scooter the recall up here.

The DNR has also become very good a politically motivated regulation enforcement. If you’re a Republican contributor, no worries. If you’re not, expect to jump through many more hoops than, say, 5 years ago.

Examples? Just trying to learn more.

92 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:32:45am
93 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:34:22am

re: #91 Dark_Falcon

Examples? Just trying to learn more.

I’ll try to track some down - admittedly most of it is friend of a friend as these things usually are until someone is charged for the corruption.

There are lots of stories about the deer herd thing. It was a big thing that he hired someone from Texas about the Wisconsin herd.

94 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:38:11am

The state of the modern GOP:

Image: uZh8PgN.jpg

95 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:42:31am


‘Morning!

96 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:03:35am

Jay Z recently dropped the hyphen in his name, and now that hyphen has a Craig’s List ad:

newyork.craigslist.org

97 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:09:33am


Moron.

98 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:12:44am

re: #97 Gus

99 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:16:02am
100 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:20:40am

Hey, looks like Todd Kincannon’s twitter account got suspended. I guess that means his theory of how the twitter gulag works was wrong?

101 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:20:49am


Lies!
— Greenwald

102 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:22:19am
103 erik_t  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:22:55am

This false flag is big enough to be the earth’s bedsheet.

CONSPIRACY!!!1

104 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:23:41am

re: #94 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Not the case:

Governor Chris Christie recently challenged Senator Rand Paul over his opposition to the National Security Agency metadata program. Paul has also tangled with Senator John McCain and other internationalists over drone warfare, democracy promotion, and, more generally, intervention abroad.

So what else is new? The return of the most venerable strain of conservative foreign policy — isolationism — was utterly predictable. GOP isolationists dominated until Pearl Harbor and then acquiesced to an activist internationalism during the Cold War because of a fierce detestation of Communism.

With Communism gone, the conservative coalition should have fractured long ago. This was delayed by 9/11 and the rise of radical Islam. But now, twelve years into that era — after Afghanistan and Iraq, after drone wars and the NSA revelations — the natural tension between isolationist and internationalist tendencies has resurfaced.

In fact, both parties are internally split on domestic surveillance, as reflected in the very close recent House vote on curbing the NSA. This is not civil war. It’s a healthy debate that helps recalibrate the delicate line between safety and security as conditions (threat level and surveillance technology, for example) change.

Neither party is going to break up over the Snowden Affair. Yes, there is dissension, but that’s not a lethal thing and it does serve the useful function of prompting debate on privacy vs. security.

105 Lidane  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:24:36am

Gotta love that GOP rebranding:

106 Mattand  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:25:09am

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

So—this means Wikipedia will become even more irrelevant to the serious researcher?

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

107 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:25:52am

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Hey, DF, you have a messed up link in your DOD fraud page. Just FYI.

108 erik_t  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:26:16am

You shouldn’t treat a dead-tree encyclopedia as an actual reference source, either. Somehow, this is regularly lost in the discussion.

109 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:28:05am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

I find it works best as a starting point and as a sanity check- the same way I would use our set of World Book encyclopedias when I was growing up. I ought to buy a set of that or Britannica just to leave out for my son to discover… ;) Only thing half as fun were my dad’s art history text books.

110 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:28:55am

re: #60 Justanotherhuman

So, I’m just becoming aware of this.

I don’t want to lump all athletes into this category, but “dumb jock” really does apply to Riley Cooper.

The amazing thing is that many sports talk-radio stations are acting as the voice of reason on this. Most of the calls are a variation of:

1) Well, black people use the word… it can’t really be racist.
2) Therefore it must be an accident if a white guy does it
and/or
3) We could be free of racism if it weren’t for those people

The top-rated comment on a Yahoo article is exactly like that- the comment actually uses the term “The Blacks”.

Context goddamnit

111 Mattand  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:29:11am

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

Not the case:

Neither party is going to break up over the Snowden Affair. Yes, there is dissension, but that’s not a lethal thing and it does serve the useful function of prompting debate on privacy vs. security.

I sort of agree with this. The Republicans can always unite over their core values of repealing Obamacare, banning abortion, and being proudly homophobic, at the expense of truly important matters, like the economy.

