Appalling Incident at Missouri State Fair: “Anyone Want to See Obama Run Down By a Bull?”

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Right wing racism just keeps getting more and more overt. Here’s the latest absolutely disgusting example, reported by the Kansas City Star: Shameful Missouri State Fair Stunt Smears Obama.

The taxpayer-supported Missouri State Fair is getting a lot of negative publicity in social media Sunday afternoon following a report of a shameful stunt that reportedly occurred Saturday night in Sedalia.

The story is posted to Daily Kos and Show Me Progress. And look for reaction with #MoStateFair on Twitter.

Basically, a clown wearing a mask of President Barack Obama came out during the bull riding event. The crowd was asked if it wanted to see Obama “run down by a bull.”

Perhaps not surprisingly given the anti-Obama feeling in rural Missouri and among the kinds of people who largely attend the state fair, things got worse from there.

Egged on by the crowd and the announcer, “One of the clowns ran up and started bobbling the lips on the mask and the people went crazy. Finally, a bull came close enough to him that he had to move, so he jumped up and ran away to the delight of the onlookers hooting and hollering from the stands.”

Show Me Progress has the Facebook post from the witness to this appalling incident:

Last night, Lily and I took a student from Taiwan to the rodeo at the Missouri State Fair. Just prior to the start of the bull riding event, one of the clowns came out dressed in this. The announcer wanted to know if anyone would like to see Obama run down by a bull. The crowd went wild. He asked it again and again, louder each time, whipping the audience into a lather. One of the clowns ran up and started bobbling the lips on the mask and the people went crazy. Finally, a bull came close enough to him that he had to move, so he jumped up and ran away to the delight of the onlookers hooting and hollering from the stands. We then left quickly and quietly. Lily’s student is an inquisitive boy and asks a lot of questions about what he sees, and though he had never been to a rodeo he asked nothing about it, nor anything about America this time. We rode the sixty miles home in silence. In a way I’m glad. I had no answers for him.

(h/t: James.)

UPDATE at 8/11/13 3:51:24 pm

From the Missouri State Fair Facebook page:

The performance by one of the rodeo clowns at Saturday’s event was inappropriate and disrespectful, and does not reflect the opinions or standards of the Missouri State Fair. We strive to be a family friendly event and regret that Saturday’s rodeo badly missed that mark.

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262 comments
1 [deleted]  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:43:54pm
2 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:44:04pm

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3 bratwurst  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:47:45pm

But there was a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE made about assassinating George W. Bush!

4 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:47:47pm

Has NSA identified everyone in the crowd yet?
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5 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:48:21pm

How embarrassing. I’m sure they meant it and are not sorry about it. Cheek to jowl with these people, all of my life!!!

6 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:48:59pm

re: #4 Shiplord Kirel

Has NSA identified everyone in the crowd yet?
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Yes, but the guy collating UTM coordinates is dragging ass.

7 Interesting Times  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:50:41pm

re: #5 prairiefire

How embarrassing. I’m sure they meant it and are not sorry about it. Cheek to jowl with these people, all of my life!!!

Well, now I know why Todd “legitimate rape” Akin figured he still had a chance to win - if one’s surrounded by people like this, it’s easy to believe everyone else holds the same troglodyte beliefs.

8 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:56:03pm

This was not what I expected to see when I logged on this afternoon, but I can’t say I’m terribly surprised. What the hell is wrong with these people.

9 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:57:45pm

There’s the “loyal opposition” in action. Fucking idiots and I bet their excuse will be the usual YOU SENSITIVE PC LIBTARDS. But yeah what a pathetic joke.

10 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:58:03pm

re: #3 bratwurst

But there was a HOLLYWOOD MOVIE made about assassinating George W. Bush!

Iirc, the producers were duly pilloried, skinned, and hung out to dry here, and the lizardoid minions feasted on their gamy buttocks.

11 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 12:58:21pm

re: #7 Interesting Times

Well, now I know why Todd “legitimate rape” Akin figured he still had a chance to win - if one’s surrounded by people like this, it’s easy to believe everyone else holds the same troglodyte beliefs.

That race was much closer than it should have been. Scary to think that if Akin doesn’t open his fat mouth, he may have had a shot against McAillskill.

12 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:00:35pm

re: #8 thedopefishlives

This was not what I expected to see when I logged on this afternoon, but I can’t say I’m terribly surprised. What the hell is wrong with these people.

When I was a kid studying the Civil War in school, my dad asked me what we were going over in school; so I told him, “The Reconstruction Era”. To which my dad responded, “Problem with that was is that President Johnson shoulda hanged every last SOB who fought on the side of the Confederacy as a goddamned traitor, and America would be a much better place today!”

My dad really disliked the South.

13 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:02:10pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

I told the Mrs. Fish about the current incident in question and she shook her head, sighed, and said, “Well, they did similar things about every other President, too.” Sad thing is, I can’t really disagree with her.

14 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:03:11pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

When I was a kid studying the Civil War in school, my dad asked me what we were going over in school; so I told him, “The Reconstruction Era”. To which my dad responded, “Problem with that was is that President Johnson shoulda hanged every last SOB who fought on the side of the Confederacy as a goddamned traitor, and America would be a much better place today!”

My dad really disliked the South.

They really got off easy. I think it’s part of why the Lost Cause was able to prosper over the years.

15 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:04:35pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

I told the Mrs. Fish about the current incident in question and she shook her head, sighed, and said, “Well, they did similar things about every other President, too.” Sad thing is, I can’t really disagree with her.

It’s true that this isn’t really new - but the sheer scale of the hatred directed at Obama is unprecedented, and much of it is overtly racist.

16 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:07:27pm

re: #14 HappyWarrior

They really got off easy. I think it’s part of why the Lost Cause was able to prosper over the years.

They did; if the North had occupied the South the way we did post-WWII Germany and Japan, combined with something analogous to the de-Nazification efforts, the “Lost Cause” mythos would no longer be around, and the South would likely be a very different place.

17 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:07:37pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

It’s true that this isn’t really new - but the sheer scale of the hatred directed at Obama is unprecedented, and much of it is overtly racist.

Oh, no, I agree. It’s really been turned up a notch with this particular President, and all because there are some people who just can’t stand the fact that there’s a black man in the White House.

18 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:07:45pm

Shameful Missouri State Fair Stunt Smears Obama THE PRESIDENT.

19 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:08:12pm

re: #13 thedopefishlives

I told the Mrs. Fish about the current incident in question and she shook her head, sighed, and said, “Well, they did similar things about every other President, too.” Sad thing is, I can’t really disagree with her.

What other Black president have we ever had?

20 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:08:13pm

I have to admit, I really though after Obama got elected that things would get better. But sadly Obama’s mere presence in the WH has been enough to bring out the worst racism in people. You see it in the Republican base, you see it with their politicians, and you see it with right wing pundits. It’s not that they disagree with President Obama, they find him fundamentally not American and the most pathetic thing is as we saw with the bigots in Arizona, they blame him personally for the divide when they don’t want to look at their own bigotries. I swear we’re going to look back and look like ghouls for how some of us treated this president. I am proud I voted for him twice not just because his opponents would have been worse but I think Barack Obama has done a lot of good for this country as president.

21 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:11:10pm

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

They did; if the North had occupied the South the way we did post-WWII Germany and Japan, combined with something analogous to the de-Nazification efforts, the “Lost Cause” mythos would no longer be around, and the South would likely be a very different place.

The worst thing that was done was the election of 1876. Hayes agreeing to end Reconstruction in exchange with the Democrats dropping their complaints about the possibly stolen election. Agh, it’s why we had to wait to the early 60’s to finally have meaningful legislation on Civil Rights. I’m a proud Virginian but I’m not proud of Virginians like Lee. I’m proud of Virginians like Washington, George C. Marshall, and others. We celebrated Lee and Jackson on the same day well into my lifetime and I’ll never get why. Too many people here want to fight a war that was fought before many of our ancestors got here.

22 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:12:02pm

re: #20 HappyWarrior

’s OK. It was always there, but now we* can see it again.

* “We” does not include Chief Justices of the Supreme Court.

23 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:13:04pm

re: #22 Decatur Deb

’s OK. It was always there, but now we* can see it again.

* “We” does not include Chief Justices of the Supreme Court.

or the other four jokers sigh. Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Alito, and Kennedy are utterly clueless to how the South is when it comes to race.

24 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:14:27pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

When I was a kid studying the Civil War in school, my dad asked me what we were going over in school; so I told him, “The Reconstruction Era”. To which my dad responded, “Problem with that was is that President Johnson shoulda hanged every last SOB who fought on the side of the Confederacy as a goddamned traitor, and America would be a much better place today!”

My dad really disliked the South.

Southern Unionists really got the short end of the stick after Reconstruction, all in the name of “national reconciliation.” According to the Lost Cause mythology, they were “scalawags,” opportunists and defeatists. By the time of Gone With the Wind in the ’30s, this view was accepted as fact. Sam Houston was probably the most prominent anti-Confederate southerner but there were many others. Appalachia was a particular hotbed of Union sentiment, and there were several open rebellions against Confederate rule. This was successful in western Virginia, leading to the new state of West Virginia, but there were others and they were often ruthlessly suppressed by the Confederate authorities. At best, the hill people supported the Confederacy only grudgingly and with much evasion of service. The reasons for this resistance are simple: There were few slaves in the hills and the locals had no stake in slavery. Combine this with their traditional dislike of lowland aristocrats, and the stage was set for civil war within civil war.

25 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:15:02pm

That scene would have sent me walkin’ out the gate. Disgusting.

26 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:16:08pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

Southern Unionists really got the short end of the stick after Reconstruction, all in the name of “national reconciliation.” According to the Lost Cause mythology, they were “scalawags,” opportunists and defeatists. By the time of Gone With the Wind in the ’30s, this view was accepted as fact. Sam Houston was probably the most prominent anti-Confederate southerner but there were many others. Appalachia was a particular hotbed of Union sentiment, and there were several open rebellions against Confederate rule. This was successful in western Virginia, leading to the new state of West Virginia, but there were others and they were often ruthlessly suppressed by the Confederate authorities. At best, the hill people supported the Confederacy only grudgingly and with much evasion of service. The reasons for this resistance are simple: There were few slaves in the hills and the locals had no stake in slavery. Combine this with their traditional dislike of lowland aristocrats, and the stage was set for civil war within civil war.

That’s why I always defend West Virginia when people act like WV is just a bunch of inbred hicks. They had enough honor and decency to believe secession wrong. And you’re absolutely right. No one ever talks about the Southern Unionists. People here venerate Robert E. Lee for staying loyal to his state but I’ll take fellow Virginian George Thomas who remained loyal to his country. And let’s not forget the countless immigrants who showed more loyalty to their new homeland than the “natives.”

