March on Washington - 50 Years On

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Fifty years ago today, Martin Luther King, Jr. gave his famous “I Have a Dream” speech

In honor of the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington, a moment when America took decisive action to reverse the legacy of slavery. And a warning that the American right wing is working hard to roll back that progress. We must remain vigilant.

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1 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:28:43am
2 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:28:51am

For all the talk that the GOP was behind the civil rights movement, rather odd that their leaders declined to participate in today’s gathering to honor the memory of the MOW and King’s inspirational speech.

It’s the fact that so many within the GOP are looking to roll back voting rights - access to the polls - that shows that there’s much to be done to preserve civil rights for all.

3 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:28:54am
4 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:30:16am

Were Republicans Really the Party of Civil Rights in the 1960s?

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:31:21am

There’s a NPR piece on Rep. John Lewis’ speech at the march and the Right Wing trolls are out in force. But they moderate there and the sane also fight back. That’s a pleasant thing to see.

SoundCloud

6 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:33:14am

The fact that the media refuses to connect the dots between todays conservatives and those of the past is frustrating to say the least.

Teabaggers 1960s style.

Modern day Teabaggers.

7 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:36:14am

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

You mean all the Civil Rights loving RWNJ trolls aren’t happy with actual Civil Rights pioneer Lewis?

//

8 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:36:23am
10 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:46:16am

National Review 1957

Why the South Must Prevail

11 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:48:18am


Except that I’ve heard countless arguments from conservative christians saying how slavery was great from a Biblical standpoint.

12 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:55:05am
13 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:55:38am

Watch wingnuts heads explode!
Except: most Walmart employees do not qualify for benefits.

14 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:57:28am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Posted about that yesterday. Can’t help but wonder if some key executive in a leadership position realized that they’d benefit from the policy change, so they made the change for the entire company, even though only a small number of employees will benefit because of the company’s reliance on so many employees who don’t get benefits like health care insurance because they aren’t full timers.

15 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:58:07am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Watch wingnuts heads explode!
Except: most Walmart employees do not qualify for benefits.

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Let me guess, only available for full time employees and not the countless part timers they routinely hire.

16 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:58:14am

OT - Launch of Delta IV Heavy at Vandenberg in 5 minutes

17 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:58:33am

re: #14 lawhawk

Posted about that yesterday. Can’t help but wonder if some key executive in a leadership position realized that they’d benefit from the policy change, so they made the change for the entire company, even though only a small number of employees will benefit because of the company’s reliance on so many employees who don’t get benefits like health care insurance because they aren’t full timers.

What is the percentage of Walmart employees who actually receive benefits?

18 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:58:51am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

OT - Launch of Delta IV Heavy at Vandenberg in 5 minutes

Linky no worky


edit: working now. :)

19 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:59:50am

not sure why link doesn’t work, :/

20 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 10:59:55am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Gay mafia made ‘em do it. Obama threatened them with his thugs. Yada yada yada. Jeepers their talking points write themselves.

21 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:00:32am

re: #20 Amory Blaine

Gay mafia made ‘em do it. Obama threatened them with his thugs. Yada yada yada. Jeepers their talking points write themselves.

TEH YOONYUNZ!!11!!

Oh wait…

22 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:00:40am

re: #20 Amory Blaine

Gay mafia made ‘em do it. Obama threatened them with his thugs. Yada yada yada. Jeepers their talking points write themselves.

The gay man was wearing a sharp looking ring and they didn’t want to risk it.

23 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:01:48am

I admired MLK and the many others who worked in the Civil Rights movement back in those days, and which were the impetus for my political activism. It was pretty remarkable for a young white mother, a southerner, whose own grandmother (and other relatives) could not understand why I was willing to throw my lot in with the movement. I remember very distinctly being at her apt, watching the news, and when MLK was shown on TV, her remark that he was “the devil”. The same woman who approved of the KKK because they “made men take care of their families”. She had very little education, reading nothing but the bible, and had allowed ignorance to rule that part of her.

I could never get her to reconcile herself to the errors of her beliefs, even though in other ways I loved her very much, and she took care of my sister and me often from the time my mother died at age 28. I took what nuggets of wisdom in practical matters she offered I could use. She was a woman of some great personal strength who had raised 6 kids alone during the Depression—being even poorer than the Black family from whom she told me she once rented a house—but she retained that “white pride” that her skin color told her she should have. She claimed she had no real animus toward Black people in particular, but she thought “white people” should be first, and better, in everything. I have heard that same sentiment often from white people over the years living where I have lived, even in the North and West, and not just from southerners.

24 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:04:08am
25 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:04:49am

re: #23 Justanotherhuman

Yes. Milwaukee is a bastion of bigotry and segregation in the north.

26 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:07:11am
27 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:08:08am
28 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:09:04am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

OT - Launch of Delta IV Heavy at Vandenberg in 5 minutes

Thanks! My son & his friend enjoyed watching that.

29 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:11:29am

WINGNUT HEADS EXPLODE!!111

30 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:11:48am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

So Fox found a black guy with so little respect for MLK that he’d come on the air and give an opposing opinion?

31 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:13:14am

re: #17 Vicious Babushka

The company doesn’t make it easy to figure out but Reuters reports that more than half of Walmart employees are on the company’s health care plan.

Wal-Mart Stores Inc said on Tuesday it will offer health insurance benefits to domestic partners of its U.S. employees starting next year, following the lead of other major companies.

The world’s largest retailer, based in Bentonville, Arkansas, also plans to begin to offer vision care to its eligible employees and their dependents, according to information the retailer sent to workers this week.

Wal-Mart is the single biggest U.S. employer outside of the federal government. More than half of its 1.3 million U.S. employees are on its health-care plans. The company said it does not know how many workers would use the new benefits, which also include free hip and knee joint replacements.

Wal-Mart’s extension of health insurance to domestic partners comes after the U.S. Supreme Court in June forced the federal government to recognize same-sex marriages in states where it is legal. The Supreme Court also paved the way for same-sex marriage in California.

“Since we operate in all 50 states, we thought it was important to develop a single definition for all Wal-Mart associates in the U.S.,” spokesman David Tovar said.

32 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:13:41am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

What, Allen West was unavailable? /

33 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:14:46am

US State Department: Syrian government should not be allowed to hide behind Russia at UN Security Council - @Reuters

10 mins ago by editor

34 klys  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:15:41am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

OT - Launch of Delta IV Heavy at Vandenberg in 5 minutes

Tea party, we are watching you!

