China’s president calls for propaganda war on Internet

In China Big Brother reads ALL your tweets
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China’s new president, Xi Jinping, is showing signs of favoring even less freedom in China than his recent predecessor. He is distrustful of Western influences on the Chinese population, from all appearances. Universities are now forbidden to discuss “universal values,” like freedom of the press and democracy.

His latest target is the Internet, specifically, China’s version of Twitter, Sina Weibo. Xi, speaking tothe Communist Party’s propaganda chiefs, called on them to build “a strong army” to “seize the ground of new media”.

Sina Weibo is more free-wheeling than China’s Web-based blogs and websites, since tweets can become viral in a matter of seconds. Weibo users have used the service to criticize corrupt party officials, reveal hidden facts about disasters (like the 2011 high-speed rail crash in Wenzhou that killed 40 people), and discuss topics that are generally avoided in more traditional media.

The state calls such tweets “rumors,” and wants to squelch “rumor-mongering.”

Celebrities have Weibo followers in the millions, and have become the lightning rods for state censorship.

“The wording of his speech relayed in internal briefings is far stronger,” said a source. “The most impressive [point] is that Xi said the Communist Party should be combative, instead of being passive, and it should wage a war to win over public opinion. Xi also ordered the propaganda apparatus to form a strong internet army to seize the ground of new media,” he said.

The speech laid the ground for recent events that shook the new-media world.

On August 20, Beijing police detained several people connected with Beijing Erma Interactive Marketing and Planning, including internet celebrity Qin Huohuo , on suspicion of rumour-mongering.

On August 23, Chinese-American businessman Charles Xue Biqun , better known to his 12 million Sina Weibo followers as Xue Manzi , was detained on suspicion of soliciting prostitutes.

More: Xi Jinping Rallies Party for Propaganda War on Internet

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181 comments
1 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:39:53am

See? This is why I don’t get too exercised about other countries. They’re just as hobbled with stupid as we are.

2 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 6:48:53am

GG and Snowden should be flocking there…

3 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 6:50:12am
4 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 6:50:14am

THE NEW FREE WORLD!
/Drudge

5 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 6:56:22am

well I’m ecstatic that GG and Snowden have now given the Chinese more modern tools to allow them to suppress their own Libertarians using the data and ideas gleaned from those ebil NSA files…. well done GG and Snowy!

6 abolitionist  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:01:54am

Only approved dissent will be tolerated.

7 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:01:55am
8 ObserverArt  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:03:54am

So, it does look like Cranky Pants McCain is not going to back the Senate Resolution as written. I’m going to guess it has to do with the fact that it isn’t tough enough for him. Now if it was for a full-on war he’d be in.

9 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:05:10am

I’m shocked. Shocked China’s imposing its authoritarian doctrine on the Internet and censoring anything it considers to be subversive or otherwise undermining the government’s authority.

Youtube Video

10 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:07:53am

Ha!

11 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:08:11am

DERP

DERP DERP

12 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:09:19am

Fuckin’ analogies, how do they work?

13 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:09:26am

Sorry dear, but no.

14 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:11:45am

re: #9 lawhawk

I’m shocked. Shocked China’s imposing its authoritarian doctrine on the Internet and censoring anything it considers to be subversive or otherwise undermining the government’s authority.

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Weird, my company is blocking that video.

Access to this page has been denied by web filtering.

Access to: youtube.com
Block Reason: This Websense category is filtered: Gambling.

15 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:11:48am

I’m glad all of our patriotic job creators have brought the communist government of China enough capital to begin to branch out. Well done!!

16 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:12:01am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

should I, as an allegedly intelligent person, be forced to read such idiotic tweets from Matt Barber? Or do you not understand the concepts of business, commerce and discrimination, Matt?

17 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:13:04am

re: #14 NJDhockeyfan

your winnings sir……

18 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:14:22am

re: #10 darthstar

The picture with the tweet is the pinnacle of the “dudebro” facial expression.

19 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:15:21am
rumour-mongering

That’s a good crime but I think that the age old hooliganism of Snowden’s Russia is still my favorite.

20 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:16:24am
21 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:16:25am

re: #16 piratedan

should I, as an allegedly intelligent person, be forced to read such idiotic tweets from Matt Barber? Or do you not understand the concepts of business, commerce and discrimination?

Mr. Barber does not understand “public accommodation.” A Muslim caterer should provide halal to all customers who request it, whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim, since that is their business to do so. However they do not have to prepare non-halal since that is not a service they provide.

As for his other example with Westboro, that is one specific customer, maybe he should ask Westboro if they would hire a gay caterer?

22 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:19:29am

re: #21 Vicious Babushka

aye, he’s as subtle as a flying mallet

23 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:19:40am
24 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:22:03am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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lolwut

That last Tweet is particularly stupid. What a cretin.

25 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:24:07am

No men were harmed in the making of this video.

Youtube Video

(Response to Thicke’s ‘Blurred lines” rape song)

26 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:24:07am

re: #14 NJDhockeyfan

Weird, my company is blocking that video.

private companies are allowed to filter what their employees see on company computers. It is a different thing when an entire government starts to restrict access…

27 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:24:18am

re: #24 Dr Lizardo

lolwut

That last Tweet is particularly stupid. What a cretin.

Yeah, it’s like saying “Should a shoe store be required to sell you a new car?”

28 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:27:02am

re: #14 NJDhockeyfan

Weird, my company is blocking that video.

Lol, websense.

29 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:30:47am

re: #14 NJDhockeyfan

It’s the Chinese!!!!