27 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:19:06pm

re: #24 Shiplord Kirel

Southern Unionists really got the short end of the stick after Reconstruction, all in the name of “national reconciliation.” According to the Lost Cause mythology, they were “scalawags,” opportunists and defeatists. By the time of Gone With the Wind in the ’30s, this view was accepted as fact. Sam Houston was probably the most prominent anti-Confederate southerner but there were many others. Appalachia was a particular hotbed of Union sentiment, and there were several open rebellions against Confederate rule. This was successful in western Virginia, leading to the new state of West Virginia, but there were others and they were often ruthlessly suppressed by the Confederate authorities. At best, the hill people supported the Confederacy only grudgingly and with much evasion of service. The reasons for this resistance are simple: There were few slaves in the hills and the locals had no stake in slavery. Combine this with their traditional dislike of lowland aristocrats, and the stage was set for civil war within civil war.

The Confederacy, if it had been successful in gaining its independence through force of arms, wouldn’t have lasted all that long in my opinion. There was too much internal strife, and a lack of cohesion at its “national” level, that would have ultimately doomed the entire endeavor to failure.

28 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:20:30pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

That’s why I always defend West Virginia when people act like WV is just a bunch of inbred hicks. They had enough honor and decency to believe secession wrong. And you’re absolutely right. No one ever talks about the Southern Unionists. People here venerate Robert E. Lee for staying loyal to his state but I’ll take fellow Virginian George Thomas who remained loyal to his country.

I had a friend of mine in high school who fancied himself a Texan and we debated vigorously on Civil War history. When he learned that I was born a mountaineer, he glared at me and called me a traitor. I’d never really been proud of my state of origin before then.

29 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:20:55pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

The Confederacy, if it had been successful in gaining its independence through force of arms, wouldn’t have lasted all that long in my opinion. There was too much internal strife, and a lack of cohesion at its “national” level, that would have ultimately doomed the entire endeavor to failure.

The only thing that might have kept the Confederacy together would be the understanding that it fell apart, the Union would be quick to snap up any states that left. And they could not hope to get out of as easily as they did with Reconstruction.

30 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:21:37pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

The Confederacy, if it had been successful in gaining its independence through force of arms, wouldn’t have lasted all that long in my opinion. There was too much internal strife, and a lack of cohesion at its “national” level, that would have ultimately doomed the entire endeavor to failure.

I have to agree. One of the ironies of the CSA is Davis faced a lot of heat for being too centralized.I think eventually some states would have broken off from the CSA over inevitable disagreements and hell perhaps even some regions within states since after all Eastern Tennessee was unionist territory as were parts of Northern Alabama.

31 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:22:46pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

I had a friend of mine in high school who fancied himself a Texan and we debated vigorously on Civil War history. When he learned that I was born a mountaineer, he glared at me and called me a traitor. I’d never really been proud of my state of origin before then.

Something funny about that heh.

32 Danforth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:22:49pm
(McCaskill v. Akin) was much closer than it should have been.

On the contrary: while the last polls had them close, the final tally showed McCaskill winning by 16 points. One friend was a poll worker who was stunned (along with all her colleagues) at how many ballots were (R) up and down the line…except for Senator.

One other item of note from her: none of the ballot inspectors ever made a single mention of affiliations.

33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:23:02pm

Side note: I’m a severely novice botany enthusiast (was unexpectedly given a habanero plant as a gift in the spring, and that somehow sparked an interest in all things vegetational) and this fucking heat (100+ for several straight weeks now) is murdering my plants. Being an apartment dweller, my options are limited. If I keep them out on the balcony, they wilt in a matter of minutes. If I keep them indoors, they don’t get enough sunlight.

Also, I’ve recently developed a HUGE colony of fungus gnats. I don’t know where the hell this came from. Most of the remedies I’ve found on line haven’t been effective. I’m eager to try this one, in no small part because the viciousness of it seems somewhat satisfying, given how annoying the gnats are:

A biological control option for control of fungus gnat larvae is applications of certain insect parasitic (or entomopathogenic) nematodes as a drench to the growing medium. Insect parasitic nematodes are microscopic roundworms that enter fungus gnat larvae through natural openings such as the mouth, anus and breathing pores. The nematodes emit a bacterium that digests the internal contents of the larvae. Fungus gnat larvae die within three to four days. The nematode species Steinernema feltiae is particularly effective against fungus gnat larvae.

HELL YES! I wanna go all David Cronenberg on their asses. Not sure how to acquire these microscopic nematodes of doom, however.

34 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:23:53pm

re: #32 Danforth

On the contrary: while the last polls had them close, the final tally showed McCaskill winning by 16 points. One friend was a poll worker who was stunned (along with all her colleagues) at how many ballots were (R) up and down the line…except for Senator.

One other item of note from her: none of the ballot inspectors ever made a single mention of affiliations.

Oh I didn’t realize she won by that much. I guess Akin went too far even for many of his fellow Republicans.

35 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:24:57pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I have to agree. One of the ironies of the CSA is Davis faced a lot of heat for being too centralized.I think eventually some states would have broken off from the CSA over inevitable disagreements and hell perhaps even some regions within states since after all Eastern Tennessee was unionist territory as were parts of Northern Alabama.

I figure that in that particular alternative history - one where the CSA wins its independence - the CSA would’ve imploded sometime shortly before WWI in the timeline we all recognize, maybe even as early as the turn of the 20th century or a couple of years afterwards.

36 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:24:59pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

Something funny about that heh.

Yeah, my friend was something of an interesting personality. We haven’t talked much over the years since we parted ways, but he hasn’t changed much.

37 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:25:10pm

Missouri governor: @GovJayNixon

38 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:25:27pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

I have to agree. One of the ironies of the CSA is Davis faced a lot of heat for being too centralized.I think eventually some states would have broken off from the CSA over inevitable disagreements and hell perhaps even some regions within states since after all Eastern Tennessee was unionist territory as were parts of Northern Alabama.

In the last few days I’ve seen a mention of a Union Tennessee cavalry regiment. The report, or one linked, said that every Confederate state provided at least one named regiment to the Union. Then there’s the Free State of Jones—one of several.

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39 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:26:29pm

re: #35 Dr Lizardo

I figure that in that particular alternative history - one where the CSA wins its independence - the CSA would’ve imploded sometime shortly before WWI in the timeline we all recognize, maybe even as early as the turn of the 20th century or a couple of years afterwards.

Ever heard of Harry Turtledove?

40 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:27:00pm

re: #26 HappyWarrior

That’s why I always defend West Virginia when people act like WV is just a bunch of inbred hicks. They had enough honor and decency to believe secession wrong. And you’re absolutely right. No one ever talks about the Southern Unionists. People here venerate Robert E. Lee for staying loyal to his state but I’ll take fellow Virginian George Thomas who remained loyal to his country.

Being of Appalachian hill-folk extraction myself, I’ve often wondered if the conflict over Unionism in the hills was a factor in the subsequent vilification of “hillbillies” by lowland Southerners. This prejudice was subsequently spread nationwide with the success of “reconciliation” and its supporting myth of the Lost Cause.
I have a habit of posting Tennessee Ernie Ford’s rousing rendition of Marching Through Georgia whenever the Lost Cause and neo-Confederate agitation comes up. Some southerners find it disconcerting that the purely southern Ford could offer such a heartfelt performance of a famous Union marching song, one that glorifies a campaign that is demonized as an atrocity by over-sensitive slaver apologists to this day. I don’t know for sure, but it may be significant that Ford was from Bristol County, Tennessee, a noted pro-Union hotspot during the Civil War.

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41 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:28:17pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Ever heard of Harry Turtledove?

Oh, yeah; he’s well-known as an alt-history writer. Southern Victory is one his themes.

One alt-history that doesn’t get a lot of mention is German Victory in WWI. I found darkly humorous the alt-history in “Watchmen”, where South Vietnam becomes the 51st State of America.

42 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:29:22pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel

Being of Appalachian hill-folk extraction myself, I’ve often wondered if the conflict over Unionism in the hills was a factor in the subsequent vilification of “hillbillies” by lowland Southerners. This prejudice was subsequently spread nationwide with the success of “reconciliation” and its supporting myth of the Lost Cause.
I have a habit of posting Tennessee Ernie Ford’s rousing rendition of Marching Through Georgia whenever the Lost Cause and neo-Confederate agitation comes up. Some southerners find it disconcerting that the purely southern Ford could offer such a heartfelt performance of a famous Union marching song, one that glorifies a campaign that is demonized as an atrocity by over-sensitive slaver apologists to this day. I don’t know for sure, but it may be significant that Ford was from Bristol County, Tennessee, a noted pro-Union hotspot during the Civil War.

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That is something interesting to think about. I never really thought about it but honestly given that the CSA leadership was its core very aristocratic and elitist, it wouldn’t shock me at all,

43 thedopefishlives  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:30:02pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

I would hasten to add that I am a mountaineer purely by circumstance, not by descent; fish country is a good ways west of the mountains and flatlands of West Virginia. It just happened to be where my dad was able to find work before finally getting back to his roots. Didn’t make much of a difference to my friend, though.

44 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:30:43pm

re: #28 thedopefishlives

I had a friend of mine in high school who fancied himself a Texan and we debated vigorously on Civil War history. When he learned that I was born a mountaineer, he glared at me and called me a traitor. I’d never really been proud of my state of origin before then.

I guess he really hates Sam Houston.

45 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:32:48pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

That is something interesting to think about. I never really thought about it but honestly given that the CSA leadership was its core very aristocratic and elitist, it wouldn’t shock me at all,

As a quirk, it’s barely arguable that the US Constitution language is ‘soft’ on secession. The Confederate constitution specifically calls for a
permanent union.

46 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:33:02pm

re: #41 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah; he’s well-known as an alt-history writer. Southern Victory is one his themes.

One alt-history that doesn’t get a lot of mention is German Victory in WWI. I found darkly humorous the alt-history in “Watchmen”, where South Vietnam becomes the 51st State of America.

German Victory in WWI was one of the stand-alones he did as part of his Crosstime Traffic series, titled Curious Notions.

47 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:33:16pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Steinernema feltiae sounds strangely erotic.

48 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:33:42pm

The Facebook post about the visiting Taiwanese student kind of reminded me that when Ho Chi Minh visited the US, he witnessed lynching and even wrote an article about it.

archives.econ.utah.edu

Shame that some Americans haven’t moved forward.

And yes, I understand that mocking President Obama at a state fair is not the same as murdering Black men, but the sentiment seems to be the same.

49 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:36:06pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

German Victory in WWI was one of the stand-alones he did as part of his Crosstime Traffic series, titled Curious Notions.

