C-SPAN has live video of John Kerry and Chuck Hagel answering questions about Syria from the wonderful people in the House of Representatives. (The ones who bothered to show up, that is.)
Here’s a thread to discuss…
Just in:
BREAKING: Senate panel approves resolution giving Obama authority to use military force against Syria
— The Associated Press (@AP) September 4, 2013
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:04:20pm |
Those that didn’t show up will be sure to read the files later. You can be assured of that. /Joe Izuzu
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:04:34pm |
The only thing I expect to learn from the House session is what a bunch of fucking idiots House Republicans are.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:05:56pm |
BENGHAZI IRS NSA DEBT LIMIT 32 WARSHIPS! ARUGALA MUSLIMS KENYAN
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:08:55pm |
I watched for about 30 minutes and had to turn off the TV.
The level of derp reached critical mass…
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Targetpractice Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:09:00pm |
re: #2 Kragar
The only thing I expect to learn from the House session is what a bunch of fucking idiots House Republicans are.
They’re gonna vote against authorization, so why not just haul their sorry asses in early and put it all to an end now. Stop wasting people’s time with this illusion of a functioning government.
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Sionainn Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:10:28pm |
The dudes behind Mr. Holding aren’t paying any attention at all.
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Bulworth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:11:10pm |
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:11:44pm |
And a big part of the problem
Barton: Being A Good Scientist Or Mathematician Requires A Proper ‘Fear Of The Lord’
“When we had a God-fearing approach to education,” Barton asserted, “our educational knowledge was so much higher than what it is now. Just something as simple as having prayer in school and having a daily Bible reading. Did you know, back when we did that in schools, America was number one in the world in literacy? We had the highest literacy rate in the world. The last forty years we said ‘ah, we don’t want any religion in schools.’ We’re now 68th in the world in literacy. Our knowledge of even how to read has fallen through the floor; correlates exactly to the time we said ‘oh, fear of the Lord can’t be part of our knowledge”.
Ours is a kind and loving God, who will fuck you up if you ever fucking cross him, so watch yourself bitches. God bless.
/
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:12:51pm |
re: #9 Kragar
And a big part of the problem
Barton: Being A Good Scientist Or Mathematician Requires A Proper ‘Fear Of The Lord’Ours is a kind and loving God, who will fuck you up if you ever fucking cross him, so watch yourself bitches. God bless.
/
Bring it, God.
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Dr. Matt Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:13:12pm |
re: #3 Pavlovian Hive Mind
BENGHAZI IRS NSA DEBT LIMIT 32 WARSHIPS! ARUGALA MUSLIMS KENYAN
And Grey Bourbon.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:13:28pm |
re: #9 Kragar
And a big part of the problem
Barton: Being A Good Scientist Or Mathematician Requires A Proper ‘Fear Of The Lord’
Barton gets it exactly backwards. What a surprise.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:14:51pm |
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:15:18pm |
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:11pm |
George Holding, former Jesse Helms legislative counsel. Total asshat. Former Federal judge—“Hanging Holding”. Newbie in the House, but with lots of lawyering baggage as a conservative.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:16pm |
We couldn’t possibly be having problems with our education system because Conservatives have been systematically dismantling it for the last 60 years with their bullshit. That couldn’t possibly be it.
///
Barton is so fucking full of shit.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:16pm |
Now, the micromanaging amendments begin.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:33pm |
Are any of these jabbering lunatics derping about this yet? I can’t watch the feed at work:
White House: Legally married same-sex couples entitled to veteran's benefits http://t.co/x6Rw9QpGid— NBC News (@NBCNews) September 4, 2013
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dog philosopher Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:52pm |
God-fearing
in practice, since god isn’t around to enforce it, this means ‘shut up and do what i tell you’
you could simply follow the instructions in the bible, but then you’d end up like some hippie jewish dude or practicing polygamy and animal sacrifice
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FurryNavyDude Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:16:57pm |
The most quoted and interviewed nobody in the world:
With no special skill or expertise, Greg Packer has been quoted by media outlets nearly a thousand times. Since his name first appeared on newsprint, in 1995, he’s spoken to reporters on subjects ranging from the war in Iraq to the release of the first iPhone. Greg’s campaign to be the most quoted man in news has been so successful that the Associated Press sent its staff a memo that essentially banned interviews with him. That hasn’t stopped Greg’s “career.” Individually, his quotes are utterly unremarkable, but, considered as a whole, they add up to a rather stunning body of work.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:17:07pm |
re: #17 Pavlovian Hive Mind
Now, the micromanaging amendments begin.
“Defund the ACA to pay for Obama’s War!” coming soon.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:17:42pm |
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Pygmalion Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:20:36pm |
re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth
Derp is such a great term for this!
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:22:45pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:22:49pm |
re: #24 Pygmalion
Derp is such a great term for this!
yeppers. The word was invented for just such as this.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:23:02pm |
Kerry Blows Up At GOP Rep For Harping On Benghazi At Syria Hearing
“I cannot discuss the possibility of the U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war without talking about Benghazi,” Duncan said, questioning Kerry at a Wednesday hearing.
“The administration has a serious credibility issue with the American people, due to the unanswered questions surrounding the terrorist attack in Benghazi almost a year ago. When you factor in the IRS targeting of conservative groups, the AP and James Rosen issues, Fast and Furious and NSA spying programs, the bottom line is that there is a need for accountability and trust-building from the administration,” he said. “The American people deserve answers about Benghazi before we move forward in Syria’s civil war.”
That set off Kerry, who forcefully condemned Duncan for his claims.
“I’m not going to sit here and be told by you that I don’t have a set of — a sense of what the judgment is,” he said. “We are talking about people being killed by gas and you want to go talk about Benghazi and Fast and Furious.”
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Jack Burton Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:23:29pm |
re: #18 Lidane
Bryan Fischer: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTERIA!!!1!11
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brennant Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:24:06pm |
re: #29 Jack Burton
Bryan Fischer: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, MASS HYSTERIA!!!1!11
It’s true. This man has no dick.
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FurryNavyDude Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:24:09pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:24:31pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:24:36pm |
Rep. Randy Weber tries to get Hagel to “guarantee” a stable Syria. What freaking planet do these people live on?— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 4, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:25:38pm |
re: #34 Charles Johnson
[Embedded content]
Just like Bush was able to guarantee a stable Iraq and Afghanistan before Congress approved his actions?
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:25:48pm |
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HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:26:37pm |
re: #9 Kragar
And a big part of the problem
Barton: Being A Good Scientist Or Mathematician Requires A Proper ‘Fear Of The Lord’Ours is a kind and loving God, who will fuck you up if you ever fucking cross him, so watch yourself bitches. God bless.
/
Reminder but Barton played a big role in shaping the GOP platform last year. This is a man who shapes policy. What a fucking psychopath.
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:27:17pm |
re: #37 HappyWarrior
Reminder but Barton played a big role in shaping the GOP platform last year. This is a man who shapes policy. What a fucking psychopath.
Just wait until he gets ahold of the 2016 platform…
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:27:18pm |
re: #21 Kragar
“Defund the ACA to pay for Obama’s War!” coming soon.
Oh, it’ll be coming, though the fact that the Arab League will help underwrite the cost of the US action may take the teeth out of that.
Well, that and the fact that so few people actually support defunding Obamacare, even among self-identified GOPers. 30% of GOPers may want it repealed, but far more are realizing that it’s the law and it’s going to happen - and that they may even appreciate its benefits (the GOP has been chaotically evil in hyping how bad the law will be, but when you identify specific parts of the program, most people think it a good idea - like eliminating preexisting condition limits or extending coverage to dependents through age 26).
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:27:22pm |
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:27:25pm |
Rubio, you idiot.
None of what you say can even happen as long as Assad can get away with using chem weapons.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:27:39pm |
re: #37 HappyWarrior
Reminder but Barton played a big role in shaping the GOP platform last year. This is a man who shapes policy. What a fucking psychopath.
For people who believe in an all powerful God, they certainly think he needs their help to run shit down here.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:29:49pm |
re: #44 Pavlovian Hive Mind
The hell is he going on about???
“WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?!”
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:29:54pm |
re: #41 FemNaziBitch
Rapist collapses in terror when police report that his victim was HIV-positive
This is me playing the world’s smallest violin.
Maybe if he wasn’t a rapist asshole he wouldn’t be having an HIV scare now.
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blueraven Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:29:55pm |
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:30:27pm |
File this under “OH PLUEEZ!”
Concerned Mom: Slutty Girls’ Selfies Are Tempting My Perfect Sons
You know, my only child is a son. He is definitely male. He’s a good guy, but I’m under no delusions.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:30:32pm |
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piratedan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:31:49pm |
re: #49 Pavlovian Hive Mind
oh, that’s an improvement for him…..
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:32:02pm |
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Pygmalion Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:32:05pm |
re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth
yeppers. The word was invented for just such as this.
I wonder how anyone can be a Republican. So sad.
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:32:11pm |
#BREAKING: Senate Foreign Relations Committee approves resolution on use of force in #Syria, 10-7 with 1 present.— Politics Now (@latimespolitics) September 4, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:32:46pm |
There are those who think we should have gone for Syria instead of Iraq. I’ve been hearing such sentiments since 2001.
I expect to hear more of them now.
We should have gone there in the first place!
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:33:27pm |
re: #48 FemNaziBitch
I had several female friends post that the other day, imploring parents to read it with their kids (i.e., with their daughters).
I found it hard to belive that article wasn’t satire. WTF.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:33:37pm |
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:34:21pm |
BREAKING: Senate panel approves resolution giving Obama authority to use military force against Syria— The Associated Press (@AP) September 4, 2013
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:34:23pm |
re: #54 lawhawk
Okay, who is the cantaloupe who didn’t vote?
Also, 7th County in NM is doing Same Sex Marriage.
New Mexico’s Grant County will soon become the seventh county in recent weeks to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
Grant County Clerk Robert Zamarripa said his office will begin issuing licenses to same sex couples on Monday, according to the Associated Press. The clerk said he will comply with a district judge’s order issued following a lawsuit brought by a lesbian couple.
Zamarripa’s decision came the same week that Los Alamos County Clerk Sharon Stover refused to follow a court order to begin issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples. Stover must appear in court to argue why she should not have to issue the marriage licenses.
A number of New Mexico clerks recently took legal action to push the New Mexico Supreme Court to rule on whether all clerks in the state have to issue licenses to same-sex couples.
If I am not mistaken, Los Animas county is hard-right and full of engineers.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:34:47pm |
re: #57 Kragar
I LOL’d.
Here Are All The People Who Have Died From A Marijuana Overdose
Really, I think you’d have a hard time staying awake to smoke enough to kill you.
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Bulworth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:35:04pm |
re: #56 Lidane
And the mom’s skin-clad boys posing on the beach. WTF?
