CyberWar: Syrian Electronic Army Targets New York Times and Twitter

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Today a hacker gang loyal to Syrian despot Bashar al-Assad called the Syrian Electronic Army managed to take over the domain name servers for the New York Times. Wired reports: ‘Syrian Electronic Army’ Takes Down the New York Times.

There’s no evidence that the Times’ internal systems were compromised. Instead, the attackers got control of the NYTimes.com domain name this afternoon through the paper’s domain name registrar, Melbourne IT, then set it to map to a Russian hosting service delivering the message. Judging from the response on Twitter, some visitors were served a large image of the hacker group’s logo, but most just got timeout errors.

That wasn’t all. SEA also hijacked the DNS for one of Twitter’s domain names, twimg.com, which is used for serving images. Twitter’s status blog has a report: Twitter Status - Twitter Service Issue.

At 20:49 UTC, our DNS provider experienced an issue in which it appears DNS records for various organizations were modified, including one of Twitter’s domains used for image serving, twimg.com. Viewing of images and photos was sporadically impacted. By 22:29 UTC, the original domain record for twimg.com was restored. No Twitter user information was affected by this incident.

Since DNS lookup results can be cached for unpredictable amounts of time, some people are still experiencing problems. Here at LGF, we’re seeing some of these problems with embedded tweets in comments — sometimes they’re not being displayed properly because the twimg.com servers are still unreachable.

Needless to say, this is a pretty serious cyber-attack against two very large, very visible US organizations. It was probably achieved with a technique called DNS Cache Poisoning.

UPDATE at 8/27/13 4:51:27 pm

Apparently the UK branch of the Huffington Post was also hijacked.

If the SEA had really wanted to do damage, they could have set up fake websites that looked exactly like the NYT or HuffPo, and collected who knows how many usernames and passwords from people logging in to the fake websites.

That’s the insidious thing about a DNS hijack — you have no way of knowing you’re not at the real site, if the attacker goes to the trouble of preparing an authentic-looking fake.

UPDATE at 8/27/13 6:37:51 pm

OpenDNS reports that popular social sharing site ShareThis was also targeted: High Profile Domains Under Siege | OpenDNS Blog.

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441 comments
1 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:37:13pm

OK, let’s give into their demands and give them Thomas Friedman.

2 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:39:53pm

WTI and Brent prices (petroleum) have rocketed up.

There are already those who are declaring there is a conspiracy by the US (and some blaming Israel) to start another war for oil.

3 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:40:43pm

Youtube Video

4 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:41:44pm

Repost from downstairs…NYT statement:

Times Web Site Affected by External Hacking Attack

The New York Times Web site was unavailable to readers on Tuesday afternoon following an attack on the company’s domain name registrar, Melbourne IT. The attack also required employees of The Times to stop sending out sensitive e-mails.

Marc Frons, chief information officer for The New York Times Company, issued a statement at 4:20 p.m. warning employees that the disruption — which appeared to still be affecting the Web site as of 5:50 p.m. — was ” the result of a malicious external attack by the Syrian Electronic Army “or someone trying very hard to be them.” He advised employees to “be careful when sending e-mail communications until this situation is resolved.”

Several people on Twitter said they believed it was the work of the Syrian Electronic Army, a group of hackers who support President Bahar al-Assad of Syria. Matt Johansen, head of the Threat Research Center at White Hat Security, posted on Twitter that he was directed to a Syrian Web domain when he tried to access The Times’s Web site.

Until now, The Times has been spared from being hacked by the Syrian Electronic Army, which has successfully disrupted the Web operations of news organizations like The Financial Times. On Aug. 15, the group hacked The Washington Post’s Web site through a third-party service provided by a company called Outbrain. At the time, the Syrian Electronic Army also tried to hack CNN. Some information security experts said the group also appeared to be ready to hack The New York Times Web site that day.

In a post on Twitter Tuesday afternoon, The Syrian Electronic Army also said it had hacked the administrative contact information for Twitter’s domain name registry records. According to the Whois.com lookup service, the Syrian Electronic Army was listed on the entries for Twitter’s administrative name, technical name and e-mail address.

5 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:41:49pm



To get the WTI oil price, please enable Javascript.

6 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:41:49pm

re: #2 freetoken

WTI and Brent prices (petroleum) have rocketed up.

There are already those who are declaring there is a conspiracy by the US (and some blaming Israel) to start another war for oil.

[dudebro]This is just a diversion to keep us from talking about the NSA!!1![/dudebro]

7 freetoken  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:43:09pm

re: #6 b.d.

We need a “dudebro” font.

Something all sparkly and glittery, fit for a 3 year old’s birthday party.

8 thedopefishlives  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:44:53pm

re: #2 freetoken

WTI and Brent prices (petroleum) have rocketed up.

There are already those who are declaring there is a conspiracy by the US (and some blaming Israel) to start another war for oil.

I’m sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the US appears poised to drop a few cruise missiles into Syria. Nothing whatsoever.

9 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:47:15pm

Twitter statement:


twitter service issue 45 minutes ago

At 20:49 UTC, our DNS provider experienced an issue in which it appears DNS records for various organizations were modified, including one of Twitter’s domains used for image serving, twimg.com. Viewing of images and photos was sporadically impacted. By 22:29 UTC, the original domain record for twimg.com was restored. No Twitter user information was affected by this incident.

10 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:48:30pm

re: #7 freetoken

We need a “dudebro” font.

Something all sparkly and glittery, fit for a 3 year old’s birthday party.

I’m having flashbacks to the “blinking” effect you used to be able to code into webpages through Netscape.

11 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:49:36pm

re: #8 thedopefishlives

I’m sure it has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that the US appears poised to drop a few cruise missiles into Syria. Nothing whatsoever.

seems fair - we bomb them, they deny us the ability to look at ads for bulgari watches and read david brooks editorials

12 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:49:45pm

Apparently the UK branch of the Huffington Post was also hijacked.

If the SEA had really wanted to do damage, they could have set up fake websites that looked exactly like the NYT or HuffPo, and collected who knows how many usernames and passwords from people logging in to the fake websites.

That’s the insidious thing about a DNS hijack - you have absolutely no way of knowing you’re not looking at the real site, if the attacker goes to the trouble of setting up an authentic-looking fake.

13 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:53:38pm

Repost from down Stairs

This is just so fucking disgusting.

Former Senior High teacher gets 30 days for rape of student

A Yellowstone County district judge Monday ordered a former Senior High teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide to spend 30 days in jail.

*snip*

Baugh said he listened to recorded statements given by Morales before her death and believes that while she was a troubled youth, she was “as much in control of the situation” as Rambold.

The judge also said Morales was “older than her chronological age.”

What utter fucking bullshit

I need a drink or 5.

Later.

14 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:54:20pm
15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:55:35pm

re: #11 dog philosopher

seems fair - we bomb them, they deny us the ability to look at ads for bulgari watches and read david brooks editorials

if only they would block Miley Cyrus twerking…

16 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 4:58:45pm

If I’m not on the NYT website, then where the hell am I? /Quaid

17 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:00:29pm

re: #16 lawhawk

If I’m not on the NYT website, then where the hell am I? /Quaid

Assad run Barter Town

18 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:04:17pm

...

19 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:10:34pm

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Repost from down Stairs

This is just so fucking disgusting.

Former Senior High teacher gets 30 days for rape of student

A Yellowstone County district judge Monday ordered a former Senior High teacher convicted of raping a 14-year-old female student who later committed suicide to spend 30 days in jail.

*snip*

Baugh said he listened to recorded statements given by Morales before her death and believes that while she was a troubled youth, she was “as much in control of the situation” as Rambold.

The judge also said Morales was “older than her chronological age.”

What utter fucking bullshit

I need a drink or 5.

Later.

I just tweeted this.

30 days. He should lose his ability to teach legally at the very, very least.

20 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:10:34pm

God’s tweet vanished.

21 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:11:22pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

God’s tweet vanished.

That’s usually not a good sign, is it?

22 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:12:38pm

It’s amazing they are still finding these guys.

23 elizajane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:12:49pm

re: #13 Bubblehead II

Well, there were mitigating factors. For instance, the 14-year-old girl was Hispanic. The 50-year-old teacher was…. not.
So, well, obviously.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:16:14pm

oh good freakin grief…the school meals are free!

For years, health policy advocates have been attempting to address issues, in particular reducing childhood obesity rates and early onset of Type II diabetes, through adjustments in the National School Lunch Program, which was conceived in 1946.

For example, over the course of a week, the school system is directed to serve lunches that meet calorie targets of 750 to 850 per meal. Last year, the schools reported an average of 801 calories. Sodium intake must drop to 740 mg per meal within nine years. Last year, school meals averaged 1,813. Saturated fat content must be no more than 10 percent. Last year the level was reported at 6.34 percent.

Whether it is free breakfast, lunch, supper, or just something to drink, children are becoming increasingly dissatisfied and parents increasingly frustrated.

“They say it tastes like vomit,” board member Myra Mosley said — and repeated — when the issue of school milk was raised.

School meals creating a “stir”

25 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:16:46pm

re: #20 NJDhockeyfan

God’s tweet vanished.

Right. This is the last one showing on the acct, 3 hrs ago:

God ‏@TheTweetOfGod 3h

Shit’s fucked up, is what I’m sayin’.

26 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:17:36pm
27 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:19:29pm

I wonder if all the folks that call all people from the Middle East crap like “[bigoted word]s,” “camel jockeys” and others realize they are tech savvy?

I bet your average American is amazed some Syrians could even work computers. Of course, that would be forgetting a whole bunch of world history and the development of man. But your average American doesn’t need any of that useless knowledge when you just want to be a blockhead.

28 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:19:38pm

re: #23 elizajane

Well, there were mitigating factors. For instance, the 14-year-old girl was Hispanic. The 50-year-old teacher was…. not.
So, well, obviously.

And all those manly men in Montana know how slutty 14 yr old Hispanic girls are.

Bastards. She was a minor and it was statutory rape even it was “consensual”.

29 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:21:34pm

Oh brother…

30 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:23:05pm

re: #26 bratwurst

Naw. While some might consider withholding all disaster aid to those who deny climate change, that would affect constituents and folks who had no hand in getting these folks elected. Hurts the wrong people.

No, the way to deal with Coburn and other science illiterates is to vote ‘em out of office. Make their illiteracy an issue.

Note that the aquifers in Coburn’s state are running dry and ignoring conservation and drilling more wells isn’t an answer. Nor is fracking, which uses huge amounts of water that can’t be used for any other purposes thereafter.

Farmers are already feeling the effects of extreme weather. And it’s not going to get any easier for them. Especially if the politicians do everything to obstruct science and technological progress, conservation and other efforts

32 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:23:27pm

re: #29 NJDhockeyfan

Oh brother…

[Embedded content]

I think he should get the prize just to see if Russia will let him out of the country to claim it.

33 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:23:33pm

God is back…

God ‏@TheTweetOfGod 5m

I care a great deal about sports.

34 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:24:24pm

re: #29 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone can get nominated. Even you. Or me. Or Charles. Or a petulant man-child like Snowden. Just get one of your old college professors in the social sciences to do it.

Don’t mean nothing. Not a thing.

35 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:25:38pm

re: #31 ProTARDISLiberal

Syria has never stopped interfering in Lebanese affairs.

36 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:26:03pm

re: #33 Justanotherhuman

God is back…

God ‏@TheTweetOfGod 5m

I care a great deal about sports.

Saw that. It disappeared as well.

37 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:26:14pm

re: #28 Justanotherhuman

That actually makes it worse. He manipulated a troubled teen into consent.

38 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:26:40pm

re: #36 Gus

Saw that. It disappeared as well.

Wouldn’t sports be singular if it were coming from that part of the world?

39 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:26:48pm

re: #35 lawhawk

No, but it really is not helping Syria’s case on, well, anything.

40 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:26:52pm

re: #7 freetoken

We need a “dudebro” font.

Something all sparkly and glittery, fit for a 3 year old’s birthday party.

How about this?

41 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:27:34pm

Or something like this.

42 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:27:39pm

(From prev thread)
Some small-scale DNS caching within local networks might reduce vulnerability of some users to attacks on our global DNS scheme. Downside is that such local DNS caching has to be done with care, because locally cached data can get out-of-date whenever IP’s are legitimately changed, as they sometimes are.

A simplistic alternative is “hardcoding” some critical (and rarely changing) IP’s into one’s hosts file.
/read it on the internet

43 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:27:52pm

re: #37 ProTARDISLiberal

Exactly. Used his position to do it. Fucking bastard.

44 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:28:22pm

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

Or something like this.

more ponyish

45 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:28:54pm

re: #39 ProTARDISLiberal

Syria hasn’t stopped considering Lebanon part of its country (part of the old Levant).

46 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:28:58pm

re: #40 Vicious Babushka

First one.

It needs to look “hardcore” for the dudebros.

47 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:29:47pm

re: #45 lawhawk

To be fair, I have often stated a want for a Levantine Superstate, so I am not the person who should be talking here.

48 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:30:07pm
49 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:30:40pm

re: #38 b.d.

Wouldn’t sports be singular if it were coming from that part of the world?

Don’t know, but got this message at the top: “Tweet does not exist.”

50 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:31:21pm

re: #19 FemNaziBitch

I just tweeted this.

30 days. He should lose his ability to teach legally at the very, very least.

He did.

Rambold was placed on paid leave in April of that year and resigned from his teaching job three months later. He also surrendered his teaching certificate.

Also required to register as a sex offender for life.

Rambold’s criminal history includes only a traffic violation, but now he will be required to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life, the attorney said.

Waaa fucking waaa

I sure as hell hope the Prosecuting Attorney can and will appeal this travesty of a sentence.

51 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:31:29pm
52 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:31:38pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Exactly. Used his position to do it. Fucking bastard.

Guessing he’ll be in prison within a year or two.

15 years suspended means if he violates terms or commits another felony he goes directly to prison, do not pass go, do not get a pet judge to intervene.

He failed a sexual predator treatment program already. As a now-convicted sexual felon he’s required to go through the program again, this time with even more restrictions. Failure again is violation of terms.

