Oath Keepers Is Going ‘Operational’ by Forming Special ‘Civilization Preservation’ Teams

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Oath Keepers is instructing its 30,000 members nation-wide to form up special teams and sub-teams in each Oath Keepers chapter, at the town and county level, modeled loosely on the Special Forces “A Team” (Operational Detachment A ) model, and for a similar purpose: to be both a potential operational unit for community security and support during crisis, but also, as mission #1, to serve as training and leadership cadre, to assist in organizing neighborhood watches, organizing veterans halls to provide community civil defense, forming County Sheriff Posses, strengthening existing CERT, volunteer fire, search-and-rescue, reserve deputy systems, etc., and eventually to assist in forming and training town and county militias (established by official act of town and county elected representatives). We want our chapters to organize themselves as a working model that we can then take to other veterans organizations, such as the VFW, American Legion, Marine Corps League, etc. in each town and help them establish such teams within their already existing veterans halls. And likewise, to serve as a model and training cadre to help churches, neighborhood watches, and any other civic organization organize.

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Of course we all know what (and who) they mean by “Civilization Preservation” Teams. When you’re talking to your own kind, the dog whistles are hardly needed. Oh, and BTW, when they talk about “Precision Rifle Shooting” they mean snipers.

These guys are so waiting for Civil War V2 to come around. They have laid out their organizational structure, and it’s very close to what you would have in any good resistance / counter-goverment force…

So far,we plan to have the following in each Operational “Field” Team:
Two Communication Experts
Two medical experts (with a special focus on grid-down emergency medical and wilderness medicine)
Two Engineers To assist with fuel, shelter, emergency power, clean water, sewage, etc. build bridges, clear roads, construction, facilitate field distribution of supply and logistics, etc.
Two Strategic Food Reserve (SFR) specialists (who focus on the critical need for food reserves for the whole team, dependents, and especially for the community and who distribute food aid in the field).
Four to Six “Scouts.”
All Scouts will train extensively in tracking, land navigation, search and rescue, reconnaissance and observation, precision rifle shooting, wilderness survival and other “bush skills,” camouflage, small unit tactics, and patrolling (and then will serve as a teaching cadre to cross-train all other team members in the basics of all of those skills). But within each Scout sub-team will be, ideally:
a. Two tracking experts
b. two precision shooting experts
c. Two close combat and small unit tactics experts
Those are the operational specialties and sub-teams within each field team at this time. Each specialty will train in-depth and become true experts in those sub-category skills.

Of course they are just doing this to help out in the case of natural disasters like a hurricane, that’s why…

Like SF, all Oath Keepers will be expected to learn light infantry skills. They will all be encouraged to attend an Appleseed Rifle Program and shoot to “Rifleman” standards. Just as the Marines say that every Marine is a Rifleman (even the cooks) so will every Oath Keeper be a rifleman. After learning solid rifle marksmanship, they will learn individual movement and tactics, then buddy team, fire-team, and squad movement and tactics (shoot, move, communicate). All of you infantry veterans need to step up and teach these skills to everyone else. So, it is not just the Scouts who will learn those skills - everyone on a field team will learn them, and even the support team members should at least train in the basics so they can defend themselves.

Scary scary stuff. Of course since every Mosque is nothing more than a terrorist training center in the view of the RWNJs, I guess that this makes sense.

RBS

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65 comments
1 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 10:26:59am

Hmm. And I was just posting on Facebook how it is likely that the RWNJs would go the terrorist route if they start losing what little power they have left.

Who are these people kidding? This is organizing cells for ‘combat operations.’

2 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:24:16am

WOLVERINEZ!!!1ty!

3 EPR-radar  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:24:22am

Why on earth am I reminded of this: en.wikipedia.org ?

4 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:25:02am

re: #2 makeitstop

WOLVERINEZ!!!1ty!

Didn’t the Wolverines pretty much all end up dead by end of the film? Not exactly an inspiring message.

5 piratedan  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:28:28am

well all they need now is a charismatic senior military officer and we get to see Seven Days in May play out….

6 EPR-radar  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:28:44am

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

Hmm. And I was just posting on Facebook how it is likely that the RWNJs would go the terrorist route if they start losing what little power they have left.

Who are these people kidding? This is organizing cells for ‘combat operations.’

Actually, the RWNJs presently have lots of power, and that is why violence is so likely if they really do start losing power.

