greenman3610We’re seeing an onslaught of misinformation on climate in the build up to the new Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change release later this week.
Here’s some truth to push back.
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John Vreeland Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:22:26am |
The thermal surplus that is currently heating the globe is tiny but it is very unlikely to change very much from one year to the next. The heat is always going somewhere. Perhaps it is busy melting ice, or heating the oceans, but the extra heat is always here, every day. And it doesn’t change except to grow larger.
It would take something powerful and unusual to affect the heat flow on a short-term basis. A volcanic eruption can do it by blanketing the earth in reflective aerosols, but that obviously does not happen every year.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:26:04am |
re: #1 John Vreeland
The thermal surplus that is currently heating the globe is tiny but it is very unlikely to change very much from one year to the next. The heat is always going somewhere. Perhaps it is busy melting ice, or heating the oceans, but the extra heat is always here, every day. And it doesn’t change except to grow larger.
It would take something powerful and unusual to affect the heat flow on a short-term basis. A volcanic eruption can do it by blanketing the earth in reflective aerosols, but that obviously does not happen every year.
Well put.
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EmmaAnne Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:39:58am |
I don’t know if the recent record flooding in my area was related to global warming. Colorado is known for crazy weather - maybe it was just a new crazy thing. But aren’t there an awful lot of extreme weather events lately? Tornados, hurricanes, draught, flooding?
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piratedan Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:42:11am |
re: #3 EmmaAnne
well Emma, isn’t this like the 2nd time for 100 year flooding in the last five years? Just eerily reminiscent of the flooding that Fort Collins went thru a couple years back. My worry is, is that this will be less and less commonplace and people are going to have issues adjusting to the “new normal”.
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Eclectic Cyborg Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:45:04am |
This guy actually IS a rocket scientist.
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:55:15am |
re: #3 EmmaAnne
I don’t know if the recent record flooding in my area was related to global warming. Colorado is known for crazy weather - maybe it was just a new crazy thing. But aren’t there an awful lot of extreme weather events lately? Tornados, hurricanes, draught, flooding?
Moisture content of air make a difference in severity. Heat content changes jet stream placement.
CC is likely to increase the incidence of 1 in a 100 year storms (for example)
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Carlos Danger Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:07:17am |
Germany’s public broadcaster just announced Merkel’s CDU/CSU has won a absolute majority in the Bundestag.
Greece am cry
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:07:27am |
OT, but for those interested, I just created a page for the 2013 German elections here: littlegreenfootballs.com
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:09:40am |
This doesn’t sound good…
1707: “We fear the death toll… it could be much, much higher than what we have, judging from the bodies sighted inside,” a police officer is quoted by AFP as saying.
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Dr Lizardo Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:10:07am |
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Justanotherhuman Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:10:39am |
Summer in NC this year reflected the “noise” on climate change mentioned in the video, “unseasonably” mild and seems autumn may follow the same pattern.
Very instructive, BTW, and wonderful to hear sound scientific facts and reasoning instead of screaming, blithering idiots in total denial of what we as a species are doing to our own nest.
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Justanotherhuman Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:20:39am |
Not good.
Mortar round lands in Russian Embassy in Damascus
Nothing on which faction might have done this.
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Carlos Danger Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:21:39am |
re: #12 Justanotherhuman
But but but The Farmer’s Almanac!
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Varek Raith Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:22:44am |
re: #14 Carlos Danger
But but but The Farmer’s Almanac!
I knew they were bunk in elementary school.
Busy winter my ass….
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missliberties Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:23:52am |
Is it just me, but aren’t we really past the point of no return? I would say yes we are.
In the interest of staying alive & healthy, shouldn’t we all want to pursue ways of keeping our environment clean and fresh?
Instead of climate change, you say, “Clean water, good fishing and fresh air and mainstays of traditional societial family values.” you get a better response.
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Justanotherhuman Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:26:26am |
re: #16 missliberties
What is this “traditional societal family values” of which you speak?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:29:08am |
re: #13 Justanotherhuman
Not good.
