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316 comments
1 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:47:38pm

For those following the NJ special election between Cory Booker and nutbag Lonegan, here’s the results broken down by county:

nj.com

Also useful, how these counties have broken in past elections.
2012 - Menendez over Kryllios

2008 - Lautenberg over Zimmer

2006 - Menendez over Kean Jr

2002 - Lautenberg over Forrester

2000 - Corzine over Franks

Don’t expect those trends to change.

2 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:51:38pm
3 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:52:12pm

Such a nice clean thread, and here I am going to dirty it up with a post on racism:

Intelligence is just another privilege you inherited from mummy and daddy

[…]

Dominic Cummings had in fact used an accurate definition of heritability, as he states here, and the point he was making was that journalists routinely misunderstand genetics. What’s strange is that he was saying nothing that isn’t widely accepted; the very significant influence of heritable factors on differences in IQ within a population has been well known for four decades, and yet for political reasons it is ignored in education policy, both here and in the US.

[…]

This is just downright misleading.

What Ed West leaves out is that what he labels “significant influence” is not “significant” in the meaning of that word which would be synonymous with “large”, “majority”, or even “sizable minority”.

Rather, what has been shown is that IQ is affected in a very small amount ( a few IQ points on traditional scales) by genes, as far as describing variance of intelligence in a population. These finding may be statistically “significant” as used by statisticians describing empirical studies, but that simply implies a high likelihood of repeatability and that the studies are not just noise.

And of course Ed West side-steps the very considerable issue of exactly what is “intelligence” and what exactly are we measuring with IQ tests.

There is a persistent misuse of science by racists and this will, I expect, grow in the future.

As a society we don’t deal well with genetics, evolution, and of course statistics and empiricism.

And there are plenty of people out there with agendas who exploit this weakness of ours.

4 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:53:24pm

For those who didn’t see this on the previous,

nj.com

Sore fucking losers. And so not independent—just more wingnuts since Booker is winning.

5 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:53:28pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

I still don’t think Michelle is that attractive, but she totally just rose a notch in my estimation seeing her laugh and smile like that.

6 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:54:19pm
7 nines09  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:55:15pm

I don’t know if anyone else posted this but here’s the pricing (without any subsidies you may have) for state by state healthcare costs. You do not have to enter any personal information and it gives you a good idea of the plans available. Even without subsidies (which I know I would qualify for) I would save at least $500.00 a month with a Platinum Plan over what I would have had to pay before. I don’t know about out of pocket limits, but this at least gives you a ballpark figure. Plans State by State

8 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:57:57pm

re: #5 thedopefishlives

I still don’t think Michelle is that attractive, but she totally just rose a notch in my estimation seeing her laugh and smile like that.

Why is your “estimation” of her based on her attractiveness? Because that’s what you just said.

9 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:58:41pm

re: #8 goddamnedfrank

Why is your “estimation” of her based on her attractiveness? Because that’s what you just said.

Well, I meant physical estimation, which is why I brought it up. Sorry.

10 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:59:53pm

Ooh, Plouffe trolling Cruz:

%u200

11 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 5:59:54pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

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Pretty sure that pic is from the 2012 Dem convention.

/pedantic.

12 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:00:25pm

re: #7 nines09

Lots of differences state by state.

If one lives in MN then maybe you’ll make out all right.

If you live in NY maybe not so much.

Is this what is meant by the States being “laboratories”?

13 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:01:06pm

re: #9 thedopefishlives

Well, I meant physical estimation, which is why I brought it up. Sorry.

No worries, I know what you meant, just though you should be aware of how that came out.

14 b_sharp  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:01:37pm

re: #3 freetoken

Such a nice clean thread, and here I am going to dirty it up with a post on racism:

Intelligence is just another privilege you inherited from mummy and daddy

This is just downright misleading.

What Ed West leaves out is that what he labels “significant influence” is not “significant” in the meaning of that word which would be synonymous with “large”, “majority”, or even “sizable minority”.

Rather, what has been shown is that IQ is affected in a very small amount ( a few IQ points on traditional scales) by genes, as far as describing variance of intelligence in a population. These finding may be statistically “significant” as used by statisticians describing empirical studies, but that simply implies a high likelihood of repeatability and that the studies are not just noise.

And of course Ed West side-steps the very considerable issue of exactly what is “intelligence” and what exactly are we measuring with IQ tests.

There is a persistent misuse of science by racists and this will, I expect, grow in the future.

As a society we don’t deal well with genetics, evolution, and of course statistics and empiricism.

And there are plenty of people out there with agendas who exploit this weakness of ours.

However, malnutrition has a significant effect on intelligence.

15 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:01:38pm
16 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:01:52pm

re: #13 goddamnedfrank

No worries, I know what you meant, just though you should be aware of how that came out.

The fishspawns’ perennial keeping me up at night is starting to catch up to me.

17 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:01:56pm

re: #11 goddamnedfrank

yes. it’s an old pic

18 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:02:20pm

re: #7 nines09

Sweet! Even without subsidies I can get Platinum coverage for under $250 a month. Me likey.

19 wrenchwench  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:03:09pm

Later, lizards.

20 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:03:22pm

re: #12 freetoken

Lots of differences state by state.

If one lives in MN then maybe you’ll make out all right.

If you live in NY maybe not so much.

Is this what is meant by the States being “laboratories”?

MN has a history of being progressive in the area of health care and insurance. Mind you, it’s not Romneycare, but we do alright taking care of our own.

21 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:03:23pm

Image: photoshopchimera-2.jpg

22 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:04:37pm
23 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:04:41pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

MN has a history of being progressive in the area of health care and insurance

ya but you have to give up your vowels

24 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:04:54pm

Freakin’ childern….Pleae proceed House GOP idiots

25 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:05:01pm

re: #23 dog philosopher

ya but you have to give up your vowels

eh?

26 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:06:36pm

re: #22 Charles Johnson

Obama: “Hopefully this is a lesson that will be internalized.”

they’ll get rid of all the moderates in the gop before trying again?

make sure there’s enough phlogiston in the air next time so that the gummint will burn better?

27 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:07:03pm

re: #25 klys

eh?

ok now you’ve gone and used them all up

28 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:07:43pm

re: #24 psddluva4evah

Freakin’ childern….Pleae proceed House GOP idiots

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Total pretext, they’d have taken any excuse to throw one last mini-tantrum. Obama just did them a favor, if it wasn’t his speech it’d have been something else, like his silence.

29 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:08:02pm

The House GOP is pissed at the President?

The rest of the country is pissed at the GOP for dragging the entire nation through this nonsense without any care for the consequences. Default is laughed off. Shutdown treated as agitprop theater and GOPers complaining that the shutdown would otherwise crimp their physical activities so they decided to keep the Congressional gym open while hundreds of thousands of people were furloughed.

Oh, and then the GOP took to claiming that they shouldn’t get retroactive pay. And on and on.

Reprehensible doesn’t begin to cover this.

30 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:11:35pm

re: #14 b_sharp

However, malnutrition has a significant effect on intelligence.

Anyone who is not bent on a racist (or other nefarious) agenda ought to agree that developmental factors dominate all our lives. This has been shown over and over in so many areas of our lives that to avoid it in these discussions immediately leads me to suspect a racist agenda.

31 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:11:46pm

re: #18 Lidane

In NC, it would cost me $673 for a Platinum plan—without subsidies. However, I’m already on Medicare, and I fall in the lower tier of income for one person. I don’t know how this would affect a supplemental plan, which I don’t have now.

32 b.d.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:11:56pm

Oh Joy! DailyDudeBro is going to have Politico hacks too!

EDIT - Misread Article - This quote about sums it up. “What exactly they’re building is unclear -– even to those directly involved.”

33 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:12:07pm

Airport bar music: Magnificent 7 - Clash.

Before it was Daryl Hall w/Mayer Hawthorne.

Interesting.

34 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:12:58pm

Like the nutty Anglo-Israelism, there is a persistent low level community of genetic racists in the UK faux intelligentsia. Derbyshire is probably best known to folks here, but there are others.

35 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:13:03pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

Such a gorgeous couple.

Absolutely love that the Republicans got nothing from their attempted hostage taking. Watching Rachel Maddow right now. She’s on a roll.

