Wikileaks Founder Assange: “I’m a Big Admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul”

Assange also lavishes praise on Matt Drudge and the conservative movement
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Today, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange gave an interview to Campus Reform and revealed that he’s a “big admirer” of the craziest libertarian racists in US politics: Ron and Rand Paul.

Assange says the far right (represented by these two bigoted kooks) is America’s “only hope.”

College-aged support for libertarians and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) represents the United States’ “only hope” in politics, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange told Campus Reform early Friday morning.

“The only hope as far as electoral politics… presently, is the libertarian section of the Republican party,” said Assange, in response to a question about the recent swell of college-aged and youth-based support for libertarianism.

“The libertarian aspect of the Republican Party is presently the only useful political voice really in the U.S. Congress,” said Assange. “[I] am a big admirer of Ron Paul and Rand Paul for their very principled positions in the U.S. Congress on a number of issues.”

And he didn’t stop there; Assange also lavished praise on the ugliest race-baiting right wing news aggregator in the US, Matt Drudge:

Assange, who was speaking in an online video forum, hosted by the transparency organization oursay.org, also praised American Journalist Matt Drudge saying he is responsible for breaking down the “self-censorship” of the American mainstream media.

“Matt Drudge is a news media innovator… It is as a result of the self-censorship of the establishment press in the United States that gave Matt Drudge such a platform and so of course he should be applauded for breaking a lot of that censorship,” said Assange.

It’s not really surprising to see the wacko libertarian left meeting up with the wacko libertarian right, out on the fringes where they belong. But this is Assange’s most direct statement of support yet for the US radical right wing.

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1 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:05:04am

Lol.

2 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:06:20am

re: #1 Varek Raith

Lol.

^ Thread winner

3 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:06:36am

Shocked!

4 darthstar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:09:01am

The highly coveted Assange endorsement. Ha!

5 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:09:10am

DERP!

6 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:09:12am

I expected the whacko fringe-lolbertarian left nutbars to align with RONPAUL!!!1 and his implicit racism.

I admit that did not expect the whacko fringe-lolbertarian left nutbars to align with Matt Drudge and his explicit racism.

7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:10:43am

This has been one of the most painful things about Wikileaks, Snowden, Greenwald, and the rest.

We have a nation where systemic racism routinely deprives blacks, Hispanics, and others of their rights. It is demonstrable, it’s not an argument: black people get longer sentences for the same crimes with the same criminal background than white people do. Black witnesses— as the Zimmerman trial showed— are less often believed. Policies massively affecting black people, like no-knock warrants and stop-and-frisk, affect literally hundreds of thousands of black people per year.

And yet the focus on ‘freedom’ and ‘privacy’ from the civil libertarians is focused on these vague, conspiratorial ideas of the NSA ‘crushing dissent’. It’s the discomfort of the privileged having privilege removed— or even just imagining what that’d be like.

8 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:13:06am
And yet the focus on ‘freedom’ and ‘privacy’ from the civil libertarians is focused on these vague, conspiratorial ideas of the NSA ‘crushing dissent’. It’s the discomfort of the privileged having privilege removed— or even just imagining what that’d be like.

And how Obamacare is taking away LIBERTY and RIGHTS and the IRS “targeting” and NSA spying and….

9 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:13:34am

I’ll be he admires the Koch brothers, too.

10 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:13:49am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

People like Assange and Greenwald are quite content to ignore explicit, virulent racism because it doesn’t affect them or their agenda. It’s the epitome of white privilege.

11 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:15:48am

Face up to those rape charges in Sweden, Assange.

You people are pathetic.

12 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:16:21am

Hey, why not? It’s where all the money is. It’s not like Assange has any principles to sell out.

13 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:17:39am

DERP

14 Dr. Matt  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:17:48am

Moonbats everywhere are suddenly huge Rand Paul fans and have changed their homepage to Drudge.

15 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:18:20am

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They have “solid non-scientific proof”!

16 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:19:46am

re: #14 Dr. Matt

Moonbats everywhere are suddenly huge Rand Paul fans and have changed their homepage to Drudge.

FireDrudgeLake

17 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:22:20am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

JAIL no BAIL!!!

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19 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:22:26am

Drudge is responsible for breaking down self-censorship in news? So it is a thing of the past for most news organizations? That’s not what the nuts are saying elsewhere, or was that just Drudge who isn’t self-censoring?

20 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:22:51am

Insane Rageball Pamela Derping about Metro Detroit bus authority refusing to carry her hate banners:

21 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:23:14am

More whitey dudebro self admiration.

22 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:23:20am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Are there no gulags that can be constructed?!1111?

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23 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:23:42am

Meanwhile, last night I happened to wake up at about 2am and couldn’t sleep, so I checked the thread about the NSA internal audit and discovered a nest of sock puppets ranting at me about “misleading people” — by posting direct quotes.

The quickest way to get banned at LGF is to pull shit like that. And this is after I already let one of them re-register after being banned once, only to watch him post one dishonest comment after another to spread misinformation about the NSA.

Done, done, on to the next one.

24 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:23:52am

re: #18 Kragar

Fox News: ‘There’s No Question That The Polar Bear Is Thriving’

ON WHAT FUCKING PLANET

Jesus Christ this shit pisses me off. Fine, so you hate libtards or whatever. Polar bears are just fucking cool. And they’re all going to starve to death. But fuck that and fuck them, gotta suck that sweet sweet teat of David Koch or whatever.

I don’t fucking get Republicans. I don’t. I just don’t.

25 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:24:54am

re: #18 Kragar

There’re still a couple left, aren’t there??!?!!11?

26 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:25:38am

U.S. Olympic Committee: Athletes Should ‘Comply’ With Russia’s Anti-Gay Law

The best way to comply would be not to attend. We wouldn’t want to offend the Russians by having anyone who would break their law simply by living attend their games.

27 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:27:07am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

DERP

The WashPost reports that NSA violated the law “thousands of times” per year. Question: was anyone prosecuted for such law breaking?
— David Sirota (@davidsirota) August 16, 2013

Those arrest warrants are probably in the same stack as the Wall Street money swindlers warrants. Since laws get changed to make these “crimes” legal now, or at least that shade of gray that confounds the court system.

28 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:27:21am

re: #24 erik_t

I don’t fucking get Republicans. I don’t. I just don’t.

Agreed. They make no damned sense.

29 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:28:03am

re: #27 Eventual Carrion

Those arrest warrants are probably in the same stack as the Wall Street money swindlers warrants. Since laws get changed to make these “crimes” legal now, or at least that shade of gray that confounds the court system.

Mistakes are crimes now?

30 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:31:33am

Are either Pauls going to endorse Assange for the Australian Senate?

31 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:31:54am

re: #24 erik_t

ON WHAT FUCKING PLANET

Jesus Christ this shit pisses me off. Fine, so you hate libtards or whatever. Polar bears are just fucking cool. And they’re all going to starve to death. But fuck that and fuck them, gotta suck that sweet sweet teat of David Koch or whatever.

I don’t fucking get Republicans. I don’t. I just don’t.

That’s where I am at. Watching the Republicans/conservative commenters on LGF basically deny and defend things like racism breaks my brain. And those folks on this blog are supposed to be the sane ones.

