Tech Note: Taming Javascript Regular Expressions

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Yesterday I worked out a nice way to make long Javascript regular expressions much easier to build, maintain and update, so here’s one of those tech notes that will quickly become an open thread. (Somebody might find this useful, though.)

The purpose of the following code is to make sure that all outgoing links at LGF open in a new window, but what makes it a bit tricky is that I want some internal LGF links to open in a new window as well. Handling this in Javascript instead of manually adding the attribute target="_blank" to the link’s HTML code is much more elegant, and used to be necessary to produce valid code in some types of HTML. (The attribute’s now perfectly valid in HTML 5.)

Here’s the first draft of this Javascript code; it uses jQuery’s .on() function to watch for all clicks on links, then passes the href of the link (the destination URL) through a series of regular expressions to decide whether or not to add target="_blank" to the tag. And boy, is it ever messy.

$('body').on('click', 'a', function() {
	var that = $(this),
		href = that.attr('href');
	if (href.match(/^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/article\/|^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/page\/|^\/article\/|^\/page\/|^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/day\/|^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/pages|^\/$/i) === false || href.match(/lgf-media-library\.php|lgf-image-library\.php|lgf-pages-dashboard\.php|^https?:\/\/(?!littlegreenfootballs\.com).*/i)) {
		that.attr('target', '_blank');
	}
	return true;
});

OK, that incredibly long string of cryptic spaghetti gets the job done, but it’s fugly, difficult to update, and invites typos. The code works, yet it is heinous.

The problem is that regular expression literals in Javascript can’t be broken apart into separate lines to make their purpose clearer, because they’re not actually strings — they’re a special Javascript type that has to be defined on one line.

However, by defining the regular expressions as instances of Javascript’s built-in RegExp object, we can define them as strings, and write some code that’s much cleaner and easier to work with:

$('body').on('click', 'a', function() {
	var that = $(this),
		href = that.attr('href'),
		same = RegExp([
			'^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/article\/',
			'^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/page\/',
			'^\/article\/',
			'^\/page\/',
			'^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/day\/',
			'^http:\/\/littlegreenfootballs\.com\/pages',
			'^\/$'
		].join('|'), 'i'),
		open = RegExp([
			'lgf-media-library\.php',
			'lgf-image-library\.php',
			'lgf-pages-dashboard\.php',
			'^https?:\/\/(?!littlegreenfootballs\.com).*'
		].join('|'), 'i');
	if (href.match(same) === false || href.match(open)) {
		that.attr('target', '_blank');
	}
	return true;
});

The regular expressions are assigned to the variables same (for URLs that must open in the same window) and open (for URLs that open in a new window). The actual strings that will become our regular expressions are elements in an array (inside the square brackets) that are concatenated together into a long string with the join function, inserting the | character (which means ‘or’ in a regex) between each element.

Now, if I need to update either list it’s a simple matter of adding another array element to those definitions in lines 4 through 18, and I can see at a glance exactly which URLs are being filtered for which purpose.

I know, I haven’t explained exactly how those regular expressions really work — I will leave that as an exercise for you, dear reader, should you be so inclined. The only one that’s tricky at all is on line 17; it uses a negative look-ahead to match all http or https links that are not on the domain littlegreenfootballs.com.

(I’ve simplified this a bit for purposes of illustration. In the actual deployed LGF code, the regular expressions are defined once at page load and stored in a global name-spaced object, so they don’t have to be created on every click of a link. But I didn’t want to get into all that … this time.)

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490 comments
1 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:31:24pm

When the // / things get to the bottom of the screen without you shooting them first do you lose?

2 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:32:09pm

I guess I shoulda escaped some things in that last comment…

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:33:44pm

I’m not a tech expert but I do find this stuff interesting and I appreciate that you take the time to go into such detail with us about it. Just another way LGF stands head and shoulders about most of the other blogs on the Net.

4 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:38:17pm
The only one that’s tricky at all is the one on line 17, which uses a negative look-ahead

I find a positive look-ahead is much better for maintaining a happy attitude about life, but to each one’s own, I suppose.

5 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:38:31pm

re: #3 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m not a tech expert but I do find this stuff interesting and I appreciate that you take the time to go into such detail with us about it. Just another way LGF stands head and shoulders about most of the other blogs on the Net.

Charles has built a very sophisticated system here. I’ve always been impressed by it.

6 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:44:10pm

re: #4 wrenchwench

I find a positive look-ahead is much better for maintaining a happy attitude about life, but to each one’s own, I suppose.

Positive look-ahead is the default mode.

7 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:46:56pm
8 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:47:20pm
9 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:49:13pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

Until I looked at the caption I thought it was the Guadalupe River here in Texas. Heh.

10 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:51:19pm
11 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:55:39pm
12 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:56:16pm

re: #1 Randall Gross

When the // / things get to the bottom of the screen without you shooting them first do you lose?

As you may have noticed, backslashes in comments tend to vanish.

13 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 2:57:10pm
14 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:02:03pm
15 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:03:57pm
16 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:04:02pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Did you see the pix I posted of the trash in the surf in Java? So depressing.

17 AlexRogan  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:06:52pm

Love Breaking Bad? Love themed Lego playsets? Now you can have both at the same time (unofficial, of course):

Ars Technica: Now you can buy your own Breaking Bad meth lab Lego set

Heh…

18 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:07:04pm
19 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:07:26pm

:-(

20 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:08:02pm

re: #18 Stanley Sea

posting it again

That’s not just nasty, that looks like it could be dangerous.

21 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:09:53pm

re: #18 Stanley Sea

Ew. I’ve been to Indonesia a couple of times and that’s unfortunately not surprising. Maybe it’s gotten better but when I was there, Jakarta was one of the dirtiest cities I’ve seen in the whole world.

22 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:10:01pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

Did you see the pix I posted of the trash in the surf in Java? So depressing.

I’m unfortunately not that surprised. If the trend I saw (and was told about) in Malaysia holds for the other nations in southeast Asia then they all have serious litter and junk issues.

It’s mainly a cultural adjustment that needs to be made to “modern” packaging technology - especially in rural areas. In the old culture everything was wrapped or carried in a container you expected to re-use, or a leaf or other item that was natural and thus would degrade. So it is sort of habitual to be able to just toss aside packaging material.

Move forward to the modern plastic, paper, etc. and that habit turns into a massive litter issue. Thus the need for the various governments to start education programs and anti-litter initiatives in order to bring things back under control. And getting mixed results to date.

23 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:10:54pm

re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader

Government involvement? You SOCIALIST.


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24 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:14:05pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

Government involvement? You SOCIALIST.

///

You just want to experiment with dumping large quantities of sawdust into a Minnesota lake and then seeing if you can get it to freeze and then stay frozen year-round to support ice fishing and not having to move your little shed to shore every spring before the thaw.

;P
//

25 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:14:45pm

re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader

I’m unfortunately not that surprised. If the trend I saw (and was told about) in Malaysia holds for the other nations in southeast Asia then they all have serious litter and junk issues.

It’s mainly a cultural adjustment that needs to be made to “modern” packaging technology - especially in rural areas. In the old culture everything was wrapped or carried in a container you expected to re-use, or a leaf or other item that was natural and thus would degrade. So it is sort of habitual to be able to just toss aside packaging material.

Move forward to the modern plastic, paper, etc. and that habit turns into a massive litter issue. Thus the need for the various governments to start education programs and anti-litter initiatives in order to bring things back under control. And getting mixed results to date.

They need a TV commercial showing an elder and a tear running down his cheek.

Effective.

26 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:18:15pm

re: #24 Feline Fearless Leader

You just want to experiment with dumping large quantities of sawdust into a Minnesota lake and then seeing if you can get it to freeze and then stay frozen year-round to support ice fishing and not having to move your little shed to shore every spring before the thaw.

;P
//

We never have to worry about those. If you don’t feel like moving it, just leave it out there. It goes up for grabs after a certain date and someone else will come and take care of it for you.

27 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:19:42pm

re: #26 thedopefishlives

We never have to worry about those. If you don’t feel like moving it, just leave it out there. It goes up for grabs after a certain date and someone else will come and take care of it for you.

Or just build it a bit larger with pontoons and use it as a floating boathouse during the summer.
:P

28 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:21:19pm

This guy lives in New Mexico. Can’t blame him for his food choices when he goes out of state, but really, he should share more than photos, otherwise it’s just cruel.


29 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:22:23pm

Now I’m hungry.

30 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:23:48pm
31 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:27:09pm

Something for the pet peeve department. But not surprised since it’s easier for A-B to launch another marketing campaign than to seriously think about improving their product.

Saw billboards today for Budweiser’s new “bow-tie” can. And just knew that it’s another flailing attempt to gain market share by doing something stupid that they think will become hip and trendy, and thus popular.

business.time.com

Less beer, more aluminum, less efficient storage. And marketed in ways to hide the shortcomings and poor price comparison to their old cans (which they are not discontinuing.) Not that I drink Bud anyways - Troeg’s!

32 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:31:57pm

Canine photobomb.

33 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:36:19pm

re: #28 wrenchwench

This guy lives in New Mexico. Can’t blame him for his food choices when he goes out of state, but really, he should share more than photos, otherwise it’s just cruel.

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That is…..beautiful.

34 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:42:26pm

re: #31 Feline Fearless Leader

Something for the pet peeve department. But not surprised since it’s easier for A-B to launch another marketing campaign than to seriously think about improving their product.

Saw billboards today for Budweiser’s new “bow-tie” can. And just knew that it’s another flailing attempt to gain market share by doing something stupid that they think will become hip and trendy, and thus popular.

business.time.com

Less beer, more aluminum, less efficient storage. And marketed in ways to hide the shortcomings and poor price comparison to their old cans (which they are not discontinuing.) Not that I drink Bud anyways - Troeg’s!

I would love to buy six-ounce beers in a bottle. Sometimes that’s all I want, other times the second half of a beer is warmish by the time the first half is gone. Last summer when it was really hot, I’d put half a beer in a glass and put the other half back in the fridge until I was ready for it.

No Coors, either. Red Hook ISB or nothing.

35 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:44:17pm

re: #30 Charles Johnson

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I swear that looks like a Dempsey Dumpster in the middle of the street.

36 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:45:19pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

I swear that looks like a Dempsey Dumpster in the middle of the street.

No, check the bigger image - it’s some kind of wooden shed.

37 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:45:32pm

Here’s the bigger image:

twitter.com

38 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:50:49pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

Actually, it’s more like this.

Where’s the half eaten pizza pop?

39 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:50:53pm

This, right here, is why the term “dudebro” was invented.

Guffaw.

40 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:50:57pm
41 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:53:13pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

This, right here, is why the term “dudebro” was invented.

[Embedded content]

Guffaw.

He needs some bubble wrap around his poor little soul.

42 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:53:30pm

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Here’s the bigger image:

twitter.com

Thanks—I knew it couldn’t be. Looks sort of trashy there compared to to the rest of the place—were they mfg buggies (yes, “Carriages”) or bldg something? Hard to believe it was that early, though.

This is 1880—Broadway & 42nd St (note the Lyceum Theater). You can embiggen: Image: 220px-Longacre_Square%2C_New_York_City%2C_1880.jpg

43 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:55:19pm

“Trying to embody principle.”

A dudebro saying. Definition: a means of giving themselves permission to be insufferable sanctimonious #%$(*s.

44 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:55:43pm

re: #43 Charles Johnson

“Trying to embody principle.”

A dudebro saying. Definition: a means of giving themselves permission to be insufferable sanctimonious #%$(*s.

Remind me the definition of a dudebro again?

45 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:56:12pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

This, right here, is why the term “dudebro” was invented.

[Embedded content]

Guffaw.

What are they moaning about? Politico. Heh. Also, there are a whopping 78 bug trackers on that page.

46 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:56:53pm

When I read this:

GOP votes to block CNN, NBC from 2016 primary debates over Clinton shows

The Republican National Committee, responding to plans by two television networks for programs about Hillary Rodham Clinton, approved a resolution Friday to block CNN and NBC from hosting GOP presidential primary debates.

The unanimous vote affirmed RNC Chairman Reince Priebus’s threat against the networks if they went ahead with programs about Clinton, a possible Democratic presidential contender. Priebus said CNN has “an obvious bias.”

“That’s a network that won’t be hosting a single Republican primary debate,” Priebus declared, receiving a standing ovation from Republican activists from across the country gathered for the committee’s summer meeting in Boston.

[…]

The whole thing is a publicity stunt more than anything else, but I think part of this has to do with the Arkansas senate race.

47 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:57:21pm

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

48 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:58:35pm
49 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:59:16pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

Sounds more like a Best Buy/Geek Squad tech fail to me. If you show him the picture, he should be able to set you up with the right cord. There’s only 3 choices, it’s not that hard.

50 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:59:26pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

You probably needed a vga cable and ended up with a DVI.

51 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:59:49pm

Teabagger = Dudebro - aarp card

52 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:00:20pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

This, right here, is why the term “dudebro” was invented.

[Embedded content]

Guffaw.

I suppose when they find out they have to do real work, it’s not such an inviting place. Sounds more like they go on vacation…

53 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:01:46pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

Plus, they’re overpriced on that crap. My g-son found the cable he needed for his ‘puter to TV for about 1/4 the price elsewhere.

54 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:02:09pm

re: #46 freetoken

When I read this:

GOP votes to block CNN, NBC from 2016 primary debates over Clinton shows

The whole thing is a publicity stunt more than anything else, but I think part of this has to do with the Arkansas senate race.

What’s not being mentioned in that article is that the RNC ban on CNN and NBC also extends to CNN Espanol and Telemundo.

Who needs Latino voters anyway?

55 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:02:50pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

Too bad we aren’t neighbours, I have a wall of monitor cables.

56 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:03:44pm

I find the idea of these idealistic delicate flowers, crushed by the soul-numbing reality of Washington DC despite their best efforts to “embody principle,” to be fucking hilarious.

57 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:03:59pm

re: #47 Stanley Sea

So, what is it about me and tech/Best Buy that is such a total fail?

