Ted Cruz on Meet the Press: You Want Health Insurance? Get a Job.

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See if you can count the lies that come out of Ted Cruz’s mouth during this interview on Meet the Press.

I think my favorite crazy line was that Harry Reid wants to use “brute political force” to fund the Affordable Care Act — a law that was passed years ago — or maybe it was Cruz’s idiotic, heartless advice to people who need health insurance: “get a job.”

These people are so deranged, it’s truly disturbing.

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309 comments
1 Snarknado!  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:43:37am

I’ll take your word for it — not going there, wouldn’t be prudent.

2 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:44:52am
See if you can count the lies that come out of Ted Cruz’s mouth during this interview on Meet the Press.

The first thing out of his mouth was a lie.

3 Carlos Danger  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:46:04am

Like, shutting down the government- that’s a REAL job.

4 Dr. Matt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:47:12am

So, the ACA has not even been fully implemented, yet according to the teatards the ACA is:

*killing Americans…literally
*rationing health care
*killing jobs
*killing the economy
*raising the cost of health care
*shutting down small businesses

Did I forget anything?

5 Carlos Danger  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:49:45am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

So, the ACA has not even been fully implemented, yet according to the teatards the ACA is:

*killing Americans…literally
*rationing health care
*killing jobs
*killing the economy
*raising the cost of health care
*shutting down small businesses

Did I forget anything?

PANIC ON THE STREETS OF BIRMINGHAM

6 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:49:54am

re: #1 I Subscribed!

I’ll take your word for it — not going there, wouldn’t be prudent.

I lasted for 23 whole seconds. He’s like Sarah Palin to me—watching either one of them talk makes me want to jab sharp objects into my eyes & ears.

Time to step away and find something constructive to do.

7 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:50:37am

re: #4 Dr. Matt

White House Tours!

8 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:51:37am

Ted Cruze. I nominate him for Asshole Of The Year, and that’s saying something, because he’s got a lot of competition.

9 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:52:00am

That line Cruz used about small businesses deliberately staying under 50 employees because of Obamacare is pure fantasy.

10 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:52:19am

re: #6 CuriousLurker

I lasted for 23 whole seconds. He’s like Sarah Palin to me—watching wither one of them talk makes me want to jab sharp objects into my eyes & ears.

Time to step away and find something constructive to do.

I’m watching football. Waaaay better for my stress levels today.

11 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:54:04am
12 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:56:54am

Oh yeah. Get a job and wait 90 to 120 days for coverage to kick in. Gee. Has this sorry excuse for a person ever had to wait that long for health care or anything else? Probably not.

13 Dr. Matt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:57:10am

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14 Velvet Elvis  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 10:59:52am

I have a job. I’m a self-employed small businessman, the kind of people republicans are supposed to stick up for.

15 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:01:15am

re: #14 Velvet Elvis

I have a job. I’m a self-employed small businessman, the kind of people republicans are supposed to stick up for.

Homemaker —sometimes part-time worker.

Hubby is the breadwinner and has Multiple Sclerosis.

Where do we fall on the Ted Cruz Continuum?

16 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:01:40am

re: #14 Velvet Elvis

I have a job. I’m a self-employed small businessman, the kind of people republicans are supposed to stick up for.

Oh, they do stick up for them. Except they define “small businessman” as “CEO of a multi-national conglomerate worth billions”.

17 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:01:47am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

New Video Claims Never-Before-Seen Footage Of 911 Attack (VIDEO)

samuel-warde.com

Not even close to being “new”. The same compilation has been circulating around 9-11 truth sites for at least 10 years. Probably longer.

18 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:02:09am
See if you can count the lies that come out of Ted Cruz’s mouth during this interview on Meet the Press.

I can’t. He’s in perpetual Gish Gallup Mode.

19 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:05:00am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Not even close to being “new”. The same compilation has been circulating around 9-11 truth sites for at least 10 years. Probably longer.

Well

In the scheme of history,,, 10 years is “new” !!!

20 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:07:07am
21 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:09:47am

re: #14 Velvet Elvis

I have a job. I’m a self-employed small businessman, the kind of people republicans are supposed to stick up for.

Iknowrite.

22 Dr. Matt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:10:01am

re: #17 Killgore Trout

Not even close to being “new”. The same compilation has been circulating around 9-11 truth sites for at least 10 years. Probably longer.

Ah. Whoops. Thanks,

23 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:11:45am

re: #15 FemNaziBitch

Homemaker —sometimes part-time worker.

Hubby is the breadwinner and has Multiple Sclerosis.

Where do we fall on the Ted Cruz Continuum?

Because it seems that it’s a Conservative Catch-22. If I don’t stay home, I’m a bad woman. If I don’t work because (obviously-my husband has a high chance of being disabled) I’m a bad woman.

24 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:12:46am

All these problems Cruz is ranting about already exist and Obamacare is barely started. Obamacare is meant to remedy them.

Completely disconnected from reality.

25 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:13:25am

re: #22 Dr. Matt

Ah. Whoops. Thanks,

I can’t remember for sure but I think all those clips were compiled from the same movie about 9-11. It was a mainstream movie (might be the one made by that French camera crew) but the truthers went though and picked out all the mentions of buildings being “blown up”.

26 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:14:12am

re: #24 SnowdenBaggerVance

Completely disconnected from reality.

So a Tea Party member then?

27 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:15:31am

This is what I posted after listening to Mr. Cruz on MTP this morning:

OMG! I’m watching Sen. Cruz on MTP…
People like me who always thought the Tea Party was a some what a lame movement consisting mostly of old people pissed off about taxes, Obama and the GOP losing power. I played down the fringe elements.

I am becoming deeply alarmed over these self styled revolutionaries.
America.. Mr. Cruz is the fruit of the Tea Party.
What have they wrought on this Nation?
The shut down of the Government is only the opening act for this bunch.
They don’t want to legislate, they want to burn the Hill down and remake it to their image of America in the 50’s and 60’s.
I don’t think I’m overstating my alarm about the Tea Party.

28 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:15:58am
29 peguyjaures  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:16:01am

re: #14 Velvet Elvis

I have always been taken aback seeing the cost of health insurance in the US for self-employed people, who lack the negotiating power of big corporations. In many cases, it makes health care simply unaffordable to independent entrepreneurs… But then, wasn’t the Republican party supposed to be all about “free enterprise”?

In effect, the current obstacle is an obstacle to free enterprise - and an incentive for middle-class people to stick with salaried job and corporate exploitation… If the Republicans were serious about “freedom of enterprise”, they would welcome the ACA with glee…

30 steve_davis  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:16:03am

re: #5 Carlos Danger

PANIC ON THE STREETS OF BIRMINGHAM

hang the dj hang the dj hang the dj

31 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:17:30am

Well Ted I got a job. Only your party is threatening to shut down the federal government because you don’t like ACA. So fuck you buddy.

32 Killgore Trout  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:17:39am

re: #13 Dr. Matt

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33 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:18:55am
34 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:19:18am

Why does Ted Cruz hate business? Why is he telling business owners they need to offer healthcare?
///

35 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:19:34am

re: #33 jaunte

And Abbott is the douchebag that the Texas GOP is going to nominate for governor. WTF.

36 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:20:37am

re: #35 Lidane

And Abbott is the douchebag that the Texas GOP is going to nominate for governor. WTF.

Isn’t he the same derptard that is threatening to sue the feds over the latest arms treaty and that went along when another derptard on Twitter called Wendy Davis a stupid woman. Texas deserves better than these assholes.

37 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:21:32am

re: #32 Killgore Trout

What

No Loch Ness sightings nor Lindsey Lohan married a Martian photos!?!?!

38 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:22:33am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Isn’t he the same derptard that is threatening to sue the feds over the latest arms treaty and that went along when another derptard on Twitter called Wendy Davis a stupid woman. Texas deserves better than these assholes.

Yes. Abbott has filed something like 30 different lawsuits against the Obama administration so far. His threats to sue over the gun treaty are just the latest in his massive pile of fail.

You know, because the Texas AG has nothing better to do than just sue the feds.

39 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:23:07am

I hope a second GOP shutdown of the federal government because of a temper tantrum finally shows the American people that the GOP doesn’t give two shits about the American people. They’d rather screw over the American people than concede defeat in the healthcare battle. ACA passed. The USSC has affirmed its constitutionality. And numerous repeal attempts. I’m sorry Republicans and wingnuts but you don’t get to threaten to shut down the federal government over that and expect to be taken seriously as a voice of reason but then again you lost that with me, the second you actively pandered to people who believed Civil Rights was a communist plot to take over the South.

40 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:24:01am

re: #38 Lidane

Yes. Abbott has filed something like 30 different lawsuits against the Obama administration so far. His threats to sue over the gun treaty are just the latest in his massive pile of fail.

You know, because the Texas AG has nothing better to do than just sue the feds.

Him and Cuccinelli both. It’s insanity.

41 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:24:34am
42 nines09  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:25:00am

I had a job, jerk off, until the GOP crashed the fucking economy. These people are beyond redemption. No dealing with them and no sense from them. It’s the rise of the Fascist dream of the GOP. They want it all and they don’t care who gets hurt. If Obama gives them a penny he loses and we lose with him.

43 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:25:13am
44 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:26:14am

Massive hit in the Seattle/Houston game just now. They’re pulling out the stretcher and everything. Wow.

45 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:26:49am

House GOPer: Shutdown ‘Is A Loser For Us’

Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) said Sunday that a federal government shutdown would probably be a “loser” for the Republican party.

“I think everybody agrees that this is a loser for us if the government shuts down,” Labrador said on Meet The Press. “That’s why I think the president and the Democrats want to shut down the government.”

Its real simple, dumbass.

1) Fund the Government
2) Hold weekly “defund Obamacare” votes, which will all go down in flames.

Winning.

46 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:27:32am

re: #44 Lidane

Massive hit in the Seattle/Houston game just now. They’re pulling out the stretcher and everything. Wow.

Bad, but precautionary
He’s moving his extremeties, is talking and lifted his head

47 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:28:24am

re: #45 Kragar

House GOPer: Shutdown ‘Is A Loser For Us’

Its real simple, dumbass.