7 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:30:41am

The Klan is dead and reborn. The single thing keeping down a neo-klan threat is the diversity of southern state police and major city forces. This is a way to circumvent that. The growth of self-selected ‘reserve’ police agencies, auxiliaries, and ‘posses’ is the next step,. Then there’s always the purely private forces like Blackwater/Xe/Academi, Wackenhutt, and others.

This is why some southern liberals could give a shit less about gun control.

8 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:31:48am

re: #5 piratedan

well all they need now is a charismatic senior military officer and we get to see Seven Days in May play out….

LTC (ret) Allan West

9 missliberties  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:31:56am

I suggest if you have stocks you start taking them out of the stock market tomorrow, while you can still make a profit.

10 piratedan  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:33:05am

re: #8 Decatur Deb

gotta have a two star general imho, former JCOS would do too

11 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:33:53am

The network of terrorist cell they’re laying out here would do Mao or Che proud.

It’s these kind of scum that are another good reason for liberals to be armed.

12 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:34:49am

re: #10 piratedan

gotta have a two star general imho, former JCOS would do too

The care and feeding of O8s is too onerous for a hard-hitting brotherhood of Patriots.

13 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:36:09am

re: #9 missliberties

I suggest if you have stocks you start taking them out of the stock market tomorrow, while you can still make a profit.

I’m actually thinking about buying in while prices are low. Crisis/opportunity and all that.

14 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:36:40am

When monster trucks and assault rifles don’t satisfy that penis envy.

15 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:36:40am

Civilization preservation? Cool! Can I be in charge of wine and cheese? Opera on PBS? Ensuring politeness while waiting for things?

Oh. That’s not what they meant, is it?

16 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:38:50am

re: #15 calochortus

Civilization preservation? Cool! Can I be in charge of wine and cheese? Opera on PBS? Ensuring politeness while waiting for things?

Oh. That’s not what they meant, is it?

I’m still irked that Civ V lists Alexander as a Greek. I thought he was Macedonian.

17 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:40:13am

re: #16 Killgore Trout

I’m still irked that Civ V lists Alexander as a Greek. I thought he was Macedonian.

Yes, but the Macedonia that is part of Greece.

(edit: There are 2 Macedonias)

18 Internet Tough Guy  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:40:27am

“Forming Special ‘Civilization Preservation’ Teams”

Personally, I prefer to save my game once in a while, bur whatever gets it done….

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:41:44am

re: #4 Dr Lizardo

Didn’t the Wolverines pretty much all end up dead by end of the film? Not exactly an inspiring message.

But they got to have that really cool monument/plaque up in the mountains…

/

20 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:42:45am

re: #17 calochortus

Yes, but the Macedonia that is part of Greece.

The Macedonian royal tombs are in Vergina, modern Greece. Philip II is laid out in a cheesy glass case in the museum in Thessalonika.

21 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:43:02am

The strength of a civilization is not measured by its ability to fight wars, but rather by its ability to prevent them.

22 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:43:16am

re: #17 calochortus

Yes, but the Macedonia that is part of Greece.

I think the historical confusion comes from the fact that neither the Macedonians nor the Athenians considered themselves “Greek”. The term “Greece” was used by the Romans much later in history.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:43:56am

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

24 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:44:20am

THIS. IS. SPARTA!!!!!!!!

25 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:44:27am

re: #21 SnowdenBaggerVance

The strength of a civilization is not measured by its ability to fight wars, but rather by its ability to prevent them.

Star Trek?

26 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:44:59am

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Star Trek?

en.wikiquote.org

27 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:45:20am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

Not when their “opinions” are actually verbatim copy paste from MAKE THIS GO VIRAL!!11!! tweets and emails…

28 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:45:43am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

Probably an effort to shield themselves from getting fired from their job if they say something outrageously outrageous.

29 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:45:45am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

In my opinion it is obvious.

30 AlexRogan  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:45:46am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

CYA for themselves if they post stuff that could possibly get them in trouble with their employers and such.

31 EPR-radar  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:45:48am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

I’m clueless about Twitter, but I can certainly see disseminators of RW talking points adding one more lie to their tally by pretending to be independent thinkers.

32 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:46:14am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

No, they may just be repeating someone else’s talking points without thinking them through. Unfortunately such a disclaimer is probably not necessarily accurate.

