Voice of Russia’s “Homosexual Expert”: Bryan Fischer

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VOR also spoke with Bryan Fischer, head of the American Family Association, who has a different view on the situation.

“Russia is not being homophobic, it’s homorealistic - the Russian government is trying to take the issue into consideration and establish public policy to contribute to public health, as this lifestyle is not be promoted, endorsed or granted special legal protection”, the expert said, warning of high health risks linked to this lifestyle.

He cites the Center for Disease Control that has monitored the HIV epidemic since 1987 and determined that 61% of HIV-positive males had sexual contacts with other males.

“Homosexual behavior is just as risky as drug abuse,” Fischer said.

” I think the Russian government is right to be concerned with propaganda on teenagers who are at the age of struggling through sexual identity issue and we should help to channel these urges in productive behavior. Heterosexuality is God’s design. Policies that encourage young people to think this are good ideas.”

Though same-sex marriages are becoming common all across the world, it doesn’t mean that this idea is popular and everybody supports it, Fischer said.

“Homosexual behavior damages the body and soul. We love homosexuals enough to tell them the truth.”

Read more: voiceofrussia.com

More: Russia Not Homophobic, It’s Homorealistic - The Voice of Russia

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190 comments
1 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 10:29:42am

Tlhe right-wing is sure getting cushy with the Kremlin, from their support for refugee spy Edward Snowden to their acceptance of conspiracy site RT.com as an unimpeachable source, to this.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Tea Party?

2 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:42:54am

Voice of Russia is the Russian government’s official international radio station, by the way.

3 lawhawk  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:45:37am

Homorealistic - the right of the socon right to be as bigoted as possible and ignore the other rights being violated:

free speech for those being arrested, harassed, beaten or worse;
free expression to publicly identify with a sexual preference
right to privacy - the ability to engage in sexual activities between consenting adults without fear of government interference.

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:50:35am

And it should be noted that most of the Republican presidential candidates gave interviews to Bryan Fischer in the last election, as well. Yeah, Russia is much worse than the US on gay rights, but if the Republican Party had free reign to do what they wanted, the US would look just like Russia.

5 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:52:26am

Orthodox Church in Charge?

How does Bryan really feel about that?

6 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:52:31am

This is mighty Holy Shit

7 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:52:32am

Well, Bryan, if you support crushing Gubmint oversight, you might as well hang with the experts.

8 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:53:50am

Homorealism. Race realism…

9 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:55:27am

re: #3 lawhawk

Homorealistic - the right of the socon right to be as bigoted as possible and ignore the other rights being violated:

free speech for those being arrested, harassed, beaten or worse;
free expression to publicly identify with a sexual preference
right to privacy - the ability to engage in sexual activities between consenting adults without fear of government interference.

“Homorealistic” is a nice construct. Let’s go with “Christorealistic”.

Meaning: “Most Christians are decent yobs like the rest of us, stumbling through the dark night. But anyone who makes a Mercedes out of it is pimping god.”

10 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:56:01am

Expert. Oh bouy.

11 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:56:07am

“Preachers for Profit”

12 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:56:17am

re: #8 Gus

Homorealism. Race realism…

Soviet Realpolotik, tovarisch.

13 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:57:31am

As for Fry’s contentious comparisons, the expert found paralleles [sic] between race, which is immutable, and homosexuality, which is a matter of choice and human will, invalid.

14 b.d.  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:01:29pm

Talk about your strange bedfellows.

15 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:04:35pm

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Mayor of Toronto

16 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:04:56pm

Welp. If you couldn’t find a better homosexual expert it would have to by Bryan Fischer. He knows all the homosexual things.

17 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:05:30pm

More like peas in a pod.

18 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:07:48pm

re: #16 Gus

Welp. If you couldn’t find a better homosexual expert it would have to by Bryan Fischer. He knows all the homosexual things.

Dunno.. Ethnologists are never considered expert on a group until they have lived with them night and day for a year or more.

19 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:11:25pm

re: #15 Carlos Danger

That makes me sad. I see an addict swirling down the drain there. It’s not even funny or disgusting, just really sad.

I have a friend with a prescription drug problem, just diagnosed with lymphoma on top of that. I have a feeling I’m going to get a call one day that she simply didn’t wake up that morning. Sigh.

20 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:11:54pm

re: #18 Decatur Deb

Dunno.. Ethnologists are never considered expert on a group until they have lived with them night and day for a year or more.

Yeah, I think Bryan is more of a voyeur than an expert.

21 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:12:39pm
22 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:12:41pm

re: #20 Eventual Carrion

Yeah, I think Bryan is more of a voyeur than an expert.

Would explain all the research materials.

23 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:15:22pm

Where’s the “poo, poo” guy from Uganda when you need him.

24 Eventual Carrion  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:16:06pm

re: #23 Gus

Where’s the “poo, poo” guy from Uganda when you need him.

I thought of him too. Funny clip

25 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:21:20pm

re: #24 Eventual Carrion

I thought of him too. Funny clip

Youtube Video

26 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:22:38pm

OT

27 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:27:01pm

re: #25 Gus

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Holy crap. This guy is obsessed. What a nutburger.

28 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:28:11pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

Holy crap. This guy is obsessed. What a nutburger.

There’s more.

