John McCain vs. Angry Wingnuts Who Are Suddenly Anti-War

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John McCain was raked over the coals by his own constituents in Arizona yesterday, for his support of military intervention in Syria.

Witness the amazing phenomenon of Republicans opposed to military action:

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McCain, one of the most vocal proponents for military action in Syria, was berated at two events held in Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz. In Phoenix, McCain was shouted down angrily by a man.

“You don’t respect our view,” the man yelled. “We didn’t send you to get war for us! We sent you to stop the war!”

“What you’re doing, sir, is not just disrespectful to me but you’re disrespectful to others who would like their opinion and their views heard,” McCain told the man.

A woman there urged McCain to search for a diplomatic solution in Syria, telling the senator that “we cannot afford to shed more Syrian blood.” The woman’s mention of the word “diplomacy” prompted McCain to raise his eyebrows. At one point during the Phoenix event, a man stood next to McCain while holding a sign that read, “Don’t Bomb Syria!!!”

These confrontations clearly unnerved McCain, so much that he felt compelled to mollify the angry wingnut contingent with some impeachment talk.

Sen. John McCain warns President Barack Obama could face impeachment if he decides to put “boots on the ground” in Syria.

The Republican Arizona senator made the comments to KFYI Thursday following a spirited town hall in Phoenix that focused on Syria.

“The fact is [Syrian President] Bashar Assad has massacred 100,000 people. The conflict is spreading … The Russians are all in, the Iranians are all in, and it’s an unfair fight,” McCain told KFYI’s Mike Broomhead. “And no one wants American boots on the ground. Nor will there be American boots on the ground because there would be an impeachment of the president if they did that.”

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274 comments
1 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:12:19am

Thank you for your service.

Fucker.

2 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:13:37am

Anything to make more time for video poker.

3 b.d.  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:14:15am

Another day to thank the good lord above for not letting John McCain become president.

4 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:15:22am

Current scorecard…

Where the votes stand on Syria

…Below are our whip counts for both the House and Senate, based on public statements made by each member. The graphic includes all 100 senators and will include all House members once they weigh in publicly.

The resolution would fail if 217 (out of 433) House members vote against it or if 40 senators join to filibuster against it.

5 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:16:17am

re: #3 b.d.

Another day to thank the good lord above for not letting John McCain become president.

Yeah no kidding.

6 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:17:57am

Boehner To Obama: Syria Is On You

Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) office reiterated Friday that it’s President Obama’s responsibility to sway the public on the need to strike Syria and warned that lawmakers will represent their constituents.

“The speaker has consistently said the president has an obligation to make his case for intervention directly to the American people,” said Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck. “Members of Congress represent the views of their constituents, and only a president can convince the public that military action is required. We only hope this isn’t coming too late to make the difference.”

7 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:18:47am

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Current scorecard…

Where the votes stand on Syria

Where is Nate Silver? Bring me my 538!!

8 thecommodore  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:18:49am

10 years ago, these same wingnuts said anyone who didn’t support the Iraq War didn’t support the troops, because you can’t support one without the other.

Following the same logic, I have one thing to say to Sen. McCain:

Love it or leave it.

///

9 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:19:01am

Ed Harris was a much better John McCain that this guy.

10 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:19:04am

Doesn’t McCain want boots on the ground?

11 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:19:48am

re: #9 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Ed Harris was a much better John McCain that this guy.

Yeah Ed Harris’s McCain was likable. This guy has never met a war he hasn’t liked.

12 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:20:29am

re: #10 darthstar

Doesn’t McCain want boots on the ground?

John Wednesday McCain or John Friday McCain?

13 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:20:49am

front page article in the New York Fucking Times today highlighting the views of one American “patriot” who thought the invasion of Iraq ten years ago to uproot Saddam was justified because he was gassing his own people, but a much more limited attack against Syria on the same basis is suddenly, for some reason, anathema.

nytimes.com

14 thecommodore  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:21:02am

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Yeah Ed Harris’s McCain was likable. This guy has never met a war he hasn’t liked.

The McCain of 2000 was actually likeable. Now he’s just a cranky old Bush clone.

15 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:21:19am

re: #10 darthstar

Doesn’t McCain want boots on the ground?

Yes but shut up.//

16 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:21:22am

No country for old men.

17 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:21:31am

re: #14 thecommodore

The McCain of 2000 was actually likeable. Now he’s just a cranky old Bush clone.

I actually think he’s at this present moment worse than Bush was.

18 freetoken  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:23:29am

re: #6 Kragar

Boehner To Obama: Syria Is On You

Boehner didn’t fall off the turnip truck just yesterday. He knows that he can extract every last drop of concession from the President on such a close vote.

19 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:23:56am

It’s simple. Obama is for it, they are against it.

20 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:24:43am

re: #19 nines09

It’s simple. Obama is for it, they are against it.

Obama: Air is good. Republicans’ response, air is a socialist scheme.

21 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:24:46am

This is a one word comment in response to the Syria conflict.

22 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:26:57am

re: #6 Kragar

Boehner To Obama: Syria Is On You

I bet Obama never gets elected again.

23 thecommodore  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:27:57am

re: #19 nines09

It’s simple. Obama is for it, they are against it.

Obama could call for a flat tax, privatizing Social Security, the Ryan Plan for Medicare, a national right to work law, massive military spending increases, an invasion of Iran, Putin-like anti-gay laws on a national level, and he could order gays banned from the military by executive order…essentially become Ronald Reagan on steroids, and the Republicans would still call him a socialist.

24 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:28:05am

re: #22 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Yup. This will doom him.

25 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:28:47am

re: #20 HappyWarrior

Obama: Air is good. Republicans’ response, air is a socialist scheme.

It’s so transparent I sometimes think I’m hallucinating.

26 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:29:29am

re: #23 thecommodore

Obama could call for a flat tax, privatizing Social Security, the Ryan Plan for Medicare, a national right to work law, massive military spending increases, an invasion of Iran, Putin-like anti-gay laws on a national level, and he could order gays banned from the military by executive order…essentially become Ronald Reagan on steroids, and the Republicans would still call him a socialist.

If a tack gives you a flat tire is that tack a member of flat tax?

27 Dr. Matt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:29:57am

The wing-nuts that are suddenly “anti-war” are only anti-war for one reason: The Black Man in the White House.

28 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:30:13am

re: #25 nines09

It’s so transparent I sometimes think I’m hallucinating.

At some point it will be so transparent that 70 percent of Americans will see through it. Not there yet.

29 ObserverArt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:30:33am

Well, the door is open for the Great Sarah Palin to blurt out one of her famous word salads and take some jabs at McCain.

Come on Sarah, you know you want to.

It’d be good TV.

30 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:31:03am

If it wasn’t so sad it would almost be funny.

This is exactly what Obama wanted to happen.

It’s amazing to see the right wing really, REALLY show their true colors. They really do hate anything and everything Obama supports. I guarantee if Barack Obama came out and said tomorrow he was in favor of immediate drilling all over the U.S. coast, the wingnuts would get pissed off over it.

Like I said, if it wasn’t so sad and stupid, it would be pretty funny.

But we’re talking about a serious situation here with MILLIONS of lives hanging in the balance and all they care about is opposing Obama.

31 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:31:25am

If you die in a tree shredder do you become a ghost in the machine?

32 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:32:15am

re: #31 b_sharp

If you die in a tree shredder do you become a ghost in the machine?

No. Compost.

33 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:32:53am

It’s pretty clear that no one wants to be the poor bastard who “Throws the switch” because they will become the primary recipient of the blame when the situation turns bad (and more than likely it WILL turn bad). It’s all about protection their precious reputations and re-election campaigns.

34 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:33:22am

re: #31 b_sharp

If you die in a tree shredder do you become a ghost in the machine?

No I think you need to upload your consciousness into a computer to do that.