30 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:30:48am

Borowitz is pretty funny today.

newyorker.com

31 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:31:03am

re: #27 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, it’s like saying “Should a shoe store be required to sell you a new car?”

LOL

And Shanah Tovah to you and yours.

32 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:31:45am
33 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:31:48am

re: #23 NJDhockeyfan

Exclusive: Former Syria defense minister breaks with Assad-Labwani reut.rs

Most plausible happy outcome is that some mid-grade officer with a yen to live puts a 9mm to Assad’s ear.

34 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:32:56am

High speed bullshit in NC.

35 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:33:04am

re: #32 darthstar

McCain hero worship among liberals

Is this a new phenomenon that I am not aware of?

36 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:34:47am

re: #35 b.d.

Is this a new phenomenon that I am not aware of?

He oozes maverick, which attracts them since it’s the same “rebellion” complex as Che shirts and the Stars and Bars.

Hmm, who is marketing the Che shirt with a Stars and Bars background? Two birds, one stone, n’at.

37 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:35:31am

re: #35 b.d.

Is this a new phenomenon that I am not aware of?

Depends on which McCain you’re on. The bomb Syria McCain or the Don’t Bomb Syria McCain. If you’re confused, don’t worry…it’s just your brain on McCain.

38 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:35:42am

And now for something completely different…

39 erik_t  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:35:56am

re: #35 b.d.

Is this a new phenomenon that I am not aware of?

Perhaps among the dudebro crowd? Grumpy old man bitching about shit without concern for sense or context seems right up their alley.

40 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:37:38am

re: #38 NJDhockeyfan

And now for something completely different…

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Oh goody. I can hardly wait for all the LNYHBT Tweets HURR HURR THIS PRUVZ TAHT TEH NAACP IS JUST AS RACIST AS TEH KKK!?!!!!!!11111

41 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:37:42am

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Most plausible happy outcome is that some mid-grade officer with a yen to live puts a 9mm to Assad’s ear.

I’m surprised that hasn’t happened yet. I would think that the chemical weapon attack would be the last straw among some of his security members.

42 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:38:42am

Mayor Bloomberg is suing the City Council over their override of the stop and frisk veto that would amend the procedure and allow aggrieved people sue the NYPD to effectuate change in policy. He’s arguing that the City Council doesn’t have the authority to make changes to the criminal procedure code.

He may actually win that one, but it’s a rather ironic argument considering that the mayor himself had little use for proper procedure when he attempted to implement the inane and half-assed soda ban. The court there found that he didn’t go through the City Council, applied the ban in a haphazard and random method that would harm certain businesses, and ignored entire classes of beverages with higher calorie counts because they were not carbonated.

43 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:39:12am
44 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:40:19am

Time to run the dogs and get to work.

45 erik_t  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:41:11am

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

I’m surprised that hasn’t happened yet. I would think that the chemical weapon attack would be the last straw among some of his security members.

Living a month hence is the easy part. It’s living through the ensuing 30 minutes that’s a mite bit tricky.

Not sure I’d have the courage to go through with it. It’s got to sound pretty attractive to wait until everything comes crashing down, then grow an awesome beard and slink away into the shadows.

46 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:41:19am

re: #32 darthstar

Ha! I don’t like McCain but Dawna is a freakin idiot;


47 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:46:10am

re: #41 NJDhockeyfan

The WMD usage signals to his supporters that he’s in it to win it. He’s not going to flee, leaving his supporters answering to the angry mob. Of course, it means that if Assad does lose, those supporters are wholly screwed. They will continue supporting him because the alternative is worse.

Assad surrounds himself with loyalists, and if there was any dissent he’s probably dispatched them (which is another way of instilling fear and yes-men who accede to Assad’s whims).

That is, up until someone realizes that this has gone too far and moves to punt Assad. It’s what happened in Egypt, where the violence on the streets finally convinced the military to send Mubarak packing. However, Egypt is a different case from Syria considering that the military wields a tremendous amount of power in Egypt and essentially has chosen all the leaders of the country since Nasser rose to power in the 1950s. The Egyptian military is more respected than other Egyptian institutions.

However, the military in Syria is subservient to the Assad clan. A coup is not as likely to come from the military or the inner circle.

48 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:50:36am

I don’t worship him but I respect him on his bipartisanship with Feingold.

49 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:52:10am

re: #47 lawhawk

The WMD usage signals to his supporters that he’s in it to win it. He’s not going to flee, leaving his supporters answering to the angry mob. Of course, it means that if Assad does lose, those supporters are wholly screwed. They will continue supporting him because the alternative is worse.

Assad surrounds himself with loyalists, and if there was any dissent he’s probably dispatched them (which is another way of instilling fear and yes-men who accede to Assad’s whims).

That is, up until someone realizes that this has gone too far and moves to punt Assad. It’s what happened in Egypt, where the violence on the streets finally convinced the military to send Mubarak packing. However, Egypt is a different case from Syria considering that the military wields a tremendous amount of power in Egypt and essentially has chosen all the leaders of the country since Nasser rose to power in the 1950s. The Egyptian military is more respected than other Egyptian institutions.

However, the military in Syria is subservient to the Assad clan. A coup is not as likely to come from the military or the inner circle.

Not to mention that a “figurehead dump” is probably not going to be accepted by the opposition. Too much water under the bridge at this point.

And Assad blew his opportunity to lighten up and start a transition after he took over from his father. Riding the tiger at this point, much as you say. And essentially the reason that North Korea won’t loosen up - too much pent up pressure at this point and an attempt to relieve it is viewed internally as “weakness” or likely to lead to a total blow-out.

