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1 klys  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:03:27pm

Clearly critical thinking is not a value they support.

2 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:04:20pm

Louie Gohmert is just butthurt because John McCain is a braver, smarter, and better man than he’ll ever be. His words are the whine of a loser.

3 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:04:38pm

BBL

4 piratedan  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:05:51pm

the GOP outreach continues?

5 jaunte  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:06:22pm

From Norman Borlaug to Louie Gohmert. Texas A&M sure has some diversity.

6 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:06:39pm

Loathesome bastards, the lot of them.

7 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:06:41pm

The DNC doesn’t even need to campaign ever again. Just air video from the VVS in half hour increments during prime time tv evenings.

8 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:07:02pm

No true anarchist…

Dudebros loves them some anarchy.

9 erik_t  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:07:56pm

Well, the GOP has certainly answered Joseph Welch’s question, and done so in resounding form.

At long last, no, they have no sense of decency.

10 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:08:26pm

In the parking lot, Gohmert is getting into his car, when he turns around and sees McCain.

McCain: “This is my territory.”

11 erik_t  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:09:11pm

re: #5 jaunte

From Norman Borlaug to Louie Gohmert. Texas A&M sure has some diversity.

Dopefish is going to fight you for that. Borlaug is a Iowa/Minnesota product, through and through. I don’t think he set foot in College Station until the twilight years of his career.

12 simoom  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:09:23pm

Oh, wonderful… a Joe the Plumber editorial just popped up on memeorandum ///.

13 piratedan  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:09:27pm

I guess that according to the statement that Gohmert issued regarding the former GOP Presidential candidate is that we dodged a bullet by electing Obama then? who knew?

14 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:10:07pm

re: #12 simoom

Wonder if JTP was at the VVS13….

15 Zamb  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:10:16pm

Can I assume this is in response to his position on Syria? I can only imagine if the positions were reversed we’d be hearing Gohmert accuse McCain and the President of gassing children. Never miss an opportunity to paint those you disagree with as the most evil and heinous individuals to have ever existed.

16 elizajane  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:10:36pm

re: #12 simoom

Oh, wonderful… a Joe the Plumber editorial just popped up on memeorandum ///.

Yup. He wants you to know that just because you want a white president doesn’t mean that you are racist.

joeforamerica.com

(You may not want to follow this link if you have a mouth full of food, or even a full stomach)

17 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:11:22pm

re: #16 elizajane

No RWNJ racism here….please move along.

/

18 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:12:03pm

The kind of convoluted and defective reasoning we see here- AQ is alleged to operate with the rebels therefore we can conflate all rebels with AQ- is fairly typical of religious fundamentalists. Their brand of literalism essentially legitimizes strawmen, weasel words, and context errors. They are a diseased subculture. May they soon be cast into the dustbin of history, along with the divine right of kings and the reading of entrails.

19 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:12:40pm

re: #16 elizajane

Yup. He wants you to know that just because you want a white president doesn’t mean that you are racist.

joeforamerica.com

(You may not want to follow this link if you have a mouth full of food, or even a full stomach)

Oh no he di’nt.

20 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:13:03pm

GOHMERT! John McCain “Supported

will their be a ceremony where all republicans accuse each other of heresy and excommunicate each other?

21 Gus  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:13:14pm
22 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:13:44pm
23 Zamb  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:14:00pm

re: #16 elizajane

Well white people are much more intelligent and hardworking than the coloreds. That’s just science.

24 Gus  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:14:37pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

April 28, 2008.

Libtards! Oops. //

25 Zamb  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:15:17pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

Such emotional maturity. Also I’m not certain what I’m looking at or why it’s supposed to anger me.

26 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:16:16pm

re: #24 Gus

Libtard! Oops. //

DAMN THAT OBAMA AND HIS TIME MACHINE!

27 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:16:27pm

re: #24 Gus

Libtard! Oops. //

DAMN! I THOUGHT GOOGLING IMAGES WITH ‘TRUCKS; WASHINGTON; RAIN’ WOULD DO IT!!!!

28 jaunte  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:18:33pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

That’s from 2008.

29 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:18:52pm


LOL

30 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:20:23pm

re: #29 Kragar

[Embedded content]


LOL

No evidence required, just ‘I read it on RedState!’

31 Gus  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:20:46pm

re: #29 Kragar

[Embedded content]

LOL

Results for from:noprisoners1 infowars

32 simoom  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 3:20:51pm

re: #16 elizajane

You know, I’m still to this day dumbfounded by how much of the final 2008 Presidential debate involved discussing that guy. It definitely was one of the sillier parts of an election season generally filled with silliness.

33 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 4:57:13pm

*taptaptap* Is this thing on?

34 piratedan  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 4:58:40pm

buehler? buehler?

35 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:00:24pm

Ok, who defunded LGF??

36 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:01:32pm

re: #19 Charles Johnson

Oh no he di’nt.

Is that shit real?

37 elizajane  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:02:42pm

Every time I try to upding a comment I get sent back to the home page. Honestly, it’s harder than voting in Arizona.

38 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:03:57pm

Same thing happens when you post a comment, also the “quote” and “reply” buttons seem non-functional at the moment.

39 klys  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:06:51pm

re: #37 elizajane

Every time I try to upding a comment I get sent back to the home page. Honestly, it’s harder than voting in Arizona.

+1

40 AlexRogan  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:08:51pm

re: #16 elizajane

Yup. He wants you to know that just because you want a white president doesn’t mean that you are racist.

joeforamerica.com

(You may not want to follow this link if you have a mouth full of food, or even a full stomach)

Good lord, that’s fucked up.

41 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:10:54pm

Charles, when I went to upding a comment I got an MDB2 error: connect failed.

Does that help at all?

42 piratedan  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:13:02pm

re: #37 elizajane

voting in Arizona has never been a problem for me, but then again, I’m a white male middle class fat bastard, so I am suitably camouflaged…..

43 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:15:22pm

Charles. Quotes and reply buttons don’t work. Trying to upding causes the front page to load.

44 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:15:57pm

Edit button doesn’t work, loads front page.

45 Single-handed sailor  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:33:49pm

Working for me now.

46 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:37:59pm

re: #21 Gus

[Embedded content]

A caricature with more than a grain of truth to it. Gohmert’s Tea Party socio-economic positions and philosophy could easily be modeled on the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition and their religion in general. The fundy Hell finds a close analog in the Ferengi Vault of Eternal Destitution, for example.

47 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:38:31pm

re: #45 Single-handed sailor

Working for me now.

Yep, working now it seems.

48 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:41:24pm

Back.

Heeeey

49 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:42:06pm

French Diners Decry ‘Denial Of Serviettes’ Attack

have to cry into their beer instead of wiping their chops

50 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:43:37pm

re: #48 Stanley Sea

Back.

Heeeey

A Happy Friday Evening to you.

51 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:44:21pm

Well, back. Been toying with a wingnut for part of the evening on Twitter (my feed getting kinda funky with the stank). It’s No True Conservative written all over him. Doesn’t realize or care that the GOP is devolving to the base, and will not be able to win over independents with the cast of characters they’re trotting out.

Cruz is showing just how nutty the GOP is.

52 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:45:10pm

re: #35 Eclectic Cyborg

Ok, who defunded LGF??

As an NSA front for vilifying patriots and resisters, LGF was mistakenly selected for shutdown during the budget crisis. After an appeal to President Obama and the Council of Thirteen, the essential nature of this service has been duly recognized and the error has been corrected. The inattentive bureaucrats who made the original selection have been “furloughed” to FEMA Camp.

53 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:47:44pm

re: #22 Vicious Babushka
Oh my goodness. Was that two, oh sorry THREE trucks???
Well this Libtard is humbled. Guess we just tell Obama to step down now.
We tried, Lord did we try.

/

54 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:47:52pm

Next time the server goes down, I say we sacrifice a troll to appease the hamster gods. All in favor?

//

55 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:48:21pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Next time the server goes down, I say we sacrifice a troll to appease the hamster gods. All in favor?

//

Aye!

56 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:48:52pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

Don’t take this wrong but, you’re such a nerd!

57 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:49:28pm

re: #50 GOPHostage#25698724

A Happy Friday Evening to you.

Hey RWC

Twitter links not posting….

58 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:49:50pm

re: #46 Shiplord Kirel

A caricature with more than a grain of truth to it. Gohmert’s Tea Party socio-economic positions and philosophy could easily be modeled on the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition and their religion in general. The fundy Hell finds a close analog in the Ferengi Vault of Eternal Destitution, for example.

Rule of Acquisition #1: Once you have their money, you never give it back.

59 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:52:13pm
60 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:53:12pm

re: #54 Targetpractice

Next time the server goes down, I say we sacrifice a troll to appease the hamster gods. All in favor?

//

Aye

61 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:53:20pm

Good night, Lizards.

62 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:57:00pm

‘Good conversation’: Obama and Boehner vow to keep working on shutdown deal

nothing happening, government still shutdown, baggers happy, no end in sight

63 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:57:45pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

Internets letting us down.. LOL. Plotting where to go on what looks to be a perfect clear weekend with the cameras. Weekend weather is looking clear and well worth enjoying.

64 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 5:59:09pm

re: #62 dog philosopher

‘Good conversation’: Obama and Boehner vow to keep working on shutdown deal

nothing happening, government still shutdown, baggers happy, no end in sight

I think the baggers are going to be pissed when they work out a deal.

65 Iwouldprefernotto  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:01:48pm

Just got this ad on Facebook


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thanks Zuckerberg

66 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:05:09pm

Wowzer, not only did LGF break down, so did Charter.

We’re having trouble with our router working now, trying to get everything, including another ‘puter and 2 xboxes, working.

67 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:08:26pm

re: #63 GOPHostage#25698724

Internets letting us down.. LOL. Plotting where to go on what looks to be a perfect clear weekend with the cameras. Weekend weather is looking clear and well worth enjoying.

Have fun. Look out for mountain lions! (Did you see the posts from earlier?)

68 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:09:37pm

Twitter links still won’t post

69 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:12:16pm

Yeah, twitter links won’t post…

Actually, that happened just before LGF went down for me earlier today.

70 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:13:10pm

re: #63 GOPHostage#25698724

Internets letting us down.. LOL. Plotting where to go on what looks to be a perfect clear weekend with the cameras. Weekend weather is looking clear and well worth enjoying.

I see your governor surprised a lot of people today by vetoing SB374.

71 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:13:26pm

Wait, what?

A top aide to Republican New Jersey Senate hopeful Steve Lonegan went into decidedly not-safe-for-work territory when TPM asked why he thinks his candidate has been gaining on Democratic opponent Cory Booker in recent polls.

In a profanity-filled assessment of the race delivered via phone Thursday, Rick Shaftan, a senior staffer and key strategist on Lonegan’s campaign, suggested voters would be turned off by Booker’s “odd” behavior including Twitter messages the Democrat sent to a stripper, that Shaftan described as “strange” and “like what a gay guy would say.”

“It was just weird. I mean, to me, you know, hey, if he said, ‘Hey, you got really hot breasts man, I’d love to suck on them.’ Then like, yeah, cool. But like, he didn’t say that,” Shaftan explained. “It was like kind of like, I don’t know, it was like what a gay guy would say to a stripper. It’s the way he was talking to her. It’s just like like there was no sexual interest at all. I don’t know. To me, if I was single and you know like some stripper was tweeting me, I might take advantage of the perks of the office, you know?”

Newsflash asshole, strippers are human beings too. They work hard and provide a service that’s in demand. Treating them with respect, like the people they are isn’t queer, not that there’s anything wrong with being queer. Republicans just can’t help being misogynistic assholes.

Beyond the transparent gay baiting, this is an obvious lie. If Booker had communicated inappropriately with the woman, they’d be hyping that as a huge scandal.

72 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:15:46pm

re: #70 William Barnett-Lewis

I see your governor surprised a lot of people today by vetoing SB374.

It was a pretty obvious veto. The bill was ridiculously overbroad, would have banned Ruger 10/22’s. Brown’s a smart guy, knows that handguns are the problem.

73 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:16:15pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Wait, what?

Newsflash asshole, strippers are human beings too. They work hard and provide a service that’s in demand. Treating them with respect, like the people they are isn’t queer, not that there’s anything wrong with being queer. Republicans just can’t help being misogynistic assholes.

Beyond the transparent gay baiting, this is an obvious lie. If Booker had communicated inappropriately with the woman, they’d be hyping that as a huge scandal.

He’s going to sink his candidates chances.

74 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:17:42pm

re: #73 b_sharp

He’s going to sink his candidates chances.

First, they try to make a big deal out of it—just an innocent tweet, really.

Then, this bullshit.

Go on, destroy yourselves, Rs.

75 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:19:22pm

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

However, in the interview with TPM, Shaftan said it was impossible Booker did not take notice of the topless pictures Lee regularly shared on her Twitter page.

“This is strange. It’s just weird. … It’s like, ‘I don’t know who she is. I don’t know anything about her.’ Get the fuck out of here dude. You can’t follow her Twitter page and not know she’s got those great breasts. How do you fucking not know?” Shaftan said. “It’s just too odd and people they just wonder, like, who does this guy really want to work for? Who’s he representing?”

Okay, so which is it, are you pissed off that Booker didn’t act like a letch, or are you pissed he didn’t act like a prude? It can’t be both.

76 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:20:47pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Okay, so which is it, are you pissed off that Booker didn’t act like a letch, or are you pissed he didn’t act like a prude? It can’t be both.

What pissed me off most about the exchange was the whole “perk of the office” line. WTF was that shit?

