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1 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:02:39pm

The original Mason Williams version has been used on countless TV and radio shows. I remember a bowling show (yes!) that used it as the sound track.

2 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:11:23pm

He plays like two people in one.

3 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:13:45pm

Wow

4 allegro  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:17:36pm

re: #3 b.d.

Wow

Took the word right outa mah brain. Breathtaking artistry!

5 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:24:31pm

Meanwhile, on the other side of the world:

Holy Hittite city being unearthed in northern Turkey

Archaeological excavations have been ongoing for eight years in the village of Oymaağaç of Vezirköprü district in the northern province of Samsun, aiming to unearth the holy Hittite city of Nerik. The head of the excavations, German archaeologist Associate Professor Rainer Czichon said that works in Oymaağaç had started in 2005 and this year’s excavations had now ended.

Czichon said that they had carried out surface survey during the first two years, and then started excavations. “Our goal is to prove that Oymaağaç is the holy city of the Hittite, which is Nerik. “We already know that this region is a Hittite settlement. We have found cuneiform tablets that will prove that this place is Nerik. There are scriptures about Nerik in four cuneiform tablets that we found this year. There is a part named ‘Tahanga’ in two of the tablets. Tahanga is a section in Nerik’s ‘god of air’ temple. This is a strong proof that Oymaağaç is Nerik. We are sure for 95 percent,” Czichon said.

[…]

HOLY HITTITE!

/just because

6 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:27:11pm

Because derp doesn’t stop, even for killer music:

7 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:27:14pm

My son was in the other room and as that video came to an end he was all “what were you watching?” “Why? You didn’t like it?” “No, I liked it a lot.”

:D

8 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:28:55pm

re: #6 Lidane

Because derp doesn’t stop, even for killer music:

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How come Greenwald wasn’t in Russia when Snowden was presented his Leg Lamp of Freedom Award? it was a Dudebro family reunion and one would think that Glenn would have been there soaking up some limelight?

9 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:31:51pm

This is happening in Scott Walker’s Wisconsin:

Mine firm questions protester’s role as a state geologist

10 PhillyPretzel  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:33:57pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

Tommy Emmanuel is a maestro on the guitar.

11 Aqua Obama  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:34:52pm

re: #9 freetoken

I’ve been around lots of pit mines (cement country) but…

Gogebic is proposing to construct an open-pit mine in Ashland and Iron counties that, over time, could extend for about 4 miles

I heard you liked cheese, Wisconsin.

Swiss.

12 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:36:00pm

re: #9 freetoken

This is happening in Scott Walker’s Wisconsin:

Mine firm questions protester’s role as a state geologist

And those testifying experts who worked for the company are unbiased, of course.

13 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:40:55pm

I see paleo-Pat is pushing secessionism again.

Old Confederates never die, they just keep on pontificating.

14 William of Orange  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:51:56pm

Funniest picture of the day!

15 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:52:04pm

Well, thank FSM THAT’S done. For most of 1/2 hour, I thought I’d lost a screw about the size of flea shit. I looked everywhere. I was almost ready to give up, when I lifted one of the pieces and found the little MF hiding in the hole that takes a much larger screw. Now it’s all back together and having its 24 hour run-in.

So, how has the war on Derp fared while I watchmade?

16 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:55:54pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

So, how has the war on Derp fared while I watchmade?

17 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:57:56pm

re: #16 Lidane

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Oh, fer cryin’ in a bucket!!

18 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:59:23pm

re: #16 Lidane

It is all-or-nothing with the tea partying right.

They truly believe that they, being Good Christians, are victims of Obama’s war against them.

I only hope that the midterm election is unusual, and the turnout is as heavy as a Presidential election. otherwise the rabid right will remain in power.

19 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 3:59:35pm

Evening again, all. Hope things have been going well while I was up to my elbows in rusty brake parts.

20 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:02:11pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Watchmaker? What a wonderful craft. By some luck I get to see some fine pieces at a friends place.

21 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:07:09pm
22 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:08:08pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Well, thank FSM THAT’S done. For most of 1/2 hour, I thought I’d lost a screw about the size of flea shit. I looked everywhere. I was almost ready to give up, when I lifted one of the pieces and found the little MF hiding in the hole that takes a much larger screw. Now it’s all back together and having its 24 hour run-in.

So, how has the war on Derp fared while I watchmade?

re: #19 thedopefishlives

Evening again, all. Hope things have been going well while I was up to my elbows in rusty brake parts.

Good thing you guys had separate workbenches.

23 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:10:38pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Good thing you guys had separate workbenches.

Especially since I just about had the car fall off the jack while I was under it. First time I’ve had one of those incidents, and it scared the living daylights out of me. I’m terrified of that happening.

24 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:11:37pm

More of that RWNJ minority outreach:

25 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:11:40pm

re: #23 thedopefishlives

Especially since I just about had the car fall off the jack while I was under it. First time I’ve had one of those incidents, and it scared the living daylights out of me. I’m terrified of that happening.

As you should be! Safety first!

Or else switch to watches.

26 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:12:01pm

Generate a 32-character unique ID:

function uniqueID() {
	var id = '',
		i;
	for (i = 0; i < 8; i++) {
		id += (((1 + Math.random()) * 0x10000000000001) | 0).toString(36).substring(1);
		if (id.length >= 32) break;
	}
	return id.substring(0, 32);
}
27 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:12:47pm

re: #25 wrenchwench

As you should be! Safety first!

Or else switch to watches.

I’m pretty paranoid about safety when it comes to my wrenching. I thought I had it secure. I was so, so wrong. Thankfully I was able to hold it up on the jack long enough to get a jackstand in an awkward spot, reposition the jack, and secure the car.

28 Skip Intro  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:13:35pm
Learn this song from Tommy via multi-angle videos, transcriptions (Guitar Pro, Powertab, PDF, notation)!

It would be much more likely for me to teach myself to fly. I don’t even understand what I just saw.

29 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:17:19pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

Haunted, guaranteed.

30 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:18:07pm

This is what the “free marketeers” like those on the RW want, and goddamnit, these words are chilling: “We do not claim to be a facility,” said Chandler. “We claim to be extensions of [the] parents.”

New Mexico ranch where boys went missing was under investigation for abuse

investigations.nbcnews.com

“Fleming described an alleged incident in which a staffer had repeatedly hit Morgan in the head with a short metal rod called a kubotan. “He just smashed his forehead repeatedly,” said Fleming, “and it went on, gosh, for hours.”

“According to a police report of the incident, witnesses alleged that a staff member hit Morgan on the head for an hour and a half and then threatened to castrate him. Morgan allegedly replied, “Go ahead, I don’t care,” and said that when it was over at least he would get some sleep.

“Students also alleged that they had been shackled and handcuffed, forced to work and exercise for 15 hours at a time, and forced to beat each other up for infractions.”

I hope those responsible are convicted and serve some really hard time.

31 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:21:47pm

re: #24 Lidane

More of that RWNJ minority outreach:

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“If only blacks and latinos weren’t so lazy and stupid, they’d vote for us!”

32 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:23:35pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

This is what the “free marketeers” like those on the RW want, and goddamnit, these words are chilling: “We do not claim to be a facility,” said Chandler. “We claim to be extensions of [the] parents.”

New Mexico ranch where boys went missing was under investigation for abuse

investigations.nbcnews.com

“Fleming described an alleged incident in which a staffer had repeatedly hit Morgan in the head with a short metal rod called a kubotan. “He just smashed his forehead repeatedly,” said Fleming, “and it went on, gosh, for hours.”

“According to a police report of the incident, witnesses alleged that a staff member hit Morgan on the head for an hour and a half and then threatened to castrate him. Morgan allegedly replied, “Go ahead, I don’t care,” and said that when it was over at least he would get some sleep.

“Students also alleged that they had been shackled and handcuffed, forced to work and exercise for 15 hours at a time, and forced to beat each other up for infractions.”

I hope those responsible are convicted and serve some really hard time.

Thanks for posting that. I keep almost Paging it, but keep waiting for more info. Look at the website for that place. This is from their ‘program overview’:

A Simple Life

The ranch is a 30,000 acre working cattle ranch 40 miles from the nearest town. The Chandlers are Cattle ranchers with a heart for God, and turning kids lives around. The environment is similar to what a ranch would be like 100 years ago. It is a simple life, where kids get back to nature by camping, cooking, physical fitness, working cattle, riding horses, caring for animals, doing school work, reading, singing and being in a loving environment.
For over 15 years Tierra Blanca Ranch (TBR) has been working with kids that are:

1. Unmanageable & uncontrollable by their families or society 8. Unwanted or at-risk,
2. Spiraling out of control. 9. Emotionally, mentally or physically damaged by their environment
3. Not responding well with traditional counseling 10. Sexually abused
4. Defiant and noncompliant 11. Addicted to drugs, sex, pornography,
5. Stealing and Lying 12. Suicidal
6. Physically threatening 13. Hurting themselves or others
7. ADD, RAD, ADHD and other morbidities

There are instances when parents, counselors and therapists see a child needs to be removed from their current environment to help break the stalemate, the downward spiral, the irrational cycle in which the child is stuck before its too late.
Unmanageable Kids are taught:

• Responsibility,
• Self discipline,
• Leadership skills,
• Intellectual development,
• Consequences,
• The necessity of having self respect and respect for others.
• Sound biblical principles.

The last part was no surprise.

33 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:25:31pm


You might remember this guy.

34 ObserverArt  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:33:48pm

Tommy Emmanuel for Guitar President.

I love big swirling/cascading chords like he was playing. To a degree some of the chord strumming reminded me of Pete Townshend in his “Tommy” days.

But Pete couldn’t hit those little licks and those runs like Emmanuel.

35 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:34:07pm

re: #33 Gus

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You might remember this guy.

And according to the VVS, it’s the SPLC that’s the bad guy there.

36 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:36:19pm

re: #6 Lidane

Because derp doesn’t stop, even for killer music:

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Glenn Greenwald will back people from either major US party as long as they are members of what I call the Dudebro Alliance.

Any member of Congress Glenn Greenwald supports ought to be facing a primary challenge, because they are in favor of taking stupid risks with our national security.

37 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:36:58pm

Some more RW racism can be found here: #EBT

38 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:37:54pm

re: #33 Gus

Matthew Heimbach and the group was just waving (possibly at a bunch of patriotic truckers or motorcyclists) and innocently holding up their hands when that picture was taken!!1!1

39 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:38:47pm

Worth 1000 words?

Rocks And Hard Places

40 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:39:24pm

re: #33 Gus

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You might remember this guy.

Nazis. Piece of shit totalitarians whom all decent people should regard with contempt.

41 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:40:00pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

Thanks for posting that. I keep almost Paging it, but keep waiting for more info. Look at the website for that place. This is from their ‘program overview’:

The last part was no surprise.

Yeah, that “spare the rod and spoil the child” bullshit, although it sounds more like Torquemada was in charge and the Chandlers got lots of free labor—if you didn’t kneel to it, you got the rack and more. They claim kids are suffering from all those things (they call them “morbidities”!), but where’s the proof? It looks like, from the “testimonials” that they get these young men (the photos look like mid-teens+) from word of mouth advertising. Is anyone on earth keeping tabs on that place? tierrablancaranch.com

And WTF? Literal translation of Tierra Blanca is “White Earth”. Wonder if that has special meaning…

42 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:42:38pm

re: #30 Justanotherhuman

This is what the “free marketeers” like those on the RW want, and goddamnit, these words are chilling: “We do not claim to be a facility,” said Chandler. “We claim to be extensions of [the] parents.”

New Mexico ranch where boys went missing was under investigation for abuse

investigations.nbcnews.com

“Fleming described an alleged incident in which a staffer had repeatedly hit Morgan in the head with a short metal rod called a kubotan. “He just smashed his forehead repeatedly,” said Fleming, “and it went on, gosh, for hours.”

“According to a police report of the incident, witnesses alleged that a staff member hit Morgan on the head for an hour and a half and then threatened to castrate him. Morgan allegedly replied, “Go ahead, I don’t care,” and said that when it was over at least he would get some sleep.

“Students also alleged that they had been shackled and handcuffed, forced to work and exercise for 15 hours at a time, and forced to beat each other up for infractions.”

I hope those responsible are convicted and serve some really hard time.

Guess who’s the lawyer for the ranch in all of this?

Pete Domenici Jr., son of the former GOP senator from NM.

43 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:45:57pm

re: #42 AlexRogan

Guess who’s the lawyer for the ranch in all of this?

Pete Domenici Jr., son of the former GOP senator from NM.

Yeah, the apple didn’t fall far from that tree.

44 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:46:15pm

re: #41 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, that “spare the rod and spoil the child” bullshit, although it sounds more like Torquemada was in charge and the Chandlers got lots of free labor—if you didn’t kneel to it, you got the rack and more. They claim kids are suffering from all those things (they call them “morbidities”!), but where’s the proof? It looks like, from the “testimonials” that they get these young men (the photos look like mid-teens+) from word of mouth advertising. Is anyone on earth keeping tabs on that place? tierrablancaranch.com

And WTF? Literal translation of Tierra Blanca is “White Earth”. Wonder if that has special meaning…

That last thought also crossed my mind.

Supposedly they’ve been ‘under investigation’ since 2006. Really, the TV station KOB decided to look into the place after a kid was killed when the pickup truck he was riding in the back of crashed.

When the story about Tierra Blanca Ranch hit my desk, all I knew at the time was that a teenaged boy, Bruce, had died in a truck rollover on the ranch land. My News Director asked that I look into Tierra Blanca Ranch to see if there is anything more to the story…and I’m so glad I listened.

Within hours of taking the assignment, I had built case files with hundreds of pages of documents of allegations in police reports and state documents that showed a pattern of complaints alleging rampant abuse at Tierra Blanca Ranch. At least a dozen boys interviewed at different times by different investigators said they were forced into child slavery by tending the 30,000 acre ranch owned by Scott Chandler. They told stories of working outside for up to 15 hours a day in grueling conditions, sometimes in extreme temperatures. They said they were punished by excessive exercises, food deprivation, threats of castration, and brutal beatings. In a police report, one teen described being forced by a staff member to put rocks and sand in a sock and beat his friend. The boys also described what they called a “firewall.” When a teen is “firewalled,” he’s not allowed to talk to other people or be spoken to, which as you can imagine creates a very lonely existence.

It’s important that we question why a man who admits he and his staff have no professional training to work with at-risk kids is taking in dozens of teens with serious behavioral health issues. It’s also important that we question what our state agencies have done about these allegations.

[…]

45 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:46:17pm

Waitress picks up tab for National Guard soldiers working through government shutdown without pay

The government shutdown has left many with furloughed pay, but one Ruby Tuesday waitress decided to lend a helping hand to a pair of Nation Guard women that came into her restaurant.

As Sarah Hoidahl served the two soldiers at the Concord, N.H., Ruby Tuesday, they explained that because of the government shutdown, money was a little tight and they were forced to watch their expenses, reported Business Insider.

SNIP

As the meal came to an end and it came time to bring the tab, Hoidahl decided to brighten their days.

“I was kind of like, ‘I’m going to do a good deed today.’ And I wrote them a little note,” Hoidahl said Thursday.

Instead of a bill, the soldiers received a note that said, “Thanks to the government shutdown, the people like you that protect this country are not getting paid. However, I still am. Lunch is on me. Thank you for serving ladies! Have a good day!”

necn.com

46 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:46:45pm

re: #42 AlexRogan

Guess who’s the lawyer for the ranch in all of this?

Pete Domenici Jr., son of the former GOP senator from NM.

He was hired to try to shut down the investigation.

47 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:50:08pm

Tommy E. is unnervingly good. And the frustrating part is he makes it look so easy.

In other news concerning a not-as-gifted working musician (me), I got a call to fill in with the band playing the ‘Saturday Night Live’ after-party in NYC tonight. To ensure that I’m completely out of my comfort zone, I’ll be playing bass.

Potential upside: Katy Perry may show up. Potential downside: Bruce Willis may show up.

48 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:51:42pm

re: #6 Lidane

Because derp doesn’t stop, even for killer music:

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Greenwald’s melodramatic prose always make me chuckle

GOP dissident

Amash is a libertarian, the GOP doesn’t want a libertarian, they want a Republican.

[dudebro]SCANDAL!!1![/dudebro]

49 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:52:07pm

Heimbach has been on a downward spiral since graduating from Towson, in Maryland, earlier this year. He has begun to talk of “conniving Jews” and “Jewish supremacists” (a phrase popularized by former Klan leader David Duke, who Heimbach now describes as a personal hero). He quotes terrorist assassin David Lane as another hero, and wore a pistol while speaking to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a descendant of the racist White Citizens Councils that resisted school desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s. He has begun calling for revolution and advocating a fight against “Jewish elites” and others.

Ann Coulter’s buddies.

50 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:53:49pm
51 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:54:11pm

re: #49 Gus

Heimbach has been on a downward spiral since graduating from Towson, in Maryland, earlier this year. He has begun to talk of “conniving Jews” and “Jewish supremacists” (a phrase popularized by former Klan leader David Duke, who Heimbach now describes as a personal hero). He quotes terrorist assassin David Lane as another hero, and wore a pistol while speaking to the Council of Conservative Citizens, a descendant of the racist White Citizens Councils that resisted school desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s. He has begun calling for revolution and advocating a fight against “Jewish elites” and others.

Ann Coulter’s buddies.

And he’ll be speaking to the League of the South, where he can hang out with RS McCain and Daniel Larison.

52 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:55:10pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

He was hired to try to shut down the investigation.

No doubt.

53 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:55:13pm

re: #51 wrenchwench

And he’ll be speaking to the League of the South, where he can hang out with RS McCain and Daniel Larison.

League of the South Boots Neo-Nazi Matthew Heimbach

54 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:56:21pm

re: #50 Gus

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Fucking loser: Youtube Video

55 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:56:34pm


Heh. Dissident.

56 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:57:48pm

In other news. There will be pizza. So it is written.

57 thedopefishlives  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:59:21pm

re: #56 Gus

In other news. There will be pizza. So it is written.

Steak night in the fish household. And it was good.

58 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:59:27pm

re: #55 Gus

Quick question.

What, if any, crimes has Greenwald committed during his chicanery recently?

59 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:00:06pm

re: #58 ProTARDISLiberal

Quick question.

What, if any, crimes has Greenwald committed during his chicanery recently?

None that I know of.