The few times I wander over to shit like Gateway Pundit and Free Republic really makes me depressed. It’s like if you want to be an American conservative, at least over the last 5 years, you have to consciously switch off both critical thought and your compassion.

32 AlexRogan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:33:15am

re: #26 Kragar

U.S. Olympic Committee: Athletes Should ‘Comply’ With Russia’s Anti-Gay Law

The best way to comply would be not to attend. We wouldn’t want to offend the Russians by having anyone who would break their law simply by living attend their games.

The IOC and the USOC are fucking spineless and craven.

33 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:34:09am

re: #26 Kragar

U.S. Olympic Committee: Athletes Should ‘Comply’ With Russia’s Anti-Gay Law

The best way to comply would be not to attend. We wouldn’t want to offend the Russians by having anyone who would break their law simply by living attend their games.

Dear Olympic committee:

So much for the power of sports to unite people. Also, fuck you.

Signed,
Humans with a conscience.

34 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:34:21am

re: #31 Mattand

That’s where I am at. Watching the Republicans/conservative commenters on LGF basically deny and defend things like racism breaks my brain. And those folks on this blog are supposed to be the sane ones.

The few times I wander over to shit like Gateway Pundit and Free Republic really makes me depressed. It’s like if you want to be an American conservative, at least over the last 5 years, you have to consciously switch off both critical thought and your compassion.

Heh. Free Republic is the lunatic asylum of the RW’ers. Frankly, the only thing worse is WND and Stormfront, in that order.

35 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:35:25am

re: #30 b.d.

Are either Pauls going to endorse Assange for the Australian Senate?

Well, this post certainly clears the air about how much damned sense it makes for that idiot McCall to have the “Senator Assange” bullshit on his site.

36 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:35:33am

re: #32 AlexRogan

The IOC and the USOC are fucking spineless and craven.

I’ll tell you what: there will be a boycott.

The USOC is welcome to choose whether it will be a boycott by athletes or by viewers.

37 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:36:35am

re: #24 erik_t

I don’t get Republicans either.

I’m not personally very interested in polar bears. Charismatic megafauna really aren’t my thing, I kind of prefer the little critters, but my interest isn’t the point here. I know what it means when polar bears, or frogs, or whatever are in trouble. And I also know that it doesn’t bode well for people either.

38 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:36:55am

I love, lovvvvvvvvvvve, watching curling. I won’t watch Sochi curling.

Sorry, curlers.

39 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:37:36am

re: #29 Vicious Babushka

Mistakes are crimes now?

No, and I am not sure what the Wall Street people were doing were “crimes” in the literal sense of “against the law” since the law that was made to limit their shenanigans had been shredded. Same as these accidental “crimes” by the spooks might not truly be against anything within the gray area for the laws passed for FISA and the NSA to follow. I could be wrong because I lose track of what all the bitching is about all of a sudden after 12 years of it being in effect.

40 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:38:28am

If Assange does win a seat in the Australian Senate does he get a diplomatic passport that will let him go outside?

41 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:38:38am

re: #36 erik_t

I’ll tell you what: there will be a boycott.

The USOC is welcome to choose whether it will be a boycott of athletes or of viewers.

My boycott of viewing is unfortunately symbolic, as I rarely watch the Olympics to being with.

Honestly, the US should boycott the games. Sucks for the athletes, but, come on; Russia basically criminalized homosexuality. As screwed up as the US is about alt lifestyles, even we’re not that homophobic.

42 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:39:04am

That is NOT what the NSA audit says at all. It says explicitly that MOST of the violations reported were unintentional.

Sirota is hallucinating if he thinks the NSA is letting people just walk away free if they violate the law. Seriously, what fucking planet do these people live on?

43 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:39:57am
44 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:40:32am

BBIAB
I have to go finish spreading the compost. Real compost, not Assange’s variety.

45 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:41:07am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

Greenwaldglibertarian, of course.

46 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:41:52am

re: #41 Mattand

My boycott of viewing is unfortunately symbolic, as I rarely watch the Olympics to being with.

Honestly, the US should boycott the games. Sucks for the athletes, but, come on; Russia basically criminalized homosexuality. As screwed up as the US is about alt lifestyles, even we’re not that homophobic.

The IOC should grow a goddamned spine. It shouldn’t even be up to the USOC to make a stand on this issue. In a small way, I feel sorry for them in this context.

Ensuring that the international Olympic games aren’t a glorifying theater for a nation that rejects basic human rights: not a single nation’s job. Kind of the IOC’s job.

47 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:43:12am

re: #43 Carlos Danger

Scott ‘kill the gays’ Lively to stand trial for crimes against humanity

I remember Lively and his partner in crime hate Lon Mabon from the days of the Oregon Citizens Alliance. Creeps. Lively’s got some anger issues; in 1991, he went batshit and assaulted a woman who was filming a lecture he was delivering in a church.

Yes…..Scott Lively assaulted a woman in a church.

48 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:43:50am
49 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:44:01am

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Free Republic is the lunatic asylum of the RW’ers. Frankly, the only thing worse is WND and Stormfront, in that order.

The Seven Circles of Hell Derp

National Review
Drudge
Fox News
Newsmax
Breitbart
WND
Stormfront

50 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:44:21am
Assange, who was speaking in an online video forum, hosted by the transparency organization OurSay.org, also praised American Journalist Matt Drudge saying he is responsible for breaking down the “self-censorship” of the American mainstream media.

“Matt Drudge is a news media innovator… It is as a result of the self-censorship of the establishment press in the United States that gave Matt Drudge such a platform and so of course he should be applauded for breaking a lot of that censorship,” said Assange.

Wow. What little empathy and respect I had for Wikileaks just got redacted big time.

To run an organization that supposedly prizes truth, and yet support a serial ass-hat liar like Drudge, has got to be a new high-water mark for cluelessness.

That, or Assange and Wikileaks is much closer to Fox News than anyone realized.

51 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:44:50am

Can’t tell the difference between Dudebros and RWNJs any more.

52 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:45:08am

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

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THEY’RE A GOD DAMN COVERT INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT.

53 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:45:19am

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

Information should be free, except the kind of information I have, which I’d be happy to sell to you. #greenbeckians

54 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:46:11am

What does Assange mean by “self-censorship”? Does he mean sticking to the fucking facts? Does he mean lying your ass off in a sensationalist manner to get page views?

Just WTF does he mean? And what principles is he talking about when he’s discussing these vile Paul creatures?

55 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:46:33am
56 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:46:36am

re: #46 erik_t

The IOC should grow a goddamned spine. It shouldn’t even be up to the USOC to make a stand on this issue. In a small way, I feel sorry for them in this context.

Ensuring that the international Olympic games aren’t a glorifying theater for a nation that rejects basic human rights: not a single nation’s job. Kind of the IOC’s job.

*Possible Godwin ahead*

Then again, I’m guessing the IOC is the same guys who in the 30’s said, “Ya know, that Hitler seems to be a stout fellow. Let’s give the games to Germany!”

57 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:47:21am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

Can’t tell the difference between Dudebros and RWNJs any more.

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IMPEACH!

I’m still thinking these emoprogs and dudebros are supplying the GOP with a lot of ammo for impeaching Obama. Regardless of the facts. Which is how it sometimes works in GOP land.