77 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:20:56pm

re: #64 Iwouldprefernotto

I think the baggers are going to be pissed when they work out a deal.

i’l believe it when i see it and even then i still won’t believe it

78 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:23:37pm

Lonegan is just kicking back in his office, dodging calls, playing this over and over again, staring at the ceiling:

Youtube Video

79 Danack  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:24:02pm

re: #40 AlexRogan

Good lord, that’s fucked up.

It’s even better from the full article:

“I long for the days of a white president, because under white presidents, at least black people had pride. Liberals have stolen pride from blacks, and they have no intention of giving it back. At least if we had a white president, black people might have a shot of regaining a modicum of respect.”

Remember, totally not racist. And definitely not saying that these uppity ni-bongs need to remember their place, and learn how to be civilized from their white masters.

80 Targetpractice  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:26:06pm

re: #64 Iwouldprefernotto

I think the baggers are going to be pissed when they work out a deal.

I’m getting the impression that the Senate’s gonna be the one that works out a deal. And Boehner’s gonna have to swallow his pride and junk the Hastert Rule yet again in order to avoid tripping the default deadline. The House GOP just does not seem to get that they’re not in a position to dictate terms.

81 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:26:54pm

re: #73 b_sharp

He’s going to sink his candidates chances.

His candidate’s chances were already pretty much sunk. But this should drive women away from Steve Lonegan like a reversed polarity magnet.

82 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:27:00pm

re: #40 AlexRogan

Good lord, that’s fucked up.

he is startlingly overqualified for the job of Prize Moron

sean hannitttty must be teh jealous

83 jaunte  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:30:20pm
84 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:30:39pm

re: #67 Stanley Sea

Have fun. Look out for mountain lions! (Did you see the posts from earlier?)

Heh did see those. Made me wonder if bear spray works on cougars. After all it works in Sherman Oaks. ///

85 Amory Blaine  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:31:06pm

OMG!!! There are literally hundreds of trucks on the freeway in Milwaukee> Must be spreading across the USA!!!! GO TRUCKERZZ!!!!11212TY@@@!!

86 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:32:23pm

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Okay, so which is it, are you pissed off that Booker didn’t act like a letch, or are you pissed he didn’t act like a prude? It can’t be both.

You and I know the answer: “The black candidate can do no right.” If Booker had showed sexual interest in the lady he’d be attacked for being ‘lust crazed’, as in “The Lust Crazed Negro is going after white women. We white men must stop him with out guns!”

I still find it hard to believe people still think this way. I’ve accepted that they do and I try to counter it when possible, but just thinking about it hurts.

87 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:36:57pm

re: #76 Kragar

What pissed me off most about the exchange was the whole “perk of the office” line. WTF was that shit?

Yeah, he clearly equates strippers with whores and public service with official corruption, which he apparently condones. One of my best friends, a woman I’ve known for 25 years worked for more than a decade as a dancer at the Lusty Lady in Seattle. She was there when it finally closed, and has nothing but fond memories of her time there. It was a good, well paying job and the downtown Seattle community loved that place and was sad to see it go.

It’s a huge pet peeve of mine to see people treat dancers, strippers and sex workers the way this guy did. In no small part because of the culture of violence it helps incubate, which these women suffer from disproportionately. Society created the demand, and it’s legal, so the absolute bare minimum decent thing to do is to treat the people who fill that demand like human beings deserving of basic respect.

88 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:37:57pm

We’re running in a kind of “safe mode” right now, and some stuff is not working — like embedded tweets.

89 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:41:19pm

re: #88 Charles Johnson

We’re running in a kind of “safe mode” right now, and some stuff is not working — like embedded tweets.

Thanks for the warning and for keeping the site running.

90 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:41:24pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

You and I know the answer: “The black candidate can do no right.” If Booker had showed sexual interest in the lady he’d be attacked for being ‘lust crazed’, as in “The Lust Crazed Negro is going after white women. We white men must stop him with out guns!”

I still find it hard to believe people still think this way. I’ve accepted that they do and I try to counter it when possible, but just thinking about it hurts.

Are you still treating gay marriage as a purely pragmatic lost cause for Republicans or have you evolved personally to view gays as human beings deserving of equal protection under the law?

I ask because the gay baiting attacks being employed against Booker are just as repugnant, bigoted and unacceptable as the racism he’s facing. Also, Chris Christie is currently fighting gay marriage in the NJ courts because he needs to pander to the anti-gay bigots that make up the GOP base.

91 SnowdenBaggerVance  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:46:26pm
92 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:48:53pm

Tony Perkins asked at the VVS “Have we lost this generation of voters?” vis a vis Same Sex marriage.

Given their tenuous relationship with reality, I’m expecting the VVS response to be “FUCK ‘EM! We’ll just live forever and won’t even need them!”

93 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:52:36pm

Fuck.

I just used “vis a vis”

I’ve got to go kick my own ass now.

94 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:53:15pm

Youtube Video

Edward Snowden smiles as he receives an award.

95 b_sharp  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:53:18pm

re: #93 Kragar

Fuck.

I just used “vis a vis”

I’ve got to go kick my own ass now.

Please.

96 SnowdenBaggerVance  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:53:21pm

re: #90 goddamnedfrank

Are you still treating gay marriage as a purely pragmatic lost cause for Republicans or have you evolved personally to view gays as unflawed human beings deserving of equal protection under the law?

A little change in an otherwise excellent question.

97 SnowdenBaggerVance  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:58:31pm
NASA celebrated its 55th anniversary by sending home 97% of its workforce. Space: the final fuck you.
98 Lidane  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:58:36pm

re: #73 b_sharp

He’s going to sink his candidates chances.

Did Lonegan ever really have a chance? IIRC Lawhawk has mentioned that he’s got a long history in NJ of being a massive tool that even the GOP doesn’t like.

99 Kragar  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:59:03pm

Steve Lonegan Plans To Fire Staffer Who Gave X-Rated Interview

“Mr. Shaftan’s comments are not reflective of my views or that of my campaign,” Lonegan said in a statement through his campaign spokesman. “His comments are distasteful and offensive, and his contract as a vendor for my campaign will be terminated immediately.”

So Shaftan woke up this morning as a senior staffer and got fired as a “vendor”.

ROFLMAO

100 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 6:59:50pm

Here’s a question Dark,

How would you feel about someone who took your exact same “pragmatic” stance but applied it to racial equality? I’m talking about someone who clearly feels that blacks are inferior and undeserving of full equality under the law but admits that this position is a non-starter politically. Would you respect such a person?

101 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 7:02:14pm

None of these questions have expiration dates. Not the one about Mark Kirks lying about Obama “shaking in his boots,” none of them. They’re going to keep being asked over and over again until you deal with them Dark. Refusing to answer won’t make them go away.

102 klys  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 7:49:56pm

It’s quiet here tonight.

…almost too quiet.

103 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 8:03:37pm

Boo!

104 alpuz  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 8:03:46pm

Anybody else like The Ninth Configuration?

105 klys  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 8:05:37pm

I dislike watching class lectures at 8pm on a Friday night.

106 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 8:44:12pm

Tap, tap, tap…
Anyone home?

107 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 8:50:59pm

re: #106 Dancing along the light of day

Tap, tap, tap…
Anyone home?

Just us hamsters. We got into some primo hooch. Want a drink? *hic*

108 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Oct 11, 2013 9:16:20pm

re: #107 Shiplord Kirel

Giggles. Moonshine? Pretty please?

109 Single-handed sailor  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:07:48am

testes

110 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:30:01am

Okay, the account holders who were stupid enough to okay this probably had it coming, but this seems highly unethical:

If you were watching the Twitter stream for the hashtag belonging to ReedPop’s New York Comic Con yesterday — #NYCC — then you might have assumed that the show was so successful even cynical journalists and veterans had been bowled over by it. “So much pop culture to digest! Can’t. handle. the. awesome,” raved some tweets. “So much to see, so much to do!” said others. The only problem was the tweets weren’t actually written by the owners of the accounts on which they appeared.

The ghostwritten tweets, which included the hashtag #NYCC and a link to the event’s Facebook page, were posted on the Twitter feeds of many attendees after the event began. So, who was behind these phantom social media raves? None other than NYCC organizer ReedPop, of course. Attendees to this year’s convention were allowed to pre-register their RFID-enabled badges online, and during that process, to connect their social media profiles to their badges — something, the NYCC registration site explained, that would make the “NYCC experience… 100x cooler! For realz.”

Admittedly, most attendees didn’t expect “100x cooler” to translate into “we’ll use your social media presence to post spam in your feed as soon as the RFID badge senses that you’ve entered the Javits Center to attend the show,” but that seems to be what happened.

111 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:37:50am

And….

We’re back?

112 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:38:18am

Dang union hamsters.

113 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:41:19am
114 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:46:27am
GOHMERT! John McCain “Supported Al Qaeda”

Image: nathan-fillion-well-nevermind.gif

115 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:49:43am
116 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:50:38am

Bryan is not a happy camper this evening.

117 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:53:48am

As you can see, we’re back online. This time it looks like we were the target of a DDOS attack - the NOC nulled our IP address because of a huge traffic surge. And since this is a backbone provider, if they say it was huge it must have been truly gigantic.

118 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:55:57am

re: #117 Charles Johnson

As you can see, we’re back online. This time it looks we were the target of a DDOS attack - the NOC mulled our IP address because of a huge traffic surge. And since this is a backbone provider, if they say it was huge it must have been truly gigantic.

Just this site or the provider?

119 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:57:21am

re: #118 Kragar

Just this site or the provider?

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

120 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:58:14am

The permanent damage they’ve already done, even if it’s solved over the weekend:

littlegreenfootballs.com

121 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:01:09am

Strippers a perk of the office? Federalist page #86.

122 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:01:45am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

Well, aint that a kick in the nuts.

123 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:02:24am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

Sounds like you have some admirers.

///

124 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:02:42am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

So who is the most likely perpetrator: The stalkers, butthurt conservatives or Chinese hackers?

Half /

125 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:03:26am

They’re putting an Amazon Dist center here in WI. SALES TAX!!!!

Youtube Video

126 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:05:53am

re: #124 Eclectic Cyborg

So who is the most likely perpetrator: The stalkers, butthurt conservatives or Chinese hackers?

Half /

No way to tell right now. It probably wasn’t our stalker pals though; they’re too lame to pull something like this off.

127 piratedan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:07:14am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

you must be pissing off the right people…..

128 122 Year Old Obama  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:07:19am

re: #126 Charles Johnson

Dudebros and GG fanboys?

129 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:09:19am

re: #128 122 Year Old Obama

Dudebros and GG fanboys?

Dumbass Anons most likely

130 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:10:00am
Each of the conferences is charting its own course to end the saga and evade a debt limit crisis on Oct. 17. But after two weeks of intraparty turmoil, neither side seems to trust the other about what the way out should look like. Senior senators describe little coordination between Republicans on each side of the Capitol on important decisions like spending levels and how long the government should be funded and the debt ceiling raised.

The lines are so crossed that GOP senators asked President Barack Obama during a White House meeting on Friday to fill them in on the House plan, senators attending the meeting said. They simply hadn’t seen it.

Republican senators are maneuvering to cut a big bipartisan deal with the backing of the White House, which could jam a House GOP that is on a separate track in pursuit of a shorter-term fix. Senior House Republicans are scoffing at the leading Senate GOP proposal, while keeping their GOP Senate colleagues in the dark about their latest plans to end the impasse.

Remember kids, all politics is local. LOL.

Hey Dark, here’s another question for you to try and dodge, how does it feel to read shit like this? Your Party is brazenly airing its own pathological dysfunction in the world press, which would be funny if the stakes weren’t just so goddamned important.

131 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:16:22am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

From what I saw on MSNBC earlier tonight, the Senate GOP are trying to hammer out a year-long debt ceiling hike in exchange for a repeal on the medical devices tax, which is an idea that some of the Dems can get behind. The House GOP is working on a six-week debt limit hike but keeping the government shut down while they negotiate over defunding Obamacare.

Guess who the WH would be more likely to deal with?

Boehner and his caucus of howler monkeys in the House need to get over it already, They lost. They’re not going to get any traction out of anything that isn’t a serious proposal.

132 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:17:15am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

GOP Senators, “Obama can you ask the House if they like like me?

133 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:18:33am

So Obama is now willing to make deals over the debt ceiling?

134 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:19:56am

re: #120 sagehen

The permanent damage they’ve already done, even if it’s solved over the weekend:

littlegreenfootballs.com

Wonderful.
Sigh…

135 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:20:08am

re: #133 Amory Blaine

So Obama is now willing to make deals over the debt ceiling?

Some of the Senate Dems are. That’s no indication that POTUS is. He could counter with accepting the year long hike and being open to discussing the medical device tax after the debt limit is raised and the government re-opened.

136 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:23:23am
137 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:32:14am

re: #129 Kragar

Dumbass Anons most likely

Anon fucknuts, impotent with rage, with LOIC (or something similar); it wouldn’t surprise me if they had anything to do with the recent LGF server/network troubles

Dudebro shit gets old fast…

138 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:35:41am
139 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:38:35am

re: #132 Amory Blaine

GOP Senators, “Obama can you ask the House if they like like me?

After this is all hashed out it’d be nice if McConnell went to Reid and both sides agreed to eject Ted Cruz from the Senate for fomenting insurrection. It would send a clear message to the tea baggers to watch their step, that the moderates will join with Democrats to cut the cancer out of the national body politic.

Won’t happen, and to be honest it could backfire on them pretty badly. Thing is though, no matter what else happens they’re looking at a hellish electoral future. The Tea Party is likely to split fully from the Republicans in several races this Fall, not accepting primary losses and challenging incumbent GOP reps all the way to the general election, handing those seats to the Democrats. If they go nuclear first and can inflict real harm on the Tea Party the Republicans could theoretically get ahead of this and ward off some of the damage by helping to paint the worst of the baggers for what they are, antithetical to responsible governance.

