Popular Science: Why We’re Shutting Off Our Comments

Essentially because they are tired of dealing with the bullshit coming from the anti-science right wing
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A politically motivated, decades-long war on expertise has eroded the popular consensus on a wide variety of scientifically validated topics. Everything, from evolution to the origins of climate change, is mistakenly up for grabs again. Scientific certainty is just another thing for two people to “debate” on television. And because comments sections tend to be a grotesque reflection of the media culture surrounding them, the cynical work of undermining bedrock scientific doctrine is now being done beneath our own stories, within a website devoted to championing science.

More: Why We’re Shutting Off Our Comments

At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone on the right started a drive to change the name of the publication to Unpopular Science.

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466 comments
1 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:13:48pm

Durr hurr, proof we’re right cuz your not willing to debate us!!!1!

/trolls

2 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:15:15pm
3 brennant  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:18:39pm

I applaud the move.

4 b.d.  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:19:03pm

One well placed bible verse as an answer shuts up those scientists every single time!

5 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:19:47pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

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“Defundung”

- contents of Ted Cruz speech?

6 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:22:33pm

One can hardly blame them. The anti-science Drive-by Chair Force makes reading comments (rants, obfuscations, whatever) pointless.

7 erik_t  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:23:24pm

I’ve long considered Popular Science to be barely more worthwhile than science reporting in mainstream newspapers and magazines. This decision is a small step back towards legitimacy, but it’s a step in the right direction nonetheless.

8 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:25:53pm
9 Zombie Mutt  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:32:08pm

Science? There is no Science. There is only faith. Welcome to the New Middle Age courtesy of your local moron.

10 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:32:59pm

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

11 jhrhv  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:38:16pm

Sad that instant worldwide open communication has progressed to a point where it needs to be shutdown due to a case of severe douche bag.

12 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:38:45pm

re: #10 darthstar

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Do you expect me to lie down sideways to look at that?

13 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:39:26pm

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

Do you expect me to lie down sideways to look at that?

Lying down vertically would be impressive.

14 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:39:30pm
15 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:42:51pm

There is an alternative to shutting down comments, but it doesn’t seem to be very popular at corporate websites because it means risking being unpopular — set policies about what’s acceptable and strictly enforce them, including the follow-up work to make sure trolls don’t simply re-register. And don’t be afraid of the fallout.

16 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:43:45pm

re: #9 nines09

Science? There is no Science. There is only faith. Welcome to the New Middle Age courtesy of your local moron.

The new GOPopular Science will contain more topical articles and cover important areas such as dowsing, witchfinding, and proper selection of sticks for keeping your unruly rabble under control.
/

17 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:44:02pm

Rabbit farts to follow

18 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:44:11pm

Wingnuts Of The World Unite!

A Russian parents’ committee has asked President Vladimir Putin to cancel a planned concert by gay musician Elton John, saying he intended to violate a ban on “homosexual propaganda.”

In an open letter to Putin, the local parents’ group in central Ural region was reported by media as saying: “The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites and break the current Russian law, directed at protecting children.”

worldnews.nbcnews.com

19 jhrhv  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:49:18pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

You are of course correct. I suppose rather than put in the effort and risk the fallout it’s easier to just shut off comments for some.

I’ve noticed on some news “paper” sites comments are either being not added to stories or are being shutdown not long after articles are posted.

20 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:49:53pm

Step in if you own it, take charge, do what you believe is right, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

Just sayin’.

21 b.d.  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:54:13pm

re: #18 dog philosopher

Wingnuts Of The World Unite!

A Russian parents’ committee has asked President Vladimir Putin to cancel a planned concert by gay musician Elton John, saying he intended to violate a ban on “homosexual propaganda.”

In an open letter to Putin, the local parents’ group in central Ural region was reported by media as saying: “The singer intends to come out in support of local sodomites and break the current Russian law, directed at protecting children.”

worldnews.nbcnews.com

Give ‘em Hell Elton! Either way the wingnuts just lost on this one.

22 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 5:59:06pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

Step in if you own it, take charge, do what you believe is right, damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead.

Just sayin’.

I have no idea how a newspaper could moderate comments given the amount of content every day. At least PopSci has a limited number of articles in their twelve annual issues. Should be doable.

23 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:00:12pm

basically, the way the right wing is learning how to be internet savvy and leverage social media is TO BE A GIANT MULTIHEADED TROLL

24 Interesting Times  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:03:27pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

basically, the way the right wing is learning how to be internet savvy and leverage social media is TO BE A GIANT MULTIHEADED TROLL

It’s the Internet equivalent of people who brag their farts could clear a room… o_O

25 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:07:25pm

Funny what people like/don’t like. 14 RTs and counting for…this:

26 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:08:45pm
27 GeneJockey  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:09:26pm

Jesus, this macro’s taking forever. I suppose if I didn’t have 15 other Excel files, 15 Powerpoints, 30 PDFs, 7 Word documents, 8 Firefox windows, and 24 Outlook messages all open, things might go faster. But then I’d have to make choices.

28 b.d.  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:10:26pm

re: #26 darthstar

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I bet Durbin is trying to make Cruz cuss at him

29 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:10:27pm

This will piss off wingnuts more than anything - a road toward a diplomatic solution instead of war.

30 jhrhv  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:13:05pm

re: #27 GeneJockey

If you worked in my office you would be given a less powerful machine that doesn’t meet your work requirements. You don’t need the proper tools to do the job you need be managed more effectively. Process meeting to discus scheduled during lunch hour where you will be ignored. :)

31 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:13:26pm

re: #27 GeneJockey

Jesus, this macro’s taking forever. I suppose if I didn’t have 15 other Excel files, 15 Powerpoints, 30 PDFs, 7 Word documents, 8 Firefox windows, and 24 Outlook messages all open, things might go faster. But then I’d have to make choices.

it’s the nine ladies dancing and the four calling birds that really eat up the RAM

32 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:14:57pm

re: #25 darthstar

Funny what people like/don’t like. 14 RTs and counting for…this:

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Succinct.

33 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:19:10pm
34 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:24:22pm
35 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:24:34pm
36 jhrhv  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:27:24pm

Someone should be moderating comments at the senate. If that doesn’t work just shut down commenting.

/

37 Belafon  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:30:26pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

You also have to pay people to do that.

38 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:31:02pm

Sorry, Ted. World Series of Poker is on. This, unlike your personal grandstanding, is actually important.

39 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:32:46pm

Some irrational exuberance going on.

40 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:33:13pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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41 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:33:23pm
42 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:34:14pm

re: #38 darthstar

Sorry, Ted. World Series of Poker is on. This, unlike your personal grandstanding, is actually important.

Agents of SHIELD was awesome. Fits right into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. I’m a fan. Also, I have my theory about Coulson now.

He’s a Life Model Decoy and doesn’t know it. They gave him all of the real Coulson’s memories and personality, but the real man died when Loki shanked him in The Avengers.

43 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:34:24pm

This image never felt more appropriate than with Ted Cruz:

Image: theproperresponsetowingnuts.jpg

44 jhrhv  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:36:28pm

re: #43 Internet Tough Guy

I think I have that on a shirt. Also have the one that says:

Sorry I can’t fix stupid.

45 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:37:28pm

re: #42 Lidane

Not on until 8:00 PST.

46 GeneJockey  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:38:38pm

FINALLY!!!! You wouldn’t think it would take that long to heatmap 983052 cells on a spreadsheet.

47 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:39:16pm

Ted Cruz has that fake preacher-humble facial expression down pat.

48 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:40:02pm

Because there hasn’t been enough fuckery from the GOP:

49 Zombie Mutt  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:42:56pm

Why does the GOP hate America?

50 darthstar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:43:00pm
51 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:43:49pm

re: #49 nines09

Why does the GOP hate America?

America might take the Precious out of their pocketses.

52 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:45:25pm

re: #51 jaunte

America might take the Precious out of their pocketses.

it’s so hard to find good oligarchies these days

53 Zombie Mutt  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:45:39pm

re: #51 jaunte

I think it’s deeper than that.

54 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:49:34pm

Can’t take any more Ted Cruz. I tried. But that shit is toxic.

55 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:50:28pm
56 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:51:32pm

Tomorrow morning, one compact car is going to pull up in front of Congress and all the GOP senators will come piling out.

57 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:51:33pm
58 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:51:34pm

re: #54 Charles Johnson

Can’t take any more Ted Cruz. I tried. But that shit is toxic.

I didn’t bother. It’s not like he’s going to stop the vote tomorrow anyway.

Much more fun to spend time fangirling Marvel and Joss Whedon. Heh.

59 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:53:28pm
60 Belafon  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:55:16pm

re: #58 Lidane

I think Coulson was having a lot of fun. I thought the interrogation twist was pretty funny.

61 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:56:22pm

re: #60 Belafon

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease, not all Lizards live on the East Coast. Careful what’s said!

62 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 6:58:33pm


Because not being able to force people to live by your rules is oppression.

63 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:01:01pm

re: #61 klys

Yep. Spoiler tags in effect for two more hours.

64 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:01:50pm

Trailer for the new South Park:
Cartman develops an app called “Shitter” which will send his thoughts directly from his brain to Teh Internets, because the government isn’t respecting his privacy.
South Park Video

65 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:01:52pm

re: #63 Lidane

Yep. Spoiler tags in effect for two more hours.

It is appreciated - I don’t ask for it beyond where it has at least aired in my time zone!

66 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:02:48pm

re: #65 klys

It is appreciated - I don’t ask for it beyond where it has at least aired in my time zone!

BRUCE WILLIS WAS DEAD THE WHOLE TIME?!?!

67 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:03:39pm

re: #66 Kragar

BRUCE WILLIS WAS DEAD THE WHOLE TIME?!?!

Guess that means we all see dead people.

68 b.d.  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:03:55pm

re: #66 Kragar

BRUCE WILLIS WAS DEAD THE WHOLE TIME?!?!

BREAKING: Rosebud was a sled.

69 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:04:16pm

re: #66 Kragar

The aliens could be defeated with a garden hose!

70 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:04:18pm

re: #67 klys

Guess that means we all see dead people.

Next, you’re going to tell me DiCaprio can’t save the fucking boat.

71 b.d.  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:04:24pm

re: #67 klys

Guess that means we all see dead people.

Because Ted Cruz is killing us?

72 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:06:00pm
73 Belafon  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:09:01pm

re: #61 klys

I won’t give any real details out at all. Promise. I will only use words like twist and surprise. Maybe smurfy.

74 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:11:00pm
75 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:11:10pm

The Alex Jones effect: Man tells Rep. Moran that ‘Bohemians’ in Congress are linked to Hitler

During a call-in segment on C-SPAN’s Wasington Journal, a Florida man calling on the “independent” line said he had some questions about “what’s been going around on YouTube and just basically most of the conspiracy-wide Internet websites.”

“As a young individual, I’m 21 years of age and it came to me as kind of a shock that a lot of people are talking about, which are currently representatives of the government, who are supposed Bohemian participants,” the man explained. “How do you feel as a representative that our country is run by the same people that are in a group as are Adolf Hitler as was many listed? I’m not going to say name by name, but just from research I’ve found out on my own.”

“It’s just confusing me as a young kid in Florida struggling to provide for myself and my girlfriend,” he added.

At that point, C-SPAN terminated the call and gave Moran a chance to respond.

“I would suggest you might want to broaden your research somewhat, sir,” the Virginia Democrat advised. “I’m not sure I can follow all of the conclusions of your research.”

76 Belafon  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:11:53pm

re: #62 Kragar

The subtitle of the article is “Some people of faith complain that laws mandating equal treatment for LGBT Americans are forcing them to betray their privately held beliefs.” The problem is, they are no longer their privately held beliefs. They keep bringing them out into the public.

77 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:14:08pm

re: #75 Kragar

“I would suggest you might want to broaden your research somewhat, sir,” the Virginia Democrat advised. “I’m not sure I can follow all of the conclusions of your research.”

Shorter Moran: “You’re a fucking moron. STFU and go read a real book.”

78 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:17:15pm

re: #75 Kragar

The Alex Jones effect: Man tells Rep. Moran that ‘Bohemians’ in Congress are linked to Hitler

How do you feel as a representative that our country is run by the same people that are in a group as are Adolf Hitler as was many listed?

WHUT? I read this sentence like 6 times and it makes no sense even grammatically.

79 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:18:41pm

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

WHUT? I read this sentence like 6 times and it makes no sense even gramatically.

Courage.
/

80 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:18:59pm

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

Even his clauses want to remain fiercely independent.

81 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:19:40pm
82 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:21:46pm

And since I’ve had enough Ted Cruz,

Garth Marenghi’s Darkplace - Episode 03 (Full Episode) - Skipper The Eyechild

Youtube Video

83 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:22:03pm

re: #10 darthstar

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Used to have Winne Ille Pu. One of the kids liberated it.

84 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:24:04pm

Who is Ted Cruise? A relative of Tom?