Please pretend you didn’t just watch the live stream of a rocket carrying a spy satellite.

35 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:15:51am

re: #31 lawhawk

The company doesn’t make it easy to figure out but Reuters reports that more than half of Walmart employees are on the company’s health care plan.

I am thinking that Reuters was simply told that by a Walmart spokesperson, but I doubt that it’s true.

36 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:18:02am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Of course they do. Can’t have a successful black woman speaking in favor of MLK.

37 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:19:05am
38 calochortus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:21:06am

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Watch wingnuts heads explode!
Except: most Walmart employees do not qualify for benefits.

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But where will the conservatives shop now?

39 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:21:11am
40 jaunte  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:21:36am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

where are all the Republicans?

In opposition.

41 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:23:04am

Heh.

42 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:23:32am
43 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:23:52am
44 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:24:04am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Too bad George W is not there. George H.W. is not in good health. Sensenbrenner (sp) would have been a good R to have there given his support of the VRA.

45 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:24:52am

re: #42 Charles Johnson

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Because their message is so in tune with MLK, they don’t need to show up the anniversary service, it would be like bragging…

/

46 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:25:15am
47 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:26:11am

re: #43 Lidane

What a sad day for a sad and miserable man—despite all the Teabag threats and shouting the ACA passed anyway.

48 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:26:20am
49 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:27:37am

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

The Repubs are missing a golden opportunity. MLK and most blacks used to be Repubs before the party flipped.

he got the first part right and the rest is utter BS

50 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:29:19am

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

I think that it’s possible that more than half are eligible for the health care benefits, but far fewer use them because of the high costs to them and skimpy benefits.

51 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:30:16am

#lnyhbt is full of racist derp

52 Mattand  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:31:18am

re: #46 Lidane

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Wow. I’d love for the conservatives here to defend that graphic.

If you had any doubt that Fox foments racial antagonism for their core audience of old white folk, that should take care of it.

53 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:31:49am

But for most of today’s crop of GOPteabag officials there is nothing to celebrate in this day, it serving as a precursor to the great Civil Rights and legislative achievements (BIG GOVERNMENT) that were to come over the next three years. No doubt they see this day 50 years ago as the source of the country’s ills. And for all the 60’s hate that permeates much of the rightwing, this day is an awkward reminder of what good was done during that decade.

54 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:32:37am

re: #46 Lidane

OF COURSE RAP MUSIC IS TEH PROBLEM!!!!11!!! LOOK AT WHAT IT MADE MILEY DO!!!11!!!111!

55 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:32:53am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

Hey, we’re the real victims here!!

56 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:33:31am
57 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:34:05am

I hope the stupid Republicans who decided to not show up to this event realize that many white people along with Asians and Hispanics know they are not there and the true image it sends to everyone.

Reince Priebus your doing a heck of a job!

They might as well announce today is the end of their party.

Come to think of it, I would celebrate that big time.

58 danarchy  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:34:10am

re: #44 Bulworth

Too bad George W is not there. George H.W. is not in good health. Sensenbrenner (sp) would have been a good R to have there given his support of the VRA.

I know W had surgery a couple weeks ago to have stent put in an artery. Not sure what the recovery time is for something like that, but it may be why he isn’t there.

59 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:34:18am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

OF COURSE RAP MUSIC IS TEH PROBLEM!!!!11!!! LOOK AT WHAT IT MADE MILEY DO!!!11!!!111!

Gangsta Folk Rap is the worst.

Youtube Video

60 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:34:34am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

And droopy pantzs!

61 darthstar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:35:01am

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

Is that Megyn? Hard to tell their spokesmodels apart.

I hope the two guests call her “Miss Kelly” every time they address her.

62 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:35:41am

Under President James Buchanan, the African-American unemployment rate was 0!!!!

63 Targetpractice  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:36:08am

re: #55 Bulworth

Hey, we’re the real victims here!!

50 years later and all they can talk about is how bad it is for white people in this country now that “coloreds” are treated as human beings.

64 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:36:23am

The First ‘Dream’

Weeks before Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. spoke in the shadow of the Lincoln Memorial, he shared his ‘dream’ with marchers in Detroit. Few knew it was a dry run for one of the famous orations ever

65 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:36:25am

re: #52 Mattand

Hey we’re just pointing out what some people say!!

66 jaunte  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:36:31am

re: #62 Vicious Babushka

His heart seems troubled.

67 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:36:51am

Fox News memo for today:

AS THIS IS THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF MARTIN LUTHER KING JR’S SPEECH IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT WE HAVE ALL 4 BLACK PEOPLE ON OUR PAYROLL AVAILABLE FOR APPEARANCES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

68 Mattand  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:37:03am

re: #58 danarchy

I know W had surgery a couple weeks ago to have stent put in an artery. Not sure what the recovery time is for something like that, but it may be why he isn’t there.

Fair enough. Although I’m betting John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and John McCain, among others, aren’t there.

69 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:37:20am

re: #58 danarchy

I know W had surgery a couple weeks ago to have stent put in an artery. Not sure what the recovery time is for something like that, but it may be why he isn’t there.

I was going to ask where the rest of them were, before I realized there aren’t any. Outside of infirm HW and quasi-rehabilitated W, there aren’t any nationally-known Republicans who aren’t absolutely toxic to a large fraction of society.

70 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:38:19am

MOAR DERP

71 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:39:27am

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

Who’s the African-American woman?

72 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:39:40am

They want to talk about how their party championed the end of slavery and several early civil rights measures and really that’s something that is commendable about the Republican Party. But on the other hand, we can’t forget that the party ran away from Civil Rights because they saw the anger growing in the South and other parts of the country towards the Democratic Party for embracing it and ran with it. And yes Ronald Reagan deserves to be heavily criticized for that as does Nixon, Goldwater, Bush I, and countless other Republicans. They also need to be criticized for continuing to see GLBT citizens as second class citizens not deserving the same rights under the law.

73 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:39:58am

re: #69 erik_t

I was going to ask where the rest of them were, before I realized there aren’t any. Outside of infirm HW and quasi-rehabilitated W, there aren’t any nationally-known Republicans who aren’t absolutely toxic to a large fraction of society.

Condi Rice maybe? Laura Bush? There had to have been a few that would have been suitable invitees.

74 celticdragon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:40:53am

re: #16 Single-handed sailor

OT - Launch of Delta IV Heavy at Vandenberg in 5 minutes

I used to love watching the launches from Vandenburg at sunset when I lived In Yucaipa near Redlands. I saw the Hubble go up at night, and it was frakking awesome to see the stage separation, even from over a hundred miles away.