50 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:52:16am

re: #46 b.d.

she is right that he’s been a crappy legislator when it comes to the rights of servicemen and women, he’s consistently voted against the rights of military families and better pay for enlisted men.

He’s a policy hawk, he’s never been much of an advocate for the ordinary military man/woman and their families.

51 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:54:06am
Dumb ass doesn’t know war, he was captured.

This is why I’m rooting for the meteor.

52 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:54:22am

re: #50 piratedan

Saying he doesn’t know war ‘cuz he was captured is still pants-on-head stupid though.

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:54:52am

re: #48 Amory Blaine

I don’t worship him but I respect him on his bipartisanship with Feingold.

He is sane and moderate when compared to what the party has turned into.

In fact it was his moderatness on social issues that got him saddled with Palin in order to assuage the far right, which was threatening to abandon ship and run their own candidate…

54 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:56:15am

re: #8 ObserverArt

McCain wants a full scale invasion followed by a nuclear attack.

half /

55 erik_t  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:56:24am

re: #53 Sol Berdinowitz

He is sane and moderate when compared to what the party has turned into.

Well, until push comes to Meet the Press shove… then he votes en bloc with the rest of the nutters seemingly 98% of the time.

56 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 7:57:03am

Whoa! Thanks for the promotion! I was off doing real world stuff, came back and found myself on the front page.

57 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:07:34am

re: #56 wheat-dogghazi

Consider yourself a sacrificial figurehead. If this thread goes sour you’ll be turned over to the unruly mob.

58 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:08:18am

Hmmm… plans within plans. Or a convenient revelation that is supposed to help get Russia on board since they’ve been fighting jihadis since their failed wars in Chechnya and dealing with them the southern regions. Or harden Russian support for Assad?

59 ObserverArt  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:09:25am

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Consider yourself a sacrificial figurehead. If this thread goes sour you’ll be turned over to the unruly mob.

Should we get pitchforks and torches?

60 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:09:42am

re: #57 Decatur Deb

Consider yourself a sacrificial figurehead. If this thread goes sour you’ll be turned over to the unruly mob.

As long as francis doesn’t show up to the party, I’ll be OK.

61 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:11:06am

re: #58 lawhawk

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Hmmm… plans within plans. Or a convenient revelation that is supposed to help get Russia on board since they’ve been fighting jihadis since their failed wars in Chechnya and dealing with them the southern regions.

re: #58 lawhawk

It’s an equal opportunity bollygon. The Crips and MS13 are in there somewhere.

62 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:11:26am

re: #58 lawhawk

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Hmmm… plans within plans. Or a convenient revelation that is supposed to help get Russia on board since they’ve been fighting jihadis since their failed wars in Chechnya and dealing with them the southern regions.

Why would Russia give two flying pigs if jihadis go into Syria to fight? Yes, Russia has had a long conflict with them but this way some (many?) will be killed without Russia having to lift a finger

63 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:11:31am

re: #59 ObserverArt

Should we get pitchforks and torches?

Tar and feathers?

64 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:12:14am

re: #63 Bubblehead II

Tar and feathers?

Blancmange and treacle.

65 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:12:49am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Blancmange and treacle.

Chicken and Dumplings??

((oh,, wait ,, thats what we’re having for dinner,,, nevahmind!!))

66 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:14:56am
67 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:16:28am

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

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WTF Chris Hayes!?

68 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:16:53am

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

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Could be worse

thetimes.co.uk

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69 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:16:59am

re: #65 sattv4u2

Pancakes and syrup, in about 7 hours, if it’s not too much trouble. Good night from China.

70 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:17:44am

re: #69 wheat-dogghazi

Pancakes and syrup, in about 7 hours, if it’s not too much trouble. Good night from China.

No problem

Plenty of melted butter, juice and coffee

Sleep well

71 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:18:14am

bbiab

72 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:19:58am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Blancmange and treacle.

I actually had to Google those to figure out what you were talking about.

Chocoholic: Chocolate Blancmange

British Food Recipes - Treacle Pudding Recipe

And, since I learned something new today, my time here at LGF hasn’t been wasted.

73 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:22:23am

re: #72 Bubblehead II

It’s something from Monty Python, IIRC. Had to Google it myself to assure spellings, etc. Shocker to find that Heinz makes treacle—for England I guess.

74 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:23:09am
75 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:26:30am

re: #74 lawhawk

Oh the irony of ABC, employer of Jenny McCarthy, reporting that….

76 Stoatly  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:33:55am

re: #72 Bubblehead II

And, since I learned something new today, my time here at LGF hasn’t been wasted.

Not as much as you think - treacle pudding doesn’t actually contain treacle!
(it uses golden syrup)

Next you’ll be claiming it comes from the treacle mines
/

77 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:39:37am
78 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:44:06am

re: #66 NJDhockeyfan

Every time POTUS talks about military strike against Syria he looks like he’s in a hostage video.

— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 4, 2013

What the fuck does this even mean?

79 darthstar  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:45:47am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

What the fuck does this even mean?

Chris Hayes is petty.

80 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:46:33am

re: #78 Dr. Matt

What the fuck does this even mean?

Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.

81 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:46:51am

Now for something not made in China:

An Alabama company is selling t-shirts made of local cotton. The real gimmick is the dye—it’s entirely colored with the iron-rich dirt that turns our workclothes a distinctive ochre color. Not very hippy downside is that they’re pricey—$25. Our guest gave them as bread-and-butter gifts.

ep.yimg.com

(Truth in Blogging disclosure—manufactured in Nicaragua.)

82 piratedan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:48:04am

re: #52 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

true that….Johnny Maverick does like his live fire exercises…. his troops though, they mostly get lip service

83 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:48:27am

re: #77 darthstar

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Hayes is really the last person on the planet who should be criticizing someone on how they come across on a television screen.