1) Fund the Government
2) Hold weekly “defund Obamacare” votes, which will all go down in flames.

Winning.

Yeah the president is the one who wants to shut down the government , Raul. Were you in a madhouse in the 90’s when your party pulled this same exact shitty stunt on Clinton? Oh wait, don’t answer that since you’re a Teabagging fuckwad.

48 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:29:30am

re: #43 jaunte

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Just wait, preventing one’s self from getting cancer is personal responsibility.

49 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:30:09am

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

50 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:30:56am

re: #46 sattv4u2

Bad, but precautionary
He’s moving his extremeties, is talking and lifted his head

Yeah, I saw that. The worst part was seeing that player’s dad in the stands. The commentators were even offering their credentials to the guy as he was shown running back to try and get to his kid.

51 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:31:17am

Texas First Lady Calls Abortion ‘A Woman’s Right’

Perry’s husband, Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R), has helped push through a slew of laws restricting and eroding access to abortion in the state. He is on record deriding the idea that the right to privacy extends to abortion, and has signed a pledge urging opposition to abortion “without exception and without compromise,” and explicitly stated that his goal is to make abortion in Texas “a thing of the past.”

Apparently, his wife does not agree. When asked at an interview at the Texas Tribune Festival if she thinks the governor’s administration “got it right” on abortion policy, Anita Perry immediately responded, “Well, that’s really difficult for me.” And while she clearly expressed personal opposition to abortion, she twice referred to that choice as “a woman’s right.”

INTERVIEWER: Your view is: governor’s got it right, the administration has it right.

ANITA PERRY: Well, that’s really difficult for me Evan because I see it as a woman’s right. If they want to do that, that is their decision. They have to live with that decision.

INTERVIEWER: Mrs. Perry I want to be sure that you didn’t just inadvertently make news. Are you saying that you believe that abortion is a woman’s right — to make that choice?

PERRY: It is not mine. It is not something that I would say for them.

INTERVIEWER: Do you believe that the state is attempting to say for them? And that if the governor and the administration had its way it would say for women that it is not their right?

PERRY: I think it goes back to the states and Texas has decided that no that is not what we want in the state.

INTERVIEWER: But your personal point of view is that it’s a person’s decision within the law to make that choice?

PERRY: Well I don’t really think that’s making news. I mean, I think that yeah, that could be a woman’s right. Just like it’s a man’s right if he wants to have some kind of procedure.

52 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:31:53am

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense.

I stopped reading right there.

Ted Cruz only makes sense if you’re illiterate, high, or massively uninformed.

53 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:32:15am

Here we go.

54 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:32:18am

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

Glad they started NEVER after prohibition was repealed.

55 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:33:28am

Government decided we have to drive on the right hand side of the road to keep people from crashing into each other, and they’re NEVER GOING TO LET US BE FREE AGAIN!

56 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:33:29am

re: #49 not_sure

I’m not of any political party

Says a shocking % of people who voted twice for George W. Bush, ever since about 2006 or so.

57 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:33:36am

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

Oh, you’re a nitwit. Why didn’t you just say that?

58 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:33:46am

re: #39 HappyWarrior

Neither party gives a shit about the US citizens. Never have, never will.

59 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:34:00am

re: #51 Kragar

IIRC, Laura Bush felt the same.

60 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:34:06am

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

The thing is this law was passed. It was debated, it has survived numerous repeal attempts, and the Supreme Court, headed by a man who many in Cruz’s party have claimed should be a judicial role model affirmed its constitutionality. You don’t get to threaten to shut down the government because you don’t like legislation. For example, I thought the Bush tax cuts while simultaneously fighting two wars was a stupid and wrongheaded policy, would it have been right for the Dems in the House to threaten shutdown over that? And please spare me the hyperbole about government power when this very same party proposed what we call today Obamacare as an alternative to the Clinton’s proposals in the 90’s and even Barack Obama’s opponent had exacted in Massachusetts. And this is also the party that wants to use the government to guilt trip women who want to get a legal procedure, abortion so I don’t want to hear it from them about big government when they’re perfectly happy to use it when they have an agenda.

61 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:34:31am

Lol.

62 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:34:49am

re: #54 Eventual Carrion

What about the BATF, dumbshit.

63 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:34:51am

re: #58 not_sure

Ah. So because your Cruz fanboying didn’t work, now you’re going with the “Both Sides Suck Equally!” fail.

64 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:35:19am

OK, well then. I’m off to Audiobookland.

65 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:35:38am

bbl

66 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:35:47am

re: #62 not_sure

What about the BATF, dumbshit.

You get your news from Alex Jones and Drudge, don’t you?

67 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:35:55am

re: #58 not_sure

Neither party gives a shit about the US citizens. Never have, never will.

Yeah and you’re just above it all aren’t you? It’s people like you are why we got idiots like Ted Cruz in office in the first place. I’ll tell you this much. The Democratic Party isn’t ideal but it’s not full of know-nothing imbeciles like Cruz who offer no solutions, just bitching because they don’t like how things are.

68 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:35:55am

Say one thing Cruz said that makes sense.

Just one.

69 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:36:12am

You’re all going to die anyway. You don’t get out of this life alive. Thankfully, neither do your opinions.

70 sagehen  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:37:06am

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but …

LIAR.

71 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:37:38am

re: #62 not_sure

What about the BATF, dumbshit.

And I’ll leave you to resume your miserable little life with a hearty fuck off.

72 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:37:40am

Oh boy. This one’s not even worth grilling, too gamey.

73 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:37:48am

re: #69 not_sure

So now we’ve moved to jaded nihilism? Okay then.

74 labman57  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:38:02am

The prejudicial presumptions and favorite right wing/tea party talking points — that those who are out of work would prefer to subsist on welfare rather than be gainfully employed, and that only unemployed people need food stamps and/or lack health insurance — are completely baseless and perpetuate the ignorance-based stereotype of people in need as being lazy parasites on society … no doubt a deliberate tactical decision by the callous propaganda peddlers in the right wing blogosphere.

In addition, many conservatives indignantly point out that the United States has the best medical care available anywhere in the world. This may or may not be true, but it totally misses the point.

If people are denied or cannot afford to pay for health insurance coverage, let alone their own (or their children’s) preventative care or chronic illness medical treatments, then as far as medical care availability is concerned, there’s no there there.

The Congressional GOP to constituents: “Can’t make ends meet? No health care coverage? It sucks to be you!

75 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:38:06am

re: #69 not_sure

U mad bro?

76 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:38:20am

re: #72 SnowdenBaggerVance

Oh boy. This one’s not even worth grilling, too gamey.

That’s not gamey. It’s roadkill.

77 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:39:05am
78 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:39:10am

This doofus doesn’t get it. My husband has a job, his employer pays for HIS insurance, not mine, not our son’s. It’s around 160 a month just for The Husband, add me, it jumps to 415 a month. Add our son and it doubles again. Fucked up thing, if I had 6 kids, it costs the same as one. So, we put me on the Husband’s insurance and bought a stand alone policy for the kid. That saves us about 300 a month, but this is killing us. And I doubt I can get off his insurance and go on the exchange and I’m not sure the kid will be allowed to because the Husband’s work offers it. As it is, we’re forking out 250 bucks a paycheck just for insurance, when you’re only bringing home around 1500 a paycheck, that’s a big chunk of change. If I was bringing in 175K(and this ain’t his only income, I’d bet money on that-most congresscritters come from other more lucrative careers) a year I probably wouldn’t be worried about the cost either, but damn, what a DICK thing to say to people. People ARE working you bloated sac of protoplasm, they just aren’t being PAID for an honest day’s work.

I wonder if these assholes are pissed because they have to go on the same insurance exchanges as everyone else now? Which makes their healthcare less “special” or something.

79 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:39:13am

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

80 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:39:56am

So do you have any plans to actually make health care you know easier to afford and more accessible or are you just going to bitch at us because we have the gall to think that Ted Cruz isn’t the greatest thing of senatorial sliced bread. ACA isn’t ideal legislation but I see no real alternatives being offered by the Republicans to it. They’d rather return to the status quo where it’s okay for insurers to deny people coverage based on conditions they have no control over. Pardon my language but as an American with an uncontrollable heart condition, fuck that, fuck that forever.

81 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:40:16am

re: #79 not_sure

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Nope, that’s our sarcasm, sport.

82 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:40:19am

That’s what we call a metaphor.

83 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:40:35am

re: #79 not_sure

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Free stuff? Yeah me wanting not to be denied coverage of my heart condition is just me wanting free stuff. Take your stupid rhetoric elsewhere.

84 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:40:45am

re: #79 not_sure

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

… says the douche with the vitriol. Good bye asshole.

85 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:40:59am

Looks like its time to cue up the Bon Jovi

86 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:41:05am

re: #79 not_sure

Youtube Video

87 sagehen  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:41:12am

re: #68 SnowdenBaggerVance

Say one thing Cruz said that makes sense.

Just one.

{{he has really nice hair? and his suit is well-tailored??}}

88 Dr. Matt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:42:12am

re: #49 not_sure

” …..but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”.”

Dumbest.Statement.of.the.Day

89 not_sure  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:42:20am

Go on with your liberal circle-jerk. Sooner or later someone will get off.

90 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:42:54am

Always the projection.

91 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:43:02am

re: #89 not_sure

Go on with your liberal circle-jerk. Sooner or later someone will get off.

I wake up in the morning
And I raise my weary head
I got an old coat for a pillow
And the earth was last night’s bed…

Youtube Video

92 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:43:28am

Hey I want a downding!!111!11

93 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:07am

re: #89 not_sure

What’s with you guys and the constant sexual references???

94 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:18am

liberal circle jerk? I thought you hated both party’s? Wouldn’t it be a political circle jerk?

95 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:30am

re: #89 not_sure

Youtube Video

96 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:36am

You liberals with your circle vitriol!

97 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:40am

re: #92 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Hey I want a downding!!111!11

I just tried, but couldn’t go through with it…you are just too freaking awesome.

98 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:44:54am

re: #93 Varek Raith

What’s with you guys and the constant sexual references???

Sexual repression is a hell of a thing.

99 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:45:02am

re: #92 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Okely dokely!

