Why Is Glenn Greenwald Promoting an Extreme Right Wing 9/11 Truther?

Greenwald hypes an article by Truther Andrew Napolitano
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Just a couple of days after he promoted the extreme right wing militia Oathkeepers (referring to them as “a coalition of current and former military, police, and other public officials”), activist Glenn Greenwald is now hyping an article by another far right conspiracy monger: Judge Andrew Napolitano.

Napolitano is probably best known for his loony shows on Fox Business, but he’s also a very frequent guest on the Alex Jones show, a big promoter of the John Birch Society, a close associate of racist paleocons Lew Rockwell and Ron Paul, a neo-Confederate who pushes the idea that Abraham Lincoln was a war criminal, and to top it all off — a 9/11 Truther.

And on 9/11 of this year, he went on Glenn Beck’s show and compared Syria’s use of chemical weapons to the Clinton administration’s siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas.

That’s who Glenn Greenwald thinks you should be reading.

A question for liberal supporters of the Greenwald agenda: is that just fine with you? Are these the people you want to be associated with?

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202 comments

1 erik_t  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:03:42pm

When you’re throwing ooga-booga-police-state bombs at the United States from Brazil, I don’t tend to expect much logical consistency.

In retrospect, this entire episode should have been pretty predictable.

2 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:07:47pm

That pic of GG you keep using needs a caption. Hmm…

3 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:08:14pm

Knee-jerk ODS taken to its logical extreme.

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:08:26pm

Also OT: If you haven’t already, I highly recommend checking out Jimmy Fallon’s “Joking Bad” spoof. I’m not the biggest Fallon fan, but he and his team did a pretty good job with this one.

5 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:09:24pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

That pic of GG you keep using needs a caption. Hmm…

“Come on, skull, pop out of my skin!”

6 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:10:06pm

The circle of Derp is in a spiral over the drain.

7 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:11:14pm

re: #6 b.d.

The circle of Derp is in a spiral over the drain.

But it spins in the opposite direction for GG.
/

8 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:11:34pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

The power of Glenn compels you!

9 erik_t  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:12:58pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

“Come on, skull, pop out of my skin!”

“Come on, skull, pop out of my colon!”

10 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:13:11pm

re: #6 b.d.

The circle of Derp is in a spiral over the drain.

The Circle of Derp has become a black hole, from whence no sanity can escape.

11 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:15:13pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

The Circle of Derp has become a black hole, from whence no sanity can escape.

Next I expect Glenn to be linking to a YouTUbe video of a dog that everybody swears says Obama Sucks


[edited because i can’t spell or write]

12 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:18:45pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

“Come on, skull, pop out of my skin!”

+1 for Space Mutiny reference

13 mk3872  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:18:51pm

Agh!! Stop referring to Greenwald as “Liberal”, please!

He has ALWAYS been a Paulite Libertarian paranoid freak.

Just because he wrote for Salon, I think people have assumed that he was Liberal.

Not in the least.

14 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:19:10pm

re: #10 Targetpractice

The Circle of Derp has become a black hole, from whence no sanity can escape.

The Derpularity

15 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:19:31pm

re: #13 mk3872

Agh!! Stop referring to Greenwald as “Liberal”, please!

He has ALWAYS been a Paulite Libertarian paranoid freak.

Just because he wrote for Salon, I think people have assumed that he was Liberal.

Not in the least.

Pretty sure I didn’t refer to Greenwald as a liberal.

16 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:19:38pm

re: #13 mk3872

Agh!! Stop referring to Greenwald as “Liberal”, please!

He has ALWAYS been a Paulite Libertarian paranoid freak.

Just because he wrote for Salon, I think people have assumed that he was Liberal.

Not in the least.

Glenn Greenwald is the Rand Paul of “journalists”

17 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:20:34pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

That pic of GG you keep using needs a caption. Hmm…

“My boxer shorts have my name and it says Raymond.”

18 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:21:01pm

Can’t be long now before we get neutral links to Tea Party costume parties. /

19 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:21:04pm

They all deserve each other.

On an unrelated note, my friend’s band just released their EP. I really do urge everyone to have a listen. :)

leeband.bandcamp.com

20 erik_t  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:22:02pm

In other news, have we heard from the Colorado contingent of lizardland? Scary looking stuff coming out of Boulder, etc.

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:22:05pm

The label that comes closest to describing Greenwald’s agenda is “nihilism.”

22 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:22:23pm

“All work and no derp makes Glenn a dull boy.”

23 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:22:26pm

re: #2 Eclectic Cyborg

That pic of GG you keep using needs a caption. Hmm…

“I’ll make you famous. Your face will be on milk cartons nation wide.”

24 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:23:13pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

The label that comes closest to describing Greenwald’s agenda is “nihilism.”

“Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it’s an ethos.”