85 prairiefire  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:24:12pm

re: #69 jaunte

The aliens could be defeated with a garden hose!

Give them the flu!

86 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:25:35pm

re: #85 prairiefire

Give them the flu!

Send a MacOS virus to their spaceship computer!

87 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:25:36pm
88 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:26:03pm

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

Who is Ted Cruise? A relative of Tom?

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LOL

89 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:26:28pm

Beck loves the guy so much, he can’t even get his name right.

90 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:27:08pm

re: #75 Kragar

The Alex Jones effect: Man tells Rep. Moran that ‘Bohemians’ in Congress are linked to Hitler

During a call-in segment on C-SPAN’s Wasington Journal, a Florida man calling on the “independent” line said he had some questions about “what’s been going around on YouTube and just basically most of the conspiracy-wide Internet websites.”

What, again?

91 Stanley Sea  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:27:20pm
92 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:30:16pm

Next up, Ted recites Bon Jovi lyrics.

“Shot down in a blaze of glory
Take me now but know the truth
‘Cause I’m going down in a blaze of glory
Lord I never drew first
But I drew first blood
I’m the devil’s son
Call me young gun “

93 GeneJockey  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:30:46pm

re: #63 Lidane

Yep. Spoiler tags in effect for two more hours.

But what about Lizards in Hawaii?
//

94 Balfour Rage  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:31:36pm

re: #92 Kragar

Next up, Ted recites Bon Jovi lyrics.

“Shot down in a blaze of glory
Take me now but know the truth
‘Cause I’m going down in a blaze of glory
Lord I never drew first
But I drew first blood
I’m the devil’s son
Call me young gun “

“Might as well give him a proper burial…”

95 GeneJockey  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:32:44pm

re: #78 Vicious Babushka

WHUT? I read this sentence like 6 times and it makes no sense even grammatically.

Sounds like Sarah Palin wrote the question for him.

96 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:35:36pm

re: #95 GeneJockey

Sounds like Sarah Palin wrote the question for him.

She paid an intern to write it down and then said she did it.

97 GeneJockey  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:37:10pm

re: #96 Kragar

She paid told an intern to write it down and then said she did it.

Nobody pays interns anymore.

98 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:40:26pm

YouTube tries to clean up its ‘barely literate’ comments section

YouTube, the Google-owned video sharing website, said Tuesday it was revamping its comments feed which some web users claimed had turned into a magnet for crude and vulgar postings.

A YouTube blog post said those sharing videos will be able to use “new tools” to help filter out “unwelcome voices.”

“When it comes to the conversations happening on YouTube, recent does not necessarily mean relevant,” said the posting from YouTube’s Nundu Janakiram and Yonatan Zunger.

“So, comments will soon become conversations that matter to you. In the coming months, comments from people you care about will rise up where you can see them, while new tools will help video creators moderate conversations for welcome and unwelcome voices.”

99 Balfour Rage  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:40:44pm

A Ted Cruz haiku…

I take your money,
Now I read ‘Green Eggs and Ham,’
Straight cash, homie, thanks.

100 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:44:07pm
101 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:45:58pm

re: #87 bratwurst

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where can i sign to help put this on billboards all across the country?

102 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:50:32pm

Off to the living room, be back in about an hour.

103 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:54:42pm

re: #84 Vicious Babushka

Who is Ted Cruise? A relative of Tom?

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Warning: Legislative Body Does Not Come With Cruz Control

104 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 7:58:04pm

clearly, what cruz is really hoping to accomplish is to salvage his reputation w other republicans

and he might not even accomplish that

105 Carlos Danger  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:03:15pm

re: #100 AlexRogan

Good luck with that, Google.

Youtube is a million broken windows.

It’s got its silver lining though: Sometime you can gauge an unknown, yet interesting video just by looking at the caliber of the comments. Saves time.

106 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:04:16pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

There is an alternative to shutting down comments, but it doesn’t seem to be very popular at corporate websites because it means risking being unpopular — set policies about what’s acceptable and strictly enforce them, including the follow-up work to make sure trolls don’t simply re-register. And don’t be afraid of the fallout.

The problem is that it’s really hard to remain fair. I just left a moderated forum because the place has developed a severe right wing slant.

People on the left and centre are finding it harder and harder to state opinions. They have to be treated as fact, and cited. The person cannot even be suspected of being discourteous to the other posters. Otherwise, public dick slapping by one or more mods.

People on the right do not operate under these strictures.

It used to be almost as interesting and fun as this place to discuss politics and current events. Now it’s rather like Russia under Putin.

I’m not sure what happened.

107 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:04:19pm

So there are a lot of specialty kitchen appliances that are totally not worth it, but you can pry my immersion blender out of my cold, dead fingers.

/made a butternut squash ‘bechamel’ for macaroni and cheese

108 blueraven  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:07:26pm

Cruz is actually arguing now that insurance companies should be able to discriminate against kids with pre existing conditions.

109 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:07:43pm

re: #107 klys

So there are a lot of specialty kitchen appliances that are totally not worth it, but you can pry my immersion blender out of my cold, dead fingers.

/made a butternut squash ‘bechamel’ for macaroni and cheese

Well, immersion blenders are Alton Brown-approved.

110 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:08:20pm

We will not fund Obamacare, we will not fund it anywhere.
We will not fund it on a plane, we will not fund it in a train,
We will not fund it in a tent, we will not fund it, not one cent!
We will not fund it it, not this date, we will not fund all 50 states.
We will not fund it on a boat, we will not fund it, that’s the vote!
We will not fund it, let’s be clear, we will not fund it, not this year.

111 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:10:50pm

re: #63 Lidane

Yep. Spoiler tags in effect for two more hours.

I’m going to have to boycott the internets from Sunday night until I can download the final episode of Breaking Bad from Amazon to watch it (don’t have cable).

112 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:11:58pm

re: #70 Kragar

Next, you’re going to tell me DiCaprio can’t save the fucking boat.

And the hot chick has a dick.

113 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:13:38pm
114 blueraven  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:13:51pm

Tim Kane is pawning Cruz so bad.

115 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:14:39pm

re: #114 blueraven

Probably couldn’t get much for him, could he?

/

116 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:19:20pm

re: #106 Romantic Heretic

The problem is that it’s really hard to remain fair. I just left a moderated forum because the place has developed a severe right wing slant.

People on the left and centre are finding it harder and harder to state opinions. They have to be treated as fact, and cited. The person cannot even be suspected of being discourteous to the other posters. Otherwise, public dick slapping by one or more mods.

People on the right do not operate under these strictures.

It used to be almost as interesting and fun as this place to discuss politics and current events. Now it’s rather like Russia under Putin.

I’m not sure what happened.

The leftists were probably winning too many arguments with their “facts” and “logic.”

117 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:19:57pm
118 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:22:21pm
119 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:28:57pm

The sad part? The anti science conspiracy nutcases breed more (or they just can’t figure out how to use a condom)

Xenu wept

120 Mattand  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:36:53pm

re: #111 aagcobb

I’m going to have to boycott the internets from Sunday night until I can download the final episode of Breaking Bad from Amazon to watch it (don’t have cable).

I feel your pain. We just started watching BB on Netflix this week. I’m trying like crazy to avoid spoilers.

121 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:37:31pm

Corporations like the publisher of PopSci do not want to turn down customers. They could of course pay someone to monitor the comments and give replies to the know-nothings, but after a while the know-nothings will go nuclear and the paid-expert commenter will have to flush the person. That might work once in a while, but like newspapers and their “letters to the editors”, the editors tend not to reply to the letter writer because the whole point of publishing these letters is to get customers to believe they can have their 15 seconds of fame, and thus continue to faithfully read the publication.

122 Mattand  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:39:09pm

So is Cruz (R-Shitstain) still actually talking?

123 aagcobb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:40:44pm

re: #120 Mattand

I feel your pain. We just started watching BB on Netflix this week. I’m trying like crazy to avoid spoilers.

You have some serious binge watching to do to catch up.

124 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:41:03pm

Download it for free from the torrents…but I didn’t tell you to do that…

125 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:46:02pm

re: #124 Egregious Philbin

Download it for free from the torrents…but I didn’t tell you to do that…

You want to download Cruz’s marathon derp-a-thon?

Bram Cohen would be turning in his grave, but he’s not in a grave.

126 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:47:53pm

No…dear god no!

Breaking Bad (I hear that it is very popular on the interwebz)

127 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:53:48pm

OUTRAGE!

128 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:54:51pm
129 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:55:38pm

The Daily Caller of all things is making fun of Cruz

dailycaller.com

Below, I present to you an even more plausible pathway to victory for Ted Cruz and defund Obamacare movement, in just six steps. Read up, GOP establishment:

Step One: A meteor hits Joe Biden.

Step Two: With Biden temporarily (it was a small meteor) unable to perform his duties as vice president, Barack Obama shocks the political world by nominating Texas Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert to replace him.

“I really do love the book Team of Rivals,” Obama declares at the press conference. “And Louie makes great ribs.”

Acceding to the president’s wishes, Gohmert is rapidly confirmed by Congress.

Step Three: The Chicago Bulls offer President Obama a contract to be their point guard for the upcoming season. Tired of dealing with Syria and what he terms “those morons” in Congress, Obama decides to fulfill his boyhood dream and accept the offer. He promptly resigns the presidency.

Step Four: Louie Gohmert is sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. In an address from the Oval Office with his feet resting on his desk, Gohmert promises the “Gohmertization of America.”

Step Five: At Gohmert’s request, Chuck Norris, Sully Sullenberger, Jerry Seinfeld, and the cast of “Duck Dynasty” team up and threaten to campaign against any Democratic senator who refuses to vote to defund Obamacare. Under the specter of near-certain electoral defeat, Democratic senators running for re-election in 2014 immediately declare their support for defunding Obamacare.

Step Six: The House and Senate pass a continuing resolution that defunds Obamacare and President Louie Gohmert signs it into law. “With Obamacare defeated, or at least defunded for one year,” Gohmert declares, “I will seek from Congress a declaration of war against the Republican establishment.”

130 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:57:23pm

re: #129 SpaceJesus

There isn’t a coherent message coming out for the GOP on this, so everyone’s confused. That’s the downside about having whipped them into acting in unison, now that that’s falling apart they don’t know what to do.

131 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 8:58:57pm

LET CHUCK GO TO SLEEP!

132 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:01:20pm

Shouldn’t Chuck Woolery be selling urinary catheters to nearly dead elderly people during commercials on reruns of Matlock and Murder She Wrote?

133 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:03:44pm

re: #131 jaunte

He’s sacrificing so much.

134 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:04:44pm

LOL no.

135 Mattand  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:05:12pm

re: #129 SpaceJesus

The Daily Caller of all things is making fun of Cruz

dailycaller.com

Jesus, if you’re Republican and Tucker Carlson’s rag is mocking you, it’s time to pack up your Dr. Seuss books and go home.

136 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:05:18pm

Pure winger rage


twitter.com

137 BongCrodny  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:07:08pm

re: #132 Egregious Philbin

Shouldn’t Chuck Woolery be selling urinary catheters to nearly dead elderly people during commercials on reruns of Matlock and Murder She Wrote?

And here I thought “has been game show announcer” was embarrassing enough.

138 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:07:34pm

re: #134 Lidane

LOL no.

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What is this CD that they are trying to make listen, and to which Texan do we (supposedly) belong?

139 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:09:00pm

re: #138 klys

What is this CD that they are trying to make listen, and to which Texan do we (supposedly) belong?

Think they misspelled ‘DC’. It’s a hard one.

140 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:09:13pm

re: #138 klys

What is this CD that they are trying to make listen, and to which Texan do we (supposedly) belong?

Is Ru Paul from Texas?

141 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:10:14pm

Make CD listen, until haz M3P.

142 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:10:18pm

re: #137 BongCrodny

And here I thought “has been game show announcer” was embarrassing enough.

It is even worse than Pat Boone’s shriveled up body in a bathtub commercial.

143 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:10:46pm

re: #139 Decatur Deb

Think they misspelled ‘DC’. It’s a hard one.

Seriously.

///

144 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:11:55pm

re: #140 Kragar

Is Ru Paul from Texas?

Is he related to Ron Paul?

145 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:12:02pm

I really hope Cruz is still trying to talk tomorrow at 9am

146 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:12:12pm

re: #134 Lidane

“we are all Texan’s now

since when do i belong to a texan?

147 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:12:46pm

Raving Freakazoid Nut Sandwich bleats:

148 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:13:26pm
149 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:13:43pm

Sex and religion, the basis of society:

Of Cultures Destroyed by Western Sexual Exploitation and Violent Religious Prudery

In working on my latest book Perv, some of the saddest material I came across involved the stormy cross-cultural conflicts erupting between Western ideals of sex and those discovered among other “exotic” societies. The field of cultural anthropology has its own dark history in this regard. For an embarrassingly long time, in fact, some unethical scholars were in the dubious business of publishing thinly veiled “ethnopornographies” of their trusting subjects. With revealing titles such as Untrodden Fields of Anthropology (1898), Neger-Eros (1928), and Erotikon (1966), these researchers seemed far less concerned about educating Western audiences than they were in titillating readers with lurid true stories of savage lust. Some of these scandalous volumes even included explicit “photodocumentation” of the subjects at hand, which arguably involved the production of sexually exploitative images of indigenous people.

