Robertson: Gay People Deliberately Spread HIV/AIDS by Cutting People With Special Rings

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Robertson: Gay People Deliberately Spread HIV/AIDS by Cutting People With Special Rings

Today on the 700 Club, Pat Robertson told co-host Terry Meeuwsen that gay men in cities like San Francisco attempt to spread HIV/AIDS to others by cutting them with a special ring when shaking hands. However, one could not hear Robertson make the remarks on the episode his Christian Broadcasting Network posted online, as the company once again appears to have edited Robertson’s comments after they aired.

While responding to a question from a woman who wondered if it was wrong for the church not to inform her that a man she was driving to worship services is “dying of AIDS,” Robertson admitted that he “used to think it was transmitted by saliva and other things, now they say it may be sexual contact.”

“What to say if you’re driving an elderly man whose got AIDS? Don’t have sex with them,” Robertson said, “unless there’s a cut or some bodily fluid transmission, I think you’re not going to catch it.”

But Robertson didn’t stop there.

“There are laws now, I think the homosexual community has put these draconian laws on the books that prohibit people from discussing this particular affliction, you can tell somebody you had a heart attack, you can tell them they’ve got high blood pressure, but you can’t tell anybody you’ve got AIDS,” he continued.

Despite Meeuwsen’s best attempts to steer the conversation away from Robertson’s anti-gay paranoia, Robertson insisted that gay people use special rings to transmit the virus.

“You know what they do in San Francisco, some in the gay community there they want to get people so if they got the stuff they’ll have a ring, you shake hands, and the ring’s got a little thing where you cut your finger,” Robertson said. “Really. It’s that kind of vicious stuff, which would be the equivalent of murder.”

- See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Tricksy Gheysssss! They has the Precioussssss!!!1

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365 comments
1 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:54:24am

Wow, this is the kind of bullshit that Europeans made up about Jews back in the middle ages. I wouldn’t be surprised if this story was being mainstreamed in Russia right now.

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:58:10am

re: #1 Carlos Danger

Wow, this is the kind of bullshit that Europeans made up about Jews back in the middle ages. I wouldn’t be surprised if this story was being mainstreamed in Russia right now.

The Medicis and the Borgias had poison rings. A lot of the Medieval nobility had various kinds of tools for poisoning their rivals.

3 Randall Gross  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:59:32am

Pat Robertson needs to be designated as a hate group leader if he’s not already.

5 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 11:09:17am

Pat Robertson has a special ring that allows him to project his crazed fantasies onto others.

6 DesertDenizen  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 11:30:57am

Re #5

Would that be anything like a Green Lantern ring, but powered by derp rather than courage?

7 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:05:37pm

So gay people are ninjas?

8 EPR-radar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:08:44pm

re: #1 Carlos Danger

Wow, this is the kind of bullshit that Europeans made up about Jews back in the middle ages. I wouldn’t be surprised if this story was being mainstreamed in Russia right now.

This x100. Robertson, and most of the so-con far right, is actively trying to generate a new ‘blood libel’ to use against GLBT people that gets traction in the population at large.

If they succeed, the pogroms will follow in due course. Haters gotta hate.

9 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:10:10pm
10 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:11:46pm

The crazy train must be approaching superluminal velocity by now. After that, the whole RWNJ universe will collapse into an unobservable singularity of derp.

11 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:12:40pm

re: #2 Vicious Babushka

The Medicis and the Borgias had poison rings. A lot of the Medieval nobility had various kinds of tools for poisoning their rivals.

Both those families were Catholic. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s resurrecting anti-Catholic tropes because his brand of fundamentalism is steeped in it.

12 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:13:30pm

re: #6 DesertDenizen

Re #5

Would that be anything like a Green Lantern ring, but powered by derp rather than courage?

Wasn’t that the Yellow one?

13 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:14:05pm

While it looks like there really are “poison rings” with a seekrit compartment in them (they appear to be popular with the Goth crowd) it would be kind of difficult to make a ring with a seekrit stabby thingy because the stabby thingy would usually just stab whoever is wearing it.

14 kerFuFFler  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:14:22pm

So I guess conservatives want an excuse to not shake hands with gay people that they think will keep them from seeming too bigoted to touch gays.

’ It’s not because they are merely diseased; they are actively trying to murder people by shaking their hands….’

No bigotry there….

15 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:14:31pm

I understand that they also leave messages on bathroom mirrors that say “Welcome to the wonderful world of AIDS.”

16 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:17:43pm

Damn, between this and Gohmert, I feel like curling up into a ball.

The stupidity—burning brightly.

17 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:18:35pm

Nutter being nuts. SS/DD. Same derangement, different topic.

What more can be said about this guy? Except that he manages to stay relevant because he’s got himself a tv network to spread his nonsense, and a whole lot of people buy into his ignorance.

That’s the really scary part.

18 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:19:04pm
19 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:19:29pm

Not surprising, as many of the same bigots who will believe this no doubt also continue to believe that the “Patient Zero” of AIDS in North America was a gay Canadian flight attendant who engaged in thousands of sexual trysts strictly for the purpose of spreading the disease.

20 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:19:48pm
“There are laws now, I think the homosexual community has put these draconian laws on the books that prohibit people from discussing this particular affliction, you can tell somebody you had a heart attack, you can tell them they’ve got high blood pressure, but you can’t tell anybody you’ve got AIDS,” he continued.

Yeah, this makes sense. //

21 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:19:50pm

re: #18 Carlos Danger

Rosa Klebb, is that you?

22 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:21:01pm
23 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:21:25pm

Hey, it looks like the dolphins are anti-vaxers. I always thought better of them than that. Being intelligent and all.
:(

nbcnews.com

24 EPR-radar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:21:30pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Nutter being nuts. SS/DD. Same derangement, different topic.

What more can be said about this guy? Except that he manages to stay relevant because he’s got himself a tv network to spread his nonsense, and a whole lot of people buy into his ignorance.

That’s the really scary part.

It is also scary that these evil people have real political power. Soon the GOP hopefuls for 2016 will be in Iowa to kiss the ring of vanderPlaats and other Iowa so-con haters.

25 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:22:30pm

re: #18 Carlos Danger

Image: tumblr_mbypvmie3s1qd0knjo1_1280.jpg

Do those Russian shoes come with an umbrella?

26 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:22:37pm

re: #18 Carlos Danger

Image: tumblr_mbypvmie3s1qd0knjo1_1280.jpg

What do you expect for fashionable Russian shoe design? Must have heard about spike heels and then gotten it wrong from there.
// ;)

27 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:23:37pm

Pat joined the Marines in and served in Korea, as “division liquor officer”. Perhaps not coincidentally, his father was an influential US senator.
True story.

28 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:24:51pm

This is the sort of bigoted BS that kept the US from seriously addressing the AIDS epidemic in the 80s, because the “Moral Majority” wouldn’t hear of the guy they’d helped get elected weighing in on a “gay disease.”

29 makeitstop  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:25:08pm

OT, but - Is there any particular reason that RWNJs should be freaking about Jane Fonda? I’m seeing a bunch of ‘Hanoi Jane’ crap on my wall today.

30 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:25:45pm

Good. Sentence him and and be done with it.

31 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:26:53pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT, but - Is there any particular reason that RWNJs should be freaking about Jane Fonda? I’m seeing a bunch of ‘Hanoi Jane’ crap on my wall today.

“The Butler” stars Jane Fonda as Nancy Reagan.

32 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:28:12pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT, but - Is there any particular reason that RWNJs should be freaking about Jane Fonda? I’m seeing a bunch of ‘Hanoi Jane’ crap on my wall today.

She was in the movie “The Butler”

33 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:28:12pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

“The Butler” stars Jane Fonda as Nancy Reagan.

OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!!11

34 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:29:17pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

Not surprising, as many of the same bigots who will believe this no doubt also continue to believe that the “Patient Zero” of AIDS in North America was a gay Canadian flight attendant who engaged in thousands of sexual trysts strictly for the purpose of spreading the disease.

Wasn’t “Patient Zero” some kid from the Midwest? I read about it a long time ago….he died before I was born in 1969. They didn’t know it was AIDS until a couple of decades later, if I remember right.

35 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:29:47pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

“The Butler” stars Jane Fonda as Nancy Reagan.

They should have gotten a respectable conservative actress to play Nancy Reagan, like Victoria Jackson.

36 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:30:36pm

re: #29 makeitstop

She played Nancy Reagan in the new movie The Butler. She’s also on HBO’s The Newsroom. So I guess she had the nerve to be an actress or something and let them carry on an old grudge.

God these people are fucking idiots.

37 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:32:06pm

Wait, Bryan…isn’t Obama the first gay President?

38 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:33:05pm

re: #37 Vicious Babushka

I love how he disabled comments on his video.

39 leftynyc  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:36:22pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT, but - Is there any particular reason that RWNJs should be freaking about Jane Fonda? I’m seeing a bunch of ‘Hanoi Jane’ crap on my wall today.

She’s playing Nancy Reagan in that movie The Butler. It has them spitting nails. Especially because the movie is so successful.

40 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:38:59pm

Bank of America intern dies after 3 all-nighters at the office.

usatoday.com

“The widespread culture of long working hours and all-nighters for banking interns has been criticized after the death of a 21-year-old intern last week, with recruiters and human resources groups calling for changes to guidelines and working practices.

“Moritz Erhardt collapsed at his London home in Bethnal Green on Thursday, after reportedly working until 6 a.m. for three days in a row at Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s (BofA) investment banking division. The cause of death is unknown and some newspapers reported that he suffered from epilepsy.”

I always gave a little overtime, but this is just fucking ridiculous. And this was supposed to be this young man’s “dream job”?

No wonder I never got ahead.

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:39:10pm

Marking the occasion of the arrival of my newest great-grandson, here is your afternoon moment of cuteness (yes, there is a cat included…)

Youtube Video

42 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:39:37pm

WTF Prudence!
You don’t give a shit about the homeless or the elderly or the mentally ill. You just want to stop foreign aid (and give it to the corporations I suppose).

43 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:39:51pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT, but - Is there any particular reason that RWNJs should be freaking about Jane Fonda? I’m seeing a bunch of ‘Hanoi Jane’ crap on my wall today.

I had one, unrepentant, right wing loon on my FB feed. I cut him loose right after the election and right before the Behghazi attack. Best thing I could have done. This guy took to every bullshit RWNJ “scandal” like catnip. Don’t miss the crazy at all.

44 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:40:33pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

WTF Prudence!
You don’t give a shit about the homeless or the elderly or the mentally ill. You just want to stop foreign aid (and give it to the corporations I suppose).

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We know what 1% you want to be in, Prud.

45 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:40:55pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

Marking the occasion of the arrival of my newest great-grandson, here is your afternoon moment of cuteness (yes, there is a cat included…)

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Congrats! Or should I say “Con-CATS”?

46 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:52:32pm

Tom Coburn: I’m a ‘man of science’ and the Earth is moving into a ‘mini-ice age’

In a speech to the Tulsa Regional Chamber of Commerce on Monday, Coburn said that the United States was not growing as fast as it could because “we’re not taking advantage of the wonderful natural resources that we have in our country, that we’re limiting our capability through over-regulation and interference in the private sector.”

Although the Chamber told Raw Story that they were only making Coburn’s opening remarks available on YouTube, Tulsa World published a few of the senator’s thoughts about climate change from the question and answer portion of the event.

“I am a global warming denier,” Coburn said. “I don’t deny that.”

The paper noted that Coburn also argued that the climate had always been changing.

“As a physician and a man of science, Coburn said he thinks the evidence points that the Earth is moving into a ‘mini-ice age,’” Tulsa World’s Wayne Greene reported.