25 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:23:46pm

GG looks exhausted.
/

26 jaunte  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:23:51pm

“Nihilinking”

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:25:09pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

The label that comes closest to describing Greenwald’s agenda is “nihilism.”

Neutral nihilism?

28 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:26:34pm

re: #25 Amory Blaine

GG looks exhausted.
/

Glenn looks like he just stomped a pigeon to death.

29 Flounder  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:26:59pm

Our kitten Newman turns out to be a girl, oh my!

30 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:27:14pm

re: #28 b.d.

Glenn looks like he just stomped a pigeon to death.

All the while screaming “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!”

31 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:31:28pm

What is this… I don’t even…

32 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:31:53pm

re: #23 Kragar

“I’ll make you famous. Your face will be on milk cartons nation wide.”

He didn’t tell Snowdon that it would be vodka bottles in Siberia.
//

33 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:33:35pm
34 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:33:43pm

Well just got back from my gastroscopy. I chose not to go with sedation so they just sprayed the back of my throat with anesthetic.

What does this have to do with GG?

I’m glad you asked.

Because they didn’t spray quite enough anesthetic onto the very back of my throat I had to fight the urge to throw up all over everybody around me, exactly as I do when I read anything by GG.

35 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:33:48pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

What is this… I don’t even…

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That is incoherent even for her.

I don’t think the government can fix anything because too many Republicans are in office.

36 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:34:17pm

Here’s a pretty scathing assessment of GG from April 2011.

Glenn Greenwald: Neither a Liberal Nor a Progressive

rootedcosmopolitan.wordpress.com

“…he’s either hostile to progressive politics, or he’s a political nitwit.”

I’ll take both for $200, Alex.

37 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:34:48pm


And he keeps finding all these extremists to link to in support of his own positions. He could potentially find folks who aren’t extremists, or troofers, or right wing militia types, but he keeps finding ways to link to them.

He’s going to link to anyone who supports his view, regardless of how odious that person’s background may be. And it seems like he’s purposefully going for the proverbial bomb throwers too (which may actually be counterproductive to his agenda, but he’s got his agenda, and he’s going to neutral link as he sees fit - all to extremists).

38 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:35:00pm

Coulter’s book comes out just in time for Maher’s first show. I’d rather punch myself in the face than watch.

39 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:35:37pm

I’m expecting Glenn to “neutral link” to Bryan Fischer.
Look at this shirt. Look at it. Would a gay man wear a shirt like that?
A gay man would totally wear that shirt and he would ROCK IT and it would be fabulous!
Also, OFFS (but OFFS is the standard for everything Bryan says)

40 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:37:05pm

re: #34 b_sharp

Sorry you had to endure this but hope now that it’s over all will be well.

41 Laura (Beulahmo)  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:37:43pm

He’s doing the “Dr. Paul” method of cultivating a following. He reaches out to *every* freakshow out there who’s willing to listen to him. And, like “Dr. Paul,” when he gets called out for associating with dubious or even scummy characters, he gets indignant and denies any accountability for validating or animating these people.

These two characteristics combined — the willingness to associate with people of dubious character while simultaneously rejecting accountability for it — that both Greenwald and Paul demonstrate should be analyzed. I think it’s fascinating, in a repulsive way.

42 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:38:16pm
43 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:38:26pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

Ann being Ann. And trying to claim that the folks who think that government can fix things are the takers, while the taxpayers are the ones footing the bill but think government is broken.

Eh… Have an easy fast to you and yours. And may you be inscribed in the Book of Life (and that goes to everyone else about to celebrate Yom Kippur).

44 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:38:35pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

The label that comes closest to describing Greenwald’s agenda is “nihilism.”

There’s probably a textual analysis program that could tear apart his quotes and endorsements and figure out what he is. Pretty sure he didn’t write Shakespeare’s plays.

45 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:39:11pm

Here’s the thing Bryan, being a conservative or a liberal is not hereditary. Having a bunch of kids is not a guarantee that they will hold your same views.

46 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:39:19pm

I think TwitterTwerking is a good hashtag for what Greenwald does. What sayeth the flock?

47 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:39:22pm

re: #42 darthstar

Twitter Twerking.

I like that one. Forget neutral linking, that’s what GG is up to.

48 lawhawk  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:39:33pm

re: #46 darthstar

So say we all!

49 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:40:22pm

re: #46 darthstar

I think TwitterTwerking is a good hashtag for what Greenwald does. What sayeth the flock?

#TwitterTwerking is outstanding.

50 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:40:25pm

re: #26 jaunte

I like Nihilinking.

51 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:40:31pm

re: #40 Bulworth

Sorry you had to endure this but hope now that it’s over all will be well.

Well if GG will shut the fuck up…

Oh, you meant the test. I have to go back to the doc’s to see how the biopsies went.

52 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:41:08pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Ann being Ann. And trying to claim that the folks who think that government can fix things are the takers, while the taxpayers are the ones footing the bill but think government is broken.

