The Republicans Who Caused the Government Shutdown

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The Atlantic has a helpful rundown of 32 Republicans Who Caused the Government Shutdown. First on the list:

Representative: Justin Amash

Home District: Grand Rapids, Michigan

Quoted: “President Obama and Senator Reid refuse to negotiate over giving regular Americans the same breaks they give themselves, government workers, and big business.”

And lest we forget, Rep. Justin Amash was strongly endorsed by none other than pseudo-liberal activist Glenn Greenwald, who called Amash a “GOP dissident.” Right.

In fact, Amash and Greenwald had quite a mutual admiration society going on: Justin Amash:

Must-read piece by Glenn Greenwald. Whichever party controls the White House, the two things you can count on are the erosion of civil liberties and hypocrisy.

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372 comments
1 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 10:55:08am

I blame all the Republicans for not keeping their rabid dogs in check.

2 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 10:55:29am

And Amash’s challenger’s problem with him is that he’s not right wing enough.

3 b.d.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 10:57:33am

Man, I can hardly wait for GreenwaldBay/Daily DudeBro to premeire so we can get some Justin Amash sideboob shots.

4 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 10:57:52am

thinkprogress.org
Principles//

5 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 10:58:13am

Republican can’t figure out why government shutdown shut down government parks

During a joint committee hearing, the Republican congressman asked NPS Director Jonathan Jarvis why protesters associated with Occupy Wall Street were allowed to camp in McPherson Square in 2011 but World War II veterans were not allowed to visit open-air monuments amid the government shutdown.

Jarvis told Gowdy that D.C. parks and memorials must close during a shutdown under the Anti-deficiency Act, which prohibits federal employees from spending money that has not been authorized by Congress.

But Gowdy continued to ask for a specific statute that required the government to close memorials during a government shutdown.

6 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:00:24am

Over in crazy Freeper-land (oxymoron), they are calling for revolt, posting pictures of confederate flags, kissing Rush’s ass and trying to get Texas to seceed. It is like watching Granpa Simpson after he doubled his dose of Geritol…it angries up the blood!

7 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:00:26am
8 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:00:57am

re: #3 b.d.

Man, I can hardly wait for GreenwaldBay/Daily DudeBro to premeire so we can get some Justin Amash sideboob shots.

Speaking of which…

OMIDYAR, PIERRE
LOS GATOS, CA 95032
EXECUTIVE

BUSH, GEORGE W
VIA BUSH FOR PRESIDENT INC.
07/08/1999 $1000.00

99034852047

9 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:01:02am

re: #5 Kragar

Republican can’t figure out why government shutdown shut down government parks

Yet another thing that makes you just want to give up.

10 Youse  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:01:59am

So I guess we will now hear the voices of GOP candidates who “didn’t agree” and thought “it was out of line” to try and implode the economy? Voices of reason stepping up and saying that the attacks on women and gays and workers and immigrants and the EPA and the DER was all a mistake? The ACA is a good thing?
Right. Next up with the Clown Cavalcade is to try and impeach Obama.

11 Dr. Matt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:02:07am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

thinkprogress.org
Principles//

Ted Cruz has refined the definition of a ‘douche bag’.

12 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:03:16am

GOP vs Tea Party

Youtube Video

13 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:03:36am

re: #11 Dr. Matt

Ted Cruz has refined the definition of a ‘douche bag’.

Douchebag told Ted Cruz, “Ted, you’re being a douche.”

14 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:04:36am

You know if the GOP wants to have an internal civil war. Fine, guys. If you want to from being a somewhat nutty right wing party to an extremely nutty right wing party. Fine by me but don’t fuck over the American people in the crossfire.

15 Mattand  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:05:00am

Ahhh…

Let the flow of sweet, delicious wingnut tears begin.

16 Ian G.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:07:03am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

thinkprogress.org
Principles//

You know, this might blow up in his face. I’m sure big business, sweating the possible deliberate scuttling of the US and world economies by this shitstain, are going to be looking to “fundraise” for someone to challenge Cruz in 2018.

17 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:08:32am
18 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:09:03am

Robertson: Tea Party Politicians Need To ‘Grow Up’

Today, for the second time this week, the televangelist criticized Republicans for staking out such an extreme position that they forced a government shutdown and threatening the country with a default. Robertson said that while he loves the Tea Party, he thinks the movement’s leaders need to “grow up and work to make the system successful.”

“Unfortunately, the Tea Party is not going along and if they don’t go along in another few hours our government defaults and that is a catastrophic thing for the finances for this great nation,” Robertson said. “So what’s happened is, instead of John Boehner being a hero and leading a vast army, he is now demoralized, unable to lead his troops and the game has gone back to the Senate.”

19 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:09:18am

re: #16 Ian G.

Short attention span theater. Someone with deep pockets will come up with the money to see the campaign through.

That and Cruz will have enough rubes thinking that what he did was A number 1. That’s he’s King of the Hill. Top of the Heap.

Duke of New York. Oh wait…

20 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:10:11am
21 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:02am

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Canada is destroying his birth certificate as we speak

22 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:03am

Hagee: ‘We Are A Pagan Nation Without Shame’

We are approaching peak buttburtz

23 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:07am

re: #17 Lidane

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If their party were more inclusive, they might be able to blame somebody other than white middleaged men. But they don’t have enough blacks, women, Juice, or Swarthy Foreigners for proper scapegoating.

24 ContraryLemming  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:15am

Not sure how this is going to play out - if there are going to be any adults in the room who see their campaign contributions from Big Money Donors potentially drying up if they don’t get their act together … or if instead, this will play into the hysterical victim mentality of the Deep South/Tea Party, where they use their defeat as justification for further deranged actions.

50/50 either way.

25 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:17am

re: #18 Kragar

Robertson: Tea Party Politicians Need To ‘Grow Up’

The politician’s son in him is talking here but I’ll say if Pat Robertson thinks your act is immature, you’ve got shit loads of a problems. It’s almost like the time the KKK distanced themselves from the Phelps clan.

26 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:43am
27 BroncD  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:51am

I like when Glenn tries to use the language of actual political oppression and superimpose it onto his latest BFF.
Example: “dissident”

28 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:52am

re: #22 Kragar

Hagee: ‘We Are A Pagan Nation Without Shame’

We are approaching peak buttburtz

Better a pagan nation than your ideal nation you sick son of a bitch.

29 brennant  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:11:53am

re: #20 Gus

And their name is Club for Growth? lol.

30 Youse  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:12:09am

re: #15 Mattand

Ahhh…

Let the flow of sweet, delicious wingnut tears begin.

So now Rush throws them under the bus. Sweeter than sweet. Of course the next batch of GOP hopefuls will have to come with armbands for Rush to call them “conservative enough.” Filth calling failure on the filth.

31 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:12:22am

re: #22 Kragar

Hagee: ‘We Are A Pagan Nation Without Shame’

We are approaching peak buttburtz

He says this like it’s a bad thing…

32 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:12:31am

re: #29 brennant

And their name is Club for Growth? lol.

NewSpeak.

33 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:13:26am

re: #32 Assless ChapJockey

NewSpeak.

Things are so much easier when you can ascribe whatever meaning you want to onto words and then get pissy when people call you on it!

34 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:13:46am

Beck: If We Don’t Stop Calling Ted Cruz & Mike Lee ‘Extremists,’ It’ll Give Rise To A Nazi-Style Party In America

“I guarantee you,” Beck said, “if we don’t wake up, if we don’t stop calling people like Mike Lee and Ted Cruz extremists, you are going to see a Nazi-style party in this country.”

Saying that the true Right is total anarchy and the true Left is big government Republicans like Mitch McConnell, Beck declared that “the real center of this country is Mike Lee; he is a reasonable man”:

35 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:13:49am
36 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:14:08am

WTFITS

37 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:14:15am

“Living With Your Emotionally Immature Congress Member, A Guide”

on sale now. ‘living with your sociopathic dittohead neighbor” not yet available

38 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:14:44am
39 Youse  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:14:54am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka
Bad drugs. Lots of bad drugs.

40 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:15:18am

re: #34 Kragar

LOLOLOLOL

Mitch McConnell is the true left?

LOLOLOLOL.

Someone needs to let the doctor know that Beck’s gone off his meds again.

41 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:15:36am

re: #34 Kragar

Beck: If We Don’t Stop Calling Ted Cruz & Mike Lee ‘Extremists,’ It’ll Give Rise To A Nazi-Style Party In America

Hey Glenn, stop crying Nazis all the fucking time you fucking fuckwad. You don’t know a damn thing about the Nazis except that you don’t like them and you know what’s great, 99.9% of us hate Nazis too but we don’t feel the need to liken everyone who doesn’t share our worldview to them you stupid fuck.

42 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:16:08am

re: #34 Kragar

Beck: If We Don’t Stop Calling Ted Cruz & Mike Lee ‘Extremists,’ It’ll Give Rise To A Nazi-Style Party In America

He has that cause/effect thing backwards.

43 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:16:15am

Diversion…

44 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:16:35am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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This sadly was inevitable and it’s going to be the excuse de jour when Ken Cuccinnelli is beaten. They’re already pissed that he ran away from Ted Cruz and didn’t strongly defend his running mate’s lunacy.

45 brennant  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:16:53am

re: #43 Gus

Diversion…

[eats cocaine cookie] What?

46 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:17:10am

re: #45 brennant

[eats cocaine cookie] What?

nom nom nom.

47 Ian G.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:17:16am

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: anyone who seriously claims the Obama administration is like Nazism should be be beaten over the head with the cane of a Holocaust survivor.

48 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:17:21am

They hate Obama with all their intellect can offer….


cheezburger.com

49 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:17:22am

re: #34 Kragar

Beck: If We Don’t Stop Calling Ted Cruz & Mike Lee ‘Extremists,’ It’ll Give Rise To A Nazi-Style Party In America

How does that even make sense?

Wait - silly question. Sorry.

50 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:17:56am

Teh crayzee just goes on and on

51 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:18:04am

re: #25 HappyWarrior

The politician’s son in him is talking here but I’ll say if Pat Robertson thinks your act is immature, you’ve got shit loads of a problems. It’s almost like the time the KKK distanced themselves from the Phelps clan.

Heh. Pretty much sums it up.

Even outright loons like the KKK and Robertson recognize when an apocalyptic cult is actually more dangerous than they are.