36 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:13:12pm
37 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:13:41pm

with 35% reporting in the nj senate race, ted cruz is still a moron

38 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:14:27pm

re: #37 dog philosopher

with 35% reporting in the nj senate race, ted cruz is still a moron

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd Monmouth County still gets my disappointed face.

39 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:14:47pm

re: #4 Justanotherhuman

Background on the others who were on the ballot, including those who are now challenging the ballot.

DePasquale appears to be running on an anti-immigrant platform, filing official slogans that include: No Amnesty Period, American Citizens First and Jobs for Americans.

Winning!

40 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:14:51pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

House GOPers not happy POTUS didn’t wait to speak until after they voted. They consider it a “respect” issue.

GOP Claims Patent Rights On Lack Of Respect In Politics

41 b.d.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:15:08pm

re: #10 psddluva4evah

Ooh, Plouffe trolling Cruz:

%u200

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Don’t tempt him Plouffe! Watch Cruz win the Mansion and not resign from the Senate. He’d think he can do both jobs at once.

42 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:15:34pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

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Oh, fuck you, Chuckie.

They don’t deserve respect.

43 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:15:38pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

44 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:15:38pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

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Respect? Here.

Youtube Video

45 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:15:39pm

re: #30 freetoken

Anyone who is not bent on a racist (or other nefarious) agenda ought to agree that developmental factors dominate all our lives. This has been shown over and over in so many areas of our lives that to avoid it in these discussions immediately leads me to suspect a racist agenda.

Attributing differences in test scores to inherent genetic factors is the irresistible fallacy of the scientific racist. They really can’t help themselves, bless their black hearts.

46 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:17:15pm

re: #43 psddluva4evah

The House GOP should be presented a bill for the economic damage their tantrum caused.

Making restitution is a bedrock principle of criminal law, after all.

47 b_sharp  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:17:46pm

re: #30 freetoken

Anyone who is not bent on a racist (or other nefarious) agenda ought to agree that developmental factors dominate all our lives. This has been shown over and over in so many areas of our lives that to avoid it in these discussions immediately leads me to suspect a racist agenda.

That’s all race realism is, a justification for racism by the misuse of statistics.

48 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:18:24pm

NJ so far is 55-44, and Bergen is just starting to post results.

285,218 / 55% for Booker versus 226,698 and 44% for Lonegan, with 2477/6330 precincts reporting.

49 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:19:04pm

re: #48 lawhawk

NJ so far is 55-44, and Bergen is just starting to post results.

285,218 / 55% for Booker versus 226,698 and 44% for Lonegan, with 2477/6330 precincts reporting.

Those are the skewed votes.

50 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:19:05pm

re: #31 Justanotherhuman

In NC, it would cost me $673 for a Platinum plan—without subsidies. However, I’m already on Medicare, and I fall in the lower tier of income for one person. I don’t know how this would affect a supplemental plan, which I don’t have now.

With my last job I wouldn’t have qualified for subsidies, at least according to the calculator they link to. Assuming my next job doesn’t offer insurance (heaven forbid), I would at least be able to get great coverage for less than what I was paying before, and for far less than what COBRA would’ve cost me to keep my last job’s plan.

51 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:19:13pm

re: #48 lawhawk

NJ so far is 55-44, and Bergen is just starting to post results.

285,218 / 55% for Booker versus 226,698 and 44% for Lonegan, with 2477/6330 precincts reporting.

Looks like a bad night ahead for Lonegan. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

52 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:19:38pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

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Boy, Republicans are blood pressure raising morons. Why should the President who even now they’re talking about impeaching respect them after what they’ve just done to the country?

53 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:19:41pm

re: #48 lawhawk

NJ so far is 55-44, and Bergen is just starting to post results.

285,218 / 55% for Booker versus 226,698 and 44% for Lonegan, with 2477/6330 precincts reporting.

I like refreshing the page and watching the number climb.

My sister voted today in a booth for the first time (as opposed to absentee ballots). She told me she was like “Ok, gotta not screw this up and vote for the wrong guy.”

I’m supposed to call and leave her a message when the vote is called, because she’s now on a boat anchored outside of Baltimore.

54 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:20:18pm

Where would we be if we didn’t have Chuck Todd around to defend the poor House Republicans from the evil Obama.

55 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:20:22pm

re: #51 EPR-radar

Looks like a bad night ahead for Lonegan. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

And Sarah Palin, who endorsed him.

Heh.

56 Weet  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:20:32pm

Republicans depend upon the fact that most people don’t hear the truth about their actions.

There is an agreement tonight that Congress will go to conference over the budget differences between the Senate and House. But 21 times Republican Senators have blocked going to conference. Here are the perpetrators:

1. 4/23 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.
2. 5/6 Senator Reid requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.
3. 5/7 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
4. 5/8 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
5. 5/9 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
6. 5/14 Senator Warner asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
7. 5/15 Senator Wyden asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator McConnell blocked.
8. 5/16 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Lee blocked.
9. 5/21 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Paul blocked.
10. 5/22 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Rubio blocked.
11. 5/23 Senator McCaskill asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Lee blocked.
12. 6/4 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Rubio blocked.
13. 6/12 Senator Kaine asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Lee blocked.
14. 6/19 Senator Murray asked unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.
15. 6/26 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cruz blocked.
16. 7/11 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.
17. 7/17 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Mike Lee blocked.
18. 8/1 Senator Durbin requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Marco Rubio blocked.
19. 10/2 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Toomey blocked.
20. 10/8 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Sessions blocked.
21. 10/9 Senator Murray requested unanimous consent to go to conference, Senator Cornyn blocked.

Counts:
McConnell 5
Lee 4
Rubio 4
Toomey 3
Cruz 2
Paul 1
Sessions 1
Cornyn 1

Here are the 16 Republicans that voted for default tonight (i.e. voted against cloture on the budget deal): Cornyn, Crapo, Cruz, Enzi, Grassley, Heller, Johnson (Wis), Lee, Paul, Risch, Roberts, Rubio, Sessions, Shelby, Toomey, Vitter

57 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:21:21pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

The House GOP should be presented a bill for the economic damage their tantrum caused.

Making restitution is a bedrock principle of criminal law, after all.

Instead they hold hearings with the National Parks.

How do I say it? Amazingly pitiful…

58 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:21:56pm

re: #49 Decatur Deb

Those are the skewed votes.

I can tell by the pixels …

59 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #39 lawhawk

DePasquale’s site is indistinguishable from a TP site, including that of Lonegan. In fact, other than the “I” line, they’re mostly interchangeable.

60 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:22:01pm

re: #46 EPR-radar

The House GOP should be presented a bill for the economic damage their tantrum caused.

Making restitution is a bedrock principle of criminal law, after all.

Amen!

At the very least, the House Democrats should bring up the billions lost during this GOP shutdown before the House votes tonight. Republicans need to be called out on wasting money when they claim to be so concerned about deficits.

61 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:22:12pm

re: #43 psddluva4evah

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Boom.

62 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:22:29pm

re: #55 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

And Sarah Palin, who endorsed him.

Heh.

That lemon margarita lady is on a roll.

63 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:23:06pm

re: #36 psddluva4evah

As much as it pains me to agree with Mr. Todd, I also think Obama should not have said anything until after the GOP votes.

Not out of any respect for the ambulatory skid marks of the House GOP delegation, of course. Just the sound principle that talk from GOPers is worthless, only the votes matter. Therefore there should be nothing that resembles an official declaration of victory before the GOP vote.

64 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:23:08pm

re: #59 lawhawk

DePasquale’s site is indistinguishable from a TP site, including that of Lonegan. In fact, other than the “I” line, they’re mostly interchangeable.

We appreciate your public service in looking into these things for us, so that those of us who wish to preserve our eyes/sanity can avoid doing so.

65 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:23:41pm

Lol, Chuck Todd.

66 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:23:46pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

That lemon margarita lady is on a roll.

Yep; next up, VA.

67 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:25:14pm

My surprise, etc. —

68 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:25:51pm

Teehee, up to 56/43 with 2952/6330 reporting in…

69 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:25:53pm

re: #60 Patricia Kayden

Amen!

At the very least, the House Democrats should bring up the billions lost during this GOP shutdown before the House votes tonight. Republicans need to be called out on wasting money when they claim to be so concerned about deficits.

How about a millionaire’s surtax to cover all damages directly related to GOP temper tantrums, to apply at double the rate to affected members of congress.