Eh… Have an easy fast to you and yours. And may you be inscribed in the Book of Life (and that goes to everyone else about to celebrate Yom Kippur).

I am not walking to shul tonight. The arthritis has been really painful since Wednesday and I don’t think I can make it the 3 blocks.

I am allowed to pop a Vicodin if the pain gets to be too bad, Vicodin is NOT FOOD no matter what you saw on the Dr. House show.

53 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:41:17pm

re: #39 Vicious Babushka

Bryan would have to like a dudebro book (Napolitino) or embrace ManningSnowden (Oathkeepers).

54 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:41:51pm

re: #43 lawhawk

Ann being Ann. And trying to claim that the folks who think that government can fix things are the takers, while the taxpayers are the ones footing the bill but think government is broken.

Eh… Have an easy fast to you and yours. And may you be inscribed in the Book of Life (and that goes to everyone else about to celebrate Yom Kippur).

TZOM KAL V’CHATIMA TOVAH.

55 jaunte  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:41:53pm

re: #50 Amory Blaine

I like Nihilinking.

Could be a scandinavian smoked fish delicacy, too.

56 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:42:14pm

re: #51 b_sharp

Good luck man.

57 Ming  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:42:59pm

I hardly ever watch Fox News, or listen to or view other right-wing media. Frankly, I don’t need the aggravation. But even I know that Andrew Napolitano is a wacko.

It does seem odd that someone who (one thinks) should “know better” would promote any material from “the fringe”, like the Southern Avenger, or the English Defence League, etc. But they do. I would have thought that GG was intelligent enough to not want to so obviously embarrass himself.

58 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:45:01pm

re: #50 Amory Blaine

I like Nihilinking.

I hate Brazilian Nihilists.

59 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:45:28pm

“Greenwald and the Snowden” would be a great remake. Could follow the original plot of Falcon and the Snowman pretty closely too.

60 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:46:08pm

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

TZOM KAL V’CHATIMA TOVAH.

Sorry, my universal translator seems to be acting up.

//

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:46:16pm
Why Is Glenn Greenwald Promoting an Extreme Right Wing 9/11 Truther?

Napolitano gives Scahill a glowing review, Scahill gave Greenwald a tongue bath a few months ago, so Greenwald promotes Napolitano while he’s pushing Scahill. It’s the Circle of Derp Mutual Admiration Society.

62 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:48:20pm

re: #61 wrenchwench

They make their life partners carry the membership cards.

63 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:48:39pm

re: #55 jaunte

Could be a scandinavian smoked fish delicacy, too.

Isn’t Nihilinking a line of affordable silverware at IKEA?

64 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:49:07pm

re: #62 Amory Blaine

They make their life partners carry the membership cards.

In case of detention in an airport.

65 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:51:00pm

Don’t forget John Nolte over at Britefart wrote this about GG, too, back in on June 6, after GG’s tweet damning the DoJ which he claimed would investigate his Guardian article outlining the Snowden theft (linking to report by Pete Williams).

“By the way, kudos to Greenwald. The difference between a liberal and a leftist is Glenn Greenwald.”

Wrong again, JN.

66 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:51:13pm
67 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:52:18pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

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I’m pretty sure I just heard Pam Geller’s head explode all the way over here. A faint “foomp” sound.

68 erik_t  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:53:12pm

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure I just heard Pam Geller’s head explode all the way over here. A faint “foomp” sound.

Funny, that’s the sound you get when you drop a lit match into a bottle of Everclear.

69 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:53:27pm

re: #66 Vicious Babushka

So, Teh Juice are in on the Jihad now, too. //

70 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:54:14pm

re: #65 Justanotherhuman

Is GG a ‘liberal’ or ‘leftist’ is this designation?

71 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:55:26pm

re: #70 Bulworth

Is GG a ‘liberal’ or ‘leftist’ is this designation?

GG is neither.

72 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:55:31pm

Dudebro™ Industries. The leader in worldwide derp production.

73 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:55:36pm

re: #68 erik_t

Funny, that’s the sound you get when you drop a lit match into a bottle of Everclear.

LOLOLOL

74 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:55:40pm

re: #70 Bulworth

Is GG a ‘liberal’ or ‘leftist’ is this designation?

life was easier before we all had to write our own dictionaries

75 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:56:45pm

re: #67 Dr Lizardo

I’m pretty sure I just heard Pam Geller’s head explode all the way over here. A faint “foomp” sound.

How long have you been a Mad Magazine subscriber? Always loved their ‘foomp’ deflagration effect.

76 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:56:48pm

Of course we end up with the cost of the negative externalities!

77 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:58:18pm

Where’s Snowden? Is he the guy Putin is making take all of the chemical weapons out of Syria?

78 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:59:39pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

I hate Brazilian Nihilists.

Like a Brazilian wax, starts out hot, is over in a flash and ends up being painful and useless. All that remains is the burning sensation.

