Ted Cruz Won’t Rule Out Another Government Shutdown

He’s the gift that keeps on giving!
KiTA
Wingnuts • Views: 17,483

H/T Talking Points Memo

“I would do anything, and I will continue to do anything I can, to stop the train wreck that is Obamacare,” Cruz told ABC News when asked if he would block government funding in order to take down the Affordable Care Act.

“What I intend to do is continue to stand with the American people working to stop Obamacare,” Cruz said. “Washington focuses on the politics all day long. That’s what this town does, but what we saw in the deal last night, is that the U.S. Senate is not concerned about all the people out of a job, all the people in part-time work, all the people whose health insurance premiums are skyrocketing, all the people who are losing their health insurance, and that’s happening because of Obamacare.”

The best part? At the very bottom of the article, it’s mentioned that McTurtle and Grandpa McCain both are adamant this won’t happen again.

Pity 144 Teahadists didn’t get the memo, eh?

Welp GOP, you created this cancer that’s eating at America, and now you’re going to be it’s first major victim. Deal with it!

Jump to bottom

126 comments
1 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 7:41:39am

If he’s going to be like this, I wouldn’t mind the Senate expelling his ass but then he’d become a martyr.

2 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:55:25am

Just signed on. Last comment 2 hrs ago?

3 erik_t  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:55:48am
“I would do anything, and I will continue to do anything I can, to stop the train wreck that is Obamacare,”

…except actually attempt a real filibuster when it actually allegedly matters.

All bark, no bite, etc. Conniving coward.

4 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:56:59am

re: #2 Stanley Sea

Just signed on. Last comment 2 hrs ago?

Well it was just promoted to the main page.

5 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:57:35am

And he is the front runner for the 2016 GOP nomination?

Please proceed.

6 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:57:42am

re: #3 erik_t

…except actually attempt a real filibuster when it actually allegedly matters.

All bark, no bite, etc. Conniving coward.

Yep at least Strom Thurmond did a real one. Cruz’s was political theater for the easily manipulated.

7 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:58:14am

Going to teapeat this whole stupid fiasco all over again in January.

Only when these assholes lose their jobs, will the country get back on track.

8 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 9:59:15am

Meanwhile Tea Party is all about purging the impure. Please proceed, dumbasses.

9 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:00:04am

If anyone thought for a moment that the GOP would come around and realize that they’re not going to get the President to repeal Obamacare, this should be your wakeup call.

It’s one thing to negotiate over aspects of the program that do need to be fixed, but the GOP isn’t interested in fixed. They want it gone.

Cruz is pandering to those who think that this must happen. He, and the rest of the anti-ACA crowd don’t care that the facts, logic, and reasoning would indicate he’s got no chance.

That the President and Democrats stood up to Cruz and the rest of the TP extortionists this time - and had been saying this all along hasn’t sunk in. And that destroying Obamacare isnt’ something that suddenly came up in July either.

Romney ran on that in 2012. He lost, and the GOP didn’t give up on that plank to their platform.

Cruz isn’t going to give it up either. Neither are the rest of the defund/delay/destroy ACA crowd.

And Cruz will capitalize on the House GOP making a mess of things to fill the coffers of his own campaign warchest for a potential run in 2016, which is his ultimate goal.

Watch for everyone to pull out all the stops to continue what they’ve been doing until now - Democrats trying to keep government from being shut down once again, and the GOP threatening to shut down and a default if they don’t get what they want.

The Speaker and McConnell may not personally want another shutdown or a default crisis, but unless they pull their party in line or treat their TP extortionists with the care they deserve - namely treating them to the harsh reality of politics, they’re in it with their extortionist brethren.

The TP already claims that they’ve got primary challengers to the members who aren’t toeing their line. That works both ways. The GOP leadership and Democrats should be saying in no uncertain terms that the TP will be treated in the same fashion. Extortionists have no business in government. That’s what the TP/GOP have become, and if they don’t clean their own house, we’ll have to do it for them.

10 b.d.  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:00:06am

re: #3 erik_t

…except actually attempt a real filibuster when it actually allegedly matters.

All bark, no bite, etc. Conniving coward.

or object to unanimous consent.

[flapping arms, going brawk, brawk] Cruz is a chicken [/flapping arms, going brawk, brawk]

11 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:01:46am

re: #7 GlutenFreeJesus

Going to teapeat this whole stupid fiasco all over again in January.

Only when these assholes lose their jobs, will the country get back on track.

We’ll see. I think for the first time there’s real pushback on the Teabaggers from within the party. They now know that the Tea Party are not just ‘Useful Idiots’, but actually dangerously ignorant and unteachable.

12 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:02:04am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

Meanwhile Tea Party is all about purging the impure. Please proceed, dumbasses.

[Embedded content]

If you think Mitch McConnell is a RINO and too left, you just may be an out of touch right wing lunatic.

13 erik_t  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:03:25am

re: #10 b.d.

or object to unanimous consent.

[flapping arms, going brawk, brawk] Cruz is a chicken [/flapping arms, going brawk, brawk]

Has anyone in this Congress even seen a chicken?

14 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:03:31am
15 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:05:04am
16 AntonSirius  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:06:48am

re: #11 GeneJockey

We’ll see. I think for the first time there’s real pushback on the Teabaggers from within the party. They now know that the Tea Party are not just ‘Useful Idiots’, but actually dangerously ignorant and unteachable.

17 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:07:42am

There are two ways we get another circus.

1) Boehner decides again to only bring bills to the House floor that have 217+ GOP votes in favor (teabagger Hastert rule).

2) The Senate starts filibustering anything useful.