That proposal, if delivered by a Democrat in DC negotiations, could be viewed as assault with a deadly weapon.

70 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:25:59pm

re: #62 Stanley Sea

That lemon margarita lady is on a roll.

Huh?

71 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:26:15pm

re: #61 darthstar

Boom.

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Ha! The responses to Gwen are funny. And she acknowledged it.

72 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:26:16pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Huh?

Sarah Palin doesn’t know her drinks.

73 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:27:05pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Huh?

Sistah Sarah

74 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:27:09pm

re: #56 Weet

Here are the 16 Republicans that voted for default tonight (i.e. voted against cloture on the budget deal): Cornyn, Crapo, Cruz, Enzi, Grassley, Heller, Johnson (Wis), Lee, Paul, Risch, Roberts, Rubio, Sessions, Shelby, Toomey, Vitter

Nitpick, they didn’t vote against cloture, they voted against the deal. Had one of them voted against cloture then the mandatory 30 hours of debate would have begun and we’d be guaranteed to blow past the Thursday deadline.

75 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:27:11pm

Booker now has 13 percent ahead of Lonegan.

76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:27:17pm

They’re going to have an hour of ‘debate’ now. Whoo.

77 missliberties  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:28:10pm

Beautiful fingers.

I really dig your taste in music Charles.

78 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:28:12pm

re: #76 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

They’re going to have an hour of ‘debate’ now. Whoo.

Please tell me someone in the House GOP caucus brought a giant puppet or two for this.

79 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:28:25pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

As much as it pains me to agree with Mr. Todd, I also think Obama should not have said anything until after the GOP votes.

Not out of any respect for the ambulatory skid marks of the House GOP delegation, of course. Just the sound principle that talk from GOPers is worthless, only the votes matter. Therefore there should be nothing that resembles an official declaration of victory before the GOP vote.

Obama was measured and careful in his words, and was careful not to gloat. So while I agree with you, I’d also say it’s a case of “No harm, no foul.”

80 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:28:35pm

Lonegan’s biggest lead is… Ocean County! Derp.

81 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:28:54pm

Margin appears to be growing between Booker and Lonegan. 47% precincts reporting, 56-43 Booker. Based on counties still to report, Booker’s likely to increase that margin.

82 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:29:10pm

re: #80 Gus

Lonegan’s biggest lead is… Ocean County! Derp.

Take heart! Sussex hasn’t reported in yet! There is still hope!

83 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:29:20pm
84 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:29:28pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Huh?

85 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:30:59pm

re: #82 klys

Take heart! Sussex hasn’t reported in yet! There is still hope!

Most racist, ethnocentric place we’ve ever lived, and we’re in Baja Alabama now.

86 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:31:00pm

re: #63 EPR-radar

As much as it pains me to agree with Mr. Todd, I also think Obama should not have said anything until after the GOP votes.

Not out of any respect for the ambulatory skid marks of the House GOP delegation, of course. Just the sound principle that talk from GOPers is worthless, only the votes matter. Therefore there should be nothing that resembles an official declaration of victory before the GOP vote.

I’m not so sure. Obama explicitly said that the deal wasn’t done until the House votes, however it’s important to put an emphasis on the fact that this is the best and only deal they’re ever going to get.

He was remarkably restrained considering the amount of disrespect that’s been shown not only to him, but to the democratic process.

87 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:31:08pm

re: #84 Lidane

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Hearing Sarah Palin’s sing song voice and realizing that she could have been the VP could drive people to hard liquor. She really needs to find a hobby that keeps her out of the public eye.

88 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:31:29pm

re: #74 goddamnedfrank

Nitpick, they didn’t vote against cloture, they voted against the deal. Had one of them voted against cloture then the mandatory 30 hours of debate would have begun and we’d be guaranteed to blow past the Thursday deadline.

Good point, and it is well made.

And I’ll also note that Mark Kirk did vote for the deal, as did John McCain. So I’d respectfully ask that those two don’t get lumped in with Cruz and Lee, at least for tonight.

89 darthstar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:32:27pm

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of Obamacare, have you looked into your options via the exchanges yet? You really should. Get locked in now before you take a new job and you may do better than via employer-offered plans.

90 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:32:34pm

re: #83 psddluva4evah

More wingnut tears. Delicious!

91 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:33:11pm

re: #85 Decatur Deb

Most racist, ethnocentric place we’ve ever lived, and we’re in Baja Alabama now.

While NJ does typically go blue for the presidential elections, I think people underestimate the potential for derp there. It can be a fucking weird place, and sometimes it’s very unexpected even to the people who live there.

I know CA has its own problems but I don’t regret moving out here.

92 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:33:19pm

re: #84 Lidane

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Oh, I see. It was yet another DERP from Caribou Barbie.

93 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:33:22pm

re: #82 klys

Take heart! Sussex hasn’t reported in yet! There is still hope!

Just called for Booker.

94 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:33:53pm

The AP is calling it for Booker. : )

95 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:34:28pm

re: #84 Lidane

Lemon margarita???
Bleh.

96 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:34:34pm
97 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:00pm
98 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:15pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

Just called for Booker.

That scream as it was called was Karl Rove, I presume.

99 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:22pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

Just called for Booker.

WOOT WOOT.

I called and let my sister know. :D

Hell, she said my mother described Lonegan as scary this morning. Which means there might even have been a net vote for Booker from the house.

100 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:24pm

re: #96 Gus

All over but wingnut whining. And Whirred peas. They go hand in hand.

101 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:27pm

re: #89 darthstar

Speaking of Obamacare, have you looked into your options via the exchanges yet? You really should. Get locked in now before you take a new job and you may do better than via employer-offered plans.

Note that ‘locked-in’ means actually submitting the first monthly premium to the insurance company you pick. There is no commitment until then, no matter what you do online. The fear of getting obligated worries some people.

102 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:28pm
103 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:35:32pm

Ted Cruz is on his way to NJ to show them how to shut down the state until the Dems agree to negotiate over the election results.

104 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:36:08pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

That scream as it was called was Karl Rove, I presume.

Or Dick Morris.

105 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:36:18pm
106 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:36:22pm

re: #93 Skip Intro

Just called for Booker.

I felt a great disturbance in the Derp. It was as if a million wingnuts cried out in terror… and their heads suddenly asplode.

107 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:36:23pm

re: #96 Gus

Splendid news. Special elections are strange beasts, so it’s good to have this result in hand rather than just being expected.

108 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:37:09pm
109 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:37:13pm

re: #100 lawhawk

All over but wingnut whining. And Whirred peas. They go hand in hand.

If I ever host an election viewing party, there will be pea soup.

110 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:37:16pm

re: #91 klys

While NJ does typically go blue for the presidential elections, I think people underestimate the potential for derp there. It can be a fucking weird place, and sometimes it’s very unexpected even to the people who live there.

I know CA has its own problems but I don’t regret moving out here.

My kid was punched out his first day of school because his Irish name sounded jewish to the local omadons.

111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:37:26pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

Good point, and it is well made.

And I’ll also note that Mark Kirk did vote for the deal, as did John McCain. So I’d respectfully ask that those two don’t get lumped in with Cruz and Lee, at least for tonight.

Except Kirk voted against cloture a couple of days ago, after saying he would, like the shitheel he’s shown himself to be.

There is nothing to be salvaged from the GOP. Nobody in the GOP looked good in this, at all. The only person who looked remotely good was Christie and that’s because he had fuck-all to do with it.

The GOP reps and senators have shown themselves to be completely irresponsible assholes who are willing to do unimaginable damage to this country for deeply stupid reasons.

112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:37:42pm
113 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:38:02pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

My kid was punched out his first day of school because his Irish name sounded jewish to the local omadons.

Funny. In my neck of the woods, we get punched out for having Irish names.

114 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:38:23pm

re: #110 Decatur Deb

My kid was punched out his first day of school because his Irish name sounded jewish to the local omadons.

…yeah, that would be Jersey.

115 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:39:06pm

re: #88 Dark_Falcon

Good point, and it is well made.

And I’ll also note that Mark Kirk did vote for the deal, as did John McCain. So I’d respectfully ask that those two don’t get lumped in with Cruz and Lee, at least for tonight.

Sure, whatever. They could have gotten the debt ceiling off their plates until after the next election, but they shit that bed thoroughly (and in the process Kirk reneged on his promise.)

