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1 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:27:09am

Long time MS Democratic Congressman planning to run again…as a Republican

Gene Taylor is considering a run for the 4th District congressional seat he held for two decades, but if he runs it probably will be as a Republican.

“I wrestle with it,” said Taylor, who as a Democrat was defeated in 2010 by Republican U.S. Rep. Steven Palazzo.

He said the urge gets stronger when he remembers the good things he did. It’s stronger, for instance, when he meets a wounded veteran who remembers he got a visit from Taylor in the hospital. He also helped win approval for Tricare, the civilian health care system for military members, retirees and their dependents. He helped get armor for vehicles during the Iraq war, which saved troops who could have been killed by improvised explosive devices. More lives were saved when he helped get Self-Protection Adaptive Roller Kits installed on the vehicles, which set off the bombs before the vehicles rolled over them.

“You realize you made a difference,” he said.

He said he would have to run as a Republican to have any chance. Democrats, he said, were always in the minority, with about two-thirds of the people describing themselves as Republican or independent.

“By 2010, about two-thirds of the people in the district identified themselves as Republican,” he said. “I don’t know how much that has changed, if at all. I did notice that a lot of the people I served with at the state level have switched parties.

“Let’s face it. You can’t accomplish anything if you don’t get elected.”

The downside to being a Republican, he said, is the party is much tougher on those who don’t toe the party line. But he said he wouldn’t let that influence his voting.

“I was never a very good Democrat,” he said. “So I could be just as bad a Republican.”

Palazzo was elected after courting Tea Party groups, only to promptly ignore all the promises he made them when he got to Washington. It’s worth noting that he was one of the GOP House members who voted NO on yesterday’s debt deal.

2 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:29:27am

re: #1 Eclectic Cyborg

Long time MS Democratic Congressman planning to run again…as a Republican

Palazzo was elected after courting Tea Party groups, only to promptly ignore all the promises he made them when he got to Washington. It’s worth noting that he was one of the GOP House members who voted NO on yesterday’s debt deal.

Taylor has always been a DINO; an old school-type Dixiecrat poseur.

3 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:29:49am

CRYBABY

4 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:31:47am

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

CRYBABY

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“Obamacare victims”?

Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!

5 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:34:16am

re: #4 GeneJockey

“Obamacare victims”?

Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!

Insurance that hasn’t even kicked in yet mind you.

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:34:29am

re: #4 GeneJockey

“Obamacare victims”?

Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!

I think he’s talking about those poor shmucks who claim their premiums or their deductibles skyrocketed and they can’t afford the insurance BUT THEY’RE GOING TO GET FINED FOR NOT HAVING IT!!!11!!!

Thing is, whenever these sob stories are actually investigated, they turn out to be a bunch of bullshit.

7 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:36:01am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

Something something marble countertops slut-shaming something something.

8 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:37:33am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

I think he’s talking about those poor shmucks who claim their premiums or their deductibles skyrocketed and they can’t afford the insurance BUT THEY’RE GOING TO GET FINED FOR NOT HAVING IT!!!11!!!

Thing is, whenever these sob stories are actually investigated, they turn out to be a bunch of bullshit.

But confirmation bias will keep them alive.

9 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:38:12am

Today the junior Senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders will be speaking in Jackson. Senator Sanders, a self-described, “democratic socialist” will be hosted by the Mississippi Democrat Party. Mississippi Democrats will even have him as the honored guest at a fundraiser this evening.

Senator Sanders has made a successful political career based on demonizing the success of entrepreneurs and small businesses. He believes in high taxes and excessive regulations. These policies put him out of step with the values of the people in this state. Mississippi is succeeding in spite of his and President Obama’s liberal policies.

This is a Senator who praised European style health care as the model for the United States.

This is a Senator who has been endorsed by members of the Communist Party.

This is a Senator who has a 100% lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood.

This is the person who the Democrats have invited to speak on their behalf.

The above statement was NOT in fact written by a Tea Party group, it is an OFFICIAL message put out by the Mississippi Republican Party.

Ain’t my state grand?

10 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:39:39am

I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.

No response yet.

11 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:27am

re: #10 GeneJockey

I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.

No response yet.

Send them that Mitt Romney “ER” video.

12 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:34am

re: #5 Eclectic Cyborg

Insurance that hasn’t even kicked in yet mind you.

I was keeping an eye on the TV at the gym last night, and that Erin Whatsername’s show was on. Some Teahadi was droning on about the ‘harms to so many Americans’ caused by Obamacare, and Erin stopped him and asked ‘But Obamacare hasn’t really started yet. How can people be harmed by something that hasn’t taken effect yet?’

The Teahadi had no answer, and I nearly fell off the stationary bike because a CNN yapping head actually asked a good question.

13 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:40:54am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

In many parts of the country, there is effectively no difference between the tea party and the GOP.

14 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:41:29am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Mississippi is succeeding

[citation needed]

15 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:42:53am

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

Send them that Mitt Romney “ER” video.

You mean the one where he says nobody is denied care? I’ve actually seen wingnuts use that argument.

Of course, you know The Poors could afford health insurance if they didn’t keep buying cigarettes, booze, tattoos, lottery tickets, and big screen TVs.

16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:42:54am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.

17 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:17am

re: #16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.

Secesh pool.

18 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:29am

Never mind.

19 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:57am

Prudence can haz a ragegasm.