100 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:46:01am

re: #92 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Thanks Varek! It would have been more speacialisty coming from who’s his name, not sure?

101 andres  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:46:37am

re: #81 Varek Raith

Nope, that’s our sarcasm, sport.

For one, he’s right. I mean, he lowered this board IQ so much, we’d need to get a special delivery from China to get it back.

//

102 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:47:44am
103 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:48:18am

re: #101 andres

For one, he’s right. I mean, he lowered this board IQ so much, we’d need to get a special delivery from China to get it back.

//

This one is boring & unoriginal. We need better quality trolls.

104 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:49:38am

re: #103 CuriousLurker

Troll? Does anyone want me to drag out the Weber and grill the troll?

105 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:49:53am


And ignore that those same people elected their Senators and the President.

106 andres  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:50:03am

re: #103 CuriousLurker

Hard to argue that. This one had a problem of premature implosion. Can we get a refund for trolls?

107 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:50:08am

re: #101 andres

For one, he’s right. I mean, he lowered this board IQ so much, we’d need to get a special delivery from China to get it back.

//

wheat-doggazi, save us!

108 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:50:09am

re: #104 PhillyPretzel

Troll? Does anyone want me to drag out the Weber and grill the troll?

Not even worth it.

109 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:50:17am
110 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:50:25am

re: #102 Lidane

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Yeah I missed the whole President signing the bill into law thing. I even remember the president’s party going from controlling the House to losing it. And a whole Supreme Court case. Listen, we had the debate over it and despite the right wing hypocrisy/hysteria over the issue, we had it and it was for the best but it’s been passed, the president has signed it in to law, John Roberts and four other members of the USSC affirmed its constitutionality, and despite what the TP caucus in the House thinks, President Obama nor the senate isn’t going to repeal it. If the GOP wants to work on making ACA more efficient and effective, by all means, but please stop threatening the government because you’re bitter that the above has happened.

111 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:51:35am

re: #105 Kragar

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And ignore that those same people elected their Senators and the President.

It was the will of the people to put in that Congress that passed ACA too numbnuts. And a lot of people object to ACA because it wasn’t extensive enough but let’s act like all of it’s a blanket of know nothing right wing assholes who think ACA is big government tyranny but want to tell people who they can consensually fuck.

112 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:52:12am

Fact checking Raffy “Ted” Cruz’s Meet the Press Obamacare lies

First, on his claim that Congress is exempt , CNN begs to differ (h/t: Reader Riccardo Cabeza). Congress isn’t exempt.
politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com
………………
And finally, Raffy laughably said the Affordable Care Act “is not working.” Actually, the parts that have been implemented are working:

- Children can now stay on their parent’s insurance until they are 26

- Preventive health services are already being covered

- Big Insurance must spend at least 80% of the money a person pays in to pay for their treatment, and if a company exceeds the limit, it must pay rebates, money that many of us have already received

- Insurance companies can no longer deny coverage to children with pre-existing medical conditions

- The Medicare “doughnut hole” has been closed

113 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:52:19am

I still can’t wrap my head around the position of “we were for this concept until a black guy suggested it should be law and then it was the ABSOLUTE WORST THING EVER DIE DIE DIE.”

But then again, I’m just a low-IQ liberal, I guess.

114 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:53:13am
Big Insurance must spend at least 80% of the money a person pays in to pay for their treatment

FREE STUFF!

115 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:53:33am

I’ve never seen so much debate after the fact about a law that has already been passed and had its legality affirmed. Can’t wait until we elect a Black atheist Jewish lesbian as president. And then we won’t even get post office namings passed the House without the GOP caucus throwing a shit fit.

116 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:53:58am

re: #103 CuriousLurker
Yeah, he blitz trolled. If we use the the Quantico FBI profiling system for serial killers, blitzing is a sign of an unsophisticated or immature troller.
We’ve had better.

/

117 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:54:33am

re: #92 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Hey I want a downding!!111!11

If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t get one either. I haven’t felt so excluded since Eclectic Infidel left me off of his “traitors to free speech” list.

118 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:54:38am

re: #105 Kragar

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And ignore that those same people elected their Senators and the President.

How in any universe is getting a million less votes than the Democrats “the will of the people?”

119 Drimble Wedge  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:54:59am

TerroristsExtortingAmerica Party

120 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:55:13am

re: #118 BongCrodny

How in any universe is getting a million less votes than the Democrats “the will of the people?”

Duh, the votes for Democrats don’t count because those weren’t the right votes.

121 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:55:19am

re: #118 BongCrodny

How in any universe is getting a million less votes than the Democrats “the will of the people?”

Because Republican Jesus. And freedom. Duh.

122 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:55:25am

re: #119 Drimble Wedge

TerroristsEextortingAmerica Party

Toddlers.

123 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:55:34am

re: #117 bratwurst

If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t get one either. I haven’t felt so excluded since Eclectic Infidel left me off of his “traitors to free speech” list.

Hahahahahahaha

124 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:55:38am

re: #69 not_sure

Youtube Video

125 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:56:14am

Ted Cruz quotes:

“When my father came over here penniless with $100 sewn into his underwear…”

Penniless, except for $100 bucks in 1957.

126 A Man for all Seasons  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:56:33am

re: #69 not_sure

You’re all going to die anyway. You don’t get out of this life alive. Thankfully, neither do your opinions.

You are something.. The Gov’t is making sure HC is offered for the poor, young and those with pre-existing conditions..Something current insurers don’t want to do. How is that a big power grab pal? Nobody wants to offer Flood insurance either..So the place you can buy it from is the US Government..Is that a power grab of your precious rights or is it an expansion of options to the consumer?
Sure we all die Einstein.. Perhaps you’ll want people to die without a doctor? Will you?

127 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:57:33am

Tea parties are for little kids and their imaginary friends.

128 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:57:42am

re: #120 klys

Duh, the votes for Democrats don’t count because those weren’t the right votes.

Yeah I love how the Tea Bag wave is the “will of the people” even though it was in a midterm election and turnout was low but the wave that rode Obama into office meant nothing in 2009. Will Fischer care about the will of the people the next time the Republicans lose control of the House? Does he care that the will of the people preferred Barack Obama to John McCain and later Mitt Romney or that Barack Obama is the only president since Reagan to get 50% of the vote in both elections? No, he doesn’t but the TP House we got stuck in because of apathy and right wing propaganda is what we should deem the will of the people.

129 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:58:32am

I think I got my first downding from this one. Aww. I feel all warm and cuddly now.

Lord. Sometimes one side of an argument is wrong. No nuance, no middle ground, they’re just wrong. I still don’t get where the idea of”free healthcare” came into things. That ER everyone likes to say is free is not at all free, trust me, I’ve got an ER bill from when I didn’t have insurance and I’m STILL paying on it 2 yrs later. None of this is free, it’s being administered by INSURANCE COMPANIES. You have to pay premiums,it’s just that they’ll have to be competitive and offer more for your money and the premiums aren’t going to be the massive cost they are now. Competition should lower prices across the board as more time passes and more people get into the pool. How is that so hard to understand? And how in the hell did we get to the place where having as many people as possible insured become some evildemondevilomgweareallgoingtodie nightmare?

130 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:58:58am

re: #125 Kragar

Ted Cruz quotes:

“When my father came over here penniless with $100 sewn into his underwear…”

Penniless, except for $100 bucks in 1957.

Yep. $100 in 1957 = $832.30 in 2013.

131 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 11:59:30am

At the start of the Meet The Press show, there’s clip from a Republican congressman saying “All Republicans are asking tonight, is give the nation a year to study a 2,500-page bill that even Speaker Pelosi hadn’t a clue as to what was in it.”

Dude. That bill passed THREE YEARS AGO. You’ve had THREE FUCKING YEARS to study that bill.

DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.

132 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:00:15pm

re: #125 Kragar

Ted Cruz quotes:

“When my father came over here penniless with $100 sewn into his underwear…”

Penniless, except for $100 bucks in 1957.

And his father was here and helped by a post-WWII government that wasn’t afraid to invest in its people. If Cruz wants to think his father only made it because of the underwear on his pants or that 100 dollars then I’ve got a bridge to sell him. We do make it in good part because of our individual initiative and smarts but there’s always help along the way. That could be a friend, teacher, family member, or gosh helpful government program. The president himself has pointed out he still struggled with student loan debts. This is the world we live in.

133 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:00:39pm

re: #117 bratwurst

Oh no! HA! I can’t stop laughing. That is one of the funniest things I have seen all week. I was wondering where EI went. guess he/she went the way of the dodo stalkers.

134 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:01:49pm

Ted Cruz Tries to Pass the Buck

“Sen. Ted Cruz desperately tried to blame Sen. Majority leader Harry Reid for the impending government shutdown during his appearance on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday morning. Cruz accused Harry Reid of using “brute political force” to fund Obamacare. “If we have a shutdown, it will be because Harry Reid holds that absolutist position and essentially holds the American people hostage,” Cruz said. Never mind that the Obamacare bill already passed both houses and was upheld by the Supreme Court: in the mind of Ted Cruz, this government shutdown is the Democrats’ fault because they won’t bend to Republican wishes….”

135 Dr. Matt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:02:03pm

re: #89 not_sure

Go on with your liberal circle-jerk. Sooner or later someone will get off.

How Freudian.

136 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:02:07pm

re: #131 BongCrodny

At the start of the Meet The Press show, there’s clip from a Republican congressman saying “All Republicans are asking tonight, is give the nation a year to study a 2,500-page bill that even Speaker Pelosi hadn’t a clue as to what was in it.”

Dude. That bill passed THREE YEARS AGO. You’ve had THREE FUCKING YEARS to study that bill.

DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.

Seriously, it’s been passed. Read passed. Do other laws that have been passed need this scrunity? I mean, I get it, the Republicans are mad because they lost this battle and they were so sure that John Roberts and the USSC was going to make them happy like pigs in shit last July when the USSC ruled on ACA but personal disappointment should not be rationalization for hijacking the government.

137 b_sharp  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:03:42pm

Just popped out for a sec and when I come back the floor has all these little turds all over it.

Damn you guys are messy.