79 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 1:59:47pm

re: #75 Decatur Deb

How long have you been a Mad Magazine subscriber? Always loved their ‘foomp’ deflagration effect.

Heh.

The last time I read an issue of Mad Magazine has to be well over 20 years ago……I guess that ‘foomp’ must have stuck in my subconsciousness.

80 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:00:05pm

re: #77 b.d.

Where’s Snowden? Is he the guy Putin is making take all of the chemical weapons out of Syria?

I’m sorry, Edward’s a “little tied up” right now and can’t get to the phone. Please call again later.

…and the operator says, “Forty cents more, for the next, three, minutes…”

81 b.d.  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:00:27pm

I guess Glenn can’t get to see him either?

A Brazilian government commission has requested Russia’s help to meet with former NSA contractor Edward Snowden

Link

82 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:01:30pm

re: #80 darthstar

I’m sorry, Edward’s a “little tied up” right now and can’t get to the phone. Please call again later.

…and the operator says, “Forty cents more, for the next, three, minutes…”

Cheap thrill.

1-900 numbers are way more expensive.

83 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:01:32pm

re: #74 dog philosopher

life was easier before we all had to write our own dictionaries

I really hate labels because I’m one of those people who vote Dem and believe in Dem principles, don’t particularly care about what other people do in their personal lives as long as they don’t harm someone, but I’m frugal/conservative personally in some areas, either from necessity or pragmatism. It works for me.

84 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:06:16pm

re: #83 Justanotherhuman

I really hate labels because I’m one of those people who vote Dem and believe in Dem principles, don’t particularly care about what other people do in their personal lives as long as they don’t harm someone, but I’m frugal/conservative personally in some areas, either from necessity or pragmatism. It works for me.

There are two kinds of people in the world - those who think there are two kinds of people in the world, and those who know better.

85 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:10:18pm

So has Scahill always been a hack? I remember reading his book about Blackwater and thought it was pretty accurate, at least according to the stuff I could find about the company. Or did he lose his mind when he didn’t get a progressive pony after Obama was elected?

86 b_sharp  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:10:45pm

re: #84 GeneJockey

There are two kinds of people in the world - those who think there are two kinds of people in the world, and those who know better.

Crap, I think I’m both.

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:10:56pm

re: #80 darthstar

I’m sorry, Edward’s a “little tied up” right now and can’t get to the phone. Please call again later.

…and the operator says, “Forty cents more, for the next, three, minutes…”

Was it a regular operator, or “Peggy” telling you that it was coupons being redeemed this week rather than points?

88 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:11:07pm
89 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:11:34pm

re: #85 A Mom Anon

So has Scahill always been a hack? I remember reading his book about Blackwater and thought it was pretty accurate, at least according to the stuff I could find about the company. Or did he lose his mind when he didn’t get a progressive pony after Obama was elected?

I think a lot of people did—lost their minds when they didn’t get a pony. : )

90 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:12:59pm

re: #42 darthstar

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Retweeted.

91 Laura (Beulahmo)  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:13:19pm

re: #80 darthstar

So the guy who called Sylvia’s mother is looking for Ed Snowden too?

92 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:15:18pm

re: #86 b_sharp

Crap, I think I’m both.

People are complicated. I never take anyone I think I can figure out for granted.

93 Bulworth  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:16:20pm

re: #85 A Mom Anon

He’s pretty closely connected to the folks at Democracy Now, if he isn’t actually employed by them, and most everyone there is pretty hostile to U.S. foreign policy and military action.

94 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:26:36pm

More libertarian gobbledegook from Glennlandia:

95 Mattand  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:27:04pm

re: #58 Decatur Deb

I hate Brazilian Nihilists.

Not quite as bad as Illinois Nazis, but getting there.

96 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:27:52pm

re: #93 Bulworth

Hmm. I get why people wouldn’t like all the stuff we’ve done in other countries, militarily and economically, but they aren’t very constructive. Or effective in invoking change. There’s got to be a better way of making things work. Anarchists don’t accomplish change either, at least not in their current form. It always seems to be white upper middle class people who do this crap, I wish they’d shut the fuck up and THINK.

I was kinda bummed about Scahill jumping the shark into brogressive land, that first book of his showed promise in investigative journalism.

97 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:38:11pm



Wasn’t following her, no longer following him.

98 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:40:07pm
“…Could you see Jack Kennedy acting like this?”

You mean, threatening the use of force but holding off when the Russian Leader does what we want?

*rolls eyes*

99 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:41:05pm

re: #98 GeneJockey

You mean, threatening the use of force but holding off when the Russian Leader does what we want?

*rolls eyes*

Don’t go all historic-y on us.

100 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:41:11pm

re: #13 mk3872

Welcome, hatchling.

101 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:43:02pm

I’m still waiting for someone to explain to me how Obama’s threat of military action goading Putin into reining in Assad is not a victory for Obama. If Bush had done it, the same people would be creaming their jeans over his manly manliness and how his cowboy swagger had made Vlad jump.