60 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:00:24pm

re: #54 Justanotherhuman

Fucking loser: [Embedded content]

How is it that these lunatics have all come out of the woodwork in the United States over the last 12 years? They’ve always been there, I grant you that, but where is anyone to tell these people to sit down and STFU? Where is anyone to tell them they have no place whatsoever in the national conversation?

GAAAAAAHHH!!!!!

61 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:00:34pm

re: #55 Gus

At the end of July, Amash’s campaign had $164,000 cash on hand

Read more: politico.com

Think that maybe the GOP would like to get a republican in that district rather than a libertarian? A broke dick like Amash appears to be an easy target.

Glenn should organize a money bomb for his buddy Amash, looks like he’s gonna need it.

62 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:01:13pm

re: #56 Gus

In other news. There will be pizza. So it is written.

I made a sweet and sour chicken stir-fry. It was awesome.

63 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:01:42pm

re: #58 ProTARDISLiberal

Quick question.

What, if any, crimes has Greenwald committed during his chicanery recently?

Receiving stolen goods. At least that’s how I see it.

64 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:02:19pm

re: #53 Gus

League of the South Boots Neo-Nazi Matthew Heimbach

Wow. Too stinky for the stinkers.

Of course, the LOS is not made up of White Supremacists. They’re just segregationists. They want their own all-white lands. So much better than Nazis.

/

65 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:03:43pm

re: #56 Gus

In other news. There will be pizza. So it is written.

No pineapple, right?

66 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:04:22pm

re: #58 ProTARDISLiberal

Quick question.

What, if any, crimes has Greenwald committed during his chicanery recently?

Illegal possession of classified information, conspiracy

67 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:04:23pm

re: #57 thedopefishlives

Steak night in the fish household. And it was good.

Steak, eggs, and hashbrowns with a diluted bourbon deglaze on top. Fresh pineapple rings for dessert.

68 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:04:40pm

re: #65 makeitstop

No pineapple, right?

No pineapple. The only pineapple I ever consume is in the form of pineapple juice.

69 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:05:03pm

re: #54 Justanotherhuman

Fucking loser: [Embedded content]

He worked on Ron Paul’s presidential campaign.

70 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:05:05pm

re: #58 ProTARDISLiberal

Killing hyperbole.

71 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:05:45pm

re: #65 makeitstop

No pineapple, right?

I’m sorry, but pineapple just does not belong on pizza. Neither does spinach, even though I go semi-vegetarian (no meat, but plenty of cheese, mushrooms, peppers, onions, black olives).

72 miclaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:05:53pm

Charles - I need to thank you for featuring Tommy. Because of you I went to see him at the Park West in Chicago - what an amazing talent. THANK YOU!!

73 ObserverArt  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:07:18pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

He was hired to try to shut down the investigation.

Just standing up for some family values.

Which reminds me. What the hell is up with some political gathering being called the Values Voters Summit? More nice sounding GOP claptrap. More thinking we have more and better values than everyone else, especially of a religious nature. It’s the same BS that they elevate themselves with, like a humanists can’t possibly be moral because God.

Democrats, Independents, and others have no values!!! We know, because we can judge everyone. Well, sure that flies in the face of some basic foundations of Christianity, but it feels so good to know we are so good and God loves us more then you.

It makes me sick. The more someone tells me they are a do-gooder God botherer the more suspicious I am. Funny how that is. It sure isn’t Christian in my book. Is it in any? And if it is not, what are their real values after all?

74 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:08:23pm

Tommy does Hendrix:

Youtube Video

75 simoom  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:08:57pm

Heh:

I’m assuming this is a reference to immigration reform, though I thought that the House GOP had already definitively killed that because they were terrified of what would come out of Conference.

76 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:09:05pm

Pizza! That was quick.

77 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:09:21pm

re: #66 Kragar

I really want to see him prosecuted.

Mostly because he’s a smug little asshole, but also because he broke the law. I tend to be a bit of a statist, so this ticks me off in a very special way.

78 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:10:11pm

Iran arrests ‘network of homosexuals and satanists’ at birthday party
I wasn’t aware Iran updated its laws on homosexuality.

Until recently same-sex sodomy was punishable by death but a new amendment to the penal code, approved in 2012, has brought new changes. Under the new penal code, in effect, the person who played an active role will be flogged 100 times if the sex was consensual and he was not married, but the one who played a passive role will still be put to death regardless of his marriage status. Punishment for mosahegheh (lesbianism) is 100 lashes for all individuals involved, but it can lead to the death penalty if the act is repeated four times.

79 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:12:15pm
80 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:12:54pm

re: #75 simoom

Don’t do it Dems! I’d hate to have a broken Boehner!

81 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:13:33pm

re: #79 Gus

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Awesome! DudeBro fight!

82 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:14:21pm

re: #79 Gus

[Embedded content]

Who the hell do you root for in a fight between Assange and Greenwald?

83 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:15:05pm

re: #82 b.d.

Who the hell do you root for in a fight between Assange and Greenwald?

Wish them both luck?

84 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:17:31pm

re: #75 simoom

Heh:

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I’m assuming this is a reference to immigration reform, though I thought that the House GOP had already definitively killed that because they were terrified of what would come out of Conference.

Yeah, if they force Boehner to accept a less than friendly deal for the House, he might be rendered totally powerless!

Which, you know, is far worse than being the Tea Party’s bitch right now.

85 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:17:43pm

re: #79 Gus

*grabs popcorn*

86 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:17:54pm

re: #56 Gus

In other news. There will be pizza. So it is written.

So let it be done.

87 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:18:09pm

re: #82 b.d.

Who the hell do you root for in a fight between Assange and Greenwald?

I throw’em in the Thunderdome and pop some popcorn.

Two asshats enter, one asshat leaves!!

88 kirkspencer  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:18:38pm

re: #71 Justanotherhuman

I’m sorry, but pineapple just does not belong on pizza. Neither does spinach, even though I go semi-vegetarian (no meat, but plenty of cheese, mushrooms, peppers, onions, black olives).

Apology accepted, but pizza is personal. As such it can have any topping the consumer desires regardless of your (or my) distaste.

(The anchovy and sauerkraut pizza I watched being consumed is what brought me to this epiphany. It was that or go on a rampage against all PINO [Pizza in Name Only]s.)

89 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:21:28pm

re: #79 Gus

Ouch…

90 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:21:38pm

re: #65 makeitstop

No pineapple, right?

Pineapple can appear on a pizza if the only other topping is canadian bacon.

It’s in the bible somewhere, somewhere in the middle, I think.

91 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:07pm

re: #82 b.d.

Who the hell do you root for in a fight between Assange and Greenwald?

Pay-Per-View.

92 makeitstop  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:28pm

re: #74 Charles Johnson

Tommy does Hendrix:

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That one, I’ve seen. Re-casting stuff that you’d never think would work on acoustic guitar is second nature to him.

And it’s obvious that he has a lot of fun doing it.

93 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:33pm

re: #87 Targetpractice

I throw’em in the Thunderdome and pop some popcorn.

Two asshats enter, one asshat no one leaves!!

FTFY

94 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:43pm

Why would Snowden need a defense fund?

95 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:23:53pm

I should also note that something leaked from SFX Magazine regarding the 50th Anniversary.

The Day of the Doctor New Pics

From this, we have a few conclusions:

At least 2 TARDISes do appear (10th’s and 11th’s)
The Hurt Doctor will be at least partially piloting the 11ths.
Clara and Kate meet

I will add one prediction of my own. Rose and Clara arguing. Rose tends to be very selfish, and very jealous. We saw this with the way she talked to Sarah Jane and Martha Jones.

However, along with that Rose is also not all that bright. I did like Rose initially, but as I watched more of the series, I realized she wasn’t a great companion. So, in a battle of wits, we are talking about the equivalent of a PT Boat vs. the USS Pittsburgh.

96 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:24:04pm

Jim Bob Duggar Compares Current State of US to Nazi Germany, Holocaust

Youtube Video

97 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:26:22pm

What a fecking idiot.

98 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:31:06pm

I don’t want to say I am musically illiterate, but I found this very educational.

Youtube Video

99 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:32:05pm
100 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:33:39pm

re: #88 kirkspencer

Apology accepted, but pizza is personal. As such it can have any topping the consumer desires regardless of your (or my) distaste.

(The anchovy and sauerkraut pizza I watched being consumed is what brought me to this epiphany. It was that or go on a rampage against all PINO [Pizza in Name Only]s.)

Yes, well I was giving an opinion and preference…but I remember anchovies being on pizza many, many years ago. Sauerkraut? Sacrilege. : )

101 missliberties  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:33:43pm

re: #97 Gus

Not a fecking idiot, a focking idiot. Where are you principles?!11!! How can we have Utopian revolution when you don’t even understand the Hitlers surrounding you.

102 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:33:55pm

re: #75 simoom

I’m assuming this is a reference to immigration reform, though I thought that the House GOP had already definitively killed that because they were terrified of what would come out of Conference.

If the Dems hold steady and manage to break Boehner’s gavel, proving that he’s lost control of the House to the teabaggers (which he demonstrably has), the House won’t even be able to pass a non-binding resolution saying the sky is blue.

103 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:40:58pm

Two little Hitlers will fight it out until
One little Hitler does the other one’s will

Youtube Video

104 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:43:00pm

That was lesson two above (at #98). Here’s lesson one:

Youtube Video

105 ObserverArt  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:43:08pm

re: #98 wrenchwench

I don’t want to say I am musically illiterate, but I found this very educational.

[Embedded content]

That was fun. I’m self taught…started after setting up the kit for a drummer in a band I helped roadie and do sound support just after high school. So yes, learn to play.

I’m still learning to play guitar better too and seeing Emmanuel reminds me of how much room there is to expand yet. Also there can never be enough practice.

106 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:43:49pm

Douthat is bleating again:


He starts with a faulty premise (that there are more damaging policies than the GOP’s shutdown) and proceeds with an argument that only makes sense if you assume that POTUS was going to cave to the Republicans.

This would be hilarious if the situation wasn’t so dire.

107 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:48:20pm

re: #106 Lidane

“…it may be that John Boehner chose a kind of rational irrationality these last two weeks — accepting the Kurtzian shutdown “strategy” in order to demonstrate its senselessness and persuade his members to behave slightly more sensibly in the future.”

Oh, yeah, sure.

108 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:49:14pm

re: #106 Lidane

Douthat is bleating again:

[Embedded content]


He starts with a faulty premise (that there are more damaging policies than the GOP’s shutdown) and proceeds with an argument that only makes sense if you assume that POTUS was going to cave to the Republicans.

This would be hilarious if the situation wasn’t so dire.

Douchehat.

109 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:49:41pm

Also, in playing Skyrim, I now have 1.02 million Gold.

How do I spend that much?

110 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:51:33pm

re: #109 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, in playing Skyrim, I now have 1.02 million Gold.

How do I spend that much?

Knee repair surgeries for NPCs?

111 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:52:32pm

re: #109 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, in playing Skyrim, I now have 1.02 million Gold.

How do I spend that much?

carpal tunnel syndrome therapy?

112 simoom  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:52:53pm
113 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:53:52pm

re: #84 Targetpractice

Yeah, if they force Boehner to accept a less than friendly deal for the House, he might be rendered totally powerless!

Which, you know, is far worse than being the Tea Party’s bitch right now.

All the talk of Boehner losing his Speakership made me want to research how that could be accomplished.

CHANG: Ultimately, Cannon’s motion never passed. Under today’s House rules, any member can propose a resolution to remove the speaker, and that proposal can get to the floor pretty quickly. All it needs to pass is a simple majority. But that’s where things get complicated. The other party has a large block of votes too, and how they’ll vote is unpredictable. In any event, speakers under fire haven’t waited for that to happen. Usually they resign first, like Jim Wright in 1989, when he was under an ethics investigation over speaking fees, or Newt Gingrich in 1998. After getting blamed for a government shutdown and the loss of Republican seats in the House, Gingrich knew his influence was waning. He decided he neither wanted to be speaker nor a rank-and-file member of Congress.

NEWT GINGRICH: And I think there comes a time when you’ve got to step out and let a new team take over, let a new team try to do the best they can.

CHANG: But what would it take for Boehner to actually resign? Ron Peters of the University of Oklahoma says it would likely be some formal action - not on the floor but within the House Republican caucus.

RON PETERS: And they would proceed by a motion of no confidence. And if that were to carry by a majority of Republicans, then Speaker Boehner would in all likelihood choose to resign the speakership.

Even though the Tea Party caucus isn’t quite a majority of the R’s in the House, they’re by far the most vocal. So it could make sense that Boehner is appeasing them because he’s afraid of losing his office, the recent 180 by the Chamber of Commerce, business and Wall Street leaders could have caught him off guard too. He thought going in that he had their support since they created the Tea Party golem, then they pulled the rug out once they realized their insane creation was actually eager for a default.

Anyway, point is that now Boehner really has painted himself into a corner. The GOP Civil War is heating up rapidly and it won’t be long before it spills over openly onto the House floor. The moderates are less likely to initiate a leadership challenge, especially because they’ve acted like bitchy, grumpy lemmings throughout this crisis so far - willing to complain mightily but otherwise marching in lockstep to their doom.

Ideally the moderates would align themselves with the Democrats in the House and elect either a bluedog (if they exist anymore) or more likely a suburban business conservative like Dave Reichert. This won’t happen because as a rule Republicans still hate Democrats more than they love their country. The problem is that kind of move would wither whatever grass roots funding they have left, and with the business conservatives realizing their own best interests lie elsewhere the GOP is going to need every dollar they can get for Fall 2014.

114 bratwurst  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:54:32pm
115 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:54:33pm

Greetings from Las Vegas. Yes, there are six pieces of bacon garnishing that bourbon-mary, as well as two slices of salami, about a pound of cross-cut cheese fries, and five or six pieces of beef jerkey. And an olive.

Image: 1394189_10151936369273024_859944077_n.jpg

Make that two olives.

116 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:55:35pm

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

You’re a regular comedian, aren’t you?

I’m investing 500 gold in every merchant I can. But that will barely dent the crap ton of money.

Right now, I am trying to master a number of trees, so am doing the thing where I make a skill legendary to start over on them. The End mastered skills I want are:

Destruction (Done)
Restoration
Enchanting (Done)
Smithing (Done)
One Handed
Archery
Light Armor
Sneak
Lockpicking (Done)

117 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:56:51pm

Imagine the infrastructure in the US breaking down completely. This is what the TP is trying to do politically.

U.S. power outage shuts down food stamp program in 17 states

reuters.com

Yesterday, when Charter did an upgrade in this area, it knocked us off the internet, and did something to our router that took hours to figure out and fix (Charter is incredibly unhelpful except in very routine, stupid stuff). We didn’t get the Xbox in the LR fixed until this am.

118 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:57:32pm

re: #109 ProTARDISLiberal

Had you seen this Page? I’d wanted to make sure you did, as I know you’re a Dr. Who fan.

119 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:58:29pm

Later, lizards.

120 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:58:37pm

re: #115 darthstar

You’re going to need some bread.

121 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:00:01pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Yep, I had seen that.

The real treat here is Web of Fear, which is the serial with the first appearance of the Brigadier.

He was a staple of Classic Who, and it looks like Moffat is trying to do the same, as the Brigadier had a daughter. Who is now the head of UNIT. Meaning she may also be a Brigadier.

122 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:00:33pm

re: #115 darthstar

Greetings from Las Vegas. Yes, there are six pieces of bacon garnishing that bourbon-mary, as well as two slices of salami, about a pound of cross-cut cheese fries, and five or six pieces of beef jerkey. And an olive.

Image: 1394189_10151936369273024_859944077_n.jpg

Make that two olives.

What the hell? Is that one pig? //

123 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:02:27pm

re: #115 darthstar

Greetings from Las Vegas. Yes, there are six pieces of bacon garnishing that bourbon-mary, as well as two slices of salami, about a pound of cross-cut cheese fries, and five or six pieces of beef jerkey. And an olive.

Image: 1394189_10151936369273024_859944077_n.jpg

Elvis approves

124 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:02:33pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

A cat who’s unclear on the concept.

125 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:03:28pm

So get this. The emoprogs in general and Greenwald have been ignoring Malala because she makes them feel all discombobulated about terrorism, the Taliban and stuff. Finally, she meets with the POTUS and in part of her discussion she mentions that she thinks drones strikes feed more terrorism. Welp, they’ve finally discovered Malala for their own drones, drones, drones narrative.

126 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:05:33pm

re: #119 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

Image: forgothow.jpg

127 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:07:00pm

You remember those corny anti-drug cartoon episodes from the 1980’s? Like when GI Joe and Cobra would unite in a one off fight against some drug baron, because drugs were just beyond the pale.

It’s too bad that the moderates in the GOP doesn’t realize that their party has been infested by drug dealers.

Because I’d pay to see this go down in the House:

Youtube Video

128 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:07:14pm

OH HAI LIZARDS

I have returned from the weekly 25 hours Without Internet!

What is new in the world of Detp? Truckers tantrum still going on or have they all gone home?

129 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:08:04pm

re: #124 Charles Johnson

I think there might be an issue with the image library. When I hit the Insert link for the image I linked in #126, it repeated the HTML code so many times over that it hit the comment character limit.

130 BeenHereAwhile  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:08:08pm

re: #115 darthstar

Greetings from Las Vegas. Yes, there are six pieces of bacon garnishing that bourbon-mary, as well as two slices of salami, about a pound of cross-cut cheese fries, and five or six pieces of beef jerkey. And an olive.

Image: 1394189_10151936369273024_859944077_n.jpg

Make that two olives.

‘The Bloody Mary I had for breakfast was so good I had another for desert.’

131 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:09:10pm

re: #113 goddamnedfrank

All the talk of Boehner losing his Speakership made me want to research how that could be accomplished.

Even though the Tea Party caucus isn’t quite a majority of the R’s in the House, they’re by far the most vocal. So it could make sense that Boehner is appeasing them because he’s afraid of losing his office, the recent 180 by the Chamber of Commerce, business and Wall Street leaders could have caught him off guard too. He thought going in that he had their support since they created the Tea Party golem, then they pulled the rug out once they realized their insane creation was actually eager for a default.

Anyway, point is that now Boehner really has painted himself into a corner. The GOP Civil War is heating up rapidly and it won’t be long before it spills over openly onto the House floor. The moderates are less likely to initiate a leadership challenge, especially because they’ve acted like bitchy, grumpy lemmings throughout this crisis so far - willing to complain mightily but otherwise marching in lockstep to their doom.

