Bradley Manning Sentenced to 35 Years, Eligible for Parole in 8

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Once again, we see a naïve, deluded young person paying the price for the insane nihilistic libertarianism promoted by Julian Assange and Glenn Greenwald: Judge Sentences Bradley Manning to 35 Years.

A military judge on Wednesday morning sentenced Army Pfc. Bradley Manning to 35 years in prison for leaking hundreds of thousands of classified documents to the anti-secrecy group WikiLeaks.

Manning, 25, was convicted last month of multiple charges, including violations of the Espionage Act for copying and disseminating the documents while serving as an intelligence analyst at a forward operating base in Iraq. He faced up to 90 years in prison.

Manning is required to serve one-third of the sentence, minus three and half years of time served, before he is eligible for parole. That will be in eight years when he is 33.

Since he could have been sentenced to 60 years, he actually got off remarkably easy considering the gravity of his crimes. But Glenn Greenwald, of course, is raging. His most ridiculous tweet so far:

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223 comments
1 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:02:20am

please let me know when Bradley Manning also became a journalist and how many journalists were incarcerated in this entire affair?

also too, when the fuck did the idea that releasing classified materiel should be considered transparency, like EVER.

governments, business, individuals ALL keep secrets, a government classifies them in order to determine the importance of that information and who should have the trust to handle them.

2 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:04:57am

35 - 3.5 = 31.5
31.5/3 = 10.5

3 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:05:00am

Excuse me while I facepalm…

4 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:05:54am


LOL

5 Minor_L  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:07:58am

Pretty nice for ol’ Glenn that he gets to pick and choose which laws are enforced.

6 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:08:12am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

well geez Charles, the GOP have always been good faith players….just look at all of the latitude that Turtle gave him before launching his scorched earth political assault on his yet, unproposed agenda, that detente lasted what, 20, 30 minutes?

7 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:08:51am

Or…
35/3 = 11.67 years.
11.67 - 3.5 = 8.17 year.

8 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:10:15am

re: #3 Charles Johnson

TPGOP is somewhere on my list of persecuted minorities.

9 blueraven  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:11:57am

re: #7 Gus

Or…
35/3 = 11.67 years.
11.67 - 3.5 = 8.17 year.

This is how I interpreted it, but not sure what formula they use.

10 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:13:02am
11 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:13:51am

This just in, the NRA has a far more extensive and expansive database of gun owners than anything the government ever contemplated. It spends countless amounts of time and money maintaining and upgrading the database of owners to not only solicit more donations.

How did the NRA, a private entity that has no real oversight and can do pretty much anything it wants with the data, get its hands on this information?

A whole lot was publicly available. Some of it was achieved by registering owners in gun safety programs, or in publications proffered by the group.

But several observers said the NRA’s methods reflect a sophistication and ingenuity that is largely unrivaled outside of major national presidential campaigns. While the organization took great umbrage in December when a newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners in two New York counties, the group for years as been gathering similar information via the same public records as a matter of course.
In Virginia, for instance, a North Carolina-based firm called Preferred Communications filed an inquiry with the Virginia State Police in July 2009 asking “on behalf of the National Rifle Association” as to whether the names of concealed carry permit holders could be purchased. The email was obtained by BuzzFeed by Freedom of Information Act request.
“Can you please let me know if you offer 2008 and/or 2009 names?” wrote the representative, Michele Wood, who hung up on BuzzFeed when asked for comment. “Can you please let me know the address to send the check to and also whom to make it payable to?”
Iowa too provides another example. In December 2011, NRA lobbyist Christopher Rager, wrote to Iowa Department of Public Safety legislative liaison Ross Loder from an official NRA email address.
“If the NRA wanted to collect data from DPS’ permit holder files, is there a specific process or any rules for us to acquire the records?” Rager wrote in an email also obtained via FOIA. “Can we pay to have the files copied or sent to us?”
Similarly, officials in Arkansas and Oregon also told BuzzFeed they had requests for such lists, and Gawker reported in February of NRA-related registry requests in Louisiana and Tennessee.
“We’ve been doing this since the old days,” Feldman said. “You could obtain from most states the listings of hunter licenses from the Department of Wildlife and Conservations. It was sort of amazing what we knew about people from that. There were early doe permit holders, black powder holders, so many different seasons. It was a lot of data.”

Complementing this practice is the mining of data on the thousands who take gun safety classes from NRA-certified instructors. Arulanandam said there are 97,000 of them, a figure that impressed Quinn as a larger “army of organizers” than Obama had.

In some states, those ranks are propelled by laws that specify that taking classes from NRA-certified instructors in order to obtain permits or licenses. In 2011, for instance, the Iowa Legislature added such a provision.

Outrage over newspapers publishing owner addresses/locations got a lot of attention. The response was to limit what information could be provided from gun records on hand. So, efforts to limit what information on gun sales can be made available to media outlets would also limit the NRA’s ability to get and maintain its own databases.

But the thing is that people don’t care what the NRA does with this data because it’s not the government, which they think is the real enemy here.

Same thing with all the corporations that create massive databases of information about buying habits, browsing habits, and anything else imaginable - much more invasive and pervasive than anything the NSA considers worthwhile for their efforts.

But the hysteria is dialed up to 11TY because it’s the NSA. And the government’s efforts to protect its national security efforts from prying eyes.

12 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:16:30am

Russian Press Freedom 101:

Gay Reporter Thrown Off Kremlin Channel For Blasting Anti-Gay Law

Journalist Jamie Kirchick tells Russia Today: “I’m not really interested in talking about Bradley Manning. I’m interested in talking about the horrific environment of homophobia in Russia right now.”

Nothing but crickets from Greenwald et al. That’s a real journalist, attempting to highlight a real and pervasive threat to civil and human rights, and it’s ignored because all must bow to the altar of Greenwald’s dudelibertarianism.