112 GeneJockey  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:30:20am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

Right. Wikipedia is an excellent starting point, not something you cite in an argument, but since there is often a direct link to the actual evidence, it’s very useful.

It’s also useful when my boss - or worse, HIS boss - wants me to investigate some gene product. Some of them have like 20 names! And it’s often the same as another gene product, or similar enough that you can easily mix them up. I once spent a whole afternoon chasing the wrong gene. Too bad, too. That other one looked like a better target!

113 Lidane  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:31:07am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

My professors in both undergrad and grad school said using Wikipedia as a starting point was fine, but that we’d have to cite the original sources from anything we used, not the Wiki article itself.

Seemed to work out for me just fine.

114 Mattand  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:34:17am

re: #110 Carlos Danger

The amazing thing is that many sports talk-radio stations are acting as the voice of reason on this. Most of the calls are a variation of:

1) Well, black people use the word… it can’t really be racist.
2) Therefore it must be an accident if a white guy does it
and/or
3) We could be free of racism if it weren’t for those people

The top-rated comment on a Yahoo article is exactly like that- the comment actually uses the term “The Blacks”.

Context goddamnit

You want to really get depressed, go read the comments sections in Philly.com articles about this asshole.

I’ve been watching Eagles fans for decades now. I can say without hesitation that easily 40% of them are fully behind Cooper.

And Cooper’s excuse that he never uses that word: fuck you, racist asshole. White privileged athlete being told he can’t do something by a black man, and the Ni-CLANG epithet “accidentally” came out?

Stupid, racist, and a liar is no way to go through life, son.

115 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:39:20am

re: #93 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ll try to track some down - admittedly most of it is friend of a friend as these things usually are until someone is charged for the corruption.

There are lots of stories about the deer herd thing. It was a big thing that he hired someone from Texas about the Wisconsin herd.

Reminds me of the story I heard about some Texan calling the Pennsylvania state game lands “socialist”.

I’ll take real hunting land owned by the people over deer farm death parks anyday.

116 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:39:25am

re: #107 William Barnett-Lewis

Hey, DF, you have a messed up link in your DOD fraud page. Just FYI.

Thanks, its fixed now and I replied to your post.

117 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:40:36am

re: #111 Mattand

Oh brother.

118 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:42:01am

re: #112 GeneJockey

Right. Wikipedia is an excellent starting point, not something you cite in an argument, but since there is often a direct link to the actual evidence, it’s very useful.

It’s also useful when my boss - or worse, HIS boss - wants me to investigate some gene product. Some of them have like 20 names! And it’s often the same as another gene product, or similar enough that you can easily mix them up. I once spent a whole afternoon chasing the wrong gene. Too bad, too. That other one looked like a better target!

There’s nothing elitist about not going directly to Wikileaks. It’s a last resort for me, if I fail to find anything original on my own by googling. There can be bias and dead links far too many times for my own comfort in using it as a starting point of information.

I mainly use it as an “identifier” of people, places and things I know nothing about.

119 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:42:13am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

When I’m especially bored ill look up something on Wikipedia and take a trip through the links. I’m sure I’m not alone. Hell, this is a great read:

en.wikipedia.org

120 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:44:03am

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Oh brother.

Oh come on, when the Republican party mirrors the rhetoric of Men’s Right Advocates and White Student Unions you should know something is wrong.

121 erik_t  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:45:49am

Linkre: #119 Stanley Sea

In my meatspace circles, this is referred to as “falling into Wikipedia”.

Steer clear of anything current-events-y or historically contentious and you can have a great and educational time. Here’s a great starting point: when North America almost split in two, thus bestowing the north Midwest with mineral resources that wouldn’t have otherwise existed (and thus steering the whole course of American industrialization).

122 Stephen T.  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:45:50am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

I’ve seen a professor take it one step further claiming that if a given source is used by Wikipedia, the source itself becomes suspect. It has been pointed out to him how many sources are now “suspect” in his eyes, but his hate for Wikipedia is that great.

123 erik_t  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:46:47am

re: #122 Stephen T.

I’ve seen a professor take it one step further claiming that if a given source is used by Wikipedia, the source itself becomes suspect. It has been pointed out to him how many sources are now “suspect” in his eyes, but his hate for Wikipedia is that great.