35 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:33:47am

re: #32 Kragar

No. Compost.

I’ve been composting comments all day.

36 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:34:37am

re: #34 Eclectic Cyborg

No I think you need to upload your consciousness into a computer to do that.

I tried that but the CPU fan yanked out my hair.

37 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:34:41am

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s pretty clear that no one wants to be the poor bastard who “Throws the switch” because they will become the primary recipient of the blame when the situation turns bad (and more than likely it WILL turn bad). It’s all about protection their precious reputations and re-election campaigns.


“The only way to win is not to play.”

38 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:35:52am

Ever had a head cold that makes the inside of your ears itchy?

39 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:36:17am

re: #38 b_sharp

Ever had a head cold that makes the inside of your ears itchy?

Yes. Yes, I have.

40 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:36:44am

re: #37 Decatur Deb


“The only way to win is not to play.”

“Hello, is this President Assad? Yeah, I’ve decided I don’t want to be gassed to death in my home today. No, thanks for the offer, but I’ll pass this time. No, no, thank you.”

That should solve that pesky little problem.

41 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:37:33am

Ever visited an alternative reality while watching an 8Mb file download at 7Kb/s?

42 ObserverArt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:37:35am

re: #33 Eclectic Cyborg

It’s pretty clear that no one wants to be the poor bastard who “Throws the switch” because they will become the primary recipient of the blame when the situation turns bad (and more than likely it WILL turn bad). It’s all about protection their precious reputations and re-election campaigns.

I made a mention in an earlier post that so far the sessions on Syria were congressional and presidential runs.

43 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:38:22am

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

Yes. Yes, I have.

I keep asking my wife if my eyes are crossed.

44 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:39:48am

re: #38 b_sharp

Ever had a head cold that makes the inside of your ears itchy?

Yes and yes. It’s your sinus system and you may be setting up a doozy of an infection.

45 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:40:32am

re: #40 Kragar

“Hello, is this President Assad? Yeah, I’ve decided I don’t want to be gassed to death in my home today. No, thanks for the offer, but I’ll pass this time. No, no, thank you.”

That should solve that pesky little problem.

So get a few million lightly armed well-intentioned Syrians to join you in front of the Dictatorial Palace and all’s good. The right of a people to choose their leaders has a hidden corollary—the obligation of a people to choose their leaders or STFU.

46 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:41:11am

re: #44 nines09

Yes and yes. It’s your sinus system and you may be setting up a doozy of an infection.

Great. I’ve been wanting a doozy of an infection for months.

47 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:42:20am

re: #46 b_sharp
It’s back to school time where everyone shares.

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:42:26am

re: #44 nines09

Yes and yes. It’s your sinus system and you may be setting up a doozy of an infection.

I’m familiar with those in the fall. When Lord Ragweed appears and sets up shop in my head until the first hard frost.

49 thecommodore  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:42:59am

re: #26 b_sharp

If a tack gives you a flat tire is that tack a member of flat tax?

You’re here all week, yes?

50 blueraven  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:43:29am

re: #4 NJDhockeyfan

Current scorecard…

Where the votes stand on Syria

They are full of it. The no’s will be more vocal. The house has yet to see the classified info.

Nobody knows what the count will be. Just selling news.

51 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:43:48am

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader

The Fall is usually the worst for me, although this year it has been rather mild. Still taking my Claritan D anyway.

52 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:44:34am

Well, it now appears that the Republican/conservative desire to fucking murder every Muslim they see is no match for the Republican/conservative desire to fuck over Obama at every opportunity.

Impeachment. Unreal. If Obama were white, there’d be zero talk of impeachment. Absolutely none.

To anyone reading this who keeps supporting the current GOP: you’re as much at fault for this insanity as the American Taliban you vote for. Thanks for fucking up the country.

53 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:45:04am

re: #47 nines09

It’s back to school time where everyone shares.

I’m a grandpa. I yell at kids to get off my lawn. I don’t share with kids.

54 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:45:31am

re: #49 thecommodore

You’re here all week, yes?

Have you tried the fish tacos?

55 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:46:55am

You’d think wingnuts would be all in favor of destroying Assad’s verified-to-exist chemical weapons stockpile, specifically because according to them the rebels are “90% al Qaeda”. It’s not as though all the nice shiny Russian-built Syrian weaponry becomes unusuable if the Assad government collapses.

56 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:47:23am

I finished building Mrs. B_sharp’s apple squeezer yesterday morning and was feeling sick no more than an hour later.

Coincidence?

57 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:47:59am
58 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:48:38am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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And they say white monkeys can’t jump.

59 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:48:40am

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader
I used to get absolutely hammered for weeks because I had either a congenital or injury related “crook” in my sinus that would not allow proper drainage. Up until I had surgery to fix it I would get punchy, dizzy and miserable for weeks. 7 to 10 days of antibiotics did nothing. You need 3 to 4 WEEKS of them. Try floating that past your doctor, unless he’s tuned in. Mine wasn’t. Have fun./

60 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:48:50am
61 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:48:51am

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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Love the 50s Doo-Wop bands.

62 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:49:37am

re: #53 b_sharp

I’m a grandpa. I yell at kids to get off my lawn. I don’t share with kids.

I’m 23. I just happen to be trapped in this body.

63 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:49:48am

re: #61 Decatur Deb

I think that’s Reuben and the Jets.

64 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:50:04am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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Those are some big sharks.

65 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:50:15am
66 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:50:32am

re: #60 Charles Johnson

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I thought planking was supposed to be on your stomach.

67 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:50:40am

re: #59 nines09

I used to get absolutely hammered for weeks because I had either a congenital or injury related “crook” in my sinus that would not allow proper drainage. Up until I had surgery to fix it I would get punchy, dizzy and miserable for weeks. 7 to 10 days of antibiotics did nothing. You need 3 to 4 WEEKS of them. Try floating that past your doctor, unless he’s tuned in. Mine wasn’t. Have fun./

I have a partially obstructed upper sinus as well. Broken nose or equivalent in my youth. Guess I should look into getting it fixed, though last time I did the insurance quailed and claimed that nose surgery was “cosmetic” and would not cover it.

68 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:51:48am

re: #62 nines09

I’m 23. I just happen to be trapped in this body.

My inner 17 year old gets exposed way too often.

69 Dr. Matt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:52:04am

re: #64 b_sharp

Those are some big sharks.

You’re going to need a bigger boat

Youtube Video

70 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:52:18am

re: #64 b_sharp

Those are some big sharks.

I think they are gonna need a bigger boat.

71 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:52:20am

re: #63 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think that’s Reuben and the Jets.

Had to Google Image it. Are they FZ?

72 Dr. Matt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:53:06am

re: #70 NJDhockeyfan

I think they are gonna need a bigger boat.

I beat you by 18 seconds. I win.

73 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:53:11am

re: #67 Feline Fearless Leader

I have a partially obstructed upper sinus as well. Broken nose or equivalent in my youth. Guess I should look into getting it fixed, though last time I did the insurance quailed and claimed that nose surgery was “cosmetic” and would not cover it.

I have a deviated septum too.

74 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:54:47am
75 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:55:08am

re: #72 Dr. Matt

I beat you by 18 seconds. I win.

Here’s your cookie.
Image: cookies.jpg

76 CuriousLurker  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:55:57am

re: #13 Bulworth

front page article in the New York Fucking Times today highlighting the views of one American “patriot” who thought the invasion of Iraq ten years ago to uproot Saddam was justified because he was gassing his own people, but a much more limited attack against Syria on the same basis is suddenly, for some reason, anathema.

nytimes.com

The last paragraph from that article:

“It’s going to be a ‘Red Dawn’ situation,” Ms. Dulaney said, referring to a film about a Russian takeover of the United States. “You see that movie? They’re going to come over here, on boats, on planes, and take over. Who’s going to defend us? We’re sending them all overseas.”