53 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:31:54pm

re: #47 ProTARDISLiberal

To be fair, I have often stated a want for a Levantine Superstate, so I am not the person who should be talking here.

Maybe you should stop wanting things that never will transpire?

54 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:33:26pm

re: #51 Gus

Hmm. It would be interesting to view the results.

55 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:34:23pm

re: #28 Justanotherhuman

And all those manly men in Montana know how slutty 14 yr old Hispanic girls are.

Bastards. She was a minor and it was statutory rape even it was “consensual”.

No, it wasn’t consenual.

Judge G. Todd Baugh sentenced Stacey Dean Rambold to 15 years in prison, with all but 31 days suspended, for sexual intercourse without consent.

56 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:34:31pm

The fact that they didn’t do more with the DNS attack is a good sign that this is a group of kids. Not a real cyberwar battalion.

57 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:34:49pm

re: #50 Bubblehead II

He did.

Rambold was placed on paid leave in April of that year and resigned from his teaching job three months later. He also surrendered his teaching certificate.

Also required to register as a sex offender for life.

Rambold’s criminal history includes only a traffic violation, but now he will be required to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life, the attorney said.

Waaa fucking waaa

I sure as hell hope the Prosecuting Attorney can and will appeal this travesty of a sentence.

A bit of research shows he was required to go through a three year sexual offender treatment program back when all this started. It was an agreement not to prosecute on 3 counts of sexual intercourse without permission (a sort of rape) if he did the treatment.

He failed. Quit attending, entered rooms with minor females unmonitored, and several other things that were specifically prohibited.

58 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:35:17pm

re: #51 Gus

Ｇｕｓ @Gus_802

Alternate Syria strategy: bomb the entire nation for 30 days straight using high grade medical marijuana gas deployed with bomblets.
8:25 PM - 27 Aug 2013

Think of the need for the Red Cross to stock up on Oreos, Doritos and Cheetos for needed relief for the war casualties!!!

59 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:36:51pm

This is interesting:

Melbourne IT is gonna be in hot water. For a high-end DNS system this is pretty inexcusable. They should have had safeguards in place to prevent this.

60 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:36:53pm

re: #55 Bubblehead II

Which is why I put “consensual” in quotes. However, I still don’t understand why he wasn’t convicted of statutory rape, unless they don’t have a statute against it in MT, or the age is lower than 14.

61 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:40:14pm

re: #57 kirkspencer

A bit of research shows he was required to go through a three year sexual offender treatment program back when all this started. It was an agreement not to prosecute on 3 counts of sexual intercourse without permission (a sort of rape) if he did the treatment.

He failed. Quit attending, entered rooms with minor females unmonitored, and several other things that were specifically prohibited.

Hence the reason this sentence is at worst a travesty of Justice, at best, a farce.

62 compound_Idaho  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:41:16pm

re: #50 Bubblehead II

Maybe minimum sentencing laws are not always such a bad thing.

Local gal teacher got two years for doing a 14 year old boy.

63 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:41:39pm

re: #27 ObserverArt

I wonder if all the folks that call all people from the Middle East crap like “[bigoted word]s,” “camel jockeys” and others realize they are tech savvy?

I bet your average American is amazed some Syrians could even work computers. Of course, that would be forgetting a whole bunch of world history and the development of man. But your average American doesn’t need any of that useless knowledge when you just want to be a blockhead.

Sorry Charles! I did not realize certain derogatory words were auto corrected. I only used the ‘towel’ name for an example. It won’t happen again.

64 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:41:43pm

re: #52 kirkspencer

Guessing he’ll be in prison within a year or two.

15 years suspended means if he violates terms or commits another felony he goes directly to prison, do not pass go, do not get a pet judge to intervene.

He failed a sexual predator treatment program already. As a now-convicted sexual felon he’s required to go through the program again, this time with even more restrictions. Failure again is violation of terms.

I can’t laugh this one off. He should not be out in the first place. Full stop. Period.

And the mitigating factors the “judge” cited? Just …no.

I could have been that girl.

And people wonder why women and girls don’t report rape.

65 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:42:13pm

re: #60 Justanotherhuman

Which is why I put “consensual” in quotes. However, I still don’t understand why he wasn’t convicted of statutory rape, unless they don’t have a statute against it in MT, or the age is lower than 14.

Sexual intercourse without consent is the official charge in Montana for what common law calls statutory rape. See leg.mt.gov

66 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:42:35pm

How do you like this one?

67 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:43:03pm

re: #63 ObserverArt

Not a problem - your intent was obviously not malicious.

68 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:43:11pm

re: #64 klys

I can’t laugh this one off. He should not be out in the first place. Full stop. Period.

And the mitigating factors the “judge” cited? Just …no.

I could have been that girl.

And people wonder why women and girls don’t report rape.

Not laughing at it. Pretty much the only positive in an otherwise stupid situation.

69 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:43:36pm

re: #60 Justanotherhuman

Which is why I put “consensual” in quotes. However, I still don’t understand why he wasn’t convicted of statutory rape, unless they don’t have a statute against it in MT, or the age is lower than 14.

What is the Age of Consent for Sex in Montana?

In Montana, the age of consent for sex is 16 years old for females, and 18 years old for males. For homosexual conduct, the age of consent in Montana is 18, for both men and women.

70 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:43:54pm

re: #65 kirkspencer

Sexual intercourse without consent is the official charge in Montana for what common law calls statutory rape. See leg.mt.gov

Thanks. Still, a farce of a sentence.

71 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:44:11pm

Might be time to disable that old [bigoted word] filter, in fact. I’d kind of forgotten about it.

72 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:44:11pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

The Greenwald of #40 is my fave. Has a top-heavy faux-seriousness.

73 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:44:50pm

re: #68 kirkspencer

Not laughing at it. Pretty much the only positive in an otherwise stupid situation.

Oh, I know. I didn’t mean to imply you were, and I apologize if it came across that way. This case just triggers all my buttons, because I did deal with depression in high school (at 14) and was frequently described as mature for my age in terms of personality.

But I was still a teenager and I look back at some of my thinking and decisions and wonder what the fuck was I thinking, just like everyone else.

74 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:46:30pm

Oh cheeez, GG’s at it again:

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 13m

On “humanitarian interventionists” eschatonblog.com … - almost every war is justified by that rhetoric salon.com …

Or is that the SEA talking?

75 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:47:29pm

Later, lizards.

76 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:47:33pm

re: #65 kirkspencer

Sexual intercourse without consent is the official charge in Montana for what common law calls statutory rape. See leg.mt.gov

By the way (and contributing to the rage against the judge), here’s the specific element.

(3) (a) If the victim is less than 16 years old and the offender is 4 or more years older than the victim or if the offender inflicts bodily injury upon anyone in the course of committing sexual intercourse without consent, the offender shall be punished by life imprisonment or by imprisonment in the state prison for a term of not less than 4 years or more than 100 years and may be fined not more than $50,000, except as provided in 46-18-219 and 46-18-222. [my emphasis]

So what this judge did was tag him for 5 years per charge, or one year more than the minimum, for a sentence that could have led to life or 299 years.

Yeah, I’m peeved.

77 A Mom Anon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:48:57pm

re: #64 klys

Which is exactly why this happens over and over. This is a feature, not a bug. It’s DESIGNED to make it difficult, humiliating and victimizing. And to make it easy on the defendant, to make the crime victim into the criminal. It’s why rape is considered little more than a nuisance in way too many courtrooms.

This culture really needs to grow the fuck up. Our justice system won’t catch up until we do.

78 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:49:43pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

How do you like this one?

likey

79 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:54:33pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

Looks good.

80 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:56:15pm

OT:

Cruise missiles or precision strikes…

Pesky choices!

Follow the Prowlers:

en.wikipedia.org

If they move these bad boys forward, we’ll be taking down Chinless’ air defense system and sending in the strike guys to deliver JDAMs and JSOW anti-armor packages. My guess for why we will do this is to give the Syrians such a huge materiel loss (read: destroy lots and lots of really expensive stuff) that they will be hugely degraded in the fight against the Freedom Fighters/rebels/Islamists/ whatever the fuck they are, solely because they screwed the pooch and deployed nerve agents. It will also make them naked to future air strikes by anyone in the neighborhood.

Even an ophthalmologist can understand the really bad strategery in that.

Oh, and I’m hoping the strike will be before Thursday sundown. Bad form to hit ‘em on their Holy Day. Too Egyptian (see Yom Kippur, ‘73).

81 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:57:27pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

How do you like this one?

Other than the color (wingnut) looks good.

82 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 5:58:46pm

re: #81 Bubblehead II

Other than the color (wingnut) looks good.

Fluorescent green?

83 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:01:32pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

Ahhh…The Meow!

84 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:01:34pm

re: #80 austin_blue

Sounds good to me.

However, I would feel more comfortable if we took some shots at the radical rebel groups though.

85 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:01:47pm

re: #82 Justanotherhuman

Fluorescent green?

Why not.

86 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:02:29pm

re: #25 Justanotherhuman

Right. This is the last one showing on the acct, 3 hrs ago:

God ‏@TheTweetOfGod 3h

Shit’s fucked up, is what I’m sayin’.

misogynist!

/

87 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:06:32pm

High Profile Domains Under Siege | OpenDNS Blog

The attack is ongoing, folks.

88 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:06:57pm

Can you make the letters cast a shadow?

89 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:07:01pm

re: #78 b.d.

likey

Looks like Scooby Doo.

90 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:07:32pm

re: #81 Bubblehead II

Other than the color (wingnut) looks good.

How about hot pink?

91 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:08:03pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

High Profile Domains Under Siege | OpenDNS Blog

The attack is ongoing, folks.

Has someone told the Dudebros that this is what cyberterrorism looks like?

92 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:08:10pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

Looks like Scooby Doo.

My Little Pony

93 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:08:38pm

re: #84 ProTARDISLiberal

Sounds good to me.

However, I would feel more comfortable if we took some shots at the radical rebel groups though.

We use drones for that.

;-)

Conventional targets —> conventional weapon systems.

94 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:14:22pm

There are changes happening in State Legislatures regarding sex/violence crimes.

In Illiniois, among other things, the statute of limitations for child sexual assault has been removed.

and Today in Connecticut.

95 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:15:33pm

re: #87 Charles Johnson

High Profile Domains Under Siege | OpenDNS Blog

The attack is ongoing, folks.

Interesting. They aren’t very good at this. The IP address is still clean:

170.149.168.130

Hop right in and see what the NYT is reporting about itself, real time!

96 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:16:25pm

Know you know.

97 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:16:52pm

More on the hacking by SEA.

Syrian Electronic Army Apparently Hacks DNS Records Of Twitter, NYT Through Registrar Melbourne IT

techcrunch.com

“Another tweet from the account points to an outage of Twitter.co.uk, whose DNS records have also apparently been altered to refer to the SEA’s servers. The Twimg,com domain, which serves up Twitter images and avatars, also shows changes that point to servers that are apparently SEA-owned.”

98 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:19:03pm

re: #96 FemNaziBitch

Know you know.

Ouch!

“We had this patient who suffered penile fracture after running across the room and trying to penetrate his wife with a flying leap,” he says.”

99 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:19:41pm

re: #95 austin_blue

To Our Readers

Our Web site was unavailable to users in the United States for a period of time on Tuesday. The outage was the result of an external attack on our domain name registrar, and we are at work on fully restoring service. We regret if this incident has caused you any inconvenience.
— The New York Times

100 lawhawk  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:20:53pm

Looks like the SEA is more interested in causing mayhem and mischief than actually stealing data - so far. Consider that a bit of luck for users, but it still raises questions over the security at NYT, Twitter, and other companies.

101 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:22:42pm

re: #98 Justanotherhuman

I’m going to put this into the “That’s your own damn fault.” category.

102 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:27:20pm

re: #101 ProTARDISLiberal

I’m going to put this into the “That’s your own damn fault.” category.

Just the visual had me laughing my ass off. : )

103 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:27:42pm

Fuck the Syrian Electronic Army. We’ve got this guy.

Image: Internet-Warrior.jpg

104 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:28:57pm

re: #103 darthstar

Damn straight.

105 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:29:58pm

“Robertson: Gays Use Rings …” This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by CBNonline+vid.

106 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:31:30pm

Weird, disorienting night. Went to the town hall meeting of our
TPGOP representative. (She was their sweetheart a few years ago.) I dropped my plan to hassle her over her 30+ votes against Obamacare because it became obvious about 3 questions in that she is far saner than her constituents.

She’s still a blackhearted hack, and she’ll never get my vote, but she got my sympathy.

107 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:38:42pm

This is what I got when I tried to click on to a story at the NYT site:

Not Found

The requested URL /2013/08/28/world/middleeast/obama-syria-strike.html was not found on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

108 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:38:46pm

So apparently Maddow started with Bush lied got us into Iraq and now Obama is doing that again and currently has congressman with and MBA who is also car dealer talking about the constitution and a deceleration of war I imagine. He’s also a Republican.

109 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:41:25pm

Someone activate the Amish Analog Army…we’ll show these guys.re: #108 Gus

So apparently Maddow started with Bush lied got us into Iraq and now Obama is doing that again and currently has congressman with and MBA who is also car dealer talking about the constitution and a deceleration of war I imagine. He’s also a Republican.

I’m watching the World Series of Poker.

110 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:43:50pm

Nikki Haley announces re-run to huge crowd…

Image: nikki-haley-event-tweet-21.jpg

Yawn.

111 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:44:49pm

re: #108 Gus

So apparently Maddow started with Bush lied got us into Iraq and now Obama is doing that again and currently has congressman with and MBA who is also car dealer talking about the constitution and a deceleration of war I imagine. He’s also a Republican.

Anyone know if her ratings are down or up over the last few months? I can only speak for myself, but I find it a bit harder to watch her lately. Idealism is fine. But it does need to be tempered with some actual political realism and I sometimes wonder about her depth for how much is involved in a decision like this.

112 alpuz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:47:10pm

Vid’s from the the Capitol building in Madison.