The fuck? That’s imbecilic.

You should cite him as a reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia

124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:47:27am

re: #104 Dark_Falcon

That picture had nothing to do with Snowden, no clue what you’re talking about.

125 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:48:38am

re: #114 Mattand

You want to really get depressed, go read the comments sections in Philly.com articles about this asshole.

I’ve been watching Eagles fans for decades now. I can say without hesitation that easily 40% of them are fully behind Cooper.

And Cooper’s excuse that he never uses that word: fuck you, racist asshole. White privileged athlete being told he can’t do something by a black man, and the Ni-CLANG epithet “accidentally” came out?

Stupid, racist, and a liar is no way to go through life, son.

Just wait a while and you’ll see those fans smacked down: The Eagles have to play the NFC North this year.

That means that the cheeseheads wlewisiii roots for (AKA the Green Bay Packers) are going to clean Philly’s clock at Lambeau Field on November 10th.

On December 22nd the Chicago Bears come to the City of Brotherly Love and they are going to give the Eagles fans an early Christmas present the fans won’t like by trouncing the Eagles.

126 Lidane  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:49:36am

*sigh*

Alabama state champion coach and AD fired for being a member of the wrong church

One of the most successful coaches in the state of Alabama is suddenly out of a job after he was dismissed for what initially seems to be a remarkably trivial reason: He attends the wrong church.

As reported by the Montgomery Advertiser, Prattville (Ala.) East Memorial Christian Academy super coach Scott Phillips, who led the school’s football program to its first state playoff birth in years and coached the boys basketball team to the first state title in any sport, was dismissed because he refused to force his family to attend East Memorial Baptist Church.

While Phillips had never been forced to attend the school’s affiliated church when he was only a coach, that changed when he became the school’s athletic director. As confirmed by the Advertiser, East Memorial Christian Academy’s athletic director was expected to attend the East Memorial Baptist Church, even though there was allegedly not an official clause in the contract requiring such attendance.

127 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:50:02am

re: #124 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Your argument was that the Republican party was eating itself, and I replied with a link to a recent column that argued that was not the case.

128 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:54:23am

Just 26 hours and 6 minutes to go.

Apparently, there was a suicide attack on a Indian Consulate in Jalalabad.

Definitely done by the Taliban with Pakistani support.

129 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:55:01am

re: #114 Mattand

But if you can’t wait till late in the season to see the Eagles get their asses handed to them, you don’t have to. Weeks 4 and 5 have the theme “The Manning Brothers Make the Philly Defense Look Like Fools”. First the Eagles lose in Denver against Peyton Manning and the Broncos then the next week they head to New York to get stomped by Eli and the Giants.

130 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:59:16am

re: #126 Lidane

*sigh*

Alabama state champion coach and AD fired for being a member of the wrong church

So now the fundies are fighting amongst themselves?

131 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:01:25am

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Your argument was that the Republican party was eating itself, and I replied with a link to a recent column that argued that was not the case.

Oroborus isn’t really ‘eating itself’. The implication is of an eternal round, eternal recreation, the appearance of aggressive motion with the actuality of nothing really changing. Spinning your wheels.

In combination with the “Don’t Tread on Me”, to me it makes a sort of pastiche of the aggressive, rebellious aspect of the GOP, the obstruction of governance, the continuous cycle of pushing towards the right. Really, it’s a very imperfect analogy because the GOP is changing— it’s been getting worse, and worse, and worse, and worse.

132 Internet Tough Guy  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:01:37am

re: #128 ProTARDISLiberal

Obviously a false flag by the Obama Administration.

/gg

133 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:03:41am

re: #128 ProTARDISLiberal

Just 26 hours and 6 minutes to go.

Apparently, there was a suicide attack on a Indian Consulate in Jalalabad.

Definitely done by the Taliban with Pakistani support.

ISI maybe. AQ denies.

134 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:07:05am

re: #132 Internet Tough Guy

I could see Glenn Greenwald saying that.

re: #133 Gus

That’s what I am expecting with the ISI. Though the new Islamist Government may have been supportive.

I really don’t trust the Pakistani government.