Now Republicans get to remind the country of how unpopular they are on this issue again just as primary season rolls around. The Tea Party is sharpening their knives for that battle.

Begun, the GOP wars have.

116 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:39:37pm

re: #113 thedopefishlives

Funny. In my neck of the woods, we get punched out for having Irish names.

Heh. Our Dutch next door neighbor said we were Micks, ‘but we were alright’.

117 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:40:30pm

re: #111 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Except Kirk voted against cloture a couple of days ago, after saying he would, like the shitheel he’s shown himself to be.

There is nothing to be salvaged from the GOP. Nobody in the GOP looked good in this, at all. The only person who looked remotely good was Christie and that’s because he had fuck-all to do with it.

The GOP reps and senators have shown themselves to be completely irresponsible assholes who are willing to do unimaginable damage to this country for deeply stupid reasons.

It is also hard to believe that we will not have a repeat of this nonsense in a few weeks.

The Teahadis will certainly be up for it, and the only way it won’t happen is if Boehner makes it very clear at the start that he will not create another circus like this again. That would require much more spine than Boehner has demonstrated thus far.

118 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:40:32pm

re: #116 Decatur Deb

Heh. Our Dutch next door neighbor said we were Micks, ‘but we were alright’.

I grew up in Chicago’s southeast surburbs (also known as “Northwest Indiana”). Everyone around there was a -ski of some sort. To their credit, the Polish kids weren’t really that prejudiced against Irish, just nerds.

119 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:40:51pm
120 missliberties  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:40:58pm

re: #56 Weet

re: #56 Weet

“There is an agreement tonight that Congress will go to conference over the budget differences between the Senate and House. But 21 times Republican Senators have blocked going to conference.”


This is the most maddening aspect. If we had a real media they would have reported on this really vile obstruction on a budget conference committee that has been going on for six months.

Think about it. We went through a shut down and a near default just to get the mother*cking tea party to go back to regular order and sit at a conference table. It’s freaking unbelievable!!

121 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:41:11pm

re: #107 EPR-radar

Splendid news. Special elections are strange beasts, so it’s good to have this result in hand rather than just being expected.

Also, it’s looking like kind of a blowout. Validating the theory that the polls, if anything, are still systematically overestimating GOP support.

Cold water for the Cult of the Unskewed.

122 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:41:31pm

The Fantasy World of Steve Lonegan.

Lonegan to House Republicans: Wait For My Victory, Obama Will Fold

GOP nominee for U.S. Senate Steve Lonegan today urged Republicans in the House of Representatives not to give into President Barack Obama’s demands for re-opening the government and raising the federal debt ceiling, declaring, “When I win, Obama will fold.”

“Republicans need to hold firm because seven days from today when Bob Menendez escorts me down the Senate aisle for my swearing in, the message about what our party should do will be clear for all,” Lonegan maintained.

“I have come as far as I have in this campaign by ignoring the advice from all the pollsters and consultants who have told me to change what I think and change who I am,” Lonegan added. “New Jerseyans are looking for a leader who fights for working taxpayers, not a Hollywood wannabe like Cory Booker who will rubber stamp the President’s far-left wing agenda.”

Lonegan says his internal polling shows a neck-and-neck race in the U.S. Senate contest and that all the momentum is in his favor. “My victory in this election on Wednesday will send a message to Barack Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi that the American people want an end to Obamacare and the rest of the President’s radical agenda.”

The former three-term Bogota mayor called on Republicans to stop listening to the same consultants and pollsters who blew the 2012 election and who are telling the GOP to fold and instead stand firm for seven more days.

moremonmouthmusings.net

123 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:41:46pm

re: #106 thedopefishlives

I felt a great disturbance in the Derp. It was as if a million wingnuts cried out in terror… and their heads suddenly asplode.

Stay on Target!

124 thedopefishlives  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:42:05pm

re: #123 Dark_Falcon

Stay on Target!

It’s certainly better than Wal-Mart.

125 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:42:20pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

Also, it’s looking like kind of a blowout. Validating the theory that the polls, if anything, are still systematically overestimating GOP support.

Cold water for the Cult of the Unskewed.

I have to believe that the GOP temper tantrum depressed Lonegan by at least several percent. Hopefully that sticks like glue.

126 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:42:39pm

re: #118 thedopefishlives

I grew up in Chicago’s southeast surburbs (also known as “Northwest Indiana”). Everyone around there was a -ski of some sort. To their credit, the Polish kids weren’t really that prejudiced against Irish, just nerds.

Irish and Polish did OK in Pittsburgh. It was a Catholic thing, and Joe Mazeroski, and the fukn’ polkas.

127 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:43:27pm

re: #121 goddamnedfrank

Also, it’s looking like kind of a blowout. Validating the theory that the polls, if anything, are still systematically overestimating GOP support.

Cold water for the Cult of the Unskewed.

Chris Christie was wise to make sure he kept away from Steve Lonegan. People who live in the real world should as a rule stay away from delusional loons.

128 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:43:35pm

re: #122 Skip Intro

Thanks for posting this —- I had forgotten about that comedy masterpiece.

What kind of rock-ribbed conservative gets high on his own supply in public?

129 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:43:58pm

Cats will now have to wait in Newark to be rescued. But Booker rescues one DC cat from the insanity:

130 Aqua Obama  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:44:26pm

I guess the Lonegan campaign PACs telling people to vote on Nov. 5th didn’t work out as planned.

131 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:44:27pm

re: #94 Justanotherhuman

The AP is calling it for Booker. : )

TURN THE MACHINES BACK ON!

132 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:44:30pm

re: #119 Gus

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YAY!!

133 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:44:55pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

Chris Christie was wise to make sure he kept away from Steve Lonegan. People who live in the real world should as a rule stay away from delusional loons.

This is why Christie is the GOP candidate I would be most concerned about in a 2016 general election.

Fortunately, running the tea bagger gauntlet in the GOP primaries should be impossible for him.

134 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:45:18pm

re: #122 Skip Intro

The Fantasy World of Steve Lonegan.

moremonmouthmusings.net

Hahahahaha, I read there and they talk about Lonegan “underperforming” in Monmouth.

Monmouth County could be one of the poster children for “I have mine, so fuck you.”

135 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:47:45pm

3888/6330 446,416, 55% for Booker (winner) versus 350,401 and 44% for Lonegan.

136 lawhawk  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:50:07pm
137 nines09  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:50:44pm

Steve Lonegan a Few Minutes Ago

138 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:50:59pm

re: #135 lawhawk

3888/6330 446,416, 55% for Booker (winner) versus 350,401 and 44% for Lonegan.

Now:

3999/6330 Booker 465,604 56% /Lonegan 359,501 43%

139 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:51:01pm

Gus! Warren County has stolen Ocean’s lead!

140 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:51:10pm

re: #134 klys

Hahahahaha, I read there and they talk about Lonegan “underperforming” in Monmouth.

Monmouth County could be one of the poster children for “I have mine, so fuck you.”

Once Lonegan takes a lead in the polls, I don’t think he’s going to give it up.

141 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:51:46pm

This is good news for McCain.

142 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:51:53pm

re: #140 Kragar

Once Lonegan takes a lead in the polls, I don’t think he’s going to give it up.

This is good news for John McCain.

143 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:52:13pm

seven seconds…

144 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:52:49pm
145 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:53:05pm

re: #142 EPR-radar

This is good news for John McCain.

It actually is, since the kind of crazy who hates his guts just lost tonight.

146 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:53:15pm
147 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:53:17pm

Booker is really kicking ass.

3999/6330 Booker 465,604 56% /Lonegan 359,501 43%

148 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:53:18pm

re: #144 Lidane

Sarah Palin: telling America who not to vote for since 2008.

149 Varek Raith  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:53:40pm

Ok, off to bed.
Later.

150 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:54:03pm

re: #144 Lidane

What kind of idiot doesn’t know that the only way for a GOP candidate to win statewide office in a place like NJ is to depart significantly from Teahadi orthodoxy?

151 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:54:23pm

re: #145 Dark_Falcon

It actually is, since the kind of crazy who hates his guts just lost tonight.

That would be the same crazy that he sold out to in an effort to win the 2008 presidential election, right?