I took photos of the 2 plugs I needed a cord for (pulling out the old pc tower and find that I’m missing the cord to the monitor)

Like I said, I took photos, showed it to the dude. He hands me plug. I, idjit I am, do not check. Of course I don’t, I want to go back! Wrong freaking cord.

This is hands down, the best place to buy ALL of your cables.

monoprice.com

58 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:04:03pm

re: #50 b_sharp

You probably needed a vga cable and ended up with a DVI.

VGA I got. M/F. I needed M/M. I just knew it though. I put that receipt right in the bag knowing.

blah blah. It’s hot outside and I’m chilling. I’ll go on some errands after the sun sets.

59 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:04:29pm

re: #44 thedopefishlives

Remind me the definition of a dudebro again?

Rich, over-priivleged hipster that discovered Ayn Rand and became an insufferable glibertarian.

60 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:05:02pm

re: #58 Stanley Sea

VGA I got. M/F. I needed M/M. I just knew it though. I put that receipt right in the bag knowing.

blah blah. It’s hot outside and I’m chilling. I’ll go on some errands after the sun sets.

Did you tell them it was for a monitor?

61 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:05:49pm

re: #59 Lidane

Rich, over-priivleged hipster that discovered Ayn Rand and became an insufferable glibertarian.

Hence the Edward Snowden dudebro poster that Gus linked to. I get it now.

62 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:06:31pm

re: #55 b_sharp

Too bad we aren’t neighbours, I have a wall of monitor cables.

I bet. Come to So Cal!

Seriously, this system has been behind a decorative screen for a year. All should have been there, easy to set up. Me=Tech=fail, no matter what.

63 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:06:46pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

This, right here, is why the term “dudebro” was invented.

[Embedded content]

Guffaw.

The primary focus of that article is about someone that just turned, wait for it, 30. Seriously? She just turned freaking 30 years old and she’s all worn out from DC? 30?

64 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:06:49pm

The Party of God, at work:

Alabama state Republicans pushing ‘rising star’ out for not opposing marriage equality

Members of the Alabama Republican Party are looking to oust the head of their college community from her position on the state steering committee for refusing to denounce marriage equality on constitutional grounds, Buzzfeed reported on Friday.

Stephanie Petelos, who leads the College Republicans Federation of Alabama (CRFA), told Buzzfeed that fellow committee member Bonnie Sachs has been enlisting support for a plan to have her kicked off the board, in violation of an agreement Petelos had reached with state leadership regarding comments published in the Birmingham News in June 2013.

Sachs has co-sponsored an amendment to state party bylaws allowing for committee members who voice opinions “contrary to the most recently adopted platform at the Republican National Convention” without prior approval to be kicked off. Party members are scheduled to vote on the change this coming week.

Petelos told the News that the party’s reliance on faith-based rhetoric was alienating it from younger members who identify as Republicans because of their political stances, or who may support same-sex marriage in silence out of fear of being bullied by older party members.

[…]


A movement to expel her from her steering committee seat — one traditionally held by the CRFA chair — began after state chair Bill Armistead denounced Petelo’s comments as “an affront to the Christian principles that this nation was founded on.” Petelos told Buzzfeed she made a deal not to issue public statements on the issue in exchange for keeping her place on the committee, before Sachs introduced her proposed change to the bylaws.

[…]

Petelos was the subject of a glowing profile on the state party website in April 2013, which billed her as “a rising Republican star.”

Either you’ll pull the “America is a Christian Nation” party line, or you’ll be kicked out.

65 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:06:59pm

I have to bite my tongue now.

66 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:07:19pm

re: #63 Gus

The primary focus of that article is about someone that just turned, wait for it, 30. Seriously? She just turned freaking 30 years old and she’s all worn out from DC? 30?

Somebody needs to call her a waaaaambulance.

67 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:07:25pm

re: #60 b_sharp

yah.

68 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:08:27pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

I bet. Come to So Cal!

Seriously, this system has been behind a decorative screen for a year. All should have been there, easy to set up. Me=Tech=fail, no matter what.

I’m really surprised they didn’t give you the right cable, although they might not have monitor cables around, just extensions, which is what you got. Monitor cables come with monitors so not every store has them for sale.

69 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:08:34pm

30! I’m an exile! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

70 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:08:58pm

re: #64 freetoken

“Bullies” describes the R “leadership” to a perfect T.

71 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:09:18pm

30 is the new 70!!!

72 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:10:18pm

Actually, the better term for this “embody principle” horseshit is “emoprog.” Totally emo. Over-inflated with self-esteem, easily deflated by reality, causing a high-pitched whining sound.

73 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:10:25pm

Unfreaking believable.

74 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:11:00pm

re: #73 Gus

Unfreaking believable.

I don’t believe you.

75 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:11:16pm

re: #63 Gus

The primary focus of that article is about someone that just turned, wait for it, 30. Seriously? She just turned freaking 30 years old and she’s all worn out from DC? 30?

Didn’t you know life ends at 30? After that it’s off to pasture because it’s all downhill from there.

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76 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:13:38pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Calling. Thanks B.

77 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:13:56pm

re: #75 Lidane

Didn’t you know life ends at 30? After that it’s off to pasture because it’s all downhill from there.

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I’m 2 years from 60. That really is the end.

78 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:14:21pm

I was so goddamned busy at thirty that I didn’t even realize how old I was until I hit 37.

79 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:15:44pm

25-35 was a blur.

80 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:17:05pm

When I was 30 I was working for an asshole architect and didn’t have the opportunity to create some start-up out of thin air like she did. Get over it.

81 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:19:00pm

re: #79 Amory Blaine

25-35 was a blur.

The worst part of aging is the time it takes for a year to go by. Every year I live takes subjectively less time, so right now a year is fairly short and my memories just a drop in the bucket.

82 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:19:04pm

I think it was Fake Gandhi who said,
“Be the change you want to see in the world unless it’s too soul-crushing.”

83 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:19:43pm

re: #82 jaunte

I think it was Fake Gandhi who said,
“Be the change you want to see in the world unless it’s too soul-crushing.”

“… in which case, give the fuck up.”

84 thedopefishlives  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:20:09pm

re: #75 Lidane

Didn’t you know life ends at 30? After that it’s off to pasture because it’s all downhill from there.

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That’s next year. Thanks for putting a death mark on my life, douchecanoe.

//

85 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:20:26pm

WaPo (with their new webpage format) has a good article by Joel Achenbach:


NASA’s mission improbable

It’s a story of political funding and how we’re hitting some hard walls with what we can afford to do.

86 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:20:56pm

I seem to be seeing a lot of journalists lately with vastly over-inflated egos. Is that what they teach in J-school these days?

87 AlexRogan  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:21:29pm

re: #57 Amory Blaine

This is hands down, the best place to buy ALL of your cables.

monoprice.com

Upding for Monoprice…they have a lot of computer and AV cables/stuff for a reasonable price.

When we rebuilt our house a couple of years ago, they were my go-to place for most of the networking and AV stuff I needed (“keystone”-style jacks [RJ-45 for Ethernet, F-connector for coax] and wallplates, tools, etc.); except for a spool of Cat-5e cable (which I got from Sewell Direct via eBay) and one or two tools, everything else came from Monoprice.

88 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:23:11pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

Given the prevalence of the teaching that there is no such thing as objective truth, or objectivity, in the post-modern academic community, this sort of ego-is-all-we-have way of doing journalism will, I’m afraid, continue for some time.

89 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:23:42pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

It’s a Dudebronado.

90 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:24:21pm

re: #57 Amory Blaine

This is hands down, the best place to buy ALL of your cables.

monoprice.com

I’ve gotten some nice iPhone cases from them too, incredibly cheap.

91 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:25:10pm

George Will is concerned that something the government does which he deems useful will be hurt by sequestration:


The sequester’s a public health hazard

92 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:25:23pm

Hey Gus, there’s a photoshop idea. EMOPROGNADO!

93 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:26:19pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

I seem to be seeing a lot of journalists lately with vastly over-inflated egos. Is that what they teach in J-school these days?

No, social media and the ego burst it provides made that.

94 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:26:35pm

re: #84 thedopefishlives

All right, damn it, I’m 72 and I’m not going to listen to that bullshit any longer.

I’m still kicking life in the ass. I don’t even need glasses anymore, a fact of which I’m intensely proud. Surprised the hell out of me. I think some things are re-generating…

95 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:27:09pm
“The world was bigger than an office with five TV’s blaring news of fiscal cliffs and congressional stalemates,” Hunter told POLITICO. “Every day felt like the movie, “Groundhog Day.” My reason for leaving was to get out of the bubble and meet the real world. To see how people were making a real difference outside of Washington.”

And see the real world, she did. Hunter has visited four continents and 11 developing countries. She’s said she’s pursued lighter reading: “Game of Thrones” and “The Hunger Games” series — all of them. She ditched the 2012 election cycle and picked up a new job, making websites for guesthouses in exchange for room and board, and even made her own site: “Leaping into Life.” “I went on safari, learned Spanish, visited development projects, bummed around on beaches and wrote about all of it in my own voice for once — and not as a spokesperson,” Hunter said.

This sort of thing has also been described as “white people’s problems.”

96 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:28:40pm

re: #95 jaunte

Privilege got her into DC and privilege got her out.

97 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:28:46pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

These assholes have no idea how lucky they are that they can actually BE mobile and leave their soul sucking job. Oh boo hoo, I left DC and traveled to 11 countries, are you freaking KIDDING me? Our family can’t afford a weekend away to a place in the mountains a few hours away. JH Christ Esq, these people suck.

My husband took a job a little over a month ago which is turning out to be a nightmare. He’s salaried and they are expecting him to work 70 or more hours a week. He’s so exhausted I’m beginning to be concerned about his mental and physical health. So far in the last month he’s worked 278 hours. He’s getting paid for 160. So these people can kiss my ass. I’ll happily take their soul sucking job and live in a nice place with a shit ton of resources and they can take our lives. See how long one of these people lasts in a physical job working more hours than they would EVER consider working. The man just got home from a 12 hour day, on the weekend mind you and he barely had two bites of dinner and the fuckers called him to come and fix a broken door lock.

God this shit annoys me. Obviously,lol. Grrrrrrr.

98 Mattand  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:28:58pm

re: #57 Amory Blaine

This is hands down, the best place to buy ALL of your cables.

monoprice.com

Second that. I’ve actually stopped people in big box electronic stores from purchasing $30 HDMI cables and told them about Monoprice.

Same quality for literally 70% less.

99 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:29:11pm

re: #81 b_sharp

The worst part of aging is the time it takes for a year to go by. Every year I live takes subjectively less time, so right now a year is fairly short and my memories just a drop in the bucket.

Shut UP.

Although Mr. B, The best quote from Scott Simon’s mom, while he was tweeting her death, paraphrased: Listen to people in their 80’s…they’ve been looking at death for a decade, and will tell you what’s what.

100 Mattand  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:30:32pm

re: #97 A Mom Anon

These assholes have no idea how lucky they are that they can actually BE mobile and leave their soul sucking job. Oh boo hoo, I left DC and traveled to 11 countries, are you freaking KIDDING me? Our family can’t afford a weekend away to a place in the mountains a few hours away. JH Christ Esq, these people suck.

My husband took a job a little over a month ago which is turning out to be a nightmare. He’s salaried and they are expecting him to work 70 or more hours a week. He’s so exhausted I’m beginning to be concerned about his mental and physical health. So far in the last month he’s worked 278 hours. He’s getting paid for 160. So these people can kiss my ass. I’ll happily take their soul sucking job and live in a nice place with a shit ton of resources and they can take our lives. See how long one of these people lasts in a physical job working more hours than they would EVER consider working. The man just got home from a 12 hour day, on the weekend mind you and he barely had two bites of dinner and the fuckers called him to come and fix a broken door lock.

God this shit annoys me. Obviously,lol. Grrrrrrr.

This is why I grit my teeth when people trot out the “Well, at least you got a job” justification.

It’s also why we still need unions.

101 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:31:02pm

re: #96 Justanotherhuman

Privilege got her into DC and privilege got her out.

3rd from the right during her years of struggle.

Image: 20111212-001214.jpg

102 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:31:17pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

I seem to be seeing a lot of journalists lately with vastly over-inflated egos. Is that what they teach in J-school these days?

People with oversize egos are the most likely to go into journalism perhaps.

103 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:31:52pm

re: #97 A Mom Anon

Oh, and all those extra unpaid hours suck his hourly wage down to around 10 dollars an hour. These fucking bosses of his better give him a raise SOON.

104 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:33:27pm

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

All right, damn it, I’m 72 and I’m not going to listen to that bullshit any longer.

I’m still kicking life in the ass. I don’t even need glasses anymore, a fact of which I’m intensely proud. Surprised the hell out of me. I think some things are re-generating…

How did you fix your eyes?

105 AlexRogan  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:33:51pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

I seem to be seeing a lot of journalists lately with vastly over-inflated egos. Is that what they teach in J-school these days?

It’s the Twitter/Facebook/TMZ effect, combined with the “fuck you, I’ve got mine” selfishness of glibertarianism.

Walter Cronkite, Peter Jennings, and other old-line journalists are spinning in their graves fast enough to power Manhattan.

106 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:34:02pm

re: #97 A Mom Anon

Not to demean your epic post, but JH Christ Esq is a keeper.

107 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:34:22pm

Emoprognado cuts itself with its own debris.

108 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:35:41pm


“Not surprising?” Hmm. New Al Jazeera America. Or as I’m predicting, MSNBC II.

109 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:38:42pm

re: #97 A Mom Anon

They did that to me at work and I had to checked myself into a partial hospital program. I turned into a total basketcase. I return to work tomorrow and I’m scared to fucking death I’m going to fail my wife. (and myself of course.)

110 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:38:45pm

re: #106 Stanley Sea

You’re welcome. LOL.

111 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:40:13pm
112 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:40:45pm

re: #104 b_sharp

How did you fix your eyes?