13 b.d.  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:18:50am

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

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LOL

Oh joy, Code Pink!

I would imagine that they’ll have about 1 protester for each of the 35 years he is sentenced for, if it’s not raining.

14 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:18:56am

re: #12 lawhawk

GG is a log cabin republican, as long as he’s got his rights covered, the rest of ya have to look out for yourselves. He’s a libertarian activist who just happens to be gay.

15 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:19:41am

Manning deserves to be punished. He broke the law and there is no denying that simple fact. IMO though, I hope President Obama pardons Manning January 19th, 2017. 35 years seems a bit excessive for essentially being puppet for that rapist.

16 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:21:11am

re: #13 b.d.

Oh joy, Code Pink!

I would imagine that they’ll have about 1 protester for each of the 35 years he is sentenced for, if it’s not raining.

More likely they’ll have one protester for every year Manning will actually serve.

17 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:21:39am

re: #15 Dr. Matt

Manning deserves to be punished. He broke the law and there is no denying that simple fact. IMO though, I hope President Obama pardons Manning January 19th, 2017. 35 years seems a bit excessive for essentially being puppet for that rapist.

Our history of clemency for national security violations should give no joy to Manning.

18 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:23:23am
19 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:26:30am

Oh crap, now #UniteBlue moonbats are Tweeting all kinds of Derp in support of Manning.

Some unfollowing will ensue.

20 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:27:19am
21 Velvet Elvis  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:28:30am

Australian Wiki Leaks party prefers coalition with neo-nazis to Greens.

22 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:28:41am

Yes, from now on let all the lecturing be from Glenn Greenwald.

Oh joy.

As far as Manning. This sentence shows the government is reasonable. Hopefully he’ll fly straight and get out in 8-10 or so. In a way I say this because I feel sorry for him in that he was naive. I bet he comes out a changed man. It will be interesting to see what he has to say about it all.

23 kirkspencer  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:29:21am

I’d like to issue a small correction as there are two factors folk are forgetting.

Good conduct earns 54 days a year after the first year. It’s not quite that clean, but in general a ‘clean’ inmate ends up serving a bit over 87% of his sentence. In that case the 35 years becomes just under 30.5 years. This depends on the behavior of the inmate so is impossible to predict, but its potential needs to be remembered.

On the other hand Manning has a fixed benefit. He’s got credit for pre-trial incarceration, and by law that applies as time served. The hundred or so days he got for misbehavior of people in charge at Qauntico is a relatively minor addition in this case but the total time served is pretty close to 3.5 years.

What this means is that at worst Manning is eligible for consideration of parole in about seven years, and with good behavior could be out in six and a half.

I doubt he’ll be out that soon, but the possibility exists.

24 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:31:29am

re: #23 kirkspencer

I’d like to issue a small correction as there are two factors folk are forgetting.

Good conduct earns 54 days a year after the first year. It’s not quite that clean, but in general a ‘clean’ inmate ends up serving a bit over 87% of his sentence. In that case the 35 years becomes just under 30.5 years. This depends on the behavior of the inmate so is impossible to predict, but its potential needs to be remembered.

On the other hand Manning has a fixed benefit. He’s got credit for pre-trial incarceration, and by law that applies as time served. The hundred or so days he got for misbehavior of people in charge at Qauntico is a relatively minor addition in this case but the total time served is pretty close to 3.5 years.

What this means is that at worst Manning is eligible for consideration of parole in about seven years, and with good behavior could be out in six and a half.

I doubt he’ll be out that soon, but the possibility exists.

Does the military play those rules?

25 kirkspencer  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:31:43am

re: #24 Decatur Deb

Does the military play those rules?

That is the military rules.

26 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:33:07am
27 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:33:33am

Glenn Tweetwald

28 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:34:59am
29 Weet  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:38:22am

I am just wondering when Greenbeck is going to realize that he’s the global laughingstock.

30 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:38:42am

re: #11 lawhawk

Yep. Try to remind people that corporate America and the FBI are greater threats to their privacy than the NSA though and the conniption fits start.

31 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:40:11am

re: #29 Weet

I am just wondering when Greenbeck is going to realize that he’s the global laughingstock.

Unfortunately he suffers from the same fate as the Sarah Palin’s of the world: ignorance is fucking bliss.

32 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:41:04am

I see Al Jazeera America has sued AT&T over its refusal to carry the network.

I can hear the wingnut rage already.

33 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:42:10am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

I can hear the wingnut rage already.

Wingnuts defending AT&T. This is going to be delicious.

34 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:42:54am

re: #28 NJDhockeyfan

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Hey, I haven’t seen that truck since the early days of OWS in Zuccotti park. Last I heard it was impounded and towed away. Nice to see they got their truck back.

35 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:44:07am

Another aspect that has grown out of this NSA spy thing is a realization that a whole generation is learning from all this. I think we see that with Salon, Rachel Maddow, Chris Hayes and others. As a boomer, I understand that as we had our Viet Nams and Watergates.

Every generation has to fight The Man.

And as we did, you learn something from it. I’m sure others of my age bracket will understand one thing we learned was who was the real deal and who were the pretenders.

36 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:45:14am

Man arrested for making United Airlines bomb threats…EIGHT TIMES

The guy was training to be a flight attendant for UNITED Airlines. How dumb can you get?

37 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:45:55am

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Hey, I haven’t seen that truck since the early days of OWS in Zuccotti park. Last I heard it was impounded and towed away. Nice to see they got their truck back.

If the logo skins aren’t a photoshop, they’re doin’ it rong.

38 Political Atheist  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:46:09am
Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald

The US will never be able to lecture world again about the value of transparency and press freedoms I will never publish on this topic again without triggering a global laughing fit

Fixd.

39 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:46:21am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

here it replaced the Current Network and so far, I have to say I approve, real news presented with little bias from what I can see.

40 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:46:52am

Absolutely no indication that he understands the difference between a military court martial and a civilian criminal trial.