It’s disturbing stuff. Yet in terms of the sheer amount of damage that Westerners have done to other cultures in response to their simply having different (and usually harmless) sexual customs from our own, religious missionaries definitely take the cake. In a distressingly large number of cases, the Church’s historical encroachment into far-flung corners of the globe has served to level whole societies through its many aggressive campaigns to save “savage” souls from their carnal “sins.”

[…]

I discuss this issue in more detail, and much, much more, in my new book Perv: The Sexual Deviant in All of Us, which will release on October 8, 2013.

Quite the name for a book.

Maybe I’ll wait for the movie version: Perv

150 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:14:08pm

re: #146 dog philosopher

since when do i belong to a texan?

A Catholic kids’ summer camp I attended needed a euphemism for latrine. They chose “Texas’. Don’t know why. True fact. CONFIRMED.

151 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:15:25pm

I want a texas-shaped toilet some day

152 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:16:06pm

re: #151 SpaceJesus

I want a texas-shaped toilet some day

You’ll put your eye out, kid.

153 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:16:42pm

just think - this week will be worth a whole sub chapter in “The Decline And Fall Of The Republican Party”

154 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:18:43pm

re: #150 Decatur Deb

A Catholic kids’ summer camp I attended needed a euphemism for latrine. They chose “Texas’. Don’t know why. True fact. CONFIRMED.

facts???

that’s liberal talk, son

155 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:20:48pm
156 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:21:38pm
157 jaunte  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:23:54pm

re: #156 jaunte

“…Adding more Americans to the voter rolls through health exchanges is important beyond just raw enfranchisement numbers, Jacobs says. Obamacare, coupled with increased voter registration, could change “American democracy,” he says. There is precedent for this. After the passage of the Social Security Act in 1935, voter turnout rates for seniors rose, while turnout rates for other age groups dropped. Between 1958 and 1998 alone, midterm turnout among seniors rose from 66 percent to 73 percent. Today, seniors vote at an historically high rate.”
motherjones.com

158 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:24:05pm

Somebody needs to tell Obama to get up and go in there and debate Cruz out of nowhere around 4am and make Cruz shit his pants

159 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:24:16pm

re: #5 Interesting Times

“Defundung”

- contents of Ted Cruz speech?

The best stuff really writes itself don’t it?

160 Ming  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:26:08pm

Ted Cruz makes me nostalgic for the good old days, when Bobby Jindal hit the airwaves every few months to do some test marketing for his 2016 presidential run.

161 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:26:46pm

re: #149 freetoken

Sex and religion, the basis of society:

Of Cultures Destroyed by Western Sexual Exploitation and Violent Religious Prudery

Quite the name for a book.

Maybe I’ll wait for the movie version: Perv

He writes for the Guardian, NTTAWWT.

162 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:28:44pm

Rush Limbaugh now has a real life instance of the Kabuki theater he bleats on about.

163 Egregious Philbin  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:32:01pm

re: #151 SpaceJesus

I want a texas-shaped toilet some day

Heck…just use the real Texas.

No one will notice.

164 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:32:32pm

Mike Lee keeps looking up. Is god talking to him again?

165 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:37:40pm

re: #151 SpaceJesus

I want a texas-shaped toilet some day

too hard to clean the panhandle

166 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:38:58pm

re: #165 Sol Berdinowitz

too hard to clean the panhandle

Could do yourself some real harm if you get caught down around Brownsville.

167 AlexRogan  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:42:46pm

re: #151 SpaceJesus

I want a texas-shaped toilet some day

re: #165 Sol Berdinowitz

too hard to clean the panhandle

re: #166 Decatur Deb

Could do yourself some real harm if you get caught down around Brownsville.

*groan*

168 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:44:25pm

The Vice-President and General Manager, Dan Jackson, of a TX television stations declares:

Consider This…Both sides belong in our textbooks

The debate over evolution vs. creationism is once again heating up in Austin. Specifically, whether or not textbooks should include facts about creationism.

Both ideas have been debated since Darwin first published his theory over 150 years ago, and evolution is the only one currently taught in Texas classrooms.

They are both based on facts and both come with bias and assumptions.

But consider this:

I am not going to argue the merits of why I believe God created the earth and man in it. The majority of people already believe that.

This is not a debate of science vs. religion. This debate is about what are we going to teach our children in public schools. The theory of evolution is already in the textbooks. Creationism is widely accepted across the globe. It’s time the public school system in Texas accept that and include it in the classroom.

169 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:46:12pm

re: #125 freetoken

You want to download Cruz’s marathon derp-a-thon?

Bram Cohen would be turning in his grave, but he’s not in a grave.

Political speeches and Linux distros. ;)

170 SpaceJesus  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:48:46pm

Ted Cruz angry with the most conservative supreme court in years

171 Decatur Deb  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:49:38pm

‘Nite, all.

172 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:50:57pm

The Waco TX newspaper editors try to take an anti-creationism in science classroom stance, but have to massage their editorial at the end:

EDITORIAL: Biology textbook furor about evolution shows how fast matters can devolve

[…]

Three thoughts assert themselves amid all this: The Board of Education must do a more credible job of tapping qualified reviewers of proposed textbooks. Instructional materials must leave our students poised for a workforce that puts a premium on science and technology. The Bible remains a critical guidepost in American life — and its most valuable teachings about integrity, strength, compassion, charity and sacrifice are best taught in church, private Christian schools and the home so they too can change people and transform the earth.

173 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:51:41pm

re: #168 freetoken

The Vice-President and General Manager, Dan Jackson, of a TX television stations declares:

Consider This…Both sides belong in our textbooks

We stopped teaching science in our classrooms. In that we do not teach what science is and how it works. We are now reaping the fruits of that ignorance.

174 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:53:16pm

I cant go to bed. I must stand in solidarity with Chuck Woolery. He missed the early bird for this. So brave.

175 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:53:38pm

re: #172 freetoken

The Waco TX newspaper editors try to take an anti-creationism in science classroom stance, but have to massage their editorial at the end:

The Bible remains a critical guidepost in American life — and its most valuable teachings about integrity, strength, compassion, charity and sacrifice are best taught in church, private Christian schools and the home so they too can change people and transform the earth.

I have no trouble with that message, especially the part about how teaching about the Bible belongs in church, private schools and at home.

176 Lidane  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 9:57:44pm

re: #170 SpaceJesus

Ted Cruz angry with the most conservative supreme court in years

And all because they upheld an idea that the Republicans pushed for years.

177 klys  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:03:07pm

I actually finally laid the scarf down flat.

…wow, it’s a little long. I think the gift ones will be less long.

178 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:05:03pm

re: #176 Lidane

And all because they upheld an idea that the Republicans pushed for years.

Mitt’s argument against ACA, despite it being almost identical to his plan, was that ACA was “forced on America without bipartisan support”, whereas his plan had support from the Democrats.

179 Kragar  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:05:21pm

re: #168 freetoken

The Vice-President and General Manager, Dan Jackson, of a TX television stations declares:

Consider This…Both sides belong in our textbooks

Except creationism isn’t based on facts.

180 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:06:24pm

re: #179 Kragar

Except creationism isn’t based on facts.

It is based on Higher Truths, and those are not dependent on mere facts.

181 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:11:16pm

The defunding of Obamacare is so crucial to the freedumbs m’urcans hold so dear, that the brave Sen. Cruz has thoughtfully taken the time to include the retelling of a childrens classic. A less pragmatic person would think it was a waste of time and that the Senator should take every crucial minute of this important filibuster to explain thoroughly, his ideals so us lesser people may catch but a glimpse of his great vision. But they would be wrong.

182 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:16:11pm

re: #181 Amory Blaine

Defunding and derailing ACA is more important than introducing or explaining an alternative. To the point that they have not had the time to come up with one or present it…

183 bratwurst  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:16:31pm
184 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:17:09pm

If a wingnut tells you that they can not afford Obamacare tell them to drop cable tv. Problem solved.

185 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:20:10pm

A staff writer for the NC State University newspaper approvingly affirms that the GOP is the Party of God:

The Republican Party’s image problem

[…]

It seems that every time there is a standoff in Congress, the public stands by the Democrats, labeling Republicans and their old-fashioned ideas as troublemakers. The public and mainstream media often paint the Republican Party as an unloving, anti-gay, anti-immigrant, stubborn party with old principles. There is no doubt that part of this image problem is a result of the liberal media attacks. Most major outlets in the United States today overwhelmingly dislike Republicans, employing disapproving tones when they write news and selecting facts that are not in favor of the Republican Party. Readers who are not aware of the backgrounds of the media outlets are more likely to be misled and not see the whole picture of the news.

[…]

The Republican Party “[has] become too reactionary,” [Jeb] Bush said. “We have not been as positive, offering concrete proposals that are based on the principle that future is incredibly bright.”

But the problem is not that sticking to its principles is too reactionary—in fact, the Republican Party has some great principles such as limited government, individual liberty and moral standards that are consistent with the traditional ideals that made the U.S. a great nation. But the demographic has been changed during the past two decades. Traditional supporters of the Republican Party are southern, white, evangelical Christians. Republicans’ principles and ideas are influenced by Christianity and classical liberalism for which John Locke, David Hume and Adam Smith laid the foundation. Republicans, especially tea party Republicans, tend to arm themselves with these powerful ideas and incite woe in the public, but they forget this is no longer the Enlightenment Era.


Republicans’ principles are less likely to survive in a nation where the number of people believing in God is decreasing. Heavily influenced by liberal mainstream media and other countries’ worldviews, Americans have begun to look abroad for examples, abandoning their traditional faith. Most atheists and pagans don’t think aborting a baby after 20 weeks is murder if they don’t believe in God in the first place. From their point of view, opposing gay marriage, abortion and big government is seen as nothing more than an old-fashioned and reactionary position and anti-liberty, whereas Republicans regard it as the right thing to do to prevent people from performing evil acts and defend innocent lives. The connection between Republicans and the majority has been breaking since more Americans started adopting other worldviews.

The Republican Party would have garnered the support from libertarians that are a rising force since the economic recession in 2008. Republicans and libertarians are allies by nature because, if nothing else, both oppose the fiscal expansion of the government. However, strong resistance among the Party remains because some Republicans despise the idea that government doesn’t have the right to regulate social and moral issues, which libertarians believe.

If Republicans want to restore the popularity that they had during Ronald Reagan’s time, they must start by educating the youth about why their ideas and principles trump their rival Democrats and how these principles have made the U.S. stand out and will keep doing so. Winning voters who are non-white Christians doesn’t require loosening the ground of principles. The most important strategy is sending the public good messages rather than adding more restrictions and rules without compelling persuasion.

Lots of historical revisionism going on here. The writer has that glibertarian view of the past, some mythical view of God and country.

I’m coming across a rash of college newspapers that seem to be going far right. The Kansas State college newspaper in particular, but this column in the NC State paper is just one more indication of this phenomenon.

I strongly suspect that state college campus newspapers have fallen under the delusion that honest reporting means every position has to be equally true and represented.

186 Targetpractice  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:29:24pm

re: #181 Amory Blaine

The defunding of Obamacare is so crucial to the freedumbs m’urcans hold so dear, that the brave Sen. Cruz has thoughtfully taken the time to include the retelling of a childrens classic. A less pragmatic person would think it was a waste of time and that the Senator should take every crucial minute of this important filibuster to explain thoroughly, his ideals so us lesser people may catch but a glimpse of his great vision. But they would be wrong.

I noted earlier today that this was a perfect opportunity for Ted or another Republican to step in and present the party’s alternative to the ACA. Thrill us with the GOP’s answers to how they will make health insurance affordable to the millions who don’t have it while reducing costs to those who do and ensuring ample access to all.

But that assumes something not in evidence, namely that the GOP actually has an alternative, rather than a lot of hot air and a few giveaways to the insurance companies that they wave in front of the cameras when they want to be thought of as actually having ideas.

187 freetoken  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:34:29pm

The Daily Beast knows how to get web hits - mix religion and porn in the same article!

I’m a Porn Star, and I Believe in God

[…]

Tom Byron:

“I was religious for a minute in high school. I was in an evangelical singing group that had really hot girls in it. They may have been the divine inspiration I was seeking. I don’t currently believe in any religion’s interpretation of God. I don’t consider myself an atheist, because until you are dead, you have no way of knowing for sure whether God exists or not. I don’t believe that what I do is wrong. Helping someone achieve an orgasm is a good thing. Godly, even.”

[…]

188 Amory Blaine  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:52:23pm

Need to re-calibrate my bullshit detector.