Crus has probably ticked off enough GOP Senators that such a filibuster will not happen. If so, Boehner is the one and only person in DC who gets to decide if another shutdown circus happens.

18 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:07:52am

re: #5 Vicious Babushka

And he is the front runner for the 2016 GOP nomination?

Please proceed.

He should not be considered the frontrunner. He’s ticked off too many party elites and campaign donors to do well in the ‘invisible primary’.

19 Stanley Sea  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:08:25am

re: #4 HappyWarrior

Well it was just promoted to the main page.

I’m visiting my mom in Florida. Everything is discombobulated!

20 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:08:26am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

He should not be considered the frontrunner. He’s ticked off too many party elites and campaign donors to do well in the ‘invisible primary’.

So who is the front runner? Rand Paul?

21 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:09:49am

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

He should not be considered the frontrunner. He’s ticked off too many party elites and campaign donors to do well in the ‘invisible primary’.

Frontrunner in the sense that he’s leading in the polls. It really means nothing. I mean once upon a time the pro-choice/pro gun control/pro gay rights Rudy Giuliani was once the GOP front runner. Oh those days where I could only buy cigarettes and not buy alcohol.

22 miclaine  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:10:07am

O/T - just signed up for aca under goofy user id to see how “F’d” up it is. It took all of five minutes and was simple. Simple! I think it is possible that even TP’ers can figure it out!

23 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:10:19am

all the people whose health insurance premiums are skyrocketing, all the people who are losing their health insurance, and that’s happening because of Obamacare.”

I guess it’s too much to ask for this guy to provide some data and information on this claim, not to mention those currently uninsured who are becoming insured through the exchanges.

24 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:10:28am

re: #20 Vicious Babushka

So who is the front runner? Rand Paul?

No one is the frontrunner yet. Heck, VB, we’re still more than three years away from than election day! There won’t be a clear frontrunner till after the midterms.

25 Mattand  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:12:17am

re: #20 Vicious Babushka

So who is the front runner? Rand Paul?

Probably Christie. He’s been championing himself bipartisan in all of his campaign ads, and I’ve dealt with enough people online who think he’s the next coming of Reach Across the Aisle.

He’s got some sizable Democratic support this time around. Part of it’s for his hard work on Hurricane Sandy. I imagine part of it is Democratic politicians sucking up to him because their constituents love him.

26 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:12:26am

re: #8 Vicious Babushka

Troubled hearts facing enemies, traitors, and persecution all around. /

27 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:13:00am

re: #23 Bulworth

all the people whose health insurance premiums are skyrocketing, all the people who are losing their health insurance, and that’s happening because of Obamacare.”

I guess it’s too much to ask for this guy to provide some data and information on this claim, not to mention those currently uninsured who are becoming insured through the exchanges.

He doesn’t need sources. He knows The Truth!!!
//

28 Vicious Babushka  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:13:32am

DUMBASS, a lot of them, like Park Rangers, WERE WORKING.
Jeez these people are freaking stupid.

29 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:14:57am

re: #23 Bulworth

Note that the subtle change in criticism about Obamacare isn’t the costs, but that the site is so screwed up that people aren’t able to get their insurance policies and information accepted.

It’s a pivot point, but an important one. The GOP, at least some of the ones grounded in rational politics, realize that Obamacare has significant flaws, but they aren’t going to repeal it. Fixing the problems makes more sense.

But what’s funny is that the TP/GOP see any attempt to fix inherently evil since it makes the ACA permanent, when their sole motivation is eliminating it altogether. So, they’ll attack those who want to fix key issues just as surely as anyone who wants to preserve it or delay implementation.

30 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:15:05am

re: #25 Mattand

Probably Christie. He’s been championing himself bipartisan in all of his campaign ads, and I’ve dealt with enough people online who think he’s the next coming of Reach Across the Aisle.

He’s got some sizable Democratic support this time around. Part of it’s for his hard work on Hurricane Sandy. I imagine part of it is Democratic politicians sucking up to him because their constituents love him.

I think the nominee will be someone in between Christie and Cruz. Not sure. Perhaps some red state governor who does the I’m an outside schitcik that works well.

31 erik_t  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:16:17am

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

@VistaJake
OK maybe someone can clarify why we gave 800,000 Govt Employees back pay when they did not work?

They’re called contracts. Fucking look into them.

32 b.d.  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:18:02am
Pierre Omidyar commits $250m to new media venture with Glenn Greenwald

theguardian.com

I don’t yet know how or when it will be rolled out, or what it will look like.

Looks like someone bailed on their Guardian gig a little soon.

33 kerFuFFler  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:19:24am

OT but I haven’t finished learning how to create a page yet but I did want to point out this story at Salon on Hannity lying about Obamacare being awful for so many people. Someone fact checked the Obamacare “victims” that Hannity was quoting and found out that none of them knew what they were talking about as they had refused to go to the website and even see what policies were available to them.

One doofus who only has 4 employees was complaining that he had to turn many jobs into part-time positions because of the punishing burden of Obamacare. Turns out the only requirement for such a small outfit was that he make his employees aware of the existence of the website.

These people just love to snivel and make themselves out to be the victim no matter what.

34 uncah91  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:20:02am

re: #31 erik_t

They’re called contracts. Fucking look into them.

Actually, I think this was not automatic. The House and Senate both overwhelming passed a bill a little into the shutdown that guaranteed back pay for this particular shutdown.

35 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:20:31am

re: #28 Vicious Babushka

OK maybe someone can clarify why we gave 800,000 Govt Employees back pay when they did not work?