Red Dawn. A frickin’ grown woman. I just… *headdesk*

77 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:55:59am

re: #74 Charles Johnson

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What has science done?!

78 nines09  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:57:12am

re: #67 Feline Fearless Leader
That surgery was one of the best things I had done as far as living better is concerned. If it is internal it is not cosmetic. Get an MRI or CAT scan. I had that crook along with a deviated septum. I am a thousand times better. I should have had it done 20 years sooner. The older you get the worse it is. Good luck.

79 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:57:47am

re: #76 CuriousLurker

She didn’t get the memo. Russia is now the bastion of Freedom. //

80 Dr. Matt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:58:13am

re: #75 b_sharp

Here’s your cookie.
Image: cookies.jpg

That looks very good right about now. It’s happy hour somewhere…..Greenland???

81 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:58:56am

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Had to Google Image it. Are they FZ?

[pedantic]The Mothers of Invention[/pedantic]

82 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 11:59:13am

re: #76 CuriousLurker

The last paragraph from that article:

Red Dawn. A frickin’ grown woman. I just… *headdesk*

It absolutely scares the shit out of me that so many Americans view that crappy movie as a history lesson.

83 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:00:56pm

re: #73 b_sharp

I have a deviated septum too.

Describe yourself as “nasally deviant” instead. It will give you the upper hand in negotiations. It also sounds amusing.

84 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:01:46pm

re: #82 Mattand

It absolutely scares the shit out of me that so many Americans view that crappy movie as a history lesson.

Nah, I still get a kick out of how many don’t stop and think that a movie that supposedly extols the virtues of American fighting spirit and freedom fighters ends up killing all but two of the “heroes” by the end of the film.

85 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:01:54pm

re: #6 Kragar

Boehner To Obama: Syria Is On You

It irritates me when a waste of space like Boehner gets to say something I agree with.

I’m 100% in favor of the idea that an Adminstration that believes military action is necessary in a case other than self-defense needs to make the case to Congress and the people.

86 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:03:36pm

re: #85 EPR-radar

It irritates me when a waste of space like Boehner gets to say something I agree with.

I’m 100% in favor of the idea that an Adminstration that believes military action is necessary in a case other than self-defense needs to make the case to Congress and the people.

Scary as hell that Freepers and TPGOP nutjobs agree with me. Somehow I think their motives are different.

87 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:05:46pm
88 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:06:05pm


I know I’m repeating myself, but this bullshit about impeachment is unreal.

Jesus Christ, was anyone screaming impeachment when Truman integrated the troops or LBJ signed the Civil Rights and Voting Acts? Those were highly controversial laws that threatened the privilege of much of America. Yet nobody screamed impeachment then. (Right?)

89 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:06:58pm

I know I am old and my intelligence is only average, but it seems that this world has gone insane. I barely recognize it. I don’t understand anyone anymore. I don’t even.

90 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:08:05pm

re: #89 Lawrence Schmerel

I know I am old and my intelligence is only average, but it seems that this world has gone insane. I barely recognize it. I don’t understand anyone anymore. I don’t even.

If you have a Sleezstak as your avatar, you can’t be that old. Unless you played one on the show.

91 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:08:58pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

This is going to become my go-to video isn’t it?

Youtube Video

FFS, how stupid are these ignorant twits.

92 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:08:59pm

re: #89 Lawrence Schmerel

I know I am old and my intelligence is only average, but it seems that this world has gone insane. I barely recognize it. I don’t understand anyone anymore. I don’t even.

It’s because you’re old and have grown wise enough to recognize the crazy. Kids swim in it and just think it’s part of the entertainment.

93 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:11:23pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

Nah, I still get a kick out of how many don’t stop and think that a movie that supposedly extols the virtues of American fighting spirit and freedom fighters ends up killing all but two of the “heroes” by the end of the film.

Americans love patriotic martyrs, as long as it’s someone else’s kid being shot to pieces.

94 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:12:27pm

re: #88 Mattand

I know I’m repeating myself, but this bullshit about impeachment is unreal.

Jesus Christ, was anyone screaming impeachment when Truman integrated the troops or LBJ signed the Civil Rights and Voting Acts? Those were highly controversial laws that threatened the privilege of much of America. Yet nobody screamed impeachment then. (Right?)

BS about impeachment is unreal because Obama is not stupid enough to give the GOP a real reason to impeach (e.g., going into Syria even if Congress votes against it).

Integrating the military was controversial, but is pretty clearly within the power of the Executive. Impeaching LBJ for signing an act of Congress would be a level of madness that even the present day GOP has not yet reached.

95 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:12:28pm

re: #93 Mattand

Americans love patriotic martyrs, as long as it’s someone else’s kid being shot to pieces.

Which is why there would be no talk of a Syrian war if we still had a draft.

96 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:14:22pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

The last paragraph from that article:

Red Dawn. A frickin’ grown woman. I just… *headdesk*

“AVENGE ME!”

97 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:15:51pm
98 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:16:15pm

re: #95 Decatur Deb

Which is why there would be no talk of a Syrian war if we still had a draft.

That was often said about Iraq War 2: Bush’s Boog-a-loo. Although I think a more accurate statement might be “a draft that included the kids of Congress, and one not proportionally slanted toward the poor and minorities.

99 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:20:13pm

If we had a white GOP President, the bombs would have already dropped.

100 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:20:40pm

re: #76 CuriousLurker

4 U.

101 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:22:34pm

re: #98 Mattand

That was often said about Iraq War 2: Bush’s Boog-a-loo. Although I think a more accurate statement might be “a draft that included the kids of Congress, and one not proportionally slanted toward the poor and minorities.

Universal conscription (women too) or nuthin.

102 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:23:05pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

Do not piss off grandma.

That is a very common thing some people forget. They have seen enough shit, and very likely are out of fucks to give.

103 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:23:05pm

Barton: Everything the Bible Says Will Eventually Be Confirmed by Science

So science will explain how a woman got turned into a pillar of salt? Science will explain how food magically multiplied? Science will explain how languages evolved from the Tower of Babel?

104 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:23:27pm

re: #99 Eclectic Cyborg

If we had a white GOP President, the bombs would have already dropped.

“Mission Accomplished!”

105 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:23:48pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Universal conscription (women too) or nuthin.

“When I said lottery, I meant lottery, Miley”.

106 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:25:24pm

re: #103 Kragar

The pillar of salt thing could refer to carbonization.

But that means that either a volcano or asteroid played a game of “Fuck this place in particular.”

After the spectacle in Russia earlier this year, I could believe there could have been a meteoric incident in the Stone Age Levant.

107 CuriousLurker  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:25:48pm

re: #100 wrenchwench

4 U.

Very interesting—never heard of them before. Thanks!

108 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:26:42pm

Greetings from my new laptop - Macbook Air, 500gb flash drive, 8gb RAM. Not a bad little machine, and it’s lighter than my tank of a Dell at home.

109 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:26:45pm

re: #106 ProTARDISLiberal

The pillar of salt thing could refer to carbonization.

But that means that either a volcano or asteroid played a game of “Fuck this place in particular.”

After the spectacle in Russia earlier this year, I could believe there could have been a meteoric incident in the Stone Age Levant.

Must have been highly localized to just effect Lot’s wife.

110 Lawrence Schmerel  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:27:04pm

re: #90 Mattand

No, I am a Sleestak. And, I wasn’t talking about YOUR world. I was talking about the Lost Land where I live. It’s crazy over here. The Pukini are making problems again, and that Marshall family have ruined the place.

111 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:28:39pm


That’s 4 ships total now.

112 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:29:08pm

re: #110 Lawrence Schmerel

No, I am a Sleestak. And, I wasn’t talking about YOUR world. I was talking about Lost Land where I live. It’s crazy over here. The Pukini are making problems again, and that Marshall family have ruined the place.