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:35:05pm |
OUTRAGE!
Boston Public Schools to serve ALL students free meals http://t.co/E5PwQqo42o— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 4, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:35:07pm |
re: #9 Kragar
And a big part of the problem
Barton: Being A Good Scientist Or Mathematician Requires A Proper ‘Fear Of The Lord’Ours is a kind and loving God, who will fuck you up if you ever fucking cross him, so watch yourself bitches. God bless.
/
So He’s half Mace Windu/half Samuel L Jackson?
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:36:01pm |
re: #46 Lidane
This is me playing the world’s smallest violin.
Maybe if he wasn’t a rapist asshole he wouldn’t be having an HIV scare now.
Well, I feel for the rape survivor. Being raped and having HIV.
Yet there is some sick satisfaction over karmic retribution for the rapist.
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dog philosopher Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:36:08pm |
re: #28 Kragar
Kerry Blows Up At GOP Rep For Harping On Benghazi At Syria Hearing
“I cannot discuss the possibility of the U.S. involvement in the Syrian civil war without talking about Benghazi”
then see a doctor about it, don’t bother us
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:36:23pm |
re: #63 Eclectic Cyborg
So He’s half Mace Windu/half Samuel L Jackson?
I still say Boba Fett should have killed that character.
“Hello. My name is Boba Fett. You killed my father. Prepare to die.”
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:37:15pm |
The “race realists” over at National Racists Online are at it again:
Wow: a right-wing media editorial actually compared the DOJ's efforts to desegregate Louisiana schools to Jim Crow. http://t.co/4fMk28tqhZ— Media Matters (@mmfa) September 4, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:37:55pm |
re: #64 FemNaziBitch
Well, I feel for the rape survivor. Being raped and having HIV.
Yet there is some sick satisfaction over karmic retribution for the rapist.
Words cannot express my feeling about what should be done to rapists. He should never be told the results, just keep him isolated and wondering for the rest of his hopefully short, miserable life.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:38:22pm |
re: #64 FemNaziBitch
Well, I feel for the rape survivor. Being raped and having HIV.
Yet there is some sick satisfaction over karmic retribution for the rapist.
Sure. I feel awful for her.
Her rapist, OTOH, can go fuck himself. If he hadn’t attacked someone and imposed his will on them against her will, he wouldn’t be freaking out now.
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Bulworth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:39:53pm |
re: #67 Lidane
NRO has an outstanding record on race-relations, going back to the 1950’s. Everyone should listen to them. //
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:40:35pm |
Is it really our fault that 1400 dead because of Sarin gas isn’t enough to convince the world, Mr Udall???
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:42:20pm |
re: #71 Pavlovian Hive Mind
Is it really our fault that 1400 dead because of Sarin gas isn’t enough to convince the world, Mr Udall???
Yes, because Benghazi.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:42:59pm |
re: #59 ProTARDISLiberal
Okay, who is the cantaloupe who didn’t vote?
Also, 7th County in NM is doing Same Sex Marriage.
If I am not mistaken, Los Animas county is hard-right and full of engineers.
Los Alamos is home to a big national laboratory. It has the highest concentration of millionaires in the country, and is surely the best-educated part of NM. Weird place to be sure, but I wouldn’t call it hard right. Obama won there in 2012.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:43:36pm |
Here we go again with Benghazi. #TripleFacePalm— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 4, 2013
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piratedan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:43:59pm |
re: #65 dog philosopher
remember all of those conversations about Kuwait before we invaded Iraq again? Me neither…..
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:44:02pm |
re: #71 Pavlovian Hive Mind
Or the 100,000+ killed in the course of the civil war, the gross violation of human rights under the Geneva Convention, and specifically targeting civilians.
Just a statistic. For the bean counters when the butcher’s bill is tallied.
Bashar’s killed far more in his quest to rid Syria of his enemies than his dad Hafez ever did. And that’s saying something. Bashar’s war against his opposition is a meatgrinding affair - not the stark and extreme use of force that his evil dad did at Hama. But he’s using his dad’s playbook with ruthlessness that his father would appreciate.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:44:14pm |
Ok, I guess Assad needs to kill more people with gas to convince the world.
This is what I’m getting from these numbnuts.
Fucked up.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:44:26pm |
re: #73 Bulworth
So who voted for/against?
10-7
2 dems/ 5 repubs against
from what I also hear, Mass Senator Markey ,,,, “present”
Breakdown to follow
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:44:58pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:45:21pm |
showed bipartisan support for a strike, but bipartisan opposition as well. Yes votes included Senators John McCain, Republican of Arizona, Bob Corker, Republican of Tennessee, and Jeff Flake, Republican of Arizona. No votes included Democratic Senators Tom Udall of New Mexico and Chris Murphy of Connecticut. The Senate’s newest member, Edward Markey, Democrat of Massachusetts, voted present.
Ed Markey, who called on the WH to seek Congressional approval, and when put up for a vote, decided to show he was present:
Ed Markey had called on the White House to seek approval for any military action from Congress. Once they did, Markey voted “present.”— Matt Viser (@mviser) September 4, 2013
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:46:36pm |
Jesus, it’s already a civil war you twit.
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b.d. Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:47:24pm |
re: #79 sattv4u2
10-7
2 dems/ 5 repubs against
from what I also hear, Mass Senator Markey ,,,, “present”
Breakdown to follow
Markey voted present out of respect to Kerry and his old seat? Much better than a no vote which would created its own minor s*itstorm.
That would be my take on it.
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:48:12pm |
Sorry, these people are annoying me.
:/
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:48:47pm |
re: #83 b.d.
Markey voted present out of respect to Kerry and his old seat? Much better than a no vote which would created its own minor s*itstorm.
That would be my take on it.
But Kerry is FOR the resolution, so if it’s “out of respect to Kerry and his old seat” wouldn’t you think he would have voted YES??
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dog philosopher Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:49:18pm |
re: #76 piratedan
remember all of those conversations about Kuwait before we invaded Iraq again? Me neither…..
who ate
who ate kuwait?
who ate
who ate kuwait?
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blueraven Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:49:58pm |
re: #86 sattv4u2
But Kerry is FOR the resolution, so if it’s “out of respect to Kerry and his old seat” wouldn’t you think he would have voted YES??
Not if he was inclined to vote no
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:50:10pm |
re: #74 wrenchwench
I go off of the county government.
They hold a 4-3 edge in the county council, and all 4 off the executive positions.
I say we start pulling federal programs out until they accept gay marriage.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:50:26pm |
pic.twitter.com/JJMtvJdeQH— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) September 4, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:50:40pm |
Sorry all, I just can’t bring myself to watch C-SPAN right now. My brain is not ready for it, yet, this year.
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b.d. Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:50:51pm |
re: #86 sattv4u2
But Kerry is FOR the resolution, so if it’s “out of respect to Kerry and his old seat” wouldn’t you think he would have voted YES??
I’m sayin Markey was probably wanting to vote NO but decided to vote present out of respect for Kerry.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:51:02pm |
re: #81 lawhawk
And, to a large extent, I think that vote does reflect the national feeling I think is out there that has serious reservations about going in, but also still sees the need to do so sooner rather than later.
Does it threaten to become another military quagmire for the US? Yes. Will it rile up anti-US rhetoric and possibly cause more attempted anti-US terrorist attacks? Probably. But, do we also want the degrading standard against use of chemical weapons; e.g. mustard, sarin, etc. to continue eroding? No, I don’t think so.
So, we work towards coalition building, and I think also work on Russia and China via backdoor diplomacy to be willing to cut Assad loose by allowing a UN resolution to get past the Security Council.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:51:17pm |
re: #89 ProTARDISLiberal
I go off of the county government.
They hold a 4-3 edge in the county council, and all 4 off the executive positions.
I say we start pulling federal programs out until they accept gay marriage.
How about when the government passes the ERA?
women are human beings.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:51:30pm |
re: #88 blueraven
Not if he was inclined to vote no
Then call Kerry and tell him that. His “NO” vote wouldn’t have changed the outcome and Markey comes off as principled!
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First As Tragedy, Then As Farce Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:52:06pm |
The continuing adventures of Florida Man, World’s Worst Superhero
Florida man cites ‘Bush doctrine’ after pre-emptive killing of neighbors at Labor Day cookout
Lawyers for a Florida man this week cited President George W. Bush’s pre-emptive war in Iraq and the “Bush Doctrine” as a defense after their client killed two neighbors and attempted to kill a third on Labor Day.
Good to know that lawyers in Florida can assert any old crazy-ass thing and have no fear of being put into mental hospitals where they belong.
On second thought, does Florida actually have any mental hospitals?
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:52:33pm |
Look, media, Russia only cares about the weapon sales to Syria. That’s all.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:52:49pm |
re: #89 ProTARDISLiberal
I go off of the county government.
They hold a 4-3 edge in the county council, and all 4 off the executive positions.
I say we start pulling federal programs out until they accept gay marriage.
That’s ridiculous. Pull out a national laboratory? What other national programs would you pull to punish random people? Food stamps? Medicare?
One can use means other than punishment to motivate behavior. The courts are going to settle the rest of the counties soon.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:52:59pm |
re: #92 b.d.
see 95
being a senator from Massachusetts I would expect his constituency would have wanted him to vote NO
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:54:23pm |
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:54:25pm |
re: #96 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
The continuing adventures of Florida Man, World’s Worst Superhero
Florida man cites ‘Bush doctrine’ after pre-emptive killing of neighbors at Labor Day cookoutGood to know that lawyers in Florida can assert any old crazy-ass thing and have no fear of being put into mental hospitals where they belong.
On second thought, does Florida actually have any mental hospitals?
Florida actually is a mental hospital, it would seem.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:55:42pm |
re: #101 Dr Lizardo
Florida actually is a mental hospital, it would seem.
WHAT ABOUT DISNEY WORLD????
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Pavlovian Hive Mind Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:56:01pm |
Florida Man Accuses Cop Of Weighing His Crack Wrong, Claims “I Do This For A Living” | http://t.co/zelIdXAU2v
— Florida Man (@_FloridaMan) August 29, 2013
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blueraven Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:56:03pm |
re: #100 sattv4u2
The “present” votes not going to play well back home, and will come back to haunt him come time for re-election. Someone there (Massachusttes) wil take a hard run at him from the left due to this
OK calm down dude. It was just a suggested reason for the vote. Nobody really knows.
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piratedan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:56:25pm |
re: #100 sattv4u2
and he’ll swat them away most likely, Ed has a solid rep in the state and the folks in Mass aren’t usually one issue voters
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:57:30pm |
re: #104 blueraven
OK calm down dude. It was just a suggested reason for the vote. Nobody really knows.