(1)To piss you off; (2) to ensure that innocent bystanders aren’t hurt by terrorist activities, like your budget-debt ceiling hostage-taking; and (3) because you’re stupid.

Note: This information has been provided free of charge.

36 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:21:32am

re: #34 uncah91

Actually, I think this was not automatic. The House and Senate both overwhelming passed a bill a little into the shutdown that guaranteed back pay for this particular shutdown.

Yep, that was something even the nutters in the House had no problem with. Honestly, why shouldn’t they get back pay? They didn’t cause the shutdown.

37 klys  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:22:02am

re: #29 lawhawk

And so we have a Republican party where half wants it gone, half wants to at least acknowledge political reality and try to fix it, and …nothing gets done because the half that wants to acknowledge reality is still terrified of being primaried by the half that wants it gone.

All they’ve used the problems as an excuse for so far is a delay. That’s not really a desire to fix it. I think the American public has been quite willing to listen to alternatives for years and the GOP has not produced a single peep other than “go back to the status quo” which most people grounded in reality accept as a bad idea.

I saw your comments earlier about Monmouth County, btw. Isn’t it just a lovely place?

38 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:22:28am

re: #33 kerFuFFler

OT but I haven’t finished learning how to create a page yet but I did want to point out this story at Salon on Hannity lying about Obamacare being awful for so many people. Someone fact checked the Obamacare “victims” that Hannity was quoting and found out that none of them knew what they were talking about as they had refused to go to the website and even see what policies were available to them.

One doofus who only has 4 employees was complaining that he had to turn many jobs into part-time positions because of the punishing burden of Obamacare. Turns out the only requirement for such a small outfit was that he make his employees aware of the existence of the website.

These people just love to snivel and make themselves out to be the victim no matter what.

Government tyranny. I have to let four people know about a website. Hannity will run any anti-Obama thing he can because he’s in business for only one reason, to spread anti-Obama paranoia.

39 Bulworth  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:22:55am

re: #33 kerFuFFler

Turns out the only requirement for such a small outfit was that he make his employees aware of the existence of the website.

Just another example of how True Patriot Conservatives are persecuted in this country. /

40 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:24:32am

re: #33 kerFuFFler

Obamacare doesn’t affect businesses with under 50 employees. Only those businesses with 50+ employees are required to provide insurance or via the exchanges.

So if you see someone claiming that they’ve got 5 or 10 employees but had to turn them into part timers because of Obamacare, call BS. Because it is.

These are either lying bastards who are simply making it up, or are using Obamacare as an excuse for their own bad business decisions to screw their employees and want to take advantage of an information gap.

41 klys  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:25:11am

I had a dream nightmare last night where for some reason I ended up seeing Hannity talking at what my brain insisted was the VVS.

At the point where he said “Let not your heart be troubled” I turned and rolled my eyes at people and went back to the more interesting parts of the dream.

42 uncah91  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:25:20am

re: #36 HappyWarrior

Yep, that was something even the nutters in the House had no problem with. Honestly, why shouldn’t they get back pay? They didn’t cause the shutdown.

I need to look at the number of votes, but it just goes to the complete fact immunity the right wing has developed.

“Why did they get back pay? “

“Because your reps voted for it overwhelmingly.”

“That’s unconstitutional!”

43 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:25:58am

re: #33 kerFuFFler

One doofus who only has 4 employees was complaining that he had to turn many jobs into part-time positions because of the punishing burden of Obamacare. Turns out the only requirement for such a small outfit was that he make his employees aware of the existence of the website.

Internal emails are teh hard.

44 Lidane  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:26:39am

re: #1 HappyWarrior

If he’s going to be like this, I wouldn’t mind the Senate expelling his ass but then he’d become a martyr.

Don’t expel him. Just strip him of his spots on the Judiciary and Armed Services committees and bump him to the least important committees in the Senate. Table any legislation he writes. Give him the shutdown he deserves, not the one he wants.

45 erik_t  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:28:20am

re: #34 uncah91

Actually, I think this was not automatic. The House and Senate both overwhelming passed a bill a little into the shutdown that guaranteed back pay for this particular shutdown.

No, it wasn’t automatic (although I think it should be).

There’s still a moral obligation to pay salaried employees.

46 uncah91  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:28:23am

re: #42 uncah91

“The Federal Employee Retroactive Pay Fairness Act sailed through the lower chamber by a vote of 407-0 Saturday morning.”

huffingtonpost.com

47 uncah91  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:29:47am

re: #45 erik_t

Well sure their is a moral obligation, but there wasn’t a contractual obligation. Might as well get the facts right.

48 HappyWarrior  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:30:32am

rawstory.com
Aren’t these the people who whine about frivlous lawsuits? Oh and more of the Tea Party focus on fiscal issues. Really a class action lawsuit against homosexuality? Well your honor, I will be suing alcoholism. Not alcohol companies your honor but alcoholism and I expect him to be subpoenaed immediately.

49 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:30:44am

re: #40 lawhawk

Obamacare doesn’t affect businesses with under 50 employees. Only those businesses with 50+ employees are required to provide insurance or via the exchanges.

So if you see someone claiming that they’ve got 5 or 10 employees but had to turn them into part timers because of Obamacare, call BS. Because it is.

These are either lying bastards who are simply making it up, or are using Obamacare as an excuse for their own bad business decisions to screw their employees and want to take advantage of an information gap.

The key thing I noted in one flow chart that explained what the criteria were for the employer mandate was that one important one was having employees who qualified for subsidies to buy insurance. To me, that makes a lot of sense, since these employers are essentially using the rest of us to cover for their underpaying their employees.

Of course, that won’t fly with the ‘Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?’ ‘Welfare pays more than minimum wage, so let’s cut welfare’ folks.