Two Sleestaks see the Marshalls cascade down the falls.

Sleestak One to Sleestak Two: “HSSSSS HISSSS HSSSSSS”

Translation: “There goes the neighborhood…”

113 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:29:56pm

re: #111 NJDhockeyfan

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That’s 4 ships total now.

What is Putin going to do, have his ships fire on US ships?

114 Ace-o-aces  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:30:22pm
“You don’t respect our view,” the man yelled. “We didn’t send you to get war for us! We sent you to stop the war!”

You sent McCain to stop a war? Boy, did you pick the wrong man for the job.

115 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:30:39pm

re: #113 b_sharp

What is Putin going to do, have his ships fire on US ships?

Thanks to our boy Snowden, Putin might know the best spots to shell them.

116 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:30:51pm

re: #106 ProTARDISLiberal

Tufa towers

117 freetoken  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:31:04pm

Oh look, America is exporting something:

Parents’ outrage as extremist US religious cult hand out creationist books and preach to kids at Scottish school

HORRIFIED parents fear an extremist religious sect has been trying to brainwash their kids after it was allowed to infiltrate a Scots primary school.

A head teacher invited the US Church of Christ, which rubbishes evolution and counts homosexuality as a sin, to minister to pupils.

The “missionaries” at the school include face-painted Jared Blakeman, pictured in a T-shirt with the slogan AIM – short for “Adventures in Mission”.

Many parents at 400-pupil Kirktonholme Primary in East Kilbride only realised their children were being exposed to the evangelical group’s agenda when kids brought home alarming books they had been handed at assembly.

The creationist books, defended by head teacher Sandra MacKenzie, denounce the theory of evolution and warn pupils that, without God, they risk being murdered in a harmful, disgusting world.

Parents have called for emergency talks with education chiefs, where they will demand the sect’s removal from the school.

[…]

Silly Scottish newspaper, those aren’t “extremists”. We just call them “True God-loving, True Conservative Americans” over here.

118 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:31:28pm

re: #113 b_sharp

What is Putin going to do, have his ships fire on US ships?

Most likely, get in the way and obstruct operations and hope they can blame any accidents on the US.

119 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:32:48pm
120 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:33:53pm

re: #117 freetoken

Gotta be a tough job selling religion door-to-door to feckn’ Scots.

121 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:34:57pm

re: #117 freetoken

Too funny. From the linked article:

“Church leaders told their US flock in a video blog about their “work” at the school, and claimed that, out of a population of 5.1million, Scotland has only 700 practising Christians.”

122 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:35:46pm

I suppose someone has already mentioned this, but didn’t McCain become pretty irrelevant when he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008?

123 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:37:55pm

John McCain vs. Angry Wingnuts

Whoever wins, we lose.

124 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:37:59pm

Haha, anyone catch this?

Sen. McCain says in town hall he will ‘lie down in front of Pennsylvania avenue’ if there are boots on the ground in Syria - @johnson

125 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:38:14pm

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

I suppose someone has already mentioned this, but didn’t McCain become pretty irrelevant when he chose Sarah Palin as his running mate in 2008?

What about that would make McCain irrelevant? The Palinite wing of the GOP (Tea partiers etc.) are still on the march.

126 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:39:02pm

re: #116 Single-handed sailor

But that occurred over a period of time.

I’m going to guess that there was in incident involving some sort of meteor over the Levant. This event occurred in an area with towns with a depraved reputation.

And it created one heck of an imprint on the peoples surrounding the impact area.

127 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:39:04pm

re: #123 Eclectic Cyborg

John McCain vs. Angry Wingnuts

Whoever wins, we lose.

Here it would be reasonable to hope for injuries on both sides.

128 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:40:37pm

re: #119 NJDhockeyfan

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Want.

129 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:41:45pm

re: #126 ProTARDISLiberal

If there was an ancient meteor strike that hit a town, odds are the town was not markedly better or worse than other towns, and ended up with a bad reputation as soon as its destruction was attributed to a good god.

130 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:43:13pm

Perkins: Use Health Care Funds To Bomb Syria

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) appeared on Washington Watch yesterday with Family Research Council head Tony Perkins, where he spent most of his time asserting that Republicans have a mandate to defund Obamacare because they did so well in the 2010 midterms and never mind that whole election last November.

After Jordan insisted that the GOP-led House should strip funding from Obamacare by using the budget and debt ceiling debates as leverage, the Religious Right leader came up with a brilliant plan to tell President Obama that Congress will only approve military action against Syria if the money comes out of Obamacare: “You could even take it to the issue of Syria. If the President wants to expend resources in going into Syria, maybe you should have to choose between funding Obamacare and funding a war in Syria, can’t do both.”

Of course, conservative leaders were not as concerned with the trillions of dollars spent in the Iraq war.

131 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:44:54pm

re: #124 Justanotherhuman

Haha, anyone catch this?

Sen. McCain says in town hall he will ‘lie down in front of Pennsylvania avenue’ if there are boots on the ground in Syria - @johnson

Cool. He could get Jane Fonda to hold hands next to him and sing “We Shall Oversleep”.

132 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:44:56pm

Talk about a waste of resources:

Whether the Oklahoma Supreme Court erred in holding - without analysis or discussion - that the Oklahoma law requiring that abortion-inducing drugs be administered according to the protocol described on the drugs’ FDA-approved labels is facially unconstitutional under Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

also paged

133 bratwurst  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:45:30pm

People don’t seem to understand the meaning of “treason” anymore…

134 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:45:49pm

Uh oh. Waiting for confirmation…

135 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:45:53pm

re: #125 EPR-radar

What about that would make McCain irrelevant? The Palinite wing of the GOP (Tea partiers etc.) are still on the march.

He’s never apologized for loosing her on the public. Before 2008, and she opened her big, ignorant mouth, the Rs weren’t as rabid as they are now. We know he wasn’t thinking with his big head on that pick.

Damn, he should have left her in obscurity in AK.

136 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:47:31pm

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Not good.

137 freetoken  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:48:29pm

re: #133 bratwurst

The hatred of the black man in the white house is so voluminous that it is now spilling over the edges and splashing onto other people in the vicinity.

138 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:50:22pm

re: #135 Justanotherhuman

He’s never apologized for loosing her on the public. Before 2008, and she opened her big, ignorant mouth, the Rs weren’t as rabid as they are now. We know he wasn’t thinking with his big head on that pick.

Damn, he should have left her in obscurity in AK.

The Palin pick was probably forced on him by conservative elements within the GOP.

Nevertheless, that pick remains as McCain’s unforgivable act. He gave that element of the party new prominence with ‘one of their own’ as the VP nominee.

Palin’s evil nonsense about ‘real America’ still rankles.

139 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:50:51pm

re: #130 Kragar

Perkins: Use Health Care Funds To Bomb Syria

Ok, time to see who won the pool. Which Lizard called this first?

140 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:51:03pm
141 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:52:10pm

re: #129 EPR-radar

If there was an ancient meteor strike that hit a town, odds are the town was not markedly better or worse than other towns, and ended up with a bad reputation as soon as its destruction was attributed to a good god.

That’s what I think. I do think there was some kind of bolide event, most likely a low-altitude airburst. The folks in the surrounding area see the settlement destroyed and say, “Just damn! They must’ve been some real douchebags to piss off ___________ (insert deity here).”

142 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:52:28pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok, time to see who won the pool. Which Lizard called this first?

I’m probably a contender, although this might not count, since it comes from a RW preacher rather than a RW congress critter.

143 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:53:16pm

So one of my co-workers just got a new apartment and needed a bike for getting to the train as he was going to be a mile away and didn’t want to have to walk. Having some extra bikes in the garage, I gave him my wife’s old mountain bike (a GT - nice bike - rode it myself to the office when I gave it to him…first time it had been ridden in 9 years)…anyway, she asked if he was paying for it. I said I was just happy to have it out of the garage. When I gave it to him I hinted that she liked a good bottle of wine (specifically, French chardonnays, or a nice Italian prosecco would be an appropriate thank-you gift).