20 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:43:58am

re: #14 erik_t

[citation needed]

Well technically we ARE succeeding…

…at being the poorest state in the nation

…at being the fattest state in the nation

…at leading the country in Teen pregnancies

…at cutting off all access to abortion

21 BongCrodny  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:44:13am

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Obamacare victims

Dear Mr. Shapiro:

Get back to me when the bodies start lining the halls and streets, you worthless little shitbag.

Regards,

Bong

22 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:44:44am

re: #16 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

What is Mississippi succeeding in exactly? No offense but by every measure it’s a cesspool.

I disagree. There ARE good people down here on the coast, it’s not all backwoods yokels with missing teeth.

23 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:45:26am

re: #21 BongCrodny

Dear Mr. Shapiro:

Get back to me when the bodies start lining the halls and streets, you worthless little shitbag.

Regards,

Bong

Suddenly I’m reminded of Drowning Pool

…Let the bodies hit the floor…

…Let the bodies hit the floor…

…Let the bodies hit the floor…

24 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:46:11am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

Prudence can haz a ragegasm.

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FREE EXCLAMATION POINTS WITH EVERY CAPS LOCK!!!!!

25 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:47:54am

re: #24 GeneJockey

FREE EXCLAMATION POINTS WITH EVERY CAPS LOCK!!!!!

ALL CAPS MAKES THE ARGUMENT LOGICALLY VALID

26 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:48:02am

Speaking of Mississippi:

27 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:49:27am

re: #13 EPR-radar

In many parts of the country, there is effectively no difference between the tea party and the GOP.

Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.

28 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:50:23am
29 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:50:51am

re: #26 Lidane

Speaking of Mississippi:

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YOU THINK WE’RE CRAZY?!?!? WE’LL SHOW YOU CRAZY!!!!!

30 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:05am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.

You have my condolences.

31 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:30am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

@mboyle1 Hearing from House members that after Obama’s behavior during fiscal fights, no way they’ll open negotiations on immigration with him.

You think we cut off our nose to spite our face? WELL I’LL CUT OFF MY WHOLE HEAD TO SPITE MY BODY, THAT WILL FUCKING SHOW YOU.

32 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:39am
He didn’t use phrases like “hostage-takers.” But he wasn’t pinning any roses, either. He had the air of someone who’d had too many evenings ruined because he had to drive home a drunk colleague he didn’t even like.

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33 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:51:42am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

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Because recalcitrance worked out so well for them these last few weeks.

34 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:05am
35 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:31am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Did Obama respond “Please proceed.”?

36 klys  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:31am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

You know, there’s so many responses to this.

But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”

37 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:52:41am

re: #27 Shiplord Kirel

Here in west Texas, there is no difference between the John Birch Society and the GOP.

Somehow, I think Texas is no different than the rest of the country in that regard. Maybe they are just more open and honest about it in West Texas.

38 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:53:33am

re: #36 klys

You know, there’s so many responses to this.

But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”

A la Grassley who worked tirelessly to pull the ACA to the Right, then said there was literally nothing that could make him vote for it.

39 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:53:57am

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Hearing from House members that after Obama’s behavior during fiscal fights, no way they’ll open negotiations on immigration with him.

Butthurt level: massive.

40 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:54:22am

re: #9 Eclectic Cyborg

Today the junior Senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders will be speaking in Jackson. Senator Sanders, a self-described, “democratic socialist” will be hosted by the Mississippi Democrat Party. Mississippi Democrats will even have him as the honored guest at a fundraiser this evening.

Senator Sanders has made a successful political career based on demonizing the success of entrepreneurs and small businesses. He believes in high taxes and excessive regulations. These policies put him out of step with the values of the people in this state. Mississippi is succeeding in spite of his and President Obama’s liberal policies.

This is a Senator who praised European style health care as the model for the United States.

This is a Senator who has been endorsed by members of the Communist Party.

This is a Senator who has a 100% lifetime rating from Planned Parenthood.

This is the person who the Democrats have invited to speak on their behalf.

The above statement was NOT in fact written by a Tea Party group, it is an OFFICIAL message put out by the Mississippi Republican Party.

Ain’t my state grand?

That last one is a shocker …

41 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:07am

re: #10 GeneJockey

I’ve tried reasoning with one wingnut on FB. I pointed out that everyone is already in the healthcare market, there is no ‘opt out’, because hospitals can’t refuse to treat since Reagan signed EMTALA. I said I was surprised that a Conservative wanted to allow people to freeload on the system.

No response yet.

Really, we pay for it one way or another. Either in taxes or in increased costs in other areas.

42 b.d.  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:19am

Still waiting for that 1st GOP member of Congress to officially quit the party.

43 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:31am
44 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:44am
45 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:57am

re: #15 GeneJockey

You mean the one where he says nobody is denied care? I’ve actually seen wingnuts use that argument.

Of course, you know The Poors could afford health insurance if they didn’t keep buying cigarettes, booze, tattoos, lottery tickets, and big screen TVs.

OH MY GAWD—if I hear the big screen TV argument ONE MORE TIME!!!!!

46 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:55:59am

re: #42 b.d.

Still waiting for that 1st GOP member of Congress to officially quit the party.

The Tea Party will split from the GOP, not the other way around. I think.

I think it might be Bachmann, actually.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:56:02am

Totally O/T, but for those wondering what to make for supper, may I suggest

Cthulhu Pot Pies

48 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:56:29am

re: #20 Eclectic Cyborg

Well technically we ARE succeeding…

…at being the poorest state in the nation

…at being the fattest state in the nation

…at leading the country in Teen pregnancies

…at cutting off all access to abortion

How is life otherwise in Mississippi?