This on the 26th
Youtube Video

Today:
Youtube Video

113 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:48:57pm

Limbaugh: Feminism Rooted In “Sexual Perversion”

limbaugh: just rooting

Root, Hog, Or Die!

114 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:48:57pm

Limbaugh: Feminism Rooted In “Sexual Perversion”

Of course, getting caught by US customs returning from a dirty weekend in the Dominican Republic with 29 boner pills prescribed to someone else is not perverted at all!

115 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:50:02pm

re: #111 ObserverArt

Anyone know if her ratings are down or up over the last few months? I can only speak for myself, but I find it a bit harder to watch her lately. Idealism is fine. But it does need to be tempered with some actual political realism and I sometimes wonder about her depth for how much is involved in a decision like this.

Here you go.

tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

116 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:50:41pm

re: #110 Justanotherhuman

Nikki Haley announces re-run to huge crowd…

Image: nikki-haley-event-tweet-21.jpg

Yawn.

THERE ARE STILL TWO PEOPLE IN THE SHADE!

117 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:50:55pm

re: #113 dog philosopher

Limbaugh: Feminism Rooted In “Sexual Perversion”

limbaugh: just rooting

Root, Hog, Or Die!

Or, Limbaugh: Rutting Hog.

118 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:52:17pm

re: #115 Justanotherhuman

Here’s you go.

tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

MSNBC: We’re #3! We’re #3! We’re #3!

120 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:55:57pm

Twitters without pictures is unsatisfying.
And unsettling.

121 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:56:58pm

re: #118 darthstar

MSNBC: We’re #3! We’re #3! We’re #3!

Mmmm. No.

tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com

“Despite being up year over year, for the month of August, CNN still posted its lowest-rated month in total viewers since Zucker took the reins in January 2013. After ranking ahead of MSNBC since April, CNN fell back to third place in August, falling behind both FNC and MSNBC for total day and primetime.”

122 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:57:37pm

Speaking of nerve gas…If you fart in an elevator and then it stops on another floor to let people in, moving to the other side isn’t going to stop them from thinking it was you.

123 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:58:05pm

Just wanted to make sure everyone understood that before they make the same mistake I did.

124 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:58:49pm

OMG, all the cable news networks have been hijacked by hateful morons. Wait a minute….oh. Never mind, carry on.

125 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 6:59:14pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Exclusive: Intercepted Calls Prove Syrian Army Used Nerve Gas, U.S. Spies Say | the Cable

If true, then it does certainly raise a lot of questions. Reminds me of a line from Sum of All Fears: “Mr. President, who is in control of your armed forces? “

126 dog philosopher  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:00:37pm

re: #122 darthstar

Speaking of nerve gas…If you fart in an elevator and then it stops on another floor to let people in, moving to the other side isn’t going to stop them from thinking it was you.

emissions gazeuses!

127 OhNoZombies!  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:00:48pm

re: #123 darthstar

Just wanted to make sure everyone understood that before they make the same mistake I did.

You should have looked at the people getting on the elevator with disgust.
Like, ” I know it was you, nasty.”
Lol

128 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:01:10pm

Man, Assad must own an autographed copy of the Saddam Hussein playbook.

129 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:01:12pm

re: #108 Gus

So apparently Maddow started with Bush lied got us into Iraq and now Obama is doing that again and currently has congressman with and MBA who is also car dealer talking about the constitution and a deceleration of war I imagine. He’s also a Republican.

Yet another establishment progressive who feels the need to establish her street cred by undermining a Democratic president in the most lazy, cynical way possible.

130 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:01:34pm

re: #119 Charles Johnson

Exclusive: Intercepted Calls Prove Syrian Army Used Nerve Gas, U.S. Spies Say | the Cable

Must have been the hated, useless, over-bearing NSA that’s out to get your mama’s potato salad recipe that got that intel?

131 Bear  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:02:12pm

re: #123 darthstar

Watch out. The EPA will be after you.

132 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:03:05pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, Assad must own an autographed copy of the Saddam Hussein playbook.

Spoiler alert: It ends badly.

133 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:03:25pm

re: #127 OhNoZombies!

You should have looked at the people getting on the elevator with disgust.
Like, ” I know it was you, nasty.”
Lol

Actually, I got lucky…made it to the ground floor alone, but it was close to quitting time and I usually pick up 2 or 3 Hotwire employees(they’re in my building) on the way to the first floor, where I usually complain that, because of them, I can’t get a direct flight to the ground anymore.

134 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:04:16pm
135 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:04:43pm

re: #130 Justanotherhuman

Must have been the hated, useless, over-bearing NSA that’s out to get your mama’s potato salad recipe that got that intel?

‘Zactly. Sweet comment.

136 b.d.  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:05:11pm

re: #125 Targetpractice

If true, then it does certainly raise a lot of questions. Reminds me of a line from Sum of All Fears: “Mr. President, who is in control of your armed forces? “

So it is confirmed that Assad’s guys did it from a tapped call from one Assad agency to another asking are you f’ing crazy? wtf did you just do?!!!

137 Killgore Trout  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:05:57pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, Assad must own an autographed copy of the Saddam Hussein playbook.

Why dictators like Assad just can’t quit while they’re ahead.
We’ve all seen this play out before, nothing new under the sun

But the film is a saddening bore
‘Cause she’s lived it ten times or more
And it’s about to be lived again
As they ask her to focus on

Sailors fighting in the dance hall
Oh man! look at those cavemen go
It’s the freakiest show

Youtube Video

138 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:07:02pm

re: #128 Eclectic Cyborg

Man, Assad must own an autographed copy of the Saddam Hussein playbook.

He apparently skipped the chapter where Saddam says, “Have something so valuable so that you can be ignored.”

139 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:07:52pm

re: #136 b.d.

So it is confirmed that Assad’s guys did it from a tapped call from one Assad agency to another asking are you f’ing crazy? wtf did you just do?!!!

If the story is true, then it sounds like a lot of people have been right all along, that Baby Assad is not half the leader his dad was and the military’s the one that’s been calling the shots.

140 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:07:57pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Looks nice. But it doesn’t look real.

141 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:10:22pm

re: #136 b.d.

So it is confirmed that Assad’s guys did it from a tapped call from one Assad agency to another asking are you f’ing crazy? wtf did you just do?!!!

I was talking about this today with a co-worker who is also ex-military. He was saying, “You don’t think it’s possible…”

I replied, “Can you imagine the stress that command structure is under?”

We’ll see. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if upper management didn’t know what happened initially. Fog of war. (passive voice) Shit happens. Mistakes are made.

142 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:12:47pm

Disney Channel’s splash page on “Hannah Montana”

“Hannah Montana” is a live-action comedy series that follows typical teen Miley Stewart, her older brother Jackson, songwriter and manager dad Robby Ray, and her best friend Lilly. Unbeknownst to her friends and classmates, Miley has a secret double life - she is the world famous pop star Hannah Montana. However, in the final chapter of the series, Miley questions whether she really has the best of both worlds and if she can continue with her alter-ego, Hannah Montana, or leave it behind forever to be an ordinary girl.

I do believe she answered that question on Sunday. I just don’t think Disney appreciated the answer.

143 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:13:31pm

re: #140 Gus

Looks nice. But it doesn’t look real.

Gus! You know with Photoshop the real can be more real and then there are all of those art filters and stuff.

But I agree. It does look like a painting and to me almost a bit over the top. The Painter of Light comes to mind. I’d like to see the larger original to see if it was manipulated/enhanced in any way, or if the light and the heavy moisture of a humid time of day speckled the light like that. Good stuff.

144 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:15:24pm

re: #141 austin_blue

I was talking about this today with a co-worker who is also ex-military. He was saying, “You don’t think it’s possible…”

I replied, “Can you imagine the stress that command structure is under?”

We’ll see. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if upper management didn’t know what happened initially. Fog of war. (passive voice) Shit happens. Mistakes are made.

Add in the penchant in tyrannical regimes to establish a second chain of command—SS, political commissars, etc. Never fails to screw up accountability and unified effort.

145 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:17:12pm

re: #143 ObserverArt

Gus! You know with Photoshop the real can be more real and then there are all of those art filters and stuff.

But I agree. It does look like a painting and to me almost a bit over the top. The Painter of Light comes to mind. I’d like to see the larger original to see if it was manipulated/enhanced in any way, or if the light and the heavy moisture of a humid time of day softened the light like that. Good stuff.

Or sometimes, a location is just damned naturally beautiful, and caught in the right light, seems other-worldly or tinkered with, but isn’t.

146 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:18:49pm

re: #140 Gus

Looks nice. But it doesn’t look real.

Can’t vouch for the photo - it could be a composite - but the temple’s very real.

Image: ZZ5B9AB807.jpg

147 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:19:33pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

dunno. For some reason it’s not loading for me.

148 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:22:41pm

Just learned our neighbor’s daughter got hit by a car this afternoon. No word on how she is right now.

149 darthstar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:23:38pm

re: #148 Kragar

Just learned our neighbor’s daughter got hit by a car this afternoon. No word on how she is right now.

Shit, man…positive thoughts to your neighbor.

150 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:25:04pm

re: #144 Decatur Deb

Add in the penchant in tyrannical regimes to establish a second chain of command—SS, political commissars, etc. Never fails to screw up accountability and unified effort.

Perhaps even more relevant, one of the biggest gripes I’ve heard about the Syrian military launching those missiles is that it would be just rock dumb to do it when the UN inspectors were coming to town to investigate earlier, similar allegations.

And then it flashed:

The Alewives (sic) make up 5% of the Syrian populace. There must be mid-level officers (tribal/Shiite/Sunni thing) who don’t like them very much at all, and had the ability to launch the attack with enough useful idiots. What better way to bring the hated Alewives down?

It’s like reading Dune again. Circles within circles. But from looking at various sources, it appears to be par for the course in Middle East tribal conflict.

151 Bear  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:26:27pm

With respect to pictures, I wish Charles would again post some o the ones he has taken and hopefully still does.
Also miss his stories of the bike rides he takes.

Any chance Charles?

152 ObserverArt  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:26:43pm

re: #145 Justanotherhuman

Or sometimes, a location is just damned naturally beautiful, and caught in the right light, seems other-worldly or tinkered with, but isn’t.

Agreed. I’m a graphic artist and the tools today, both digital image capture and then the enhancement tools that Photoshop and the like offer just allows so much. So, I find images interesting and challenging.

I also am old enough to have worked in a darkroom and have a complete analog based graphic arts background. I wonder what the old photogs would think about the stuff available today…and no nasty acidic chemicals.

Then I also wonder what Beethoven would have done with Protools, a Kurzweil keyboard/processor, a Les Paul, and a computer.

153 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:27:09pm

re: #150 austin_blue

yes. If only there were some way to be a fly on the wall at their G3 briefings.

154 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:31:22pm

re: #31 ProTARDISLiberal

Oh look, Syria was behind some stuff recently in Lebanon.

No surprise. Assad badly needs killing,

155 kirkspencer  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:31:36pm

re: #148 Kragar

Just learned our neighbor’s daughter got hit by a car this afternoon. No word on how she is right now.

may it be minor

156 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:31:41pm

re: #153 Decatur Deb

yes. If only there were some way to be a fly on the wall at their G3 briefings.

Maybe there is.

;-)

I bet Eddie Snow knows…

157 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:32:37pm

re: #154 Dark_Falcon

No surprise. Assad badly needs killing,

And there are plenty of factions in Syria that are willing to do it. It’s not up to us to ensure that Assad meets a bloody end.

158 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:33:47pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

Can’t vouch for the photo - it could be a composite - but the temple’s very real.

Image: ZZ5B9AB807.jpg

Yeah, with some simple PS filters it’s easy to change the original image. Dodge or burn tools. My simplest was always to mix in a cross hatch layer with an original images. Could do a watercolor or oil color layer. Was looking at some other pics of the pagoda and it’s rather spectacular.

159 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:35:41pm

re: #157 Lidane

And there are plenty of factions in Syria that are willing to do it. It’s not up to us to ensure that Assad meets a bloody end.

But our taking him down might well help end the killing. I don’t like the idea of our doing nothing after he launched that damn gas attack and now this cyber shit.

160 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:35:51pm

Image: shwedagon_pagoda_by_pyeayenyein-d4gxd7x.jpg

161 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:38:38pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

But our taking him down might well help end the killing. I don’t like the idea of our doing nothing after he launched that damn gas attack and now this cyber shit.

Nope. Just puts another set of killers on top of the pile.

And the cyberattack is rinky-dinky-doo.

Now, if they had knocked out CentComm….

162 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:39:52pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

But our taking him down might well help end the killing.

Or speed it up, who knows? With Assad gone desperate Alawite officers might poison the entire country, then the Alawites could be exterminated in the backlash.

Anyway there’s an executive order against political assassinations so I’m not sure why people keep bringing it up as an option.

163 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:40:11pm

re: #161 austin_blue

Nope. Just puts another set of killers on top of the pile.

And the cyberattack is rinky-dinky-doo.

Now, if they had knocked out CentComm….

First you compromise enemy infrastructure, next you use those targets to launch the real attacks.

164 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:40:29pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

But our taking him down might well help end the killing. I don’t like the idea of our doing nothing after he launched that damn gas attack and now this cyber shit.

Or killing him just puts one of his generals in charge, the fighting continues, and now there’s even less reason to cooperate with the rest of the world in trying to bring some sort of resolution to the fighting.

165 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:42:35pm

re: #162 goddamnedfrank

Or speed it up, who knows? With Assad gone desperate Alawite officers might poison the entire country, then the Alawites could be exterminated in the backlash.

Anyway there’s an executive order against political assassinations so I’m not sure why people keep bringing it up as an option.

Then repeal the the order. It’s a poor order anyhow. Better to put scumbag tyrants on notice that we’ll kill them if we must.

166 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:46:00pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Then repeal the the order. It’s a poor order anyhow. Better to put scumbag tyrants on notice that we’ll kill them if we must.

You really believe that’s going to go over well? The US ripping up an EO that’s been on the books for decades, making it official US policy that heads of state we disagree with can and will be executed at will?