This was on my desk when I got to work this morning:
Image: 1231491_10151857498233024_1119763606_n.jpg

I posted it to facebook and her response was, “I want my bike back.” I’m still laughing…but I’ll give the bottle a place in the rack for when we have company come over - specifically, our friend the wine importer whom she just asked to get two cases of wine - he’s the kind of guy who when he comes to a birthday party brings a bottle from that person’s birth year…because he has it in his cellar.

144 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:53:57pm

By most standards, Booker isn’t very wealthy if he only earned $4M in 15 yrs.

Tax returns reveal Booker earned nearly $4 million since 1998, paid $1 million in taxes

nj.com

That comes out to an average of about $267K/yr before taxes, or about $200K after.

According to Romney, he’s barely “middle class”.

145 RinaX  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:55:43pm

re: #140 NJDhockeyfan

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Is this supposed to have been done by the Syrian government, or the rebels? I’m someone who is inclined to support limited military action to destroy known chemical weapon compounds, yet I just find it hard to believe that they would be dumb enough to do this again at this point.

146 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:57:19pm

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok, time to see who won the pool. Which Lizard called this first?

I thought the pool was for senators at the senate hearing only.

147 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:59:00pm

re: #145 RinaX

Is this supposed to have been done by the Syrian government, or the rebels? I’m someone who is inclined to support limited military action to destroy known chemical weapon compounds, yet I just find it hard to believe that they would be dumb enough to do this again at this point.

‘Destroy’ equals ‘release’, unless it’s done in a high-tech incinerator.

148 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 12:59:17pm

re: #128 wrenchwench

Want.

Can’t you make one???
:P

149 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:00:32pm

re: #145 RinaX

Is this supposed to have been done by the Syrian government, or the rebels? I’m someone who is inclined to support limited military action to destroy known chemical weapon compounds, yet I just find it hard to believe that they would be dumb enough to do this again at this point.

Why?
The majority of the world has shown they don’t care.

150 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:00:47pm

OT: At work a couple of days ago I had was subjected to the most mind bogglingly stupid safety training ever. The guy who was conducting the training used supplement videos the he ran using…RealPlayer.

I didn’t know that even still existed.

151 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:01:00pm

re: #148 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Can’t you make one???
:P

Theoretically….

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. But in practice, there is.

153 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:01:38pm

re: #150 Eclectic Cyborg

OT: At work a couple of days ago I had was subjected to the most mind bogglingly stupid safety training ever. The guy who was conducting the training used supplement videos the he ran using…RealPlayer.

I didn’t know that even still existed.


..
.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

154 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:01:40pm

re: #138 EPR-radar

The Palin pick was probably forced on him by conservative elements within the GOP.

Nevertheless, that pick remains as McCain’s unforgivable act. He gave that element of the party new prominence with ‘one of their own’ as the VP nominee.

Palin’s evil nonsense about ‘real America’ still rankles.

QFT

155 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:01:57pm

re: #145 RinaX

Is this supposed to have been done by the Syrian government, or the rebels? I’m someone who is inclined to support limited military action to destroy known chemical weapon compounds, yet I just find it hard to believe that they would be dumb enough to do this again at this point.

So far what I’m seeing is the Syrian government is shelling those areas and reports of gas being used. I’m waiting for confirmation.

156 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:02:57pm

There I go, getting cranky again.

157 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:03:26pm

re: #116 Single-handed sailor

Tufa towers

Insta-upding. Saw those when I was out in California at the end of July. :)

158 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:05:46pm

re: #152 Kragar

He has little faith if he believes Allah did not work this way.

159 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:05:46pm

Over at RedState, the presently featured story has the headline “The Obama Administration gets Pwned by AIPAC?”.

Time to plan the ski vacation in hell, I guess. Even suggesting that AIPAC may have undue influence on US foreign policy has usually been anathema on the US right.

(edited to add question mark in headline at as RedState, which I inadvertently omitted)

160 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:06:54pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

Over at RedState, the presently featured story has the headline “The Obama Administration gets Pwned by AIPAC”.

Time to plan the ski vacation in hell, I guess. Even suggesting that AIPAC may have undue influence on US foreign policy has usually been anathema on the US right.

Da fuq.
Watching wingnuts turn into moonbatty libertarians is weird as shit.

161 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:08:16pm

re: #158 ProTARDISLiberal

He has little faith if he believes Allah did not work this way.

According to religious folks, an omnipotent creator is incapable of creating a universe over billions of years using scientifically observable phenomenon to sculpt his work.

162 RinaX  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:09:25pm

re: #149 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Yes, I know, but still. This is just monumentally stupid.

163 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:10:56pm
164 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:11:37pm

re: #10 darthstar

Doesn’t McCain want boots on the ground?

WFC (Who Fucking Cares?)

165 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:12:20pm

BBL

166 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:12:59pm

Crowing over the “right/left alliance”, dudebros celebrate.

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1h

As @ThePlumLineGS documents, the same coalition supporting Amash/Conyers against NSA is now blocking war in Syria washingtonpost.com

As if they really had anything in common at all. Yes, sometimes politics does make strange bedfellows, though.

167 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:13:45pm

re: #164 FemNaziBitch

WFC (Who Fucking Cares?)

Works too.
Youtube Video

168 bratwurst  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:14:38pm

re: #159 EPR-radar

Over at RedState, the presently featured story has the headline “The Obama Administration gets Pwned by AIPAC”.

Time to plan the ski vacation in hell, I guess. Even suggesting that AIPAC may have undue influence on US foreign policy has usually been anathema on the US right.

Who could have ever guessed that the American right’s love affair with Israel was at least partially based on political expediency?!? ///

169 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:15:53pm

re: #166 Justanotherhuman

Crowing over the “right/left alliance”, dudebros celebrate.

Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald 1h

As @ThePlumLineGS documents, the same coalition supporting Amash/Conyers against NSA is now blocking war in Syria washingtonpost.com

As if they really had anything in common at all. Yes, sometimes politics does make strange bedfellows, though.

In 2008, Greenwald started something he called the Strange Bedfellows Coalition. It seems to have disappeared without a trace.

170 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:17:58pm

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
- Thomas Aquinas

171 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:19:39pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb


“The only way to win is not to play.”

EXACTLY!!

172 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:20:07pm

re: #170 Kragar

“The truth of our faith becomes a matter of ridicule among the infidels if any Catholic, not gifted with the necessary scientific learning, presents as dogma what scientific scrutiny shows to be false.”
- Thomas Aquinas

excellent

173 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:22:04pm

re: #169 wrenchwench

In 2008, Greenwald started something he called the Strange Bedfellows Coalition. It seems to have disappeared without a trace.

You mean this, right?

Strange Bedfellows meet on FISA

crooksandliars.com

174 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:23:02pm
175 Pavlovian Hive Mind  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:24:18pm

Using chlorine gas is chemical warfare.

176 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:24:40pm
177 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:24:42pm

I’m not seeing any reports of another chemical attack in mainstream media. Could be rumors/disinformation. Extreme caution warranted.

178 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:25:04pm

To whichever Lizard recommended this book. I finally got around to reading it and heartily recommend it to others.

Thank you.

btw-quick and easy read. Got thru it in less than a night.

179 allegro  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:25:04pm

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

But I bet their whites are whiter and colors are brighter

180 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:25:46pm

re: #179 allegro

But I bet their whites are whiter and colors are brighter

And the grass is greener and their street signs are in cool colors. Just like Disneyworld.