189 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 10:59:07pm

re: #185 freetoken

Traditional supporters of the Republican Party are southern, white, evangelical Christians

his historical perspective is so shallow that he seems unaware that less than 50 years ago southern, white, evangelical christians had been ironbound supporters of the racist southern “dixiecrat” wing of the democratic party for 120 years

i got news for ya, kid - your ‘constituency’ is racists

190 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 11:11:05pm

heh watching tweety’s guests look on warily as tweety loses his temper ragging on cruz

191 dog philosopher  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 11:18:43pm

ok, late niters, here is a religion i stumbled across that is a,worthy competitor to Him Of The Noodly Appendages

Discordianism

192 A Man for all Seasons  Tue, Sep 24, 2013 11:45:51pm

This is for you morning lizards…I woke up at midnight and going back to sleep..Yet I’m so pissed off I can’t see straight..Fix a drink and go back to effening bed. Hey..I why is the Bio channel always on? I know gangsters from the 30’s until today..I can’t stop watching..Why is that? Who knows but I’ll go back to SportsCenter any minute now..Did I say I was so pissed?
Yes..I am..I’ll post this Story about another base jumper killed in Napa Valley.
They are such dumbasses..This is getting old..Do you know a base jumper? Good..Call him now cause he’ll be dead in a few days..Dumbasses..
Every great base jumper is dead..What does that tell you?
You know why this pisses me off so bad? Back in the day..We were glider pilots in the Valley..We bought kits and built them and jumped off of cliffs in Napa. In the 70’s during College it’s what we did and if you didn’t you were a pussy.. We were cool and jumped off of hills to prove it. Before I got a Driver’s license I got a Glider pilot’s cert and will post a pic of the Hoopster flashing the peace sign getting ready to fly a smoking hot girl in a Glider from Calistoga..I was a Freshman in College and my dad worked for the FAA for 33 years.. So I had the path and fuck you all you base jumpers..
I can’t forget our first glider..My buddy bought it..We put it together..He walked it to the edge of a cliff and then..He just rose up..Whoa..It was amazing.He just rose up like magic..and full of grace..Then he turned upside down in a second..And slide down edge of the cliff and out of sight just like a movie.. Just gone..It was kindof funny but really shocking.
A bad Sunday for Glider pilot’s in Napa.. We didn’t have cell phones back then. So one guy climbed down the cliff and I hiked to a farm house a mile back to call the police to call a copter and reclaim the body.
That’s where I am coming from so fuck you Base Jumpers…You are just stupid kids with better equipment than us..So fucking stop it..Esp. if you are still alive reading this..Fucking stop this madness..You’re link to madness.. Good Morning Lizards..
foxnews.com

193 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 12:02:57am

re: #192 A Man for all Seasons

I started accelerated freefall classes when I was younger but I couldn’t keep up with the payments. Skydiving is great fun. Very dangerous of course. Basejumping even more so. When I was skydiving, I was following this guy (reading his recovery online) Dead MIke. He chronicles his experience after his horrible skydiving accident:

On August 3, 1997 around 5 PM at the World Freefall Convention in Quincy, Illinois, Michael B. Vederman, after a successful skydive, got into a parachute collision with South African Andy Anderson’s body about 30 seconds before landing. Mike fell about 80 feet and struck the concrete runway almost horizontal, face down.
Mike broke both femurs, both knees, left kneecap, right foot big toe, left elbow, right arm radius, mandible (lower jaw), maxilla (upper jaw), nose, orbits (eyeball sockets) and palate in mouth. Mike also lost 10 pints of blood, 19 teeth and 25 pounds of fat/muscle. He has various nerve damage.

He went on to skydive again.

194 freetoken  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 12:27:54am

Ernesto Lecuona, probably from 1954:

MP3 Audio

195 freetoken  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 1:23:09am
196 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 1:38:37am

Rafael Cruz is still going…

197 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:04:14am

A very awkward moment yesterday afternoon after a bout of play between the 3 yr old neighbor and my 3 yr old g-grandson when the daddy of the neighbor told them little A would have to leave to visit g-parents. The boys started hugging and would have kissed each other, but A’s daddy: “No kissing! Boys don’t kiss each other!” So sad, cutting off half the human race in that statement. Such is the fear of “turning” kids into the dreaded “homoseckuals”.

“Old curmudgeon granny”, taken aback: “Aw, how sweet, all that love!” Among other protestations, I might add. But A is such a genius, which his over-competitive mommy is so quick to bring up in her not-so-subtle criticism of my parenting style (allowing J to play computer games like daddy) and her ignorance of different styles of learning. J can already operate a computer, Xbox, and loves books and he doesn’t have to “perform” on demand. His motor skills are pretty developed right now even if he doesn’t already “know” the alphabet, and he’s a very “social” kid, more so than many adults. Kids learn at their own pace and in different styles, not those of other kids, are influenced by their environment, and no one can predict the future, even as you provide guidance for kids.

We can never base success on what a child has “achieved” at 3 yrs, but most of all, for J, I hope he’s a loving, kind, and considerate person and develops a passion for learning in his own way, which he seems to be doing. No one should ever be put in a box, and I’m all for redefining a “successful life”.

198 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:12:22am

Maybe the Senate could start fining people like Cruz who waste The People’s time and money with this kind of hot air ideology? It’s not debate, it’s not a filibuster—it has no meaning or substance.

Senate moves toward test vote on Obamacare

bigstory.ap.org

199 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:20:15am

Yep up at 4am watching Ted Cruz. Now this is productive.

200 simoom  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:23:28am

re: #127 Lidane

OUTRAGE!

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Speaking of CSPAN, gotta love this caption:
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201 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:30:56am

re: #199 Amory Blaine

Yep up at 4am watching Ted Cruz. Now this is productive.

To paraphrase: “I do not like Ted Cruz, I do not like him Sam-I-Am.” Sheeesh!

202 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:36:57am

Cruz claims he’ll talk until he can’t stand anymore? Metaphysical kneecapping, anyone?

Sorry, Teddie, you’ll have to stop when it’s time to vote, not when you decide.

It’s not your Senate, it’s ours, so tuck away that ego.

203 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 2:49:42am

You knew this was coming…

Note: Nikolai Alexeyev, the tweeter, also arrested.

204 Amory Blaine  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:00:25am

Kabuki Dance!!!! Drink!

205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:04:35am

Did you know Dr. Seuss did political cartoons?

Image: iJkbni4.jpg

206 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:05:23am

re: #203 Justanotherhuman

Then, there’s this about Nikolai Alexeyev…at heart a Russian chauvinist and anti-Semite?

Nikolai Alexeyev’s Fall From Gay Rights Leader to Anti-Semite

Here’s how you go from leading Russian opposition figure to discredited bigot in a single step: declare your hatred for Jews and cozy up to Putin. At least that’s what Nikolai Alexeyev’s done, says James Kirchick.

thedailybeast.com

207 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:07:52am

re: #203 Justanotherhuman

You knew this was coming…

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Note: Nikolai Alexeyev, the tweeter, also arrested.

FYI Nikolai Alexeyev is an incredibly nasty, vile anti-semite. And while that obviously in no way justifies or even sheds light on the anti gay bigotry of the Russian government, it’s truly unfortunate that the gay rights movement there has one of the absolute worst spokespersons imaginable.

208 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:16:45am

It helps if your state is embracing Obamacare, you know. Something Republican-run states like NC are blocking. It’s a self-fulfilling “prophecy” they’re pushing about rates being “higher”.

Obamacare’s average monthly cost across U.S.: $328

reuters.com

“Politics aside, states with the lowest average premium tend to have more insurance companies offering plans, the report said. It said eight issuers on average were selling plans in the states with average premiums in the lowest 25 percent, while states with average premiums in the top 25 percent had only three insurers on average.”

Aside to goddamnedfrank: See my followup on Alexeyev.

209 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:43:56am

Conservative Attorney Larry Klayman Sets Date For Coup Against Obama

huh?

This seems a bit different that holding mock impeachment trials …

210 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:50:05am
211 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 3:54:18am

re: #207 goddamnedfrank

Well, you should know that racism and misogyny have been charged quite a bit in the LGBT movement as well. Who are the leading spokes people for the movement, for instance? Who gets the most results from it? If white successful males are the majority reaping the benefits of this kind of gay activism, is that much different from the way society as a whole sees race, gender and class? I’m not confusing process and results, but it is what it is.

This has been going on since I was involved in the women’s movement so long ago. At that time, lesbians were drawn more toward the women’s movement than the “gay” movement, no doubt as many Black gays were drawn toward the civil rights movement of the time, because they felt they didn’t have a voice. At our little “women’s center”, all women were welcome, no matter who they were—we never considered ourselves as part of the “mainstream” type of feminism particularly because of the issues of race and class which weren’t addressed by NOW and other organization—if so, very superficially—and we tended to be considered “radical” in that we did address them in depth, but in no way could we be considered “separatists”, but just inclusive. If people brought their prejudices with them, we had some successes and a few failures in teaching them that those issues were important, as a part of someone’s overall identity.

212 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:06:57am

I don’t know how I missed this.

There really was a Tuttle.

Remember Tuttle?

213 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:19:10am

going to try to go back to sleep.

214 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:20:09am

Includes Syrian Free Army, and “moderate” Islamist groups.

Islamist rebels in Syria reject National Coalition

bbc.co.uk

“The statement is an attempt to shift the political balance of power in favour of those doing the fighting on the ground and is also an indication that jihadist groups like the al-Nusra Front are very much centre stage in the conflict, an awkward reality for Western powers, he adds.

“Charles Lister of IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Centre said the three moderate Islamist groups which signed the statement - Liwa al-Tawhid, Liwa al-Islam and Suqur al-Sham - had represented the National Coalition’s main rebel presence on the ground in Syria.
UN chemical weapons inspectors cross the border from Lebanon into Syria (25 September 2013) There have been 14 alleged cases of chemical weapons or chemical agent use in Syria

“The inclusion of the core of [the National Coalition’s] force… effectively depletes [its] armed wing, the Supreme Military Council,” he told the Reuters news agency. “It is likely that the moderate Islamist coalition has ceased to exist as a single organisation structure.”

215 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:36:59am
216 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:41:15am

My son uploaded some videos to FB. The twins are perfecting their “cry all night long” tag-team filibuster.

217 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 4:55:31am

Ted Cruz owes me a new irony meter.

218 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:03:18am

My son was detained at the US/Canada border for 4 hours so STFU Glenn.

219 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:08:32am

re: #218 Vicious Babushka

My son was detained at the US/Canada border for 4 hours so STFU Glenn.

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A friend of mine was detained for nearly 5 hours because of a houseplant.
XD

220 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:18:48am

re: #119 Egregious Philbin

The sad part? The anti science conspiracy nutcases breed more (or they just can’t figure out how to use a condom)

Xenu wept

But on the other hand those children are less likely, sadly, to reach the age of majority. 19th Century social standards means 19th Century child death rates.

221 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:37:43am
222 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:39:14am

re: #218 Vicious Babushka

Real issue, terrible spokesperson.

223 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:39:48am

re: #222 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Real issue, terrible spokesperson.

Glenn co-opts everything to be all about him.

224 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:41:51am

lolwut

225 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:44:15am

re: #224 Vicious Babushka

Well, this is the closest they’ve come to actually doing ANYTHING, in like forever, so all that “hard work” has made them delirious. That and they’re ridiculously stupid assholes.

That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

226 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:45:07am

re: #222 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Any issue, terrible spokesperson. Like he cares anyway.

227 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:47:14am

The usual wingnut response to being corrected on a Fake Quote:

228 Mattand  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:49:23am

re: #224 Vicious Babushka

lolwut

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All I can think of is how the same fuckups screaming “Freedom in healthcare” are the same ones who want to make abortion as difficult as possible; right up to criminalizing it.

It’s an overdone analogy, but the GOP really are like toddlers: at some point, they don’t even know why they’re crying anymore.

229 A Mom Anon  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:50:49am

Annnnd that’s my morning drive-by. My dog has issues which are sending us to the vet this morning. Her skin is a train wreck,scaly, itchy bumps that bleed when you scratch them off(seborrhea?) and she’s “leaking” some sort of fluid that isn’t urine all over the place. I’m hoping all it is is a UTI (I know, TMI, lol) and some minor allergies. Cross your fingers this doesn’t cost me an arm and an ear.

230 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:54:13am

Poll: Chris Christie coasting to victory

“The poll also shows that Christie has the support of over a third of Democrats with 35 percent and he’s taking 69 percent of Independents. The governor also holds strong support from male and female voters leading 61 percent to 32 percent among women and 69 percent to 26 percent among men.

Read more: politico.com

Even some Dems and women can dig their own graves. I suppose Barbara Buono just isn’t flashy, or self-promoting, enough.

231 Mattand  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:55:24am

From TPM:

CSPAN Reminds Viewers That Cruz’s Overnight Speech Is Not A Filibuster (PHOTO)

I really do not understand how supposedly sane conservatives (particularly the ones who post here) can continue endorsing this horseshit.

It should also be pointed out that Wendy Davis had practically the entire Texas GOP nitpicking her every goddamn move for 18 hours.