I’m extremely calm. I was just pointing out a flaw in that reasoning
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:57:47pm |
re: #96 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
The continuing adventures of Florida Man, World’s Worst Superhero
Florida man cites ‘Bush doctrine’ after pre-emptive killing of neighbors at Labor Day cookoutGood to know that lawyers in Florida can assert any old crazy-ass thing and have no fear of being put into mental hospitals where they belong.
On second thought, does Florida actually have any mental hospitals?
Yeah, this is what happens when people think the “right to self-defense” by use of firearm is a “license to kill.”
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:58:18pm |
re: #105 piratedan
and he’ll swat them away most likely, Ed has a solid rep in the state and the folks in Mass aren’t usually one issue voters
umm,, yes,, they are
I lived there for the 1st 45 years of my life. Voted in many many elections there. I saw “one issue” take the win MANY times
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:59:18pm |
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piratedan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 12:59:56pm |
re: #108 sattv4u2
well you best file your petitions then… After Liz Warren got elected, not sure how many firebaggers (i keed, I keed) are left on the bench.
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Romantic Heretic Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:02:55pm |
re: #2 Kragar
The only thing I expect to learn from the House session is what a bunch of fucking idiots House Republicans are.
What does that say about the people that elected them?
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:04:52pm |
re: #111 Romantic Heretic
What does that say about the people that elected them?
In a representative democracy, even the ignorant, petty, and malignant get equal representation.
///
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jaunte Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:05:06pm |
From the talking-over-the-answer habits on display, there are too many prosecutors in Congress.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:07:07pm |
re: #111 Romantic Heretic
What does that say about the people that elected them?
Well, I find it difficult to totally blame the voters. It’s hard to elect good representatives from the pool that actually wants the job.
How we can make the job more attractive to people with more integrity, I don’t know. How we can keep the job from eroding that integrity, I really don’t know.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:07:17pm |
Rep. Ted Yoho: “I hope you men are men of prayer.”
Guess which party?
Doesn’t support intervention.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:07:25pm |
re: #114 jaunte
From the talking-over-the-answer habits on display, there are too many prosecutors in Congress.
Yes, I agree, Lawyers are the problem.
:0
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:10:50pm |
Time to write Tom Udall a sternly worded email.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:12:12pm |
Uh oh.
I took a tray of oven-baked potatoes out of the oven, and I thought, “I’ll just sample a slice or two, just to make sure they are seasoned just right!”
A slice or two led to half the tray.
Zedushka came home and he polished off the rest of the tray.
Another tray is in the oven. Heh.
(These are 8” X 8” trays)
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Ming Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:12:23pm |
re: #19 dog philosopher
God-fearing
in practice, since god isn’t around to enforce it, this means ‘shut up and do what i tell you’
Yes, absolutely, there are many people for whom that’s exactly what “god fearing” means. Some of them make good money.
And there are other people for whom it means: “I’m scared to death of something, I feel better when I call it “god”, and I want you to be filled with fear, like me. So show me some humility! The last thing in the world I want to see is people who aren’t saturated with fear.”
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:13:35pm |
Joe Wilson never fails to fail (it's the easiest thing to do) - Syria as #Benghazi cover-up! http://t.co/byLdFLDr4l— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 4, 2013
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:14:05pm |
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:14:25pm |
So, in a few weeks or so, when The Plan works in Syria, can Pres Obama, Secy Kerry and those who back it start saying, Nyah, nyah, nyah, I told you so?
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:14:44pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:14:46pm |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:15:01pm |
re: #121 Ming
Yes, absolutely, there are many people for whom that’s exactly what “god fearing” means. Some of them make good money.
And there are other people for whom it means: “I’m scared to death of something, I feel better when I call it “god”, and I want you to be filled with fear, like me. So show me some humility! The last thing in the world I want to see is people who aren’t saturated with fear.”
See, that’s what I like about being a Juice! We have one day a year to feel bad about stuff we did that was offence against humans & G-D, and not eat, and then we feel better and we eat!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:15:52pm |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
So, in a few weeks or so, when The Plan works in Syria, can Pres Obama, Secy Kerry and those who back it start saying, Nyah, nyah, nyah, I told you so?
plan?
PLAN!?!?!
We don’t need no stinkin’ plan!!
/
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:15:56pm |
re: #127 Vicious Babushka
See, that’s what I like about being a Juice! We have one day a year to feel bad about stuff we did that was offence against humans & G-D, and not eat, and then we feel better and we eat!
RC’s get to go to confession just about whenever they need/want to. We just keep on eating and drinking thru out the year.
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:16:28pm |
re: #129 FemNaziBitch
RC’s get to go to confession just about whenever they need/want to. We just keep on eating and drinking thru out the year.
Yeah, but don’t you have like a whole bunch of Lent?
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:17:02pm |
Kid came home and is now cleaning my car —with the carpet cleaner and the whole 9-yards.
date?
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:17:25pm |
re: #130 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, but don’t you have like a whole bunch of Lent?
I don’t know. Only the converts and old ladies pay attention to that stuff.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:17:33pm |
re: #114 jaunte
From the talking-over-the-answer habits on display, there are too many prosecutors in Congress.
Not interested in listening to the answers. They’re interested in their own air time and performance, not in getting information.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:17:34pm |
re: #131 FemNaziBitch
Kid came home and is now cleaning my car —with the carpet cleaner and the whole 9-yards.
date?
You really shouldn’t date your kid!!
just sayin
:)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:17:44pm |
re: #96 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
The continuing adventures of Florida Man, World’s Worst Superhero
Florida man cites ‘Bush doctrine’ after pre-emptive killing of neighbors at Labor Day cookoutGood to know that lawyers in Florida can assert any old crazy-ass thing and have no fear of being put into mental hospitals where they belong.
On second thought, does Florida actually have any mental hospitals?
I believe so…it’s the Florida state legislature
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:18:07pm |
OK now I feel bad again. I asked the landscapers to pull out the grass between the cracks in the driveway, and they did, and then they drove away before I could give them a tip!
I guess I will just have to give them a tip the next time.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:18:30pm |
re: #130 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, but don’t you have like a whole bunch of Lent?
Oh, the sackcloth and ashes went out last century for most. : )
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:19:27pm |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
So, in a few weeks or so, when The Plan works in Syria, can Pres Obama, Secy Kerry and those who back it start saying, Nyah, nyah, nyah, I told you so?
No. It will work because Kerry and Obama were willing to embrace conservative values for once.
/////
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:19:49pm |
re: #131 FemNaziBitch
Kid came home and is now cleaning my car —with the carpet cleaner and the whole 9-yards.
date?
“I hope she didn’t smell the weed!”
///
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:20:53pm |
Voting YES on Syria resolution: Boxer, Cardin, Shaheen, Coons, Durbin, Kaine, Corker, Flake, McCain
Voting NO on Syria resolution: Udall (D-N.M.), Murphy, Risch, Rubio, Johnson, Barrasso, Paul
Markey,,, present
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:21:31pm |
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:21:58pm |
re: #140 Kragar
“I hope she didn’t smell the weed!”
///
I wish. No, I’d more likely be the other way around. He’s trying to get the cigarette smoke smell out of the car.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:21:58pm |
re: #113 Kragar
In a representative democracy, even the ignorant, petty, and malignant get equal representation.
///
hey, that’s not a nice thing to say about my state (Kentucky).
It might be true…but it’s still not nice…
//
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Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:22:30pm |
re: #3 Pavlovian Hive Mind
BENGHAZI IRS NSA DEBT LIMIT 32 WARSHIPS! ARUGALA MUSLIMS KENYAN
Wingnut Tourettes.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:23:04pm |
re: #114 jaunte
From the talking-over-the-answer habits on display, there are too many prosecutors in Congress.
more like spoiled brats. I’m just surprised they don’t just stick their fingers in their ears and scream “lalalalalalalala I can’t hear you!”
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:23:27pm |
Syrians Do Not See Quick End to Conflict
Many are internally displaced; 47% would leave Syria if they could
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Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:23:42pm |
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lawhawk Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:23:43pm |
re: #128 sattv4u2
Plan? When have any of our plans actually… you know… worked? /Harry Potter
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:23:47pm |
I have cleaned out the fridge and freezer successfully and managed to not kill myself while taking the ladder out to remove an old smoke detector from our front entryway.
Oh, and the dishwasher is emptied and reloaded, and the trash cans brought back in, and the island counter is mostly cleared off.
I get a cookie now, right?
/being an adult sucks.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:24:27pm |
re: #146 Backwoods_Sleuth
more like spoiled brats. I’m just surprised they don’t just stick their fingers in their ears and scream “lalalalalalalala I can’t hear you!”
You mean they haven’t? I though that is what they’ve been doing all along. Just, you know, in a Congressional-sort of way. Playing video poker, looking like they are interested, talking to staffers …
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:24:39pm |
re: #150 klys
I have cleaned out the fridge and freezer successfully and managed to not kill myself while taking the ladder out to remove an old smoke detector from our front entryway.
Oh, and the dishwasher is emptied and reloaded, and the trash cans brought back in, and the island counter is mostly cleared off.
I get a cookie now, right?
/being an adult sucks.
Not until you finish your veggies
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:01pm |
re: #147 FemNaziBitch
Syrians Do Not See Quick End to Conflict
Many are internally displaced; 47% would leave Syria if they could
10% already have.
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:05pm |
re: #152 sattv4u2
Not until you finish your veggies
All the veggies went in the trash.
You really don’t want to know how old they were.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:06pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:15pm |
re: #150 klys
I have cleaned out the fridge and freezer successfully and managed to not kill myself while taking the ladder out to remove an old smoke detector from our front entryway.
Oh, and the dishwasher is emptied and reloaded, and the trash cans brought back in, and the island counter is mostly cleared off.
I get a cookie now, right?
/being an adult sucks.
I have a few trillion virtual cookies to spare…
;)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:45pm |
re: #120 Vicious Babushka
Uh oh.
I took a tray of oven-baked potatoes out of the oven, and I thought, “I’ll just sample a slice or two, just to make sure they are seasoned just right!”
A slice or two led to half the tray.
Zedushka came home and he polished off the rest of the tray.
Another tray is in the oven. Heh.
(These are 8” X 8” trays)
can never be too careful…have to be safe for the “let’s eat!” holiday.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:51pm |
re: #154 klys
All the veggies went in the trash.
You really don’t want to know how old they were.
carbon dated them, didjya!?!?
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:25:58pm |
re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader
I have a few trillion virtual cookies to spare…
;)
Still chugging away, I need 7 more cursors and 17 more time machines and I will have it alllllllllllllllllllllll.
Well, and 27 more golden cookies.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:26:05pm |
re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader
I have a few trillion virtual cookies to spare…
;)
Are they Evercookies?
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:26:07pm |
re: #62 Lidane
OUTRAGE!
I do object to the use of adjective “free”, though. It is part of the utopian-left view of nothing every having to cost everything.