The downside that is that being the first nuclear strike in the GOP civil war, there’d be no going back. The moderates would absolutely have to win the battle for the Republican brand just to hold onto the fundraising apparatus, and even then they’re still probably forever fucked because Wall Street and the money men can’t trust them anymore. Their only hope going forward is to somehow magically repair all the damage, permanently sideline the religious right into a third party sideshow, do a quick 180 on social issues and immigration and relax their objections to raising revenues.

In the end, if I’m being honest, they’re a dying party of old white men. A collection of rigid, inflexible, stolid old fools, bigots and self interested pricks. There’s no way they pull this off.

140 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:39:39am

re: #138 Lidane

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Sounds efficient, not at all ripe for abuse.

141 piratedan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:48:10am

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

have to agree with a lot of your points frank, never thought I would see the complete self-immolation of one of our national parties in my lifetime. The thing is, this is all self inflicted, the money chose to “ride the tiger” hoping to eke out along the margins, trying to keep the minorities, women, poor from all banding together by attempting to peddle their culture war mantra 24/7 and damned if it didn’t work for a while.

What will be fascinating will be to watch how this plays out, naturally I intend to follow the money to see where that coalesces and see if there will be an internal or external putsch within the ranks and how they hope to rid themselves from the extremists that they given a taste of power to, i.e. will there be a transition and how painful will it be and how much shit will they end up putting the country through as they get themselves reassembled into one, two or three factions… because we have the Corporatists, The Theocrats, the Loonies and The Grifters now, so who will be ascendant and do they all stay?

142 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:48:36am

You shut down for a few hours, I have time to read around, pages just fly from my fingers.

littlegreenfootballs.com

143 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 1:51:46am

re: #139 goddamnedfrank

After this is all hashed out it’d be nice if McConnell went to Reid and both sides agreed to eject Ted Cruz from the Senate for fomenting insurrection. It would send a nice message to the tea baggers to watch their step, that the moderates will join with Democrats to cut the cancer out of the national body politic.

While that would be an amazing thing to see, I agree with you that it won’t happen. It would just make Cruz a martyr to the teabagger morons and they’d keep doubling down on the weapons-grade stupid.

However, in theory they could find a way to procedurally marginalize him for the remainder of his term. Voting to table any legislation he writes, moving him off the Judicary and Armed Services committees and giving him lesser assignments, etc. Make it clear that he doesn’t get to bring the nation to the verge of default for his pet causes and still have any sort of real part to play in the Senate.

In the end, if I’m being honest, they’re a dying party of old white men. A collection of rigid, inflexible, stolid old fools, bigots and self interested pricks. There’s no way they pull this off.

Oh, they know they’re a dying party. Demographic trends are death for the GOP. It’s why they work so hard to gerrymander districts and make it harder to vote, and why they’re acting so incoherent during this whole shutdown.

I’ve said before that a Mondale-style national beating would be the one thing to get the GOP establishment to finally kick the bigots and idiots to the curb the way the Dems marginalized the hippies and moonbats. I’m not so sure anymore. I’m thinking that the kamikaze actions of the GOP these past weeks and their fanatical determination to burn the country down to stick it to Obama finally woke the corporate establishment up from their stupor.

It will be really interesting to watch the GOP races in the next election. I suspect the teabaggers bringing us to the edge of default will be met with a whole lot of money going to their more moderate opponents.

144 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 2:11:04am

re: #143 Lidane

It will be really interesting to watch the GOP races in the next election. I suspect the teabaggers bringing us to the edge of default will be met with a whole lot of money going to their more moderate opponents.

If Dimon, Blankfeld et al really put their minds to it, even the Kochs and the Waltons can be persuaded to throw the teabaggers under the bus. Then drive back over them a couple of times. Maybe nuke them from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 2:15:42am

hahahaa…mohr butthurt:

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney gave a press briefing Friday and because he did not call on Fox News’ Ed Henry to ask a question immediately, the reporter walked out. But, to hear right wing sources tell it Henry was snubbed, although from this video I’m just not seeing it.

Fox News’ reporter has the sads, walks out of briefing after Jay Carney did not immediately take his question

146 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:02:45am

re: #73 b_sharp

He’s going to sink his candidates chances.

His candidate has no chances to sink; Booker’s going to defeat him handily, no matter what.

147 aagcobb  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:09:23am

re: #91 SnowdenBaggerVance

fuckyoucongress.com

Epic

148 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:22:35am

If anybody wants Walking Dead spoilers:

uproxx.com

149 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:26:44am

re: #91 SnowdenBaggerVance

fuckyoucongress.com

Hold on, we’re receiving a very special transmission directly from the Mars Curiosity rover. This is incredible, let’s see what it has to say. The transmission is coming in now. Here we go, it says, “FUCK YOU CONGRESS.” Wow, harsh words for a robot. Guess you shouldn’t have furloughed the employee running its mission

150 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:28:26am

Well kids, what did I miss? Between painting the back deck, getting The Teenager ready for life in a dorm room and my dog breaking out with some sort of scaly rash AGAIN, I kinda tuned out of politics for a couple days. Looks like not much has changed. The nasty idiots are still in charge of the GOP and the government is still running on fumes, is that about it?

The local wingnuts have gone kinda quiet. I hope it’s because they’re embarrassed. But then I remember these nitwits still have Paul Broun for Senate signs in their yards, so I’d guess they’re quiet for other reasons. Which is creepy, and not in a fun Halloween kind of way.

151 Archangelus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:37:49am

re: #148 sagehen

If anybody wants Walking Dead spoilers:

uproxx.com

MustNotClickMustNotClickMustNotClickMustNotClickMustNotClickMustNotClick……

152 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:42:29am

I believe this blowup will be seen as the Fort Sumter of the GOP Civil War. Louie and his supporters do not retreat, they reload and double down, and as soon as they get any pushback they will come out even loonier.

153 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:47:15am

re: #65 Iwouldprefernotto

Just got this ad on Facebook

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So all we need to do to stop Welfare fraud is like a page.

thanks Zuckerberg

this has f&ck all to do with Welfare reform, it is all about political posturing.

154 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:48:28am

re: #152 Sol Berdinowitz

A civil war, yes, in the Republican party. I have a feeling a lot of RINO repubs are gonna get tossed. I betchya even a few non rinos too.

155 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:58:41am

I posted a page; please take a look: Tea Party Literacy.

littlegreenfootballs.com

156 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:59:22am

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

And that’s only saying so much.

157 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:59:55am

re: #8 Bulworth

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No true anarchist…

Dudebros loves them some anarchy.

OFFS

158 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:00:24am

re: #154 Flounder

I’m not sure at this point who is going to oust who. There’s a lot of infrastructure the GOP has built up over the last 30-40 yrs. I think that’s going to be the actual thing the saner big money is going to want to protect. If the nuts get hold of all what’s been gained and run it entirely, they’ll fuck it up. The money men aren’t going to go quietly with the teabaggers, not now. I’d bet the teabaggers go rogue and form that third party. They’ll get support and money funneled at them, but not enough to win anything other than the safe districts they already have. I honestly hope some of those safe districts shift some with the exposed nutbaggery, but it’s hard to tell what’s coming with these freaks.

159 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:00:54am

re: #13 piratedan

Forget it, Jake. It’s Chinatown.

160 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:04:37am

re: #22 Vicious Babushka

I’m anthropologically/linguistically interested in the word “libtards.”

Especially as we Lizardim have tried to remove the -tard suffix, as well as the use of the word “retard” as a slur and an unnecessarily unkind phrase.

So, why do these RWNJs love using it?

Hurm.

161 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:08:08am

re: #148 sagehen

If anybody wants Walking Dead spoilers:

uproxx.com

They’re all dead. What is there to spoil?

162 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:08:33am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

After Ross Perot I don’t think a third party will ever happen.

163 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:08:56am

re: #71 goddamnedfrank

Treating a stripper like an actual person = SCANDAL!

These fuckwads… I don’t even…

HULK SMASH!

164 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:09:49am

re: #75 goddamnedfrank

Okay, so which is it, are you pissed off that Booker didn’t act like a letch, or are you pissed he didn’t act like a prude? It can’t be both.

Sure it can!

Cognitive dissonance FTW!

165 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:11:00am

re: #83 jaunte

I regret I only have one upding to give.

166 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:12:12am

Heh…

167 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:20:19am

re: #91 SnowdenBaggerVance

fuckyoucongress.com

This is the best thing ever.

168 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:21:32am

Elephant attacks and kills zoo keeper

cbsnews.com

Elephants account for the highest number of human deaths in zoos. Elephants can throw rocks with their trunk too!

Youtube Video

169 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:22:13am

re: #99 Kragar

Steve Lonegan Plans To Fire Staffer Who Gave X-Rated Interview

So Shaftan woke up this morning as a senior staffer and got fired as a “vendor”.

ROFLMAO

Time keeps on spinnin’, spinnin’, into the future…

170 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:22:56am

re: #104 alpuz

Anybody else like The Ninth Configuration?

Hella yeah.

171 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:21am

re: #162 Flounder

Perhaps, but let’s remember that learning from history isn’t really their strong suit. I just can’t see the big money and corporate backers giving the old school GOP the heave ho and letting the Spite Caucus run everything. IMO, what they are really fighting over bottom line is an immense party infrastructure, everything from think tanks and lobby shops to the RNC and other fundraising committees and all points in between. That’s where the money is, with no financial backing, the teabaggers’ choices get really limited. The other question is can the old school GOP minimize the tea party? Is it too late to take the party back? Someone’s going to have to peel off and either go away or form into something else. There’s a lot of old entrenched money in there, it’ll be interesting to see where that old money goes and how much influence it still has.

172 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:24:04am

re: #119 Charles Johnson

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

DUN DUN DUN!

173 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:28:40am

re: #99 Kragar

Steve Lonegan Plans To Fire Staffer Who Gave X-Rated Interview

So Shaftan woke up this morning as a senior staffer and got fired as a “vendor”.

ROFLMAO

That frees him up to go to the Values Voters Summit.

174 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:40:16am

re: #130 goddamnedfrank

It feels like shit, Frank, it feels like shit.

175 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:42:31am

Elephants Get the Point of Pointing, Study Shows

We point to things without giving much thought to what a sophisticated act it really is. By simply extending a finger, we can let other people know we want to draw their attention to an object, and indicate which object it is.

As sophisticated as pointing may be, however, babies usually learn to do it by their first birthday. “If you don’t get that they’re drawing your attention to an object, they’ll get cross,” said Richard W. Byrne, a biologist at the University of St Andrews.

When scientists test other species, they find that pointing is a rare gift in the animal kingdom. Even our closest relatives, like chimpanzees, don’t seem to get the point of pointing.

But Dr. Byrne and his graduate student Anna Smet now say they have discovered wild animals that also appear to understand pointing: elephants. The study, involving just 11 elephants, is hardly the last word on the subject. But it raises a provocative possibility that elephants have a deep social intelligence that rivals humans’ in some ways.

176 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:48:36am

re: #175 Amory Blaine

Dogs get pointing.

If elephants do… well, that’s a thing.

I doubt dolphins or whales would work the visual (no fingers), but they might have a sonar analogue…

177 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:50:35am

re: #168 Flounder

Elephant attacks and kills zoo keeper

cbsnews.com

Elephants account for the highest number of human deaths in zoos. Elephants can throw rocks with their trunk too!

[Embedded content]

There’s a metaphor to be found here….

178 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:52:06am

re: #176 chadu

Dogs get pointing.

If elephants do… well, that’s a thing.

I doubt dolphins or whales would work the visual (no fingers), but they might have a sonar analogue…

Let’s see you take an elephant pheasant hunting.

179 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:56:37am
180 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:57:57am

Red States are more reliant on federal funding, so it will hit in the homes of those 30-40 asshole Republicans hardest…which is okay by me.

181 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:59:20am

This morning for breffist:

Take a piece of bread and a shot glass. Turn shot glass upside down and punch a hole through the bread. Place bread and hole into hot frying pan. Drop and egg into hole, cook till brown on one side, flip over, cook to brown and nom nom nom. I kick it up a notch and slap down a piece of cheese.

182 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:02:48am

re: #177 sagehen

There’s a metaphor to be found here….

Here it is: Elephants are keystone species in that they effect the whole environment. The elephant party in the US is similarly keystone: If it becomes badly dysfunction things seize up badly.

183 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:02:49am

re: #178 darthstar

Let’s see you take an elephant pheasant hunting.

As a retriever or as a shooter?

184 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:04:50am

re: #180 darthstar

Red States are more reliant on federal funding, so it will hit in the homes of those 30-40 asshole Republicans hardest…which is okay by me.

Interested to see how that all works out.

Given the “Fuck you, I got mine!” mentality of the TP, it’ll be fascinating to see how grassroots TPers react to the full effect of a govt shutdown.

185 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:06:00am

re: #181 Flounder

This morning for breffist:

Take a piece of bread and a shot glass. Turn shot glass upside down and punch a hole through the bread. Place bread and hole into hot frying pan. Drop and egg into hole, cook till brown on one side, flip over, cook to brown and nom nom nom. I kick it up a notch and slap down a piece of cheese.

Toad in a Hole? NICE!

186 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:08:49am

re: #185 chadu

I call it a gramma egg. It seems to have quite a few names.

187 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:10:11am

re: #186 Flounder

My gramma egg is poached on toast, so I dig.

188 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:10:54am

GRAMMAS ARE WONDERFUL!