232 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:57:54am

re: #228 Mattand

All I can think of is how the same fuckups screaming “Freedom in healthcare” are the same ones who want to make abortion as difficult as possible; right up to criminalizing it.

It’s an overdone analogy, but the GOP really are like toddlers: at some point, they don’t even know why they’re crying anymore.

They probably want to spend that money on gunz and ammunition, doncha know.

233 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 5:58:37am
234 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:00:47am

Now Ted Cruz has hijacked Star Wars.

thedailybeast.com

Live inaction.

235 Mattand  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:01:49am

re: #230 Justanotherhuman

Poll: Chris Christie coasting to victory

“The poll also shows that Christie has the support of over a third of Democrats with 35 percent and he’s taking 69 percent of Independents. The governor also holds strong support from male and female voters leading 61 percent to 32 percent among women and 69 percent to 26 percent among men.

Read more: politico.com

Even some Dems and women can dig their own graves. I suppose Barbara Buono just isn’t flashy, or self-promoting, enough.

Preaching to the choir here. As I mentioned before, one of my neighbors is a teacher who is in love with the guy. Utterly clueless to the fact that if Christie had his way, my neighbor would take a 35% pay cut and lose any hard-won benefits due to Christie’s union busting.

236 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:03:50am
237 Lancelot Link  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:09:19am

Wouldn’t it be funny if Cruzz took a nap after his all-nighter, overslept and missed the actual vote?

238 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:09:56am

Hahahaha!

239 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:14:39am

re: #236 Vicious Babushka

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LOLOLOL

Here’s the video.

Youtube Video

240 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:15:46am

OBAMACARE IS JUST LIKE TEH HOLOCAUST!!!11!!!!

241 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:18:18am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Zionist empire welcomes my new niece and nephew into the world. The twins were born yesterday morning but wanted to begin their rule on Earth about 8 weeks too soon. They’re in the NICU, but are doing well, as is mom.

242 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:18:58am

re: #241 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Zionist empire welcomes my new niece and nephew into the world. The twins were born yesterday morning but wanted to begin their rule on Earth about 8 weeks too soon. They’re in the NICU, but are doing well, as is mom.

MAZAL TOV!

243 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:20:56am

francis has taken his daily dump.

244 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:21:07am

re: #241 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. The Zionist empire welcomes my new niece and nephew into the world. The twins were born yesterday morning but wanted to begin their rule on Earth about 8 weeks too soon. They’re in the NICU, but are doing well, as is mom.

Mazal Tov and congrats. Glad to hear they’re doing well. Yes, sounds like they’re quite anxious to begin their Earthly rule over us all.

:D

245 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:22:06am

re: #244 Dr Lizardo

Mazal Tov and congrats. Glad to hear they’re doing well. Yes, sounds like they’re quite anxious to begin their Earthly rule over us all.

:D

Too late. Babushka’s Zionist Overlord granddaughters have already claimed their realm. But lawhawk’s twins can be their minions.

246 darthstar  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:22:49am
247 darthstar  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:24:13am
248 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:32:50am

re: #241 lawhawk

Congrats!

Let’s see, two new Bubushkas down south, two new lawhawks…

Something must be in the water here at LGF.

249 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:33:26am

re: #248 Bulworth

Congrats!

Let’s see, two new Bubushkas down south, two new lawhawks…

Something must be in the water here at LGF.

My youngest daughter is due any day now.

250 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:34:55am

re: #227 Vicious Babushka

OFFS

251 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:36:13am

re: #250 Bulworth

OFFS

SO WHAT IF THOMAS JEFFERSON NEVER SAID THAT FAKE QUOTE I JUST TWEETED—HE WOULD HAVE TOTALLY SAID IT IF HE WAS ME!!11!!!!!1!!!

252 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:39:49am
253 b.d.  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:40:54am

re: #251 Vicious Babushka

SO WHAT IF THOMAS JEFFERSON NEVER SAID THAT FAKE QUOTE I JUST TWEETED—HE WOULD HAVE TOTALLY SAID IT IF HE WAS ME!!11!!!!!1!!!

F*CK A BUNCH OF OBAMACARE - ABE LINCOLN

254 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:43:38am
255 darthstar  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:46:36am
256 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:48:10am

lolwut

257 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:49:41am
258 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:51:37am

The feds release new stats on Obamacare exchange plan offerings, and they are coming in lower than the last batch - a good thing. And these numbers get further reduced if you are making up to 400% of the poverty level.

The data in the HHS report also show the impact of tax credit subsidies on premiums for the lowest earners. Families and individuals whose household incomes are at or below 400 percent of the federal poverty level may qualify for a subsidy to reduce their cost of coverage. For an individual, that is roughly $45,960, while for a family of four that is about $94,200.

For a 27-year-old New Jerseyan who makes $25,000 a year, the average price of the second-lowest silver plan before credits is $260. But after the credit is taken, the premium drops to $145 a month, HHS says. Similarly, a family of four making $50,000 a year can expect to pay $943 a month for the same plan before the tax credit, or $282 after the credit is taken into account.

So, when I got some nitwit on Twitter claiming that a single mom would be paying more for health care than before, and did so in all caps because she read the law (all caps again), I just laugh because the facts tell a completely different tale.

These folks think that someone who can now afford health insurance because of the exchanges is in a worse position than before - because they have to pay for insurance. Never mind that they were priced out of insurance previously, and people making up to 400% of the poverty level would get credits/subsidies to bring down the cost to the capped amount based on income.

259 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:55:19am

re: #245 Vicious Babushka

Too late. Babushka’s Zionist Overlord granddaughters have already claimed their realm. But lawhawk’s twins can be their minions.

Well, minions isn’t so bad.

260 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:55:51am

re: #259 Dr Lizardo

Well, minions isn’t so bad.

We have a great health plan, includes dental and vision!

261 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:56:27am

re: #260 Vicious Babushka

We have a great health plan, includes dental and vision!

LOL

262 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 6:59:38am

What is this… I can’t even…

263 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:01:30am

re: #262 Vicious Babushka

What an utter ignoramus.

264 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:01:55am

re: #263 Dr Lizardo

What an utter ignoramus.

It’s much worse than ignorance.

265 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:05:33am

LOL, somebody tell this wingnut that the election is over and HIS GUY LOST.

266 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:06:20am

re: #264 Vicious Babushka

It’s much worse than ignorance.

Yes, it is sadly.

Also, it’s Hitlers all the way down.

267 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:07:16am

OFFS
Ben you ignorant slut

268 darthstar  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:10:48am
269 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:19:19am

re: #265 Vicious Babushka

And this troubled heart must have missed the healthcare debate three years ago.

270 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:20:21am

A Fire From the Lord came down and devoured Ted’s sacrifice?

271 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:22:20am

re: #265 Vicious Babushka

Forget that, but there’s no monopoly. The exchanges are a way to provide insurance policy offerings from multiple carriers. That includes Blue Cross, Anthem, Aetna, Cigna, etc.

272 darthstar  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:22:51am
273 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:24:31am

re: #271 lawhawk

Forget that, but there’s no monopoly. The exchanges are a way to provide insurance policy offerings from multiple carriers. That includes Blue Cross, Anthem, Aetna, Cigna, etc.

These wingnuts have no idea what the ACA will really do for them, all they know it’s JUST LIKE SLAVERY & TEH HOLOCAUST ONLY EVEN MOAR WORSER!!!1!!!!1!!!!!

274 bratwurst  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:27:00am
275 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:27:18am

Wingnut is REALLY REALLY ANGRY about Fake Quote being corrected

276 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:28:03am

Ball-faced lies, I love that!

DeadBreitbart & Benghazi!!!1!! avatar, check.

277 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:33:42am

re: #276 Vicious Babushka

Ball-faced lies, I love that!

DeadBreitbart & Benghazi!!!1!! avatar, check.

I wish my photoshop skills were sufficient to rephrase that “Breitbart Is Here” slogan that typically accompanies his photo to “Breitbart Is Dead”

I know. That’s mean of me. I apologize.

278 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:36:37am
279 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:38:52am

re: #234 Justanotherhuman

That’s no moon…it’s a derp station!

280 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:40:06am

re: #270 Vicious Babushka

OFFFFFFSSS

281 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:40:15am

re: #205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Did you know Dr. Seuss did political cartoons?

Image: iJkbni4.jpg

He was also involved with the Looney Tunes crew and Frank Capra with the Private Snafu cartoon shorts for the WW2 war effort:

Youtube Video

282 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:40:53am

re: #277 Dr Lizardo

I wish my photoshop skills were sufficient to rephrase that “Breitbart Is Here” slogan that typically accompanies his photo to “Breitbart Is Dead”

I know. That’s mean of me. I apologize.

“And in other news, Francisco Breitbart is still dead.”

283 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:41:41am

Derp derp hurr hurr

284 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:42:50am

re: #282 William Barnett-Lewis

“And in other news, Francisco Breitbart is still dead.”

Heh.

285 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:43:07am

re: #270 Vicious Babushka

For a (supposed) Christian to compare the moron that is Ted Cruz to one of the Bible’s more prominent figures…asinine.

286 b.d.  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:43:27am

re: #275 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut is REALLY REALLY ANGRY about Fake Quote being corrected

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Miscredited Twitter quotes harm democracy more than any Al-Qaeda member ever could - George Washington

287 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:44:41am

re: #286 b.d.

Miscredited Twitter quotes harm democracy more than any Al-Qaeda member ever could - George Washington

HOW DARE YOU CORRECT MY FAKE QUOTE WHEN WE ARE FACING ANOTHER HOLOCAUST ENSLAVEMENT WITH OBAMACARE!!!!1!!!111!!!!TY

288 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 7:59:49am

re: #283 Vicious Babushka

Derp derp hurr hurr

I think I could spend the rest of the day trying to understand what Ben is saying here and still not make sense of it.

289 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:01:04am

re: #283 Vicious Babushka

This fellow is just not right in the head.

290 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:03:10am
291 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:03:17am

“I think he believes he’s starring in a movie.” Claire McCaskill’s description of Cruz’s non-filibuster.

292 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:09:19am

Heh.

293 geoffm33  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:11:57am

Has Ted Cruz made it through Dr Seuss’ catalog yet? I am waiting with bated breath for him to read ‘The Lorax’.

294 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:12:06am

*headdesk*

295 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:12:54am

re: #293 geoffm33

Has Ted Cruz made it through Dr Seuss’ catalog yet? I am waiting with bated breath for him to read ‘The Lorax’.

The Lorax speaks for the trees. What are you, some kinda commie wanting that read on the Senate floor?

/////

296 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:13:40am

This stupid shit:
Dumbass, Facebook took the page down because of their TOS. There is no “First Amendment Right” to someone else’s private venue (Something that Pamela also doesn’t get).

297 geoffm33  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:15:18am

re: #295 Lidane

The Lorax speaks for the trees. What are you, some kinda commie wanting that read on the Senate floor?

/////

He’ll beam with pride as he reads:

I, the old Once-ler, felt sad
as I watched them all go.
BUT…
business is business!
And business must grow
regardless of crummies in tummies, you know….

298 geoffm33  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:16:32am
299 chadu  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:17:22am

re: #42 Lidane

I agree. Agents of SHIELD was cool!

And about Coulson…

I agree with your assessment he’s an LMD with Phil’s memories. I also think he’ll be upgraded into the Vision at some point.

301 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:18:06am

re: #288 Bulworth

I think I could spend the rest of the day trying to understand what Ben is saying here and still not make sense of it.

Federal employees like Paul Ryan who you know are federal government lifers yet like you spend their time demeaning people who do. If it wasn’t for the federal government, Ben, you wouldn’t have a career because you wouldn’t have anything to btich about.

302 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:19:52am

re: #299 chadu

The spoiler bracket thing is the coolest thing ever.

303 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:20:27am

re: #296 Vicious Babushka

Facebook Defense Network!

304 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:24:36am

re: #291 Justanotherhuman

“I think he believes he’s starring in a movie.” Claire McCaskill’s description of Cruz’s non-filibuster.

In a way he is. Its a fundraising video, and his grosses are going to be huge, because Teahadists are eating it up and asking for more.

305 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:25:02am
306 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:25:20am

Inevitable:

307 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:26:11am

re: #306 Lidane

18 seconds!

308 b.d.  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:26:37am

re: #307 Vicious Babushka

18 seconds!

Smoked

309 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:27:08am

re: #306 Lidane

Also inevitable, getting smoked by VB.

310 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:27:48am

re: #309 lawhawk

Also inevitable, getting smoked by VB.

Baked in a pie with the crust on top!

311 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:27:58am

Popular Science: Why We’re Shutting Off Our Comments

Yahoo should re-consider doing it again. Talk about a cesspool of idiocy.

312 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:29:16am

re: #306 Lidane

313 aagcobb  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:29:19am

re: #305 Vicious Babushka

Its clear that Corsi’s mind has been corroded by denying himself sexual pleasure for decades.