A better description is “public-paid”. The public-paid meals are intended to make sure all children have at least one properly nutritious meal a day.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:26:19pm |
re: #150 klys
I have cleaned out the fridge and freezer successfully and managed to not kill myself while taking the ladder out to remove an old smoke detector from our front entryway.
Oh, and the dishwasher is emptied and reloaded, and the trash cans brought back in, and the island counter is mostly cleared off.
I get a cookie now, right?
/being an adult sucks.
I just put the last load of laundry in the dryer.
*edit* for the week.
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:26:45pm |
re: #159 klys
Still chugging away, I need 7 more cursors and 17 more time machines and I will have it alllllllllllllllllllllll.
Well, and 27 more golden cookies.
You’ll have it all until the next update.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:27:21pm |
re: #159 klys
Still chugging away, I need 7 more cursors and 17 more time machines and I will have it alllllllllllllllllllllll.
Well, and 27 more golden cookies.
Heh. I need 7 time machines and about 27 cursors. Getting more achievements at this point means excessive messing with the Grandma Collective. (v1.034)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:27:27pm |
re: #130 Vicious Babushka
Yeah, but don’t you have like a whole bunch of Lent?
yeah…I usually gave up lima beans…
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:27:35pm |
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elizajane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:27:52pm |
The other day a faculty member whom I had NEVER met in any context came up to me and said, “Don’t you think we need to be organizing some protests against Obama invading Syria?”
I pretended to be deaf. It is a talent I have cultivated in years of dealing with my Fox-loving father.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:28:46pm |
re: #161 freetoken
It is permeated through society by business interests. Always talking about getting something for free. Buy one get one free for example. It is a marketing gimick and I whole heartedly agree that the use of “free” for government services should be banished from the conversation.
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Bulworth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:28:48pm |
re: #167 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m in like year 47 of giving up lima beans. It’s a challenge, but there are some things I’ll make the ultimate sacrifice for.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:29:24pm |
re: #163 Bubblehead II
I just put the last load of laundry in the dryer.
The last load?!? You’re giving up wearing clothes? Or just giving up washing them in the future?
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:29:46pm |
re: #171 Bulworth
I’m in like year 47 of giving up lima beans. It’s a challenge, but there are some things I’ll make the ultimate sacrifice for.
Every lima bean you forego grows up to become a brussel sprout!
:p
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:30:10pm |
re: #170 Amory Blaine
It is permeated through society by business interests. Always talking about getting something for free. Buy one get one free for example. It is a marketing gimick and I whole heartedly agree that the use of “free” for government services should be banished form the conversation.
I really don’t want to know the fraction of the population that would fall for “Buy two for twice the price, get the third one FREE”.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:30:28pm |
re: #172 wrenchwench
The last load?!? You’re giving up wearing clothes? Or just giving up washing them in the future?
Last load for the week.
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:31:06pm |
Next challenge of adulthood: meal planning so I have a list for the grocery store tomorrow.
/because apparently pizza every day is not a valid meal plan.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:31:06pm |
re: #174 EPR-radar
I really don’t want to know the fraction of the population that would fall for “Buy two for twice the price, get the third one FREE”.
Imagine how a 3-for-the-price-of-2 lottery ticket sale would work out.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:31:31pm |
re: #175 Bubblehead II
Last load for the week.
I’ve thought that before. Then the cat barfs a hairball on the bed.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:32:38pm |
I had my hair cut, shopped at the local thrift store (got a Vera Wang purse for $5 and some other stuff), picked up some cookies and a few other things, did a load of towels and cleaned the bathroom.
I had a banana and a cup of coffee. And the other food Frank liked.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:32:39pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:32:42pm |
re: #176 klys
Next challenge of adulthood: meal planning so I have a list for the grocery store tomorrow.
/because apparently pizza every day is not a valid meal plan.
It isn’t??????
I haz a sad…
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:33:26pm |
Not exactly like Ahmadinejad…
MT @tarakangarlou: Iran's new president Rouhani Just Tweeted Wishing All Jews a Happy Rosh Hashanah. pic.twitter.com/WruBlD9s1L— Steve Inskeep (@NPRinskeep) September 4, 2013
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:33:48pm |
re: #181 Backwoods_Sleuth
It isn’t??????
I haz a sad…
Me too.
Apparently what I really should be plotting is how to steal VB and make her cook for me. I promise I am significantly less likely to read Atlas Shrugged in the bathroom.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:11pm |
I like peeling back the sales price on the shelf at the grocery store to reveal the original label with the exact same price underneath.
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steve_davis Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:11pm |
re: #5 Targetpractice
They’re gonna vote against authorization, so why not just haul their sorry asses in early and put it all to an end now. Stop wasting people’s time with this illusion of a functioning government.
It’s all political theater. The congressmen just haven’t realized yet that they’re the clowns in the production. Look for lots of commercials next year in which moderate Democratic candidates killing various random creatures in campaign ads get compared to bowl-cut Republican jackwagons making us all less safe by emboldening the terrorists.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:17pm |
I woke-up made coffee and sat down at the desk. A while later, I got up and made another cuppa.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:17pm |
re: #176 klys
Next challenge of adulthood: meal planning so I have a list for the grocery store tomorrow.
/because apparently pizza every day is not a valid meal plan.
Tonights dinner decision. Pork Tenderloin. To roast or slow cook?
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:24pm |
re: #173 Feline Fearless Leader
Every lima bean you forego grows up to become a brussel sprout!
:p
You guys must not be cooking your lima beans and brussels sprouts right. in my family we like them so much that my Mom and Dad used to GROW lima beans and brussels sprouts in the garden every year.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:34pm |
re: #173 Feline Fearless Leader
Every lima bean you forego grows up to become a brussel sprout!
:p
I will take all your lima beans and butter beans, too. : )
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:44pm |
re: #176 klys
Next challenge of adulthood: meal planning so I have a list for the grocery store tomorrow.
/because apparently pizza every day is not a valid meal plan.
I ended up with leftover hotdogs and sausage from the Labor Day cook-out. So it looks like I get to work on creativity with those this week. Probably something like polenta with spinach, carrots, and sliced sausage for tonight.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:52pm |
re: #188 Bubblehead II
Tonights dinner decision. Pork Tenderloin. To roast or slow cook?
Restaurant.
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:54pm |
Would like to point out with regard to Obama's choice of Kerry as SOS, that Jesus, Superman, Spider Man, and Gandhi weren't available.— Fishgrease (@Fishbooom) September 4, 2013
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:34:55pm |
re: #178 FemNaziBitch
I’ve thought that before. Then the cat barfs a hairball on the bed.
Feline Overlords are outside cats. So that isn’t a problem.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:35:47pm |
re: #194 Bubblehead II
Feline Overlords are outside cats. So that isn’t a problem.
Never fear, there are also 3 dogs to pick-up any slack.
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:36:09pm |
re: #188 Bubblehead II
Tonights dinner decision. Pork Tenderloin. To roast or slow cook?
Hmm. That is a tough one. Trying to remember what I did the last time I made pork tenderloin, which was roughly 9 months ago because then my dissertation ate my life.
The night PBO got re-elected was our second wedding anniversary, and we made fresh pasta together while drinking some wine and served that with a tasty mushroom and olive sauce. Ohio was called right in the middle of cooking. It was a fantastic night.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:06pm |
re: #172 wrenchwench
The last load?!? You’re giving up wearing clothes? Or just giving up washing them in the future?
It’s not like dishes - you can’t just wear paper plates instead of washing them.
Well, maybe you could. Just don’t go out in the rain.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:08pm |
re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader
I ended up with leftover hotdogs and sausage from the Labor Day cook-out. So it looks like I get to work on creativity with those this week. Probably something like polenta with spinach, carrots, and sliced sausage for tonight.
Fill crock pot with equal parts beer, sausage, sauerkraut, potato. Leave for the day.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:14pm |
re: #193 darthstar
[Embedded content]
So he chose Bubble Boy?
Image: Kerry%20Bunny%20Suit.jpg
(sorry,, too easy)
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:18pm |
Theodore Shoebat: ‘Outlaw The Sodomite Before He Outlaws You’
Walid Shoebat regularly appears on conservative media outlets as he will reliably attack President Obama as a secret Muslim who is aiding a nefarious plot to bring sharia law to the US, and he often brings his son Theodore along on with him to warn of the Islamist conspiracy. Theodore wrote on Shoebat’s website yesterday that there is a threat just as bad if not greater than the imposition of Islamic law: gay sharia.
He argues that “the homosexual agenda” is “about conquest, and the persecution of Christians.”
“If they succeed, we will live under an outright Homosexual inquisition, and if they really had their way, they would build a homosexual empire.”
Shoebat claims that gay people are “striving to establish a sodomite despotism” that will restore an “ancient utopia much more depraved than now” when homosexuality “was part of religion and government.”
GAY SHARIA! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:44pm |
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Fill crock pot with equal parts beer, sausage, sauerkraut, potato. Leave for the day.
Should you plug it in??
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:37:48pm |
re: #196 klys
Hmm. That is a tough one. Trying to remember what I did the last time I made pork tenderloin, which was roughly 9 months ago because then my dissertation ate my life.
The night PBO got re-elected was our second wedding anniversary, and we made fresh pasta together while drinking some wine and served that with a tasty mushroom and olive sauce. Ohio was called right in the middle of cooking. It was a fantastic night.
That night really is a never ending source of warm fuzzies. Rove on Fox News and the GOP belief that they would win remain my favorites.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:38:04pm |
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
Al-Qaida-linked rebels launched an assault on a regime-held Christian mountain village in the densely populated west of Syria and new clashes erupted near the capital, Damascus, on Wednesday — part of a brutal battle of attrition each side believes it can win despite more than two years of deadlock.
In the attack on the village of Maaloula, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel and nearby caves and shelled the community below, said a nun, speaking by phone from a convent in the village. She spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisals.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:38:46pm |
Despite The GOP-Led Attacks Against It, Planned Parenthood Isn’t As Controversial As You Think
In fact, the majority of people in the United States don’t support defunding Planned Parenthood. After the 2012 election, polling found that Mitt Romney’s explicit anti-Planned Parenthood stance didn’t sit well with voters, 62 percent of whom didn’t support cutting off federal funding for the women’s health organization. A more recent poll found that the majority of Americans, and 60 percent of women, have a favorable view of Planned Parenthood. Predictably, those numbers rise among people who have had a personal experience with the organization, either if they’ve received health services there themselves or if they know someone else who has.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:38:49pm |
re: #192 FemNaziBitch
Restaurant.
Unlike the 1 percenters, I have a budget that I have to work with.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:38:49pm |
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Fill crock pot with equal parts beer, sausage, sauerkraut, potato. Leave for the day.
