What Obamacare Supporters Can Learn From The Gay Rights Movement

As Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell sit in the audience, Kentucky’s governor speaks for the uninsured who suffer in silence.
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As the first openly gay person ever elected to public office in California, Harvey Milk helped change America with a simple message to his community: Come out.

“Every gay person must come out,” Milk said on Gay Freedom Day in 1978. “As difficult as it is, you must tell your immediate family. You must tell your relatives. You must tell your friends if indeed they are your friends. You must tell the people you work with. You must tell the people in the stores you shop in. Once they realize that we are indeed their children, that we are indeed everywhere, every myth, every lie, every innuendo will be destroyed once and for all. And once you do, you will feel so much better”

Thursday in Kentucky, the state’s Democratic governor Steve Beshear offered a different version of the same argument at the Kentucky Farm Bureau Country Ham Breakfast in support of Obamacare, as Senators Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and Rand Paul (R-KY) sat in the audience.

“You’re friends with them,” he said, referring to the state’s 640,000 uninsured residents. “You’re probably related to them. Some may be your sons and daughters. You go to church with them. Shop with them. Help them harvest their fields. Sit in the stands with them as you watch your kids play football or basketball or ride a horse in competition. Heck, you may even be one of them.”

He went on to describe the plight of praying you don’t get sick or having to choose between food and medicine.

Of course, the burdens and prejudices members of the LGBT community have to endure are in no way the same as being uninsured. But as a purely political strategy, Beshear is showing health care supporters how to make an argument in support of reform, given that 85 percent of Americans have insurance and just don’t want to lose it.

One of the major difficulties in selling Obamacare — besides the constant GOP efforts to sabotage the law — is that its most direct benefits go to the 15 percent of America that doesn’t have insurance. Most of these people are the working poor who earn too much for Medicaid but not enough to afford coverage. They are, unfortunately for supporters of the law, generally not reliable voters. And they certainly don’t donate much to political campaigns.

Beshear is speaking to the 85 percent. He’s not just giving them a dose of reality by telling them that they could easily end up in the pool of the uninsured, which they could. He’s also saying, do we want these people to live a life of constant worry, living without coverage even as America spends more per capita on health care than any country in the industrial world?

America’s uninsured are a minority and they are mostly under-represented in American politics. But they make a powerful statement when they let their friends and family know that they lack basic health insurance.

If America’s insured, who also benefit from the new protections in the health care law, understand that the uninsured could be their friends, sons, daughters or members of their church, it will be much easier to make the case for a law designed to start fixing that problem.

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1 aagcobb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 6:50:39am

Meanwhile, the GOP is going to make itself even more toxic when it damages the American economy this Fall by playing brinksmanship with the debt limit in its last, desperate stand against Obamacare.

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:19:48pm
3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:23:14pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

after the full Rollout Obama needs to get up there and give a speech and specifically mention each state’s program/implementation by name.

4 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:23:51pm

Great Post!

5 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:25:54pm

For wingnuts, somebody admitting they can’t afford health insurance is the same thing as admitting that they’re unemployed and on food stamps.

UR A LAZY MOOCHER!!!!1111 GET A JRRB!!!1!!1

6 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:25:58pm

re: #3 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

after the full Rollout Obama needs to get up there and give a speech and specifically mention each state’s program/implementation by name.

Open enrollment starts here in Kentucky on October 1. We’ve already got a hotline open as a clearinghouse for information.

7 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:26:46pm

Have a great day all!

8 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:33:29pm

This really means that the Antiquities Act should be strenuously enforced and expanded!

9 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:33:53pm
10 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:35:56pm

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

Also, too: PROLIFE

///

11 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:36:41pm
12 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:36:48pm

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

Repeal Antiquities Act? So they can drill drill drill?

It’s the Western state lament. Complain about the Antiquities Act and limitations on exploiting federal lands all while ranchers get cut rate grazing rights, drilling is permitted, and tourism produces more long lasting economic effects for the localities than drilling does.