75 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:40:55am

re: #59 Kragar

Gangsta Folk Rap is the worst.

Youtube Video

76 celticdragon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:41:51am
Julian Bond says several Republican leaders were invited to speak at the march today but declined.

Afraid that the blah will rub off on them before primary season starts. Goddamned cowards.

77 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:42:36am

Cue the ‘splodey heads:

78 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:42:41am

Great speech from Bill Clinton.

79 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:42:41am

re: #72 HappyWarrior

They want to talk about how their party championed the end of slavery and several early civil rights measures and really that’s something that is commendable about the Republican Party. But on the other hand, we can’t forget that the party ran away from Civil Rights because they saw the anger growing in the South and other parts of the country towards the Democratic Party for embracing it and ran with it. And yes Ronald Reagan deserves to be heavily criticized for that as does Nixon, Goldwater, Bush I, and countless other Republicans. They also need to be criticized for continuing to see GLBT citizens as second class citizens not deserving the same rights under the law.

There is no point in arguing these nuances with the modern GOP, they have their “Democrats started the KKK” and “Keeping blacks on the modern plantations” memes down, I recall it several years back under this ludicrous Pyjamas Media screed on “Why do blacks vote for Democrats?”

Because free stuff, obviously…and ACORN

/

80 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:42:46am

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Condi Rice maybe? Laura Bush? There had to have been a few that would have been suitable invitees.

It would have to be someone with some relevance to the day 50 years ago.

Most potential options don’t want to say what they were up to that day, year, decade, or now.

81 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:43:16am

Really if your lesson from the Civil Rights era is but the Democrats were the real racists, you haven’t learned shit. The fact of the matter is civil rights was and always will be about progress versus the status quo. The Civil Rights marchers who marched on Washington a half century ago were fighting against the status quo of the times that said one’s race could be used to segregate them. And today we fight the same battle against people who say it’s acceptable to deny someone the same rights under the law because of sexuality, gender, etc. To me, civil rights is the best argument liberalism has against conservatism. Where as the liberal sees the future, the conservative is content with the present because he fears change.

82 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:43:19am

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

They don’t seem happy…..

83 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:43:43am

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Great speech from Bill Clinton.

A great democracy does not make it harder to vote than to buy an assault weapon.

If you have enough assault weapons, you don’t need to vote! People do what you want out of fear!!!

/

84 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:44:24am

re: #78 Charles Johnson

Great speech from Bill Clinton.

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He is so right but of course the NRA will cry their shitty little pants over this comment because you know gun owners are like blacks under Jim Crow.

85 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:44:39am

re: #82 Bulworth

They don’t seem happy…..

Becasue even their goober pea-sized brains undersatnd that without MLK there would be no Obama, and they are not at all pleased about either.

86 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:45:30am

Barton: Atheism Is A Religion And Violation of Separation Of Church And State

Rep. John Fleming was the guest on “WallBuilders Live” today, discussing his effort to prevent the military from creating positions for atheist chaplains. After Fleming alleged that the proposal itself was nothing more than an effort to drive religion out of the military, David Barton blamed the entire thing on the Supreme Court, delivering a convoluted argument alleging that atheism is itself a religion and therefore should be banned from public school in the name of separation of church and state:

87 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:45:33am

re: #70 Vicious Babushka

Obama dares to stand on the same spot as MLK - if ever you needed proof. The mans a psychopath.
pic.twitter.com/NGHI5CIjbF
— Brother Anon (@oqoco)
August 28, 2013

Why is Obummer allowed to stand at Lincoln Memorial??!?!1

88 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:45:36am

re: #77 Lidane

Cue the ‘splodey heads:

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Perspective from a living legend. But I think about it and realize my own parents grew up under segregation. I never knew my Dad’s dad but the one story about him that has stuck with me is a strong scolding he gave my Dad after he called my uncle a little n-word.

89 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:46:12am

re: #86 Kragar

So basically, David Barton knows as much about atheism as he does history.

90 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:46:51am

Winning hat.

91 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:46:53am

Looks like its a big day for twittering twerps to display their true feelings.re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

If you have enough assault weapons, you don’t need to vote! People do what you want out of fear!!!

/

And their fear makes them arm themselves. Definition of Vicious Cycle.

92 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:46:53am

re: #87 Bulworth

Why is Obummer allowed to stand at Lincoln Memorial??!?!1

He was invited, yeah how dare he.// Idiots have nothing but hatred for this man. 50 years ago they would have been directed the same hatred at MLK but because they’re so eager to claim MLK as their own, they’re too cowardly to admit that their hatred at Obama is rooted in the same hatred they have for MLK and anyone who has ever championed civil rights.

93 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:46:59am

re: #86 Kragar

Barton: Atheism Is A Religion And Violation of Separation Of Church And State

And abstinence is a form of sex and should not be taught in sex ed…

94 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:47:23am

re: #77 Lidane

Why does this guy hate Amercia?

//

95 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:47:32am

re: #91 ObserverArt

Looks like its a big day for twittering twerps to display their true feelings.

And their fear makes them arm themselves. Definition of Vicious profit-generating Cycle.

FTFY

96 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:50:27am

re: #95 Sol Berdinowitz

FTFY

Yes…fear is very profitable. Sadly.

97 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:50:47am

Nice to hear MLK’s sister emphasize ‘sisterhood’ with the brotherhood.

98 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:51:02am
99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:51:49am

re: #97 wrenchwench

Nice to hear MLK’s sister emphasize ‘sisterhood’ with the brotherhood.

Didn’t know she was still with us. And yes that is good to hear.

100 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:52:17am
101 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:52:34am

re: #68 Mattand

Fair enough. Although I’m betting John Boehner, Mitch McConnell, and John McCain, among others, aren’t there.

They’re all waiting for the spirit of George Washington to materialize from the Washington Monument and yell for all the whippersnappers to get off his lawn.
//

102 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:53:01am

re: #100 NJDhockeyfan

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The country doesn’t stop being great because you don’t like who’s president shit for brains, Trump.

103 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:53:22am

re: #96 ObserverArt

Yes…fear is very profitable. Sadly.

Look what Syria is doing for the price of oil…

104 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:53:58am
105 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:54:37am

re: #99 HappyWarrior

Didn’t know she was still with us. And yes that is good to hear.

85 years old. Great speaker.

106 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:56:48am

re: #105 wrenchwench

85 years old. Great speaker.

Awesome hat, too.