That might be tomorrow’s option.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:05pm |
re: #200 Kragar
Theodore Shoebat: ‘Outlaw The Sodomite Before He Outlaws You’
GAY SHARIA! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
lolwut?!
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Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:25pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:26pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
Yup,, because when you want to remove a despot, nothing better than to shell a nun!!
In the attack on the village of Maaloula, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel and nearby caves and shelled the community below, said a nun,
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:34pm |
re: #188 Bubblehead II
Tonights dinner decision. Pork Tenderloin. To roast or slow cook?
Roast with garlic and rosemary. Deglaze pan with some white wine.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:34pm |
re: #191 Feline Fearless Leader
I ended up with leftover hotdogs and sausage from the Labor Day cook-out.
That’s what I was GOING TO eat last night for dinner. Th older boy and i made hot dogs AND hamburgers, and a big bunch of potato salad. Between the wife and the two boys, the burgers and dogs were GONE when I got home.
The only reason the potato salad was still there was because of my wife’s ‘See Food Diet’ - she only eats what she can see in the fridge.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:39:50pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
When should they have attacked?
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:40:04pm |
re: #200 Kragar
Theodore Shoebat: ‘Outlaw The Sodomite Before He Outlaws You’
GAY SHARIA! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!
“Shoebat”
*snicker*
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:40:30pm |
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:40:36pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
Because American foreign policy must be set to Al Qaeda’s timelines. Really.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:02pm |
re: #206 Feline Fearless Leader
That might be tomorrow’s option.
All the really critical recipes fit in a tweet.
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:06pm |
re: #161 freetoken
I do object to the use of adjective “free”, though. It is part of the utopian-left view of nothing every having to cost everything.
Re-reading that… it sounds like I came through a failed public school…
It is part of the utopian-left view of nothing ever
yhaving to costeveryanything.
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:20pm |
re: #200 Kragar
Their fever dreams are getting more intense. This one in particular has more than a whiff of “Oh, please no, don’t throw me into that orgy pit.”
Can we sic the Hollywood unions on these folks for unauthorized projection yet?
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:29pm |
re: #192 FemNaziBitch
Restaurant.
Roast. And don’t overdo it. There’s no fat, and damn near no connective tissue in tenderloin, so slow cooking is wasted on it. Or it’s wasted on slow cooking. Something like that.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:40pm |
re: #183 klys
Me too.
Apparently what I really should be plotting is how to steal VB and make her cook for me. I promise I am significantly less likely to read Atlas Shrugged in the bathroom.
Truth be told, I actually cook from scratch 99% of the time (and that even includes pizza with homemade crust and sauce, baked on a bread stone or in a deep dish pizza stone pan).
Tonight’s supper is leftover chicken, mushrooms, broccoli and cranberries, with wild rice.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:41:45pm |
re: #214 FemNaziBitch
“Shoebat”
*snicker*
Isn’t Walid Shoebat the nutjob who claims he was practically like Osama bin Laden’s right-hand man or some bullshit? If that’s the person I’m thinking of, he’s a pathological liar for $$$.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:42:02pm |
re: #207 Dr Lizardo
lolwut?!
“Homosexuality is rooted not in some fabricated condition, but in hatred toward women, that same hated which the devil harbors for the softer gender, for it was a woman-Mary-who gave birth to the Messiah.…
When sodomites dress as women, it is their expressing adversity for both real women and the sacrament of marriage which God Himself established. It the obligation for a religious people to make laws preventing this sort of wickedness, to see to it that this Biblical law is upheld!”
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:42:36pm |
re: #198 Decatur Deb
Fill crock pot with equal parts beer, sausage, sauerkraut, potato. Leave for the day.
This. I like using a good old fashioned ring baloney that way with kraut and mushrooms. The beer goes in the cook, not the crock pot, though.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:43:16pm |
re: #222 Dr Lizardo
Isn’t Walid Shoebat the nutjob who claims he was practically like Osama bin Laden’s right-hand man or some bullshit? If that’s the person I’m thinking of, he’s a pathological liar for $$$.
This is nutball’s equally nutball son.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:44:06pm |
re: #202 EPR-radar
That night really is a never ending source of warm fuzzies. Rove on Fox News and the GOP belief that they would win remain my favorites.
Oh, yes. Rove’s ‘TURN THOSE MACHINES BACK ON!!!’ moment, with Megyn Kelly’s “…or are these just lies you tell yourself as a Republican to make yourself feel better?”
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:44:33pm |
I like the Wal-Mart and AOL ones.
www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-greatest-things-that-could-ever-possibly-happen-to-yo
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:44:34pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
Obama paid them to do that…
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klys Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:44:42pm |
re: #221 Backwoods_Sleuth
Truth be told, I actually cook from scratch 99% of the time (and that even includes pizza with homemade crust and sauce, baked on a bread stone or in a deep dish pizza stone pan).
Tonight’s supper is leftover chicken, mushrooms, broccoli and cranberries, with wild rice.
Now that school and all the travel is done, I’m trying to focus on more home cooking as a way to work on losing some weight. (Hence the cleaning out the fridge and freezer - get the junk out, and make room for the healthy foods. I’ll do the pantry next week, and then a serious stocking trip to the grocery store.)
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:44:44pm |
re: #224 William Barnett-Lewis
This. I like using a good old fashioned ring baloney that way with lraut and mushrooms. The beer goes in the cook, not the crock pot, though.
I’d favor doing with with something like kielbassa (garlicy and smoky) rather than something “plain” like red hots. And I have the kraut and taters on hand right now.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:45:19pm |
re: #223 Kragar
LOL
The homophobic RW’ers yearn to be dressed in lingerie and a gimp mask and mercilessly pummelled by a 6’6” black-leather clad Dom.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:45:45pm |
re: #209 sattv4u2
Yup,, because when you want to remove a despot, nothing better than to shell a nun!!
In the attack on the village of Maaloula, rebels commandeered a mountaintop hotel and nearby caves and shelled the community below, said a nun,
Those nuns can be dangerous. Some have bad habits.
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:45:50pm |
re: #228 Backwoods_Sleuth
Obama paid them to do that…
//
To help cover up IRS, Obamacare, and Benghazi stories.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:45:56pm |
Wife just arrived with unplanned pizza. It’s, like, synchronicity man. BBL
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:45:58pm |
re: #229 klys
Now that school and all the travel is done, I’m trying to focus on more home cooking as a way to work on losing some weight. (Hence the cleaning out the fridge and freezer - get the junk out, and make room for the healthy foods. I’ll do the pantry next week, and then a serious stocking trip to the grocery store.)
My desires to bake or do other cooking ends up with me bringing food into work. And getting yelled at by others about how they’re ruining their diets as they wolf the food down.
;)
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teleskiguy Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:46:01pm |
Why do I get the feeling that these Republicans who are against a military strike in Syria would be all in if the president were Republican?— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) September 4, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:46:41pm |
re: #207 Dr Lizardo
lolwut?!
You know, some things just plain need to be diagnosed by a qualified mental health physician.
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:46:51pm |
re: #203 Killgore Trout
This is bad timing….
Al-Qaida-linked rebels attack village in Syria
The timing is just fine. Nothing wrong with a reminder of the insane difficulty facing any outside intervention as Congress starts voting.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:46:51pm |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
Wife just arrived with unplanned pizza. It’s, like, synchronicity man. BBL
Is an unplaned pizza another name for a calzone?
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:46:55pm |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
Wife just arrived with unplanned pizza. It’s, like, synchronicity man. BBL
Unplanned pizza? Open the box and do a D&C (Divide and Chomp)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:47:36pm |
re: #220 GeneJockey
Roast. And don’t overdo it. There’s no fat, and damn near no connective tissue in tenderloin, so slow cooking is wasted on it. Or it’s wasted on slow cooking. Something like that.
well, slow cooking a tenderloin with a couple cans of beer takes are of the no fat problem.
For realz.
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:47:46pm |
re: #238 FemNaziBitch
You know, some things just plain need to be diagnosed by a qualified mental health physician.
Read my #232; that’s likely the real root of the issue.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:47:50pm |
re: #230 Feline Fearless Leader
I’d favor doing with with something like kielbassa (garlicy and smoky) rather than something “plain” like red hots. And I have the kraut and taters on hand right now.
Damn it, just when I had forgotten about Kielbasa.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:48:05pm |
re: #220 GeneJockey
Roast. And don’t overdo it. There’s no fat, and damn near no connective tissue in tenderloin, so slow cooking is wasted on it. Or it’s wasted on slow cooking. Something like that.
True, but if I slow cook with BBQ sauce I can make pulled pork sandwiches and fries. If I roast, then I will have to go with Augratin potatoes and peas.
Decisions, decisions.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:48:10pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:48:33pm |
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:48:42pm |
re: #232 Dr Lizardo
LOL
The homophobic RW’ers yearn to be dressed in lingerie and a gimp mask and mercilessly pummelled by a 6’6” black-leather clad Dom.
It’s particularly clear with this Shoebat clown. There is a man who is begging for a ride in a sling.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:48:46pm |
re: #224 William Barnett-Lewis
This. I like using a good old fashioned ring baloney that way with lraut and mushrooms. The beer goes in the cook, not the crock pot, though.
That’s why Milwaukee Lite was invented.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:49:00pm |
re: #233 Killgore Trout
Those nuns can be dangerous. Some have bad habits.
I went to RC school. Trust me, don’t mess with a nun. No matter how small, or gray.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:49:27pm |
re: #245 Bubblehead II
True, but if I slow cook with BBQ sauce I can make pulled pork sandwiches and fries. If I roast, then I will have to go with Augratin potatoes and peas.
Decisions, decisions.
mmmmmmm, peas!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:49:29pm |
re: #237 teleskiguy
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As well as the dems who are all for it be against it if the Pres was an “R”!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:49:42pm |
What do you think of this sculpture by artist Marco Cianfanelli, of Johannesburg? pic.twitter.com/aK6qwMOpjA— National Geographic (@NatGeopix) September 4, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:49:53pm |
re: #249 Backwoods_Sleuth
That’s why Milwaukee Lite was invented.
My slow cooker pulled pork recipe specifically includes pouring 1/2 cup of wine into the cook.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:50:16pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:50:32pm |
re: #235 Decatur Deb
Wife just arrived with unplanned pizza. It’s, like, synchronicity man. BBL
heh, it’s a meal plan!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:50:32pm |
re: #254 Feline Fearless Leader
My slow cooker pulled pork recipe specifically includes pouring 1/2 cup of wine into the cook.
per half hour of SLOW cooking time
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:50:45pm |
re: #248 EPR-radar
It’s particularly clear with this Shoebat clown. There is a man who is begging for a ride in a sling.
Definitely. He just needs to proudly fly his freak flag and be done with it.