41 allegro  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:47:00am

I watched about 5 minutes of GG on Cooper last night before I got completely disgusted with the guy (as his sad-faced partner sat mute next to him). I was actually a bit stunned at the following paraphrased (i.e. what I heard coming out of it) exchange:

Cooper: Was he carrying classified material?
GG: Journalists are supposed to have classified material. Every news organization has classified material. Do you want every newspaper to be searched and blah blah…? [mucho doublespeak ensued]

The fuck? So he clearly acknowledges that Miranda was in possession of classified material while arguing that this is to be applauded and celebrated. Therefore, the British government was so oppressive to freedom and journalism in detaining the guy for what is obviously illegal activity that he was, in fact and proudly, guilty of doing. I will never understand a defense of these guys.

I so hate what this whining toddler fucknoodle narcissist man and the media that is feeding him is doing to the left/progressive wing. It’s gotten terribly ugly and at a time when there is so much more positive, important stuff to fight and get done that requires unity. It’s also burying what is otherwise a very important issue (potential NSA overreach and privacy) under mountains of divisive bullshit and fear mongering from the left (as if there wasn’t enough of that from the right).

Just… damn.

42 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:48:05am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

and a lack of understanding that violating the Espionage Act is actually a big ass deal…..

43 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:49:48am

re: #41 allegro

classified material is okey dokey for journalists to have? really Glenn, who the fuck vetted you?

44 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:50:14am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Absolutely no indication that he understands the different between a military court martial and a civilian criminal trial.

Do they still teach stuff like civics and history in schools? Not to mention some folks just having general curiosity.

45 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:50:45am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

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Absolutely no indication that he understands the difference between a military court martial and a civilian criminal trial.

Just like he can’t tell the difference between a “hard drive” and a PCI graphics card.

46 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:52:10am

re: #40 Charles Johnson

Absolutely no indication that he understands the difference between a military court martial and a civilian criminal trial.

None of the dudebros seem to understand that Manning leaked all those documents in the context of his role in the military. The chances that he was going to escape prosecution were less than nil.

47 AyaReiko  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:52:59am

Yup, the naive naderites over at that site are already throwing various tantrums over this. All I can do is faceplam and wonder why I ever supported that site. And still have it bookmarked.

Meanwhile Democrat Alan Grayson (doing his best to replace ex-representative Kucinich) is busy heaping praise on the Paulian Greenwald. All the while holding out a donation plate, of course.

48 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:54:42am
49 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:57:52am

re: #48 Gus

Feel that good emoprog love!

50 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:57:52am
51 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:58:16am


I laugh at your superior intellect. /Kirk

52 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:58:22am
53 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:59:14am

Glenn Greenwald is pretty good at triggering global laughing fits.

54 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:59:56am

OT. Missed this.

Barack Obama: the first female president

Daily Caller strikes again.

55 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:00:16am

re: #50 wrenchwench

Bicicleta porn!

56 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:00:17am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

Glenn Greenwald is pretty good at triggering global twitter laughing fits.

FIFY

57 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:01:07am
58 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:01:31am

re: #41 allegro

I watched about 5 minutes of GG on Cooper last night before I got completely disgusted with the guy (as his sad-faced partner sat mute next to him). I was actually a bit stunned at the following paraphrased (i.e. what I heard coming out of it) exchange:

Cooper: Was he carrying classified material?
GG: Journalists are supposed to have classified material. Every news organization has classified material. Do you want every newspaper to be searched and blah blah…? [mucho doublespeak ensued]

Just… damn.

Glenn is word playing again. Here’s not talking about “Classified” in the Government/intelligence sense but “Classified” as in “not public information”.

Let’s say I’m a journalist and I’m working on a story but it’s not done yet because I still have more interviews/evidence gathering/research to do. I have non-public information about the story because it’s necessary to put together the completely store that will be publicly released later. I guess GG considers such information as “Classified”.

59 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:01:56am

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Bicicleta porn!

I almost put a NSFW on it.

60 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:02:03am

re: #52 Charles Johnson

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HE BROKE THE FUCKING LAW.

Good grief, how hard is this to understand?

61 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:02:42am
62 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:03:11am

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Could WikiLeaks please make up their minds? Either Manning won a significant victory over teh ebil USA or the empire is crumbling because Manning was convicted.

63 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:03:27am

re: #54 Gus

OT. Missed this.

Barack Obama: the first female president

Daily Caller strikes again.

I didn’t miss it, but I couldn’t read it all either. Bleah.

64 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:03:38am
65 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:04:16am

I wonder how seriously Brian Fischer would explode/breakdown/go insane if a gay POTUS was ever elected.

66 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:04:46am

How is life?

67 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:04:54am

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan

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Americans are supposed to put lives and national security at risk for the sake of freedom of information?

68 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:05:07am

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan

An American soldier is supposed to leak classified military information to the internet? Really?

69 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:05:38am

There is an “I Stand with Bradley Manning” meme of fb this am.

I don’t understand.

70 b.d.  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:06:18am

My memory ain’t worth a crap but I” be damned if I can remember GLenn Greenwald or any other DudeBro defending Judy Miller when she got thrown in the pokey?

71 allegro  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:08:15am

re: #58 Eclectic Cyborg

Glenn is word playing again. Here’s not talking about “Classified” in the Government/intelligence sense but “Classified” as in “not public information”.

Let’s say I’m a journalist and I’m working on a story but it’s not done yet because I still have more interviews/evidence gathering/research to do. I have non-public information about the story because it’s necessary to put together the completely store that will be publicly released later. I guess GG considers such information as “Classified”.

When the entire topic is about stolen government classified documents, I have trouble with this explanation. “Word playing” isn’t an adequate description at least. Deliberate obfuscation for a semantic out to be used later in a criminal defense? Izzat it?

72 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:09:24am

I can’t find Global filter on Tweetdeck, who can tell me where it is?