Ideally the moderates would align themselves with the Democrats in the House and elect either a bluedog (if they exist anymore) or more likely a suburban business conservative like Dave Reichert. This won’t happen because as a rule Republicans still hate Democrats more than they love their country. The problem is that kind of move would wither whatever grass roots funding they have left, and with the business conservatives realizing their own best interests lie elsewhere the GOP is going to need every dollar they can get for Fall 2014.

Way it seems right now, a very likely scenario that would play out is that the GOP would effectively fracture, making it impossible to pass anything in the House as Boehner would be unable to get the majority of the party to agree to anything, but still feel himself bound by the “Hastert Rule” to prevent any bill with significant Dem support from reaching the floor.

In that scenario, the Democrats might be able to convince enough “moderate” Republicans that Boehner can no longer control his caucus and new leadership is needed. They would vote to consider the Speaker’s position to be vacant, at which point Democrats could either agree to a moderate Republican who’d ditch the “Hastert Rule” and pursue a more centrist strategy.

Under such a situation, the Tea Party would be rendered powerless. They don’t command enough votes to do more than vote in protest to any bill that had bipartisan support in the House. They would vow retribution, but that’s a case of diminishing returns in the present environment, with fratricide in the party ranks allowing Democrats to make gains in purple districts.

132 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:09:29pm

re: #129 Lidane

I think there might be an issue with the image library. When I hit the Insert link for the image I linked in #126, it repeated the HTML code so many times over that it hit the comment character limit.

Same thing happened to me on Friday.

133 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:10:02pm

Image: BTHmPFiIYAEHng-.jpg

134 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:10:58pm

Image: BTHmPFiIYAEHng-.jpg

135 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:12:51pm

re: #121 ProTARDISLiberal

Yep, I had seen that.

The real treat here is Web of Fear, which is the serial with the first appearance of the Brigadier.

He was a staple of Classic Who, and it looks like Moffat is trying to do the same, as the Brigadier had a daughter. Who is now the head of UNIT. Meaning she may also be a Brigadier.

What kind of brigade? Daleks, Cybermen, Emoprogs?

136 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:13:04pm

Hmm, not seeing the problem. But I will investigate further.

137 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:13:37pm

re: #125 Gus

So get this. The emoprogs in general and Greenwald have been ignoring Malala because she makes them feel all discombobulated about terrorism, the Taliban and stuff. Finally, she meets with the POTUS and in part of her discussion she mentions that she thinks drones strikes feed more terrorism. Welp, they’ve finally discovered Malala for their own drones, drones, drones narrative.

Do you have a link you can share?

138 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:14:03pm

re: #133 Charles Johnson

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Whenever I’m at work for 12+ hours I start seeing double!!

139 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:15:22pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Do you have a link you can share?

This is just for Glennzilla.

140 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:15:23pm

re: #137 Dark_Falcon

Do you have a link you can share?

chain or sausage?

141 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:18:48pm

re: #140 sattv4u2

chain or sausage?

SMACK!

142 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:19:09pm

Any idea of the source of these quotes (mis)attributed to Frederick Douglass?

“Once you learn to read, you will be forever free.

&

“It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.”

Your help is greatly appreciated.

143 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:19:46pm

re: #141 Dark_Falcon

SMACK!

Hey. Throw a hanging curve ball, I’m going yard !

144 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:19:52pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Image: BTHmPFiIYAEHng-.jpg

defintely worth posting twice.

145 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:20:48pm

Got to listen to a hour or so of Fox News Radio this afternoon. You know the people of this country don’t want Obamacare and the Democrats just need to come to grips with that.

oy

146 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:21:08pm

I just checked #T2SDA, still posting fake photos.

147 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:22:12pm

re: #145 FemNaziBitch

Got to listen to a hour or so of Fox News Radio this afternoon. You know the people of this country don’t want Obamacare and the Democrats just need to come to grips with that.

President Romney agrees.

148 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:23:39pm
149 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:27:16pm

re: #148 Lidane

Is that a younger, marginally less orange boehner in the background?

150 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:27:26pm

Greenwald’s link is a somewhat hostile piece from McClachty DC:

Malala Yousafzai tells Obama drones are ‘fueling terrorism’

In a statement, the White House says the United States “joins with the Pakistani people and so many around the world to celebrate Malala’s courage and her determination to promote the right of all girls to attend school and realize their dreams.”

In a statement released after the meeting, Malala said she was honored to meet with Obama, but that she told him she’s worried about the effect of U.S. drone strikes. (The White House statement didn’t mention that part.)

“I thanked President Obama for the United States’ work in supporting education in Pakistan and Afghanistan and for Syrian refugees,” she said in the statement. “I also expressed my concerns that drone attacks are fueling terrorism. Innocent victims are killed in these acts, and they lead to resentment among the Pakistani people. If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact.”

No Malala, I’m sorry but such a refocus won’t have a big impact. Your country’s government is just too corrupt, such that a big increase in education aid will for the most part be stolen by corrupt officials. That corruption also makes education aid unpopular in the US, because it is seldom seen to be effectual.

151 ObserverArt  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:27:52pm

Well look at that…a younger John Boehner standing there with Newt.

152 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:28:38pm

Did you know that Megan Kelley’s rating have blown Rachel Maddow out of the water?

Did you care?

153 ObserverArt  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:29:14pm

re: #149 Interesting Times

Is that a younger, marginally less orange boehner in the background?

It sure am. Just noticed it too. I think he won his seat back in 1990. So he would have been around doing the Contract on ‘Merica thing.

154 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:29:18pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Greenwald’s link is a somewhat hostile piece from McClachty DC:

Malala Yousafzai tells Obama drones are ‘fueling terrorism’

No Malala, I’m sorry but such a refocus won’t have a big impact. Your country’s government is just too corrupt, such that a big increase in education aid will for the most part be stolen by corrupt officials. That corruption also makes education aid unpopular in the US, because it is seldom seen to be effectual.

Just wait until she learns that rendition is back on the menu.

155 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:35:50pm

re: #154 Killgore Trout

Just wait until she learns that rendition is back on the menu.

Really, do you really think that making a martyr of her is at the top of the list for the Whackos?

156 simoom  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:36:51pm

Really misleading/dishonest tweet from BuzzFeed’s McKay Coppins:


The WaPo article isn’t about “Breaking the Republicans” and isn’t about a new strategy added today, it’s about the difference between the Dem’s goal in this standoff (no unilateral concessions in exchange for not shutting down the gov’t or defaulting) vs prior impending crisis negotiations:

President Obama and congressional Democratic leaders, in their ongoing showdown with Republicans, now have an additional goal beyond protecting the health-care law, reopening the government and preventing the first-ever default on the nation’s debt.

They are gambling that if they can hang together and remain tough to the end, they stand a chance to break a dangerous cycle that has taken hold in Washington — one of legislating through brinkmanship, which has taken the government and the financial system to the edge of disaster at least four times over the past three years.

“This not just about Barack Obama. This is about the next president, whoever and whatever party it might be,” Obama told Democratic senators at a White House meeting on Thursday, according to Senate majority whip Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.).

So far, the Democrats’ strategy of refusing to meet Republican demands — which is not without risk — appears to be working.

The Obama quote is the same thing he’s been saying throughout this manufactured crisis and even long before. It’s not a “new goal to their shutdown strategy late in the game.”

157 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:38:10pm

re: #156 simoom

GOP needs help breaking themselves?

158 urbanmeemaw  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:39:32pm

re: #2 wrenchwench

I was thinking the same thing! It’s like listening to 2 guitarists. Masterful rendition. I’ve always loved Classical Gas.

159 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:39:50pm

Charles, did you get my twitter message? I am once again banished to the LGF gulag, because I assume you’re blocking China’s IP addresses. Can you make a tiny exception in my case? Same IP address as last week.

Thanks!

160 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:41:12pm

re: #150 Dark_Falcon

Pakistan’s condition is terminal. What should be done is a pursuit of an end to the Cold War with Iran. That will be we can pull out of the Persian Gulf. In addition, Once we leave Afghanistan, cut Pakistan’s aid. It is doing no good, they have been supporting the Taliban now for probably something like 20 years, and I find it hard to believe that the ISI, with all its links to these guys, that they had no foggy clue about the 9/11 plot.

Unfortunately, that means Afghanistan will have to suffer. Afghanistan won’t improve until Pakistan is weaker and out of the picture. The only thing we can do for the Afghanis is offer some sort of scheme for people to leave like what we did in Vietnam. Parts of the American West and the Appalachians are similar to Afghanistan (Yes, there are some very green areas in Afghanistan).

Right now, the US should prepare for the eventual disintegration of Pakistan. The Balochs already want to leave as a result of brutalization of them by both the Pakistani Government, and their Taliban proxies.

161 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:41:55pm

re: #160 ProTARDISLiberal

Pakistan’s condition is terminal. What should be done is a pursuit of an end to the Cold War with Iran. That will be we can pull out of the Persian Gulf. In addition, Once we leave Afghanistan, cut Pakistan’s aid. It is doing no good, they have been supporting the Taliban now for probably something like 20 years, and I find it hard to believe that the ISI, with all its links to these guys, that they had no foggy clue about the 9/11 plot.

Unfortunately, that means Afghanistan will have to suffer. Afghanistan won’t improve until Pakistan is weaker and out of the picture. The only thing we can do for the Afghanis is offer some sort of scheme for people to leave like what we did in Vietnam. Parts of the American West and the Appalachians are similar to Afghanistan (Yes, there are some very green areas in Afghanistan).

Right now, the US should prepare for the eventual disintegration of Pakistan. The Balochs already want to leave as a result of brutalization of them by both the Pakistani Government, and their Taliban proxies.

Where is China in all this? Somehow, I think they’d want the land.

162 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:42:08pm

re: #155 FemNaziBitch

Really, do you really think that making a martyr of her is at the top of the list for the Whackos?

Not sure if I understand your question. Does the Taliban really want to kill her? Sure. They do have lots of people they want to kill, she might be in the top 20. The Taliban isn’t terribly concerned with their public image in the West.

163 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:43:54pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Not sure if I understand your question. Does the Taliban really want to kill her? Sure. They do have lots of people they want to kill, she might be in the top 20. The Taliban isn’t terribly concerned with their public image in the West.

you talked about “rendition being back on the menu”. Perhaps I misunderstood. Do you really think the West would hand her over to Pakistan for any reason?

164 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:44:41pm

re: #160 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, this would be history repeating itself. How much money and materiels did we give Pakistan to disperse during the Soviet War in Afghanistan? And most of it ended up directed to radicals.

Say we do give Pakistan aid money for education. They would be likely give it to the radical Madrassas, given historical patterns.

165 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:46:35pm

bbl

166 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:47:21pm

Loove Classical Gas!

167 urbanmeemaw  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:48:00pm

re: #82 b.d.

Satan?

168 PT Barnum  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:48:35pm

re: #166 prairiefire

Loove Classical Gas!

My wife’s chili comes to mind….

169 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:49:45pm

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Not sure if I understand your question. Does the Taliban really want to kill her? Sure. They do have lots of people they want to kill, she might be in the top 20. The Taliban isn’t terribly concerned with their public image in the West.

Now that she’s had face time with the POTUS, probably in the top 5 now!

170 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:49:46pm

re: #163 FemNaziBitch

you talked about “rendition being back on the menu”. Perhaps I misunderstood. Do you really think the West would hand her over to Pakistan for any reason?

Ah, I see. She was complaining about drone strikes but recently we are opting to capture terror suspects for interrogation and trials. That’s not going to be much more popular in Pakistan than drone strikes. No, we aren’t going to capture her and send her to Pakistan but she does want to go back on her own. I really hope she doesn’t.

171 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:51:20pm

re: #161 FemNaziBitch

China has its own issues. Namely, its in a worse demographic spot than the Republicans right now.

An upside down population pyramid and a massive imbalance between the genders, skewing towards males, which limits it’s future growth for 1-2 generations. This is also compounded by the fact that minorities are allowed to have more children than the Han, so the Uyghurs and Tibetans (among a few others), are getting relatively stronger.

Also, their economy continues to rely on exports, which is bad considering that with a soon to occur scarcity of oil. Which is also compounded by environmental issues in the nation that is leading to more and more food imports and issues regarding chronic illness. And to this a habit of pissing off its neighbors their imperialism, and China is heading to a perfect storm.

172 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:51:22pm

re: #169 sattv4u2

Now that she’s had face time with the POTUS, probably in the top 5 now!

You might be right. I think the close call with the Nobel prize (which she should have won) bumped her up on the list too.

173 RealityBasedSteve  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:51:52pm

wow… I think he did one or two little things that aren’t in my “Mel Bays Guitar Book 1”

RBS

174 sattv4u2  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:53:57pm

re: #172 Killgore Trout

You might be right. I think the close call with the Nobel prize (which she should have won) bumped her up on the list too.

Yup ,, that too

Sadly, what a public relations ‘coup” that would be for the Taliban

Like you, I hope she continues her work here instead of going back. But I don’t blame her for wanting to be there to try to change things

175 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:55:02pm
176 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:55:44pm

re: #99 jaunte

To me it’s not just the elevator. Indeed, I think the elevator not even the real problem.

The neighborhood in which Romney’s property situates is not tightly crowded but the lots are not huge either. Which means that Romney will have to kill off most of the living things on that property to build his mini-mansion in seaside La Jolla.

This is classic SoCal real-estate-think.

Bigger is always better.

Green things are bad, cement is good.

Old is bad, new is good.

Rain is evil, best to send it all down the sewer.

Automobiles are life, thus we design our dwellings as automobile dwellings.

And so forth.

177 PT Barnum  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:56:26pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Idiotocracy was a documentary

178 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:56:52pm

Malala’s opinion is not like mine but I respect her opinion and would be glad to share it.

179 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 6:58:42pm

re: #175 Kragar

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Poe’s law personified.

180 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:00:03pm
181 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:00:18pm

re: #175 Kragar

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What part of the bible is that out of? Planet Reagan? The divorced, tax raising, deficit spending, cut and running, Alzheimer’s president? That Planet Reagan?

182 Skip Intro  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:01:57pm

re: #175 Kragar

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I hope Planet Reagan is in another universe.

183 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:02:26pm

re: #159 wheat-dogghazi

Charles, did you get my twitter message? I am once again banished to the LGF gulag, because I assume you’re blocking China’s IP addresses. Can you make a tiny exception in my case? Same IP address as last week.

Thanks!

From this side it looks like the exception for your IP should be in place. The block may be on your side.

184 simoom  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:07:59pm
185 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:10:54pm

I love that the party of personal and fiscal responsibility has decided to fight the battle not to pay ones bills and to make sure thousands of Americans can’t pay theirs either.

186 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:10:57pm

re: #184 simoom

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Graham pulls this stunt all of the time. He pulled it on Obama’s Syria Congressional push too, saying it didn’t go far enough.

Bomb throwing purity troll.

187 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:11:52pm

Am I the only one that totally digs this new era in baseball where playoff games(even those involving teams from the Al East) are fast paced affairs dominated by pitching?

It is so much more delightful to watch a 2 hour and 30 minute 1-0 ballgame than one that lasts 5 and a half hours and ends 9-8.

By the way go Cards.

188 Skip Intro  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:13:10pm

re: #184 simoom

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Huckleberry Closetcase is frustrated? Maybe a day at the Spa and a bikini wax would help.

189 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:13:17pm

re: #187 subterraneanhomesickalien

Am I the only one that totally digs this new era in baseball where playoff games(even those involving teams from the Al East) are fast paced affairs dominated by pitching?

It is so much more delightful to watch a 2 hour and 30 minute 1-0 ballgame than one that lasts 5 and a half hours and ends 9-8.

By the way go Cards.

I support the idea of making it one pitch per batter, if they miss, they’re out. We can get the whole thing done in an hour.

190 Skip Intro  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:15:47pm

re: #187 subterraneanhomesickalien

Am I the only one that totally digs this new era in baseball where playoff games(even those involving teams from the Al East) are fast paced affairs dominated by pitching?

It is so much more delightful to watch a 2 hour and 30 minute 1-0 ballgame than one that lasts 5 and a half hours and ends 9-8.

By the way go Cards.

I’d love to watch a 2.5 hour game. Are there such things?

When you have the manager changing pitchers for a single hitter, like STL, time seems to go backwards.

191 GlutenFreeJesus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:15:51pm

I like this live version of Tommy playing Classical Gas as well.

Youtube Video

192 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:18:52pm

Prudence wants the President to die. “A girl can dream!”

193 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:19:47pm

This is curious
Arkansas man charged in connection with power grid sabotage

In the substation fire, the suspected arsonist left behind a message: “You should have expected U.S.” was inscribed on a control panel, the bureau reported.

I thought that phrase sounded familiar. If it is Anon it would certainly be a new tactic for them.

194 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:28:42pm
195 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:31:22pm
Studios Are Fighting Over Glenn Greenwald’s Snowden Book

Further complexities involved the structure of any proposed deal. Mr. Greenwald is selling the rights to his book and may include his own life rights. But his journalistic collaborator, Laura Poitras, and Mr. Snowden have not put their own life rights for sale, according to the people briefed on the film. That leaves potential buyers to rely on legal precepts of fair use in portraying them, or on their assurances that they will not seek to interfere with a movie.

theatlanticwire.com

The Glenn Greenwald story with cameo appearance of Edward Snowden.

196 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:32:26pm

BWAHAHA! Pete Santilli stole the wingnut truckers money!

197 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:33:59pm

re: #196 Vicious Babushka

No one could have preditcted, etc.

198 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:34:34pm

re: #187 subterraneanhomesickalien

Well, for me that would be 3 hours less pain…

Football - Arsenal or Green Bay - for me.

199 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:40:23pm
200 Gus  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:41:22pm

re: #199 Vicious Babushka

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The link says wapo… derp.

Commie.

201 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:41:23pm

Why are these people still eating up headline space? Is this someone’s PR project?

Ann Romney serves up candor in her new cookbook

Two presidential campaigns and 40 years of marriage and child-rearing behind her, Ann Romney finds herself in a surprising place: atop the bestseller lists with her own agenda in first position.