52 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:18:10am

Houston Chronicle regrets endorsing Cruz, worried about Dewhurst

53 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:18:34am

re: #39 nines09

Bad drugs. Lots of bad drugs.

They are already asking which hand held the dagger that stabbed the GOP in the back…

You should know, VB…

54 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:18:37am

re: #47 Ian G.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: anyone who seriously claims the Obama administration is like Nazism should be be beaten over the head with the cane of a Holocaust survivor.

The original Vicious Babushka:

55 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:19:08am

re: #52 Kragar

Houston Chronicle regrets endorsing Cruz, worried about Dewhurst

They should worry about Abbott too, since he’s just as batshit as those two clowns.

56 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:19:12am

Because one thing the GOP demonstrated this week was a willingness to cow to 1/5th of their base.


A red-state scorecard for votes to keep government open? Go for it Erick.

57 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:19:24am

re: #48 GOPHostage#25698724

They hate Obama with all their intellect can offer….

cheezburger.com

We are all his pupals.

58 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:19:50am
If you wanna hang out youve got to take her out; Oreos
If you wanna get down, down on the ground; Oreos
She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t lie; Oreos

If you got bad news, you wanna kick them blues; Oreos
When your day is done and you wanna run; Oreos
She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t lie; Oreos

If your thing is gone and you wanna ride on; Oreos
Don’t forget this fact, you can’t get it back; Oreos
She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t lie; Oreos

She don’t lie, she don’t lie, she don’t lie; Oreos

It had to be done.

59 b.d.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:19:57am

re: #45 brennant

[eats cocaine cookie] What?

What’s that black stuff on your nose?

60 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:20:00am

MOAR CRAYZIE

61 Ian G.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:20:02am

re: #50 Vicious Babushka

Teh crayzee just goes on and on

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You know what Obama “refusing to negotiate” would look like?

It would be him threatening to veto any debt limit increase and/or CR unless the GOP Congress agreed to single-payer healthcare, 90% marginal tax rates on the upper 10% of income earners, and the banning of coal as a power source.

THAT would be the left-wing equivalent of what the GOP just tried.

62 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:20:30am

LOL TYRRANY

63 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:20:43am
64 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:21:13am

re: #62 Vicious Babushka

Dissident spelling!

65 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:21:16am

re: #61 Ian G.

You know what Obama “refusing to negotiate” would look like?

It would be him threatening to veto any debt limit increase and/or CR unless the GOP Congress agreed to single-payer healthcare, 90% marginal tax rates on the upper 10% of income earners, and the banning of coal as a power source.

THAT would be the left-wing equivalent of what the GOP just tried.

And registration of all privately-owned firearms.

66 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:21:46am

re: #38 Charles Johnson

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If the TP’ers decide they weren’t ‘conservative enough’, I wonder if they’ll react like Daystrom’s M-5 computer in that ST:TOS episode, “The Ultimate Computer”?

That would be an immensely satisfying outcome.

67 b.d.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:21:55am

Can we open the FEMA Camps yet?

68 HappyWarrior  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:22:12am

re: #47 Ian G.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: anyone who seriously claims the Obama administration is like Nazism should be be beaten over the head with the cane of a Holocaust survivor.

Or really any dictatorship. I mean I get it, they don’t like Obama If this were truly a blood thirsty dictatorship, we wouldn’t see all the ridiculous crap we see on twitter from these demented fools.

69 S'latch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:22:27am

32 sore losers.

70 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:22:55am

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

MOAR CRAYZIE

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On the one hand, they claim Obama WANTS a default so he can declare Martial Law and take over everything.

On the other they’re mad that they weren’t able to trigger a default.

I’m waiting for someone on the right to put 2 and 2 together, and claim that they cleverly defeated Obama’s cunning World Domination plan by agreeing to raise the debt ceiling.

71 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:23:05am
72 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:23:19am
73 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:23:21am
74 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:24:02am

Via Twitters, the “Obama STOLD the election” is still a thing:

75 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:24:52am

re: #71 Kragar

Kragar has gone to the darkside. Joined Twitters.

76 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:25:12am

re: #74 Bulworth

Via Twitters, the “Obama STOLD the election” is still a thing:

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The lack of evidence IS the evidence!

77 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:25:47am

re: #71 Kragar

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…

Ex-US Navy SEAL Ben Smith joins Fox News and drops a bombshell on the US government by revealing that the government ITSELF is CREATING the conditions necessary to impose martial law here in America. This is a must watch video for those who feel martial law is merely believed by conspiracy theorists. Veterans and US Navy SEALS see the same thing!

Wut?

78 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:26:02am

re: #74 Bulworth

Via Twitters, the “Obama STOLD the election” is still a thing:

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TRUE. FACT. LOOK IT UP YOURSELF.

79 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:26:02am

re: #75 Bulworth

Kragar has gone to the darkside. Joined Twitters.

It was those damn server outages last week. I wanted to know when LGF would be back up and it snowballed from there.

80 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:26:20am
81 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:26:38am

re: #76 Kragar

The lack of evidence IS the evidence!

DON’T EXPECT ME TO DO ANY RESEARCH TO BACK UP ANY OF THE SHIT I POST ON TEH TWITTERS!!!11!!!! U DO MY HOMEWORK 4 ME!!!!1!!!!!

82 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:26:53am


The purge will begin. Except it’s the GOP eating their own, going after those who aren’t true believers, or something like that.

That big tent is about to get a whole lot smaller if that’s their takeaway. But it will be their takeaway, just as surely they decided that the reason they lost in 2012 was that they didn’t have a sufficiently conservative candidate, and that if only Romney were more conservative he’d be in the WH.

No true conservative…. No true tea party… pick your poison, because the GOP is sucking it all down.

83 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:27:03am

re: #79 Kragar

It was those damn server outages last week. I wanted to know when LGF would be back up and it snowballed from there.

sURE, BLAME THE INNOCENT HAMSTERS…

Ooops, forgot the capslock.

84 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:27:13am

re: #77 Gus

…

Wut?

Because the Venn diagram of conspiracy theorists and veterans/SEALS has NO OVERLAP! IT MUST BE TRUE!

85 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:27:16am

Almost like Parody.


86 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:27:17am

re: #76 Kragar

The lack of evidence IS the evidence!

That’s how clever they are!

I seriously plan to tell the next wingnut I hear or read who complains that ‘Obama stole the election’ but can’t produce any proof that this indicates we’re much, much smarter than they are, and thus we’re their natural rulers.

87 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:28:05am

re: #77 Gus

…

Wut?

Just wait for the next major natural and/or man-made disaster to hit: one that requires declaring martial law and calling out the National Guard to restore order, and FEMA to maintain vital services and inftrastructure.

That will be seen as final proof that Obama is making his long-awaited move and the wingnuts will start locking and loading…it could get really ugly…

88 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:28:10am
89 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:29:05am

re: #81 Vicious Babushka

DON’T EXPECT ME TO DO ANY RESEARCH TO BACK UP ANY OF THE SHIT I POST ON TEH TWITTERS!!!11!!!! U DO MY HOMEWORK 4 ME!!!!1!!!!!

I actually explained to a guy last week how he could check a picture using google images, just to prove its date, because he insisted it was from the “Trucker rally” and a couple people were pointing out it was from 2009.

He asked “WHY?”

90 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:29:54am

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

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Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. This is like Boehner stealing an ashtray from the White House and claiming that was his plan all along.

91 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:29:59am
92 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:08am

re: #89 Kragar

I actually explained to a guy last week how he could check a picture using google images, just to prove its date, because he insisted it was from the “Trucker rally” and a couple people were pointing out it was from 2009.

He asked “WHY?”

Yeah I remember that guy, I think he was just a troll, not a true wingnut.

93 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:10am

re: #85 Bulworth

Almost like Parody.

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Even the website in her profile looks like parody. ‘Lets Roll America’? No punctuation….

94 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:44am

re: #84 klys

Because the Venn diagram of conspiracy theorists and veterans/SEALS has NO OVERLAP! IT MUST BE TRUE!

Yep. A) It must be true because he’s a former Navy SEAL and B) you can’t make fun out of him because he’s a former Navy SEAL. It’s a trap! //

95 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:47am
96 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:53am

re: #91 Lidane

HAHAHAHAHA…

oh wait, he’s serious? Fuck that shit.

97 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:30:57am

re: #91 Lidane

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Next up, Holocaust victims were the REAL Nazis.

98 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:31:23am

re: #94 Gus

Yep. A) It must be true because he’s a former Navy SEAL and B) you can’t make fun out of him because he’s a former Navy SEAL. It’s a trap! //

Thank goodness it’s not TARP! That’d be the real danger.

///

99 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:32:06am

re: #65 Vicious Babushka

And registration of all privately-owned firearms.

Registration, or surrender thereof to government authorities for “safe keeping”?

100 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:32:07am
101 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:32:10am

re: #96 klys

HAHAHAHAHA…

oh wait, he’s serious? Fuck that shit.

DARVO is very big with the Tea Party.

This stupid meme over and over==>HURR HURR DEMOCRATZ IS TEH REAL RACISTS!!!111 DEMOCRATS WAS PRO SLAVERY!!!!1!!!

102 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:32:35am

re: #82 lawhawk

Sweet Jesus, these loons are actually going for the “stabbed in the back” crap?

103 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:34:18am

Perhaps the delay in getting the Senate vote going is they need time to pound into the heads of Cruz, Lee, Graham, and other Senate wingnuts that there will be no objections during unanimous consent motion or they WILL pay dearly.

104 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:34:47am

re: #102 William Barnett-Lewis

Sweet Jesus, these loons are actually going for the “stabbed in the back” crap?

Are you surprised? Every defeat is an excuse for further distillation of the Right. They’ve already jettisoned most of their own historical leaders, keeping only Zombie Reagan as a figurehead.

105 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:35:21am

PLEASE PROCEED TEA PARTY

106 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:35:29am

re: #102 William Barnett-Lewis

Sweet Jesus, these loons are actually going for the “stabbed in the back” crap?

We all know who has traditionally played that role in history, don’t we?

107 DisturbedEma  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:35:30am

re: #87 Sol Berdinowitz

Good thing that whole climate change stuff leading to extreme weather is a hoax so we don’t have to worry…oh wait…shit… dammit!

108 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:35:32am

Idiot Issa holding hearings on the Republican government shutdown & National Parks. Basically he is telling the director they should have a plan to mitigate damages from a shutdown.

