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1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 5:45:28pm
2 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 5:52:53pm

Horrible close-captioning. : )

3 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 5:56:51pm

Colbert is awesome. His zingers just come a mile a minute. I also think John Oliver did a great job at the Daily Show. If Stewart ever packs his bags I hope Oliver gets the seat.

4 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 5:58:32pm
5 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:00:07pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

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Looks like a good place to consider turning into a fortress in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

6 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:01:43pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Looks like a good place to consider turning into a fortress in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

Yes, or a great weekend hideaway. : )

7 piratedan  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:02:31pm

re: #6 Justanotherhuman

Yes, or a great weekend hideaway. : )

but they probably don’t have cable, so it’s dish or nothing……

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:06:25pm

Full size naval test station image.

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9 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:07:45pm
10 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:08:22pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Full size naval test station image.

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Rehab!

11 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:09:00pm
12 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:09:55pm
13 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:12:07pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Looks like a good place to consider turning into a fortress in the event of a zombie apocalypse.

In World War Z (by which I mean the excellent book by the son of Mel Brooks and not the terrible movie starring Brad Pitt who couldn’t salvage it), zombies float once they become bloated, and they decompose very slowly, so they can last a while as horrific undead jellyfish.

Also, geographic isolation works both ways, so unless you have a reliable supply line to food and other necessities, stranded on an artificial island with no wildlife or vegetation is no place to be once the world’s gone tits up.

Fishing is probably no good, because there’s no way to know what the effects of eating fish that have scavenged floating zombie tissue might be. Hell, whatever created the zombies might have killed off all the fish. Or maybe the ocean is where it came from in the first place. Evolution presents the planet with some weirdly mutated virus that winds up in someone’s sushi. Patient zero eats it in Tokyo 12 hours before catching a flight to L.A., thereby also infecting several people on the plane, who will eventually end up in Dallas, Chicago, New York, London, Berlin, etc.

14 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:13:09pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

From the title, I was looking for a dragon.

15 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:14:50pm

re: #13 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Yeah if we ever hit a zombie apocalypse I think I’ll just call it quits.

16 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:23:39pm
17 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:26:38pm

re: #13 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

In World War Z (by which I mean the excellent book by the son of Mel Brooks and not the terrible movie starring Brad Pitt who couldn’t salvage it), zombies float once they become bloated, and they decompose very slowly, so they can last a while as horrific undead jellyfish.

Also, geographic isolation works both ways, so unless you have a reliable supply line to food and other necessities, stranded on an artificial island with no wildlife or vegetation is no place to be once the world’s gone tits up.

Fishing is probably no good, because there’s no way to know what the effects of eating fish that have scavenged floating zombie tissue might be. Hell, whatever created the zombies might have killed off all the fish. Or maybe the ocean is where it came from in the first place. Evolution presents the planet with some weirdly mutated virus that winds up in someone’s sushi. Patient zero eats it in Tokyo 12 hours before catching a flight to L.A., thereby also infecting several people on the plane, who will eventually end up in Dallas, Chicago, New York, London, Berlin, etc.

I have read the book as well as the Zombie Survival Guide and places like that fortress are considered one of the best places to hole up in a storm, provided you can tackle the issues of fresh water and sustainable food. Fish wouldn’t be a problem because the Guide states living creatures instinctively avoid contaminated flesh, which is part of the reason zombies survive so long even at the bottom of the ocean. The picture seems to indicate the structure might have a courtyard, which would allow the cultivation of crops provided you could find soil and seeds. And the shear sides would keep floaters from getting in easily, so long as you took precautions like closing up any openings at water level.

Your biggest challenge would probably be that it, being abandoned, wouldn’t be in the best of shape. You’d have to scout the building to determine structural soundness and assure that it wouldn’t fall apart while you’re trying to catch some shut-eye. Power would definitely be a problem, as would access to medical supplies and other items not easily manufactured.

18 Kragar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:27:05pm

re: #13 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

In World War Z (by which I mean the excellent book by the son of Mel Brooks and not the terrible movie starring Brad Pitt who couldn’t salvage it), zombies float once they become bloated, and they decompose very slowly, so they can last a while as horrific undead jellyfish.

Also, geographic isolation works both ways, so unless you have a reliable supply line to food and other necessities, stranded on an artificial island with no wildlife or vegetation is no place to be once the world’s gone tits up.

Fishing is probably no good, because there’s no way to know what the effects of eating fish that have scavenged floating zombie tissue might be. Hell, whatever created the zombies might have killed off all the fish. Or maybe the ocean is where it came from in the first place. Evolution presents the planet with some weirdly mutated virus that winds up in someone’s sushi. Patient zero eats it in Tokyo 12 hours before catching a flight to L.A., thereby also infecting several people on the plane, who will eventually end up in Dallas, Chicago, New York, London, Berlin, etc.

The bodies were toxic, so wildlife avoided eating them.

19 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:27:29pm

re: #15 Amory Blaine

Yeah if we ever hit a zombie apocalypse I think I’ll just call it quits.

Never ceases to amaze me that more people are afraid of a zombie apocalypse than something real like climate change.

Have a good night.

20 kirkspencer  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:36:13pm

re: #19 Iwouldprefernotto

Never ceases to amaze me that more people are afraid of a zombie apocalypse than something real like climate change.

Have a good night.

Not really “afraid of”. More a case of that’s the disaster they prefer. Reason? Because it’s darwin with machismo. Whether you’re the best fighter or hider or thief or whatever, because you’re the best you can (probably) survive.

Climate change? Go green, and prepare to move, and whatever you do isn’t worth crap if your neighbors don’t help.