84 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:50:31am

Lawhawk, I asked you a stupid question. Thoughts?

85 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:52:51am

re: #84 ProTARDISLiberal

Thoughts?

The sky is blue. Grass is green. I’m heading out of work early for Rosh Hashana.

Oh, you had a question? Where? I didn’t see it.

86 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:53:53am

WTF?

87 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:53:53am

From the “you can’t make this stuff up” file:

(note: this comes from a militant pro-life site. I’m not going to link, but if you want to read the whole thing you can google the article title)

I thought I was pro-life but God told me I had the ‘spirit of abortion’

One day, while praying for an end to abortion on the anniversary of Roe v. Wade which legalized the killing of babies in the womb in 1973, Sarah suddenly experienced the voice of God saying to her:

You have the spirit of abortion.

The young woman remembers being stunned. ‘How could this accusation be true,’ she remembers reasoning vehemently with God, when she was clearly against the horrible crime of ending an innocent life in a mother’s womb?

Again, Sarah experienced the convicting voice of God:

You have the spirit of abortion in you because you do not value children as you ought. You see them as a burden and something that would inconvenience your life.

As Sarah pondered the word she had received, it dawned on her that God was entirely right. She had believed that it was wrong to kill children through abortion, but she now realized that a deeply rooted contraceptive mentality within her had prejudiced her to not really value children or to even desire them.

“Up to that point, I had had no exposure to the perspective of contraception as a moral evil,” Sarah said. “Growing up, I was extremely familiar with the fact that as couples were counseled for marriage in church, it was the assumption across the board that to be a ‘prudent newly wed couple’, you must contracept, and preferably for at least two years in order to establish a ‘stable marriage’.”

“Rarely were children talked about in terms of ‘abundance and overflowing joy’. In some circles it was strongly suggested that couples limit their family size for the good of God. Many couples saw two children as plenty.”

“I was not really open to having children, nor had I been encouraged to be so from my church leadership. From this flowed the natural conclusion that contraception was fine. And if contraception was fine, then I could see how the logic worked that allowed abortion (God forbid) to be fine because it got rid of an ‘inconvenience’”.

“I was horrified as I suddenly and instantly knew the horrible truth: being closed to life through contraception actually leads to the reality and horror of abortion.”

It was with sadness that Sarah realized that she had become a victim of the logic of contraception without even realizing it. “And sadly, this was where I had been up till that day,” she recounted.

As a consequence of her humbling experience with God, Sarah turned to the Catholic Church for answers and eventually became Catholic along with her now-husband Brandon. They now have two children and are hoping for more.

To this day, over a decade later, it fills Sarah with sadness that many of her friends cannot see what she calls the “real beauty of sexual union and the beauty of being totally open to the gift of life”. None

88 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:55:10am

re: #85 lawhawk

On Twitter, to the whole thing of stimulating Upstate New York.

89 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:56:16am

re: #88 ProTARDISLiberal

On Twitter, to the whole thing of stimulating Upstate New York.

Perhaps send them some porn!

90 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:56:44am

re: #88 ProTARDISLiberal

re: #89 sattv4u2

Perhaps send them some porn!

Or at the least, some Starbucks coffee

91 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 8:58:51am

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

Let’s hope god doesn’t tell her how to make ANFO explosive.

92 Weet  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:03:14am

The NSA is so horrible, I must tell everyone.

The only places that will help me are China and Russia. They have horrible human rights records, and there’s no internet freedom in China.

But the NSA is so horrible! I must tell everyone!

No other country will help me, but China and Russia have enough political and military might, that they are willing to do so. Besides, it hurts the US!

Who in the fuck would fall for this crap? Who is this naive and stupid??

I have to think it’s simply people who want to hurt the US. There is nothing else a reasoning mind could conclude. Sadists maybe? People with a victim syndrome?

93 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:07:18am

re: #88 ProTARDISLiberal

Not seeing it (what’s your twitter handle?)

94 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:08:28am

That doesn’t mean American mfgrs won’t continue to make and sell their products in China.

Apple invites media to Beijing September 11 event: reports

reuters.com

“Apple Inc has invited Chinese journalists to an event in Beijing on September 11, just hours after it is widely expected to unveil its newest iPhone models in the United States, Chinese media reported on Wednesday.”

No doubt the govt will send as many as possible.

95 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:09:39am

I made the most important parts of our Rosh Hashanah meals: the desserts.

Zedushka has made the gefilte fish and the chicken soup, he was complaining about how dirty the soup always is and he has to skim it with a special strainer, but the soup always comes out clear and golden!

Still need to make:

Tip Roast with Cajun rub
Honey lemon baked chicken
Roasted sweet potatoes with rosemary & olive oil
Beet salad
Pasta salad

96 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:10:19am

re: #93 lawhawk

Hr_Delta

97 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:11:41am

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Hr_Delta

Speaking of seeing things - I remarked earlier that I saw a NY license plate over the weekend that said “SILURIAN”.

Figured that you might be amused by such.

98 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:13:16am

re: #96 ProTARDISLiberal

Didn’t see it because it was protected and I’m not following you.

99 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:14:34am

A young person next to me is filling out a Target application on line. It’s like a fucking FBI profile questionnaire. For a god damned warehouse job!!! WTF.

100 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:15:07am

re: #97 Feline Fearless Leader

Yep. I think I might give a visit to the DMV once I have a job (really hoping to hear good things back from the interview I had last Tuesday.)

Thinking of Whovian things that may not be taken yet.