50 darthstar  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:31:56am
51 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:32:22am

BBL

52 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:32:30am

re: #31 erik_t

They’re called contracts. Fucking look into them.

And again (contract or not) we see where those employees enjoy a rather unique benefit the rest of us can just go suck an egg for.

If a government agency wrongly or negligently shuts down my employer or his factory who has the “moral obligation” to pay us? The employer who already took a big hit or the agency that did the deed? I would have no luck at all trying to get that money form perhaps the city or state right?

53 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:32:58am

re: #49 GeneJockey

these employers are essentially using the rest of us to cover for their underpaying their employees

I think beneath everything, this is what the fight is about.

54 Mr.Boots  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:33:25am

“… stop the train wreck that is Obamacare … ” The TeaCons exist in such a intellectually shallow bubble that they think constantly repeating bumper-sticker slogans is a real action plan. Yeah, I know that Cruz is allegedly brilliant, but I’ve known and worked book-smart brilliant people who were so out of touch with the “real world” that they were unable to effectively relate to anybody but those within the bubble.

55 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:34:09am

When you learn about Lewiston, you will be a little fascinated.

56 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:36:36am

re: #52 Political Atheist

And again (contract or not) we see where those employees enjoy a rather unique benefit the rest of us can just go suck an egg for.

If a government agency wrongly or negligently shuts down my employer or his factory who has the “moral obligation” to pay us? The employer who already took a big hit or the agency that did the deed? I would have no luck at all trying to get that money form perhaps the city or state right?

Is your employer going to lay you off once a quarter to prove anvils can’t fly?

57 klys  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:36:53am

I am watching lecture while waiting for the plumbers to show.

How goes your mornings (or afternoons, for the East Coast Lizards)?

58 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:37:11am

re: #53 jaunte

I think beneath everything, this is what the fight is about.

It goes back to what I said on the last thread about seeing business owners as the only people who count. Employees and customers are just sheep to be fleeced and/or slaughtered, and investors are the real innovators, not people who invent stuff, or make the inventions work, or build the products from those inventions, or sell those products, or service those products.

Only the people who bet some money on it deserve rewards. Everyone else is a parasite.

59 kerFuFFler  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:39:45am

re: #55 ProTARDISLiberal

When you learn about Lewiston, you will be a little fascinated.

What about Lewiston? Do you have a link to something interesting?

60 makeitstop  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:40:10am

re: #54 Mr.Boots

“… stop the train wreck that is Obamacare … ” The TeaCons exist in such a intellectually shallow bubble that they think constantly repeating bumper-sticker slogans is a real action plan. Yeah, I know that Cruz is allegedly brilliant, but I’ve known and worked book-smart brilliant people who were so out of touch with the “real world” that they were unable to effectively relate to anybody but those within the bubble.

Not to mention - how do you ‘stop’ a train wreck?

If the train is wrecked, it’s probably already stopped, right?

61 ProTARDISLiberal  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:40:16am

re: #59 kerFuFFler

Making a page on it. Strangest little city in the US.

62 missliberties  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:40:20am

Truth be told, it sickens me to the core how much these right wing tea party folks hate America. I knew they did, but I didn’t realize the rabid power and force of their sheer hatred of our government.

If the GOP gets snake bit by these haters, oh well. They should of thought of that before they danced with the devil.

63 Good Morning  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:41:12am

With the wars over expect frequent budget battles of the despoils.

64 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:42:20am

re: #35 Bulworth

OK maybe someone can clarify why we gave 800,000 Govt Employees back pay when they did not work?

(1)To piss you off; (2) to ensure that innocent bystanders aren’t hurt by terrorist activities, like your budget-debt ceiling hostage-taking; and (3) because you’re stupid.

Note: This information has been provided free of charge.

And the folk who were hurt in terms of salary by the shut-down were the contractors. Who are there partially due to shrinking government and outsourcing efforts primarily driven by the GOP. I wonder if *their* actual employers are providing them back wages for this GOP stunt?

65 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:43:10am

re: #58 GeneJockey

It goes back to what I said on the last thread about seeing business owners as the only people who count. Employees and customers are just sheep to be fleeced and/or slaughtered, and investors are the real innovators, not people who invent stuff, or make the inventions work, or build the products from those inventions, or sell those products, or service those products.

Only the people who bet some money on it deserve rewards. Everyone else is a parasite.

Aristocracy of wealth is probably the best short description of US RWNJ utopia. The funny thing is that many of the Teahadis would reject this proposition if it were plainly put to them.

The right wing noise machine exists mainly to distract the rubes so that they don’t notice what they are supporting when they are allowed to act on their artificially stoked resentments.

66 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:43:22am

re: #63 Good Morning

With the wars over expect frequent budget battles of the despoils.

The ‘fighting’ part of the wars is about over. The ‘paying for’ part will continue for the best part of a generation. We have trashed a lot of expensive shit and disabled a lot of expensive veterans.

67 kerFuFFler  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:43:31am

re: #27 GeneJockey

He doesn’t need sources. He knows The Truth!!!
//

He’s been listening to Hannity….

68 missliberties  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:43:52am

re: #54 Mr.Boots

“… stop the train wreck that is Obamacare … ” The TeaCons exist in such a intellectually shallow bubble that they think constantly repeating bumper-sticker slogans is a real action plan. Yeah, I know that Cruz is allegedly brilliant, but I’ve known and worked book-smart brilliant people who were so out of touch with the “real world” that they were unable to effectively relate to anybody but those within the bubble.

Yeah. It’s called a cult. Defined as • a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister: ie a network of government hating cultists.

