More Lies From Glenn Greenwald - Update: And an Undisclosed Conflict of Interest

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Advocate for anarchy Glenn Greenwald is interviewed in Truth-Out today, and yes — he’s still lying about his partner David Miranda being “denied” a lawyer during his detention at Heathrow Airport: Exclusive Glenn Greenwald Interview: ‘I Won’t Be Kept Out of My Country for Doing Journalism!’

Note that the fawning Truth-Out interviewer seems to believe US Miranda warning laws apply in the UK — and Greenwald does nothing to disabuse him of it.

Jonathan Franklin: Your partner, David Miranda, was detained and held at Heathrow airport for 9 hours; all his electronics were taken away, and he was interrogated about your reporting on the NSA. What was the message the US/UK governments were trying to send you by detaining David Miranda?

Glenn Greenwald: That if we continue to report on what the NSA and [the UK surveillance agency] GCHQ are doing, they will continue to target us for all sorts of retribution.

JF: Puts a different meaning to the term “Miranda” warning, eh?

GG: Yeah, it is ironic that he was denied the right to the lawyer; they actually offered one of their lawyers, and he said he didn’t trust their lawyers and wanted his own, and they refused that; so yeah, there is an irony there.

There’s no other way to describe this: it’s a bald-faced lie. Greenwald knows that David Miranda was given a lawyer during his detention, yet he makes absolutely no mention of this fact, and instead states once again that Miranda was “denied the right to a lawyer.”

It’s an outright lie. If you wonder why I seem so critical of Glenn Greenwald, look no further than lies like this one. He knows his story sounds much more dramatic if he obfuscates about this issue, so that’s what he’s doing. He’s playing the left.

The theme of the interview, by the way, is Greenwald’s incredible, wondrous bravery, and how he’s not going to be intimidated by the evil US government. And boy, does he ever think the US is evil. How evil?

JF: How do you think history will remember this whole affair? It is still unfolding but nonetheless, a lot has already gone down. What is Glenn Greenwald’s prediction on the historic legacy of all this?

GG: I think this will be the time the world realizes that the US and its closest allies are trying to build a surveillance system that has as its primary objective the elimination of privacy globally, by which I mean that everyone’s communications electronically will be collected, stored, analyzed and monitored by the US government.

The “primary objective” of the NSA is “the elimination of privacy globally?” Seriously? And the evil US is planning to “collect, store, analyze and monitor” the communications of every single person in the entire world? All 7.1 billion of them?

Good grief. This is tin-foil hat territory, folks, and it’s not the first time he’s made this insanely hyperbolic claim.

Meanwhile, in the rest of the interview Greenwald admits openly that his partner was “muling” documents to and from Greenwald’s collaborator Laura Poitras, another fact that he initially tried to conceal.

UPDATE at 8/26/13 11:29:07 am

By the way, shouldn’t Glenn Greenwald or Truth-Out have disclosed that Greenwald is on the board of an organization raising money for Truth-Out and Wikileaks? (h/t: Gus.)

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195 comments

1 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:46:53am

Rather than admit that what he is doing is not “Journalism” in any way, shape or form, Glenn insists that Journalism has to be redefined to match whatever it is that he is doing.

2 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:47:08am
the US and its closest allies are trying to build a surveillance system that has as its primary objective the elimination of privacy globally, by which I mean that everyone’s communications electronically will be collected, stored, analyzed and monitored by the US government.

All the LOLs are going to drive the spymasters nuts. ///

3 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:47:33am

Autoerotic circle of derp:
1. Greenwald puts bullshit on the internet.
2. Greenwald reads his bullshit on the internet.
3. Greenwald puts more shit based on his shit on the internet.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

4 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:47:41am

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5 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:48:45am

re: #3 darthstar

Autoerotic circle of derp:
1. Greenwald puts bullshit on the internet.
2. Greenwald reads his bullshit on the internet.
3. Greenwald puts more shit based on his shit on the internet.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

Journalistic Pyramid Scheme

6 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:48:50am
7 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:49:00am

re: #5 Gus

Journalistic Pyramid Scheme

Profit!

8 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:50:42am
9 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:50:49am

Clearly the Great Firewall of China, to which Teh GG’s laptop-lapdog fled, is merely to protect the freedom-loving citizens of the People’s Republic of China from this evil nefarious US information-gathering scheme.

Christ on a chalupa, this is absurd.

10 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:51:44am

re: #5 Gus

Journalistic Pyramid Scheme

Classic Soviet propaganda craft:

1. Pravda 2nd page has BS story with strong Indian slant.
2. Times of Delhi expounds on story.
3. Tass front-pages a story sourced from India.

11 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:52:57am

re: #9 erik_t

Clearly the Great Firewall of China, to which Teh GG’s laptop-lapdog fled, is merely to protect the freedom-loving citizens of the People’s Republic of China from this evil nefarious US information-gathering scheme.

Christ on a chalupa, this is absurd.

That sentence may be the best thing to come out of this debacle so far.

12 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:53:30am
13 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:54:18am

re: #1 Vicious Babushka

Hunter S. Thompson used to say that striving for total objectivity in journalism was bullshit and that you had to get subjective to really dig into the truth of a story. That doesn’t mean he had much sympathy for people posting total lies and calling it journalism, though.

14 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:55:15am

he’s like Fox News without the bothersome Network go betweens…. GG pundits something, then speculates on his punditry and then states it as fact as if any of this shit comes from another source other than himself. He obviously has vocabulary issues because once he alleges something earlier in an article, he alleges it as fact later on and then mealymouths the reality buried in paragraph five. He’s both shit and shinola in one great polished turd of a package.