49 ipsos  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:15am

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I like the one about PUT “GOD” BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY!!11!!.

The quotation marks are more telling than they realize.

50 piratedan  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:25am

re: #36 klys

You know, there’s so many responses to this.

But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”

I think that Obama is done fucking around letting these assholes drive the narrative. You’ve held the country hostage for incredibly petty reasons and now we’re going to engage in a campaign to illustrate to all of America just how fucking out of touch with the country that you are.

Step one - Indicating that the GOP/Tea Party has no ideas what so ever on how to deal with Immigration. Building a fence doesn’t cut it.

Step Two - my guess we’ll see some foreign policy coup where he walks the Iranians to the table as a means to start trying to reduce tensions in the Middle East

Step Three - pull our collective patooties out of Afghanistan.

Step Four - start trying to fix the country again, infrastructure, jobs, education

51 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:57:46am
52 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:58:54am

re: #41 FemNaziBitch

Really, we pay for it one way or another. Either in taxes or in increased costs in other areas.

This is precisely the argument Heritage used, along with the simple fact that if required to insure anyone with no limits, insurance companies would go broke unless they were insuring EVERYONE, because nobody’d buy health insurance till they got sick.

53 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:23am

re: #47 Backwoods_Sleuth

Totally O/T, but for those wondering what to make for supper, may I suggest

Cthulhu Pot Pies

WE NEED a tweet button in every post! Would that be a PITA for Charles to add?

54 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:54am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

That’s entirely backwards. Obama would’ve become a lame duck if he’d caved to GOP demands. Caving would have undermined his entire presidency.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:56am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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I sadly think you are right.

56 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 10:59:57am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

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They are on a mission from G-d. Dying a martyr is their goal.

57 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:00:16am

re: #45 FemNaziBitch

OH MY GAWD—if I hear the big screen TV argument ONE MORE TIME!!!!!

Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//

58 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:11am

re: #52 GeneJockey

This is precisely the argument Heritage used, along with the simple fact that if required to insure anyone with no limits, insurance companies would go broke unless they were insuring EVERYONE, because nobody’d buy health insurance till they got sick.

I’m sorry, I just woke-up. (was on call last night) Anyway, I missed any earlier Heritage argument —were they for or against?

59 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:24am

re: #53 FemNaziBitch

OT you’ll love this

60 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:48am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

I hope no one believes the right wing has learned a lesson from this stupid episode. They’re just going to get even worse.

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Of course they will: The President is still black, the minimum wage has not been repealed, and OSHA and the EPA are still in business.

61 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:01:57am

re: #57 GeneJockey

Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//

I bet they also have new cars (all corvettes!)

62 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:41am

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

How is life otherwise in Mississippi?

Their drive to corner the market on “s” in state names continues apace. Texe has already complained. Alabama seems to be unconcerned.

63 Ace-o-aces  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:45am

re: #4 GeneJockey

“Obamacare victims”?

Poor bastards got health insurance! Oh, the humanity!

When not having health insurance is outlawed, only outlaws won’t have health insurance!

64 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:02:59am

re: #38 GeneJockey

The same Grassley who trolled with the Congressional exchanges bit, got it included in the final version, and then realized that it would screw the employees of Congress because they’d end up taking a pay hit. The solution, of course, was Vitter to support an amendment that overrides the OPM interpretation that allows the subsidy to continue and would have made the pay hit permanent. Go GOP! /

65 b.d.  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:07am

Love the headline of the CNN lead story:

Congress votes to do its job

66 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:12am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Sadly, that’s true. The RW’ers have been humiliated in an unprecedented fashion - by a man they loathe with every fiber of their being, no less - and they will want their revenge.

THAT DAMNED UPPITY ****** MADE US LOOK LIKE FOOLS!!

67 klys  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:28am

re: #43 Charles Johnson

Again, so many possible responses.

But I’d settle with: he took “negotiation” lessons from the House GOP.

68 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:03:34am

re: #59 Vicious Babushka

OT you’ll love this

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Ah yes, the My Mommy Didn’t Let Me Have Cookies Psychosis. I know we aren’t supossed to diagnose over the internet, but … .

69 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:04:25am

re: #57 GeneJockey

Can I interest you in this Teh poorz have air conditioning and refrigerators argument, then?
//

Take those away in The South and a lot of people would start moving back north.

70 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:04:29am

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

I’m sorry, I just woke-up. (was on call last night) Anyway, I missed any earlier Heritage argument —were they for or against?

I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.

Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.

71 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:05:56am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

Lesson? What lesson? They’re going to be right back at it.

McConnell may not have the stomach for another fight, but he’s going to be back at crafting a deal with Reid at the 11th hour in just a few weeks’ time.

Cruz, the TP/GOP, and the House will be back at this once again. They haven’t gotten any of their demands met, and there’s no reason to expect that the conference committee to deal with the debt ceiling/sequester/budget will do any better than any of the previous deals that have fallen through resulting in the mess we have now.

The TP/GOP uses the failures of those prior deals, and the sequester in particular, as a way to get to their ultimate goal of dismantling the government support structure - the safety net. Chopping spending along the way regardless of the consequences.

And then blaming Obama when all that is expected to go wrong does.

72 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:06:46am

re: #70 GeneJockey

I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.

Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.