Fuck you Issa

Watching a bit on C-SPAN…it is sickening!

What a spectacle of Republican decadent behavior.

109 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:36:35am

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

We all know who has traditionally played that role in history, don’t we?

Those who think too much.
/

110 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:37:02am

re: #108 blueraven

Idiot Issa holding hearings on the Republican government shutdown & National Parks. Basically he is telling the director they should have a plan to mitigate damages from a shutdown.

Fuck you Issa

Watching a bit on C-SPAN…it is sickening!

What a spectacle of Republican decadent behavior.

Yeah, here’s the plan - we don’t let anyone into the parks when we’re unable to pay anyone to police them, so that we don’t end up with people getting lost, or hurt, or dead, with nobody there to find them or protect them.

111 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:37:32am

Still waiting for the fat lady to sing.

112 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:37:43am

re: #108 blueraven

Idiot Issa holding hearings on the Republican government shutdown & National Parks. Basically he is telling the director they should have a plan to mitigate damages from a shutdown.

Fuck you Issa

Watching a bit on C-SPAN…it is sickening!

What a spectacle of Republican decadent behavior.

I have a mitigation plan.

Get rid of the GOP.

Problem solved.

113 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:37:47am

re: #110 Assless ChapJockey

Yeah, here’s the plan - we don’t let anyone into the parks when we’re unable to pay anyone to police them, so that we don’t end up with people getting lost, or hurt, or dead, with nobody there to find them or protect them.

Here’s a plan: don’t allow the government to be shut down!

114 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:37:49am

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

We all know who has traditionally played that role in history, don’t we?

There goes Eric Cantor’s chance at the Speakership!

115 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:38:34am

re: #108 blueraven

Idiot Issa holding hearings on the Republican government shutdown & National Parks. Basically he is telling the director they should have a plan to mitigate damages from a shutdown.

Fuck you Issa

Watching a bit on C-SPAN…it is sickening!

What a spectacle of Republican decadent behavior.

Here’s the plan: We kill the Batman.

/(geek moment)

116 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:38:37am

re: #113 Sol Berdinowitz

Here’s a plan: don’t allow the government to be shut down!

Well, yeah. There’s that.

117 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:39:24am

re: #116 Assless ChapJockey

Well, yeah. There’s that.

But then again, there is a health-care law to be stopped…

maybe next time around.

118 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:39:44am

re: #115 Targetpractice

Here’s the plan: We kill the Batman.

/(geek moment)

“I’m going to make this pencil disappear…”

119 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:40:15am

re: #102 William Barnett-Lewis

Sweet Jesus, these loons are actually going for the “stabbed in the back” crap?

Of course. The conservative playbook has only old material in it.

They still need to find their scapegoat, however. The only reason Jews are not available for this role is because the Holocaust has not been forgotten (and hopefully will never be forgotten).

120 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:41:31am

re: #116 Assless ChapJockey

Well, yeah. There’s that.

That would have been the best, but somewhat snarky, response. Basically ask Issa what the proper mitigation would be when you’re not allowed to carry over budget funds from year to year, and the section of government responsible for spending resolutions refuses to extend funding?

Not to mention the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” moment that would occur when some department does start keeping a budgetary fund for “when government shut-downs occur”.

121 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:41:36am

re: #115 Targetpractice

Here’s the plan: We kill the Batman.

/(geek moment)

We need to make sure there’s no water for rehydrating any of the Republicans world leaders.

/

122 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:42:26am

drudgereport.com

123 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:42:47am

You know, when the parks open again, maybe one of the new attractions would be to build some stocks and put some of these Tea Baggers in them for some good ol’ fashioned public shaming. A nice row of them around the reflecting pool just down from the Capitol steps would be a good start.

124 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:42:54am

Darrell, there is a plan for what to do in a shutdown, they were actually drawn up back in ‘81, after two shutdowns where the government kept running. It’s where the idea of “essential” and “non-essential” came from in the event of shutdowns. Thing is, those plans haven’t been updated in decades for a simple reason: There’s been no long-term shutdown like this since ‘96. And yes, before you say it, in ‘96 there were parks and monuments closed down back then too.

125 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:43:19am

re: #105 Vicious Babushka

PLEASE PROCEED TEA PARTY

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It basically was a ‘Who was the most useless fucker?’ contest, and the Tea Party rewards the winners.

126 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:43:37am

re: #120 Feline Fearless Leader

That would have been the best, but somewhat snarky, response. Basically ask Issa what the proper mitigation would be when you’re not allowed to carry over budget funds from year to year, and the section of government responsible for spending resolutions refuses to extend funding?

Not to mention the “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” moment that would occur when some department does start keeping a budgetary fund for “when government shut-downs occur”.

Federal agencies amassing large rainy day funds is the kind of thing that Congress has every right to object to.

127 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:44:01am

re: #91 Lidane

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Youtube Video

128 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:44:31am

re: #126 EPR-radar

Federal agencies amassing large rainy day funds is the kind of thing that Congress has every right to object to.

Even while creating the conditions that would necessitate it, and then criticizing them for not having done so.

129 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:44:51am

re: #126 EPR-radar

Federal agencies amassing large rainy day funds is the kind of thing that Congress has every right to object to.

Not only object to, but divert to other departments when it comes time to do things like paper over cuts made elsewhere.

130 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:44:51am
131 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:45:05am

HURR HURR TEH TEA PARTY HAS ALL TEH JRRBZ. THEIR IS NO LIBRUL WHO HAS A REAL JRRB THEY ALL STAYS HOME ON WELFARE AN FOOD STAMPS AN A’VOTIN FOR OBAMA ALL TEH DAY CAUSE HE GIVEN EM FREE STUFFS!!!!11!!! BUT WE IS HARD WURKERZ PROUD OF A HARD DAYZ WURK AT TEH WALMARTS!!!!!1!!!!

132 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:45:39am

re: #130 Kragar

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LOLOLOL

Cretins.

133 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:46:02am

re: #108 blueraven

Arsonist sez what?

134 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:46:05am

re: #130 Kragar

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Even in defeat, they still don’t get it:

“We never asked for a full repeal of Obamacare because we can’t get that,” he said. “We have voted on a full repeal of Obamacare that the Senate has rejected every single time. But what we were asking for, our position from the beginning, was exchanging a one-year CR for a one-year delay of Obamacare. That was something we thought both sides were giving on something.”

135 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:46:08am

re: #108 blueraven

Idiot Issa holding hearings on the Republican government shutdown & National Parks. Basically he is telling the director they should have a plan to mitigate damages from a shutdown.

Fuck you Issa

Watching a bit on C-SPAN…it is sickening!

What a spectacle of Republican decadent behavior.

The National Labs in New Mexico planned their funds to be able to continue to function for a while. They’re going to shut down tomorrow….

136 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:46:14am

re: #130 Kragar

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They should sue for definition of character.

137 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:46:57am

re: #134 Targetpractice

Even in defeat, they still don’t get it:

Lol.

139 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:49:27am

re: #138 Varek Raith

A separate reality, he has.

140 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:49:48am

I just sent a nice email to the Heritage Foundation. I’m doing a bit of study on them and their originally creating the “mandate” in the ACA. I have it loaded with some nice pointed questions but did my best to hide any party affiliation, animosity, negativity or the like. Actually I made it with a Constitutional and Christian approach. Let’s play their game and see what they might say. Hopefully they will respond.

141 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:50:11am
142 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:51:36am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Coup. It doesn’t mean what Levin thinks it means. And he knows it. But doesn’t care.

143 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:52:02am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Levin Says Obama Orchestrated Shutdown As Part Of A Coup

If we don’t watch out, Obama might seize the Presidency…

FUCK! WE’RE TOO LATE.

144 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:52:11am

re: #45 brennant

[eats cocaine cookie] What?

Can you let that center bit dry and then cut it up into powder and then snort it?

/

145 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:52:20am

re: #130 Kragar

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Could somebody call Chuck Todd and have him convey to the honorable representative from BFE that it’s not the media’s job to convince people that Republicans are right, that if they fail to get their message across, then it’s on them?

146 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:52:25am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Levin Says Obama Orchestrated Shutdown As Part Of A Coup

A nefarious plot to destroy the TPGOP. //

147 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:52:51am

re: #141 Lidane

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He’s still trolling?

148 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:53:24am
149 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:53:51am

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

The original Vicious Babushka:

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VB, do you have any links to any information behind that image and your story? I’d love to read more about it. I love that image.

150 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:53:51am
Rush Limbaugh, prominent conservative radio show host, slammed the Republican party on Wednesday for being “irrelevant,” lamenting that GOP leaders caved during their fight to defund Obamacare.
talkingpointsmemo.com

Maybe he’ll decide to run.

151 prairiefire  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:54:42am

Open up our government now! The OUOGN PAC starts here!

152 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:54:55am

re: #150 jaunte

Maybe he’ll decide to run.

Or at least walk fast.

153 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:55:20am

“Fiscal responsibility”

154 sagehen  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:55:24am

re: #23 Assless ChapJockey

If their party were more inclusive, they might be able to blame somebody other than white middleaged men. But they don’t have enough blacks, women, Juice, or Swarthy Foreigners for proper scapegoating.

They have one Jew — Eric Cantor. Coincidentally, he actual *does* deserve a significant portion of the blame. Countdown to Jim DeMint realizing this… 5… 4… 3…

155 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:55:58am

re: #64 jaunte

Dissident spelling!

They refuse to follow liberal teachings.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:56:27am

re: #126 EPR-radar

Federal agencies amassing large rainy day funds is the kind of thing that Congress has every right to object to.

Which is a major reason that Issa’s questions are so beyond the pale. He is basically asking the agency head why he didn’t have his department self-destruct as a result of an action Issa and the House GOP majority deliberately took.

157 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:56:29am

re: #153 jaunte

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“Fiscal responsibility”

MY ASS!

158 DisturbedEma  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:56:37am

re: #154 sagehen


Ya, I didn’t want to be the one to say it…but yes thought that too

159 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:56:38am
The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work and then they get elected and prove it.

-P. J. O’Rourke

160 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:57:19am

re: #156 Feline Fearless Leader

Which is a major reason that Issa’s questions are so beyond the pale. He is basically asking the agency head why he didn’t have his department self-destruct as a result of an action Issa and the House GOP majority deliberately took.

“Why didn’t you have a plan in place to keep these places open when we acted like a bunch of spoiled children?”