189 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:13:32am

re: #187 chadu

That’s close, maybe we are related ;)

190 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:16:09am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. States are trying to figure out ways to reopen national parks operated by the NPS because they’re having serious economic harms. Deals between NY, AZ, and the US govt has resulted in reopening the Statue of Liberty and the Grand Canyon.

Rather rich that AZ’s Jan Brewer had to go scrounge up the money it takes to run the Grand Canyon because the feds shut it down all because the economic harms were too great. Guess the shutdown has some real effects that GOPers just didn’t like.

And that’s the problem with this workaround. The shutdown is supposed to be a situation that must be avoided because it has serious economic harms. Workarounds appear to make it more palatable, and that fits right into the GOP strategy of slicing and dicing government programs they don’t like. They’ve turned to using economic chaos as a tactic. Whether it’s the shutdown or the debt ceiling default, they think they can use these events as leverage. Neither should provide anyone leverage, and yet here they are doing just that - and the TP extortionists among the GOP are reveling in this.

Meanwhile, Steve Lonegan surprised me a bit when he decided to send his top campaign guy packing for the odious comments from yesterday. I would have thought he’d let him stick around for a few more days, or brush off the comments the way he usually does.

The attacks they made on Booker are asinine and misogynistic. If Booker had acted in the way they suggested, they’d be attacking him for the inappropriateness of those comments and indicating that he shouldn’t be running. Instead, Shaftan and Lonegan revealed that they really do see women as objects and intend to alienate half the population of NJ in one fell swoop. And that’s after making comments that would alienate the African American and other minority communities in the state.

A lovely bunch.

191 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:16:37am

re: #181 Flounder

This morning for breffist:

Take a piece of bread and a shot glass. Turn shot glass upside down and punch a hole through the bread. Place bread and hole into hot frying pan. Drop and egg into hole, cook till brown on one side, flip over, cook to brown and nom nom nom. I kick it up a notch and slap down a piece of cheese.

Fill shot glass with bourbon. Swallow. Repeat.

Got my folks here…makin’ bacon & eggs for them before we head to the airport, then it’s a weekend in Vegas baby!

192 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:19:59am
193 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:22:15am

re: #123 122 Year Old Obama

It was apparently directed at LGF’s IP address.

Sounds like you have some admirers.

///

I’d like to take this opportunity to apologize for making comments bashing Kim Jong-un, I had no idea he’d take such hostile retaliation upon this website.

//

194 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:24:14am

re: #186 Flounder

I call it a gramma egg. It seems to have quite a few names.

My mother called it “egg in a frame”. In one of Sue Grafton’s Kinsey Millhone novels a character calls it a “one-eyed jack”.

195 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:26:13am

Lynsie Lee had probably the best summation of the GOP/Shaftan/Lonegan’s position about Booker:

Lee, reached by phone today, said she questioned whether the Shaftan interview would hurt Lonegan’s campaign more than Booker’s.

“It sounds weird. He’s supposed to be conservative and he’s ragging on Cory Booker for acting conservative,” Lee said. “He’s trying to make Cory Booker look bad, I think it made him look worse.”

The Booker campaign was not amused by Shaftan’s rant.

“These comments are disgraceful, demeaning and beneath even the incredibly low bar set by the Lonegan campaign thus far,” Booker spokeswoman Silvia Alvarez said. “If you want insight into the kind of senator Mr. Lonegan would be, start here.”

Troy Stevenson, head of Garden State Equality, the state’s largest gay rights group, said Shaftan’s “homophobic, misogynistic and pornographic tirade is a disgrace.”

Booker acts appropriately and how conservatives claim to act and Lonegan’s campaign chief thinks he should have been inappropriate. which is all too often how conservatives do act.

196 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:32:47am

re: #190 lawhawk

The attacks they made on Booker are asinine and misogynistic. If Booker had acted in the way they suggested, they’d be attacking him for the inappropriateness of those comments and indicating that he shouldn’t be running. Instead, Shaftan and Lonegan revealed that they really do see women as objects and intend to alienate half the population of NJ in one fell swoop. And that’s after making comments that would alienate the African American and other minority communities in the state.

A lovely bunch.

what, just because they called Newark a black hole? Just an astronomical term, c’mon, you know how scientifically inclined they are, physics is their life, what kind of racist would think they meant anything else?

//

197 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:43:25am

re: #196 sagehen

And claiming that the Passaic River was polluted with all the dead bodies from Newark.

Yeah, a real winner.

198 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:50:32am

I wonder how day two of the trucker’s shutting down America will go, They told us it was a 3 day event.

Time to play a truck spotting Where’s Waldo on the DC highways.

199 uncah91  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:05:57am

Clearly Shaftan’s comment are a misfire from a campaign standpoint, as well as being reprehensible.

But the general campaign strategy behind those comments is old and well known. He put Booker into a sentence or two that reminded people about the stripper kerfuffle, suggested he was gay and also mentions political corruption. He put distasteful things in a sentence with Cory Booker that would receive air play.

That’s a long time ploy, even though it horribly, horribly backfired here.

200 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:09:53am

re: #195 lawhawk

Lynsie Lee had probably the best summation of the GOP/Shaftan/Lonegan’s position about Booker:

Booker acts appropriately and how conservatives claim to act and Lonegan’s campaign chief thinks he should have been inappropriate. which is all too often how conservatives do act.

201 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:13:54am

re: #200 Gus

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So Mr. Shaftan there is basically doing yeoman’s work at getting out the vote for Mr. Booker.

Heck of a job, Rick.

///

What an ass. GOP rebranding FAIL.

202 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:15:35am

re: #200 Gus

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Oy.

203 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:16:16am

re: #201 Dr Lizardo

So Mr. Shaftan there is basically doing yeoman’s work at getting out the vote for Mr. Booker.

Heck of a job, Rick.

///

What an ass. GOP rebranding FAIL.

There’s more!

The Confederate Flag and Politics
By Rick Shaftan

…This flag issue will grow in significance not just in South Carolina but elsewhere. This fall, my wife and I saw Lynard Skynard at the Meadowlands here in NJ. The biggest cheer came when a hundred foot long Confederate flag dropped down as they opened “Sweet Home Alabama.” Virtually every booth at the Sussex County fair (which next year will be the New Jersey State Fair) was selling Confederate merchandise.

Because the legislature’s approval is necessary for any change in the flag status, the issue will override all others in this year’s races. If Republicans hold the State House, which is highly likely, efforts to remove the flag will end. If they take the State Senate. You will see expanded efforts in other Southern states to provide recognition for the Confederate flag, seen by some as a symbol of heritage and others as a symbol of rebellion against political correctness.

I saw some very strong intensity on this issue, something the PC types in the media and others do not understand. This is a strong single issue vote. The “respectable” business and church interests in the state who switched sides and called for the flag to be taken down made a serious mistake here and will find that they will not be able to count on the “redneck vote” when the chips are down. Bush is smart enough to realize he cannot win the White House without these voters. McCain doesn’t believe in anything, and therefore is able to take the SCV and the NAACP position at the same time. This is why he isn’t going anywhere…

204 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:19:25am

re: #203 Gus

There’s more!

The Confederate Flag and Politics
By Rick Shaftan

Good lord. Mr. Shaftan is a rather brazenly open neo-Confederate.

*headdesk*

205 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:22:06am

re: #204 Dr Lizardo

Good lord. Mr. Shaftan is a rather brazenly open neo-Confederate.

*headdesk*

The Night Dixie Burned Down John McCain
by Rick Shaftan

The firewall in SC held solid for Bush, as conservatives, rebel flag supporters, and pro-lifers came to his rescue putting him over the top by a solid 13 points. More importantly, Bush won all six Congressional Districts and lost only Charleston County…

…Bush’s victory proves that the more things change the more they remain the same. Make no mistake about it, everytime the media talked about “Democrats and Independents” supporting McCain, most South Carolinians heard “Black Voters.” Hyping a large black turnout is the old trick used to turn out a large white vote and it still works today. McCain even lost the black majority Sixth Congressional District, where this strategy would obviously work best with minority whites…

Bush won because he made a solid appeal to conservative voters; he even had me sympathetic to him. Whether he succeeds in this election and beyond depends on whether he sticks with the people who carried him through Carolina or attempts to appeal to the PC types, media elites, abortion enthusiasts, campaign finance reform freaks, rebel flag burners, and Al Gore supporters who suffered such a humiliating defeat in Dixie last night.

He’s also part of Minuteman PAC. Acted as a spokesman for them and Chris Simcox in the past. RT/Tweets some Pat Buchanan articles.

206 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:24:44am
207 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:26:22am

re: #205 Gus

The Night Dixie Burned Down John McCain
by Rick Shaftan

He’s also part of Minuteman PAC. Acted as a spokesman for them and Chris Simcox in the past. RT/Tweets some Pat Buchanan articles.

Unreal. Was Coochie trying to appeal to the neo-Confederate/redneck/Teabagger voters only? That seems a rather suicidal strategy, but then I’ve only been to VA as a tourist once for a few days, so I can’t say I have any deep knowledge of VA’s internal politics.

208 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:30:07am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Unreal. Was Coochie trying to appeal to the neo-Confederate/redneck/Teabagger voters only? That seems a rather suicidal strategy, but then I’ve only been to VA as a tourist once for a few days, so I can’t say I have any deep knowledge of VA’s internal politics.

He thinks he’s Lee Atwater.

209 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:33:45am
210 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:35:03am

re: #208 Gus

He thinks he’s Lee Atwater.

Heh.

I wonder what the TP’ers are gonna say should Coochie and that insane E.W. Jackson get their asses handed to them?

They weren’t conservative enough? Voter fraud?

211 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:40:27am

re: #210 Dr Lizardo

Heh.

I wonder what the TP’ers are gonna say should Coochie and that insane E.W. Jackson get their asses handed to them?

They weren’t conservative enough? Voter fraud?

It’s basically politics by marketing. Find out what the base wants and then sell it to them. The primary sales pitch being pro-life issues. Then guns. Etc.

212 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:40:56am
213 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:42:21am

re: #212 Gus

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Ok…that’s…uh…swell?

214 A Mom Anon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:43:03am

Alright, I have to leave you all to it. No Dog Walk, No Peace. Not sure how much I’ll be around for a couple weeks. I’m not sure at the moment how much politics I can take. It’s so disheartening. Which of course is a feature, not a bug, it’s what the assholes want. For people like me to get so disgusted we don’t vote or bother getting involved because we’re disgusted and feel it’s a lost cause. I don’t feel it’s hopeless, I just feel nauseated that it’s like this in the first place. All that money being spent that could go towards really good and helpful (and even profitable) things, you know, besides spending it telling people that affordable health insurance is of the evildemonliberaldevil.

I have to pour some hope on a young adult and get him ready to leave home for the first time for an extended period. He leaves on the 19th,only a week from now. It will be the first time in nearly 30 yrs I haven’t had a kid growing up in our house. That’s going to be WEIRD. TTYL lizards, be excellent to one another.

215 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:43:04am

re: #203 Gus

There’s more!

The Confederate Flag and Politics
By Rick Shaftan

It’s fucking nutjob turtles all the way down on this douche.

216 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:44:20am

re: #211 Gus

It’s basically politics by marketing. Find out what the base wants and then sell it to them. The primary sales pitch being pro-life issues. Then guns. Etc.

The fatal flaw with that strategy is that it makes no attempt to appeal to those outside the base. If a political party has none to minimal appeal to anyone beyond their core constituency, they are doomed. The party simply becomes a vast, ideologically self-reinforcing echo chamber.

217 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:45:06am

re: #212 Gus

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Um, okay, Star.

I’m cool with that.

More pot and nakedness for me…

Wait.

218 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:45:54am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Unreal. Was Coochie trying to appeal to the neo-Confederate/redneck/Teabagger voters only? That seems a rather suicidal strategy, but then I’ve only been to VA as a tourist once for a few days, so I can’t say I have any deep knowledge of VA’s internal politics.

He thinks McCain should have appealed to those voters even more, after he had already given them the giant word salad that is Sarah Palin.

But while the McCain family’s 19th and 20th Century roots are in Mississippi, John S. McCain III is not ‘from the South’. He has made clear he was really from the US Navy and expect for his time as a POW he was rarely in one place for long till he retired from it. Thus waving the Confederate flag holds no appeal for Sen. McCain, as he feels no real attachment to it.

219 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:48:00am

re: #205 Gus

The Night Dixie Burned Down John McCain
by Rick Shaftan

He’s also part of Minuteman PAC. Acted as a spokesman for them and Chris Simcox in the past. RT/Tweets some Pat Buchanan articles.

Real winner you picked there Mr. Lonegan.

220 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:48:55am

Star Parker helped kick off today’s Values Voter Summit by telling liberals that even though they beseech conservatives to “smoke a little pot, take off your clothes in front of total strangers a little, give up your guns, give up your God and your disapproval of gays,” they will never do such things no matter how much they beg.”

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:49:31am

re: #185 chadu

We call it toad in a hole, too.

222 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:51:13am

My demands to conservatives:

1. Smoke lots of weed.
2. Get naked in front of strangers.
3. Give up your God!
4. Turn in yer gunz!
5. Accept teh ghey.

//

223 miclaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:52:54am

Louie and the name-callers - reminds me of what the arabs in egypt calling their ideological enemies -

224 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:53:16am

re: #222 Gus

My demands to conservatives:

1. Smoke lots of weed.
2. Get naked in front of strangers.
3. Give up your God!
4. Turn in yer gunz!
5. Accept teh ghey.

//

Go back to Argentina, you Juan Peron fan!!1

225 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:53:51am

re: #224 Dark_Falcon

Go back to Argentina, you Juan Peron fan!!1

Who? :D

226 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:55:49am

re: #195 lawhawk

Lynsie Lee had probably the best summation of the GOP/Shaftan/Lonegan’s position about Booker:

Booker acts appropriately and how conservatives claim to act and Lonegan’s campaign chief thinks he should have been inappropriate. which is all too often how conservatives do act.