Romney’s new cookbook, “The Romney Family Table,” started as an effort to stitch together family recipes. But at a time when her husband Mitt’s loss in the 2012 campaign was still raw, she began writing and “it just flowed out.” Critics have mocked the book as a study in domestic perfection served on Oscar de la Renta tableware, but Romney said she wanted to show that their life “wasn’t always perfect” and that raising five boys could be more than a little frustrating.

Demand for the book — with its homespun recipes for Mitt’s Meat Loaf Cakes and Banana Trash Pudding — may be partly fueled by curiosity: The book offers a far more intimate portrait of the family’s life than Mitt Romney’s consultants allowed last year. There are plenty of pictures showing Romney’s buttoned-down husband with his perfect coif a mess.

[…]

202 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:42:48pm
203 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:44:08pm

re: #171 ProTARDISLiberal

China has its own issues. Namely, its in a worse demographic spot than the Republicans right now.

An upside down population pyramid and a massive imbalance between the genders, skewing towards males, which limits it’s future growth for 1-2 generations. This is also compounded by the fact that minorities are allowed to have more children than the Han, so the Uyghurs and Tibetans (among a few others), are getting relatively stronger.

Also, their economy continues to rely on exports, which is bad considering that with a soon to occur scarcity of oil. Which is also compounded by environmental issues in the nation that is leading to more and more food imports and issues regarding chronic illness. And to this a habit of pissing off its neighbors their imperialism, and China is heading to a perfect storm.

I don’t know. The dragon thinks long-term and is not adverse to killing it’s own to accomplish it’s goals for the whole.

204 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:46:28pm

re: #193 Killgore Trout

That is out and out terrorism.

205 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:47:32pm

BWAHAHAA

206 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:47:34pm

re: #180 Gus

“If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact.” (3/3) — Malala

People have been attempting that as far back as I remember studying such things. Usually viewed as a women’s issue …or one of those weeney men ideas.

207 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:48:18pm

re: #196 Vicious Babushka

re: #197 Lidane

Sounds like this Pete Santilli fellow just made himself 500K richer. Damn, I got to find a way to get in on the wingnut money machine!!

208 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:48:50pm

re: #201 freetoken

Why are these people still eating up headline space? Is this someone’s PR project?

Ann Romney serves up candor in her new cookbook

Martha Stewart has that marketshare.

209 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:49:07pm

re: #205 Vicious Babushka

Hahahahahahahahahaha.

But it’s a 3 day event!!1! Don’t give up yet!!1!

210 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:49:23pm

re: #208 FemNaziBitch

Martha Stewart has that marketshare.

Martha has nothing to fear from Ann.

211 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:49:58pm

re: #210 freetoken

Martha has nothing to fear from Ann.

I don’t think anyone has anything to fear from Ann. Not even her husband. Which is a sad state of affairs, IMHO.

212 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:50:49pm

re: #198 William Barnett-Lewis

Well, for me that would be 3 hours less pain…

Football - Arsenal or Green Bay - for me.

I don’t care which you watch as long as the Packers lose. >:D

213 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:51:31pm

re: #203 FemNaziBitch

If it was thinking long term, it wouldn’t be poisoning its land beyond use.

If it was planning ahead, it would not have an inverted population pyramid.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not have put itself in a situation where minorities are now gaining strength while continuing hostilities against them.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not be making many, many neighbors hostile to them at the same time. Even Bangladesh trusts the US more than it trusts China, and Bangladesh is currently a client state, to a point.

Everyone says China is playing a long game. But, based off of these points, I must disagree.

214 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:53:02pm
215 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:54:40pm

re: #206 FemNaziBitch

People have been attempting that as far back as I remember studying such things. Usually viewed as a women’s issue …or one of those weeney men ideas.

Well, in Pakistan its a corruption issue. And not much will be doable so long as Pakistan remain extremely corrupt. The problem is that the few people whom the corruption benefits are the military and political elites of Pakistan, and they will use extreme means to keep their gravy train going.

216 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:56:05pm

re: #214 Vicious Babushka

I haz a sad that I had to check @atchka’s profile before I could determine that was a joke :/

217 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:56:32pm

re: #213 ProTARDISLiberal

If it was thinking long term, it wouldn’t be poisoning its land beyond use.

If it was planning ahead, it would not have an inverted population pyramid.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not have put itself in a situation where minorities are now gaining strength while continuing hostilities against them.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not be making many, many neighbors hostile to them at the same time. Even Bangladesh trusts the US more than it trusts China, and Bangladesh is currently a client state, to a point.

Everyone says China is playing a long game. But, based off of these points, I must dia

Yeah, I think there are more points.

The next 20 years or so will be interesting . .

218 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:56:55pm

bbl again

219 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:57:12pm

re: #213 ProTARDISLiberal

If it was thinking long term, it wouldn’t be poisoning its land beyond use.

If it was planning ahead, it would not have an inverted population pyramid.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not have put itself in a situation where minorities are now gaining strength while continuing hostilities against them.

If it was thinking ahead, it would not be making many, many neighbors hostile to them at the same time. Even Bangladesh trusts the US more than it trusts China, and Bangladesh is currently a client state, to a point.

Everyone says China is playing a long game. But, based off of these points, I must disagree.

Industrialization is planning ahead, to a degree. The problem for China is that their government is more corrupt than was the US during the Gilded Age, and with far less public participation.

220 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:57:17pm

re: #215 Dark_Falcon

I would argue it isn’t corruption. The government likes the Taliban. They support them by taking our money we give them and stabbing us in the back.

I should also note that while Bengalis trust us more than China, they largely trust India more than they trust us.

Which is okay. India saved them from our client state, Pakistan.

Which loops us all the way around.

221 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:00:26pm
222 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:01:15pm
223 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:01:49pm
224 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:02:06pm

re: #212 Dark_Falcon

I don’t care which you watch as long as the Packers lose. >:D

Meh, you have no worries this season. Weak teams, the arm will win. Real teams, even Rodgers won’t be enough. Hell, the way the Browns have been playing, they’ll beat the Packers this year.

225 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:02:56pm

re: #223 jaunte

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Certain “Christians” should be more intellectually honest about what they really are: LaVeyan Satanists.

226 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:03:06pm

re: #222 Lidane

Was at grocery store tonight and they had up a sign that said EBT was not working. I wondered if the shutdown had furloughed some IS worker who would have caught the problem.

227 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:03:22pm
228 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:04:25pm

re: #227 Lidane

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Just borrow money from your parents.

229 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:04:46pm

re: #217 FemNaziBitch

The US will go through crap. By the 2020’s, I would expect an American version of the Troubles that occurred in the UK in the latter half of the last century.

China’s economy, however, will eventually stop expanding at the current 7-8% a year. It is simply impossible to keep that up. And it is what keeping China peaceful internally. I expect a civil war by the 2030’s-2040’s.

Once we pull out of Afghanistan, I think there will be heavy public opposition in the US to give Pakistan anymore aid. I do expect Pakistan to pull apart in the next half a century, starting with Balochistan.

I do see a bright spot though. Khameini is 74. From the point of view of an actuary, he’s coming close to the end. Not only that, by the Millenials are a disproportionate amount of Iran’s Population. I expect a rapprochement between the US and Iran within a few decades.

230 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:05:20pm

re: #223 jaunte

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James 2:14-26 - “What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it?”

231 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:05:40pm

re: #227 Lidane

Have we always had such an asshole surplus, or is it just more visible lately?

232 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:06:52pm

re: #227 Lidane

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That’s ridiculous. They should just sell a kidney.

233 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:07:57pm

re: #231 jaunte

Have we always had such an asshole surplus, or is it just more visible lately?

They’ve always been there. The 2008 election just made them more visible.

234 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:09:11pm

re: #231 jaunte

Have we always had such an asshole surplus, or is it just more visible lately?

I think many of them were created through talk radio, conservative media and the worship of false equivalence in mainstream media.

Jen Senko is a filmmaker who watched in horror as her father slowly came to believe the extreme right-wing lies of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative media mavens. Now she’s making a documentary about it calledThe Brainwashing of My Dad.

235 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:09:16pm

re: #227 Lidane

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[romney] Couldn’t they just sell of some of their stock a little at a time? [/romney]

236 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:09:17pm

re: #231 jaunte

I think the difference is that, while there have been a constant number of “assholes,” percent wise, you are now seeing the MTV Generation coming into government. This is the generation that watch “The Real World” when growing up, the ones that grew up in the 80’s, maybe into the 90’s.

Simply put, the MTV Generation is more likely to be obnoxious about their assholery.

My generation, with its hipsters and libertarians (there is a huge crossover between these groups, from what I saw at college), will likely have its assholes be the smuggest POS’s in the history of the planet.

237 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:10:28pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Jen Senko is a filmmaker who watched in horror as her father slowly came to believe the extreme right-wing lies of Rush Limbaugh and other conservative media mavens. Now she’s making a documentary about it calledThe Brainwashing of My Dad.

My dad’s there too, unfortunately.

238 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:14:51pm

Yikes! I’ve been watching what may be the densest blizzard of error, ignorance, and misinfomation ever put on television.
I refer to a History Channel presentation called 101 Weapons that Changed the World. This is supposedly the work of a “blue ribbon” panel of experts selected by Popular Mechanics magazine. The selections were decent; gunpowder, Colt pistol, catapult, Gatling gun, P-51, etc. but the detailed descriptions were apparently written by a completely uninformed intern on the basis of a half hour of Google search. The descriptions are necessarily brief, with 101 of them in about 90 minutes, so the BS flies fast and thick.
Examples:
-The “German Panzer tank” of WW2 was not a specific type. “Panzer” is simply a contraction of panzerkampfwagen (armored battle vehicle) and can refer to any tank of any nationality or type, from World War I to today.
-US Patton tanks did not overwhelm the Germans by force of numbers in World War 2. The first Patton tank did not appear until 1950, when the war had been over for 5 years.
-The B-52 was not the first aircraft to fly around the world non-stop.
-A “full metal jacket” does not encase the cartridge.
-Mustard gas was not invented in Washington DC.
-A6M Zeros did not carry torpedos at Pearl Harbor, or anywhere else for that matter, and there were more than 45 of them.
I collected these from about 7 minutes of this travesty. The atomic bomb took the number 1 spot, btw.

239 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:16:24pm

re: #237 jaunte

My dad’s there too, unfortunately.

Heh. My ex-wife broke my dad of Fox News, and she did it in less than one minute.

He was watching it one day when her and I were back in the States visiting; anyway, she watched it for about five minutes, and blew up. She said to him, “You don’t really believe any of this? It’s shameless propaganda; I grew up in a Communist country and was subjected to this kind of non-stop propaganda every day of my life until I was 16. This is sickening.”

It actually made him stop and think - he asked her about it, it led to a discussion where she pointed out various propaganda techniques she’d been exposed to as a kid, and shortly after that, he quit watching it.

240 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:16:53pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

I think many of them were created through talk radio, conservative media and the worship of false equivalence in mainstream media.

At least once in each of the last 18 months I’ve found myself glad that my own father doesn’t watch TV news or listen to talk radio. I’m just as glad that both Chicago newspapers are sane news sources.

241 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:17:36pm

re: #239 Dr Lizardo

Does she make house calls?

242 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:18:21pm

re: #237 jaunte

My dad’s there too, unfortunately.

A lot of people’s parents are there. My Mom and Stepdad are just starting to pull back now after Romney’s loss, they realize that they got way too emotionally invested in the last election and I think they’re a little bit embarrassed about it.

Of course like a lot of wealthier people their schtick has always followed the libertarian bullshit line about what’s in their own best self interest, making them basically single issue voters ruled by tax policy.

I shook them up last year when they kept talking about how they supported gay marriage, women’s right and equality. I point blank asserted that everything coming out of their mouths was self serving garbage, that they’d sacrificed all these supposed ideals of theirs for years in pursuit of, at best, a + or - 5% difference in their marginal tax rate, and that at their wealth level this couldn’t possibly have any impact on their standard of living.

243 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:18:46pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

I hope they included the Oldowan chopper.

Remember, HC is where one can find the latest on Ancient Aliens and UFOs, so you might be expecting too much.

244 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:19:02pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

That’s a full bombload of DERP, to be sure, but I’m certain there were many hours of Glenn Beck’s show on FNC that had even more crap crammed into 60 minutes instead of 90.

245 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:19:26pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! I’ve been watching what may be the densest blizzard of error, ignorance, and misinfomation ever put on television.
I refer to a History Channel presentation called 101 Weapons that Changed the World. This is supposedly the work of a “blue ribbon” panel of experts selected by Popular Mechanics magazine. The selections were decent; gunpowder, Colt pistol, catapult, Gatling gun, P-51, etc. but the detailed descriptions were apparently written by a completely uninformed intern on the basis of a half hour of Google search. The descriptions are necessarily brief, with 101 of them in about 90 minutes, so the BS flies fast and thick.
Examples:
-The “German Panzer tank” of WW2 was not a specific type. “Panzer” is simply a contraction of panzerkampfwagen (armored battle vehicle) and can refer to any tank of any nationality or type, from World War I to today.
-US Patton tanks did not overwhelm the Germans by force of numbers in World War 2. The first Patton tank did not appear until 1950, when the war had been over for 5 years.
-The B-52 was not the first aircraft to fly around the world non-stop.
-A “full metal jacket” does not encase the cartridge.
-Mustard gas was not invented in Washington DC.
-A6M Zeros did not carry torpedos at Pearl Harbor, or anywhere else for that matter, and there were more than 45 of them.
I collected these from about 7 minutes of this travesty. The atomic bomb took the number 1 spot, btw.

I remember when there was music on MTV & history on The History Channel…

246 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:20:15pm

re: #241 jaunte

Does she make house calls?

LOLOLOL

I let some of my students listen to streaming RW radio one day so they’d have an idea of what constitutes “political discourse”. Rush, Mark Levin, Lars Larson, etc.

They were horrified. And the aforementioned certainly isn’t the worst of it.

247 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:20:51pm

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

It’s amazing, and not in a good way.

248 freetoken  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:21:51pm

re: #246 Dr Lizardo

The hate-industry in America, which has found its most profitable home on radio, really is something to behold. It’s a sad commentary not only on American society but on humans in general.

249 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:22:18pm

re: #247 jaunte

It’s amazing, and not in a good way.

I had one group recently listen to Glenn Beck for half an hour. The consensus was that he belongs in a mental asylum, not in front of a microphone.

250 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:23:13pm

re: #248 freetoken

The hate-industry in America, which has found its most profitable home on radio, really is something to behold. It’s a sad commentary not only on American society but on humans in general.

Totally. It’s revolting beyond words, and it’s frankly scandalous how people just seem to lap it up.

251 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:23:32pm

re: #238 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! I’ve been watching what may be the densest blizzard of error, ignorance, and misinfomation ever put on television.
I refer to a History Channel presentation called 101 Weapons that Changed the World. This is supposedly the work of a “blue ribbon” panel of experts selected by Popular Mechanics magazine. The selections were decent; gunpowder, Colt pistol, catapult, Gatling gun, P-51, etc. but the detailed descriptions were apparently written by a completely uninformed intern on the basis of a half hour of Google search. The descriptions are necessarily brief, with 101 of them in about 90 minutes, so the BS flies fast and thick.
Examples:
-The “German Panzer tank” of WW2 was not a specific type. “Panzer” is simply a contraction of panzerkampfwagen (armored battle vehicle) and can refer to any tank of any nationality or type, from World War I to today.
-US Patton tanks did not overwhelm the Germans by force of numbers in World War 2. The first Patton tank did not appear until 1950, when the war had been over for 5 years.
-The B-52 was not the first aircraft to fly around the world non-stop.
-A “full metal jacket” does not encase the cartridge.
-Mustard gas was not invented in Washington DC.
-A6M Zeros did not carry torpedos at Pearl Harbor, or anywhere else for that matter, and there were more than 45 of them.
I collected these from about 7 minutes of this travesty. The atomic bomb took the number 1 spot, btw.

What weapon did the Germans use when they bombed Pearl Harbor?

252 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:24:08pm

re: #251 Iwouldprefernotto

What weapon did the Germans use when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Why, proton torpedoes, silly; everyone knows that.

:p

253 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:24:33pm

re: #251 Iwouldprefernotto

What weapon did the Germans use when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Panzerjagermeisters, I think.

254 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:24:35pm

re: #196 Vicious Babushka

BWAHAHA! Pete Santilli stole the wingnut truckers money!

Gee, whodathunkit?

255 Interesting Times  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:25:38pm

re: #250 Dr Lizardo

Totally. It’s revolting beyond words, and it’s frankly scandalous how people just seem to lap it up.

Someone once posted a quote from a wingnut who described his discovery of limbaugh as being just as exhilarating as losing his virginity o_O

Finally, here was someone of gravitas validating everything I’d ever thought and felt!

256 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:26:46pm

re: #251 Iwouldprefernotto

What weapon did the Germans use when they bombed Pearl Harbor.

Sarcasm.

257 Dr Lizardo  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:27:24pm

re: #255 Interesting Times

Someone once posted a quote from a wingnut who described his discovery of limbaugh as being just as exhilarating as losing his virginity o_O

Finally, here was someone of gravitas validating everything I’d ever thought and felt!

That pretty much sums it up.

258 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:27:47pm

re: #242 goddamnedfrank

A lot of people’s parents are there. My Mom and Stepdad are just starting to pull back now after Romney’s loss, they realize that they got way too emotionally invested in the last election and I think they’re a little bit embarrassed about it.

Of course like a lot of wealthier people their schtick has always followed the libertarian bullshit line about what’s in their own best self interest, making them basically single issue voters ruled by tax policy.

I shook them up last year when they kept talking about how they supported gay marriage, women’s right and equality. I point blank asserted that everything coming out of their mouths was self serving garbage, that they’d sacrificed all these supposed ideals of theirs for years in pursuit of, at best, a + or - 5% difference in their marginal tax rate, and that at their wealth level this couldn’t possibly have any impact on their standard of living.

My mom is an old Roosevelt Democrat. She never got to vote for FDR, cast her first ballot for Harry Truman in 1948, voted Dem ever since.

While I was going through my wingnut phase she just said “You’ll snap out of it someday.”

259 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:29:02pm

U LIBRUL POOPYHEADS!!11!!!!!!!

260 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:30:20pm

re: #255 Interesting Times

Someone once posted a quote from a wingnut who described his discovery of limbaugh as being just as exhilarating as losing his virginity o_O

Finally, here was someone of gravitas validating everything I’d ever thought and felt!

I’d be surprised that someone like actually had lost his virginity unless he’d paid the woman he lost it to.