15 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:55:40am
the elimination of privacy globally

For once, Glenn doesn’t think that it’s all about him.

I can’t wait for the Jesse Ventura/Glenn Greenwal interview.

16 Hal_10000  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:56:03am

Greenwald does acknowledge that Miranda was offered one of the govt’s lawyers but refused. The Guardian article doesn’t make it clear if the lawyer present of the last hour was Miranda’s lawyer or the governments. If the latter, I think he has a point. Providing a lawyer the government approves of is not the same as providing someone with a lawyer they want. This is obvious in how Miranda’s lawyer eventually won an injunction against using the seized data, something the govt lawyer might not have done.

17 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:56:06am
18 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:56:39am

Who needs the NSA when we give away our privacy anyway?

A handful of tech startups are using social data to determine the risk of lending to people who have a difficult time accessing credit. Traditional lenders rely heavily on credit scores like FICO, which look at payments history. They typically steer clear of the millions of people who don’t have credit scores.

But some financial lending companies have found that social connections can be a good indicator of a person’s creditworthiness.

19 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:57:13am

re: #17 darthstar

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I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

20 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:57:14am

re: #13 Lidane

Hunter S. Thompson used to say that striving for total objectivity in journalism was bullshit and that you had to get subjective to really dig into the truth of a story. That doesn’t mean he had much sympathy for people posting total lies and calling it journalism, though.

The notion that journalism could and should be objective dates post-WWII. Before that the only ethic was that a paper’s biases were expected to be overt, often reflected in the paper’s name. Read WWII news articles for a fine collection of “BS, but our BS”.

21 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:58:54am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

Isn’t that what the internet is all about?

22 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:59:32am

re: #20 Decatur Deb

The notion that journalism could and should be objective dates post-WWII. Before that the only ethic was that a paper’s biases were expected to be overt, often reflected in the paper’s name. Read WWII news articles for a fine collection of “BS, but our BS”.

Interesting. I didn’t know that.

23 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:00:07am

Okay…meeting time. All hail the scrum.

24 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:00:27am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

I didn’t know that either. Sheesh.

25 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:00:35am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

Huh. Hadn’t heard that. I’m a little skeptical, because from what I’ve read, Gawker isn’t exactly a paragon of truth and decorum.

26 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:01:43am

re: #25 Mattand

Huh. Hadn’t heard that. I’m a little skeptical, because from what I’ve read, Gawker isn’t exactly a paragon of truth and decorum.

Yeah, um…. Gawker.

[Citation needed] is the weakest possible phrasing.

27 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:02:27am

re: #16 Hal_10000

Greenwald does acknowledge that Miranda was offered one of the govt’s lawyers but refused.

Yet somehow fails to mention that he did eventually have a lawyer. That’s not an accident.

The Guardian article doesn’t make it clear if the lawyer present of the last hour was Miranda’s lawyer or the governments. If the latter, I think he has a point.

And given the unbroken pattern of dishonesty, I’m not willing to grant that point. In fact, I think it’s far more likely, given the Guardian’s deliberate vagueness, that Miranda did have his own lawyer.

Providing a lawyer the government approves of is not the same as providing someone with a lawyer they want. This is obvious in how Miranda’s lawyer eventually won an injunction against using the seized data, something the govt lawyer might not have done.

The injunction was FAR from a victory for Miranda — it explicitly refused to give him back the documents he was muling, and explicitly concluded that the authorities acted within the law.

28 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:03:34am

re: #22 CuriousLurker

Interesting. I didn’t know that.

Relicta:

timesrepublican.com

demo-mo.com

29 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:04:41am

re: #28 Decatur Deb

Relicta:

timesrepublican.com

demo-mo.com

Heh, thanks.

30 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:04:49am

re: #22 CuriousLurker

Interesting. I didn’t know that.

Pretty accurate. Reading Twain talking about newspaper editors is pretty interesting and entertaining.

But it was also a general period when print medium was more widespread and under local control. A town above a certain size would have multiple papers which could then have their partisan editorial split and between the two you could sort of tweak out what was factual and what was spin.

Post-WW2 control has centralized, most cities are down to a single paper (whose owner probably also controls one or more of the local TV stations at this point), and news reporting is more heavily controlled in its biases. Plus the fact that the news department is no longer quasi-independent from the marketing, sales, and entertainment sections of networks.

31 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:07:14am

re: #26 erik_t

last I heard, Inman produces content, crudely drawn comics that attempt to portray his version of the truth in things. He’s defended himself against an interview hatchet job done by Buzzfeed and FunnyJunk which had somehow believed that they had authorization to link and publish Inman’s own content without his consent.

He makes money off of his own stuff, not sure how that makes him a grifter.

32 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:07:49am

BBL, fur reel.

33 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:08:33am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

I think I just read the article in question and …I guess I’m failing to see where the no-talent grifter part came in.

Mostly it read like a internet opinion shit-throwing festival.

Of course, the article also took potshots at XKCD, which took its credibility down to negative numbers.

34 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:08:40am

re: #25 Mattand

Huh. Hadn’t heard that. I’m a little skeptical, because from what I’ve read, Gawker isn’t exactly a paragon of truth and decorum.

Heh. Yeah I know that, it was a poo fight between Gawker & Inman, and Gawker won, just because they managed to point out that Inman was getting just a little too over the top with his SENDMONEYSENDMONEYSENDMONEYSENDMONEY!!!11!!!.

35 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:09:49am

Still not at all clear on how publishing one’s own content and then asking for funding for it can be perceived as ‘grift’.