69 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:44:11am

re: #62 missliberties

Truth be told, it sickens me to the core how much these right wing tea party folks hate America. I knew they did, but I didn’t realize the rabid power and force of their sheer hatred of our government.

Donot forget the central image of the Tea Party: armed uprising against a tyrannical government. No point in reminding these folks that our government was freely and fairly elected, they need a tyrant and usurper or their whole mental construct falls apart.

Go win back the Senate and the Presidency and you can repeal ACA. Until then, you are expected to abide by the law of the land.

70 sunnygal  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:44:45am

My three words for Cruz:

Please proceed, Senator

71 makeitstop  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:46:17am

Assholes in Utah topple 170 million year old rock formation, and post it to YouTube

Three adult Boy Scout leaders may face charges for toppling an approximately 170-million-year-old rock formation in Utah’s Goblin Valley State Park, the Salt Lake Tribune reported Thursday.

[…]

Glenn Taylor, who toppled the formation, told FOX 13 News he regrets his actions.

“I wish we would have been smart enough to go get a ranger cause it was wrong of us to be vigilantes, and I’m sorry I did that,” he said. The matter will go before the Boy Scouts, according to FOX 13. “If you’re a felon, you can’t be a scouter and that would break my heart, but I did the crime,” Taylor said.

‘I wish we would have been smart enough.’ You could have stopped right there, asshole.

72 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:49:16am

re: #71 makeitstop

Assholes in Utah topple 170 million year old rock formation, and post it to YouTube

‘I wish we would have been smart enough.’ You could have stopped right there, asshole.

Those rock formations are only 6,000 years old, tops.

73 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:50:18am

do you remember the story where the other republican senators confronted cruz in the cloakroom and demanded to know if he and his koch-ass buddies we’re gonna stop launching primary campaigns against other sitting republican senators? and how he said “absolutely not”?

i’m beginning to regard ted cruz as the promised savior who has come to help the tea party fulfill its historical mission of fatally splitting the republican party

and he’s working at it so diligently!

soon i will be taking credit for creating him myself in a secret laboratory in transylvania

74 Ian G.  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:51:06am

‘afternoon, Lizards.

So I’ve been thinking, the way that sane conservatives (yes, they exist, just as dissidents now: Andrew Sullivan, Bruce Bartlett, Daniel Larison, etc.) viewed Cruz’s idiocy and that tea party rally that he an Caribou Barbie addressed must be the way I viewed the idiocy of International ANSWER during the anti-war rallies of 2002 and 2003. I was against the Iraq War, because I feared that all the things that did come true would come true: Iraq would descend into bloody fratricide a la Yugoslavia, the Bush administration was arrogant and incompetent, we’d lose focus in the real fight against al Qaeda, etc. But there weren’t enough facepalms for all the stupidity I saw at anti-war rallies, and their striking similarity to tea party rallies: Soviet flags instead of Confederate ones, Hitler mustaches on Bush instead of Obama, a whole range of disparate, incoherent demands that didn’t reflect coherent thought so much as primal rage, a rag-tag bunch of nuts claiming to speak for the whole country.

Congrats, tea party: you are the right’s answer to International ANSWER. And your natural allies are the ones most horrified by the stupidity.

75 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:52:33am

re: #71 makeitstop

Assholes in Utah topple 170 million year old rock formation, and post it to YouTube

great days in the history of idiocracy

76 Higgs Boson's Mate  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:54:52am

George Armstrong Cruz.

77 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:54:57am

re: #71 makeitstop

Assholes in Utah topple 170 million year old rock formation, and post it to YouTube

‘I wish we would have been smart enough.’ You could have stopped right there, asshole.

When I visited Las Vegas this past spring, I spent a day out in the Valley of Fire and while there got a chance to see some VERY old Petroglyphs. Most of the glyphs are on a rock that you have to climb up to and there’s a large plastic shield meant to protect them from vandalism, along with numerous signs pleading with folks to treat the glyphs with respect.

It will probably come as no surprise to you that people have ignored this and etched all kinds of junk alongside these ancient treasures.

Here’s a photo I took clearly showing both the glyphs and defacing graffiti

78 KiTA  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:58:13am

Holy cow, I made the front page. Thanks! :D

My coworker that reintroduced me to LGF (after the purge) is gonna love this. :D

Edit: I just wish I had been a bit more snarky in my post. :(

79 Lidane  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:58:39am
80 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:59:03am

re: #73 dog philosopher

i’m beginning to regard ted cruz as the promised savior who has come to help the tea party fulfill its historical mission of fatally splitting the republican party

Rafael Cruz:
Ted Cruz “Anointed” to bring the spoils of war to the priests

81 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:59:16am

MS Tea Party targets GOP Congressman…for not stopping Obamacare

Note: This story appeared on the FRONT PAGE of our major daily paper

“We really feel like our congressional delegation betrayed us,” Nicholson said. “We are feeling tremendous disappointment. Republicans have said Obamacare is one of the worst bills, the worst programs ever and that they were dedicated to stopping it and repealing it. (They) totally caved in without a fight and we’re just very, very disappointed.”

Nicholson said Hattiesburg TEA Party leader Ron Vincent will make another run at Palazzo in 2014’s Republican primary. Palazzo beat him 60,722 to 15,378 in 2012.

“(Vincent) has my personal full support,” Nicholson said. “A TEA Party endorsement takes a unanimous vote by all the chapters and we haven’t taken a vote.”

‘Missed opportunity’

Palazzo didn’t return phone calls or respond to email requests for an interview.