107 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:56:51am
108 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:57:01am

I actually kind of wish that conservatives would be honest that many of them had contempt for MLK’s message while he was alive and in many of the early years after his death. Lest we forget that Reagan threatened to veto the MLK birthday holiday bill and that Jesse Helms filibustered it.

109 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:57:07am

Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx reflects on the 50th anniversary of the MOW - and how transit played a key role in igniting the civil rights movement, and how transit/transportation still plays a role:

When escaped slaves sought their freedom, they traveled on the Underground Railroad.

In the mid-1950s, a young woman who sat down and refused to get up—she did it on a transit bus. And the boycott of the Montgomery, Alabama, bus system resulted in changes that spread across the South.

The Civil Rights Movement was about all Americans having access to the same opportunities. And our transportation system connects people to those opportunities.

But unfortunately, transportation also has a history of dividing us. In many places, railroads have served to identify people who were living on “the wrong side of the tracks.” And rarely in the last century did an urban interstate highway plow through a neighborhood that wasn’t characterized as poor.

The challenge we face today is how to take a system that at one time codified bias and ensure that it now connects people, creates jobs, and allows people to grab a rung on what the President calls a “ladder of opportunity.”

In 2013, many communities are tearing down those divisions and building bridges.

110 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:57:34am
111 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:57:51am

re: #109 lawhawk

Secretary of Transportation Anthony Foxx reflects on the 50th anniversary of the MOW - and how transit played a key role in igniting the civil rights movement, and how transit/transportation still plays a role:

Yep. Good bit.

112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:58:02am

re: #107 Gus

Drone derangement syndrome.

113 BongCrodny  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 11:59:04am

re: #100 NJDhockeyfan

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I have a dream that one day Donald Trump will SHUT THE FUCK UP.

114 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:00:01pm

re: #113 BongCrodny

Isn’t the whole “Trump University” thing fraud?

He should be in jail pending initial hearings.

115 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:00:16pm

Bernice got the volume, but missed some of the other speaking talents.

116 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:00:49pm

Interesting watching my Twitter feed right now. Lots of MOW50 related tweets and then…something dingy about sports or what some celebrity said about or to another celebrity.

117 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:00:49pm

re: #113 BongCrodny

I have a dream that one day Donald Trump will SHUT THE FUCK UP.

and my children will be able to turn on TV and not hear his voice, free at last, free at last. But really what kind of asshole turns the 50th anniversary of arguably the most important speech in American history into his own soapbox for whining that America isn’t great anymore.

118 piratedan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:01:09pm

it’s the complete and abject lack of recognition that in the 1960’s that the GOP employed it’s “southern strategy” and what it meant for politics in that the GOP decided that tapping into the racial intolerance that was evidently in place throughout the South (and in more than a few enclaves in the North) was a viable strategy for keeping up electorally after the debacle that was McCarthyism. They refuse to acknowledge it, it never happened so that they can keep their ideological blinders intact. This willful rejection of their own past and then refusing to learn from it is at the heart of corruption of the GOP, only secondary to their adoption of theocratic fascist platform in order to maintain the fear mongering and culture war schtick.

I wish they could just sit down and have a good cry and realize that they’re no longer a political party, they’re a fucking cult.

119 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:01:13pm

re: #114 ProTARDISLiberal

Isn’t the whole “Trump University” thing fraud?

He should be in jail pending initial hearings.

Yeah NY state AG’s office is investigating his crooked ass.

120 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:01:51pm

Maj. Nidal Hasan sentenced to death for killing 13 in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009. Well, not entirely surprised, but don’t expect him to get the sentence carried out anytime soon. He’ll be waiting a good long time before the military moves to carry it out.

121 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:02:11pm

Is there anyone in Congress more inspiring than John Lewis? Not often I can say I admire a politician but I admire the hell out of John Lewis.

122 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:02:24pm

re: #58 danarchy

I know W had surgery a couple weeks ago to have stent put in an artery. Not sure what the recovery time is for something like that, but it may be why he isn’t there.

I question the timing.

123 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:02:27pm

re: #114 ProTARDISLiberal

Trump is too wealthy and well connected for jail. Sad, but true. Even if he did somehow get a prison sentence, I guarantee you it would be a in a nice, low security Club Fed somewhere.

124 celticdragon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:04:54pm

re: #83 Sol Berdinowitz

If you have enough assault weapons, you don’t need to vote! People do what you want out of fear!!!

/

If there is one thing that the wingnuts have taken to heart, it is the Maoist maxim that “Power flows from the barrel of a gun”.

125 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:05:45pm

re: #119 HappyWarrior

The NYP tried to cover for Trump by claiming that the AG should investigate other college claims about employment and ability to get hired after completing college, but Trump is low-hanging fruit since it amounts to little more than a scam to generate profits for no one other than Trump himself. He’s got investigations and lawsuits open in CA as well as NY.

Trump also claims that Schneiderman should go after billionaire fraudsters on Wall Street (ignoring that he was himself one of those fraudsters who let others drown in red ink in his casino businesses - 4x the bankruptcies).

126 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:06:24pm

re: #120 lawhawk

Maj. Nidal Hasan sentenced to death for killing 13 in Fort Hood, Texas in 2009. Well, not entirely surprised, but don’t expect him to get the sentence carried out anytime soon. He’ll be waiting a good long time before the military moves to carry it out.

I hope it’s a really long time. Sitting in a wheelchair in a cell all day has to be a bitch.

127 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:07:27pm

re: #125 lawhawk

The NYP tried to cover for Trump by claiming that the AG should investigate other college claims about employment and ability to get hired after completing college, but Trump is low-hanging fruit since it amounts to little more than a scam to generate profits for no one other than Trump himself. He’s got investigations and lawsuits open in CA as well as NY.

Trump also claims that Schneiderman should go after billionaire fraudsters on Wall Street (ignoring that he was himself one of those fraudsters who let others drown in red ink in his casino businesses - 4x the bankruptcies).

He’s a douche. I’m interested in seeing what happens but really not expecting much. I’d be happy honestly if he stopped gotten treated like someone deserving of credibility. The only thing he has credibility to speak on is why comb overs are bad ideas.

128 EPR-radar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:07:51pm

re: #10 Amory Blaine

National Review 1957

Why the South Must Prevail

Thanks for the link. Enabling of racism and mindless adherence to a racist tradition is ever so much better when dressed up in ten-dollar words like “sublunary”. //dripping

WFB is actually defending jury nullification of voting rights laws here. His ‘justification’ for this appears to be the threat of violence from the KKK et al. It’s actually worse that I thought it would be, and it’s not like I have any positive expectations for anything the National Review has ever produced.