Stockman would love to go to town on places like Yosemite and Yellowstone or Big Bend.

13 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:37:17pm

re: #10 Bulworth

Also, too: PROLIFE

///

Yeah because denying pre-natal care, and labor and delivery, is so pro-life.

/spit

14 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:37:57pm

re: #12 lawhawk

Repeal Antiquities Act? So they can drill drill drill?

It’s the Western state lament. Complain about the Antiquities Act and limitations on exploiting federal lands all while ranchers get cut rate grazing rights, drilling is permitted, and tourism produces more long lasting economic effects for the localities than drilling does.

Stockman would love to go to town on places like Yosemite and Yellowstone or Big Bend.

I figured that whatever Stockman is against, must be a good thing.

15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:39:34pm

re: #12 lawhawk

Repeal Antiquities Act? So they can drill drill drill?

It’s the Western state lament. Complain about the Antiquities Act and limitations on exploiting federal lands all while ranchers get cut rate grazing rights, drilling is permitted, and tourism produces more long lasting economic effects for the localities than drilling does.

Stockman would love to go to town on places like Yosemite and Yellowstone or Big Bend.

From what I can tell, it’s the ranchers being denied free grazing on federal lands.

16 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:39:55pm

Godzilla sited in Connecticut…

17 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:40:59pm

re: #16 NJDhockeyfan

Godzilla sited in Connecticut…

[Embedded content]

No chicken dinners for us tonight…

18 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:41:24pm

re: #12 lawhawk

Repeal Antiquities Act? So they can drill drill drill?

It’s the Western state lament. Complain about the Antiquities Act and limitations on exploiting federal lands all while ranchers get cut rate grazing rights, drilling is permitted, and tourism produces more long lasting economic effects for the localities than drilling does.

Stockman would love to go to town on places like Yosemite and Yellowstone or Big Bend.

One reason Devils Postpile got protection is because mining interests wanted to blast the formation in order to dam the San Joaquin River in the early 20th century.

en.wikipedia.org

19 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:42:34pm

re: #16 NJDhockeyfan

He’s an important question.

Why is it in Connecticut?

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:42:36pm

Mohr troubles for Yertle:

A conservative political action committee, The Madison Project, will begin airing a radio ad in Kentucky today going after McConnell, something they call the “first of many attempts to unveil the truth about Mitch McConnell’s failed leadership in Washington.”

Conservative PAC Hits Mitch McConnell From the Right

21 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:42:52pm

re: #15 Backwoods_Sleuth

Again, not surprised. Ranchers have gotten sweetheart deals over the years for the right to graze. Being asked to pay more? Yeah, they’ll complain.

Still, it’s coming at a time when you’ve got major drought ongoing, water rights are a huge issue across much of the country, and ranchers are culling herds because of all the water issues.

22 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:43:00pm

re: #16 NJDhockeyfan

Godzilla sited in Connecticut…

[Embedded content]

From there:

Monitor lizards can be as big as some alligators, reaching lengths of 6 to 7 feet. They are not native to Connecticut and are illegal in the state.

Must be why we get so many trolls from Connecticut.

23 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:43:03pm

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

The Antiquities Act — so radical and abusive that it was drafted by a Republican legislator and signed by that avowed socialist, Teddy Roosevelt.

WTF.

24 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:43:55pm

re: #16 NJDhockeyfan

Godzilla sited in Connecticut…

[Embedded content]

Godzilla problem poses problems for Obama administration, Republicans embrace Godzilla.

25 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:44:06pm

Speaking of LGBT rights:

26 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:44:10pm

re: #23 Lidane

The Antiquities Act — so radical and abusive that it was drafted by a Republican legislator and signed by that avowed socialist, Teddy Roosevelt.

WTF.

I am so Tweeting that.

27 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:44:20pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Again, not surprised. Ranchers have gotten sweetheart deals over the years for the right to graze. Being asked to pay more? Yeah, they’ll complain.