What am I missing, apart from the obvious, “The President is a Ni-BONNNNNGG!!”

102 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:43:33pm
103 Internet Tough Guy  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:44:04pm

Jack Kennedy would have had the backbone to nuke Moscow after Khrushchev agreed to withdraw the missiles from Cuba.

104 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:44:06pm

I mean, for fuck’s sake, these folks are mooning over a guy who explicitly denied their most deeply held belief - American Exceptionalism.

105 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:45:56pm

re: #103 Internet Tough Guy

Jack Kennedy would have had the backbone to nuke Moscow after Khrushchev agreed to withdraw the missiles from Cuba.

YEAH!! JUST LIKE IN OCTOBER OF ‘62, WHEN KENNEDY…Wait….Nevermind.

106 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:46:53pm

Water is finally reaching the southern New Mexican portion of the Rio Grande:

107 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:47:00pm

re: #103 Internet Tough Guy

Jack Kennedy would have had the backbone to nuke Moscow after Khrushchev agreed to withdraw the missiles from Cuba.

Khrushchev was lucky Kennedy’s back was out that week.

108 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:48:02pm

re: #102 darthstar

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Oh, hell, I’ve got that beat. I’m the Worst Person In History, worse even than Hitler!!! because I brought reason and fact to bear on a wingnut in an argument.

109 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:50:17pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

Water is finally reaching the southern New Mexican portion of the Rio Grande:

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A few hundred miles north, it’s almost at flood stage.

112 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:56:31pm

re: #110 Kragar

Fox’s Ablow Links Video Games And Mass Shootings: “Guns Are Irrelevant To This Problem”

Sure. Mind you, other countries with lots fewer guns, much less freely available also have a whole generation of young men playing these very same violent video games and NOT killing a couple dozen people at a time. But it couldn’t be the guns. Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along….

That asshole makes me want to strike Ablow for freedom.

113 Kragar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:58:15pm

re: #112 GeneJockey

Sure. Mind you, other countries with lots fewer guns, much less freely available also have a whole generation of young men playing these very same violent video games and NOT killing a couple dozen people at a time. But it couldn’t be the guns. Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along….

That asshole makes me want to strike Ablow for freedom.

Look at all those mass shootings plaguing Japan right now…

FUCK.

114 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 2:59:58pm

Oh goody. Pay up, Palin.

Sarah Palin, PAC Group Sued Over Use of Sept. 11 Photo

bloomberg.com

Fundraising letters going out as we speak.

115 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:01:31pm

re: #113 Kragar

Look at all those mass shootings plaguing Japan right now…

FUCK.

The VERY SAME DAY as Sandy Hook, a guy in China went crazy and stabbed almost as many people as Lanza shot!!!!

Okay, yeah, THEY all survived. But still!!!!

116 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:02:41pm

re: #114 Justanotherhuman

Oh goody. Pay up, Palin.

Sarah Palin, PAC Group Sued Over Use of Sept. 11 Photo

bloomberg.com

Fundraising letters going out as we speak.

Funny how Conservatives are so free to steal others’ intellectual property, ain’t it?

117 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:06:05pm

Thanks for WHAT?

118 EmmaAnne  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:06:28pm

re: #20 erik_t

In other news, have we heard from the Colorado contingent of lizardland? Scary looking stuff coming out of Boulder, etc.

The metro areas are a mess, but fairly functional and improving (assuming more rain doesn’t hit while the ground is still soaked and the rivers are full). The places that are in terrible shape are mostly the mountains towns. Towns like Estes Park, Big Elk Meadows, and Lyons are unreachable and have to be evacuated by helicopter. Some of the roads are destroyed, not just blocked with debris or covered in water. I don’t know how some of them will recover.

119 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:07:04pm

Wingnut Twitter photo FAIL

120 jaunte  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:08:51pm

re: #119 Vicious Babushka

Reagan just mounted the umbrella in his shoulder socket, keeping his hands free.

121 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:09:13pm

re: #110 Kragar

Fox’s Ablow Links Video Games And Mass Shootings: “Guns Are Irrelevant To This Problem”

Yes, because, as a gamer, I can materialize firearms out of thin air!
In real life no less!

122 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:09:32pm

re: #116 GeneJockey

Funny how Conservatives are so free to steal others’ intellectual property, ain’t it?

Yeah, this is a woman who trademarked her own name. And so did her equally talentless daughter.

123 EmmaAnne  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:09:57pm

The other sad story of the floods (so far) is the two kids who were swept away and killed in Boulder. They were eighteen, just out of high school, and the young man was killed trying to save his girlfriend. I believe they were trying to drive away.

I grew up in the mountains, and was told more times than I can count to climb when there is flooding. But I think the kids in the cities don’t really get this, especially so long after the Big Thomson flood in the seventies.