138 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:03:46pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

I think I got my first downding from this one. Aww. I feel all warm and cuddly now.

Lord. Sometimes one side of an argument is wrong. No nuance, no middle ground, they’re just wrong. I still don’t get where the idea of”free healthcare” came into things. That ER everyone likes to say is free is not at all free, trust me, I’ve got an ER bill from when I didn’t have insurance and I’m STILL paying on it 2 yrs later. None of this is free, it’s being administered by INSURANCE COMPANIES. You have to pay premiums,it’s just that they’ll have to be competitive and offer more for your money and the premiums aren’t going to be the massive cost they are now. Competition should lower prices across the board as more time passes and more people get into the pool. How is that so hard to understand? And how in the hell did we get to the place where having as many people as possible insured become some evildemondevilomgweareallgoingtodie nightmare?

Downdings from a troll are badges of honor. Wear it with pride!

139 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:03:50pm

re: #127 Kragar

Tea parties are for little kids and their imaginary friends.

140 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:05:11pm

And fuck yeah, I’m angry people. I’m an American with a heart condition that in the past could be used to deny me coverage. A condition, I was diagnosed at the age of 14. I just got my first real post college job but ti’s with the Feds so the Republicans are okay with telling me to go to hell. I’m not looking for free stuff. I’m looking to live my life without interference from a party who talks about how they hate big bad government but also embraces telling people who they can love, that they’re sluts if they get raped, or if they dare to choose to get an abortion that they’re sinners. Or that I can’t enjoy a video game because they don’t want to discuss the absurdly easy access to guns in this country. Fuck the GOP. The Dems may not always been acting in my interests but they’re not actively trying to screw me like the Republicans are.

141 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:06:11pm

re: #140 HappyWarrior

And fuck yeah, I’m angry people. I’m an American with a heart condition that in the past could be used to deny me coverage. A condition, I was diagnosed at the age of 14. I just got my first real post college job but ti’s with the Feds so the Republicans are okay with telling me to go to hell. I’m not looking for free stuff. I’m looking to live my life without interference from a party who talks about how they hate big bad government but also embraces telling people who they can love, that they’re sluts if they get raped, or if they dare to choose to get an abortion that they’re sinners. Or that I can’t enjoy a video game because they don’t want to discuss the absurdly easy access to guns in this country. Fuck the GOP. The Dems may not always been acting in my interests but they’re not actively trying to screw me like the Republicans are.

But, but, magical balance fairy!

///

Seriously, preach on, brother.

142 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:07:06pm

re: #131 BongCrodny

Dude. That bill passed THREE YEARS AGO. You’ve had THREE FUCKING YEARS to study that bill.

The GOP don’t want to acknowledge that the ACA is settled law. They still call it a bill after all these years.

143 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:07:57pm

re: #46 sattv4u2

Massive hit in the Seattle/Houston game just now. They’re pulling out the stretcher and everything. Wow.

Bad, but precautionary
He’s moving his extremeties, is talking and lifted his head

It’s a protocol developed in the 1990s by the Miami-Dade EMTs in assigned to the Dolphins home games, that the league adopted and suggested that other teams should use.

The EMTs developed an oversized back board, as the industry standard backboards were too small.

And a field gurney with pneumatic tires to ease rolling a 300+ lb NFL player with possible spinal injuries off the field to a waiting ambulance in the tunnel.

144 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:08:18pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

145 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:08:37pm

.

146 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:09:08pm

re: #135 Dr. Matt

How Freudian.

Well, sometimes a circle jerk is just a circle jerk.

147 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:09:21pm

re: #145 jaunte

.

148 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:09:22pm

Ok, were those comments actually supposed to be blank? Did they show up that way for anyone else?

149 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:09:24pm

Okay make ACA a bill still and you give us back the Dems that were in Congress at the time and make Nancy Pelosi speaker again with Steny Hoyer being Majority Leader. If the GOP can act obtuse on this issue and act like ACA is still a bill that hasn’t been signed into law by President Obama yet or been affirmed by USSC, then two can play that game.

150 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:10:05pm

re: #148 klys

Ok, were those comments actually supposed to be blank? Did they show up that way for anyone else?

They were amazing comments full of insight and wisdom

Too bad you missed them

151 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:11:01pm
152 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:11:13pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

They were amazing comments full of insight and wisdom

Too bad you missed them

Oh well. It was probably over my head anyway.

Back to discrete mathematics…

153 You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:12:57pm

I’m so sick of this shit. I’m a veteran who gets disability payments from the government. I start my new job in another state in November, and I’m waiting on my checks so I can put a down payment on an apartment. If I don’t receive that money, I can’t move, so I can’t start my new job. I can only imagine the dread that people who receive medical care and other services are feeling right now. This is so much goddamn bullshit over legislation that will ensure that tens of millions of Americans can receive affordable health care.

154 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:13:36pm

re: #89 not_sure

Sad little wingnut. It hurts you to know that decent people look at you an laugh, doesn’t it?

155 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:14:36pm

re: #153 You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks

I’m so sick of this shit. I’m a veteran who gets disability payments from the government. I start my new job in another state in November, and I’m waiting on my checks so I can put a down payment on an apartment. If I don’t receive that money, I can’t move, so I can’t start my new job. I can only imagine the dread that people who receive medical care and other services are feeling right now. This is so much goddamn bullshit over legislation that will ensure that tens of millions of Americans can receive affordable health care.

The very real consequences to people’s lives isn’t what the TPtards are thinking about when they pull this shit - it’s all about ideological purity to them.

What state are you moving to?

156 RadicalModerate  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:14:48pm

A question for Senator Cruz:

Get a job to be able to get insurance?

As a fellow Texan, I would LOVE to get a job, as I’ve been out of work for the better part of four YEARS now, as a result of the economy crash.
The only reason I’m not homeless today, and avoided crippling debt is due to the fact that I had a significant amount of savings put back over the past fifteen years-plus of employment, which unfortunately is now completely depleted.
The worst part? I’m stuck when it comes to job prospects - because of the gap on my resume’, employers who are hiring at my skill level want recent experience, and entry-level work (that I would have to take a 40%-plus pay cut on) all say that I’m far too overqualified for consideration. It’s not due to a lack of effort on my part either - in the last month alone, I have filed applications with at least two dozen companies and staffing agencies. For my efforts I’ve gotten two return phone calls and one interview in the past four months’ time.

Because I’m a single male, over 40 but under 55, with no dependents, I don’t qualify for any state-level aid - even emergency rent assistance isn’t available - because to receive aid in Texas, you have to show proof of employment to qualify (in yet another case of catch-22).

Yeah. “Get a job”.

157 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:14:53pm
#49 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:30:09 am
I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when …

#58 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:33:46 am
re: #39 HappyWarrior Neither party gives a shit about the US citizens. Never have, never will.

#62 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:34:49 am
re: #54 Eventual Carrion What about the BATF, dumbshit.

#69 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:36:12 am
You’re all going to die anyway. You don’t get out of this life alive. Thankfully, neither do your opinions.

#79 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:39:13 am
I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

#89 not_sure :: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 11:42:20 am
Go on with your liberal circle-jerk. Sooner or later someone will get off.

LOL, I’ve gotta admit #79 is my favorite. It comes in here spewing nastiness and we’re the ones who’re vitriolic. Complete lack of self-awareness. Amazing.

Anyway, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

158 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:16:16pm
159 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:16:28pm

re: #113 klys

I still can’t wrap my head around the position of “we were for this concept until a black guy suggested it should be law and then it was the ABSOLUTE WORST THING EVER DIE DIE DIE.”

But then again, I’m just a low-IQ liberal, I guess.

Maybe they were never for changing the status quo, and just offered that up as a “plan” to oppose single-payer with no intention to ever implement anything at all.

160 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:16:29pm

Wish I had a dollar for every troll who’s ever followed exactly that same script at LGF.

161 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:17:11pm

re: #158 jaunte

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Is that sanity coming from the R caucus?

162 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:17:19pm

re: #158 jaunte

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Oh, he’s totally gonna get a Teahadi primary challenge for that remark.

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163 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:18:17pm

re: #161 HappyWarrior

Is that sanity coming from the R caucus?

Desperation. He’s probably getting an earful from his donor base to get the fuck over it and do his damn job.

164 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:18:20pm

re: #159 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe they were never for changing the status quo, and just offered that up as a “plan” to oppose single-payer with no intention to ever implement anything at all.

In the meantime, Massachusetts is probably like, “fuck, dude, it’s going to be ok. Stop freaking out already, will you?”

And somewhere, Romney is crying into his butler’s shoulder.

165 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:19:02pm

re: #10 Lidane

I’m watching football. Waaaay better for my stress levels today.

I’m completing Obamacare volunteer training modules, because I’m evil that way.

166 bratwurst  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:19:45pm

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Wish I had a dollar for every troll who’s ever followed exactly that same script at LGF.

The fact this one is a humorless bore certainly indicates that we are dealing with a libertarian here.

167 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:20:09pm

re: #165 Decatur Deb

I’m completing Obamacare volunteer training modules, because I’m evil that way.

Props to you!

I am ‘working’ on the problem set for my class this quarter. Which means for 15 minutes out of the hour, I cry and bang my head into it, and then I crochet for another 45 minutes.

Not really. I’m mostly just ignoring it at the moment.

168 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:20:26pm

If the government must shut down over this and I hope to whatever, it does not, I hope that this ruins the GOP in the court of public opinion. They’d have done this twice now should it occur. I don’t know what it is about the Republican Party but they’ve gone down a nasty path since Eisenhower was president. The party that once could call itself the party of Lincoln, TR, and Ike is now the party of Louie Gohmert, Michelle Bachmann, and Steve King. Instead of statesmen, they have hacks who prefer doing the bidding of a loud 30% of the country who will oppose anything President Obama does simply because they despise everything about President Obama from his party, his skin color, his city/state of origin, and everything in between.

169 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:20:54pm

re: #143 BeenHereAwhile

I’m blaming the previous post on trying to pose using a smartphone.

Back to yard work.