167 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:46:35pm

Sorry if I’m being rather bloody minded where Assad is concerned, but his faction’s actions have seriously pissed me off to the point I’m willing to take some risks to be rid of those assholes.

168 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:47:09pm

re: #165 Dark_Falcon

Then repeal the the order. It’s a poor order anyhow. Better to put scumbag tyrants on notice that we’ll kill them if we must.

I’m trying to think of a more simplistic argument, but it’s just not coming to me.

169 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:49:46pm

re: #168 goddamnedfrank

I’m trying to think of a more simplistic argument, but it’s just not coming to me.

“DROP A ROCK ON HIM!”

171 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:52:34pm
Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.

The person/group that replaces Assad’s regime is virtually guaranteed to be extreme islamist in outlook. There very well may not be any good outcomes, so we should stop pretending that there are any good options.

172 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:54:56pm

re: #170 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Fox Wonders What’s Eroding Our Beaches

Ha, another FAIL by Obama! He promised he could heal the waters and he can’t. He lied to Real America yet again!

173 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:55:42pm

re: #112 alpuz

Vid’s from the the Capitol building in Madison.

This on the 26th
[Embedded content]

Today:
[Embedded content]

Is it just me? All of the youtube postings here today are just a black rectangle w nothing at all. I can click through to see them on youtube, but that is it.
Chrome on windows 8

174 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:56:46pm

re: #170 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Fox Wonders What’s Eroding Our Beaches

It’s not climate change — Gilligan’s just been moving the measuring stick again.

175 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:58:32pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

But our taking him down might well help end the killing.

Sure. Just like our overthrow of Saddam demoralized the Iraqis, allowing us to coast to victory. Or like how our killing of Osama bin Laden led to the end of Al Qaeda.

Oh. Wait.

176 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 7:59:03pm

So Michigan’s legislature just voted in favor of accepting ACA Medicaid expansion dollars. Seems like, as the clock ticks down and the deadline looms for when that money disappears, the “resolute” red states are jumping to get some of it.

177 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:00:49pm

re: #176 Targetpractice

So Michigan’s legislature just voted in favor of accepting ACA Medicaid expansion dollars. Seems like, as the clock ticks down and the deadline looms for when that money disappears, the “resolute” red states are jumping to get some of it.

Especially in Blue States like Michigan.

178 Lidane  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:03:07pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Sorry if I’m being rather bloody minded where Assad is concerned, but his faction’s actions have seriously pissed me off to the point I’m willing to take some risks to be rid of those assholes.

There are at least nine factions in Syria and we don’t like most of them. Killing Assad just emboldens the rest and causes the US more problems than it’s worth.

Step back from all the macho caveman bullshit that the right is bleating these days and THINK. There are no good options in Syria. We don’t like most of the people fighting amongst each other. There’s no strategic reason for us to engage Syria. Yes, the chemical attacks are repugnant, but after a decade plus of being eyeball deep in Iraq we can’t just go starting another goddamn war in the Middle East.

179 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:03:35pm

re: #177 austin_blue

Especially in Blue States like Michigan.

It’s hilarious.

2010: “The GOP believes the ACA unconstitutional and will not agree to implement it.”
2013: “SHOW US THE MONEY!”

180 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:03:49pm

re: #167 Dark_Falcon

Sorry if I’m being rather bloody minded where Assad is concerned, but his faction’s actions have seriously pissed me off to the point I’m willing to take some risks to be rid of those assholes.

Assad is a piece of shit, but it’s this “Kill ‘em all, let God sort ‘em out” mentality that got us into the shitstorm that is known as the second Iraq war.

It’s also real easy for one to fantasize about “taking the risk” when it’s other people’s lives on the line.

181 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:04:05pm

Sorry, everyone. I’ve just been dealing with so much pain and frustration lately that it’s seeping out. I shouldn’t let it effect my judgement.

182 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:04:15pm

re: #178 Lidane

There are at least nine factions in Syria and we don’t like most of them. Killing Assad just emboldens the rest and causes the US more problems than it’s worth.

Step back from all the macho caveman bullshit that the right is bleating these days and THINK. There are no good options in Syria. We don’t like most of the people fighting amongst each other. There’s no strategic reason for us to engage Syria. Yes, the chemical attacks are repugnant, but after a decade plus of being eyeball deep in Iraq we can’t just go starting another goddamn war in the Middle East.

Thank you.

183 alpuz  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:08:05pm

re: #173 blueraven

Dunno know. It worked for me when I posted it. I know Charles was testing some youtube related stuff earlier. So there may be an issue.

As far as Wisconsin goes, things are heating up a bit in the Capitol. This is another vid from the 26th. From what I’ve read this is why the police & firefighters that are not part of the Capitol police are starting to show up.

Youtube Video

184 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:08:06pm

Is a non-fly zone even feasible? I like to think that with a Democratic administration, we can hope for a little more competence, but no, I don’t see any good options.

Even if the US does do the right thing, I halfway expect president Rand Paul to royally fuck up everything in four years.

185 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:10:08pm

re: #178 Lidane

There are at least nine factions in Syria and we don’t like most of them. Killing Assad just emboldens the rest and causes the US more problems than it’s worth.

Step back from all the macho caveman bullshit that the right is bleating these days and THINK. There are no good options in Syria. We don’t like most of the people fighting amongst each other. There’s no strategic reason for us to engage Syria. Yes, the chemical attacks are repugnant, but after a decade plus of being eyeball deep in Iraq we can’t just go starting another goddamn war in the Middle East.

You are exactly right, and we are going to smash portions of the Syrian military anyway. And they deserve it. You just can’t thumb your nose at the West and the Geneva Conventions that way, that blatantly, and expect to walk away la-dee-dah. And I have a sneaking suspicion that Assad was as surprised as anyone that his military gassed those civs. His military is not a single team.

186 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:10:50pm

re: #178 Lidane

There are at least nine factions in Syria and we don’t like most of them. Killing Assad just emboldens the rest and causes the US more problems than it’s worth.

Step back from all the macho caveman bullshit that the right is bleating these days and THINK. There are no good options in Syria. We don’t like most of the people fighting amongst each other. There’s no strategic reason for us to engage Syria. Yes, the chemical attacks are repugnant, but after a decade plus of being eyeball deep in Iraq we can’t just go starting another goddamn war in the Middle East.

Also, it came out this week that we not only knew about Saddam’s use of chemical weapons in the 80’s but that we encouraged their use:

The U.S. knew about, and in one case helped, Iraq’s chemical weapons attacks against Iran in the 1980’s, according to recently declassified CIA documents obtained by Foreign Policy. Their detailed timeline, also constructed with the aid of interviews with former foreign intelligence officials, indicates that the U.S. secretly had evidence of Iraqi chemical attacks in 1983. The evidence, FP writes, is “tantamount to an official American admission of complicity in some of the most gruesome chemical weapons attacks ever launched.”

What’s really nice is that the Bush administration just sat on these docs while hypocritically citing Saddam’s prior use of gas as justification for the 2003 invasion.

187 blueraven  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:14:47pm

re: #183 alpuz

Dunno know. It worked for me when I posted it. I know Charles was testing some youtube related stuff earlier. So there may be an issue.

As far as Wisconsin goes, things are heating up a bit in the Capitol. This is another vid from the 26th. From what I’ve read this is why the police & firefighters that are not part of the Capitol police are starting to show up.

[Embedded content]

OK thanks…I guess its just me. But embedded videos are working for me on other blog sites.

188 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:15:25pm

re: #90 Vicious Babushka

How about hot pink?

Works for me on several levels.

189 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:17:18pm

re: #188 Bubblehead II

Works for me on several levels.

Ditto.

190 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:18:15pm

re: #184 Carlos Danger

Is a non-fly zone even feasible? I like to think that with a Democratic administration, we can hope for a little more competence, but no, I don’t see any good options.

Sure it’s possible. It would require knocking out the Syrian Air Defense System, which is robust but shallow. It would take a day or so to turn it into a pile of dust.

191 bratwurst  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:18:26pm
192 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:18:36pm

Image: 5O7x2xb.jpg

Beans are the heart of war.

193 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:20:39pm

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

Also, why hasn’t this admission gotten more play? Have we just become this cynical, did most people just assume the Reagan administration was complicit in Iraq’s use of chemical weapon strikes and then conveniently forget this fact during the entire Bush administration

I get that a lot of the people who supported the drive to invade Iraq now understand how wrong and stupid that was, but it seems like there’s always been some genuine outrage missing. You were lied to, blatantly, so that by your assent thousands of people could be killed and horribly injured. From where I sit that should be a gigantic piss off. I sometimes see the shame, and that’s nice, but where’s the rage?

194 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:20:44pm

re: #191 bratwurst

[Embedded content]

A reflection on journalism or the stupidity of the American people?

We report, you decide!

195 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:21:41pm

re: #192 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Image: 5O7x2xb.jpg

Beans are the heart of war.

Amateurs worry about tactics, professionals worry about logistics.

196 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:02pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

I thought it was already known that we’d provided them with targeting data while knowing they were using chemical weapons, yeah. I brought it up in the run-up to the Iraq war when talking with people.

We really fucked the pooch from both ends on that one. Cartoonishly villainous.

197 Bubblehead II  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:15pm

Night Lizards. May the Diety of your choice smile down upon you. See you in the morning

198 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:29pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

Also, why hasn’t this admission gotten more play? Have we just become this cynical, did most people just assume the Reagan administration was complicit in Iraq’s use of chemical weapon strikes and then conveniently forget this fact during the entire Bush administration

I get that a lot of the people who supported the drive to invade Iraq now understand how wrong and stupid that was, but it seems like there’s always been some genuine outrage missing. You were lied to, blatantly, so that by your assent thousands of people could be killed and horribly injured. From where I sit that should be a gigantic piss off. I sometimes see the shame, and that’s nice, but where’s the rage?

Because we wanted to turn him into Satan prior to the 2003 invasion? Or was that 1991?

Whatever. Bygones.

199 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:22:58pm

re: #195 Kragar

Amateurs worry about tactics, professionals worry about logistics.

I like how they keep up with the military analogy for the first two steps and then just give up on it.

200 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:25:13pm

re: #199 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I like how they keep up with the military analogy for the first two steps and then just give up on it.

“USA! US— Fuck this, just go grow some beans.”

201 jamesfirecat  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:26:47pm

re: #169 Kragar

“DROP A ROCK ON HIM!”

It was a big rock…

202 jaunte  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:26:54pm

Oil punches past $110 as Syria strike fears rise

With the U.S. weighing a possible strike against Syrian government, the Arab League on Tuesday called for an international response to the alleged gas attack on civilians, though they didn’t specifically endorse a unilateral U.S. action.

Meanwhile, a Syrian opposition coalition said in a statement Tuesday that the government had used phosphorus and napalm bombs against civilians in rural Aleppo a day earlier, Reuters reported, adding the claims couldn’t be verified.

Société Générale’s global head of oil research Michael Wittner wrote Tuesday that under the bank’s base-case scenario, in which an attack begins in the next week, Brent crude could rise by another $5 to $10, sending it to the $120-$125 a barrel level.

Under SocGen’s “upside scenario,” which includes “a significant supply disruption in Iraq or elsewhere,” Brent could hit $150.

203 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:31:36pm

re: #196 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I thought it was already known that we’d provided them with targeting data while knowing they were using chemical weapons, yeah. I brought it up in the run-up to the Iraq war when talking with people.

I’d heard reports of that and repeated them at the time. But this week we now know for certain that the Bush administration was sitting on documents that proved our complicity in Saddam’s use of chemical weapons. It’s now an indisputable fact that we were encouraging their use because Iran was the bogey man du jure and Saddam was our guy.

I don’t know, maybe people are just tired, maybe there’s just a finite reservoir of outrage available and it’s all used up. But if it were me, and I’d supported such an obvious and enormous cluster fuck because the guys in charge just kept lying to me, over and over again, yeah, I’d be pretty fucking pissed off right now.

204 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:32:11pm

re: #202 jaunte

Oil punches past $110 as Syria strike fears rise

$4/gal, here we come. Just in time for Labor Day.

205 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:37:17pm

re: #191 bratwurst

To be fair, “climate change” would be the more appropriate search term, and I especially expect the combined results to dwarf the twerking. Also, I suspect there is a time limit on results.

That being said, I am scared to search because I don’t want to know if I am wrong.

206 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:38:22pm

re: #193 goddamnedfrank

Also, why hasn’t this admission gotten more play? Have we just become this cynical, did most people just assume the Reagan administration was complicit in Iraq’s use of chemical weapon strikes and then conveniently forget this fact during the entire Bush administration

I get that a lot of the people who supported the drive to invade Iraq now understand how wrong and stupid that was, but it seems like there’s always been some genuine outrage missing. You were lied to, blatantly, so that by your assent thousands of people could be killed and horribly injured. From where I sit that should be a gigantic piss off. I sometimes see the shame, and that’s nice, but where’s the rage?

I hurt too much and I’m too harried by my life for any rage.

207 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:39:04pm

re: #205 klys

To be fair, “climate change” would be the more appropriate search term, and I especially expect the combined results to dwarf the twerking. Also, I suspect there is a time limit on results.

That being said, I am scared to search because I don’t want to know if I am wrong.

Climate change - 1,630,000

208 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:39:06pm

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

I hurt too much and I’m too harried by my life for any rage.

All it takes for me is one story like Bubblehead posted earlier and I’m set.

That being said, Reagan was well before my time, even if Bush wasn’t. >.>

209 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:40:10pm

re: #207 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Climate change - 1,630,000

So greater than 10x.

That being said, that Miley twerking garnered even 10% of the climate change articles is depressing in and of itself.

210 Political Atheist  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:41:26pm

re: #140 Gus

Looks nice. But it doesn’t look real.

HDR maybe.

211 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:09pm

Gun-Loving, Libtard-Hating Police Chief Accused of Threatening City Official

This clown is an endless bag of derps.

212 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:14pm

Damn the cookie game. They added achievements. And more upgrades.

And if you don’t know, I’m doing you a favor by not linking.