They fixed themselves, after a lifetime of being myopic, about 7 yrs ago. And I never needed bifocals, either. I can read a telephone book quite easily. The optometrist called it “second sight”; sometimes it leads to cataracts, but nothing like that yet. Passed the DMV test for vision and license reflects no corrective lenses. : )

113 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:41:10pm

Are Alaskan bucket bongs frowned upon? The list is incomplete. ;)

114 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:41:12pm

OK, some ideas for why it’s not surprising:

A. Florida
B. 1972 Dolphins snobbery.
C. Old white guys.

115 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:41:47pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

They did that to me at work and I had to checked myself into a partial hospital program. I turned into a total basketcase. I return to work tomorrow and I’m scared to fucking death I’m going to fail my wife. (and myself of course.)

Good luck mate.

116 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:42:34pm

re: #112 Justanotherhuman

They fixed themselves, after a lifetime of being myopic, about 7 yrs ago. And I never needed bifocals, either. I can read a telephone book quite easily. The optometrist called it “second sight”; sometimes it leads to cataracts, but nothing like that yet. Passed the DMV test for vision and license reflects no corrective lenses. : )

Heading for your second childhood I assume.

117 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:43:09pm

My first thoughts were, IT’S NOT SURPRISING BECAUSE OBAMA IS A LYING TYRANT THAT’S READING OUR EMAILS AND BOMBING LAND KITTENS IN PAKISTAN WITH DRONES!!!!!!!!!

Maybe not then.

118 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:43:23pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

You will be fine. Got your back over the tubes.

119 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:43:32pm

re: #109 Amory Blaine

(((Oh GIANT HUGS)))) to you. That makes me so sad. My husband feels like he let me down because we just had our 20th anniversary which was supposed to be spent on a vacation to Yosemite, Sequoia and King’s Canyon National Parks. Sure, it’s my huge dream to do all that, but I love him more than what he can give me. The man has busted his hump for 20 yrs so I can be home to raise our autistic son. I’m sure your wife appreciates every moment you’ve worked for the betterment of your home and family. You can’t do anything if you’re sick or dead, including work. Try hard to be gentle with yourself, it’s ok not to be superman.

120 Mattand  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:43:52pm

re: #111 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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The label is funny.

It’s also kind of creepy, given what I’ve read about Seattle police and their love of diplomacy-by-nightstick.

121 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:45:06pm

Thanks for the kind words. :)

122 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:46:10pm

re: #116 b_sharp

Oh, funny, that. I do have a 3 yr old and a 22 yr old who are teaching me a few things, though. Young people energize me to no end. : )

Let’s just say I don’t live like ordinary old people do.

123 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:47:41pm

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

Oh, funny, that. I do have a 3 yr old and a 22 yr old who are teaching me a few things, though. Young people energize me to no end. : )

Let’s just say I don’t live like ordinary old people do.

I spend time with my 17yo and my 15mo grandkids too. The little guy just never stops, constantly expecting grandpa to play with him.

124 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:49:55pm
125 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:50:22pm

re: #123 b_sharp

That’s great! Let the g-children lead you for a while…and the 17 yr old, too. They count more than you know in your own education.

126 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:51:16pm

Heh.

127 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:52:24pm

Mike Grunwald has sure stirred up a hornets nest.

128 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:52:53pm
129 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:53:21pm
130 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:55:44pm

Follow up:


Splodey heads.

131 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:56:24pm
132 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:56:35pm

re: #128 Gus

Michael Grunwald ✔ @MikeGrunwald

I can’t wait to write a defense of the drone strike that takes out Julian Assange.

Uh oh. He’ll catch some major shit over that crack.

133 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:57:14pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

What, no helvetica?

134 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:57:51pm

re: #130 Gus

Well their heads were kinda mushy to start with so it wouldn’t take much.

135 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 4:58:50pm

re: #132 Charles Johnson

Uh oh. He’ll catch some major shit over that crack.

It’s pretty ironic that the usually irony prone emoprogs can’t detect irony.

136 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:00:10pm

re: #135 Gus

It’s pretty ironic that the usually irony prone emoprogs can’t detect irony.

Oh, they detect it, all right - but they’ll get all puffed up and pretend they don’t.

137 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:00:13pm

One of my friends just spent an hour telling me about his cancer and his treatments so far and what’s to come. Which of course, he doesn’t know all of. At least he’s insured and has a great wife and a lot of faith to support him.

138 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:00:50pm

Welp, he deleted it.

139 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:00:55pm

And… he deletes it.

140 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:01:03pm
141 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:02:19pm

The text version is saved in the Media Library:

littlegreenfootballs.com

142 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:03:03pm

Now the story’s going to be the deletion.

143 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:03:18pm

re: #108 Gus

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“Not surprising?” Hmm. New Al Jazeera America. Or as I’m predicting, MSNBC II.

OMG the comments.

We are a country of brainwashed idiots.

Question. Did the 72 Dolphin’s go to Clinton’s WH???

144 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:03:37pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Taste the Font

Synesthetes at work!

145 AlexRogan  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:04:25pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Welp, he deleted it.

The person he replied to isn’t wrong in their assumption, but the Assange supporters are still gonna get wind of the original tweet and bitch to high heaven.

The Internets is forever.

146 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:05:29pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

No beans on the traditional British breakfast, though. Fail. It’s more of an American breakfast. And no sausages, either.

147 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:06:51pm
148 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:07:34pm

Found on the feed of someone I don’t even follow.

149 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:07:57pm

Hmm. He looks right at home there.

150 Political Atheist  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:10:02pm

re: #102 b_sharp

It’s the result of the “go make a difference” school vs the um, actually report the news curriculum.

151 A Mom Anon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:10:32pm

Alrighty, husband’s back, we’re going to watch a movie and eat snacks in bed with the dog and the cat. Nite Lizards.

152 AlexRogan  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:12:41pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

Found on the feed of someone I don’t even follow.

Overheard in East Nashville: “When ya fry it, it locks in all the vitamins.”

— Otis Gibbs (@OtisGibbs) August 17, 2013

As an East Nashvillian, I resemble that remark…

///

153 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:12:41pm
154 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:15:59pm
155 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:16:36pm

Anyone know the identity of the artist?

156 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:18:50pm

No one?

157 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:19:01pm

Hiring in China By JPMorgan Under Scrutiny

dealbook.nytimes.com

“Federal authorities have opened a bribery investigation into whether JPMorgan Chase hired the children of powerful Chinese officials to help the bank win lucrative business in the booming nation, according to a confidential United States government document.”

158 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:20:45pm

re: #154 Gus


The subject in the drawing is wearing a kippah.

The tweeter is an ignorant bigot.

159 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:21:35pm
160 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:21:39pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

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The subject in the drawing is wearing a kippah.

The tweeter is an ignorant bigot.

161 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:22:07pm

re: #158 wrenchwench

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The subject in the drawing is wearing a kippah.

The tweeter is an ignorant bigot.

I think he deleted it.

162 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:22:37pm

And now…

163 Political Atheist  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:22:37pm

re: #160 Gus

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

Thanks for noticing—we’re going to fix it up and have things back to normal soon.

Got deleted fast…

164 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:22:57pm

re: #161 Charles Johnson

I think he deleted it.

Yep. Two deletes!

165 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:24:22pm

re: #163 Political Atheist

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

Thanks for noticing—we’re going to fix it up and have things back to normal soon.

Got deleted fast…

Welcome to the internets.

166 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:25:33pm
167 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:26:42pm

re: #166 Gus

Peter Capaldi, is that you?

168 Interesting Times  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:26:53pm

re: #165 Gus

Welcome to the internets.

Good freaking grief. You have to be a special brand of willfully stupid and ignorant not to see the blatant antisemitism there. It looks like it was lifted straight out of Nazi propaganda (like the anti-media cartoon the breitbrats circulated a while back)

169 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:27:46pm

Greenwald’s in a total rage about it. Tweeting over and over.

170 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:28:36pm

re: #168 Interesting Times

Good freaking grief. You have to be a special brand of willfully stupid and ignorant not to see the blatant antisemitism there. It looks like it was lifted straight out of Nazi propaganda (like the anti-media cartoon the breitbrats circulated a while back)

Oh look, he has another one.

171 Interesting Times  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:29:14pm

re: #168 Interesting Times

(like the anti-media cartoon the breitbrats circulated a while back)

This one.

172 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:29:52pm

re: #170 Gus

Oh look, he has another one.

Also notice how he responds. This asshole knows it’s antisemitic.

173 Interesting Times  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:31:42pm

re: #172 Gus

Also notice how he responds. This asshole knows it’s antisemitic.

I’m not sure what would be more effective - flagging that media or letting everyone see what a creepy little Stormfronter that douchebag wants to be (or already is)

174 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:37:22pm

re: #172 Gus

Also notice how he responds. This asshole knows it’s antisemitic.

He retweeted this.

175 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:37:31pm
176 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:40:54pm

Greenwald hasn’t tweeted for about 30 minutes now. I’d be willing to bet he’s burning up the phone line.

177 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:41:40pm

They’re going to push hard to get Grunwald fired over this. It was a pretty stupid thing to post on Twitter.

178 Interesting Times  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:42:51pm

re: #176 Charles Johnson

Greenwald hasn’t tweeted for about 30 minutes now. I’d be willing to bet he’s burning up the phone line.

Yup, he’s going to take a page from the breitbart/o’keefe playbook and release the hounds of OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1!!1!!ty

179 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:43:42pm

We’re never going to hear the end of it from Greenwald. He’s going to use it to reinforce his claim that Obamabot journalists are threatening his life.

180 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:43:53pm
181 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:46:53pm
182 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:47:22pm
183 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:47:53pm
184 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:49:16pm

Move to ghost job and back gives Capitol Police chief big raises

Gov. Scott Walker’s administration rewarded the new hardline Capitol Police chief and his top deputy with double-digit pay raises earlier this year after moving the pair on paper to phantom jobs for two weeks and then back to their real posts.

Chief Dave Erwin — who has overseen a crackdown on Walker protesters at the statehouse — received an overall salary hike of 11.7%, to $111,067 a year, the same rate as his predecessor. That amounts to an $11,680 annual raise.

That hefty raise was possible only because Walker officials transferred Erwin on Feb. 5 to a ghostposition in the state Department of Administration, according to a copy of the transfer letter obtained by the Journal Sentinel. Then, on the same day, he was shuffled back to his real job as head of the Capitol Police force.

Laser focused on at least 2 jobs…

185 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:49:29pm

Yikes.

186 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:50:15pm

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.

— Charles Darwin

187 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:51:28pm

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

Gus: Image: File:WyattMann_stuffyouwillhate.jpg

Nasty stuff.

Edit: Link to ‘encyclopedia dramatica’ is now gone.

188 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:51:38pm

Merry Christmas Glenn

189 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:54:43pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

Nasty stuff.

Lots more of that filth, too, on the main page.

190 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:55:07pm

arggh. please don’t link to that shit without warning, I was trying to have a no hate site Saturday…

191 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:55:15pm
192 Feline Fearless Leader  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:55:40pm

re: #186 Charles Johnson

I cannot persuade myself that a beneficent and omnipotent God would have designedly created parasitic wasps with the express intention of their feeding within the living bodies of Caterpillars.

— Charles Darwin

Carl Zimmer’s _Parasite Rex_ is a real good short tome on this subject for a layman’s education on how parasites have driven creature evolution to some degree. Part of the on-going arms race that is Life.

amazon.com

193 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:56:22pm

re: #187 wrenchwench

Nasty stuff.

A. Wyatt Mann

194 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:56:33pm

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

Gus: Image: File:WyattMann_stuffyouwillhate.jpg

Thanks!

195 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:57:36pm
196 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:58:13pm

(That’s not the real Bill Murray. Still funny, though.)

197 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:58:37pm

re: #190 Randall Gross

arggh. please don’t link to that shit without warning, I was trying to have a no hate site Saturday…

Sorry.

198 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 5:59:00pm
199 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:01:20pm

re: #198 Belligerent Centrist

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The backlash was worse than the original tweet. I think he was trying to make a joke, but it was pretty dumb.

200 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:02:33pm

Whatever you do DONT click on the “I am offended” link at that site.

Don’t fucking do it!!!! I’m not fucking around!

:(

201 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:03:05pm

re: #197 wrenchwench

np friend.

202 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:03:31pm
Michael Grunwald ✔ @MikeGrunwald

It was a dumb tweet. I’m sorry. I deserve the backlash. (Maybe not the anti-Semitic stuff but otherwise I asked for it.)

He does deserve the backlash. I’d actually never heard of him before this, but that’s just a very stupid thing to do, on a whole lot of levels. And the first level is that you just don’t wish death on anyone.

Maybe Hitler. Possibly Pol Pot. Anyone else, just shut up.

203 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:04:23pm

War on Drugs: Much Worse Than Soul-Crushing.


Exclusive: U.S. directs agents to cover up program used to investigate Americans

A secretive U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration unit is funneling information from intelligence intercepts, wiretaps, informants and a massive database of telephone records to authorities across the nation to help them launch criminal investigations of Americans.

Although these cases rarely involve national security issues, documents reviewed by Reuters show that law enforcement agents have been directed to conceal how such investigations truly begin - not only from defense lawyers but also sometimes from prosecutors and judges.

The undated documents show that federal agents are trained to “recreate” the investigative trail to effectively cover up where the information originated, a practice that some experts say violates a defendant’s Constitutional right to a fair trial. If defendants don’t know how an investigation began, they cannot know to ask to review potential sources of exculpatory evidence - information that could reveal entrapment, mistakes or biased witnesses.

[…]

204 bubba zanetti  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:04:41pm


205 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:04:47pm

re: #200 Amory Blaine

Whatever you do DONT click on the “I am offended” link at that site.

Don’t fucking do it!!!! I’m not fucking around!

:(

Should I kill the link to that site?

206 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:05:17pm

Yes please.

207 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:05:32pm

re: #204 bubba zanetti

Good. It’s a wake-up call.

208 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:05:41pm

re: #204 bubba zanetti

Was kind of hoping she’d change her mind about some folks….

209 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:07:09pm

re: #206 Amory Blaine

Yes please.

Done.

210 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:07:51pm

!