124 Mattand  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:09:58pm

re: #110 Kragar

Fox’s Ablow Links Video Games And Mass Shootings: “Guns Are Irrelevant To This Problem”

If that we’re actually true, based on all of the Team Fortress 2 I’ve played lately, I’d have wiped out the entire state of Delaware by now.

125 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:10:57pm
126 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:11:04pm

re: #124 Mattand

If that we’re actually true, based on all of the Team Fortress 2 I’ve played lately, I’d have wiped out the entire state of Delaware by now.

Shit, I’d have blown up the solar system ages ago.

127 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:14:38pm

All my really important revolutionary communications are buried in investment opportunities from Nigeria.

128 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:16:11pm

re: #127 Decatur Deb

All my really important revolutionary communications are buried in investment opportunities from Nigeria.

Mine are in random lotteries from Hong Kong.
I keep winning those for some reason.

129 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:17:06pm

re: #121 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Yes, because, as a gamer, I can materialize firearms out of thin air!
In real life no less!

Hammerspace.

130 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:17:19pm

re: #128 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Mine are in random lotteries from Hong Kong.
I keep winning those for some reason.

“Congratulations. You are the 100,000th jihadist confronting the infidel.”

131 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:19:29pm

re: #110 Kragar

Fox’s Ablow Links Video Games And Mass Shootings: “Guns Are Irrelevant To This Problem”

Yes, because hours of playing Skyrim have given me the urge to put on a horned helmet, take up my sword, and go digging through caves for bandits to look for gold and enchanted weapons. Still working on my Thu’um though.

//

132 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:20:44pm
133 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:23:48pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

Yes, because hours of playing Skyrim have given me the urge to put on a horned helmet, take up my sword, and go digging through caves for bandits to look for gold and enchanted weapons. Still working on my Thu’um though.

//

Minecraft has resulted in me punching trees down to cube form.

134 Targetpractice  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:26:58pm

re: #133 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Minecraft has resulted in me punching trees down to cube form.

Fallout has me hoarding bottlecaps, so that I’ll have a fortune after the bombs fall.

135 Jack Burton  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:30:31pm

re: #131 Targetpractice

Yes, because hours of playing Skyrim have given me the urge to put on a horned helmet, take up my sword, and go digging through caves for bandits to look for gold and enchanted weapons. Still working on my Thu’um though.

//

I used to think like that too, until I took an arrow in the knee.

136 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:36:20pm
137 CuriousLurker  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:36:31pm

To all who are observing Yom Kippur: Tzom kal, g’mar chatima tova.

138 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:36:45pm

re: #135 Jack Burton

I used to think like that too, until I took an arrow in the knee.

Strun Bah Qo!

139 erik_t  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:38:02pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

Better than Tora Bora at night.

140 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:40:39pm
141 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:40:48pm

re: #139 erik_t

Better than Tora Bora at night.

Quieter, anyway.

142 EmmaAnne  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:41:01pm

Here is a road leading to Lyons:

denverpost.com

Here is one leading to Nederland:

Image: 20130912_011316_CDOT%20flood%20damage_400.jpg

And these are the paved highways. The dirt roads are just washed away.

143 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:41:40pm

I seem to have picked up a penis-focused GG fanboi.

144 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:41:49pm

Bora Bora
Tora Bora
Tora Tora

you’re trying to confuse me, aren’t you

145 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:45:09pm

re: #144 dog philosopher

Bora Bora
Tora Bora
Tora Tora

you’re trying to confuse me, aren’t you

Image: 220px-ToraToraTora1970.png

146 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:45:27pm

re: #139 erik_t

Better than Tora Bora at night.

That’s the travel glitch that got Osama killed.

147 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:46:01pm

re: #143 darthstar

WTF. None of these idiots realize you cannot get any sort of welfare without a job do they? You have to work and make less than a teeny little amount, you can only collect it for a total of five years your whole adult life and you don’t just get a giant check each month. Maybe if this assclown focused on reading something besides dick related material he’d know that.

148 bratwurst  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:53:25pm
149 Amory Blaine  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:54:41pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

Hatred is more important than truth.

150 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:55:01pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

WTF. None of these idiots realize you cannot get any sort of welfare without a job do they? You have to work and make less than a teeny little amount, you can only collect it for a total of five years your whole adult life and you don’t just get a giant check each month. Maybe if this assclown focused on reading something besides dick related material he’d know that.

don’t forget that when a certain party described 47% of americans doing nothing but sitting around on their patooties collecting welfare checks, there were millions of people who accepted this as reality

by the way, if any of them are listening, my name is Ronald G. Waterstone and I am Head of Security Heathrow Airport London England. I am writing you in regard to a package that has been left in our Unclaimed Luggage depot…

151 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:55:33pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

He’s just a dudebro flexing his internet muscles.