161 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:58:27am

re: #149 ObserverArt

VB, do you have any links to any information behind that image and your story? I’d love to read more about it. I love that image.

Remembering History: Holocaust survivor attacks a skinhead.

20 amazing photos that will change the way you think about the Holocaust.

162 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:58:28am

re: #159 Varek Raith

The government has indisputably made US citizens taller. Childhood nutrition is key for that.

163 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 11:59:22am

Oh jeez not this debunked old shit again…

164 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:00:12pm

re: #114 Assless ChapJockey

There goes Eric Cantor’s chance at the Speakership!

My hope!

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:00:27pm

re: #150 jaunte

Maybe he’ll decide to run.

No way. A lot of campaign laws include financial disclosure requirements. He might talk about it and make initial motions, but he’ll stop short of actually having to start filing the disclosure paperwork.

Didn’t Howard Stern make a big show of running for office a decade or so back and then immediately back off once the issue of disclosing his income sources (and size of) came up?

166 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:01:38pm

A little something to cheer us up, America:

Buzz Aldrin with the Neil Armstrong statue outside the Armstrong Engineering Center at Purdue

Buzz on Facebook

167 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:02:48pm

Create shutdown.

Vote for shutdown.

Fund raise on shutdown.

Refuse to vote for CR.

Rally the base with shutdown…

Blame shutdown on the White House.

Priceless.

168 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:02:57pm
169 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:03:14pm

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Freepers are flogging that dead horse a lot today.

170 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:03:32pm
171 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:03:48pm
“But live and learn; we’ll be doing this in a couple months.”

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.)


…
..
.

YOU DIDN’T LEARN!!!

172 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:03:53pm

Cruz is such a transparent fraud. He can’t keep it off of his face.

173 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:04:04pm

re: #153 jaunte

$700 billion. That could go to a whole lot of debt reduction, infrastructure improvements, etc. Heck, it was almost as big as the stimulus package (ARRA) by itself ($787 billion). Or TARP as originally authorized ($700 billion).

Instead, wasted. Down the memory hole.

Thanks to the party of fiscal irresponsibility. The GOP.

174 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:04:13pm

re: #169 Lidane

Freepers are flogging that dead horse a lot today.

“Keep fucking that chicken!”

175 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:04:24pm
176 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:04:27pm

Wow, after reading some of this crap you all are linking, the Republicans and Tea Bags can’t resist making themselves look even worse with their excuses.

Come on, they’ve seen the polls, do they think no one knows who caused the issues? So, they go to blame everyone knowing already everyone knows who the fuck-ups are.

Proceed. You still have some percentage points to drop yet.

177 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:05:05pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

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#winning

178 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:05:43pm
179 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:06:31pm

Ted apparently engaged in some historical revisionism, declaring that if the Senate GOP had stayed “united” with the House GOP, they could have had a different outcome. Which would be…what? America spending all of today wondering what tomorrow would bring?

180 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:07:54pm
181 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:07:55pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

Remembering History: Holocaust survivor attacks a skinhead.

20 amazing photos that will change the way you think about the Holocaust.

Thank you very much. Being of Slovak/German background this interests me a whole lot.

182 b_sharp  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:08:13pm

re: #1 Kragar

I blame all the Republicans for not keeping their rabid dogs in check.

Bark, bark, bark, … barf.

Sorry, I had a hairball stuck in my throat.

183 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:08:45pm

re: #180 Targetpractice

184 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:08:55pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Wow, after reading some of this crap you all are linking, the Republicans and Tea Bags can’t resist making themselves look even worse with their excuses.

Come on, they’ve seen the polls, do they think no one knows who caused the issues? So, they go to blame everyone knowing already everyone knows who the fuck-ups are.

Proceed. You still have some percentage points to drop yet.

They think the polls are all fabricated and the wretched masses are just aching for the Tea Party and the John Birch Society to lead them to Truth, Justice, and the (white) American Way. It is also true that RWNJs are stupid and seriously underestimate just how transparent their lies, fallacies, and half truths really are to most people.
See Dunning-Kruger effect.

185 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:09:10pm
186 brennant  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:09:50pm

re: #183 jaunte

Exactly. So brave when you know you can’t change the outcome.

Dumbfuckery.

187 Teukka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:09:56pm

re: #54 Vicious Babushka

The original Vicious Babushka:

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Correction: The old lady wasn’t a Holocaust survivor, but she did have origins in a country which suffered under the Nazis, namely Hungaria, and IIRC she was/is a Jew or other minority targeted by the Nazis during WWII (but don’t quote me on the latter, it’s 25-30 years ago for me).

Now back to our regular programming.

188 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:10:08pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

Ted apparently engaged in some historical revisionism, declaring that if the Senate GOP had stayed “united” with the House GOP, they could have had a different outcome. Which would be…what? America spending all of today wondering what tomorrow would bring?

Well as VB keeps saying, We haven’t heard the Fat Lady sing yet. The TPGOP can still try to scuttle this. The only question is, will they?

189 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:10:58pm

The Libertarians just keep proving they haven’t got a freakin clue…

190 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:11:21pm

re: #188 Bubblehead II

Well as VB keeps saying, We haven’t heard the Fat Lady sing yet. The TPGOP can still try to scuttle this. The only question is, will they?

I think the Senate dipshits have decided to accept they can’t do anything but delay this vote and so are just going to vote “No” and be done with it. No telling how the House will vote.

191 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:12:39pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

#spitehouse

This troll is supposed to be a Congressman?

192 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:13:05pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

If you’re a member of Congress and you have to resort to childish taunts like “Spite House” to make a point, you’ve already lost.

193 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:13:28pm

re: #191 jaunte

#spitehouse

This troll is supposed to be a Congressman?

Just like Steve Stockman.

194 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:13:52pm

re: #193 Vicious Babushka

He’s the champ.

195 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:13:55pm

re: #168 jaunte

That’s going to leave a mark. Ouch.

196 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:14:03pm

re: #190 Targetpractice

I think the Senate dipshits have decided to accept they can’t do anything but delay this vote and so are just going to vote “No” and be done with it. No telling how the House will vote.

Some supposedly sane members of the GOP will need to vote for this in the House for it to pass. The thought of voting in a manner contrary to GOP orthodoxy is probably causing them to wet themselves in anxiety.

197 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:14:27pm

Here’s another teahadi cartoon for Ben Shapiro to seethe about.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:15:19pm

re: #192 Lidane

If you’re a member of Congress and you have to resort to childish taunts like “Spite House” to make a point, you’ve already lost.

It’s all they got…
BTW, that’s my congresscritter that I’m stuck with…

199 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:15:21pm
200 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:15:59pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

Some supposedly sane members of the GOP will need to vote for this in the House for it to pass. The thought of voting in a manner contrary to GOP orthodoxy is probably causing them to wet themselves in anxiety.

There’s been at least 20 who have said they’d vote for a clean bill, and it takes 17. So unless all 20 suddenly get cold feet and vote “No,” votes they’ll no doubt have to explain to voters back home next year, my guess is that it’ll pass in the House by at least the bare minimum needed for a majority.

201 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:16:27pm

re: #199 Lidane

It is not often that I fervently hope an NRO author is correct.

202 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:16:43pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spitehouse….Dems will never survive that slam.

//

Also, too: Dems in Disarray

203 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:17:28pm

I hope this thing ends tonight so I can pick out my next new car.

204 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:17:37pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

Spitehouse….why is this Rep. disparaging the House of Representatives in this manner? ////

205 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:17:47pm

re: #198 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s all they got…
BTW, that’s my congresscritter that I’m stuck with…

My congresscritter is this douchenozzle. He’s bad enough, but my Senators (Cruz and Cornyn) are worse by several orders of magnitude.

206 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:18:07pm

re: #203 Vicious Babushka

We might be doing all of this again in January…

207 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:18:22pm

In the Golden Age of the GOP, everyone who had anything bad to say about Obama was given a free pass or even a platform. Nobody distanced themselves from even the most extreme rhetoric.

They failed to see that this would result in an attention-grabbing, free-for-all race to the bottom, and make it impossible to maintain cohesion during a strategic retreat as they are experienceing right now.

208 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:18:43pm

From my NTY email digest today:

“It’s very, very serious. Republicans have to understand we have lost this battle, as I predicted weeks ago, that we would not be able to win because we were demanding something that was not achievable.”

SENATOR JOHN MCCAIN, Republican of Arizona, on the inability of the House of Representatives to move forward on a path to reopen the government and extend the Treasury’s borrowing authority.

Senator Obvious?

209 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:18:50pm

re: #206 Bulworth

We might most certainly will be doing all of this again in January…

FTFY

210 brennant  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:18:57pm

re: #206 Bulworth

We might be doing all of this again in January…

Might be??

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:19:17pm

re: #205 Lidane

My congresscritter is this douchenozzle. He’s bad enough, but my Senators (Cruz and Cornyn) are worse by several orders of magnitude.

And my senators are McConnell and Paul…

sigh

212 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:20:13pm

re: #209 Sol Berdinowitz

FTFY

A lot can happen in 3 months …

213 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:20:31pm

re: #212 FemNaziBitch

A lot can happen in 3 months …

you mean things could get even worse?

214 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:20:33pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

And my senators are McConnell and Paul…

sigh

Well, at least we don’t hold it against either of you!

215 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:20:39pm

re: #203 Vicious Babushka

I hope this thing ends tonight so I can pick out my next new car.

You going to buy that with your EBT card?

//

216 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:20:40pm

What next, JFK was a Republican?

WRONG

217 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:21:02pm


Cruz: It was a ‘remarkable victory’ until Senate Republicans caved on the shutdown

“We saw the House of Representatives take a courageous stand, listening to the American people, that everyone in official Washington just weeks earlier said would never happen,” he continued. “And that was a remarkable victory, to see the House engage in a profile in courage.”

“Unfortunately, the Senate chose not to follow the House. And in particular, we saw real division among Senate Republicans. That was unfortunate. I would point out that had Senate Republicans united and supported House Republicans, the outcome of this, I believe, would have been very, very different.”

218 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:21:31pm

re: #215 Gus

You going to buy that with your EBT card?

//

I got it when I signed up for OBAMACAR!

219 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:21:49pm

re: #217 Kragar


Cruz: It was a ‘remarkable victory’ until Senate Republicans caved on the shutdown

Burning down everything and salting the earth is “courageous”?