36 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:10:29am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

37 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:11:30am

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

well he did perform some prodigious fundraising for the Tesla Museum, which is apparently going to happen, long overdue too from what i’ve read about the man (Tesla)

38 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:11:39am

re: #35 erik_t

Still not at all clear on how publishing one’s own content and then asking for funding for it can be perceived as ‘grift’.

SEND MONEY FOR THE TESLA MUSEUM!!!11!!!

39 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:11:45am

I’m not a varmint kind of person, but this guy is kinda cute.

40 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:11:56am
41 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:15:01am

re: #37 piratedan

well he did perform some prodigious fundraising for the Tesla Museum, which is apparently going to happen, long overdue too from what i’ve read about the man (Tesla)

Is there an actual collection? Who is the corporate sponsor, Elon Musk?

Crowdfunding is not going to provide a collection, you have to have somebody like Henry Ford who was able to assemble an actual Edison collection.

42 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:15:12am

Does Inman have an undisclosed financial mistake in a proposed/forthcoming Tesla museum? This is the only possible way I can imagine his dealings as being underhanded, which is sort of the defining characteristic of “grift”.

43 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:15:21am

re: #36 lawhawk

Wow. That link froze up Firefox big time.

44 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:15:42am

re: #38 Vicious Babushka

he made an impassioned plea for a childhood hero and backed it up with his own money and the use of his own website to build a museum for a forgotten and often overlooked historically significant scientific pioneer and Gawker has a pissy fit about that?

45 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:15:52am

Disclosure: Freedom of the Press Foundation is fund raising for Truth-Out.

46 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:16:56am

re: #34 Vicious Babushka

Heh. Yeah I know that, it was a poo fight between Gawker & Inman, and Gawker won, just because they managed to point out that Inman was getting just a little too over the top with his SENDMONEYSENDMONEYSENDMONEYSENDMONEY!!!11!!!.

I’m guessing this is the Gawker article in question.

Sorry, I’m not seeing the grifting angle. As someone who tries to peddle cartoons/humorous art for a living, I’m having a hard time getting angry at another cartoonist for making a living doing this stuff.

To be honest, the whole Gawker piece reads like the author started the article, and then halfway through realized he had nothing.

47 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:17:11am

re: #30 Feline Fearless Leader

Pretty accurate. Reading Twain talking about newspaper editors is pretty interesting and entertaining.

But it was also a general period when print medium was more widespread and under local control. A town above a certain size would have multiple papers which could then have their partisan editorial split and between the two you could sort of tweak out what was factual and what was spin.

Post-WW2 control has centralized, most cities are down to a single paper (whose owner probably also controls one or more of the local TV stations at this point), and news reporting is more heavily controlled in its biases. Plus the fact that the news department is no longer quasi-independent from the marketing, sales, and entertainment sections of networks.

Thanks for the additional background.

I guess it shouldn’t really surprise me. The book I was talking about yesterday mentions Phildelphia’s Quaker roots and discusses how the newspapers there used to rag on Atlantic City every summer for being such a den of iniquity (even though it never could have gotten off the ground or met with its great success in the first place without working class Philly’s patronage).

IIRC, there was even one newspaper that some rich guy started up with the specific intent of going on an anti-AC crusade. O_o

48 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:17:40am

re: #44 piratedan

he made an impassioned plea for a childhood hero and backed it up with his own money and the use of his own website to build a museum for a forgotten and often overlooked historically significant scientific pioneer and Gawker has a pissy fit about that?

Gawker took him to task for complaining about how poor and destitute he was, when he actually wasn’t.

As for the proposed Tesla Museum, where is the collection?

49 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:18:54am

re: #43 Feline Fearless Leader

Apologies if that was the case. It is to The Atlantic’s coverage of outrage over in France and Germany when Greenwald spewed on about how the US spies on them (as though France, Germany and the rest of the world isn’t busy trying to spy on the US - allies and foes alike).

50 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:19:46am

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

theoatmeal.com

Tesla was a geek’s geek and the site of his old laboratory was available for purchase….. hence the drive (ala kickstarter) to secure the site and build a museum.

edit: my bad, the fundraising site was indiegogo

51 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:20:05am

re: #46 Mattand

To be honest, the whole Gawker piece reads like the author started the article, and then halfway through realized he had nothing.

The entire Gawker network makes the Guardian look like an absolute paragon of journalistic integrity, and that is not hyperbole. I have no idea why we’re even wasting our precious electrons on their bloviation.

52 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:20:49am

re: #33 klys

Hey, good to have you back. Loved the photo of the wild cat—very cool.

53 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:21:04am

re: #51 erik_t

The entire Gawker network makes the Guardian look like an absolute paragon of journalistic integrity, and that is not hyperbole. I have no idea why we’re even wasting our precious electrons on their bloviation.

Gawker is not and has never been journalism and they have never pretended to be journalism.

54 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:21:41am

*headdesk*

Conference calls are obnoxious. That is all.

55 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:21:42am

re: #51 erik_t

The entire Gawker network makes the Guardian look like an absolute paragon of journalistic integrity, and that is not hyperbole. I have no idea why we’re even wasting our precious electrons on their bloviation.

[Chinatown mode]

Forget it, Erik; it’s the internet.

[/Chinatown mode]

56 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:21:48am

re: #52 CuriousLurker

Hey, good to have you back. Loved the photo of the wild cat—very cool.

It is so good to be home. Three weeks on the road (we did 4000 miles, and I drove 90% of it because he’s having foot issues that driving exacerbated) is a LONG time.

Plus they started installation of the AC this morning.

57 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:22:26am

I would love to read a good, professional psychological analysis of Glenn Greenwald. Maybe someone here is a mental health professional who would like to take a crack at that.