170 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:22:52pm

re: #168 HappyWarrior

If the government must shut down over this and I hope to whatever, it does not, I hope that this ruins the GOP in the court of public opinion. They’d have done this twice now should it occur. I don’t know what it is about the Republican Party but they’ve gone down a nasty path since Eisenhower was president. The party that once could call itself the party of Lincoln, TR, and Ike is now the party of Louie Gohmert, Michelle Bachmann, and Steve King. Instead of statesmen, they have hacks who prefer doing the bidding of a loud 30% of the country who will oppose anything President Obama does simply because they despise everything about President Obama from his party, his skin color, his city/state of origin, and everything in between.

I’m waiting for the inevitable historical revisionism where every government shutdown has been due to the Democrats failing to compromise and absolutely forcing the Republicans’ hand.

Preferably delivered by Senator Graham so I can get some quality Jon Stewart swoons out of it.

171 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:22:54pm

I guess this is a sign you’re getting old but getting confused over new names about newly wed women friends and cousins on facebook is surely a sign. Glad I’m not one of these people who needs thousands of FB friends.

172 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:23:54pm

re: #171 HappyWarrior

I guess this is a sign you’re getting old but getting confused over new names about newly wed women friends and cousins on facebook is surely a sign. Glad I’m not one of these people who needs thousands of FB friends.

Heh. I kept my name when I got married, since that was the name I published under. Added my husband’s last name to my middle name and he did the same with mine, because if I had to fill out all the damn name change paperwork so did he. :)

173 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:24:12pm
174 BongCrodny  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:25:01pm

re: #156 RadicalModerate

A question for Senator Cruz:

Get a job to be able to get insurance?

As a fellow Texan, I would LOVE to get a job, as I’ve been out of work for the better part of four YEARS now, as a result of the economy crash.

I was just thinking about this.

David Gregory says that 25% of Texans have no health insurance.

Senator Cruz says that the best way to get health insurance is to get a job.

Texas’s unemployment rate is 6.4%.

Somewhere there’s an 18.6% that Senator Cruz is ignoring.

175 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:25:35pm

I, for one, am going to do my part to ensure a better quality of trolling on LGF.

So, suck it up socialists. Like your “Obamascare” is anything but a quality-assurance program for the white slaves you appropriate for your underground lizard cultural Zionist overlords.

I’d insult you more, but I have to go the Church like a REAL AMERICAN should. So I leave you to kiss your giant bearded Mohammed bust like the infidel Templars you are.

176 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:25:46pm

re: #170 klys

I’m waiting for the inevitable historical revisionism where every government shutdown has been due to the Democrats failing to compromise and absolutely forcing the Republicans’ hand.

Preferably delivered by Senator Graham so I can get some quality Jon Stewart swoons out of it.

You know it’s coming. If only the president had just agreed to defund his signature accomplishment, then we wouldn’t have shut down the government. Y’all understand that we just have your best interests at heart and President Obama and the Democrats are pursuing a radical agenda. I just wish there was a moment where the Republican Party got exposed as the fucked up party they are. We need two things politically in this country. A truly classical liberal party, I don’t mean the libertarians because the libertarians party that we know is way too in love with Ron and Rand Paul and a more truly left wing party too.

177 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:26:04pm

I know plenty of people with jobs but not insurance, or shitty insurance that makes you think “what’s the point”.
I am lucky my husband has great benefits. Although he’s a Ranger combat Vet with full medical coverage, he decided to take a job with the Federal government for lower pay than another job he was offered, but much better benefits, so I could be covered well. It was very hard for him to get this job.

My job, on the other hand, has what many here (Texas) think of as good health coverage. Let’s put it this way, I could not afford to get sick under my insurance.

“Get a job” whatever Ted.

178 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:26:26pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

8.5/10 for effort. Needs moar wingnut font.

179 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:26:44pm

re: #173 jaunte

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When Roy Blunt is a voice of sanity, I think it’s time to take step back off the cliff but this will almost surely guarantee a primary challenge. I wonder if Todd Akin isn’t busy.

180 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:27:34pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

I, for one, am going to do my part to ensure a better quality of trolling on LGF.

So, suck it up socialists. Like your “Obamascare” is anything but a quality-assurance program for the white slaves you appropriate for your underground lizard cultural Zionist overlords.

I’d insult you more, but I have to go the Church like a REAL AMERICAN should. So I leave you to kiss your giant bearded Mohammed bust like the infidel Templars you are.

A good try but you didn’t have enough rage.

181 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:28:42pm

re: #167 klys

Props to you!

I am ‘working’ on the problem set for my class this quarter. Which means for 15 minutes out of the hour, I cry and bang my head into it, and then I crochet for another 45 minutes.

Not really. I’m mostly just ignoring it at the moment.

Taking a break before drowning in the Small Business modules. i remember why I didn’t start a small business.

182 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:29:10pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

I, for one, am going to do my part to ensure a better quality of trolling on LGF.

So, suck it up socialists. Like your “Obamascare” is anything but a quality-assurance program for the white slaves you appropriate for your underground lizard cultural Zionist overlords.

I’d insult you more, but I have to go the Church like a REAL AMERICAN should. So I leave you to kiss your giant bearded Mohammed bust like the infidel Templars you are.

Needs more rage.

And mispellings and grammatical errors. But not bad at all, I’d say.

183 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:29:20pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

A good try but you didn’t have enough rage.

Is there an emoticon for spittle?

184 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:30:31pm

re: #181 Decatur Deb

Taking a break before drowning in the Small Business modules. i remember why I didn’t start a small business.

I did, years ago

Three of them

Should have seen the look on my face when presented the mound of paperwork/ booklets I had to read and fill out JUST FROM THE STATE before I opened the door(s)

185 jaunte  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:30:58pm

A ‘wow moment’: Curiosity finds water on Mars as common as dirt

NASA’s Mars rover Curiosity has found that surface soil on the Red Planet contains about 2 percent water by weight. That means astronaut pioneers could extract roughly 2 pints (1 liter) of water out of every cubic foot (0.03 cubic meters) of Martian dirt they dig up

186 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:31:28pm

re: #173 jaunte

Poor Roy. That cannon in the pic next to him almost serves as a metaphor for his future in the party.

187 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:32:20pm

re: #183 Decatur Deb

Is there an emoticon for spittle?

:-P~

maybe

188 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:32:30pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

Needs more rage.

And mispellings and grammatical errors. But not bad at all, I’d say.

I was taught grammar by someone named Mrs. Grammar.

I have a creeping suspicion she’ll manifest like Candyman if I’m deliberately agrammatical. I keep a copy of Strunk & White’s Elements of Style on me as an atropophaic ward.

(but seriously she was the best substitute teacher ever, and totally saved my bacon w/r/t to a subject I was struggling with)

189 miclaine  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:33:25pm

re: #79 not_sure

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Dude you got no clue as to the history of this site or its proprietor. There are some way smart folks here, who wage some incredibly articulate arguments. Go join your lemmings and jump!

190 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:34:58pm

re: #187 Eventual Carrion

:-P~

maybe

Yeah. That or “Bronx Cheer”. Either will do.

191 sagehen  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:36:07pm

re: #178 Lidane

8.5/10 for effort. Needs moar wingnut font.

And slutz demanding the real murkins pay for their slut pills.

192 Amory Blaine  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:36:31pm

You all are stinky poopy heads!!!! Bow before my skillful debating style!!!!

193 Varek Raith  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:36:48pm

re: #192 Amory Blaine

You all are stinky poopy heads!!!! Bow before my skillful debating style!!!!

No U

194 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:36:59pm
195 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:38:11pm

re: #180 HappyWarrior

A good try but you didn’t have enough rage.

I don’t rage well. It’s all “I stab at thee, and your Fabian heart shall be flushed into hell to be Satan’s still-beating loofa.”

Not so much modern wingnut, more like Captain Ahab after he’s been at the acid blotter.

196 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:40:55pm
197 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:41:51pm
198 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:41:57pm

re: #196 Lidane

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Someone have to take you outside to pee!?!

199 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:42:50pm

re: #195 The Ghost of a Flea

I don’t rage well. It’s all “I stab at thee, and your Fabian heart shall be flushed into hell to be Satan’s still-beating loofa.”

Not so much modern wingnut, more like Captain Ahab after he’s been at the acid blotter.

Quality rage from King Lear:

Osw. What dost thou know me for?
Kent. A knave; a rascal; an eater of broken meats; a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, 1 hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave; a lily-livered, action-taking, whoreson, glass-gazing, superserviceable, finical rogue; one-trunk-inheriting 2 slave; one that wouldst be a bawd, in way of good service, and art nothing but the composition of a knave, beggar, coward, pandar, and the son and heir of a mongrel bitch; one whom I will beat into clamorous whining, if thou deni’st the least syllable of thy addition. 3

200 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:43:00pm

re: #198 sattv4u2

Nah. I have indoor plumbing, AC, and everything.

Heh.

201 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:43:13pm

re: #49 not_sure

If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

I can name a lot of powers that were given to the govenment that were given back. Like, there’s no draft on. You can say that a draft could come into play, so that power hasn’t been taken back, but functionally, it has. The power of the government to say that some people of different races were less equal and had fewer rights, that got taken back. That was a new power— race-based legislation was an invention.

You’d have to define your terms better, but since you’re really just spouting talking points I doubt you can.

202 You_Stole_Fizzy-Lifting_Drinks  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:45:17pm

re: #155 klys

What state are you moving to?

Illinois from Michigan. Its a great opportunity for me and my family, and we’re looking forward to settling down and raising a family.

203 A Mom Anon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:46:02pm

So here’s a question for the masses:

Do you think it’s possible that once the healthcare exchanges are up and running that prices overall will come down for employer based plans too? I’m still trying to figure out what’s going to happen in our family since The Husband’s new employer(since June) has made it so expensive to put anyone but him on the plan. But since the employer offers it, we can’t do the exchanges. My understanding is that you can opt out if 2 conditions are met, the premiums are more than 9.5 percent of your income AND (not or) they cover less than 60 percent of your costs when you make a claim. We’re yes on the first, no on the second.