73 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:09:27am

re: #41 allegro

Government classified information ≠ work product. It just isn’t.

Greenwald is once again trying to confuse people by making work product equal to the classified information released by Snowden or Manning, and later published by him or Wikileaks.

Attorneys have a work product doctrine, which keeps the work product from the prying eyes of the opposition. It’s for only those who are privy to the work file.

Journalists too have a work product doctrine, protecting sources, etc.

74 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:10:46am

The kid got off really, really easy.

75 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:11:23am

The Immortality Financiers: The Billionaires Who Want to Live Forever

Why?

76 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:11:46am


Strategic victory?

77 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:12:08am

Diet Culture Gone Bonkers: Woman Ingests Tapeworm to Drop Pounds

ewwwwww!

78 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:13:01am

re: #77 FemNaziBitch

Diet Culture Gone Bonkers: Woman Ingests Tapeworm to Drop Pounds

ewwwwww!

Wasn’t that actually a thing 100 years ago?

79 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:14:13am
80 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:14:48am

Tapeworm ad from 100 years ago.

81 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:14:51am

re: #69 FemNaziBitch

There is an “I Stand with Bradley Manning” meme of fb this am.

I don’t understand.

Doubt they’ll want to stand in chow line with him in a few weeks.

82 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:15:02am

re: #54 Gus

Tucker is trying waaaaaay to hard to troll the Left. He needs lessons from erickkk son of erickkk

83 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:15:33am

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

Yeah, Wikileaks and it’s key people aren’t the ones going to prison. So they get to continue spreading their nonsense. Manning? Not so much.

84 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:15:44am

Sooo,
A certain group of people should have the right to say and do whatever the fuck they want, to whomever they want, without criticism or consequence. Otherwise they are being persecuted.

Got it.

85 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:15:45am

re: #75 FemNaziBitch

The Immortality Financiers: The Billionaires Who Want to Live Forever

Why?

Youtube Video

86 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:18:08am

4 Big Reasons Orson Scott Is a Goddamn Lunatic

87 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:18:08am

re: #84 OhNoZombies!

Sooo,
A certain group of people should have the right to say and do whatever the fuck they want, to whomever they want, without criticism or consequence. Otherwise they are being persecuted.

Got it.

Privilege is addictive. So hard to give up. Most people don’t even think about it.

88 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:18:19am
7,000 Gun-Loving ‘Patriots’ Living in an Walled Citadel Built Around an Arms Factory in Idaho — What Could Possibly Go Wrong?

“I don’t think that the current Citadel plan has much chance of success,” Rawles wrote on his blog. Other far-right criticism came from Patrice Lewis, a columnist for the conspiracy-minded WorldNetDaily “news” website. Lewis lives in Benewah County and describes herself as “a practical constitutional conservative stay-at-home gun-toting homeschooling cow-milking rural-living Christian mom.”

“Truth be told,” she said of III Citadel, “it’s something of a regional embarrassment, the nagging feeling that the rest of the nation will (as usual) regard Idaho as a collection of tinfoil-hat-wearing nut jobs holing up in the mountains against an economic collapse.”

Paged

89 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:19:36am

re: #87 wrenchwench

Privilege is addictive. So hard to give up. Most people don’t even think about it.

Primus inter pares?

90 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:21:33am

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

Primus inter pares?

Never among equals, though, just first. Individualism to the extreme.

91 erik_t  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:21:44am

re: #76 NJDhockeyfan

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Strategic victory?

“Strategic victory” is when your pawn goes to the slammer for a decade and you get to keep fundraising off his name (he will naturally see not a dime of this).

92 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:21:45am

re: #85 Kragar

There can be only One!

93 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:22:40am

re: #88 FemNaziBitch

Hey remember this?

Finally got a reply - not raging/flaming as I thought, more like cold-blooded justification (which is also to be expected, I suppose).

94 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:23:03am
We are writing to bring to your attention the case of a poor 16-year-old Afghan girl named Shakila, who was raped and murdered on 22 January 2012 by Wahidi Behishti, a warlord member of the provincial council of Bamian province.

We feel strongly that Wahidi Behishti should be prosecuted for this crime to the full extent of Afghan law, however fellow warlords like Sayed Hussain Anwari, Alami Balki and other members of Parliament are defending Wahidi Behishti by creating a story about Shakila’s supposed suicide and falsely accusing Shakila’s brother-in-law of the crime.

Because of the corruption within the judicial system in Afghanistan, powerful forces are conspiring to close the case and rule in favor of Wahidi Behishti despite the meticulous forensic reports, witness testimony and other supporting evidence that Shakila’s family has compiled.

For too long powerful warlords have waged a war against Afghan women. The international media, human rights organizations and global citizens can no longer standby and allow these crimes to take place with complete impunity. In the name of justice for the countless Afghan women who have died and continue to be targeted by heinous violence, we urge you to tell and investigate Shakila’s story.

To learn more about the case, please contact the Defense Committee for Malalai Joya at: malalaijoya.com

Many thanks in advance for your time and support.

95 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:25:12am

re: #93 Interesting Times

Hey remember this?

Finally got a reply - not raging/flaming as I thought, more like cold-blooded justification (which is also to be expected, I suppose).

After one solid punch, she never tried to slap me again. She never even wanted to get into another confrontation. She learned to not poke. Her male friend which introduced us was standing right there, I fully expected him to do something, he just stepped back and told her she deserved it. I’m not the only bear on this planet. Far from it, which is why you keep your hands to yourself unless your shaking on a agreement.

cowered, submissive —just the way abusers like their minions.

96 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:25:48am
97 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:26:58am

re: #95 FemNaziBitch

cowered, submissive —just the way abusers like their minions.

I guess the world can only work one way —his way?

98 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:29:33am

get involved

99 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:29:54am

re: #97 FemNaziBitch

cowered, submissive —just the way abusers like their minions.