R(un)Y(ou)C(lever)B(oy)A(nd)R(emember)M(e)

And that is it right now.

101 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:15:22am

L’Shanah Tovah Tikatevu, everyone!

102 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:15:38am

re: #98 lawhawk

Well, follow me!

I block it to deal with the stalkers.

103 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:16:06am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

L’shana Tova to you and yours! Sounds like a fab meal.

104 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:16:14am


Found that after seeing this:


She’s probably wrong, though.

105 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:17:46am

I wish I had some Jewish friends. I’d totally be crashing their holiday meals.

106 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:18:07am

Another Snowden leak.

U.S. documents detail al-Qaeda’s efforts to fight back against drones

Al-Qaeda’s leadership has assigned cells of engineers to find ways to shoot down, jam or remotely hijack U.S. drones, hoping to exploit the technological vulnerabilities of a weapons system that has inflicted huge losses upon the terrorist network, according to top-secret U.S. intelligence documents.

107 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:20:34am

Peering through the screen door,

“Hey Mrs. Babushka. What ya doin’?”

108 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:21:19am

re: #106 Bubblehead II

Another Snowden leak.

U.S. documents detail al-Qaeda’s efforts to fight back against drones

Al-Qaeda’s leadership has assigned cells of engineers to find ways to shoot down, jam or remotely hijack U.S. drones, hoping to exploit the technological vulnerabilities of a weapons system that has inflicted huge losses upon the terrorist network, according to top-secret U.S. intelligence documents.

aiding and abetting Al Q.

109 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:21:40am

re: #106 Bubblehead II

Obviously, this will will help Internet privacy. Somehow.

110 blueraven  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:23:20am

re: #104 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]


She’s probably wrong, though.

Much better than dinner jacket…in tone anyway.

111 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:23:22am

More Greenwald lies falling apart.

112 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:24:55am

re: #107 Amory Blaine

Peering through the screen door,

“Hey Mrs. Babushka. What ya doin’?”

Want some pie?

113 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:25:13am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

More Greenwald lies falling apart.

Who are you going to call a liar, a stellar world-class journalist or a beloved leader of a major world power?

What if they were both lying and S was in touch with North Korea?

114 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:26:34am

re: #110 blueraven

Much better than dinner jacket…in tone anyway.

Yeah, still gonna be a few trust issues….

115 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:27:15am

re: #109 Internet Tough Guy

Obviously, this will will help Internet privacy. Somehow.

Well you just know that the NSA is flying those drones around and slurping up everyones WiFi.

//

116 SchadenBoner  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:28:04am

re: #111 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

More Greenwald lies falling apart.

Shocked, yes shocked, am I to …ah, the hell with it…

117 Lidane  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:28:30am

Ugh. Today is one of those weird days.

Lost a proposal at work a few days ago when the client was a classless douche and sent me a snail mail letter telling me of the rejection rather than a simple email. Today I’m answering to the COO about why we lost that proposal and about the survey results from the poll we send to clients when a project is lost. I can console myself knowing that they thought the pricing sucked, but they thought I was friendly and responsive to them. Still, I am irked by this.

Another client is begging for a rush translation into Turkish by tomorrow. This after the project manager I had working on his account left for a different job. Oy.

To top it off, I got news earlier that my grandmother died this morning. After my parents had their car accident she helped to raise me, so it’s sad to see her go. Still, she made it to 97 years old, and she was otherwise in decent health apart from her age. She had a long life. I’ll miss her, but it was nice while it lasted.

118 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:29:25am

re: #106 Bubblehead II

But remember, Greenwald, Poitras, and the Guardian were all about Snowden being a whistle blower on how the NSA was spying on Americans and violating Americans’ civil liberties. Turns out that his cache of documents was a whole lot more about revealing national security secrets, methods, and tactics for keeping the nation safe from terrorists, revealing tactics used in missions to get OBL, etc., than actual violations of civil rights of Americans. And the violations that were made public indicated that the NSA and FISC were already working to rectify their issues without prying eyes. After all, that’s how we know that there were issues - the Snowden cache included reports by the FISC and IG.

Greenwald and Poitras and the dudebros are pissed that the US spies - period. They’re upset at any kind of intel gathering, and now we’ve got the WaPo publishing all these details that were part of the Snowden cache.

They’re interesting and do shed more light on what the intel community does, but is it really helpful to anyone other than the terrorists?

119 Mattand  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:29:41am

re: #117 Lidane

Ugh. Today is one of those weird days.

Lost a proposal at work a few days ago when the client was a classless douche and sent me a snail mail letter telling me of the rejection rather than a simple email. Today I’m answering to the COO about why we lost that proposal and about the survey results from the poll we send to clients when a project is lost. I can console myself knowing that they thought the pricing sucked, but they thought I was friendly and responsive to them. Still, I am irked by this.

Another client is begging for a rush translation into Turkish by tomorrow. This after the project manager I had working on his account left for a different job. Oy.

To top it off, I got news earlier that my grandmother died this morning. After my parents had their car accident she helped to raise me, so it’s sad to see her go. Still, she made it to 97 years old, and she was otherwise in decent health apart from her age. She had a long life. I’ll miss her, but it was nice while it lasted.

Hang in there. Condolences on your grandmom.

120 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:31:04am

Here is a brief description of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur:

Rosh Hashanah:
G-D is awesome, let’s eat!

Yom Kippur:
We did some bad stuff the past year, we feel bad about it, let’s not eat.
We’re forgiven. Yay! Let’s eat!

121 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:31:25am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

I made the most important parts of our Rosh Hashanah meals: the desserts.