I’ll have to check that out. I did read one that he wrote with Richard Dreyfuss, the actor, called “The Two Georges”. It was an interesting take on alt-history, and I enjoyed it. The alt-history of German Victory in WWII is pretty common, with books like “Fatherland” being among the best of that trope.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:38:11pm

Btw, Houston’s refusal to sign the Articles of Secession led to his removal as governor. He was replaced by none other than Francis Lubbock, whose brother, Confederate bushwhacker Tom Lubbock, was the namesake of the community where I still live.
Frank Lubbock himself was a devoted Confederate bitter-ender:

During his tenure, he supported Confederate conscription, working to draft all able-bodied men, including resident aliens, into the Confederate States Army.

When Lubbock’s term ended in 1863, he joined the Confederate Army and was appointed to a lieutenant colonel’s position, serving under Major General John B. Magruder. By 1864, Lubbock was promoted to aide-de-camp for Jefferson Davis. Following the Confederacy’s military collapse Lubbock fled from Richmond, Virginia with Davis. They were soon caught by Union troops in Georgia. He was imprisoned at Fort Delaware for eight months before being paroled.

51 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:38:25pm

Union sympathy in NC. ourstate.com

52 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:38:26pm

re: #49 Dr Lizardo

I’ll have to check that out. I did read one that he wrote with Richard Dreyfus, the actor, called “The Two Georges”. It was an interesting take on alt-history, and I enjoyed it. The alt-history of German Victory in WWII is pretty common, with books like “Fatherland” being among the best of that trope.

He’s wrote a few interesting ones alone the way. Two others in that series are The Gladiator, about a USSR victory in the Cold War, and The Disunited States of America where the arguments over how to word the Constitution saw it’s failure and all the states remaining separate countries.

53 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:39:38pm

re: #40 Shiplord Kirel

Tennessee Ernie Ford’s rousing rendition of Marching Through Georgia

It never ceases to amaze me that the music of the Civil War, both now and at the time it was happening, is nearly always concerned with chivalry, gallantry, ‘honor’, and other such bullshit; while destruction, chaos, hostility, and murder on a vast scale are pretty much ignored. When it’s addressed at all, it’s draped in coy euphemisms.

54 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:40:38pm

re: #52 Targetpractice

He’s wrote a few interesting ones alone the way. Two others in that series are The Gladiator, about a USSR victory in the Cold War, and The Disunited States of America where the arguments over how to word the Constitution saw it’s failure and all the states remaining separate countries.

Those sound interesting as well; I’ll have to check those out, too.

55 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:42:37pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Side note: I’m a severely novice botany enthusiast (was unexpectedly given a habanero plant as a gift in the spring, and that somehow sparked an interest in all things vegetational) and this fucking heat (100+ for several straight weeks now) is murdering my plants. Being an apartment dweller, my options are limited. If I keep them out on the balcony, they wilt in a matter of minutes. If I keep them indoors, they don’t get enough sunlight.

Also, I’ve recently developed a HUGE colony of fungus gnats. I don’t know where the hell this came from. Most of the remedies I’ve found on line haven’t been effective. I’m eager to try this one, in no small part because the viciousness of it seems somewhat satisfying, given how annoying the gnats are:

HELL YES! I wanna go all David Cronenberg on their asses. Not sure how to acquire these microscopic nematodes of doom, however.

Let me see if I can get Dragon_Lady for ya when she gets back from a run to the store. Might you be able to put in a grow bulb in a light fixture near the plants?

56 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:43:30pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

There’s reason why Sherman curtailed his armies actions when they got to North Carolina.

Georgia and South Carolina got treated justly, so did North Carolina.

57 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:45:56pm

re: #42 HappyWarrior

That is something interesting to think about. I never really thought about it but honestly given that the CSA leadership was its core very aristocratic and elitist, it wouldn’t shock me at all,

Democracy in the Confederacy would have been a joke.

58 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:46:06pm

re: #53 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

It never ceases to amaze me that the music of the Civil War, both now and at the time it was happening, is nearly always concerned with chivalry, gallantry, ‘honor’, and other such bullshit; while destruction, chaos, hostility, and murder on a vast scale are pretty much ignored. When it’s addressed at all, it’s draped in coy euphemisms.

The subject of the song was principally the work of William Tecumseh Sherman, who was not taken in by “chivalry, gallantry, ‘honor’, and other such bullshit;” and who was certainly not given to coy euphemisms.

59 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:48:17pm

re: #51 Justanotherhuman

Great story, so much unknown. Perhaps Fox will do a mini-series.

60 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:48:53pm

Missouri State Fair

@MoStateFair

61 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:49:49pm

re: #56 ProTARDISLiberal

There’s reason why Sherman curtailed his armies actions when they got to North Carolina.

Georgia and South Carolina got treated justly, so did North Carolina.

Sherman’s men had every right to be proud of what they had done. They marched right into the dark heart of slavery and burned it to the ground. They really did “bring the jubilee” and were greeted as liberators by slaves and local unionists alike.

62 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:51:01pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Side note: I’m a severely novice botany enthusiast (was unexpectedly given a habanero plant as a gift in the spring, and that somehow sparked an interest in all things vegetational) and this fucking heat (100+ for several straight weeks now) is murdering my plants. Being an apartment dweller, my options are limited. If I keep them out on the balcony, they wilt in a matter of minutes. If I keep them indoors, they don’t get enough sunlight.

Also, I’ve recently developed a HUGE colony of fungus gnats. I don’t know where the hell this came from. Most of the remedies I’ve found on line haven’t been effective. I’m eager to try this one, in no small part because the viciousness of it seems somewhat satisfying, given how annoying the gnats are:

HELL YES! I wanna go all David Cronenberg on their asses. Not sure how to acquire these microscopic nematodes of doom, however.

D_L sez use Safer Soap for the critters, right into the soil. Better-Can you transplant the plants out of the larvae infested soil in fresh?

63 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:52:11pm

Great op-ed: What Did Edward Snowden Get Wrong? Everything.

64 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:52:51pm

re: #61 Shiplord Kirel

Sherman’s men had every right to be proud of what they had done. They marched right into the dark heart of slavery and burned it to the ground. They really did “bring the jubilee” and were greeted as liberators by slaves and local unionists alike.

There’s a small academic interest is using forensic history to trace the material vs. psychological impact of Sherman. They know just about every place his horses crapped. A zone of claims and stories for burned barns and outrages extends 1-2 hundred miles outside his path.

65 simoom  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:53:58pm

Looks like someone who was there …

66 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:54:50pm

re: #58 Shiplord Kirel

He suffered no such delusions about War. It sometimes is necessary and just, but it is always hell.

And what Sherman’s armies did to Atlanta and Columbia was not unprecedented. Mehmet Ali Pasha (Viceroy-Ruler of Egypt) and Mahmud II (Caliph of the Ottoman Empire, starter of the Tanzimat) ordered the annihilation of Diriyah in 1818 as a result of the horrors the Sauds unleashed in the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia. Including a massacre in Karbala, where the Wahhabi armies butchered 4,000 men, women, and children.

67 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:55:20pm

re: #65 simoom

Looks like someone who was there …

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There might be more than one dumby in that story.

68 simoom  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 1:57:50pm

re: #65 simoom

Another one at around the same time that night:

69 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:01:31pm

re: #63 Charles Johnson

That’s some serious credentials. Two thumbs up.

70 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:01:45pm

No wonder they call Missouri the “Show Me” state. Evidently they don’t have functioning brains.

71 Shiplord Kirel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:03:30pm

re: #66 ProTARDISLiberal

He suffered no such delusions about War. It sometimes is necessary and just, but it is always hell.

And what Sherman’s armies did to Atlanta and Columbia was not unprecedented. Mehmet Ali Pasha (Viceroy-Ruler of Egypt) and Mahmud II (Caliph of the Ottoman Empire, starter of the Tanzimat) ordered the annihilation of Diriyah in 1818 as a result of the horrors the Sauds unleashed in the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia. Including a massacre in Karbala, where the Wahhabi armies butchered 4,000 men, women, and children.

The full quote:

I confess, without shame, that I am sick and tired of fighting — its glory is all moonshine; even success the most brilliant is over dead and mangled bodies, with the anguish and lamentations of distant families, appealing to me for sons, husbands, and fathers … it is only those who have never heard a shot, never heard the shriek and groans of the wounded and lacerated … that cry aloud for more blood, more vengeance, more desolation. -William Tecumseh Sherman, 1865

72 simoom  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:04:30pm

re: #68 simoom

Actually, looking through these tweets over the last week or so:

Kansas (?), Aug 5th:

West Viginia, Aug 8th:

Nebraska, Aug 9th:

Is this the same act doing the rodeo circuit around the country?

73 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:11:34pm

re: #72 simoom

It sounds like it.

74 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:14:55pm

if Obama has lost the Rodeo Demographic, he has no chance at re-election.

75 Balfour Rage  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:16:05pm
76 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:19:50pm

re: #16 Dr Lizardo

They did; if the North had occupied the South the way we did post-WWII Germany and Japan, combined with something analogous to the de-Nazification efforts, the “Lost Cause” mythos would no longer be around, and the South would likely be a very different place.

But the North was tired and had been badly bled, bled more than America has never been bled before or since. Moreover, Andrew Johnson (who became president after Lincoln was assassinated) did not really favor the kind of tough Reconstruction measures that were needed. Congress passed tough laws, but Johnson did not fully enforce them. That gave vigilante groups like the KKK time to get their feet under them, such that the stronger attempts made under US Grant were fatally undermined by outright terrorism.

77 wrenchwench  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:20:57pm

re: #74 Decatur Deb

if Obama has lost the Rodeo Demographic, he has no chance at re-election.

If the local rodeo demographic is indicative, he never had it.

Oh, re-election. Heh.

78 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:21:50pm
79 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:22:35pm

Also.


Blog appears to be run by some Oathkeepers nutcase.

80 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:24:04pm

re: #79 Gus

Also.

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Blog appears to be run by some Oathkeepers nutcase.

Makes sense. That many military aren’t going to screw around with politics in uniform.

81 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:24:36pm
…SINFUL PRIDE AND THE SPIRITUAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE PANOPTICON

First Things first. The fact that these two outspoken comrade academicians advocate for the NSA while publically hailing from a Christian body, the Eastern Orthodox Church, whose Fathers always considered Pride to be the fastest road to Hell can only be called a diabolical irony. The lies that have been told by men who fancied themselves accomplished professional liars only added to the fire.

For example, Prof. Schindler falsely accused one Tweeter of labeling him a Satanist when someone asked him how he feels about electronic panopticons like the NSA’s system figuring in Orthodox views of the End Times, or Eschatology. In other words, the question was: can conducting limitless surveillance be good for a man’s soul? What about advocating for it? What does it profit a man to spy on the whole world but forfeit his soul?