In a press release after Wednesday’s vote, he said: “I am disappointed that we missed what may have been our last real opportunity to defund or delay Obamacare before its full implementation. I stood with the people of Mississippi and voted against the so-called Senate deal because it does nothing to fix Obamacare, does nothing to reduce spending, and does nothing to get our country back on the right fiscal track. The Senate deal only punts the tough decisions yet again, something I find unacceptable for the future of our nation. My colleagues and I will continue to fight to ensure a better country for our children and grandchildren.”

Nicholson said the party also was disappointed in Republican Sens. Thad Cochran and Roger Wicker for not sticking with Republicans who tried to keep a continuing resolution that would have funded the government but defunded the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, from coming to a vote. The majority Democrats voted to strip the Obamacare-defunding language out, then passed the resolution.

Nicholson said the TEA Party was renaming Obamacare to Cochran-Wicker Care.

“They funded it, they own it,” he said. Both also voted for the bill to end the government shutdown.

‘We must talk seriously’

Cochran, in a press release Wednesday, said: “In getting past our current fiscal stalemates, I hope that we can next achieve a long-term agreement that we will reduce our debt through structural changes to government spending.

“As a part of that process, we must talk seriously about the President’s health care law; its serious flaws and its impact on families and businesses.”

Wicker couldn’t be reached for comment, either.

Cochran will have a TEA Party opponent if he chooses to run for re-election next year.

State Sen. Chris McDaniel of Ellisville announced he will be a candidate. Cochran has yet to commit to running for re-election.

A contentious primary fight would normally be good news for Democrats, but the leader of the state Democratic Party said the TEA Party is bad news for everyone.

McDaniel will be at the meeting of the South Mississippi TEA Party at 6:30 p.m. Monday in the St. Martin Community Center.

“Chris McDaniel’s politics are dangerous for this country and dangerous for Mississippi,” said Rickey Cole, Democratic Party chairman. “That TEA Party radicalism is certainly nothing we need representing our state in Washington D.C.

“The traditional establishment Republicans in Mississippi are now not much more than a minor third party. The two political parties in Mississippi now are the Democratic Party and the TEA Party.”

Gotta love Southern politics.

82 makeitstop  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 10:59:50am

re: #75 dog philosopher

great days in the history of idiocracy

If you go to the link in the TPM story, you’ll find that tese morons are actually sticking to their story that the rock was ‘dangerous’ and could have hurt someone because it was loose.

I guess that’s why that no-neck dude had to push with all his might to topple the rock - because it was so loose.
///

I hope they get hit with the felony charge, I really do.

83 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:01:25am

OT: My forgetfulness has apparently cost me my cell phone. I had set it down on the hood of my car and apparently forgot to pick it up again prior to driving up. I have retraced my entire route and come up empty.

Sadly, I didn’t put a locator app on it before it went missing.

84 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:02:01am

re: #82 makeitstop

If you go to the link in the TPM story, you’ll find that tese morons are actually sticking to their story that the rock was ‘dangerous’ and could have hurt someone because it was loose.

I guess that’s why that no-neck dude had to push with all his might to topple the rock - because it was so loose.
///

I hope they get hit with the felony charge, I really do.

And, of course, if they had screwed up and dropped said rock onto themselves they’d be suing the park. After getting rescued by emergency services.

85 KiTA  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:03:28am
86 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:04:43am

re: #79 Lidane


Fact is that Heritage came up with the individual mandate idea. It’s theirs. RomneyCare is based on the individual mandate, and ObamaCare is based on RomneyCare and the individual mandate - the idea that getting people to buy into the insurance or face penalties if they don’t - out of personal responsibility.

87 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:05:34am

re: #85 KiTA

It is immoral to pay people for not working, just as it is immoral for people who do not work to be allowed to eat. that is what supply side jesus tells us…

88 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:06:31am

Anyone who hasn’t seen that video of Rafael Cruz should watch the whole thing. It will give you an insight as to just how crazy strange the Cruz household was that created our current dominionist senator:
Youtube Video

89 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:07:23am

re: #78 KiTA

Holy cow, I made the front page.

My coworker that reintroduced me to LGF (after the purge) is gonna love this. :D

“Respice post te, hominem memento te.”

90 Political Atheist  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:08:57am

re: #81 Eclectic Cyborg

MS Tea Party targets GOP Congressman…for not stopping Obamacare

Note: This story appeared on the FRONT PAGE of our major daily paper

Gotta love Southern politics.

Image: snake-eats_tail.jpg

91 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:10:13am

re: #86 lawhawk

[Embedded content]


Fact is that Heritage came up with the individual mandate idea. It’s theirs. RomneyCare is based on the individual mandate, and ObamaCare is based on RomneyCare and the individual mandate - the idea that getting people to buy into the insurance or face penalties if they don’t - out of personal responsibility.

Note also that DeMint said Romneycare should be the model for healthcare reform nationally.

When this is pointed out to him, he hems and haws about it being the STATE not the FEDERAL government, but if the Individual Responsibility Mandate is fascistic coercion, how is being coerced by State Government okay?

92 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:11:39am

re: #87 Sol Berdinowitz

It is immoral to pay people for not working, just as it is immoral for people who do not work to be allowed to eat. that is what supply side jesus tells us…

Notice how Supply Side Jesus never says it is immoral to NOT pay people for working.

Funny, that.

93 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:12:01am

re: #91 GeneJockey

Note also that DeMint said Romneycare should be the model for healthcare reform nationally.

When this is pointed out to him, he hems and haws about it being the STATE not the FEDERAL government, but if the Individual Responsibility Mandate is fascistic coercion, how is being coerced by State Government okay?