That’s right. The mandate was originally sold by the right as a “personal responsibility” measure but once Obama included it in ACA, it became like “forcing people to eat veggies” Scalia’s idiotic phrasing not mine.

73 klys  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:07:43am

re: #70 GeneJockey

I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.

Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.

Also it is simple fucking logic, but since it’s Republicans we’re talking about, I’m not surprised this is difficult.

74 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:08:09am

Baba, Speaking of misogyny. Did you see the video I posted yesterday in a thread? “Why are Vaginas Important to You?” I was suprised at how many of the men responded that Vaginas are Power. I thought that was rather telling. Of course, most of the guys were working real hard to come-up with the right answer without laughing. :)


Youtube Video

75 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:08:32am

re: #70 GeneJockey

I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.

Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.

ah! Thanks

76 darthstar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:09:23am
77 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:10:07am

re: #76 darthstar

My first download was “License to Ill”.

78 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:10:55am

re: #74 FemNaziBitch

Baba, Speaking of misogyny. Did you see the video I posted yesterday in a thread? “Why are Vaginas Important to You?” I was suprised at how many of the men responded that Vaginas are Power. I thought that was rather telling. Of course, most of the guys were working real hard to come-up with the right answer without laughing. :)

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Because they’re not just decorative and functional, they’re also recreational!

79 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:11:24am

re: #76 darthstar

Image: 988304_700948309915655_968752457_n.jpg

Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.

80 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:11:58am
81 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:30am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.

AUDIOBOOKS!

82 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:36am

re: #79 HappyWarrior

Heh, all true but I do like being able to carry 30K+ plus songs of music in my pocket.

I suppose it makes me seem incredibly old-fogeyish, but I find it hard to believe there are 30K songs in existence, let alone 30k songs worth listening to.

83 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:12:56am

re: #80 FemNaziBitch

mmmmmmmmm!

I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.

84 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:13:45am

Break The Cycle (.org) educational videos and PSA’s

Just spreading information here.

85 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:14:25am

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.

Strangely enough, I think ballet dancers have cornered the market on foot obliteration.

86 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:14:25am

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

AUDIOBOOKS!

Now on that front, I remain something of a luddite. Though I did get a Kindle Fire with my graduation money two winters ago.

87 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:15:11am

re: #83 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know how women walk on those without obliterating their feet in the process.

Ah yes, shoes, reason #567688 why it’s easier to be a dude.

88 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:17:30am

re: #80 FemNaziBitch

mmmmmmmmm!

I can’t wear shoes like that anymore but Nordstrom has a really great selection of lace-up boots that are stylish AND comfortable.

89 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:19:36am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

Ah yes, shoes, reason #567688 why it’s easier to be a dude.

Reason #1 - No monthly “visitors”

90 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:19:59am

re: #80 FemNaziBitch

mmmmmmmmm!

My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).

91 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:07am

DERP

92 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:21am

I’m really glad the shutdown is over. I’m glad the GOP realized that continuing their attempts to bully the president into giving them everything they wanted would be futile.

93 Single-handed sailor  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:23:55am
94 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:24:16am
95 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:24:26am

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Generally, my hope for THE AMERICAN SOLDIER is that he not die for me.

These people have some weird complexes.

96 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:25:04am

re: #51 Charles Johnson

[ Charles Johnson @Green_Footballs

I hope no one believes the right wing has learned a lesson from this stupid episode. They’re just going to get even worse.
1:56 PM - 17 Oct 2013]

Who knows, they might get their wish to be herded up and placed into that FEMA housing yet!

///

97 Mattand  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:25:49am

re: #92 CriticalDragon1177

I’m really glad the shutdown is over. I’m glad the GOP realized that continuing their attempts to bully the president into giving them everything they wanted would be futile.

Yeah, I hate to throw rusty nails and dead wombats on your parade, but it ain’t over. We’re just going to go through this again in two months.

I am failing to see anything that these loons are saying that translates to “We’re genuinely sorry and realize now what we did was wrong.”

98 Ian G.  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:26:18am

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran?

Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.

99 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:14am
100 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:17am

re: #98 Ian G.

Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran.

Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.

Resistance fighters too but yeah.

101 SpaceJesus  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:27:36am

Business leaders support Boehner, compare Tea Party to Taliban. Take it away freep!

To: MadIsh32

Taliban?

Do you REALLY want someone like me, actually ACTING like a Taliban terrorist?

Keep it up. I have less to lose on a daily basis.

29 posted on Thursday, October 17, 2013 10:39:18 AM by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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freerepublic.com

102 jvic  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:07am

re: #49 ipsos

re: #19 Vicious Babushka

I like the one about PUT “GOD” BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY!!11!!.

The quotation marks are more telling than they realize.

There’s also the one to “strictly follow” the Constitution & Bill of Rights.

They read the Constitution and other founding documents like they read the Bible: cherry-pick bits that fit their preconceptions, ignore the rest.

103 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:33am

re: #100 HappyWarrior

Resistance fighters too but yeah.

Soviets lost more soldiers (not to mention civilians) fighting the Nazis than U.S. on both fronts.

104 Mattand  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:37am

re: #92 CriticalDragon1177

re: #97 Mattand

Case in point: Conservatives Learned The Wrong Lessons From The Shutdown Debacle

Plus, what Charles said.

105 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:28:38am

By the way, anyone surprised by Beck distorting history again?