220 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:22:34pm

Whereas: proponents of NOT raising the debt ceiling want to bankrupt YOU.

221 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:22:38pm

re: #218 Vicious Babushka

I got it when I signed up for OBAMACAR!

Sweet.

I understand the OBAMAPRIVATELEARJET is scheduled to roll out in 2014; I’m definitely looking into it.

222 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:22:46pm

re: #217 Kragar


Cruz: It was a ‘remarkable victory’ until Senate Republicans caved on the shutdown

Gettysburg was an incredible Confederate victory until Pickett’s charge…

223 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:22:54pm

re: #218 Vicious Babushka

I got it when I signed up for OBAMACAR!

Did you make that call on your OBAMAPHONE?

//

224 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:23:31pm

re: #221 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Sweet.

I understand the OBAMAPRIVATELEARJET is scheduled to roll out in 2014; I’m definitely looking into it.

Thinking about buying an OBAMAMCMANSION with my EBT card. //

225 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:23:34pm

re: #189 Backwoods_Sleuth

226 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:23:44pm

re: #206 Bulworth

We might be doing all of this again in January…

We might see a fight over the debt ceiling involving just what terms the GOP wants in their budget battle. But no, they’ve lost the battle over defunding/delaying the ACA. There’s no way they can convince people in 3 months that another shutdown is worth it. And the Senate deal doesn’t include the House language barring extraordinary measures by the Treasury, so we might not see another debt ceiling fight until mid-summer.

227 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:23:59pm

Anything goes wrong we deploy the OBAMACOUP. //

228 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:24:39pm

re: #222 Sol Berdinowitz

Gettysburg was an incredible Confederate victory until Pickett’s charge…

Midway was a magnificent victory for the Japanese until those stupid carriers let themselves get bombed.

229 leftynyc  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:08pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

Remembering History: Holocaust survivor attacks a skinhead.

20 amazing photos that will change the way you think about the Holocaust.

I clicked the link and as soon as I stopped sobbing I forwarded it to everyone in my address book….sobbing started with Shabbat at Buchenwald. Thank you.

230 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:17pm

re: #228 Kragar

Midway was a magnificent victory for the Japanese until those stupid carriers let themselves get bombed.

Stalingrad was going great for the Reich until winter arrived.

231 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:21pm
“I have seen the people who hustle and bustle, and they are already gone, at a young age,” he said. “I’m an old guy. I’ve been doing this a long time. And I don’t hustle and I don’t bustle.”
232 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:34pm

re: #227 Gus

Anything goes wrong we deploy the OBAMACOUP. //

rats…I thought you said OBAMACOUPE…

233 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:35pm

re: #224 Gus

Thinking about buying an OBAMAMCMANSION with my EBT card. //

Nice; try to get the one with the landing strip, and I’ll come visit.

234 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:57pm

re: #227 Gus

Anything goes wrong we deploy the OBAMACOUP. //

Isn’t that just one of the models of the OBAMACAR?

Oh, wait - COUP, not COUPE.

Never mind.

235 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:25:58pm

re: #227 Gus

Anything goes wrong we deploy the OBAMACOUP. //

Let me get this straight. Using your OBAMAPHONE you trigger the OBAMACOUP. At which point the OBAMACAR (actually a tank) comes and hauls you off to OBAMACAMP.

I think I’ll stick to Benghazi and four cups of coffee.
///

236 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:26:22pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

rats…I thought you said OBAMACOUPE…

Missed it by that much!

237 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:26:51pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

I was thinking more of another government shutdown.

238 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:27:16pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

And my senators are McConnell and Paul…

sigh

Ohio gets to claim Boehner…yet he isn’t in my district so I can do nothing about him. And my rep Pat Tiberi, Ohio 12th district is in hiding somewhere. Have not heard a damn thing from him.

I’m hoping this is his last term…

239 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:27:55pm

Stop the BARRYCOUP!! #Twitchy

240 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:28:10pm

re: #226 Targetpractice

The debt ceiling default date is subject to how the economy does and whether the GOP manages to submarine things again. But the GOP doesn’t want this going into the summer, because that’s right in time for the primary elections and would hand the Democrats a gift like none other.

241 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:28:20pm

re: #237 Bulworth

I was thinking more of another government shutdown.

Not a chance. No, I think the GOP has lost its appetite for another drawn out fight like this. At least over something like the ACA. And they’d be just as foolish to stage a shutdown over “entitlement reform.”

242 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:28:32pm

re: #239 Gus

Stop the BARRYCOUP!! #Twitchy

Is that like Sarah the Barrycoup-duh?

243 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:29:26pm

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

Obamacoupe. I’ll take mine in the Royale Brougham. /

245 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:30:44pm

GOP rebranding…

OK, we tried #OBAMACARE… from now on we’re calling it #BARRYCARE.

Please RT! Make this go viral.

#winning

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:30:58pm

re: #238 ObserverArt

Ohio gets to claim Boehner…yet he isn’t in my district so I can do nothing about him. And my rep Pat Tiberi, Ohio 12th district is in hiding somewhere. Have not heard a damn thing from him.

I’m hoping this is his last term…

his press office twitter:
twitter.com

Expand the tweets for responses. They are not positive.

247 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:31:47pm

Got this from my daughter today:

Stories of lost students, Wednesday edition (from a colleague):

Question: What are characteristics of the tundra biome?
Answer: Goat.

248 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:31:49pm
249 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:32:29pm

re: #243 lawhawk

Obamacoupe. I’ll take mine in the Royale Brougham. /

Obamacoupe de Ville.

250 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:32:31pm
I got my share—I’m happy.

WOW, who says that? Isn’t it unamerican? I mean aren’t we supossed to never be satisfied, always need bigger, better, smarter, stronger, faster, more, more, more?

251 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:33:31pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

MP Asks Metropolitan Police to Investigate the Guardian

Greenwald is really leaving them holding a bag of shit on his way out.

252 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:33:50pm

re: #250 FemNaziBitch

WOW, who says that? Isn’t it unamerican? I mean aren’t we supossed to never be satisfied, always need bigger, better, smarter, stronger, faster, more, more, more?

“What’s happiness? It’s just the moment before you need MORE happiness.”

253 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:33:55pm

re: #248 Lidane

Ah, the standard notpology for driving the US government to the brink of defaulting.

254 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:34:01pm

Very confident the added language pertaining to “income verification” for ACA applicants will do much to reduce government…wait, what?

255 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:34:15pm

re: #251 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Greenwald is really leaving them holding a bag of shit on his way out.

He also pried all the keys out of their keyboards.

256 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:34:39pm

re: #251 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Greenwald is really leaving them holding a bag of shit on his way out.

A big bag of poo that’s been lit on fire.

257 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:34:42pm

Apparently the “stabbed in the back” narrative is settling on the “liberal media,” the idea that the press turned people against the GOP by “lying” as to what their demands were and making them seem like the bad guys for arguing that they deserved a cookie for not blowing up the economy.

258 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:35:09pm

re: #253 Feline Fearless Leader

Ah, the standard notpology for driving the US government to the brink of defaulting.

Combined with promises of further intransigence. These really are worthless people.

259 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:35:13pm

re: #229 leftynyc

I clicked the link and as soon as I stopped sobbing I forwarded it to everyone in my address book….sobbing started with Shabbat at Buchenwald. Thank you.

I love the skydiver!

260 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:35:37pm

re: #254 Bulworth

Very confident the added language pertaining to “income verification” for ACA applicants will do much to reduce government…wait, what?

Well, we’ll have to hire more ‘government workers’ to do it, probably the jackbooted thugs of the IRS, but on the plus side, they’ll be picking on The Poors, so it’s all good.

261 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:36:02pm

re: #254 Bulworth

Very confident the added language pertaining to “income verification” for ACA applicants will do much to reduce government…wait, what?

The PA version of ACA being pushed by Governor Corbett is supposed to include this provision, or something similar to it. And the PA state government has already admitted that they won’t be able to enforce it based on how similar provisions for other state aid programs is not properly supervised currently.

262 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:36:06pm
263 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:36:06pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

Apparently the “stabbed in the back” narrative is settling on the “liberal media,” the idea that the press turned people against the GOP by “lying” as to what their demands were and making them seem like the bad guys for arguing that they deserved a cookie for not blowing up the economy.

My surprise….

264 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:36:17pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

Apparently the “stabbed in the back” narrative is settling on the “liberal media,” the idea that the press turned people against the GOP by “lying” as to what their demands were and making them seem like the bad guys for arguing that they deserved a cookie for not blowing up the economy.

I keep seeing wingnuts — even people I know — parroting the lie that default was never a serious threat, and that it couldn’t happen unless Obama allowed it. Oh, and the liberal media was playing up the fake threat of default to scare people and make the GOP look bad.

WTF.

265 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:37:07pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

Apparently the “stabbed in the back” narrative is settling on the “liberal media,” the idea that the press turned people against the GOP by “lying” as to what their demands were and making them seem like the bad guys for arguing that they deserved a cookie for not blowing up the economy.

The ‘liberal media’ is the RW’ers invariable fallback scapegoat.

For instance, should Mr. Booker trounce Mr. Lonegan in the NJ Senatorial election today, the RW’ers will conclude that the ‘liberal media’ turned voters against Mr. Lonegan.

Well, that and they’ll probably scream “Voter fraud!” their other fallback position.

266 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:37:38pm

re: #264 Lidane

I keep seeing wingnuts — even people I know — parroting the lie that default was never a serious threat, and that it couldn’t happen unless Obama allowed it. Oh, and the liberal media was playing up the fake threat of default to scare people and make the GOP look bad.

WTF.

SKEWED POLLS!

267 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:37:41pm

re: #254 Bulworth

Very confident the added language pertaining to “income verification” for ACA applicants will do much to reduce government…wait, what?

That’s what I’ve been saying. The ACA already has income verification, so what ever additional income verification the GOP has in mind is going to be the kind that increases the recordkeeping and paperwork for self-employed people and small businesses. The very opposite of what they claim to be for.

268 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:37:42pm

re: #264 Lidane

I keep seeing wingnuts — even people I know — parroting the lie that default was never a serious threat, and that it couldn’t happen unless Obama allowed it. Oh, and the liberal media was playing up the fake threat of default to scare people and make the GOP look bad.

WTF.