314 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:33:33am

Well that didn’t take long. I’m surprised none of them have blamed Obama for the Kennedy assassination yet.

315 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:34:33am

Ted Cruz reads Green Eggs and Ham without recognizing the irony of reading a story that encapsulates the GOP position perfectly.

The Democrats’ bet on the Affordable Care Act is that it’s like green eggs and ham—they’re convinced the public will like it when they try it.

Conservatives like Cruz claim that this is wrong. That Americans will taste the green eggs and ham and they’re going to hate it. But their actions speak otherwise. They’re desperate to repeal the law before it’s implemented. And in terms of the 2012 elections, that was fair enough. But they lost in 2012. Now instead of acting like they’re confident that the voter backlash to the green eggs and ham will power them to victories in 2014 and 2016, they’re engaging in flailing desperate tactics to make sure nobody tries the green eggs and ham. Because deep down they fear that Dr. Seuss was right.

The GOP doesn’t eat green eggs and ham.

They wont eat green eggs and ham. So the GOP doesn’t want you to eat green eggs and ham because they fear you might actually like it.

So they’re fighting to prevent anyone from eating green eggs and ham.

The GOP’s greatest fear is that once the next set of Obamacare provisions take effect - the exchanges and IM, that people will realize that the GOP is spectacularly wrong - that the program expands health insurance coverage to millions of people and that the costs are reasonable. That’s why they wanted to strangle the program before it gained acceptance - once people realize how valuable the program is, repeal, defunding, delaying, or obstructionism will be even harder to impossible to achieve.

So, instead of offering up constructive criticism on how the program could be modified to make it more cost effective or provide coverage to even more people (or everyone), they’re pushing to eliminate the program altogether - cutting health insurance to millions that would otherwise have access to those who would participate in the exchanges (which are a collection of private insurance companies who provide policies in accordance to the federal rules - which is inherently not a monopoly since it creates a new marketplace for individuals to obtain insurance).

316 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:34:35am

re: #313 aagcobb

Its clear that Corsi’s mind has been corroded by denying himself sexual pleasure for decades.

Replacing sexual pleasure with ragehol is never a good idea. To think that this clown’s book played a part in the Swift Boat attacks on Kerry which in turn hurt Kerry’s presidential chances. Agh.

317 chadu  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:35:24am

re: #302 Bulworth

The spoiler bracket thing is the coolest thing ever.

Agreed!

318 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:35:25am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Well that didn’t take long. I’m surprised none of them have blamed Obama for the Kennedy assassination yet.

FaceBook friend posted an article the other day blaming Bush for the mall attack!

SC/DS
Same Coin,,, Different Side

319 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:35:46am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Well that didn’t take long. I’m surprised none of them have blamed Obama for the Kennedy assassination yet.

Well, I stopped watching Lisa Phillips’ Twitter feed, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she has already put that forth.

320 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:36:42am

re: #315 lawhawk

Ted Cruz reads Green Eggs and Ham without recognizing the irony of reading a story that encapsulates the GOP position perfectly.

The GOP doesn’t eat green eggs and ham.

They wont eat green eggs and ham. So the GOP doesn’t want you to eat green eggs and ham because they fear you might actually like it.

So they’re fighting to prevent anyone from eating green eggs and ham.

The GOP’s greatest fear is that once the next set of Obamacare provisions take effect - the exchanges and IM, that people will realize that the GOP is spectacularly wrong - that the program expands health insurance coverage to millions of people and that the costs are reasonable. That’s why they wanted to strangle the program before it gained acceptance - once people realize how valuable the program is, repeal, defunding, delaying, or obstructionism will be even harder to impossible to achieve.

So, instead of offering up constructive criticism on how the program could be modified to make it more cost effective or provide coverage to even more people (or everyone), they’re pushing to eliminate the program altogether - cutting health insurance to millions that would otherwise have access to those who would participate in the exchanges (which are a collection of private insurance companies who provide policies in accordance to the federal rules - which is inherently not a monopoly since it creates a new marketplace for individuals to obtain insurance).

I think they’re afraid that people are going to see the GOP and TP lies for what they are once they realize that ACA is going to benefit and help a lot of people. You can already see that since people oppose the defunding of it in general outside hardcore right wing partisans. The GOP has always acted like opposition was in a vacuum- ignoring that many had a problem with ACA because it wasn’t extensive enough.

321 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:37:42am

re: #318 sattv4u2

FaceBook friend posted an article the other day blaming Bush for the mall attack!

SC/DS
Same Coin,,, Different Side

Well of course, it’s the same shit, it’s Alex Jones blaming someone else for an attack other than the someone who did it. It’s his MO.

322 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:38:07am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

OMG I totally agree! My localish paper the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel should also consider it, at least for a bit to let the trolls there who attack anyone commenting in favor of striking down Act 10 in a most vicious manner…

323 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:38:30am

re: #319 Vicious Babushka

Well, I stopped watching Lisa Phillips’ Twitter feed, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she has already put that forth.

From what I saw of your links to her feed, seems like she’s the type that would blame the Mossad combined with teh Zionistz for that.

324 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:39:25am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Popular Science: Why We’re Shutting Off Our Comments

Yahoo should re-consider doing it again. Talk about a cesspool of idiocy.

Yahoo comments or Bigotry Lake.

325 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:39:37am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

From what I saw of your links to her feed, seems like she’s the type that would blame the Mossad combined with teh Zionistz for that.

Yeah, she did.

326 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:39:58am

re: #314 HappyWarrior

Well that didn’t take long. I’m surprised none of them have blamed Obama for the Kennedy assassination yet.

Pshaw. Obama was directly responsible for the assassination attempt on FDR back in 1933. Wound up killing Anton Cermak, the mayor of Chicago, instead. Typical Obama incompetency.

///

By the way, in the city of Kladno, Czech Republic, there’s a small monument to Mayor Cermak built on the site where he was born. In Czech, he’s known more properly as Antonín Čermák.

327 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:39:59am

re: #323 HappyWarrior
I remember when I first heard the theory that Mossad killed JFK…still remember that WTF feeling…

328 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:40:59am

re: #327 DisturbedEma

I remember when I first heard the theory that Mossad killed JFK…still remember that WTF feeling…

Wait that’s an actual CT? I was just making fun of this Lisa person since she blames the Jews for everything else so why not JFK.

329 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:41:11am

re: #309 lawhawk

Also inevitable, getting smoked by VB.

That’s okay. At least there will be pie.

330 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:41:51am

re: #323 HappyWarrior

From what I saw of your links to her feed, seems like she’s the type that would blame the Mossad combined with teh Zionistz for that.

I was briefly considering sending her the “Rainbow Sprinkers” conspiracy video just to watch the hilarity ensue, but I couldn’t figure out how to do that without bringing myself to the attention of the bad crazy.

331 sagehen  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:41:53am

re: #245 Vicious Babushka

Too late. Babushka’s Zionist Overlord granddaughters have already claimed their realm. But lawhawk’s twins can be their minions.

Lawhawk’s twins are closer to NYC than Babushka’s; ergo, more likely to rule the world.

/(semi)

332 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:42:00am
333 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:42:53am

re: #326 Dr Lizardo

Pshaw. Obama was directly responsible for the assassination attempt on FDR back in 1933. Wound up killing Anton Cermak, the mayor of Chicago, instead. Typical Obama incompetency.

///

By the way, in the city of Kladno, Czech Republic, there’s a small monument to Mayor Cermak built on the site where he was born. In Czech, he’s known more properly as Antonín Čermák.

He had a good line- “I may not have came here on the Mayflower but I came over here as fast as I could.” And everyone knows Obama shot the czar and his ministers,, woo, woo.

334 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:43:48am

Super. This may turn out to be an overreaction (and I hope that’s the case), but a shooting incident was reported at or near Roosevelt Field mall on Long Island (it’s one of the largest malls in the US). It’s prompted lockdowns at nearby schools, road closures, and a significant police response.

Few details are known at this time, but police have closed off all exits to the Meadowbrook Parkway by the mall.

The Garden City School District said classes are going on as normal, but said schools have been placed on a lockout mode, meaning no one is being allowed into school buildings.

With events in Nairobi looming in the background, they’re taking no chances.

UPDATE:
Two people shot, and a suspect apparently fled in a white Honda:

The suspect is described as being an Asian male, 6-feet-2 inches tall and was last seen wearing a grey suit jacket and a red shirt, police said.

The mall was not closed, but they were limiting access.

335 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:44:02am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Wait that’s an actual CT? I was just making fun of this Lisa person since she blames the Jews for everything else so why not JFK.

I do remember seeing something in her feed about JFK having nice words about Hitler. That was very weird.

I’m not looking it up, though.

336 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:44:28am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

He had a good line- “I may not have came here on the Mayflower but I came over here as fast as I could.” And everyone knows Obama shot the czar and his ministers,, woo, woo.

Best bumper sticker I ever saw
On an old beat up VW bus

“This may not be the Mayflower, but your sister came across in it”

337 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:45:26am

Self-awareness, he has none.

338 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:45:54am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

He had a good line- “I may not have came here on the Mayflower but I came over here as fast as I could.” And everyone knows Obama shot the czar and his ministers,, woo, woo.

Yep.

And Obama rode a tank, held a General’s rank when the Blitzkrieg raged and the bodies stank.

He’s pleased to meet you.

///

339 Mattand  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:46:02am

re: #331 sagehen

Lawhawk’s twins are closer to NYC than Babushka’s; ergo, more likely to rule the world.

/(semi)

Beyond Thundercrib: four babies enter, two babies leave.

340 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:46:28am

re: #334 lawhawk

Has nothing to do with Nairobi

Whenever there’s a shooting in a public place (especially one where they’re not sure the exact location) all schools in the immediate area are in lockdown

341 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:47:25am

re: #315 lawhawk

Ted Cruz reads Green Eggs and Ham without recognizing the irony of reading a story that encapsulates the GOP position perfectly.

The GOP doesn’t eat green eggs and ham.

They wont eat green eggs and ham. So the GOP doesn’t want you to eat green eggs and ham because they fear you might actually like it.

So they’re fighting to prevent anyone from eating green eggs and ham.

The GOP’s greatest fear is that once the next set of Obamacare provisions take effect - the exchanges and IM, that people will realize that the GOP is spectacularly wrong - that the program expands health insurance coverage to millions of people and that the costs are reasonable. That’s why they wanted to strangle the program before it gained acceptance - once people realize how valuable the program is, repeal, defunding, delaying, or obstructionism will be even harder to impossible to achieve.

So, instead of offering up constructive criticism on how the program could be modified to make it more cost effective or provide coverage to even more people (or everyone), they’re pushing to eliminate the program altogether - cutting health insurance to millions that would otherwise have access to those who would participate in the exchanges (which are a collection of private insurance companies who provide policies in accordance to the federal rules - which is inherently not a monopoly since it creates a new marketplace for individuals to obtain insurance).

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342 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:47:39am

re: #335 Vicious Babushka

I do remember seeing something in her feed about JFK having nice words about Hitler. That was very weird.

I’m not looking it up, though.

Right wing nut jobs are very weird.

343 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:48:06am

re: #331 sagehen

Lawhawk’s twins are closer to NYC than Babushka’s; ergo, more likely to rule the world.

/(semi)

Yes, but I already have 16 8/9 grandchildren in New York.

Shoots, scores!

344 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:48:40am

re: #340 sattv4u2

It’s the full reaction - road closures around the mall, plus the school lockdowns (and those lockdown procedures are the result of the carnage at far too many schools across the nation, including those at Sandy Hook) that looks like the events in Nairobi; the NYPD and other agencies in the NYC metro area have stepped up patrols at public areas, including malls.

345 Gus  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:48:48am

re: #296 Vicious Babushka

This stupid shit:
Dumbass, Facebook took the page down because of their TOS. There is no “First Amendment Right” to someone else’s private venue (Something that Pamela also doesn’t get).

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Toolbox | DNSstuff | WHOIS/IPWHOIS Lookup Results for ridefortheconstitution.org

AKA Santilli & Associates, LLC. AKA Pete Santilli.

346 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:49:09am

re: #342 HappyWarrior

Right wing nut jobs are very weird.

Lisa was way, way beyond your garden-variety, average Right-Wing Nut Job.

347 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:49:46am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

Lisa was way, way beyond your garden-variety, average Right-Wing Nut Job.

Ha, I could see that.

348 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:49:59am

re: #337 Vicious Babushka

Privilege isn’t what makes people pay attention to civil liberties, drones & NSA - it’s what makes people ignore them t.co
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) September 25, 2013

Is he attempting to be a philosopher now? Fail.

349 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:50:05am

re: #345 Gus

Toolbox | DNSstuff | WHOIS/IPWHOIS Lookup Results for ridefortheconstitution.org

AKA Santilli & Associates, LLC. AKA Pete Santilli.

NSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ty

350 Mattand  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:50:24am

re: #322 DisturbedEma

OMG I totally agree! My localish paper the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel should also consider it, at least for a bit to let the trolls there who attack anyone commenting in favor of striking down Act 10 in a most vicious manner…

The Philadelphia Inquirer’s site, philly.com, should consider it as well. The place is a fucking fever swamp of angry, put-upon white guys who barely conceal their racism.