Zedushka has made the gefilte fish and the chicken soup, he was complaining about how dirty the soup always is and he has to skim it with a special strainer, but the soup always comes out clear and golden!

Still need to make:

Tip Roast with Cajun rub
Honey lemon baked chicken
Roasted sweet potatoes with rosemary & olive oil
Beet salad
Pasta salad

L’shanah tovah to you, yours, and the rest of Teh Juice here at LGF! ;)

122 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:31:46am

re: #117 Lidane

{{Lidane}}

123 brennant  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:32:19am

Are the Code Pink people making hamburger behind John Kerry? Do they need to wash their hands?

124 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:34:19am

re: #117 Lidane

Ugh. Today is one of those weird days.

Lost a proposal at work a few days ago when the client was a classless douche and sent me a snail mail letter telling me of the rejection rather than a simple email. Today I’m answering to the COO about why we lost that proposal and about the survey results from the poll we send to clients when a project is lost. I can console myself knowing that they thought the pricing sucked, but they thought I was friendly and responsive to them. Still, I am irked by this.

Another client is begging for a rush translation into Turkish by tomorrow. This after the project manager I had working on his account left for a different job. Oy.

To top it off, I got news earlier that my grandmother died this morning. After my parents had their car accident she helped to raise me, so it’s sad to see her go. Still, she made it to 97 years old, and she was otherwise in decent health apart from her age. She had a long life. I’ll miss her, but it was nice while it lasted.

{{Hugs}} And condolences on the loss of your grandmother.

125 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:34:57am

re: #118 lawhawk

“They’re interesting and do shed more light on what the intel community does, but is it really helpful to anyone other than the terrorists?”

Nope. But if it hurts U.S. interests, GG and Co. are more than happy to assist.

126 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:35:14am

re: #117 Lidane

{{{Lidane}}}

127 b.d.  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:38:14am

Man, Greenwald is going to sooo block Putin on Twitter now.

//

128 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:39:10am

Oh those Juice, they’re just so clannish and stick to their own kind so much.

129 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:40:01am

re: #117 Lidane

Sorry to hear about your Grandmother

130 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:40:41am

David Sirota IS SO NOT INVITED to my Rosh Hashanah feasts!

But if he showed up anyway I would feed him and even let him sit at the same table where we all eat, because I’m not mean or anything. But I would cover up the wine.

131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:41:30am
132 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:41:45am

re: #87 Eclectic Cyborg

It was with sadness that Sarah realized that she had become a victim of the logic of contraception without even realizing it.

Well, that’s what the logic of contraception, and logic in general, does to people. It makes victims wherever it goes. And it’s everywhere seeking whomever it may devour. //

133 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:41:56am

Hmm maybe I would feed him but make him sit outside on the porch. And definitely hide the wine.

134 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:43:29am

re: #131 Vicious Babushka

Croc-wearing authoritarian lickpittles, too.

135 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:43:33am

re: #132 Bulworth

It was with sadness that Sarah realized that she had become a victim of logic

136 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:43:34am

Wow he’s butthurt

137 Mattand  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:43:46am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

Oh those Juice, they’re just so clannish and stick to their own kind so much.

[Embedded content]

Wow. What better time to uncork some down home anti-Jewish bigotry than on Rosh Hashanah?

What a piece of shit…

138 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:44:15am

re: #117 Lidane

{{{Lidane}}}

139 klys  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:48:10am

re: #117 Lidane

{{hugs}}

Even when the life was long and healthy, it hurts to lose someone. I hope you can find comfort in the memories sooner rather than later.

140 chadu  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:48:48am

re: #117 Lidane

{{hugs}}

141 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:49:53am

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

Wow he’s butthurt

Already know my priorities are FUBAR. Dudesbros gotta do better.

142 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:50:18am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

If only those Jews would just…go away….

You would think that DS wouldn’t have to worry about lefty street cred, but I guess he still does.

143 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:50:26am

Did not get job.

Jefferson County apparently was looking for a database person not a GIS person. Their job posting did not sound like it at the time. It said dippity-squat on databases.

This is the 3-4th time this has happened. And me find any sort of Entry-Level in my field is near impossible (This’ll be fun in 20 years when many have retired, and those like me have been locked out of the field.) And my Grades were hurt by the Depression that developed in my senior year, so I feel screwed that way.

I thinking Teaching is the only way out. Got to get a licence though.

144 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 9:55:37am
145 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:00:33am

re: #136 Vicious Babushka

Wow he’s butthurt

[Embedded content]

Of course he is but it’s perfectly okay for him and others like him to call anyone a warmongrel.

146 SchadenBoner  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:04:15am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal
I thinking Teaching is the only way out. Got to get a licence though.

There are non-traditional education licensure programs (and no, I’m not *just* talking about TFA, although that is one, and as an aside I think TFA sometimes gets unfairly tarred with the broad brush of Rheeism but that’s neither here-nor-there), earn while you learn type of stuff, (like Mr. Prezbo in Season 4) particularly if your degree is in something technical.

Bro-hug, bro.

[[ProTARDISLiberal]]

(You can tell how masculine it is by the straight brackets rather than those weirdo curly ones…)

147 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:04:17am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

Did not get job.

Jefferson County apparently was looking for a database person not a GIS person. Their job posting did not sound like it at the time. It said dippity-squat on databases.

This is the 3-4th time this has happened. And me find any sort of Entry-Level in my field is near impossible (This’ll be fun in 20 years when many have retired, and those like me have been locked out of the field.) And my Grades were hurt by the Depression that developed in my senior year, so I feel screwed that way.

I thinking Teaching is the only way out. Got to get a licence though.