58 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:47:39am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

Wasn’t that the dude who got fired from the Washington Post?

59 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:47:52am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

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We already know you’re dishonest at hell, GG, so it’s not necessary that you be “transparent”. We can see right through you already.

60 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:48:00am

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

re: #52 Kragar

Greenbeck has truly mastered the tactic of asking the obvious rhetorical question in such a manner as to discourage the average reader from answering to themselves, “well, yeah.”

61 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:48:22am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

This has been one of the most painful things about Wikileaks, Snowden, Greenwald, and the rest.

We have a nation where systemic racism routinely deprives blacks, Hispanics, and others of their rights. It is demonstrable, it’s not an argument: black people get longer sentences for the same crimes with the same criminal background than white people do. Black witnesses— as the Zimmerman trial showed— are less often believed. Policies massively affecting black people, like no-knock warrants and stop-and-frisk, affect literally hundreds of thousands of black people per year.

And yet the focus on ‘freedom’ and ‘privacy’ from the civil libertarians is focused on these vague, conspiratorial ideas of the NSA ‘crushing dissent’. It’s the discomfort of the privileged having privilege removed— or even just imagining what that’d be like.

They think that stamping sections of the US government related to security and regulation will make them “free” without realizing that there are international consequences and that removing regulation mainly frees the other section of nuts to abuse minority group citizens and the environment.

62 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:49:06am

re: #58 Carlos Danger

Wasn’t that the dude who got fired from the Washington Post?

WaPo pulled the plug on his blog in 2009. Not sure the reason. He can’t be dumber than Jennifer Rubin.

63 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:50:22am

GG Freakout

64 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:51:17am
65 simoom  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:51:34am

Does WaPo document their story corrections anywhere? I remember this also being an issue with Bart Gellman’s earlier Snowden story, where there were constant edits for days but no real transparency for them.

The reason I ask is because I was reading the NYT’s coverage of their story, and apparently they had to issue a correction on their write-up when WaPo made a significant change, but looking at the WaPo story I don’t see any documentation of it anywhere.

nytimes.com

This article has been revised to reflect the following correction:

Correction: August 16, 2013

An earlier version of this article inaccurately portrayed an incident in 2008 involving a mix-up of the area code of Washington, D.C., 202, and the international dialing code of Egypt, 20. While the Washington Post initially described this incident as involving the “interception” of calls placed from Washington, the Post later explained that it involved the collection of “metadata” logs about the calls. It is not the case that the N.S.A. recorded the contents of the calls.

66 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:53:05am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

Can’t tell the difference between Dudebros and RWNJs any more.

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67 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:53:25am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

@ggreenwald Those NSA audits the WashPost just published showing 1,000s of violations: what possible excuse is there for marking those top secret??

Honest question, Glenn: Are you high as a kite right now?

You can be honest with me. I won’t judge.

68 AlexRogan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:54:52am

re: #46 erik_t

The IOC should grow a goddamned spine. It shouldn’t even be up to the USOC to make a stand on this issue. In a small way, I feel sorry for them in this context.

Ensuring that the international Olympic games aren’t a glorifying theater for a nation that rejects basic human rights: not a single nation’s job. Kind of the IOC’s job.

Threats of boycotts of the Sochi Olympics from us plebes or even some athletes aren’t gonna have much effect; what will really get the IOC’s attention is pressure on the sponsors, like Coca-Cola.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

69 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:55:23am

re: #67 erik_t

Honest question, Glenn: Are you high as a kite right now?

You can be honest with me. I won’t judge.

lol, when did you last sleep Glenn?

70 Mattand  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:56:27am

re: #7 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

This has been one of the most painful things about Wikileaks, Snowden, Greenwald, and the rest.

We have a nation where systemic racism routinely deprives blacks, Hispanics, and others of their rights. It is demonstrable, it’s not an argument: black people get longer sentences for the same crimes with the same criminal background than white people do. Black witnesses— as the Zimmerman trial showed— are less often believed. Policies massively affecting black people, like no-knock warrants and stop-and-frisk, affect literally hundreds of thousands of black people per year.

And yet the focus on ‘freedom’ and ‘privacy’ from the civil libertarians is focused on these vague, conspiratorial ideas of the NSA ‘crushing dissent’. It’s the discomfort of the privileged having privilege removed— or even just imagining what that’d be like.

This times infinity.

71 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:58:41am

In other news, I care A LOT more about the derp being twitted by a major media dudebro like Glenn Greenwald than I care about the derp being twitted by Prudence (?), or Inez (???), or whomever.

72 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:58:55am

re: #56 Mattand

*Possible Godwin ahead*

Then again, I’m guessing the IOC is the same guys who in the 30’s said, “Ya know, that Hitler seems to be a stout fellow. Let’s give the games to Germany!”

Hell, the IOC wanted the 1940 olympics to be in goddamn Tokyo

73 darthstar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:00:00am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Greenwald has reduced himself to being an internet troll. Love it.

74 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:00:36am
75 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:00:42am

We are surrounded by idiots.
today.com

76 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:01:44am

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

Speaking of Buzzfeed:


Republicans just don’t make any sense. WTF.

77 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:01:46am

re: #70 Mattand

This times infinity.

Or at least times ten. (Yours is #70, his was #7.)

78 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:01:52am

re: #71 erik_t

In other news, I care A LOT more about the derp being twitted by a major media dudebro like Glenn Greenwald than I care about the derp being twitted by Prudence (?), or Inez (???), or whomever.

Yeah but, Prudence & Inez get their marching orders from Glenn Beck, who has more media influence than Greenwald.

79 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:04:37am

re: #76 Lidane

Speaking of Buzzfeed:


Republicans just don’t make any sense. WTF.

So, would CNN and NBC have the guts to simply tell the GOP “Fine, you don’t exist as far as we are concerned.”

I presume the GOP can still buy ad time on those networks, but I’m curious whether they could actually weather two major networks (and their 24/7 news channels) deciding that a political party gets *zero* free coverage of anything they say or do.

80 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:05:11am
81 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:06:46am

Rios: ‘God Will Even the Score’ with Obama and Gays

I would not want to be in the shoes of any of the left right now. I would not want to be in Barack Obama’s shoes. I would not want to be in the shoes of homosexual activists. I say that with humility and with fear for them because God will even the score, he will sort things out, he will be God and he will not be mocked. Whereas they think they are getting away with breaking all kinds of moral laws and mocking everyone in the process, they just don’t know God, they don’t know who they are up against and we do. And that should bring out some mercy in us because I wouldn’t want to be—what did that old evangelist say: ‘it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.’

Bring it, you freaked out psycho bitch.

82 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:07:12am

re: #80 Gus

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It truly is the libertarian paradise.

83 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:08:34am

re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader

We are surrounded by idiots.
today.com

She could go live in Somalia.

84 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:08:46am

re: #64 Carlos Danger

Someone hound that fucker. Copts want peace and security, and the MB never gave it to them.

85 ObserverArt  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:12:01am

I think being free of self-sensorship does mean being unburdened by facts, not having to double check and backup sources, clear thought and not innuendo and hints and all that mainstream old-time journalistic stuff.