33 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:46:28am

re: #29 Iwouldprefernotto

In my opinion it is obvious.

Is that your own opinion?

34 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:46:51am

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

The shorter version of people who post ‘I DECLARE ALL MY POSTS IN FACEBOOK ARE COPYRIGHT BY ME AND NOT TO BE SHARED OR COPIED WITHOUT MY PERMISSION IN A COURT OF JESTERS.’

35 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:50:13am

re: #16 Killgore Trout

I’m still irked that Civ V lists Alexander as a Greek. I thought he was Macedonian.

Alexander’s empire spread pan-Hellenistic ideas that went beyond the city-state for the first real time in history, so if there’s any real beginning to a remotely coherent Greek civilization, it was under Alexander.

You’re probably confused because you’re thinking of the modern enmity between Greeks and Macedonians, but in the historical perspective, Macedon, especially Alexander’s Macedon, is one of the key seminal forces in Greek history, and Alexander himself was very consciously attempting to create a pan-Hellenic sentiment, which he then complicated by getting all Persian.

36 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:53:38am
37 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:53:41am

re: #33 Decatur Deb

Is that your own opinion?

I get all my opinions from Oprah

38 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 11:57:12am

re: #19 Backwoods_Sleuth

But they got to have that really cool monument/plaque up in the mountains…

/

Oh, well………there you go.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:03:54pm
40 122 Year Old Obama  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:06:32pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

O/T but just in case anyone wanted to have this tidbit handy:

Heritage Foundation’s position in 1989 on national health insurance.

Link to full PDF paper can be accessed here.

Well duh, of course they supported it back then, there wasn’t no ni-CLANG as president then!

41 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:06:50pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

O/T but just in case anyone wanted to have this tidbit handy:

Heritage Foundation’s position in 1989 on national health insurance.

Link to full PDF paper can be accessed here.

That is so 20th century. I’m afraid the conservatives have moved on since then.

42 Stoatly  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:12:04pm

re: #21 SnowdenBaggerVance

The strength of a civilization is not measured by its ability to fight wars, but rather by its ability to prevent them.

Though the ability to prevent war tends to be dependent (ok, not solely) on the ability to fight wars if necessary.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum”
“If you desire peace, prepare for war”
(Though I would add “But don’t actually start one - unless you really, really, really have to” as the Iraq debacle among too many others proves)

43 PhillyPretzel  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:14:33pm

re: #42 Stoatly

From Sun Tzu’s Art of War: In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace. The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life or death, a road to either safety or to ruin. Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected.

44 Stoatly  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:17:33pm

re: #40 122 Year Old Obama

Well duh, of course they supported it back then, there wasn’t no ni-CLANG as president then!

Also they hadn’t seen just how much money the beneficiaries of the status quo in healthcare could lay before them to change their minds

45 Teukka  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:17:48pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

Why on earth am I reminded of this: en.wikipedia.org ?

Because that’s what it basically is. New name, some superficial ideological changes, but the core ideology is eerily similar.

Want a better chill down your spine? Read up on what the NSDAP did in the Reichstag before Adolf ended up with the Chancellorship. I can’t shake the feeling I’m seeing that same game being played again.

46 Snarknado!  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:18:10pm

These “Civilzation Preservation Teams” are a recipe for a Weimar-style collapse and takeover, or the nucleus of a Praetorian Guard to select the New Caesar*. It is to shudder.

*…but dream on, guys. We do still have a REAL army.

47 Kragar  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:21:52pm

Doesn’t every neighborhood require a team of RWNJ who think their commandos to keep it safe?
///

48 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:22:02pm

re: #46 Snarknado!

Will they be ready when truckers and patriots totally shut down the country by going on strike (or whatever the heck they’re going to do) next weekend?

49 calochortus  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:22:33pm

re: #47 Kragar

Doesn’t every neighborhood require a team of RWNJ who think their commandos to keep it safe?
///

Umm, no?

50 Kragar  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:23:34pm

Boehner: U.S. Is On A Path To Default

Take a guess at who he blames for that.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:26:28pm

OT but I’m trying to post a page and I can’t get the window to scroll down far enough to get to the post button. Help?

52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:27:30pm

re: #47 Kragar

Doesn’t every neighborhood require a team of RWNJ who think their commandos to keep it safe?
///

And they fail to realize that there are a LOT of sane gunowners (and many of us are NOT RWNJ) who are better shots…

53 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:28:16pm

re: #51 William Barnett-Lewis

OT but I’m trying to post a page and I can’t get the window to scroll down far enough to get to the post button. Help?