47 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:54:04pm

Two More N.M. Counties Will Offer Marriage Licenses To Same-Sex Couples

Two more New Mexico counties will soon offer marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The county clerks for San Miguel County and Valencia County New Mexico each said they plan to offer licenses to same-sex couples, according to New Mexico ABC News affiliate KOAT-TV on Tuesday.

San Miguel County Clerk Melanie Rivera has ordered gender neutral licenses and can alter the current licenses to say “spouse” rather than “male applicant” and “female applicant.”

Valencia County Clerk Peggy Carabjal said she expects to have gender neutral licenses ready on Wednesday. Like Rivera, Carabajal said she’s willing to alter the current marriage licenses.

48 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:56:14pm

re: #46 Kragar

This, as the nation’s biggest aquifer is quickly getting tapped out because there hasn’t been a normal rainfall in a couple of years, and it’s reaching crisis proportions for much of the Western US. Oh, and let’s not forget the raging wildfires due to the drought conditions.

But Sen. Global Warming Denier thinks we’re about to enter a mini ice age? Who’s his shaman/guru telling him that claptrap? No one with a science degree - especially one with a climatology/meteorology background. That’s for sure.

49 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:56:50pm

re: #46 Kragar

Tom Coburn: I’m a ‘man of science’ and the Earth is moving into a ‘mini-ice age’

As a bike mechanic and a woman of science, I think Tom Coburn is moving into a ‘mini-senility’ age.

50 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:58:00pm

re: #46 Kragar

Tom Coburn: I’m a ‘man of science’ and the Earth is moving into a ‘mini-ice age’

And he’s going to continue denying until this happens…

Image: itsthem.jpg

51 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:58:15pm

No that is not what “slavery” is you doofus.

52 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:59:44pm

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

No that is not what “slavery” is you doofus.

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No, that’s working without pay, you miserable greedy pig. God these people are stupid.

53 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 12:59:53pm

re: #34 Dr Lizardo

Wasn’t “Patient Zero” some kid from the Midwest? I read about it a long time ago….he died before I was born in 1969. They didn’t know it was AIDS until a couple of decades later, if I remember right.

Yep, kid by the name of Robert Rayford, died in ‘69 but said he’d had symptoms as early as ‘66. First recorded case of the disease, even though the diagnosis itself wouldn’t be reach for 20 years.

54 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:01:01pm

re: #52 HappyWarrior

No, that’s working FOR OTHER PEOPLE, AGAINST YOUR WILL without pay, you miserable greedy pig. God these people are stupid.

55 piratedan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:01:36pm

re: #46 Kragar

my guess is that it’s been entirely too long since Senator Coburn has traveled west of the Mississippi

56 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:01:47pm

Pat Robertson is just one sick fuck. Tell me how you aren’t a bigot Pat and I’ll read to you shit that you’ve actually said numerous years. Is it any real shock that this guy’s father was a segregationist senator?

57 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:02:27pm

Popular Wingnut meme:
You keep using that word. It does not mean what you think it means.

58 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:03:32pm

N.Y. Times website down for second time this month

chicagotribune.com

59 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:06:17pm

Jesushchristonabicycle.

@USATODAY tweeted:

#BREAKING: Dow closes down 170 points, oil and gold surge on Syria jitters t.co

60 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:06:25pm

re: #57 Vicious Babushka

Popular Wingnut meme:
You keep using that word. It does not mean what you think it means.

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Morons. Yeah having your money spent directed on something you don’t like is slavery. By that standard, many of us on the left can argue that the war in Iraq was slavery by the Bush administration. FUcking imbeciles.

61 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:07:05pm

re: #37 Vicious Babushka

Gosh I wasn’t aware of this goal of ours…..

//

62 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:08:23pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Morons. Yeah having your money spent directed on something you don’t like is slavery. By that standard, many of us on the left can argue that the war in Iraq was slavery by the Bush administration. FUcking imbeciles.

I have no personal need for a backup engine for a fighter plane, so therefore I am a slave to the Federal Government.

63 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:08:29pm

re: #60 HappyWarrior

Morons. Yeah having your money spent directed on something you don’t like is slavery. By that standard, many of us on the left can argue that the war in Iraq was slavery by the Bush administration. FUcking imbeciles.

But at the same time, wingnuts have no problem paying workers less so that CEO’s can get MOAR.

64 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:09:06pm

re: #63 Vicious Babushka

But at the same time, wingnuts have no problem paying workers less so that CEO’s can get MOAR.

That’s because wingnuts are hypocritical clowns.

65 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:10:05pm

re: #62 Kragar

I have no personal need for a backup engine for a fighter plane, so therefore I am a slave to the Federal Government.

I don’t need farm subsidies. I’m such a slave.// Of course, the irony is if these idiots had been around in 1861, they would have defended slavery because states rights.

66 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:10:19pm

Sweet jeebus.

A 12-foot snake that has been living by the Burger King on Route 20 in Paterson has a new home following its capture by animal-control officers Tuesday morning. - See more at: northjersey.com

Animal control officers found this critter not far from where I live (and where I go shopping). It’s near the Passaic River, and it was probably dumped there by an owner who could no longer contend with its size, but …. damn…

67 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:11:23pm

re: #65 HappyWarrior

I don’t need farm subsidies. I’m such a slave.// Of course, the irony is if these idiots had been around in 1861, they would have defended slavery because states rights.

States which provided freedom to escaped slaves were hurting business owners in the South.
///

68 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:11:46pm
69 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:12:27pm

re: #64 HappyWarrior

That’s because wingnuts are hypocritical clowns.

They actually believe that totally bogus made-up bullshit that CEOs deserve to make 2000X the average worker. Because freemarketarglebarlederpderphurrhurr and also other countries do not put up with that shit.

70 AntonSirius  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:12:35pm

re: #23 Feline Fearless Leader

Morbillivirus belongs to a family of RNA viruses that cause rinderpest in cattle, distemper in canine species, and measles in humans. In dolphins, the virus suppresses the immune system, so researchers are seeing “animals that are very thin, animals that have a lot of other diseases and infections,” Rowles said.

It’s dolphin AIDS!! Gay peeple are having sex with dolphins!!!!!!1111!1!1!!

71 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:14:09pm

re: #59 Justanotherhuman

Jesushchristonabicycle.

@USATODAY tweeted:

#BREAKING: Dow closes down 170 points, oil and gold surge on Syria jitters t.co

Ugh.

72 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:15:35pm

WE’RE ALL TOTALLY IN A DUNGEON BUT U LIBTARDS DON’T REALIZE IT BECAUSE U GET FREE HEALTHCARE!!!11!!!

73 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:15:42pm

re: #66 lawhawk

DeCando theorized that the snake was let loose on the banks of the Passaic River by a pet-owner who no longer wanted to care for the animal.

Sometimes I really hate people. As$holes.

At least the snake was found by decent folk who wanted to save it rather than some assmunch with a gunz who wanted to shoot it.

74 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:16:42pm

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

They actually believe that totally bogus made-up bullshit that CEOs deserve to make 2000X the average worker. Because freemarketarglebarlederpderphurrhurr and also other countries do not put up with that shit.

I think they show themselves to be with neo-feudalists with their obsession with thinking that only the very wealthy create.

75 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:16:53pm

re: #73 Bulworth

Sometimes I really hate people. As$holes.

At least the snake was found by decent folk who wanted to save it rather than some assmunch with a gunz who wanted to shoot it.

Or wandered onto the shoulder of a highway to keep warm. Someone would have purposefully swerved over to run it down.

76 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:17:43pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

All in this together? What’s this hippy crap doing among true blue TCOT’s? We’re all rugged individualists individuals. //

77 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:18:04pm

you shake hands, and the ring’s got a little thing where you cut your finger

trying to remember what famous psychotic had a similar delusion…

78 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:18:35pm

re: #76 Bulworth

All in this together? What’s this hippy crap doing among true blue TCOT’s? We’re all rugged individualists individuals. //

A TRUE PATRIOT WOULD NEVER LET HIMSELF GET CHAINED UP IN A DUNGEON NEXT TO A LIBTARD BECAUSE HE HAZ GUNZ!!!111!!!!

79 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:18:52pm

Bradlee Dean: Gays Commit Half Of All Murders, Obama Is A ‘Homo’ And Maddow Is A ‘Shim’

After Dean said that homosexuality and abortion are the “last two stages that a country takes before God judges that country,” McMillan charged that “half of the murders in large cities were committed by homosexuals; thirty-three percent of child abuse cases were committed by homosexuals; half of the foster children molestations were done by homosexuals.”

McMillan explained, to Dean’s agreement, that gays are prone to criminality because “when a person’s mind has gone to that extent of committing an abominable act, it shows what else they are capable of.”

McMillan later recounted an interview with a gay reporter in which he charged that all people, including gays, are created equal, “but not when you make choices; if you break the law you’re no longer protected by the law.”

“God gives us strict orders to deal with people that commit such crimes in this life,” Dean said, “as a mercy to society.”

80 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:21:50pm

re: #79 Kragar

Bradlee Dean: Gays Commit Half Of All Murders, Obama Is A ‘Homo’ And Maddow Is A ‘Shim’

half of all murders? Hahahaha. You know this wouldn’t be so funny if Bradlee Dean and those like him weren’t basically pushing a blood libel against gays. I guess in that way it’s wrong to laugh but man they say some stupid shit.

81 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:22:15pm

re: #73 Bulworth

It was found by a construction crew putting in a new sewer line in the area. They called animal control, who wrangled it out and got it to a group that uses them in school demonstrations.

82 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:22:35pm

Next we’ll hear the responsibility of teh gay for Communism, Nazisim(already hear that one alot), Islamism, etc.

83 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:22:40pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

Sigh. The ACA isn’t fucking FREE. God these people are stupid as fuck. I wish it were paid for with a big pool of tax money, and I wish it were to some degree government run like the VA (which I know has it’s own issues, but that’s because these assholes and the people they elect keep under funding and breaking shit). But it’s not. It’s subsidized to some degree for people with moderate incomes and the insurance companies are still running the god damned show. Why is this so hard to understand?

84 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:23:13pm

re: #83 A Mom Anon

Sigh. The ACA isn’t fucking FREE. God these people are stupid as fuck. I wish it were paid for with a big pool of tax money, and I wish it were to some degree government run like the VA (which I know has it’s own issues, but that’s because these assholes and the people they elect keep under funding and breaking shit). But it’s not. It’s subsidized to some degree for people with moderate incomes and the insurance companies are still running the god damned show. Why is this so hard to understand?

Why is it so hard to understand? Because propaganda works.

85 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:23:52pm

re: #82 HappyWarrior

Next we’ll hear the responsibility of teh gay for Communism, Nazisim(already hear that one alot), Islamism, etc.

Gay Islamic Nazi Commie Atheists are the absolute worst.

86 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:24:14pm

re: #59 Justanotherhuman

Jesushchristonabicycle.

@USATODAY tweeted:

#BREAKING: Dow closes down 170 points, oil and gold surge on Syria jitters t.co

“Market reacts.” Yeah, because there hasn’t been a war going on in Syria for the past 2.5 years.

87 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:24:41pm

Is it just me or with more and more progress made daily on GLBT rights that the hatefulness, absurdity, and etc directed at gays by RWNJs seems to getting worse? I’d love for Obama if he ever got a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress push a national bill legalizing gay marriage. I know it would be risky politically but it would be the right thing to do just like ACA was.