Still, it’s coming at a time when you’ve got major drought ongoing, water rights are a huge issue across much of the country, and ranchers are culling herds because of all the water issues.

Well, those ranchers will have to fight with the frackers for that water…

28 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:44:50pm

re: #19 ProTARDISLiberal

He’s an important question.

Why is it in Connecticut?

He already ate Tokyo.

29 erik_t  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:45:52pm

re: #25 Lidane

Speaking of LGBT rights:

[Embedded content]

There needs to be a word less neutral than “public policy” for such poisonous and disgusting government repression.

30 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:05pm

re: #25 Lidane

Freedom. Liberty. Less Government. /

31 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:09pm
32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:16pm

re: #23 Lidane

The Antiquities Act — so radical and abusive that it was drafted by a Republican legislator and signed by that avowed socialist, Teddy Roosevelt.

WTF.

well…it’s just a bunch of rocks and those ancient petroglyphs are just old graffiti…
//

33 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:21pm

re: #19 ProTARDISLiberal

Wikipedia’s summary on the distribution of these animals.

The various species of Varanus cover a vast area, occurring through Africa, the Indian subcontinent from Pakistan, India and Sri Lanka to China, down Southeast Asia to Indonesia, the Philippines, New Guinea, Australia and islands of the Indian Ocean, and South China Sea. There is also a large concentration of monitor lizards in Tioman Island in the Malaysian state of Pahang.

You will notice that they are found in the Tropical-Subtropical regions of the Old World.

Connecticut is in a Temperate Maritime region of the New World.

No where near each other.

34 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:53pm

re: #20 Backwoods_Sleuth

Please procede…..

35 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:46:57pm

My brain hurts.

36 EdDantes  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:47:04pm

re: #28 NJDhockeyfan

Oh, no! There goes Tokyo!

37 Bear  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:47:05pm

re: #28 NJDhockeyfan

Balanced diet?

38 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:47:23pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

too bad the Founders weren’t Christian….oh wait

39 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:47:40pm

…no slavery at all in…

Narnia!

40 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:48:38pm

re: #33 ProTARDISLiberal

Wikipedia’s summary on the distribution of these animals.

You will notice that they are found in the Tropical-Subtropical regions of the Old World.

Connecticut is in a Temperate Maritime region of the New World.

No where near each other.

global warming haz arrived in Connecticut…

41 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:51:26pm

re: #2 Backwoods_Sleuth

This really happened at the KY State Fair last week…

That goes to what I was saying before the 2012 election - if Romney had won, he’d repeal Obamacare. Just the name. Put his back on it, and declare it a success. After all, it was all modeled on the GOP individual mandate and MassCare proposals. Obama co-opted those and made them central to his health care agenda in the hopes of getting some GOPers to support it; they went with pure venomous opposition rather than any kind of cooperation.

The GOP is fear-mongering on the name alone. They want people to fear this program, because they know that there are portions of it that are already successful - the preexisting conditions provision and the coverage for dependents to age 26.

It doesn’t make the PPACA perfect by any stretch, but it expands coverage to millions of people who lacked the ability to get insurance at a reasonable price.

Kentucky is showing that if you provide PPACA programs (without identifying it as such, the opposition drops away or people don’t even realize that they’re buying into PPACA programs).

42 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:52:41pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

So the Founding Fathers who were slaveowners weren’t Christians? Or weren’t his kind of Christian?

43 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:54:35pm

re: #42 lawhawk

The slave-owning Founders were Christians but slavery was forced on them by Muslim Atheists. //

44 brennant  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:55:10pm

re: #43 Bulworth

Don’t forget teh gheys.

45 EPR-radar  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:55:16pm

re: #29 erik_t

There needs to be a word less neutral than “public policy” for such poisonous and disgusting government repression.

How about ‘theocratic fascism’?

46 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:55:20pm

re: #42 lawhawk

So the Founding Fathers who were slaveowners weren’t Christians? Or weren’t his kind of Christian?