213 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:20pm

Michael Jackson - 13,200,000

214 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:48pm

re: #213 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Michael Jackson - 13,200,000

Hi, I managed depressed enough already without that.

215 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:42:56pm

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Sorry, everyone. I’ve just been dealing with so much pain and frustration lately that it’s seeping out. I shouldn’t let it effect my judgement.

If you’re dealing with that much pain, you need to talk to your doctor because your treatment plan isn’t working, DF. Trust me, I know this all too well from a gift from my time in Uncle Sam’s bluecoats. Sometime I’ll tell the story of that M2 Browning and my back but the simple reality is this: Make the bastich treat your pain appropriately or find a different provider.

You’re a good man Charlie Brown er, DF. Illegitimi non carborundum seems appropo right now.

216 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:43:59pm

re: #214 klys

Hi, I managed depressed enough already without that.

Ok, I’ll stop.
;)

217 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:49:08pm

re: #216 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Ok, I’ll stop.
;)

If Britney Spears and an umbrella is higher than climate change, I declare there to be no hope for humanity.

218 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:50:49pm

re: #217 klys

If Britney Spears and an umbrella is higher than climate change, I declare there to be no hope for humanity.

Join the club, we’re printing t-shirts.

219 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:51:09pm

Oh wow, who’s the maniac at Yahoo who decided that baseball scores and standings should be displayed in three separate scrolling columns?!!

Mein gott man

220 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:51:32pm

re: #196 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It really shows how far in the depths Reagan was on a moral level.

He is a contender for worst president in the 20th Century.

Iran-Contra made Watergate look tiny by comparison.

221 Kragar  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:51:51pm

And the new Lex Luthor will be…

Bryan Cranston.

And I’m perfectly OK with that.

222 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:53:07pm

re: #218 Targetpractice

Join the club, we’re printing t-shirts.

I’d prefer a shot-glass, thanks. The better to be stumbling drunk when the end comes in.

223 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:55:27pm

re: #221 Kragar

And the new Lex Luthor will be…

Bryan Cranston.

And I’m perfectly OK with that.

LexCorp Brand Crystal Meth. The purest meth you’ll ever smoke!

//

224 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:59:09pm

Watching the Mythbuster disclaimer on why you shouldn’t tape someone up with duct tape is great.

225 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 8:59:24pm

Meanwhile, back in the US.

226 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:00:29pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Is this more or less embarrassing than that ER visit when you have explain to the doctor what the potato is doing there?

//

227 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:01:43pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, back in the US.

[Embedded content]

How does one explain that to the cops? “I was trying to kill that damned raccoon and he pulled a gun on me!!”

228 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:02:45pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

This…sounds like something I need to phone my family about just to make sure

229 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:05:57pm

re: #228 SpaceJesus

That resembles something?

230 Carlos Danger  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:06:02pm

re: #227 Targetpractice

How does one explain that to the cops? “I was trying to kill that damned raccoon and he pulled a gun on me!!”

Rocky had come equipped with a gun
To shoot off the legs of his rival…

231 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:06:13pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Nom nom nom porcupine.

Apparently my grandmother held the flashlight for it.

Thanks, Grandma.

232 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:07:04pm
233 jaunte  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:08:10pm

Ahm…
pocho.com

234 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:09:19pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, back in the US.

[Embedded content]

I am reminded of one night, rather long ago, when I was going up to bed on a hot summer night and heard through the open window a commotion in the chicken coop. I yelled for my father and mother and the three of us ran down and out the back door of the farm house. My father, flashlight in hand, poked into the chicken coop and saw a skunk clutching a chicken and he yelled “Give me my ax!”. So we did! And the skunk left this plane of existence, leaving us to pluck and dress the previously mentioned untimely deceased hen.

Now those of you that know a bit about skunks may well be wondering at this point. Said skunk was pointing away from all of us at the moment of it’s death and the loosening of it’s bowels. We didn’t know but our neighbors soon did that the scent of it wafted into their bedroom window shortly after Mr. Skunk’s passing much to their regret… ;)

235 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:09:53pm

re: #232 Amory Blaine

[Embedded content]

Is Nikki still competing with Jindal these days for lowest polling Republican gov?

236 Mattand  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:13:15pm

re: #211 Kragar

Gun-Loving, Libtard-Hating Police Chief Accused of Threatening City Official

This clown is an endless bag of derps.

Makes you wonder how many citizens he’s threatened.

This guy is Ruby Ridge, Part Deux, in the making.

237 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:13:55pm

re: #215 William Barnett-Lewis

If you’re dealing with that much pain, you need to talk to your doctor because your treatment plan isn’t working, DF. Trust me, I know this all too well from a gift from my time in Uncle Sam’s bluecoats. Sometime I’ll tell the story of that M2 Browning and my back but the simple reality is this: Make the bastich treat your pain appropriately or find a different provider.

You’re a good man Charlie Brown er, DF. Illegitimi non carborundum seems appropo right now.

I just hope I’m not Charlie Brown, but I’ve got a plan to avoid being that: I’m gonna turn that field goal try into a fake kick and grab the ball right out of Lucy’s hands. ;)

238 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:17:34pm

re: #237 Dark_Falcon

I just hope I’m not Charlie Brown, but I’ve got a plan to avoid being that: I’m gonna turn that field goal try into a fake kick and grab the ball right out of Lucy’s hands. ;)

Works for me. Just remember the rest of the comment, eh?

239 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:17:50pm

re: #229 ProTARDISLiberal

I could see my uncle’s dad doing this

240 ProTARDISLiberal  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:18:41pm

re: #239 SpaceJesus

And he lives in Connecticut?

241 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:22:10pm

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

But our taking him down might well help end the killing. I don’t like the idea of our doing nothing after he launched that damn gas attack and now this cyber shit.

Worked so well in Iraq.

242 palomino  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:22:52pm

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, back in the US.

[Embedded content]

Who the hell “confronts” a raccoon? What, was it wearing a hoodie?

Raccoons aren’t friendly little kitties, but they really don’t warrant confronting with firearms. Of course there are exceptions, but not many. Sorry the guy shot himself, but funny as hell.

243 BongCrodny  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:23:25pm

re: #221 Kragar

And the new Lex Luthor will be…

Bryan Cranston.

And I’m perfectly OK with that.

Acting-wise, yeah. Definitely.

“Blockbuster action film”-wise, not so certain.

The Total Recall remake with Colin Farrell? The climactic fight scene at the end of the movie?

Ew.

244 Gus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:26:06pm
245 GlutenFreeJesus  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:30:21pm

re: #192 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Image: 5O7x2xb.jpg

Beans are the heart of war.

Beans. The musical fruit. The more you eat, the more you toot!

246 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:31:35pm

re: #238 William Barnett-Lewis

Works for me. Just remember the rest of the comment, eh?

Will do.

247 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:36:27pm

OT Drive-by - Next time someone starts hyperventilating about the NSA & privacy, especially if they’re doing it on FB, send them this:

Could social media impact your credit?

Traditional credit score models look at typical signs of creditworthiness including salary, length of employment and past payment history. New credit scoring methodology is stepping beyond the status quo and examining an applicant’s social media profile and even nitpicking the application, itself. Did you forget to use capital letters for proper nouns? If so, you lose a few points. Or, are you an all-caps kind of guy? If so, that’s a few more dings to your credit score.

If you think I’m joking, I’m not. When I read a story on CNNMoney.com, Facebook friends could change your credit score, I had to double-check to make sure I didn’t accidentally end up on The Onion.

“One such company, Lenddo, determines if you’re friends on Facebook with someone who was late paying back a loan to Lenddo. If so, that’s bad news for you. It’s even worse news if the delinquent friend is someone you frequently interact with. “It turns out humans are really good at knowing who is trustworthy and reliable in their community,” said Jeff Stewart, a co-founder and CEO of Lenddo. “What’s new is that we’re now able to measure through massive computing power.” […]

248 Amory Blaine  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:46:30pm

re: #112 alpuz

Vid’s from the the Capitol building in Madison.

This on the 26th
[Embedded content]

Here’s a better view from above.

Youtube Video

249 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 9:49:12pm

re: #245 GlutenFreeJesus

Beans. The musical fruit. The more you eat, the more you toot!

Family legend tells of the time where, after a meal including lots of beans, two of my great uncles set off the gas detector in the basement.

250 klys  Tue, Aug 27, 2013 10:19:59pm

Any episode that involves the vomit chair is a good episode of Mythbusters.

251 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:30:35am

Some wingnut is derping at me on Twitter:

RWNJ: U LIBRULZ WERR ALL AGAINST TEH IRAQ WAR BUT NOW U WANT TO GO TO WAR WITH SYRIA BECAUSE OBAMA!!11!!

VB: I am against going to war with Syria.

RWNJ: ALL U LEFTISTS ARE RATIONALIZING A WAR WITH SYRIA BUT U WERE ALL AGAINST BUSH.

VB: I do not want a war with Syria and none of the “Leftists” that I know want one either.

RWNJ: RIGHT BUT THE ORIGINAL POST WAS THAT THIS WAR IS NO DIFFERENT FROM IRAQ, BUT BECAUSE ITS OBAMA, LEFTISTS RATIONALIZE IT!!11!!!1

(The “original post” being, of course, some RWNJ crap about ALL LIBRULZ WANT A WAR WITH SYRIA HURR HURR)

252 McSpiff  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:32:24am

I’m on a conference call that makes the company from Dilbert look like a lean, mean machine.

253 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:39:24am

@AlArabiya_Eng tweeted:

AlArabiya_Eng
#BreakingNews: The #UnitedStates has ruled out unilateral military action against #Syria

254 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:54:53am

Petition to remove judge in Montana rape case:

change.org

255 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:18:37am

re: #186 goddamnedfrank

Is that what that picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking Saddam’s hand is about?

And to Dark Falcon: If you haven’t arranged it yet, PLEASE GO BACK TO THE DOCTOR. I don’t know what happened(your leg? I don’t know what the issue is though, I missed it),but things should be getting better by now. Just go, before this develops into a secondary problem that may be worse than the first.

I nearly lost my husband a few years back because he had one problem that developed into serious heart disease because he refused to go beyond his regular doctor and get specialized treatment. Do IT. Please. I may rarely agree with you about a lot of things, but this place wouldn’t be as lively sometimes without you. Go. Back. To. The. Doctor. Getting a second opinion isn’t a bad idea either.

256 Flounder  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:30:01am

With all this cyber war crap going in, I sure picked a crappy time to lay on the beach! Vacationing on the Outer Banks, NC this week, absolutely beautiful!
Good morning Lizards!

257 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:30:39am

Where is VB? Rick Snyder is on Morning Joke. Subject: Cleaning Up Blight.

“Detroit City Future” plan being discussed—woops, only briefly.

This guy is full of bullet points. Leaving pensions up to the fate of bankruptcy court. No specifics on anything, of substance.

Well, what do you expect out of Morning Joke?

258 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:33:24am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

Where is VB? Rick Snyder is on Morning Joke. Subject: Cleaning Up Blight.

“Detroit City Future” plan being discussed—woops, only briefly.

This guy is full of bullet points. Leaving pensions up to the fate of bankruptcy court. No specifics on anything, of substance.

Well, what do you expect out of Morning Joke?

Rick Snyder is a Koch tool. “Cleaning up blight” he can start with the toxic petcoke dump that his Lords the Kochs just left in a vacant lot provided to them by the Bridge Troll.

259 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:40:07am

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

Rick Snyder is a Koch tool. “Cleaning up blight” he can start with the toxic petcoke dump that his Lords the Kochs just left in a vacant lot provided to them by the Bridge Troll.

Of course, he wasn’t quizzed on that one.

Just wonder whose pals are going to get the contracts for tearing down the “blight” and who will profit from what’s put in its stead? At least some of that has to be valuable real estate.

260 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:43:47am

re: #258 Vicious Babushka

I saw the commercial for this show last night and my first thought was “Oh, just what Detroit needs, Morning Joe showing up with their “ideas” on how to make Detroit better and their diagnosis as to what the problems are”. I couldn’t bear to even flip through channels to see what great solutions they came up with. I officially gave up on morning “news” a year or so ago. Every once in awhile I’ll turn on CSPAN and catch a little Washington Journal, but usually wingnut callers ruin it with their stupid and I end up turning it off after a couple minutes.

261 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:51:43am

Report: George Zimmerman’s wife Shellie will plead guilty to misdemeanor perjury charge in deal for 1 year of probation - @renestutzman

Misdemeanor? She’s a felony herself. Everyone in the world knew she was lying about their “finances” and pleas of indigency after they received many thousands of dollars from “fans” of Z and used it not for his “legal defense” but for their own aggrandizement and paying of personal bills.

And now Z wants the People to pay the extra $2-300K in legal fees to O’Mara? If the Zs hadn’t blown the $200K+ they collected, they could have used it to pay that, for what it was intended.

What a racket they had going.

262 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:56:00am

re: #260 A Mom Anon

I saw the commercial for this show last night and my first thought was “Oh, just what Detroit needs, Morning Joe showing up with their “ideas” on how to make Detroit better and their diagnosis as to what the problems are”. I couldn’t bear to even flip through channels to see what great solutions they came up with. I officially gave up on morning “news” a year or so ago. Every once in awhile I’ll turn on CSPAN and catch a little Washington Journal, but usually wingnut callers ruin it with their stupid and I end up turning it off after a couple minutes.

The wingnut meme about Detroit is HURR HURR DEMOCRAT MAYORS & YOONYUNZ RUINED DETROIT!!!1111!!! So of course their “solution” is to turn it over to the likes of the Kochs and the Bridge Troll.

I had an exchange with a RWNJ on Twitter a couple of weeks ago that went something like this:

RWNJ: HURR HURR DEMOCRATS RUINED DETROIT!!11!! LOOK AT HOW SUCCESSFUL HOUSTON TX!!!!

VB: Houston TX has a mayor who is not only Democrat but Gay!

RWNJ: HURR HURR BUT TEXAS HAS GOP GOVERNERZ!!11!!

VB: Michigan also has GOP governors.

RWNJ: HURR HURR BUT TEXAS HAS MOAR GOP!!11!!