I am happy with the banning of the Jamaat-i-Islami in Bangladesh. I am hoping those whack-jobs riot, to show the Bengalis what they really are. A bunch of unintelligent, violent barbarians.

135 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:08:39am

Alex Witt on MSNBC right now is having Julian Assange on to talk about Snowjob and whether he is “safe” in Russia.

How the hell would Assange know? He’s holed up in an embassy in London. Oh, wait—Sarah Harrison…

136 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:09:10am

re: #134 ProTARDISLiberal

I am hoping those whack-jobs riot, to show the Bengalis what they really are. A bunch of unintelligent, violent barbarians.

And what of the innocents that would invariably be caught up in said “riot”!

{sigh}

137 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11:00am

re: #94 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

GOP thine name is Ouroboros.

138 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:11:24am

re: #134 ProTARDISLiberal

Never hope for a riot, PLL. That what racist assholes who want to shoot black people do. Your proposed targets are far more worthy of the bullets you’d have them receive, but shooting them is still a bad thing and its better that does not happen.

Moreover, before any Islamist riot was suppressed, a good number of non-Islamists may be killed. So do not be quick to wish for disorder and death.

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:17:48am
140 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:19:36am

re: #139 Backwoods_Sleuth

This is fun:

Dueling theology via church signs

Cute bit of Photoshop.

141 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:26:03am

re: #106 Mattand

I don’t buy the whole “Never use Wikipedia for research” argument. I get into this with my school teacher sister all the time.

Should it be the only source for research? Of course not. But the thing is, they hyperlink the footnotes right on the frigging page. The sources are right there.

Honestly, I think much of the hating on Wikipedia is a perceived elitist thing: easily accessible on a home computer, as opposed to being a huge stack of expensive printed books.

You brought up 2 more points I overlooked in my response to Gene Jockey: The footnotes, which might be links to actual books, and sometimes, carefully lifted passages from entire articles, etc which you are expected to take at face value.

Now, I’m not saying that all information found in Wikipedia is suspect, but I’ve found enough to try to find other sources first, and as stated, only go to Wikipedia as a last resort online or as an identifier, just as I don’t try to diagnose myself on medical sites but go directly to a dr if I’m in real distress and for treatment and tests.

142 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:27:58am


The U.S. is very concerned about the sit-ins at Rabaa and Nahdet [two areas in Cairo where the Muslim Brotherhood has staged sit-ins].

We really wonder: Where is the role of the United States and the European Union and all of the other international forces that are interested in the security, safety, and well-being of Egypt? Are the values of freedom and democracy exclusively exercised in your countries but other countries do not have the right to exercise the same values and enjoy the same environment? Have you seen the scores of millions of Egyptians calling for change in Tahrir? What is your response to that?

You left the Egyptians, you turned your back on the Egyptians and they won’t forget that. Now you want to continue turning your backs on Egyptians? The U.S. interest and the popular will of the Egyptians don’t have to conflict. We always asked the U.S. officials to provide advice to the former president to overcome his problems….

143 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:28:26am

“You left the Egyptians, you turned your back on the Egyptians and they won’t forget that.”

So annoying this Egypt.

144 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:31:13am

Egypt has been around for 5,000 years.

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:31:33am

re: #143 Gus

“You left the Egyptians, you turned your back on the Egyptians and they won’t forget that.”

So annoying this Egypt.

Reply:

“‘The Egyptians’? Which Egyptians are you talking about, General? Because it seems clear quite a few Egyptians hold you in rather low regard these days.”

146 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:36:54am

OK, so Assange is not appearing, his lawyer is, on MSNBC.

147 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:45:42am

Matthew Tully: Tony Bennett’s wife now works at for-profit corporation he picked to run IPS schools

In June of 2011, Tony Bennett, then Indiana’s superintendent of public instruction, picked a for-profit education company in Florida to run a group of Indianapolis public schools.

The company, Charter Schools USA, set up operations in Indianapolis soon after the announcement and officially began running Manual High School, T.C. Howe High School and Emma Donnan middle school in the late summer of 2012. Millions of Indiana tax dollars have since flowed to the company, which has received many good reviews for its work in Indianapolis.

But a recent hiring decision by Charter Schools USA is sure to raise eyebrows and questions about conflicts of interest, particularly now that Bennett is embroiled in a massive controversy centering on special treatment given to certain Indiana schools during his tenure.