Fox, Drudge, all famous practitioners of the new method. Assange is watching Greenwald and how it works and wants in.

86 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:12:15am

re: #80 Gus

Failed states are breeding grounds for all kinds of woe. From recruiting of terrorists and insurgents to creating public health emergencies (and both can go hand in hand as terrorists and lawlessness make any attempt to provide preventative or basic health care so dangerous that MSF or other charitable groups have to leave for fear of their lives).

Polio is a disease and scourge that could be wiped out completely if public health officials could get vaccinations into these areas.

polioeradication.org

87 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:13:03am

Oh lovely. Derp on my FB timeline about ZOMG OBUMMERCARE ALLOWS GUBMINT HOME INVASIONS.

What the fuck, conservatives? How do people keep falling for this shit?

88 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:15:14am

re: #81 Kragar

And that should bring out some mercy in us because I wouldn’t want to be—what did that old evangelist say: ‘it’s a fearful thing to fall into the hands of an angry God.’

People longing for an 18th Century world. Wrong side of history.

89 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:15:53am

Sirota’s nonsensical worldview coming into view:

90 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:16:08am

Julian Assange’s hero weighs in on Egypt:

91 erik_t  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:16:28am

re: #81 Kragar

Rios: ‘God Will Even the Score’ with Obama and Gays

My boots, I am trembling in them.

Do people actually believe this shit? I get the idea of a God-the-watchmaker, who set stuff up billions of years ago and likes to watch things grind along. I just don’t get the idea of a God who meddles with every little everyday thing. He’s damn clever and circumspect, if so, what with acting through the boring old laws of science and nature every single time.

92 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:16:59am

re: #84 ProTARDISLiberal

Someone hound that fucker. Copts want peace and security, and the MB never gave it to them.

93 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:16am

A good point:

94 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:19am

re: #91 erik_t

My boots, I am trembling in them.

Do people actually believe this shit? I get the idea of a God-the-watchmaker, who set stuff up billions of years ago and likes to watch things grind along. I just don’t get the idea of a God who meddles with every little everyday thing. He’s damn clever and circumspect, if so, what with acting through the boring old laws of science and nature every single time.

And he forgot that God put us here as a food supply for the mosquitoes and their malarial masters.
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95 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:25am

re: #87 Lidane

Oh lovely. Derp on my FB timeline about ZOMG OBUMMERCARE ALLOWS GUBMINT HOME INVASIONS.

What the fuck, conservatives? How do people keep falling for this shit?

It’s one thing if a majority of voters really are bat shit crazy. Then majority rules, and the US self-destructs in short order.

However, I don’t really think a majority of US voters are bat crap crazy. A majority of GOP primary voters clearly are that crazy, and they are leveraging the votes of the relatively sane GOP voters to enact their crazy and to stay within striking distance of recovering power at the Federal level.

96 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:34am

re: #90 Charles Johnson

So, it has come to this. Republicans defending the Muslim Brotherhood.

97 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:39am

re: #89 lawhawk

VIOLATIONS!!!!!

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98 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:17:48am


Let’s see the intentional violations face their day in court. Starting with the guy who purposefully leaked these documents and harmed national security.

But instead, he conflates and confuses the issue by misreading and misunderstanding the NSA papers - an internal audit found the problems and many of them are of the keystroke entry kind - not intentional at all.

99 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:18:43am

The only difference between David Sirota and Prudence is Teh Fake Quotes.

100 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:18:53am

re: #98 lawhawk

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Let’s see the intentional violations face their day in court. Starting with the guy who purposefully leaked these documents and harmed national security.

But instead, he conflates and confuses the issue by misreading and misunderstanding the NSA papers - an internal audit found the problems and many of them are of the keystroke entry kind - not intentional at all.

Damn, he told you! Kind of has an Inez feel to it.

101 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:19:17am

re: #98 lawhawk

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Let’s see the intentional violations face their day in court. Starting with the guy who purposefully leaked these documents and harmed national security.

But instead, he conflates and confuses the issue by misreading and misunderstanding the NSA papers - an internal audit found the problems and many of them are of the keystroke entry kind - not intentional at all.

He isn’t misunderstanding — he’s deliberately misleading people. I no longer have any doubt that this is what they’re doing.

102 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:19:19am

re: #99 Vicious Babushka

The only difference between David Sirota and Prudence is Teh Fake Quotes.

@lawhawk if govt is going to prosecute Snowden it should be prosecuting those who violated the law “thousands of times” #LIBTARD!

103 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:19:19am
104 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:20:15am
105 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:20:17am

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

So, it has come to this. Republicans defending the Muslim Brotherhood.

They realize they actually share many of the same values.

106 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:20:37am

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

CRIMES!!!!!

107 simoom  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:20:37am

re: #73 darthstar

Greenwald has reduced himself to being an internet troll.

Back when he was more of a blogger Greenwald already was an internet troll, but Snowden and the Guardian empowered him to to troll massively wider audience:

“We couldn’t believe just how momentous this occasion was,” Greenwald said. “When you read these documents, you get a sense of the breadth of them. It was a rush of adrenaline and ecstasy and elation. You feel you are empowered for the first time because there’s this mammoth system that you try and undermine and subvert and shine a light on — but you usually can’t make any headway, because you don’t have any instruments to do it — [and now] the instruments were suddenly in our lap.”

“Mom! I’ve finally made it!”

108 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:21:12am

re: #104 Carlos Danger

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:21:28am

re: #107 simoom

Back when he was more of a blogger Greenwald already was an internet troll, but Snowden and the Guardian empowered him to to troll massively wider audience:

“Mom! I’ve finally made it!”

He’s no James Cagney though.

110 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:21:33am
111 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:22:10am
112 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:22:31am
113 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:23:54am

And now Jake Tapper is going to help promote the latest hysterical NSA story.

114 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:24:51am
115 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:25:12am

Heh, just retweeted Halfa Cracka to #ThingsLiberalsDontSay

116 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:25:33am

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

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Yeah, its not like anyone is trying to strip them of their voting rights….

FUCK!

117 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:25:37am

re: #107 simoom

Back when he was more of a blogger Greenwald already was an internet troll, but Snowden and the Guardian empowered him to to troll massively wider audience:

“Mom! I’ve finally made it!”

I usually didn’t have much of a problem with GG’s opinion pieces for Salon. However, GG’s demagoguing the Snowden/NSA story at every opportunity has been very revealing. It seems likely that his MO hasn’t changed much, but he’s now trying his tricks on a larger story with more inconvenient facts that his narrative has to ignore (ever more obviously).

118 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:25:45am

re: #113 Charles Johnson

And now Jake Tapper is going to help promote the latest hysterical NSA story.

BENGHAZI! Oops, wait.

119 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:26:49am

re: #101 Charles Johnson

That’s what I was getting at when he was busy conflating and confusing. He’s intent upon misleading people, and all the headlines that are being produced by media outlets based on the WaPo report are falling for this - ignoring that the meat of the article indicates strong oversight - we’re looking at audit documents after all, and they show that most cases are involving valid foreign targets that were located in the US, and that many more cases involved keystroke errors.

Instead of the vast databases sweeping up everything online imaginable, the NSA is actually engaging in a far more limited sweep that is attempting to separate wheat from chaff, and looking for high value wheat at that. Because when time sensitivity is key, having 1 billion documents to sweep through is easier and quicker than trying to sweep through 10 billion (or 100 billion).