29 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:29:29pm

This unexpected alliance with Russia is heaven’s gift to us patriots and Christians. Imagine how much Russian resources and experience could help in our struggle against liberals and welfare bums and homosexuals. We could send them to Siberia to mine gold under expert Russian management, teach ‘em to work and make ‘em happy to have a good old bowl of American gruel every day. No more money wasted on cable tv or rehab training for inmates once our wardens get a look at Lubyanka and see how it should really be done. It’s the best thing to happen since Saint Reagan fired those communard Air Traffic Controllers.

30 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:29:55pm

re: #28 Gus

There’s more.

Seriously wacked-out people. I just really don’t understand that kind of mentality; it makes no sense whatsoever.

31 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:31:13pm

re: #30 Dr Lizardo

Seriously wacked-out people. I just really don’t understand that kind of mentality; it makes no sense whatsoever.

FREEEEEEDUUUUUUUUUUUM!

32 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:31:30pm

re: #26 Gus

That is the dorkiest thing I have ever seen

33 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:32:43pm

re: #32 Carlos Danger

That is the dorkiest thing I have ever seen

He’s all that stands between Starbucks and the Krispy Kreme hordes.

34 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:32:53pm

re: #29 Shiplord Kirel

This unexpected alliance with Russia is heaven’s gift to us patriots and Christians. Imagine how much Russian resources and experience could help in our struggle against liberals and welfare bums and homosexuals. We could send them to Siberia to mine gold under expert Russian management, teach ‘em to work and make ‘em happy to have a good old bowl of American gruel every day. No more money wasted on cable tv or rehab training for inmates once our wardens get a look at Lubyanka and see how it should really be done. It’s the best thing to happen since Saint Reagan fired those communard Air Traffic Controllers.

And perhaps the wingnuts would be happy if we brought in Russia’s well-known and highly refined security apparatus and techniques. Perhaps the wingnuts could erect statues of Felix Dzerzhinsky in town squares througout ‘Real America’, or maybe Nikolai Yezhov.

36 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:36:59pm

re: #26 Gus

If Starbucks thinks I’d ever take my grandkids into a place like that, they’re doing something stronger than Kona blend.

37 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:39:14pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If Starbucks thinks I’d ever take my grandkids into a place like that, they’re doing something stronger than Kona blend.

They also held one in Newtown, CT but they closed early.

38 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:40:17pm

I think it wholly depends on the location. Strange, because places where Open Carry wouldn’t be an issue are also the low population areas in which Starbuck is least likely to have many locations (at least far from the Highway exit).

39 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:40:24pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

And perhaps the wingnuts would be happy if we brought in Russia’s well-known and highly refined security apparatus and techniques. Perhaps the wingnuts could erect statues of Felix Dzerzhinsky in town squares througout ‘Real America’, or maybe Nikolai Yezhov.

Poor Yezhov in particular would be an object of veneration, betrayed by Stalin just as the base has been betrayed by the RINOs.
/

40 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:42:40pm

Homorealistic = racialist

Using clever wordsmithing instead of real rational thinking, a common trait with today’s conservative intellectuals.

41 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:42:47pm

Google: Starbucks shooting

google.com

42 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:43:38pm

The photo the Koch brothers really don’t want you to see

43 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:44:24pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Google: Starbucks shooting

google.com

Yikes.

44 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:47:07pm

re: #41 Decatur Deb

Google: Starbucks shooting

google.com

7,000 gun deaths since Newtown. That includes the whole ball of wax.

45 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:47:49pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel

Poor Yezhov in particular would be an object of veneration, betrayed by Stalin just as the base has been betrayed by the RINOs.
/

LOL

I was reading some of the wingnuts over on FR regarding Russia, and some have suggested they wouldn’t mind living there.

LOLOLOL - yeah, have fun, and write to me after you’ve registered with the police.

46 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:48:25pm

Noticed a site upgrade. This time, when I forgot to paste a link, Pencil let me put it in and it showed in the thread immediately.

Thanks, Obama Charles.

47 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:50:54pm

I mean, seriously. That’s like showing up to Starbucks cosplaying as Jar Jar Binks or something. That’s probably more tasteful.

48 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:52:32pm

Is it only white guys who want to Open Carry?

Seriously, it’s all we see in the pictures.

I don’t get it. Is it really just a xenophobic, power and control thing? Or brainwashing?

49 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:53:13pm

re: #26 Gus

O

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You know, I don’t care if he’s a “good guy.” He looks like a knucklehead.

50 SteveMcGazi  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:53:32pm

I think today’s wingnut is yesterday’s Tory. Could you imagine the hatred directed at Jefferson and Franklin?

51 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:53:56pm

New Cleverisms Representing A Fresh Spin on Old Atavistic Philosophies:

Xenopragmatic

Femineutralism

52 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:53:58pm

re: #49 BongCrodny

You know, I don’t care if he’s a good guy. He looks like a knucklehead.

Yep. Getting a seriously bad gun safety vibe for starters.

53 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:54:44pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

Is it only white guys who want to Open Carry?

Seriously, it’s all we see in the pictures.

I don’t get it. Is it really just a xenophopic, power and control thing? Or brainwashing?

A complex interaction between Social Psychology, History, Politics and the distribution of assholes in the population sampled.

54 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:55:06pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

Is it only white guys who want to Open Carry?

Seriously, it’s all we see in the pictures.