211 wrenchwench  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:12:21pm
212 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:12:25pm

Trying to find out more about this Australia First thing.

213 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:13:30pm

I laughed. This was my response to Grunwald ironic Tweet.

214 Stanley Sea  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:13:32pm

re: #211 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

You never fail. Muchas Gracias WW!

215 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:15:14pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

Taste the Font

I was afraid this was going to be a Ted Nugent album title.

216 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:22:46pm

re: #212 Gus

Trying to find out more about this Australia First thing.

Rightwing, anti-immigrant: australiafirstparty.net

Australia’s Tea Party?

217 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:23:48pm
218 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:25:04pm

Gus, this should tell you something about their direction.

Australia First Party welcomes Golden Dawn office to Melbourne

australiafirstparty.net

219 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:27:35pm

Oslo attacks. Norway had it coming.
— Greenwald

Yep.

220 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:28:16pm

re: #218 Justanotherhuman

Gus, this should tell you something about their direction.

Australia First Party welcomes Golden Dawn office to Melbourne

australiafirstparty.net

Whoa now.

221 alpuz  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:30:44pm

re: #184 Amory Blaine

Is Huebsch still the head honcho at DOA? Why yes, yes he is.

How he slips under the radar here in Wisconsin baffles me. $7,000,000 Capitol clean up costs jotted on a freakin’ piece of notebook paper. Sigh.

222 Political Atheist  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:32:09pm

re: #220 Belligerent Centrist

What a nic. You and Radical Moderate .

223 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:33:53pm

The only thing soul crushing about DC is finding a parking spot if you were silly enough to drive there.

224 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:35:02pm
225 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:35:24pm

re: #220 Belligerent Centrist

Whoa now.

Belligerent Centrists Unite!

226 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:35:49pm

re: #223 Pavlovian Hive Mind

The only thing soul crushing about DC is finding a parking spot if you were silly enough to drive there.

I dunno. I went to a bar in Georgetown with some friends once and that was pretty soul crushing. : )

227 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:35:51pm
228 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:36:04pm
229 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:36:14pm

re: #226 Justanotherhuman

I dunno. I went to a bar in Georgetown with some friends once and that was pretty soul crushing. : )

You in the DC area?

230 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:37:02pm
231 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:37:31pm
232 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:39:50pm

re: #229 Pavlovian Hive Mind

You in the DC area?

No, I live in NC. That was years ago when I lived in Philly.

233 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:40:22pm
234 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:41:46pm

It’s always the libertarians….
:/

235 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:41:53pm


Vomit.

236 Political Atheist  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:42:22pm

re: #223 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Mr. Cynic sez
“Soul Sucking” DC. The perfect breeding ground for the last people you ever want to be actually in charge. Where a particular constitutional amendment could be proudly set aside until the Supreme Court stepped up. House Of Cards baby.

237 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:42:39pm

re: #219 Gus

I get a distinctly knee-jerk reaction when someone says something like that, especially in regards to Norway.

238 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:43:34pm

Dear DC Exiles,
HTFU.

239 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:46:10pm

re: #238 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Dear DC Exiles,
HTFU.

One of them has been on this world wide global tour while spending some time in DC before her start-up venture.

240 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:46:26pm

re: #238 Pavlovian Hive Mind

I noticed with my conservative friends that they tend to be sensitive when I criticize their politics. Especially more libertarian-minded ones.

I have just gotten to the point that I will dish back as hard as I get.

241 dog philosopher  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:46:57pm

emoprog

i wanted to stake out a little sociopolitical positioning for myself, since it seems i am more opposed to the surveillance and tracking pixel society we have all landed ourselves in than the prevailing opinion on this site. be this as it may, i object to thereby getting lumped in w these persons who are shocked, shocked to find out that the obama administration is conducting drone strikes and surveillance, and - heaven forfend - lying. and because of this, declaring that the administration is no different than republicans and that they will no longer support democrats against republicans because their virginity has been tarnished and they cannot support politicians who have sinned

it annoys me to get classified w these people because it was exactly that attitude that drove me away from another blog

on the other hand, while i voted for obama w the full knowledge that i didn’t like his position on the “patriot” act, and i am not surprised one bit by the snowden revelations, i am not reassured by the administration’s relatively reasonable and open attitude about surveillance actvities, and continue to distrust everybody involved, for the following reasons:

1. i don’t believe anything i hear and only half of what i see
2. it ain’t what they tell us about that worries me, it’s what they don’t tell us
3. no matter how many safeguards are put in place, there is always the potential for all that data to be abused. and i’m sure sooner or later it will be

so, let me stake out a third position: i’m not an emoprog, since i’m not at all shocked to find out that the obama admin conducts surveillance and drone strikes, and i still support him given that in the real world the alternative is republicans who to my way of thinking DELENDA EST, but on the other hand i remain skeptical about the openness, harmlessness, and even necessity, of our wonderful shiny new federal surveillance apparatus

242 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:46:57pm

re: #233 Gus

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Huh? I agree with this, having been in that position.

“A spokeswoman for Rape Crisis told the BBC Mr Galloway was factually incorrect.

“She said: “Having had consensual sex with a woman once does not give a man licence to then have sex with her again at any time and in any way he pleases and assume consent is given.

“By the same token, having had consensual sex with someone once does not mean a woman has forever forfeited her right to withdraw or refuse her consent to further sex with that person.

Sex without consent is rape. Mr Galloway’s description of such sexual violence as ‘really bad manners’ is offensive and deeply concerning.” (my emphasis)

243 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:48:32pm

re: #222 Political Atheist

What a nic. You and Radical Moderate .

What the hell did I do?

244 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:48:33pm

Off to bed.

245 b_sharp  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:53:27pm

re: #234 Pavlovian Hive Mind

It’s always the libertarians….
:/

What do you have against librarians?

246 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:53:53pm
247 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:55:29pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

He retweeted this.

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re: #191 Belligerent Centrist

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I can honestly say that I saw this coming.

White nationalists (especially those on Stormfront and VNN) have made it a habit recently of photoshopping anti-Semitic images on Ben Garrison cartoons (whose own track record on such things isn’t exactly stellar either).

This will only get worse.
edit: And no, I am not going to link those images.

248 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:56:06pm

Fascists are joining forces. Oh joy.

249 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:57:04pm

re: #235 Gus

“Toward the end, I just felt like I was suffocating.”

A/C went out in the Mercedes?

250 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 6:57:58pm

re: #249 Amory Blaine

“Toward the end, I just felt like I was suffocating.”

A/C went out in the Mercedes?

They closed the yoga room for painting.

251 RadicalModerate  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:06:28pm

re: #248 Amory Blaine

Fascists are joining forces. Oh joy.

This isn’t exactly new. The allegiances between neo-fascist and so-called “race realist” groups in the US and Europe, especially over the past few years has been well-documented.

252 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:10:21pm

re: #251 RadicalModerate

This isn’t exactly new. The allegiances between neo-fascist and so-called “race realist” groups in the US and Europe, especially over the past few years has been well-documented.

It’s a scary alliance but yeah nothing new. The fact that we’ve seen quote mainstream right wing groups in this country embrace openly neo-Nazi parties like the BNP, EDL, and others though shows you how the right is growing more and more nativist.

253 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:13:24pm
254 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:15:53pm

re: #253 Gus

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It would be irresponsible not to ask.

255 dog philosopher  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:17:25pm

re: #246 Belligerent Centrist

William Gibson ✔ @GreatDismal

Anarchists, Libertarians. One beast, two backs?

in practice, i should say ‘yes’

and is that the william gibson???

256 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:18:11pm

Stormfront became a branch of the Assange tree. Well, I saw a common ideology from the onset. Israel.

257 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:18:24pm

re: #254 b.d.

It would be irresponsible not to ask.

Always!

258 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:18:34pm

Trying to find the section in that Campus Reform interview where Assange supports the Australia First Party…

259 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:19:44pm
260 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:21:45pm
261 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:22:50pm

re: #256 Gus

Stormfront became a branch of the Assange tree. Well, I saw a common ideology from the onset. Israel.

The Ron Paul far right is deeply connected with the subterranean racist network, the Taft Club, Pat Buchanan, American Renaissance, Stormfront, etc.

262 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:24:12pm

There are some people at Daily Kos trying to play chicken with the Greensnow cultists. It’s not all bleak over there.

263 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:27:25pm

Julian Assange on the WikiLeaks Party:

“The party will combine a small, centralised leadership with maximum grass roots involvement and support. By relying on decentralised Wikipedia-style, user-generated content structures, it will do without apparatchiks.
THE PARTY WILL BE INCORRUPTIBLE AND IDEOLOGICALLY UNITED!!!”
en.wikipedia.org

264 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:28:29pm

re: #259 Gus

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The poster of that Daily Kos diary always seems to post whatever Greenwald tweets about 2 seconds after he tweets it.

265 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:29:00pm

re: #264 b.d.

The poster of that Daily Kos diary always seems to post whatever Greenwald tweets about 2 seconds after he tweets it.

Honestly. I didn’t look.

266 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:29:45pm

re: #265 Gus

Honestly. I didn’t look.

No point in it really.

267 Velvet Elvis  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:30:14pm

I was a teenaged anarchist. Anarchism is generally collectivist whereas libertarianism is social Darwinism.

268 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:30:32pm

re: #263 jaunte

Julian Assange on the WikiLeaks Party:

Yeah good luck with that one Julian.//

269 BongCrodny  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:31:07pm

re: #263 jaunte

Julian Assange on the WikiLeaks Party:

“The party will combine a small, centralised leadership with maximum grass roots involvement and support. By relying on decentralised Wikipedia-style, user-generated content structures, it will do without apparatchiks.
THE PARTY WILL BE INCORRUPTIBLE AND IDEOLOGICALLY UNITED!!!”

EIN VOLK EIN REICH EIN FUHRER! EIN VOLK EIN REICH EIN FUHRER!!

270 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:31:57pm

Libertarianism works great if you want to ignore realities that exist. In some ways, I see libertarians as reminiscent of the anarchist/socialist types you meet in college. There’s a lot of idealism but not a lot of wanting to live in the world we live in.

271 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:32:16pm

re: #266 b.d.

No point in it really.

It’s Saturday night.

272 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:32:30pm

re: #268 HappyWarrior

It’s always a little strange when someone starts talking about “incorruptible” political parties.

273 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:33:43pm

re: #272 jaunte

It’s always a little strange when someone starts talking about “incorruptible” political parties.

I found that one funny considering Assenge’s admiration of Luap Nor and Luap Dnar since Luap Nor was named as one of Congress’s most crooked members his latter years in Congress.

274 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:34:25pm

I assume Assange’s party will be working with the standard human members. Of course, unified with a small centralized leadership.

275 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:35:08pm

The most hilarious though are idiots who think they’re revolutionaries by supporting Ron Paul. Yeah let’s support a man who wants to bring back the economic policies that led to the Depression and would have furthered it! And did I mention that some of his biggest allies are white supremacists? Yay Ron Paul.//

276 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:35:57pm

Assange is a dick. “Mr. Grunwald, what would you care to drink tonight?”

277 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:37:24pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

The most hilarious though are idiots who think they’re revolutionaries by supporting Ron Paul. Yeah let’s support a man who wants to bring back the economic policies that led to the Depression and would have furthered it! And did I mention that some of his biggest allies are white supremacists? Yay Ron Paul.//

But his stance against Abraham Lincoln is so edgy.

Youtube Video

278 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:37:35pm
279 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:37:45pm

re: #277 bratwurst

But his stance against Abraham Lincoln is so edgy.

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and he wants to legalize pot so he like totally understands us.

280 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:39:51pm
281 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:40:51pm

You know what, even if Paul didn’t write those newsletters(I believe he did) but even if not, it shows an unbelievable amount of shitty judgment to let someone write the stuff that was written in those newsletters but we’re supposed to see Ron Paul as a trustworthy watchdog with our best interests at heart when he allegedly couldn’t even prevent a newsletter written in his name from writing white supremacist bullshit? Ron Paul was and always should be regarded as an extreme kook who shouldn’t have been elected to any position higher than town idiot.

282 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:41:23pm

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

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Bury me upside down so that my enemies can kiss my ass at my grave.

283 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:41:53pm

re: #270 HappyWarrior

Libertarianism works great if you want to ignore realities that exist. In some ways, I see libertarians as reminiscent of the anarchist/socialist types you meet in college. There’s a lot of idealism but not a lot of wanting to live in the world we live in.

Ah, libertarianism…

Is it “a gentle word turns away wrath. Then when wrath’s back is turned shoot it in the head (where wrath = anything interfering with my greed)” today or is it “all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others” today?

284 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:42:17pm

re: #283 William Barnett-Lewis

Ah, libertarianism…

Is it “a gentle word turns away wrath. Then when wrath’s back is turned shoot it in the head (where wrath = anything interfering with my greed)” today or is it “all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others” today?

Well spoken. And to add, any government involvement in anything is “statism.”

285 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:43:34pm

re: #256 Gus

Stormfront became a branch of the Assange tree.

wait, what?

286 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:44:39pm

re: #285 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

wait, what?

Don Black. Ron Paul. “He’s one of us.”

287 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:45:37pm

re: #275 HappyWarrior

The most hilarious though are idiots who think they’re revolutionaries by supporting Ron Paul. Yeah let’s support a man who wants to bring back the economic policies that led to the Depression and would have furthered it! And did I mention that some of his biggest allies are white supremacists? Yay Ron Paul.//

Youtube Video

288 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:47:57pm

re: #287 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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So frigging true. Though they really don’t hit on how self-righteous they can be. It’s like if you disagree with Ron Paul and do so strongly, you’re obviously part of the problem and the grand conspiracy to deny us freedom and you certainly don’t understand the Constitution because only Ron Paul and Ron Paul’s supporters do.

289 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 7:55:26pm

re: #262 Belligerent Centrist

There are some people at Daily Kos trying to play chicken with the Greensnow cultists. It’s not all bleak over there.

I hope they win. They lose and the Kos is sunk.