Even President Dwight Eisenhower, in his farewell speech from the White House in 1961, admitted that the military industrial complex can exert ‘even spiritual’ influence over this nation. How much more so now when the capacity exists to collect every aspect of our electronic existence?

If you are reading this and happen to be a Christian, then you know from Revelations 13:16 that the Antichrist can’t force everyone to accept the Mark of the Beast as prophesied without implementing truly global surveillance of every man, woman and child compelling them to submit. So if you are a an Orthodox Christian inclined to mock any discussion of the spiritual implications of surveillance, you’re not unlike the cafeteria Roman Catholics Nancy Pelosi and John Kerry in your approach to the Faith. And while the Book of Revelations is not read during the Orthodox services, as a late addition to the Canon, it is considered inspired Scripture nonetheless….

O_O

82 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:25:51pm

This guy is psycho.

83 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:26:28pm

Yesterday,while on a family outing, we found ourselves behind a truck proudly waiving the Stars and Stripes on one side, and the stars and bars on the other.
I was waiting to see if the truck would flip over from the conflict…
///
People are stupid.

84 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:26:39pm

re: #77 wrenchwench

If the local rodeo demographic is indicative, he never had it.

Feel bad that his family have to wade through this crap, but every banzai attack on the Prez draws fire away from HC or whoever in 2016. We are blessed in the impulses of our opposition.

85 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:27:27pm

re: #71 Shiplord Kirel

The full quote:

And he wasn’t the first to express that sentiment: “Believe me Sir, nothing save a battle lost is more melancholy than a battle won.”

Garrett Arthur Wesley (Duke of Wellington), in a letter sent the day after Waterloo, 1815.

—————————————————————

But Sherman had done all he could to prevent war, but the southerners he was among in Louisiana at the time would not listen. They’d whipped themselves into a fit of paranoia about Abraham Lincoln and the Republican Party, and could not abide any limitations being placed on slavery.

86 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:28:30pm
Blogroll

Cracka Bitter Clinger Slayer Chucky Johnson
Domestic To Be Drone’d List Vrag 1 - Mike Vanderbough
Domestic To Be Drone’d List Vrag 2 - Stewart Rhodes
NSA Committee EmoProg Living in Mom’s Basement
Paulbot Vrag 1 - Rand Paul
Paulbot Vrag 2 - Justin “Al-Libertarian-aeda” Amash

Psycho!

87 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:29:00pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

But the North was tired and had been badly bled, bled more than America has never been bled before or since. Moreover, Andrew Johnson (who became president after Lincoln was assassinated) did not really favor the kind of tough Reconstruction measures that were needed. Congress passed tough laws, but Johnson did not fully enforce them. That gave vigilante groups like the KKK time to get their feet under them, such that the stronger attempts made under US Grant were fatally undermined by outright terrorism.

That’s all quite true; it would’ve required Andrew Johnson to one tough SOB on the South, or alternatively, someone like Thaddeus Stevens to have been President. Hoo boy…..that would’ve been something.

88 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:29:44pm

re: #86 Gus

Just spit-balling here, but perhaps this nut shouldn’t be in the military. He could snap, and that would lead to tragedy.

89 Balfour Rage  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:30:14pm
90 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:38:52pm

re: #88 ProTARDISLiberal

Just spit-balling here, but perhaps this nut shouldn’t be in the military. He could snap, and that would lead to tragedy.

More craziness here:

About John Schindlgruber
Open letter to Profs. Schindler and Nichols from USSA’s zhulty dom

91 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:40:00pm

Zhulty dom?

92 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:42:57pm

re: #91 Gus

Zhulty dom?

Some kind of Russian intel reference, probably. That or one of the new snake cults that are springing up.

93 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:45:39pm

re: #91 Gus

Zhulty dom?

Did he mean “zluty dum”, which means - I think - “golden house”?

94 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:46:37pm

re: #92 Decatur Deb

Some kind of Russian intel reference, probably. That or one of the new snake cults that are springing up.

ZOMG!

THE HEROES WHO STOP A 2nd AMERICAN CIVIL WAR MAY BE IN YOUR CLASSES TODAY

Please consider that one day the Marines in your classes at NWC today may decide their Oath to the Constitution trumps the crazed, unlawful orders of an illegitimate and insane political class, and do what they have to do to restore our Constitutional Republic. The 29 Palms Survey of U.S. Marines conducted in the 1990s regarding domestic gun confiscation and other subjects should give you pause, particularly in fanatically defending an agency that is undoubtedly collecting ‘metadata’ on all lawful firearms purchases for purposes not announced to compartmentalized NSA employees.

As with the evil day when North Dakota missileers would be called on to do their duty, God forbid that our country should sink to that point. [An aside: does it comfort any of you all to know the general who was in charge of Russia’s Strategic Rocket forces publically wept at the late Patriarch Alexus funeral? No?] But your fanatical defense of the Surveillance State is hastening that evil day rather than preventing it. It certainly remains my hope and prayer that civil unrest may be avoided, as I have read too much about the Whites versus the Reds in Russia and our own first Civil War to view this as anything but a disaster and Judgement of a Just God on America.

μολὼν λαβέ !
Publius X - from a long line of Oathkeepers in the military and journalists

95 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:47:58pm

File this one under “What Theocracy?”:

TENN. JUDGE CHANGES CHILD’S NAME FROM ‘MESSIAH’

A judge in eastern Tennessee has changed a 7-month-old boy’s first name to Martin from “Messiah.”

Child Support Magistrate Lu Ann Ballew ordered the name change last week, saying Messiah is a title that has been earned by one person “and that one person is Jesus Christ.”

According to WBIR-TV (ON.WBIR.COM ), the parents were in court because they could not agree on the child’s last name. When the judge heard his first name, she ordered it changed, so the baby was “Martin DeShawn McCullough.”

That name includes both parents’ last name.

The boy’s mother, Jaleesa Martin, says she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique.

Messiah was No. 4 among the fastest-rising baby names in 2012, according to the Social Security Administration’s annual list of popular baby names.

96 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:50:18pm

Here’s the working link to the local tv report on “Messiah”“

wbir.com

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:51:34pm

re: #91 Gus

Zhulty dom?

If you go to Z’ha’dum you will die.

98 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:54:16pm

The reason the judge gives, besides the explicitly theocratic one (i.e., she believes only one person should be called “Messiah”) is that most of the county are “Christian” and the child might have problems in the future.

Where are all the people screaming about SHARIAH!!! when you need them?

99 blueraven  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:54:51pm

re: #96 freetoken

Here’s the working link to the local tv report on “Messiah”“

wbir.com

Naming you child Messiah is pretty stupid and a big burden on the child…but for a judge to change the name is supremely arrogant. Poor kid.

100 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:56:36pm

re: #99 blueraven

I don’t know if it would be a burden on the boy… part of me thinks it’ll help him with women by the time he’s 18.

101 Interesting Times  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:57:59pm

re: #98 freetoken

The reason the judge gives, besides the explicitly theocratic one (i.e., she believes only one person should be called “Messiah”) is that most of the county are “Christian” and the child might have problems in the future.

So the judge lacks similar concerns about this sort of thing?

102 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 2:59:23pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

If you go to Z’ha’dum you will die.

Here’s his Tweet account:

@XXNSAWarProf

And his nutty friends:

@NSAcommittee

@wlynnae1

That last one is pretty whacked too.

103 blueraven  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:01:42pm

re: #100 freetoken

I don’t know if it would be a burden on the boy… part of me thinks it’ll help him with women by the time he’s 18.

I am sure it would cause him some grief…but who knows? In the long run it might make him stronger…like “a boy named sue”

It seems to be a case of clowns to the left, jokers to the right. Child stuck in the middle.

People that end up in court to name a child in the first place is pretty telling.

104 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:03:11pm

re: #100 freetoken

I don’t know if it would be a burden on the boy… part of me thinks it’ll help him with women by the time he’s 18.

Judge could consult his gardener, Jesus.

105 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:06:15pm

OT and weird, but my dog won’t eat. I have been through 4 different kinds of dog food and she won’t eat any of them. This started about a month ago, she completely refused to eat the food she had been on since she was little, she’s almost 4 now. She used to love salmon based food, now I can’t even get her to take salmon oil off a spoon which she used to do without any coaxing.

She has allergies too, to wheat, corn, soy, grasses and pollen and perfumes. I think this comes from the mess we rescued her from, she was pretty close to death when we got her, she had all kinds of parasites, was dehydrated and weak, she had mange and some sort of eczema. She got better, but now her skin is a wreck again and I cannot get her to eat. I just spent 300 bucks at the vet to have them tell me they can find nothing at all wrong with her. She’s biting her feet, scratching at her ears and shaking her head a lot(signs of food allergies). I just got back from PetSmart, AGAIN, this time with a duck based dog food that’s grain free and a venison one for sensitive stomachs.

She’s acting fine except for the biting and scratching, we’ve been doing 2.5 mile walks every morning before it gets hot, she’s drinking plenty of water and peeing, but the most she’s eaten in one day has been around a cup of food(she weighs 75 lbs, a doberman and german shep mix, 50/50) and she’s lost 5 lbs. Does anyone have an idea of how I can stimulate her appetite? This is getting ridiculous, thank god I know the people at PetSmart and they’ve been really great about taking back all these open bags of food while I try to find one she’ll eat. I even tried canned food and she wouldn’t touch it. I know a lot of people here have dogs, I was hoping someone had an idea I haven’t tried yet.

106 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:06:21pm

re: #97 Dark_Falcon

If you go to Z’ha’dum you will die.

BTW, did you break out the BBQ?

107 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:08:31pm

re: #102 Gus

Here’s his Tweet account:

@XXNSAWarProf

And his nutty friends:

@NSAcommittee

@wlynnae1

That last one is pretty whacked too.

Just damn; I took at that last one, and whacked is an understatement. Mental illness is more appropriate.

108 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:10:41pm

Emily Ruppel, connected to the Biologos organization, has a lengthy write-up about a YEC’er slowly being drawn from her previously held literalism:

The Bible, evolution and grace

[…]

Below is the story of Buchanan’s transformation from young Earth creationist to avid supporter of evolutionary theory — as well as a few suggestions for those who wish to inspire similar changes across Kentucky.

“I remember being so angry about it, I wanted to shoot him,” Buchanan said over the phone.

Her voice had been lively and energetic up to this point, but even while perched on the couch in my sunlit living room in Clifton, I could perceive the emotional intensity of her recollection.