I need to thank Rich Shaftan. Not that I was voting for Lonegan in the first place, but whatever doubts I had about Booker are starting to appear vanishingly small.

Lawhawk, if you’re still on the board, what’s the race look like up in North Jersey? I commented the other day that down here, it’s actually kind of quiet. I’m not sure if it’s because they’re both North Jersey guys, or it’s being overshadowed by the Republican temper tantrum.

227 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:56:49am

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

He thinks McCain should have appealed to those voters even more, after he had already given them the giant word salad that is Sarah Palin.

But while the McCain family’s 19th and 20th Century roots are in Mississippi, John S. McCain III is not ‘from the South’. He has made clear he was really from the US Navy and expect for his time as a POW he was rarely in one place for long till he retired from it. Thus waving the Confederate flag holds no appeal for Sen. McCain, as he feels no real attachment to it.

It just looks to me that Cuccinelli isn’t even trying to appeal to anyone beyond the TP’ers. Not exactly a recipe for electoral success, unless a pretty clear majority of the entire state’s population consists of that particular core constituency.

I think it was Nixon who said - more or less - “To win the White House, you have to run to the right in the primaries and then run like hell back to center in the general election”. It was something to that effect.

Cuccinelli doesn’t even seem to be trying to “run like hell back to the center”.

228 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:57:45am

re: #206 Gus

Lila is but a squashed dung beetle on the bottom of one’s shoe compared to Malala.

229 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:58:34am

re: #225 Gus

Who? :D

The dude who’s doing those Dos Equis ads now?

230 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:58:55am

re: #227 Dr Lizardo

It just looks to me that Cuccinelli isn’t even trying to appeal to anyone beyond the TP’ers. Not exactly a recipe for electoral success, unless a pretty clear majority of the entire state’s population consists of that particular core constituency.

I think it was Nixon who said - more or less - “To win the White House, you have to run to the right in the primaries and then run like hell back to center in the general election”. It was something to that effect.

Cuccinelli doesn’t even seem to be trying to “run like hell back to the center”.

Ron Paul has recently endorsed Cuccinelli.

231 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:00:23am

re: #230 Gus

Ron Paul has recently endorsed Cuccinelli.

I saw that the other day.

232 BongCrodny  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:01:43am

re: #220 Gus

Star Parker helped kick off today’s Values Voter Summit by telling liberals that even though they beseech conservatives to “smoke a little pot, take off your clothes in front of total strangers a little, give up your guns, give up your God and your disapproval of gays,” they will never do such things no matter how much they beg.”

Star is right, of course.

This very morning, I advised no less than six people to smoke a little pot, take off their clothes in front of total strangers a little, give up their guns, give up their God and their disapproval of gays. In that very order, no less.

I don’t think they listened, so next I’m going to make a very large sign and go stand in front of the supermarket and start yelling. I’m thinking I might take off my clothes, too.

233 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:03:21am

re: #232 BongCrodny

Make sure you smoke a little pot first, just so you get the order right.

234 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:04:30am

LIBERALS WILL FORCE CHRISTIANS TO SMOKE POT AND GIT NEKID!!

235 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:05:48am

I just told Star Parker to think and quit being an ignorant douche too.

She’s not going to do it.

236 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:05:51am

After we ban Christmas!

237 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:05:59am
238 Danack  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:06:09am

re: #158 A Mom Anon

I’m not sure at this point who is going to oust who. There’s a lot of infrastructure the GOP has built up over the last 30-40 yrs. I think that’s going to be the actual thing the saner big money is going to want to protect.

The problem for the non-insane parts of the GOP establishment is that it doesn’t cost that much money to primary ‘RINOs’ at the national Congressional level, and costs even less to primary candidates for state legislature level.

Here’s my prediction:

* The GOP establishment and Wallstreet money effectively withdraw (get pushed out) to the national infrastructure that has been built up, leaving the GOP party at the local and state level being controlled by the TeaHadists.

* The results in an almost complete breakdown in national co-ordination of message control and strategy for all state-wide and congressional elections for the GOP. This leads to feelings of euphoria as the TeaHadists get more extremist candidates elected, whilst leading to a decline in the total number of GOP elected officials.

* The TeaHadists declare the final push for victory and start a new round of purging people they consider to be RINOs - which by this point includes anyone who doesn’t have a copy of the constitution tatooed on their forehead.

It’s only when the TeaHadists have thinned their own ranks through fighting within themselves will it be possible for the GOP establishment to move out from their redoubts and reassert control over the Republican party.

239 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:06:41am

re: #236 Gus

After we ban Christmas!

And make Sharia same-sex marriage mandatory!

240 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:07:24am

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

And make Sharia same-sex marriage mandatory!

Ban meat! //

241 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:08:42am

re: #240 Gus

Ban meat! //

Halal Butterball turkeys will be compulsory!!

242 GlutenFreeJesus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:09:25am

VVS: Voldemort Values Summit

243 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:11:08am

re: #232 BongCrodny

Star is right, of course.

This very morning, I advised no less than six people to smoke a little pot, take off their clothes in front of total strangers a little, give up their guns, give up their God and their disapproval of gays. In that very order, no less.

I don’t think they listened, so next I’m going to make a very large sign and go stand in front of the supermarket and start yelling. I’m thinking I might take off my clothes, too.

Kinda OT, but there is a young mystery woman in Shanghai who, during the evening hours, will pose naked for sidewalk cellphone snaps. shanghaiist.com (NOTE: these photos have blurred naughty bits. Her face is also blurred, but for different reasons.)

I am pretty sure she is not Republican.

244 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:14:24am

The House GOP’s Little Rule Change That Guaranteed A Shutdown

Late on the night of Sept. 30, with the federal government just hours away from shutting down, House Republicans quietly made a small change to the House rules that blocked a potential avenue for ending the shutdown.

It went largely unnoticed at the time. But with the shutdown more than a week old and House Democrats searching for any legislative wiggle room to end it, the move looms large in retrospect in the minds of the minority party.

“What people don’t know is that they rigged the rules of the House to keep the government shut down,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-MD), ranking member of the House Budget Committee, told TPM in an interview. “This is a blatant effort to make sure that the Senate bill did not come up for a vote.”

Here’s what happened.

245 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:15:05am

If only all those white dudes smoked a blunt and got a little nekkid, there’d be no shutdown.

246 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:19:56am

re: #244 SnowdenBaggerVance

The House GOP’s Little Rule Change That Guaranteed A Shutdown

The GOP leadership rigged the system to ensure a shutdown.

“Obama’s shutdown” my ass. This is on the GOP, 100%

247 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:20:02am

re: #245 SnowdenBaggerVance

If only all those white dudes smoked a blunt and got a little nekkid, there’d be no shutdown.

So true on so many different levels.

248 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:23:20am

They wanted a shut down. It’s been in their rhetoric.

The shut down has been poo poo’d as no big deal by many right wing pundits and blowhards: the gov has been shut down 17 times before and the world didn’t end.

But when problems happen, it’s Obama’s shutdown.

This is argumentum ad 12 year old

249 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:27:51am

re: #243 wheat-dogghazi

Kinda OT, but there is a young mystery woman in Shanghai who, during the evening hours, will pose naked for sidewalk cellphone snaps. shanghaiist.com (NOTE: these photos have blurred naughty bits. Her face is also blurred, but for different reasons.)

I am pretty sure she is not Republican.

Heh. Looks like she’s quite the exhibitionist.

250 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:42:49am

Is this what Snowden is going to be confined to while working for the Russians?

Heh heh.

Russia reportedly planning state-controlled ‘Sputnik’ search engine

theverge.com

“In what appears to be a further attempt to censor the internet, Russia is reportedly building its own state-controlled search engine. The report comes from Russian newspaper Vedomosti, which claims that the search engine will be called Sputnik, and is being developed by state-owned telecom Rostelecom. It could potentially become the default search tool for government institutions. The telecom has reportedly invested more than $20 million in the project, and is attempting to lure talent from rival companies with hopes to launch the search engine early next year. However, even if the report is true, the search engine will likely have a tough time cracking the Russian market. Local company Yandex holds more than 60 percent market share in the country, with the likes of Google and other search engines filling out the rest. “With its lack of expertise, the venture is unlikely to meet with success,” says VTB analyst Ivan Kim.”

251 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:49:41am

Libruls will force conservative men to grow their hair long, wear beads and Roman sandals!

253 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:56:08am

Apparently the Duggars are going to be stumping for Ken here in Va.

254 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:56:55am

re: #253 Varek Raith

Apparently the Duggars are going to be stumping for Ken here in Va.

They’re currently at VVS.

255 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:58:14am

re: #254 Gus

They’re currently at VVS.

Ah.

256 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:58:36am

Morning, Lizards.

My older son is following in his father’s footsteps, attempting to talk sense to Conservatives on the internet. I believe I’ll call him ‘Speaker to Idiots’. He does need some lessons on proper sourcing of facts. I’ve found that you can often shut them up by using their own sources against them. Often, but not always.

Last year, he thought he wanted to go into politics. He’s very bright, and because of the Aspergers I think he has difficulty grasping the Conservative mindset of living in constant denial of simple fact and reason. He thought all he had to do was explain things right. If only!

257 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:58:45am

re: #249 Dr Lizardo

Heh. Looks like she’s quite the exhibitionist.

The police are supposedly trying to bust her, but I suspect halfheartedly. Meanwhile, the Chinese version of the American Religious Right are suggesting she has a mental disease, or is a criminal, or is a threat to a “harmonious society.” Oh, the horror!

I have not heard any reports that she’s accepting money for posing, so they can’t arrest her for prostitution. Shanghai has plenty of other girls who do accept money for more services than just posing for cellphone snaps, and the police just leave them alone, too.

On a related note, Sora Aoi is very popular in China, although officially none of her videos or photosets can be sold in China.

258 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:59:19am

re: #253 Varek Raith

Apparently the Duggars are going to be stumping for Ken here in Va.

re: #254 Gus

They’re currently at VVS.

All of em?!?!?

259 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:00:19am

re: #258 wrenchwench

All of em?!?!?

They’re half the audience.

260 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:01:41am

MOrning all!

How is life?

261 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:03:05am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

MOrning all!

How is life?

Life. Don’t talk to me about life.

263 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:03:51am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

MOrning all!

How is life?

It would be great if the RWNJs would stop trying to fuck it up.

264 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:04:33am

re: #260 FemNaziBitch

MOrning all!

How is life?

Life is very good, but it’s time for bed here in China. So, see you in my morning about 8 hours from now.

265 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:04:37am

Do, the Duggars? The people with a small town for a family?

What’s up with that?

266 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:04:44am

re: #261 GeneJockey

Life. Don’t talk to me about life.

That sounds like a Grumpy Cat line.

267 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:05:35am
268 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:06:18am
269 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:06:26am

re: #267 Gus

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God makes media whores?

270 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:06:45am

re: #267 Gus

[Embedded content]

It was better as a Python sketch in ‘Meaning of Life’ -

“Pick that up, would you, Dierdre?”

271 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:06:47am

re: #256 GeneJockey

He thought all he had to do was explain things right. If only!

I think you believe in morons and a detached reality because you don’t want things explained to you.

Teh Crazy is a feature, not a bug.

272 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:06:55am


HA!

273 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:07:16am

re: #268 Varek Raith

Image: 2061201272_1370105469.jpg

Excellent

274 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:07:48am
275 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:07:54am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

That sounds like a Grumpy Cat line,

Marvin got there first, by almost 35 years.

276 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:08:00am

re: #268 Varek Raith

Image: 2061201272_1370105469.jpg

Thank you.

277 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:08:37am

Ted Cruz: Obama will ‘start quartering soldiers in people’s homes soon’

Question!
What does it take to be ejected from Congress???

278 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:09:24am

re: #274 Gus

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I know - The Learning Channel runs ‘Here Comes Honey BooBoo’?

279 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:10:23am

re: #278 GeneJockey

I know - The Learning Channel runs ‘Here Comes Honey BooBoo’?

Yep.

280 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:10:26am

re: #277 Varek Raith

Ted Cruz: Obama will ‘start quartering soldiers in people’s homes soon’

Question!
What does it take to be ejected from Congress???

Well, to be fair, he said it as a joke.

281 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:10:59am

re: #280 GeneJockey

Well, to be fair, he said it as a joke.


..
.
Oh.
Well…
Nevermind.

282 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:11:20am
283 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:11:21am

TLC; Oxymoron of the century!

284 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:11:27am

re: #271 SnowdenBaggerVance

I think you believe in morons and a detached reality because you don’t want things explained to you.

Teh Crazy is a feature, not a bug.

EXPLANATIONS ARE A LIBRUL PLOT!!!!

285 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:12:01am

re: #277 Varek Raith

Ted Cruz: Obama will ‘start quartering soldiers in people’s homes soon’

Question!
What does it take to be ejected from Congress???

It would take 75 senators voting to remove him. At the rate he’s going, he should reach that number by Christmas.

286 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:12:02am

re: #281 Varek Raith


..
.
Oh.
Well…
Nevermind.

I didn’t say it made sense, even as a joke, but the yokels lapped it up.

287 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:13:05am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

It would take 75 senators voting to remove him. At the rate he’s going, he should reach that number by Christmas.

Yeah, he seems to enjoy nuking bridges…

288 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:13:33am

re: #277 Varek Raith

Ted Cruz: Obama will ‘start quartering soldiers in people’s homes soon’

Question!
What does it take to be ejected from Congress???