290 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:01:28pm

re: #289 Dark_Falcon

I hope they win. They lose and the Kos is sunk.

I have a brand new $5 bill for the 1st person to post in that Daily Kos diary that Grunwald tweeted what he did because he hates rapists.

291 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:07:44pm

Why do I feel more and more certain that ‘16 is gonna be a political clusterfuck of epic proportions?

292 abolitionist  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:09:38pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

Why do I feel more and more certain that ‘16 is gonna be a political clusterfuck of epic proportions?

It’s 50 years after 1968?

293 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:10:39pm

re: #291 Targetpractice

Why do I feel more and more certain that ‘16 is gonna be a political clusterfuck of epic proportions?

Yeah, it’s going to be. I just hope we don’t make a mistake of epic proportions at the polls.

294 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:11:54pm

Guy Mitchell - Heartache by the Numbers 50s (clean version)

Youtube Video

295 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:12:09pm

re: #293 HappyWarrior

Yeah, it’s going to be. I just hope we don’t make a mistake of epic proportions at the polls.

Knowing the luck of this nation, Son of Paul will run on the GOP ticket and draw enough TPers and emoprogs to win. That happens, I’m getting the fuck out of this country.

296 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:13:27pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

Knowing the luck of this nation, Son of Paul will run on the GOP ticket and draw enough TPers and emoprogs to win. That happens, I’m getting the fuck out of this country.

Agh, yeah I feel ya. A Rand Paul run U.S would not be a pleasant country to live in.

297 b.d.  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:17:31pm

re: #295 Targetpractice

Knowing the luck of this nation, Son of Paul will run on the GOP ticket and draw enough TPers and emoprogs to win. That happens, I’m getting the fuck out of this country.

Paul has learned from daddy well and it also looks like he studied Ross Perot. He is a crazed loon who wants to bring back an America that never was and he’s slick enough to sucker a bunch of people into voting for him

298 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:20:55pm

re: #297 b.d.

Paul has learned from daddy well and it also looks like he studied Ross Perot. He is a crazed loon who wants to bring back an America that never was and he’s slick enough to sucker a bunch of people into voting for him

In many a way, I think he’s worse than his Dad. Thing is, as a Senator he’s able to claim some mantle of credibility that his father could never by being a mere Congressman. And of course, he’s younger too. I wouldn’t be shocked if he was seriously vetted for VP if he didn’t win the primary because you know the GOP establishment is desperate to get back in to power and while they probably disagree with some of Paul’s more kookier views, they’re willing to overlook that if they think, it means they’ll get their guy in the WH.

299 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:22:02pm

re: #297 b.d.

Paul has learned from daddy well and it also looks like he studied Ross Perot. He is a crazed loon who wants to bring back an America that never was and he’s slick enough to sucker a bunch of people into voting for him

True, but then again daddy could never do all that well in the polls and even Perot, as popular as he was, didn’t do well enough at the polls to do more than sap the GOP’s strength in both years that he ran. And I’m fairly convinced that if he actually won the nomination, libertarianism would get the sort of in-depth look that causes it to fall apart like wet tissue paper.

300 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:23:38pm
301 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:23:58pm

I still contend that nominee will be someone not Christie or Paul. Christie’s allenated far too much of the base to be viable and Paul, I think will have some growing pains when his views that are less than savory to the base are brought up. If he hadn’t been weakened by immigration, my money would be on Rubio.

302 Gus  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:27:58pm
303 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:28:55pm

re: #301 HappyWarrior

I still contend that nominee will be someone not Christie or Paul. Christie’s allenated far too much of the base to be viable and Paul, I think will have some growing pains when his views that are less than savory to the base are brought up. If he hadn’t been weakened by immigration, my money would be on Rubio.

Really, out of all the current GOP “hopefuls,” the only one that’s not lugging a millstone around his neck is Paul. Ryan and Rubio have both damaged their brands by supporting “amnesty,” while Ryan also has the stink of ‘12 on his resume. And Christie’s persona non grata, who will probably have to settle for running for Congress before he can consider a presidential run.

304 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:31:34pm

re: #303 Targetpractice

Really, out of all the current GOP “hopefuls,” the only one that’s not lugging a millstone around his neck is Paul. Ryan and Rubio have both damaged their brands by supporting “amnesty,” while Ryan also has the stink of ‘12 on his resume. And Christie’s persona non grata, who will probably have to settle for running for Congress before he can consider a presidential run.

It’s going to be interesting because for the first time in a while, they have no next batter up. McCain was that in 2008 having lost to Bush in 2000 and Romney was that this past year having lost to McCain. There is Santorum but I honestly don’t know if he’d run again and I think he lacks the popularity with the corporate donors that one needs to win.

305 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:33:42pm

Honestly I hope the Democrats nominate someone presently out of D.C. I don’t dislike Hillary and she would make a good president IMO but my eyes would be on someone like Martin O’Malley should he so choose to run. I know Maryland’s a blue of blue state but I thought it was interesting that he did better in his re-election in a very Republican year as opposed to his election year which was a Democratic one.. And his opponent wasn’t some kook. Never been an Ehrlich fan but Ehrlich was probably one of the least nutty people nominated by the GOP in 2010 for governor or senator or representative.

306 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:37:31pm
307 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:39:04pm

re: #306 Lidane

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Wow that is too cool.

308 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:40:58pm

re: #304 HappyWarrior

The “batter up” is Paul Ryan, Romney’s running mate.

I’m guessing that part of the Romney Rehabilitation effort the past 9 months has been to ease the stink off of Romney, so when Ryan starts to throw out serious feelers he won’t have such an odeur d’Romney about him.

309 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:41:06pm

re: #306 Lidane

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That really isn’t ‘abandoned’, though. It was placed down there, where it could only be viewed by divers.

310 jaunte  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:41:17pm

re: #306 Lidane

Sculptor Jason deCaires Taylor
underwatersculpture.com

311 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:41:58pm

re: #305 HappyWarrior

I’m so hoping that the Democrats don’t put all their eggs in the Hillary basket. There are plenty of young and aspirational Democrat politicians out there.

312 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:44:03pm

re: #311 freetoken

I’m so hoping that the Democrats don’t put all their eggs in the Hillary basket. There are plenty of young and aspirational Democrat politicians out there.

Fortunately Democrats don’t do the next batter up thing like Republicans do. It’s why we got Obama instead of Hillary in 2008 and that’s a decision I am glad that Democratic voters made. But yeah, I’m with you. There’s a lot of good young Democrats out there who would make as good presidents as Hillary but wouldn’t have the baggage. I don’t dislike her but I really don’t want to relive the 90’s in the ad wars.

313 HappyWarrior  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 8:50:43pm

re: #310 jaunte

Sculptor Jason deCaires Taylor
underwatersculpture.com

I always wish I could be an artist. Attended my cousin’s son’s first musical show tonight and the way he rocked that bass made me wish I had taken an instrument in school. I know it’s not too late but damn it, I wish I had learned an instrument.

314 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:04:57pm
315 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:06:22pm

Trending on Twitter now:

#GOPOlympicEvents

316 Targetpractice  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 9:20:36pm

re: #315 Lidane

Trending on Twitter now:

#GOPOlympicEvents

Synchronized Lying

317 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 10:20:20pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

I always wish I could be an artist. Attended my cousin’s son’s first musical show tonight and the way he rocked that bass made me wish I had taken an instrument in school. I know it’s not too late but damn it, I wish I had learned an instrument.

You know what’s really fun and easy to pick up? A soprano recorder. Yeah, they get looked down on but there is some seriously cool music in the recorder repertory, especially renaissance & baroque era stuff.

318 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 10:23:32pm

re: #311 freetoken

I’m so hoping that the Democrats don’t put all their eggs in the Hillary basket. There are plenty of young and aspirational Democrat politicians out there.

I am very tired of the Hillary push. She did a very good job as Secretary of State. Now it’s time to let go. I only wish Gabrielle Giffords would be up to the strain by 2016…

319 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 10:49:50pm

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

Let’s eat Grandma!

Let’s eat, Grandma!

Punctuation saves lives!!

320 Lidane  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 10:53:42pm

re: #311 freetoken

I’m so hoping that the Democrats don’t put all their eggs in the Hillary basket. There are plenty of young and aspirational Democrat politicians out there.

I’d love to see a newer, younger face for the Dems. Nothing against Hillary, but I want to see the party moving forward. There’s got to be someone out there.

321 bratwurst  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 10:55:08pm
322 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:24:26pm

re: #192 Feline Fearless Leader

Carl Zimmer’s _Parasite Rex_ is a real good short tome on this subject for a layman’s education on how parasites have driven creature evolution to some degree. Part of the on-going arms race that is Life.

amazon.com

That is little consolation to the devoured. ;-)

323 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:27:11pm

re: #308 freetoken

The “batter up” is Paul Ryan, Romney’s running mate.

I’m guessing that part of the Romney Rehabilitation effort the past 9 months has been to ease the stink off of Romney, so when Ryan starts to throw out serious feelers he won’t have such an odeur d’Romney about him.

McCain and Romney could BOTH have been good and reasonable candidates, if not for the pressure of the insane far right (and the fact they were weak enough to cave into them). That’s part of what the (rightful) griping here (including mine) is about. I expect the pattern to continue.

324 freetoken  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:46:43pm

re: #323 SidewaysQuark

As far as I could tell both McCain and Romney had very serious flaws, and I would not vote for either. They may not be the drooling mouth breathers that the know-nothing right seems to envision as the perfect alpha male, but still, both were quite willing to sell out to right-wing hate machine.

325 Kragar  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:47:55pm

re: #324 freetoken

As far as I could tell both McCain and Romney had very serious flaws, and I would not vote for either. They may not be the drooling mouth breathers that the know-nothing right seems to envision as the perfect alpha male, but still, both were quite willing to sell out to right-wing hate machine.

I regret to say I voted for McCain, though I wised up soon after that.

326 Amory Blaine  Sat, Aug 17, 2013 11:57:50pm

re: #325 Kragar

Don’t feel bad. I voted for Edwards in the 2004 primary. :p

327 dog philosopher  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:00:07am

re: #320 Lidane

I’d love to see a newer, younger face for the Dems. Nothing against Hillary, but I want to see the party moving forward. There’s got to be someone out there.

elizabeth warren and cory booker are the ones i consider comers

328 dog philosopher  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:06:57am

altho i must say corey booker worries me

with his spectacular acts of heroism, i worry about the possibility of an equally spectacular fall from grace

329 Kragar  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:12:53am

re: #328 engineer cat

altho i must say corey booker worries me

with his spectacular acts of heroism, i worry about the possibility of an equally spectacular fall from grace

As long as his genitals don’t end up online, we should be okay.
/

330 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:18:36am
331 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:24:56am

...

332 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:27:45am

re: #328 engineer cat

altho i must say corey booker worries me

with his spectacular acts of heroism, i worry about the possibility of an equally spectacular fall from grace

I know what you mean. Weiner, Jesse Jackson Jr. I like a more slow and steady wins the race attitude.

333 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 12:45:07am

re: #332 prairiefire

I know what you mean. Weiner, Jesse Jackson Jr. I like a more slow and steady wins the race attitude.

Adlai Stevenson II ?

334 prairiefire  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 1:37:55am

re: #333 freetoken

Adlai Stevenson II ?

Absolutely. Mr. Obama is going to have to start to talking to some young Democrats in pawn positions. He’s done poorly in supporting the House, imho.
I can remember when my hippie mom mentioned A. S. as an option and my pop went nuts.

335 Amory Blaine  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 1:46:46am

Anti-abortion activist gets 10 years for murder plot

After Ralph Lang was caught plotting to kill a doctor at a Madison Planned Parenthood clinic, he never disavowed the plan or said he wouldn’t try again, and that makes him a dangerous man, a Dane County judge said Friday.

Circuit Judge Nicholas McNamara sentenced Lang to 10 years in prison for his 2011 plot, which was foiled when he accidentally fired his gun inside a Madison motel room and then told police what he planned to do at the Planned Parenthood clinic.

…….

Lang was arrested on May 25, 2011, after he accidentally fired a gun in his room at the Motel 6, 1754 Thierer Road, not far from the Planned Parenthood clinic on Madison’s Far East Side. When police came to investigate he told them of his plan to find and kill a doctor who performs abortions at the clinic.

During testimony at his trial, Lang admitted that he had told police he wished he had a machine gun to “mow down” the clinic’s staff. (emphasis mine)

McNamara told Lang that despite many opportunities, Lang has not said that what he did was wrong or given anyone the impression that he intends not to pursue his plan once he is free, and that makes him a dangerous person.

336 dog philosopher  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 1:49:31am

re: #333 freetoken

Adlai Stevenson II ?

“Governor, you have the vote of every thinking person!”

“That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!”

337 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:01:06am
338 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:05:38am

“Santa Barbara turned out to be just another Fresno, by the sea.”

Start watching around 20:00 :

Youtube Video

339 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:22:36am

All those academics, and they still fail to state and answer the real question.

Which is this - Why should I care about all this because I will be long dead?

340 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:36:18am

re: #339 freetoken

All those academics, and they still fail to state and answer the real question.

Which is this - Why should I care about all this because I will be long dead?

But humans care a ton about stuff that’ll happen after their long dead.

341 freetoken  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 2:36:42am

Sexy atheist babe takes on Ray Comfort:

Youtube Video

342 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 3:26:44am

re: #341 freetoken

Ray Comfort=another run of the mill grifter, IMHO. My schtick, when the evangies come knocking on my door (because I avoid them otherwise), is to look at them, say “I’m not interested” and shut the door, just as I would any other sales person.

343 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 4:41:21am

Good Morning :)

344 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 4:43:51am

re: #335 Amory Blaine

The scary part of that is he’s going to get out of jail at some point. Also scary, groups like Operation Rescue and Army of God may decide he’s a good little martyr for the cause and keep encouraging him while he’s in jail. He’s got no remorse at all, prison isn’t going to be the best place for him to learn compassion or empathy either.