I don’t get it. Is it really just a xenophobic, power and control thing? Or brainwashing?

If you are not white and you’re visibly armed, you could get shot. Even if it’s in the holster. Even if it’s really a bag of skittles.

55 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:55:25pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

No, it’s compensation for a lack of something, frequently the penis.

56 Carlos Danger  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:55:35pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

Is it only white guys who want to Open Carry?

Seriously, it’s all we see in the pictures.

I don’t get it. Is it really just a xenophobic, power and control thing? Or brainwashing?

Link has the Master Sword and will vanquish the associates of Ganon

57 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:55:41pm

re: #42 FemNaziBitch

The photo the Koch brothers really don’t want you to see

Just awful.

58 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:56:59pm

Rev Al interviews NARAL Illyse Houge

“condoms don’t work”
Youtube Video

59 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:57:38pm

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

Is it only white guys who want to Open Carry?

Seriously, it’s all we see in the pictures.

I don’t get it. Is it really just a xenophopic, power and control thing? Or brainwashing?

At least one woman in Gus’s link. Don’t want to guess what brought her there.

60 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:59:00pm

re: #52 Gus

Yep. Getting a seriously bad gun safety vibe for starters.

12th photo down.

Looks like guns aren’t the only things these guys are packin’.

61 SteveMcGazi  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 12:59:49pm

re: #46 Decatur Deb

Noticed a site upgrade. This time, when I forgot to paste a link, Pencil let me put it in and it showed in the thread immediately.

Thanks, Obama Charles.

I didn’t notice until now that the 5400 character allowance has zoomed to 32000! I wonder if many people went over budget with 5400.

62 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:00:41pm

re: #54 wrenchwench

If you are not white and you’re visibly armed, you could get shot. Even if it’s in the holster. Even if it’s really a bag of skittles.

How much anyone want to wager me that if this guy: Image: visite.jpg

walked into a Starbucks for ‘Gun Appreciation Day’ carrying this: Image: gl-shock-ar-15.jpg

those same patrons would start blasting like the opening day of duck season.

63 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:02:36pm

I have to wonder what would happen if Black Men walked in Carrying?

If it were one guy and he looked “middle-class” he’d probably be welcomed. If it were several looking “middle-class” it would be interesting.

64 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:02:53pm

The list of stores to frequent grows smaller every day.

65 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:03:21pm

re: #1 Shiplord Kirel

Tlhe right-wing is sure getting cushy with the Kremlin, from their support for refugee spy Edward Snowden to their acceptance of conspiracy site RT.com as an unimpeachable source, to this.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the Tea Party?

Now that they are in cahoots with the Russkies, I just can’t help turning the tables on the wingnuts and mocking them with the same kind of rhetoric their isolationist fanatic predecessors used against American leftists in the 40s and 50s. One difference is that actual western fellow-travelers in the those days were usually naive and misinformed; foolishly and willfully so in many cases, but misinformed nevertheless. In contrast, the wingnuts have a pretty clear idea of what is going on in Russia today, and they like what they see.

66 freetoken  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:03:51pm

So, what does it take for a GOP Representative to qualify to sit on the House science committee?

Science Committee Congressman: Global Warming a ‘Fraud’ to ‘Create Global Government’

Congressman Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), a senior member of the House Science Committee, used a portion of his time at a town hall this week to launch into a rant about global warming, which he described as a plot by liberals to “create global government to control our lives.”

The congressman prefaced his remarks by noting that he wanted to respond to comments from Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who said recently that ongoing wildfires in Southern California have been exacerbated by a dry season that is the result of climate change. Rohrabacher, speaking Thursday afternoon before the Newport Mesa Tea Party, then launched into a discussion about how the science of global warming has been promulgated by a cabal of scientists, liberal politicians and United Nation “global government” types. These forces, who would like to usurp American liberty, could even be from Nigeria, he warned (partial transcript below, emphasis added):

[…]

Youtube Video

MARS!!

67 The Mountain That Blogs  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:03:54pm

re: #63 FemNaziBitch

I have to wonder what would happen if Black Men walked in Carrying?

The very rapid adoption of stricter gun laws.

68 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:03:59pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

The list of stores to frequent grows smaller every day.

Can make freakn’ coffee, I can’t make a new leg.

69 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:04:02pm
70 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:04:30pm

This made me Laugh Out Loud

71 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:08:57pm

re: #64 Amory Blaine

The list of stores to frequent grows smaller every day.

You think that stores that don’t allow open carry have customers who don’t conceal carry—illegally?

There are guns everywhere —even when you can’t see them.

72 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:09:11pm

Once upon a time the right would have hated to be compared with Russia.

Now, a good number would vote for Putin if he were a viable Presidential candidate.

73 freetoken  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:11:11pm

In Iowa, Rick Santorum Rails Against Hollywood

[…]

The former Pennsylvania senator has been warning Iowans this week that the “culture shapers” in Hollywood are “out there telling lies.” And he asserted that younger Americans were increasingly spending more time on their smart phones than going to church or with family.
“It’s no wonder young people overwhelmingly are supporting the other side,” he said, “because they don’t know the truth.”

[…]

“You let things come into your house through television that you would never let walk through your front door,” he told a crowd of several hundred in Rock Rapids, Iowa.

[…]

PHONES!!