181 ObserverArt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:26:47pm

re: #134 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh. Waiting for confirmation…

[Syrian forces have used gas against the Qabun neighborhood of Damascus, Al-Arabiya is reporting. on.mktw.net

That is sort of alarming if indeed it did happen. Only reason they would do something like that is to ensure they get attacked by the US/West. So would they want that, or would someone backing them want that?

182 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:27:53pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

You mean this, right?

Strange Bedfellows meet on FISA

crooksandliars.com

Yup. There’s a trace.

183 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:28:25pm

Interesting side note:

One of the first examples of chemical warfare that actually provided archeological evidence was also discovered in Syria. There was anecdotal information suggesting chemical weapons being used for centuries before this, but this would be actual proof.

Buried Soldiers May Be Victims of Ancient Chemical Weapon

Almost 2,000 years ago, 19 Roman soldiers rushed into a cramped underground tunnel, prepared to defend the Roman-held Syrian city of Dura-Europos from an army of Persians digging to undermine the city’s mudbrick walls. But instead of Persian soldiers, the Romans met with a wall of noxious black smoke that turned to acid in their lungs. Their crystal-pommeled swords were no match for this weapon; the Romans choked and died in moments, many with their last pay of coins still slung in purses on their belts.

Nearby, a Persian soldier — perhaps the one who started the toxic underground fire — suffered his own death throes, grasping desperately at his chain mail shirt as he choked. [Image of skeleton of Persian soldier]

These 20 men, who died in A.D. 256, may be the first victims of chemical warfare to leave any archeological evidence of their passing, according to a new investigation. The case is a cold one, with little physical evidence left behind beyond drawings and archaeological excavation notes from the 1930s. But a new analysis of those materials published in January in the American Journal of Archaeology finds that the soldiers likely did not die by the sword as the original excavator believed. Instead, they were gassed.

184 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:29:01pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

That is sort of alarming if indeed it did happen. Only reason they would do something like that is to ensure they get attacked by the US/West. So would they want that, or would someone backing them want that?

Brazil is behind it all. You heard it here first.
///

185 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:30:15pm

re: #144 Justanotherhuman

By most standards, Booker isn’t very wealthy if he only earned $4M in 15 yrs.

Tax returns reveal Booker earned nearly $4 million since 1998, paid $1 million in taxes

nj.com

That comes out to an average of about $267K/yr before taxes, or about $200K after.

According to Romney, he’s barely “middle class”.

I’d love to be that kind of middle-class right now.

186 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:31:05pm

re: #174 NJDhockeyfan

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Chlorine: Lung Damaging Agent

cdc.gov

Chlorine is a gas.

188 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:33:03pm

re: #186 Justanotherhuman

Chlorine: Lung Damaging Agent

cdc.gov

Chlorine is a gas.

Chlorine is an element which is a gas at room temperatures.

189 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:33:36pm

re: #185 Mattand

I’d love to be that kind of middle-class right now.

Depends on where he lives. Manhattan or D.C. —barely middle class. I say this because people don’t realize how hard it can be. If it’s hard for someone with that kind of money in some areas of the US. Imagine how hard it is for Walmart workers in the same area … …

190 McSpiff  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:33:49pm

This is getting absolutely ridiculous:

REPORTDIAL M FOR MYSTERY
DID WE TAKE OUT MI6’S SECRET LINE?

Yesterday, The Kernel reported on a secret telephone number that an anonymous tipster claimed was being used by MI6 to issue encrypted messages to overseas agents in the Middle East. We identified it as the telephone version of a “numbers station”, a shortwave radio communication spies use to communicate with one another.

As of this afternoon, that communications system has been taken down. Instead of hearing two bars of a classic English folk tune, callers are instead relayed a message telling them to use “backup channel romeo x-ray three nine”, followed by “end”. The Lincolnshire Poacher’s new home on the phone system would appear to have been raided.

I don’t get it? Do people just hate their governments now? Should we just abolish all intelligence services?

191 ObserverArt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:33:55pm

re: #184 Feline Fearless Leader

Brazil is behind it all. You heard it here first.
///

Ahhh…Greenwald! I hadn’t thought of him.

192 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:34:24pm

What the fuck?

193 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:34:51pm

re: #192 darthstar

What the fuck?

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Old Derp.

194 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:35:09pm

re: #186 Justanotherhuman

Chlorine: Lung Damaging Agent

cdc.gov

Chlorine is a gas.

It was also the initial “war gas” used by the Germans in 1915 after a few attempts to use tear gas via shells was ineffective.

en.wikipedia.org

195 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:36:00pm

re: #190 McSpiff

What kind of fuckery is that? And that site has a “resident astrologist”, too.

196 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:36:17pm

re: #190 McSpiff

This is getting absolutely ridiculous:

REPORTDIAL M FOR MYSTERY
DID WE TAKE OUT MI6’S SECRET LINE?

I don’t get it? Do people just hate their governments now? Should we just abolish all intelligence services?

I do think they should be renamed.

The Professional Paranoid Services.

197 McSpiff  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:38:57pm

re: #195 Justanotherhuman

What kind of fuckery is that? And that site has a “resident astrologist”, too.

Just showed up in a retweet on my feed. I really don’t get it. This War on Secrets is dangerously stupid. I really feel like the pre-ww2 isolationist attitudes are coming back in full force. “Gentleman do not read each others mail” and all that.

198 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:43:02pm

Poll: North Carolina’s National Image Tanks After Less Than A Year Of Republican Governance

The wave of voter suppression laws, attacks on abortion and other hard right legislation being pushed through the North Carolina legislature has taken a considerable toll on the nation’s perception of that state. According to a new Public Policy Polling poll, North Carolina’s national favorability rating fell dramatically since the last time PPP measured the favorability of each state in the union — “ts favorability has dropped from 40% to 30%, while the share of voters with an unfavorable opinion of it has more than doubled from 11% to 23%.” The drop was particularly sharp among African Americans, Hispanics and women:

199 sagehen  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:43:27pm

re: #152 Kragar

Creationist: Big Bang Theory ‘Bad Science’ Because It Contradicts the Bible

BUT IT DOESN’T CONTRADICT THE BIBLE!! AT ALL!! Do these people have the reading comprehension of 2nd graders?

In the beginning was the Word — LET THERE BE LIGHT

(imperative, future tense, most languages have suffixes that put more words into a a word than English can…)

200 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:44:50pm

Is it too early to predict the GOP will get shellacked next Nov. ?

202 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:45:23pm

re: #199 sagehen

BUT IT DOESN’T CONTRADICT THE BIBLE!! AT ALL!! Do these people have the reading comprehension of 2nd graders?

In the beginning was the Word — LET THERE BE LIGHT

(imperative, future tense, most languages have suffixes that put more words into a a word than English can…)

It contradicts those who are Preaching for Profit.

203 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:45:56pm

re: #199 sagehen

BUT IT DOESN’T CONTRADICT THE BIBLE!! AT ALL!! Do these people have the reading comprehension of 2nd graders?

In the beginning was the Word — LET THERE BE LIGHT

(imperative, future tense, most languages have suffixes that put more words into a a word than English can…)

These idiots have decided that the bible specifies a young earth and a literal six day creation. Their stupidity is entirely responsible for this supposed conflict.

204 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:46:10pm

re: #199 sagehen

In the beginning, there was nothing, then God said “LET THERE BE LIGHT!”

There was still nothing, but now you could see it.

205 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:47:13pm

re: #203 EPR-radar

These idiots have decided that the bible specifies a young earth and a literal six day creation. Their stupidity is entirely responsible for this supposed conflict.

That is what you get when your whole sect was based on SPLITTERS!
///

206 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:48:46pm

Poking through Wikipedia and came across a reference to a painting I saw in London.

en.wikipedia.org

A truly striking work of art. Large, well-done, and essentially a horrifying subject.