Aetna and some smaller company they bought out (Coventry health or something like that) have opted out of GA’s exchanges which sounds kind of dumb to me, unless they are allowed to jack up the rates outside the exchanges. Otherwise why would you turn away thousands of new customers? I hope this all gets ironed out by the end of enrollment in the spring. I guess by then we’ll know what the real problems are not the made up ones. Hopefully the fixes aren’t that hard to implement.

204 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:48:36pm

re: #157 CuriousLurker

I see we had a live one….

205 Stanley Sea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:49:29pm

re: #117 bratwurst

If it makes you feel any better, I didn’t get one either. I haven’t felt so excluded since Eclectic Infidel left me off of his “traitors to free speech” list.

I forgot that I made it!

(I’m behind in the comments - lots of death going on on my TV)

206 Kragar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:49:38pm

Cruz: I Didn’t Compare Defund Obamacare Skeptics To Nazi Appeasers

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) asserted Sunday that he didn’t compare those skeptical of his defund Obamacare effort to Nazi appeasers during his 21-hour quasi-filibuster last week.

“The premise of your question isn’t true. I didn’t make that comparison,” Cruz said when asked by Meet The Press host David Gregory if he regretted the comments. “I went through the centuries where, over and over again, when facing big challenges, Americans have risen to the occasion… At every stage, there were the voices of conventional wisdom that said this can’t be done, and every time, Americans have risen to the challenge.”


Cruz Likens Obamacare Defunding Skeptics To Nazi Appeasers (VIDEO)

During a floor speech Tuesday aimed at reviving the already-dim prospects for his effort to defund Obamacare, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) likened his doubters to Nazi appeasers.

“If you go to the 1940s, Nazi Germany,” Cruz said. “Look, we saw in Britain, Neville Chamberlain, who told the British people, ‘Accept the Nazis. Yes, they’ll dominate the continent of Europe but that’s not our problem. Let’s appease them. Why? Because it can’t be done. We can’t possibly stand against them.’”

“And in America there were voices that listened to that,” he continued. “I suspect those same pundits who say it can’t be done, if it had been in the 1940s we would have been listening to them. Then they would have made television. They would have gotten beyond carrier pigeons and beyond letters and they would have been on tv and they would have been saying, ‘You cannot defeat the Germans.’”

207 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:50:11pm
I think my favorite crazy line was that Harry Reid wants to use “brute political force” to fund the Affordable Care Act — a law that was passed years ago —

Harry Reid and Dems trying to ram the healthcare bill down are throats!!!11

208 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:50:17pm

re: #204 Bulworth

I see we had a live one….

More like road kill that had a few gasps of air left.

209 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:50:35pm

re: #199 Decatur Deb

It’s all excellent, but Eater of broken meats for the win.

210 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:52:27pm

Goddamnit Schaub. Seriously? WTF. Why would you throw there?

So much for my stress levels today.

211 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:52:42pm

re: #209 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s all excellent, but Eater of broken meats for the win.

Found that looking for Kent’s threat to “..spread you over the walls of a jakes”. Our tiny school still used ‘jakes’ for ‘toilet’.

212 calochortus  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:52:53pm

I will admit to be nervous about what we’ll have to pay for our Kaiser plan this coming year. It is already extortionate, and we’re moving up into a new age bracket this year. Now we could presumably find cheaper insurance on the exchanges, but that would mean finding new doctors and all. I’m hoping to be pleasantly surprised, but at least there should be time to look around at options if I’m very unpleasantly surprised.

Regardless, I am very happy that people with preexisting conditions will be able to get insurance. We’ve bought our own healthcare insurance for years and I know exactly how insurance companies get rid of the people they don’t want (even though we, fortunately, are pretty healthy.)

213 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:53:48pm

re: #210 Lidane

Goddamnit Schaub. Seriously? WTF. Why would you throw there?

So much for my stress levels today.

over 2;30 to go

3 timeouts left

all you need is a field goal

214 missliberties  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:54:14pm

re: #49 not_sure

Regulating insurance companies to actually provide healthcare while not bankrupting you is so just like Stalin’s Germany and Hitlers Communist Russia.

215 Political Atheist  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:54:35pm

Working weekend so not much time to lurk. Anyone up for a little drive by beauty? Annas Hummingbird at close range on my porch.
Paged

Or click the image at the blog for high res 3meg image. No copyright, grab it if you like it.

Happy Sunday

216 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:54:57pm

re: #211 Decatur Deb

Found that looking for Kent’s threat to “..spread you over the walls of a jakes”. Our tiny school still used ‘jakes’ for ‘toilet’.

I really wish back in high school when I was forced to read Shakespeare, that someone would have explained the ribald parts.

Because those were some grim slogs through mangled language.

217 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:55:31pm

re: #213 sattv4u2

over 2;30 to go

3 timeouts left

all you need is a field goal

True. But still, that’s annoying. Blah.

218 Amory Blaine  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:57:31pm

Someone should remind Rafael that the US entered the war after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.

219 HappyWarrior  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:57:41pm

re: #206 Kragar

Cruz: I Didn’t Compare Defund Obamacare Skeptics To Nazi Appeasers


Cruz Likens Obamacare Defunding Skeptics To Nazi Appeasers (VIDEO)

Uh yeah you did asshole and you also likened yourself to a Bataan Death March survivor. Fucking nimwit thinks he can say stupid shit and then claim he didn’t and somehow that means it didn’t happen. Cruz can go fuck off. Enjoy being the GOP flavor of the month, Ted, you’ll be next month’s news as soon as you dare to be reasonable on a single issue like Marco “remember me” Rubio.

220 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:58:56pm

re: #49 not_sure

I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense.

Fuck you. I have a job. I work for myself but can’t purchase insurance on the individual market at any price. Before 2010, ACA and the PCIP program, I couldn’t purchase insurance at all, had to put off many things, working for myself and taking the time to finish my Masters thesis so I could work for assholes just to maintain health insurance.

Why don’t people like you just crawl into a hole and drink yourselves into a coma, you add nothing to society.

221 CarolJ  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 12:59:14pm

re: #126 A Man for all Seasons

No. not_sure wants them to die too early. Serves them right for being poor, born with a disability or not getting married to someone with health insurance.

222 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:05:23pm

*sigh*

Overtime? Really? Dammit.

223 plansbandc  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:09:24pm

Shocked it’s possible, but I actually like Cruz less than Dubya. Frustrated to the extreme by the hostility and stupidity of the Republican party.

224 Charles Johnson  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:10:04pm
225 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:11:32pm

re: #46 sattv4u2

Bad, but precautionary
He’s moving his extremeties, is talking and lifted his head

Players CT scan,, negative damage

He’s heading back to the stadium

226 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:12:02pm
227 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:13:28pm
228 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:16:56pm

re: #227 Lidane

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Exactly. The GOP are behaving like common blackmailers.

To hell with them.

229 sizzzzlerz  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:17:06pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

Needs more caps.

230 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:18:11pm

re: #58 not_sure

Neither party gives a shit about the US citizens. Never have, never will.

Projection much?

231 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:18:57pm

re: #221 CarolJ

No. not_sure wants them to die too early. Serves them right for being poor, born with a disability or not getting married to someone with health insurance.

Gotta love people who aren’t comfortable with Darwin, but are really comfortable with Social Darwinism.

Note: Social Darwinism contains 0% Darwin by volume. Consumption of too much Social Darwinism may result in intermittent class warfare and overly-deterministic colon syndrome, In rare cases, exposure to Social Darwinism will result in Fabian inflammations (aka Wells’ complaint) or acute foppery. Symptoms of Social Darwinist overdose include ridiculous trousers, foxhunting, and dirty looks from George Bernard Shaw..

232 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:19:56pm
233 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:23:47pm

re: #229 sizzzzlerz

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

Needs more caps.

SAYS THE COMMUNIST LACKEY.

Why don’t you just call up the black helicopters and have me sent to the Solevetsky Islands?

Do it, Judas. Earn your twelve pieces of George Soros Fun Money. Pick out a jaunty turban from the prize cage.

The prize cage of JIHAD

234 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:24:06pm

re: #231 The Ghost of a Flea

Gotta love people who aren’t comfortable with Darwin, but are really comfortable with Social Darwinism.

Note: Social Darwinism contains 0% Darwin by volume. Consumption of too much Social Darwinism may result in intermittent class warfare and overly-deterministic colon syndrome, In rare cases, exposure to Social Darwinism will result in Fabian inflammations (aka Wells’ complaint) or acute foppery. Symptoms of Social Darwinist overdose include ridiculous trousers, foxhunting, and dirty looks from George Bernard Shaw..

Brilliant.

235 Lancelot Link  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:24:28pm

re: #220 goddamnedfrank

Why don’t people like you just crawl into a hole and drink yourselves into a coma, you add nothing to society.

That’s too good for the likes of them. Besides, that’s my job.

236 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:28:48pm
237 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:30:42pm
238 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:32:25pm

re: #236 Lidane

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The only explanation is, Ted Cruz is a neutrino moving faster than light.

239 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:33:55pm
240 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:35:21pm

re: #239 Lidane

The really obvious reply to the GOP shutting down the press conference is “Well, they’re good at that.”

241 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:35:23pm

re: #239 Lidane

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…and that proves it. Weakly interacting subatomic particles are notoriously thin-skinned.

242 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:38:13pm

re: #239 Lidane

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I don’t know who she was or where she said it, but I love her!

243 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:39:23pm

re: #239 Lidane

Clearly, she was a democratic plant.

244 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:42:45pm

CL throws door open, comes stumbling into room wild-eyed, breathless, and gagging.

Gaahhhhh! WTF?? Brain bleach, hot shower, stat!

Having forgotten who in the hell Theodore Dalrymple is, I followed a link from my Google alerts to a thread on his website about Fjordman. The posters are total fan boys and one of them… I can’t even…

Conversely, more and more libertarians and right-thinking people (there is now a growing counter-movement at last - you know this!) are tentatively saying that, for all the horror, there were some aspects of Nazi Germany that were proper and correct. Unfortunately (or rather not) they are probably right.

I just… how can… arrrghhhhh!

CL runs back out of room tearing at hair, remembering that there are some tubes on the interwebs that she REALLY wishes she’d remained ignorant of.

245 celticdragon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:43:14pm
or maybe it was Cruz’s idiotic, heartless advice to people who need health insurance: “get a job.”