I guess the world can only work one way —his way?

I’d like to tell him, good luck trying that long-winded justification on the judge at his manslaughter trial (which he’ll experience soon enough, since he believes inflicting bodily harm is a justified response to a slap).

100 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:30:28am

re: #93 Interesting Times

Hey remember this?

Finally got a reply - not raging/flaming as I thought, more like cold-blooded justification (which is also to be expected, I suppose).

Why did she even continue to go out with this asshole?

101 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:32:39am

re: #100 Vicious Babushka

Why did she even continue to go out with this asshole?

Predators pick their targets.

I don’t understand the Cycle of Domestic Abuse, yet it is very real and prevalent.

102 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:33:57am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

Predators pick their targets.

I don’t understand the Cycle of Domestic Abuse, yet it is very real and prevalent.

She was probably convinced it was her fault “because she slapped first.”

103 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:34:17am

Dudebro Riots

104 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:34:17am

Abuse is never a One Time Event.

105 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:34:20am
106 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:34:25am

Creationist: Tyrannosaurus rex was created to eat plants

The legendary Tyrannosaurus rex probably “ate people” and other dinosaurs, he said in video uploaded to YouTube on Tuesday. But the huge dinosaur with teeth as big as bananas was truly a herbivore, despite its predatory tendencies.

“One thing is for sure, the theropod dinosaurs were not created to eat meat,” Taylor said. “God created all creatures to eat plants, and he gave some of them sharp teeth so that they would be able to do so. Some of those particular mechanisms of different sorts, including teeth, may have changed after Adam’s sin so that such creatures could eat meat.”

Just because animals have large sharp teeth doesn’t mean they are meat-eaters, he explained.

107 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:35:05am

What a lickspittle toady this Dudebro is.

108 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:35:16am

Heh.

109 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:36:21am

re: #106 Kragar

Creationist: Tyrannosaurus rex was created to eat plants

Just because animals have large sharp teeth doesn’t mean they are meat-eaters, he explained.

Oh. Okay. If ever he’s confronted by such an animal, he’s welcome to test that theory out.

110 allegro  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:36:50am

re: #106 Kragar

Creationist: Tyrannosaurus rex was created to eat plants

So Eve eating an apple changed the teeth of the TRex to eat her. Can’t say Bryan’s god doesn’t have a sense of humor.

111 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:37:01am

re: #109 Interesting Times

Oh. Okay. If ever he’s confronted by such an animal, he’s welcome to test that theory out.

Just remember, if you can eat it, it can eat you …

112 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:20am

re: #109 Interesting Times

Oh. Okay. If ever he’s confronted by such an animal, he’s welcome to test that theory out.

This is a Velociraptor-free Workplace

113 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:29am
Abusers often have low self-esteem. They do not take responsibility for their actions. They may even blame the victim for causing the violence. In most cases, men abuse female victims. It is important to remember that women can also be abusers and men can be victims.

Yeah, seems to fit the profile.

114 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:29am

re: #86 Kragar

I will remember Number 4 when Mormon Missionaries come to my door.

115 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:30am

And republicans somehow find a new low to sink to:

116 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:39am

Now for something completely different. Hope this Slate story pans out, because we need it.

The Level-Headed School Clerk Who Talked the Ga. School Gunman Into Surrendering

slate.com

117 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:41am


Could be “a provocation” Ya think? Russia doesn’t seem to be too upset about reported chemical weapon use by Assad.

118 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:38:44am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

Here’s the link to the entire thread. The last response pretty much sums up everything I wanted to say in a tweet-friendly length.

119 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:41:21am
120 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:42:00am

Wow. Revealing:

That’s right - he’s proud of working for a newspaper (the Guardian) that never criticizes itself.

121 erik_t  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:42:31am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

Wow. Revealing:

That’s right - he’s proud of working for a newspaper (the Guardian) that never criticizes itself.

Ombudsmen are for little people.

122 GlutenFreeJesus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:43:30am

Manning will be all but forgotten in a week as he has served his purpose to the WL/GG Dudebro Freedom Coalition.

123 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:45:48am

Maggie Gallagher: Chris Christie ‘Banned Chastity’ By Signing Ex-Gay Therapy Ban

These people need serious mental health care.

124 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:46:03am

re: #122 efuseakay

Manning will be all but forgotten in a week as he has served his purpose to the WL/GG Dudebro Freedom Coalition.

Who is Barrett Brown?

125 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:46:22am
126 dog philosopher  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:47:08am

here is the manning supporters’ view

What did WikiLeaks reveal?

There is an official policy to ignore torture in Iraq

U.S. officials were told to cover up evidence of child abuse by contractors in Afghanistan

Guantanamo prison has held mostly innocent people and low-level operatives

There is an official tally of civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan

U.S. Military officials withheld information about the
indiscriminate killing of Reuters journalists and innocent Iraqi
civilians

The State Department backed corporate opposition to a Haitian minimum wage law

The U.S. Government had long been faking its public support for Tunisian President Ben Ali

Known Egyptian torturers received training from the FBI in Quantico, Virginia

127 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:47:14am

In Tribute, I post this

128 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:47:49am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

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This is being reviewed in the Illinois State House—and many other states.

129 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:49:05am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

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That is some utter and complete bullshit right there.

130 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:49:13am

re: #123 Kragar

Maggie Gallagher: Chris Christie ‘Banned Chastity’ By Signing Ex-Gay Therapy Ban

These people need serious mental health care.

My response to such claims

131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:49:48am
132 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:50:06am

re: #125 Vicious Babushka

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Sick.

134 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:51:04am


135 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:52:30am
136 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:53:20am

re: #135 Lidane

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Why does a creationist museum have a zip line?

137 erik_t  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:53:28am

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

@nathanLfuller #Manning statement, via Coombs: US response to 9/11 will be viewed in same light as McCarthyism & Japanese-American internment camps

I don’t necessarily disagree. You still can’t just spew classified material like a drunken firehose.