58 SpaceJesus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:22:36am

Gonna be a hearing today at 3pm in Albuquerque in District Court on whether the county clerk in ABQ can issue same-sex marriage licenses legally.

abcnews.go.com


I’m gonna be there in the gallery.

59 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:22:39am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

Gawker is not and has never been journalism and they have never pretended to be journalism.

LOL, at least they’re standing by that model with the Inman article!

60 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:23:31am

re: #56 klys

It is so good to be home. Three weeks on the road (we did 4000 miles, and I drove 90% of it because he’s having foot issues that driving exacerbated) is a LONG time.

Plus they started installation of the AC this morning.

Wow, that IS a lot of driving. Congrats on the AC!

61 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:23:40am
62 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:24:24am

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

yeah, so what if Inman has money? So does Bill Gates? All he did was help prime the pump to help a campaign to buy some property and get a museum started and used his own site to lobby for it and was passionate about what Tesla actually invented and lamented his place in history as a somewhat forgotten man.

Have no idea on why Gawker is apparently obsessed with Inman (based on my google fu), but it’s a free country I guess.

63 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:24:34am

re: #57 Lawrence Schmerel

I would love to read a good, professional psychological analysis of Glenn Greenwald. Maybe someone here is a mental health professional who would like to take a crack at that.

I can pictue Glenn jumping on Oprah’s couch going on a rant about psychiatry and various other things.

Greenwald doesn’t use the word glib, that is somewhat suprising to me.

64 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:24:50am

No conflict of interest?

65 CuriousLurker  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:25:32am

Uh-oh, client calling. BBL

66 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:25:52am

re: #64 Gus

nah, one is served by GG political activist and the other by GG Journalist, two completely different people //

67 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:27:07am

re: #58 SpaceJesus

Gonna be a hearing today at 3pm in Albuquerque in District Court on whether the county clerk in ABQ can issue same-sex marriage licenses legally.

abcnews.go.com

I’m gonna be there in the gallery.

From the tail end of that article:

A group of Republican legislators is planning to file a lawsuit to stop Ellins.

Ellins, however, says, “I think the train has pulled out of the station.”

Maybe a group of Republican legislators can jump in front of that train. You know, for the good of New Mexico.

68 A Mom Anon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:27:23am

re: #45 Gus

Sigh. The hell with the professional left. It’s interesting that more than a couple of these asshats “used to be republicans” or they hide behind the Libertarian label, when in fact their ideals and rhetoric don’t differ all that much from the GOP. And yes, I know our esteemed host used to be a republican, but Charles has never once, to my knowledge lied about who he is or was. If you had told me 5 yrs ago I’d be comfortable posting at LGF I would have laughed at you. Now this is the only place I bother with. A large part of that is that Charles doesn’t take shit from idiots and the rest is that he’s not a liar.

I used to be active at another site and had to leave when I found out one of the front pagers is actually allowed to troll the comments under different identities to stir up shit. I go there now and then just to see what’s up, but they lost their minds over this NSA stuff and that’s it for me. Why bother? I can get a headache with no help.

69 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:27:27am

re: #61 Gus

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Ellsberg is the co-founder of that organization and he is Greenwald’s trump card of justice that makes everything just perfect.

70 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:28:13am

re: #69 b.d.

Ellsberg is the co-founder of that organization and he is Greenwald’s trump card of justice that makes everything perfect..

Exactly.

71 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:28:42am

This is a funny Tweet.

72 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:30:42am

re: #68 A Mom Anon

Sigh. The hell with the professional left. .

Ditto. I am a refugee of the GOS myself:

Care to fill us in?:

I used to be active at another site and had to leave when I found out one of the front pagers is actually allowed to troll the comments under different identities to stir up shit.

We won’t tell.

73 Jack Burton  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:31:20am

re: #71 Gus

This is a funny Tweet.

[Embedded content]

“I’m sorry, but the UN must be firm with you. Stop with the sniper fire, or else.”

“Or Else what?”

“Or else we will be very angry with you… and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.”

74 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:31:58am

re: #69 b.d.

Ellsberg is the co-founder of that organization and he is Greenwald’s trump card of justice that makes everything just perfect.

Like I said the other day, Ellsberg was never cleared or acquitted of the charges against him. The prosecution had to drop the charges because of the rampant corruption that was also responsible for the Watergate break-in. To borrow a quote, “Guilty as sin, free as a bird.”

75 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:32:02am

re: #15 b.d.

For once, Glenn doesn’t think that it’s all about him.

I can’t wait for the Jesse Ventura/Glenn Greenwal interview.

Ugh. I can.

One of the final straws for me with Raw Story was a piece they ran when Ventura’s Tinfoil Hat Conspiracy of the Week syndicated show debuted.

IIRC, the author of the article called Jesse’s 9/11 truther episode “an important story”. Maybe he was trying to get a job with Infowars.

76 SpaceJesus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:32:46am

re: #67 wrenchwench

Yup.

Judge Malott is gonna hear the case, he is a Dem.

77 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:32:55am

re: #68 A Mom Anon

Aw come on! Name names!

78 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:33:12am

Dear colleague,

Trying to get group participation through a contest isn’t helpful to people in a different time zone who can’t actively participate. Instead it becomes annoying.

That is all.

Me

79 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:33:29am

re: #77 Mattand

Aw come on! Name names!

Or at least initials!

80 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:34:18am

re: #79 b.d.

Or at least initials!

Post it in the alien language that was created for Futurama.

81 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:34:27am

re: #49 lawhawk

Apologies if that was the case. It is to The Atlantic’s coverage of outrage over in France and Germany when Greenwald spewed on about how the US spies on them (as though France, Germany and the rest of the world isn’t busy trying to spy on the US - allies and foes alike).