Save as a draft, then clear your cache, then restart your computer?

54 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:29:21pm

re: #53 Backwoods_Sleuth

Save as a draft, then clear your cache, then restart your computer?

Or hit ctrl - to shrink it small enough to see the button.

55 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:30:59pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

Or hit ctrl - to shrink it small enough to see the button.

oh, yes, that too.
(my embarrassed face for overlooking the obvious…)

56 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:31:00pm

re: #54 Stanley Sea

Or hit ctrl - to shrink it small enough to see the button.

D’oh!

Thanks, now you to can see WWII in 7 minutes :)

57 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:31:36pm

re: #55 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh, yes, that too.
(my embarrassed face for overlooking the obvious…)

:)

58 Lidane  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 12:35:56pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Why do people put “opinions are my own” in their Twitter profiles? I mean, isn’t that obvious?

Sure it’s obvious but sometimes you need to CYA at work. I know that at my most recent job, my employer followed my personal Twitter feed. And at least three different social media folks from a large corporate client we had were following me too. I had to make it clear that I was tweeting for myself and not the company.

It’s obnoxious but sometimes you have to put that stupid line in there.

59 scottslemmons  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 1:06:16pm

The Oathkeepers bug the hell out of me, but part of me, maybe the long-atrophied optimistic part, hopes this won’t be so serious.

Yeah, they’d love to have them a big ol’ shootin’ war where they can finally indulge their fantasies of killing blacks and Hispanics and hippies and everyone who laughs at their mighty sword.

But these guys are a minority even within the teabaggers. And they’re stupid as hell. They think all their fantasies are going to come true, and they don’t make any contingency plans. They don’t consider that everyone else has guns these days, and they’re going to make themselves targets if they try to set themselves up as the Teabagger Super Army. They don’t consider that, even as insanely authoritarian as your local cop has become over the last few decades, the police aren’t going to be interested in sharing power with a bunch of weekend warrior fuckups.

Am I wrong in thinking these schmucks are going to end up looking like Daffy Duck shooting his beak off with a shotgun?

60 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 1:09:23pm

re: #59 scottslemmons

…snip

Am I wrong in thinking these schmucks are going to end up looking like Daffy Duck shooting his beak off with a shotgun?

No, you’re not wrong if the unemployment rate drifts back to 4%.
You’re wrong if someone screws up the world economy and we hit 25%.

61 scottslemmons  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 1:32:32pm

re: #60 Decatur Deb

But if that happens, we’re pretty likely to see Republicans bragging on TV about how they did it. They haven’t been able to shut themselves up otherwise — for every Repub blaming Obama, there’s been another on TV crowing about how happy they are that the government’s shut down. I don’t see how the teabaggers are going to get any more popular when they’re claiming credit for nuking the world economy…

62 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 2:16:51pm

re: #43 PhillyPretzel

From Sun Tzu’s Art of War: In peace prepare for war, in war prepare for peace. The art of war is of vital importance to the state. It is a matter of life or death, a road to either safety or to ruin. Hence under no circumstances can it be neglected.

My favorite book on war. Much better than von Clausewitz in my opinion.

63 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 2:24:09pm

re: #52 Backwoods_Sleuth

And they fail to realize that there are a LOT of sane gunowners (and many of us are NOT RWNJ) who are better shots…

And I suspect more willing to die for what they believe in. The RNWJs simply want to kill.

Ask the Persians at Marathon how well that worked.

64 Major Tom  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 3:23:09pm

Marching through the streets, talking about violent revolution, cursing progressives and liberals, all the while calling their foes ‘brown-shirts.’ Without even a hint of irony or self awareness.

65 BusyMonster  Sun, Oct 6, 2013 10:15:59pm

I’m a big fan of the TV show Burn Notice. One of the episodes features a gun-nut militia, who are portrayed in the show as a bunch of fat, arrogant loudmouthed weekenders running around in the woods.

I figure the Oath-Keepers, being the kind of lazy, self-centered assholes they sound like, are probably a bunch of disorganized jackasses in real life and will more likely hurt each other than shoot anyone else.

They’re also in for a hell of a shock if they start trying to push just anyone around.


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