Remember, it’s just good for certain states to decide that their electoral votes should not be winner takes all.
///

94 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:12:44am

re: #33 kerFuFFler

OT but I haven’t finished learning how to create a page yet …

Is/was this helpful?

If not, let me know how to improve it.

95 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:12:58am

And it would figure that CATO is busy trying to claim that the idea that we’ve got a crumbling infrastructure is bogus by claiming that the percentage of deficient bridges has dropped.

t.co

They claim that this means the crisis is over, and the fix to help get everything else into a state of good repair is … wait for it… moving everything to the private sector.

Oh, and cherry picking between those that are structurally deficient and those that are functionally obsolete (or the combined total).

A bridge can fall into both categories - like say the Pulaski skyway in NJ. Or it can be functionally obsolete because of too much traffic for the bridge capacity. CATO purposefully glosses over that.

96 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:14:39am

That was a highlight of the Obama/Romney debates, when Obama asked Romney why his plan was such a bad idea when applied nationally.

Romney replied that his plan was the product of bipartisan consensus, while ACA was forced on the nation by a Demmocratic controlled Congress.

In other words, it was all poopyheaded because the poopyheads pooped all over it…

97 KiTA  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:15:25am

re: #89 Decatur Deb

“Respice post te, hominem memento te.”

I prefer the more succinct “Memento mori”, Myself.

98 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:15:28am

re: #74 Ian G.

So I’ve been thinking, the way that sane conservatives (yes, they exist, just as dissidents now: Andrew Sullivan, Bruce Bartlett, Daniel Larison, etc.)

Daniel Larison has referred to himself as a ‘proud member of the League of the South’.

That’s a break with sanity, IMHO.

99 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:16:07am

re: #93 Feline Fearless Leader

Remember, it’s just good for certain states to decide that their electoral votes should not be winner takes all.
///

Remember the halcyon days before the 2000 election, when the Right thought it was possible that Gore would win the Electoral College but not the popular vote, and the EC was an archaic system that needed to go, because a President who won the EC but not the popular vote would lack legitimacy?

Boy, THAT sure changed in a trice, didn’t it?

101 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:17:13am

re: #78 KiTA

Holy cow, I made the front page. Thanks! :D

My coworker that reintroduced me to LGF (after the purge) is gonna love this. :D

Edit: I just wish I had been a bit more snarky in my post. :(

You can still edit it.

102 dog philosopher  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:17:13am

deMint:

In North Carolina, for example, many consumers will find their premiums almost double when shopping on the government exchanges.

if they are already paying premiums, they already have insurance, and if they already have insurance, why are they shopping on the exchange? and if they find that the premiums are double on the exchange, why would they get rid of their current insurance?

am i missing something? are people being forced to give up current insurance and only buy insurance available on the exchanges?

103 kerFuFFler  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:17:30am

re: #87 Sol Berdinowitz

It is immoral to pay people for not working, just as it is immoral for people who do not work to be allowed to eat. that is what supply side jesus tells us…

Except for farm subsidies where sometimes farmers are paid to not plant crops. The big J is totally down with that! //

104 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:19:27am

re: #98 wrenchwench

” It is to be expected that the awful Max Boot and his ilk would find fault with an organisation dedicated to the preservation and restoration of American constitutional traditions, traditional Christianity and especially Southern culture and identity by all honourable means.”
larison.org

105 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:19:32am

re: #102 dog philosopher

deMint:

In North Carolina, for example, many consumers will find their premiums almost double when shopping on the government exchanges.

…snip
am i missing something? are people being forced to give up current insurance and only buy insurance available on the exchanges?

No, they’re being bullshitted.

106 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:20:56am

re: #104 jaunte

Thank you! That was bookmarked on the old ‘puter…

107 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:21:40am

re: #106 wrenchwench

The humane and decent civilisation of the South that took root in the Southland, though of course it was never without flaws (as no earthly society could be lacking in them)

What a load of crap.

108 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:21:41am

re: #102 dog philosopher

deMint:

In North Carolina, for example, many consumers will find their premiums almost double when shopping on the government exchanges.

if they are already paying premiums, they already have insurance, and if they already have insurance, why are they shopping on the exchange? and if they find that the premiums are double on the exchange, why would they get rid of their current insurance?

am i missing something? are people being forced to give up current insurance and only buy insurance available on the exchanges?

My understanding is that insurance companies policies must be ACA compliant. This means that some of the more ridiculous policies, like $25,000 deductibles with really low caps, won’t exist any longer, so some folks are receiving notices that they have to buy insurance on the exchanges.

So what you do is you go in and find the Platinum plan that’s WAY more coverage than you had, and then you bitch that your premium went up.

109 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:24:36am

re: #107 jaunte

What a load of crap.

A heaping helping.

The defeat of the Confederacy, though the Confederate political experiment does not exhaust the richness of Southern culture and identity, was a defining moment when the United States took its steps towards the abyss of the monstrous centralised state, rootless society and decadent culture that we have today.

110 jaunte  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:26:00am

re: #109 wrenchwench

E’s pining for the fjeudalism.

111 kerFuFFler  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:27:01am

re: #94 wrenchwench

Is/was this helpful?

If not, let me know how to improve it.

I have not had the time to read through all of the info yet. The first stumbling block for me is that I do not know how to ‘turn off pop-up blocking’ which is the first instruction I see after clicking ‘create a page’. I will read a bit more before I pester you with questions. I apologize in advance for my lack of tech savvy and I thank you for creating the tutorial for the LGF community. :)

112 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:27:06am

re: #109 wrenchwench

A heaping helping.