Copied directly from Ed Brayton’s “Dispatches From The Culture Wars”

Glenn Beck spoke at the Values Voters Summit and, predictably, either displayed his rank ignorance or lied through his teeth. In his usual melodramatic fashion, he brought with him symbols used by the Nazis to mark those who were targeted for concentration camps, implying, of course, that Obama was going to do the same thing to Christians.

He told them that he had with him a purple triangle and he asked if anyone knew who was marked with that symbol. No one did, so he told them:

“Purple — Bible scholar. If you knew anything about the Bible, you were an enemy of the state. Why? Why? Because the truth shall set you free, not work. The truth shall set you free.”

All nonsense. The purple triangle was used not for those who “knew anything about the Bible” but for Jehovah’s Witnesses. Hitler considered them a threat because they refused to salute the flag or pledge allegiance to the state. But guess what? At the very same time, the good Christian folks in the United States were persecuting Jehovah’s Witnesses for the very same thing. In 1940, the Supreme Court upheld a law that forced Jehovah’s Witnesses to salute the flag and recite the pledge of allegiance (thankfully they came to their senses 3 years later and overturned that ruling).

All of this is just Beck pushing his favorite conspiracy theory, that Christians will at any moment be rounded up and thrown into concentration camps. Never mind that they hold nearly all the power in the country.

Youtube Video

106 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:29:36am

re: #70 GeneJockey

I’m referring to the fact that the Individual Mandate was a Heritage Foundation invention. It’s why they called it the ‘Individual Responsibility Mandate’, because otherwise people could freeload on the system, only signing up when they needed it.

Of course, since Obama bought the idea, they have since refudiated it.

I mentioned yesterday, I have an email in at The Heritage Foundation asking about this very thing. Haven’t heard back. Don’t know if I expect too. I imagine they may be a bit busy.

107 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:30:29am

re: #103 Vicious Babushka

Soviets lost more soldiers (not to mention civilians) fighting the Nazis than U.S. on both fronts.

Yep.

108 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:01am

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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Your Mom and Dad? They aren’t a defining force?

109 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:36am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).

Awesome! I bet her long legs look fantastic in heels!

110 simoom  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:48am
111 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:31:59am

re: #91 Vicious Babushka

DERP

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How about all the protestors in the Civil Rights movement who put themselves in harms way, risking life and limb for our freedom?

112 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:33:14am

re: #98 Ian G.

Well, depending on the war, French, British, Polish, and other soldiers besides American ones died for me. Also, I’d prefer it if fewer American soldiers die, so can we stop saber-rattling with Iran?

Also, I never asked Jesus to die for me any more than I asked Richard III to die for me.

IMHO, Jesus died for his own beliefs. He wouldn’t back-down on his freedom to worship has he pleases. THAT IS THE LESSON I LEARNED.

113 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:07am

re: #101 SpaceJesus

Business leaders support Boehner, compare Tea Party to Taliban. Take it away freep!

freerepublic.com

hmmm, which group frequently uses religion in their arguments:

a-Taliban
b-Tea Party
c-Occupy

114 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:17am

re: #112 FemNaziBitch

IMHO, Jesus died for his own beliefs. He wouldn’t back-down on his freedom to worship has he pleases. THAT IS THE LESSON I LEARNED.

Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.

115 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:34:50am

re: #90 Shiplord Kirel

My second daughter wouldn’t wear high heels until about 3 years ago. I think she was self-conscious about her height (6’2”) and didn’t want to exaggerate it. Now, though, her confidence has improved and at times she seems to revel in towering over her associates (and her father).

I worked with a 6’ woman who shunned flats. When I thought about it, the main reason why a tall woman would avoid heels (apart from comfort) would be to avoid intimidating guys. Screw that!

116 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:18am

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.

Yeah—politics as usual.

117 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:20am

SPIKKING TEH FUTBALLL!!!!!11TY!

Obama To GOP: ‘Go Out There And Win An Election’ If You Want To Stop Obamacare

That oughta wind ‘em all up another couple of notches.

118 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:21am

re: #110 simoom

Is McConnell really in a position to keep the notion of a shutdown off the table?

As it was, Cruz was driving the TP in the House to engage in the insanity of demanding ACA repeal or else force a default. He and the TP shut down the government.

McConnell’s not exactly going to stop them from doing it again, and his reticence to court another shutdown will only get the TP/GOP to consider primarying him because he’s not conservative enough - or not insane enough to consider scorched earth tactics that simply haven’t worked before, and wont work going forward.

119 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:35:32am

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.

He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.

Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…

120 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:36:40am

re: #119 Sol Berdinowitz

He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.

Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…

Yeah, G-d made you human, he likes to be entertained.

121 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:27am

re: #101 SpaceJesus

Too funny. One of the first comments in that Freep thread is an accusation that the CoC/moderate republicans are Copperheads.

Light up that IMAX once again, since the Teahadists are the Copperheads here.

122 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:50am

Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.

Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.

Tell me how that is an improvement?

123 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:37:59am

re: #120 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, G-d made you human, he likes to be entertained.

That is the theory as proposed by Kilgore Trout in Now it Can be Told: God got tired of being omniscient and knowing what would happen all the time so he invented humans with free will so he could be surprised for a change.

124 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:24am

Lonegan: Yes, he’s every bit as much of a total dick as you thought.

Lonegan’s Wife Tries To Console Him During Concession Speech, Watch What Happens Next

125 Mattand  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:25am

re: #110 simoom

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Well, maybe I’m wrong. We’ll see.

126 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:38:55am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.

Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.