Ya know, of all the things. Obama is a lawyer. He crosses all the “ts” and dots all the “i-s”.

The whole quartering of soldiers thing is specifically prohibited in the Constitution—no?

289 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:14:05am

And wtf is up with him going after McCain?
Yeesh.

290 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:14:13am

MTV… The Music Channel

//

291 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:14:41am

re: #288 FemNaziBitch

Ya know, of all the things. Obama is a lawyer. He crosses all the “ts” and dots all the “i-s”.

The whole quartering of soldiers thing is specifically prohibited in the Constitution—no?

Third Amendment Rights Group Celebrates Another Successful Year

292 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:13am

re: #285 Dark_Falcon

It would take 75 senators voting to remove him. At the rate he’s going, he should reach that number by Christmas.

Oh, I don’t know. I can’t see the Dems wanting to get rid of him, he’s been so helpful. For one thing, the GOP at his behest has been so busy stepping on its collective dick that the abysmal rollout of the Obamacare exchanges has hardly merited any coverage.

.

293 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:29am
92°
Electromagnetic storm, raining aircraft

Lol.

294 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:44am

re: #290 Gus

MTV… The Music Channel

//

Well “See B S” still is true to form. ///

295 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:48am

re: #289 Varek Raith

And wtf is up with him going after McCain?
Yeesh.

You mean Gohmert? I said why in the second post of the thread:

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Louie Gohmert is just butthurt because John McCain is a braver, smarter, and better man than he’ll ever be. His words are the whine of a loser.

296 SnowdenBaggerVance  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:16:05am

re: #280 GeneJockey

Well, to be fair, he said it as a joke.

Yeah, a joke. Ha ha.

(Wink)

297 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:16:07am
298 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:16:07am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

You mean Gohmert? I said why in the second post of the thread:

Geez, I need coffee.
:/

299 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:17:12am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

You mean Gohmert? I said why in the second post of the thread:

I think they really, really want him to retire and clear the way for Palin to run in his spot. She is so much more malleable.

300 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:17:31am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

You mean Gohmert? I said why in the second post of the thread:

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Louie Gohmert is just butthurt because John McCain is a braver, smarter, and better man than he’ll ever be. His words are the whine of a loser.

Well, shit - who ISN’T a braver, smarter, and better man? Well, apart from the Double-X types.

301 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:17:48am

I stayed off the computer all day (mostly) yesterday. You know. Nothing bad happened.

302 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:18:59am

We got more rain yesterday than August and September combined.
GO AWAY!

303 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:19:15am

re: #299 FemNaziBitch

I think they really, really want him to retire and clear the way for Palin to run in his spot. She is so much more malleable.

She doesn’t live in Texas, GGT.

304 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:19:33am

re: #300 GeneJockey

Well, shit - who ISN’T a braver, smarter, and better man? Well, apart from the Double-X types.

“‘Raymond Shaw is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life,”

305 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:19:54am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

She doesn’t live in Texas, GGT.

They want McCain to retire.

306 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:20:12am

re: #302 Varek Raith

PA got a lot of rain these past 2 days. Today it is overcast.

307 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:21:22am

Dear Gohmert,
You wouldn’t like McCain when he’s mad. Don’t make him mad..

..
.

Dammit! You made him mad!

308 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:24:34am

OT, but it’s getting to the point in the year when we need to turn the heat on in the mornings, and just the other night, the girl Greyhound curled up in the Eskie’s bed, which is JUST BIG ENOUGH to hold a completely coiled Greyhound. Time for her pajamas.

309 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:25:45am

re: #308 GeneJockey

OT, but it’s getting to the point in the year when we need to turn the heat on in the mornings, and just the other night, the girl Greyhound curled up in the Eskie’s bed, with is JUST BIG ENOUGH to hold a completely coiled Greyhound. Time for her pajamas.

Our weather has been changing day-to-day. Normally (well, in the past) it was cold by now.

310 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:28:59am

How pissed at Gov. Brown is the California legislature this morning? Probably profoundly.

Fits the old school definition of fiscal conservative. Respects and has enjoyed hunting. Just vetoed some excess gun laws that had passed the houses. Glad I voted for him.

311 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:30:05am

re: #308 GeneJockey

OT, but it’s getting to the point in the year when we need to turn the heat on in the mornings, and just the other night, the girl Greyhound curled up in the Eskie’s bed, which is JUST BIG ENOUGH to hold a completely coiled Greyhound. Time for her pajamas.

Our Doberman enjoyed wearing hoodie jackets in the winter.

312 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:34:30am
313 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:35:31am
314 Bear  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:36:18am

re: #310 GOPHostage#25698724

However as I recall Brown did sign the bill outlawing lead in bullets. That would eliminate all current 22, and almost all rifle bullets.

315 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:38:28am

re: #311 prairiefire

Our Doberman enjoyed wearing hoodie jackets in the winter.

Within the first couple weeks after we got our male Greyhound, he got a skin tear on his right flank - thin skin! We had to put him in a T-shirt to keep him from picking at the stitches.

316 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:38:31am
317 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:39:26am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Joe The Plumber: ‘America Needs A White Republican President’

“I’ve seen it. It’s rubbish.” - Marvin.

I’m getting a lot of mileage out of Marvin today.

318 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:40:48am
319 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:41:24am

re: #314 Bear

However as I recall Brown did sign the bill outlawing lead in bullets. That would eliminate all current 22, and almost all rifle bullets.

Unless I’m misinformed, that’s no lead for hunting. The downside there might be some hunters return to steel bullets. They can be a fire hazard. As far as I know target shooting is still unhindered.

320 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:41:25am

re: #316 FemNaziBitch

Joe The Plumber: ‘America Needs A White Republican President’

Subtlety, thy name is Joe the Plumber.

/////

321 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:42:04am

re: #303 Dark_Falcon

She doesn’t live in Texas, GGT.

Only has to live there after the election like any other carpetbagger left or right.

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:44:46am

re: #310 GOPHostage#25698724

How pissed at Gov. Brown is the California legislature this morning? Probably profoundly.

Fits the old school definition of fiscal conservative. Respects and has enjoyed hunting. Just vetoed some excess gun laws that had passed the houses. Glad I voted for him.

Plus passed the no-lead law with some good restrictions. The signing statement is good reading for anyone who hunts: gov.ca.gov

323 Bear  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:45:47am

re: #319 GOPHostage#25698724

Remember that most jacketed rifle bullets have lead cores.

324 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:47:54am
325 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:47:55am

Well, that was fun.

Ran into a lady running for town council as a Republican. I told her I’m not voting Republican after all the gargbage they’ve done over the last 2 weeks. Told me the shutdown is Obama’s fault, then got mad when I wasn’t willing to listen to her.

Any Republicans out there: what the fuck is it with you guys and denial of reality? Your party is standing in front of the burning building, holding matches and reeking of gasoline. Yet it’s Obama’s fault.

And that false balance shit? Fuck. That.

326 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:48:17am

re: #319 GOPHostage#25698724

Unless I’m misinformed, that’s no lead for hunting. The downside there might be some hunters return to steel bullets. They can be a fire hazard. As far as I know target shooting is still unhindered.

Much of that is covered in the signing statement I referenced above.

I wonder if there are any home sized furnaces that can handle copper (1000 C) or bronze (950 C) like the ones for lead (328 C) so that it would be possible to cast non-lead bullets at home?

327 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:49:08am

re: #325 Mattand

Well, that was fun.

Ran into a lady running for town council as a Republican. I told her I’m not voting Republican after all the gargbage they’ve done over the last 2 weeks. Told the me the shutdown is Obama’s fault, then got mad when I wasn’t willing to listen to her.

Any Republicans out there: what the fuck is it with you guys and denial of reality? Your party is standing in front of the burning building, holding matches and reeking of gasoline. Yet it’s Obama’s fault.

And that false balance shit? Fuck. That.

A woman? You would have done better to talk to her about the GOP’s War on Women. Ask her why she would vote for a party that didn’t trust her with her own vagina?

328 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:50:46am
329 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:52:06am

re: #327 FemNaziBitch

A woman? You would have done better to talk to her about the GOP’s War on Women. Ask her why she would vote for a party that didn’t trust her with her own vagina?

It didn’t get that far. It escalated/devolved pretty quickly once I heard “That’s the President” when I mentioned the shut down.

However, those are really good points. I will definitely use them. Maybe I’m wrong, but I fairly positive Christie would have gone for PA/WI/VA style abortion restrictions here, if he thought he could get away with it.

330 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:52:10am

re: #323 Bear

Sure, but now bullet makers have a market. Hunters can find what they need, although in the context on an ongoing shortage.

331 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:52:24am

re: #327 FemNaziBitch

A woman? You would have done better just as well to talk to her about the GOP’s War on Women.

Denial of reality spreads across all issues.

332 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:52:47am
333 piratedan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:53:18am

well I really have to admire the tenacity of the Tea Party in all of this… much like the idea of a dog trying to lick the last bit of food from an empty can kinda of tenacity but the whole idea of negotiation means that you have to offer concessions not just concede what was understood to be a baseline…. just like the concept of government itself, tese folks seem to have not grasped the concept

334 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:53:38am

re: #329 Mattand

It didn’t get that far. It escalated/devolved pretty quickly once I heard “That’s the President” when I mentioned the shut down.

However, those are really good points. I will definitely use them. Maybe I’m wrong, but I fairly positive Christie would have gone for PA/WI/VA style abortion restrictions here, if he thought he could get away with it.

No reason to try logic —just use shock treatment. Bad body part words and the obvious.

335 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:53:53am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

Much of that is covered in the signing statement I referenced above.

I wonder if there are any home sized furnaces that can handle copper (1000 C) or bronze (950 C) like the ones for lead (328 C) so that it would be possible to cast non-lead bullets at home?

Copper, maybe, but don’t use bronze for bullets! If a handgun has been made for that caliber of bullet, the ATF considers any bronze bullets made for said caliber to be “armor-piercing handgun ammunition”. The ATF had been looking into revising the criteria regarding bronze, but their work on reclassification has been put on hold by the shutdown. Thanks, Gohmert!

/spits

336 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:54:08am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

Much of that is covered in the signing statement I referenced above.

I wonder if there are any home sized furnaces that can handle copper (1000 C) or bronze (950 C) like the ones for lead (328 C) so that it would be possible to cast non-lead bullets at home?

Home in the suburbs? Maybe a small induction furnace, gas is too loud and dangerous. It’s at the limit for electric resistance, you’d go through elements and crucibles like crazy I think.

337 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:54:21am

Afternoon Lizardim from the cloudy and cool wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk this Saturday?

338 Varek Raith  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:54:31am
339 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:55:14am

re: #329 Mattand

It didn’t get that far. It escalated/devolved pretty quickly once I heard “That’s the President” when I mentioned the shut down.

However, those are really good points. I will definitely use them. Maybe I’m wrong, but I fairly positive Christie would have gone for PA/WI/VA style abortion restrictions here, if he thought he could get away with it.

But he has not tried, and thus it is unfair to attack him over concerns with such laws if he has not supported their enactment.

340 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:56:09am

re: #326 William Barnett-Lewis

Much of that is covered in the signing statement I referenced above.

I wonder if there are any home sized furnaces that can handle copper (1000 C) or bronze (950 C) like the ones for lead (328 C) so that it would be possible to cast non-lead bullets at home?

Thanks for adding that link BTW.

341 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:56:14am

re: #331 wrenchwench

Denial of reality spreads across all issues.

I’m of the opinion when it comes to abortion and NJ Republicans, most of them are in the “Well, that doesn’t affect me” camp. Or the classic “That would never happen here.”

NJ seems to have this “independent” view of itself that I have major issues with. As I posted the other day, there’s a lot of people around here who are in Magic Balance Fairy mode over the shut down. And we’re supposedly one of the “liberal” states.

342 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:56:42am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

But he has not tried, and thus it is unfair to attack him over concerns with such laws if he has not supported their enactment.

Christie has repeatedly voted against funding family planning.

He can kiss my ass.

343 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:57:09am

re: #332 FemNaziBitch

Fox News’ Ben Carson: ‘Re-educate the women’ because ‘they get all riled up’ over abortion

I just can’t scream loud enough.

Seriously.

So wanting my full autonomy and agency as a woman means I’m riled up? Great. Consider me riled.

344 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:58:14am

re: #337 thedopefishlives

Afternoon Lizardim from the cloudy and cool wild north country. How go things among the lizardfolk this Saturday?

The douchecanoes are coming by in such numbers that you’d think the Values Voters Summit was the Chicago river during a site-seeing excursion.

345 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:59:19am

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

But he has not tried, and thus it is unfair to attack him over concerns with such laws if he has not supported their enactment.

“He has not tried.”

Really.

YOUR party goes to him and says “Shut down Obamacare or we’ll torch the national AND global economies.”

And you’re accusing him of not trying.

You people are in such fucking denial that you’re taking the rest of us down with you. That’s why I’m not voting Republican. Possibly ever again.

346 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:59:46am

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

The douchecanoes are coming by in such numbers that you’d think the Values Voters Summit was the Chicago river during a site-seeing excursion.

Rather appropriate given the general condition of the Chicago River.

347 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:59:50am

re: #234 Gus

LIBERALS WILL FORCE CHRISTIANS TO SMOKE POT AND GIT NEKID!!

I seriously fail to see how this is a bad thing, even for my fat pasty bloated ass.

348 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:00:29am

Spencer and Geller continue walking back their support for tommy Robinson leaving the EDL.