152 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:54:30pm

re: #150 EPR-radar

What kind of idiot doesn’t know that the only way for a GOP candidate to win statewide office in a place like NJ is to depart significantly from Teahadi orthodoxy?

Bryan Fischer.

153 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:55:13pm

re: #150 EPR-radar

What kind of idiot doesn’t know that the only way for a GOP candidate to win statewide office in a place like NJ is to depart significantly from Teahadi orthodoxy?

Republicans.

154 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:55:14pm
155 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:55:23pm

re: #151 klys

That would be the same crazy that he sold out to in an effort to win the 2008 presidential election, right?

“I was misinformed.”

156 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:55:59pm

re: #151 klys

That would be the same crazy that he sold out to in an effort to win the 2008 presidential election, right?

I would really like to hear a recording of the conversations where McCain’s running mate in 2008 was dictated to him.

157 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:56:18pm

I think what we’ve all learned from the NJ race tonight is that Steve Lonegan just wasn’t conservative enough.

Next time, GOP, don’t nominate another RINO.

158 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:56:42pm

Off topic: Check out this splendid gallery of stained glass images from J.R.R. Tolkien’s works. A sample:

Image: the_ring_by_breathing2004-d6ox5pe.jpg

Three Rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie

Some are from The Hobbit, some from LotR, and some are from The Silmarillion.

159 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:58:29pm

Your nightly dose of nightmare fuel…

Image: snappy.jpg

160 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:01pm

House is voting now on Debt/Budget deal.

161 AlexRogan  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:03pm

re: #157 Skip Intro

I think what we’ve all learned from the NJ race tonight is that Steve Lonegan just wasn’t conservative enough.

Next time, GOP, don’t nominate another RINO.

Tea-hee…

162 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:21pm

66 14

163 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:36pm

re: #159 Kragar

Your nightly dose of nightmare fuel…

Image: snappy.jpg

Damn you…WTF was that? : )

164 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:40pm
165 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 6:59:55pm

re: #159 Kragar

Your nightly dose of nightmare fuel…

Image: snappy.jpg

What the hell is that?

166 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:00pm

re: #162 Gus

66 14

The shrieks of rage when this passes will be somewhat fun to hear.

167 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:08pm
168 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:23pm

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

The shrieks of rage when this passes will be somewhat fun to hear.

69 18

169 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:34pm

re: #159 Kragar

Your nightly dose of nightmare fuel…

Image: snappy.jpg

Is that Brown Jenkin?

170 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:49pm

You can watch the vote here…

c-span.org

171 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:00:53pm
172 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:01:52pm
173 AlexRogan  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:02:25pm

re: #171 Lidane

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Maher may be a anti-vaxxer dick, but sometimes he actually gets in a good zinger.

174 Stephen T.  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:04:00pm

re: #173 AlexRogan

Is Maher still an anti-vaxxer? I thought he backed off that. Not that I follow him that closely. I prefer Penn Jillette’s snark over others any day.

175 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:05:11pm

Congressional Repubs cave, Booker gets elected, and Erickson loses his fucking mind.

Time to uncork the schadenfreude.

176 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:06:29pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

Congressional Repubs cave, Booker gets elected, and Erickson loses his fucking mind.

Time to uncork the schadenfreude.

I’m saving my schadenfreude for when Cuccinelli and the nutburger Lt. Gov. candidate most likely get torpedoed in VA in a few weeks.

177 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:06:51pm

re: #161 AlexRogan

Tea-hee…

Tee-hee now, but I put the odds at 50% that’s what Limbaugh will say tomorrow.

178 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:07:31pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

Congressional Repubs cave, Booker gets elected, and Erickson loses his fucking mind.

Time to uncork the schadenfreude.

How about a nice bottle of Chardonnay instead? I still can’t have any, though (damn leg).

179 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:07:58pm

re: #176 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

I’m saving my schadenfreude for when Cuccinelli and the nutburger Lt. Gov. candidate most likely get torpedoed in VA in a few weeks.

I’ll drink to that!

180 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:08:01pm

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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Now, you know you’re not supposed to hurt AQ’s feelings, and should just let them go ahead w/their business of blowing up innocent people and people they don’t like, like US &, NATO troops and the other in-country troops trained by them. Bonus: Another big attack on the US. Dudebros to NSA: Let AQ alone!

181 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:08:38pm

re: #179 Targetpractice

I’ll drink to that!

Heh. I figure that would actually be a serious loss for the Teahadis.

182 Patricia Kayden  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:08:50pm

re: #175 Targetpractice

What did Erickson say?

183 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:08:58pm

re: #176 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

I’m saving my schadenfreude for when Cuccinelli and the nutburger Lt. Gov. candidate most likely get torpedoed in VA in a few weeks.

The back and forth over that election in the NRO comments was the best part of a very entertaining day.

I’m especially fond of the talking point that the only reason Cuccinelli is seen as extremist is media distortion. That whopper even leaves some Republicans gaping in disbelief.

184 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:10:07pm

re: #182 Patricia Kayden

What did Erickson say?

Usual rant: Conservatives have flushed out the “RINOs,” primary challengers all around, and the conservatives have “won” because they got the country to suffer for days due to the dickishness of one Rafael “Ted” Cruz.

185 psddluva4evah  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:10:34pm

I have never watched Hannity and I don’t plan to now either. But damn to be a fly on the wall for this:

‏@JamesFallows 46s
Stay tuned in! Hannity’s got CRUZ! RT @Schoobies: Megyn’s off, Hannity’s on — I’m outta here.

‏@JamesFallows 1m
On Fox, Ted Cruz is really hammering home stab-in-back thesis about Senate Republican leadership.

This idiot is gonna burn the party down!

186 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:10:43pm

Steve King is being a delusional jagoff.

187 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:11:24pm

re: #186 ProTARDISLiberal

Steve King is being a delusional jagoff.

188 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:11:48pm

Bill has Passed the House

189 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:11:56pm

That’s it.

190 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:11:59pm

It passed.

191 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:12:42pm

re: #183 EPR-radar

The back and forth over that election in the NRO comments was the best part of a very entertaining day.

I’m especially fond of the talking point that the only reason Cuccinelli is seen as extremist is media distortion. That whopper even leaves some Republicans gaping in disbelief.

Heh. I would be surprised if the RW’ers won in VA.

192 Decatur Deb  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:13:07pm

re: #190 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

It passed.

Now what the hell am I supposed to do with all these heirloom seeds?

193 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:13:16pm

What a stupid fucking drama trip that was. Seriously, the biggest loser was the GOP but that political ‘victory’ isn’t worth it. The only hope is that the Tea Party leaves the GOP rather than primarying, but I doubt it. They’ll primary because that’s a lot easier and some stupid billionaire will be able, thanks to Citizens United, to fund their wazoos to maximum effulgence.

194 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:14:26pm

To all the Nitwits who voted No…

Youtube Video

195 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:14:53pm

So far, 75 Republican Yea votes

WTF was this all about?

196 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:14:55pm

re: #191 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Heh. I would be surprised if the RW’ers won in VA.

Splash damage from the shutdown + debt ceiling fiasco should hurt their chances.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.

197 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:15:06pm

re: #193 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

What a stupid fucking drama trip that was. Seriously, the biggest loser was the GOP but that political ‘victory’ isn’t worth it. The only hope is that the Tea Party leaves the GOP rather than primarying, but I doubt it. They’ll primary because that’s a lot easier and some stupid billionaire will be able, thanks to Citizens United, fund their wazoos to maximum effulgence.

The Tea Partiers know that it’s easier for them to take over the GOP as it already has a national infrastructure; to build a new third-party infrastructure in all 50 states is a Herculean undertaking.

The only way they’ll go third-party is they try - and fail - to take over the GOP.

198 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:16:23pm

re: #196 EPR-radar

Splash damage from the shutdown + debt ceiling fiasco should hurt their chances.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer group of people.

That’s what I’m thinking too; it doesn’t help that the GOP candidates themselves have - shall we say - less than widespread appeal to centrist and moderate voters.

199 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:16:24pm

re: #195 blueraven

So far, 75 Republican Yea votes

WTF was this all about?

Party before country and loyalty to a hierarchy that was engaged in the delusional belief that it had leverage that was never there.

200 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:18:03pm

Prudence haz a sad…

201 SpaceJesus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:18:07pm

Fuck you Tea Party

202 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:18:49pm

re: #199 Targetpractice

Party before country and loyalty to a hierarchy that was engaged in the delusional belief that it had leverage that was never there.