88 kerFuFFler  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:24:55pm

re: #43 Mattand

“I had one, unrepentant, right wing loon on my FB feed. I cut him loose right after the election and right before the Behghazi attack. Best thing I could have done. This guy took to every bullshit RWNJ “scandal” like catnip. Don’t miss the crazy at all.”

One of my friends had a “libertarian” facebook friend who kept insisting that some of his posts were offensive and that he had better take them down. (The posts were just links to news stories the libertarian did not care for….)He did not seem to have any inkling that censoring his friend’s facebook posts was not exactly consistent with “libertarian” ideals. He finally threatened to sue at which point he was promptly unfriended. Seriously, how could this libertarian with a degree in mathematical logic think it made sense to sue someone over links to news stories?

89 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:26:13pm

re: #88 kerFuFFler

“I had one, unrepentant, right wing loon on my FB feed. I cut him loose right after the election and right before the Behghazi attack. Best thing I could have done. This guy took to every bullshit RWNJ “scandal” like catnip. Don’t miss the crazy at all.”

One of my friends had a “libertarian” facebook friend who kept insisting that some of his posts were offensive and that he had better take them down. (The posts were just links to news stories the libertarian did not care for….)He did not seem to have any inkling that censoring his friend’s facebook posts was not exactly consistent with “libertarian” ideals. He finally threatened to sue at which point he was promptly unfriended. Seriously, how could this libertarian with a degree in mathematical logic think it made sense to sue someone over links to news stories?

Because FREE-DUMB!

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:26:16pm

re: #75 Feline Fearless Leader

Or wandered onto the shoulder of a highway to keep warm. Someone would have purposefully swerved over to run it down.

I remember some study quite a while ago where the researchers put a rubber snake in the road and then counted how many people deliberately swerved to run over the snake.
It was a LOT of drivers…

91 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:26:26pm

Hmmmm…. Ukranian feminist group protesting arrests and claim that the police planted guns and explosives and other incriminating evidence.

Ukrainian topless feminist group Femen accused the police of planting explosives and a gun during a raid on their headquarters in Kiev headquarters on Tuesday in a bid to close their organization down.

The Femen group specializes in shock bare-breast appearances to dramatize women’s rights causes, mainly in the male-dominated hierarchies of Russia and its former Soviet allies.

Russia’s Vladimir Putin has particularly been a target for Femen’s protests since the prosecution of the Russian female punk group Pussy Riot last year.

A police statement in Kiev said a group of explosives experts were sent to Femen’s headquarters in central Kiev on Tuesday after an anonymous call. Objects resembling a World War Two pistol and grenade were found during a search, it said.

Officers at the scene said they had also found leaflets showing the profiles of Putin and Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill pictured in snipers’ cross-hairs.

Something about this doesn’t quite pass the smell test.

92 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:27:04pm

re: #80 HappyWarrior

Confirmed. FACT. //

93 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:27:54pm

re: #79 Kragar

Bradlee Dean: Gays Commit Half Of All Murders, Obama Is A ‘Homo’ And Maddow Is A ‘Shim’

Wow. Apparently all gay people have great ability to multitask and not sleep.

What with the murders, the orgies, the plague-spreading, the gay recruiting, the fabrications of outrageous pride parade costumes, and the assorted excrescences versus God-fearing normal people.

Or maybe there’s just like one really murderous gay person who’s really well organized. Like Batman, but with gay sex and murder.

94 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:27:56pm

re: #92 Bulworth

Confirmed. FACT. //

Seriously what a statistic pulled out of the asshole. Half of all murders? And then he calls the president a homo. I saw better arguments on the playground in sixth grade.

95 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:28:20pm

re: #79 Kragar

McMillan explained, to Dean’s agreement

Echo chamber of derp

96 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:28:36pm

re: #91 lawhawk

Hmmmm…. Ukranian feminist group protesting arrests and claim that the police planted guns and explosives and other incriminating evidence.

Something about this doesn’t quite pass the smell test.

So the Russians are planting evidence before they arrest dissidents?

They used to not even bother. PROGRESS!
///

97 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:28:57pm
98 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:29:18pm

Because moving cross country is totes the same u guyz!


*headdesk*

99 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:29:59pm

Market reacts

if the stock market was a person, its friends would be telling it to seriously consider therapy

100 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:30:20pm

re: #83 A Mom Anon

So the individual mandate to buy one’s own insurance if not otherwise covered is buying insurance for other people? Their derp isn’t making any sense.

101 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:30:26pm

re: #79 Kragar

Bradlee Dean: Gays Commit Half Of All Murders, Obama Is A ‘Homo’ And Maddow Is A ‘Shim’

ahhh…Michele Bachmann’s homophobic Christian musician friend. Oh, and apparently he’s still suing Rachel Maddow.

102 kerFuFFler  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:30:44pm

re: #83 A Mom Anon

“Sigh. The ACA isn’t fucking FREE.”

And then there are all the hateful idiots chanting, “Buy your own damn birth control!” as if the government was buying it for everybody.

103 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:31:14pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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By God, is the US government wants my data, they’ll have to get it the old-fashioned way…by paying companies for it.

104 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:31:37pm

re: #98 Lidane

Because moving cross country is totes the same u guyz!

[Embedded content]


*headdesk*

“I once worked in a produce market, so I know how a migrant worker who picks fruit for 12 hours a day feels.”

105 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:32:04pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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This is a good point. I wouldn’t call it play-acting but showing how hypocritical and stupid people can be which is even worse.

106 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:32:30pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

It’s just like the race thing. We’ve made tons of progress, but every time there’s a big milestone, like, oh electing a (shhhh, don’t tell anyone he’s…)black president, it drives the haters out of their freaking minds. They’re losing the fight and it pisses them off to no end. The Secret Service has seen a dramatic uptick in threats against this President, and it’s because a lot of stupid white people are really pissed off about it. And secretly scared to death that people of color will treat them as shitty as they have treated minorities. Not understanding of course that MOST people aren’t racist assholes who have better things to do.

Same goes for LGBT rights, it’s bothering the shit out of them that they are losing social control(like they ever really had it totally ever anyway) and the power structure is shifting, even a little. It’s going to get uglier until rights are established and people see the world didn’t explode in glitter and rainbows and hell.

107 erik_t  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:32:52pm

re: #98 Lidane

Because moving cross country is totes the same u guyz!

*headdesk*

So he’s saying we need to hurry up and build the dang wall around Arkansas?

Well…..

108 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:33:01pm

re: #103 The Ghost of a Flea

By God, is the US government wants my data, they’ll have to get it the old-fashioned way…by paying companies for it.

“I’m so made about the idea of the government knowing about me that I’m going to rant about it on Facebook for days at a time!”

109 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:33:47pm

re: #107 erik_t

So he’s saying we need to hurry up and build the dang wall around Arkansas?

Well…..

too late…the Clintons already migrated…
//

110 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:36:03pm

re: #106 A Mom Anon

It’s just like the race thing. We’ve made tons of progress, but every time there’s a big milestone, like, oh electing a (shhhh, don’t tell anyone he’s…)black president, it drives the haters out of their freaking minds. They’re losing the fight and it pisses them off to no end. The Secret Service has seen a dramatic uptick in threats against this President, and it’s because a lot of stupid white people are really pissed off about it. And secretly scared to death that people of color will treat them as shitty as they have treated minorities. Not understanding of course that MOST people aren’t racist assholes who have better things to do.

Same goes for LGBT rights, it’s bothering the shit out of them that they are losing social control(like they ever really had it totally ever anyway) and the power structure is shifting, even a little. It’s going to get uglier until rights are established and people see the world didn’t explode in glitter and rainbows and hell.

Said it better than I could. And yeah I think it is akin to race too and think you explain what’s happened and continues to do so perfectly. We have our first AA president but at the same time, the KKK has made a comeback and YouTube has to disable comments on a video with an interracial couple. I think most people in this country- liberal, moderate, conservative are pretty forward looking individuals but we’ve got a large voice on the right that doesn’t want any progress because as you put it so well they’re afraid that these changes mean they will lose any influence. As a straight white male, a gay couple being able to enjoy the same rights as I would with a woman not only doesn’t bother me, I welcome it. There’s no reason why gay couples shouldn’t have the same rights of me. None and if Bradlee Dean, Pat Robertson, etc think that’s tyranny, they should move to Russia with the rest of the bigots.

111 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:37:38pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

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These people are so melodramatic.

112 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:38:08pm

Russian police seize painting of Putin in women’s underwear

(Reuters) - Police seized a painting of Russia’s president and prime minister in women’s underwear from a gallery in St Petersburg, saying the satirical display had broken unspecified laws.

The officers also removed a picture of the head of the Russian Orthodox Church, his torso covered in tattoos, and two others poking fun at lawmakers who have backed legislation banning so-called gay propaganda, gallery staff said.

The police service said it had taken paintings from the “Museum of Power” gallery - based in two rooms of a flat - late on Monday after receiving reports they were illegal.

It gave no further detail but Russia does have a law against insulting authorities - an offence that carries a maximum one-year prison term.

113 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:39:16pm
114 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:39:38pm

re: #97 Charles Johnson

I just told a friend of mine this morning to shush about the NSA until she shuts down her Twitter and Facebook accounts, quits entering every contest she can sign up for and gets rid of the 11, yes, ELEVEN credit cards(most from various dept stores, like Kohl’s, Macy’s etc)she uses all the time, and the store discount club cards she has for all the area grocery stores and gas stations. Her cell phone’s gonna have to go too, and the GPS in her car. All those things provide more info to third parties than anything the NSA might be doing. Like they give a shit about the conversations we have about our dogs and when we’re going for walks. Please.

She’s been kinda quiet since then, lol.

115 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:39:57pm

re: #108 Kragar

“I’m so made about the idea of the government knowing about me that I’m going to rant about it on Facebook for days at a time!”

Today I had someone link to a Veteran’s Today article that claimed the police could shut down iPhones to keep you from filming them. They had no idea what Veteran’s Today was, and immediately pulled it down, but apparently the article is trending. [It was actually pretty freaky calling them out, because it was an old friend I hadn’t seen in awhile, and his politics (gun-toting libertarian with Ron Paul crush) and location (Colorado) maybe meant “turned racist.” It turns out he didn’t know, and deleted it while thanking me]

A no-citations piece on an openly racist, anti-Semitic website.

The older and more studied I get, the more I think that ideology is a secondary matter. Your stated philosophy is meaningless if you’re a rube. Hence the right-left convergence of derp.

116 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:41:42pm

Every bloated, over-budget, outdated military project out there, even if the Pentagon doesn’t want it? GIVE THEM ALL THE $$$$!

Poor and/or infirm elderly people who deserve a hot meal every day? SCREW YOU, WE HAVE WARS TO FUND.

117 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:43:13pm

re: #115 The Ghost of a Flea

But why you hates little bitty great grandchildrens?

Rating: 22
Total: 24
Plus: 23
A Mom Anon, Vicious Babushka (Alouette), andres, BongCrodny, Bubblehead II, Bulworth, erik_t, Gus (Gus 802), jaunte, Justanotherhuman, Kaessa (Kaessa), kerFuFFler, klys, lawhawk, leftynyc, Lidane, Ming, piratedan, Romantic Heretic, Stanley Sea (Stanley Sea), Targetpractice (Targetpractice Worst of Both Worlds), urbanmeemaw, wrenchwench
Minus: 1
The Ghost of a Flea

/

118 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:44:11pm

re: #116 Lidane

Every bloated, over-budget, outdated military project ou there, even if the Pentagon doesn’t want it? GIVE THEM ALL THE $$$$!

Poor and/or infirm elderly people who deserve a hot meal every day? SCREW YOU, WE HAVE WARS TO FUND.