261 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:30:35pm

re: #255 Interesting Times

Someone once posted a quote from a wingnut who described his discovery of limbaugh as being just as exhilarating as losing his virginity o_O

Finally, here was someone of gravitas validating everything I’d ever thought and felt!

His throbbing, circumscribed ideas stretched my trembling, inexperienced earholes to the limit.

262 jaunte  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:33:29pm

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

263 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:34:07pm

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

U LIBRUL POOPYHEADS!!11!!!!!!!

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Even Paulians note its from Make a Wish

Daily Paul: NC Truckers During the 2013 Make A Wish Foundation Event

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264 b.d.  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:37:50pm

re: #262 jaunte

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Santilli kidnapped the truckers and handed them over to Boehner, they will be released unharmed once Obamacre is repealed.

265 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:38:03pm
266 alpuz  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:38:45pm

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

Yep. Been there, seen that.

267 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:43:12pm

re: #227 Lidane

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So cutting revenue after committing to bills that must be paid… leads to an increase in debt. Funny how that works.

268 sagehen  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:44:14pm

re: #233 Lidane

They’ve always been there. The 2008 election internet just made them more visible.

FTFY

269 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:49:55pm

re: #267 sagehen

So cutting revenue after committing to bills that must be paid… leads to an increase in debt. Funny how that works.

Heh. Just like cutting taxes then starting two wars makes the deficit explode.

Then again, the GOP are the fiscally responsible party. ////////

270 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:51:15pm

Goodnight, all.

271 Kragar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:12:32pm

Jim Bob Duggar Compares US To Nazi Germany During The Holocaust

Duggar ended the address by retelling a story about a time when Mike Huckabee and his daughter visited a concentration camp, which he used to compare the current state of the US to Nazi Germany.

“As they were walking out of that concentration camp, he said little Sarah looked up at him and she said, ‘Daddy why didn’t somebody do something?’ You know what, that’s where we are at in our nation,” Duggar said. “Do we want our children, when we’re going to tell them about how great America was, they’re going to look at you and say, ‘Why didn’t somebody do something?’”

272 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:27pm

The Dems have seemingly found their spines, and the R’s are hating life:


The next few days promise to be really interesting.

273 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:20:39pm

re: #271 Kragar

Jim Bob Duggar Compares US To Nazi Germany During The Holocaust

What.The.Fuck?!?

274 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:21:08pm

re: #271 Kragar

Just once, I’d love for a Holocaust survivor to slap these morons for daring to invoke the Nazis for anything here in the United States.

275 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:32:58pm

re: #9 freetoken

This is happening in Scott Walker’s Wisconsin:

Mine firm questions protester’s role as a state geologist

Yes the mining firms concern about bias from the geologist is laughable considering they rewrote the mining laws to shoehorn their dirty mine into a pristine area.

Proposed Taconite Mine in the Penokee Range

The company Gogebic Taconite (GTAC) purchased the mineral rights for a vast area in northwestern Wisconsin— 21,000 acres along 22 miles of the beautiful Penokee Range in Ashland and Iron Counties. In 2011, GTAC proposed to build what could become the largest open-pit iron-ore mine in the world (4 1/2 miles long, 1.5 miles wide and up 1,000 feet deep) to extract taconite, a type of low-grade iron ore. Although they claimed to have no interest in circumventing Wisconsin’s safe-guard mining laws, they ended up working behind the scenes for months to gut the same mining laws that they supposedly were not interested in changing. AB 426 demolished environmental safeguards related to mining, eliminated public input, reduced revenues to local communities, and rushed the permit review process.

276 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:56:47pm

What is the likelihood that Pakistan knew what Al-Qaeda was doing before 9/11?

I think the chances of that are about 75%.

277 ninja cat  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:08:46pm
278 dell*nix  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:17:29pm

DC is a slot car track?

279 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:20:51pm

re: #271 Kragar

Jim Bob Duggar Compares US To Nazi Germany During The Holocaust

Duggar said. “Do we want our children, when we’re going to tell them about how great America was, they’re going to look at you and say, ‘Why didn’t somebody do something?’”

I am doing something. I am involved in get out the vote and public information efforts aimed at exposing the Tea Party saboteurs and insurrectionists and removing their shills from public office.

280 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:29:54pm

re: #183 Charles Johnson

From this side it looks like the exception for your IP should be in place. The block may be on your side.

I get this 403:
Forbidden

You don’t have permission to access /weblog/ on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

281 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:36:43pm

re: #272 Lidane

The Dems have seemingly found their spines, and the R’s are hating life:

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The next few days promise to be really interesting.

It deserves to be interesting. They have over reached and now must face the music.

Oh, and it’s raining in Austin like a cow pissing on a flat rock. Over 4” on the south side of town. Sadly, none to the west where we need it. Drought breaking rain needs to fill the reservoirs, not head to the gulf.

282 prairiefire  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:43:43pm

re: #187 subterraneanhomesickalien

Yep, Cardinals for the win.

283 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 10:43:47pm

re: #281 austin_blue

It deserves to be interesting. They have over reached and now must face the music.

I am amused by all the RWNJs losing their shit on Twitter and on teh intertubez. They really thought that Obama was bluffing and that he would’ve caved by now, or that the Dems would find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Seeing a united front against their extortion and against all the House GOP flailing has all the wingers freaking out right now.

Oh, and it’s raining in Austin like a cow pissing on a flat rock. Over 4” on the south side of town. Sadly, none to the west where we need it. Drought breaking rain needs to fill the reservoirs, not head to the gulf.

It’s coming down pretty hard here on the East side.

I had friends at ACL tonight. Now they’re all trying to get home, and they’re on bikes, since they figured that riding their bike would be more convenient than driving or taking the bus. They didn’t count on having to get home in a downpour. I don’t envy them.

284 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:00:32pm

Did anybody seriously imagine that, before the shutdown/debt ceiling fight was over, it would be Democrats who would united and standing strong and Republicans who’d be in disarray and fighting amongst themselves?

285 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:03:31pm

re: #275 Amory Blaine

Yes the mining firms concern about bias from the geologist is laughable considering they rewrote the mining laws to shoehorn their dirty mine into a pristine area.

Proposed Taconite Mine in the Penokee Range

Man, do I hate lazy reporting. There are two types of iron ore lodes. One is hematite, iron oxide, and the other is limonite, a hydrated iron oxide. After they are mined, they are reduced by stripping off oxygen (hematite) or both oxygen and hydrogen (limonite) to produce taconite pellets, which are around 65% pure iron.

If you want to take a look at an active open pit iron mine, go to Google maps and type in Ishpeming, Michigan. Just southeast of town is a massive works.

Is it a scar upon the earth? Yes. Does it result in acidic waste ponds? Yes. But it is damn efficient and can be managed. Unless you want to live in an adobe world, it is a fact of modern life.

286 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:08:56pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Did anybody seriously imagine that, before the shutdown/debt ceiling fight was over, it would be Democrats who would united and standing strong and Republicans who’d be in disarray and fighting amongst themselves?

Not to this degree, no. When the shutdown started, I hoped that POTUS would stand firm against the GOP’s extortion, but I half expected the Dems to start getting nervous and telling him to cave in to their demands. The only person on the left I’ve seen do that is Michael Kinsley over at TNR, but he’s always been a spineless weasel. Kinsley makes Alan Colmes look like a hellfire and brimstone preacher, so seeing him advocate caving in didn’t surprise me.

I’m heartened by seeing the Dems refuse to back down on this. The GOP have been nothing but an obstructionist party since 2008. It’s time they learned that they’re not going to be able to get their way and that elections have consequences.

287 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:08:58pm

re: #284 Targetpractice

Did anybody seriously imagine that, before the shutdown/debt ceiling fight was over, it would be Democrats who would united and standing strong and Republicans who’d be in disarray and fighting amongst themselves?

Shhhh—it’s not over yet—don’t jinx it.

288 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:14:24pm

People would be less concerned if the mining company hadn’t rewrote legislation. If it hadn’t been pushed through like so so much of the other divisive crap Walker did. There are tribal rice field that will be affected by this mine and frankly the whole Bad River watershed is at risk.

289 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:14:47pm

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

U LIBRUL POOPYHEADS!!11!!!!!!!

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Your reply should be “Is too!”

290 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:15:16pm

re: #283 Lidane

I am amused by all the RWNJs losing their shit on Twitter and on teh intertubez. They really thought that Obama was bluffing and that he would’ve caved by now, or that the Dems would find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Seeing a united front against their extortion and against all the House GOP flailing has all the wingers freaking out right now.

It’s coming down pretty hard here on the East side.

I had friends at ACL tonight. Now they’re all trying to get home, and they’re on bikes, since they figured that riding their bike would be more convenient than driving or taking the bus. They didn’t count on having to get home in a downpour. I don’t envy them.

She Who Must Be Obeyed had a gig tonight at the NeWorlDeli that we left at 9:45. We headed south to Bouldin and just got home before it started to come down hard. As for the Fest, I am sure they were happy that the rain held off until the show ended. As for the attendees, I hope they understand that Texas weather is as random as a lotto drawing.

Oh, and by the way, John Burnett, the NPR reporter, was in on harmonica tonight. He’s an absolute monster on the mouth harp. Who knew?

291 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:20:58pm

re: #286 Lidane

Not to this degree, no. When the shutdown started, I hoped that POTUS would stand firm against the GOP’s extortion, but I half expected the Dems to start getting nervous and telling him to cave in to their demands. The only person on the left I’ve seen do that is Michael Kinsley over at TNR, but he’s always been a spineless weasel. Kinsley makes Alan Colmes look like a hellfire and brimstone preacher, so seeing him advocate caving in didn’t surprise me.

I’m heartened by seeing the Dems refuse to back down on this. The GOP have been nothing but an obstructionist party since 2008. It’s time they learned that they’re not going to be able to get their way and that elections have consequences.

Yeah, I had expected by now that there would be a growing faction, either in the House, Senate, or both that would be calling on the White House to take whatever deal that the GOP was offering. That the House and Senate GOP would be far more united than they are and would have settled on some sort of joint terms to present as “reasonable.” I knew that Boehner and McConnell were virtually handcuffed by the Tea Party, but I never expected that to dissolve into the sort of sniping and insults that we’re seeing now.

292 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:22:45pm

Ashland County May Consider Banning Explosives Near Rocks With Asbestos

Ashland County Board Chairman Pete Russo says he’s getting lots of calls from citizens who are worried about asbestos and mesothelioma, a fatal lung cancer caused by airborne asbestos fibers. Recent reports by Northland College geoscience professor Tom Fitz and the Department of Natural Resources have found that asbestos fibers are in at least part of the ore body that Gogebic Taconite (GTAC) hopes to mine.

The DNR says it needs more information before they know if that ore body is dangerous, while Fitz calls the asbestos lethal.

Russo has called a special meeting of the Mining Impact Committee Wednesday, which will hear testimony from Fitz and the DNR. Then, he says, the committee will consider an ordinance which would ban using explosives on asbestos rock.

293 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:25:36pm

re: #287 CuriousLurker

Shhhh—it’s not over yet—don’t jinx it.

Walk vewwy vewwy softly…

294 CuriousLurker  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:26:18pm

*glares at Taregetpractice & Lidane* STOP talking about it! I am SO going to hold you two responsible if the Dems blink and it all falls apart. //

295 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:27:03pm

re: #293 Dancing along the light of day

Walk vewwy vewwy softly…

I’m hunting wabbits!

296 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:30:48pm

re: #175 Kragar

Social conservatives are ready to repopulate Planet Reagan with Ted Cruz as our colony leader. GOP elites: you listening?

I support NASA funding for a spaceship to take the load of them to any planet they so designate

297 Targetpractice  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:31:12pm

I’m not sure that Dems will blink at this point, I think that the Repubs by this point are well and truly fucked. Either they make a deal or they take the blame for default. With poll numbers having already crashed due to the shutdown, a default might well and truly wipe out any chance they have of regaining ground before next November. Meanwhile Senate Dems are now actually demanding that the sequester be slowly rolled back, instead of just accepting it as here to stay.

298 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:32:15pm

This is what you hate to see:

ci.austin.tx.us

“Flood assist” means that someone got really, really stupid.

299 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:32:54pm

re: #171 ProTARDISLiberal

China has its own issues. Namely, its in a worse demographic spot than the Republicans right now.

An upside down population pyramid and a massive imbalance between the genders, skewing towards males, which limits it’s future growth for 1-2 generations. This is also compounded by the fact that minorities are allowed to have more children than the Han, so the Uyghurs and Tibetans (among a few others), are getting relatively stronger.

Also, their economy continues to rely on exports, which is bad considering that with a soon to occur scarcity of oil. Which is also compounded by environmental issues in the nation that is leading to more and more food imports and issues regarding chronic illness. And to this a habit of pissing off its neighbors their imperialism, and China is heading to a perfect storm.

Much of this is true. China’s leadership is pretending like there’s nothing to worry about, though.

China has the 4-2-1 demographic problem now. Four grandparents, two parents, one child. With no public safety net for senior citizens in place, it’s that one kid who will need to support his elders — double that if he or she is married. Meanwhile, there is a serious imbalance between the number of men and women, as ProTARDISLiberal notes, meaning some men are going to be SOL in finding a wife (assuming he only wants previously unmarried girls in their 20s). There is also a danger that China will run out of resident factory workers, and may need to import workers from neighboring countries to continue to grow the manufacturing sector.

The Han are close to 90% of the population. The Tibetans and Uyghurs will all need to be like the Duggars to catch up.

China is investing heavily in Africa and the Pacific region, in a kind of neo-colonial fashion, offering technical advice, engineering expertise and generous loans in return for access to raw materials. But Chinese, in their typically arrogant fashion, are running roughshod over the locals, winning friends only among the people getting rich off their investments.

The environmental problems (and food safety issues) are also big worries. But the leadership seems to ignore the growing storm, at least in public.

300 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:50:07pm

re: #299 wheat-dogghazi

Meanwhile, there is a serious imbalance between the number of men and women, as ProTARDISLiberal notes, meaning some men are going to be SOL in finding a wife (assuming he only wants previously unmarried girls in their 20s).

Idon’t wanna sound alarmist, but this surplus of males means that China could, at least theoretically, start a war, lose tens of millions of soldiers and, regardless of outcome, still actually come out ahead demographically…

I do not lose sleep over this scenario, but thoughts like that are enough to make leaders a lot more reckless than they should be…

301 darthstar  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:50:19pm

Hey gang…fuck this place is expensive. Cheapest table is $25 minimum. Where the fuck do they find people who can play $50 and $100 minimum bets and have a good time doing it? I bought in for $200 at a blackjack table with my mom (who dropped $300 like it wasn’t there to start with) and held my own for a while, but the rule of a casino is still in force - the longer you stay, the more their chances of fucking you with a hot poker and no grease gets…and fuck they did.

My saving grace was a hot craps table…came back to the room about $44 under what I started with (counting the extra $200 I pulled from the ATM).

Interesting city - I think my best description of being here would be this: Perfectly choreographed chaos. They keep you off balance on purpose - even doing something like taking a piss…I mean, how do you fuck up something as simple as holding your dick, taking a piss, zipping up, and washing your hands…well, surprise, surprise! There’s a fucking app for that! You go to the sink to wash your hands and some woman is putting anti-bacterial foam on your hands while you turn on the water at the sink…so yeah, you give her a dollar (a filthy dollar, mind you) after you’ve sterilized your hands.

302 austin_blue  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:51:12pm

re: #292 Amory Blaine

Ashland County May Consider Banning Explosives Near Rocks With Asbestos

That’s a reasonable reaction. Removing overburden from an iron bearing ore body should be done gently, without explosives, especially if it contains asbestos bearing minerals.

The three most dangerous asbestos bearing minerals are amosite, crocidolite and chrysotile. There is no quantifiable safe exposure level to these minerals in air.

In other words words, a single exposure to these fibers could be deadly.

303 Lidane  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:54:48pm

re: #298 austin_blue

“Flood assist” means that someone got really, really stupid.

Driving in a flooded area stupid, or worse?

Either way that sucks. I hope they get out of their mess okay and learn a lesson.

304 Amory Blaine  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:58:21pm

The mining company has not been forthright and open with the public. They have been openly aggressive towards the Indian tribes, have employed out of state masked, camouflaged security teams armed with AR-15s to intimidate the public on the public land as well.

305 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:01:48am

re: #301 darthstar

Craps is the best. The most energy and fun. The cocktails flow faster, and your money is “safer” if you just park on the pass line and soak in the fun.

306 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:01:56am

re: #301 darthstar

They keep you off balance on purpose -

Um, yeah, they want your money!

307 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:06:06am

re: #305 Amory Blaine

Craps is the best. The most energy and fun. The cocktails flow faster, and your money is “safer” if you just park on the pass line and soak in the fun.

Yeah, but a $15 minimum crap table means you’ve got at least $60-80 out there at a time, covering the 6, 8, odds on the pass line, and the hard ways.

Still, it was a fun two hours, and I pulled back about $400 that I’d lost earlier.

308 sagehen  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:06:36am

re: #299 wheat-dogghazi

China has the 4-2-1 demographic problem now. Four grandparents, two parents, one child. With no public safety net for senior citizens in place, it’s that one kid who will need to support his elders — double that if he or she is married. Meanwhile, there is a serious imbalance between the number of men and women, as ProTARDISLiberal notes, meaning some men are going to be SOL in finding a wife (assuming he only wants previously unmarried girls in their 20s). There is also a danger that China will run out of resident factory workers, and may need to import workers from neighboring countries to continue to grow the manufacturing sector.

Whatever problems the 4-2-1 may cause, it’s nothing compared to the food shortages they would have had if they hadn’t put themselves in this box. As for lack of workers and wives… I’m sure North Korea will be happy to send sell them as many as they want. No matter how crappy the Chinese want to treat those Koreans, the Koreans will still find it a huge step up from the camps they were sold from.

309 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:07:17am

You could just play pass line. Let it ride baby!! Suck up them drinks!!! Make em pay!!!

310 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:11:30am

re: #309 Amory Blaine

You could just play pass line. Let it ride baby!! Suck up them drinks!!! Make em pay!!!

Yeah, but I don’t have the discipline for that.

311 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:12:11am

Me either. ;)

312 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:15:47am

The tables on the strip are always more expensive. I prefer Sam’s Town, Palace Station and the Horseshoe. They’ll have lower limits.