120 b.d.  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:27:16am

When is the Wikileaks Cafe Press store going to start selling Ron Paul & Drudge gear?

121 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:29:25am

WTF.

122 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:31:38am

Rios and Gaffney giddy with excitement over massacres in Egypt

Sandy Rios of the American Family Association today said she is “very grateful” for the action taken by the Egyptian military against the Muslim Brotherhood, including the massacre that left over 600 people in Egypt dead, and added that she also believes Muslims should not have First Amendment rights in the United States.

She denounced Muslim-Americans for “claiming our First Amendment rights here when Islam is much more than a religion” and said Islam should not be treated like Christianity, Buddhism or Hindusm. “It is a complete and total system that demands usurpation of whatever the local authority is, it demands to dominate, it demands to conquer, to kill or convert,” Rios charged.

The talk show host added that the massacre victims weren’t “innocent” and that she is “applauding” their actions against the Brotherhood.

Yesterday, Frank Gaffney—who also backs restrictions on First Amendment rights for Muslims—told Rios that “this bloodshed was probably necessary to give Egypt a chance for a better future.”

123 Jack Burton  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:31:59am

re: #115 Vicious Babushka

Heh, just retweeted Halfa Cracka to #ThingsLiberalsDontSay

That one’s a real winner based on the pictures at the top of her twitter page.

124 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:32:58am

re: #121 Lidane

WTF.

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Some people have a talent for just saying anything.

125 ObserverArt  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:33:04am

re: #117 EPR-radar

I usually didn’t have much of a problem with GG’s opinion pieces for Salon. However, GG’s demagoguing the Snowden/NSA story at every opportunity has been very revealing. It seems likely that his MO hasn’t changed much, but he’s now trying his tricks on a larger story with more inconvenient facts that his narrative has to ignore (ever more obviously).

That’s because he has to deal with that self-sensorship stuff as many try to pass him off as a journalist. The stage is bigger, more is expected, he seemingly cannot deliver and the people buying in don’t care one way or the other.

With the advent of digital communication and traditional media going away, we will at the same time be facing a transition of real journalism to the new media and learning what can be trusted.

Or, no one will care one way or the other and trusted journalism goes away.

Then we find ourselves truly in the Orwellian and Huxley worlds.

126 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:33:37am

LOL

127 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:35:20am

re: #122 Kragar

Rios and Gaffney giddy with excitement over massacres in Egypt

More projection from the AFA et al. Their cultish and cartoonish version of Christianity has all of the characteristics they falsely ascribe to Islam as a whole.

128 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:35:25am

This is the first time anyone has ever called me Teh Stan on Twitters.

129 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:35:59am

re: #18 Kragar

Fox News: ‘There’s No Question That The Polar Bear Is Thriving’

This is a prime example of cherry picking information.

The numbers now are higher than they were 50 years ago because they were almost hunted to extinction before it was made illegal. The bear numbers recovered once not every asshole looking for a bearskin rug was able to kill them. However, since their peak just over a decade ago, the numbers have started dropping again except in some groups that live in areas not as affected by AGW as other areas. Those groups will be affected by AGW enough to drop their numbers shortly.

130 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:36:45am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

LOL

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GET THEE BEHIND ME SATAN!

Doggy style is more fun anyways.

131 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:37:06am
132 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:38:02am

re: #111 Vicious Babushka

Wur not the rassists, u people are the real rassists!!!

133 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:38:19am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

LOL

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wow…bet she is the life of the party at neighborhood BBQs….

134 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:38:28am

No…. no racism possible here:

A pastor making a friendly gesture at police in Indiana wound up being forced to the ground and threatened with a Taser — because they thought he was flipping them off.

African-American firefighter George Madison Jr. was riding his bike on South Weinbach Ave. in Evansville at about 3:30p.m on Tuesday when he saw a police car approaching the same intersection.

Being familiar with a number of officers through his work with the local fire department, he waved to one of the men in the car believing he recognized them.

But police interpreted it differently, claiming they thought he was flipping them off and stopped him.

Madison went to call the police chief Billy Bolin, who he is friendly with, when he claims the officers got confrontational, but they told him to hang up his phone and get on the ground.

135 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:38:42am
136 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:39:05am

re: #122 Kragar

#Prolife

137 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:39:13am
138 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:39:14am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

LOL

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I saw this great test to mess with these cell clusters are people nuts.

There are 2 rooms. One room has 3 toddlers in it. The other room has 10,000 fertilized eggs in test tubes. A fire breaks out and you can only save one room. Which do you choose?

139 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:39:31am

BLOCK ME ALREADY CRACKA

140 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:40:12am

re: #136 Bulworth

#Prolife

These people aren’t pro-life.

141 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:40:48am

re: #137 Vicious Babushka

Sense, he makes none.

142 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:40:55am

re: #138 Kragar

I saw this great test to mess with these cell clusters are people nuts.

There are 2 rooms. One room has 3 toddlers in it. The other room has 10,000 fertilized eggs in test tubes. A fire breaks out and you can only save one room. Which do you choose?

I have seen Tweets from RWNJ’s claiming that 20 1st graders gunned down in Newtown is NOTHING COMPARED TO MILLIONS OF ABORTIONS!!!111

143 BongCrodny  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:41:03am

re: #129 b_sharp

This is a prime example of cherry picking information.

The numbers now are higher than they were 50 years ago because they were almost hunted to extinction before it was made illegal. The bear numbers recovered once not every asshole looking for a bearskin rug was able to kill them. However, since their peak just over a decade ago, the numbers have started dropping again except in some groups that live in areas not as affected by AGW as other areas. Those groups will be affected by AGW enough to drop their numbers shortly.

You want the polar bears to thrive? I say, get ‘em off these socialist government programs and get them jobs, they’ll be certain to thrive!

144 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:41:40am

Uh oh

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:42:32am

re: #139 Vicious Babushka

BLOCK ME ALREADY CRACKA

poor little half cracka is hopelessly cracked…

146 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:42:38am

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

I have seen Tweets from RWNJ’s claiming that 20 1st graders gunned down in Newtown is NOTHING COMPARED TO MILLIONS OF ABORTIONS!!!111

I hate the idea of any woman having to have an abortion, which is why there needs to be expanded access to birth control, including morning after and emergency contraception for any woman who wants it.

147 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:42:43am

re: #138 Kragar

That makes for a real great ethical test, especially for the life begins at fertilization crowd. I’d save the living breathing toddlers before the embryos. Save the living before those who are not yet alive and sentient.

148 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:43:49am
149 BongCrodny  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:44:52am

re: #144 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh

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I just read “ElArish” as “Amish” and “Peninsula” as “Pennsylvania.”

Holy shit, do I need glasses.

150 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:45:30am

re: #134 lawhawk

No…. no racism possible here:

Also says something that simply due to believing a rude gesture was made at them the two officers decided to stop and roust said man. Pretty thin-skinned and not a good attitude to show as a law enforcement officer and obvious representative of a community.

151 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:46:42am

afternoon moment of kitteh break:

kitteh hogs sunspill on kitchen floor

152 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:46:52am

re: #84 ProTARDISLiberal

Someone hound that fucker. Copts want peace and security, and the MB never gave it to them.