There were a whole bunch of slaveowners in the South who were exactly Bryan’s type of Christian, they even justified it by saying they brought this bunch of heathens over from Africa and introduced them to Christ!

47 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:55:31pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

Except for the part where slavery is mentioned, and even sanctioned, in the Bible.

48 blueraven  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:57:35pm

re: #33 ProTARDISLiberal

Wikipedia’s summary on the distribution of these animals.

You will notice that they are found in the Tropical-Subtropical regions of the Old World.

Connecticut is in a Temperate Maritime region of the New World.

No where near each other.

a pet, escaped or let loose…most likely

49 Gus  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 12:58:44pm
50 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:00:14pm

re: #41 lawhawk

The contractor for my new house being built has no insurance (premiums were beyond his income). His wife got very sick a couple of months ago and needed all sorts of high dollar tests and they’re looking at a $20,000 medical bill they have no way of being able to pay. He had no idea that “Obamacare” will help his family (they have kids). I told him about the kynect program, gave him what information and resources I had available at the time. He told me a couple of weeks ago that he’ll be signing up October 1.
I know too many people here who are working themselves to death who can’t afford health insurance or even basic healthcare…they wait until they are literally on their deathbeds, end up in the ER, and faced with massive bills as a result.
One at a time, I’m spreading the word about kynect and every single person I’ve spoken with have been very receptive to the program.

51 klys  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:00:26pm

re: #49 Gus

Cat pictures?

I approve.

52 Carlos Danger  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:00:43pm
53 Bulworth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:01:20pm

re: #52 Carlos Danger

The end is very nigh

54 b.d.  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:04:23pm

re: #53 Bulworth

The end is very nigh

The Gohpocalypse is coming.

55 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:09:41pm

re: #50 Backwoods_Sleuth

The contractor for my new house being built has no insurance (premiums were beyond his income). His wife got very sick a couple of months ago and needed all sorts of high dollar tests and they’re looking at a $20,000 medical bill they have no way of being able to pay. He had no idea that “Obamacare” will help his family (they have kids). I told him about the kynect program, gave him what information and resources I had available at the time. He told me a couple of weeks ago that he’ll be signing up October 1.
I know too many people here who are working themselves to death who can’t afford health insurance or even basic healthcare…they wait until they are literally on their deathbeds, end up in the ER, and faced with massive bills as a result.
One at a time, I’m spreading the word about kynect and every single person I’ve spoken with have been very receptive to the program.

Do you tell them it’s part of the ACA/Obamacare, or is there a real danger that some people would go “I’d sooner let my kids get sick than take part in that”?

Not trying to be snarky here. I just know how difficult it is to reach people on a divisive issue, even if you have the facts on your side.

56 EdDantes  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:11:42pm

I am pleased that there are some BOC fans here.

57 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:12:50pm
58 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:13:32pm

re: #56 EdDantes

I am pleased that there are some BOC fans here.

I saw them in a tiny bar in Connecticut once.

59 Carlos Danger  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:14:02pm

Northern Ireland teenager in bog snorkelling record

Bog snorkelling- an actual thing

60 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:14:33pm

re: #55 Mattand

Do you tell them it’s part of the ACA/Obamacare, or is there a real danger that some people would go “I’d sooner let my kids get sick than take part in that”?

Not trying to be snarky here. I just know how difficult it is to reach people on a divisive issue, even if you have the facts on your side.

Sometimes I mention that it’s part of ACA, but it’s just simpler to call it kynect. They’ll remember “kynect” and, since that’s how it’s labeled here, I just thought it best to keep confusion to a minimum.
And I’m not being snarky either but, with a lot of folks here, simple explanations are best.

61 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:15:58pm

re: #59 Carlos Danger

Northern Ireland teenager in bog snorkelling record

Bog snorkelling- an actual thing

best hope none of them end up as a modern day bog person.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:17:39pm

Photo from the National Weather Service:

Rim Fire at Night

63 EdDantes  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:18:28pm

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

You are blessed. I had the opportunity several times in the seventies but could not make the dates. My loss.