The decision: Charter Schools USA earlier this year hired Tony Bennett’s wife, Tina, as a regional director based in Florida, where Tony Bennett was hired late last year as commissioner of education. And, so, the bottom line is this: Tina Bennett is now earning a paycheck from the company her husband hand-picked to take over schools in Indiana, a decision that was very good for the company’s financial fortunes.

148 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:46:44am

re: #105 Lidane

Gotta love that GOP rebranding:

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I hope he keeps on talking. That dumbass is going to ruin his running mate’s career. If only McAuliffe were half likable, this election would be a shoe in.

149 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:47:09am
150 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:47:26am

re: #134 ProTARDISLiberal

Dude, you need to quit this crap. I’ve been willing to cut you some slack for having AS, but you do this a lot and it alienates people. Stop wishing for any violence on anyone anywhere- that’s a really good rule of thumb. You are not a stupid person, use your brain to think of alternatives to violence. There are times when physically, violently fighting back against real evil is warranted, but honestly it’s not as often as you think it is.

You manage to get worked up about stuff going on halfway around the world a lot. Maybe you could channel that negative energy into doing some good closer to home. Swing a hammer for Habitat for Humanity, volunteer at your local animal rescue group(they ALWAYS need help), offer to help teach elementary students to read on grade level, work with an environmental group to clean up the garbage tossed into a stream or river. The list is practically endless. Or start something yourself. Throw a fundraiser to buy a service dog for a returning veteran or a kid with diabetes, those dogs are expensive as hell and worth every penny.

I hate to see a young person who is so bright consumed with such hostility, channel it and DO something great, you’ll be surprised at the good that comes from it for you and those you help.

151 Mattand  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:49:13am

re: #117 Dark_Falcon

Oh brother.

Voting Republican nowadays is supporting the American Taliban. Sorry, if one is comfortable with:

• Banning abortion
• Unapologetic bigotry as a matter of policy
• Trying to destroy Obama at the expense of our country
• Insisting that the US is a Christian nation
• Financial policies that punish poor people and create more of them

by all means, continue to support the GOP.

Here’s the thing: from 2001 to 2006, conservatives had all 3 branches of the government: executive, legislative, and judicial.

The result:they destroyed the joint. And the overwhelming response from conservatives has been “We weren’t conservative enough.”

I mean, look at the 2012 crop of GOP wannabes. Rick Santourm? Newt Gingrich? Michelle Bachmann? Ron Paul? The best they could do was a billionaire who made his fortune in part from destroying companies and jobs, and made no bones about the fact he hated poor people.

If that’s what you want to support, that’s up to you. The Democrats have their problems, but they pale in light of the institutional reactionary insanity that passes for Republican policy.

And God help us if these people get back in power.

152 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:53:08am

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Dude, you need to quit this crap. I’ve been willing to cut you some slack for having AS, but you do this a lot and it alienates people. Stop wishing for any violence on anyone anywhere- that’s a really good rule of thumb. You are not a stupid person, use your brain to think of alternatives to violence. There are times when fighting back against real evil is warranted, but honestly it’s not as often as you think it is.

You manage to get worked up about stuff going on halfway around the world a lot. Maybe you could channel that negative energy into doing some good closer to home. Swing a hammer for Habitat for Humanity, volunteer at your local animal rescue group(they ALWAYS need help), offer to help teach elementary students to read on grade level, work with an environmental group to clean up the garbage tossed into a stream or river. The list is practically endless. Or start something yourself. Throw a fundraiser to buy a service dog for a returning veteran or a kid with diabetes, those dogs are expensive as hell and worth every penny.

I hate to see a young person who is so bright consumed with such hostility, channel it and DO something great, you’ll be surprised at the good that comes from it for you and those you help.

As someone around PLL’s age and with the same condition, I have to very much agree with this. Well said.

153 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:54:07am

Speaking of racism, saw 42 last night. Probably one of the better baseball films I’ve seen in a while.

154 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:57:33am
155 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:59:56am

re: #154 Gus

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Now there’s a name I haven’t heard in a while.