129 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:08:09pm

The derp must flow.

130 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:09:11pm

re: #126 NJDhockeyfan

I hope it’s a really long time. Sitting in a wheelchair in a cell all day has to be a bitch.

Heh.

Look at the fate of Richard Ramirez, the Night Stalker. He died of natural causes on Death Row in San Quentin.

If the military death penalty is anything like the civilian version, yeah, Maj. Hasan will be there a looooong time.

131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:09:47pm

I put up a page of all the ragederp that’s being spewed on Teh Twitters right now, but it got to be too much even for me.

132 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:10:09pm

re: #126 NJDhockeyfan

I hope it’s a really long time. Sitting in a wheelchair in a cell all day has to be a bitch.

Schedule his execution for the day AFTER he dies of old age. Heh.

133 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:10:25pm

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

I put up a page of all the ragederp that’s being spewed on Teh Twitters right now, but it got to be too much even for me.

Don’t say I didn’t warn you…

134 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:10:57pm
135 SchadenBoner  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:11:23pm

re: #86 Kragar

Barton: Atheism Is A Religion And Violation of Separation Of Church And State

So, let’s grant the premise. Atheism is a religion but one undeserving of first amendment protection because…?

136 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:12:13pm

It’s not about party it’s about ideology. Conservatives hated Martin Luther King , they hate Obama as well. They are using MLK in vile ways to cover their racism and hatred of the poor.

137 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:14:43pm

re: #135 SchadenBoner

So, let’s grant the premise. Atheism is a religion but one undeserving of first amendment protection because…?

And I want my damn tax exempt status!

138 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:14:48pm
139 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:14:52pm

When can I donate to the church? Tax free of course.

140 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:18:19pm

re: #136 Amory Blaine

It’s not about party it’s about ideology. Conservatives hated Martin Luther King , they hate Obama as well. They are using MLK in vile ways to cover their racism and hatred of the poor.

Yep.

141 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:19:39pm


Just one email? WOW

142 Dr. Matt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:20:48pm

Can I get a ‘hell yeah!’?

143 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:22:13pm

re: #142 Dr. Matt

Can I get a ‘hell yeah!’?

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Want.

144 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:23:14pm

OT, but I wonder if any are open here in CO.

RYCBARM? (Run, You Clever Boy, And Remember Me)
MYTARDIS?
TTYPE40?


Anything else I missed?

145 abolitionist  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:23:34pm

re: #86 Kragar

Barton: Atheism Is A Religion And Violation of Separation Of Church And State

Clearly, atheists should not be allowed to hold public office either. /

146 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:23:49pm
147 sagehen  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:25:04pm

re: #17 Vicious Babushka

What is the percentage of Walmart employees who actually receive benefits?

At corporate headquarters, probably all of them.

At the stores… 20%?

148 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:26:13pm

re: #146 Lidane

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We’re sick of you too Lonegan and your weird belief that smoking cigars and drinking scotch makes you more of a man than Cory Booker.And look ma, another conservative who calls himself a libertarian because he knows the conservative label is shit in his state.

149 calochortus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:26:27pm

re: #121 HappyWarrior

Is there anyone in Congress more inspiring than John Lewis? Not often I can say I admire a politician but I admire the hell out of John Lewis.

I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I heard him interviewed yesterday. A truly great man.

150 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:27:11pm
151 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:27:21pm

TCOTs and Dudebros not happy with today’s rememberances.

152 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:27:43pm

re: #144 ProTARDISLiberal

CYBRMNFVR
SILENCFALL

153 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:28:26pm

re: #149 calochortus

I was thinking pretty much the same thing when I heard him interviewed yesterday. A truly great man.

Totally. He’s one member of Congress whose words I will look at what he has to say and take interest. I felt the same way about the late Tom Lantos of California.

154 Ming  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:28:32pm

re: #25 Amory Blaine

Yes. Milwaukee is a bastion of bigotry and segregation in the north.

In The Audacity of Hope, Obama writes about discrimination faced by African-Americans, after they moved north, in housing, education, employment, etc. For many years, I didn’t fully appreciate how bad this discrimination was.

155 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:28:34pm

re: #145 abolitionist

Clearly, atheists should not be allowed to hold public office either. /

But that would be unconstitutional if atheism was considered a religion. As long as it is not considered a religion it might not be an acceptable excuse to not let the person hold public office but it wouldn’t be unconstitutional.


Article 6, paragraph 3 of US Constitution :

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

156 calochortus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:28:41pm

Could we lock up Trump and Hasan together for a little while? Suitable punishment for both.

157 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:29:58pm

re: #141 NJDhockeyfan

Sometimes the easiest way to breach a secure site is to simply ask for the password - phishing is pervasive because it works. People, even those in tech businesses don’t always realize they’re giving away their passwords/critical info to bad actors.

158 Ming  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:30:00pm

re: #30 darthstar

So Fox found a black guy with so little respect for MLK that he’d come on the air and give an opposing opinion?

I wonder how much they paid him.

159 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:30:03pm

re: #155 Eventual Carrion

But that would be unconstitutional if atheism was considered a religion. As long as it is not considered a religion it might not be an acceptable excuse to not let the person hold public office but it wouldn’t be unconstitutional.

Article 6, paragraph 3 of US Constitution :

Well it’s time to burn the Constitution and replace it with the Bible, David Barton.//

160 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:30:31pm

re: #151 Bulworth

TCOTs and Dudebros not happy with today’s rememberances.

TCOTs and Dudebros can go fuck themselves sideways with a 2x4.

161 sagehen  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:18pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

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The Repubs are missing a golden opportunity. MLK and most blacks used to be Repubs before the party flipped.

um… that flip was in 1927 (“the day the levees broke”), before MLK was even born; it took decades for R’s to claw their way back to 30% of blacks (most of which was Eisenhower’s doing). And then most of that 30% turned right back around after LBJ signed the civil rights act and voting right act.

162 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:21pm
163 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:37pm

Is there such a thing as Republican dudebros?

164 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:43pm

We’re marching.

165 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:58pm
166 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:32:59pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

Awesome hat, too.

Reminds me of the folks I would watch attend a small black church in my childhood neighborhood. The ladies in their Sunday going-to-church hats and finest dresses.

I lived in a mixed neighborhood. Blacks, poor Whites, First Generation Middle Europeans (Russian, Polish, Slovak) made up the population during the 50s and 60s. Being Catholic, for some reason my father insisted on going to the earliest Mass offered on Sunday…6:30 AM!