I had no idea that it was a Quilliam press conference, and certainly had no idea that Tommy and Kevin Carroll would be led around like dogs 0n a leash. It was after that phone call, and before I had any idea that Tommy would be closely allying with false moderate Muslim deceivers who would crow about “decapitating the EDL,” that Robert Spencer and I composed our first statement, supporting Tommy and his decision. We never would have come out in support of him if we had known that he would soon be parroting politically correct nonsense about “extremists on both sides.” (OMG! MBF! - ed)
…..
Then at the press conference, both he and Kevin Carroll were the showcases of a Quilliam victory dance. They looked eerily reminiscent of the American POW’s taken by enemy combatants and forced to say things they did not believe before cameras.

I only subsequently learned, after releasing our initial statement of support, that he had been meeting with Islamic supremacist deceivers like Mo Ansar for 18 months, and was taking instruction on Islam from the false moderates of the Quilliam Foundation.
…..
It has become painfully obvious that the enemies of freedom have broken Tommy Robinson.
….
It is clear what is happening. Now he is the poster boy for the stealth jihad.

349 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:04am

re: #345 Mattand

EDIT: I see now that DF was referring to Christie. That was the wrong response.

However, my anger towards the GOP in the statement stands.

350 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:12am

re: #251 Gus

Libruls will force conservative men to grow their hair long, wear beads and Roman sandals!

I am against sandals. Otherwise, cool.

351 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:21am

re: #348 Killgore Trout

It’s cute how you think that Tommy Robinson has somehow had a sincere change of heart.

352 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:37am

re: #345 Mattand

I was talking about Chris Christie, not Barack Obama. I would ask you to alter your remarks given that fact.

353 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:48am

re: #350 chadu

I am against sandals. Otherwise, cool.

Leather boots are still in style, for manly footwear. //

354 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:01:52am
355 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:02:30am

re: #347 chadu

I seriously fail to see how this is a bad thing, even for my fat pasty bloated ass.

I honestly think a lot of these uptight hyper-holier-than-thou Christian types just need a really mind-blowing lay. Maybe it’d loosen up their sphincters a little bit.

356 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:03:25am

re: #346 thedopefishlives

Rather appropriate given the general condition of the Chicago River.

Your information is old, as the Chicago River has improved greatly in recent years. There actually is a canoe site-seeing event held at least once a year nowadays.

357 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:03:59am

re: #355 thedopefishlives

I never tried it in my sphincter but ok.

358 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:04:02am

re: #343 Lidane

Seriously.

So wanting my full autonomy and agency as a woman means I’m riled up? Great. Consider me riled.

“riled” is a term used for children and dogs. I’m a most definitely PISSED-OFF.

Ben Carson is a condescending POS.

359 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:04:08am

re: #356 Dark_Falcon

Your information is old, as the Chicago River has improved greatly in recent years. There actually is a canoe site-seeing event held at least once a year nowadays.

Of course my information is old. I’ve only ever been down by the river once, and that was a good 15 years ago.

360 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:04:14am

re: #256 GeneJockey

Last year, he thought he wanted to go into politics. He’s very bright, and because of the Aspergers I think he has difficulty grasping the Conservative mindset of living in constant denial of simple fact and reason. He thought all he had to do was explain things right. If only!

We need a Temple Grandin for politics. I say, go for it GJ-child!

Tell him Tea Partiers are cows, and have certain instinctual mental movements. They’re not a reasoning animal, so reason and fact mean nothing to them.

361 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:04:22am

Screw this. My chemistry teacher is dead wrong. I will now re-invent chemistry. As soon as I’m done watching TV.

Mom! I need some more snacks!

OK my little genius!

//

362 Mattand  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:04:54am

re: #352 Dark_Falcon

I was talking about Chris Christie, not Barack Obama. I would ask you to alter your remarks given that fact.

See 349. You’re right, about the wrong response and Christie having not enacted abortion restrictions.

I’m still of the mind that he will do anything to get the POTUS nomination, and he will radicalize the closer we get to that.

As far as my statements about the GOP and the shutdown: not walking that back. It wasn’t the right response for your defense of Christie, but I’ve had it up to here with “Obama’s to blame for the shutdown, too.” You unfortunately drew the short straw.

363 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:05:06am

re: #358 FemNaziBitch

Ben Carson is a condescending POS.

So he’s a Values Voters Summit speaker then?

364 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:05:59am

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

That sounds like a Grumpy Cat line.

Marvin the Paranoid Android. HHGttG.

365 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:06:19am

re: #363 Lidane

So he’s a Values Voters Summit speaker then?

Patriarchal Values Voter Summit.

366 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:06:32am

re: #364 chadu

Marvin the Paranoid Android. HHGttG.

Marvin the Martian?

367 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:07:21am

Chemistry should be about your feelings. Your emotions. Not chemistry. Chemistry is really more like poetry.

//

368 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:08:57am
369 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:09:44am

Because a 14 year old kid from the suburbs knows more about history than his history teacher with a masters in history and 20 years of teaching experience.

//

370 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:10:26am
371 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:10:41am

re: #369 Gus

Because a 14 year old kid from the suburbs knows more about history than his history teacher with a masters in history and 20 years of teaching experience.

//

from playing video games, no doubt.

372 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:11:47am

re: #369 Gus

I also believe living thru history gives you a better perspective than reading about it.

373 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:13:57am
374 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:15:33am

OMG! scroll down.

375 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:16:06am

re: #362 Mattand

See 349. You’re right, about the wrong response and Christie having not enacted abortion restrictions.

I’m still of the mind that he will do anything to get the POTUS nomination, and he will radicalize the closer we get to that.

As far as my statements about the GOP and the shutdown: not walking that back. It wasn’t the right response for your defense of Christie, but I’ve had it up to here with “Obama’s to blame for the shutdown, too.” You unfortunately drew the short straw.

I understand, it happens to us all. BBL

376 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:19:35am

re: #351 Lidane

It’s cute how you think that Tommy Robinson has somehow had a sincere change of heart.

I suspect his heart is sincere but he may remain a douchebag, that might be a permanent condition. Mostly I’m just enjoying watching the fighting over something they were all warned about years ago. This was inevitable and they can’t say they weren’t warned. This is what happens when people spend more time pointing fingers at others rather than keeping their own house clean.

377 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:19:58am

Mommy! Piano teacher wants me to practice scales! No fair! I want to learn how to play the piano without learning scales and on my own term!

OK Cartman. I’ll see what I can do.

//

378 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:21:20am

You guys have Google Earth? Open it up and activate the satellite weather layer. Looks like the shutdown has dropped coverage for about the eastern half of the country. I’d put it up myself as a jpeg but I’m in the middle of the Adobe Password fiasco and a Photoshop reinstall.

379 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:22:03am

Mommy! Teacher gave me homework! [Cries] I want juice box and Honey Boo-Boo.

//

380 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:23:09am

re: #299 FemNaziBitch

I think they really, really want him to retire and clear the way for Palin to run in his spot. She is so much more malleable.

That’s very clear. For the past 2-3 years, she’s made an effort to establish AZ residency, without actually saying so. (Not receiving the Alaska Permanent Fund money for a couple years says a thing.)

Whoever her handlers are, they’re playing a deep game, kinda haphazardly (because we can see it), but endgame is clear: Palin takes McCain’s seat.

And Johnny Mac either:
* Rebukes this idea, because he knows how she is unfit for office, throwing crap on his selection of her as VP candidate; or
* Supports it quietly, because of his previous selection of her as VP candidate, or they have dirt# on him.

#Not the Vicki Iseman thing, no. I’m more thinking of Todd Palin’s alleged pimping up in AK.

381 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:23:37am

Mommy! I want to be a football player.

OK son. Going to have to get you started on a PE program.

But I don’t want to exercise! I should be a football player because I said so!

//

382 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:24:01am

re: #381 Gus

Sounds like you’re having a special snowflake moment.

383 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:24:57am

I’m not sure I want to know the bastardization of science necessary to do this:
Kuwait and Other Gulf Countries to Medically Test Travelers in Order to ‘Detect Gay’

384 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:26:14am

re: #380 chadu

That’s very clear. For the past 2-3 years, she’s made an effort to establish AZ residency, without actually saying so. (Not receiving the Alaska Permanent Fund money for a couple years says a thing.)

Whoever her handlers are, they’re playing a deep game, kinda haphazardly (because we can see it), but endgame is clear: Palin takes McCain’s seat.

And Johnny Mac either:
* Rebukes this idea, because he knows how she is unfit for office, throwing crap on his selection of her as VP candidate; or
* Supports it quietly, because of his previous selection of her as VP candidate, or they have dirt# on him.

#Not the Vicki Iseman thing, no. I’m more thinking of Todd Palin’s alleged pimping up in AK.

Big house purchase in his district didn’t get noticed by big media, as far as I know. It’s ominous.

385 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:26:29am

A worthwhile and well reasoned article from Harry’s Place on Robinson and the EDL….

Tommy Robinson’s disengagement from the EDL is welcome but his next steps are even more important

De-radicalisation rarely occurs with a bang, with an instantaneous “Eureka!” moment of self-awareness. More often, it occurs over a period of time, beginning with much questioning and doubt, followed by a physical disengagement from one’s radical affiliations, followed - in some but not all cases - by a comprehensive re-alignment of one’s values.

Tommy Robinson says he has now renounced the English Defence League (EDL) and, by extension, some of his former associates. This physical disengagement from the group and its members, likely only partial at present, is therefore not the end of a de-radicalisation process but is rather the first small step of a much longer spiritual and intellectual journey.

Although the usual coalition of left-wing columnists, hard-right Islamists and closeted academics have already tried to discredit this development, Robinson’s public resignation from the EDL is a important and humiliating blow to the group, one of the most ‘successful’ far-right street movements in recent British history.

386 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:26:31am

re: #382 thedopefishlives

Sounds like you’re having a special snowflake moment.

Gus is a very special snowflake.

387 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:27:31am

re: #386 FemNaziBitch

Gus is a very special snowflake.

Hey, how are all the little Fishes?

388 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:30:09am
Or maybe you recall sharing my personal favorite, “Your sexual experiences don’t dictate your worth just like a woman’s sexual experiences don’t dictate hers.”

Last but not least, do you remember calling your son out when you discovered he was using the word “slut” liberally? Or when you overheard him talking about some girl from school as if she were more of a conquest than a person?

I want you to consider these conversations and then ask yourself why you don’t remember them. The likely reason is because you didn’t have them. In fact, most parents haven’t had them.

By contrast, here are some conversations you might have a better recollection of. I’ll give you a telling hint: they probably weren’t with your son.

389 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:31:25am

re: #385 Killgore Trout

A worthwhile and well reasoned article from Harry’s Place on Robinson and the EDL….

Tommy Robinson’s disengagement from the EDL is welcome but his next steps are even more important

Another good point too…

Of course, some people will want Robinson, and his backers at Quilliam, to fail, almost as if they would prefer the present status quo to continue. Indeed, a cynic could point to the fact that some prominent critics of his rejection of the EDL, like Nottingham University academic Matthew Goodwin, the recipient of almost £100,000 of UK government funding to research the far-right, have a vested interest in the survival of the EDL.

390 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:31:48am

re: #386 FemNaziBitch

Gus is a very special snowflake.

[Slaps GGT with cold fish.]

391 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:32:50am

re: #353 Gus

Leather boots are still in style, for manly footwear. //

Yup. I need me a pair of cavalier boots.

no /

392 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:32:56am

re: #390 Gus

[Slaps GGT with cold fish.]

Some people can’t handle the truth … .

’)

393 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:34:26am

re: #355 thedopefishlives

I honestly think a lot of these uptight hyper-holier-than-thou Christian types just need a really mind-blowing lay. Maybe it’d loosen up their sphincters a little bit.

I agree.

I [REDACTED].

Hurm.

Suffice to say, I’ve had a couple sexual experiences that broadened my mind.

394 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:35:12am

re: #357 Flounder

I never tried it in my sphincter but ok.

My opinion is “no in thru the out door” unless you dig it.

395 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:39:20am

re: #387 FemNaziBitch

Hey, how are all the little Fishes?

They are doing well. I am home alone with them while the Mrs. Fish is out in her newly repaired Mafiamobile picking up groceries.

396 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:40:43am

re: #384 FemNaziBitch

Big house purchase in his district didn’t get noticed by big media, as far as I know. It’s ominous.

INORITE?

397 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:43:58am

re: #393 chadu

I agree.

I [REDACTED].

Hurm.

Suffice to say, I’ve had a couple sexual experiences that broadened my mind.

HEATHEN!!!

398 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:44:11am

re: #388 FemNaziBitch

I was grounded for a week after I called my sister an “ignorant slut” — riffing off of SNL repeats in the late 70s/early 80s.

I was probably 9, so she would have been 6.

399 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:46:58am

re: #397 FemNaziBitch

HEATHEN!!!

Hella yeah. And worse.

I believe… that women are actual people, and not magic pottery kilns from the gods that poop out babies.

And maybe throwing unwanted babies into the fire might not actually please Baal.

400 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:47:24am
401 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:49:02am

re: #389 Killgore Trout

Another good point too…

There are some good points in that piece, but the one you point out there is decidedly not one of them.

Indeed, a cynic could point to the fact that some prominent critics of his rejection of the EDL, like Nottingham University academic Matthew Goodwin, the recipient of almost £100,000 of UK government funding to research the far-right, have a vested interest in the survival of the EDL.

That hogwash discredits the rest of the piece. One might as well say that doctors do not want to see diseases eradicated because they make their livings treating sick people.

And why would the author not think the same criticism is equally valid when applied to himself?

James Brandon is an Associate Fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation (ICSR) at King’s College London. He was Quilliam’s Director of Research and Communications from 2008 to 2011.

Is he pro-radicalisation? A cynic might suggest so.

Also, since he’s from Quilliam, of course he would tend to take Tommy’s change of heart as sincere more so than the average observer.