Too true. That why this entire circus is essentially Boehner’s fault.

If he had simply said 3 weeks ago that anyone could bring a CR/debt ceiling bill to the House floor, this nonsense would not have gotten off the ground.

203 Charles Johnson  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:19:32pm
204 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:19:38pm

re: #200 Vicious Babushka

Prudence haz a sad…

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Prudence will have an even bigger sad when Cuccinelli and his running mate likely go down to defeat in VA next month.

205 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:20:13pm

70+ votes and counting, but Boehner said time and time again he didn’t believe there was enough votes to pass either a clean CR or DL. The man should be fucking tarred and feathered.

206 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:20:21pm

FINALLY

207 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:21:07pm

re: #205 Targetpractice

70+ votes and counting, but Boehner said time and time again he didn’t believe there was enough votes to pass either a clean CR or DL. The man should be fucking tarred and feathered.

Boehner was doing Republican math, where only the votes of the GOP caucus count.

208 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:22:41pm
209 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:23:07pm

re: #207 EPR-radar

Boehner was doing Republican math, where only the votes of the GOP caucus count.

Yep. Billions in lost revenue, millions of people inconvenienced, the world markets once again shaken, all because Boehner thought he had a winning hand and wouldn’t fold no matter how badly the odds were against him.

210 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:23:15pm
211 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:24:54pm

re: #203 Charles Johnson

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212 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:25:23pm

Wingnut tears are so sweet.

213 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:26:26pm

re: #197 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

The Tea Partiers know that it’s easier for them to take over the GOP as it already has a national infrastructure; to build a new third-party infrastructure in all 50 states is a Herculean undertaking.

The only way they’ll go third-party is they try - and fail - to take over the GOP.

This is why it made no sense for the moderates to march in lockstep with Cruz and the Teahadis on this sisyphean reconnoiter of the Valley of Death. They knew from the beginning where they were going, what the odds were, and how much damage it would do to their party.

They helped their real enemies destroy the Party because acting individually in their own best interests was unthinkable if it meant going against their worthless, gutless leadership. This is what clinical insanity looks like.

214 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:27:06pm

re: #210 Gus

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Now that’s how you spike a football.

215 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:28:22pm

MOAR DELICIOUS TEARS

216 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:28:46pm

Freepers taking the news as you’d expect.


That’s exactly what I said this morning..the Dems got EVERYTHING they wanted..its the same damn bill from yesterday except the cronies are still exempt from Obamacare
__________

Now on to “repeat and rinse” immigration amnesty.
__________

Why do we even bother? Seriously wanting to take everything I’ve got and go to Panama. Only my love of my family stops me.
__________

All the RINOs must be voted out. It’s the only way I can see going forward.

217 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:28:47pm

WTF

218 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:28:56pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

This is why it made no sense for the moderates to march in lockstep with Cruz and the Teahadis on this sisyphean reconnoiter of the Valley of Death. They knew from the beginning where they were going, what the odds were, and how much damage it would do to their party.

They helped their real enemies destroy the Party because acting individually in their own best interests was unthinkable if it meant going against their worthless, gutless leadership. This is what clinical insanity looks like.

Worthless leadership combined with the fervent desire to obey produces very strange results.

The only element of rationality in this is that the threat of being primaried from the right is very real to most GOP members of congress.

219 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:29:37pm

re: #212 Vicious Babushka

Wingnut tears are so sweet.

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They aren’t really sobbing though, since they can still blow their dog whistles.

220 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:29:51pm

re: #213 goddamnedfrank

This is why it made no sense for the moderates to march in lockstep with Cruz and the Teahadis on this sisyphean reconnoiter of the Valley of Death. They knew from the beginning where they were going, what the odds were, and how much damage it would do to their party.

They helped their real enemies destroy the Party because acting individually in their own best interests was unthinkable if it meant going against their worthless, gutless leadership. This is what clinical insanity looks like.

Pretty much. Will the GOP learn from this?

I doubt it.

221 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:29:57pm

re: #216 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

MOAR. I crave MOAR delicious wingnut tears. They nourish me.

222 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:30:29pm
223 Skip Intro  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:30:59pm
All the RINOs must be voted out. It’s the only way I can see going forward.

Freeper Logic, going back to 2001.

Well, for sure it will work next time.

224 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:32:12pm

re: #222 Kragar

It was not a priori obvious at the beginning that the GOP had no chance of winning this. If the Dems had capitulated, as they have done too often before, the story would end up being very different

225 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:32:22pm

re: #215 Vicious Babushka

MOAR DELICIOUS TEARS

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“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

226 CarleeCork  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:33:39pm

re: #217 Vicious Babushka

WTF

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It’s called insanity.

227 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:35:35pm

re: #222 Kragar

I’m pleased to see 0 votes against this from the Democrats.

228 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:35:59pm

re: #216 Dr Lizardo, The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla

Freepers taking the news as you’d expect.

That’s exactly what I said this morning..the Dems got EVERYTHING they wanted..its the same damn bill from yesterday except the cronies are still exempt from Obamacare
__________

Now on to “repeat and rinse” immigration amnesty.
__________

Why do we even bother? Seriously wanting to take everything I’ve got and go to Panama. Only my love of my family stops me.
__________

All the RINOs must be voted out. It’s the only way I can see going forward.

There are a few folks over there who are beginning to realize they are in the minority-it isn’t all evil liberals stealing elections.

229 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:36:04pm

So…. We get to do this again in January? Thrilled to not default, but just the idea that my perspective should be somehow grateful at this time just effing galls me. Stockholm syndrome is just not my style.

230 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:36:48pm

re: #218 EPR-radar

The only element of rationality in this is that the threat of being primaried from the right is very real to most GOP members of congress.

Yeah, but that threat existed whether or not they went along with this insane plan and the subsequent demolition of their popularity. That’s the whole point, they’re in this civil war whether they like it or not. Time to take a cue from the Democrats and refuse to acquiesce to the demands of economic terrorists.

If they’d stood their ground against the extremist they could have at least counted on Wall Street / big business funding. Now they’ve not only enraged the Tea Party further, they’ve damaged the Republican brand, damaged its fundraising apparatus, and put otherwise safe districts at risk of going Democratic in a general election.

From an establishment GOP perspective this has been an absolute cluster-fuck, they did everything wrong.

231 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:38:08pm

re: #229 Political Atheist

So…. We get to do this again in January? Thrilled to not default, but just the idea that my perspective should be somehow grateful at this time just effing galls me. Stockholm syndrome is just not my style.

One way to look at this is that the Wall Street boys have 10+ weeks to rake Boehner over the coals. Coming face to face with his true masters when they are angry should be…. educational.

232 Belafon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:38:21pm

re: #229 Political Atheist

How long do you think the Republicans will hold out a second time?

233 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:38:22pm

re: #228 calochortus

There are a few folks over there who are beginning to realize they are in the minority-it isn’t all evil liberals stealing elections.

To be sure; when the next ‘purity purge’ gets underway at FR - I’m thinking shortly before the primary season cranks up - they’ll be gone.

Can’t have anyone pointing out uncomfortable truths now, can they?

234 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:38:46pm
235 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:39:01pm

87 Republicans voted for this bill, but not a single one of them could find the balls to sign the discharge petition before today. Un-fucking-believable.

236 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:39:02pm
237 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:41:11pm

re: #229 Political Atheist

Possibly the leadership will be somewhat chastened by this experience and won’t let it go so far.
I saw a comment somewhere that the wording is such that it will take positive action to stop the government funding/raising of the debt limit. Therefore refusing to consider it wouldn’t stop funding. It linked to a Breitbart site so it could be total BS.

238 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:41:17pm

re: #234 Gus

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WTF?

239 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:41:26pm

re: #230 goddamnedfrank

I suspect that the GOP establishment is conflicted. They like the absolutism on taxes that the Tea Party brings to the table, but blowing up the economy is not what they want. They need to figure out what they want to stand for, and then fight to take back the party, if it is still possible to do so.

Otherwise, the teabaggers will get control of the GOP by default.

240 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:41:37pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

Sun Tzu?

241 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:41:40pm

SoundCloud

242 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:42:04pm

re: #240 Dark_Falcon

Sun Tzu?

Indeed.