313 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:30:49am

re: #300 Sol Berdinowitz

Idon’t wanna sound alarmist, but this surplus of males means that China could, at least theoretically, start a war, lose tens of millions of soldiers and, regardless of outcome, still actually come out ahead demographically…

I do not lose sleep over this scenario, but thoughts like that are enough to make leaders a lot more reckless than they should be…

China’s military has both men and women serving in combat-ready posts, but males predominate. Whether the leadership would risk 2 million only children is another question. I am not sure if their families would get lifetime support should their only son or daughter be killed in battle.

314 simoom  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:33:04am

re: #272 Lidane

The Dems have seemingly found their spines, and the R’s are hating life.

Sounds like what is at issue is that the Dems don’t want to lock in the sequestration cuts plus near-Ryan spending levels for a whole year. A year long clean CR is effectively a year budget at those levels. They want regular order budget negotiations. They are willing to lock them in for a shorter duration to break the impasse, which I’m guessing is where this is going (3mos “clean” CR or something along those lines).

315 simoom  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:38:14am

Is it my imagination or does Robert sound kind of disappointed? :

316 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:40:47am

re: #313 wheat-dogghazi

China’s military has both men and women serving in combat-ready posts, but males predominate. Whether the leadership would risk 2 million only children is another question. I am not sure if their families would get lifetime support should their only son or daughter be killed in battle.

If their leaders decided that the territorial or political gain was worth that investment, they would not hesitate…

318 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:46:43am

re: #317 Varek Raith

South Carolina Man Gets Off Thanks To ‘Stand Your Ground’ After Shooting And Killing Innocent Bystander

This law is going to have a lot more victims before anybody changes it.

319 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:47:34am

re: #316 Sol Berdinowitz

Probably true, which is why China’s neighbors (and its own citizens) worry. The PLA has been deployed within China to put down rebellions restore a harmonious society in the far west, for example. China is investing money in its navy, and in naval surveillance, as well. Its space program doubtless has some military aspirations (as did ours and the Soviets).

320 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:48:31am

re: #318 Sol Berdinowitz

This law is going to have a lot more white victims before anybody changes it.

FTFY

321 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:51:55am

re: #320 wheat-dogghazi

FTFY

At some point we are going to see a scandalous high profile case, perhaps a sort of reverse Zimmermann/Martin incident that finally causes people to rethink the flaws in the logic of the law.

322 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:54:43am

re: #321 Sol Berdinowitz

At some point we are going to see a scandalous high profile case, perhaps a sort of reverse Zimmermann/Martin incident that finally causes people to rethink the flaws in the logic of the law.

Like some yokel shooting an off-duty cop, a judge or some rich businessman/woman.

323 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 1:14:36am

re: #321 Sol Berdinowitz

At some point we are going to see a scandalous high profile case, perhaps a sort of reverse Zimmermann/Martin incident that finally causes people to rethink the flaws in the logic of the law.

As soon as a young white girl gets shot by some trigger happy yutz, Nancy Grace and the rest of the outrage peddlers will be calling for the end of Stand Your Ground.

324 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 1:33:23am

Gee, it’s raining.
Again.
Sigh.

325 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 1:46:25am

re: #323 Lidane

As soon as a young white girl gets shot by some trigger happy yutz, Nancy Grace and the rest of the outrage peddlers will be calling for the end of Stand Your Ground.

My first question would be: Why was Scott’s 15 yr old daughter out at 1:30 in the morning, coming from a club? And 2 carloads of teenaged—maybe some middle schoolers—out in the middle of the night getting in cat fights and threatening each other? WTF?

Call me old-fashioned, but that “club” ought to be in a shitload of trouble. And if your 15 yr old is out that late club-hopping, you ought to be in trouble, too, by allowing your underaged kid to frequent a place where alcohol is served and would be available to her.

I can follow the same line of “logic” that Rutherford presented in this case, too, in getting this killer off.

Sounds as though the Scott girl needed as much protection from her father as she did anyone else.

I’m really surprised that this case, presented as one of “gallantry” (from a southern point of view) was allowed to come to this result, but you have to understand it in that context. Scott was protecting his property (his daughter) in that sense more than any other, transferring any “danger” from her to himself, thus giving him the impetus and right to shoot first and ask questions later. This kind of autocratic flim-flam, usually reserved for the “higher born”, is seen as a special kind of “democracy” for the hoi polloi because it eliminates the need for law enforcement and courts—let ‘em kill each other off so we don’t have to.

326 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 1:56:56am

Yeah, the children. Or why some people shouldn’t have them.

Two arrested after tattoo found on 10-year-old in Bartlesville

tulsaworld.com

Makes you wonder if they were giving that child meth, too, among other activities.

327 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:26:14am

O_o

That is simply the best version of “Classical Gas” I have ever heard.

Thank you, Charles.

328 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:39:09am
329 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:40:58am

Of course, Palin probably thought they were in the real Egypt…

Steve Lonegan and Sarah Palin rev up conservatives at speedway rally

nj.com

Delusion, however, reigned as usual.

330 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:43:51am

re: #326 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, the children. Or why some people shouldn’t have them.

Two arrested after tattoo found on 10-year-old in Bartlesville

tulsaworld.com

Makes you wonder if they were giving that child meth, too, among other activities.

The tattoo created on Wilson’s child was made from ink mixed with human ashes, according to the police affidavit. Memorial tattoos made with ashes get mixed reviews from tattoo artists, some of whom will not do them at all. According to e-how.com injecting ashes into the body as part of a tattoo has risks including having the body reject the ink resulting in a messed up design, or worse causing infection and scarring.

Even creepier.

331 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:49:14am

re: #71 Justanotherhuman

I’m sorry, but pineapple just does not belong on pizza. Neither does spinach, even though I go semi-vegetarian (no meat, but plenty of cheese, mushrooms, peppers, onions, black olives).

(shakes head)

A decent “Hawaiian” pizza is good.

(dodges rotten vegetables thrown at him)

Country ham, fresh pineapple, a less fruity tomato sauce, maybe some (Maui) onions… Tasty.

A poorly put together one is Satan’s ass crack.

And spinach is just fine on za, so long as it’s not canned and limp.

IMAO.

332 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:52:34am

re: #330 Amory Blaine

Even creepier.

Wouldn’t be surprised if meth was traded for those tattoos, either.

Obtaining human ashes is creepy enough—is it legal?

333 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 2:53:47am

re: #88 kirkspencer

Apology accepted, but pizza is personal. As such it can have any topping the consumer desires regardless of your (or my) distaste.

(The anchovy and sauerkraut pizza I watched being consumed is what brought me to this epiphany. It was that or go on a rampage against all PINO [Pizza in Name Only]s.)

I love anchovies on pizza, but only in a certain way.

Cannot stand them being cooked on the pizza; love them placed cold on the finished pizza.

Unless you have a family shop nearby, this will never happen.

334 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:01:56am

re: #332 Justanotherhuman

Obtaining human ashes is creepy enough—is it legal?

Assuming the ashes came from an urn containing a cremated relative, sure. Wouldn’t be that hard to come by. Just scoop whatever is needed out of the urn. Still, there are damn good reasons why most tattoo artists won’t use ashes in a tattoo.

That whole story is fucked up. I feel horrible for that kid being raised in that kind of environment. The tattoo is the least of it. Hell, I have tattoos. The drugs are the bigger problem.

335 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:04:41am

re: #333 chadu

I love anchovies on pizza, but only in a certain way.

Cannot stand them being cooked on the pizza; love them placed cold on the finished pizza.

Unless you have a family shop nearby, this will never happen.

I’ve only known one person who liked anchovies on pizza. I remember being at his house with some other friends and he ordered three pizzas for people to eat. One was a regular pepperoni pizza, one was cheese, and the third was an anchovy pizza.

I tried one slice. It was the saltiest damn pizza I’ve ever had. I haven’t had anchovies since.

336 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:06:27am

re: #333 chadu

I love anchovies on pizza, but only in a certain way.

Cannot stand them being cooked on the pizza; love them placed cold on the finished pizza.

Unless you have a family shop nearby, this will never happen.

50 yrs ago, anchovies were pretty popular on pizza, but tastes change. I always thought they were too salty; pepperoni started replacing the fish, even though its sodium content is sky-high, too.

A good dough thin crust, sauce w/enough basil, and plenty of mozzarella cheese are the only real requirements for pizza. Everything else are add-ons or tweaks, anyway.

337 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:08:11am

Looks like the “liberal” press is on a mission to ignore the Senate Republican filibuster of the clean debt limit bill. The only reference I can find to it is in the already cited TPM article.

338 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:16:17am

re: #337 goddamnedfrank

Looks like the “liberal” press is on a mission to ignore the Senate Republican filibuster of the clean debt limit bill. The only reference I can find to it is in the already cited TPM article.

BOTH SIDES DO IT!11!!11ty

339 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:20:45am

Pizza, baby. This makes me want some.

Image: 200px-New_York_Pizza_Slices.png

340 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:27:00am

re: #214 Vicious Babushka

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I can’t tell if that is satire or not.

How sad.

341 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:29:56am

re: #175 Kragar

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Does this make any sense at all?

342 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:35:56am

re: #339 Justanotherhuman

Pizza, baby. This makes me want some.

Image: 200px-New_York_Pizza_Slices.png

Youtube Video

343 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:49:35am

re: #184 simoom

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What the goddamn fuck was that?

344 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:52:09am

re: #234 goddamnedfrank

I think many of them were created through talk radio, conservative media and the worship of false equivalence in mainstream media.

Ah. Information disease again.

I believe that information disease is possibly one of the biggest dangers our species faces. Individuals and the societies they comprise need factual information and careful training in ethics. Information disease destroys these things.

We have too much power to use it without care and restraint.

345 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:55:35am

re: #259 Vicious Babushka

U LIBRUL POOPYHEADS!!11!!!!!!!

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I notice the guy has a picture of himself holding onto a penis substitute.

346 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 3:57:19am

re: #344 Romantic Heretic

Yeah, I’m seeing commenters on WaPo claim that the Senate Dems were talking about brining a clean CR on the debt limit to the floor but are now refusing to, and are inserting their own poison pills. It’s like the filibuster never happened … incredibly infuriating.

348 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:05:37am

re: #214 Vicious Babushka

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O_o.
…
I have no words.

349 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:07:57am

re: #345 Romantic Heretic

I notice the guy has a picture of himself holding onto a penis substitute.

And “Glock Lady” might be another paid twitter acct from QuitterGov.

350 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:16:58am

How to get your comment on WaPo deleted -> Politely mention what the “liberal” media, including them, aren’t covering.

351 simoom  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 4:50:23am
352 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:03:52am

re: #329 Justanotherhuman

Of course, Palin probably thought they were in the real Egypt…

Steve Lonegan and Sarah Palin rev up conservatives at speedway rally

nj.com

Delusion, however, reigned as usual.

I heard a Lonegan ad on the way home from my gig this morning (neither Bruce Willis nor Katy Perry showed up, but half the SNL cast was there, so there’s that). The ad is right out of the Golden Age of Karl Rove - scary music, ominous voiceover…

“Cory Booker - Liberal. Extreme. Radical. Corrupt. Rubber-stamp for Obama!!!”

The ad also charged that Booker favors ‘abortions, right up to the day of delivery!’

You’d think that this sort of shit would have run its course by now. Guess not.

And the quote from Palin at the Lonegan rally they’re playing on news radio has something to do with the media being ‘all wee-wee’d up’ over Lonegan.

All wee-wee’d up. Yes, she really said that. Oy.

353 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:05:02am

Another reason to give up religion.

India temple stampede in Madhya Pradesh ‘kills 60’

At least 60 pilgrims have been killed in a stampede near a Hindu temple in central India, police have said.

bbc.co.uk

Meanwhile, half a million or more escape Cyclone Phailin.

354 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:17:18am

I got hired at a Bangladesh sweatshop. Meet my 9-year-old boss

Meem, 9, works 12-hour shifts at a factory in Dhaka, Bangladesh. She dreams of becoming a sewing operator, buying more hair clips and helping her family.

DHAKA, BANGLADESH—Some days are good for Meem, others she likes to forget as quickly as possible.
The first time I saw Meem, which was also my first day at work at a sweatshop, she was having a good day despite the wretched heat. She sat cross-legged on the concrete floor, a tiny, frail figure among piles of collars, cuffs and other parts of unstitched shirts.
She had a pair of cutters in her hands, much like eyebrow tweezers, and she was trimming threads from a navy collar. She cleared one collar after another of threads until the big pile, which had been bigger than her, was no more. It took her all morning and she didn’t look up much, did not join any conversation. When it was done, she took a few gulps of water from a scrunched bottle, walked around for a bit, her little hands rubbing her back, and went back to trimming threads — this time, from navy cuffs.
She did that from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m., except for an hourlong lunch break.

355 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:22:02am

re: #352 makeitstop

I heard a Lonegan ad on the way home from my gig this morning (neither Bruce Willis nor Katy Perry showed up, but half the SNL cast was there, so there’s that). The ad is right out of the Golden Age of Karl Rove - scary music, ominous voiceover…

“Cory Booker - Liberal. Extreme. Radical. Corrupt. Rubber-stamp for Obama!!!”

The ad also charged that Booker favors ‘abortions, right up to the day of delivery!’

You’d think that this sort of shit would have run its course by now. Guess not.

And the quote from Palin at the Lonegan rally they’re playing on news radio has something to do with the media being ‘all wee-wee’d up’ over Lonegan.

All wee-wee’d up. Yes, she really said that. Oy.

Pres Obama said it first—about the political reaction to the 2008 campaign (in 2009). Palin, of course, stole it.

Youtube Video

356 makeitstop  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:30:23am

re: #355 Justanotherhuman

Pres Obama said it first—about the political reaction to the 2008 campaign (in 2009). Palin, of course, stole it.

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Wow. I’d never seen that!

But when Palin said it, her voice went up about an octave and a half, making her already annoying voice about 50 more times annoying.

To quote a certain internet cat, it was awful.

357 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:45:45am

re: #356 makeitstop

Wow. I’d never seen that!

But when Palin said it, her voice went up about an octave and a half, making her already annoying voice about 50 more times annoying.

To quote a certain internet cat, it was awful.

Yeah, it’s not enough that she’s a fuck-up on her own—even when she steals from others, she fucks that up, too.

Sarah Palin is the epitome of the kind of shallowness that others associate with the US. The only thing she actually had going for her was her physical attractiveness, shilled by the RP at every opportunity and that “sexy” image glossed over, for far too many, her complete lack of intellectual rigor even though every time she opened her mouth, you got an example of it. She’s completed the process of being a “product” herself but it’s gotten old already. She was a fad whose time is over, like the “pet rock”.

358 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:47:22am

re: #357 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, it’s not enough that she’s a fuck-up on her own—even when she steals from others, she fucks that up, too.

Sarah Palin is the epitome of the kind of shallowness that others associate with the US. The only thing she actually had going for her was her physical attractiveness, shilled by the RP at every opportunity and that “sexy” image glossed over, for far too many, her complete lack of intellectual rigor even though every time she opened her mouth, you got an example of it. She’s completed the process of being a “product” herself but it’s gotten old already. She was a fad whose time is over, like the “pet rock”.

I think the idea was for her to simply stand up next to McCain, look beautiful and serve as a blank screen onto which Americans could project their image of what an ideal candidate should be.

But that approach depended on her keeping her mouth shut…

359 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:57:48am

re: #274 Lidane

Just once, I’d love for a Holocaust survivor to slap these morons for daring to invoke the Nazis for anything here in the United States.

360 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:58:10am

I would like to quote Thomas Edmund Dewey:

“We have in our party some fine, high-minded patriotic people who honestly oppose farm price supports, unemployment insurance, old age benefits, slum clearance, and other social programs…these people believe in a laissez-faire society and look back wistfully to the miscalled ‘good old days’ of the nineteenth century…if such efforts to turn back the clock are actually pursued, you can bury the Republican Party as the deadest pigeon in the country.”

361 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 5:58:54am

re: #358 Sol Berdinowitz

I think the idea was for her to simply stand up next to McCain, look beautiful and serve as a blank screen onto which Americans could project their image of what an ideal candidate should be.

But that approach depended on her keeping her mouth shut…

She has no self-awareness. Doesn’t realize that she’s really uninformed, uneducated, and genuinely stupid, and has spawned hundreds of others like herself. In that, she was successful.

Even when you’re intelligent, that’s not enough, but if you’re intelligent, you know that. You must know that there are things you don’t know, things you should learn about before you give an opinion. Too many people out there who don’t practice this. It’s just more plain ignorance.

There are people who skate by in life this way—she’s up there at the top of the list.

362 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:01:10am

Yunno, that all aside, she was governor of a state with a ppopulation equal to that of Louisville, KY. And although it is the largest state in the union, near 3/4th of it is Federal or tribal land,

So on top of it all, she was simply underqualified for the office and nobody had the nerve to call her or the party out on that.

363 Flounder  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:01:54am

Good morning, what’s shaking?

364 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:04:03am

re: #363 Flounder

Good morning, what’s shaking?

MJ has had enough!

365 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:05:36am

Burp.

366 Teukka  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:08:22am

re: #359 Vicious Babushka

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Ah, I remember that one well.

Sadly, the descendands of the guys who drew the wrath of the orignal Vicious Babushka are now in parliament, under the name “Sweden Democrats” (SIC(!)). :(

Also the following incendiary exchange on the floor of the house seems to exploding on the intertubes:
Youtube Video

367 Flounder  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:12:22am

Grits for breffist. I know, yawn.

368 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:13:15am

OK I’m off to the swimming pool now.

369 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:21:36am

Good morning fine people. Sorry I’m late, I got stuck behind the trucker convoy.

371 Sol Berdinowitz  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:24:46am

Globalization benefits us all! What’s good for the Walton family is good for America!

372 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:29:10am

So I’m watching Star Trek NG and realize that it’s basically a cop show with lots of scene cuts and wardrobe changes. Reminds me of the old Star Trek. Gunsmoke in space meets a human resources department of an IT corporation.

373 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:29:46am

Also noticed that it’s kind of soap opera like. A lot of angry crew members.

374 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:30:22am

Same with Voyager. Kind of goofy.

375 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:31:15am

Every time they have to fix something on the ship you never see them grab any tools either. They’ll just go on some computer prop and start pressing a bunch of buttons.