The “him” in Buchanan’s statement referred to her husband, chemical engineer Scott Buchanan, many years ago. The “it” recalled Scott’s abandonment of young Earth creationist (YEC) perspectives on Genesis and the history of life on Earth, which both she and he had held since the beginning of their relationship. For years, she had watched as he pored through text after text comparing old Earth creationism (OEC), which accepts the conclusions of consensus science on the Big Bang and the ancient age of the Earth [but not evolution], and YEC, which teaches that the universe was formed by God in a 24-hour-day, six-day creation event.

[…]

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:11:17pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Side note: I’m a severely novice botany enthusiast (was unexpectedly given a habanero plant as a gift in the spring, and that somehow sparked an interest in all things vegetational) and this fucking heat (100+ for several straight weeks now) is murdering my plants. Being an apartment dweller, my options are limited. If I keep them out on the balcony, they wilt in a matter of minutes. If I keep them indoors, they don’t get enough sunlight.

Also, I’ve recently developed a HUGE colony of fungus gnats. I don’t know where the hell this came from. Most of the remedies I’ve found on line haven’t been effective. I’m eager to try this one, in no small part because the viciousness of it seems somewhat satisfying, given how annoying the gnats are:

HELL YES! I wanna go all David Cronenberg on their asses. Not sure how to acquire these microscopic nematodes of doom, however.

Farmer here: fungus gnats are actually pollinators but, as in anything, too much of something can be a bad thing.
They thrive in damp, rich, organic soil, so resist the urge to overwater, even if your pepper plants are wilting.
Nematoids are one control. Another is pyrethrin. Sticky traps are also an option.
My best suggestion, since your peppers are being grown in pots, is to let the soil dry out almost completely between watering. And try bottom watering as opposed to top.

110 RadicalModerate  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:12:01pm

Given the content of this story, and many, many other similar ones - for example the recent “zombie Obama” shooting target - added with elected GOP officeholders making repeated statements, as well as acting on them like the ones in this recent page, how long will it be before this actually comes to pass?

Image: NewOfficialSealRepublicanParty.jpg

111 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:13:28pm
112 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:15:17pm

re: #111 Gus

Rohrbacher has been on quite a crusade this week:

littlegreenfootballs.com

113 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:15:48pm

re: #106 Gus

BTW, did you break out the BBQ?

Not yet, but shortly. Winston/Heywood is to be grilled for dinner tonight. I’ve had the troll carefully refrigerated till now.

114 Kragar  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:15:57pm

Apparently, real patriots love the US so much, they want us to stop being like Russia, while they support everything the Russians are doing and want to destroy the US government.

That is the general message I’m getting from wingnuts nowadays.

115 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:17:51pm


Drones! Drones! They’re everywhere!!!!

116 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:18:40pm

Ready?

117 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:18:44pm
118 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:20:01pm

re: #114 Kragar

They’ve lost their damned minds. Honestly I think Hate ought to be classed as a real mental illness once it hits the point some people have reached.

119 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:20:45pm

re: #117 Gus

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What he really deserves is 11.5 more years in prison. 15 years seems a fair punishment for his misdeeds.

120 erik_t  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:21:02pm

re: #117 Gus

Dafuq does that even mean?

Jesus icefishing Christ.

121 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:21:23pm

re: #117 Gus

Oh COME on. Saint Bradley of Manning, is that what’s next here?

122 RadicalModerate  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:21:57pm

re: #117 Gus

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Wikileaks: A noble idea that went horribly, horribly wrong in its execution.

123 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:22:31pm

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

What he really deserves is 11.5 more years in prison. 15 years seems a fair punishment for his misdeeds.

I was thinking 20 minus time served for 17.

124 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:23:51pm

re: #122 RadicalModerate

Wikileaks: A noble idea that went horribly, horribly wrong in its execution.

The idea was noble, but the person who actually tried to enact it has now perverted it to serve as reinforcement of his own out-of-control ego. Julian Assange is what happens when a man’s ego completely takes over.

125 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:25:11pm

re: #118 A Mom Anon

They’ve lost their damned minds. Honestly I think Hate ought to be classed as a real mental illness once it hits the point some people have reached.

I remember reading something - I’ve forgotten the book - but it was about some anti-Semite whose hatred had reached pathological levels. It detailed how one fine winter day, this fellow was out tracking people who were wearing a particular brand of galoshes which bore a triangle design on the sole.

This chap was convinced that the triangle was representative of the Star of David, and therefore the people wearing these galoshes were part of the “great Zionist conspiracy”, and that by following their tracks in the snow, he could discover where they were holding their “Zionist Overlord” meetings.

Apparently, a true story. I wish I could remember what book I’d read it in, because the mental image of this loon tracking unsuspecting people through the snow in a vain attempt to uncover the “Zionist conspiracy” made me laugh out loud.

126 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:25:23pm

re: #123 Gus

I was thinking 20 minus time served for 17.

That works, but I would give him the lesser sentence as I don’t feel Manning acted out of malice. But that’s just my opinion, YMMV.

127 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:28:26pm

re: #125 Dr Lizardo

I remember reading something - I’ve forgotten the book - but it was about some anti-Semite whose hatred had reached pathological levels. It detailed how one fine winter day, this fellow was out tracking people who were wearing a particular brand of galoshes which bore a triangle design on the sole.

This chap was convinced that the triangle was representative of the Star of David, and therefore the people wearing these galoshes were part of the “great Zionist conspiracy”, and that by following their tracks in the snow, he could discover where they were holding their “Zionist Overlord” meetings.

Apparently, a true story. I wish I could remember what book I’d read it in, because the mental image of this loon tracking unsuspecting people through the snow in a vain attempt to uncover the “Zionist conspiracy” made me laugh out loud.

Zedushka once read some crazy conspiracy book, he was laughing out loud so hard I asked “What’s so funny?” He said this guy “cracked” the “Rothschild’s Seekrit Code”—they wrote to each other in German using Hebrew letters!!11!!!!

128 Lancelot Link  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:28:28pm

re: #111 Gus

Rohrbacher again? What’s that Taliban supporter saying now?

129 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:28:51pm

Rohrabacher voted yes on the first Patriot Act. The original. The big Kahuna.

So I’ll take this as a “I was for the Patriot Act before I was against it because “OBAMA’S EXOTIC” turn around.

130 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:29:40pm
131 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:29:57pm

re: #128 Lancelot Link

Rohrbacher again? What’s that Taliban supporter saying now?

That appears to be some weird website.

132 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:34:10pm

re: #117 Gus

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Well gee, let’s think, how has Bradley Manning promoted peace…oh right, releasing a catalog of classified diplomatic communiques that did nothing but put thousands of lives in danger while making the rest of the world realize that they were right to suspect the US of being involved in the same things they are.

Yeah, I can certainly see how ol’ Alfred Nobel created his prize so that jackasses like Manning could one day be deemed worthy of it. Then again, they did give it to Arafat…

133 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:36:03pm

re: #127 Vicious Babushka

Zedushka once read some crazy conspiracy book, he was laughing out loud so hard I asked “What’s so funny?” He said this guy “cracked” the “Rothschild’s Seekrit Code”—they wrote to each other in German using Hebrew letters!!11!!!!

That would make me laugh out loud as well.

I thought about it, and I might have read that bit about the ‘galoshes conspiracy nutburger’ in “Hitler’s Willing Executioners”; there’s a part of the book where Goldhagen goes into European anti-Semitism of the 19th and 20th centuries and how it changed from a generalized sociocultural/religious prejudice to biological racism.

Frankly, anecdotes such as that, or the one you cited, cause me to immediately think of Pam Geller; her hatred has become a monomaniacal, pathological obsession.

134 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:36:09pm

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

135 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:36:46pm

re: #117 Gus

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They’re looking for legitimacy anywhere they can.

136 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:36:56pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

Oh, did he finally sing his swan song?

137 Kragar  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:37:11pm

Gohmert: Opposition to Obamacare is ‘how we got to the Constitution’

The Founding Fathers’ desire to fuck over the poor and middle class led to the Constitution?

138 Kragar  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:37:30pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

I figure he’s got one on lay away.

139 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:38:05pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

Let him in! Bwahahaha!

140 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:39:30pm

BTW, that “nerve gas” scare earlier? Nail polish remover.

141 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:39:43pm

Which is kinda similar to nerve gas, actually.

142 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:40:19pm

re: #137 Kragar

Gohmert: Opposition to Obamacare is ‘how we got to the Constitution’

The Founding Fathers’ desire to fuck over the poor and middle class led to the Constitution?

No, it was the Founding Fathers resolute opposition to the Stalinism King George III was imposing on the American Colonies through universal health care and making sure that people with pre-existing medical conditions wouldn’t suffer from a lack of health insurance coverage. WHY DO YOU HATE AMERICA?!

143 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:40:32pm

re: #137 Kragar

Gohmert: Opposition to Obamacare is ‘how we got to the Constitution’

The Founding Fathers’ desire to fuck over the poor and middle class led to the Constitution?

What, you didn’t really believe all that “domestic tranquility” and “general welfare” crap, did you?

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144 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:41:29pm

re: #136 Targetpractice

Oh, did he finally sing his swan song?

Charles just got tired of the jerk using the blog Charles created and maintains to insult him.

I’ve currently got the charcoal going and it’ll be Roast Troll for dinner tonight.

145 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:41:59pm

I think it was the giant picture of Glenn Greenwald that really did it.

146 RadicalModerate  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:43:49pm

re: #126 Dark_Falcon

BTW, why the downvote on my #110?

Are you honestly going to claim that there hasn’t been an almost complete takeover of the Republican Party by neo-Confederates and other “race realist”-aligned individuals and groups?

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:44:15pm

re: #66 ProTARDISLiberal

He suffered no such delusions about War. It sometimes is necessary and just, but it is always hell.

And what Sherman’s armies did to Atlanta and Columbia was not unprecedented. Mehmet Ali Pasha (Viceroy-Ruler of Egypt) and Mahmud II (Caliph of the Ottoman Empire, starter of the Tanzimat) ordered the annihilation of Diriyah in 1818 as a result of the horrors the Sauds unleashed in the Arabian Peninsula and Mesopotamia. Including a massacre in Karbala, where the Wahhabi armies butchered 4,000 men, women, and children.

Still doesn’t make it right.
I am so weary of “well, other people did the same thing!” as an excuse.

148 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:47:06pm

re: #146 RadicalModerate

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

I also felt your graphic was inflammatory and a Godwin.

149 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:49:41pm

re: #88 ProTARDISLiberal

Just spit-balling here, but perhaps this nut shouldn’t be in the military. He could snap, and that would lead to tragedy.

My experience has been that the ones who scream the loudest about how they are so gungho warrior military, never served. Or if they did, they were discharged less than honorable.
Sadly, not all. But most.