Not your fault. Older version of Firefox on an older laptop running through a proxy server. I’ve seen it act squirrel-y with other sites.

82 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:35:16am

re: #67 wrenchwench

In 30 years the RWNJ trolls on twitter will be lecturing us about how it was the Teabag Party that fought for civil rights gay rights from the beginning.

83 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:36:21am

re: #80 Mattand

Post it in the alien language that was created for Futurama.

Or put it in GG’s unbreakable encrypted code, we’ll have the names by dinner.

84 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:37:08am

re: #73 Jack Burton

“I’m sorry, but the UN must be firm with you. Stop with the sniper fire, or else.”

“Or Else what?”

“Or else we will be very angry with you… and we will write you a letter, telling you how angry we are.”

Pale blue drones will fly over and drop pointed strong letters on them.
/

85 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:37:21am

And those who WHAT Bryan?

86 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:37:28am

re: #61 Gus

Ssshhh. It’s all for the good of fighting the Evil State. //

87 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:38:12am

re: #82 Bulworth

In 30 years the RWNJ trolls on twitter will be lecturing us about how it was the Teabag Party that fought for civil rights gay rights from the beginning.

I think the most depressing thought that gives rise to is twitter 30 years from now. Like AOL + mass personality dysfunction.

88 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:39:08am

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

And those who WHAT Bryan?

[Embedded content]

“Who don’t believe in fairy tales” was probably what he was going for.

89 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:39:09am

I fell like I haven’t slept in days. I must have because I seem to have lost large blocks of the last two days.

I blame the weather.

90 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:39:25am
91 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:40:13am

Has Bryan weighed in on The Artist Formerly Known As Hannah Montana yet?

92 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:40:15am

re: #85 Vicious Babushka

And those who WHAT Bryan?

[Embedded content]

I was taught to LOVE G-d.

93 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:40:20am
94 piratedan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:40:40am

re: #90 Lidane

Masturbation? well that’s covered under history, see the Walker years….

95 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:41:13am

re: #90 Lidane

[Embedded content]

And it’s not that they don’t think the kids should know, it’s that they are so squeamish they don’t think they’d live thru the embarrassment of being asked.

96 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:41:15am
97 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:41:28am

re: #87 wrenchwench

Yeah, I was reading the other day about Steve Ballmer’s pending resignation at Microsoft. It was then I realized I hadn’t thought much about Microsoft in quite a while. I’m old enough to remember when Microsoft was bigger than G-d, fighting off an anti-trust lawsuit, etc. The article basically noted how Microsoft got left behind by the smart phone revolution and iPad and tablet development. Funny how things can change so rapidly.

98 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:41:51am

re: #86 Bulworth

Ssshhh. It’s all for the good of fighting the Evil State. //

So basically Greenwald, Poitras, et al, Truthout, Wikileaks, Freedom of the Press Foundation and Mother Jones are all associates of a sort. Venn diagram.

99 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:43:33am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

WHY?

100 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:43:40am

re: #97 Bulworth

Yeah, I was reading the other day about Steve Ballmer’s pending resignation at Microsoft. It was then I realized I hadn’t thought much about Microsoft in quite a while. I’m old enough to remember when Microsoft was bigger than G-d, fighting off an anti-trust lawsuit, etc. The article basically noted how Microsoft got left behind by the smart phone revolution and iPad and tablet development. Funny how things can change so rapidly.

But Windows 8 will fix all that… (snicker)

101 A Mom Anon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:45:43am

re: #98 Gus

I’m kinda bummed about Mother Jones being a part of that mess. At one point they were a good go to source outside the mainstream.

Money and egos fuck up everything it seems.

102 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:45:46am
103 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:46:07am

There was a really good episode of Rosanne regarding the subject of masterbation. The son started locking the bathroom door and the daughters made jokes about it. The dad had to have a talk with the son and the actor (John Goodman?) did a great job of showing total freak-out over the subject.

He said something like: “It’s something everyone does, but NO BODY talks about.”

104 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:46:37am

re: #98 Gus

TheBigPharaoh may have to get on that after he completes his latest project - to diagram all the relationships in the ME worth knowing about.

105 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:46:48am

re: #90 Lidane

[Embedded content]

The Puritans called, they want their school curriculum back.

106 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:47:22am

re: #101 A Mom Anon

Has MJ gone full metal moonbat on the NSA story?

107 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:47:42am

Please proceed:

108 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:48:18am

re: #106 Bulworth

Has MJ gone full metal moonbat on the NSA story?

Totally.

109 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:05am

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

[Embedded content]

For the love of God Jullian.

110 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:15am

re: #106 Bulworth

Has MJ gone full metal moonbat on the NSA story?

Here and there. MoJo is the money behind Freedom of the Press Foundation.

111 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:28am

I knew it was just a matter of time before Lyndon LaRouche showed up in this mess.

112 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:29am

BTW, It’s National Dog Day.

All Day.

113 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:30am

re: #106 Bulworth

Has MJ gone full metal moonbat on the NSA story?

Sadly yes.

114 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:49:55am

re: #107 Lidane

Please proceed:

[Embedded content]

Man. This is what as known as the chickens coming home to roost. And we all know how sanitary chicken coops are.

115 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:50:21am
116 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:50:41am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I knew it was just a matter of time before Lyndon LaRouche showed up in this mess.

Is Lyndon LaRouche even still alive? I remember seeing him run for POTUS back in the 80’s and he was old then.

117 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:50:59am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

I knew it was just a matter of time before Lyndon LaRouche showed up in this mess.

Is LaRouche even still alive?

119 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:51:28am

re: #107 Lidane

Please proceed:

[Embedded content]

This is what 40 votes to repeal Obamacare gets you, John. Especially after SCOTUS ruled and left you fuckheads without a pot to piss in.