VB: (Provides a link showing that MI has had MOAR GOP governors than TX)

RWNJ: HURR HURR BUT IT TEH YOONYUNZ!!!1!!!

*FACE PALM*

263 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:56:39am

Well, of course!

@ajamlive tweeted:
ajamlive
Syrian deputy foreign minister says US, Britain, France helped ‘terrorists’ use chemical weapons in #Syria’s conflict-@Reuters #breaking

It was a plot, I tell ya, and the Syrian govt is using the age-old defense of reverse “victimhood”, the ploy of cowards who won’t face up to their own guilt.

264 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 5:56:42am

Heh. No, this isn’t just a Heh. It’s a LMAO and the truth hurts Heh!

Youtube Video

265 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:04:16am

The link between civil and economic rights

washingtonpost.com

“Of all the commemorations of the March on Washington, the one that will best capture its spirit isn’t really a commemoration at all. Thursday, one day after the 50th anniversary of the great march, fast-food and retail workers in as many as 35 cities will stage a one-day strike demanding higher wages.

“Sadly, the connection between the epochal demonstration of 1963 and a fast-food strike in 2013 couldn’t be more direct.”

266 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:05:52am

@ajamlive tweeted:
ajamlive
Israeli official says the government has ordered a limited call-up of reservists to face #Syria threat-@AP #breaking

267 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:13:11am

re: #265 Justanotherhuman

The link between civil and economic rights

washingtonpost.com

“Of all the commemorations of the March on Washington, the one that will best capture its spirit isn’t really a commemoration at all. Thursday, one day after the 50th anniversary of the great march, fast-food and retail workers in as many as 35 cities will stage a one-day strike demanding higher wages.

“Sadly, the connection between the epochal demonstration of 1963 and a fast-food strike in 2013 couldn’t be more direct.”

Tried and failed to find a web or mail address for the strike organizers. We aren’t going to be in play here in Baja Alabama, but they could set up ‘electronic picket lines’ around the targeted fast food joints. Wife and I don’t cross picket lines.

268 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:20:46am

re: #266 Justanotherhuman

The Jerusalem Post is warning that the Israeli homefront is not prepared for an unconventional conflict - referring to chemical weapons. There’s also reports indicating that if the UN/NATO/US hit Assad targets in Syria, that Syria would retaliate against Israel. Some Israelis aren’t sure that Assad would or wouldn’t attack.

It doesn’t matter that Israel has Iron Dome, Patriot and other missile defense systems available to it; Syria going after Israel if hit by airstrikes would open up a can of worms not seen since the 1991 Gulf War. Back then, Israel withstood the brunt of dozens of scud launches that slammed into Israel without retaliation, but would Israel do the same once again?

I’m not so sure. There are reasons that Assad wouldn’t want to enlarge the fight to include Israel out of practical reasons - if his military can barely scratch out a stalemate against rebel forces, it would suffer badly in a fight against the IDF. And Israel may well respond not only with airstrikes of its own, but could send in its Sayeret Matkal and other special forces to go after specific targets - missions that it might not have considered unless Israel was directly attacked. That’s not to say that Israel hasn’t gone after Syrian targets of opportunity before - the airstrike against the nuclear facility a few years back shows that they’ll act preemptively and with force if necessary.

But there are also reasons Assad would go after Israel - make a muddled mess and further complicate things for the rebels and the West - since affiliations/backing for various groups arrayed against Assad have different motivations and sometimes run counter to each other.

Still, airstrikes will hurt Assad, but they’ll end up having unpredictable outcomes not only for Israel, but for Lebanon, which is where Syria still exerts influence and where Assad’s proxies in Hizbullah continue to hold sway. Hizbullah is a wildcard in this, and they could again make a mess of Lebanon, to say nothing of Northern Israel.

If there’s a callup of Israeli forces, it may also be out of a concern that Hizbullah may well be planning to take the pressure off Assad by launching attacks against Israel to take media pressure off Assad and put the spotlight again on Israel.

269 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:21:12am

re: #267 Decatur Deb

Tried and failed to find a web or mail address for the strike organizers. We aren’t going to be in play here in Baja Alabama, but they could set up ‘electronic picket lines’ around the targeted fast food joints. Wife and I don’t cross picket lines.

Here you go:

aflcio.org

Also, if you google this “August 29 retail and fast food workers actions” you will find more reports.

270 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:29:51am

Meanwhile, NPS officials have indicated no-go zones in Yosemite due to the rim fire, and it extends through much of the Northeastern part of the park, including the Hetch Hetchy. Tioga Pass doesn’t have through-traffic E-W due to closures on the East side of the park due to fire threat.

The fire line extends well into the Hetch Hetchy watershed, though the water supply is still okay for now.

While firefighters have increased containment to 23%, the fire continues growing - especially within the Park perimeter due to harsh terrain and dry conditions.

271 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:31:57am

re: #225 ProTARDISLiberal

Meanwhile, back in the US.

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“Police say alcohol may have been a factor.”

272 GunstarGreen  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:35:36am

So, are you ready for another decade of pointless bullshit grandstanding war in a country that doesn’t affect us? Cause I sure am.

273 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:35:42am

re: #268 lawhawk

The Jerusalem Post is warning that the Israeli homefront is not prepared for an unconventional conflict - referring to chemical weapons. There’s also reports indicating that if the UN/NATO/US hit Assad targets in Syria, that Syria would retaliate against Israel. Some Israelis aren’t sure that Assad would or wouldn’t attack.

It doesn’t matter that Israel has Iron Dome, Patriot and other missile defense systems available to it; Syria going after Israel if hit by airstrikes would open up a can of worms not seen since the 1991 Gulf War. Back then, Israel withstood the brunt of dozens of scud launches that slammed into Israel without retaliation, but would Israel do the same once again?

I’m not so sure. There are reasons that Assad wouldn’t want to enlarge the fight to include Israel out of practical reasons - if his military can barely scratch out a stalemate against rebel forces, it would suffer badly in a fight against the IDF. And Israel may well respond not only with airstrikes of its own, but could send in its Sayeret Matkal and other special forces to go after specific targets - missions that it might not have considered unless Israel was directly attacked. That’s not to say that Israel hasn’t gone after Syrian targets of opportunity before - the airstrike against the nuclear facility a few years back shows that they’ll act preemptively and with force if necessary.

But there are also reasons Assad would go after Israel - make a muddled mess and further complicate things for the rebels and the West - since affiliations/backing for various groups arrayed against Assad have different motivations and sometimes run counter to each other.

Still, airstrikes will hurt Assad, but they’ll end up having unpredictable outcomes not only for Israel, but for Lebanon, which is where Syria still exerts influence and where Assad’s proxies in Hizbullah continue to hold sway. Hizbullah is a wildcard in this, and they could again make a mess of Lebanon, to say nothing of Northern Israel.

If there’s a callup of Israeli forces, it may also be out of a concern that Hizbullah may well be planning to take the pressure off Assad by launching attacks against Israel to take media pressure off Assad and put the spotlight again on Israel.

We were stationed there when Saddam was rattling his anthrax sabre. It’s just a fact of social psychology that a large population is never ‘prepared’. The IDF had a calendar-driven system to make sure everyone had a current mask kit, but never could keep up with people who would not exchange theirs for reconditioning. Kids also outgrew their bassinet and undersized MOPP gear. These are the same people who don’t keep their car registration current or their tetanus shots up.

274 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:37:21am

re: #272 GunstarGreen

So, are you ready for another decade of pointless bullshit grandstanding war in a country that doesn’t affect us? Cause I sure am.

Not going to happen. Obama isn’t Bill Clinton, let alone Bush/Cheney.

275 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:43:46am

Mornin’ everyone…how goes the cyber war? Is it time to send in the Amish?

276 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:49:54am
277 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 6:49:56am

re: #275 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone…how goes the cyber war? Is it time to send in the Amish?

The Amish ‘shunnet’ comms are as secure as a gnat’s ass.

278 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:05:26am

Dear god…no wonder they elect people like Jeb Bush and Rick Scott for governor in Florida. There’s a still shot at the link, or a video if you want to see the live act.

279 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:07:06am

re: #278 darthstar

Dear god…no wonder they elect people like Jeb Bush and Rick Scott for governor in Florida. There’s a still shot at the link, or a video if you want to see the live act.

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Tubguy

280 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:08:05am

re: #279 Vicious Babushka

Not even looking that up.

281 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:09:15am

Here’s a cute baby elephant for anyone who did follow above link.

Image: 1174790_500769983351152_323530275_n.jpg

282 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:12:31am

re: #280 darthstar

Not even looking that up.

Don’t.

283 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:13:42am
284 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:15:15am
285 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:19:22am

Good morning lizards!

Are the NYT and Twitter still having problems from getting hacked yesterday?

286 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:21:43am

I sent my granddaughter a Fisher-Price dollhouse to keep her busy while her mom has twins, it looks like Daddy is having more fun playing with it than she is. :)

Also those twins don’t show any interest in evacuating my DIL’s uterus. Lazy moochers.

287 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:21:59am
288 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:22:51am
289 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:24:46am

I guess they are.

New York Times and Twitter struggle after Syrian hack

The websites of the New York Times and Twitter are still suffering problems related to a damaging hack carried out on Tuesday.

290 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:25:37am

re: #287 lawhawk

There needs to be a massive lawsuit. That is disgusting.

291 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:27:53am

Another picture of the new great-grandson:

Xavier

292 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:29:42am

re: #221 Kragar

And the new Lex Luthor will be…

Bryan Cranston.

And I’m perfectly OK with that.

I wonder if there will be a scene where he tortures Ben Affleck.

293 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:32:59am

re: #290 ProTARDISLiberal

The ACLU and others are suing. Bloomberg and Kelly are defending, claiming the moves were part of the post-9/11 attacks need to get intel on Islamic extremism.

It’s one thing to search for plots, it’s another entirely to put an entire population into a suspect class, though it would delight the Geller’s of the world.

The NYPD program appears to have violated state and federal laws, and comes on the heels of the City Council’s veto override on stop and frisk and inspector general oversight for the NYPD.

294 Stoatly  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:33:27am

Some good news:
God’s doing less smiting these days

Lightning strikes have declined rapidly over the last several decades; as my colleague Katy Waldman noted last month, “God smites at least 70 percent fewer people now than He did 40 years ago.” According to the CDC, deaths from lightning have fallen 78.6 percent for men and 70.6 percent for women since 1968—an astonishing decline in a very short period of time.

Everybody must be behaving themselves
/

295 SchadenBoner  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:37:36am

re: #2 freetoken

WTI and Brent prices (petroleum) have rocketed up.

There are already those who are declaring there is a conspiracy by the US (and some blaming Israel) to start another war for oil.

Because nothing says “Massive Zionist plot” like provoking a war on a large border with an internally destabilized nation, ammirite?

…Wait, what?

re: #11 dog philosopher

seems fair - we bomb them, they deny us the ability to look at ads for bulgari watches and read david brooks editorials

Um, SEA for Nobel Prize for “Contributions to cranio-desk collision avoidance around the world”?

EDIT: Oh, hai yesterday’s posts! Crap…

296 bratwurst  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:38:18am
297 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:40:17am

Same RWNJ still Derping at me about imaginary warmongering “Leftists”

298 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:41:08am

re: #286 Vicious Babushka

These twins-to-be have no ambition. And they probably don’t have any respect for authority. /

299 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:41:48am

re: #291 Backwoods_Sleuth

Just born and already sleeping. C’mon. He’s got work to do. /

300 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:42:13am

re: #293 lawhawk

The ACLU and others are suing. Bloomberg and Kelly are defending, claiming the moves were part of the post-9/11 attacks need to get intel on Islamic extremism.

It’s one thing to search for plots, it’s another entirely to put an entire population into a suspect class, though it would delight the Geller’s of the world.

The NYPD program appears to have violated state and federal laws, and comes on the heels of the City Council’s veto override on stop and frisk and inspector general oversight for the NYPD.

I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but what if there was proof the program had identified and broken up a major terror plot, thus saving the lives of potentially thousands of Americans?

Would it be easier to accept then?

(Note: I do not agree or support the program in question)

301 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:42:20am

re: #298 Bulworth

These twins-to-be have no ambition. And they probably don’t have any respect for authority. /

They’re in Alabama, the probably realize that once they are no longer fetuses, the GOP won’t care about them any more.

302 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:43:08am

re: #297 Vicious Babushka

Same RWNJ still Derping at me about imaginary warmongering “Leftists”

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Wait, I’m confused.

So leftists are supposed to be tolerant of everyone and yet somehow jonesing for war at the same time?

303 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:45:14am

re: #302 Eclectic Cyborg

Wait, I’m confused.

So leftists are supposed to be tolerant of everyone and yet somehow jonesing for war at the same time?

The RWNJ meme is that “Leftists” are tolerant of everyone except for people who “disagree” with them by being anti-abortion, anti-gay and pro-gun.

304 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:47:47am

Heh.

‘Syrian Electronic Army’ site down after attack on New York Times

SAN JOSE, California - The website for a hacker group calling itself the “Syrian Electronic Army” was taken offline by an Internet body — a counterpunch after the group claimed to have disrupted several major news websites, notably the home page of The New York Times.

A Tweet from the hackers said domain name registrar Name.com had suspended the group’s account for breach of contact on Tuesday, after they claimed responsibility for redirecting Internet traffic from the Times’ and other websites.

“Sorry, our website will not be available for the next few hours, Name.com suspended our account,” read a Tweet from @Official_SEA16. The registrar did not immediately return calls for confirmation.

305 kirkspencer  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:47:50am

re: #303 Vicious Babushka

The RWNJ meme is that “Leftists” are tolerant of everyone except for people who “disagree” with them by being anti-abortion, anti-gay and pro-gun.

In other words, leftists are LWNJs; mirror images of the RWNJs.

Of which, sadly, there are some. Just not as many as the R* believes.