I could unfollow him. Would that make you feel better?

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:47:40am

re: #149 BongCrodny

I just read “ElArish” as “Amish” and “Peninsula” as “Pennsylvania.”

Holy shit, do I need glasses.

Hey, why wouldn’t fundamentalists be able to establish themselves and their training bases in Amish Pennsylvania?
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154 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:48:16am

re: #147 lawhawk

That makes for a real great ethical test, especially for the life begins at fertilization crowd. I’d save the living breathing toddlers before the embryos. Save the living before those who are not yet alive and sentient.

born babies are on their own…BOOTSTRAPS!!11!!

155 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:48:46am
156 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:48:58am

re: #153 Feline Fearless Leader

Hey, why wouldn’t fundamentalists be able to establish themselves and their training bases in Amish Pennsylvania?
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You know who else have beards?

157 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:49:48am

Heh.

158 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:49:50am

re: #151 Backwoods_Sleuth

afternoon moment of kitteh break:

kitteh hogs sunspill on kitchen floor

My old cat, who looked very much like the one in the picture, used to follow the sunbeams around the living room, even climbing on book shelves to do it.

She was obviously solar powered.

159 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:50:10am

re: #138 Kragar

I saw this great test to mess with these cell clusters are people nuts.

There are 2 rooms. One room has 3 toddlers in it. The other room has 10,000 fertilized eggs in test tubes. A fire breaks out and you can only save one room. Which do you choose?

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a large fundamentalist contingent against in vitro too.

160 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:50:46am

re: #155 Vicious Babushka

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That may be, but the racists of today are all on the GOP side.

161 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:51:12am

re: #156 Gus

You know who else have beards?

Dwarves!

162 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:51:31am

re: #155 Vicious Babushka

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Funny. Could have sworn that conservative William F. Buckley was against the CRA. I could have also sworn that GOP presidential candidate, Barry Goldwater was also against the CRA.

163 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:51:39am

re: #161 Kragar

Dwarves!

Old ladies.

164 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:51:43am

Ahhh, compost spread. Large glass of water consumed. Croutons drying in oven. Time to waste a little time keep up on world events here.

165 Jack Burton  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:52:10am

re: #156 Gus

You know who else have beards?

mooooslims!!1!1

166 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:52:12am

re: #161 Kragar

Dwarves!

Garden gnomes!

167 simoom  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:52:35am

re: #135 NJDhockeyfan

Good catch. The very first paragraph of that TNR story Greenwald is promoting is wrong:

In 2008, the National Security Agency illicitly—if accidentally—intercepted a “large number” of phone calls from Washington, D.C. because an error confused Egypt’s country code—“20”—with, yes, “202.”

nytimes.com

Correction: August 16, 2013

An earlier version of this article inaccurately portrayed an incident in 2008 involving a mix-up of the area code of Washington, D.C., 202, and the international dialing code of Egypt, 20. While the Washington Post initially described this incident as involving the “interception” of calls placed from Washington, the Post later explained that it involved the collection of “metadata” logs about the calls. It is not the case that the N.S.A. recorded the contents of the calls.

168 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:52:36am
169 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:52:50am

re: #166 Gus

Garden gnomes!

Tom Cruise!

170 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:53:05am

re: #164 calochortus

Ahhh, compost spread. Large glass of water consumed. Croutons drying in oven. Time to waste a little time keep up on world events here.

You’ve done more than me. All I’ve done today is move a Wordpress site and fuck up a pile of customer emails.

My forehead is a little flat and sore right now.

171 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:53:59am

re: #168 Vicious Babushka

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Derp. The pattern is the Confederacy.

172 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:54:27am

re: #168 Vicious Babushka

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What does the vote in ‘64 have to do with policies being enacted today?

173 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:54:47am

re: #171 Gus

Derp. The pattern is the Confederacy.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:54:57am

re: #170 b_sharp

You’ve done more than me. All I’ve done today is move a Wordpress site and fuck up a pile of customer emails.

My forehead is a little flat and sore right now.

I’m watching a contractor and some building engineers run around. We checked on the server room A/C pumps as a preliminary for a shut-down scheduled for early this evening and discovered a 1-1/4” valve that has been weeping. Trying to find a replacement part on a Friday afternoon…

175 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:54:59am

re: #170 b_sharp

You’ve done more than me. All I’ve done today is move a Wordpress site and fuck up a pile of customer emails.

My forehead is a little flat and sore right now.

We all have our talents. Mine appears to be manual labor-which I’m getting a little old for.
The only way I could move a Wordpress site is to bring it up on my laptop and walk to another room with it.

176 Jack Burton  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:55:58am

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

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If Chewbacca does not live on Endor you must acquit…

177 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:56:12am

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

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Go down South and ask them about the Confederacy.

178 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:56:22am

re: #167 simoom

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Good catch. The very first paragraph of that TNR story Greenwald is promoting is wrong:

nytimes.com

I just added this clarification as an update to my post. Of course, all the media are already circulating a misleading claim.

But I think the other information is even more important, that 70% of the incidents in that audit were actually valid foreign targets who roamed into the US with their cell phones.

179 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:57:26am

re: #174 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m watching a contractor and some building engineers run around. We checked on the server room A/C pumps as a preliminary for a shut-down scheduled for early this evening and discovered a 1-1/4” valve that has been weeping. Trying to find a replacement part on a Friday afternoon…

Building a swimming pool for the servers? How considerate.

180 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:58:31am
181 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:59:34am

re: #175 calochortus

We all have our talents. Mine appears to be manual labor-which I’m getting a little old for.
The only way I could move a Wordpress site is to bring it up on my laptop and walk to another room with it.

It’s easy.

Just plug the framenjam into the brossengreeber, log on to the new server with muglecram and run the transpartimagor script.

182 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 11:59:41am

re: #161 Kragar

Even female dwarves.

And also wizards who ignore that they’ve got powers that could prevent all kinds of misfortune with a few simple steps (like using time turners to kill Voldemort when they’ve got the chance, or summoning Eagles to make the destruction of the One Ring far less perilous than it turned out to be).

183 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:00:05pm

re: #179 b_sharp

Building a swimming pool for the servers? How considerate.

Separate room luckily. Though the A/C units themselves in the server room also had clogged drains the contractor had to clean out. Both A/C units had alarms going in that regard.

That’s one reason we start early - do unit maintenance on the A/C and pumps before the shut-down since we have a window to do heavier maintenance while the server equipment is off if necessary. And also prevents having a “surprise” when we come in to turn the equipment on Sunday morning after the building power outage ends.

184 Lidane  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:00:33pm
185 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:01:13pm

re: #181 b_sharp

It’s easy.

Just plug the framenjam into the brossengreeber, log on to the new server with muglecram and run the transpartimagor script.

Well see, I should have known that…

186 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:01:16pm

re: #181 b_sharp

It’s easy.

Just plug the framenjam into the brossengreeber, log on to the new server with muglecram and run the transpartimagor script.

But what if the miniaturized katzenjammers get loose?