[Embedded content]

Let them eat Bradleys Fighting Vehicles?

119 EPR-radar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:45:22pm

re: #116 Lidane

To hell with the so-called fiscal conservatives of the GOP. They couldn’t care less about the debt in the GW Bush years.

120 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:45:35pm

re: #117 wrenchwench

But why you hates little bitty great grandchildrens?

/

Shit.

Not a manifestation of some deeper subconscious truth. I swear.

121 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:45:40pm

re: #116 Lidane

Every bloated, over-budget, outdated military project ou there, even if the Pentagon doesn’t want it? GIVE THEM ALL THE $$$$!

Poor and/or infirm elderly people who deserve a hot meal every day? SCREW YOU, WE HAVE WARS TO FUND.

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It’s really amazing how the richest country in the world never seems to have the money to do anything useful.

122 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:46:31pm

Anybody see something … amusing about this message?

I’d like to tag along for the ride. Not sure if I can do the full 40 mile loop but will give it a shot. Would it be okay to bail out half way and turn around if needed?

123 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:46:53pm
124 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:47:24pm

re: #121 BongCrodny

It’s really amazing how the richest country in the world never seems to have the money to do anything useful.

Sure we do. We spend more than the next dozen countries COMBINED on our military, even if the Pentagon doesn’t want something. See? TOTALLY useful.

In the meantime, we can’t give NASA more than a half penny on the dollar and feeding poor eldery people is a total pipe dream, apparently.

125 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:47:30pm

re: #119 EPR-radar

To hell with the so-called fiscal conservatives of the GOP. They couldn’t care less about the debt in the GW Bush years.

Deficits don’t matter- Dick Cheney.

126 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:47:50pm

re: #120 The Ghost of a Flea

Shit.

Not a manifestation of some deeper subconscious truth. I swear.

It’s OK, I doubt that Backwoods_Sleuth caught you.

127 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:48:13pm

Anyone who believes the GOP is the fiscally conservative party is huffing glue.

128 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:48:14pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Anybody see something … amusing about this message?

Unclear on the concept. Or maybe some big hills in the second half of the loop?

129 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:48:24pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

LOL. Math, how does it work?

130 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:48:39pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

It’s OK, I doubt that Backwoods_Sleuth caught you.

But the NSA did.

131 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:49:47pm

re: #127 HappyWarrior

Anyone who believes the GOP is the fiscally conservative party is huffing glue.

Or they’re caught in the RWNJ disinformation bubble. Or both.

132 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:50:11pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

Unclear on the concept. Or maybe some big hills in the second half of the loop?

Big hills in both halves, actually, but at least the first half would be familiar. It is a newish off-road route.

That message went up a week ago and nobody said anything except ‘Sure! Fine!’

133 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:50:26pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember some study quite a while ago where the researchers put a rubber snake in the road and then counted how many people deliberately swerved to run over the snake.
It was a LOT of drivers…

Saw a pick-up ahead of my brother once swerve onto the shoulder to take out a 4-5’ long corn snake. My brother’s immediate remark was that he hoped the rats ate that guy’s crops.

Mix of ignorance, fear, and temporarily holding a live or death decision over a creature. All the Biblical anti-snake rhetoric certainly does not help.

134 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:50:58pm
135 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:51:34pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Anybody see something … amusing about this message?

I’m reminded of the old riddle, “How far can you walk into the forest?”

Halfway, because then you’re walking *out* of the forest.

136 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:51:52pm

vegan troll challenged me to tell him why it was ok to eat animals but not humans

so i ate him

137 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:52:53pm

re: #116 Lidane

Every bloated, over-budget, outdated military project ou there, even if the Pentagon doesn’t want it? GIVE THEM ALL THE $$$$!

Poor and/or infirm elderly people who deserve a hot meal every day? SCREW YOU, WE HAVE WARS TO FUND.

[Embedded content]

Last year I helped a neighbor and he brought me over 10 TV dinners from meals on wheels..I don’t want them but he insisted and I couldn’t say no.
They were the worst tasting food I have ever had in my life..We give that shit to our elders? Somebody needs to be fired for this fraud. In fact I’m getting pissed-off again recalling this incident. I wouldn’t feed my dog that shit. Is this the best we can do for the weakest among us?
/pissed off

138 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:53:08pm

re: #134 Gus

[Embedded content]

And things like that are why I have marketable job skills.

Anyone need a cyber security guy?

139 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:53:22pm

re: #123 Kragar

Please proceed….

140 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:53:39pm

re: #133 Feline Fearless Leader

Saw a pick-up ahead of my brother once swerve onto the shoulder to take out a 4-5’ long corn snake. My brother’s immediate remark was that he hoped the rats ate that guy’s crops.

Mix of ignorance, fear, and temporarily holding a live or death decision over a creature. All the Biblical anti-snake rhetoric certainly does not help.

Same things happens with bees. I just had a apiculture guy out at the farm to check out a wild hive that were swarming near my house, just to be safe. He was poleaxed that I didn’t immediately want instructions on how to kill them.

141 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:54:07pm

re: #136 dog philosopher

vegan troll challenged me to tell him why it was ok to eat animals but not humans

so i ate him

Prions.

142 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:55:02pm

re: #136 dog philosopher

vegan troll challenged me to tell him why it was ok to eat animals but not humans

so i ate him

Ask him back why he fucks humans but not animals.

143 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:56:07pm

re: #135 BongCrodny

I’m reminded of the old riddle, “How far can you walk into the forest?”

Halfway, because then you’re walking *out* of the forest.

And the smart aleck in the class raises his hand and says, “What if you walk real slow and the trees on the far end grow and make the forest longer in that direction, while they cut down the trees behind you?”

:)

144 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:57:06pm

re: #142 The Ghost of a Flea

Ask him back why he fucks humans but not animals.

MILK AND EGGS BITCH!

Youtube Video

145 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:57:21pm

re: #143 Feline Fearless Leader

And the smart aleck in the class raises his hand and says, “What if you walk real slow and the trees on the far end grow and make the forest longer in that direction, while they cut down the trees behind you?”

:)

There’s also some variables involving entmoots and Huorns.

146 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:57:40pm

re: #142 The Ghost of a Flea

Ask him back why he fucks humans but not animals.

an interesting question, but i’d classify the premise as ‘undetermined’

147 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:58:03pm

re: #145 The Ghost of a Flea

There’s also some variables involving entmoots and Huorns.

The Middle Earth version of Zeno’s Paradox?

148 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:59:02pm
149 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:59:10pm

re: #147 Feline Fearless Leader

The Middle Earth version of Zeno’s Paradox?

Q; If a tree falls in the woods and noone is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

A: Ents

150 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 1:59:21pm

re: #137 A Man for all Seasons

Depends on who is doing the cooking, where, etc. Around here, there’s a community kitchen at a city park where meals a prepared by locals, sometimes the restaurants on the town square donate stuff and time too. It’s not all crappy cafeteria or processed stuff, though that finds it’s way in there as well, it just gets used creatively if it’s at all edible. It’s about location, who’s running the program and their resources.

Investigate and find out who’s running the show in your town. Ask the local foodie/restaurant scene to get involved, that might help things improve faster than you think. It’s good PR for local eateries, small scale farmers, etc to do that work, get involved and help fix it. There’s no reason it has to stay awful, most people have no idea if it’s bad.

151 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:00:07pm

re: #135 BongCrodny

I’m reminded of the old riddle, “How far can you walk into the forest?”

Halfway, because then you’re walking *out* of the forest.

bwahahah i’ll fool them by walking in circles

that’ll show em

152 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:03:52pm

re: #135 BongCrodny

I’m reminded of the old riddle, “How far can you walk into the forest?”

Halfway, because then you’re walking *out* of the forest.

Alternately, you’re only walking into the forest for the first few steps. Then you’re walking in the forest.

153 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:04:10pm

re: #134 Gus

154 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:04:33pm

re: #148 Gus

On my office phone, I just received my first prank call since, maybe, 1987.

It was probably Heywood Jablome.

155 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:06:00pm

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Depends on who is doing the cooking, where, etc. Around here, there’s a community kitchen at a city park where meals a prepared by locals, sometimes the restaurants on the town square donate stuff and time too. It’s not all crappy cafeteria or processed stuff, though that finds it’s way in there as well, it just gets used creatively if it’s at all edible. It’s about location, who’s running the program and their resources.

Exactly. I’ve known people on it and at first it was the same kind of horrible, bland food that makes airline food look like gourmet cuisine, but once the local businesses got involved and started donating food and time, the quality improved.

156 EPR-radar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:08:17pm

re: #147 Feline Fearless Leader

The Middle Earth version of Zeno’s Paradox?

The race of Shadowfax vs. the rock troll?

157 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:08:27pm

Lonegan: It’s ‘Weird’ Cory Booker Won’t Say If He’s Gay; ‘I Personally Like Being A Guy’

Booker’s Republican opponent, Steve Lonegan, was asked about Booker’s response by Newsmax’s Steve Malzberg this afternoon, and said he didn’t know if Booker is gay but thought it was “weird” that he was unwilling to answer the question, speculating that maybe “it helps get him the gay vote by acting ambiguous.”

But Lonegan was sure of one thing: Steve Lonegan is a real man because “as a guy, I personally like being a guy” and he is certainly not one of those sorts who goes in for things like manicures and pedicures like Cory Booker does!

“It was described as his peculiar fetish,” Lonegan said. “I have a more peculiar fetish: I like a good Scotch and a cigar, that’s my fetish. But we’ll just compare the two”:

158 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:09:25pm

re: #152 The Ghost of a Flea

Alternately, you’re only walking into the forest for the first few steps. Then you’re walking in the forest.

And here I thought my brother was the world’s most annoying pedant.

159 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:09:36pm

re: #126 wrenchwench

It’s OK, I doubt that Backwoods_Sleuth caught you.

**sniffle**

160 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:10:04pm

re: #159 Backwoods_Sleuth

**sniffle**

He fixted it!!!

161 EPR-radar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:10:37pm

re: #157 Kragar

Desperate so-con nutjob running for Senate in a blue state by being stupid and crypto-hateful. Please proceed, Lonegan. You should be able to do some damage to the GOP national brand before you are through.

162 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:10:46pm

re: #157 Kragar

Lonegan: It’s ‘Weird’ Cory Booker Won’t Say If He’s Gay; ‘I Personally Like Being A Guy’

I love that he uses the word fetish so, so wrong, because he’s just admitted to being sexually aroused by Scotch and a long cylindrical object that reeks like shit cigars.

163 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:12:44pm

re: #150 A Mom Anon

Great insight and ideas! Thank you cause I’m going to check out who is giving this food away here. I mean seriously it tasted like dog food. I can’t believe they are giving this food to the elderly. Shocking. If you sent this food to a prison there would be a riot.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:14:42pm
165 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:15:23pm

re: #162 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that he uses the word fetish so, so wrong, because he’s just admitted to being sexually aroused by Scotch and a long cylindrical object that reeks like shit cigars.

I like how he assumes “being a guy” means he totally isn’t gay. Like there are no gay men out there who also enjoy being guys.

166 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:16:31pm
167 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:17:11pm

re: #157 Kragar

Lonegan: It’s ‘Weird’ Cory Booker Won’t Say If He’s Gay; ‘I Personally Like Being A Guy’

Who cares if Booker is gay or not?

Also, I know plenty of gay men who like Scotch and cigars. And straight men who get mani-pedis.

168 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:17:25pm

Famous atheist tweets:

169 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:18:26pm

re: #166 NJDhockeyfan

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170 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:20:59pm

re: #160 wrenchwench

He fixted it!!!