243 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:42:41pm

re: #225 Targetpractice

“Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win.”

Love me some Sun Tzu.

244 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:43:23pm

re: #234 Gus

Paying your debts mocks God? Who knew?

245 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:43:28pm

re: #238 goddamnedfrank

WTF?

246 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:43:47pm

Knottsferatu.

247 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:44:20pm

re: #193 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

What a stupid fucking drama trip that was. Seriously, the biggest loser was the GOP but that political ‘victory’ isn’t worth it. The only hope is that the Tea Party leaves the GOP rather than primarying, but I doubt it. They’ll primary because that’s a lot easier and some stupid billionaire will be able, thanks to Citizens United, to fund their wazoos to maximum effulgence.

I disagree in part here. Having this kind of political victory over the GOP/tea party is well worth the price paid. I honestly thought we’d need to go into default before these idiots backed off.

248 Political Atheist  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:44:54pm

re: #232 Belafon

How long do you think the Republicans will hold out a second time?

I don’t think they learned the right lesson this week. So-
I am so not going to forecast what that bunch might come up with next. I’m fed up with this self/artificially induced pattern of crisis in the budget. Sequester, shut down, threaten default, lather, rinse, repeat. Tip and Ronnie never went to this extreme, not did Newt and Pres. Clinton.

GOP=old car. Needs a new speaker and Cruz control.

249 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:45:07pm

re: #222 Kragar

Ted Cruz owes us $24 billion.

250 CuriousLurker  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:46:01pm

b_sharp - Just stopping by to drop this off for you. The rest of you guys please make sure he sees it, okay? *snicker*

It’s been a good night for Dems—I’m glad the government can get back to the business of running the country now.

Have a good night, all.

251 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:46:52pm

re: #249 jaunte

Ted Cruz owes us $24 billion.

No, that would be Boehner. All Cruz did was huff and puff and get a long list of potential future donors. Boehner is the one with the power to control what goes onto the House floor.

252 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:46:57pm
253 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:47:14pm

And with that, good night Lizards. A good day, all in all.

254 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:47:16pm

Lizards time to call it a night for a couple of reasons.

1. It’s time to start dinner and
2. I just wrecked my keyboard by slamming my clinched fists into it because Safari decided to reset itself after I just spent 20 min typing up a message that got erased because Apple’s software people can’t make this program fucking work right under Windows 7. Add to that the time it took me to type and edit this because I have a bunch of “chicolets” all over the floor.

Probably will step on one of them in the morning.

Apple,you owe me a keyboard.

255 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:47:45pm

re: #251 EPR-radar

Somehow I forgot he was there.

256 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:48:42pm

re: #245 Gus

Wow, that’s some high test fucknuttery. I love all the shhh-ing. You know it’s good when you can hear the embarrassment, the way it imprints itself on the room tone.

257 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:50:51pm

re: #256 goddamnedfrank

Wow, that’s some high test fucknuttery. I love all the shhh-ing. You know it’s good when you can hear the embarrassment, the way it imprints itself on the room tone.

“God will not be mocked” over budget legislation. The God-botting of all political issues by the US right is complete.

258 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:51:21pm

Meanwhlie, in Bizzaroland…

Ted Cruz Blames Senate GOP For ‘Bombing Our Own Troops’ In The House

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) stood behind his effort to use a government shutdown to defund the health care law Wednesday, blaming his fellow Senate Republicans for getting in the way of victory in the House.

Cruz told conservative talk show host Mark Levin that Republican senators had been “firing their cannons” at the House Republican caucus and likened the Senate GOP to an “air force bombing our own troops.”

Cruz also said that the Senate is “undoubtedly” broken.

“It’s a broken institution,” he said, adding that Senate Republicans are too concerned with “getting invited to the cocktail parties.”

The Senate did not take the full brunt of Cruz’s blame. The Texas firebrand called the Obama White House “the imperial presidency,” and said that Obama was “dangerous” because he “thinks he is above the law.”

Ultimately, Cruz said that his effort to defund Obamacare, which died in the Senate Wednesday night, was not a failure.

“It was an incredible victory,” Cruz said.

*toketoketokecough* Nope, still doesn’t make any sense.

259 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:52:29pm

re: #258 Targetpractice

I don’t want to know where you have to stick the meth to come up with that level of drivel.

260 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:52:47pm

re: #257 EPR-radar

“God will not be mocked” over budget legislation. The God-botting of all political issues by the US right is complete.

I don’t understand it myself. I don’t see how budget legislation mocks God.

261 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:53:28pm


262 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:54:31pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand it myself. I don’t see how budget legislation mocks God.

Sounds like she was having a break down. Kind of sad to me.

263 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:54:34pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand it myself. I don’t see how budget legislation mocks God.

Probably just snapped.

264 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:54:35pm

re: #231 EPR-radar

One way to look at this is that the Wall Street boys have 10+ weeks to rake Boehner over the coals. Coming face to face with his true masters when they are angry should be…. educational.

Why do I remember Vader’s “Apology accepted”?

265 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:55:02pm

So the TP “enemies list” after today includes

- House RINOs
- Senate RINOs
- John Boehner
- Mitch McConnell
- Harry Reid
- Nancy Pelosi
- Barack Obama
- “Liberal” media

Am I missing anyone?

266 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:55:03pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand it myself. I don’t see how budget legislation mocks God.

A functioning government is an affront to an all powerful deity.

I’m thinking said deity must have a really tiny dick to get so pissed off about everything.

267 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:55:32pm

re: #264 William Barnett-Lewis

Why do I remember Vader’s “Apology accepted”?

Something like “Others are not as forgiving as I am” would be more menacing.

268 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:55:44pm

re: #262 blueraven

Sounds like she was having a break down. Kind of sad to me.

Yeah, hearing the audio makes that seem highly likely.

269 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:56:33pm

re: #265 Targetpractice

So the TP “enemies list” after today includes

- House RINOs
- Senate RINOs
- John Boehner
- Mitch McConnell
- Harry Reid
- Nancy Pelosi
- Barack Obama
- “Liberal” media

Am I missing anyone?

You? Me? The majority of American voters?

270 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:57:11pm

re: #262 blueraven

Sounds like she was having a break down. Kind of sad to me.

Fair point. However it remains true that unreasonable religious fervor over political issues is now SOP for the US right.

271 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:57:50pm

re: #269 calochortus

You? Me? The majority of American voters?

All who think the Enlightenment was a step forward.

272 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:58:15pm

re: #264 William Barnett-Lewis

Why do I remember Vader’s “Apology accepted”?

Maybe Obama should send Boehner a package with a unicycle and a pair of clown shoes with a note saying, “I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.”

/ ;)

273 EPR-radar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:59:17pm

re: #272 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe Obama should send Boehner a package with a unicycle and a pair of clown shoes with a note saying, “I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.”

/ ;)

If Obama is as clever as I think he is, he’d have Chamber of Commerce surrogates make the threats.

274 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:59:45pm

re: #262 blueraven

Sounds like she was having a break down. Kind of sad to me.

Other factors or do you think the politics got to her?

275 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 7:59:52pm

re: #260 Dark_Falcon

I don’t understand it myself. I don’t see how budget legislation mocks God.

This is the tragic, as opposed to dangerous, result of conservative stochastic terrorism. You have right wing media and politicians pumping religiously minded people’s heads full of absolutely insane nonsense.

She could have been referring to the absence of a conscience clause for employers to impose their beliefs on employee contraception coverage. It’s not surprising, the kind of rhetoric employed by Cruz, Limbaugh, Fischer, and most conservative politicians and commentators eventually finds purchase in the most borderline an fragile minds.

I’d say ask Dr. Tiller how this works, but you can’t. At least this time the results weren’t violent.

276 Targetpractice  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:00:22pm

re: #272 Feline Fearless Leader

Maybe Obama should send Boehner a package with a unicycle and a pair of clown shoes with a note saying, “I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it any further.”

/ ;)

This deal’s getting worse all the time.

277 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:01:23pm

re: #276 Targetpractice

This deal’s getting worse all the time.

And you will refer to yourself as “Mary”.

Youtube Video

278 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:02:19pm

Does anyone know if the BBC has pulled its head from its arse and released the 50th Trailer yet?

279 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:03:24pm

re: #262 blueraven

Sounds like she was having a break down. Kind of sad to me.