138 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:53:45am

re: #115 Dr. Matt

So basically, POTUS is a Time Lord, or he’s got access to a TARDIS.

139 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:54:36am

re: #136 Kragar

Why does a creationist museum have a zip line?

because they don’t offer WATTS lines anymore?

140 122 Year Old Obama  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:54:54am

re: #138 Lidane

Or the DeLorean.

141 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:55:31am

re: #137 erik_t

I don’t necessarily disagree. You still can’t just spew classified material like a drunken firehose.

Yeah, not wildly radical. Some would go over the top with plenty of Godwin.

142 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:56:00am

re: #136 Kragar

Why does a creationist museum have a zip line?

To escape from the Tyrannosaurus, silly.

143 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:57:09am

Tennessee church bans family after daughter wins same sex benefits from town

SCREW YOU GUYS! I’LL GO SET UP MY OWN CHURCH… WITH BLACK JACK… AND HOOKERS!

144 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:57:24am

re: #136 Kragar

Why does a creationist museum have a zip line?

Because shut up.

145 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:57:32am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

To escape from the Tyrannosaurus, silly.

Just toss them a head of lettuce. You’ll be fine.

146 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:58:02am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

To escape from the Tyrannosaurus, silly.

But why? The T-Rex was clearly designed to eat plants.

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147 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:58:03am

bbl —gotta get my mommy.

148 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:58:06am

re: #145 Kragar

Just toss them a head of lettuce. You’ll be fine a taco.

149 b.d.  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:58:45am

re: #136 Kragar

Why does a creationist museum have a zip line?

The zip line attraction opened this spring to help the religion-themed museum attract a wider audience.

Read more: wlwt.com

I’d say it worked.

150 dog philosopher  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:58:48am

Man struck by lightning on Creation

he was secretly harboring heretical doubts and might have even been an agnostic

151 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:59:18am

re: #146 Lidane

But why? The T-Rex was clearly designed to eat plants.

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T. Rex can’t tell a YE creationist from a plant, once it starts talking.

152 Interesting Times  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:59:40am

re: #113 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, seems to fit the profile.

See his reply to the last response. He certainly puts a lot of thought and effort into how much he thinks he can get away with.

153 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:00:39am

re: #149 b.d.

I’d say it worked.

So Moses crossed the Red Sea on a zip line? The wise men ziplined into the manger? I’m missing something here.

154 piratedan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:00:44am

re: #126 dog philosopher

a great list if it was completely accurate, but naturally there’s room for interpretation. Although in my mind, the leaks did help in outing contractor abuses but there’s some serious no-no’s in there along the way..

155 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:01:32am

Wingnuts have been Tweeting this all day:


When I suggest that the solution is to PAY WORKERS MOAR they like all outraged, MINWAGE WORKERS DON’T DESERVE MOAR U COMMIE!!111!! THEN EVERYTHING WILL COST MOAR!!11!! THEY’LL RAISE ALL TEH PRICES!!!!11!!!!

156 allegro  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:03:30am

re: #152 Interesting Times

See his reply to the last response. He certainly puts a lot of thought and effort into how much he thinks he can get away with.

He makes a good point though. She really shouldn’t waste time with police and courts. She should be running the hell away from this asshole as fast as she can… while she can.

157 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:04:04am

re: #156 allegro

He makes a good point though. She really shouldn’t waste time with police and courts. She should be running the hell away from this asshole as fast as she can… while she can.

Yeah but she’s thinking “It’s my fault!”

158 allegro  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:06:06am

re: #157 Vicious Babushka

Yeah but she’s thinking “It’s my fault!”

“Look what she made me do!” Yeah, I know. I hope she figures it out soon.

159 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:07:44am


What the …

You know, I getting sick and fucking tired of Fischer’s shit

160 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:07:56am

re: #138 Lidane

So basically, POTUS is a Time Lord, or he’s got access to a TARDIS.

The evidence is pretty convincing.

1. Multiple claims that he’s not an American citizen;

2. He’s being blamed for events before his presidency began (poor government response during and after Katrina);

3. He’s endowed with supernatural powers to control and shape events, even those of foreign governments;

4. A fawning media and loyal fanbase that doesn’t question any statement uttered.

5. He’s got his own logo; and

6. We already know that the TARDIS has paid a visit to the White House (and 10 Downing Street).

161 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:08:02am
162 darthstar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:08:18am
163 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:08:20am
164 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:09:02am

Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame.

165 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:09:17am

I thought Glenn was supposed to be all about TEH JOURNALISM and not just all about TEH GLENN.

166 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:10:02am

re: #164 Gus

Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame.

WTF

167 dog philosopher  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:10:19am

What The Media Won’t Tell You About Bryan Fischer

he hallucinated his last sixteen pairs of underwear

168 darthstar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:10:21am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Said statement:
GRAWK! BRKLFRMP! NSA! SPLRXXPHFFT!

169 erik_t  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:10:27am

re: #164 Gus

Twenty-eight percent said they think former President George W. Bush, who was in office at the time, was more responsible for the poor federal response while 29 percent said Obama, who was still a freshman U.S. Senator when the storm battered the Gulf Coast in 2005, was more responsible. Nearly half of Louisiana Republicans — 44 percent — said they aren’t sure who to blame.

THANKS, OBAMA

170 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:12:51am
171 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:13:23am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Glenn Greenwald ✔ @ggreenwald

MSNBC’s 4 pm show said they were discussing my NSA reporting and asked for a statement, which they promised to read. We’ll see if they do.

AND IF THEY DO NOT, I WILL DESTROY THEM!

172 darthstar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:14:11am

re: #171 Charles Johnson

AND IF THEY DO NOT, I WILL DESTROY THEM!

I think he’s already doing that on a thrice weekly basis.