156 Mattand  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:01:51am

re: #129 Dark_Falcon

But if you can’t wait till late in the season to see the Eagles get their asses handed to them, you don’t have to. Weeks 4 and 5 have the theme “The Manning Brothers Make the Philly Defense Look Like Fools”. First the Eagles lose in Denver against Peyton Manning and the Broncos then the next week they head to New York to get stomped by Eli and the Giants.

My ability to acknowledge the less-than-savory aspects of Eagles fandom does not mean I want to see the team go 0-16.

157 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:02:25am

re: #154 Gus

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Hahaha!

Ra ‏@Ra__ 4h

@ggreenwald @jaykirell In fairness Glenn, you deplore speculation regarding Putin craving info from Snowden but not for terror alert theory

158 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:06:38am

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Nice try, but deaf ears

He’s been told similar many times by many different posters here, all to no avail

159 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:06:59am
160 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:07:55am

re: #159 Gus

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hey. I think I see my uncle waving at me!!

161 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:11:17am

re: #160 sattv4u2

hey. I think I see my uncle waving at me!!

He from Argentina?

162 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:11:55am

re: #161 Gus

He from Argentina?

Not originally. Italy, but he moved there decades ago

163 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:12:53am

re: #161 Gus

re: #162 sattv4u2

Not originally. Italy, but he moved there decades ago

truth be told. I don’t even know if he’s still alive. haven’t seen/ spoken to anyone from that ‘branch’ of the family tree in probably 30-35 years

164 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:14:16am

re: #163 sattv4u2

truth be told. I don’t even know if he’s still alive. haven’t seen/ spoken to anyone from that ‘branch’ of the family tree in probably 30-35 years

Yeah. I have a rather large branch of my mom’s family that still lives down there. I’ve never contacted them. Just another nuclear family as they say.

165 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:23:55am
166 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:27:11am
167 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:32:12am
168 Gus  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:33:14am

re: #166 NJDhockeyfan

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History Channel.

169 OhNoZombies!  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:40:04am

re: #134 ProTARDISLiberal

I could see Glenn Greenwald saying that.

re: #133 Gus

That’s what I am expecting with the ISI. Though the new Islamist Government may have been supportive.

I really don’t trust the Pakistani government.

I am happy with the banning of the Jamaat-i-Islami in Bangladesh. I am hoping those whack-jobs riot, to show the Bengalis what they really are. A bunch of unintelligent, violent barbarians.

I don’t down ding in general, but I think you’ve developed a bad habit…

170 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:42:39am

re: #167 bratwurst

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Yeah I don’t even like wine much and this offends me.

171 GeneJockey  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:46:04am

re: #137 PhillyPretzel

GOP thine name is Ouroboros.

“My parents couldn’t even decide what to name me. The box they found me in was labeled “Our Rob or Ross.”

172 Kragar  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:47:24am

re: #171 GeneJockey

“My parents couldn’t even decide what to name me. The box they found me in was labeled “Our Rob or Ross.”

Red Dwarf always gets an upding

173 GeneJockey  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 10:52:51am

re: #172 Kragar

Red Dwarf always gets an upding

CATSUP? On LOBSTER?

174 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 11:59:16am
175 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 12:01:43pm

re: #141 Justanotherhuman

You brought up 2 more points I overlooked in my response to Gene Jockey: The footnotes, which might be links to actual books, and sometimes, carefully lifted passages from entire articles, etc which you are expected to take at face value.

Now, I’m not saying that all information found in Wikipedia is suspect, but I’ve found enough to try to find other sources first, and as stated, only go to Wikipedia as a last resort online or as an identifier, just as I don’t try to diagnose myself on medical sites but go directly to a dr if I’m in real distress and for treatment and tests.

Wikipedia, IMHO, should not be a primary source. It can, however, be a source.

176 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 12:02:59pm

re: #134 ProTARDISLiberal

I could see Glenn Greenwald saying that.

That’s what I am expecting with the ISI. Though the new Islamist Government may have been supportive.

I really don’t trust the Pakistani government.

I am happy with the banning of the Jamaat-i-Islami in Bangladesh. I am hoping those whack-jobs riot, to show the Bengalis what they really are. A bunch of unintelligent, violent barbarians.

look-up the word INTERDEPENDENT


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