Conservatism and the tea party version of libertarian thought can not be wrong, it can only be failed by officials not being zealous enough in bringing it to being.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:37:45pm

re: #257 Targetpractice

Apparently the “stabbed in the back” narrative is settling on the “liberal media,” the idea that the press turned people against the GOP by “lying” as to what their demands were and making them seem like the bad guys for arguing that they deserved a cookie for not blowing up the economy.

Apparently one of those cocaine/Oreo cookies…

270 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:38:02pm

re: #264 Lidane

I keep seeing wingnuts — even people I know — parroting the lie that default was never a serious threat, and that it couldn’t happen unless Obama allowed it. Oh, and the liberal media was playing up the fake threat of default to scare people and make the GOP look bad.

WTF.

Most of the language they’re using today is the same they used to gripe about how “spiteful” Obama was being when the sequester set in and things like the White House tours got indefinitely suspended due to lack of funds.

Yes folks, Republicans do believe in recycling, at least when it comes to talking points.

271 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:38:06pm

re: #262 Gus

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Some days, I really wouldn’t mind.

272 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:39:05pm

Seen at NRO. Comedy gold

Ten years from now, nobody will remember why Obama got downgraded once and threatened with downgrade again… they will just Remember that Obama couldn’t work with any other person in America and was a failed President.
Not a bad week for Republicans.

273 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:39:32pm
274 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:39:38pm

re: #267 lawhawk

That’s what I’ve been saying. The ACA already has income verification, so what ever additional income verification the GOP has in mind is going to be the kind that increases the recordkeeping and paperwork for self-employed people and small businesses. The very opposite of what they claim to be for.

It’s the next fallback position once delay and defund fail. Pile on limitations, means tests, and paperwork in order to make administration more expensive and applying and getting it more difficult. Same strategy as the on-going campaigns for voter disenfranchising.

275 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:40:28pm

re: #244 Charles Johnson

MP Asks Metropolitan Police to Investigate the Guardian

I’m afraid this will play into the fantasies that the Guardian is being persecuted by the government and thus prove The Guardian has been on the right path about what the wingnuts here call “government overreach”.

Unfortunately the UK has a squishier concept of freedom of speech than what we enjoy here in the US.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:40:37pm
277 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:40:43pm

Drive-by - Kimmel parodies Tea Partiers (fake ad starts around 0:55):

Youtube Video

278 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:41:08pm

absolute

279 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:41:35pm

What is this I don’t even:

280 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:41:50pm

re: #264 Lidane

I keep seeing wingnuts — even people I know — parroting the lie that default was never a serious threat, and that it couldn’t happen unless Obama allowed it. Oh, and the liberal media was playing up the fake threat of default to scare people and make the GOP look bad.

WTF.

Krugman had a good answer for that, so I filed off the serial numbers paraphrased it and posted on FB - the ‘reallocation of expenditures’ means 4% of GDP instantly disappears, which is by definition a contraction of the economy, likely leading to a recession.

He puts the multiplier effect at about 2.5, so if we’d been stuck at the ceiling for an extended period, just in terms of the reduction in GDP alone, we’d have been in as bad a recession as the 2008-2009 collapse. That doesn’t factor in the effects on world trade, politics, etc.

281 Mattand  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:42:10pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

Seen at NRO. Comedy gold

That has to be a writer for Colbert. As cynical as I can be at times, I have a hard time believing someone is that delusional without having a mental problem.

282 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:42:42pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

Seen at NRO. Comedy gold

FDR faced a great number of challenges in getting the New Deal put in place, whether it was the WPA, the TVA, or SS. He had to fight Congress, he had to fight the Supreme Court, and he had to fight for reelection.

Do any of these numbnuts consider him a “failed president”?

283 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:43:28pm

Some Republicans at NRO have a solid grasp of reality. Gratifying, actually.

Its probably not going to happen because we keep eating our own. Remember that this is all over CRs and the political risk that House Republcans take in voting for them. The CR is going to come up again in a few months, and of course the same problem will happen. Republicans in the house will be pressured by Tea Bags to attach some demand that they have no chance of getting. If they don’t, then some back water hick will challenge them in a primary. Until this changes, the focus is going to always be on how much of a mess Republicans are, and consequently take the heat off Obama.

284 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:44:15pm

re: #280 Assless ChapJockey

Krugman had a good answer for that, so I filed off the serial numbers paraphrased it and posted on FB - the ‘reallocation of expenditures’ means 4% of GDP instantly disappears, which is by definition a contraction of the economy, likely leading to a recession.

He puts the multiplier effect at about 2.5, so if we’d been stuck at the ceiling for an extended period, just in terms of the reduction in GDP alone, we’d have been in as bad a recession as the 2008-2009 collapse. That doesn’t factor in the effects on world trade, politics, etc.

Is part of the effect in the world economy the leaders of the various foreign powers and large corporations rolling on the floor laughing while their major competitor shoots itself repeatedly?

285 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:44:22pm

“KP: People survive somehow. Look at Christ’s period up to today. The world is always going to war; we just forgot the many wars before. The Roman empire, the British empire. Through 18th century, 17th century, going over time, 12th century, 5th century, people are fighting. Because the people have the ego. As long as they have the power and as long as they have the business, they want the war. That’s why you see the Vietnam war and those wars and that small war. They wanted the damn fucking war.

So, you don’t blame Arabs, you don’t blame Americans. You blame the politics. You don’t blame anybody else. People are people, I find with everybody. I don’t know you—I’m sitting with you for an hour. Why? Because we have a common understanding. If you can make a common understanding, then you can have peace, you can have trust. But the problem is there within the society. All the master’s degrees, all the doctors, they got their own damn fucking club where they all get together. And they won’t let anybody else in. So, they’re making this circle, and this circle has to be broken. Let’s make one big circle and everyone can come. People can come, we don’t care.”

286 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:45:03pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

FDR faced a great number of challenges in getting the New Deal put in place, whether it was the WPA, the TVA, or SS. He had to fight Congress, he had to fight the Supreme Court, and he had to fight for reelection.

Do any of these numbnuts consider him a “failed president”?

Probably all of them.

287 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:46:03pm
288 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:46:26pm

re: #286 Assless ChapJockey

Probably all of them.

Exactly. But then again they like to think that Reagan was the guy who ran for office, not the one who actually served as president.

289 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:47:32pm

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

absoulute

Asshole. Only took me 5 sec as it’s what I have been calling Cruz the last 16 days.

290 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:47:46pm

re: #286 Assless ChapJockey

Probably all of them.

George Barley: Why doesn’t the government do something, that’s what I’d like to know.

Mr. Krull: What can they do, they’re only people just like us.

George Barley: People my foot, they’re democrats.

291 The Mountain That Blogs  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:48:08pm

re: #278 FemNaziBitch

absinthe

292 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:49:51pm

97 years and not backing down!

293 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:49:53pm

re: #291 The Mountain That Blogs

Are

294 Snarknado!  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:51:16pm

re: #293 lawhawk

ache

295 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:51:28pm

acquire
absolute
asshole
abundance

296 The Mountain That Blogs  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:51:57pm

re: #293 lawhawk

Imagine there is a minimum letter count. There are at least ten three letter a_e words.

297 BongCrodny  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:51:58pm

re: #262 Gus

I Wanna be Sedated, The Ramones

Hey, look! It’s the House of Representatives!

298 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:52:08pm
299 Snarknado!  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:52:22pm

re: #295 Feline Fearless Leader

acquire
absolute
asshole
abundance

…but did you do that in less than 10 seconds?

300 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:52:49pm

re: #299 Snarknado!

…but did you do that in less than 10 seconds?

Assume that I did. ;)

301 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:53:01pm

Deal isn’t done until I see the votes. And then we know which GOPers are staking out 2016 positions, which ones are playing the long game, and which ones are batcrap insane.

We’ll know soon enough.

But this much is true, the GOP brought us here, and they’re the ones who could have averted this all along if they simply told the TP to shove their ACA delay/defund/destroy mantra in favor of actual politics - which is the art of what is possible.

302 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:53:04pm

re: #298 Lidane

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303 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:53:41pm

(&)

304 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:54:04pm

re: #296 The Mountain That Blogs

Yup, and I’ll be drinking a bunch of ale (or absinthe, if I had any in the house) to celebrate Cory Booker’s win tonight… :)

305 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:54:21pm

Wrong one, meant this one.

306 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:55:58pm

re: #304 lawhawk

Yup, and I’ll be drinking a bunch of ale (or absinthe, if I had any in the house) to celebrate Cory Booker’s win tonight… :)

Can you get absinthe where you are? We certainly have it here in the Czech Republic - hell, the country is a major producer of absinthe.

307 kirkspencer  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:56:14pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

Seen at NRO. Comedy gold

Right.

Just for reference, see Clinton and remember that his term ended more than ten years ago.

308 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:56:57pm

Why are Vagina’s Important to You?
Youtube Video

309 Bulworth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:58:01pm

It’s still early, but Kragar seems to have a pretty good handle on this Twitters thing:

310 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:58:56pm

Reporter: I suppose you are just as scared as the rest of us.

Klaatu: In a different way, perhaps. I am fearful when I see people substituting fear for reason.

;)

311 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 12:59:56pm

re: #306 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Yeah, we can get it here in the states.

312 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:01:38pm

re: #309 Bulworth

It’s still early, but Kragar seems to have a pretty good handle on this Twitters thing:

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He’s good with biting one liners, which makes him a natural for Twitter.

313 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:03:14pm
314 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:03:36pm

re: #311 lawhawk

Yeah, we can get it here in the states.

Cool. I was under the (mistaken) impression that it was illegal in the US.

315 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:04:23pm

The Teahadi point of view, as seen on NRO.

Not a nickel to the GOP!! Cruz and Lee now define the left edge of what is acceptable. Any GOPer who expresses regret or second guesses the shutdown is too liberal for this country! There will be many primary challenges to these stale GOPers—support the Tea Party!!!!

A sensible commenter did inquire “Who, pray tell, is to the right of Cruz and Lee? Francisco Franco?”

316 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:05:00pm

An exclusive video of Dr Lizardo’s reaction to reading wingnut Tweets

Image: 50-cent-driving-away-with-patrick.gif

317 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:05:32pm

re: #309 Bulworth

It’s still early, but Kragar seems to have a pretty good handle on this Twitters thing:

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Kragar is epic for the twitter.

318 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:05:38pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Cool. I was under the (mistaken) impression that it was illegal in the US.