74 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:11:33pm

re: #71 FemNaziBitch

You think that stores that don’t allow open carry have customers who don’t conceal carry—illegally?

There are guns everywhere —even when you can’t see them.

CC keeps a 5-yr old from running up and making a grab while you’re defending the crullers.

75 darthstar  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:13:09pm
76 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:13:41pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

CC keeps a 5-yr old from running up and making a grab while you’re defending the crullers.

I understand that.

The point being that just because you can see the gun (with open carry) doesn’t mean that those are the only guns.

People, I think, are afraid of the wrong thing or the wrong situation.

77 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:13:51pm

CC or OC I don’t much mind. What’s stupid is the “appreciation day” and parading around looking like a bunch of yahoos. Especially the guy with the shotgun or bringing in an AR-15. Counter productive. Especially holding it at the Newtown Starbucks.

78 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:13:58pm

re: #72 BongCrodny

Once upon a time the right would have hated to be compared with Russia.

Now, a good number would vote for Putin if he were a viable Presidential candidate.

In a heartbeat. They’ll deny it vehemently, but they think America runs best when a theocratic autocrat is in charge.

79 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:14:39pm

re: #77 Gus

CC or OC I don’t much mind. What’s stupid is the “appreciation day” and parading around looking like a bunch of yahoos. Especially the guy with the shotgun or bringing in an AR-15. Counter productive. Especially holding it at the Newtown Starbucks.

The whole thing is stupid, IMHO.

Most people are going to carry or not —regardless of the law

80 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:15:00pm

re: #78 Targetpractice

In a heartbeat. They’ll deny it vehemently, but they think America runs best when a theocratic autocrat is in charge.

Personally, I think Putin’s “Christianity” is a cynical ploy.

81 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:15:28pm

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I think Putin’s “Christianity” is a cynical ploy.

It’s not Christianity, it’s Patriarchy.

82 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:15:51pm

re: #73 freetoken

In Iowa, Rick Santorum Rails Against Hollywood

PHONES!!

SMART PHONES ARE OF THE DEVIL!1!

83 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:16:17pm

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

It’s not Christianity, it’s Patriarchy.

True.

84 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:16:26pm

re: #82 Dr Lizardo

SMART PHONES ARE OF THE DEVIL!1!

I thought Yoga was the devil—no?

85 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:17:40pm

re: #79 FemNaziBitch

The whole thing is stupid, IMHO.

Most people are going to carry or not —regardless of the law

I’ve got a safe full of guns, and I’ve not bothered to get the $20 permit. That’s because I’m not yet terrified of the people around me. Alabama really isn’t Yemen.

86 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:17:46pm

re: #80 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I think Putin’s “Christianity” is a cynical ploy.

True, it’s rather amusing that a hardline guy from the darkest days of Soviet oppression is playing himself up as being a religious guy.

87 Lidane  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:18:10pm
88 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:18:33pm

re: #84 FemNaziBitch

I thought Yoga was the devil—no?

Everything is “the Devil” to some of these folks; they would’ve been far happier in Puritan New England under the governance of Cotton Mather. They’re misfits who can’t adjust to the modern world.

89 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:19:19pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

I’ve got a safe full of guns, and I’ve not bothered to get the $20 permit. That’s because I’m not yet terrified of the people around me. Alabama really isn’t Yemen.

And if it were, would you still bother? At that point, what does the law matter?

I’m so tired of the white dick-waving. There is a Progressive Democratic Black POTUS. Get over it.

90 Lidane  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:19:36pm

re: #84 FemNaziBitch

I thought Yoga was the devil—no?

Yoga, video games, iPhones, teh ghey, wimminz not wearing burqas, etc. It all blends together after a while.

91 Lidane  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:20:54pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

True, it’s rather amusing that a hardline guy from the darkest days of Soviet oppression is playing himself up as being a religious guy.

I think that about all politicians, really.

92 freetoken  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:21:07pm

San Diego mayor to start outpatient therapy

Maybe someone should inform Bob that Zona Norte is not an approved health care facilty.

93 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:21:13pm

re: #72 BongCrodny

Once upon a time the right would have hated to be compared with Russia.

Now, a good number would vote for Putin if he were a viable Presidential candidate.

We should start investigating those reports that Vlad was really born in Alaska while his parents were there spying on US spy planes operating from Eielson Air Force Base. His official bio says he was born in Leningrad to a humble factory worker and a sailor but that’s disinformation: There is no way anyone could rise above their God-given place like that unless liberals and the media intervened, something they weren’t cursed with in Russia. Russia’s loss is our gain.

94 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:21:26pm

re: #88 Dr Lizardo

Everything is “the Devil” to some of these folks; they would’ve been far happier in Puritan New England under the governance of Cotton Mather. They’re misfits who can’t adjust to the modern world.

did you see my Post about Bolivia? The whole article is worth reading. It could be titled: “The Anatomy of Addiction, Power and Control”

95 Lidane  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:22:28pm

re: #92 freetoken

San Diego mayor to start outpatient therapy

Maybe someone should inform Bob that Zona Norte is not an approved health care facilty.

He can do all the therapy he wants AFTER he resigns or gets bounced out on his ass.

This guy is a total fucking sleazebag that’s unfit for office.

96 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:23:01pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

And if it were, would you still bother? At that point, what does the law matter?

I’m so tired of the white dick-waving. There is a Progressive Democratic Black POTUS. Get over it.