Tell me how that is an improvement?

Christianity seems to have a larger share of the market. So it wins. :)

127 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:39:04am

re: #122 Vicious Babushka

Judaism teaches that there is a path to salvation for everyone, not only for Jews, and there may or may not be an afterlife, we just don’t know.

Christianity teaches IT’S OUR WAY OR YOU’LL BURN IN HELL FOREVER.

Tell me how that is an improvement?

Because it has Jesus and the Saints and the Rapture and Armageddon. Much more entertaining than a bunch of shepherds and ancient kings.

128 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:12am

re: #114 Vicious Babushka

Jesus died because he pissed off the wrong people.

Yes, and never forget, he was too free and thus a threat to the status quo and the powers that be.

There is a lot of politics in the story of Jesus. People tend to look over that.

129 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:50am

re: #127 Sol Berdinowitz

Because it has jesus and the Saints and the Rapture and Armageddon. Much more entertaining than a bunch of shepherds and ancient kings.

But we have GREAT FOOD!

130 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:40:59am

re: #128 ObserverArt

Yes, and never forget, he was too free and thus a threat to the status quo and the powers that be.

There is a lot of politics in the story of Jesus. People tend to look over that.

And Jesus gave us sound advice on the Minimum Wage, Food Stamps and Deficit Spending…

131 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:41:29am

re: #129 Vicious Babushka

But we have GREAT FOOD!

flat bread, bitter herbs and no bacon? sorry, dudes, you stand no chance in the Midwest…

132 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:00am

re: #131 Sol Berdinowitz

flat bread, bitter herbs and no bacon? sorry, dudes, you stand no chance in the Midwest…

Gefilte fish!

133 SpaceJesus  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:07am

The good guys at Vice signed up an account on a dating site for Ayn Rand fans. Hilarity ensues.

vice.com

134 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:42:37am
We recorded more than 8,000 confirmed attempted child abductions by someone unknown to the child from Feb. 2005 through Jan. 2013. Of those, 32% happened when the child was going to or from school or a school related activity.

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children posted the above on their fb to preface this article:

ALBUQUERQUE - Albuquerque police say a 9-year-old boy thwarted a man’s attempted abduction of the boy’s 8-year-old sister while they were walking to school.

According to police, a man got out of a single-cab pickup truck and tried to grab the girl Wednesday morning. The boy ten started punching the man and threw a rock at the man.

The girl was able to get away, and the children ran to a nearby crossing guard.

The man was described as wearing black pants and shirt and sun glasses .

135 darthstar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:43:38am

re: #110 simoom

Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.

136 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:44:30am

re: #130 Sol Berdinowitz

And Jesus gave us sound advice on the Minimum Wage, Food Stamps and Deficit Spending…

And I never forget a good story can be construed to mean many things!

137 Slap  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:45:53am

Was just thinking about the House stenographer’s rant, and a question occurred:

Do any of those folks expressing “support” for her “speaking truth” realize they are endorsing someone who clearly stated that we were NEVER a “christian nation”?

Just another example of the dissonance…..!

138 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:46:07am

re: #135 darthstar

Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.

The Senators can crow all they want. The key is what Boehner allows (or perhaps more importantly does not allow) to reach the floor of the House for a vote.

139 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:46:46am

re: #135 darthstar

Sounds like another shut-down is inevitable. Backbenchers like McCain and McConnell have no pull in today’s GOP.

I made a comment in the last thread asking will there be any real power in the Republican party after this. The butthurts and the fighting over alignments and who you ignore, etc. is going to be ongoing. They may need Democrats to get anything done.

140 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:47:41am

re: #137 Slap

Was just thinking about the House stenographer’s rant, and a question occurred:

Do any of those folks expressing “support” for her “speaking truth” realize they are endorsing someone who clearly stated that we were NEVER a “christian nation”?

Just another example of the dissonance…..!

It was the BIGGER TRUTH that “you cannot serve two masters” and that we SHOULD be a Christian Nation.

Really, you people are hopeless.

/

141 Weet  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:04am
142 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:45am
143 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:48:58am

re: #124 makeitstop

He was apparently inconsolable last night. He had no reason other than delusion to think he’d win, and it would take such a set of circumstances for it to happen that Rube Goldberg would marvel at the complexity.

But to brush off your wife’s tender touches? Really?

What an ass.

144 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:49:02am

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

145 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:49:29am

re: #124 makeitstop

Wow, what an a$$.

146 brennant  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:50:33am

re: #124 makeitstop

Dickbag.

147 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:50:51am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?

148 brennant  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:51:47am

re: #147 EPR-radar

So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?

I am pretty sure their “science” has a little corn in it.

149 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:51:52am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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“scientifically literate”?


I’m just wondering about that phrase. It has no meaning. They can read science papers? They understand cause and effect?

150 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:01am

re: #119 Sol Berdinowitz

He died for YOUR SINS because God made you SINNER when you were born.

Go reconcile that with a God of love and mercy and tell me what you come up with, I am still stumped…

Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.

151 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:08am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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They probably define knowledge of creationist and climate-change denial talking points as “scientific literacy.”

152 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:26am

re: #147 EPR-radar

So, wingnut science is what they extract from their own asses?

I guess what it means is they are more well-versed in their own bullshit than others are with a wide variety of actual scientific facts, but I did not read that link.

153 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:52:35am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

Saw that earlier.

If you read through some of the materials, there’s a few conclusions that aren’t exactly complementary to the GOP.