I can’t get it to load ..

319 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:06:11pm

Fox News Official Rationalization

Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume explained on “Special Report With Bret Baier” Monday night why Tea Party Republicans originally started their confrontation with Democrats over the bid to defund ObamaCare.

He argued that they’re taking an unconventional approach, because the mainstream GOP has “utterly failed” to stop the growth of government.

Hume said:

“Veteran political observers on both the left and right are still trying to figure out what the House Tea Party caucus and its Senate pied piper Ted Cruz were thinking when they insisted on using the threat of a government shutdown to defund ObamaCare.

“It was a hopeless strategy that has not only failed in its stated goal, but helped send the Republican Party to its lowest favorability ratings ever.

“In conventional terms, it seems inexplicable, but Senator Cruz and his adherents do not view things in conventional terms. They look back over the past half-century, including the supposedly golden era of Ronald Reagan, and see the uninterrupted forward march of the American left. Entitlement spending never stopped growing. The regulatory state continued to expand. The national debt grew and grew and finally in the Obama years, exploded. They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew. And they see the Republican Party as having utterly failed to stop the drift toward an unfree nation supervised by an overweening and bloated bureaucracy. They are not interested in Republican policies that merely slow the growth of this leviathan. They want to stop it and reverse it. And they want to show their supporters they’ll try anything to bring that about.

“And if some of those things turn out to be reckless and doomed, well so be it.”

320 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:06:19pm

re: #318 FemNaziBitch

I can’t get it to load ..

It takes awhile; it took about 10 seconds on my end.

321 kirkspencer  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:07:02pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Cool. I was under the (mistaken) impression that it was illegal in the US.

It was till 2007. And if the absinthe contains more than 10ppm of thujone (the hallucinogenic component of artemisia aka grand wormwood) then it’s still illegal.

322 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:07:17pm

re: #6 Egregious Philbin

Over in crazy Freeper-land (oxymoron), they are calling for revolt, posting pictures of confederate flags, kissing Rush’s ass and trying to get Texas to seceed. It is like watching Granpa Simpson after he doubled his dose of Geritol…it angries up the blood!

Rush is engaging in yet another feat of projection:

Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday blasted the Republican Party as “irrelevant” and responsible for “creating one of the greatest political disasters” he’s ever seen.

“I was trying to think earlier today, if ever in my life I could remember any major political party being so irrelevant,” the conservative radio host said on his show, according to a transcript. “I have never seen it. I have never seen a major political party simply occupy placeholders, as the Republican Party is doing.”

Limbaugh slammed the Republican Party for consistently failing to offer any “serious opposition” to the Democratic Party or President Barack Obama. And now the party has made an “inexplicable political cave-in” with the agreement to reopen the government and lift the debt ceiling, he said.

“There hasn’t been any opposition, not any serious opposition,” Limbaugh said. “There may have been votes against this or that, votes against Obamacare. There may have been votes against the stimulus, but in terms of a package of policies, a package of principled beliefs, of opposition expressed daily by party leaders against what’s happening in this country, there hasn’t been.”

Of course, Rush is ignoring the fact that he and his fellow talk show hosts have systematically choked out GOP policy talk in favor of futile attacks on Obamacare and vile attacks on Obama personally.

323 danarchy  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:07:44pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Cool. I was under the (mistaken) impression that it was illegal in the US.

It was until a couple of years ago. I think it is still restricted to like one or 2 distributors.

324 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:08:23pm

re: #314 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Cool. I was under the (mistaken) impression that it was illegal in the US.

Yes and no, it is no longer the same absinthe the poets and painters drank at the turn of the last century…

325 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:08:37pm

re: #315 EPR-radar

The Teahadi point of view, as seen on NRO.

A sensible commenter did inquire “Who, pray tell, is to the right of Cruz and Lee? Francisco Franco?”

Ghengis Khan. Maybe.

326 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:08:57pm

re: #313 Lidane

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Observer Art’s congresscritter!

327 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:09:39pm

Just learned on fb that a long time friend just married his long-time (10 years!) partner.

I’m so happy for them!

328 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:09:47pm

re: #319 dog philosopher

Fox News Official Rationalization

Fox News senior political analyst Brit Hume explained on “Special Report With Bret Baier” Monday night why Tea Party Republicans originally started their confrontation with Democrats over the bid to defund ObamaCare.

He argued that they’re taking an unconventional approach, because the mainstream GOP has “utterly failed” to stop the growth of government.

Hume said:

“Veteran political observers on both the left and right are still trying to figure out what the House Tea Party caucus and its Senate pied piper Ted Cruz were thinking when they insisted on using the threat of a government shutdown to defund ObamaCare.

“It was a hopeless strategy that has not only failed in its stated goal, but helped send the Republican Party to its lowest favorability ratings ever.

“In conventional terms, it seems inexplicable, but Senator Cruz and his adherents do not view things in conventional terms. They look back over the past half-century, including the supposedly golden era of Ronald Reagan, and see the uninterrupted forward march of the American left. Entitlement spending never stopped growing. The regulatory state continued to expand. The national debt grew and grew and finally in the Obama years, exploded. They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew. And they see the Republican Party as having utterly failed to stop the drift toward an unfree nation supervised by an overweening and bloated bureaucracy. They are not interested in Republican policies that merely slow the growth of this leviathan. They want to stop it and reverse it. And they want to show their supporters they’ll try anything to bring that about.

“And if some of those things turn out to be reckless and doomed, well so be it.”

That’s actually pretty decent analysis by Mr. Hume.

329 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:09:58pm

re: #321 kirkspencer

It was till 2007. And if the absinthe contains more than 10ppm of thujone (the hallucinogenic component of artemisia aka grand wormwood) then it’s still illegal.

Ah, OK.

330 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:11:13pm

re: #325 CuriousLurker

I normally don’t spend much time reading comments at NRO, but this really is the finest crop of RWNJ tears since the election results of 2012 became clear. Better in many ways because the rifts between the teabaggers and the sane are getting wider.

331 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:11:54pm
332 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:12:56pm

re: #315 EPR-radar

The Teahadi point of view, as seen on NRO.

A sensible commenter did inquire “Who, pray tell, is to the right of Cruz and Lee? Francisco Franco?”

Some loons like that are going to flounce. There’s nothing to be done at this point save to let them go.

DF to Tea Party: “Run your candidates on your own damn ticket from now on!”

333 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:13:39pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

That’s actually pretty decent analysis by Mr. Hume.

I can agree with the “do not see things in conventional terms” part, but the rest is all Fox/GOP talking points.

Yes, spending and debt did come to a head under Obama, and there are a lot of reasons for that, but they are not just the result of overextension of government and entitlement.

334 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:16:52pm

re: #313 Lidane

[Embedded content]

That’s my rep. Groan.

335 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:12pm

re: #319 dog philosopher

That paints the GOP as still fundamentally fighting against the New Deal, and would place the glory days of the US in the Gilded Age.

336 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:18pm

Why is this such a hard concept for some?

337 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:20pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

Observer Art’s congresscritter!

Just acknowledged that post.

338 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:42pm

re: #335 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

That paints the GOP as still fundamentally fighting against the New Deal, and would place the glory days of the US in the Gilded Age.

They are fighting the Civil War.

339 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:44pm

Sweet, sweet wingnut tears over at Freeper land:

This guy is a pure, out and out traitor.

Wonder what HE got in return?????
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GOP. Done, toast. Stick a fork in it.
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Maybe Obama promised they wouldn’t reveal his secrets….until the next time they needed him to surrender.

We are finished with the GOP in this household. The TEA Party contingent in the House ought to walk out of this vote and then leave the Republican Party. Start the third party now.
—-

We will all be in internment camps inside of 10 years.
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Time for the Tea Party to leave the GOP, they cannot win with them.
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Nor can WE win without them. I like the idea of a third party, but in REAL LIFE/practical terms what we need to do is overrun the Republican party and use it, not allow them to chase us out.
—-

This is what Ann Coulter was saying on Glenns program yesterday.. sort of.

She didn’t like the idea of a third party. But she also didn’t like the idea of challenging GOP-e Senators head on.

Which I think you HAVE to do. Can’t let guys like Cornyn hold office.
—-

This is very depressing. Nobody will fight for us. He’ll cave on immigration next. Mid-terms won’t mean squat. Obama got everything he wanted. I really had HOPED he would have failed.
—-

What sort of platform would Ted Cruz have had if he wasn’t a person with Tea Party sentiments in the Republican party? None. Independents, Green Party, Constitution party, etc. DO NOT get heard. The first “coup” needs to be of the Republican party…that is if there will be such a party by the end of the year.
—-

You have to come to grips with the idea that to move forward we must destroy the GOP as a functioning party.

I know that’s a hard thing to do, but it’s fundamentally the only way forward.

If your representative isn’t a conservative, primary them. If the RINO wins and represents in the general, withhold your vote or vote for the DEM.

Eventually they will get the message.

I believe you saw this with Romney on a small scale, the next elections will go even more along these lines.

And that’s just the first page of one thread over there. Freepers are either fed up with the GOP, demoralized (“I’m un-registering to vote! Screw the Republicans!”) or convinced they’re going to be rounded up and killed by Obama.

It’s both amusing and disturbing at the same time.

340 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:17:45pm

re: #333 Sol Berdinowitz

I can agree with the “do not see things in conventional terms” part, but the rest is all Fox/GOP talking points.

Yes, spending and debt did come to a head under Obama, and there are a lot of reasons for that, but they are not just the result of overextension of government and entitlement.

Brit Hume would rather cut out his tongue than admit that spending growth has leveled off in the Obama years, after relentless increases under W Bush.

341 Schadenboner  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:18:06pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

That’s actually pretty decent analysis by Mr. Hume.

Or it would be if it wasn’t lifted wholesale from Douthat’s column last week: douthat.blogs.nytimes.com

342 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:18:17pm

re: #282 Targetpractice

FDR faced a great number of challenges in getting the New Deal put in place, whether it was the WPA, the TVA, or SS. He had to fight Congress, he had to fight the Supreme Court, and he had to fight for reelection.

Do any of these numbnuts consider him a “failed president”?