351 Gus  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:50:46am

re: #349 Arrrr, matey!

NSA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ty

Another nutter. Seen that idiot before.

352 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:50:50am

re: #344 lawhawk

It’s the full reaction

As it should be as long as they’re unsure of where/ what/ how many

As stated though, thats been going on for at least a decade and has nothing to do with Kenya

353 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:52:12am

re: #352 sattv4u2

Amended the above to AT LEAST A decade

354 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:53:04am

and speaking of the Kenya mall attack

hosted.ap.org

355 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:53:32am

WTF?

356 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:53:55am
357 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:54:34am

I’ve been continuing my research into border security issues and I hope to publish a series of pages on it in the not too distant future.

Sadly, most of the information I’ve come across indicates that the people tasked with actually securing the border have no clue what they are doing.

Firstly, the Border Patrol/CBP (Customs and Border Protection) has been responsible for no less than 3 major border security initiatives (ISIS, SBI and Shield) in the past 15 or so year. All have been aject failures with delays, cost overruns and a limited impact on improved security at the border.

And then there’s Project 28.

Project 28 was an offshoot of the SBI initiative. It was meant to be an implementation of the oft-mentioned “virtual fence”. The project would consist of a series of 98 foot towers deployed along the border. The towers are equipped with high definition and infared cameras, sensors and a satellite data connection.

It was supposed to work like this: An illegal immigrant comes with in range of the tower and triggers a sensor, then a remote operator in a command center uses the tower’s camera to locate and get a description of the intruder. This information is then relayed to CBP officers along with GPS information allowing them to quickly intercept and arrest the immigrant.

Sounds good in theory, but the reality it is the program was a disaster.

The U.S. government (specifically the Department of Homeland Security) paid Boeing close to $150 million for the project.

Boeing than took most of that money and pocketed it as profit margin, using the rest to buy commercially available cameras and other equipment from places like Radio Shack and cobbled together a so-called “Border security system” that was practically useless.

It gets better. As part of this “massive, high-tech” undertaking, Boeing hired about 100 subcontractors to also work on the project. In a classic case of “too many cooks spoil the broth”, practically nothing worked in the end.

But here’s the best part: The test area for Project 28 and, as far as I’m aware the only area in which the project was ever actually implemented, was a 28-mile stretch of the Arizona/Mexico border.

That means the U.S. government spent close to $150 million hiring Boeing to spectacularly fail at securing a mere 28 miles of a border nearly SEVENTY TIMES THAT LENGTH.

Why did Project 28 fail?

You can blame the usual suspects: Lack of government oversight, improper conduct by defense contractors and sub-contractors, bureaucratic nonsense and the actions of politicians and bureaucrats who don’t know an actual thing about what it’s like out on the borderlands and fail to understand the immense complexities of developing and implementing a sound border protection strategy.

358 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:54:40am

re: #328 HappyWarrior

Well, about 15ish years ago I went to Summerfest and sitting on the lawn waiting for Hootie and the Blowfish (don’t judge:), a young man maybe 30? was chatting with my friend, for some reason birthdays came up, and I told him my birthday was 11/22- the JFK anniversary…he paused and said that he wondered if the truth would ever come out on that…I said truth? he said, yeah that it was Mossad that killed him…I was stunned, because I’d never heard that one before, when I asked him how he had heard that he replied “everybody knows that” I replied, well someone forgot to tell this Jewish woman…he made haste to find a different place to sit after a sort of apology “hey sorry didn’t mean to say that in front of an actual Jew” type comment…

359 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:55:03am

“Ted Cruz is the Nickleback of politics.”

360 Varek Raith  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:55:25am

re: #355 Lidane

WTF?

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What is this…

361 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:55:25am

re: #358 DisturbedEma

Well, about 15ish years ago I went to Summerfest and sitting on the lawn waiting for Hootie and the Blowfish (don’t judge:),

Too late.

362 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:55:58am

re: #316 HappyWarrior

You think Kerry could have beat Bush without the Swift Boat nonsense?

363 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:56:37am

re: #358 DisturbedEma

Well, about 15ish years ago I went to Summerfest and sitting on the lawn waiting for Hootie and the Blowfish (don’t judge:), a young man maybe 30? was chatting with my friend, for some reason birthdays came up, and I told him my birthday was 11/22- the JFK anniversary…he paused and said that he wondered if the truth would ever come out on that…I said truth? he said, yeah that it was Mossad that killed him…I was stunned, because I’d never heard that one before, when I asked him how he had heard that he replied “everybody knows that” I replied, well someone forgot to tell this Jewish woman…he made haste to find a different place to sit after a sort of apology “hey sorry didn’t mean to say that in front of an actual Jew” type comment…

Ha what a loon. But that reminds me. Some loon was bitching about Jews in front of my Dad at Costco one time. We’re not Jewish for what it’s worth but my Dad decided to fuck with the guy and tell him he was. Guy immediately clammed up and shut up. The antisemitic conspiracy theories are just so insane. I researched some of them when I did my term paper and man people are stupid.

364 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:56:40am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

“Ted Cruz is the Nickleback of politics.”

Never made it as a wise man…

365 Gus  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:56:55am
366 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:56:58am

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF TEH POOR INSURANCE CEO’S!!11!!1!!!!

367 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:57:05am

re: #350 Mattand

OMG- the racism about anything R/T social issues is rampant on JSonline…add the weekly shootings and staffing issues at some of the agencies that serve the poor…making a mockery of any idea that the site is moderated…

368 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:57:16am

re: #361 Dr. Matt
Damn! :)

369 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:57:55am

re: #363 HappyWarrior

Ha what a loon

Now now

Don’t call DisturbedEma a loon just because she admitted seeing Hootie!!!

//

370 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:58:32am

re: #365 Gus
Just threw up a little…WTF…no love for the va jay jay at all anymore

372 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:59:29am

re: #368 DisturbedEma

Damn! :)

And if you admit attending a Nickelback concert, Charles should perma ban you. ;)

373 piratedan  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 8:59:56am

re: #312 Dr. Matt

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If Obama was half of the tyrant that they say he is….

Colorado Springs would be a smoking crater and Fox News would be off the air, Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes and Rush Limbaugh would all be in jail for sedition and the Red State Website would have been co-opted by the NSA and it’s commentariat all relocated into FEMA camps by black helicopters, Obama wouldn’t be fucking about by blowing shit up in Nairobi.

Since that hasn’t fucking happened, I wish these guys would either fellate themselves more quietly or come up with more plausible conspiracy theories, because this shit is quickly devolving into bedtime story territory with these infantile racists.

374 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:00:32am
375 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:00:52am

re: #369 sattv4u2

LMAO!! I vow to keep my copious youthful musical indiscretions from feeding my fellow lizards… Hangin Tough, with my LGF peeps, As Long As You Love Me, I know that we will never have to say Bye Bye Bye…;)

376 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:01:01am

re: #365 Gus

These “people” are fucking lunatics.

377 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:01:43am

re: #372 Dr. Matt

My husband is a fan…the things you do for love…

378 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:01:55am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

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These “people” are fucking lunatics.

Well, he’s probably on Lisa Phillips Following list.

379 Gus  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:02:11am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

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These “people” are fucking lunatics.

Yep. He and that weird Alex Jones fan. What’s her face.

380 Gus  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:03:05am

Apparently the people trying to put together that fake trucker strike are a bunch of loonies. Who’d have guessed.

381 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:03:20am

re: #366 Vicious Babushka

WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF TEH POOR INSURANCE CEO’S!!11!!1!!!!

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Yeah you care so much about the vulnerable among us Stockman that’s why you’re for defunding a legislation that bans denying coverage based on pre-existing conditions. Derp. Won’t someone think of the poor CEOs.

382 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:03:58am

re: #376 Dr. Matt

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These “people” are fucking lunatics.

What’s old is new again. Clinton conspiracy theory nonsense.

383 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:04:36am
384 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:05:01am

re: #379 Gus
I realized something last week- the bat shit crazy members of the GOP are having an effect on my sarcasm detector…someone made a sarcastic comment about the NRA response to the Navy Yard shootings and I was “outraged at the ignorance they showed. . ” I felt like Miss. Emily on SNL…”Oh…nevermind”

385 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:06:28am

OT Drive-by: WTF?

386 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:06:49am

And on that note

Mrs Satty just called and informed me that I am meeting her for brunch!!

bbl

387 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:07:52am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by: WTF?

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What if a blah or a brown person answers the door?

388 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:07:53am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

What could go wrong?

/

389 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:08:04am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by: WTF?

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Somehow I don’t think they’re going to get the response they expect. Yeah strangers with shotguns to be given away. No thanks, now if you’re giving away cookies and desserts………….or those pretty good albeit overly priced Omaha steaks.

390 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:08:12am
391 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:08:58am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

Please be a joke please let this be a joke…pleeeease be a horrible joke…door to door???

392 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:09:35am

The GOP lost the battle the minute the court declared ACA constitutional.This right here is just a pathetic effort to show their base that they’re being sufficiently anti-Obama.

393 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:10:14am

re: #386 sattv4u2

Yay how awesome, love those impromptu moments of couplehood! Enjoy your brunch:)

394 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:10:54am

re: #390 Dr. Matt
even with a shutout, it appears this will be going into overtime…

395 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:11:06am

re: #389 HappyWarrior

Ugh, I’ve been reading too much right wing stuff lately, I misread that as “Obama steaks”.

396 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:11:24am
397 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:11:49am

re: #395 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, I’ve been reading too much right wing stuff lately, I misread that as “Obama steaks”.

HE’S GIVING THEM AWAY WITH FOOD STAMPZ!!!1!!!!!!!TY

398 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:11:53am

re: #391 DisturbedEma

Please be a joke please let this be a joke…pleeeease be a horrible joke…door to door???

Unfortunately, it looks legit to me. Link is to a local Orlando news affiliate. What the fuck people. I hate to sound like a hippie but we really need to stop seeing guns as our first solution to problems. You want to stop crime? Maybe support policies and policymakers that support helping kids go to school, stay out of poverty, etc. I get it crime is a serious issue but that’s no need to be paranoia about every person you encounter. I travel in D.C a ton unarmed and I’d do so even if D.C allowed me to carry whatever the hell I wanted to like the gun nuts want.

399 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:12:06am

re: #395 Eclectic Cyborg

I feel your pain…I guess it’s a side effect…

400 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:12:27am

re: #395 Eclectic Cyborg

Ugh, I’ve been reading too much right wing stuff lately, I misread that as “Obama steaks”.

Is that related to the Obama cell phone program? //

401 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:12:36am

re: #394 DisturbedEma

even with a shutout, it appears this will be going into overtime…

Math is hard for the wingnuts

402 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:12:59am

re: #397 Vicious Babushka

HE’S GIVING THEM AWAY WITH FOOD STAMPZ!!!1!!!!!!!TY

What was it Reagan said about young bucks.//

403 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:13:07am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by: WTF?

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It’s a group that believes that helping poor people be armed in their own homes (with required training - basic NRA shotgun and gun safety IIUC ) will decrease crime overall. And yes, they give them away to anyone who wants them.

404 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:13:51am

re: #387 Vicious Babushka

What if a blah or a brown person answers the door?

If they want one, they can have one and the required training.

405 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:15:01am

Not sure if you fellow lizards have been made aware of this bullshit from the librul NBC network:

NBC Sports Network has been airing an NRA-sponsored hunting show called Under Wild Skies, on which gun-humping NRA lobbyist Tony Makris shoots elephants in the face.
deadspin.com

406 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:16:50am

re: #398 HappyWarrior
Daaaaamn…

407 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:17:40am

re: #401 Dr. Matt

Yeah, hard to find tech support for the abacus…

408 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:17:57am

re: #405 Dr. Matt

What the mutherf0cking f0ck is this bulshit?

409 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:18:23am

re: #405 Dr. Matt
Fucking HELL…insanity!!!!

410 Carlos Danger  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:18:25am

re: #311 Dr. Matt

Yahoo should re-consider doing it again. Talk about a cesspool of idiocy.

They did kind of hide them, somewhat.

When large sites began to run these unmoderated comments, casual bigotry seemed to increase exponentially.

411 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:20:27am

Well if one Republican has to win the governorship this year and I apologize to Lawhawk, Mattland, adn all the other Jersey lizards but I’d rather it be Christie than Cuccinnelli. Christie is a dick but at least he doesn’t want to criminalize head.

412 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:20:54am
413 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:21:09am

Meanwhile, up here in South Canada, the following:


Farmington Hospital Network Realizes $8.4 Million Operating Loss

The hospital experienced challenges that produced “a negative financial position never witnessed before,” Rebecca Ryder, president and chief executive officer, reported to the community in an annual report and meeting Monday.