This is something I really wish “tough on crime” advocates understood when they calm down after their stupid, moronic prison rape jokes. Most people in prison are going to get out one day. They’re going to be re-entering a society that often thinks they weren’t punished enough. Where an education and a job(which are a big part of not winding back up in prison) are not even close to easy to find. Do these advocates for harsh treatment in prisons want someone who has been beat up and raped repeatedly or just treated like total shit for a decade showing up in their neighborhoods? Watching their kids walk to school or hanging out with friends or watching to see when their wives are home alone?

I saw on TV yesterday that for every 5 prisoners there is one prison employee watching after them, and often abusing them or engaged in illegal activity involving them. We’re spending more money on prisons than on schools and mental health care. Don’t you wish your kid’s school had one teacher for every 5 kids? If we invested there instead of after the fact, maybe we wouldn’t need so many prisons.

345 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:02:01am

re: #344 A Mom Anon

Prison “culture” reflects the mindset of those types also. Prisoners look up to the most authoritarian and brutal of the population in gangs who prey on those who don’t adhere to their “code”. There’s no democracy among prison populations.

346 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:10:22am

American al Qaeda militant urges attacks on U.S. diplomats

news.yahoo.com

“Adam Gadahn, a California-born convert to Islam with a $1 million U.S. price on his head, appealed to wealthy Muslims to offer militants rewards to kill ambassadors in the region, citing bounty set for killing the U.S. ambassador to Yemen, Washington-based SITE monitoring group said.

“These prizes have a great effect in instilling fear in the hearts of our cowardly enemies,” Gadahn said in the 39-minute video recording in Arabic posted on websites used by Islamist militants, according to SITE.”

347 Flounder  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:13:21am

re: #345 Justanotherhuman

An interesting show to watch is “Locked Up”. It films the inmates inside prison, gangs and all. What struck me the most, was the sheer amount of mental illness that presents itself. Some of these men and women seem to have the mentality of a school kid. Being the cruel conservative that I am, it still breaks my heart, some of these folks shouldn’t be in there to be preyed upon and made harder criminals. The gangs are also far better oranized than you would imagine.

348 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:18:34am

re: #346 Justanotherhuman

American al Qaeda militant urges attacks on U.S. diplomats

news.yahoo.com

“Adam Gadahn, a California-born convert to Islam with a $1 million U.S. price on his head, appealed to wealthy Muslims to offer militants rewards to kill ambassadors in the region, citing bounty set for killing the U.S. ambassador to Yemen, Washington-based SITE monitoring group said.

“These prizes have a great effect in instilling fear in the hearts of our cowardly enemies,” Gadahn said in the 39-minute video recording in Arabic posted on websites used by Islamist militants, according to SITE.”

That guy seriously needs to loosen up. My suggestion would be an ATGM enema.

349 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:25:49am

re: #347 Flounder

I can’t watch those shows, to me it’s just so horribly sad.

I wish this country would get smart about incarceration. I’m not saying we should treat prisoners like they’re on vacation, but there HAS to be rehabilitation in the equation somewhere. There is a lot of mental illness involved in prison populations that is rarely addressed either. Gang activity is a huge issue too. How gangs end up running prisons shows me that the people working in those places are not at all well trained. Again, we have a societal institution that shouldn’t be for profit or run like a business with short term thinking. Then there’s overcrowding too, and violent offenders placed with non violent ones. We have all these facilities, why can we not separate criminals into catagories keeping violent repeat offenders in the most secure places, creating mental health facility type prisons(with compassionate and educated staff and the proper security for them) and having a bottom tier of prisons for non violent criminals? We need programs not just in prisons but in the communities prisoners are going to be released into.

We always seem to invest the majority of our resources into shit that does more harm than good and ignore investing in our own people and communities. Everything is about profit margins and greed, I personally think our prison system reflects that just about as well as anything else. It’s a symptom of a much larger disease.

350 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:30:33am

re: #347 Flounder

re: #349 A Mom Anon

I highly recommend a documentary called “The House I Live In”. It’s on Netflix.

Trailer:

Youtube Video

351 A Mom Anon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:39:59am

re: #350 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Going in the queue now, thanks.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Reagan would have been a more liberal president and governor. It seems like so much terrible precedent was set during that time that just snowballed.

352 Mattand  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:46:20am

re: #343 PhillyPretzel

Good Morning :)

Yo.

I was thinking about biking around Fairmount Park today, but it looks the weather isn’t going to co-operate. Love that ride.

353 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:51:02am

re: #349 A Mom Anon

Agree. And so many are simple drug abusers who get into crime to support their habits. My thinking is that anyone who has to use drugs on a daily basis to get through life has a lot of unresolved issues the drugs won’t cure—a lot of people self-medicate with them. Those people won’t get the help they need, the intensive counseling that can be bought by those with money. This is why it infuriates me to hear some talking about legalizing all drugs (another “white boy” libertarian issue). Even alcohol, a legal drug, has caused untold misery because people use it to cover up other issues. Not everyone can handle these substances, even in a social context, and to dump more substances on the market is irresponsible, IMHO, and in my mind, the pharms & medical community contribute to the problem.

I’m not talking out of my ass about this, because I’ve seen the consequences first hand of substance abuse in my own extended family, both with drugs and alcohol. That said, I’m not against pot use for adults who can handle it responsibly because I see it as benign in and of itself when used properly.

354 Mattand  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:52:03am

re: #351 A Mom Anon

Going in the queue now, thanks.

Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if Reagan would have been a more liberal president and governor. It seems like so much terrible precedent was set during that time that just snowballed.

Bill Maher a few months back was talking about the meme of how Reagan would be rejected by today’s GOP.

Maher pointed out that this is the same Reagan who destroyed the air traffic controllers’ union, cut back on mental health care, and started the push to suck up to the religious right.

His point was Reagan was more of a modern conservative than people realize. Can’t say I disagree with some of that.

355 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 5:58:48am

re: #354 Mattand

It was really that PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controllers Organization) destroyed itself by picking a fight. A good book-length treatment of the subject is here.

356 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 6:09:11am

This is the BEST SITUATION ROOM PHOTOSHOP EVER:

357 Flounder  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:11:34am

re: #356 Vicious Babushka

Ok, what does the ice cream signify? Now I want ice cream.

358 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:24:20am

Right up your alley, VB:

slate.com

359 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:24:57am

I am iron man.

360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:25:16am

re: #349 A Mom Anon

I think we should treat prisoners in whatever way cuts recidivism the most. If that involves treating prisoners like they’re on vacation, I’m all for it.

I just have no appetite for punishment at all. Punishment can do nothing to fix the harm that was created. Only in so far as punishment is a deterrent— which is a pretty low correlation for a lot of crimes— is it useful.

361 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:26:12am

re: #359 Gus

I am iron man.

No, that’s my 3 yr g-grandson. : )

362 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:31:59am

re: #361 Justanotherhuman

No, that’s my 3 yr g-grandson. : )

I want apple juice!

363 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:33:26am

re: #360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I think we should treat prisoners in whatever way cuts recidivism the most. If that involves treating prisoner’s like they’re on vacation, I’m all for it.

I just have no appetite for punishment at all. Punishment can do nothing to fix the harm that was created. Only in so far as punishment is a deterrent— which is a pretty low correlation for a lot of crimes— is it useful.

“The United States leads the world in the number of people incarcerated in federal and state correctional facilities. There are currently more than 2 million people in American prisons or jails. Approximately one-quarter of those people held in U.S. prisons or jails have been convicted of a drug offense. The United States incarcerates more people for drug offenses than any other country. With an estimated 6.8 million Americans struggling with drug abuse or dependence, the growth of the prison population continues to be driven largely by incarceration for drug offenses.” - See more at: drugwarfacts.org

“Note: These data only address people in prisons and thus exclude the 700,000+ offenders who may be in local jails because of a marijuana conviction. - See more at: drugwarfacts.org

364 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:34:47am

Agence France-Presse ‏@AFP 7m

#BREAKING: Islamists cancel Cairo rallies for ‘security reasons’

365 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:36:47am

re: #362 Gus

I want apple juice!

in a sippy cup

366 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:37:10am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

I don’t think society is improved in any way when someone smoking pot goes to jail, or when someone dealing it is.

I wonder how deep the ignorance about pot is— about how many people think it’s far different than what it is.

367 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:37:58am

re: #365 sattv4u2

in a sippy cup

I want apple juice!

[Repeat for 90 minutes.]

A true 3 year old. //

368 Flounder  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:39:32am

re: #365 sattv4u2

put some whiskey in that, he will sleep for hours!

369 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:43:31am

re: #368 Flounder

put some whiskey in that, he will sleep for hours!

Gus doesn’t need that. He sleeps for hours at a time anyway!!
/

370 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:44:41am

((used to frequent a local bar,,, tender would ask what I was having,, I would tell him a Screwdriver, but hold the OJ and the ice!!))

371 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:46:38am

re: #366 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Neither do I. A lot of pot smokers are responsible people and a drug conviction (or even a work related drug test) could cost them their livelihood.

372 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 7:53:00am

The problem is there’s a construct created of the average marijuana user being a stoned out of his mind type and there are a lot of people unfortunately who have bought the bs about marijuana.

373 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:04:14am

re: #372 HappyWarrior

The problem is there’s a construct created of the average marijuana user being a stoned out of his mind type and there are a lot of people unfortunately who have bought the bs about marijuana.

Speaking of constructs:

Russia: Anti-Gay Row ‘Invented’ By Western Media

news.sky.com

Westerners didn’t pass those discriminatory laws in Russia…

374 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:05:49am

Traffic snarling in Cairo as police, army close bridge, roads leading to potential protest points; military blocks road at Supreme Constitutional Court with barbed wire - @jrug, @azortiz

375 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:07:17am

At work this lovely gray morning bringing the server room back up.

Got an iPhone photo of a peregrine falcon swooping around. It’s just a black dot in the photo though. :p

376 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:07:45am

re: #373 Justanotherhuman

Speaking of constructs:

Russia: Anti-Gay Row ‘Invented’ By Western Media

news.sky.com

Westerners didn’t pass those discriminatory laws in Russia…

Yeah the west “invented” the rightist thugs going around Moscow beating LGBT people and LGBT advocates. Sheesh.

377 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:08:21am

We sponsored a state-wide Darts tournament Friday and Sat.at the lodge. We had hundreds of players visiting..Man our little gang got trashed last night..Then we went to breakfast this morning..I’m laying in bed now chock full of coffee wanting to sleep..
I hope to fall asleep in an hour or so..Then my housekeeper will be here and wake me up. So, I’ll be grumpy soon. How are you guys doing?

378 sattv4u2  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:11:34am

re: #375 Feline Fearless Leader

At work this lovely gray morning bringing the server room back up.

Got an iPhone photo of a peregrine falcon swooping around. It’s just a black dot in the photo though. :p

There’s a peregrine falcon in your server room???

379 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:12:47am
380 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:13:31am

re: #378 sattv4u2

There’s a peregrine falcon in your server room???

If there was I’d have a much better photo of it! :D

No, it was swooping between this building and the next one over about 30 floors up. Probably one of the pair that nest over in City Hall.

I hear they’re registered Democrats as well…
;)

381 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:17:23am

re: #363 Justanotherhuman

“The United States leads the world in the number of people incarcerated in federal and state correctional facilities. There are currently more than 2 million people in American prisons or jails. Approximately one-quarter of those people held in U.S. prisons or jails have been convicted of a drug offense. The United States incarcerates more people for drug offenses than any other country. With an estimated 6.8 million Americans struggling with drug abuse or dependence, the growth of the prison population continues to be driven largely by incarceration for drug offenses.” - See more at: drugwarfacts.org

“Note: These data only address people in prisons and thus exclude the 700,000+ offenders who may be in local jails because of a marijuana conviction. - See more at: drugwarfacts.org

And a big part of the fix is to treat drugs, all drugs including alcohol, as a public health issue. For rich and poor alike. That, or go back to prohibition and lock us all up.

382 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:22:12am

re: #381 Decatur Deb

And a big part of the fix is to treat drugs, all drugs including alcohol, as a public health issue. For rich and poor alike. That, or go back to prohibition and lock us all up.

Aren’t we all already inside The Asylum anyways?
;)

383 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:24:25am

re: #382 Feline Fearless Leader

Aren’t we all already inside The Asylum anyways?
;)

Nah. We are behaving as expected for a species at our level of development. (Disraeli and others said we are half ape, half angel. They might have been optimists.)

384 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:25:35am

Slow morning, so a little Frank. I used to play this for my teenaged boys who lived in Chuck Taylors. : ) I think that album got pilfered. It just disappeared one day.

Youtube Video

385 John Vreeland  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:25:44am

Anyone recognize the address of the NYC photo? I’m afraid that all the buildings are gone now, but there are some clues: Broadway was paved north of Columbus circle during the 19th century, and we see paving going on in the foreground. It appears we are looking north onto unpaved territory as Broadway is blocked for construction. The one cross street we see is at a right angle, which probably indicates something north of 78th street. The sparsity of telegraph lines suggests the same; by 1855 Broadway south of Wall street was a spider web of telegraph lines.

That might be a street address painted across the street (380), but it probably dates back to when this was not Broadway but “The Boulevard.” In fact, the tent-like structure at lower right must be the central mall, which still partly exists as an island between north- and south-bound lanes.

386 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:28:00am

re: #385 John Vreeland

Anyone recognize the address of the NYC photo? I’m afraid that all the buildings are gone now, but there are some clues: Broadway was paved north of Columbus circle during the 19th century, and we see paving going on in the foreground. It appears we are looking north onto unpaved territory as Broadway is blocked for construction. The one cross street we see is at a right angle, which probably indicates something north of 78th street. The sparsity of telegraph lines suggests the same; by 1855 Broadway south of Wall street was a spider web of telegraph lines.

That might be a street address painted across the street (380), but it probably dates back to when this was not Broadway but “The Boulevard.” In fact, the tent-like structure at lower right must be the central mall, which still partly exists as an island between north and south lanes.

The building most likely to survive is the Greek Revival bank-like two-story. It wasn’t on UWS Broadway in the 60s.