21 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:36:38pm

re: #19 Iwouldprefernotto

A meteor related incident is more likely than Zombies.

Hell, we just had one this year.

22 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:37:22pm

I was being tongue in cheek. :p

23 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:39:59pm

re: #19 Iwouldprefernotto

Never ceases to amaze me that more people are afraid of a zombie apocalypse than something real like climate change.

Have a good night.

Not afraid of a zombie apocalypse, more engage in the idea of what to do in the event of one as an intellectual exercise. Sort of like what one does to think what they’d do in the event of a nuclear war, celestial object collision, global pandemic, or so forth. Climate change is such a slow-moving disaster that planning for events years or decades in the future leaves too many variables.

24 jaunte  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:40:03pm

re: #9 Charles Johnson

“Quartz arenites are the most mature sedimentary rocks possible”
en.wikipedia.org

Possibly older than 6,000 years.

25 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:41:30pm

re: #17 Targetpractice

If there’s a hurricane or even just a rough storm at sea, you’d have to hope that the place wouldn’t crumble around you.

A tsunami you’d see coming from miles away, with plenty of time to realize you’ve got nowhere to go.

And I think the assertion that wildlife would avoid toxic tissue breaks down in short order once it’s put to a large-scale test. Some people are color blind. Some rare people have no sense of smell. To quote George Carlin, some people are really fuckin’ stupid. There’s no reason to expect that similar deficiencies can’t occur in other species, and it only takes one zombie-blind shrimp to ingest some toxic tissue and thereby introduce the pathogen (assuming it’s a pathogen) into its own population, and potentially the entire food chain of which it is a part.

26 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:44:08pm

I’m thinking about getting “Born to Loose” tattooed on my forehead.

27 EPR-radar  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:47:17pm

re: #20 kirkspencer

Not really “afraid of”. More a case of that’s the disaster they prefer. Reason? Because it’s darwin with machismo. Whether you’re the best fighter or hider or thief or whatever, because you’re the best you can (probably) survive.

Climate change? Go green, and prepare to move, and whatever you do isn’t worth crap if your neighbors don’t help.

What I dislike about the zombie apocalypse meme is that a non-trivial fraction of the US right fantasizes in precisely these terms, except that black people and other undesirables fill in for the zombies.

28 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:49:01pm

re: #25 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

If there’s a hurricane or even just a rough storm at sea, you’d have to hope that the place wouldn’t crumble around you.

A tsunami you’d see coming from miles away, with plenty of time to realize you’ve got nowhere to go.

And I think the assertion that wildlife would avoid toxic tissue breaks down in short order once it’s put to a large-scale test. Some people are color blind. Some rare people have no sense of smell. To quote George Carlin, some people are really fuckin’ stupid. There’s no reason to expect that similar deficiencies can’t occur in other species, and it only takes one zombie-blind shrimp to ingest some toxic tissue and thereby introduce the pathogen (assuming it’s a pathogen) into its own population, and potentially the entire food chain of which it is a part.

The Guide makes clear they instinctively avoid contaminated flesh because it is toxic. As in the ingestion of zombie flesh is a guaranteed death sentence. Anything that fed off a zombie would quickly expire and thus the capture of it by a fisherman would be a pretty big tip-off that it’s best disposed of in short order.

29 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:52:07pm

re: #26 Amory Blaine

I’m thinking about getting “Born to Loose” tattooed on my forehead.

Born Toulouse

Image: Henri-de-Toulouse-Lautrec-9509115-1-402.jpg

30 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:53:43pm
31 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:54:58pm
32 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 6:56:49pm

I liked downtown better without the giant overhead screen.

33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:00:51pm

re: #19 Iwouldprefernotto

Never ceases to amaze me that more people are afraid of a zombie apocalypse than something real like climate change.

“Zombie apocalypse” is a stand-in scenario for the abrupt dissolution of large swaths of functioning civilization. There’s a practical, real-world reason that the CDC has a zombie preparedness web page.

What we think of as civilization is made up of a lot of different interdependent systems, each of which is the equivalent of a circus juggler spinning plates on poles while riding a unicycle in place and juggling a bowling pin with his chin. Events, places, and people are connected in ways that aren’t necessarily perceptible until the connections are unexpectedly broken.

I’m not a doomsday loon buying survival seeds or anything like that. I’m just saying that all throughout recorded history, things have changed dramatically, with no warning, and in ways that have had repercussions that last for decades or even centuries.

I think this is really what the zombie apocalypse motif represents. It’s just playing around with the idea of humans who grew up in, and were conditioned to, a fully functional civilization suddenly finding themselves suddenly and without warning plopped into the nasty, brutish, and short life of man in the state of uncivilized nature.

Bah, never mind. I’m drunk.

34 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:11:44pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Back when Ludwig was trying to maintain concern about the effects of climate change, it was obvious that rational statistical descriptions weren’t going to cut it. What is needed is the CC version of Sinclair’s “The Jungle”. The Zombie fantasies are almost a good place to start a CC Apocalypse.

Thinking heavily fortified University States, here.

35 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:15:08pm

re: #24 jaunte

“Quartz arenites are the most mature sedimentary rocks possible”
en.wikipedia.org

Possibly older than 6,000 years.

Always do their homework, clean up after themselves, volunteer to do the dishes after dinner, get part-time jobs to support their studies at Sedimentary College …

36 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:55:02pm

So, in Skyrim, I just defeated Ulfric Stormcloak after falling in with the Empire.

No, I have decided to be the one to send out. Do I use the admittedly awesome sword Tullius gave me, or do shout him down like he did Torygg?

37 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Sep 6, 2013 7:55:43pm

re: #33 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Katrina showed us how societal breakdown can take place.


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