Hell, if Alabama became Yemen I could finally talk my wife into leaving.

(I got closer when I proved to her that our county has a higher murder rate than NYC. Still not as big a threat as Dukes of Hazzard drivers.)

97 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:27:30pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Hell, if Alabama became Yemen I could finally talk my wife into leaving.

(I got closer when I proved to her that our county has a higher murder rate than NYC. Still not as big a threat as Dukes of Hazzard drivers.)

See any cars driving around without license plates?

98 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:29:17pm

re: #97 Gus

See any cars driving around without license plates?

This is a sovereign citizen node. I’ve seen cars running around with hand-lettered license plates.

99 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:30:12pm

There is a new offering on Cafe Press

I appreciate your clicking.

100 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:31:02pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

This is a sovereign citizen node. I’ve seen cars running around with hand-lettered license plates.

We took a trip to Tennessee back in the 70s. We were like “did you see that? That car doesn’t have license plates.” More than one.

101 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:32:03pm

I can’t keep up with all this stuff

102 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:32:27pm

re: #100 Gus

We took a trip to Tennessee back in the 70s. We were like “did you see that? That car doesn’t have license plates.” More than one.

Most/many of them have a loaded pistol in the glove box. Legal in most Southern States, as I understand it.

103 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:32:44pm

I will not go to any business outside of a sporting goods store which actively promotes people to carry guns either out in the open or concealed. I am aware that people carry all kinds of things on their person.

104 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:33:48pm

bbl, nap time

105 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:33:53pm

re: #94 FemNaziBitch

did you see my Post about Bolivia? The whole article is worth reading. It could be titled: “The Anatomy of Addiction, Power and Control”

Well, that was some disturbing reading. I just find it hard to imagine such things.

There’s a Sufi retreat near Ludwigshafen, Germany, that I like to go to from time-to-time. It’s definitely focused on things like meditation, prayer, reflection, etc.; but they have TV, WiFi internet, and they love sitting around during the evening meal to talk about what’s going on in the world. They’re not at all isolated, nor do they isolate themselves from the wider world.

106 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:35:01pm

re: #105 Dr Lizardo

Well, that was some disturbing reading. I just find it hard to imagine such things.

There’s a Sufi retreat near Ludwigshafen, Germany, that I like to go to from time-to-time. It’s definitely focused on things like meditation, prayer, reflection, etc.; but they have TV, WiFi internet, and they love sitting around during the evening meal to talk about what’s going on in the world. They’re not at all isolated, nor do they isolate themselves from the wider world.

Yeah, it’s still haunting me.

107 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:36:19pm


Operation Husky! :D

108 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:37:26pm

re: #103 Amory Blaine

I will not go to any business outside of a sporting goods store which actively promotes people to carry guns either out in the open or concealed. I am aware that people carry all kinds of things on their person.

Got no problem with competent adults OC or CC if they have a risk-managed reason. If you’re taking the day’s receipts to the bank after dark in a crime area, you’re rational. If you take a shotgun to a suburban bakery at high noon, you’re an idiot.

109 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:39:33pm

re: #107 Gus

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Operation Husky! :D

Speaking of which.

110 Lidane  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:43:16pm

Gotta love that charitable spirit of giving:

111 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:43:52pm

Image: B-24Ds_fly_over_Polesti_during_World_War_II.jpg

112 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:44:26pm

re: #109 Gus

Speaking of which.

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That is a great link. Thanks!

113 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:45:17pm

re: #112 Stanley Sea

That is a great link. Thanks!

Lots of great pics too.

114 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:48:13pm

re: #110 Lidane

Gotta love that charitable spirit of giving:

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There’s a lot more going on there than the news/intertubes can likely convey. For instance, why are they paid more than a Sony intern?

115 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:49:30pm
116 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:59:34pm

re: #113 Gus

Lots of great pics too.

Hell, reading this entry The horror of the Hamburg bombing

Friedrich Reck-Malleczewen, a Prussian aristocrat, had always been a critic of the Nazis. He would eventually die for his outspokenness. After all the shocks of the war even he was shaken by this new mass destruction, sensing that it was a turning point in the history of humanity:

The news from Hamburg is simply beyond the grasp of the imagination - streets of boiling asphalt into which the victims sank and were boiled alive, veritable cities of ruins, which cover the dead and surround those still alive like some jagged stone martyr’s crown. The talk is of 200,000 dead.
I am not one who believes everything he is told. I much prefer seeing the thing for myself. And I think that in this case what I have seen with my own eyes suffices.

I have heard a great deal about the completely wild and disoriented behaviour of people in Hamburg as the city burned, stories of amnesia, stories of people wandering through the streets in the pyjamas they had on when they fled from their houses, crazy-eyed, carrying an empty bird cage, with no memory of a yesterday, and no idea of a tomorrow.

And now this is what I saw on a burning-hot day in early August at a little railroad station in Upper Bavaria, where forty or fifty of these miserable people were milling about, scrambling, despite the angry roars of the station-master, into a car through a window they had broken, pushing, kicking, yelling, accustomed by now to fighting for space.

What happened then was inevitable. A suitcase, a miserable lump of cardboard with edges broken off, missed the target, fell back to the platform and broke open, revealing its contents. There was a pile of clothes, a manicure kit, a toy. And there was the baked corpse of a child, shrunk to the proportions of a mummy, which the half-crazed woman had dragged along with her, the macabre remains of what only a few days before had been a family.