Mortar round lands in Russian Embassy in Damascus
hosted.ap.org
Nothing on which faction might have done this.
I suspect the faction with the best aim is probably responsible.
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Carlos Danger Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:30:20am |
re: #15 Arrrr, matey!
My local rag paper devoted an entire front page article to that junk.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:30:33am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:32:11am |
re: #13 Justanotherhuman
Not good.
Mortar round lands in Russian Embassy in Damascus
Nothing on which faction might have done this.
Dear Vlad
Ooopppsss,,,
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:32:30am |
re: #16 missliberties
Is it just me, but aren’t we really past the point of no return? I would say yes we are.
In the interest of staying alive & healthy, shouldn’t we all want to pursue ways of keeping our environment clean and fresh?
Instead of climate change, you say, “Clean water, good fishing and fresh air and mainstays of traditional societial family values.” you get a better response.
We’re at the point where stabilization is all we can hope for.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:34:11am |
re: #20 sattv4u2
A number of hostages and an unknown number of attackers remain trapped inside as security forces try to end the siege.
troubling that the authorities don’t know how many they’re dealing with
I think the Israelis are helping out but last time I was in Kenya police looked poorly trained and poorly equipped. I doubt that has changed much.
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Justanotherhuman Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:38:48am |
re: #23 Killgore Trout
Kenya police commissioner Johnston Kavuludi sent severed head
“A box containing the head and two human hands covered in blood also had the message: “Kavuludi, you are next”.
(snip)
“The BBC’s Gabriel Gatehouse in Nairobi says the incident appears to show that, in some quarters at least, opposition to reforming Kenya’s police runs deep.
“He says Kenya’s officers are often described as among the most corrupt in the region.”
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Killgore Trout Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:42:16am |
re: #24 Justanotherhuman
Kenya police commissioner Johnston Kavuludi sent severed head
“A box containing the head and two human hands covered in blood also had the message: “Kavuludi, you are next”.
(snip)
“The BBC’s Gabriel Gatehouse in Nairobi says the incident appears to show that, in some quarters at least, opposition to reforming Kenya’s police runs deep.
“He says Kenya’s officers are often described as among the most corrupt in the region.”
yikes!
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wrenchwench Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:48:02am |
How will we defeat the Japanese next time?
Android users can now text each other in Navajo thanks to a new app.
KUNM-FM reports that the company Native Innovations recently released the Navajo Keyboard app to allow smart phone users to practice their skills in the Native American language through text messaging and social media.
The new app comes loaded with all of the traditional Navajo characters and 65 pre-made phrases to help beginners through any basic conversation.[…]
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:48:19am |
re: #24 Justanotherhuman
A box containing the head and two human hands covered in blood also had the message: “Kavuludi, you are next”.
The police say they are interpreting it as a death threat.
ya think!?!?!
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Ming Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:49:27am |
re: #3 EmmaAnne
I don’t know if the recent record flooding in my area was related to global warming. Colorado is known for crazy weather - maybe it was just a new crazy thing. But aren’t there an awful lot of extreme weather events lately? Tornados, hurricanes, draught, flooding?
I assume that Hurricane Sandy, impacting Manhattan and other areas, is an example of this. I’m no expert, but it’s safe to say that to have a hurricane in North America, off the Atlantic Ocean, you need warm air. That’s why we have hurricanes in South Carolina, but not Maine. Well, maybe Maine should be “not yet”. The Atlantic Seabord isn’t exempt from global warming, so we will, unfortunately, see hurricanes that hit further north than we’re accustomed to.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:52:45am |
re: #28 Ming
That’s why we have hurricanes in South Carolina, but not Maine.
Born, raised and spent most of the 1st 45 years of my life in/ around Boston
I recall having hurricanes there, and they would hit the coasts of both New Hampshire and Maine after passing through Mass, although with lessened strength by the time they would hit Portland
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Ming Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:57:58am |
re: #29 sattv4u2
I stand corrected! I didn’t know that hurricanes made it so far up north, “in the old days”. I lived near Boston for a few years in the 1970’s, and I must say, the Boston weather was so full of surprises, if we had a hurricane I may not have noticed!