150 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:50:05pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

“War” is about breaking things and killing people.

If someone doesn’t what things broken and people killed, then they ought not go to war.

Sherman (well, his army) was ruthless and we can judge him/them as such. Yet I look on it as the expected result of what was started. It was not possible for the two cultures (of slaveholding/secessionism and emancipation/union-ism) to coexist any more.

151 RadicalModerate  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:50:29pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

I also felt your graphic was inflammatory and a Godwin.

They’re getting serious pushback, but it isn’t coming from within their own party structure. The whole “rebranding” effort literally fell on deaf ears.

152 erik_t  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:51:17pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

What mainstream GOP politicians, voting blocs or major PACs are pushing back against the neo-confederates?

153 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:51:32pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Are we roasting troll this evening? Who?

154 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:53:12pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

I also felt your graphic was inflammatory and a Godwin.

The GOP is systematically attempting to repress minority vote in many states. Is that getting any pushback at all? I haven’t seen any.

155 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:54:40pm

MO State Fair does the right thing…

From their Facebook page:

The performance by one of the rodeo clowns at Saturday’s event was inappropriate and disrespectful, and does not reflect the opinions or standards of the Missouri State Fair. We strive to be a family friendly event and regret that Saturday’s rodeo badly missed that mark.

156 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:55:23pm

re: #105 A Mom Anon

OT and weird, but my dog won’t eat. I have been through 4 different kinds of dog food and she won’t eat any of them. This started about a month ago, she completely refused to eat the food she had been on since she was little, she’s almost 4 now. She used to love salmon based food, now I can’t even get her to take salmon oil off a spoon which she used to do without any coaxing.

She has allergies too, to wheat, corn, soy, grasses and pollen and perfumes. I think this comes from the mess we rescued her from, she was pretty close to death when we got her, she had all kinds of parasites, was dehydrated and weak, she had mange and some sort of eczema. She got better, but now her skin is a wreck again and I cannot get her to eat. I just spent 300 bucks at the vet to have them tell me they can find nothing at all wrong with her. She’s biting her feet, scratching at her ears and shaking her head a lot(signs of food allergies). I just got back from PetSmart, AGAIN, this time with a duck based dog food that’s grain free and a venison one for sensitive stomachs.

She’s acting fine except for the biting and scratching, we’ve been doing 2.5 mile walks every morning before it gets hot, she’s drinking plenty of water and peeing, but the most she’s eaten in one day has been around a cup of food(she weighs 75 lbs, a doberman and german shep mix, 50/50) and she’s lost 5 lbs. Does anyone have an idea of how I can stimulate her appetite? This is getting ridiculous, thank god I know the people at PetSmart and they’ve been really great about taking back all these open bags of food while I try to find one she’ll eat. I even tried canned food and she wouldn’t touch it. I know a lot of people here have dogs, I was hoping someone had an idea I haven’t tried yet.

Visit to the vet is in order. Something is very VERY wrong, and this is her way of telling you.
Last time this happened to one of my dogs, it was very sudden (like within hours) and turned into a life-threatening condition (pyometra) which would have killed her before the day ended. Turns out, it had been slowly building up for weeks, if not months, but that particular day it reached end game. Fortunately, she survived, but it was difficult.
But really…it’s time for a veterinarian’s opinion.
{{hugs from one dog mom to another}}

157 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:55:25pm

re: #152 erik_t

What mainstream GOP politicians, voting blocs or major PACs are pushing back against the neo-confederates?

Chris Christie does so where and when he can, as does John McCain. And Marco Rubio has held firm on immigration reform despite the attacks from haters.

And this is without reference to the fact that National Review has been on a major anti-Neo Confederate drive as of late, with editor Roch Lowry writing a very pro-Lincoln book.

158 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:57:56pm

There are some people on the Facebook page saying it was no big deal, nothing racist about it, all in good fun, etc. As you’d expect.

159 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:58:07pm

re: #153 PhillyPretzel

Are we roasting troll this evening? Who?

The guy whose real nic was Winston-something but who posted anti-NSA articles on Pages here using a pseudo-nic that was a request for oral sex.

160 erik_t  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:58:39pm

Build the dang fence! ← leadership and pushback against neo-confederate ideas.

161 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 3:58:42pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

I also felt your graphic was inflammatory and a Godwin.

It’s not inflammatory or a Godwin if the examples we see several times a day are true.

I don’t just run into that crap on the internet, I run into it in my everyday life, too.

These people have become emboldened by those who trade on their fears and get elected under the Republican banner.

162 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:00:40pm

re: #148 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I make that claim. The Neo-Confederates are getting serious pushback and they won’t win the day.

I would like to hear the reasons why you think this. I’m not trying to set you up for an argument (not from me, anyway). It’s just that I don’t see this push-back at all (except occasionally from some columnists such as David Frum and the like who are generally personnae non grata with the current rank-and-file GOP, not to mention the leadership) and I would like to understand why you do.

163 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:01:04pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

MO State Fair does the right thing…

From their Facebook page:

Why I appreciate the apology, why wasn’t there any oversight about the “entertainment”?

In my mind, it remains a stain on MO, those who offered it, and those who cheered it on.

164 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:02:30pm

re: #161 Justanotherhuman

It’s not inflammatory or a Godwin if the examples we see several times a day are true.

I don’t just run into that crap on the internet, I run into it in my everyday life, too.

These people have become emboldened by those who trade on their fears and get elected under the Republican banner.

Something can be inflammatory even if it is true, if it has the potential to spark dangerous tensions.

165 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:02:34pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

oh.

166 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:02:56pm

From the MO State Fair Facebook page:

Apparently, Mark Ficken, the rodeo DJ, is known for his race-baiting. He should be barred from all state + county fairs, indeed, all fairs that are at all subsidized by taxpayer dollars!

167 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:03:52pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

It won’t be long till the white-grievance-bait crowd piles on.

168 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:04:04pm

re: #155 Charles Johnson

MO State Fair does the right thing…

From their Facebook page:

Good on them - they certainly did do the right thing.

Now they’re gonna get flamed for it by the wingnut brigades, unfortunately.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:04:11pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

right about now?

170 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:04:54pm
During the day he is mild mannered, Mr. Ficken, Superintendent of Schools, Pettis County R-12 School District in Missouri, but start the music and let the rodeo begin and he becomes Mark Ficken Rodeo Announcer Extraordinaire. Mark has one of the voices you can just listen to all day and never get tired of hearing it.
rodeoattitude.com
171 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:06:48pm

re: #150 freetoken

“War” is about breaking things and killing people.

If someone doesn’t what things broken and people killed, then they ought not go to war.

Sherman (well, his army) was ruthless and we can judge him/them as such. Yet I look on it as the expected result of what was started. It was not possible for the two cultures (of slaveholding/secessionism and emancipation/union-ism) to coexist any more.

agree…I was commenting on using “well other people/cultures also did it” as an excuse.

172 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:09:11pm

So, when I was poking around, I found this:

The older Tempelhofgesellschaft (THG) was built in the 1980s by a few members of the nazi “Erbengemeinschaft der Tempelritter”. The leader of this group was the former police man Hans-Günter Fröhlich who resided in Germany/Homburg. The group had close links to the German-speaking far-right network. Its first publication was “Einblick in Die Magische Weltsicht und die Magischen Prozesse”.

The younger Tempelhofgesellschaft was founded in Vienna in the early 1990s by Norbert Jurgen-Ratthofer and Ralft Ettl to teach a dualist form of Christian religion called Marcionism. This one was a part of the main THG/Homburg. The group identifies an “evil creator of this world,” the Demiurge with Jehovah, the God of Judaism. Jesus Christ was an Aryan, not Jewish. They distribute pamphlets claiming that the Aryan race originally came to Atlantis from the star Aldebaran (this information is supposedly based on “ancient Sumerian manuscripts”). They maintain that the Aryans from Aldebaran derive their power from the vril energy of the Black Sun. They teach that since the Aryan race is of extraterrestrial origin it has a divine mission to dominate all the other races. It is believed by adherents of this religion that an enormous space fleet is on its way to Earth from Aldebaran which, when it arrives, will join forces with the Nazi Flying Saucers from Antarctica to establish the Western Imperium. Its major publication is called Das Vril-Projekt.

After the THG was dissolved, Ralf Ettl founded the Freundeskreis (circle of friends) Causa Nostra. It remains active and maintains relations to far-right publishers like the Swiss Unitall-Verlag.

Sounds reasonable.

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*headdesk*

173 RadicalModerate  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:09:21pm

Awesome. We’re going to be getting these stores in North Texas in the near future.

Meet the Low-Key, Low-Cost Grocery Chain Being Called ‘Walmart’s Worst Nightmare’

While all of these factors help WinCo compete with Walmart on price, what really might scare the world’s largest retailer is how WinCo treats its employees. In sharp contrast to Walmart, which regularly comes under fire for practices like understaffing stores to keep costs down and hiring tons of temporary workers as a means to avoid paying full-time worker benefits, WinCo has a reputation for doing right by employees. It provides health benefits to all staffers who work at least 24 hours per week. The company also has a pension, with employees getting an amount equal to 20% of their annual salary put in a plan that’s paid for by WinCo; a company spokesperson told the Idaho Statesman that more than 400 nonexecutive workers (cashiers, produce clerks, and such) currently have pensions worth over $1 million apiece.

It should also be noted that WinCo has been an employee-owned company since 1985, and there is a rather simple path for new employees to participate:
wincofoods.com

174 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:11:09pm

re: #170 jaunte

Superintendent of a school district, is he? In that case I’d prefer that the Department of Justice look into said district. Some who talks as Ficken does may well mistreat the minority students in his district.

175 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:11:18pm

re: #173 RadicalModerate

Awesome. We’re going to be getting these stores in North Texas in the near future.

Meet the Low-Key, Low-Cost Grocery Chain Being Called ‘Walmart’s Worst Nightmare’

It should also be noted that WinCo has been an employee-owned company since 1985, and there is a rather simple path for new employees to participate:
wincofoods.com

I’ve shopped at WinCo, but it was up in the Pacific Northwest, and it was waaaaay back in the day when it was still known as Cub Foods.

I liked it. Good store, good prices, and I dug the fact that it was employee-owned.

176 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:12:20pm

re: #105 A Mom Anon

OK, I see you’ve taken her to the vet and spent $300 just for them to say they can’t find anything wrong.
First, find another vet for a second opinion.
Second, could it possibly be a flea allergy? Several of our dogs had that and symptoms sound somewhat similar…and all it took was a single flea bite.
Try dosing her with Benadryl. Given her weight, I’d go with an adult human dose. Try it for a week and see what happens.

177 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:13:08pm

Lt. governor Tweeted this earlier. He’s GOP.