402 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:51:24am
403 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:55:54am

Keepin up on Brad Pitt and the Zombie theme, hubby and I watched World War Z last night.

I guess it’s the latest in the Plague Movie genre.

It was just ok.

404 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:56:35am
405 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:57:20am

So to my total lack of surprise, I wake up to find that the Senate GOP proved my optimism to be foolish and filibustered their own proposal. Worse is that Collins, the brains behind said proposal and supposed “reasonable Republican,” voted against cloture.

To quote a popular meme, “I don’t know what I expected.”

406 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:58:37am
407 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:59:02am

re: #401 wrenchwench

The next paragraph states that there is some legitimate reason for concern and doubt….

Some scepticism towards Robinson’s move is of course natural; his ‘change’ may be a tactical ruse to ‘mainstream’ his extremism, as some fear. Alternatively, he may not be fully de-radicalisable; not all extremists are. But, while remaining sceptical and cautious, we should welcome the possibility that his professed willingness to reform is genuine. The EDL was a vile and disruptive presence, frightening ordinary Muslims and providing easy ammunition for radical Islamist recruiters wanting to depict the British people as the enemy. With the departure of Robinson, its most able leader, we may now have an opportunity to destroy a movement that has been both troublesome and stubbornly enduring.

Quilliam should therefore not rest on its laurels; a long-term strategy needed to ensure that Robinson becomes not just an ex-EDL leader, or worse the founder of a new EDL-lite, as some fear, but rather a champion of genuine liberalism and moderation.

408 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:00:01am

re: #366 FemNaziBitch

Marvin the Martian?

No, that’s “I’m not angry, just very hurt”, and “Where’s the Kaboom? There was supposed to be an earth-shattering kaboom!”

409 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:00:54am
410 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:02:43am

re: #406 FemNaziBitch

[Embedded content]

Actually, I’d say they have a sexual repression problem, but that’s just me.

411 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:04:04am

Yes, I agree, a joint and a roll in the sheets with a partner was uninhibited as them would solve a lot of problems in the GOP.

Either that or regression to teenage emotional years therapy to confront issues.

412 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:04:27am

All I gotta say is:

Re-read.

littlegreenfootballs.com

413 Whack-A-Mole  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:05:03am

re: #403 FemNaziBitch

As usual, the book is so much better.

414 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:06:17am

re: #407 Killgore Trout

The next paragraph states that there is some legitimate reason for concern and doubt….

I see that only as a part of trying to seem fair and balanced. He is lashing out at a man who is much more skeptical about Tommy’s sincerety. First he calls him a ‘closeted academic’, then he slurs him with the statemnt I pointed out above. He’s mad that Matthew Goodwin wrote this:

[…]

That both Lennon and Quilliam were so aggressive in advertising to the media the apparent conversion and celebrating their publicity on Twitter should speak volumes. The dignified and difficult work of counter-extremism was not really there, replaced by an uncomfortable descent into self-promotion with little evidence of substantive change. A cynic could point to the fact that both the EDL and Quilliam have had their own difficulties in recent months and that this is all a ruse to make Lennon’s warped view of Islam seem mainstream. After all, in the late 1990s one fairly prominent activist made a similar stand, complaining that demonstrations and violence were not the way forward. His name was Nick Griffin.

[…]

…and the rest of it.

415 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:06:56am
416 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:07:00am
417 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:08:06am

re: #416 FemNaziBitch

I once had a guy tell me …

Jesus. Some of those things are horrifying.

418 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:08:11am

re: #411 FemNaziBitch

Yes, I agree, a joint and a roll in the sheets with a partner was uninhibited as them would solve a lot of problems in the GOP.

Either that or regression to teenage emotional years therapy to confront issues.

I suspect a lot of them DO go for the joint and a roll in the sheets with an uninhibited partner. Just not the one they’re married to. And that’s part of why they’re so repressive - “What? I could never do that with my wife! She’s the mother of my children!”

419 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:09:11am

re: #418 GeneJockey

I suspect a lot of them DO go for the joint and a roll in the sheets with an uninhibited partner. Just not the one they’re married to. And that’s part of why they’re so repressive - “What? I could never do that with my wife! She’s the mother of my children!”

Yeah, but it’s ok if THEY do it. …

:0grrrrr

420 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:09:31am

re: #416 FemNaziBitch

I once had a guy tell me …

I couldn’t even scroll down a page. Jebus.

421 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:09:33am

re: #413 Whack-A-Mole

As usual, the book is so much better.

There are exceptions, but this isn’t one of them.

422 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:09:53am

re: #418 GeneJockey

I suspect a lot of them DO go for the joint and a roll in the sheets with an uninhibited partner. Just not the one they’re married to. And that’s part of why they’re so repressive - “What? I could never do that with my wife! She’s the mother of my children!”

Yeah, inside the minds of the fundamentalists, a lot of really weird cognitive dissonance goes on. It comes back to the way sexuality is so severely repressed in an unhealthy fashion.

423 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:10:49am

re: #418 GeneJockey

What? I could never do that with my wife! She’s the mother of my children!”

I have actually heard that stated aloud.

No irony.

424 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:11:30am

re: #423 chadu

I have actually heard that stated aloud.

No irony.

The gentle, reserved women are for marrying. The loose, uninhibited women are for mistresses.

425 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:11:34am
426 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:12:39am
427 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:12:54am

re: #423 chadu

I have actually heard that stated aloud.

No irony.

Oh, I know. After my first child was born, and even before that when Mrs. Jockey was pregnant, I searched my mind for any ‘Madonna/Whore’ issues.

Nope. Don’t got none.

428 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:12:59am

re: #424 thedopefishlives

The gentle, reserved women are for marrying. The loose, uninhibited women are for mistresses whatever I want them for.

ftfy

429 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:13:26am

re: #424 thedopefishlives

The gentle, reserved women are for marrying. The loose, uninhibited women are for mistresses.

And we wonder why these people get so twisted.

430 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:13:40am


Hmm.

431 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:13:53am

re: #429 GeneJockey

And we wonder why these people get so twisted.

sucks for them when women don’t act the part.

432 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:14:35am

re: #421 kirkspencer

There are exceptions, but this isn’t one of them.

WWZ kinda sucks.

(Note that I hate bad zombie movies/lit, and 95% on the genre is bad.)

Also, I think this seeming desire for a zombie apocalypse, where everyone can be a hero because they have a gun, is a sad comment on the minds of our reading and watching public.

Fuck zombies. Fuck them to death beyond death with spoons.

433 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:15:43am

re: #429 GeneJockey

And we wonder why these people get so twisted.

Yeah. I’ve seen some pretty warped world views among the fundamentalists in my time. I’m just glad that my mom and dad were only slightly insane instead of off the deep end.

434 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:16:30am

Ya know, I am a 2nd Amendment person, but this is beyond the Right to Self-Defense.

435 elizajane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:16:56am

re: #424 thedopefishlives

The gentle, reserved women are for marrying. The loose, uninhibited women are for mistresses.

I know a book from the mid-16th-century that says almost exactly that. And you thought that the religious right only wanted to go back to the 1950s!

(OK, pretty cool that Chadu came up with the same dates! Did you read the same Flemish dating guide from 1540 that I did??)

436 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:17:09am

re: #424 thedopefishlives

The gentle, reserved women are for marrying. The loose, uninhibited women are for mistresses.

Yeah, what’s up with that?

The Romans didn’t play that shit, so where did it show up?

Somewhere in the 1500-1600 in a crude form, raised to apogee in 1700-1800, then a curious shift in the 1900s.

HURM.

Must ponder (and get more beer).

437 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:17:11am

re: #408 GeneJockey

One of my favorite Marvin quotes: “I told you this would all end in tears…”

438 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:17:17am

re: #432 chadu

WWZ kinda sucks.

(Note that I hate bad zombie movies/lit, and 95% on the genre is bad.)

Also, I think this seeming desire for a zombie apocalypse, where everyone can be a hero because they have a gun, is a sad comment on the minds of our reading and watching public.

Fuck zombies. Fuck them to death beyond death with spoons.

Yeah, I don’t do zombies or vampires. It was one of those movies I watched so I wouldn’t be too behind on current pop culture.

439 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:17:29am

I made it through about 30 seconds of Beck speech just now. He is ALMOST as obsessed with greedy and evil school teachers as he is with the Holocaust.

440 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:18:15am
441 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:18:50am


Uh huh.

442 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:19:27am
443 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:19:36am

re: #429 GeneJockey

And we wonder why these people get so twisted.

Because they can’t accept that gentle, reserved, loose, and uninhibited can exist simultaneously.

I could tell you stories.

444 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:19:50am

re: #437 Backwoods_Sleuth

One of my favorite Marvin quotes: “I told you this would all end in tears…”

That’s one of the older boy’s favorite sayings. We’ll be watching a TV show or a movie, and the critical bad decision gets made, and he says, “Well, THIS will all end in tears!”

445 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:20:30am

re: #438 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, I don’t do zombies or vampires. It was one of those movies I watched so I wouldn’t be too behind on current pop culture.

I like GOOD vampire stories.

There aren’t many on the ground so far.

446 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:20:55am

re: #440 FemNaziBitch

Fuckholes.

447 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:21:52am

re: #443 chadu

Because they can’t accept that gentle, reserved, loose, and uninhibited can exist simultaneously.

I could tell you stories.

The gingers are the best ones. ;)

448 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:22:18am

re: #443 chadu

Because they can’t accept that gentle, reserved, loose, and uninhibited can exist simultaneously.

I could tell you stories.

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I always thought these stories were fake, until last summer, at band camp….

449 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:23:09am

re: #444 GeneJockey

That’s one of the older boy’s favorite sayings. We’ll be watching a TV show or a movie, and the critical bad decision gets made, and he says, “Well, THIS will all end in tears!”

Heh, I do that too.
Hub’s favorite sayings in those situations are “that’ll leave a mark” or “he’ll feel that in the morning”.

450 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:23:23am

re: #447 thedopefishlives

The gingers are the best ones. ;)

I wouldn’t know. Never been with one. My wife did dye her hair auburn, once.

451 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:23:41am

re: #447 thedopefishlives

The gingers are the best ones. ;)

Nerds.

Image: nerd-chicks2.jpg

452 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:24:03am

re: #450 GeneJockey

I wouldn’t know. Never been with one. My wife did dye her hair auburn, once.

The Mrs. Fish is a strawberry blonde. My own hair is brown, but my beard comes in red. Imagine my surprise when both of the fishspawn came out red-headed.

453 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:25:16am

re: #443 chadu

Because they can’t accept that gentle, reserved, loose, and uninhibited can exist simultaneously.

I could tell you stories.

May I introduce Meredith Brooks?

454 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:30:10am
455 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:33:17am

re: #432 chadu

WWZ kinda sucks.

(Note that I hate bad zombie movies/lit, and 95% on the genre is bad.)

Also, I think this seeming desire for a zombie apocalypse, where everyone can be a hero because they have a gun, is a sad comment on the minds of our reading and watching public.

Fuck zombies. Fuck them to death beyond death with spoons.

fwiw, you know how I’d like to have produced WWZ?

As a TV series.

All chapter 1 is is the intro, and the 13 parts of chapter 9 are “where are we now” episodes. It’s the 45 event parts in chapters 2-8 that make the tale.

I think it’s possible to blend two or three parts from event chapters together and use a closer from chapter 9, doing it in 13 one-hour episodes. There are a small group of tales that would get left out, but it would make the thing work. You’d lose the linear/chronological episodic nature of the novel itself, but you’d get a show you could run on the networks. And if you decided to/got persuaded to do a second series, well, there are a lot of tales hinted at within the novel that could be expanded.

456 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:41:02am

re: #445 chadu

I like GOOD vampire stories.

There aren’t many on the ground so far.

You have to be careful and only let the Right One in… ;)

457 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:42:30am

re: #451 Dr Lizardo

Nerds.

Image: nerd-chicks2.jpg

Librarians and archaeologists… O_O

458 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:43:07am

re: #453 FemNaziBitch

May I introduce Meredith Brooks?

My wife loves that song.

459 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:44:28am

re: #457 William Barnett-Lewis

Librarians and archaeologists… O_O

and Sarah Palin —she’s every man’s Librarian fantasy —right?

*spit*

460 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:48:12am

re: #459 FemNaziBitch

and Sarah Palin —she’s every man’s Librarian fantasy —right?

*spit*

Jesus, that woman has a voice like nails on a chalkboard.

461 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:13:47pm

re: #447 thedopefishlives

The gingers are the best ones. ;)

Oh no. Not at all. Handle red-heads/gingers with care!

Trust me. Experience. I think they’ve bought into the mythology.

I’ve had sex with a ginger who thoughts she was a witch (had no actual knowledge of witchcraft at all; I think she was more saying she was in the CARRIE vein) and my ginger ex-wife (who had strong pagan beliefs, but the morals crumbled under her self-interest), who thought her shit didn’t stink.

Red-heads always catch my eye, just like platinum blondes, but I’m past thinking that’s appealing enough to talk to them.

462 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:21:23pm

re: #448 GeneJockey

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I always thought these stories were fake, until last summer, at band camp….

There’s a great WDVE (Pittsburgh) parody song for this. Alas, I sold my CD in senior year for ramen and smokes.

And now it’s worth $80, according to Amazon.

Shoot me in the head.

463 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:25:58pm

re: #453 FemNaziBitch

May I introduce Meredith Brooks?

And now I am in love.

Thanks, FNB, //

(No, really, thanks!)

464 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 12:27:48pm

re: #453 FemNaziBitch

I respond with Storm Large’s “My Vagina is 8 Miles Wide.”

Youtube Video

EDITED: To fix typos and provide right vidjo.


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