From a guy who has never worked in the private sector.

These people aren’t just heartless Randroid sociopaths. I am really beginning to believe that they are intrinsically evil on some level.

They actually want people to starve, sicken and die if they come up on the losing side of our powerball lottery economy. You saw audiences cheer for that explicit outcome in the GOP debates.

When we wonder how Germans allowed people to be put into the camps or why they did not feel a common bond of humanity with German and French Jews…we can look back at the GOP audience members who shouted “Let them die!” when the moderator asked about treating sick people without insurance. The same hate for “the other” is alive and well right here.

246 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:44:37pm

re: #239 Lidane

what happened?

247 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:47:18pm

I’m waiting for it to sink in that it’s now the official position of the Republican party, self styled champions of small business, that self employment isn’t real employment.

248 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:48:44pm

Maybe I should hire someone to scrub my balls full time so I can purchase insurance on the small business exchange.

249 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:49:22pm

“I”m a very important executive and my nuts should be clean!”

-Louis Black

250 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:49:40pm

re: #246 Bulworth

what happened?

I’m looking for a story on it now. Apparently, House GOP gave a presser where they tried to spin everything as being the Senate’s fault and how any shutdown should be blamed on the Dems and some woman just went off, letting them have it.

251 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:49:43pm

re: #244 CuriousLurker

Take your shower and relax. Sit back and read a good novel.

252 celticdragon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:51:18pm

re: #4 Dr. Matt

So, the ACA has not even been fully implemented, yet according to the teatards the ACA is:

*killing Americans…literally
*rationing health care
*killing jobs
*killing the economy
*raising the cost of health care
*shutting down small businesses

Did I forget anything?

Uh…let’s see…Obamacare:

Blew up those three British battlecruisers at Jutland in 1916…

Caused Krakatoa to blow sky high and kill thousands in one giant death panel

Killed Edward V of England and Richard of Shrewsbury in the Tower of London during the Wars of the Roses

Dropped the Chicxulub bolide on Yucatan and wiped out most of the dinosaurs (those pesky death panels again)

Caused the End Permian mass extinction (DEATH PANELS!!11TY!)

Was also the name of Banastre Tarleton’s horse when he slaughtered American revolutionary soldiers try to surrender at the Battle of Waxhaws.

253 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:52:03pm

re: #250 Lidane

I’m looking for a story on it now. Apparently, House GOP gave a presser where they tried to spin everything as being the Senate’s fault and how any shutdown should be blamed on the Dems and some woman just went off, letting them have it.

Forty-four percent of individuals said they would blame Republicans if the government shuts down on Oct.1, according to a CBS/New York Times poll, while 35 percent of respondents would blame President Obama and congressional Democrats. The poll, conducted Sept. 19-23 among 1,014 adults nationwide, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.

Read more: thehill.com
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254 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:52:10pm

Obamacare gave us Jar Jar Binks.

255 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:53:32pm

re: #253 sattv4u2

Well, yes. But the House GOP is currently in desperation mode, trying to shift blame away from their own obstructionism.

256 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:53:58pm
257 celticdragon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:54:42pm

re: #8 Dr Lizardo

Ted Cruze. I nominate him for Asshole Of The Year, and that’s saying something, because he’s got a lot of competition.

I wonder how far this kind of smug, insufferable hatred of lesser people will get him in the Presidential primaries. Even the GOP diehards in Iowa may start to take offense at some point.

258 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:55:32pm

re: #252 celticdragon

Uh…let’s see…Obamacare:

Blew up those three British battlecruisers at Jutland in 1916…

Caused Krakatoa to blow sky high and kill thousands in one giant death panel

Killed Edward V of England and Richard of Shrewsbury in the Tower of London during the wears of the Roses

Dropped the Chicxulub bolide on Yucatan and wiped out most of the dinosaurs (those pesky death panels again)

Caused the End Permian mass extinction (DEATH PANELS!!11TY!)

Was also the name of Banastre Tarleton’s horse when he slaughtered American revolutionary soldiers try to surrender at the Battle of Waxhaws.

The Aztec god Huitzilpochtli, to whom thousands upon thousands were sacrificed by having their hearts carved out with an obsidian blade, is depicted holding a three-ring binder containing the outline of a universal healthcare plan.

259 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:56:18pm

re: #257 celticdragon

I wonder how far this kind of smug, insufferable hatred of lesser people will get him in the Presidential primaries. Even the GOP diehards in Iowa may start to take offense at some point.

I don’t know….the GOP is rapidly degenerating into a party of smug, insufferable hateful people, so this might actually stand him in good stead.

260 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:56:44pm

Does the Canuck shmuck not understand that not all JRRBZ come with health insurance? For example, all the part-time JRRBZ creeyated by TEH GREATEST JRRB CREEYATERS OF ALL TIMES!!!11!!!! do not include health insurance.

261 EPR-radar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:56:59pm

Teabaggers are so devoid of empathy that in their version of Idiocracy, the television show ‘Ow my balls’ would be a flop because no men in the audience would be able to comprehend that the actors are in pain, thereby making it non-funny.

262 Mattand  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:57:12pm

re: #258 The Ghost of a Flea

The Aztec god Huitzilpochtli, to whom thousands upon thousands were sacrificed by having their hearts carved out with an obsidian blade, is depicted holding a three-ring binder containing the outline of a universal healthcare plan.

Sweeney Todd was known to have lured victims into his barber shop by promising not to deny anyone for pre-existing conditions.

263 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:57:15pm

re: #248 goddamnedfrank

Maybe I should hire someone to scrub my balls full time so I can purchase insurance on the small business exchange.

Or massage them with a silk handkerchief. (I think I may have mentioned before that there’s a Persian idiom that’s the equivalent of our “kissing ass”, but it literally translates into massaging someone’s testicles with a silk handkerchief.)

LOL, okayyyyy, I’m clearly losing it—time to close the spy and really leave.

264 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:57:32pm

re: #255 Lidane

Well, yes. But the House GOP is currently in desperation mode, trying to shift blame away from their own obstructionism.

The question in satt’s poll is also completely contextless, it just asks who’s to blame if there’s a shutdown. It gives no information about the cause of the hypothetical shutdown, and other polls have already established that the tactic of holding the budget hostage to ending or delaying the ACA is enormously unpopular.

265 Mattand  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:57:57pm

re: #255 Lidane

Well, yes. But the House GOP is currently in desperation mode, trying to shift blame away from their own obstructionism.

I unfortunately have seen that plan working first hand.

266 aagcobb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:58:53pm

re: #257 celticdragon

I wonder how far this kind of smug, insufferable hatred of lesser people will get him in the Presidential primaries. Even the GOP diehards in Iowa may start to take offense at some point.

Not as long as he remains an acolyte of supply-side Jebus, who hates poor people and loves the rich./

267 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 1:58:59pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

The question in satt’s poll is also completely contextless

umm,, errrr

according to a CBS/New York Times poll,

I don’t have time to call 1,014 adults nationwide

268 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:00:41pm


You know, because they’re a “pro-life” party that is all about Christian compassion.

269 celticdragon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:00:52pm

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

Yes…I really like having the power to get sick and injured and then incur medical bills and debt that I cannot possibly pay for because FREEDUMB!!!!

270 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:00:54pm

re: #264 goddamnedfrank

The question in satt’s poll is also completely contextless, it just asks who’s to blame if there’s a shutdown. It gives no information about the cause of the hypothetical shutdown, and other polls have already established that the tactic of holding the budget hostage to ending or delaying the ACA is enormously unpopular.

Remember that the 1995 shutdown only really turned on Republicans after it came out that Gingrich did it because he was unhappy with his Air Force One seating arrangements. The fact that 44% are willing to blame Republicans in a poll totally devoid of context doesn’t bode well for them at all.

271 EPR-radar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:01:28pm

re: #266 aagcobb

Not as long as he remains an acolyte of supply-side Jebus, who hates poor people and loves the rich./

Praise Prosperity Gospel Jayzus and the Golden Bull Market he rode in on. All glory to Mammon most high, for ever and ever, amen.

272 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:01:35pm
273 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:02:05pm

re: #268 Lidane

[Embedded content]


You know, because they’re a “pro-life” party that is all about Christian compassion.

It’s like their family Bible is from that Star Trek episode with the evil mirror universe.

Does the Bible have a beard? THIS IS IMPORTANT.

274 aagcobb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:02:54pm

re: #49 not_sure

I dunno. I’m not of any political party but Cruz actually makes sense. I know the liberals out there will disagree but you don’t enact laws so we can find out if people will “like them”. If there is one thing that is obvious over the last 100+ years, when power is given to government over our lives, it is NEVER given back. NEVER, EVER!

Exhibit 1 proving this false: the repeal of Prohibition, which required a constitutional amendment.

275 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:03:58pm

re: #273 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s like their family Bible is from that Star Trek episode with the evil mirror universe.

Does the Bible have a beard? THIS IS IMPORTANT.

If you want a pretty good idea of the wingnut bible reads like, I highly recommend ‘The Satanic Bible’ by Anton LaVey.

Seriously; it reads like a good many GOP talking points.

276 Mattand  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:04:03pm

re: #268 Lidane

My theory of what GOP is up to: They very sincerely believe that it’s deeply immoral for the government to spend on helping the poor.

You know, because they’re a “pro-life” party that is all about Christian compassion.

The ironic thing is the many of the people who keep voting for them are going to find out the hard way.

277 klys  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:04:07pm

re: #240 klys

The really obvious reply to the GOP shutting down the press conference is “Well, they’re good at that.”

It is SO OBVIOUS it is in the tweet and I missed it.

Maybe the Internet going down (THANKS OBAMA) was trying to tell me to go do homework.

278 EPR-radar  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:04:16pm

re: #273 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s like their family Bible is from that Star Trek episode with the evil mirror universe.

Does the Bible have a beard? THIS IS IMPORTANT.

One could probably make out a credible theological case that the prosperity gospel is essentially Satanic, using mainstream Christian precepts as the starting point.

279 Mattand  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:05:29pm

OT: Maybe be we won’t be watching/listening to the Eagles game after all. Oy.