I know how easy that slip o’the click can happen. Did it several embarrassing times myself when I was a hatchling and it still happens (albeit rarely) but I usually catch it right away.
I blame this stupid mouse. I have a replacement mouse and should just remember to install it…

171 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:21:07pm

re: #165 Kragar

I like how he assumes “being a guy” means he totally isn’t gay. Like there are no gay men out there who also enjoy being guys.

That one gay guy responsible for half the US’s murders and spreading HIV is totally into cigar bars.

172 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:22:12pm

Rand Paul: Food Stamps Are Just Like Slavery

Senator Rand Paul (R-KY) equated government programs that prevent people from dying of starvation with slavery in a new profile of his medical practice published today, revealing himself to hold a view of the role of government so limited as to nearly define the state out of existence.

Paul’s philosophical excursus is buried in the midst of the too-friendly-for-parody article (it ends with a patient waxing poetic about how Paul “loves people”), but the words are unmistakably Randian. “As humans, yeah, we do have an obligation to give people water, to give people food, to give people health care,” Paul allowed, “but it’s not a right because once you conscript people and say, ‘Oh, it’s a right,’ then really you’re in charge, it’s servitude, you’re in charge of me and I’m supposed to do whatever you tell me to do.”

173 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:22:38pm

I saw the MTV video of Miley Cyrus that shocked the world. I really had to.
I dunno..Look girl..If you want to go on stage and act sexy you really should take some lessons Like a month at a stripper joint ( is she old enough to go to a stripper joint? )
I found a new respect for foam fingers.

174 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:23:23pm

re: #157 Kragar

Lonegan: It’s ‘Weird’ Cory Booker Won’t Say If He’s Gay; ‘I Personally Like Being A Guy’

Lonegan is the one who comes across more insecure in his masculinity than Booker. If Booker’s gay, so be it, it’s not my business. Lonegan’s weird obsession with linking heterosexuality to masculinity and homosexuallity to effeminiate is silly but predictable.

175 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:24:11pm

re: #172 Kragar

Rand Paul: Food Stamps Are Just Like Slavery

So he must like them given him and his father’s associations with CSA apologists.

176 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:24:53pm

re: #165 Kragar

I like how he assumes “being a guy” means he totally isn’t gay. Like there are no gay men out there who also enjoy being guys.

He also assumes that all gay men are effeminate, limp-wristed twinks.

177 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:24:55pm

re: #163 A Man for all Seasons

I encourage you to try to talk with your local restaurant owners association, farmer’s markets, food truck owners, etc. Anyone that has anything at all to do with food producing and selling. Go to Meals on Wheels and see how they’re working, their facilities, scheduling and ask them what they might need. Small business associations often have what’s called a business incubator, where, for example food trucks go to do food prep work in a commercial grade kitchen. Local senior centers may also have these big kitchens. It’s hard work to co-ordinate all this but it’s likely the infrastructure is there, it just may not have good management or creative resourcing. Good management and good food resources can turn a bad program around fast. You just have to devote the time, hell get the media involved if you can, scout troops, high schoolers looking to get some community service hours in, etc. Do it!!! LOL.

178 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:25:10pm

re: #156 EPR-radar

The race of Shadowfax vs. the rock troll?

One cannot simply walk into the same stream in Mordor twice.

179 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:25:15pm
180 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:25:21pm

Afternoon/evening Lizardim.

181 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:25:50pm

re: #176 Lidane

He also assumes that all gay men are effeminate, limp-wristed twinks.

Yep. He’s a moron.

182 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:26:54pm
183 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:28:02pm

re: #167 Lidane

Who cares if Booker is gay or not?

Also, I know plenty of gay men who like Scotch and cigars. And straight men who get mani-pedis.

Besides, who wants to sleep with someone who has bad grooming? Or no grooming?

Cheeez. That ought to get Lonegan a bunch of dates.

184 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:28:49pm

I am SO mad!! I came OHSOCLOE to breaking par two days in a row golfing here in South Carolina. The only thing that prevented it wa the extra 140 or so strokes I took!!!!

185 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:29:32pm

re: #184 sattv4u2

Those Bastards!!!

186 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:30:13pm

re: #183 Justanotherhuman

Besides, who wants to sleep with someone who has bad grooming? Or no grooming?

Cheeez. That ought to get Lonegan a bunch of dates.

Mylie Cyrus???/

187 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:30:17pm

re: #172 Kragar

OK, so it isn’t the poors getting food stamps who are slaves it’s all the rest of us taxpayers who of course aren’t slaves if our taxes go for tanks and missile things. //

188 Bulworth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:31:21pm

re: #184 sattv4u2

Thanks Obama!!

189 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:32:24pm

Is this possible?

190 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:32:52pm

re: #188 Bulworth

Thanks Obama!!

I have one more shot at it tomorrow

18 holes

18 beers in three six packs

Coincidence? i think not!!

191 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:33:15pm

re: #162 The Ghost of a Flea

I love that he uses the word fetish so, so wrong, because he’s just admitted to being sexually aroused by Scotch and a long cylindrical object that reeks like shit cigars.

I like how he has to bring it up. He comes off across as very insecure. I enjoy whiskey a lot myself but I don’t use the fact that I do to advertise that it makes me more of a man than a guy who doesn’t. Sure I may bust on someone but I don’t actually believe it since Lonegan seems to.

192 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:35:36pm
193 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:36:32pm

re: #192 Gus

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Bayard Rustin

194 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:37:06pm

re: #177 A Mom Anon

Great ideas! I live off campus from OU. There are 40,000 students across the street I can engage. Thank you for the motivation and ideas. This college town has more food places than Carter has pills.

195 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:37:13pm

re: #187 Bulworth

OK, so it isn’t the poors getting food stamps who are slaves it’s all the rest of us taxpayers who of course aren’t slaves if our taxes go for tanks and missile things. //

What? You have something against the taxpayers making sure the USA has sufficient bling?

196 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:37:25pm

re: #182 Lidane

The religious right is in full melt-down mode over teh ghey.

197 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:37:36pm

re: #182 Lidane

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Of course, he’s not going to apologize. I don’t think he ever did for saying we deserved 9/11. Pat will keep on saying absurd crap about homosexuals until he finally dies.

198 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:37:58pm

re: #187 Bulworth

OK, so it isn’t the poors getting food stamps who are slaves it’s all the rest of us taxpayers who of course aren’t slaves if our taxes go for tanks and missile things. //

It’s the only penis enlargement that works. Promise!

///

199 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:39:22pm

I’ve seen some NYT staffers tweeting that the website was attacked. Not an upgrade gone wrong this time.

200 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:40:41pm

re: #190 sattv4u2

I have one more shot at it tomorrow

18 holes

18 beers in three six packs

Coincidence? i think not!!

Bro..You must suck..The neat thing about golf is that is fun no matter what the score is.
Don’t forget to take a big fat cigar! Have fun!

201 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:41:33pm
202 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:43:22pm

re: #191 HappyWarrior

I like how he has to bring it up. He comes off across as very insecure. I enjoy whiskey a lot myself but I don’t use the fact that I do to advertise that it makes me more of a man than a guy who doesn’t. Sure I may bust on someone but I don’t actually believe it since Lonegan seems to.

I am a white malebot. Insert preference for normative masculine pursuits, filtering for age and class preferences to achieve maximum acceptability. Scanning for homoeroticism…. Defrag normative gender expectations? Buffering…Blandness at 96%…buffering….

203 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:43:56pm

re: #200 A Man for all Seasons

Bro..You must suck..The neat thing about golf is that is fun no matter what the score is.
Don’t forget to take a big fat cigar! Have fun!

Where did I say I’m not having any fun??
Or cigars??

204 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:44:16pm

re: #90 Backwoods_Sleuth

I remember some study quite a while ago where the researchers put a rubber snake in the road and then counted how many people deliberately swerved to run over the snake.
It was a LOT of drivers…

Not surprising considering how serpents are depicted in religion, mythology, movies, etc. They get the bad rap almost every time.

I know nothing about phobias, but I would wager snakes figure high up in the human fear table.

205 HappyWarrior  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:44:26pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

I am a white malebot. Insert prefer for normative masculine pursuits, filtering for age and class preferences to achieve maximum acceptability. Scanning for homoeroticism…. Defrag normative gender expectations? Buffering…Blandness at 96%…buffering….

I also thought of these two characters.
s689.photobucket.com

206 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:47:32pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

I am a white malebot. Insert preference for normative masculine pursuits, filtering for age and class preferences to achieve maximum acceptability. Scanning for homoeroticism…. Defrag normative gender expectations? Buffering…Blandness at 96%…buffering….

There is nothing more I enjoy more than kicking back, having a [insert local alocholic beverage] with a large order of [insert fatty fried food] and watch [local sports team].

207 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:47:40pm
208 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:47:46pm

Syrian Electronic Army

en.wikipedia.org

I wonder if this info is still current?

209 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:47:56pm

re: #200 A Man for all Seasons

Bro..You must suck..The neat thing about golf is that is fun no matter what the score is.
Don’t forget to take a big fat cigar! Have fun!

I like golfing with my dad. I suck, so we only play 9 holes. And I just choke down on his clubs instead of having my own.

Haven’t gotten to go in years though. :(

210 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:48:18pm

re: #203 sattv4u2

Where did I say I’m not having any fun??
Or cigars??

How could you not? This is American Damn it!
You seem to go to the same place every year..It must be great for you and your family..Is the boy with you?

211 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:49:26pm

re: #101 Backwoods_Sleuth

ahhh…Michele Bachmann’s homophobic Christian musician friend. Oh, and apparently he’s still suing Rachel Maddow.

Bradlee Dean is the waste of a good drum kit.

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:50:05pm

re: #209 klys

I like golfing with my dad. I suck, so we only play 9 holes. And I just choke down on his clubs instead of having my own.

Haven’t gotten to go in years though. :(

I totally suck at golf.
That’s why I only play miniature golf.
I suck at that too but don’t have to walk so much…

213 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:50:33pm
214 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:52:00pm

re: #194 A Man for all Seasons

There’s a huge chance that no one knows how bad things are Hoops. It also may not be the MoW chapter’s fault, so you should tread kind of gently when dealing with them. They may not have the staff and resources to do any better. Once people know how bad things are, no one’s gonna let that continue. You have a college town’s resources which is a BFD.

Warning: you are going to be on the phone a lot if you take this on. And spending time talking and talking and talking and telling the same stories over and over. Take lots of notes and start a phone list with contact names .If you’re not a good manager,find one, asap. Try your local veterans groups too, talk the old soldiers and sailors that use the program, see what they would like. Nutrition is important, but so is the contact with the people bringing the food.

215 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:52:11pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

I’ve seen some NYT staffers tweeting that the website was attacked. Not an upgrade gone wrong this time.

It appears that they are still down.

216 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:52:30pm

re: #107 erik_t

So he’s saying we need to hurry up and build the dang wall around Arkansas?

Well…..

If I was a Californian, I’d want to contain Mike Huckleberry too!

217 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:52:52pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

I totally suck at golf.
That’s why I only play miniature golf.
I suck at that too but don’t have to walk so much…

When my parents came out for graduation, we went to play miniature golf after a few rounds at the bar for dinner. I came in second (after my dad). My husband came in last.

The course had like 5 volcano holes, which my husband abhors. I got a hole in one on one of them.

Also, there were water hazards. My husband hit one of them like 4 times.

It was a hell of a lot better than playing mini golf before I could drink.

218 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:54:14pm

Well, this is very current: facebook.com

Very pro Assad from what I can tell. Govt run? At least govt approved.