387 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:29:17am

re: #384 Justanotherhuman

Slow morning, so a little Frank. I used to play this for my teenaged boys who lived in Chuck Taylors. : ) I think that album got pilfered. It just disappeared one day.

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Frank? Expected Franck, then saw it wasn’t Freetoken.

388 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:31:44am

re: #387 Decatur Deb

Frank? Expected Franck, then saw it wasn’t Freetoken.

Franck en Steen?

389 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:39:22am

re: #380 Feline Fearless Leader

If there was I’d have a much better photo of it! :D

No, it was swooping between this building and the next one over about 30 floors up. Probably one of the pair that nest over in City Hall.

I hear they’re registered Democrats as well…
;)

There’s another pair elsewhere that went the other way, I hear tell. When their area proved a good fracking candidate, they went to work for Koch Energy as aerial surveyors.

///

390 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:44:04am
391 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:44:11am

re: #388 Feline Fearless Leader

Franck en Steen?

Franck an’ stein.

encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com

(Yeah 1730, you get the idea.)

392 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:44:14am
393 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:47:59am

re: #392 Gus

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Both were heard to mumble, “Where’s my sammich?”

394 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:51:55am
However, as the social power evidenced in the bailout of Wall Street demonstrated, neo-liberal dogma is never forced on those with the power to resist it. Several decades of neo-liberal policies were implemented by the IMF (International Monetary Fund) on the citizens of nations too politically powerless to resist them. Closing corrupt, extractive banks was one of the absolute musts of IMF (neo-liberal) policy because they misallocate resources across entire economies if left intact. The point here is that neo-liberalism is purported by its proponents to create / produce an economic infrastructure conducive to ‘free markets’ but existing asymmetry in political-economic power assures it is only used to restructure the economic relations of those too powerless to resist it. The increasing crises of capitalism, and that of 2008 in particular, should have put an end to neo-liberalism—in the depths of the crisis even the IMF offered a mea culpa apologizing for decades of inflicting its policies on ‘other countries’ that ‘the West’ wouldn’t inflict on itself. The difference in treatment—in terms of both the hypocrisy of differentiated treatment and the theoretical incoherence of acting against principles in the face of the power to resist them, illustrated neo-liberalism to be a pernicious form of neo-imperialism hiding behind bogus economic theories. And in fact, the major points of disagreement amongst Western economists have been over responses to the crisis, not its causes. (To his credit Paul Krugman has taken the ‘the GSEs caused the crisis’ argument to task quite effectively several times). The tendency of we in ‘the West’ has been to draw a circle around the visible political-economic relations—those close at hand, and to exclude from our realm of concern the broader impact of Western policies. However, neo-liberalism as both ideology and imposed political economy is now fact in the West. With quiet acceptance any pretense of ‘democracy’ has been replaced with the admonition that if we behave ourselves we can remain on the ‘winning’ side of political economic restructuring according to neo-liberal dogma. Left unsaid is that rapidly declining circumstance, in terms of both the increasing economic marginalization of most citizens and the imposition of the technologies of totalitarianism, is wholly the product of four decades of near-silent neo-liberal coup. What Mr. Obama’s insistence on continuing to push neo-liberal policies indicates is that no economic debacle will cause neo-liberalism to be re-thought by its proponents. What historical trajectory suggests is that the imposed political economies and failed policies of neo-liberalism will only result in their greater imposition until the world says ‘no more.’
395 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:51:56am

re: #390 Gus

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All about the dudes and the bros to Assange. The glorious work of the whistle-blower is to be done a man, and the lady’s role is to cook, clean, and then blow the whistle-blowers whistle.

396 John Vreeland  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:53:42am

re: #386 Decatur Deb

Agreed. The Greek Revival (a bank?) no longer exists, and the other buildings are likely too short. It might be possible to ID the location using the few business names and comparing them to city records for the era, but otherwise it is likely that everything there has been redeveloped. Americans have no respect for history :). Of course, back then the buildings were not old, merely obsolete. Property values rose so sharply in the War Between the States that anything less then five stories would have been a waste of real estate.

Points of note: a carriage repository is in the lower left, which I think was a kind of showroom for new cars. You could usually also get bridles and such there. My ancestors were in the business of making such things at this time. Note how the wheels of the car are lifted so it does not roll out onto the street. Another one is parked that way a few doors down, as if they had a partial garage.

I believe I was wrong before about the direction, as the sidewalk is clearly paved in the distance, but not in the foreground, and I do not see a seam in the distance so it is likely we are looking south at paved (though dirty) road. That would put the “bank” on the east side of the street.

397 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:56:50am

re: #394 Gus

From:

398 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 8:58:01am

re: #396 John Vreeland

Some time ago I found a site doing deep “property archaeology” of NYC. Their quest was to find the location of the diner in Hopper’s Nighthawks. They had developed great resources and techniques. This might be the entry to them:

nymag.com

399 BongCrodny  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:00:44am

re: #377 A Man for all Seasons

We sponsored a state-wide Darts tournament Friday and Sat.at the lodge. We had hundreds of players visiting..Man our little gang got trashed last night..Then we went to breakfast this morning..I’m laying in bed now chock full of coffee wanting to sleep..
I hope to fall asleep in an hour or so..Then my housekeeper will be here and wake me up. So, I’ll be grumpy soon. How are you guys doing?

Why is your bed full of coffee?

401 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:01:27am

re: #399 BongCrodny

Why is your bed full of coffee?

My server room peregrine falcon dropped a cup there. It was an accident though.
:)

402 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:02:25am

No Mas!
Barack Obama and the Neo-Liberal Coup
by ROB URIE

“No mas!” Oh look. He used Spanish words. Just like a revolutionary figure from teh Latin America.

403 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:02:45am

re: #390 Gus

Wow. This is what Assange said:

The libertarian aspect of the Republican party is presently the only useful political voice really in the U.S. Congress.

No respect for even someone like Elizabeth Warren.

What a dudebro.

404 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:03:36am

re: #396 John Vreeland

This source might be deeper:

vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com

405 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:04:44am

re: #402 Gus

No Mas!
Barack Obama and the Neo-Liberal Coup
by ROB URIE

“No mas!” Oh look. He used Spanish words. Just like a revolutionary figure from teh Latin America.

Or perhaps a Peronist Progressive, eh Gus? ;)

406 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:05:27am

re: #403 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Wow. This is what Assange said:

No respect for even someone like Elizabeth Warren.

What a dudebro.

Assange is dudebro zero.


I made that graphic.

407 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:07:17am

No one could’ve predicted that Assange was an asshat.
Also, not like anyone tried to warn them of said asshattery.
Nope.
RON PAUL

408 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:07:48am
409 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:09:49am

re: #407 Pavlovian Hive Mind

No one could’ve predicted that Assange was an asshat.
Also, not like anyone tried to warn them of said asshattery.
Nope.
RON PAUL

The wondrous thing is that it makes no difference to them. Would love to be there if Greenwald awakes bolt upright in bed and suddenly sees what he’s been sleeping with.

410 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:11:11am

Assenge is a self-serving jackass. Simple as that.

411 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:13:07am

re: #405 Dark_Falcon

Or perhaps a Peronist Progressive, eh Gus? ;)

INORITE. I read shit like that and my eyes roll to the back of my head. So tired of revolutionary wannabes. The system might suck but our job is to fix it along the way and not break it down and replace with some Bolivarian like nightmare.

412 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:15:37am

re: #411 Gus

INORITE. I read shit like that and my eyes roll to the back of my head. So tired of revolutionary wannabes. The system might suck but our job is to fix it along the way and not break it down and replace with some Bolivarian like nightmare.

If they let us.

413 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:15:38am

re: #411 Gus

Please excuse me for asking, what is “INORITE” ?

414 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:17:08am

re: #409 Decatur Deb

The wondrous thing is that it makes no difference to them. Would love to be there if Greenwald awakes bolt upright in bed and suddenly sees what he’s been sleeping with.

Why would he be offended? Texas-style abortion restrictions work out perfectly for him: They ensure that when the time comes for the Heir to Assange to be brought into the world, the woman selected for the “honor” will have little choice but to carry the Heir to term. And if she does leave and is still able to seek abortion she will be appropriately slut-shamed for having refused him. Perfect if you have an all-consuming ego and see women as being there for your own gratification.

415 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:17:23am

re: #413 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking, what is “INORITE” ?

“I know, right.”

416 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:17:45am

re: #412 Decatur Deb

If they let us.

Don’t boo! Vote!

417 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:18:16am

re: #415 Gus

Okay. Thanks. Gee this internet shorthand can be confusing. :)

418 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:18:50am

re: #416 Gus

Don’t boo! Vote!

Fewer of us are qualified to vote today than 6 months ago.

419 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:20:45am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

Thinking of Greenwald, on the assumption there is some shred of liberal soul still there.

420 austin_blue  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:23:44am

It’s the Day of Rage for Tea Party town hall meetings nationwide.

Making popcorn….

421 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:24:17am

I’m amused by the reaction of Julian’s Ron/Rand Paul and Drudge praise.

422 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:24:33am

Frankly I find it very condescending for someone like Greenwald who lives in Brazil and thus doesn’t have to live with the realities of policies created by a party to go on and act like the two parties are no different. He’s free of course to live where-ever the hell he wants but for those of us who are and would be adversely effected by GOP policies, his act is stale and annoying.

423 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:30:06am

re: #420 austin_blue

It’s the Day of Rage for Tea Party town hall meetings nationwide.

Making popcorn….

I hate “Day of Rage” ideas, given how nastily the first one played out in Chicago, in part organized the Weather Underground and William Ayers.

And that is why I’ve hated Ayers since 2001, years before I knew who Barack Obama even was.

424 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:30:24am

re: #422 HappyWarrior

Frankly I find it very condescending for someone like Greenwald who lives in Brazil and thus doesn’t have to live with the realities of policies created by a party to go on and act like the two parties are no different. He’s free of course to live where-ever the hell he wants but for those of us who are and would be adversely effected by GOP policies, his act is stale and annoying.

He’s just going to continue putting on his Skeletor costume and yelling “By the power of Wikileaks - I denounce you!” while cackling manically and tweeting about the abuse of his poor deluded minions.

425 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:31:12am

re: #414 Dark_Falcon

He winds up saying that some of these positions may serve to undermine the ‘greater principle’— he’s not actually endorsing the particular anti-abortion stand, he’s giving them props for having principles even if they’re badly applied.

Apparently, Assange thinks that people who compromise have no principles, or something. I don’t know, it’s hard to get logic where you see Ron Paul as a principled man but President Obama as unprincipled, unless you just mean ‘less likely to compromise’.

426 John Vreeland  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:32:37am

I was wrong about the location of the photo. The number of telegraph lines is appropriate for downtown ca. 1850, which means a rectilinear part of old Broadway south of Columbus Circle. Which means that the tents at the right side are not part of the central mall, but something else.
One of the problems here is that even if any of these buildings survive it is likely they have had their fronts completely changed as that old masonry becomes dangerous after a while and some owners would simply remove it. I am trying to confirm Leonard St. as the cross-street now.

427 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:33:22am

re: #424 Feline Fearless Leader

He’s just going to continue putting on his Skeletor costume and yelling “By the power of Wikileaks - I denounce you!” while cackling manically and tweeting about the abuse of his poor deluded minions.

Yeah well fuck Wikileaks and him. Not all of us can live abroad and be perfect like Glennie.

428 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:34:55am

re: #420 austin_blue

It’s a bad idea. Dark is right about the history and I’d just add rage rarely ever helped anyone. It’s a root of violence.

On a lighter note jumped in to strongly recommend a Page this morning from Skip Intro.

Fans of digital filters like Instagram has can look at these shots as a kind of origin story.

429 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:35:05am

re: #426 John Vreeland

Curious. Are you using the “birthday cake” as an avatar due to residence or background location, or just like it?

430 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:35:46am
431 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:36:04am

re: #427 HappyWarrior

Yeah well fuck Wikileaks and him. Not all of us can live abroad and be perfect like Glennie.

THUNDERCATS HO!!!!!!!!!

432 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:36:23am

re: #413 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse me for asking, what is “INORITE” ?

Heh. First time I saw “THIS” I totally thought it was a partial post.

433 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:38:27am

re: #432 Political Atheist

Heh. First time I saw “THIS” I totally thought it was a partial post.

memegenerator.net

434 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:38:37am

Sisi - Egypt

435 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:38:54am

re: #432 Political Atheist

Heh. First time I saw “THIS” I totally thought it was a partial post.

INORITE

436 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:40:04am

re: #434 Gus

Sisi - Egypt

Those evil Muslims! Advocating that religion be kept out of politics!!11!!!
////

437 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:40:55am

re: #423 Dark_Falcon

I hate “Day of Rage” ideas, given how nastily the first one played out in Chicago, in part organized the Weather Underground and William Ayers.

And that is why I’ve hated Ayers since 2001, years before I knew who Barack Obama even was.

“Days of Snit” just didn’t cut it.

438 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:41:44am

re: #436 Feline Fearless Leader

Those evil Muslims! Advocating that religion be kept out of politics!!11!!!
////

Religion Sunni Islam

en.wikipedia.org

439 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:42:42am

re: #437 Decatur Deb

“Days of Snit” just didn’t cut it.

Snit’s Revenge!

440 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:43:07am

Wait. Maybe that wasn’t Sisi but Iyad El-Baghdadi instead.

441 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:44:09am

Bill O’Rly.
2 internet memes in an 8 second clip.

Image: OpoQQ.jpg

Image: 4419564+_1ffcf902264a4d243e39ba7554e600dd.jpg

An epic man.

442 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:44:54am

In any event…

Iyad El-Baghdadi
@iyad_elbaghdadi

I startup startups, tweet revolutions, and make fun of tyrants. Islamic libertarian. #ArabTyrantManual #ArabSpringManifesto

443 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:45:26am
444 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:48:13am

I just got back from church a few minutes ago and our Preacher spoke for a few minutes about the Missionary efforts we are sponsoring. He talked about the importance of work in South America and Africa that’s going on.