64 GeneJockey  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:25:21pm

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

My brain hurts.

If Christianity had been followed, there would have no slavery at all…

So America ISN’T a Christian Nation founded on Christian Principles?

65 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:26:58pm

re: #63 EdDantes

You are blessed. I had the opportunity several times in the seventies but could not make the dates. My loss.

I missed them in HS at the War Memorial in Johnstown Pa but sitting at a table on the stage with them playing a few feet away was so much better. One of Alice Cooper’s guitarists also played with them that night.

66 Mattand  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:27:20pm

re: #60 Backwoods_Sleuth

Sometimes I mention that it’s part of ACA, but it’s just simpler to call it kynect. They’ll remember “kynect” and, since that’s how it’s labeled here, I just thought it best to keep confusion to a minimum.
And I’m not being snarky either but, with a lot of folks here, simple explanations are best.

As a lifelong Northener, I can assure you that’s not a regional thing. :)

I’m just glad to hear the program is working and people are getting access to health care.

67 aagcobb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:30:01pm

re: #66 Mattand

As a lifelong Northener, I can assure you that’s not a regional thing. :)

I’m just glad to hear the program is working and people are getting access to health care.

Obamacare will have some bugs to work out, like anything else, but is going to be a huge success.

68 GeneJockey  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:32:00pm

re: #48 blueraven

a pet, escaped or let loose…most likely

We used to go to the East Bay Vivarium in Oakland, and see the baby Monitor lizards. Really cute, about a foot long, active, inquisitive, always on the go, unlike a lot of reptiles who seem to spend a lot of time basking, or just plain lying around doing nothing.

You could see how someone might get one, and gradually get tired of it as it got larger, less cute and kinda scary, and let it go like the Burmese Pythons in Florida.

69 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:32:01pm

re: #67 aagcobb

Obamacare will have some bugs to work out, like anything else, but is going to be a huge success.

Unless we get really lucky, and it’s so cumbersome we just evolve it into Single Payer.

70 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:35:24pm

Can I vent for a second?

I’ve had a prospective client stringing me along on a $120k proposal for months. E-mails and calls largely ignored aside from the occasional “We still haven’t made a decision” message. Today I get a snail mail letter dated from last week telling me they’re going with a different company.

My contact couldn’t call to tell me this himself? I couldn’t get an email or anything? I have to wait around for a snail mail letter? WTF does that anymore? RUDE.

71 Decatur Deb  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:36:46pm

re: #70 Lidane

Can I vent for a second?

I’ve had a prospective client stringing me along on a $120k proposal for months. E-mails and calls largely ignored aside from the occasional “We still haven’t made a decision” message. Today I get a snail mail letter dated from last week telling me they’re going with a different company.

My contact couldn’t call to tell me this himself? I couldn’t get an email or anything? I have to wait around for a snail mail letter? WTF does that anymore? RUDE.

Bummer about the work, but you just got saved from an epic struggle with jerkoffs.

72 Lidane  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 1:39:44pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Bummer about the work, but you just got saved from an epic struggle with jerkoffs.

True. I’m inclined to think it’s for the best. Still, that pisses me off. He took the coward’s way out, sending a snail letter dated last week. A simple email or phone call a week ago would’ve had the same result.

GAH. That irks me. Good luck to whoever has to deal with them now.

73 BongCrodny  Mon, Aug 26, 2013 2:01:17pm

re: #56 EdDantes

I am pleased that there are some BOC fans here.

re: #58 NJDhockeyfan

I saw them in a tiny bar in Connecticut once.

The story, as it has long been handed down from generation to generation (or about 40 or so years ago) was that Blue Oyster Cult was supposed to play in Lewiston, Maine waaaay back in the early 70’s.

The bands fans at the time were very hard-rock oriented and saw no reason to be polite to the opening act, a band that had just released its first album, a kind of mellow, folk-rock oriented album.

Yep, that’s right. In Lewiston, Maine, circa 1973, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band got booed off the stage.


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