After church, I’d catch a few more Zs then I’d get on my bike and make sure I’d ride around the street around the aforementioned church about 10 am. After about 15 minutes or so, the Hammond Organ would start to swell, the bass and drums would begin their rhythm, the pastor’s voice would rise and the congregation would join in with tambourines and hand claps…the voices answering to the music and the sermon.

I would wonder why I had to go to boring old Catholic church when these folks were having fun and getting it on with the Lord!!! One hour in my church and everyone couldn’t wait to hit that door…4 hours at the little Black church down the street and they were still raising the roof.

I thank that experience and others like hearing local kids walking down the streets singing Temptations, Smokey Robinson and other Detroit and Philly soul in multiple part harmonies for my love of good soulful music and for learning that you didn’t have to have a whole lot of material goods to have a good time.

And then on Monday I’d march off to Catholic school knowing that none of my friends would ever understand because for the most part they were not allowed to visit my as I lived on the other side of the tracks.

I am thankful for that experience of good simple times…this day is bringing back all those memories of sharing my youth with Black friends and neighbors. And also juxtaposing my neighborhood life with my Catholic Prep Schoolboy day life and friends. A true eduction I am glad I had.

167 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:33:15pm

re: #163 Eclectic Cyborg

Is there such a thing as Republican dudebros?

They’re called libertarians.

168 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:34:13pm
169 BongCrodny  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:35:05pm

re: #144 ProTARDISLiberal

OT, but I wonder if any are open here in CO.

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RYCBARM? (Run, You Clever Boy, And Remember Me)
MYTARDIS?
TTYPE40?

Anything else I missed?

“12THDR”

170 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:35:10pm

re: #152 lawhawk

Only 7 spaces available in Colorado. Unless I misread.

Also, considering I belong to the fraction of the fandom that has 11 as their favorite doctor, and Clara as the favorite companion, it puts it toward the top of the list.

The Whovians tend to divide up into little groups based on favorite Doctor and Favorite Companion.

The Queen, for example, belongs to 9th’s Group (Hopefully, she is as sharp as I think she is, and prefers someone over Rose.)

Oh! Another! Clara11 or vice versa.

171 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:36:38pm

re: #161 sagehen

um… that flip was in 1927 (“the day the levees broke”), before MLK was even born; it took decades for R’s to claw their way back to 30% of blacks (most of which was Eisenhower’s doing). And then most of that 30% turned right back around after LBJ signed the civil rights act and voting right act.

You’d be right but I think the change in party registration really started in the 60’s. And the 1927 flood is a key event that no one really talks about. If Coolidge hadn’t been such a cold hearted bastard, who knows. BTW though, I’ve read about Ike getting as much as 40% in both elections. Nixon in 1960 I believe was the last R to get over 25% of the AA vote. As I argued in Kragar’s page thread on this issue, the Republicans forfeited any moral authority on the issue the second they nominated Goldwater and when Nixon embraced the Southern Strategy. African Americans saw that and saw what their party’s soul was turning into and they didn’t like it.

172 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:36:49pm

re: #117 HappyWarrior

and my children will be able to turn on TV and not hear his voice, free at last, free at last. But really what kind of asshole turns the 50th anniversary of arguably the most important speech in American history into his own soapbox for whining that America isn’t great anymore.

Narcissus.

173 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:36:58pm

Good speech by Obama.

174 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:37:24pm

re: #172 ObserverArt

I think Narcissus is insulted at being compared to Trump.

175 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:37:36pm

re: #173 Amory Blaine

Good speech by Obama.

Which means the GOP and the rest of the RWNJ howler monkeys will be derping about it until 2017.

176 sagehen  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:37:53pm

re: #73 Eclectic Cyborg

Condi Rice maybe? Laura Bush? There had to have been a few that would have been suitable invitees.

Colin Powell.

177 erik_t  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:38:51pm

re: #176 sagehen

Colin Powell.

Colin Powell is poisonous to Republicans.

178 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:39:32pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

You’d be right but I think the change in party registration really started in the 60’s. And the 1927 flood is a key event that no one really talks about. If Coolidge hadn’t been such a cold hearted bastard, who knows. BTW though, I’ve read about Ike getting as much as 40% in both elections. Nixon in 1960 I believe was the last R to get over 25% of the AA vote. As I argued in Kragar’s page thread on this issue, the Republicans forfeited any moral authority on the issue the second they nominated Goldwater and when Nixon embraced the Southern Strategy. African Americans saw that and saw what their party’s soul was turning into and they didn’t like it.

Remember that until after WWII most Blacks lived in the Jim Crow South. Their party affiliation meant only that they couldn’t vote for Republicans instead of not being able to vote for Democrats.

179 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:40:16pm

re: #170 ProTARDISLiberal

XTRMIN8

180 Ming  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:40:26pm

In 2001, I visited the Capitol Building in Washington D.C., and went to the Pantheon, which has statues and artifacts from a very small, select number (maybe 10 - 20) of great Americans (e.g. Washington, Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant). I’ve always thought of the Pantheon as one of America’s sacred places. I remember seeing the sculpture of Martin Luther King Jr.

Now that Republicans have turned their backs on the 50th anniversary of Dr. King’s speech, they’ve really completed their transition to being thoroughly anti-American.

181 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:41:06pm

re: #178 Decatur Deb

Remember that until after WWII most Blacks lived in the Jim Crow South. Their party affiliation meant only that they couldn’t vote for Republicans instead of not being able to vote for Democrats.

Right.

182 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:41:58pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

What about the 1927 flood?

183 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:42:41pm
184 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:44:12pm

re: #174 ProTARDISLiberal

I think Narcissus is insulted at being compared to Trump.

Probably. There is only room for one. And only room for one The Donald.

185 EPR-radar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:44:12pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

Speaking of Calvin Coolidge, someone’s been polishing his halo in Wikipedia:

Elected in his own right in 1924, he gained a reputation as a small-government conservative. Under his administration the economy grew rapidly, commerce expanded, the national debt was reduced, the budget was in surplus, taxes were lowered significantly and the federal government shrank both in absolute terms as well as relative to state governments and the growing private sector. Coolidge restored public confidence in the White House after the scandals of his predecessor’s administration. His policy of normalcy, or normality, stands in marked difference to the government activism of his successor Herbert Hoover, leading to a deficit and probably greatly deepening the Great Depression, and the “bold persistent experimentation” of Hoover’s successor Franklin D Roosevelt that helped established entitlements and the welfare state [1]. At his inaugural address in 1924 Cooldige echoed Harding’s “no new experiments” by stating that “if we wish to erect new structures, we must have a definite knowledge of the old foundations”.[2] While overseeing a lightly regulated, rapidly growing economy yielding increased tax revenues despite lower rates, Coolidge on the other hand spent great efforts in also reducing federal spending. In his weekly meetings with the director of the recently created budget office Herbert Lord, Coolidge cut federal spending from around $3.2 billion in 1923 to $3.053 billion in 1924.[3]

The last time I saw such a concentration of RW talking points, I was browsing National Review Online.