152 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 3:59:45pm

re: #147 A Mom Anon

WTF. None of these idiots realize you cannot get any sort of welfare without a job do they? You have to work and make less than a teeny little amount, you can only collect it for a total of five years your whole adult life and you don’t just get a giant check each month. Maybe if this assclown focused on reading something besides dick related material he’d know that.

Silly MomAnon, bringing facts and reason into it!
//

153 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:00:13pm

re: #151 darthstar

He’s just a dudebro flexing his internet muscles.

Let me flex mine.
Image: the-internet-has-spoken.jpg

154 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:01:38pm

cenegenics ads want to sell me a $4k package that will turn me into a hulk cartoon with a mr magoo head sitting on a bike no hell’s angel would be caught dead in

155 Balfour Rage  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:01:54pm
156 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:02:05pm

re: #143 darthstar

I seem to have picked up a penis-focused GG fanboi.

[Embedded content]

The interesting thing is the assumption that the only people who hold different opinions from his must be on government assistance.

157 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:02:55pm

re: #154 dog philosopher

cenegenics ads want to sell me a $4k package that will turn me into a hulk cartoon with a mr magoo head sitting on a bike no hell’s angel would be caught dead in

Image: cenegenics_progress_400.png

158 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:03:00pm

re: #155 Balfour Rage

[Embedded content]

So, he thinks his God wouldn’t let us poop in our own pool?

159 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:04:01pm

re: #157 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Image: cenegenics_progress_400.png

“‘Double my IQ, or no money back?’ Okay, sounds good to me!”

160 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:04:18pm

re: #155 Balfour Rage

[Embedded content]

Like he stopped us from putting that big ass hole in the ozone?

161 Balfour Rage  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:04:55pm

How was your day, honey? BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!!

162 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:05:15pm

re: #160 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Like he stopped us from putting that big ass hole in the ozone?

There’s a big asshole in the ozone?
//

163 prairiefire  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:07:05pm

Happy Friday, lizards!

164 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:07:09pm

These floods are pretty awful.

4 killed, 80 unaccounted for in Colorado floods

9news.com

Also saw a heartbreaking photo of cattle huddled together that had to be left behind, but can’t find it now.

165 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:08:36pm

re: #162 GeneJockey

There’s a big asshole in the ozone?
//

glen beck has to do something with his time on the weekends

166 abolitionist  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:09:31pm

Re: #125 Charles
Just had another 40-minute Internet outage. [snip]

About noon EST, I noticed that jquery.com had “moved temporarily”, and that gstatic.com had “moved permanently”.

Whole lota shakin’ going on. (LGF still not normal here.)

167 psddluva4evah  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:12:41pm
168 psddluva4evah  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:14:30pm
169 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:17:18pm

re: #168 psddluva4evah

Wait, McCain will write op-ed for Russian newspaper

Oh Lord, This Will Not End Well!

but will they publish it only in english or translate it into commie talk so rooshians can read it?

170 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:21:16pm
171 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:22:22pm

re: #137 CuriousLurker

To all who are observing Yom Kippur: Tzom kal, g’mar chatima tova.

Thank you so much!!!

I’m signing off now.

172 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:24:14pm

So, next week I’m going to the bicycle trade show in Las Vegas. There’s going to be a ‘women’s lounge’ (and a triathlete’s lounge, and more for other ‘interest groups’) but I couldn’t find it on the floor map. So I emailed its sponsor, who told me where to look. I found it, right across the aisle from FAP.

O-:

It’s a Hong Kong company that needs to hire a couple of native English speakers.

FAP was conceived and founded in 2009. FAP uses Aluminium as our core element to execute our concept of understated designs for everyday use to cosmopolitan dwellers.

173 GeneJockey  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:28:59pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

So, next week I’m going to the bicycle trade show in Las Vegas. There’s going to be a ‘women’s lounge’ (and a triathlete’s lounge, and more for other ‘interest groups’) but I couldn’t find it on the floor map. So I emailed its sponsor, who told me where to look. I found it, right across the aisle from FAP.

O-:

It’s a Taiwanese company that needs to hire a couple of native English speakers.

That’s odd. Seems like most fappers on bikes are riding steel fixies, not aluminum.
//

174 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:29:22pm
175 abolitionist  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:42:22pm

I’ll try LGF later. Right now, Waiting for code.jquery.com… is displaying at lower left, the spinner won’t stop, and I can’t display comments now, altho I did manage to logon earlier.

176 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:45:43pm

re: #169 dog philosopher

but will they publish it only in english or translate it into commie talk so rooshians can read it?

But McCain isn’t the President.

People will remember that.

177 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:46:38pm

re: #175 abolitionist

I’ll try LGF later. Right now, Waiting for code.jquery.com… is displaying at lower left, the spinner won’t stop, and I can’t display comments now, altho I did manage to logon earlier.

linking code libraries in from other people’s servers is an insane practice

it seems everybody does it these days

178 OhNoZombies!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 4:56:46pm


By 2016, i should be really really skinny…
//

179 Stanley Sea  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:03:26pm

Soylent Green on TCM!