For starters, it admits that conservatives are dumber than the average population. TPers are more scientifically literate than conservatives.

By one study. No idea if there’s any validity to this. Peer review or anything along those lines. But that kind of study supports their ongoing refusal to recognize global warming as a threat, that environmental stewardship is in the best interests of everyone, and that reducing environmental impacts is a good thing.

154 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:53:02am

re: #148 brennant

I am pretty sure their “science” has a little corn in it.

Speaking of corn, I guess there is going to be a bumper crop this year (majorly huge, in fact). Watching it work it’s way thru Wall Street and beyond will be interesting.

155 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:56:03am

re: #150 Lidane

Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.

It goes like this.

Only G-d is Perfect
Humans are not G-d
Therefore, Humans are not perfect.

Now, use that phrase to control people and extort money from them. Not perfect becomes bad, perfect becomes good and humans are screwed from birth.

We are so conditioned to add a value system to any word we hear that no one bothers to question those who are trying to control them.

Perfect and Not Perfect have no value in and of themselves. It is only when we change the wording/meaning to SIN that we create majorly fucked-up people.

addendum: Perfect = Complete

156 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:57:19am
157 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:57:53am

re: #143 lawhawk

He was apparently inconsolable last night. He had no reason other than delusion to think he’d win, and it would take such a set of circumstances for it to happen that Rube Goldberg would marvel at the complexity.

But to brush off your wife’s tender touches? Really?

What an ass.

There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.

158 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:58:54am

Because remember: the CEO’s of Aetna and UHC worked hard for their 8-figure salaries and they deserve it more than people with pre-existing conditions need policies!

159 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:59:25am

re: #157 ObserverArt

There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.

hmmm, I’m always outraged when I don’t win the lottery. I mean, I deserve it, I earned it and damn-it! people like me.

160 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 11:59:38am

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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An old advertising axiom. The worst mispellings are always in the headlines.

With the Tea Party, it is on their signs.

161 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:00:34pm

Oh wait “Bruce Majors” didn’t he once troll here?

162 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:01:01pm

re: #161 Vicious Babushka

Oh wait “Bruce Majors” didn’t he once troll here?

Wasn’t he the bionic man?

163 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:01:49pm

re: #162 FemNaziBitch

Wasn’t he the bionic man?

That was Lee Majors IIRC

164 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:02:10pm

NO.

165 erik_t  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:04:42pm

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

The poors should always be kept mindful of the fact that their next meal depends on the generosity of their rich neighbor, so that they will be appropriately meek and servile. Rather like rubbing a training puppy’s nose in the wet spot on the carpet.

If they know that next meal is guaranteed by the government, they start acting up and getting uppity. Look at the poor! He thinks he’s people!

166 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:05:52pm

re: #157 ObserverArt

There will be some lame excuse. Like he thought there was a bug buggin’ him or maybe a crazy demon democrat was attacking from behind.

One thing I learned about Lonegan today that I never knew - he’s legally blind.

Doesn’t make him any less of a dick, but there is that.

167 elizajane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:05:54pm

If you are a frustrated member of the Tea Party and have no imagination of your own, you can now visit this exciting website and generate insults for those you despise:

clotureclub.com

I did like “SLEAZY MUSLIM-LOVING RINO F**KER” but on the whole, even with a special mechanism, their vocabulary seems a bit limited.

168 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:06:08pm

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

NO.

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And becomes unequal. Not everyone get’s fed, clothed and housed. Only those the private charity “serves”. People donate accordingly because they are human.

169 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:07:46pm


$600 million in lost costs due to the #GOPshutdown. That’s money that the GOP took out of the economy because they wanted to fight the President on Obamacare.

They keep talking about Obamacare’s costs. Time to talk about the costs of the GOP’s incessant fight over Obamacare’s very existence before it even took effect.

It’s billions of dollars. In fact, the budget wars have cost the nation $700 billion since 2010, and that’s the equivalent of the annual DoD budget.

Or the cost of TARP or the ARRA of 2009. The GOP torpedoed the economy when it couldn’t get its way. That cost is borne by everyone. And the GOP should be made accountable for it.

170 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:08:01pm

So I’m hearing that the Value Voters laughed when Beck brought up gay concentration camp victims. And just when you thought these people couldn’t be more evil, yes I’ll use the word here evil to describe them.

171 danarchy  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:09:10pm

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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Based on this from a Yale professor. He seems pretty legit, and personally holds pretty negative views of the Tea Party as evidenced by this quote:

Of course, I still subscribe to my various political and moral assessments—all very negative— of what I understand the “Tea Party movement” to stand for. I just no longer assume that the people who happen to hold those values are less likely than people who share my political outlooks to have acquired the sorts of knowledge and dispositions that a decent science comprehension scale measures.

172 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:09:37pm

re: #150 Lidane

Original Sin makes no sense to me at all. The idea that you’re guilty and doomed to hell (or at the very least to purgatory) just because you’ve been born is insane. WTF.

12 years of Catholic school and a whole lot of fishing with a good friend in our younger days where we discussed life and philosophy and caught few fish, I developed my own idea of the concept.

You are born a human animal. That is the included original sin. That means get the fuck over yourself and understand humans can fuck up. So, if you want to be accepted as anything but an animal, realize your limitations as a human but also realize you have been given a brain and reasoning so try not being just an animal and use your brain to rise above it. Then you have been cleared of the sin. You did good.

And I will always believe it is an individual fight. Large groups (churches) will not do it for you. 12 years of Catholic School taught me that too!