Contributing to the increase in operating loss, she said, were lower revenues, a loss of $9 million over the past two years, government cutbacks amounting to $1.8 million for MaineCare services, an unexpected 2 percent sequestration on Medicare payments in April, an increase in hospital taxes paid to the state, fewer patients, fewer medical tests and charity cases increasing $2 million over two years from $10 to $12 million. Many insured patients have co-pays and are also waiting longer to seek treatment, she said.

Got it? $8.4 million operating loss, but their charity cases went from $2 million to $10-12 million.

The next time the anti-ACA crowd yaps about how “people can always find treatment at the hospital emergency room…” — this is the result you get from that kind of thinking.

414 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:22:28am

re: #408 Bulworth

re: #409 DisturbedEma

This is fucking sickening especially coming from NBC. I think we need to take a page from the playbook of the wingnuts and shed as much light on this to shame NBC in dropping this program and the NRA.

415 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:25:48am

re: #403 William Barnett-Lewis

I wonder how many people with turn around and sell them for food/gas money?

416 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:25:55am

re: #387 Vicious Babushka

What if a blah or a brown person answers the door?

They can manage that by choosing neighborhoods—Sunshine Gardens isn’t the first, it’s a college-educated burb with a $57,000 median income. Its crime rate is far below average.

homes.point2.com

417 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:26:00am

re: #412 Lidane

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With all due respect to Senator Reid, I don’t think it’s even possible to learn anything from Senator Cruz.

418 chadu  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:26:48am

re: #356 Vicious Babushka

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All the UPDINGS!

419 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:28:25am

re: #413 BongCrodny

Funny thing is if that actually WAS in South Canada, the story would be much different.

420 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:30:22am

re: #405 Dr. Matt

Not sure if you fellow lizards have been made aware of this bullshit from the librul NBC network:

What’s the fucking point of that.

421 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:32:06am

re: #413 BongCrodny

“Got it? $8.4 million operating loss, but their charity cases went from $2 million to $10-12 million.”

I think you read that wrong. Charity cases went up 2 million dollars from 10 million to 12 million over a 2 year period.

and charity cases increasing $2 million over two years from $10 to $12 million.

422 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:34:18am
423 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:37:12am

For the Chrome users on here:


Apparently Netscape plug-in APIs are still a thing. They’re going bye-bye next year.

424 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:37:41am

re: #420 HappyWarrior

Of the NBC NRA show? To piss off us libtards of course, since we have no sense of humor and want to confiscate all teh gunz. /

425 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:39:09am

re: #403 William Barnett-Lewis

It’s a group that believes that helping poor people be armed in their own homes (with required training - basic NRA shotgun and gun safety IIUC ) will decrease crime overall. And yes, they give them away to anyone who wants them.

Sorry, but this org reeks of wingnut. Have you looked at their website? Their YouTube channnel? The Twitter account for the org and its founder? It’s all about #WAR, #2A, #ACP, #NRA, #TGDN and #TCOT

Also, try googling Armed Citizen Project or Kyle Coplen and see who the primary promoters of this are (hint: Daily Caller, Breitbart, Fox, etc.)

I guess this is their “minority outreach”. //

426 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:39:36am
427 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:41:21am

re: #426 Lidane

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LOLOLOL

428 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:41:33am

re: #412 Lidane

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Is that code for Sit down and STFU???

429 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:41:45am

What, they think he had something important to say? What a joke.

instagram.com

430 blueraven  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:42:04am

McCain on Senate floor -

We lost…this is how democracy works, get over it.

431 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:42:40am

re: #428 DisturbedEma

Is that code for Sit down and STFU???

It’s a long-winded way of saying “Bless his heart.” Heh.

432 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:43:04am

re: #429 Justanotherhuman

That image hurts my eyes.

433 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:43:32am

re: #432 Eclectic Cyborg

That image hurts my eyes.

Yeah, it’s as blurry as Cruz.

434 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:44:04am

re: #419 Eclectic Cyborg

Funny thing is if that actually WAS in South Canada, the story would be much different.

I should probably ditch that lame “South Canada” joke, if only for clarification purposes.

It should also be noted that while Maine is a relatively poor state — I think we’re one of the highest, if not the highest, state in percentage of elderly citizens — Hospital CEO salaries are quite high, with many CEOs well in the top 1% of salary earners.

This is from the Lewiston Sun-Journal, one of the papers serving the area where I live:

Other findings for Maine’s six largest hospitals, their parent organizations and the smaller hospitals in the tri-county region:

* Two doctors topped the $1 million mark.

* CEO compensation ranged from $256,000 to $1.2 million, with Portland’s MaineHealth taking the top spot.

* One hospital hired its own lobbyist.

* Some executives got special perks, such as free travel for spouses.

* One hospital spent almost $300,000 on a “culture change”consultant.

Lewiston Sun Journal — Health and Wealth: Analysis Reveals Hospital Perks, Quirks and Pay

435 blueraven  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:44:31am

re: #430 blueraven

McCain on Senate floor -

We lost…this is how democracy works, get over it.

Also hitting Cruz hard for using Nazi rhetoric.

436 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:45:59am

re: #431 Lidane

It’s a long-winded way of saying “Bless his heart.” Heh.

:)

437 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:46:00am

re: #435 blueraven

Also hitting Cruz hard for using Nazi rhetoric.

McCain hitting Cruz hard for his Nazi rhetoric is just like the Nazis..////

438 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:47:03am

re: #421 Bubblehead II

“Got it? $8.4 million operating loss, but their charity cases went from $2 million to $10-12 million.”

I think you read that wrong. Charity cases went up 2 million dollars from 10 million to 12 million over a 2 year period.

and charity cases increasing $2 million over two years from $10 to $12 million.

Ah, got it — my bad.

But that’s still $10-12 million spent on charity cases, which obviously contribute to the $8 million shortfall.

439 blueraven  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:47:05am

re: #437 Bulworth

McCain hitting Cruz hard for his Nazi rhetoric is just like the Nazis..////

Appeaser!!

440 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:47:07am

It certainly felt that way for everyone else:

441 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:47:14am

re: #437 Bulworth

McCain hitting Cruz hard for his Nazi rhetoric is just like the Nazis..////

damn you beat me to it!

442 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:47:51am

re: #435 blueraven

Also hitting Cruz hard for using Nazi rhetoric.

Good, I dislike McCain but Cruz should be given shit for comparing health care reform to the appeasement of the Nazis. In fact, Cruz is a bastard for doing so in my book.

443 HappyWarrior  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:48:41am

re: #440 Lidane

It certainly felt that way for everyone else:

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I guess Ted Cruz never learned Historical Perspective 101. I’m sure a 21 hour speech is exhausting the Baatan Death March motherfucker?

444 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:48:49am

re: #440 Lidane

It certainly felt that way for everyone else:

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If I had any relatives who survived/died in that hell on earth experience, I’d be pissed as hell that this well fed asshat special interest mofo dared to compare the 2

445 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:49:34am

Obamacare debate part (I’ve lost count).

There was the months of debate leading up to the passage of the law in the House; a similar amount of debate in the Senate with their passage. There was the debate between the chambers.

It was enacted into law.

Then the debate began over the constitutionality of the IM. That debate included countless legal briefs, debates, and judicial decisions leading up to the US Supreme Court holding three days of hearings on the law, and which found the IM was constitutional under the Congressional power to tax.

Yet, there’s still people who think that something will change with more debate and lies and obfuscations from the GOP about the nature of the law and what it will mean to millions of people who currently have no health insurance. They will now have the opportunity to purchase insurance through exchanges, with subsidies to reduce their costs to a percentage of their annual income. It’s not a monopoly. It’s not destroying insurance companies (the exchanges are comprised of plans offered by the insurance companies).

But the GOP thinks that this is a line in the sand and can be used to destroy the national economy by holding it for the ransom of raising the debt ceiling and/or annual appropriations (a continuing resolution).

Give in to their demands to destroy Obamacare, or else the economy gets it.

And everyone should take that message for what it is - the last gasp of a party without any ideas and who thinks that the nation can be fooled by nonstop banter that Obamacare is evil when its central mission is to provide more access to health insurance than presently available.

446 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:49:35am

re: #443 HappyWarrior

I guess Ted Cruz never learned Historical Perspective 101. I’m sure a 21 hour speech is exhausting the Baatan Death March motherfucker?

Totally agree

447 BongCrodny  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:49:56am

re: #422 Lidane

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I don’t know which is worse — the fact that Romney was the best that sorry party had to offer, or that he got 47% of the vote.

448 Dr. Matt  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:50:03am

re: #440 Lidane

449 gwangung  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:50:44am

re: #444 DisturbedEma

If I had any relatives who survived/died in that hell on earth experience, I’d be pissed as hell that this well fed asshat special interest mofo dared to compare the 2

Sorta like how folks who survived communist regimes or had relatives who survived communist regimes should be as pissed as hell at people comparing Obama to communists.

450 Bubblehead II  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:51:01am

re: #438 BongCrodny

Ah, got it — my bad.

But that’s still $10-12 million spent on charity cases, which obviously contribute to the $8 million shortfall.

Quite concur with that. This is why ACA has to be fully implemented.

451 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:52:10am

re: #448 Dr. Matt

452 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:52:56am

re: #442 HappyWarrior

It’s not even close…Chamberlain’s actions in no way compare to the current situation dammit please STOP with the Nazi references to anything you don’t like or disagree with!!!

453 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:53:07am

re: #425 CuriousLurker

I guess this is their “minority outreach”. //

Essentially, yes. True believers at that… O_o

454 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:53:41am

re: #425 CuriousLurker

Sorry, but this org reeks of wingnut. Have you looked at their website? Their YouTube channnel? The Twitter account for the org and its founder? It’s all about #WAR, #2A, #ACP, #NRA, #TGDN and #TCOT

Also, try googling Armed Citizen Project or Kyle Coplen and see who the primary promoters of this are (hint: Daily Caller, Breitbart, Fox, etc.)

I guess this is their “minority outreach”. //

Unless I’m missing some links, I don’t see minority outreach in this effort. See my above on demographics. I’ve seen one other neighborhood distro out west—that was a commuter bedroom community.

littlegreenfootballs.com

455 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:54:33am

re: #449 gwangung

Sorta like how folks who survived communist regimes or had relatives who survived communist regimes should be as pissed as hell at people comparing Obama to communists.

exactly…

456 blueraven  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:56:39am

Senate now voting to advance CR.

457 SnowdenBaggerVance  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:57:50am

Right wing radio just loves them some Ted Cruz. They think it’s a total win.

458 DisturbedEma  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:57:56am

re: #456 blueraven

Senate now voting to advance CR.

Ok, please help- what will this Clean Resolution do again?? I’m so effing confused now I can’t tell where we are in this mess. .

459 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:58:54am

re: #457 SnowdenBaggerVance

Right wing radio just loves them some Ted Cruz. They think it’s a total win.

They also think a government shutdown and a default on our national debts are good ideas. Not exactly the brightest bulbs in the box.

460 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:59:25am

Wow. In 1950, the ratio of worker to CEO pay was 1-20.

In 1980, it was 1-40.

In 2012, it was 1-350.

If you’re feeling a lot poorer and wondering why you’re not getting ahead or just treading water, think about that. And look at some of the ratios for these CEOs. Is it any wonder that JC Penney is going under?

Top CEO Pay Ratios

go.bloomberg.com

461 Lidane  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 9:59:40am

re: #458 DisturbedEma

Ok, please help- what will this Clean Resolution do again?? I’m so effing confused now I can’t tell where we are in this mess. .

Isn’t this all just a vote for cloture so they can vote on the House version of the bill?

The dumbest thing in all this is that Cruz supports the House bill. WTF.

462 Bulworth  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 10:04:58am

re: #457 SnowdenBaggerVance

Maybe they’ll decide to believe that Cruz’s filibustertypething actually repealed Obamacare so that now we can all go about our lives.

463 CuriousLurker  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 10:05:37am

re: #454 Decatur Deb

Unless I’m missing some links, I don’t see minority outreach in this effort. See my above on demographics. I’ve seen one other neighborhood distro out west—that was a commuter bedroom community.

littlegreenfootballs.com

Wow, I’d totally missed that as I didn’t stay in the thread after posting. I was going by the photos on their YouTube, Twitter, and web pages. They have that one Black woman’s photo displayed prominently on all.

464 Decatur Deb  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 10:26:33am

re: #463 CuriousLurker

Wow, I’d totally missed that as I didn’t stay in the thread after posting. I was going by the photos on their YouTube, Twitter, and web pages. They have that one Black woman’s photo displayed prominently on all.

Was she holding a pancake flipper?

465 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 11:03:48am

re: #460 Justanotherhuman

Interesting to read the company responses on that. Almost every one of them is all “You’ve distorted the numbers!”

466 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Sep 25, 2013 11:23:52am

re: #385 CuriousLurker

OT Drive-by: WTF?

“Armed Citizen Project” going door-to-door to give away shotguns t.co (cont) t.co
— Candace Brown (@CandaceTX) September 25, 2013

Aaron Alexis types will be happy to take one.


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