207 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:51:14pm

re: #206 Feline Fearless Leader

Poking through Wikipedia and came across a reference to a painting I saw in London.

en.wikipedia.org

A truly striking work of art. Large, well-done, and essentially a horrifying subject.

I’ve got a print of this hanging in my house.

Last Night of the War

208 sagehen  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:51:47pm

re: #181 ObserverArt

That is sort of alarming if indeed it did happen. Only reason they would do something like that is to ensure they get attacked by the US/West. So would they want that, or would someone backing them want that?

Or would some in Assad’s forces secretly sympathize with the rebels and want to undermine him from the inside rather than publicly defect?

209 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:51:59pm
210 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:53:06pm

S.C. Teacher Bullied Student Mercilessly, Called Him “Gay Boy,” Until Student Attempted Suicide

According to lawsuit, teacher repeatedly belittled the student in front of his peers, calling him names in class such as ‘Gay,’ ‘Gay Boy,’ ‘Mrs. Pete,’ ‘Mrs. Peters.”

211 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:53:40pm

re: #187 Charles Johnson

Speaking of rumors: Amazon Wants to Offer Its Smart Phone for $0, Even Without a Wireless Plan.

I think this is where that originated.

jessicalessin.com

212 sharonsj  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:53:53pm

You know, perfectly sane people are against this too. We were lied into Vietnam. We were lied into Kuwait. We were lied into Iraq. And we’re still in Afghanistan to no avail. We don’t need to be involved in yet another war, particularly a sectarian civil war, which seems to be the norm for decades in these Muslim countries.

213 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:54:23pm

re: #210 FemNaziBitch

S.C. Teacher Bullied Student Mercilessly, Called Him “Gay Boy,” Until Student Attempted Suicide

What the fuck. But let’s ignore this and blame gay people for the Holocaust shall we.

214 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:54:29pm
215 sagehen  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:54:58pm

re: #189 FemNaziBitch

Depends on where he lives. Manhattan or D.C. —barely middle class. I say this because people don’t realize how hard it can be. If it’s hard for someone with that kind of money in some areas of the US. Imagine how hard it is for Walmart workers in the same area … …

He lives in Newark; by New Jersey standards, the cost of living there is pretty low.

216 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:55:15pm

re: #212 sharonsj

Greetings, hatchling.

217 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:55:29pm

re: #212 sharonsj

You know, perfectly sane people are against this too. We were lied into Vietnam. We were lied into Kuwait. We were lied into Iraq. And we’re still in Afghanistan to no avail. We don’t need to be involved in yet another war, particularly a sectarian civil war, which seems to be the norm for decades in these Muslim countries.

I DON’T know exactly how I fit under the definition of sane. I can say I see no good reason to get involved another war.

218 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:56:01pm

re: #215 sagehen

He lives in Newark; by New Jersey standards, the cost of living there is pretty low.

What about my Alabama standards?

219 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:57:02pm

re: #218 FemNaziBitch

What about my Alabama standards?

Might be high depending on how far the drive is to the nearest Wegman’s or Trader Joe’s.
;)

220 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:58:15pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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I wish he didn’t have The American Conservative in his blogroll. Makes me wonder.

221 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 1:59:31pm

re: #190 McSpiff

I don’t get it? Do people just hate their governments now? Should we just abolish all intelligence services?

Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds.

222 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:00:38pm

It’s Friday.

I payed bills again.

I feel so grateful.

Seriously.

223 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:01:08pm

re: #143 darthstar

So one of my co-workers just got a new apartment and needed a bike for getting to the train as he was going to be a mile away and didn’t want to have to walk. Having some extra bikes in the garage, I gave him my wife’s old mountain bike (a GT - nice bike - rode it myself to the office when I gave it to him…first time it had been ridden in 9 years)…anyway, she asked if he was paying for it. I said I was just happy to have it out of the garage. When I gave it to him I hinted that she liked a good bottle of wine (specifically, French chardonnays, or a nice Italian prosecco would be an appropriate thank-you gift).

This was on my desk when I got to work this morning:
Image: 1231491_10151857498233024_1119763606_n.jpg

I posted it to facebook and her response was, “I want my bike back.” I’m still laughing…but I’ll give the bottle a place in the rack for when we have company come over - specifically, our friend the wine importer whom she just asked to get two cases of wine - he’s the kind of guy who when he comes to a birthday party brings a bottle from that person’s birth year…because he has it in his cellar.

Yuck to the 2 buck chuck!

224 Mattand  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:01:11pm

re: #189 FemNaziBitch

Depends on where he lives. Manhattan or D.C. —barely middle class. I say this because people don’t realize how hard it can be. If it’s hard for someone with that kind of money in some areas of the US. Imagine how hard it is for Walmart workers in the same area … …

Yeah, imagining that hasn’t been all that hard recently.

225 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:02:33pm

re: #221 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds.

It’s on Audible AND LIBRIVOX.

226 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:03:30pm
227 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:04:17pm

re: #225 FemNaziBitch

It’s on Audible AND LIBRIVOX.

Now, someone tell me which of the links to use to get it on my iPhone from Librivox.

228 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:04:35pm

re: #226 Kragar

Sessions: Assad Would Have Feared Bush

I think towards the end, just about everyone feared Bush.

229 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:06:08pm

re: #226 Kragar

Sessions: Assad Would Have Feared Bush

And he doesn’t Obama, the guy who got the world’s most wanted man. Man these guys couldn’t be any more pathetic if they tried.

230 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:07:30pm

re: #229 HappyWarrior

And he doesn’t Obama, the guy who got the world’s most wanted man. Man these guys couldn’t be any more pathetic if they tried.

I’d be scared of any guy who had aim half as bad as Bush holding a gun.

231 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:09:04pm

re: #214 Charles Johnson

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Now I know what books to get my father for xmas. He is former NSA. I only found that out much later in life.

232 jaunte  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:09:34pm

re: #226 Kragar

Sessions: Assad Would Have Feared Bush

That’s why Hafez al-Assad shelled Hama in 1981 before Bush could stop him.

233 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:10:24pm

Obviously Saddam wasn’t afraid of Reagan’s response if he gassed people. Yeah, I’m going to play that game and attack the Reagan administration for gross foreign policy stupidity.

234 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:11:22pm
235 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:12:08pm

re: #234 darthstar

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It’s true. This will be interesting.

236 FemNaziBitch  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:12:24pm

bbl

237 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:12:34pm

re: #233 HappyWarrior

Obviously Saddam wasn’t afraid of Reagan’s response if he gassed people. Yeah, I’m going to play that game and attack the Reagan administration for gross foreign policy stupidity.

Well, Reagan’s response was to simply sell Saddam Hussein more chemical weapons to use against the Iranians, so no…I don’t think he was afraid so much as he was encouraged. And yes, I’m calling that old drooler (Reagan) a war criminal.

238 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:13:19pm

There is no way we can stop Assad from using poison gas if he chooses to persist even in the face of attack. The munitions themselves are just too easy to conceal and disperse. Any overpass or garage could conceal a multiple rocket launcher with gas warheads, any cannon can fire a gas shell. Fortunately, chemical warheads on short and medium range ballistic missiles are more challenging technically. The simplest option of all for long range delivery, aerial bombs, could be interdicted with ease. This would probably prevent any chemical attacks against our bases in the region. At shorter ranges, though, he can keep firing them until they run out, and his stockpile is enormous. The only effect of our intervention would be to help the rebels overthrow him as punishment for his transgressions. But then what? The most best outcome would probably be another Iraq, with a more or less functional government in his place, but perpetual civil war and strife among the various ethnic and religious factions.

239 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:13:42pm

re: #237 darthstar

Well, Reagan’s response was to simply sell Saddam Hussein more chemical weapons to use against the Iranians, so no…I don’t think he was afraid so much as he was encouraged. And yes, I’m calling that old drooler (Reagan) a war criminal.