187 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:01:28pm

The place he’s speaking at (notice the red/white/black colors btw,) “Campus Reform” is sponsored by “The Leadership Institute” - the same institute that gave us James O’Keefe and several other far right wingnuts & bigots - it’s where the Neo confederate youth give a big reach around to the “libertarian” youth:

The Leadership Institute offers 40 types of training seminars at its Arlington headquarters, around the United States, and occasionally in foreign countries.[3] In 2009, the Institute trained more than 9,500 students.[4] Since its 1979 founding, the Leadership Institute has trained more than 91,475 students. Notable alumni include Grover Norquist, Ralph Reed, Jeff Gannon, Senator Mitch McConnell, Congressman Mike Pence, James O’Keefe, and seven new members of the 112th Congress.[5]

en.wikipedia.org

188 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:01:30pm

Here’s a list of the churches that were attacked in Egypt the last couple of days.

Another one (in Arabic).

189 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:01:57pm

re: #182 lawhawk

Even female dwarves.

And also wizards who ignore that they’ve got powers that could prevent all kinds of misfortune with a few simple steps (like using time turners to kill Voldemort when they’ve got the chance, or summoning Eagles to make the destruction of the One Ring far less perilous than it turned out to be).

What about a catapult?

Youtube Video

190 simoom  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:02:38pm

re: #178 Charles Johnson

Of course, all the media are already circulating a misleading claim.

Yeah, practically every write-up I’ve seen focuses on that incident and incorrectly claims phone calls were intercepted/recorded/listened to. It demonstrates a big misinformation problem with the way WaPo publishes these stories. They usually start around two pages, and then over the next few days the same story, at the same URL, slowly expands to around four pages, with numerous corrections and clarifications and removal of the most inflammatory claims. WaPo never bothers to document those changes and numerous other sites run with incorrect claims, never realizing they’re no longer in the main story.

191 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:02:45pm

re: #186 Feline Fearless Leader

But what if the miniaturized katzenjammers get loose?

That’s what the massively parallel interrupt swathagsomes are for.

192 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:03:15pm

re: #57 Gus

IMPEACH!

I’m still thinking these emoprogs and dudebros are supplying the GOP with a lot of ammo for impeaching Obama. Regardless of the facts. Which is how it sometimes works in GOP land.

There isn’t going to be an impeachment. The last sane derpwranglers in the GOP know it would guarantee a Dem revival.

193 Targetpractice  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:03:24pm

re: #173 Vicious Babushka

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What did the opposition to the CRA assert as their reason? “States Rights.” What banner did the GOP candidate run under the very next presidential election? “States Rights.” What did the GOP candidate run on the following election? “States Rights.”

And what does the GOP tout today as their reason for opposing virtually anything Obama proposes? “States Rights.”

194 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:04:00pm

Halfa Cracka is also a Birther. My surprise, let me show you it.

195 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:04:29pm

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

Halfa Cracka is also a Birther. My surprise, let me show you it.

Naked?

196 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:04:42pm

Still waiting for Halfa to block me. (whistles, taps foot)

197 Charles Johnson  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:05:22pm

By the way, there have been two attempts to re-register by those sock puppets from last night. So far.

198 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:06:49pm

Youth For Western Civilization and other budding brown shirt groups have been started by LI:

This was indeed a rather important story. For decades, no matter how obvious they are otherwise, conservatives will deny that they are promoting racist politics. This was the first time their culpability in hate politics could not be denied, which is not to say they aren’t still trying. This story is hard to find on conservative blogs - if it is there at all - and not one conservative outlet on television, radio or newspaper is even talking about it at this point. As noted before however, the left wing blogs and some mainstream media are talking it up big time, and to go back to how we led off this entry, the main question has been how could any conservative defend this clown, let alone put him in prominent position despite knowing that he was damaged goods in the worst way?

And it isn’t like he is in the shadows either. Marcus has been on the radar screen for a while now and he made his most prominent move early in 2009, when he along with members of a right-wing youth activist training outfit called the Leadership Institute started a group called Youth for Western Civilization. It is a vile, vile group who’s members focus is, as their site maintains, to “educate, organize and train activists on campuses across the nation to create a culture that will promote the survival of Western Civilization and pride in Western heritage.” Chapters have sprung up at various universities, and along with them protests against any activities from the group, including one that chased Tom Tancredo from the University of North Carolina.

We know, we know. What so wrong about pride in Western heritage, right. Well, nothing, but when someone has a track record like Epstein’s be suspect about other things he wishes to further. YWC apparently is - they deny he helped found the organization.

onepeoplesproject.com

199 Jack Burton  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:06:52pm

re: #192 Decatur Deb

There isn’t going to be an impeachment. The last sane derpwranglers in the GOP know it would guarantee a Dem revival.

Also there’s that little inconvenient fact that the President hasn’t committed an impeachable crime. Whacky fringe opposition types always seem to forget that part.

I dare them to try to impeach a sitting president because “we don’t like him, and he’s got a foreign sounding name”. The 50 state landslide in Congress that follows would be most amusing.

200 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:06:53pm

Beck: ‘Oprah Winfrey, You Disgust Me’

Over the last week, Glenn Beck has repeatedly attacked Oprah Winfrey for daring to compare the Trayvon Martin case to the murder of Emmett Till and, in response, has been focusing on a gruesome 2007 murder of a white couple that was tortured and brutalized by five African Americans, demanding to know why the media has not been covering this story.

Apparently the simple fact that it happened five years ago is no excuse for Beck, who returned to it again today on his radio program during an extended rant against Winfrey, which culminated with Beck declaring that Winfrey disgusts him as he self-righteously compared himself to the Statue of Liberty.

201 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:07:24pm
202 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:09:08pm

re: #200 Kragar

Beck as the Statue of LIBERTY:
“Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free,” he said. “Give me the ones that you have told ‘you’ll never make it.’ Send them to me. The tempest-tost, because I hold my lamp beside a golden door”:

We’re getting near the end now. Won’t be long…

203 Eventual Carrion  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:10:33pm

re: #186 Feline Fearless Leader

But what if the miniaturized katzenjammers get loose?

Duct tape.

204 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:10:46pm

Roger changed the subject after being pwn3d.

205 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:11:23pm

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

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They don’t care about reality and facts and evidence and all that shit, they just care about how it sounds and how it looks on them.

They want everything put into a pretty package for themselves and a grubby old cat box for everybody else.

Image is everything!!!1!

206 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:11:42pm

re: #202 Bulworth

We’re getting near the end now. Won’t be long…

Maybe. People have been thinking that for years, though, and he’s still with us.

207 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:11:55pm

Here’s a link to some of the RWNJ activism that the Leadership institute encourages through Campus Reform:

campusreform.org

208 Decatur Deb  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:12:07pm

re: #202 Bulworth

We’re getting near the end now. Won’t be long…

Real quote? Howard Beale time.

209 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:12:13pm

re: #203 Eventual Carrion

Duct tape.

Yah, make the rest of us look bad with your thinking outside of the box ideas.

210 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:12:43pm

Every1 is making fun of u Bryan

211 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:12:55pm

re: #191 b_sharp

That’s what the massively parallel interrupt swathagsomes are for.

As long as it does not transmogrify them into slugs the size of the Chrysler Building.

212 Kragar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:14:17pm

re: #210 Vicious Babushka

Every1 is making fun of u Bryan

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Viral, like the bird flu.