180 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:06:06pm

re: #179 Stanley Sea

Soylent Green on TCM!

It’s people!

181 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:07:52pm
182 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:09:25pm

re: #176 Justanotherhuman

But McCain isn’t the President.

People will remember that.

Sshhh. We’ve been keeping it from him.

183 Arrrr, matey!  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:28:28pm

re: #182 Decatur Deb

Sshhh. We’ve been keeping it from him.

Why you kill thread?!

184 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:34:59pm

re: #183 Pavlovian Hive Mind

Why you kill thread?!

thread him no serve beer

me want beer

185 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:39:44pm

mistah thread he dead

186 Laura (Beulahmo)  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:45:17pm

re: #96 A Mom Anon

That’s what annoys me too — that their antics are ineffectual. I mean, who the hell LIKES government secrecy? Their posturing and condescension is insufferable because they talk to you as if it never occurred to you to not LIKE it. WTF?? And no matter how many times you tell them “No, I don’t like it but I don’t *expect* to,” it simply does not penetrate their skulls.

Conor Friedersdorf approached me on Twitter to argue about President Obama’s “extra-judicial” killing of U.S. citizens (al-Awlaki). I told him his position was dishonest because he was trying to impose civilian due process into a war context, and because he didn’t offer a plausible alternative. That pretty much ended the discussion.

And so, that’s how to end a discussion with these maddening people — ask them what their plausible alternative course of action is, make them defend it, and don’t let them deflect and derail the discussion.

187 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:45:19pm

Redeem the thread.

Youtube Video

188 Stanley Sea  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:46:07pm

Tell me about Uber…

189 dog philosopher  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 5:48:45pm

Twitter allows a single “Promoted Trend” to sit above the other nine. According to a source, brands are asked to pay $200,000 a day in the U.S. if they want to feature a trend - usually a hashtag - of their choice.

silly me, i’m so Old Skool trying to sell a product

190 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:07:57pm

re: #186 Laura

LOL. That works on conservatives too. Only conservatives yell more and call you nastier names before they flounce. I think for a lot of the”professional” left, it’s about the $$$ too and they take themselves WAY to damned seriously. And only THEY know what’s best for the country and how to fix things and blah,blah, ack.

191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:11:55pm

Samuel L. Jackson delivers a Walter White line from Breaking Bad.

Youtube Video

You’re the weak. And I am the tyranny of evil men.

192 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:13:31pm

Birthers, truthers, creationist fools, militia fatties and now (for the love of God) Kremlin sympathizers. The right-wing has turned into quite a zoo. This reflects a dangerous level of desperation among the patriarchal/bigot elements of the population. They realize they can never achieve the kind of society they want, established religion and a consequent freedom to pillage and exploit, unless they first destroy the existing order and re-build from scratch.

193 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:16:30pm

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

It’s people!

Soylent Green crackers, it’s people…..food.

194 wrenchwench  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:16:54pm

Perspective.


And another comment on that article.


Later, lizards.

195 darthstar  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:20:49pm

Fortunately, the default for vines is muted.

196 Good Morning  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:22:59pm

“In Barrons”

The article is a book review about war powers. When you said Truther I was hoping for a new building 7 collapse theory.

198 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:27:13pm

Coming to theaters this fall…

The ultimate in extreme law enforcement…

He’s a douchebag and a police officer all rolled into one…

He is…DUDEBROCOP

199 Bubblehead II  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:29:01pm

I came, I saw, I refeained.

Night Lizards. May the Diiety of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

Sleep well.

200 A Mom Anon  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 6:35:39pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

The thing is they have no ideas that could possibly work, even on a small scale, like in a family, let alone for a country. Plus it’s work, a lot of work to run a nation, and that’s not exactly their strong suit, despite all their ranting about who the makers and takers are. And even if they did manage to create the monster they envision as paradise, even THEY wouldn’t be able to stand it. It would be miserable.

I’m totally freaked right the fuck out about this love for Putin and his actions against his own people. It wasn’t that damned long ago that Russia was an enemy and an example of all kinds of failure. They hate Obama more than they love America, it’s really the only explanation that even remotely makes sense.

201 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 7:07:27pm

re: #186 Laura (Beulahmo)

Hi Laura. It’s Ben. How you doing. Is my father there?

202 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Sep 13, 2013 9:18:15pm

re: #155 Balfour Rage

It’s dumb, dumb, dumb to think we can take control of climate from God: t.co via @youtube

— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 13, 2013

Following this reasoning, replace “climate” with “illness,” “epidemic,” “flood control,” or “disaster relief,” and see what Bryan’s response would be. Would he let God decide whether he survives a burst appendix or a heart attack? How about malaria or Hepatitis? Should we abolish the Army Corps of Engineers, or open up all the dams? Do away with the Red Cross and FEMA?

Fucking idiot.


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