186 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:44:23pm

re: #182 Bulworth

What about the 1927 flood?

en.wikipedia.org

187 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:45:21pm

re: #185 EPR-radar

Speaking of Calvin Coolidge, someone’s been polishing his halo in Wikipedia:

The last time I saw such a concentration of RW talking points, I was browsing National Review Online.

I am on record here as saying Coolidge was the worst president of the 20’s. Considering that decade was filled with them, that’s quite an accomplishment. Of course, the right today loves him because business > human beings.

188 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:45:31pm
189 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:45:38pm
190 Amory Blaine  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:46:31pm

Conservatives use of the talking point “government/democrat plantation” is especially nauseating.

191 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:46:31pm

re: #187 HappyWarrior

I am on record here as saying Coolidge was the worst president of the 20’s. Considering that decade was filled with them, that’s quite an accomplishment. Of course, the right today loves him because business > human beings.

Warren G. Harding was the worst U.S. President of the 20th century.

192 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:46:42pm

Glenn Beck Has It All Figured Out: Military Action Against Syria Is A Progressive Plot To Establish One World Government - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

193 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:47:53pm

re: #191 Vicious Babushka

Warren G. Harding was the worst U.S. President of the 20th century.

A fair point but Coolidge had six years to fuck up the country where as Harding only had two.

194 calochortus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:48:04pm

re: #191 Vicious Babushka

Warren G. Harding was the worst U.S. President of the 20th century.

But he just looked so very presidential. People couldn’t help voting for him.

195 ObserverArt  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:48:19pm

Gotta run. It been fun watching another part of history and also watching the Republicans embarrass themselves by not partaking. And thanks for the space to share some personal experiences. It really means a lot to put this day in perspective for me.

196 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:48:27pm
197 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:48:28pm

re: #192 Kragar

Glenn Beck Has It All Figured Out: Military Action Against Syria Is A Progressive Plot To Establish One World Government - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

I’ve been reading about conspiracy theories lately. Beck is pretty much emulating some pretty old stuff here. Goes all the way back to WWI.

198 Kragar  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:49:06pm

re: #197 HappyWarrior

I’ve been reading about conspiracy theories lately. Beck is pretty much emulating some pretty old stuff here. Goes all the way back to WWI.

“We have proof that the Jews were behind the bombing of Pearl Harbor!”

199 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:51:29pm

re: #170 ProTARDISLiberal

Only 7 spaces available in Colorado. Unless I misread.

Also, considering I belong to the fraction of the fandom that has 11 as their favorite doctor, and Clara as the favorite companion, it puts it toward the top of the list.

The Whovians tend to divide up into little groups based on favorite Doctor and Favorite Companion.

The Queen, for example, belongs to 9th’s Group (Hopefully, she is as sharp as I think she is, and prefers someone over Rose.)

Oh! Another! Clara11 or vice versa.

nbcnews.com

Ooo.. the beginning of the Cybermats!

You saw it here first!

200 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:51:30pm

re: #198 Kragar

“We have proof that the Jews were behind the bombing of Pearl Harbor!”

Da Jooz were also behind 9/11. Or they had two weeks notice. Or something.

Same anti-Semitic shit, different year.

201 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:53:22pm

re: #198 Kragar

“We have proof that the Jews were behind the bombing of Pearl Harbor!”

Yeah shit like that.

202 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:53:38pm

re: #200 Lidane

Da Jooz were also behind 9/11. Or they had two weeks notice. Or something.

Same anti-Semitic shit, different year.

All the Zionists were told not to go to work that day.//

203 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:54:15pm

re: #186 HappyWarrior

Yeah been meaning to read that John Barry book.

204 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:55:15pm

re: #192 Kragar

I thought GOPs wanted PBO to ACT or else he’d be a sissy or something. /

205 wrenchwench  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:55:24pm

He got some great shots.

206 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:55:50pm

re: #203 Bulworth

Yeah been meaning to read that John Barry book.

I’m reading David Aaronivitch’s.

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:56:06pm

re: #202 HappyWarrior

All the Zionists were told not to go to work that day.//

And of course it’s simply a co-inky-dink that UFOs are the same shape as a kippah.
////

208 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:56:39pm

re: #204 Bulworth

I thought GOPs wanted PBO to ACT or else he’d be a sissy or something. /

It’s Wednesday. Tomorrow, Senator McCain will be demanding why President Obama hasn’t deployed every single soldier to Syria.

209 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:57:01pm

re: #207 Feline Fearless Leader

And of course it’s simply a co-inky-dink that UFOs are the same shape as a kippah.
////

You know Hitler, total Joose.

210 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:57:38pm

re: #185 EPR-radar

Speaking of Calvin Coolidge, someone’s been polishing his halo in Wikipedia:

The last time I saw such a concentration of RW talking points, I was browsing National Review Online.

fun reading the revision history on that:

Coolidge Wiki revision history

211 Lidane  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:57:41pm
212 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:58:38pm

The 20th century Civil Rights movement was constructed and implemented by Democratic Socialists who, though they had much more radical views on what they would have like to achieve, saw fit to compromise their ideals and goals with people much further to the right of them to get something done for the greater number of people who were suffering.

That’s the lesson conservatives can continue to ignore from the Civil Rights movement.

213 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:59:02pm

re: #211 Lidane

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He wouldn’t but not for the reasons why DeMint thinks. He’d have a problem since it wasn’t expansive enough but then again so would Richard Nixon.

214 Gus  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:59:28pm

re: #211 Lidane

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215 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:59:37pm

re: #212 Jeff In Ohio

The 20th century Civil Rights movement was constructed and implemented by Democratic Socialists who, though they had much more radical views on what they would have like to achieve, saw fit to compromise their ideals and goals with people much further to the right of them to get something done for the greater number of people who were suffering.

That’s the lesson conservatives can continue to ignore from the Civil Rights movement.