Jesus! I used to read Larison’s stuff back in the Bush era, because he seemed like a Conservative who hadn’t given drunk the Koolaid. Good example of confirmation bias - I thought he as generally smart because I agreed with some of what he was saying.

113 lawhawk  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:29:01am

re: #102 dog philosopher

It’s possible that some insurers are ending some kinds of policies since they no longer meet the national minimums - higher levels of coverage and/or included preventative care. It’s possible that someone’s catastrophic care plans are being phased out, and while they might have been cheaper, they are being replaced by products that are better and for a wider range of people.

So few people understand benefits in the first place - the employer provided health benefits, that to then compare those to the health exchange where people may not have had any insurance previously is an apples-oranges comparison. For those who had individual plans before, and are now looking at the exchanges they might find similar plans, but they’d have to know what they’re looking at and what they’re looking for.

114 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:29:25am

re: #111 kerFuFFler

I have not had the time to read through all of the info yet. The first stumbling block for me is that I do not know how to ‘turn off pop-up blocking’ which is the first instruction I see after clicking ‘create a page’. I will read a bit more before I pester you with questions. I apologize in advance for my lack of tech savvy and I thank you for creating the tutorial for the LGF community. :)

If you say what browser you’re using, probably someone here can tell you how to turn off popup blocking. Probably not me, though.

:)

And you’re welcome.

115 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:32:35am

re: #112 GeneJockey

Jesus! I used to read Larison’s stuff back in the Bush era, because he seemed like a Conservative who hadn’t given drunk the Koolaid. Good example of confirmation bias - I thought he as generally smart because I agreed with some of what he was saying.

I see so many supposed left-of-center people refer to him as a sane conservative, it drives me nuts. There’s even one here who logs in regularly and posts occasionally who continues to do so, and feature him in her ‘recommended blogs’ list, even after I showed her the link Jaunte posted. What can you do?

116 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:37:10am

re: #112 GeneJockey

Jesus! I used to read Larison’s stuff back in the Bush era, because he seemed like a Conservative who hadn’t given drunk the Koolaid. Good example of confirmation bias - I thought he as generally smart because I agreed with some of what he was saying.

The beginning of wisdom, Grasshopper, is finding that many of the people you agree with are idiots.

117 GeneJockey  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:38:59am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

The beginning of wisdom, Grasshopper, is finding that many of the people you agree with are idiots.

And that many people who disagree with you aren’t. They’re just wrong.

118 EPR-radar  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:39:25am

re: #115 wrenchwench

I see so many supposed left-of-center people refer to him as a sane conservative, it drives me nuts. There’s even one here who logs in regularly and posts occasionally who continues to do so, and feature him in her ‘recommended blogs’ list, even after I showed her the link Jaunte posted. What can you do?

What on earth is sane about a neo-Confederate?

119 Decatur Deb  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:40:12am

re: #118 EPR-radar

What on earth is sane about a neo-Confederate?

Depends on which end of the whip you’re on.

120 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 11:41:50am

re: #118 EPR-radar

What on earth is sane about a neo-Confederate?

Larison either has a lot of people fooled, or a lot of people I thought were sane have me fooled. Or both.

I think there are some (otherwise) closeted racists who don’t come out and say it, but think it’s a reasonable position. And many of them are lefties.

Edit: Otherwise closeted, but it shows when they admire Larison, I meant.

121 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:34:23pm

re: #78 KiTA

Holy cow, I made the front page. Thanks! :D

My coworker fellow Team Member that reintroduced me to LGF (after the purge) is gonna love this. :D

Edit: I just wish I had been a bit more snarky in my post. :(

Just don’t get to cocky Frodo. We all eventually get promoted. BTW, Monday is going to be a blast.

122 KiTA  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:41:55pm

re: #121 Bubblehead II

Just don’t get to cocky Frodo. We all eventually get promoted. BTW, Monday is going to be a blast.

Bwahaha. :D I thought it was rarer. Still proud, and still wish I was snarkier. ;)

Not sure what you’re talking about re: Monday, let me know tomorrow morning I suppose?

123 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:42:21pm

re: #89 Decatur Deb

“Respice post te, hominem memento te.”

Frodo tends to get a bit over enthusiastic. The joys of youth I guess.

/ Was I ever that young?

124 KiTA  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:49:31pm

re: #123 Bubblehead II

Frodo tends to get a bit over enthusiastic. The joys of youth I guess.

/ Was I ever that young?

Hey now, this makes the Kos (2 or 3 times), LGF, Slashdot (4 or 5 times), and uh, a few other sites that I’ve been bumped up to the front page. I’m always excited when I add another one. :D

(Jeebus, how sad is my life?)

125 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:52:35pm

re: #122 KiTA

Not sure what you’re talking about re: Monday, let me know tomorrow morning I suppose?

Just the usual. Moving a bunch of machines and a few conversions. Eat your Wheatiees.

126 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 18, 2013 4:55:10pm

re: #124 KiTA

Hey now, this makes the Kos (2 or 3 times), LGF, Slashdot (4 or 5 times), and uh, a few other sites that I’ve been bumped up to the front page. I’m always excited when I add another one. :D

(Jeebus, how sad is my life?)

////// Do you really want me to answer that in a public forum? :-) x10

See you in the morning.


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
Once Praised, the Settlement to Help Sickened BP Oil Spill Workers Leaves Most With Nearly Nothing When a deadly explosion destroyed BP’s Deepwater Horizon drilling rig in the Gulf of Mexico, 134 million gallons of crude erupted into the sea over the next three months — and tens of thousands of ordinary people were hired ...
Cheechako
2 hours ago
Views: 42 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
3 days ago
Views: 159 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1