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:51:27pm |
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:51:39pm |
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:51:43pm |
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:51:45pm |
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:52:50pm |
re: #250 FemNaziBitch
I went to RC school. Trust me, don’t mess with a nun. No matter how small, or gray.
especially if she’s armed with one of those metal edged rulers…
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:53:03pm |
Sorry, I can’t get passed the name.
Shoebat.
“Barking Shoebat?’
“Shoebat, for when you really need to kick something?”
“Shoebat, for the Monty Python World Series of Shoeball.”
“There is going to be a Shoebat-a-thon for charity”
“Shoebat, for when Bat-Shit Crazy is too mild a diagnosis”
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Vicious Babushka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:53:30pm |
Yay! All teh Foods are done!
Except the Tip Roast, that will be done in 40 minutes!
Should I sample the vodka?
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:53:59pm |
re: #245 Bubblehead II
True, but if I slow cook with BBQ sauce I can make pulled pork sandwiches and fries.
Call me a traditionalist, but pulled pork with tenderloin? Save the pulled pork idea till you have a butt roast. Costco sells ‘em 2 to a bag, for cheap.
Tenderloin, I like to marinate and grill. Either a Hoisin Garlic marinade with black bean garlic sauce, or an ale marinade, with garlic, lemon, and worcestershire. Or, hell, dust it liberally with garlic salt and grill it.
If I roast, then I will have to go with Augratin potatoes and peas.
Oh, yeah. That would just suck.
//
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:54:01pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:54:02pm |
Has any of the testimony involved managing the risk of undesirable rebel groups? I assume it’s probably not in the written proposal but does anyone know what the plan is?
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:54:28pm |
re: #266 Vicious Babushka
Yay! All teh Foods are done!
Except the Tip Roast, that will be done in 40 minutes!
Should I sample the vodka?
Did you bring enough for everyone?
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:54:54pm |
re: #266 Vicious Babushka
Yay! All teh Foods are done!
Except the Tip Roast, that will be done in 40 minutes!
Should I sample the vodka?
somebody has to do it…
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:56:48pm |
re: #212 wrenchwench
When should they have attacked?
For those hoping for the resolution to pass it would have been helpful if al Qaeda wasn’t killing Christians until after the house votes. It looks bad in the press.
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ObserverArt Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:56:57pm |
re: #161 freetoken
I do object to the use of adjective “free”, though. It is part of the utopian-left view of nothing every having to cost everything.
A better description is “public-paid”. The public-paid meals are intended to make sure all children have at least one properly nutritious meal a day.
Free sounds American. Public Paid sounds Russian!
/
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:57:51pm |
re: #274 Killgore Trout
For those hoping for the resolution to pass it would have been helpful if al Qaeda wasn’t killing Christians until after the house votes. It looks bad in the press.
Yeah, because stopping Bashir from using chemical weapons is only a win for AQ.
/
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:58:03pm |
re: #274 Killgore Trout
For those hoping for the resolution to pass it would have been helpful if al Qaeda wasn’t killing Christians until after the house votes. It looks bad in the press.
I have $10 here says it won’t be on tonights news!
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:58:18pm |
re: #274 Killgore Trout
For those hoping for the resolution to pass it would have been helpful if al Qaeda wasn’t killing Christians until after the house votes. It looks bad in the press.
If this thing is going to pass, I’d like to see questions like this get visibility and get some credible answers as part of the process of getting it through Congress.
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:58:49pm |
Entire staff quits together.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 1:59:59pm |
re: #276 Kragar
Yeah, because stopping Bashir from using chemical weapons is only a win for AQ.
/
Weakening Assad will strengthen the rebels, I don’t think there’s much of a way around that. I’m wondering what the plan is to avoid strengthening the “wrong” rebel groups who vastly outnumber and outgun the “right” rebels last I checked.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:00:57pm |
re: #274 Killgore Trout
For those hoping for the resolution to pass it would have been helpful if al Qaeda wasn’t killing Christians until after the house votes. It looks bad in the press.
I guess I just missed all the ongoing RW derp before today about how Assad is protecting Christians and how Obama is an evil tyrant letting the scary Muslims kill people.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:01:54pm |
re: #278 EPR-radar
If this thing is going to pass, I’d like to see questions like this get visibility and get some credible answers as part of the process of getting it through Congress.
Me too but it might come under the umbrella of operational details which wouldn’t be made public for obvious reasons. I assume it’s been considered but I don’t know if the details (or even generalities) are publicly known.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:02:05pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:03:02pm |
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Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:03:17pm |
re: #281 Lidane
I guess I just missed all the ongoing RW derp before today about how Assad is protecting Christians and how Obama is an evil tyrant letting the scary Muslims kill people.
There’s a shell shocked nun in Syria who’d like to have a word with you about that.
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palomino Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:03:50pm |
re: #67 Lidane
The “race realists” over at National Racists Online are at it again:
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NRO never had a problem with the southern strategy first used effectively by Nixon, then other Republicans over the years.
This is simply a contemporary journalistic variation on the southern strategy. Call blacks the real racists (Holder! Obama! OMG!), then suggest that they’re dangerous in one way or another (e.g., ruining education), but do it all in a coded way that is slightly less overtly offensive. Then stand back while the base slobbers all over the red meat and gets raging hard-ons. Mission accomplished.
Clearly NRO’s political analysis is aimed at its white conservative audience. They don’t really give a shit about blacks. They don’t even try to engage them.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:04:11pm |
re: #285 Killgore Trout
There’s a shell shocked nun in Syria who’d like to have a word with you about that.
And there are 1400+ corpses that would like to have a word with you about Assad.
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Teukka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:04:43pm |
re: #279 darthstar
Entire staff quits together.
Hmm… I get a 403 - Forbidden on that one.
*scratches head*
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:04:54pm |
re: #287 Lidane
And there are 1400+ corpses that would like to have a word with you about Assad.
KT defended that ,,,, where!?!?!?
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:05:00pm |
re: #284 sattv4u2
Because PBS is calling Assad a protector of Christians and saying that it’s okay to kill and gas all the Muslims like the RWNJs are.
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:05:24pm |
re: #283 FemNaziBitch
“cancer is not an excuse”? That’s all I can read.
re: #288 Teukka
Hmm… I get a 403 - Forbidden on that one.
*scratches head*
Try this link:
beautyexists.net
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:05:32pm |
Exactly how is the situation in Syria a threat to US interests?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:05:46pm |
re: #290 Lidane
Because PBS is calling Assad a protector of Christians and saying that it’s okay to kill and gas all the Muslims like the RWNJs are.
GOALPOSTS,,,, GET YER MOVABLE GOALPOSTS HERE,,,,
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:06:02pm |
re: #283 FemNaziBitch
“cancer is not an excuse”? That’s all I can read.
Dear Jamie
Since you decided to say ‘cancer is not an excuse’ and think it’s ok to swear at your employees like you do ALL the time… WE QUIT.
THIS is why you can’t keep a store manager longer than a year. YOU ABUSE your roll (sic) AND staff.
Enjoy the fact that you lost a store manager, co-manager, and key holder in the middle of Back to School. Think next time you treat people the way you do.
WE AREN’T ALLOWING IT ANY MORE.
Niki, Jess, TJ
Sounds like the boss - ‘Jamie’ - is a colossal douche. I don’t blame them for up and quitting one bit.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:06:14pm |
re: #288 Teukka
Hmm… I get a 403 - Forbidden on that one.
*scratches head*
If you Google “cancer is no excuse” you’ll find multiple references to it. Appears to be something 4-5 days old that has gone viral.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:06:42pm |
re: #283 FemNaziBitch
“Dear Jamie, since you decided to say “Cancer is not an excuse” and think its OK to swear at your employees like you do all the time… WE QUIT.
This is why you can’t keep a store manager longer than a year. YOU ABUSE your roll(sic) and Staff.
Enjoy the fact you lost a store manager, co-manager, and key holder in the middle of Back to School. THINK next time you treat people the way you do.
WE AREN’T ALLOWING IT ANYMORE.
Niki, Jess, TJ”
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Teukka Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:07:08pm |
re: #291 darthstar
Try this link:
beautyexists.net
Still a 403 - for some reason, the entire site 403’s for me.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:07:49pm |
re: #297 Teukka
Still a 403 - for some reason, the entire site 403’s for me.
Call the NSA. They want a word with you!!
//
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:07:53pm |
re: #293 sattv4u2
I’m not the one who moved the goalposts first by bringing up PBS, but okay.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:08:47pm |
re: #299 Lidane
I’m not the one who moved the goalposts first by bringing up PBS, but okay.
Bringing up PBS was in DIRECT response to your “all the ongoing RW derp before today about how Assad is protecting Christians “
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:09:18pm |
re: #282 Killgore Trout
Me too but it might come under the umbrella of operational details which wouldn’t be made public for obvious reasons. I assume it’s been considered but I don’t know if the details (or even generalities) are publicly known.
IMO, the issues are at the top level. If we commit to no regime change and to not tilting the balance in the Syrian civil war, then it pretty much follows that we are debating a slap on the wrist that will be seen as meaningless by all, especially Assad, Iran and Russia.
If we end up with a more substantive response, the top level plan needs to deal credibly with a post-Assad scenario.
For what it is worth, my preference is that if the US goes with air strikes as a response, we go in hard —- take out every available regime target that is clearly military. It is hard to see how that wouldn’t significantly alter the balance of power.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:09:24pm |
re: #292 FemNaziBitch
Exactly how is the situation in Syria a threat to US interests?
The Syrian civil war is serving to draw in terrorist factions, as well as being a major humanitarian crisis. Refugees fleeing the fight and fighters pouring in could easily spread the conflict.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:10:06pm |
re: #303 Kragar
The Syrian civil war is serving to draw in terrorist factions, as well as being a major humanitarian crisis. Refugees fleeing the fight and fighters pouring in could easily spread the conflict.
So, it’s not a direct threat.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:10:54pm |
re: #304 FemNaziBitch
So, it’s not a direct threat.
Not a snark, but it depends on whose definition of “direct threat” you use
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:11:02pm |
re: #292 FemNaziBitch
Exactly how is the situation in Syria a threat to US interests?
AFAIK, the extent of the threat is in allowing the use of chemical weapons in warfare to go unpunished. This would presumably lead to a proliferation of such weapons, in the hands of countries who hitherto have had limited or no arsenals of them, and that would lead to their being used.
If, as the UN and UK votes seem to indicate, pretty much nobody gives a shit anymore - well, alrighty. We now live in a world where chemical weapons are not considered any worse than bombs and bullets, a little less than a century after the International Community banned them as too horrific to allow.