Not necessarily. The stuff she’s saying is pretty much right in line with a bunch of conservative evangelical churches that view this nation as unique product of divine providence. Including the bit about Freemasons, who are frequently characterized as secularist bogeymen because of their “watchmaker God.”

280 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:04:53pm

re: #252 Gus

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does that make 87 republican house members who will be primaried by teabag morons who will lose to democrats in 2014?

281 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:06:21pm

re: #278 ProTARDISLiberal

I have no idea, but are you feeling better than you were this morning?

282 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:08:34pm

re: #276 Targetpractice

[Obama looks down into the carbon-freezing chamber he just knocked the House GOP into]

Obama: All too easy. Perhaps you are not as strong as Nate Silver thought.

[Just as the carbonite starts pouring in, something leaps out of the chamber to grab onto the cables above]

Paul Ryan [looking down]: Maybe I’ll surprise you.

/Just having fun with the theme, as well as Paul Ryan being part of a House study group calling themselves the “Jedi Council”.

283 sagehen  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:08:35pm

re: #20 thedopefishlives

MN has a history of being progressive in the area of health care and insurance. Mind you, it’s not Romneycare, but we do alright taking care of our own.

MN has the Mayo Clinic; they’re pioneers on team treatment, records compilation, family multi-malady consolidated management, infection abatement, nutrition, stress reduction, and many other cost control measures.

That’s why for the Medicare-eligible population MN’s per capita claim$ are less than half what TX runs up — and with better outcomes.

284 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:10:17pm

re: #274 Dark_Falcon

Other factors or do you think the politics got to her?

No idea. freemasons wrote the constitution, cant serve two masters…
Just crazy talk. Maybe stress/medication related

285 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:12:02pm

Computer is crapping around, but yes, a little. This is from the 5 year old Laptop by the way.

And I see the BBC is still fucking off in a corner.

286 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:13:33pm
“This whole fight was completely preventable,” added Bachmann, who recently told a Biblical prophecy radio program that we are living in the End Times. “The problem is the administration said early on they were willing to see the American government go into default so they could have their agenda—that’s what the gambled on.” Republicans, however “are not willing to risk the full faith and credit of the United States.”
m.motherjones.com
287 Kragar  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:13:35pm
288 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:17:53pm

re: #286 jaunte

IMAX-level projection. Again.

289 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:17:53pm

Daily Mail and Guardian merge to create new Moral Guardian paper

In a move that has surprised media experts, the Daily Mail and the Guardian are to join forces to create the Moral Guardian, a new paper that combines both moral outrage AND delicious hummus recipes.

In their first edition they have an exclusive scoop about how Romanian immigrants are coming over here and bringing with them delicious new cuisine, how Brussels bureaucrats are forcing everyone to do mindfulness yoga, plus leaked photos from the NSA revealing that Edward Snowden may be suffering from cellulite.

290 blueraven  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:21:23pm

re: #286 jaunte

Oh Michele, you are Amazing!

smh

291 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:21:27pm

I see America’s God-problem is becoming more vocal.

292 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:21:29pm

re: #287 Kragar

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vote zorg speaker, puny humans! zorg will incinerate your enemies, not give in like some insignificant orange hued biped!

293 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:22:14pm

re: #284 blueraven

No idea. freemasons wrote the constitution, cant serve two masters…

Dogs fucked the pope, no fault of mine.

Youtube Video

294 jamesfirecat  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:24:31pm

re: #282 Dark_Falcon

[Obama looks down into the carbon-freezing chamber he just knocked the House GOP into]

Obama: All too easy. Perhaps you are not as strong as Nate Silver thought.

[Just as the carbonite starts pouring in, something leaps out of the chamber to grab onto the cables above]

Paul Ryan [looking down]: Maybe I’ll surprise you.

/Just having fun with the theme, as well as Paul Ryan being part of a House study group calling themselves the “Jedi Council”.

Ryan didn’t surprise Obama when they went head to head in 2012.

295 ProTARDISLiberal  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:26:32pm

From SFX it is appearing that Rose will be reduced in role heavily.

This is a good thing. She was not a good companion. Much better to see Clara without a verbal shootout with the unarmed Rose.

296 jaunte  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:27:35pm
297 freetoken  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:28:09pm

I see the car thief voted Yea.

Does that make him a RINO now?

Here is the reality of politics - Issa is in a district he wins by a margin with a bit of breathing room, but it is also a district with lots of government employees, military, contractors, etc.

The reality of budgeting is that $$$== jobs.

298 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:31:17pm

re: #297 freetoken

I see the car thief voted Yea.

Does that make him a RINO now?

Yes, I can’t immediately find it but Freepers turned on him this afternoon.

Edit: actually it was apparently yesterday, but I still can’t find it. Not wasting more time on it.

299 Aqua Obama  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:32:56pm

Paul Ryan voted no.

300 dog philosopher  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:34:22pm

It Seems The Government Shut Down Unexpectedly Last Time

Would You Like To

[] Re-Start Government Normally

[] Start Government in Safe Mode And Run Diagnostics

301 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:35:35pm

re: #298 calochortus

Yes, I can’t immediately find it but Freepers turned on him this afternoon.

He needed to keep the military personnel and defense contractors in his district happy, and that meant accepting the Freepers’ rage. It was the smart play, IMO.

302 Aqua Obama  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:40:17pm

New Mexico, this is all your fault:

Image: Z6LGcaB.png

303 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:41:08pm

re: #302 Aqua Obama

New Mexico, this is all your fault:

Image: Z6LGcaB.png

Lol. Poor WW

304 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:42:00pm

re: #301 Dark_Falcon

He needed to keep the military personnel and defense contractors in his district happy, and that meant accepting the Freepers’ rage. It was the smart play, IMO.

If all you care about is getting re-elected, I suppose so. Oh. We’re talking about Issa here, so yeah, that’s all he cares about.

305 Stanley Sea  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:45:52pm

Ok. What is the shocking new French secret (w busty women)

306 Lidane  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:46:42pm

re: #271 EPR-radar

All who think the Enlightenment movable type was a step forward.

FTFY

“Everything was fine until that asshole Gutenberg made it possible for the average person to read!”

307 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:48:26pm

re: #305 Stanley Sea

No idea. I’m supposed to be losing my memory and be in need of a thingie I can stick on things and locate with my iOS device, if the ads are to be believed.

308 Weet  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:50:00pm

re: #74 goddamnedfrank

Nitpick, they didn’t vote against cloture, they voted against the deal. Had one of them voted against cloture then the mandatory 30 hours of debate would have begun and we’d be guaranteed to blow past the Thursday deadline.

Well, no, what I said is correct. 60 votes are needed for cloture. A cloture vote was taken and 16 Republicans voted against it — those that I listed. That vote was 83 to 16.

Then they voted on the bill itself. It passed 81 to 18. The 18 included those 16 I listed, plus Coburn and Scott.

309 calochortus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:50:12pm

Time to log off for the night. Hasta Mañana lizards.
May sanity enjoy a resurgence in the coming days.

310 Aqua Obama  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:50:38pm

Freep is radioactive tonight.

311 klys  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:52:05pm

re: #295 ProTARDISLiberal

Just a reminder that every Companion has their pros and cons, and so some of us actually like Rose.

312 Bubblehead II  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:56:03pm

I’m back. The Mrs had a spare keyboard (PS-2 v USB) from an older computer stashed away. After promising that I wouldn’t destroy it for at least a couple of years, she let me have it.

Damn, I love this woman

313 Gus  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 8:59:55pm

Good night.

314 sagehen  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 9:21:30pm

re: #250 CuriousLurker

Jon Favreau @jonfavs
Recent gifts from Canada: Ted Cruz, Keystone, and the company that built Healthcare.gov . Time to keep an eye on the northern border?
5:25 PM - 16 Oct 2013

They also gave us Celine Dion and Justin Bieber.

315 Interesting Times  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 9:23:56pm

re: #314 sagehen

They also gave us Celine Dion and Justin Bieber.

Both of whom would be better Speakers than John Boehner.

316 sagehen  Wed, Oct 16, 2013 9:27:35pm

re: #295 ProTARDISLiberal

From SFX it is appearing that Rose will be reduced in role heavily.

This is a good thing. She was not a good companion. Much better to see Clara without a verbal shootout with the unarmed Rose.

Is Donna in it?


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