178 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:13:45pm

re: #177 Gus

Lt. governor Tweeted this earlier. He’s GOP.

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Good for him.

179 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:13:54pm

Woo-hoo! Rain in the ‘04!

Of course, being Austin, the sun is brightly shining. It’s a little tiny cell.

But rain! Smells great, too.

180 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:14:05pm

re: #177 Gus

Lt. governor Tweeted this earlier. He’s GOP.

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Good.

181 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:15:55pm

We are not condemning the entire state of Missouri. All those in favor say aye.

182 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:16:24pm

I mean come on. That would be like condemning all of Iowa for Steve King.

183 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:17:20pm
184 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:18:31pm

re: #181 Gus

As a Texan, I am strongly opposed to statewide, regional and a third kind of condemnation I can’t quite remember.

185 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:20:03pm

re: #183 Gus

RINO!!11ty

186 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:23:11pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Shall we have a pool on how long before Hey Would You Blow Me? tries to go for the first sock puppet?

He probably already has a whole bunch stashed away.

187 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:23:52pm

re: #182 Gus

I mean come on. That would be like condemning all of Iowa for Steve King.

Or all of Illinois for Joe Walsh.

188 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:25:06pm

So! How many here think that H.P. Lovecraft inadvertently inspired all the modern BS we see on the History channel like Ancient Aliens?

189 Interesting Times  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:25:37pm

re: #179 austin_blue

Woo-hoo! Rain in the ‘04!

Of course, being Austin, the sun is brightly shining. It’s a little tiny cell.

But rain! Smells great, too.

majii (who usually comments in the pages) posted this earlier:

blogs.scientificamerican.com

In a state whose Governor once prayed for rain, a miracle of climate adaptation legislation passed the House of Representatives recently - albeit without actually mentioning “climate change”. Nathanial Gronewold reports for EENews: “To a round of applause, 146 state legislators approved H.B. 4, which would finance a new fund to begin investing in new infrastructure and other projects by dipping into the state’s so-called rainy day fund. The $2 billion that would be taken from the rainy day fund for the water plan is just a down payment toward TWDB’s call for some $53 billion in spending over the next 40 years, $27 billion of which is expected to come directly from the state government.

Of course, the multi-billion-dollar question is whether that new infrastructure will serve the people who need it as opposed to water-pig fracking corps. And of course, while passing this legislation, they just had to throw in a wink-and-nod to the deniers:

“As Mother Nature has reminded us in the last couple of years, we can’t change the weather,” Ritter said at the outset of the hearing, “but with sound science and far-sighted planning, we can conserve and develop supply to meet our future demands.”

190 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:29:35pm

re: #156 Backwoods_Sleuth

She was just at the vet on Friday, they ran tests to the tune of 300 bucks and found nothing wrong. I can’t afford to take her back. I was hoping there was something I could give her to stimulate her appetite. She’s otherwise herself, not lethargic or anything else. There’s nothing in her bloodwork, no masses in her intestines or stomach, she has no parasites, nothing that would explain suddenly not eating.

This is going to be one of those Mom goes Detective things. Ack, because I have SO much free time to do this right now. Sigh.

191 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:38:44pm

re: #190 A Mom Anon

She was just at the vet on Friday, they ran tests to the tune of 300 bucks and found nothing wrong. I can’t afford to take her back. I was hoping there was something I could give her to stimulate her appetite. She’s otherwise herself, not lethargic or anything else. There’s nothing in her bloodwork, no masses in her intestines or stomach, she has no parasites, nothing that would explain suddenly not eating.

This is going to be one of those Mom goes Detective things. Ack, because I have SO much free time to do this right now. Sigh.

OK, see my comment at #176.
More I think about it, the more I’m thinking a flea allergy. My AmStaffs and a couple of other large breed dogs had that and, really, all it took was one stinking flea bite to cause scratching, biting, chewing, hair loss, weight loss and just plain misery. Over-the-counter Benadryl was a lifesaver. They really liked the children’s chewable Benadryl, so read the label for dosage by weight.

ETA: I don’t believe there is a blood test or anything for flea allergies. My vet just went by symptoms and Benadryl was his suggestion. He did give the first dog a shot for that in the office, but every other dog that came up with the symptoms got the Benadryl right away. Now we have all of them on something like Frontline or Advantage year round to avoid the flea problem right off the bat. But I have the Benadryl handy just in case…

192 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:39:34pm

BTW, do you all know what the German word “ficken” means?

And Mark Ficken is called “Dr” on the school district letterhead.

193 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:42:21pm

re: #192 Justanotherhuman

Ficken Rodeo Clowns.

194 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:43:42pm

[Sings Kumbaya…]

[Flips desk.]

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195 Interesting Times  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:44:06pm

re: #192 Justanotherhuman

BTW, do you all know what the German word “ficken” means?

And Mark Ficken is called “Dr” on the school district letterhead.

…just like someone who graduates bottom of his class in medical school :/

196 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:44:53pm

Heywood J. Blockme

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197 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:45:42pm

re: #195 Interesting Times

…just like someone who graduates bottom of his class in medical school :/

And they get elected to Congress in some states….

198 sunnygal  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:47:29pm

re: #173 RadicalModerate

There’s a relatively-new Winco near us where we shop for most of our groceries. It really is much cheaper than other grocery chains (I would never shop at WalMart) and it’s good to know that they treat their employees well.

199 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:50:18pm

re: #191 Backwoods_Sleuth

She’s on Sentinel for heartworms and that has flea protection in it. BUT! we have fire ants, and that could be contributing to the problem. I can’t find bites on her,but she could have chewed them open. I just gave her some Benadryl, I just read it can help stimulate the appetite in some dogs. Thanks for your help, hopefully this will resolve soon. I love this dog as much as my kids, it drives me nuts when something is wrong.

200 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:50:24pm

[Puts on lamp shade.]

201 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:50:33pm

re: #197 Backwoods_Sleuth

And they get elected to Congress in some states….

He’s an even bigger dick than Anthony Weiner.

202 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:51:13pm

re: #196 Gus

Heywood J. Blockme

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Troll Roast is now being served, come and get it!

203 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:51:58pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

::: filling up my plate :::

204 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:52:15pm

Fox’s Shameless Misrepresentation Of SNAP Recipients
Baier: “When A Safety Net Becomes A Hammock”

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s (USDA) Food and Nutrition Service, the fraud and waste rate in SNAP is roughly 1 percent, contrary to recent Fox claims that the program is rife with fraud.

205 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:53:38pm

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

Troll Roast is now being served, come and get it!

Tastes gamey.

206 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 4:54:43pm

re: #205 Gus

What were you expecting? Chateaubriand?

207 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:01:39pm

re: #105 A Mom Anon

OT and weird, but my dog won’t eat. I have been through 4 different kinds of dog food and she won’t eat any of them. This started about a month ago, she completely refused to eat the food she had been on since she was little, she’s almost 4 now. She used to love salmon based food, now I can’t even get her to take salmon oil off a spoon which she used to do without any coaxing.

She has allergies too, to wheat, corn, soy, grasses and pollen and perfumes. I think this comes from the mess we rescued her from, she was pretty close to death when we got her, she had all kinds of parasites, was dehydrated and weak, she had mange and some sort of eczema. She got better, but now her skin is a wreck again and I cannot get her to eat. I just spent 300 bucks at the vet to have them tell me they can find nothing at all wrong with her. She’s biting her feet, scratching at her ears and shaking her head a lot(signs of food allergies). I just got back from PetSmart, AGAIN, this time with a duck based dog food that’s grain free and a venison one for sensitive stomachs.

She’s acting fine except for the biting and scratching, we’ve been doing 2.5 mile walks every morning before it gets hot, she’s drinking plenty of water and peeing, but the most she’s eaten in one day has been around a cup of food(she weighs 75 lbs, a doberman and german shep mix, 50/50) and she’s lost 5 lbs. Does anyone have an idea of how I can stimulate her appetite? This is getting ridiculous, thank god I know the people at PetSmart and they’ve been really great about taking back all these open bags of food while I try to find one she’ll eat. I even tried canned food and she wouldn’t touch it. I know a lot of people here have dogs, I was hoping someone had an idea I haven’t tried yet.

Go to another vet and have them rule out mast cell cancer, unfortunately I’ve seen it firsthand. Mast cells kick out tons of histamines, which why MSC cause these symptoms. At four years old your dog is a little young but if that’s what it is you need to diagnose as soon as possible. You’ll need to pay for a fine needle aspirate test where they’ll take some of the dog’s blood and examine it under a microscope. Even if it’s not MSC your dog might have ulcers from another cause, the treatment that worked for my dog was Sucralfate, you can buy it in pills or as a suspension. It’s kind of expensive. As for the skin allergies and itching, dogs respond very well to Diphenhydramine (Benedril), at 75 lbs I think your dog could take 2-3 pills twice a day (obviously double check with your vet.)

One last thing. A sick dog’s favorite food is boiled or steamed chicken breast. Just pure bland white meat, plain, cut into chunks. Mix with a cup full of boiled rice.

208 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:02:24pm

re: #199 A Mom Anon

She’s on Sentinel for heartworms and that has flea protection in it. BUT! we have fire ants, and that could be contributing to the problem. I can’t find bites on her,but she could have chewed them open. I just gave her some Benadryl, I just read it can help stimulate the appetite in some dogs. Thanks for your help, hopefully this will resolve soon. I love this dog as much as my kids, it drives me nuts when something is wrong.

oh, wonderful! I do hope the Benadryl helps!
Fire ants…that’s REALLY bad.
{{major hugs}}

209 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:02:50pm

re: #205 Gus

Tastes gamey.

needs mohr sauce…

210 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:05:57pm

Hilarity to ensue.

211 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:08:13pm
The program is being described as a conservative counterpunch to Media Matters, the Obama-linked organization that focuses on silencing conservatives in the media. “For too long, we’ve played by the Marquis of Queensberry rules, allowing the left to stifle the truth and silence truth tellers in the name of their politically correct narrative. Now we’re taking the battle to their home turf — and we will do so aggressively and unwaveringly, every single day.

Even without material!

212 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:09:18pm
213 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:09:41pm

OT: Need some help from the Lizard collective.

I am currently working on a poetry book (To be published as an ebook) called The Cross and the Mountain and I’m in the process of finding a suitable cover image. I’ve isolated two I think have potential, both original photos shot by my wife in Colorado this past spring.

Let me know which one you think it should be.

The first photo

The second photo

Bear in mind neither photo has been cropped, formatted, edited, etc. yet.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

214 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:11:57pm

re: #211 jaunte

Even without material!

I always love it when wingnuts get all puffed up with outraged victimhood and boast about how they’re gonna fight back real dirty this time. So cute!