Absolutely galls me that people think he’s among the greatest presidents ever.

240 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:13:47pm

re: #235 FemNaziBitch

It’s true. This will be interesting.

It’s a shitty situation, and no matter what happens, Congress will blame Obama. Good luck to Democrats in 2014 that try to run away from Obama like they ran away from Obamacare in 2010. Stupid fuckers never learn.

241 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:14:17pm
242 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:14:21pm

re: #239 HappyWarrior

Absolutely galls me that people think he’s among the greatest presidents ever.

He is among the greatest presidents who enabled dictators who wanted to use chemical weapons on their own people ever.

243 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:14:36pm

re: #228 FemNaziBitch

I think towards the end, just about everyone feared Bush.

I’m still convinced that this is why Obama got the Nobel peace prize so shortly after being elected.

It would have made me very happy to see the official reason for Obama’s peace prize read “Awarded for not being a Republican nut job in thrall to the Project for a New American Century loons”.

244 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:15:29pm

re: #242 darthstar

He is among the greatest presidents who enabled dictators who wanted to use chemical weapons on their own people ever.

I see, kind of like Bush is the greatest president ever who quickly turned a surplus into a deficit.

245 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:16:01pm

re: #242 darthstar

He is among the greatest presidents who enabled dictators who wanted to use chemical weapons on their own people ever.

I would say Reagan was a well spoken and very personable President with considerable charisma. Probably why so many people put him on such a high pedestal.

246 HappyWarrior  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:16:41pm

re: #243 EPR-radar

I’m still convinced that this is why Obama got the Nobel peace prize so shortly after being elected.

It would have made me very happy to see the official reason for Obama’s peace prize read “Awarded for not being a Republican nut job in thrall to the Project for a New American Century loons”.

I really do think the international community was tired of the Cowboy attitude that the administration had. The whole America Fuck Yeah mentality. The mentality that gave John Bolton a recess appointment to be Ambassador to the UN.

247 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:18:42pm

re: #241 Eclectic Cyborg

Found this one:

Image: WZGmvKQ.jpg

“That’ll do, son. That’ll do.”

248 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:19:52pm

re: #240 darthstar

It’s a shitty situation, and no matter what happens, Congress will blame Obama. Good luck to Democrats in 2014 that try to run away from Obama like they ran away from Obamacare in 2010. Stupid fuckers never learn.

IMO, Obama and the Administration really do need to make a compelling case to get the Congressional Democrats in line, and to get the public polling in favor of intervention a lot closer than it is presently running.

If that can’t be done, then no intervention should take place.

I don’t see intra-party debate within the Democratic party regarding Syria intervention as being inherently damaging like running away from Obamacare was in 2010.

249 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:20:30pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

I would say Reagan was a well spoken and very personable President with considerable charisma. Probably why so many people put him on such a high pedestal.

It was his stock-in-trade as an actor, for chrissakes.

And some people seemed to like his performance.

250 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:21:03pm

Obama Reveals Syrian Attack Plan Ploy To Make Wingnuts Oppose Intervention

says ha ha now you can’t attack dem candidates for being too pacifist boy are you morons easy to manipulate

251 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:22:20pm

re: #245 Eclectic Cyborg

I would say Reagan was a well spoken and very personable President with considerable charisma. Probably why so many people put him on such a high pedestal.

american politics is first and foremost a tv show

252 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:23:35pm

Handy reusable tweet:

253 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:24:30pm

re: #247 Kragar

Found this one:

Image: WZGmvKQ.jpg

“That’ll do, son. That’ll do.”

The guy obviously couldn’t remember his grammar as she was gobbling his rock hard tool.

254 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:28:14pm

John McCain vs. Angry Wingnuts

where can a download a version that i can play on my iphone?

255 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:30:11pm

re: #240 darthstar

It’s a shitty situation, and no matter what happens, Congress will blame Obama. Good luck to Democrats in 2014 that try to run away from Obama like they ran away from Obamacare in 2010. Stupid fuckers never learn.

the action is massively unpopular right now

it isn’t set in stone that it always will be

256 PhillyPretzel  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:30:27pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

He is correct. Oy vey is he correct.

257 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:32:20pm

Now it appears the Internet has become a confessional…

Ohio man may face homicide charges after YouTube drunk driving admission

trust.org

And people want “privacy”?

258 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:32:59pm

If the wingnuts are angry they should just watch this funny joke.

Youtube Video

259 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:40:23pm

re: #247 Kragar

Found this one:

Image: WZGmvKQ.jpg

“That’ll do, son. That’ll do.”

And every masturbation is a Holocaust.

260 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:41:15pm

Mike Huckabee ‘chatting’ about 2016 bid

Former Gov. Mike Huckabee said Thursday that he has “not ruled out” a presidential bid in 2016.

“Am I informally chatting with people, asking if they think there’s any value in my taking it to another level? I’m having those conversations,” he said.

Fuck off, Huck.

261 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:43:31pm

re: #260 Kragar

Mike Huckabee ‘chatting’ about 2016 bid

Fuck off, Huck.

But he’s an affable shit-house-rat-crazy bigot!

262 darthstar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:44:49pm

re: #260 Kragar

Mike Huckabee ‘chatting’ about 2016 bid

Fuck off, Huck.

Oh, he just wants more attention and is worried Fox won’t renew his contract.

263 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:46:20pm

re: #261 GeneJockey

But he’s an affable shit-house-rat-crazy bigot!

Huckabee is dangerous if he runs because our media is mostly so horrible that they will report only on his affability.

The facts that he is a bigot and crazier than a shit house rat would mostly be viewed as not being newsworthy.

264 krypto  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:46:38pm

Obama really did earn that Nobel Peace Prize, even if after it was awarded.

No other American president in US history has changed as many warmongering rightwingers as quickly into zealous anti-war pacifists, just by being the one who is in charge of ordering military action.

265 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:47:51pm

Mike Huckabee ‘chatting’ about

somebody will need to be nominated for president on the wingnut ticket after the republican party nominates christie and they walk out

266 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:49:06pm

re: #264 krypto

Obama really did earn that Nobel Peace Prize, even if after it was awarded.

No other American president in US history has changed as many warmongering rightwingers as quickly to zealous anti-war pacifists, just by being the one who is in charge of ordering military action.

Very funny, but it won’t stick. If/when there is another GOP president, all of these ‘pacifists’ will change their positions faster than professional contortionists in a time trial.

267 ObserverArt  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:50:58pm

re: #262 darthstar

Oh, he just wants more attention and is worried Fox won’t renew his contract.

Yes, he’s learned from Sarah PayLin.

Which is scary when you think about it.

268 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:53:05pm

re: #259 GeneJockey

And every masturbation is a Holocaust.

OMG !
She…eats them.

269 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:56:42pm

re: #266 EPR-radar

Very funny, but it won’t stick. If/when there is another GOP president, all of these ‘pacifists’ will change their positions faster than professional contortionists in a time trial.

Which is why I’m so glad that the prez. took it back to Congress.
There’s always the chance the GOP will win someday.

270 CuriousLurker  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:57:50pm

In case anyone needs a laugh:

271 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 2:59:26pm

re: #87 NJDhockeyfan

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Cathedral of The Resurrection.

272 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 3:10:21pm

re: #260 Kragar

Mike Huckabee ‘chatting’ about 2016 bid

Fuck off, Huck.

Nah. Invite him into the mosh pit.

273 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 3:17:33pm

re: #271 Romantic Heretic

Cathedral of The Resurrection.

Kazan Cathedral is, like, a total ripoff of Bernini’s St. Peter’s square.

Image: St.-Peters-Square-Fontana-Watykan-Vatican-City-1080x1920.jpg

274 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 3:25:21pm

WaPo via Memorandum:

Is pornography (job loss) killing the economy?

washingtonpost.com

“America expects that every man will do his duty.”


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