That led to this - A Diary of a Man in Despair

amazon.co.uk

Going to buy it.

117 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:05:05pm

re: #114 Decatur Deb

There’s a lot more going on there than the news/intertubes can likely convey. For instance, why are they paid more than a Sony intern?

because that scratched up toaster oven you gave to gave to Goodwill for them to sell is worth more that Walkmans nowadays!!

118 Flounder  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:08:35pm

re: #110 Lidane

There is a little more to it than paying an individual with disabilities pennies on the dollar. If I had a son or daughter who was permanently disabled, and they had an opportunity to get out of their group home and use their hands and minds, I wouldn’t think twice about it. Also, SS disability sets a minimum amount you can earn, when you cross that thresh-hold you lose SS benefits. But of course, how the hell can I defend something as awful sounding as getting paid slave labor without getting down dinged? oh well.

119 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:09:44pm

re: #118 Flounder

how the hell can I defend something as awful sounding as getting paid slave labor without getting down dinged

you didn’t!

:)

120 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:10:23pm

re: #116 Stanley Sea

Hell, reading this entry The horror of the Hamburg bombing

That led to this - A Diary of a Man in Despair

amazon.co.uk

Going to buy it.

Crazy war with compelling stories, heroism, mad men, and imagery. By the time it was over close to 60 million people died around the world.

121 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:10:24pm
122 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:11:31pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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Is that a Plymouth?

123 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:11:32pm

Hit a nerve.

124 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:11:43pm
125 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:12:02pm

re: #118 Flounder

There is a little more to it than paying an individual with disabilities pennies on the dollar. If I had a son or daughter who was permanently disabled, and they had an opportunity to get out of their group home and use their hands and minds, I wouldn’t think twice about it. Also, SS disability sets a minimum amount you can earn, when you cross that thresh-hold you lose SS benefits. But of course, how the hell can I defend something as awful sounding as getting paid slave labor without getting down dinged? oh well.

It’s a good story for learning the capacity of the media for nuance. The facts look bad, the purpose and results might be good. We’re not likely to find out from FB and Twitter. Old media, with a eyeball-collection profit motive, might be worse.

126 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:12:09pm
127 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:12:41pm

re: #121 Charles Johnson

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I wonder whats going on in the back of that station wagon!

128 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:12:54pm

re: #123 Charles Johnson

Hit a nerve.

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Data editor of the Guardian.

129 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:14:24pm

re: #122 Gus

Is that a Plymouth?

I think it’s a Plymouth Volare.

130 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:14:46pm

re: #128 Gus

Data editor of the Guardian.

Yup.

131 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:15:02pm

re: #127 sattv4u2

I wonder whats going on in the back of that station wagon!

DAs are being mussed.

132 Flounder  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:15:17pm

re: #119 sattv4u2

The safety vests my company buys comes from the Industry for the Blind. They do damn fine work, but it still gives me the willies thinking about a blind person using a sewing machine, I mean how can they keep their hands away from the needle! (Childhood trauma doesn’t help either, my mom stabbed herself a few times.)

133 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:15:21pm

Yet another wise old man.

Image: 129cc4b32505edd65d970ab611f1d2a0.jpeg

//

134 Flounder  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:16:51pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Good eye, are you ever wrong?!

135 Decatur Deb  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:17:02pm

re: #132 Flounder

The safety vests my company buys comes from the Industry for the Blind. They do damn fine work, but it still gives me the willies thinking about a blind person using a sewing machine, I mean how can they keep their hands away from the needle! (Childhood trauma doesn’t help either, my mom stabbed herself a few times.)

OSHA has an app for that:

Image: 100_5376.jpg

136 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:17:05pm

re: #132 Flounder

a blind person using a sewing machine, I mean how can they keep their hands away from the needle

You’d be amazed.

I was behind a van of a store that sells window shades the other day

Sign right on the van stated BLIND MAN DRIVING!!!

:)

137 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:19:23pm

re: #134 Flounder

Good eye, are you ever wrong?!

You can believe me, because I never lie and I’m always right.

— George Tirebiter

138 Gus  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:20:51pm

Hasta later.

139 darthstar  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:30:48pm
140 engineer cat  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:37:58pm

re: #139 darthstar

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if hillary runs, it seems, she will win. if she doesn’t run, then if christie runs, he will win

which all leads me to believe that neither of them will be on the ballot in nov 2016

141 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:40:01pm
142 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:46:07pm

Just for Charles…
Youtube Video

143 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:49:17pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

I think it’s a Plymouth Volare.

re: #134 Flounder

Good eye, are you ever wrong?!

I don’t think so

iirc, the back windows on the Volare wagons included a small vent window to the rear of the regular window.

(not that it matters, just remembering my youth)((and not that I was even that young in the 80’s!!)))

144 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:52:36pm
145 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:53:19pm

re: #144 Charles Johnson

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Thats either one very large Batman ,,,, or one kinda smallish elephant

146 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:55:34pm
147 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 2:58:47pm

Evening Lizardim from the cool and clear wild north country. It’s practically fall here, and I’ve been loving the change in the weather. How go things among the lizardfolk?