What’s your degree in? I feel you though. Totally struggling here to find work. May have an interview for an internship/entry level position with DOI but man I need the dough.

148 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:04:33am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

Did not get job.

Jefferson County apparently was looking for a database person not a GIS person. Their job posting did not sound like it at the time. It said dippity-squat on databases.

This is the 3-4th time this has happened. And me find any sort of Entry-Level in my field is near impossible (This’ll be fun in 20 years when many have retired, and those like me have been locked out of the field.) And my Grades were hurt by the Depression that developed in my senior year, so I feel screwed that way.

I thinking Teaching is the only way out. Got to get a licence though.

Do you know SQL and C#?

149 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:05:45am

re: #146 SchadenBoner

The straight-brackets make all the difference.

150 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:06:11am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

Sorry to hear. Hope something opens up soon.

151 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:08:06am

Meanwhile, The Nation attacks CAP.

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 57m

The Secret Donors Behind Center for American Progress & how it affects its agenda - by Ken Silverstein in @TheNation thenation.com

I suppose you can’t be too pure…

152 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:09:11am

re: #151 Justanotherhuman

Meanwhile, The Nation attacks CAP.

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 57m

The Secret Donors Behind Center for American Progress & how it affects its agenda - by Ken Silverstein in @TheNation thenation.com

I suppose you can’t be too pure…

There’s too much purer than thou in politics. People rightfully bitch about the selling out and all that but the purer than thou is just as problematic.

153 SchadenBoner  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:09:17am

re: #146 SchadenBoner
There are non-traditional education licensure programs (and no, I’m not *just* talking about TFA, although that is one, and as an aside I think TFA sometimes gets unfairly tarred with the broad brush of Rheeism but that’s neither here-nor-there)

Damnit, should have made a “Reification” joke here. I keep forgetting to do that.

Also, self-quote: ahoy!

154 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:10:14am

re: #128 Vicious Babushka

He brought up something about Hillel, that I know for a fact to be true:

In 2010, Hillel, the organization that oversees Jewish life on
America’s college campuses, issued guidelines urging local chapters not to host speakers
who “deny the right of Israel to exist as a Jewish and democratic state with secure and
recognized borders,” “delegitimize, demonize, or apply a double standard to Israel,” or
“support boycott of, divestment from, or sanctions against the State of Israel.”

In early 2010, MSA and Hillel cooperated on an anti-bigotry event. Next semester? Nothing. Not only that, but I later found out they had called campus police on an MSA meeting I didn’t attend. There has been no cooperation with Hillel since the 2009-2010 School Year. I consider this to be a problem.

155 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:10:17am

re: #151 Justanotherhuman

Secret donors so secret The Nation is going to tell us about them?

156 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:11:33am

re: #155 Bulworth

Secret donors so secret The Nation is going to tell us about them?

Obviously, they were only secret to Ken.

157 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:13:04am

re: #148 Vicious Babushka

No. There are alot of books on C though at home (MBC is a Software Engineer).

They had other classes I didn’t take, but none on software languages. (They were Remote sensing and the like.)

158 SchadenBoner  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:14:55am

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

Obviously, they were only secret to Ken.

I hold in my hand a list of 205 CAP funders…

159 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:15:36am

I just wish people who constantly bitch would have actual solutions. Not saying everyone opposed to action in Syria thinks like this but the single track mind that I’m seeing on the issue on the internet is troubling to me and I’m equally critical of the McCain-Graham like mindset that never says no to any conflict. And then you’ve got the conspiracy theorists who try to deny the gassing ocurred or if you’re like Alex J—— err Rush Limbaugh, you see claims that the anti-Assad people did it themselves which as I saw put it here even if true would make this an even more troubling situation since it would be chemical weapons in an unstable group’s hands.

160 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:15:47am

re: #144 lawhawk

I know that.

I live in Colorado Springs, close to John Morse’s district, but not in it. However, we receive no fewer than 3 calls per day about how John Morse is evil. It is beyond obnoxious.

I think Anglea Giron will survive, but John Morse won’t. He won by only a few hundred votes in 2010.

161 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:16:02am
162 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:16:31am

re: #161 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

Just like Bush.// Unilateral.

163 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:17:12am

Was gonna rant about how Rosh Hashanah is keeping a Jewish colleague out of the office today when her duty is to be here to sign up for fantasy football before it’s too late, but it appears she has joined our league while feast-celebrating. So all’s well, FF and life will continue.

164 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:18:25am

re: #163 Bulworth

Was gonna rant about how Rosh Hashanah is keeping a Jewish colleague out of the office today when her duty is to be here to sign up for fantasy football before it’s too late, but it appears she has joined our league while feast-celebrating. So all’s well, FF and life will continue.

Life is good. Can’t wait for my league to start and I’ve started watching The League too. I lucked out and got Calvin Johnson in the first round because the dude picking immediately before me picked RGIII.

165 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:20:58am

re: #131 Vicious Babushka


Phew! Good thing Sirota’s not a hardcore hyperpartisan. ///

166 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:21:26am

re: #159 HappyWarrior

Some Teabagger on FB was saying Obama is weak and should just shoot.

I made the following response.

Syria is a horrific mess. It’s got no fewer than 4 sides duking it out, creating a mess worse than Bosnia or Iraq. Let’s think about what we do before we leap. I would prefer not helping the Saudi-supported nutcases. After all, they have a history of mass murder too. Aside from 9/11, you have the massacre at Karbala in the early 1810s that slaughtered no fewer than 4,000 men, women, and children. And I don’t know the additional numbers of dead they inflicted on civilians during the Ottoman-Saudi War. Not to mention the dead from the Taliban, the Algerian Civil War, the Malian Civil War, Al-Qaeda in its various permutations, among others.