219 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:54:39pm
220 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:54:56pm

re: #209 klys

I like golfing with my dad. I suck, so we only play 9 holes. And I just choke down on his clubs instead of having my own.

Haven’t gotten to go in years though. :(

That is what it is about..Time alone with your pops in the outdoors. When I was young my folks were big golf players and they would make me caddy. I would carry clubs for 18 holes.

221 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:54:59pm
222 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:55:26pm

re: #215 Bubblehead II

It appears that they are still down.

This is a way in. I haven’t tried it yet.

223 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:55:46pm

re: #109 Backwoods_Sleuth

too late…the Clintons already migrated…
//

Big Bill had loins like a cantaloupe or was that desires, or something???

//

224 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:56:51pm

re: #220 A Man for all Seasons

That is what it is about..Time alone with your pops in the outdoors. When I was young my folks were big golf players and they would make me caddy. I would carry clubs for 18 holes.

My sisters never got into it; it was really just something Dad and I did. Of course, I am daddy’s little girl.

When my parents gave me my present to celebrate finishing my Ph.D., the check was made out to be $xxx.98 - so I always have to go back to my dad to get his two cents. :)

225 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:58:02pm
226 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 2:58:42pm

re: #222 NJDhockeyfan

This is a way in. I haven’t tried it yet.

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Looks like they got the DNS servers instead of the NYT severs then.

227 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:02:24pm

This works fine for NYT: 170.149.168.130

228 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:02:29pm

re: #114 A Mom Anon

I just told a friend of mine this morning to shush about the NSA until she shuts down her Twitter and Facebook accounts, quits entering every contest she can sign up for and gets rid of the 11, yes, ELEVEN credit cards(most from various dept stores, like Kohl’s, Macy’s etc)she uses all the time, and the store discount club cards she has for all the area grocery stores and gas stations. Her cell phone’s gonna have to go too, and the GPS in her car. All those things provide more info to third parties than anything the NSA might be doing. Like they give a shit about the conversations we have about our dogs and when we’re going for walks. Please.

She’s been kinda quiet since then, lol.

Good work. A little common sense can be dangerous. Like kryptonite.

But, I feel bad for someone who thinks like that. How ever are they gonna be able to bitch for all the world to hear?

229 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:03:03pm
230 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:03:40pm

re: #202 The Ghost of a Flea

I am a white malebot. Insert preference for normative masculine pursuits, filtering for age and class preferences to achieve maximum acceptability. Scanning for homoeroticism…. Defrag normative gender expectations? Buffering…Blandness at 96%…buffering….

dear abby, the color of my car is negatively impacting my testosterone level. should i commit suicide now or merely make an effort to view more manly television dramas?

231 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:05:39pm

re: #192 Gus

re: #193 HappyWarrior

Bayard Rustin

You know who has a good blog post about that? Our Pages hatchling, Paul Canning.

It is especially pleasing to see as part of the remembrance of the fiftieth anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom the rehabilitation of Bayard Rustin, a lost gay hero or a lost hero full-stop.

[…]

It’s not one of the ones he posted here.

232 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:05:48pm

Click on any of the articles, no go.

233 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:08:34pm

re: #223 ObserverArt

Big Bill had loins like a cantaloupe or was that desires, or something???

//

dunno…but he did have cigars…

234 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:08:36pm

re: #221 Charles Johnson

So, not a cover of the Bowie song….

Nice.

235 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:09:28pm

re: #222 NJDhockeyfan

This is a way in. I haven’t tried it yet.

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re: #227 Justanotherhuman

This works fine for NYT: 170.149.168.130

It gets you to their home page, but you can’t read any of the articles as all the links uses the http:fwdslashfwdslashnytimes.com header instead of an IP address. So until they get the DNS servers cleaned up/reconfigured they are pretty much dead in the water.

236 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:09:44pm

What Robertson was describing resembles an assassination scene in the movie Megiddo. Immediately after a handshake, a toxic substance delivered by a ring worn by the evil one (portrayed by Michael York) triggered a fatal blood clot in the victim.

However, Robertson should know that AIDS and Alzheimer’s kill slowly.

237 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:10:14pm

re: #236 abolitionist

What Robertson was describing resembles an assassination scene in the movie Megiddo. Immediately after a handshake, a toxic substance delivered by a ring worn by the evil one (portrayed by Michael York) triggered a fatal blood clot in the victim.

However, Robertson should know that AIDS and Alzheimer’s kill slowly.

He doesn’t care. All he cares about is finding a way to blame Teh Ghey for everything.

238 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:11:01pm
239 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:11:14pm

re: #232 Amory Blaine

Click on any of the articles, no go.

try this; copy the article URL but substitute the IP address for newyorktimes.com

http://170.149.168.130/2013/08/28/world/middleeast/obama-syria-strike.html?hp

240 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:13:03pm

re: #199 Charles Johnson

Some of my favorite websites have been under severe DOS attacks the past few weeks, too.

Is there an internet war going on that I wasn’t told about?

241 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:13:03pm
242 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:13:05pm

Ha…UNCONFIRMED right now but it wouldn’t surprise me that the rat coward would run away.

243 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:13:24pm

re: #241 darthstar

More Miley!

mileycyrustwerkingonreality.tumblr.com

Meant as a way to get us to pay attention.

244 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:14:08pm

re: #240 freetoken

Some of my favorite websites have been under severe DOS attacks the past few weeks, too.

Is there an internet war going on that I wasn’t told about?

Once again, caught on the front lines and I’m not even naked.

245 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:14:22pm

re: #242 NJDhockeyfan

Iran might ally with him and attack us if we hit Syria.

246 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:14:57pm

re: #176 Lidane

He also assumes that all gay men are effeminate, limp-wristed twinks.

Exactly. I had posted this in today’s sidebar about the Arizona Intern to Gabby Giffords.

To the idiot that mentions ‘real man’ and ‘sports’ in the flyer, I hope some day you get to realize that some of the gay guys you may come across will be body builders, athletes, construction workers, burly policemen, in short they will have all the looks of manly real men. And if one should run his fist down your throat for being a dumb ass bigot then I guess you will realize and learn it the hard way. In fact I hope it happens.

Sorry, please excuse my outburst…

247 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:16:25pm

re: #240 freetoken

Some of my favorite websites have been under severe DOS attacks the past few weeks, too.

Is there an internet war going on that I wasn’t told about?

Generally speaking, there’s always “an internet war” going on. It’s just that the front lines shift so rapidly that any given site may or may not be under attack at a given time. You just happened to fall on the wrong side of the roulette wheel this time.

248 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:16:31pm

Testing some code that requires posting videos…

Youtube Video

249 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:16:37pm

Ooh, Bobby Jindal…you dirty, dirty man.

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250 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:16:57pm

So in and among the encryption stories has been the test of the 5th amendment. Wondering what you folks might think.

Is it forcing you to incriminate yourself if a court orders you to give up a password on your computer or storage? The government argues that using encryption is evidence of criminal activity. Legit or not?

251 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:19:20pm
252 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:20:03pm
253 AlexRogan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:20:03pm

re: #249 darthstar

How about a NSFW tag for that pic?

254 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:20:38pm

re: #249 darthstar

Ooh, Bobby Jindal…you dirty, dirty man.

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Nothing in for Utah? LOL. So if you are out in the wilds on Utah, breaking the law and you have two or three wives, I guess you have to follow that other law that says only one at a time? Multiple wives but no porn. //

255 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:20:49pm

re: #210 A Man for all Seasons

How could you not? This is American Damn it!
You seem to go to the same place every year..It must be great for you and your family..Is the boy with you?

No,, and neither is Mrs Satty

“Boys” weekend out. 2 friends of mine have been here since Thursday (this time, we’re staying at their place in Myrtle) Another guy came down Saturday and I came Sunday

256 Dr. Matt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:20:55pm

re: #249 darthstar

Ooh, Bobby Jindal…you dirty, dirty man.

Image: 1269271_10151810644608967_1097258970_o.png

The west coast likes Asians and the east coast likes Creampies. I think Abe Lincoln first said that, right?

257 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:21:28pm

re: #250 Political Atheist

So in and among the encryption stories has been the test of the 5th amendment. Wondering what you folks might think.

Is it forcing you to incriminate yourself if a court orders you to give up a password on your computer or storage? The government argues that using encryption is evidence of criminal activity. Legit or not?

Absolutely not a legit argument. I do not think a valid case could be made for encryption being evidence of criminal activity; among other things, encrypted transmissions are used for routine secure transactions such as personal banking. I would encrypt my personal documents if I kept copies on my computer. Also, certain private industries may require encryption for hard drives containing sensitive customer data. If there is other legitimate evidence indicating that the encrypted data contains evidence of illegal activity, then fine, but the presumption of innocence should hold.

258 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:21:30pm

re: #250 Political Atheist

So in and among the encryption stories has been the test of the 5th amendment. Wondering what you folks might think.

Is it forcing you to incriminate yourself if a court orders you to give up a password on your computer or storage? The government argues that using encryption is evidence of criminal activity. Legit or not?

Answering obliquely, I’m thinking of changing my public nic to unproven innocent.

259 Dr. Matt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:23:34pm

re: #254 Political Atheist

Nothing in for Utah? LOL. //

No porn. No drugs. Utah = boring

260 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:23:58pm

re: #246 ObserverArt

Exactly. I had posted this in today’s sidebar about the Arizona Intern to Gabby Giffords.

To the idiot that mentions ‘real man’ and ‘sports’ in the flyer, I hope some day you get to realize that some of the gay guys you may come across will be body builders, athletes, construction workers, burly policemen, in short they will have all the looks of manly real men. And if one should run his fist down your throat for being a dumb ass bigot then I guess you will realize and learn it the hard way. In fact I hope it happens.

Sorry, please excuse my outburst…

Heh, true that. Back in my taxi driving days one of my regular customers taught a guy that lesson. After opening a can of whoop-ass on the guy outside a gay club, he informed him, “I might be gay, but I’m NOT a sissy.”

261 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:24:17pm

If this doesn’t make your day, well, I tried.

262 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:25:10pm
263 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:25:56pm

NYT statement:

Times Web Site Affected by External Hacking Attack

The New York Times Web site was unavailable to readers on Tuesday afternoon following an attack on the company’s domain name registrar, Melbourne IT. The attack alsorequired employees of The Times to stop sending out sensitive e-mails.

Marc Frons, chief information officer for The New York Times Company, issued a statement at 4:20 p.m. warning employees that the disruption — which appeared to still be affecting the Web site as of 5:50 p.m. — was ” the result of a malicious external attack by the Syrian Electronic Army “or someone trying very hard to be them.” He advised employees to “be careful when sending e-mail communications until this situation is resolved.”

Several people on Twitter said they believed it was the work of the Syrian Electronic Army, a group of hackers who support President Bahar al-Assad of Syria. Matt Johansen, head of the Threat Research Center at White Hat Security, posted on Twitter that he was directed to a Syrian Web domain when he tried to access The Times’s Web site.

Until now, The Times has been spared from being hacked by the Syrian Electronic Army, which has successfully disrupted the Web operations of news organizations like The Financial Times. On Aug. 15, the group hacked The Washington Post’s Web site through a third-party service provided by a company called Outbrain. At the time, the Syrian Electronic Army also tried to hack CNN. Some information security experts said the group also appeared to be ready to hack The New York Times Web site that day.

In a post on Twitter Tuesday afternoon, The Syrian Electronic Army also said it had hacked the administrative contact information for Twitter’s domain name registry records. According to the Whois.com lookup service, the Syrian Electronic Army was listed on the entries for Twitter’s administrative name, technical name and e-mail address.