(I do appreciate my early schooling. It did make me think.)

173 Lidane  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:10:31pm
174 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:12:01pm

re: #166 makeitstop

One thing I learned about Lonegan today that I never knew - he’s legally blind.

Doesn’t make him any less of a dick, but there is that.

Good that you point that out.

175 DisturbedEma  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:12:06pm

re: #163 Vicious Babushka

Who played Steve Austin…a man barely alive…we can rebuild him…

176 ObserverArt  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:13:58pm

re: #167 elizajane

If you are a frustrated member of the Tea Party and have no imagination of your own, you can now visit this exciting website and generate insults for those you despise:

clotureclub.com

I did like “SLEAZY MUSLIM-LOVING RINO F**KER” but on the whole, even with a special mechanism, their vocabulary seems a bit limited.

Man, I wish I was a hacker. Get into that database that drives it and put in all kinds of terms that would crank out some truly strange insults.

Then call it the Palinator…Your Own Word Salad for the Day!

177 HoosierHoops  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:14:44pm

How do people afford healthcare? My Lord I had my MRI Monday and I had great insurance and it still cost me an extra 1700.00. This is to be blasted by a magnet for 15 minutes. I don’t think most folks can afford such costs.
Anyway.. My MRI on my back was clear..No problems at all.
I swear sometimes I’m like Tony Randall in the Odd couple. I’ve never been able to watch medical shows because I’m sure I have the latest disease of the week. It would be sad if it wasn’t so damn funny.
I’m the cash cow for the medical world…mmm..Tummy hurts a little bit..Better call my doctor..Might be a tumor or something.. :)

178 Slap  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:15:32pm

re: #140 Sol Berdinowitz

I’m HOPING you weren’t including me in the “you people” comment….

179 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:16:25pm

re: #177 HoosierHoops

How do people afford healthcare? My Lord I had my MRI Monday and I had great insurance and it still cost me an extra 1700.00. This is to be blasted by a magnet for 15 minutes. I don’t think most folks can afford such costs.
Anyway.. My MRI on my back was clear..No problems at all.
I swear sometimes I’m like Tony Randall in the Odd couple. I’ve never been able to watch medical shows because I’m sure I have the latest disease of the week. It would be sad if it wasn’t so damn funny.
I’m the cash cow for the medical world…mmm..Tummy hurts a little bit..Better call my doctor..Might be a tumor or something.. :)

Glad all is fine. You are cleared to go to physical terrorism to learn those those core exercises!

180 gwangung  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:17:57pm

re: #164 Vicious Babushka

NO.

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GIving has been a consistent 2-2.3% of GDP no matter what the tax rate. (And that hasn’t changed since 1971). You get more mega gifts during time of income inequality.

181 missliberties  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:36:17pm

re: #31 erik_t

What Obama is really doing is backing them into more corners, showing the folks who and what they really are, so that in 2014 Dems take back the House AND don’t lose the Senate.

182 CuriousLurker  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 12:45:06pm

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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As usual, the author of the article the tweet links to has cherry-picked items from the original one at the Yale Law School Cultural Cognition Project and read the original. Emphasis added is mine:

[…] Of course, I still subscribe to my various political and moral assessments—all very negative— of what I understand the “Tea Party movement” to stand for. I just no longer assume that the people who happen to hold those values are less likely than people who share my political outlooks to have acquired the sorts of knowledge and dispositions that a decent science comprehension scale measures.

I’ll now be much less surprised, too, if it turns out that someone I meet at, say, the Museum of Science in Boston, or the Chabot Space and Science Museum in Oakland, or the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago is part of the 20% (geez— I must know some of them) who would answer “yes” when asked if he or she identifies with the Tea Party. If the person is there, then it will almost certainly be the case that that he or she & I will agree on how cool the stuff is at the museum, even if we don’t agree about many other matters of consequence.

Next time I collect data, too, I won’t be surprised at all if the correlations between science comprehension and political ideology or identification with the Tea Party movement disappear or flip their signs. These effects are trivially small, & if I sample 2000+ people it’s pretty likely any discrepancy I see will be “statistically significant”—which has precious little to do with “practically significant.”

culturalcognition.net

I’m not very good with reading science-y stuff, especially when it involves lots of tables of statics or gets really geeky (like many white papers). Taht said, for those of you who are good with it, there are plenty of other interesting looking articles & papers available by Kahan, for example:

The polarizing impact of science literacy and numeracy on perceived climate change risks

What does “disbelief” in evolution *mean*? What does “belief” in it *measure*? Evolution & science literacy part 1

How religiosity and science literacy interact: Evolution & science literacy part 2

There are lots of other authors’ work too.

Can’t stay, have work to do. BBL

183 Ming  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 2:05:42pm

re: #36 klys

You know, there’s so many responses to this.

But probably the main one I have is: it’s delusional to think that they were seriously going to open negotiations before this, because it seems that to the House GOP since 2008, negotiations is code for “pretend to work on a deal and then refuse to vote for anything that isn’t exactly what we want.”

My biggest concern is that President Obama’s nominees, especially for federal judges, will continue to be stalled in Congress for years.

184 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 17, 2013 2:18:36pm

re: #144 Vicious Babushka

I’m seeing this new wingnut meme WTFITS

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They’re grabbing at straws.

185 Rixar13  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 4:29:45pm

Ted Cruz and Republicans owe us 24 Billion Dollars…


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