173 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:14:45am
174 darthstar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:16:04am
175 b.d.  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:16:16am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

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Sumbitches better enunciate my words correctly and use those little sky scare quotes where noted.

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176 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:16:19am

All of the women I know (more than i want to think about) who stay in abusive relationships were raised in abusive households. They’ve been conditioned to blame themselves.

Two of them fail to even realize that they are being abused, since they’re not actually being hit. All the while, their daughters and sons are witnessing and absorbing this behavior.
On to the next generation.

177 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:16:22am
178 b.d.  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:17:37am

re: #173 Charles Johnson

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OMG the CIA blew up a mail truck!!/1 Probably because it was carrying sensitive information that would have expossed them!!1!

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179 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:18:43am
180 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:18:45am

re: #177 Lidane

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When did religious liberty become “everyone needs to follow Christian beliefs”?

181 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:20:02am

re: #180 Kragar

When did religious liberty become “everyone needs to follow Christian beliefs”?

Since shut up.
/

182 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:20:03am

ARE RELIJUS BELIEVES REKWIREZ US 2 BEAT UP TEH GHEY EVERY WHERE!!11

183 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:20:28am

That was home-school spelling in the previous post.

184 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:20:44am

18th Accuser Says Filner Put His Hand On Her Backside During Photo Op

And yes, he is being recalled. They’re circulating the petitions now.

185 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:21:50am

Religious liberty?

Nope.

Chuck Testa.

186 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:25:19am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

It’s fear based. No one makes good decisions when locked into fear like that. It’s not love, it’s a toxic mimic of love. I cringe when I hear love as a reason for staying, it’s not love. It’s fear, raw, primal, fear.

I know from experience. It took an attack on a child in my presence to move me forward. And even that was one of the hardest things I have ever done. It’s bizarre and insane and it makes no sense. Which in some ways is good, it shouldn’t make sense. Not to sane people. The bad part of that though is the judgement that falls on the victim/hopefully survivor.

I wasn’t raised in a home where Dad hit Mom. Mom hit us though and was just freaking mean, I’m not sure if that was a part of the issue or not.( I found out as an adult she had been horribly abused as a child, sexually and physically- I have since forgiven her) It’s been more than a quarter century since I left that asshole and I still can’t figure the whole thing out. I do know I was lucky to get out of there in one physical piece. Every now and then I look up his arrest record, it’s full of sexual assault and domestic violence charges. He still lives in the same place, far enough away that I shouldn’t ever run into him, but I still find myself getting scared a little when I see anyone who looks like him.

Nope, it makes no sense. I think the point is that it truly shouldn’t ever.

187 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:27:02am

re: #70 b.d.

My memory ain’t worth a crap but I” be damned if I can remember GLenn Greenwald or any other DudeBro defending Judy Miller when she got thrown in the pokey?

IIRC, that case was not about secrets she revealed, but some she refused to reveal —her confidential sources. Not quite analogous. [ed] But you make a good point.

189 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:27:11am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Or what? He’ll tweet empty threats?

190 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:29:42am

re: #189 Internet Tough Guy

Or what? He’ll tweet empty threats?

THEY WILL RUE THE DAY THEY TRIFLED WITH THE GG!

191 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:29:49am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Now for something completely different. Hope this Slate story pans out, because we need it.

The Level-Headed School Clerk Who Talked the Ga. School Gunman Into Surrendering

slate.com

Wow. She disarmed him and had him laying on the ground. By talking to him. Because she saw him as a fellow human being.

192 jaunte  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:30:06am

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

MSNBC’s 4 pm show said they were discussing my NSA reporting and asked for a statement, which they promised to read. We’ll see if they do.

If they don’t…. well, you can see what happened to England!!!

193 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:30:37am

re: #191 wrenchwench

Wow. She disarmed him and had him laying on the ground. By talking to him. Because she saw him as a fellow human being.

IT’S BECAUSE SHE HAD A BIGGER GUN!!11!! DON’T BELIEVE TEH LIBRUL MEDIA!!!!11!!!!!!

194 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:31:37am

re: #171 Charles Johnson

AND IF THEY DO NOT, I WILL DESTROY THEM!

195 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:32:37am
196 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:32:47am

re: #190 Kragar

THEY WILL RUE THE DAY THEY TRIFLED WITH THE GG!

“Rue the day”? Who talks like that?

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197 jaunte  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:33:29am

re: #194 Gus

“Hair-trigger sanctimony”
— Bob Cesca

198 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:34:12am

Reporter Taken Off Air After Slamming Anti-Gay Law On ‘Russia Today’ Network

A reporter was taken off the air Wednesday from Russian-based television network RT after interrupting a panel on Bradley Manning’s sentencing to speak for several minutes against the country’s recently passed anti-gay laws.

“Being here on a Kremlin-funded propaganda network, I’m going to wear my gay pride suspenders and speak out against the horrific, anti-gay legislation that Vladimir Putin has signed into law,” reporter James Kirchick said.

“RT has been Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden 24/7. I haven’t seen anything on your network about the anti-gay laws that have been passed in Russia,” he continued.

RT hosts frequently interjected to try to steer the discussion back to Bradley Manning, but were unsuccessful. One host pointed out to Kirchick that the network aired a panel discussion with members of the LGBT community the previous week to discuss the new laws.

“You have 24 hours a day to lie about the United States and to ignore what’s happening in Russia,” Kirchick said over the hosts. “I’m going to take my two minutes and tell people the truth.”

199 erik_t  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:34:52am

re: #198 Kragar

Reporter Taken Off Air After Slamming Anti-Gay Law On ‘Russia Today’ Network

Yabut why isn’t she OMFG JOURNALIST COURAGEOUS sending her spouse through customs like a common drug mule?

200 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:38:35am

Ah, threats if his manifesto isn’t read in full. He’s so full of himself that he’s nearly impossible to satirize.

I said nearly impossible, but it could be done.