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Lidane Sun, Sep 22, 2013 10:59:42am |
re: #16 missliberties
Instead of climate change, you say, “Clean water, good fishing and fresh air and mainstays of traditional societial family values.” you get a better response.
That would be fine, except the retrograde imbeciles in the GOP are against the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and their idea of “mainstays of traditional societial family values” would send us back to the Dark Ages.
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wrenchwench Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:02:55am |
Hitting the road.
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Political Atheist Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:03:21am |
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:08:51am |
re: #31 Lidane
That would be fine, except the retrograde imbeciles in the GOP are against the Clean Air and Clean Water acts, and their idea of “mainstays of traditional societial family values” would send us back to the Dark Ages.
You do know that the EPA was formed under the Nixon admin and the original Clean Air Act was signed by him, right?
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Lidane Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:10:16am |
re: #34 sattv4u2
You do know that the EPA was formed under the Nixon admin and the original Clean Air Act was signed by him, right?
Yes. I also know that Nixon would be conisdered a commie sympathizer and a RINO in today’s GOP, so the point stands.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:12:00am |
re: #35 Lidane
Yes. I also know that Nixon would be conisdered a commie sympathizer and a RINO in today’s GOP, so the point stands.
based on ,,,, ????
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b_sharp Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:12:40am |
re: #34 sattv4u2
You do know that the EPA was formed under the Nixon admin and the original Clean Air Act was signed by him, right?
We be talkin current GOP not past GOP.
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CuriousLurker Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:13:41am |
OT Drive-by:
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Lidane Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:14:32am |
re: #36 sattv4u2
based on ,,,, ????
Based on the fact that the teabaggers and Paultards in the GOP hate Nixon. Here, I’ll let World Nut Daily explain it to you:
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Carlos Danger Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:14:53am |
re: #34 sattv4u2
Yeah, but the Republican co-author of the Endangered Species Act changed his party affiliation, and administrators like Russell E. Train are nonexistent nowadays.
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:19:12am |
re: #38 CuriousLurker
I love those Aerial America shows, about the best thing on that channel. I just saw the Maine one the other night.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:19:48am |
Friend just posted on Facebook that an American has been killed in the Kenya Mall attack, one American woman, the wife of a US diplomat working for USAID
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sattv4u2 Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:20:19am |
re: #41 A Mom Anon
I love those Aerial America shows, about the best thing on that channel. I just saw the Maine one the other night.
Maine has some AMAZING and very varied topography
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Interesting Times Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:23:29am |
re: #39 Lidane
Based on the fact that the teabaggers and Paultards in the GOP hate Nixon.
They also hate Teddy Roosevelt, because national parks are a progressive-socialist concept that should be opened up to Real American™ oil drilling
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A Mom Anon Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:25:44am |
re: #34 sattv4u2
I’d like to know what the GOP has done that might conserve the environment in say, oh, just the last 20 yrs. Actual stuff that doesn’t have a happy sounding name that does the opposite of what it says. If anything they seem to be working to undo that in the name of “freedom!” to free industry to dump crap wherever they want and pay no price for it. Deregulation seems to be job #1 and anyone who disagrees is a liberal commie treehugger who doesn’t bathe. I’ll give Nixon his due on this, but the party has gone completely off track with their current stances on having some rules in place so we don’t become a giant toxic dump site.
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Carlos Danger Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:26:42am |
John Muir and Teddy Roosevelt:
Image: theodore-roosevelt-yosemite.jpg
But Nixon was 40 years ago. Almost a lifetime.
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Lidane Sun, Sep 22, 2013 11:28:42am |
re: #44 Interesting Times
They also hate Teddy Roosevelt, because national parks are a progressive-socialist concept that should be opened up to Real AmericanTM oil drilling
We need to dismantle all the national parks and DRILL BABY DRILL!
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