120 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:51:54am

re: #116 Lidane

Is Lyndon LaRouche even still alive? I remember seeing him run for POTUS back in the 80’s and he was old then.

We usually post the same stuff at the same time. Are you like my doppelganger or something? That is just so weird.

121 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:51:56am

re: #116 Lidane

Is Lyndon LaRouche even still alive? I remember seeing him run for POTUS back in the 80’s and he was old then.

Yep, he’s still alive.

122 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:51:57am

re: #117 Vicious Babushka

LaRouche can never die.

123 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:52:10am

re: #116 Lidane

Is Lyndon LaRouche even still alive? I remember seeing him run for POTUS back in the 80’s and he was old then.

Apparently so. Seems all that hate has kept him well-preserved.

124 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:52:21am

re: #122 Bulworth

LaRouche can never die.

There can be only One!

125 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:52:56am

re: #122 Bulworth

LaRouche can never die.

LaRoach //

126 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:53:02am

Is he the one who came up with the weirdness that the Queen of England is a Lizard Person?

127 SpaceJesus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:53:19am

Freep comment of the lunch hour so far:

To: rightwingextremist1776

Trust me when I tell you that little old white ladies in Mississippi do NOT vote democrat.

You’d have to live here to understand that completely.

They know why Detroit is broken.

33 posted on Monday, August 26, 2013 12:19:07 PM by Black Agnes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

hint hint, wink wink

128 A Mom Anon  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:53:36am

re: #106 Bulworth

I don’t think they’ve lost their shit to the degree that other places have. I admit that I’ve not spent much time reading anything in depth lately because of time. I have a lot going on personally, time is just too short at the moment for digging to deep. Ask Gus,lol.

129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:53:42am

re: #122 Bulworth

LaRouche can never die.

I was just thinking that. Right now, they are scouting for some poor guy to assume the role when the current guy dies.

U know, like the Dalai Lama.

130 makeitstop  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:53:46am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

Is he the one who came up with the weirdness that the Queen of England is a Lizard Person?

Wasn’t that that Ickes dude?

131 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:54:04am

re: #104 lawhawk

TheBigPharaoh may have to get on that after he completes his latest project - to diagram all the relationships in the ME worth knowing about.

Palmerston is also remembered for his light-hearted approach to government. He is once said to have claimed of a particularly intractable problem relating to Schleswig-Holstein, that only three people had ever understood the problem: one was Prince Albert, who was dead; the second was a German professor, who had gone insane; and the third was himself, who had forgotten it.

I think this applies in spades to the Middle East.

132 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:56:17am
133 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:56:23am

re: #130 makeitstop

Wasn’t that that Ickes dude?

I get my whackjobs mixed up.

134 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:56:26am

re: #126 Vicious Babushka

Is he the one who came up with the weirdness that the Queen of England is a Lizard Person?

No, that’s a world class loon known as David Icke. And, yeah, the proper way to pronounce it is “Icky”.

135 Targetpractice  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:56:31am

LaRouche is one of those guys who, if he didn’t exist, we’d have to invent him.

136 blueraven  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:57:14am

John Kerry speaking now on Syria

“What we saw in Syria is a moral obscenity”

137 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:57:26am

re: #135 Targetpractice

LaRouche is one of those guys who, if he didn’t exist, we’d have to invent him.

I’d like to think the world isn’t that horrible of a place …

138 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:57:29am
139 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:57:32am

re: #120 Vicious Babushka

We usually post the same stuff at the same time. Are you like my doppelganger or something? That is just so weird.

Heh. No idea.

140 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:58:04am

Russia has veto power in the UN security council.

141 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:58:27am

re: #136 blueraven

John Kerry speaking now on Syria

“What we saw in Syria is a moral obscenity”

I’m tired of hearing the word Moral.

142 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:58:28am

re: #139 Lidane

Heh. No idea.

What’s your favorite pie?

143 Jack Burton  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 11:58:36am

re: #135 Targetpractice

LaRouche is one of those guys who, if he didn’t exist, we’d have to invent him.

Not really. We have the Pauls and Kucinich.

144 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:00:20pm

re: #140 Gus

Russia has veto power in the UN security council.

yup

145 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:02:01pm

re: #143 Jack Burton

Not really. We have the Pauls and Kucinich.

I haven’t even heard the name Kucinich since he accepted that job at FoxNews. Has he converted all those people over there to the truth yet like the DudeBros told me he would?

146 blueraven  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:02:02pm

re: #140 Gus

Russia has veto power in the UN security council.

I don’t think anyone believes we will have UN agreement to intervene. If we do it will be with NATO and Arab League countries.

147 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:02:46pm
In addition to the member states, there are two non-member permanent observer states: the Holy See and the State of Palestine.[44]

The Holy See holds sovereignty over the state of Vatican City and maintains diplomatic relations with 180 other states. It has been an observer state since 6 April 1964,[45] and gained all the rights of full membership except voting on 1 July 2004.[46]

I still don’t get this. How much do you think the Vatican paid or what did they threaten to get this status?

148 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:03:19pm

re: #144 FemNaziBitch

yup

149 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:03:21pm
150 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:03:45pm

re: #90 Lidane

Stroke ‘em if you got ‘em.

151 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:03:53pm
152 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:04:04pm

re: #142 Vicious Babushka

What’s your favorite pie?

Strawberry, followed closely by blueberry. Apple is a solid third.

153 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:04:27pm

re: #152 Lidane

Strawberry, followed closely by blueberry. Apple is a solid third.