213 Creepy Totalitarianist  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:14:20pm

re: #211 Feline Fearless Leader

As long as it does not transmogrify them into slugs the size of the Chrysler Building.

Low probability, high steaks.

214 dog philosopher  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:15:03pm

wacko libertarian left meeting up with the wacko libertarian right

right, left - these labels have always been worse than useless - ‘left’ has long been a wingnut term of art meaning ‘i hate brown people’

and right now it seems that old political boundaries are clearly breaking up and shifting

but this has happened again and again - abraham lincoln talked about it in the 1840s, saying that the parties at that time were ‘like the drunks in the music hall sketch who wrestled into each other’s coats’

musta been a funny sketch

215 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:15:54pm

re: #134 lawhawk

No…. no racism possible here:

Evansville police have a bad reputation. I live near there, and my local police have cautioned me about the EPD. The experiences of my friends in Evansville bears this out: they’ll knock you around without much provocation, especially if you’re black or in one of poorer neighborhoods.

216 dog philosopher  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:15:59pm

re: #210 Vicious Babushka

Every1 is making fun of u Bryan

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dear bryan fischer

julian assange & teh wikileaks is your buddies now

how do you feel about that?

217 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:16:02pm

re: #213 b_sharp

Low probability, high steaks.

Katzenjammers (not miniaturized)

218 dog philosopher  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:17:24pm

re: #215 The Ghost of a Flea

Evansville police have a bad reputation. I live near there, and my local police have cautioned me about the EPD. The experiences of my friends in Evansville bears this out: they’ll knock you around without much provocation, especially if you’re black or in one of poorer neighborhoods.

ronald reagan was wrong about ‘federalism’

the more local a government entity gets, the less transparent it is and the less subject to oversight

219 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:17:39pm

So I grok this headline:

Expert: Walmart Shows Economy Collapsing

FU Newsmax.

220 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:19:22pm

re: #218 engineer cat

ronald reagan was wrong about ‘federalism’

the more local a government entity gets, the less transparent it is and the less subject to oversight

That’s okay, in Wisconsin, Republicans have decided local authority doesn’t really matter at all because STATES RIGHTS man

221 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:20:01pm

re: #219 Carlos Danger

So I grok this headline:

FU Newsmax.

I saw an article that pointed out that one of Walmart’s major problems was that the low-income part of the US society was not recovering from the economic downturn as fast as other segments. And thus did not have the money to spend in Walmart to help their sales.

Perhaps a little self-inflicted damage there?

222 Randall Gross  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:21:45pm

In case is was not clear from the other links up thread, the Leadership Institute is the Youth Outreach arm of the far right in the US, and Campus Reform is just one of their myriad operations.

223 calochortus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:22:25pm

re: #221 Feline Fearless Leader

Also, people deferred big ticket items like cars until recently so that’s where the disposable income is going right now, not big screen TVs and the like.

225 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:26:30pm

And today’s self-education process (mainly through Wikipedia) was tracing the Katzenjammer Kids back to Max and Moritz. Nothing like mid-19th century childrens’ tales.

en.wikipedia.org

Also found out that while “katzenjammer” is “the wailing of cats” it is also used as a reference term to a hangover.

226 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:28:04pm

re: #187 Randall Gross

The place he’s speaking at (notice the red/white/black colors btw,) “Campus Reform” is sponsored by “The Leadership Institute” - the same institute that gave us James O’Keefe and several other far right wingnuts & bigots - it’s where the Neo confederate youth give a big reach around to the “libertarian” youth:

The circle of Derp is running laps around itself.

227 RadicalModerate  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:37:54pm

re: #194 Vicious Babushka

Halfa Cracka is also a Birther. My surprise, let me show you it.

And regularly retweets VDARE, and AmRen. Then again, you can just look at her twitter page background image and know exactly where she’s coming from.

228 wrenchwench  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:38:27pm

re: #187 Randall Gross

The place he’s speaking at (notice the red/white/black colors btw,) “Campus Reform” is sponsored by “The Leadership Institute” - the same institute that gave us James O’Keefe and several other far right wingnuts & bigots - it’s where the Neo confederate youth give a big reach around to the “libertarian” youth:

en.wikipedia.org

Which is one reason not to assume that racism will die off with old white men.

229 lawhawk  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:39:04pm

Lonegan’s losing it:


Booker’s tremendously popular in the state, is well funded, and has some good ideas, as well as having great communications skills, but he thinks Obama’s going to kill his chances - giving Lonegan the win?

Oh, Lonegan thinks that he can link Booker to Obama and use discontent over Obamacare and other Obama initiatives as a way to draw votes.

In a state that went for Obama 58 - 40. And with a significant Democratic party advantage in registrations. Despite Christie’s approval ratings and support across parties, it doesn’t extend to Lonegan, who’s courting the fringe right and isn’t what most New Jerseyeans want.

230 Gus  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:40:44pm
231 Carlos Danger  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:42:45pm

re: #221 Feline Fearless Leader

The Republicans are all about self inflicted damage. They complain about low birth rates but deny all forms of maternity leave and a living income.

232 darthstar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 12:50:59pm
233 RadicalModerate  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 1:16:15pm

re: #187 Randall Gross

The place he’s speaking at (notice the red/white/black colors btw,) “Campus Reform” is sponsored by “The Leadership Institute” - the same institute that gave us James O’Keefe and several other far right wingnuts & bigots - it’s where the Neo confederate youth give a big reach around to the “libertarian” youth:

en.wikipedia.org

Some more on the Leadership Institute and their ties to YWC and other white nationalist groups:

Advocates for ‘defense of the Western homeland’ become a campus lightning rod

Money quote for those denying the groups are related:

[Youth for Western Civilization founder, and leader Kevin] DeAnna has something else in common with Rove, Reed and Norquist — they were all trained by the Leadership Institute, the influential foundation that for more than 30 years has prepared conservative activists for jobs in politics, education and government. Dozens of members of Congress — including six elected in November — and tens of thousands of state legislators, congressional staffers and campaign operatives have passed through its doors over the years, the institute says.

DeAnna is the institute’s deputy field director, supervising field staffers in the Northeast at the same time he runs YWC.

234 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 1:37:56pm

re: #199 Jack Burton

Also there’s that little inconvenient fact that the President hasn’t committed an impeachable crime. Whacky fringe opposition types always seem to forget that part.

I dare them to try to impeach a sitting president because “we don’t like him, and he’s got a foreign sounding name”. The 50 state landslide in Congress that follows would be most amusing.

Unfortunately, the effect of an impeachment clown show on the 2016 election would not be nearly so dramatic as a 50 state landslide. Of the Romney states, NC would likely move into the D column. That might be all that happens.

235 urbanmeemaw  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 2:12:23pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Stone and Indict Clapper slithered over to Cesca’s place, where they trashed you in comments. I hate to break that you to, Charles, as I know you will be crushed.

236 urbanmeemaw  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 2:17:06pm

re: #57 Gus

Bingo. I think that’s part of the agenda. I really do. Are these people being paid?

237 socrets  Fri, Aug 16, 2013 4:54:46pm

re: #230 Gus

Haha. Guess Snowden should never have left America for Russia.


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