264 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:27:57pm
265 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:28:41pm

re: #148 Gus

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Bowling alley attendant: Hello?
Voice on phone: Do you have 10 lb balls?
Bowling alley attendant: Yes I do.
Voice on phone: God, how do you walk? Hahahahaha [click]

266 Kaessa  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:30:38pm

re: #240 freetoken

Some of my favorite websites have been under severe DOS attacks the past few weeks, too.

Is there an internet war going on that I wasn’t told about?

I’m not sure, but my website has been under a fairly sustained attack over the past few months. And it’s just a blog at which I hardly ever post.

267 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:33:45pm

I hate summer.

The AC installation is finished tomorrow and I am sad because I really want it done now.

/OT venting

268 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:34:10pm

WTF?

269 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:35:27pm

re: #250 Political Atheist

So in and among the encryption stories has been the test of the 5th amendment. Wondering what you folks might think.

Is it forcing you to incriminate yourself if a court orders you to give up a password on your computer or storage? The government argues that using encryption is evidence of criminal activity. Legit or not?

Haven’t heard of that particular argument being used and if it is or has been then it’s a load of B.S. You are allowed to be secure in your papers.

The reasoning I have heard used for a Court ordering a defendant to provide the password/phrase for an encrypted file or drive is that it no different than a safes combination or a safety deposit box key. Both of which you are required to surrender if so ordered by the Court. To the best of my knowledge this hasn’t been decided at the SCOTUS level with a mixed bag of rulings from the various appellate Courts.

270 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:35:48pm
271 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:35:50pm

re: #257 thedopefishlives
re: #258 abolitionist

To me it’s shocking that there is even a question. Giving up your passwords is absolutely the same as being asked to incriminate yourself.

272 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:37:40pm

re: #269 Bubblehead II

Haven’t heard of that particular argument being used and if it is or has been then it’s a load of B.S. You are allowed to be secure in your papers.

The reasoning I have heard used for a Court ordering a defendant to provide the password/phrase for an encrypted file or drive is that it no different than a safes combination or a safety deposit box key. Both of which you are required to surrender if so ordered by the Court. To the best of my knowledge this hasn’t been decided at the SCOTUS level with a mixed bag of rulings from the various appellate Courts.

What’s interesting there is the government could surely open that safe on it’s own. But I can imagine encryption beyond what a prosecutor could have hacked in a case short on national security priority.

273 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:38:00pm
274 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:38:10pm

re: #271 Political Atheist

To me it’s shocking that there is even a question. Giving up your passwords is absolutely the same as being asked to incriminate yourself.

Being asked to testify against oneself, I would think. There are countless ways to find someone guilty of something. This should not be one of them. And neither should hoovering.

275 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:38:41pm

re: #263 NJDhockeyfan

NYT statement:

Times Web Site Affected by External Hacking Attack

Hmm, I think maybe they don’t want to admit that the issues they were having on 8/14 should’ve been a big red flag.

276 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:39:00pm

re: #269 Bubblehead II

That would make more sense, but I would actually be against being required to turn over personal keys or combinations unless there is compelling evidence to demonstrate that evidence necessary to the case is inside the safe. How is it reasonable to allow the police to rifle through my personal documentation if they’re just going on a fishing expedition?

277 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:40:48pm

I just posted this.

jinx!

278 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:41:55pm

re: #275 CuriousLurker

Hmm, I think maybe they don’t want to admit that the issues they were having on 8/14 should’ve been a big red flag.

It’s also kinda crazy that they’d send out “sensitive e-mails” unencrypted. O_o

279 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:42:53pm

The sleep fairies finally paid a visit and I slept 6 hours. Yet, I still feel like I haven’t slept in days.

I don’t know who to blame.

280 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:43:29pm

Someone should create an encryption system that wipes data when given a specific password. “My password? Sure, It’s “oops!”.”

281 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:43:54pm

Dudebros are very melodramatic.

282 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:44:38pm

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

The sleep fairies finally paid a visit and I slept 6 hours. Yet, I still feel like I haven’t slept in days.

I don’t know who to blame.

Obama.

283 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:44:41pm

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

Obama!

284 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:45:03pm

Ah ha. Finally found a pesky bug. If you post a YouTube video using their URL shortener (youtu.be) it will now be properly added to the Media Library.

285 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:45:07pm

The first three posts are the weeks allotment of cuteness!

286 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:45:24pm

America, Xtreme:

US studies may overestimate effect sizes in softer research

Many biases affect scientific research, causing a waste of resources, posing a threat to human health, and hampering scientific progress. These problems are hypothesized to be worsened by lack of consensus on theories and methods, by selective publication processes, and by career systems too heavily oriented toward productivity, such as those adopted in the United States (US). Here, we extracted 1,174 primary outcomes appearing in 82 meta-analyses published in health-related biological and behavioral research sampled from the Web of Science categories Genetics & Heredity and Psychiatry and measured how individual results deviated from the overall summary effect size within their respective meta-analysis. We found that primary studies whose outcome included behavioral parameters were generally more likely to report extreme effects, and those with a corresponding author based in the US were more likely to deviate in the direction predicted by their experimental hypotheses, particularly when their outcome did not include additional biological parameters. Nonbehavioral studies showed no such “US effect” and were subject mainly to sampling variance and small-study effects, which were stronger for non-US countries. Although this latter finding could be interpreted as a publication bias against non-US authors, the US effect observed in behavioral research is unlikely to be generated by editorial biases. Behavioral studies have lower methodological consensus and higher noise, making US researchers potentially more likely to express an underlying propensity to report strong and significant findings.

We’re so addicted to extreme behaviors that even published studies on human behavior overly tout the extreme?

See also:


US behavioural research studies skew positive

287 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:46:25pm

re: #286 freetoken

America, Xtreme:

US studies may overestimate effect sizes in softer research

We’re so addicted to extreme behaviors that even published studies on human behavior overly tout the extreme?

See also:

US behavioural research studies skew positive

shock and awe always gets the money?

288 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:46:48pm

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

The first three posts are the weeks allotment of cuteness!

That’s 50lbs of cute in a 10lb bag. (or 4.28kg bag)

289 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:47:08pm
290 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:47:34pm

Someone on my FB finally brought up the fact that the song Robin Thicke sang during Miley’s “performance” is pretty disgusting too.

291 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:48:18pm

re: #290 ProTARDISLiberal

Someone on my FB finally brought up the fact that the song Robin Thicke sang during Miley’s “performance” is pretty disgusting too.

That’s addressed in one of the pages up top too.

292 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:49:18pm

Hmm. Kristof apparently deleted that tweet.

293 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:49:42pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Kristof apparently deleted that tweet.

It was the Syrians.

294 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:50:18pm
295 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:50:18pm

Or maybe it was the Cylons…

296 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:50:36pm

re: #272 Political Atheist

What’s interesting there is the government could surely open that safe on it’s own. But I can imagine encryption beyond what a prosecutor could have hacked in a case short on national security priority.

re: #276 thedopefishlives

That would make more sense, but I would actually be against being required to turn over personal keys or combinations unless there is compelling evidence to demonstrate that evidence necessary to the case is inside the safe. How is it reasonable to allow the police to rifle through my personal documentation if they’re just going on a fishing expedition?

Lawhawk is better qualified to answer these questions than me. I’m just an Electron pusher who reads the news. As I stated above, there have been a mixed bag of rulings. Some Courts hold that the password/phrase is a key and must be surrendered upon a Courts demand. Others have ruled since the password/phrase is an intangable item (IE thought/memory) it is not subject to seizure. And until the SCOTUS actually rules either way, it is open to debate.

Personally, I think forcing an Individual to provide the cops with anything that will help them prosecute them is a violation of the 5th. I also think Grand Juries are a crock of shit to.

297 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:50:42pm
298 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:51:43pm

The internets are funky today.

299 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:52:10pm

I was wrong, he didn’t delete it. Twitter glitches.

300 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:52:12pm

re: #279 FemNaziBitch

The sleep fairies finally paid a visit and I slept 6 hours. Yet, I still feel like I haven’t slept in days.

I don’t know who to blame.

Why Obama of course. He’s the cause of all the Worlds ills.

301 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:55:14pm

Three more counties to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples

The strange, piecemeal approach to legalizing same-sex marriage in New Mexico continued on Tuesday.

Bernalillo County began issuing marriage licenses (at noon, Maggie Toulouse Oliver said early Tuesday afternoon her office had already issued the most marriage licenses in one day since she was in office) after a court order on Tuesday. A ceremony with 12 couples took place on Civic Plaza just after noon.

But three other counties with smaller populations also joined the same-sex marriage license issuance brigade.

Emboldened by a court order in District Court, the clerks in San Miguel and Valencia County announced they would begin issuing marriage certificates to same-sex couples.

A writ of mandamus in district court by Judge Jeff F. McElroy allowed the Taos County clerk to issue marriage licenses as well, according to Rep. Brian Egolf.

[…]

302 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:55:19pm

Kansas State’s student newspaper, theCollegian, features a story about well known creationist Jonathan Sarfati visiting the campus:

Speaker challenges evolution, offers alternative view

… that is all fluff and promotional for creationism.

Even the comments are sorely lacking.

What are they teaching at KSU?

303 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:57:14pm

So the SEA attacks the NYT, Twitter & HuffPo today. Twitter and HuffPo appear to be back and the NYT will be soon. They spent all day to attack these website for a few hours…what do they think they achieved? I don’t get it.

304 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:58:16pm

On the Capitol: State joins growing list of employers offering pay through prepaid cards

A new way for Wisconsin employees to be paid is viewed by some as a tactic by banks to collect more money from consumers.
State agencies recently announced that employees can elect to receive payment on a prepaid card through a program called Accelapay offered by U.S. Bank. Previously they could receive a paper check or have money directly deposited into a bank account.

A June 30 article in the New York Times reported employers such as McDonald’s, Walgreens and Wal-Mart are increasingly using the cards to cut costs, while in some cases forcing employees to pay fees to use the cards. In Pennsylvania, a McDonald’s employee filed a lawsuit claiming the fees reduced her pay below minimum wage.

305 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 3:58:36pm

Speaking of creationism - NPR, beware when the IDiots start praising you:

On Public Radio’s “Interfaith Voices,” Stephen Meyer and Michael Ruse Debate Darwin’s Doubt

I appreciate the way host Maureen Fiedler makes clear the three-way distinction and contrast of intelligent design versus creationism versus Darwinian evolution. It’s an amazing thing to reflect on that few in the media are able to do so.

Here’s the whole NPR show, I’ve not listened to it yet but maybe someone will find it of interest:

MP3 Audio

306 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:00:16pm

Are there any Lizards here that are in the vicenity of Vandebburg AFB? Did the NROL-65 Delta IV Heavy launch lift off as planned or was it scrubbed?

307 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:00:53pm

re: #301 wrenchwench

That’s 6.

27 to go.

However, those 6 counties account for 56% of the state’s population. (1,169,502 out of 2,085,538)

308 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:01:18pm

Twitter was also attacked by the Syrian Electronic Army today.

309 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:01:22pm

Ooops, here is the original:

MP3 Audio

310 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:01:33pm

re: #306 Bubblehead II

I think that’s tomorrow. Heard something on the radio, but I was a tad distracted by traffic.

311 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:02:03pm

Dear Pat,
Go fornicate yourself.

313 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:02:27pm

re: #303 NJDhockeyfan

So the SEA attacks the NYT, Twitter & HuffPo today. Twitter and HuffPo appear to be back and the NYT will be soon. They spent all day to attack these website for a few hours…what do they think they achieved? I don’t get it.

To show their capability? I mean you would think the NYT & Twitter would have pretty good security.