As I’m listening to that, I find myself frustrated with the continual focus on missionary work in Africa. Look, don’t get me wrong I know church sponsored groups are doing some great (and unfortunately some not so great) things in Africa but there are tremendous needs right here at home in America.

The bible never states missionary work MUST be Africa only and yet for some reason that’s how most churches seem to view it.

So your neighbor might be on the verge of being evicted because he can’t make rent but you just feel so good about yourself because you tossed $20 in to the offering at Church so young african kids (might) get clean water.

To me it’s a pretty clear “forest for the trees” scenario.

445 John Vreeland  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 9:48:39am

In this Google maps image, the building with the “Furniture Outlet” store front appears to be the same one as the fourth building back from the corner, just past the carriage repository, albeit sans fancy masonry.
I know it seems weak but the fact that is has no fancy scrollwork at all strongly suggests that it was all simply removed at some point for safety reasons, as no one would have put up such an unadorned building. The position and window shape seem to match. Other than that I see no other hits.

446 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:01:35am

re: #444 Eclectic Cyborg

I just got back from church a few minutes ago and our Preacher spoke for a few minutes about the Missionary efforts we are sponsoring. He talked about the importance of work in South America and Africa that’s going on.

As I’m listening to that, I find myself frustrated with the continual focus on missionary work in Africa. Look, don’t get me wrong I know church sponsored groups are doing some great (and unfortunately some not so great) things in Africa but there are tremendous needs right here at home in America.

The bible never states missionary work MUST be Africa only and yet for some reason that’s how most churches seem to view it.

So your neighbor might be on the verge of being evicted because he can’t make rent but you just feel so good about yourself because you tossed $20 in to the offering at Church so young african kids (might) get clean water.

To me it’s a pretty clear “forest for the trees” scenario.

It’s ‘six of one’ for me. We support Heifer International and the Carter initiatives abroad, just because the raw amount of human misery relieved per dollar is greater in the undeveloped world. We do Habitat and a free clinic here, because we can do hands-on with hammer and nursing skills.

On first read, thought your preacher was elaborating the Missionary Position.

447 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:03:00am
448 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:03:53am
449 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:04:21am

A Model of American Opacity
How Obama’s drone war echoes Egypt’s military crackdown.
BY ROSA BROOKS

I can no longer keep track of all the ways the United States has lost the moral high ground when it comes to Egypt.

There was our initial namby-pamby response to the popular uprising against Hosni Mubarak in early 2011: We made vague noises about the virtues of democracy, but we dithered over calling for Mubarak to step down, because we’re Dictators R Us — Mubarak might have been a bastard, but he was our bastard. After Mubarak’s ouster, we continued to sit on our hands as Egypt’s interim military government grew ever more repressive in the run-up to elections. When the Muslim Brotherhood’s Mohamed Morsy won the presidency in the summer of 2012 and began rapidly consolidating power, we remained dithery, coupling the occasional pious call for increased political freedom with expressions of faint support for the entirely unlovable Morsy and faint distaste for the burgeoning secular protest movement.

Then, when Morsy was ousted in a military coup, we took a leaf from Orwell and insisted there hadn’t been a coup, just “an incredibly complex and difficult situation” in which there was “a decision made by the Egyptian armed forces to remove President Morsy from power and to suspend the constitution,” which is, of course, nothing at all like a coup.

This week, our response to the news that more than 600 Islamist protesters were killed by Egyptian security forces was to issue a stiff verbal rebuke and cancel a planned joint military exercise with the Egyptians. Yeah, that’ll show ‘em. Since we still can’t bring ourselves to cut the annual $1.3 billion in military aid we give Egypt, Egypt’s armed forces are presumably laughing their way to the bank.

All that’s ample reason for shame. But we’ve also lost the moral high ground for another, less obvious reason: Given the disgraceful lack of transparency surrounding U.S. drone strikes, we no longer have any principled ground on which to stand as we condemn the killings in Egypt.

That’s because the Egyptian government’s rationale for its recent killings is unpleasantly similar to our own government’s rationale for drone strikes in Yemen, Pakistan, and elsewhere.

450 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:05:35am

re: #445 John Vreeland

In this Google maps image, the building with the “Furniture Outlet” store front appears to be the same one as the fourth building back from the corner, just past the carriage repository, albeit sans fancy masonry.
I know it seems weak but the fact that is has no fancy scrollwork at all strongly suggests that it was all simply removed at some point for safety reasons, as no one would have put up such an unadorned building. The position and window shape seem to match. Other than that I see no other hits.

This help?

ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com

451 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:06:24am
452 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:07:09am

re: #448 Charles Johnson

WTF.
We sure as hell can fuck up nature. Like, say, a nuclear war.
Morans.

453 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:07:35am

There’s no polite way to say it - climate change deniers are simply fucking morons.

454 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:07:41am

re: #318 William Barnett-Lewis

I am very tired of the Hillary push. She did a very good job as Secretary of State. Now it’s time to let go. I only wish Gabrielle Giffords would be up to the strain by 2016…

Gabrielle Gifford, Hmm. I’d like to see that but the perception in the N.E. is she would be way too conservative. Just being from the much maligned State of Arizona kills it I fear. The Senate may be the best she can hope for, or perhaps Governor of Az.

455 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:07:57am

Or hey, Lake Nyos.

456 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:10:15am

re: #449 Gus

A Model of American Opacity
How Obama’s drone war echoes Egypt’s military crackdown.
BY ROSA BROOKS

Continues… ends with…

… To be clear, I’m not expecting black helicopters to swoop down on the next Code Pink protest in Washington; I do, in fact, have a great deal of faith in our government’s commitment to using only law enforcement methods inside our borders. I’ll go further than that: Although I regard most U.S. drone strikes as strategically short-sighted and marred by an appalling disregard for rule-of-law principles, I accept the administration’s assurance that strikes are carried out only after an exacting review process.

But although I believe the U.S. government has a far greater commitment to safeguarding innocent lives and exercising self-restraint than the Egyptian authorities, the utter lack of transparency surrounding U.S. drone strikes ensures that no one can prove it.

And that’s not good enough. How can our condemnations of the bloody abuses in Egypt have any credibility when we’ve given the world no basis for believing we’re less savage ourselves?

Drones!

Also.

Rosa Brooks is a law professor at Georgetown University and a Schwartz senior fellow at the New America Foundation. She served as a counselor to the U.S. defense undersecretary for policy from 2009 to 2011 and previously served as a senior advisor at the U.S. State Department. Her weekly column runs every Wednesday and is accompanied by a blog, By Other Means.

Can you believe that?

457 John Vreeland  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:10:28am

The address painted in the NYC photo is “360”, not 380. The current lots post that same address in their front window. This clinches the shot as showing the east side of Broadway between Leonard and Franklin. I do not see another surviving building other than the one I mentioned earlier at 358 Broadway.

458 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:10:51am

re: #453 Charles Johnson

There’s no polite way to say it - climate change deniers are simply fucking morons.

A truly painful truth. I’m not the only person here with a parent or two that have fallen for Fox whole hog.

459 Charles Johnson  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:11:33am

I think Twitchy.com must have published one of my tweets or something, because I have quite a few of these idiotic replies this morning.

460 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:11:49am

re: #457 John Vreeland

The address painted in the NYC photo is “360”, not 380. The current lots post that same address in their front window. This clinches the shot as showing the east side of Broadway between Leonard and Franklin. I do not see another surviving building other than the one I mentioned earlier at 358 Broadway.

It just might be, according to New York: An Illustrated History, by Ric Burns and James Sanders. Taken at Broadway between Franklin and Leonard Streets, it’s believed to date to May 1850.

461 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:11:58am

re: #453 Charles Johnson

There’s no polite way to say it - climate change deniers are simply fucking morons.

And also missing the point that while what we do is probably not going to mess things up in terms of geological time, it certainly can mess up how our billions currently interact with it. And while our species might weather the storm, our currently civilization almost certainly will not, or at a very minimum not get past it without massive upheaval and casualties.

But they’ll play both sides of the issue rhetorically in the mean time.

462 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:14:10am

re: #448 Charles Johnson

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This cracked me up, “if all the CO2 goes away we lose all our trees. Just sayin. War on co2 is a war on trees.”

463 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:17:08am

re: #462 Gus

This cracked me up, “if all the CO2 goes away we lose all our trees. Just sayin. War on co2 is a war on trees.”

Try to explain the difference between a cool drink and a drowning in 140 characters. You lose a brain cell for every tweet you type or read.

464 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:18:01am

re: #463 Decatur Deb

Try to explain the difference between a cool drink and a drowning in 140 characters. You lose a brain cell for every tweet you type or read.

WAR ON CO2 IS A WAR ON TREES! ZOOOOOOOOOMG.

465 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:18:09am

Jesus, ‘if all CO2 goes away…’

Fuck it.

466 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:18:10am

re: #463 Decatur Deb

Try to explain the difference between a cool drink and a drowning in 140 characters. You lose a brain cell for every tweet you type or read.

How about “Water down wrong pipe. You die.”
:)

467 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:19:20am

We’d be freezing right quick ‘if all the CO2 goes away’…
Who the fuck are these morons???

468 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:19:25am

re: #464 Gus

WAR ON CO2 IS A WAR ON TREES! ZOOOOOOOOOMG.

All beer will be flat from now on. CO2 has been outlawed by the Obama administration.
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469 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:21:34am

re: #467 Pavlovian Hive Mind

We’d be freezing right quick ‘if all the CO2 goes away’…
Who the fuck are these morons???

The people who were doing armpit farts while the rest of us were learning basic science.

470 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:22:25am

It does amaze me how stupid people are constantly. There’s a lot of stupidity out there combined with cognitive dissonance.

471 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:23:37am

re: #470 HappyWarrior

It does amaze me how stupid people are constantly. There’s a lot of stupidity out there combined with cognitive dissonance.

And a lot of well-funded astroturf lying.

472 BongCrodny  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:25:25am

re: #469 HappyWarrior

The people who were doing armpit farts while the rest of us were learning basic science.

You say that like armpit farts isn’t basic science.

473 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:26:52am

re: #472 BongCrodny

You say that like armpit farts isn’t basic science.

Ha touche.

474 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:27:36am

re: #459 Charles Johnson

I think Twitchy.com must have published one of my tweets or something, because I have quite a few of these idiotic replies this morning.

This Tweet and that hashtag.

475 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:30:17am

re: #467 Pavlovian Hive Mind

We’d be freezing right quick ‘if all the CO2 goes away’…
Who the fuck are these morons???

CO2 is the New O2! -ExxonMobileChevronValero76

476 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:39:01am

Oh Charles I have a twitter counter question. I retweeted SkipIntros Page earlier, checked my twitter to be sure it went, it did. But that Page shows 0 tweets. Lil glitch or do I need to change a setting somewhere?

littlegreenfootballs.com

477 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:43:29am

re: #312 HappyWarrior

Fortunately Democrats don’t do the next batter up thing like Republicans do. It’s why we got Obama instead of Hillary in 2008 and that’s a decision I am glad that Democratic voters made. But yeah, I’m with you. There’s a lot of good young Democrats out there who would make as good presidents as Hillary but wouldn’t have the baggage. I don’t dislike her but I really don’t want to relive the 90’s in the ad wars.

Don’t you think that Republicans will create “baggage” for whichever Democrat is nominated in 2016? President Obama really didn’t have any baggage but you wouldn’t know that from the ugly 2008 Republican campaign against him, would you? I’ll vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination and would love to see Hilary Clinton as the first woman President-elect.

478 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:45:42am

re: #477 Patricia Kayden

Don’t you think that Republicans will create “baggage” for whichever Democrat is nominated in 2016? President Obama really didn’t have any baggage but you wouldn’t know that from the ugly 2008 Republican campaign against him, would you? I’ll vote for whichever Democrat wins the nomination and would love to see Hilary Clinton as the first woman President-elect.

Of course, I do. I have no problem with Hillary. It’s just my personal preference that the Dems go outside with their pick. If it’s Hillary, I’ll be okay with it. She’s obviously a capable enough leader and would be better than any of the Republicans running.

479 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:47:07am

re: #478 HappyWarrior

Of course, I do. I have no problem with Hillary. It’s just my personal preference that the Dems go outside with their pick. If it’s Hillary, I’ll be okay with it. She’s obviously a capable enough leader and would be better than any of the Republicans running.

Since the calendar is just wrong for Elizabeth Warren.

480 Gus  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:47:42am
481 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:49:25am

re: #479 Decatur Deb

Since the calendar is just wrong for Elizabeth Warren.

I think she’d be a better pick. Better for the base and even though she’s more to Hillary’s left, I think would also attract more Indy voters.

482 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:50:17am

re: #480 Gus

And to top it off I will not look at the camera too.

483 Patricia Kayden  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:51:32am

re: #32 Charles Johnson

That is too cute. Would love to see what that cat did to that dog after the photo shoot.

484 Political Atheist  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:52:08am

re: #482 PhillyPretzel

And to top it off I will not look at the camera too.

Next up
I will not beard for you.

485 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:53:41am

re: #449 Gus

The US “lost the moral high ground” in Egypt when Anwar Sadat was assassinated. With Mubarak we were always propping up a tin-pot dictator. We did so to keep the peace between Egypt and Israel and to cause Egypt to cut ties with the Soviet Union. It was politics of necessity.

486 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:53:59am

re: #479 Decatur Deb

Since the calendar is just wrong for Elizabeth Warren.

America needs her in the senate keeping the Bankster’s scared ;)

487 Lidane  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:55:22am

Did you know that dragons are real? They lived in Biblical times:

488 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:55:35am

re: #486 William Barnett-Lewis

America needs her in the senate keeping the Bankster’s scared ;)

Yep can never have too many watchful eyes in the Senate.

489 HappyWarrior  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 10:56:18am

re: #487 Lidane

Did you know that dragons are real? They lived in Biblical times:

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From the people who brought you demons are behind gay marriage.

490 Decatur Deb  Sun, Aug 18, 2013 11:25:27am

Wonkette concludes that Jim Hoft is not the stupidest man on the Intertubes. Their participant-observer field research indicates he’s just a lying dick:

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