IOW, it’s the place of the International Community to do something, but nobody seems inclined except us and France, and not very many of us, at that.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:11:26pm |
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:11:44pm |
re: #301 sattv4u2
Bringing up PBS was in DIRECT response to your “all the ongoing RW derp before today about how Assad is protecting Christians “
Yeah. Which involved you shifting the goalposts away from the ongoing RWNJ derp about Assad being the righteous protector of Christians in the ME and invoking PBS.
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palomino Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:12:00pm |
re: #252 sattv4u2
Actually the number of Dems supporting action in Syria (under a Dem prez) may be lower than the number of Dems who supported action against Saddam (under Bush the Republican).
Despite the existence of very strong evidence Assad not only has chemical weapons but used them recently (neither of which was true about Saddam.)
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:12:11pm |
re: #306 GeneJockeyAFAIK, the extent of the threat is in allowing the use of chemical weapons in warfare to go unpunished. This would presumably lead to a proliferation of such weapons, in the hands of countries who hitherto have had limited or no arsenals of them, and that would lead to their being used.
If, as the UN and UK votes seem to indicate, pretty much nobody gives a shit anymore - well, alrighty. We now live in a world where chemical weapons are not considered any worse than bombs and bullets, a little less than a century after the International Community banned them as too horrific to allow.
IOW, it’s the place of the International Community to do something, but nobody seems inclined except us and France, and not very many of us, at that.
This I understand, but I think we need UN involvement.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:13:12pm |
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:13:34pm |
re: #306 GeneJockey
but nobody seems inclined except us and France,
And at that, France is having second thoughts
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:13:48pm |
re: #305 sattv4u2
Not a snark, but it depends on whose definition of “direct threat” you use
The Taliban wasn’t a direct threat when they took control of Afghanistan in ‘96.
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:14:24pm |
re: #309 palomino
Actually the number of Dems supporting action in Syria (under a Dem prez) may be lower than the number of Dems who supported action against Saddam (under Bush the Republican).
Despite the existence of very strong evidence Assad not only has chemical weapons but used them recently (neither of which was true about Saddam.)
The Iraq debacle has certainly energized the anti-war sentiment in the Democratic party. The Obama Administration needs to make a good case at least to keep the Democrats (mostly) in line.
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:14:39pm |
The IDiots had a conference in which they discussed with teachers, including public school teachers, on how to insert religion into their teaching and schools.
Evangelical magazine World reports (approvingly):
Peeking outside the Darwin cage
To protect the identities of some attendees, WORLD agreed to use pseudonyms (designated with an asterisk).
DAVID BROWN*
David Brown,* a public school physics teacher in his 30s, doesn’t like to simply follow the rules, especially when it comes to science and evolution: “When the culture tells me I’m not allowed to think outside the Darwinian box, it makes me want to think outside the Darwinian box.”[…]
PHOEBE JOHNSON*
While the Texas Board of Education changed the wording of its science curriculum in 2009 to make room for teaching alternatives to evolution, the school district where Phoebe Johnson* teaches took a hardline stance: Darwinism is true; everything else is wrong. Johnson, a high school biology teacher, soon started to feel the heat. Although her classroom curriculum only required a summary of evolution, Johnson was also part of the school’s Christian club, where she held a talk about how science and religion can coexist.“I think I have a middle-of-the-road approach to it,” Johnson said. “One thing about the ID movement is that the people involved are really doing a good job being objective and trying really hard not to get wrapped up in politics or religion but looking at it for what it is.” [*cough*]
[…]
LORI MCKEEMAN
The Potter’s School is an online Christian school popular among homeschoolers and missionary and military families. The lead science teacher, Lori McKeeman, 58, has been teaching students about intelligent design and the Bible for seven years. She traveled from her home in Pensacola, Fla., to the Discovery Institute’s seminar to learn the latest ideas from intelligent design scientists. “With science, you have to continue professional development,” she said. McKeeman and another Potter’s teacher are considering using the Discovery Institute’s new private school science curriculum, Discovering Intelligent Design.[…]
At its heart, “Intelligent Design” is really about bringing in sectarian religious beliefs into public schools.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:15:09pm |
re: #312 Kragar
Not yet.
So far, I don’t see it. I think the one’s who want war are the ones who will somehow profit from it. I find it strange the push to go to Syria is happening as we are trying to wind down Iraq and Afghanistan —cash cows that are not being milked.
In my perfect world, we could right all the humanitarian wrongs. I’d like to see us address seriously the ones happening in this country before we tell other’s how to live their lives.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:15:33pm |
re: #310 FemNaziBitch
This I understand, but I think we need UN involvement.
We ain’t gonna get it, because Russia will veto in the Security Council. So the question becomes, if it was important enough to do with UN involvement, is it important enough to do without it?
Any course of action, including inaction, has consequences that one must accept. Even those who are in favor generally agree there are no good options.
Basically, the whole situation sucks. Badly.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:16:59pm |
re: #308 Lidane
Yeah. Which involved you shifting the goalposts away from the ongoing RWNJ derp about Assad being the righteous protector of Christians in the ME and invoking PBS.
The PBS article cites the idea of British “divide and conquer.”
Because that’s totally the same as protection.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:17:11pm |
re: #318 GeneJockey
Basically, the whole situation sucks. Badly.
Yeah, this. The whole situation sucks. We can’t sit by and do nothing, but anything we do is going to cause an even bigger shitstorm than the one going on now.
I would hate to have to make these decisions.
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:17:53pm |
re: #316 freetoken
By now, I’m convinced that one of the main reasons creationism/ID has embedded itself so deeply into US movement conservatism is that the kind of big lies needed to support teaching creationism/ID as science in schools are precisely the kind of big lies the GOP finds indispensable for supporting all other elements of its agenda.
I.e., it is world class training for liars.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:18:17pm |
re: #320 Lidane
Yeah, this. The whole situation sucks. We can’t sit by and do nothing, but anything we do is going to cause an even bigger shitstorm than the one going on now.
I would hate to have to make these decisions.
Anything we do will keep the military-industrial complex in business.
I can’t see any other US “interest” being served.
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NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:19:02pm |
Here is the White House’s statement on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee’s passage of an AUMF for Syria pic.twitter.com/b1UNtTXwOI— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) September 4, 2013
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piratedan Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:19:35pm |
re: #318 GeneJockey
well part of it is, bring it up for discussion and make them use that veto…. one other thing that isn’t being discussed very much is how easily the conflict could spread/escalate…. refugees spilling into Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey and then they’re having to feed/police/watch over millions of new displaced people, without any discussion from the UN, how are they going to crank up the aid machine? Not easy for those governments to have to deal with all of this while Syria is imploding….
Plus, while you have all of this islamic sectarian violence going on, what happens if someone just happens to do something to bring the Israelis in….
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:20:16pm |
I don’t see anyone shouting “WOOHOO! LETS GO KICK SOME ASS!”
I see people who are serious about this asking “What can we do to help?”, while others are saying “Fuck ‘em” or giving in to disaster fatigue.
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:20:26pm |
re: #321 EPR-radar
One thing to keep in mind, is that a great number of colonial Americans and nineteenth century Americans were hyper-religious. It’s a part of our history about which the secular schools have for the most part tip-toed around the edges.
The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:20:32pm |
Ohio earthquakes around Youngstown directly blamed on deep waste water injection into a well. It’s a method for “disposing” of leftover fluid from fracking operations.
And the article states that one of the issues is that the deep fault connections are not known and thus a pressure wave from high pressure injection can trigger quakes along a fault line.
Unstated is that the same faults and breaks can provide connections between the deep strata and shallow strata and thus allow contaminants being “disposed” to potentially migrate upward and eventually contaminate shallow water-containing strata that we otherwise deem safe. Which is one of the long term risks of the whole fracking enterprise in regards to waste water* disposal.
* - And some of the contaminants in the waste water are actually picked up via the shales the water was pumped into and out of. Radon for instance.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:21:17pm |
re: #322 FemNaziBitch
Anything we do will keep the military-industrial complex in business.
I can’t see any other US “interest” being served.
It’s a consequence of spending more than the next dozen or so countries combined on our military. Eventually, you’re going to have to find a reason to use all that firepower.
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The Ghost of a Flea Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:21:17pm |
Guy Shouting at Anthony Weiner was Upset He Married an Arab
Anthony Weiner’s mayoral campaign just posted a longer video of the candidate’s shouting match with a Jewish voter in Borough Park, Brooklyn on Wednesday morning. Beginning around 3:46, the same man depicted arguing with Weiner in the earlier video says, “You’re a real scumbag” and later adds, “You’re married to an Arab,” referring to Weiner’s wife, Huma Abedin. Within moments the men begin shouting at each other over the voter’s insult.
This significantly alters the context of the earlier video, which seemed to be about the Jewish voter’s issue with Weiner campaigning despite his serial sexting.
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:21:32pm |
Twitter coming back online was delayed by all the people trying to tweet that Twitter was down.— Fishgrease (@Fishbooom) September 4, 2013
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:22:10pm |
re: #280 Killgore Trout
Weakening Assad will strengthen the rebels, I don’t think there’s much of a way around that. I’m wondering what the plan is to avoid strengthening the “wrong” rebel groups who vastly outnumber and outgun the “right” rebels last I checked.
When was the last time you checked? Can you provide a source?
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:22:37pm |
re: #316 freetoken
“When the culture tells me I’m not allowed to think outside the Darwinian box, it makes me want to think outside the Darwinian box.”
GO AHEAD!!! Knock yourself out! Think outside the ‘Darwinian Box’! Just make sure that whatever you come up with does a BETTER job of accounting for ALL the data in biology, geology, and cosmology so far revealed, AND all the data yet to come.
“One thing about the ID movement is that the people involved are really doing a good job being objective and trying really hard not to get wrapped up in politics or religion but looking at it for what it is.”
Yeah, except that it’s an untestable proposition, and pretty much every example they’ve ever come up with has been shot down, and the only reason anyone proposes it is as an endrun around the 1st Amendment.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:22:59pm |
re: #328 Lidane
It’s a consequence of spending more than the next dozen or so countries combined on our military. Eventually, you’re going to have to find a reason to use all that firepower.
So it’s a matter, of “We’ve got big Toys and we really want to use them”
??
Why doesn’t anyone else want to play?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:23:04pm |
re: #308 Lidane
Again, your statement was before today about how Assad is protecting Christians
The PBS article was (wait for it) BEFORE TODAY, explaining the mechanization’s of why Assad would protect Christians
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:23:27pm |
re: #331 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
When was the last time you checked? Can you provide a source?
80-90% of Syrian rebels are al Qaeda. If we bomb Assad, we will simply be serving as al Qaeda's Air Force. It's madness.— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 4, 2013
/SNORT
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:23:36pm |
re: #334 sattv4u2
Again, your statement was before today about how Assad is protecting Christians
The PBS article was (wait for it) BEFORE TODAY, explaining the mechanization’s of why Assad would protect Christians
How can anyone protect anyone in chaos?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:24:17pm |
re: #330 darthstar
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Heaven forbid, I wouldn’t know what Aunt Ginny had at Starbucks!!