Makes you wonder about Financial Institutions or Power Grid vulnerabilities? Maybe a warning.

314 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:03:27pm

New tell-all book on Michelle Bachmann: “Bachmannistan”. She relied on World Nut Daily to “stay informed” and fired a mother of 7 on Christmas Eve.

She made no statements until she ran them through “consultants”.

Sounds as dumb as Palin. But I think everyone knew that except the dumbasses in her district who kept electing her.

315 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:03:34pm

re: #313 blueraven

To show their capability? I mean you would think the NYT would have pretty good security.

Makes you wonder about Financial Institutions or Power Grid vulnerabilities? Maybe a warning.

I’ll let you in on a little secret,
We have shit cybersecurity. Utter shit.

316 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:03:51pm

Wow, this is a pretty serious hack, folks. They apparently managed to take over the DNS for Twitter and the New York Times today.

Not good.

317 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:03:57pm

re: #304 Amory Blaine

On the Capitol: State joins growing list of employers offering pay through prepaid cards

The company I work for tried doing this. It went over like the proverbial lead ballon and while still being offered, isn’t really being used as much as they want and may be soon discontinued.

318 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:04:38pm

re: #313 blueraven

Isn’t it a false flag operation by the Obama administration, to take everyone’s eyes off of the NSA ?

319 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:04:53pm
320 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:06:11pm

re: #315 Pavlovian Hive Mind

I’ll let you in on a little secret,
We have shit cybersecurity. Utter shit.

U.S. cybersecurity is all about writing reports and documenting known findings. Actually getting around to fixing the issues? Not so much.

321 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:07:15pm
322 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:07:23pm

re: #318 freetoken

Isn’t it a false flag operation by the Obama administration, to take everyone’s eyes off of the NSA ?

Hmmm…better check with GG before I answer that. //

323 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:08:08pm
324 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:08:43pm

re: #310 Political Atheist

I think that’s tomorrow. Heard something on the radio, but I was a tad distracted by traffic.

Your right. I misread the article.

As early as 10:52 a.m. Wednesday, the 235-foot Delta IV Heavy rocket will lift off from the base’s Space Launch Complex 6, leaving a thick white plume over the Pacific.

psssst. It’s a spy satellite that the NSA is going to use to monitor your Twitter posts.

325 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:08:45pm

We’re still having problems with the Twitter API urls, although I think the attack has been shut down now. DNS results are cached for a while, so there’s nothing I can do about it.

326 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:10:36pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

Wow, this is a pretty serious hack, folks. They apparently managed to take over the DNS for Twitter and the New York Times today.

Not good.

Huffpo was hit today too.

327 piratedan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:12:09pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

please, don’t let this be tied back to Snowden, else there will be some serious shit falling from the skies….. and I only speculate this because Russia lurves Syria and Russia lurves Snowden and supposedly the stuff that Snowden has taken is so volatile that no one dares to publish it regarding procedures and capabilities….and ongoing access operations.

328 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:12:19pm
329 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:13:41pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

Wow, this is a pretty serious hack, folks. They apparently managed to take over the DNS for Twitter and the New York Times today.

Not good.

So the NYT with their new found Snowden files and partnership with The Guardian is going to be asking from the US Govt. (NSA) in finding out and stopping who did the attack?

330 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:14:22pm

re: #303 NJDhockeyfan

So the SEA attacks the NYT, Twitter & HuffPo today. Twitter and HuffPo appear to be back and the NYT will be soon. They spent all day to attack these website for a few hours…what do they think they achieved? I don’t get it.

Attention. It’s a head game: You might be the most powerful country in the world, but we can still screw with you by disrupting your internet and blasting out our message.

Didn’t Amazon go down too last week? Wasn’t there also a trading outage on the stock market last week? Those may not be related, but that’s an awful lot of coincidence.

331 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:14:29pm

re: #319 Pavlovian Hive Mind

That should be illegal.

It should, but it isn’t and probably won’t be. You and I both know how tightly knit banks and politicians are.

332 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:14:32pm

LOL!

333 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:15:12pm

Syrian Electronic Army

i haven’t been keeping up with techno music i admit it

334 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:15:33pm

re: #327 piratedan

please, don’t let this be tied back to Snowden, else there will be some serious shit falling from the skies….. and I only speculate this because Russia lurves Syria and Russia lurves Snowden and supposedly the stuff that Snowden has taken is so volatile that no one dares to publish it regarding procedures and capabilities….and ongoing access operations.

Maybe the SEA got GG, too. Hasn’t tweeted in 8 hrs.

335 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:16pm

re: #334 Justanotherhuman

That could be mercy from Allah though.

336 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:18pm

re: #327 piratedan

please, don’t let this be tied back to Snowden, else there will be some serious shit falling from the skies….. and I only speculate this because Russia

Yeah, the attack was against the DNS system rather than against the servers themselves. DNS is known to be insecure against some publicized attacks, and I don’t know about the status of any RFC’s for secured DNS.

337 AlexRogan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:29pm

re: #334 Justanotherhuman

Maybe the SEA got GG, too. Hasn’t tweeted in 8 hrs.

If only that were true…

338 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:46pm

Dear Amazon:

If I search room AC, why do whiskey glasses come up in the results?

(The bonus/exercise room won’t have the house AC, shhhh.)

339 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:16:54pm

re: #292 Charles Johnson

Hmm. Kristof apparently deleted that tweet.

I just now clicked on the timestamp and it’s there.

340 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:17:10pm

re: #316 Charles Johnson

Wow, this is a pretty serious hack, folks. They apparently managed to take over the DNS for Twitter and the New York Times today.

Not good.

somebody told me about a rumor that the chinese army has been concentrating on technology to hack all american utility systems control networks

341 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:20:35pm

re: #328 Gus

[Embedded content]

just go ahead and say drama queen instead of melodramatic…

342 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:22:20pm

Syrian Electronic Army Apparently Hacks DNS Records Of Twitter, NYT Through Registrar Melbourne IT

Interestingly, both The New York Times and Twitter name servers appear to have been registered through the registrar Melbourne IT. This led some to posit that a breach at the registrar allowed changes to be made, possibly with an administrative account. This would explain why the changes are being made across several companies. The New York Times has now confirmed that his is true.

According to a report from The Next Web, Melbourne IT began managing Twitter’s domains in 2009.

343 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:22:40pm
344 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:22:53pm

re: #334 Justanotherhuman

Maybe the SEA got GG, too. Hasn’t tweeted in 8 hrs.

Naaa…Syria has taken him off the front page so he’s writing up his next scoop.

345 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:22:55pm

Somebody is seriously jacking with us.

This month:
Hotmail
Amazon
Google
NYT
more??

346 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:23:24pm

re: #339 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just now clicked on the timestamp and it’s there.

Banned words of 2013. //

347 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:24:10pm
China has said it has suffered its “biggest ever” cyber-attack, causing many websites based in the country to go temporarily offline.

The distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack was said to have targeted servers responsible for sites with a “.cn” domain name.

The country has not speculated on who may be responsible.

bbc

somebody’s busy

348 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:27:39pm

re: #341 Backwoods_Sleuth

just go ahead and say drama queen instead of melodramatic…

The story behind why I made those here.

349 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:28:50pm

re: #312 Charles Johnson

Syrian Electronic Army Claims It’s Taken Over Twitter’s Domain (Updating)

Can you ask them to unblock me on Greenwald’s account?

350 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:28:56pm

re: #348 Gus

The story behind why I made those here.

You’re just a homophobic Republican non-dudebro-libertarian.

/// I could probably drip some more, but that’d be rude.

351 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:30:36pm
352 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:31:22pm

re: #350 klys

You’re just a homophobic Republican non-dudebro-libertarian.

/// I could probably drip some more, but that’d be rude.

Great…I need someone to explain the Dewey Decimal System to me.

353 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:36:22pm

re: #352 darthstar

Great…I need someone to explain the Dewey Decimal System to me.

That’s the remnant from when he won the election and instituted a new form of counting that revolved around increments of mals.

354 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:39:08pm

This is just so fucking disgusting.

Former Senior High teacher gets 30 days for rape of student

A Yellowstone County district judge Monday ordered a former Senior High teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide to spend 30 days in jail.

*snip*

Baugh said he listened to recorded statements given by Morales before her death and believes that while she was a troubled youth, she was “as much in control of the situation” as Rambold.

The judge also said Morales was “older than her chronological age.”

What utter fucking bullshit

355 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:40:25pm

re: #354 Bubblehead II

This is just so fucking disgusting.

Former Senior High teacher gets 30 days for rape of student

A Yellowstone County district judge Monday ordered a former Senior High teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide to spend 30 days in jail.

*snip*

Baugh said he listened to recorded statements given by Morales before her death and believes that while she was a troubled youth, she was “as much in control of the situation” as Rambold.

The judge also said Morales was “older than her chronological age.”

What utter fucking bullshit

I have words, but they can’t be printed.

356 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:46:27pm

re: #355 klys

I have words, but they can’t be printed.

I actually have to elaborate.

I have frequently been described as “mature for my age,” especially as a teenager.

I’ve also dealt with depression.

That these two factors could combine to result in a fucking rape case being treated as “no big deal” is one of the most terrible miscarriages of justice I can imagine. Spare me the pity plea of he’s “lost his marriage and house and job” and all that bullshit - ACTIONS HAVE FUCKING CONSEQUENCES.

I have lots of rage.

357 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:47:13pm

re: #350 klys

You’re just a homophobic Republican non-dudebro-libertarian.

/// I could probably drip some more, but that’d be rude.

John Cole needs to take that page down.

358 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:49:09pm

re: #357 Gus

John Cole needs to take that page down.

I will confess: my reaction to the dude-bros is probably out of proportion, but that’s because I’m fairly certain I see my ex in all of them.

359 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:00:03pm

re: #309 freetoken

Ooops, here is the original:

[Embedded content]

Those MP3s didn’t work because they’re not actually MP3s - your link goes to a PHP script for downloading an MP3. I actually fixed the URLs to skip the PHP script, and now they work.

360 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:01:25pm
361 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:06:40pm

re: #348 Gus

Ahh yet another example of why I quit going to that blog. I see I didn’t make a mistake, at all.

362 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:16:00pm

re: #345 b.d.

Somebody is seriously jacking with us.

This month:
Hotmail
Amazon
Google
NYT
more??

China gets a taste of its own medicine

Some small-scale DNS caching within local networks might reduce vulnerability of some users to attacks on our global DNS scheme. Downside is that such local DNS caching has to be done with care, because locally cached data can get out-of-date whenever IP’s are legitimately changed, as they sometimes are.

A simplistic alternative is “hardcoding” some critical (and rarely changing) IP’s into one’s hosts file.
/read it on the internet

363 urbanmeemaw  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:25:03pm

re: #361 A Mom Anon

Mom Anon, I agree with you 100%. It’s gotten incredibly ugly. I did scroll thru some of the comments though and noted that quite a few commentors are not buying the Kool Aid. But Cole’s attacks on Cesca (including a vicious tweet) are beyond the pale. I haven’t gone to the site (except via clicks on Gus’ links) in a long time and don’t miss it a bit.

364 JustMark  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:15:53pm
365 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:27:10pm

re: #12 William Barnett-Lewis

Wasn’t that the Yellow one?

No, more like the Orange Light of Avarice. Sinestro’s Yellow Lantern Corps is based on Fear, right enough, but paradoxically the setting of Fear against Will means that a being wielding a yellow ring needs a certain level of willpower and purpose that precludes DERP.

Likewise, a being holding a green ring needs to be able to feel fear in order to have the Will to overcome it.


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