Actually I know quite a few RWNJs who consider FDR not only a failure but a disaster, for instituting the “welfare state” and, of course, for allowing Churchill and the usual suspects (Reds and the Juice) to trick us into supporting their effort to thwart Germany’s rightful attempt to redress the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles.
One prominent GOPer here in Lubbock, a member of last year’s platform committee, goes further and calls Theodore Roosevelt “the first socialist president.” This is because TR was the first “to interfere with business” with his trust busting and his support for the Pure Food and Drug Act.
Keep in mind that in 80% Republican Lubbock “batshit crazy Tea Party” is the default, establishment position while “extreme rightwing” is, well, my God.

343 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:18:40pm

re: #337 ObserverArt

Just acknowledged that post.

Welcome to our world…

{{hugs}}

344 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:18:56pm

re: #333 Sol Berdinowitz

I can agree with the “do not see things in conventional terms” part, but the rest is all Fox/GOP talking points.

Yes, spending and debt did come to a head under Obama, and there are a lot of reasons for that, but they are not just the result of overextension of government and entitlement.

To be clear, though, Brit Hume was saying what Ted Cruz and his supporters believe to be true, not what he himself believes to be true. His use of the words “They see” is a clue that he is doing that.

345 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:19:50pm

re: #315 EPR-radar

The Teahadi point of view, as seen on NRO.

A sensible commenter did inquire “Who, pray tell, is to the right of Cruz and Lee? Francisco Franco?”

Isn’t he still dead?

Youtube Video

346 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:21:08pm

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel

Actually I know quite a few RWNJs who consider FDR not only a failure but a disaster, for instituting the “welfare state” and, of course, for allowing Churchill and the usual suspects (Reds and the Juice) to trick us into supporting their effort to thwart Germany’s rightful attempt to redress the injustices of the Treaty of Versailles.
One prominent GOPer here in Lubbock, a member of last year’s platform committee, goes further and calls Theodore Roosevelt “the first socialist president.” This is because TR was the first “to interfere with business” with his trust busting and his support for the Pure Food and Drug Act.
Keep in mind that in 80% Republican Lubbock “batshit crazy Tea Party” is the default, establishment position while “extreme rightwing” is, well, my God.

Yeah, it goes back to Teddy. I think they’d prefer a Feudal Land system.

347 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:21:35pm

re: #341 Schadenboner

Or it would be if it wasn’t lifted wholesale from Douthat’s column last week: douthat.blogs.nytimes.com

Not surprising those ideas were cribbed: Commentators and analysts do that sort of thing all the time. They shouldn’t, but they do.

348 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:22:03pm

re: #346 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, it goes back to Teddy. I think they’d prefer a Feudal Land system.

A feudal system?

Sounds like the CSA.

349 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:24:35pm
350 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:25:02pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

That’s actually pretty decent analysis by Mr. Hume.

“They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew”

you know, personally i don’t see the american population ” becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people”

as far as i’m concerned the “american population” remains as free and self-reliant as it ever was, and i resent the insults hurled so casually at the american public by people like this

if you think it’s a “pretty decent analysis”, tell me - what do you think of that particular statement by hume?

351 Schadenboner  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:25:20pm

re: #347 Dark_Falcon

Not surprising those ideas were cribbed: Commentators and analysts do that sort of thing all the time. They shouldn’t, but they do.

Also the probability of cross-contamination between the second and first target audiences is asymptotically approaching zero…

352 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:26:21pm

The Freep chatter has now moved into the “grand communist conspiracy” realm, where this was all planned years ago by the commies TO TAKE OVER ‘MERICA! With “he’s a seekrit muslim” mixed in, more calls for revolution “revolt is coming” (said by a bunch of overall wearin elderly rednecks). You can’t buy paranoid angst this funny. And, the creepy Sara (Hello Quitty) Palin worship is taking on cannonizaion levels…

353 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:26:34pm

re: #350 dog philosopher

“They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew”

you know, personally i don’t see the american population ” becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people”

as far as i’m concerned the “american population” remains as free and self-reliant as it ever was, and i resent the insults hurled so casually at the american public by people like this

if you think it’s a “pretty decent analysis”, tell me - what do you think of that particular statement by hume?

I repeat: Brit Hume is saying what Ted Cruz and his supporters ‘see’, not what he thinks is actually there.

354 ObserverArt  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:28:52pm

re: #350 dog philosopher

“They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew”

They see Black People (and others of color) in the population and do not recognize them as they were never supposed to be free and self reliant in the country they thought they knew as being the home of white bigotry.

Tell me that is not what is being said.

355 piratedan  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:29:06pm

re: #328 Dark_Falcon

That’s actually pretty decent analysis by Mr. Hume.

what is absolutelyfuckingamazing is how this perception only magically manifests itself when a Democrat holds the White House that somehow debt is important and spending is out of control. You hear exactly jack shit from the R side of the aisle when a R inhabits the Presidency or controls the purse.

If you’re a fiscal conservative who worries about the financial well being of the nation, it’s not a part time position and as such, anyone who hides behind this strawman is one incredibly hypocritical bastard if they think that the ONLY way to ever balance and reduce our national debt is solely at the expense of programs that don’t subsidize the wealthy, the corporate class or their own base constituency.

It will be a welcome day indeed when R’s start treating all of us as Americans rather than this tribal construct of idiocy that they continue to fantasize about. We’re a complicated country, that has an enormous amount of resources, both in terms of natural and human that can be used to make America a better place. Serious challenges are out there, wish to hell that these science denying god botherers would understand that this is simply bigger than themselves.

356 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:29:20pm

Class envy coming from the likes of libertarians Amash and Greenwald is just plain ugly.

357 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:31:26pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

I repeat: Brit Hume is saying what Ted Cruz and his supporters ‘see’, not what he thinks is actually there.

that’s slicing it pretty thin - according to my understanding of the way hume puts it, he pretty clearly “sees” things that way himself

358 BusyMonster  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:31:45pm

Wow, I go do some honest work for an hour and come back and all this has happened.

So, I used to read Greenwald back in the day before he came some kind of Libertarian Fuckwit Hero, and I have to say after his insult-laden interviews where he has refused to address his own integrity as a journalist, I didn’t think he could go much lower but fuck me he did. Hopping in bed with the Teabaggingest teabaggers who fucked I don’t know how many Americans in the face with this stupid shutdown: Greenwald is dead to me. Let him go start his little pissant phony blog. He can put Michele Bachmann on the banner and fucking get all the little anti-government dickweeds to beg to sit in his lap.

Fucking attention whore is what he is.

359 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:32:28pm

re: #348 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

A feudal system?

Sounds like the CSA.

yep

360 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:33:07pm

re: #344 Dark_Falcon

To be clear, though, Brit Hume was saying what Ted Cruz and his supporters believe to be true, not what he himself believes to be true. His use of the words “They see” is a clue that he is doing that.

i think this ‘clue’ is pretty thin evidence - i don’t agree with your interpretation

361 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:33:47pm

re: #350 dog philosopher

“They see an American population becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people they thought they knew”

you know, personally i don’t see the american population ” becoming unrecognizable from the free and self-reliant people”

as far as i’m concerned the “american population” remains as free and self-reliant as it ever was, and i resent the insults hurled so casually at the american public by people like this

if you think it’s a “pretty decent analysis”, tell me - what do you think of that particular statement by hume?

It’s so much easier to be free and self-reliant when you are poor & depleted by poor nutrition and repeated pregnancies …, but as long as you have a gun you can make sure those pregnancies are the result of rape …

362 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:34:55pm

re: #360 dog philosopher

i think this ‘clue’ is pretty thin evidence - i don’t agree with your interpretation

Then we disagree. That happens at times.

363 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:35:26pm

re: #346 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, it goes back to Teddy. I think they’d prefer a Feudal Land system.

A political science prof I know estimates that only 5% of straight white males in Lubbock voted for Obama last year. There is no real breakdown by gender or race, of course, but this analysis reflects a precinct by precinct demographic analysis. The overall vote in the county was 29% Obama.

364 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:38:11pm

re: #359 FemNaziBitch

yep

I’ve often considered that “Real America”, as the wingnuts are so fond of saying, including Caribou Barbie, is little more than code for the Confederacy.

I have little doubt whatsoever that many of the wingnuts sincerely believe the wrong side lost the Civil War.

365 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:39:03pm

re: #364 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

I’ve often considered that “Real America”, as the wingnuts are so fond of saying, including Caribou Barbie, is little more than code for the Confederacy.

I have little doubt whatsoever that many of the wingnuts sincerely believe the wrong side lost the Civil War.

It’s about States-Rights!!!

366 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:41:07pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

I repeat: Brit Hume is saying what Ted Cruz and his supporters ‘see’, not what he thinks is actually there.

I think the problem is it’s hard to distinguish this vision of America from some of the rhetoric coming from other Republicans who aren’t Ted Cruz and his supports.

The main difference seems to be how far they’re willing to go to stop it.

367 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:46:38pm

re: #366 klys

I think the problem is it’s hard to distinguish this vision of America from some of the rhetoric coming from other Republicans who aren’t Ted Cruz and his supports.

The main difference seems to be how far they’re willing to go to stop it.

They all long for an America that never really existed - the economy of the 1950s with the Laissez Faire economics of the 1890s - but only the Tea Partiers are crazy enough to believe they can actually make it happen.

368 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:49:36pm

re: #367 Assless ChapJockey

They all long for an America that never really existed - the economy of the 1950s with the Laissez Faire economics of the 1890s - but only the Tea Partiers are crazy enough to believe they can actually make it happen.

They ignore the obvious. That economic system is unworkable without the downtrodden “other”. When everyone is equal under the law, it does not work.

369 makeitstop  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:52:33pm

re: #323 danarchy

It was until a couple of years ago. I think it is still restricted to like one or 2 distributors.

We buy ours from outlets in Europe.

It’s funny. The packages still come identified as ‘printed material’ - a leftover from when we used to buy it when it was still not allowed.

370 GeneJockey  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 1:54:32pm

re: #368 FemNaziBitch

They ignore the obvious. That economic system is unworkable without the downtrodden “other”. When everyone is equal under the law, it does not work.

So they long for the Old South, where the plantation owners were the aristocracy, but the small farmers were proud and self-reliant, and the slaves were happy and well cared for.

371 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 2:41:36pm

re: #370 Assless ChapJockey

So they long for the Old South, where the plantation owners were the aristocracy, but the small farmers were proud and self-reliant, and the slaves were happy and well cared for.

Thomas Jefferson’s vision.

372 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 3:01:37pm

re: #272 EPR-radar

Seen at NRO. Comedy gold

Lol


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