CHOCOLATE!!!!!

or Key Lime

154 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:05:18pm

re: #146 blueraven

I don’t think anyone believes we will have UN agreement to intervene. If we do it will be with NATO and Arab League countries.

Arab League won’t get involved. They support Assad.

155 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:05:30pm
156 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:05:31pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

Hard stuff? Mad Dog 20/20 hard, Boone’s hard, or are we talking Fleischman’s vodka hard?

157 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:05:33pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Ron Paul is a gateway pol.

//

158 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:06:11pm
159 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:06:41pm
160 darthstar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:07:00pm
161 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:07:31pm

re: #156 lawhawk

Hard stuff? Mad Dog 20/20 hard, Boone’s hard, or are we talking Fleischman’s vodka hard?

Night Train.

162 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:08:29pm

re: #152 Lidane

Strawberry, followed closely by blueberry. Apple is a solid third.

Blueberry, Apple and Cherry.

163 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:08:34pm

re: #158 lawhawk

A view of the Rim Fire from Crane Flat helibase in Yosemite from the Yosemite webcam network.

That’s what trees look like when they’re up in the air.

164 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:09:11pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

That’s what trees look like when they’re up in the air.

I know it’s serious bad stuff but this cracked me up so hard.

165 Bear  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:10:28pm

re: #153 FemNaziBitch

Big plus on chocolate.

166 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:10:45pm

re: #164 klys

I know it’s serious bad stuff but this cracked me up so hard.

We had ash falling here in June. Somebody commented about that being trees falling on us. The idea stuck.

167 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:13:58pm

Miley Cyrus needs help.

168 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:14:03pm
169 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:15:56pm
170 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:17:20pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

Bird’s eye view from last week:

Youtube Video

171 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:17:45pm

re: #160 darthstar

Is he switching news with porn, or what?

172 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:17:53pm

re: #147 FemNaziBitch

I still don’t get this. How much do you think the Vatican paid or what did they threaten to get this status?

Or possibly just practical recognition that the Vatican was influential in the world?

173 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:18:23pm

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

Miley Cyrus needs help.

proof that working for disney causes mental issues.

174 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:19:49pm

re: #173 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

proof that working for disney being surrounded by enablers causes mental issues.

FTFY. It’s not Disney that’s the issue. It’s a case of a girl who got famous young trying to break type and being surrounded by people who can’t or won’t tell her no or that her ideas are terrible.

175 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:20:25pm

re: #172 Feline Fearless Leader

Or possibly just practical recognition that the Vatican was influential in the world?

I think it gives undue attention and influence to a single religion. I trust Israel to vote accordance with reality than I do the Pope. Is it any wonder the Islamists want their own state?

176 blueraven  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:21:31pm

re: #154 Gus

Arab League won’t get involved. They support Assad.

Not so sure about that

Arab League support for arming Syrian rebels ‘logical’

177 danarchy  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:21:44pm

re: #175 FemNaziBitch

I think it gives undue attention and influence to a single religion. I trust Israel to vote accordance with reality than I do the Pope. Is it any wonder the Islamists want their own state?

Good thing the Vatican is nonvoting member then…

178 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:23:41pm

re: #176 blueraven

I’m going to repeat what I said on a page.

re: #5 ProTARDISLiberal

I’m going with option 2. There needs to be a response, but on the other hand, the FSA is poisoned by fanatics. Do #2 as a first step, then think about how to go from there. Slowly, and with diligence.

Although, who were the 3 people in favor of full spectrum attack? I want to hear their logic.

re: #6 ProTARDISLiberal

I would however use drone on Al-Nusra and their cronies. If we attack Assad’s side, we should also cripple the theocratic portion of the rebels. Evolution in action.

re: #10 ProTARDISLiberal

You see the guys in the red box?

We attack them while we attack Assad. While hurting Assad, we need to also cripple or destroy the violent radicals.

179 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:27:32pm

Why is this even being reported, ESPN or otherwise?

today.com

It’s a massive reach of rumors involving dead Mafia figures and a sporting event from forty years ago. It’s of no interest or use other than the supposed listener getting paid and some ammo from those still smarting from a man losing a tennis match to a woman.

180 Slap  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:29:05pm

re: #151 Charles Johnson

True dat. To date, I believe he’s the only man to run for POTUS from jail. Quite a distinction, that. Plus, he is a MAJOR grifter. A real piece of work fecality in action. (Yes, I made it up.)

Back when LaDouche was running against GHWB, he had billboards up along several Northern VA commute routes. Since it was just after the “Read my lips — no new taxes” speech, the billboard featured Douche’s depraved rictus, pointing a finger at the camera, with the phrase “Mr Bush — Read My Finger”.

I SO wanted to stage a midnight raid and replace “read” with “sniff”. (“Pull” would have been my second choice….) Still, it made it less painful to look upon the billboard.

181 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:29:40pm

re: #170 lawhawk

Bird’s eye view from last week:

[Embedded content]

That was spectacular footage. Except for still shots from big fires, I’ve never seen anything like it. Thanks!

182 EPR-radar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:29:49pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

Like I said the other day, Ellsberg was never cleared or acquitted of the charges against him. The prosecution had to drop the charges because of the rampant corruption that was also responsible for the Watergate break-in. To borrow a quote, “Guilty as sin, free as a bird.”

Ellsberg getting off scot-free with respect to leaking the Pentagon Papers has never bothered me at all. Frankly, that’s the kind of stuff that should be leaked.

183 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:30:20pm

re: #178 ProTARDISLiberal

Evolution in action.

That’s abuse of the term.

184 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:31:19pm

re: #170 lawhawk

Bird’s eye view from last week:

[Embedded content]

Wow, you can really see how unbelievably intense the flames are in that.