376 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:32:15am

I also noticed that they really lean on a lot of metaphysics and ESP like goofiness. Mind readers. I’m surprised they didn’t use more astrology.

377 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:35:17am

re: #375 Gus

Every time they have to fix something on the ship you never see them grab any tools either. They’ll just go on some computer prop and start pressing a bunch of buttons.

Image: HU4MV.gif

378 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:36:11am

re: #373 Gus

Also noticed that it’s kind of soap opera like. A lot of angry crew members.

But no sex and no pregnancies or abortions, either. Aren’t those a vital part of soaps?

Why is science fiction so sexless? Because people are supposed to transcend the physical?

379 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:36:46am

re: #377 Varek Raith

Image: HU4MV.gif

Exactly.

[Beep. Boop. Beep, beep. Boop. Bzzt, bzzt. Boop…]

There. Fixed.

380 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:38:33am

Just hit the warp core with this sledge.

381 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:38:46am

And if you’re over 45 good luck with keeping a job with The Federation unless you are a doctor or actually run the ship.

382 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:41:34am

re: #378 Justanotherhuman

But no sex and no pregnancies or abortions, either. Aren’t those a vital part of soaps?

Why is science fiction so sexless? Because people are supposed to transcend the physical?

CSI: Space

383 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:42:29am

re: #381 b.d.

And if you’re over 45 good luck with keeping a job with The Federation unless you are a doctor or actually run the ship.

Yeah. They had some old admiral character on there the other day. They could have used a real old actor. Instead they made up some actor to look like an old man. Looked goofy.

384 Flounder  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:42:33am

If I got the red tunic, I just wouldn’t go into space!

385 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:43:14am

re: #378 Justanotherhuman

But no sex and no pregnancies or abortions, either. Aren’t those a vital part of soaps?

Why is science fiction so sexless? Because people are supposed to transcend the physical?

Trek had a few episodes that broached the subject. Amok Time for Vulcan sex, for one. And there was one TNG ep that had the “fully functional” Data bedding down with a horny Lt Yar. But such occasions were few and far between, possibly because of network restrictions.

386 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:43:45am

Lol
stardestroyer.net

387 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:44:10am

re: #385 wheat-dogghazi

Trek had a few episodes that broached the subject. Amok Time for Vulcan sex, for one. And there was one TNG ep that had the “fully functional” Data bedding down with a horny Lt Yar. But such occasions were few and far between, possibly because of network restrictions.

I like the Enterprise one where whizmo gets pregnant.

388 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:44:49am

re: #386 Varek Raith

Lol
stardestroyer.net

Star Trek: City Building Department

389 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:45:57am

Starfleet warpcores have this nasty habit of always failing in some way or another. Sometimes spectacularly.

390 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:46:34am

Too much paranormal stuff. Lots of mind reading.

391 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:47:35am

NCIS in Space

392 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:48:18am

In space no one gets their hand’s dirty or washes.

393 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:48:20am

re: #376 Gus

I also noticed that they really lean on a lot of metaphysics and ESP like goofiness. Mind readers. I’m surprised they didn’t use more astrology.

The Deanna Troi character in TNG was just plain annoying. She sat on the bridge and every once in a while Picard would ask her to “read the emotions” of the other people they encountered.

394 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:49:24am

re: #393 wheat-dogghazi

The Deanna Troi character in TNG was just plain annoying. She sat on the bridge and every once in a while Picard would ask her to “read the emotions” of the other people they encountered.

Yes. Very. Regardless of how smitten I got she was annoying. Way too much crying too.

395 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:50:26am

Also, lets put kids on starships!

396 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:51:26am

Flat tire!

OK, somebody fix this.

Yes captain.

[Presses 10,000 buttons on computer screen.]

There, fixed.

397 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:52:00am

Youtube Video

398 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:52:08am

Magic show.

399 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:52:51am

Fixing tooth aches with magic wands.

400 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:53:46am

Shuttle bay doors burst open in the middle of space… captain manages to hold on with his bare hands while breathing normally.

401 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:54:16am

No seatbelts. Office chairs all over the place.

402 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:54:50am

Electrical panel catches fire. Someone puts the fire out and it still works.

403 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:58:25am

re: #402 Gus

Electrical panel catches fire. Someone puts the fire out and it still works.

That’s a cheap, overused TV effect, added for “drama.” I remember watching the old Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea series, and even as a kid, I wondered how they kept the boat running with all the control panels shorting out every damned episode.

404 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:58:30am

Mornin’ gang.

405 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 6:58:57am

I am not human! Can’t you see by the organic patterns of the henna tattoos on my temples? //

406 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:01:04am

re: #403 wheat-dogghazi

That’s a cheap, overused TV effect, added for “drama.” I remember watching the old Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea series, and even as a kid, I wondered how they kept the boat running with all the control panels shorting out every damned episode.

Run Silent Run Deep with Clark Gable and Burt Lancaster was more realistic.

407 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:07:18am

re: #405 Gus

I am not human! Can’t you see by the organic patterns of the henna tattoos on my temples? //

Low-budget aliens. This is a TV show, not a Hollywood mega-blockbuster. At least the TNG Klingons were marginally more alien-looking than the TOS Klingons.

I’ve enjoyed watching every Trek series, even Enterprise. But I could spend hours — weeks even — pointing out all the silliness in those shows.

I’ve been watching Arrow, and I can do the same thing. F’r’instance, in one episode Oliver Queen has Felicity Smoak trace, using her hacker-fu, the manufacturer of a special kind of arrow found at a crime scene, which leads (naturally) to the perp. So, how come no one can do the same thing with the hundreds of arrows he’s been leaving around all over Starling City?

Maybe he just has them custom made in China. Ahem.

408 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:10:07am

re: #407 wheat-dogghazi

Low-budget aliens. This is a TV show, not a Hollywood mega-blockbuster. At least the TNG Klingons were marginally more alien-looking than the TOS Klingons.

I’ve enjoyed watching every Trek series, even Enterprise. But I could spend hours — weeks even — pointing out all the silliness in those shows.

I’ve been watching Arrow, and I can do the same thing. F’r’instance, in one episode Oliver Queen has Felicity Smoak trace, using her hacker-fu, the manufacturer of a special kind of arrow found at a crime scene, which leads (naturally) to the perp. So, how come no one can do the same thing with the hundreds of arrows he’s been leaving around all over Starling City?

Maybe he just has them custom made in China. Ahem.

I liked Enterprise. They put more effort with the aliens.

409 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:12:58am

re: #407 wheat-dogghazi

The Klingons may look better but making one of them part of your crew only to treat him like some partially house broken pit bull by everyone is not a step forward.

410 Flounder  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:14:06am

I am into the first season of Farscape. I really enjoy Jim Henson’s (son) magic. I was always a big fan of the Muppets, I think I prefer it to complete computer programming of effects/monsters. Puppeteers need to make a living too!

411 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:15:27am

re: #409 b.d.

The Klingons may look better but making one of them part of your crew only to be treat him like some partially house broken pit bull by everyone is not a step forward.

Still trying to figure out why they had Worf freak out and point his phaser at the video screen on the bridge so many times. Doesn’t make sense.

412 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:15:49am

Was Worf really Elvis about to shoot the TV? //

413 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:16:49am

I am aware of how personal people take their favorite TV shows.

414 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:17:18am

re: #409 b.d.

The Klingons may look better but making one of them part of your crew only to be treat him like some partially house broken pit bull by everyone is not a step forward.

“If you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand!”
— Worf to Picard.

Worf and the Klingons of TNG remind me of Larry Niven’s kzinti found in Ringworld. Centuries of rash warfare has gradually eliminated the most aggressive types from the gene pool. I’m sure that no coincidence.

415 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:17:41am

The Original Series had some cool aliens. Living rocks, non-corporeal beings, super evolved energy fields, and klingons who later did voice acting for Ren and Stimpy.

416 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:18:19am

Star Trek: 90210

417 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:18:32am

Star Trek: Uri Geller in Space

418 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:18:45am

Star Trek: Real Truckers in Space

419 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:19:57am

Real Housewives of Star Trek

420 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:20:06am

re: #401 Gus

No seatbelts. Office chairs all over the place.

Design suggestions for Star Trek spaceships:

A: 5 point restraint harnesses so people stop getting flung around so much.

B: Automate your fucking weapons systems so that you can return fire immediately.

C: It’s cool your computer still somehow work after shorting out and killing people, but it’s pretty easy to make electrical circuits not overload. It’s called a circuit breaker and it was invented in 1879.

D: Your command and control center should be in the middle of the ship if possible, which it is since you don’t actually look out windows, so why strap it to the top like some sort of death-seeking weirdos?

421 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:20:15am

Twitter is probably the most parasitical company ever. After facebook, of course.

How Twitter Insiders Cut Their Taxes

I don’t even think they’ve run a profit yet.

422 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:24:23am

re: #421 Carlos Danger

Twitter is probably the most parasitical company ever. After facebook, of course.

How Twitter Insiders Cut Their Taxes

I don’t even think they’ve run a profit yet.

I think it’s funny that someone is writing for the Wall Street Journal is also using the phrase, “Twitter elites.”

423 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:26:02am

Veterans groups to push to end government shutdown

The event will be held Tuesday morning at the National World War II Memorial, several sources familiar with it confirmed to CNN. Some of the major groups that will be represented include: The American Legion, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, Veterans of Foreign Wars, Disabled American Veterans, Air Force Sergeants Association, National Military Family Association and Jewish War Veterans.

…

The event will be held Tuesday morning at the National World War II Memorial, several sources familiar with it confirmed to CNN. Some of the major groups that will be represented include: The American Legion, Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, Veterans of Foreign Wars, Disabled American Veterans, Air Force Sergeants Association, National Military Family Association and Jewish War Veterans.

424 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:26:27am

re: #411 Gus

Still trying to figure out why they had Worf freak out and point his phaser at the video screen on the bridge so many times. Doesn’t make sense.

I thought that was some excellent acting.

Romulans! Stand back, I’ve got them!

Worf, it’s just a screen.

425 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:27:27am

re: #424 darthstar

I thought that was some excellent acting.

Romulans! Stand back, I’ve got them!

Worf, it’s just a screen.

[Lurch groan.]

426 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:27:55am

So basically Worf was like a kitten in front of a bedroom mirror. //

427 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:28:13am

I loathe that smarmy David Gregory. Why do I continue to turn on that show?

428 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:29:24am

Worf always got made fun of on TNG. It’s like a running joke that he got scared first.

429 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:30:00am

I’m signing off from the Middle Kingdom, and hoping that tomorrow I won’t need to use my VPN to access LGF.

Grumble, grumble.

430 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:32:18am

Too much paranormal and magic tricks and not enough science. Science fiction should be closer to science and less so to a lyrical play at a Renn fair.

431 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:32:33am

Deus ex machina.

432 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:34:01am

Worf gets denied again and again and again.
Youtube Video

433 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:34:31am

We are the knights of space!

Break out the Holy Photon Torpedo!

Make it so number one.

Troi, read their minds!

Chakotay: I’m filing a complaint with HR department.

434 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:34:48am

re: #430 Gus

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

435 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:37:11am

re: #421 Carlos Danger

Twitter is probably the most parasitical company ever. After facebook, of course.

How Twitter Insiders Cut Their Taxes

I don’t even think they’ve run a profit yet.

Dudebros consistently tell the public how little they actually care about their welfare, as long as the dudebros are making coin.

436 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:39:24am

re: #434 Carlos Danger

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

Not many.

437 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:39:43am

re: #434 Carlos Danger

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

Maybe Babylon 5, though of course, it had its plot contrivances.

438 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:41:43am

There is a real-life Eric Cartman.

439 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:43:37am

Some new show about a Chicago fire house on TV I see. I could only watch 5 minutes of that.

440 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:44:04am

re: #436 Gus

Not many.

Almost ironically, a lot of what I’d call ‘true’ science fiction shows take place mostly in the present. Continuum, a really great show about oppressive states, terrorism, etc. is mostly set in the present day, with time-travelers, and uses the metaphor of time travel to think about historical inevitability, the effects of choices, and most of the use of technology is about human interaction with technology and with the system necessary to create it; the ‘hero’ of the show is sent backwards in time with some equipment, but she has to learn not to rely on it.

441 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:44:33am

re: #434 Carlos Danger

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

Quark? ////

en.wikipedia.org

442 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:47:17am

re: #420 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Design suggestions for Star Trek spaceships:

A: 5 point restraint harnesses so people stop getting flung around so much.

But really, at the speeds they’re going, and the rate at which they accelerate and decelerate, if the artificial gravity/shock absorbing system weren’t perfect, they’d all be a smear on the aft bulkhead the first time Kirk says, “Warp Factor 1”.

443 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:47:52am

Star Twerk: Miley Cyrus in Space

Too soon?

//

444 Killgore Trout  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:48:00am

re: #430 Gus

Too much paranormal and magic tricks and not enough science. Science fiction should be closer to science and less so to a lyrical play at a Renn fair.

I generally agree with that but the Dr. Who reboot changed my mind a bit on soft science fiction. They did a brilliant job updating the series while keeping much of the the soft sci fi and campy elements. They really did a brilliant job. The problem with the Star Trek reboots is they tried but never really updated into serious/Asimov style sci fi but never gave up the cheesy, simplistic morality story lines. Made a bit worse by taking itself a bit too seriously. Another thing Dr. Who got right was, although each episode is self contained, there is an overall story arch. The characters and universe does change and evolve over time. In Star Treck, after each epic, massively important one hour episode the characters and universe all return to where they started. Nothing ever changes.

445 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:48:25am

re: #434 Carlos Danger

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

True fiction?

446 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:49:02am

re: #443 Gus

Star Twerk: Miley Cyrus in Space

Too soon?

//

Kirk would hit that.

447 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:53:00am

re: #445 GeneJockey

You mean the events of Independence Day never happened?

448 miclaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:53:57am

re: #446 GeneJockey

Kirk would hit anything!

449 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:54:12am

Come to think of it the same is true with war movies. Really good ones are rare.

450 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:54:59am

re: #447 Carlos Danger

You mean the events of Independence Day never happened?

Heh.

I appreciate Roland Emmerich’s disaster films as just that…..disaster films in the tradition of Irwin Allen.

But the science in these films is utterly risible. “Mutated neutrinos” as in 2012? Really?

451 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:55:36am

re: #449 Gus

Come to think of it the same is true with war movies. Really good ones are rare.

Der Untergang is one I would consider one of the best.

452 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:57:22am

One thing about the Star Trek universe is that replicator technology has essentially done away with the requirement for work, and people only have to do what they want to do, and everyone has whatever they need.

But that’s not the direction we’re headed in. As automation has reduced the need for manual labor in manufacturing, rather than greater equality, we’ve gotten greater INequality. Making all the stuff everybody can afford to buy takes fewer people than need jobs to pay for it, and instead of cutting hours progressively so that there’s work for everyone who wants/needs to work, we just cut wages and increase the hours of those with jobs so that we don’t have to hire more. And then we piss on those who can’t find a job.

453 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:58:40am

Ah, Gus commenting on Star Trek.
Awesome.
:D

454 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:59:40am

re: #445 GeneJockey

True fiction?

Exactly. Like cutting corporate taxes generates revenue.

455 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 7:59:43am

re: #453 Varek Raith

Ah, Gus commenting on Star Trek.
Awesome.
:D

Maybe I should watch Magnum PI tonight.

456 Stoatly  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:00:05am

re: #220 ProTARDISLiberal

I would argue it isn’t corruption. The government likes the Taliban. They support them by taking our money we give them and stabbing us in the back.

It’s not either/or, it’s both

The government of Pakistan isn’t a single united thing, more a collection of warring but overlapping interests: religious, political, military, nationalist, and the ISS secret service that considers itself above everything else and whose creature the Taliban really is

457 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:00:10am

guess it all depends on your brand of science fiction…

you have what could considered to be the space opera genre which includes Stark Trek (and its many incarnations), Babylon 5, Farcscape etc

You have the alternate history genre Time Tunnel, Quantum Leap, Journeyman, Sliders etc

Then you have the window dressing shows, where they are regular dramas, using science fiction as their schtick, i.e. Lost In Space, Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea

Then the outliers: Space 1999, U.F.O., The Invaders

myself…I enjoyed some of each to be honest, shows that have engaging characters, that entertain, occasionally thought provoking

458 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:00:51am

re: #454 darthstar

Exactly. Like cutting corporate taxes generates revenue.

C’mon man. Nobody’s dumb enough to buy that as a plot device. Fiction has to make sense!
//

459 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:01:12am

re: #432 b.d.

Worf gets denied again and again and again.
[Embedded content]

My mother in particular used to find it very comical how the crew NEVER wanted to go with Worf’s suggestions.

460 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:03:31am

B5>Star Trek.
;)

461 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:03:39am

Magnum PI in Space

462 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:04:17am

re: #459 Eclectic Cyborg

My mother in particular used to find it very comical how the crew NEVER wanted to go with Worf’s suggestions.

Sir, I suggest blowing the shit out of it.

463 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:04:26am

re: #460 Varek Raith

B5>Star Trek.
;)

B5 has Londo Molari. That alone is enough.

464 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:05:08am
465 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:05:34am

You sunk my battleship!

466 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:05:38am

Landing thrusters, landing thrusters…

467 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:06:11am

re: #462 Varek Raith

Sir, I suggest blowing the shit out of it.

He was just taking over Tasha Yar’s role of demanding that everything that might be dangerous be destroyed before they got within range of its weapons. I guess you don’t want your head of security to be a DFH.

468 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:06:43am

re: #466 Varek Raith

Landing thrusters, landing thrusters…

On yet another class M planet. :D

469 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:07:05am

re: #467 GeneJockey

activate the maguffin!

470 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:07:10am

We’ll need to don space suits.

Space suits? We don’t have any space suits on board captain.

471 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:07:53am

re: #468 Gus

On yet another class M planet. :D

Full of humanoid bipeds whose sexual organs just happen to work with ours.

472 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:08:05am

EVAs don’t exist either.

473 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:08:20am

re: #471 GeneJockey

Full of humanoid bipeds whose sexual organs just happen to work with ours.

And mini-skirts. //

474 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:08:40am

re: #467 GeneJockey

He was just taking over Tasha Yar’s role of demanding that everything that might be dangerous be destroyed before they got within range of its weapons. I guess you don’t want your head of security to be a DFH.