167 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:21:47am

re: #165 CuriousLurker

No, he is just a deluded dudebro.

168 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:22:45am

re: #165 CuriousLurker

He’s a hardcore partisan of the party Dudebro.

169 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:23:56am

re: #151 Justanotherhuman

Meanwhile, The Nation attacks CAP.

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 57m

The Secret Donors Behind Center for American Progress & how it affects its agenda - by Ken Silverstein in @TheNation thenation.com

I suppose you can’t be too pure…

Interesting article….

Last year, when First Solar was taking a beating from congressional Republicans and in the press over job layoffs and alleged political cronyism, CAP’s Richard Caperton praised Antelope Valley in his testimony to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce, saying it headed up his list of “innovative projects” receiving loan guarantees. Earlier, Caperton and Steve Spinner—
a top Obama fundraiser who left his job at the Energy Department monitoring the issuance of loan guarantees and became a CAP senior fellow—had written an article cross-posted on CAP’s website and its Think Progress blog, stating that Antelope Valley represented “the cutting edge of the clean energy economy.”

Though the think tank didn’t disclose it, First Solar belonged to CAP’s Business Alliance, a secret group of corporate donors, according to internal lists obtained by The Nation. Meanwhile, José Villarreal—a consultant at the power-
house law and lobbying firm Akin Gump, who “provides strategic counseling on a range of legal and policy issues” for 
corporations—was on First Solar’s board until April 2012 while also sitting on the board of CAP, where he remains a member, according to the group’s latest tax filing.

170 lgffan  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:27:45am

re: #95 Vicious Babushka

Shana Tova VB

171 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:31:35am

re: #165 CuriousLurker

[Embedded content]


Phew! Good thing Sirota’s not a hardcore hyperpartisan. ///

I’d like to know what his solution is to the Syrian situation.

172 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:32:19am

The Vatican confirms firing in Dominican Republic pedophilia scandal

politicalgates.blogspot.com

Say, isn’t that where Limpballs vacationed with 3 other guys, coming back with a bottle of Viagra not in his name?

173 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:36:40am

What is the maximum size of a boat you could get to Detroit via the St. Lawrence River?

174 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:39:49am

re: #172 Justanotherhuman

The Vatican confirms firing in Dominican Republic pedophilia scandal

politicalgates.blogspot.com

Say, isn’t that where Limpballs vacationed with 3 other guys, coming back with a bottle of Viagra not in his name?

Hey old right wing perverts need loving too.

175 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:49:15am

re: #173 ProTARDISLiberal

What is the maximum size of a boat you could get to Detroit via the St. Lawrence River?

Vessel maximum: 225.5 m (740 ft.) length
23.77 m (78 ft.) beam; 8.08 m (26 ft., 6 in.) draft
35.5 m (116.5 ft.) height above water.

St. Lawrence Seaway System

176 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 10:57:13am

re: #173 ProTARDISLiberal

What is the maximum size of a boat you could get to Detroit via the St. Lawrence River?

Pretty big. I think the current limit is the size of the lock(s) in the canal bypassing Niagara Falls (Welland Canal).

177 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 11:06:18am

re: #99 Amory Blaine

There’s also the drug test and some places(not sure if Target is one) will also make you undergo one of those “psychological profiles” where they ask you a dozen different questions in 10 different ways to determine if you’ll steal or report someone who does, and if you’re an obedient little worker bee or someone who has a thought in their head besides work.

It might be nice if they spent all the money on those things on their employees’ hourly wages. Just for laughs.

178 makeitstop  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 11:06:40am

re: #117 Lidane

Ugh. Today is one of those weird days.

Lost a proposal at work a few days ago when the client was a classless douche and sent me a snail mail letter telling me of the rejection rather than a simple email. Today I’m answering to the COO about why we lost that proposal and about the survey results from the poll we send to clients when a project is lost. I can console myself knowing that they thought the pricing sucked, but they thought I was friendly and responsive to them. Still, I am irked by this.

Another client is begging for a rush translation into Turkish by tomorrow. This after the project manager I had working on his account left for a different job. Oy.

To top it off, I got news earlier that my grandmother died this morning. After my parents had their car accident she helped to raise me, so it’s sad to see her go. Still, she made it to 97 years old, and she was otherwise in decent health apart from her age. She had a long life. I’ll miss her, but it was nice while it lasted.

Sympathies, Lidane.

179 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 11:14:16am

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

What about substitute teaching? Depends on the rules in your state, but you might qualify to teach high school level subjects on a sub basis. I have a friend here in GA that is not qualified to be a full time teacher, but she has enough college that she subs for elementary and middle school for everything from 8th grade math and history to kindergarten classes. She has to turn down jobs sometimes since she’s open to going to any school in the county.

The job market is tough all round. I’m sorry you’re having trouble. Could you go back to school and refine your degree somehow, to widen your qualifications?

180 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 11:16:24am

(((hugs))) Lidane, I’m sorry for your loss. And the work BS.

181 wheat-dogghazi  Wed, Sep 4, 2013 4:16:20pm

re: #143 ProTARDISLiberal

Here’s a tip. Many private schools do not require a teaching license or certificate. They do require a college degree, some expertise in your chosen field and people skills. While they don’t usually pay as well as public schools, private schools offer less paperwork, less standardized testing and smaller class sizes. I don’t know where you live, but you can probably Google up the private schools in your area. (Sometimes they are also called independent schools. And I am not referring to church schools, which are a different kind of animal.)


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