Whose Line Is It Anyways:

Now, we’re going to read from Greenwald’s manifesto in the form of a sonnet. Wayne Brady, take it away….

I wish to see Manning free
It was nothing but a travesty
Obama will pay
For his dishonesty.

Now, read from it as though you’re Walter Cronkite. Ryne Stiles scratches his head for a moment…

Umm… this isn’t a scoop since we reported this back in 2007 and everyone knows that the NSA has the power to conduct searches on foreign communications; US requires warrants on searches of US citizens. Wait, this isn’t news, it’s a temper tantrum. That’s the news, and I am out of here.

201 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:38:39am

re: #199 erik_t

Yabut why isn’t she OMFG JOURNALIST COURAGEOUS sending her spouse through customs like a common drug mule?

Dudebros are all ZOMG OUTRAGED at the “drug mule” comparison

203 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:40:14am

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

Dudebros are all ZOMG OUTRAGED at the “drug mule” comparison

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I don’t think its a valid comparison. Drug mules are usually more aware of the circumstances of their situation.

204 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:40:28am

re: #196 Targetpractice

“Rue the day”? Who talks like that?

//

Stewie Griffin.

205 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:40:38am

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

Dudebros are all ZOMG OUTRAGED at the “drug mule” comparison

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What do you call someone whose job is sneak something illegal from point A to point B? And don’t say “courier,” because they only take legit packages…so long as they’re not platinum casino chips.

206 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:41:02am

re: #205 Targetpractice

What do you call someone whose job is sneak something illegal from point A to point B? And don’t say “courier,” because they only take legit packages…so long as they’re not platinum casino chips.

Smuggler.

207 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:41:25am

re: #205 Targetpractice

What do you call someone whose job is sneak something illegal from point A to point B? And don’t say “courier,” because they only take legit packages…so long as they’re not platinum casino chips.

The GG always wins.

208 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:42:03am

re: #203 Kragar

I don’t think its a valid comparison. Drug mules are usually more aware of the circumstances of their situation.

The ones who aren’t are known as blind mules.

Miranda is probably myopic at best.

209 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:42:13am

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

Dudebros are all ZOMG OUTRAGED at the “drug mule” comparison

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Be fair. Drug traffickers prefer that their mules get through unmolested by police. I’m not convinced that The GG did.

210 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:43:31am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

Smuggler.

Touche.

211 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:43:35am

re: #206 Vicious Babushka

Smuggler.

Accomplice.

212 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:43:51am

David, meet #lnyhbt. #lnyhbt, meet David.
Match made in the pit of Hell.

213 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:44:26am

Top Conservative Pundit: If I Were Starting from Scratch, I Would Outlaw Alcohol and Allow Marijuana

“If I were starting a society from scratch, I would outlaw alcohol and allow marijuana,” conservative columnist and pundit Charles Krauthammer said on the O’Reilly Factor Tuesday.

O’Reilly and Krauthammer began the segment about Washington’s and Colorado’s recent marijuana legalization laws in agreement, bemoaning together the lenient enforcement of the Washington law’s 21-or-older age limit.

But when O’Reilly began to hyperbolize, the harmony disappeared. “Once a child gets involved with intoxication of any kind…childhood is over, their whole life changes, and not for the better, and this is what’s happening in America,” O’Reilly said. Krauthammer responded by contrasting the risks of marijuana use with alcohol.

“Let me stipulate a couple of things,” he began. “Number one, alcohol is a lot worse. I’ve seen what it does as a doctor. It destroys the body — aggression, car accidents, a lot of damage. If I were starting a society from scratch and had to choose the intoxicant, I would outlaw alcohol and I’d allow marijuana. It’s benign compared to alcohol.”

214 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:45:47am

re: #212 Vicious Babushka

David, meet #lnyhbt. #lnyhbt, meet David.
Match made in the pit of Hell.

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OK, so I get to agree with Sirota. Policies acted on under Obama have been barely left of center.

215 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:46:00am

re: #212 Vicious Babushka

David, meet #lnyhbt. #lnyhbt, meet David.
Match made in the pit of Hell.

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These damn radical moderate centerists will drag us into revolution!

216 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:46:45am

re: #196 Targetpractice

Upding for Real Genius reference.

217 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:52:30am

re: #178 b.d.

OMG the CIA blew up a mail truck!!/1 Probably because it was carrying sensitive information that would have expossed them!!1!

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And used their secret time machine in order to do it!
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218 Gus  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:55:45am
219 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:56:24am

re: #200 lawhawk

Ah, threats if his manifesto isn’t read in full. He’s so full of himself that he’s nearly impossible to satirize.

I said nearly impossible, but it could be done.

Whose Line Is It Anyways:

Now, we’re going to read from Greenwald’s manifesto in the form of a sonnet. Wayne Brady, take it away….

I wish to see Manning free
It was nothing but a travesty
Obama will pay
For his dishonesty.

Now, read from it as though you’re Walter Cronkite. Ryne Stiles scratches his head for a moment…

Umm… this isn’t a scoop since we reported this back in 2007 and everyone knows that the NSA has the power to conduct searches on foreign communications; US requires warrants on searches of US citizens. Wait, this isn’t news, it’s a temper tantrum. That’s the news, and I am out of here.

Brilliant.

The Monty Python reading of it would be interrupted about six words in by Graham Chapman’s Army Officer stopping us and telling us it was too silly.

220 Lidane  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:58:09am
221 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:58:30am

re: #218 Gus

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The word I think they’re looking for is destruction.

222 Kragar  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 11:58:56am

re: #221 Kragar

The word I think they’re looking for is destruction.

Or it might be distraction.

223 BroncD  Wed, Aug 21, 2013 9:08:44pm

I realize it’s pointless to plumb the depths of Greenwald’s bizarre obsessions, but… what the hell does Bradley Manning have to do with press freedoms? The one has NOTHING to do with the other.


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