There was one time I REALLY thought Worf had the best idea. In “I, Borg” when they first discover the crash site they are trying to decide what to do with the only badly wounded survivor. Worf suggests killing it to make it appear he died in the crash along with the others and make sure there’s no evidence the Enterprise was ever there.

Considering the major threat the Borg presented, this would have been a very smart move. Of course, you wouldn’t have an episode if that happened so obviously Worf was denied.

475 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:08:48am

She might have orange skin and the head of a garden slug but she’s hawt!

//

476 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:09:43am

Sinclair: I’m still waiting for an explanation, gentlemen.

Ambassador Londo Mollari: Yes, and I’m prepared to give you one, Commander, as soon as the room stops spinning.

Sinclair: This station creates gravity by rotation. It never stops spinning.

Ambassador Londo Mollari: Well, you begin to see my problem.

477 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:09:49am

In terms of human-ness and maturity, DS9 was by far the best Star Trek series and, in my opinion the one that is by far the most relevant today.

478 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:10:14am

SPACE NAZIS

479 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:10:56am

re: #478 Carlos Danger

SPACE NAZIS

SPACE NAZIS MUST DIE!

[Speed metal music.]

480 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:12:01am

re: #477 Eclectic Cyborg

In terms of human-ness and maturity, DS9 was by far the best Star Trek series and, in my opinion the one that is by far the most relevant today.

Youtube Video

481 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:13:30am

re: #478 Carlos Danger

SPACE NAZIS

SPACE NAZIS ON THE MOON!!

Iron Sky.

482 Internet Tough Guy  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:14:14am

Ouch. Schumer kicks the House in the nuts.

“While I don’t want to get into details, the frameworks they each had were not that far apart. Between the president, Senate Democrats and Senate Republicans, there’s a will. We now have to find a way. We know the House won’t find that way, so all of it rests on our shoulders…Speaker Boehner can’t lead. But if the Senate leads, I believe he could follow our lead.”

483 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:16:05am
484 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:16:13am

re: #475 Gus

She might have orange skin and the head of garden slug but she’s hawt!

//

There was one episode of TOS, I think it was 3rd Season, where there was a race of people who’d done something that speeded up their metabolisms so that they moved real fast. The beautiful (of course) female leader of these people gives Kirk some of the stuff, so he speeds up. And Kirk being Kirk, nails her. Of course, they don’t explicitly SAY that. No, he pulls her into his arms and roughly kisses her. Then they cut to commercial.

After the commercial, she’s standing at the mirror coming her hair, and Kirk is sitting on the edge of the bed, pulling on his boot. Subtle!

This of course neglected to consider that friction increases as speed increases. I suspect the answer to “Do you smoke after sex?” would have been, “Yes!” that time.

485 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:16:43am

still surprised at how well some of those old Outer Limits and Twilight Zone episodes hold up even today….. although I do have to admit, it was more than a bit difficult for some of them considering the special effects budgets that they had (19.95 apparently went just as far then as it does today)

486 austin_blue  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:19:46am

Morning all. Actually, a very good morning to all of you!

We got over two months of rain last night.

I have just over 6” in the rain gauge this morning. And the really good news is that we finally got some rain to the west of us:

radar.weather.gov

That 4” blob over the Pedernales River basin should translate to north of 100,000 acre feet in Lake Travis. That’s another month of drinking water. Good.

In addition, that 6-9” rain bomb over South Austin (Yo!) is going to move a huge slug of fresh water down to Matagorda Bay, which sorely needs it. Way too saline right now.

The weather gods smiled upon us.

487 GeneJockey  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:20:24am

re: #485 piratedan

still surprised at how well some of those old Outer Limits and Twilight Zone episodes hold up even today….. although I do have to admit, it was more than a bit difficult for some of them considering the special effects budgets that they had (19.95 apparently went just as far then as it does today)

Twilight Zone did a remarkable job merely suggesting things, rather than requiring a special effect. And ultimately, the stories were about people and their reactions to the extraordinary, rather than the extraordinary itself.

488 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:24:07am

re: #487 GeneJockey

Rod Serling. The true master of the cautionary tale told through thriller/science fiction. Nobody was or is better.

489 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:25:11am

re: #488 GOPHostage#25698724

Rod Serling. The true master of the cautionary tale told through thriller/science fiction. Nobody was or is better.

I totally agree.

490 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:26:37am

Oh brother.

491 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:26:48am

re: #487 GeneJockey

Twilight Zone did a remarkable job merely suggesting things, rather than requiring a special effect. And ultimately, the stories were about people and their reactions to the extraordinary, rather than the extraordinary itself.

I agree, yeah there would be a clunker or two, rarely is there a show that hits it out of the park consistently, and considering the anthology makeup of the show, it was exceptional for dealing with concepts of death, discovery, fear, anxiety and exploring those concepts as well as prejudice, fairness and challenging our preconceived notions of what is beauty, just and necessary.

492 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:33:23am

re: #434 Carlos Danger

Has there ever been a true science fiction show then?

Science Fiction Theater

Hosted by Truman Bradley

en.m.wikipedia.org

493 Stoatly  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:37:28am

An animated film based on a true story by Iraq veteran Colby Buzzell

Brilliantly done IMO

494 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:38:57am

re: #477 Eclectic Cyborg

In terms of human-ness and maturity, DS9 was by far the best Star Trek series and, in my opinion the one that is by far the most relevant today.

I agree.

495 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:39:17am

Interesting comments.

I enjoyed Blake’s 7 as a teen enjoying how they riffed on a dark side Federation while making the Noble Rebels a bunch of thugs, murderers & thieves.

Currently watching Cowboy Bebop as I’d somehow missed it till now. Better SF than 90% of the stuff on TV.

496 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:43:15am

re: #495 William Barnett-Lewis

Interesting comments.

I enjoyed Blake’s 7 as a teen enjoying how they riffed on a dark side Federation while making the Noble Rebels a bunch of thugs, murderers & thieves.

Currently watching Cowboy Bebop as I’d somehow missed it till now. Better SF than 90% of the stuff on TV.

aye BeBop is a cut above, try and find the movie as well, worth the time. Sometimes anime can go places where others can’t, still wish that not every piece of high tech in the future has to require teenagers in order to function :-)

497 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:49:46am

What’s wrong with this headline?

Austin City Limits Fest canceled

Due to current weather conditions with flash flood warnings, the Austin City Limits Music Festival organizers have canceled the festival today. One-third of ticket price will be refunded to ticket buyers based on price paid.

498 b.d.  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:52:25am

re: #497 b.d.

What’s wrong with this headline?

I answer myself:

Single Day Tickets will no longer be available for the 2013 Festival.

499 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:53:00am

OK. Last night’s pizza? Way too much salt. Whew.

500 Aqua Obama  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:56:20am

re: #491 piratedan

I’ve got a copy of Serling’s version of the Christmas Carol story on a DVD. Haven’t watched it yet… I’ll wait until December.

It’s a TV movie directed Joseph L. Mankiewicz, which is kind of unusual in and of itself.

501 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 8:59:50am

Image: thank-god1-620x423.jpg

502 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:02:18am

re: #500 Carlos Danger

I’ve got a copy of Serling’s version of the Christmas Carol story on a DVD. Haven’t watched it yet… I’ll wait until December.

It’s a TV movie directed Joseph L. Mankiewicz, which is kind of unusual in and of itself.

I haven’t gone that far although I will admit that I picked up the entire Twilight Zone box set of old shows… may have to see if I have The Outer Limits too, if not toss it onto the Christmas wish list.

503 Stanley Sea  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:03:36am

Birther Judge banished to traffic court

Kreep, 63, was reassigned on Sept. 9 from the downtown San Diego courthouse to a Kearny Mesa facility that handles traffic offenses and small claims.

That he was elected to begin with was terrifying.

504 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:04:32am

re: #444 Killgore Trout

I should note that Moffat is the better showrunner to Davies. And the fact that it is now apparent the Moffat does play a long game.

His big thing, which has been asking who the Doctor is, was first brought up during The Girl in the Fireplace. That was in Series 2, and the episode happened 7 years ago.

This is why I think the person who gave Clara the helpline to the Doctor is Sally Sparrow.

The only thing that worries me about the 50th is the character of Rose Tyler. She was an extremely selfish and jealous character that is not all that bright.

Unfortunately, when I went to Norman last month, I met people who said Rose Tyler is an example of Feminism. I died a bit inside. Also, they fit the stereotype of being a bunch of unthinking teeny-boppers, and were unfortunately big fans of slash stuff.

505 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:04:59am

re: #503 Stanley Sea

Birther Judge banished to traffic court

That he was elected to begin with was terrifying.

judge’s name must be another ironic example of Truth in Advertising

506 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:05:37am

re: #501 Gus

They are both obnoxious.

Oh, and I caught on to your little thing there. And now you have a big post to deal with as punishment. :P

507 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:07:06am

Well this is an unwelcome development. I’d really like nothing in my home to be anything like Congress. Well I have this little Sony home theater system. It seems both the Congress and my system need a new speaker.

508 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:12:00am

re: #504 ProTARDISLiberal

Also, I should note that Davies gave us one of the worst Doctor Who stories in history.

Love and Monsters

509 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:16:30am

re: #506 ProTARDISLiberal

They are both obnoxious.

Oh, and I caught on to your little thing there. And now you have a big post to deal with as punishment. :P

People that sit on the fence never touch the ground.

510 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:17:39am

Scopes: I don’t know if we should take this to trial. Don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings.

//

511 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:20:12am
512 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:21:25am

Sorry but play write and comedian Julia Sweeney is not the same as Ken Ham and Answers in Genesis.

513 Gus  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:21:43am

Anywho, that’s my cue to take a break from here.

514 Bear  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:23:41am

re: #513 Gus

Go
//

515 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:25:07am
“Here’s what I’m worried about a deal coming out of the Senate, that a majority of Republicans can’t vote for in the House, that really does compromise Speaker Boehner’s leadership,” Graham said. “And after all this mess is over, do we really want to compromise John Boehner as leader of the House? I don’t think so.”

Senator Lindsey Graham

Yes, by all means, let’s make sure that we don’t throw Speaker Boehner under the bus while he drives the country and possibly the world financial markets into the volcano…. the proprieties must be observed while you Dems attempt to pull the country’s nads out of the fire that we built.

516 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:30:14am

Heh. Erick, Son of Erick is annoyed with Robert Costa from NRO:

517 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:31:11am

re: #427 b.d.

I loathe that smarmy David Gregory. Why do I continue to turn on that show?

Got the Stooges on here. Good fun before bedtime.

518 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:33:29am

I keep getting the feeling Boehner is on his way out and they’re using the exit to extract flesh.

519 darthstar  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:39:43am
520 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:42:36am

re: #518 Amory Blaine

I keep getting the feeling Boehner is on his way out and they’re using the exit to extract flesh.

And the more I hear nattering on about the Senate Dems pushing for dismantling the sequester, the more I think they’ve upped the hardball to force clean funding and debt limit bills for a year on the GOP. They know the GOP will never agree to killing the sequester cuts, but if they use it as a way to demand an end to all this shit for a year instead of the House GOP’s laughable six week deadline or the Senate GOP’s six months, then so much the better.

521 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:49:12am

re: #505 piratedan

judge’s name must be another ironic example of Truth in Advertising

Haha, I voted for him to be in “no court at all”.

522 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:55:17am

OMFG, it’s raining again.

523 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:56:06am

Is this a ‘bagger protest? If they’re protesting POTUS, surely it must be.


I mean, why the WH and not Congress?

524 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 9:56:13am

It’s a mess and will take years to clean up/ return to “normal’, but thank God casualties were at a minimum thanks to early warning, mass evacuations and better planning after the last (1999) Cyclone

ca.news.yahoo.com

525 piratedan  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:00:41am

re: #523 Justanotherhuman

they’re just following the lead from those

patriots

over at Fox.

526 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:03:36am

re: #523 Justanotherhuman

I mean, why the WH and not Congress?

Because evil tyrant that closed the WW2 Memorial and the Grand Canyon. Duh.

527 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:03:42am

re: #523 Justanotherhuman

And the solutions just are not difficult at all. Not complex. Just do any of these few administrative changes in procedure at Congress…

528 blueraven  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:04:28am

re: #520 Lidane

And the more I hear nattering on about the Senate Dems pushing for dismantling the sequester, the more I think they’ve upped the hardball to force clean funding and debt limit bills for a year on the GOP. They know the GOP will never agree to killing the sequester cuts, but if they use it as a way to demand an end to all this shit for a year instead of the House GOP’s laughable six week deadline or the Senate GOP’s six months, then so much the better.

I think you are right and it is a way to “give” the republicans something. I suspect they will relent on the BCA funding, at least until a real budget deal can be worked out.
Paraphrasing Sun Tzu …always leave the enemy an escape route.

529 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:07:37am
530 wrenchwench  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:08:08am

Now there’s an escape route.

531 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:08:58am

re: #524 sattv4u2

It’s a mess and will take years to clean up/ return to “normal’, but thank God casualties were at a minimum thanks to early warning, mass evacuations and better planning after the last (1999) Cyclone

ca.news.yahoo.com

Indeed.

532 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:10:20am

re: #529 wrenchwench

[Embedded content]

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
- Fry

533 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:14:04am

Of course, it’s the usual suspects.

Palin [I’m Not Getting Enough Attention Lately], Cruz [Not to Be Outdone by Her] critical of Obama at World War II memorial
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, speak to a crowd of military vets Sunday in Washington, D.C.

nbcnews.com

534 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:15:25am

re: #414 wheat-dogghazi

“If you were any other man, I would kill you where you stand!”
— Worf to Picard.

Worf and the Klingons of TNG remind me of Larry Niven’s kzinti found in Ringworld. Centuries of rash warfare has gradually eliminated the most aggressive types from the gene pool. I’m sure that no coincidence.

That was the puppeter’s doing. They made sure kzinti encountered humans because humans could beat them every time. Eventually the kzinti learned a little restraint.

On topic of ST, there’s only one novel set in that universe I like: The Final Reflection. I wrote a review at Goodreads explaining why I liked it so much.

But my favorite SF show is and always be Babylon 5.

535 Varek Raith  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:16:16am

Youtube Video

536 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:25:26am
537 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:26:40am

re: #449 Gus

Come to think of it the same is true with war movies. Really good ones are rare.

Favorites:

Stalingrad. A movie that did not pull punches. This is typical of the battle scenes. They really worked hard to keep it accurate. Note: Do not watch if you’ve got a weak stomach.

The first twenty odd minutes of Saving Private Ryan, although people give me that look when I tell them that part of the battle went on about three times as long as the whole movie.

Band of Brothers was outstanding.

538 Amory Blaine  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:27:17am

So much stuff isn’t getting done and fueling the park and memorial fury is a top priority . I’ve underestimated how bad the press is getting.

539 blueraven  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:28:06am

re: #533 Justanotherhuman

Of course, it’s the usual suspects.

Palin [I’m Not Getting Enough Attention Lately], Cruz [Not to Be Outdone by Her] critical of Obama at World War II memorial
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin and Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, speak to a crowd of military vets Sunday in Washington, D.C.

nbcnews.com

Billed as the Million Vet March…looks like a few hundred tea party types. I saw quite a few Confederate and Gadsden flags in the crowd.

540 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:37:26am

re: #537 Romantic Heretic

Favorites:

Stalingrad. A movie that did not pull punches. This is typical of the battle scenes. They really worked hard to keep it accurate. Note: Do not watch if you’ve got a weak stomach.

The first twenty odd minutes of Saving Private Ryan, although people give me that look when I tell them that part of the battle went on about three times as long as the whole movie.

Band of Brothers was outstanding.

Come And See.

One of the most relentless war films of all time; unflinchingly brutal. Makes most war films look like they were produced by the Disney Corporation.

imdb.com

541 HoosierHoops  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:38:31am

I never thought I would see our Government become completely dysfunctional in my lifetime. Both sides are talking past each other.
I want to take both sides and knock some sense into them.

542 sattv4u2  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:45:06am

re: #541 HoosierHoops

I never thought I would see our Government become completely dysfunctional in my lifetime. Both sides are talking past each other.
I want to take both sides and knock some sense into them.

Sadly, I have watched the side “out” of “power” get worse and worse since the start of the Nixon investigations. ( I was born during the Eisenhower years)

543 Snarknado!  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:48:04am

re: #481 Dr Lizardo

SPACE NAZIS ON THE MOON!!

Iron Sky.

That was a Robert Heinlein novel.

544 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:49:33am

re: #543 Snarknado!

That was a Robert Heinlein novel.

And also a Finnish-German sci-fi comedy film from 2012.

en.wikipedia.org

545 Lidane  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 10:50:48am

re: #544 Dr Lizardo

And also a Finnish-German sci-fi comedy film from 2012.

en.wikipedia.org

I saw that. I thought it was cheesy fun.

546 Snarknado!  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:10:57am

re: #540 Dr Lizardo

Come And See.

One of the most relentless war films of all time; unflinchingly brutal. Makes most war films look like they were produced by the Disney Corporation.

imdb.com

That, yes. You won’t need to watch it a second time — it burns itself into your brain the first time.

547 Dr Lizardo  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:14:42am

re: #546 Snarknado!

That, yes. You won’t need to watch it a second time — it burns itself into your brain the first time.

That’s the truth.

548 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:19:41am
Late in the evening on September 30, 2013, the House Rules Committee Republicans changed the Rules of the House so that the ONLY Member allowed to call up the Senate’s clean CR for a vote was Majority Leader Eric Cantor or his designee — all but guaranteeing the government would shut down a few hours later and would stay shut down. Previously, any Member would have had the right to bring the CR up for a vote. Democracy has been suspended in the House of Representatives.

Youtube Video

??????

549 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 11:21:35am

re: #541 HoosierHoops

I never thought I would see our Government become completely dysfunctional in my lifetime. Both sides are talking past each other.
I want to take both sides and knock some sense into them.

To be fair, the majority of government works. It’s just those few elected individuals in the Capital building that are dysfunctional. The majority —the rank ‘n file civil servant does his/her job just fine.

550 chadu  Sun, Oct 13, 2013 12:55:18pm

re: #534 Romantic Heretic

On topic of ST, there’s only one novel set in that universe I like: The Final Reflection. I wrote a review at Goodreads explaining why I liked it so much.

But my favorite SF show is and always be Babylon 5.

Read JMF’s How Much for Just the Planet?, too.

Another Lurker (and Browncoat) here.


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