280 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:06:53pm

re: #275 Dr Lizardo

If you want a pretty good idea of the wingnut bible reads like, I highly recommend ‘The Satanic Bible’ by Anton LaVey.

Seriously; it reads like a good many GOP talking points.

The Satanic Bible = Objectivism + inverted Christian concepts.

Being a selfish, greedy asshole is considered virtuous, and helping the poor and sick is considered a sin. So yes, it’s exactly like the current GOP.

281 sattv4u2  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:07:28pm

re: #279 Mattand

OT: Maybe be we won’t be watching/listening to the Eagles after all. Oy.

The Glenn Frey, Don Henley, Bernie Leadon, and Randy Meisner Eagles

Or the Philadelphia Eagles ??

282 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:09:22pm

re: #279 Mattand

“Dem Boids?” I know Philly Eagles.

283 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:09:43pm

re: #268 Lidane


You know, because they’re a “pro-life” party that is all about Christian compassion.

No, they don’t believe it’s immoral to spend money on the poor. They just hate non-corporate people.

284 Belafon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:10:26pm

re: #49 not_sure

I realize that you won’t pay attention, but the way a Democratic-Repubic works is we elect people who then work together who pass laws, and if people don’t like them, then they vote those people out of office. And yet, here we are, two congressional and one presidential election later, and the senate that passed the bill is still in Democratic hands, and the president that signed the bill is still president.

The only reason Republicans still have control of the House is gerrymandering - they got a million fewer votes than Democrats did, in the one place that is supposed to truly represent the voters. So, you know what, if the voters didn’t really like the law, they didn’t exactly vote against it.

285 Amory Blaine  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:10:56pm

The health insurance market is still too complicated. I realize single payer would cause thousands of pencil pushers to lose their jobs and in a recession, any job is probably good. But can’t we find ways for America to be more productive?

286 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:13:17pm
287 AlexRogan  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:13:32pm

re: #157 CuriousLurker

LOL, I’ve gotta admit #79 is my favorite. It comes in here spewing nastiness and we’re the ones who’re vitriolic. Complete lack of self-awareness. Amazing.

Anyway, I’m outta here. Later, lizards.

re: #160 Charles Johnson

Wish I had a dollar for every troll who’s ever followed exactly that same script at LGF.

You can see the progression from “just asking questions!!!” to insulting the room when it becomes obvious we ain’t buying what they’re selling.

288 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:18:47pm

re: #286 Lidane

You mean all hell isn’t breaking out already now?

289 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:19:52pm

re: #286 Lidane

[Embedded content]

I can’t disagree with that; if the House relents and funds the ACA, all hell will indeed break loose within the conservative movement.

That - and possibly immigration reform - could finally be the impetus for the Tea Party to go from a movement to a full-blown third political party in opposition to both the Democrats and the GOP.

The GOP’s worst nightmare come to life.

290 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:25:06pm

Hey, at least we had fun with this one and could dance to it.

The Silhouettes:

Youtube Video

291 makeitstop  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:25:39pm

re: #286 Lidane

[Embedded content]

Dibs on the popcorn concession.

292 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:27:57pm

EARTH TO BRYAN:
It was also the will of the people to put Obama in the White House for four more years.

293 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:30:02pm

re: #288 Bulworth

You mean all hell isn’t breaking out already now?

Sure, but Democrats are involved right now so it doesn’t really count.

If the clean CR gets passed to avert a shutdown, the teahadi faction in the GOP will primary everyone and go even more batshit, if they don’t move to bolt from the party entirely.

This really is a nightmare scenario for the Wall Street wing of the GOP. They spent billions astroturfing the Tea Party movement only to see the true believers bring us to the brink of default.

294 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:31:49pm

re: #293 Lidane

Sure, but Democrats are involved right now so it doesn’t really count.

If the clean CR gets passed to avert a shutdown, the teahadi faction in the GOP will primary everyone and go even more batshit, if they don’t move to bolt from the party entirely.

This really is a nightmare scenario for the Wall Street wing of the GOP. They spent billions astroturfing the Tea Party movement only to see the true believers bring us to the brink of default.

THIS.

295 urbanmeemaw  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:34:32pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

I think it’s good, also, but I think you should preface your comment with Concern Troll Speak:
“I dunno, I’m not a Democrat or Republican/I don’t like Glenn Greenwald BUT you have to admit…”

296 celticdragon  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:38:06pm

re: #275 Dr Lizardo

If you want a pretty good idea of the wingnut bible reads like, I highly recommend ‘The Satanic Bible’ by Anton LaVey.

Seriously; it reads like a good many GOP talking points.

IMO, the “supply side Jesus” Ayn Rand prosperity Gospel weirdness floating around America these days is one of the more serious and destructive heresies of the last couple hundred years.

297 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:40:10pm

re: #293 Lidane

Sure, but Democrats are involved right now so it doesn’t really count.

If the clean CR gets passed to avert a shutdown, the teahadi faction in the GOP will primary everyone and go even more batshit, if they don’t move to bolt from the party entirely.

This really is a nightmare scenario for the Wall Street wing of the GOP. They spent billions astroturfing the Tea Party movement only to see the true believers bring us to the brink of default.

Sort of like having the proverbial tiger by the tail…if you seized its tail after taping a chainsaw to its head.

298 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:47:14pm

re: #292 Vicious Babushka

Also will of the people to pass background checks at gunshows, etc.

299 Bulworth  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:49:36pm

re: #292 Vicious Babushka

EARTH TO BRYAN:
It was also the will of the people to put Obama in the White House for four more years.

Constitutional Constitionalists don’t want silly checks and balances thing. //

300 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 2:51:31pm

re: #296 celticdragon

IMO, the “supply side Jesus” Ayn Rand prosperity Gospel weirdness floating around America these days is one of the more serious and destructive heresies of the last couple hundred years.

Oh definitely. A Ugandan friend of mine once asked what Christianity in America was like, and I explained it’s pretty diverse, but there’s a not insignificant segment of Protestants who believe in such things.

“The American God looks like a CEO in a Brooks Brothers suit” I said.

301 Lidane  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 3:00:23pm
302 ObserverArt  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 3:07:20pm

Awwww…missed the excitement. Watching a great day of Ohio sports. Browns look like a football team and the Indians made it to the wildcard playoffs on a 96 loss to 92 win one-year-turnaround.

I’m guessing not_sure in no_longer_commenting?

Oh well, they fired off all their cliches, nothing left to offer…

303 Decatur Deb  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 3:14:56pm

re: #263 CuriousLurker

Or massage them with a silk handkerchief. (I think I may have mentioned before that there’s a Persian idiom that’s the equivalent of our “kissing ass”, but it literally translates into massaging someone’s testicles with a silk handkerchief.)

LOL, okayyyyy, I’m clearly losing it—time to close the spy and really leave.

Once again, LGF proves its indispensability.

304 Teukka  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 3:21:06pm

re: #175 The Ghost of a Flea

I, for one, am going to do my part to ensure a better quality of trolling on LGF.

So, suck it up socialists. Like your “Obamascare” is anything but a quality-assurance program for the white slaves you appropriate for your underground lizard cultural Zionist overlords.

I’d insult you more, but I have to go the Church like a REAL AMERICAN should. So I leave you to kiss your giant bearded Mohammed bust like the infidel Templars you are.

As pointed out elsewhere, not enough rage.

Also, you fail to mention at least 2 out of 4 of the following: the Illuminati, Masons, RFID’s, HAARP, One World Currency and/or the UN.

Or maybe it’s me that’s gotten jaded over the years, like when this wannabee prophet I follow says “The one the moslims call Mahdi will be Antichrist, but the one they call al Masih ad-Dajjal will be the Messiah” (SIC(!)), my reaction was a facepalm followed by a “Meh.” with prejudice.

[Note: For full appreciation of the above wingnuttery, some knowledge of Mossaic, Christian and Islamic eschatology combined is required.]

Why do I have the feeling it won’t be long now before we will see wingnuts beginning to have unmistakable full-blown psychotic episodes when the final bonds to reality snap for them?

305 Skip Intro  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 4:18:15pm

re: #257 celticdragon

I wonder how far this kind of smug, insufferable hatred of lesser people will get him in the Presidential primaries. Even the GOP diehards in Iowa may start to take offense at some point.

Sorry, but I don’t think so. The crazier, more hate filled the candidate, the better they do in Iowa.

By then, Cruz will be in full Joe McCarthy mode, waving around a fist full of papers he claims have the names of known communists in the government and demanding summary execution for every single one of them. The GOP crowds will go wild.

306 KiTA  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 4:26:24pm

re: #292 Vicious Babushka

EARTH TO BRYAN:
It was also the will of the people to put Obama in the White House for four more years.

[Embedded content]

But Rush says those people don’t count. They’re like, brown. And female. Only the right people count, and the white, er, I mean, right people put the House in charge of the country, so Obama should listen to them. < /snark >

I’m eagerly looking forward to the train wreck over the next two weeks. I think we’re finally seeing the snapping point. Either they’re going to take us over the cliff and end themselves for the next 20 years, or they’re going to reject the Tea Party blackmail and we’ll see them primary themselves into irreverence.

Either way, it seems like our long national nightmare may finally be ending. Presuming Obama doesn’t try to “negotiate” again.

307 steve_davis  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 4:48:41pm

re: #69 not_sure

You’re all going to die anyway. You don’t get out of this life alive. Thankfully, neither do your opinions.

somebody turn the troll onto the other side. He’s starting to stick to the pan.

308 palomino  Sun, Sep 29, 2013 6:23:54pm

re: #79 not_sure

I can see now this site is vitriolic haven for idiot “free stuff” liberals. Wow. The low IQ here is so thick, you could cut it with a knife.

Another mixed metaphor without meaning.

You’ve got nothing substantive to say. You appear to have little if any knowledge of the issues. Your posts are either just insults to liberals and commenters here, or nihilistic crap like “both parties hate everything.” Try making an argument based on facts in a slightly respectful way and you’ll get responded to in kind.

309 Flounder  Mon, Sep 30, 2013 6:18:15am

I will have to show my son this video, maybe it will give him some incentive to practice his drumming!


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