148 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:01:12pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

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Notice how the fans are dressed. Fedoras,, top coats or sport jackets ,,, dress shirts

No F*** YOU A-Rod t-shirts!!

nice !

149 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:06:38pm

re: #127 sattv4u2

I wonder whats going on in the back of that station wagon!

Bible study of course! ;)

150 engineer cat  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:08:28pm

re: #148 sattv4u2

Notice how the fans are dressed. Fedoras,, top coats or sport jackets ,,, dress shirts

No F*** YOU A-Rod t-shirts!!

nice !

what’s the name for those youth who are rebelling against the stifling informality of Today’s Modern World of Today by wearing black suits, white shirts, and sneakers?

151 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:09:05pm

re: #150 engineer cat

what’s the name for those youth who are rebelling against the stifling informality of Today’s Modern World of Today by wearing black suits, white shirts, and sneakers?

hep cats!?!?!
/

152 engineer cat  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:10:07pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

hep cats!?!?!
/

hey, daddy-o!

154 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:12:45pm

Check out what the stalkers are doing in the comments for this post about George Duke, that I tweeted yesterday:

news-releases.theurbanmusicscene.com

155 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:13:36pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

How terrible. I hope they get the help they need.

156 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:14:37pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

Check out what the stalkers are doing in the comments for this post about George Duke, that I tweeted yesterday:

news-releases.theurbanmusicscene.com

Charming.

158 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:19:22pm
159 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:20:18pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

I didn’t see any bad posts. Maybe they were taken down?

Edit: Holy shit using your name to post. How disgusting.

160 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:21:06pm

re: #159 Amory Blaine

I didn’t see any bad posts. Maybe they were taken down?

There’s a comment with my name on it. Still posted when I load the page.

161 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:22:31pm

I also posted a comment to Scott Galloway, to let him know what was going on, but his comments are moderated and it’s not showing up yet.

162 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:22:32pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

There’s a comment with my name on it. Still posted when I load the page.

Yeah it’s still there. The one about the van that is.

163 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:22:58pm

What total fuckstains.

164 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:23:10pm

Fucking unbelievable.

165 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:23:23pm

Yeah I just saw that. Dispicable.

166 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:26:27pm

Honestly, I don’t understand what kind of human being would do something like that.

167 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:28:02pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

PHOENIX — A northern Arizona family that was lost at sea for weeks in an ill-fated attempt to leave the U.S. over what they consider government interference in religion will fly home Sunday.

Hannah Gastonguay says she and her husband “decided to take a leap of faith” when they took their two small children and her father-in-law then set sail from San Diego for the tiny island nation of Kiribati in May.

Idjits.

re: #157 Targetpractice


From the story:

Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials. The State Department was not available for comment.

Well, I am available for comment. The taxpayers now have to foot the bill to bring these nutburgers back to the country they risked their children’s lives to leave. I agree with Targetpractice, it was child abuse and they should be arrested as soon as they get off the plane.

168 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:31:05pm

They don’t handle rejection well. Still haven’t gotten over it.

They probably never will.

169 alpuz  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:31:30pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

The fucked up kind.

170 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:31:34pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

I wonder if they tried the Ecuadorian embassy first?

171 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:31:41pm

re: #26 Gus

OT

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That scenario looks like a question from the Voight-Kampff test. “You enter a coffee shop. There’s a 45 year-old man smiling and holding a shotgun in the ready position.”

172 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:33:18pm

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

From the story:

Well, I am available for comment. The taxpayers now have to foot the bill to bring these nutburgers back to the country they risked their children’s lives to leave. I agree with Targetpractice, it was child abuse and they should be arrested as soon as they get off the plane.

At the very least, a child abuse investigation is warranted. What they did was not only irresponsible, it was unmitigated stupidity.

And why didn’t they just hop on a plane to Kiribati? There are aiports on Kiribati, hell, they even have two domestic airlines; Air Kiribati and Coral Sun Airways. How do I know that? By looking on Wikipedia - it took me less than 30 seconds to find that out.

173 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:35:02pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I don’t understand what kind of human being would do something like that.

Arrogant guys who degrade women, wear funny beards, drive SUVs, wave guns, and spend their every waking moment in fear of being targeted by Obama’s drones.
Not, not Al Qaeda terrorists; Tea Partiers.

174 freetoken  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:35:33pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Shall we assume that since they are from northern AZ and fled for their religion, that they may want to be polygamists?

175 alpuz  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:36:57pm

re: #168 Carlos Diggler

Did you ever experience their antics over at Think Progress back in the day? These folks ain’t right in the head. Seriously screwed up individuals.

176 Carlos Diggler  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:46:14pm

In what strange world is Brian Fischer a ‘homosexual expert?’

I thought he was just a bigot.

177 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:48:09pm

re: #176 Carlos Diggler

In what strange world is Brian Fischer a ‘homosexual expert?’

I thought he was just a bigot.

He’s an expert in bigotry, which, for the anti-homosexual crowd, is perfect.

178 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:50:11pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

re: #167 Shiplord Kirel

Sorry, but there’s no way of asserting that. 1st off, the article states a small boat, not a canoe or a raft like Tom Hanks made in Castaway. Many people (families) take ‘small boats” from the west coast to Hawaii or further,,, from New England to the Bahamas,,,, from North America to Central and/ or South America

Mock them for their “religious freedom” wish? Perhaps, but again, it’s speculation at best as to what they were looking for/ running from

179 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:54:03pm

re: #176 Carlos Diggler

In what strange world is Brian Fischer a ‘homosexual expert?’