Yep. Good point.

216 BongCrodny  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 12:59:39pm

re: #199 Feline Fearless Leader

nbcnews.com

Ooo.. the beginning of the Cybermats!

You saw it here first!

Mini human brains grown from stem cells

I thought they were already doing that in Arizona.

217 A Mom Anon  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:01:23pm

re: #68 Mattand

My husband has had 5 stents(yes 5, sigh) put in his heart in 3 different procedures in an 18 month time frame. After the last one we were in Hawaii hiking up Diamond Head and up a mountain to see a waterfall within a week. It’s kind of amazing what they can do with the heart these days, angioplasties are so common the recovery time is pretty quick. The first one was the worst, and he was home in 4 days, back to work within 10.

Not that this has anything to do with W, he may have other complications, but heart stents, while obviously serious, are not nearly as invasive or take as long to recover from as in the past. He’s also kinda laid low since leaving office, so I didn’t expect to see him there, though it would have been nice to see that I think. The GOP isn’t there today because they hate the President and they’ve pandered to racists for too long and they KNOW it. This makes them look worse(if that’s possible) than they already do.

218 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:02:11pm

re: #199 Feline Fearless Leader

To the people doing biological research, Doctor Who and Final Fantasy VII should NOT be aspirations for the future.

219 Decatur Deb  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:02:50pm

re: #207 Feline Fearless Leader

And of course it’s simply a co-inky-dink that UFOs are the same shape as a kippah.
////

Have to find my kippah. And to refresh the goyisch protocol for a Reform shiva call. Wife’s old friend has just died, if Facebook is to be trusted.

220 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:02:53pm

John Lewis fans, if you didn’t know, he has a book out:
“March”

Congressman John Lewis (GA-5) is an American icon, one of the key figures of the civil rights movement. His commitment to justice and nonviolence has taken him from an Alabama sharecropper’s farm to the halls of Congress, from a segregated schoolroom to the 1963 March on Washington, and from receiving beatings from state troopers to receiving the Medal of Freedom from the first African-American president.

221 HappyWarrior  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:03:20pm

re: #220 Backwoods_Sleuth

John Lewis fans, if you didn’t know, he has a book out:
“March”

Thanks. I’ve been needing to read more books on this era.

222 Bulworth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:04:12pm

re: #210 Backwoods_Sleuth

Coolidge is the new conservahero. Reagan is so 1980’s.

223 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:04:24pm

re: #217 A Mom Anon

My husband has had 5 stents(yes 5, sigh) put in his heart in 3 different procedures in an 18 month time frame. After the last one we were in Hawaii hiking up Diamond Head and up a mountain to see a waterfall within a week. It’s kind of amazing what they can do with the heart these days, angioplasties are so common the recovery time is pretty quick. The first one was the worst, and he was home in 4 days, back to work within 10.

Not that this has anything to do with W, he may have other complications, but heart stents, while obviously serious, are not nearly as invasive or take as long to recover from as in the past. He’s also kinda laid low since leaving office, so I didn’t expect to see him there, though it would have been nice to see that I think. The GOP isn’t there today because they hate the President and they’ve pandered to racists for too long and they KNOW it. This makes them look worse(if that’s possible) than they already do.

My mother almost died on Christmas Day a few years ago. They put in a stent and she was back up doing her mom thing in just a few days.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:07:07pm

re: #221 HappyWarrior

Thanks. I’ve been needing to read more books on this era.

I just ordered the soft cover version. Tried to borrow it from the local library via Overdrive.com but it was in PDF format instead of the usual EPUB and I have an ancient Sony ereader that had a major conniption fit during the download process.
Just as well, I have a particular fondness for “real” books.

225 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:14:42pm

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

I just ordered the soft cover version. Tried to borrow it from the local library via Overdrive.com but it was in PDF format instead of the usual EPUB and I have an ancient Sony ereader that had a major conniption fit during the download process.
Just as well, I have a particular fondness for “real” books.

heh…the book was ordered with Amazon Prime’s two-day shipping. Just got my email confirmation saying estimated delivery date is Thursday, August 5.

I don’t think Amazon understands the concept of “two days”.

226 GeneJockey  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:18:35pm

re: #225 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…the book was ordered with Amazon Prime’s two-day shipping. Just got my email confirmation saying estimated delivery date is Thursday, August 5.

I don’t think Amazon understands the concept of “two days”.

One day, they ship. Some other day, it arrives.Two days, but not two sequential days.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:21:56pm

re: #226 GeneJockey

One day, they ship. Some other day, it arrives.Two days, but not two sequential days.

heh….true that!

228 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:33:06pm

re: #2 lawhawk

For all the talk that the GOP was behind the civil rights movement, rather odd that their leaders declined to participate in today’s gathering to honor the memory of the MOW and King’s inspirational speech.

It’s the fact that so many within the GOP are looking to roll back voting rights - access to the polls - that shows that there’s much to be done to preserve civil rights for all.

I didn’t know that they were invited and declined. Wow. Says it all about the current GOP.

229 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:46:20pm

re: #45 Sol Berdinowitz

Because their message is so in tune with MLK, they don’t need to show up the anniversary service, it would be like bragging…

/

Good joke.

230 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 1:59:36pm

re: #108 HappyWarrior

I actually kind of wish that conservatives would be honest that many of them had contempt for MLK’s message while he was alive and in many of the early years after his death. Lest we forget that Reagan threatened to veto the MLK birthday holiday bill and that Jesse Helms filibustered it.

That’s an excellent point. We should ask Repubs why Reagan and many Repubs were so against MLK’s holiday if he was a Repub.

231 CuriousLurker  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 2:00:41pm

re: #62 Vicious Babushka

Under President James Buchanan, the African-American unemployment rate was 0!!!!

[Embedded content]

Drive-by comment - Ammunition from Pew with which to shoot down future MLK derp (lots of graphs, so good for Twitter):

King’s “I have a dream” speech, by the numbers

Martin Luther King Jr.’s speech 50 years ago today on Washington D.C.’s National Mall and Memorial Parks has become one of the most famous, and quoted, pieces of oratory in U.S. history (though that wasn’t apparent to everyone at the time). But how well have the aspirations King so memorably expressed been realized? We ran some numbers to try to find out. […]

Gotta run—later, lizards.

232 Paul Canning  Wed, Aug 28, 2013 4:49:43pm

The documentary about Bayard Rustin is available to vie for free today (28th) and tomorrow > worldchannel.org

Here’s my article about Rustin, with some more video t.co


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