215 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:11:58pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

Are you going to overlay text on the images?

216 bratwurst  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:12:15pm

At least Heywood now has more time to trade emails with “a few producers at MSNBC and the Comedy Chanell” (sic) regarding his hilarious and insightful observations about Snowden and the NSA.

217 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:12:15pm

Just saw the Missouri State Fair’s facebook update to the post. Not good enough. What are they going to do about those who put on this display? Will they be banned from performing in the future?

218 Interesting Times  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:13:23pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

I am currently working on a poetry book (To be published as an ebook) called The Cross and the Mountain and I’m in the process of finding a suitable cover image. I’ve isolated two I think have potential, both original photos shot by my wife in Colorado this past spring.

Let me know which one you think it should be.

The first photo

Image: crossmountain2_zps3e70cede.jpg

The second one is already in portrait orientation, thus making it more suitable for a book cover. It also has large areas of solid or similar colors, thus making it easier to (as freetoken says) overlay text on top of it.

219 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:14:00pm

re: #216 bratwurst

At least Heywood now has more time to trade emails with “a few producers at MSNBC and the Comedy Chanell” (sic) regarding his hilarious and insightful observations about Snowden and the NSA.

Oh God that was so weird.

220 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:14:24pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

…a conservative counterpunch to Media Matters, the Obama-linked organization that focuses on silencing conservatives in the media…

My interpretation of Media Matters is that they’re mostly publicizing, pointing and laughing at the stuff conservatives are saying, but it doesn’t seem to be silencing anyone.

221 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:14:35pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

The first image is more compelling, as a visual work.

Too much blank white on the left, but if you are going to put in text, such as your author name, then it can find a use.

re: #218 Interesting Times

Yes, that is the advantage of the second image

222 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:16:15pm
223 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:16:40pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: Need some help from the Lizard collective.

I am currently working on a poetry book (To be published as an ebook) called The Cross and the Mountain and I’m in the process of finding a suitable cover image. I’ve isolated two I think have potential, both original photos shot by my wife in Colorado this past spring.

Let me know which one you think it should be.

The first photo

The second photo

Bear in mind neither photo has been cropped, formatted, edited, etc. yet.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

I’m always going to go with snow. Plus the bridge is inviting me into the picture.

224 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:17:24pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

I like the dramatic diagonals in the second.

225 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:18:01pm

re: #210 Charles Johnson

Congrats @Benshapiro - go get em man! Shapiro to Launch Anti-Media Matters Counterpunch with Horowitz shar.es
Hilarity to ensue.

The name of the Web site: TruthRevolt.org. Do these people not get irony?

226 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:18:23pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

A Jim DeMint’s masterpiece no doubt.

227 Stanley Sea  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:19:15pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

#1 = my vote

228 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:20:26pm

re: #225 Iwouldprefernotto

The name of the Web site: TruthRevolt.org. Do these people not get irony?

Too angry.

229 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:20:30pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Yes folks, defunding Obamacare, such a noble quest that the GOP is ready to plunge the nation into a worse economic downturn than the Great Recession out of the crazed belief that the public will see their side!

230 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:20:47pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

Funny, there’s not a word on the page about why they think we should defund Obamacare.

231 jaunte  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:22:01pm

Come on everybody, back to your uninsured pre-existing conditions!!!

232 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:22:45pm

re: #230 jaunte

Funny, there’s not a word on the page about why they think we should defund Obamacare.

THE SHERIFF PRESIDENT IS A NI-CLANG!!11ty

233 Targetpractice  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:25:10pm

re: #230 jaunte

Funny, there’s not a word on the page about why they think we should defund Obamacare.

Because admitting that they already lost one election over the “REPEAL!” BS won’t work and acknowledging that people aren’t going to agree to allowing their insurance or the insurance of their loved ones be canceled because the GOP wants to deny the black president one of the major accomplishments of his administration.

234 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:25:14pm

re: #231 jaunte

I wonder how many of the people who will show up at these gatherings are on social security?

235 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:26:48pm

re: #225 Iwouldprefernotto

The name of the Web site: TruthRevolt.org. Do these people not get irony?

The real problem is that the entire web site will be a collection of highly edited acorn type videos.

236 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:26:53pm

Wise words:

Image: EZBCCNU.jpg

237 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:29:35pm

re: #27 Dr Lizardo

The Confederacy, if it had been successful in gaining its independence through force of arms, wouldn’t have lasted all that long in my opinion. There was too much internal strife, and a lack of cohesion at its “national” level, that would have ultimately doomed the entire endeavor to failure.

Indeed. How could a country based on the principle ‘If I don’ wanna I don’t haveta’ last very long?

238 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:29:43pm

re: #236 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Wise words:

Image: EZBCCNU.jpg

I am so stealing that!

239 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:33:30pm

re: #238 Justanotherhuman

I am so stealing that!

It’s my favorite Jefferson Reagan quote, definitely.

240 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:35:04pm

re: #215 freetoken

Are you going to overlay text on the images?

Yes, I’m going to need a title and author name on there. Wouldn’t be much of a cover otherwise. :P

241 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:36:16pm
242 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:36:31pm

Garbage. Still freaking awesome.

243 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:38:00pm

According to Dana Rohrabacher, senior Republican on the House science committee, the authors of the following statement are part of giant government-scientist conspiracy to deprive you of your transportation choices:

American Geophysical Union Releases Revised Position Statement on Climate Change

The American Geophysical Union today released a revised version of its position statement on climate change. Titled “Human-induced Climate Change Requires Urgent Action,” the statement declares that “humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years” and that ”rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes.” AGU develops position statements to provide scientific expertise on significant policy issues related to Earth and space science. These statements are limited to positions that are within the range of available geophysical data or norms of legitimate scientific debate.

[…]

Human-induced climate change requires urgent action.

244 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:38:41pm

re: #242 Gus

Garbage. Still freaking awesome.

Taken out of context, that might have been disturbing, however…

245 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:39:29pm

re: #243 freetoken

According to Dana Rohrabacher, senior Republican on the House science committee, the authors of the following statement are part of giant government-scientist conspiracy to deprive you of your transportation choices:

American Geophysical Union Releases Revised Position Statement on Climate Change

Human-induced climate change requires urgent action.

No good Liberal Obama cronies!

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:39:30pm

re: #213 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: Need some help from the Lizard collective.

I am currently working on a poetry book (To be published as an ebook) called The Cross and the Mountain and I’m in the process of finding a suitable cover image. I’ve isolated two I think have potential, both original photos shot by my wife in Colorado this past spring.

Let me know which one you think it should be.

The first photo

The second photo

Bear in mind neither photo has been cropped, formatted, edited, etc. yet.

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

Both are very nice, but I like the first one best.

247 freetoken  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:41:33pm

re: #240 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes, I’m going to need a title and author name on there. Wouldn’t be much of a cover otherwise. :P

I played with the portrait image a bit. If you totally desaturate it, make it quite light, and add some sharpening, it makes for a good background to then add text (the title) that spills down the rim of the big cliff on the left, either following the slope or just falling off the edge. The lower right pile of rocks also can be a good background for “poetry by ….”.

The thing to remember is that background should not be the tone as the text, which makes text hard to read.

248 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:42:42pm
249 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:44:25pm

Shit.

Father kills son, himself at YWCA offices in NH

bigstory.ap.org

Why do they have to kill the kids when they do this?

250 Gus  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:44:38pm
251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 5:48:30pm

re: #221 freetoken

The first image is more compelling, as a visual work.

Too much blank white on the left, but if you are going to put in text, such as your author name, then it can find a use.

Yes, that is the advantage of the second image

FWIW, for my book, I chose a portrait orientation, but my publisher chose a landscape version. The cover photo wrapped around front to back, so the landscape one worked for that.

252 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 8:08:49pm

re: #105 A Mom Anon

OT and weird, but my dog won’t eat. I have been through 4 different kinds of dog food and she won’t eat any of them. This started about a month ago, she completely refused to eat the food she had been on since she was little, she’s almost 4 now. She used to love salmon based food, now I can’t even get her to take salmon oil off a spoon which she used to do without any coaxing.

(snip)

A good diagnostic to see if your dog is feeling OK, is:
“do they still want to go for a ride in a vehicle?”
If OK that’s a good thing.

As for the lack of appetite, have you tried pouring a *little* bacon grease over the dry food? I’ve always loved all animals, especially dogs, cause they have always loved me.
And that’s a good thing.

253 theheat  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 8:12:01pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

The sheer hatred runs really, really deep with the so-called cowboys. Uh - and this was not the case with Bush. Their [cowboy] online convergences are pretty scary, and their face-to-face conversations are even worse. I’ve been meaning to post a page dedicated to this, but never seem to have the time to put anything cohesive together. I’m hit between the eyes so often with it, it really makes you rummy.

254 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 11, 2013 9:10:29pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Side note: I’m a severely novice botany enthusiast (was unexpectedly given a habanero plant as a gift in the spring, and that somehow sparked an interest in all things vegetational) and this fucking heat (100+ for several straight weeks now) is murdering my plants. Being an apartment dweller, my options are limited. If I keep them out on the balcony, they wilt in a matter of minutes. If I keep them indoors, they don’t get enough sunlight.

Also, I’ve recently developed a HUGE colony of fungus gnats. I don’t know where the hell this came from. Most of the remedies I’ve found on line haven’t been effective. I’m eager to try this one, in no small part because the viciousness of it seems somewhat satisfying, given how annoying the gnats are:

HELL YES! I wanna go all David Cronenberg on their asses. Not sure how to acquire these microscopic nematodes of doom, however.

I dealt with my fungus gnats by putting a 1/2” or more layer of coarse sand (not play sand - that’s too fine) as the top surface of my pots. The gnats were living on my fungus growing on my potting soil and the sand kept them from being able to get to that - while allowing the water to penetrate through the sand to the soil.

My pots are all indoors, but luckily I have wide window sills and a southern and western corner exposure in my apartment. So the pots get enough sun with the more sun loving plants getting the south windows and the others the west windows. (I have basil, dill, cilantro, thyme, rosemary, catnip, and snap peas all growing currently.)

255 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 9:11:14am
256 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 9:19:54am

re: #255 Wargala

Next.

cbc.ca

257 Interesting Times  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 10:37:31am

Dead-thread stalker derps again 9_9 I wonder if it’s the same one who did this.

258 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 11:19:29am
259 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 11:22:15am

Pathetic.

260 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 12:00:26pm
261 taserian  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 2:10:26pm

re: #222 Charles Johnson

Interesting that he’s avoiding South Carolina. You know, the state that he used to be a senator of until he *quit*.

262 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 12, 2013 9:05:45pm

What an asshole. Get lost, moron.


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