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wrenchwench Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:24:55pm |
re: #334 sattv4u2
Again, your statement was before today about how Assad is protecting Christians
The PBS article was (wait for it) BEFORE TODAY, explaining the mechanization’s of why Assad would protect Christians
It was a blog post, not a PBS article.
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Kragar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:25:10pm |
re: #336 FemNaziBitch
How can anyone protect anyone in chaos?
Fighting to protect them is usually a good start. Bashir sure as fuck isn’t.
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Lidane Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:26:07pm |
re: #334 sattv4u2
And that one article negates all the RWNJ derp we’ve been seeing in support of Assad how, exactly?
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:26:21pm |
re: #336 FemNaziBitch
How can anyone protect anyone in chaos?
Depends. Unlike Egypt where the military wasn’t loyal to Mubarak nor Morsi, but more to Egypt, yes. Assad has the military firmly in his control (at least until the bombs drop) so again, yes, he could protect one group from another using that resource
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Gus Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:26:37pm |
I'm glad we are having this debate about War in Syria & I'm thankful for Soldiers like this. #IdidntJoin pic.twitter.com/xYO84xLIty— S Caruso (@scaruso5555) September 4, 2013
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EPR-radar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:26:56pm |
re: #326 freetoken
One thing to keep in mind, is that a great number of colonial Americans and nineteenth century Americans were hyper-religious. It’s a part of our history about which the secular schools have for the most part tip-toed around the edges.
The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.
I’m well aware of the unfortunate puritan legacy in the US. However, there remains a big difference between being religious, or even hyper religious, and supporting the lying agenda of teaching creationism/ID as science in schools .
I honestly have no beef with the young earth creationist that simply asserts that God created everything 6000 years ago and made it look much older. Among other things, that is a logically unassailable position.
I also have no beef with teaching this in Sunday school or in church services.
The problems start when lies are systematically deployed in support of the false proposition that empirical evidence (i.e., science) leads to creationist/ID conclusions.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:27:24pm |
re: #340 Lidane
And that one article negates all the RWNJ derp we’ve been seeing in support of Assad how, exactly?
I said that ,, where!?!?!
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darthstar Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:27:26pm |
McCain, Boehner, McConnell as “undocumented Democrats,” at today's Tea Party event in Richmond pic.twitter.com/P6Ruxa7o9O— americasvoice (@americasvoice) September 4, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:27:41pm |
Kid has been out in the garage cleaning my car for over an hour.
Maybe his Dad is paying him …
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blueraven Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:27:52pm |
re: #188 Bubblehead II
Tonights dinner decision. Pork Tenderloin. To roast or slow cook?
I would roast it. I slow cook pork butts for pulled pork and such, but roast a leaner cut like tenderloin.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:28:51pm |
re: #343 EPR-radar
I’m well aware of the unfortunate puritan legacy in the US. However, there remains a big difference between being religious, or even hyper religious, and supporting the lying agenda of teaching creationism/ID as science in schools .
I honestly have no beef with the young earth creationist that simply asserts that God created everything 6000 years ago and made it look much older. Among other things, that is a logically unassailable position.
I also have no beef with teaching this in Sunday school or in church services.
The problems start when lies are systematically deployed in support of the false proposition that empirical evidence (i.e., science) leads to creationist/ID conclusions.
It’s a matter of Power and Control. The God Peddlers like their income.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:29:03pm |
re: #345 darthstar
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Jesus, they’re so far around the bend you can’t even see the bend from where they are.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:29:28pm |
re: #346 FemNaziBitch
Kid has been out in the garage cleaning my car for over an hour.
When he comes in for a pee break, before he goes back out there swap the car with another!!!
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A Mom Anon Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:29:29pm |
re: #342 Gus
Now that is awesome. About the only awesome thing I’ve seen related to this crazy ass shit all day.
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:31:26pm |
McCain just can’t stay out of the limelight can he?
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:33:16pm |
re: #343 EPR-radar
I’m well aware of the unfortunate puritan legacy in the US. However, there remains a big difference between being religious, or even hyper religious, and supporting the lying agenda of teaching creationism/ID as science in schools .
I honestly have no beef with the young earth creationist that simply asserts that God created everything 6000 years ago and made it look much older. Among other things, that is a logically unassailable position.
Yeah, but you also can’t prove that the universe wasn’t created just a few minutes back, as a going concern. I call it the “God as Collosal Jokester” belief.
I also have no beef with teaching this in Sunday school or in church services.
The problems start when lies are systematically deployed in support of the false proposition that empirical evidence (i.e., science) leads to creationist/ID conclusions.
That’s the key difference. You have no problem with them believing their superstition. They have a REALLY, REALLY BIG problem with you NOT believing it.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:33:33pm |
re: #345 darthstar
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Just another example of how crazy the R party has become.
Well, they let it happen…
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:35:25pm |
Speaking of the hyper-religious and their failed worldview in light of science, Denny Burke, one of Mullah Mohler’s bulldogs at his seminary, writes on his blog:
Okay to change a child’s sex but not his gender?
James Kushiner asks an insightful question that exposes the moral confusion of our day. In essence he asks why it should be legal to change a child’s sex but not his gender.
The question is provoked by the recent bill signed into law by New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. The law prohibits any attempt to change a child’s “gender expression.” […]
This inconsistency testifies to a much deeper spiritual rot. It exposes what has always been at the heart of the sexual revolution. The Creator’s purposes for male and female must give way to the creature’s autonomous will (Gen. 1:27; Matt. 19:4). If a guy feels like he’s a girl, then he is one even if his biology says otherwise. The Creator’s distinction between male and female must bend to accommodate the sovereign will of the creature. Thus changing the body is better than changing the mind.
[…]
Burke’s argument will only make sense to those who are presuppositionally set in his camp. But that is not the issue I want to raise here.
Rather, it is Burke’s statement ” the Creator’s distinction between male and female …” is based on a demonstrably false notion of “distinction between male and female.”
This week I came across the following new discovery about the Y chromosome:
Boy interrupted: Y-chromosome mutations reveal precariousness of male development
The idea that men and women are fundamentally different from each other is widely accepted. And throughout the world, this has created distinct ideas about which social and physical characteristics are necessary in each gender to maintain healthy human development.
However, social revolutions throughout the last century have challenged traditional ideas about not only which traits are normal and necessary for survival, but also how humans acquire them. Thanks to a new study from researchers at Case Western Reserve University, science is continuing the charge.By studying rare families in which a daughter shares the same Y chromosome as her father, Michael Weiss, MD, PhD, and his colleagues at the university’s School of Medicine have determined that the pathway for male sexual development is not as consistent and robust as scientists have always assumed. [And which Burke asserts is absolutely God-given true.]
A team led by Weiss, chairman of the Department of Biochemistry, the Cowan-Blum Professor of Cancer Research, and a professor of biochemistry and medicine, has published a study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that examines the function of the SRY gene. This gene is responsible for initiating the process that leads to male development.
[…]
In fetal development, a gene located on the Y chromosome, called SRY, begins the process that leads to male development. All fetuses initially develop with female tissues, no matter what the sex will be at birth, so the master switch is responsible for initiating the transformation of female tissues into male tissues. From there, the testes develop and produce testosterone, which eventually forms the male’s external genitalia.
The university’s study employs mutated SRY genes shared by a father and a sterile XY daughter. Females usually develop with an XX pair, but, in these families, the father instead produced a daughter with an XY pair. This occurs during fetal development when the SRY gene’s master switch fails to trigger. Internal female tissues, such as the uterus and fallopian tubes, continue to develop but are dysfunctional and infertile.
“Yet the father has the same Y chromosome and the same mutation as the daughter,” Weiss pointed out. “And since he is a fertile male, we know that the switch must be poised right at its edge.”
[…]
To summarize the finding, the sex differentiation region of the Y chromosome “turns on” neither reliably nor identically in all carriers of the Y chromosome.
What this means is that males are indeed different in their “maleness”, and this is a function of molecular processes.
The creationists, like Burke, refuse to accept what has been demonstrated throughout the last couple of centuries.
They simply refuse to accept reality.
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:35:34pm |
re: #354 Justanotherhuman
Just another example of how crazy the R party has become.
Well, they let it happen…
She sailed away on a sunny summer day
On the back of a crocodile
“You see,” said she, “he’s as tame as tame can be,
I’ll ride him down the Nile.”
The croc winked his eye as she bade them all goodbye
Wearing a happy smile
At the end of the ride, the lady was inside,
And the smile was on the crocodile!
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freetoken Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:36:50pm |
re: #343 EPR-radar
It wasn’t just the Puritans. Indeed, it mostly wasn’t the Puritans, but the Great Awakening and the second movement of the same name.
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palomino Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:37:40pm |
re: #345 darthstar
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That’s a 2-for-1 slam of RINOs by the TP. First, McCain, McConnnell and Boehner are all pro-immigration reform (to one degree or another), so they’re undocumented. Fucking hahaha (at least in TP minds).
Second, they occasionally support the demon Dem in the WH—at least on foreign policy—so they’re closet Democrats too. Again fucking hilarious to a tea partier.
This is the major malfunction of the TP: the “you’re with us or against us” approach to government. Refusing to compromise is somehow a virtue to these people, who seem unaware that we live in a huge, highly diverse pluralistic democracy.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:40:19pm |
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Gus Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:43:44pm |
Kerry: “Syria's chem weapons threaten security of middle east.” Israel's nukes, however, do not. #Syria— Rania Khalek (@RaniaKhalek) September 4, 2013
Derp.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:44:24pm |
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GeneJockey Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:44:57pm |
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FemNaziBitch Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:45:50pm |
re: #361 CuriousLurker
Ignorant bigot. She’s not even an Arab.
My maid-of-honor was/is an Arab-American.
I guess he’d yell at me too.
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Gus Wed, Sep 4, 2013 2:47:19pm |
re: #362 GeneJockey
I must have missed when Israel nuked their own citizens.
.@RaniaKhalek @BethSteegs Right. Same thing.— Gus (@Gus_802) September 4, 2013
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Sep 4, 2013 3:00:45pm |
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ProTARDISLiberal Wed, Sep 4, 2013 3:02:37pm |
re: #364 Gus
At the same time, I feel uncomfortable with Israel’s nukes too.
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RealityBasedSteve Wed, Sep 4, 2013 6:00:21pm |
I’ve already seen some RWNJs starting to float the meme that since Syria isn’t a signatory to the Chemical Weapons Convention, it’s perfectly legal for them to use Chemical Weapons within their own borders.
Question for the Lizards, who among you a year ago would think that the RWNJs would be supporting Putin and Assad as Leaders who should be supported?
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