185 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:35:38pm

re: #183 wrenchwench

Wrong wording. What I mean is, by attacking those rebels who are radical and needlessly violent, those who are more moderate will have more room to breathe, and will get more supplies, nudging things in a good direction.

186 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:37:18pm

re: #185 ProTARDISLiberal

Wrong wording. What I mean is, by attacking those rebels who are radical and needlessly violent, those who are more moderate will have more room to breathe, and will get more supplies, nudging things in a good direction.

When it comes to writing on violence, I’d recommend re-reading and editing several times, then Preview, then delete.

/semi

187 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:39:29pm

re: #186 wrenchwench

I did use the wrong word there. Not sure the term to use.

Un-Natural Selection, I guess.

188 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:17:01pm

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

BTW, It’s National Dog Day.

All Day.

Shouldn’t National Dog Day be, like, 7 days long?

189 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:18:00pm

re: #188 Decatur Deb

Shouldn’t National Dog Day be, like, a week long?

No, because then it would cut into National Cat Year.

190 AntonSirius  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:28:27pm

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I haven’t read The Oatmeal since Gawker exposed him as a no-talent grifter.

This is a ridiculous thing to say about someone whose comics get clicked and linked as much as the Oatmeal’s stuff does.

Carlos Mencia earned his “no-talent hack” label by actually stealing jokes from other comics. Unless Inman is stealing material, calling him a “no-talent grifter” just sounds like sour grapes from someone who thinks they’re funnier than he is. The Gawker didn’t “expose” anything other than a difference in opinion on what’s funny.

If you don’t like his comics, fine, but you’re in the minority. The masses have spoken, VB.

191 Sherlock Hound  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 3:57:23pm

re: #72 b.d.


Care to fill us in?:
We won’t tell.

I think the site’s name starts with “B”, and I still read it, though with the Snowden hysteria, LGF and Wonkette are the only political blogs I can stand for the moment.

192 Sherlock Hound  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 4:02:53pm

re: #108 Vicious Babushka

I am not really surprised. Once, MJ wrote an expose about Big Nutrition (supplements), the “all-natural” industry that many of its readers consume themselves. You know, because Big Pharma is evil and against all natural things.

The comments all accused MJ of being in Big Pharma’s pocket.

I’ve always thought less of MJ—which has had some excellent reporting over the years—because of their slant to “natural” remedies. I shouted at them in a survey: SCIENCE DOES NOT HAVE AN ASTERISK NEXT TO IT! If MJ is going to LWNJ-all-natural-science-is-evil land, they’d better shake hands with the Birchers (fluoride-conspiracists) and anti-GW nuts.

193 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 4:22:17pm

re: #192 Sherlock Hound

Welcome, hatchling.

194 Laertes  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 10:47:29pm

Let me see if I’ve got this: The British held Miranda for nine hours. For eight of those hours, they refused to let him speak to a lawyer of his choosing, instead insisting that if he wanted to talk to an attorney, it had to be one that they chose for him? After eight hours of this, they relent, and he finally gets to talk to his lawyer.

Have I got that about right?

Dude was, for all practical purposes, “denied a lawyer.” That this denial eventually ended doesn’t change the fact that it happened. Kidnapping is still kidnapping, even if you eventually release your victim. And insisting that someone’s right to a lawyer is contingent upon them accepting any lawyer you care to choose for them is pretty skeevy, and wouldn’t pass your bullshit filters if you weren’t already dug in to this ever-more-desperate position that you’ve staked out.

195 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:24:50am

re: #194 Laertes

And if you weren’t trying so hard to make excuses for the constant distortion, you’d just admit that you’re being played. Now it’s not supposed to matter that Greenwald has been simply lying?

That’s a pathetic rationalization.


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Lies About Black America Are ‘Central’ to Gun Ownership: A Reporter on What We Get Wrong About Gun Violence Lies that the GOP and Donald Trump promote all day long. “If you look at the neighborhoods where [gun violence] is most clustered,” Beckett said, it’s located in areas with high levels of poverty, low levels of education, and ...
Unshaken Defiance
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St. Vincent Performs ‘Los Ageless’ One of Stephen's very favorite singer-songwriters collaborates with three pairs of boots to perform a song off her new album "Masseduction". Subscribe To "The Late Show" Channel HERE: bit.lyFor more content from "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert", click ...
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi Trailer (Official) Watch the new trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi and see it in theaters December 15. Get your tickets now: fandango.com Visit Star Wars at starwars.comSubscribe to Star Wars on YouTube at youtube.comLike Star Wars on Facebook at ...
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Brazil Branches of US-Based Church Target of Numerous Probes Church Based human trafficking and forced labor -- it's just religious freedom in action.../// When workers made a mistake, such as cutting a frame too short, she says they were screamed at and sometimes even hit to expunge the ...
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Missouri Woman Claims Religious Rights Violated by Abortion Law Those religious freedom laws conservatives are pressing through where ever they can might give fundamentalist xtians more grief than they bargained for. The law compels women to wait 72 hours between their initial visit and the procedure, view an ...
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Lawmakers Call for ‘Stealthing’ to Be Classified as Rape U.S. Reps. Carolyn Maloney (D-NY) and Ro Khanna (D-CA) announced on Wednesday that they would push lawmakers to have "stealthing," or nonconsensual condom removal, classified as rape. In a letter sent to the House Judiciary Committee, Maloney and Khanna ...
Birth Control Works
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Should Animal Abusers Be Registered Like Sex Offenders? It is important to remember that those who abuse animals also tend to abuse children. One of the objectives of the criminal justice system is to protect the innocent and discourage would-be perpetrators from harming them. Whether it does ...
Birth Control Works
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