306 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:49:29am
307 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:51:20am

*FACE PALM*
No, just that 4 other people are dead instead of her, Pirate Bob. (Two people who donated the lungs, and two people who didn’t get a lung)

308 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:51:36am

re: #300 Eclectic Cyborg

That’s likely going to be their fallback position. The lawsuits pending and expected will shed light on this and whether there’s any actual plots that were disrupted because of the wholesale treatment of mosques for surveillance.

Put another way, would you want your entire church or shul under surveillance on the chances that someone may be engaging in a terror plot (like say a white supremacist terror group or a JDL/Kahanist plot) that has nothing to do with the facility itself.

309 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:52:58am

re: #307 Vicious Babushka

310 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:56:32am

re: #300 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but what if there was proof the program had identified and broken up a major terror plot, thus saving the lives of potentially thousands of Americans?

Would it be easier to accept then?

(Note: I do not agree or support the program in question)

Maybe if other police forces had spent as much time watching christian church crazies we would have had fewer bombings and doctor shootings. Wonder what would the religious right think about that?

311 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:57:49am


My friend’s son is in Tel Aviv. I wonder if he got called up?

312 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:58:49am

re: #300 Eclectic Cyborg

I hate to play devil’s advocate here, but what if there was proof the program had identified and broken up a major terror plot, thus saving the lives of potentially thousands of Americans?

Would it be easier to accept then?

(Note: I do not agree or support the program in question)

I can understand them targeting individuals who attend certain mosques, but not eryone associated with them…

It is both sloppy investigative work to throw out such a broad net and counter-productive. not to mention fucking illegal.

313 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 7:59:12am
314 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:02:37am

re: #307 Vicious Babushka

Please remind him of that. Not that he’ll care, but others might see and think.

315 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:04:20am
316 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:04:58am

re: #315 NJDhockeyfan

Artist who painted Putin in women’s underwear flees Russia, plans to seek asylum (with photos): t.co -SS

— The Associated Press (@AP) August 28, 2013

Can we make a trade? We’ll take the artist and they can keep Snowden.

317 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:07:02am

re: #315 NJDhockeyfan

Artist who painted Putin in underwear flees Russia

In addition to the anti-homosexuality legislation, it is illegal to “offend religious sensiblities” and to “insult public authority”.

Autocracy and Orthodoxy: the pillars of the Romanov Dynasty.

318 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:08:40am

Derp.

319 blueraven  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:11:24am

Melbourne IT Blog Hacked and Defaced by Syrian Electronic Army

The Syrian Electronic Army appears to still have access to the systems of Australian web hosting and domain registration company Melbourne IT.

After altering DNS records to disrupt the domains of Twitter, The New York Times, and The Huffington Post, the hackers have defaced Melbourne IT’s blog (melbourneit.com.au/blog) to show that they still have access to the company’s servers.

“Hacked by SEA, Your servers security is very weak,” the hackers wrote on the defaced page.

After the initial breach, the Internet company’s representatives revealed that the attackers had used credentials stolen from a US-based reseller to access their systems.

The firm said it was looking into the incident, but it’s clear that the hackers still have some backdoors planted on their servers.

At the time of writing, Melbourne IT’s blog still displays the Syrian Electronic Army’s message.

320 b.d.  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:11:33am
Edward Snowden: I don’t wanna live in a world where everything that I say, everything I do, everyone I talk to, every expression of creativity, or love, or friendship is recorded, and that’s not something I’m willing to support, it’s not something I’m willing to build, and it’s not something I’m willing to live under.
321 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:11:40am

To derp is human, to forgive, divine.

322 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:12:50am

re: #318 Gus

Derp.

twerk (added today)

323 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:14:57am

Where are all these “Libruls” who are so eager to get into a war with Syria? Are they invisible to everyone except for wingnuts?

324 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:15:12am

Does the Syrian Electronic Army also attack TVs, dishwashers, refrigerators, toasters and other electronic appliances?

325 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:15:34am
326 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:17:07am

Interactive map of Rim Fire, and includes locations of previous major fires in the same vicinity.

327 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:18:26am

re: #322 NJDhockeyfan

twerk (added today)

They messed up the pronunciation of derp.

Pronunciation: /dəːp/

328 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:18:47am

re: #323 Vicious Babushka

Where are all these “Libruls” who are so eager to get into a war with Syria? Are they invisible to everyone except for wingnuts?

Remember: To wingnuts, “libruls” mean anyone who is not white and Christian.

329 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:19:33am

re: #325 Vicious Babushka

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It seems Fischer thinks RWW is some kind of aggregate site promoting all the awesomest news coming out of the right.

330 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:19:43am

Uh oh:

@MittRomney I have a dream that what made America great will make our kids great #DreamDay

Got that? OK.

331 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:20:00am

re: #328 Eclectic Cyborg

Remember: To wingnuts, “libruls” mean anyone who is not white and rhe right variety of fundamentalist Protestant Christian.

332 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:22:00am

re: #325 Vicious Babushka

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It would do Bryan much good if he really did “fear the lord”.

333 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:22:56am

re: #323 Vicious Babushka

Where are all these “Libruls” who are so eager to get into a war with Syria? Are they invisible to everyone except for wingnuts?

I’m waiting to see the paper-mache crowd. Where are they?

334 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:24:05am
335 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:24:46am
336 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:25:32am

re: #204 Targetpractice

$4/gal, here we come. Just in time for Labor Day.

Cue the shot of concerned Matt Lauer fueling up a (insert luxury car here) decrying the “pain at the pump”. “Now back to the studio where the real question is, is Miley Cyrus’ performance a sign of a declining empire? Take it away Savannah!!”

337 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:26:35am

re: #336 Amory Blaine

Cue the shot of concerned Matt Lauer fueling up a (insert luxury car here) decrying the “pain at the pump”. “Now back to the studio where the real question is, is Miley Cyrus’ performance a sign of a declining empire? Take it away Savannah!!”

And why doesn’t Obama want to relax restrictions on domestic drilling so we can have $2 gasoline again?

338 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:26:50am
339 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:29:09am

re: #338 Gus

You saw that, too, huh?

340 GlutenFreeJesus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:30:42am

re: #315 NJDhockeyfan

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Snowden is wishing he thought of this idea to get out of Russia first.

341 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:30:43am

re: #339 Bulworth

You saw that, too, huh?

Freaked me out. //

342 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:32:09am

re: #323 Vicious Babushka

Where are all these “Libruls” who are so eager to get into a war with Syria? Are they invisible to everyone except for wingnuts?

Hey, it’s a win-win nugget of wingnut rhetoric! If we say we still support Obama over the dudebro-GOP coalition (assuming we actually do bomb Syria), it means we’re EEBIL WARMNOGERS KILING BABBY WIF DRONZ, but if we say we don’t agree with the strikes, it means EVEN OBUMMER’S BASE SEES HOW TYRRANICAL HE IZ!

Or something.

343 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:32:28am

In celebration of the word ‘derp’ being added to the dictionary:

Do anything to combat global warming in Glenn Beck’s office? You’re fired.

To prove his case against global warming, which Beck labels a “load of socialist, communist crap,” the right-wing talk-show host announced his war against energy-efficient light bulbs.

On air, he asked a staffer to write a memo that threatened to fire anyone caught using one. The YouTube video of the moment was picked up by Grist.

“I’m dead serious,” Beck said on his radio program, as his employees titter nervously. “I fire the person that starts to purchase fluorescent light bulbs, unless that is the only light bulb for a very specific reason, and I want to be cc’d on what that reason is.” How about to light a dark room? Is that reason enough?

But Beck’s vendetta against eco-friendly office supplies doesn’t end there. He told one worker not to purchase any more recyclable spoons, either.

“If anyone does anything in this company because of global warming, they’re fired,” he said. He’s OK with saving trees, though. Except for writing all those memos.

Perhaps Beck didn’t get the memo that a majority of Americans believe climate change is real.

..

news.yahoo.com

Not The Onion

344 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:32:40am

Shocka!

345 Bubblehead II  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:33:55am

GAAAAAHHHHH!!!!

346 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:36:03am

re: #343 Bulworth

Guess he likes to spend more over time for energy costs than a sane person would. Yes, up front costs for a CFL or LED is higher, but you’ll save many times more with the CFL or LED than the incandescent over life of the fixture.

347 bratwurst  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:37:05am


(this is, of course, the former Congressman…not the Eagles and James Gang guitarist)

348 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:37:18am

Let Freedom Ring! Coverage has already started. Three presidents; none Republican.

theobamadiary.com

349 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:37:50am

re: #338 Gus

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This gives me good cause to pimp one of my favourite Canadian bands, the Tragically Hip:

Youtube Video

350 Wile E. Wonka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:39:46am

re: #346 lawhawk

Guess he likes to spend more over time for energy costs than a sane person would. Yes, up front costs for a CFL or LED is higher, but you’ll save many times more with the CFL or LED than the incandescent over life of the fixture.

SUPPLY-SIDE JESUS WANTS YOU to consume conspicuously!

Seriously. I’ve had the same argument over and over with a few of my friends over lithium (AA and 9V) batteries vs. alkalines. Sure, they cost twice as much, but they last three times as long and generate a third of the waste.

Now if only someone could come up with a rechargeable AA that pushed a full 1.5V…

351 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:41:17am

re: #347 bratwurst

Walsh Freedom. Jeebus.

352 Carlos Danger  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:42:59am

re: #317 Sol Berdinowitz

In addition to the anti-homosexuality legislation, it is illegal to “offend religious sensiblities” and to “insult public authority”.

Autocracy and Orthodoxy: the pillars of the Romanov Dynasty.

This story is a day old, but…

Tchaikovsky’s sexuality ‘downplayed’ in biopic under Russia’s anti-gay law

Russia’s legislation banning “gay propaganda”, which has already cast a cloud over the 2014 Sochi Olympics, has now reportedly prompted local filmmakers to self-censor their portrayal of the composer Pyotr Tchaikovsky, who is widely believed to have been gay.

353 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:49:44am

Outrageous outrage.

One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria said he believed the White House would seek a level of intensity “just muscular enough not to get mocked” but not so devastating that it would prompt a response from Syrian allies Iran and Russia.

“One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria…”

Reminds me of “Israeli official.”

354 Carlos Danger  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:51:11am

And yeah, Lawhawk was pretty much right about Lonegan. What an asshole.

355 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:51:30am


GFY.

356 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:52:35am

I suppose this does cover husbands, too.

Sylvie Beghal loses airport questioning legal challenge

bbc.co.uk

“In his judgement on Wednesday, Mr Justice Gross said the stops were “neither arbitrary nor disproportionate”.

“Lawyers for Mrs Beghal are expected to appeal and try to take the case to the Supreme Court. “

357 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:54:49am

Huffpo:

Dennis Kucinich: Syria Strike Would Make U.S. ‘Al Qaeda’s Air Force,’ Could Spark ‘World War Three’

Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) cautioned against hasty military action in Syria during a Tuesday interview with The Hill, claiming that air strikes would help al Qaeda and lead to much broader conflict.

“So what, we’re about to become Al Qaeda’s air force now?” Kucinich said, presumably referring to reports that the terrorist group has also vowed revenge on Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s regime. “This is a very, very serious matter that has broad implications internationally. And to try to minimize it by saying we’re just going to have a ‘targeted strike’ — that’s an act of war. It’s not anything to be trifled with.”

Not surprisingly there is lots of support for Kucinich in the comments as expected…

lightsabermetrics

Kucinich 2016!

…

HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Nunyabiz1

As usual Kucinich is absolutely correct, he should be president.
If not for the media he would have been.

…

BlueKoi

Well why not? We are already Israels air force,,,

Israel has every riight to exist,,

I just dont think we should be fighting their wars ,… Or anyone elses wars

358 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:55:51am

re: #357 NJDhockeyfan

Huffpo:

Dennis Kucinich: Syria Strike Would Make U.S. ‘Al Qaeda’s Air Force,’ Could Spark ‘World War Three’

The only part of this article I care about:

Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio)

I saw it, and it was good.

359 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:57:57am

re: #353 Gus

Outrageous outrage.

One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria said he believed the White House would seek a level of intensity “just muscular enough not to get mocked” but not so devastating that it would prompt a response from Syrian allies Iran and Russia.

“One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria…”

Reminds me of “Israeli official.”

360 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 8:59:00am

re: #359 Gus

Glad to know One U.S. Official hasn’t yet left middle school.

361 OhNoZombies!  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:02:02am

Is twitter still messed up, or am I the only one who still can’t see anything?

362 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:03:11am

What’s with morning personalities drinking booze every morning on network tv?

363 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:04:40am


One U.S. official who has been briefed on the options on Syria said he believed the White House would seek a level of intensity “just muscular enough not to get mocked” but not so devastating that it would prompt a response from Syrian allies Iran and Russia.

“They are looking at what is just enough to mean something, just enough to be more than symbolic,” he said.

364 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:05:58am

re: #363 Gus

[Embedded content]

I wanna see Obama in a flight suit with a “Mission Accomplished” banner in the background…

365 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:06:12am

re: #362 Amory Blaine

The rich aren’t like the rest of us….

366 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:06:45am

I just hate these sick fucks who co-opt the Holocaust for themselves.

367 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:06:55am

Yosemite burns. Syrian strike on the horizon. The Today show gives tips on vajazzling.

368 blueraven  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:07:47am

re: #355 erik_t

[Embedded content]


GFY.

Good grief! Looks like it has now been deleted though.

WTF were they thinking?

369 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:08:02am

re: #367 Amory Blaine

Those first two things you mentioned require reporting, investigating, knowledge, etc. /

370 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:10:44am
371 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:13:13am

I’ve replaced all bulbs (except overheads which we seldom use) with CFLs, and am working to replace those globe lights in the bath (6) which are rather expensive, although I did find 2 GEs (equiv of 40W) for a bit under $4/ea on clearance at Walgreens. They’re typically not cheap, but I’ll replace them for the fluourescents as they burn out, as well as purchase a 3-way for a floor lamp. All other lamps have CFLs.

Duke Energy gave away cases of CFLs (containing about 10 (equiv 60W) and 5 (equiv 75W) just by calling and requesting them, so I have plenty of replacements.

372 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:14:13am
373 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:14:26am

re: #371 Justanotherhuman

Why do you hate America?