I thought he was just a bigot.

I wonder what kind of school you have to take to get your certification in that?

Is there a syllabus? How about a Dean’s List?

Does his business card read “Brian Fischer, Homosexual Expert”?

180 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:57:05pm
181 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:58:23pm

re: #178 sattv4u2

Sorry, but there’s no way of asserting that. 1st off, the article states a small boat, not a canoe or a raft like Tom Hanks made in Castaway. Many people (families) take ‘small boats” from the west coast to Hawaii or further,,, from New England to the Bahamas,,,, from North America to Central and/ or South America

Mock them for their “religious freedom” wish? Perhaps, but again, it’s speculation at best as to what they were looking for/ running from

The article doesn’t state as to whether either of the adults were experienced sailors, and you’re quite right that many folks take small boats from the West Coast to Hawaii and whatnot. But personally, even if I were an experienced sailor, I would be very reluctant to take two small children on an transpacific voyage, given all the things that can go wrong at sea.

And again, they could’ve easily hopped a plane to their destination. It might have meant a couple of transfers along the way, granted, but it’s quicker and to be honest, much less dangerous, especially where small children are concerned.

The article does state that the family attempted to leave over what they perceived of as “government interference in religion”, though that is somewhat vague. I imagine when they get back, they’ll no doubt be interviewed by local media, and then perhaps there will be more specificity.

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 3:59:27pm

re: #172 Dr Lizardo

At the very least, a child abuse investigation is warranted. What they did was not only irresponsible, it was unmitigated stupidity.

And why didn’t they just hop on a plane to Kiribati? There are aiports on Kiribati, hell, they even have two domestic airlines; Air Kiribati and Coral Sun Airways. How do I know that? By looking on Wikipedia - it took me less than 30 seconds to find that out.

My guess (having experience with people who think like this) is that they went for the boat over a plane because they had to bring a lot of their stuff with them and they needed to economize.
I can actually visualize it: boat too small for Pacific Ocean travel, overloaded with “important stuff we absolutely need to bring with us”, and no one actually knows how to navigate a boat in the ocean.
(please note that I am not casting aspersions on their asparagus about their ocean-going expertise because Arizona is just right next door to the Pacific Ocean…)

183 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:00:21pm

re: #181 Dr Lizardo

And again, they could’ve easily hopped a plane to their destination

OR ,, maybe that wanted to, oh, I don’t know, have their BOAT available to them if they were going to be living on an island!!

184 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:01:41pm

re: #166 Charles Johnson

Honestly, I don’t understand what kind of human being would do something like that.

Now fixt.

185 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:03:08pm

re: #183 sattv4u2

And again, they could’ve easily hopped a plane to their destination

OR ,, maybe that wanted to, oh, I don’t know, have their BOAT available to them if they were going to be living on an island!!

That’s true, and certainly a consideration.

If it were me, I would’ve flown the family to Kiribati, flown back stateside, got the boat and then sailed it to my destination.

More likely however, I would’ve sold the boat, hopped a plane, then purchased a boat locally on Kiribati.

186 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:04:32pm

re: #182 Backwoods_Sleuth

My guess (having experience with people who think like this) is that they went for the boat over a plane because they had to bring a lot of their stuff with them and they needed to economize.
I can actually visualize it: boat too small for Pacific Ocean travel, overloaded with “important stuff we absolutely need to bring with us”, and no one actually knows how to navigate a boat in the ocean.
(please note that I am not casting aspersions on their asparagus about their ocean-going expertise because Arizona is just right next door to the Pacific Ocean…)

Sadly, I can visualize that as well. A small boat, meant more for inland lakes and rivers, being used to cross the Pacific. Of course it can be done, as nothing is impossible, but I’d want a bigger boat for that sort of thing.

187 Single-handed sailor  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:13:39pm

I have no problem with people who want to sail the ocean. Many families are into the cruising lifestyle. If I had been rich I’d have taken my family around the world in a boat. I met a guy who sailed a 21 foot sailboat to the Marquesas and back.

188 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 4:18:05pm

And here’s another thing the article states that’s vague

Their flights home were arranged by U.S. Embassy officials

Doesn’t mention if they’ll end up being charged for those flights, if they already haven’t been

189 Ming  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 6:27:57pm

re: #7 austin_blue

Well, Bryan, if you support crushing Gubmint oversight, you might as well hang with the experts.

Yes, absolutely, Putin is an expert on crushing, murderous, omnipresent government bureaucracy and dictatorship. He used to be a KGB agent, the real thing. I’ll never forget when he called the USSR collapse “the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century”.

I don’t know if Bryan Fischer can begin to comprehend who and what, exactly, he’s aligning himself with.

190 Ming  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 7:02:05pm

re: #36 Decatur Deb

If Starbucks thinks I’d ever take my grandkids into a place like that, they’re doing something stronger than Kona blend.

re: #37 Gus

They also held one in Newtown, CT but they closed early.

Terrible people. Guns in your face in Newtown Connecticut is inexcusable. Scary that such crummy people exist, and are armed. Reminds me when a Tucson-area Republican Party branch raffled off a Glock — the same type of gun used to shoot Congresswoman Gabby Giffords.


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