/

374 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:18:05am

re: #371 Justanotherhuman

It also cuts down on cooling costs for A/C, greater comfort if not. Incandescents pour out heat. Halogens? Forget about it.

375 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:18:52am
376 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:19:03am
377 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:20:00am
378 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:20:00am

Cool cat.

379 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:20:08am

re: #376 Lidane

I’m glad he was able to make that insulting AND obnoxiously paternal.

380 piratedan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:22:44am

re: #376 Lidane

if only the same applied to our “do nothing” Congress…..

381 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:23:21am

Scott Walker now blaming Syria for his pathetic job creating record.

Governor Scott Walker is calling on President Obama to put more pressure on Syrian officials.

“The President, working with other leaders on a global basis, can try and put some pressure on to get things under control in the Middle East and provide stability there, because that will help our economy and if they don’t it has an impact,” Gov. Walker said. “We can do all the good possible, we can get the state back on the right track, but if there’s instability around the world it will inevitably have an impact.”

Gov. Walker made the comment while in Merrill Monday morning for a local company’s 40th anniversary.

382 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:23:31am

Weiner’s desperation…buying crowds…

Report: Anthony Weiner pays for supporters

Anthony Weiner is allegedly paying a firm to provide him with “supporters” at some events, a source has told The New York Post.

The New York mayoral candidate used the California firm Crowds on Demand to deliver paid actors to some events, the Post’s report Wednesday claims.

…The source said the Weiner campaign used the company “several times,” including at the Aug. 11 Dominican Day Parade in Manhattan, where it is alleged a number of actors were paid $15 an hour to make up a crowd of his supporters.

383 SchadenBoner  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:25:53am

re: #377 Gus

[Embedded content]

Because Real Men (TM) have shitty, ingrown nails apparently?

(Seriously, I’m nursing one on my big toe, this suuuucks…)

384 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:26:00am

re: #379 erik_t

I’m glad he was able to make that insulting AND obnoxiously paternal.

Obnoxiously paternal in a certain Dickensian workhouse way.

I mean look at that statement…a parent not saying “no special privileges” or “no dessert” but no food?

385 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:26:58am

re: #368 blueraven

Good grief! Looks like it has now been deleted though.

WTF were they thinking?

Some intern said: “Hey, I’ve got a great idea!”

386 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:27:21am

re: #377 Gus

387 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:27:23am

re: #383 SchadenBoner

Because Real Men (TM) have shitty, ingrown nails apparently?

(Seriously, I’m nursing one on my big toe, this suuuucks…)

That and being gay is not a fetish. It can include fetishes with individuals just like with heterosexual people. So he’s not only being weird but dumb.

388 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:29:15am
389 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:29:24am

Here’s Scott Walker bragging about dropping a “bomb” on the citizens of his own state. Stability? Fuck you.

390 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:30:47am

re: #376 Lidane

[Embedded content]

re: #384 The Ghost of a Flea

Obnoxiously paternal in a certain Dickensian workhouse way.

I mean look at that statement…a parent not saying “no special privileges” or “no dessert” but no food?

“”You don’t work, you don’t eat! Bring me the lash!”

391 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:32:08am
392 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:32:44am

re: #391 Gus

[Embedded content]

And no doubt the base will take pride in that.

393 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:33:03am
394 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:33:06am

re: #387 Gus

That and being gay is not a fetish. It can include fetishes with individuals just like with heterosexual people. So he’s not only being weird but dumb.

Obviously, Lonegan loves to suck on dirty toes. Taking Dick Morris’s fetish and making it edgy.

395 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:37:16am

Bryan still Derping this dumb shit

396 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:37:31am

That’s because communists have co-opted Dr. Kings message of self interest and would be rolling in his grave if he knew Obamao was POTUS!!!!!111!!!TYyy
We must elect someone who truly understands civil rights!!11! WE NEED RAND PAUL!!!!!!!

397 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:37:42am

re: #387 Gus

Covered this at length here.

Booker’s sexual orientation doesn’t matter. His personal relationships aren’t a concern unless they throw up red flags - like say hiring friends/acquaintances to do positions they are unqualified to do or that they are in a position to blackmail him into actions.

But there’s not the slightest bit of scandal surrounding Booker on the personal or professional front.

Rather, Booker’s lived in one of Newark’s housing projects, works and relates with his constituents on a daily basis, and has been doing that since he first entered Newark politics as a councilman. Lonegan can’t go after Booker on policy, so he thinks that going after him personally will win him votes.

That wont work. Booker’s up by probably 20+ points, and will win comfortably, but Lonegan will secure the RWNJ/bigot vote handily.

This is the same Lonegan who claimed he couldn’t win because Booker was black - even though Lonegan couldn’t win a statewide election against…. Chris Christie. Pretty much everyone in the state knows Lonegan is a nutter. But he’s a nutter with some name recognition so that is how he sticks around.

398 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:38:59am

re: #395 Vicious Babushka

Bryan must not read the Bible.

399 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:40:27am

re: #395 Vicious Babushka

Whose Bible and which Founders would he disapprove of for having slaves? Or all the good Christians in the South who were slaveowners?

It’s all such nonsense from Fischer who I’m finding harder and harder to think that he believes his own BS.

400 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:40:49am

re: #398 Bulworth

Bryan must not read the Bible.

I actually read his vomitous essay, it contained this little turd:

the slave trader who captained that vessel would have been arrested the moment he landed, prosecuted and strung up.

What the Fucking Fuck?

402 blueraven  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:42:54am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

A large poster falsely purporting to show Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. at a Communist Training School

Is that from now or 50 years ago?

403 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:44:15am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

A large poster falsely purporting to show Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. at a Communist Training School

Wingnuts keep Derping over TEH COMMUNIZM!!!1!! when in fact there are no Communists in the United States, except for maybe two or three 100-year-old people in a nursing home.

If they are talking about POTUS, he totally SUCKS as a Communist, or else the Kochs and the Waltons would be dead or in a gulag and their assets turned over to the workers.

404 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:44:45am

re: #324 Gus

Does the Syrian Electronic Army also attack TVs, dishwashers, refrigerators, toasters and other electronic appliances?

I’d also appreciate it if they went after that damn electronic eye faucet in the bathroom here at work. It never notices when I have my hands under it to start/keep going. That thing needs attacked mercilessly.

405 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:44:51am

And the Ambassador Bridge would be owned jointly by the people of the United States of America, and Canada.

406 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:45:19am

re: #391 Gus

Faux will no doubt claim Dems politicizing MLK Dream Day and MLK was GOP tonight if they aren’t already.

407 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:46:46am

re: #406 Bulworth

Faux will no doubt claim Dems politicizing MLK Dream Day and MLK was GOP tonight if they aren’t already.

Actually, been thinking about that. Yes, MLK could have been a Republican. A 1963 Republican.

409 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:48:28am
410 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:48:54am

Booker’s released the following today - a position paper to reform the criminal justice system and urging voters to petition Congress to reevaluate the criminal justice system.

Among the points he makes - the high costs for incarceration (like in NYC where it costs $167,000 a year to keep someone at Riker’s Island - or about $2b a year for the 12,000 inmates).

He also highlights his ability to work across the aisle, including with the conservative Manhattan Institute to work on measures to make Newark safer while containing costs.

Reduce prison entries for nonviolent offenders.
Eliminate mandatory minimum for low-level drug offenders.
Eliminate the difference between crack cocaine and powder cocaine in drug guidelines/sentencing.

Invest in reentry into society. Rehabilitation gets short shrift compared to the punitive nature of incarceration.

Once again, I think this shows that Booker’s more than just a twitter phenom; the guy’s got some real policy insights and I hope that he proves forceful on these and other issues facing the state and nation.

411 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:49:39am

re: #404 Eventual Carrion

I’d also appreciate it if they went after that damn electronic eye faucet in the bathroom here at work. It never notices when I have my hands under it to start/keep going. That thing needs attacked mercilessly.

I’d rather they go after the electronic eye that makes the toilet flush as soon as I sit down…

412 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:52:22am

Iran warns attack on Syria would trigger retaliation on Israel

Iranian officials warned the United States and its allies Tuesday that any military intervention in Syria would provoke a retaliatory attack on Israel, according to reports.

“In case of a U.S. military strike against Syria, the flames of outrage of the region’s revolutionaries will point toward the Zionist regime,” the semiofficial Fars news agency quoted Iranian Member of Parliament Mansur Haqiqatpur as saying.

I don’t think the Iranians have the testicles to fire on Israel at the moment. At least not until their nukes built anyway.

413 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:52:38am

re: #411 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just hate the sinks with the push-down knobs where the warm water knob comes right back up and all I get is cold water. “Thing’s lucky I’m not armed….”

414 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 9:53:29am

re: #413 Bulworth

Hold it down with your forehead.

415 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:00:37am

Oh and this? Tiffany just sent me a link to Breitbart to “prove” that HURR HURR LIBRULZ WANTZ WAR!!11!!

416 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:01:07am

And now for a Real Quote.

417 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:02:52am

re: #415 Vicious Babushka

Funny. Most people I know on both sides oppose war with Syria.

418 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:03:48am

Derp

419 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:04:19am

He was murdered while supporting a labor strike pushing for better working conditions for sanitation workers. A true hero of the people. All people.

420 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:05:06am

Some good photos of the progression of the activities in DC.

421 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:05:48am

re: #417 Lidane

Funny. Most people I know on both sides oppose war with Syria.

Leftmost politician pushing for conflict is John McCain.

422 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:08:11am
423 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:10:59am

re: #418 Vicious Babushka

Maybe RWNJ could point to just one thing that MLK did that they admire. Or if they know of anything he said other than the “character rather than color” statement.

424 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:11:50am

re: #422 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Derp.

425 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:12:16am

Oh boy does this bring back memories of my childhood. Used to go to Action Park in Vernon NJ every summer for a couple of years as a teenager. Those were the days.

And yes - that human cannonball loop ride shown in the video did exist. That’s no photoshop. It really used to be there near the entrance of the park and you’d be like who in their right mind would go on that thing.

426 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:13:59am
427 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:15:26am

True Derp

428 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:15:31am

re: #418 Vicious Babushka

I wonder what Jeannie knows about MLK’s Letter From Birmingham? His Poor People’s March? What he was doing in Memphis when he was killed.

429 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:16:37am

re: #425 lawhawk

Oh boy does this bring back memories of my childhood. Used to go to Action Park in Vernon NJ every summer for a couple of years as a teenager. Those were the days.

And yes - that human cannonball loop ride shown in the video did exist. That’s no photoshop. It really used to be there near the entrance of the park and you’d be like who in their right mind would go on that thing.

For 5-6 years we lived in McAffee, a mile from Action Park/the ski slopes. My teenage son got summer work there, serving the little tennisball-firing tanks.

430 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:18:34am

Were Republicans Really the Party of Civil Rights in the 1960s?

431 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:18:47am

Derp.

432 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:20:10am

re: #431 Vicious Babushka

BF is sort of important in that he has some public influence and reflects the opinion of a lot of people, but there is no arguing or reasong with him, only trying to limit the amount of damage he and his ilk can do.

433 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:23:44am

Yet again conservatives are co-opting the message. Brilliant propagandists.

434 makeitstop  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:24:04am

re: #425 lawhawk

Oh boy does this bring back memories of my childhood. Used to go to Action Park in Vernon NJ every summer for a couple of years as a teenager. Those were the days.

And yes - that human cannonball loop ride shown in the video did exist. That’s no photoshop. It really used to be there near the entrance of the park and you’d be like who in their right mind would go on that thing.

Traction Park! :)

I went there once, and never went back.

435 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:24:07am

Steve King: Unemployed people are like kids trying to eat without doing chores

Rep. Steve King (R-IA) told a crowd in South Carolina this week that unemployed people were like children who wanted to eat before they had done their chores.

At a closed-door Charleston event put on by conservative activist Mallory Factor, King said that there were over 100 million people between the ages of 16 and 74 who were “simply not in the work force.”

“Now, what kind of a family, if you had six kids and a third of you kids would say, ‘I’m not doing the chores, mom’?” he opined. “If any of them say, ‘I refuse, I’m not going to participate, I’m not going to contribute to the American GDP,’ pretty soon those kids would be on the — you get to eat after you do the work! Not just in hopes that one day you might actually do the work!”

Steve King, you are a complete fucking moron.

436 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:26:44am

re: #435 Kragar

Steve King: Unemployed people are like kids trying to eat without doing chores

Steve King, you are a complete fucking moron.

HEY ALL U LAID-OFF IT ENGINEERS, THEM WALMART SHELVES AIN’T GONNA STOCK THEMSELVES!!11 THEM BURGERS AIN’T GONNA FLIP THEMSELVES!!!1111

437 blueraven  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:27:06am

re: #435 Kragar

Steve King: Unemployed people are like kids trying to eat without doing chores

Steve King, you are a complete fucking moron.

King is an idiot. Who withholds food from children?
If my kids didn’t do their chores, they got no allowance or privileges…not no supper.

438 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:28:31am

re: #437 blueraven

King is an idiot. Who withholds food from children?
If my kids didn’t do their chores, they got no allowance or privileges…not no supper.

Because we are normal parents, whereas Steve King is a sadistic abusive asshole.

439 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:29:10am
440 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:29:43am

re: #435 Kragar

Steve King: Unemployed people are like kids trying to eat without doing chores

Steve King, you are a complete fucking moron.

This 72 yr old would like to smack the shit out of that misanthrope and put him on bread and water.

So yeah, Steve King, fuck you for living off the taxpayers you hate.

441 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:42:33am

re: #425 lawhawk

Oh boy does this bring back memories of my childhood. Used to go to Action Park in Vernon NJ every summer for a couple of years as a teenager. Those were the days.

And yes - that human cannonball loop ride shown in the video did exist. That’s no photoshop. It really used to be there near the entrance of the park and you’d be like who in their right mind would go on that thing.

Went back to watch the video. Living there, we never got the sense of danger, though I remember almost getting creamed on the Alpine Slide. We lost the sled, halfway down, and the kid and I were almost greased by the next (brakeless) sled.


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