Republicans, It’s Time to Face Facts: The Right-Wing Media Is Lying to You

Wingnuts • Views: 30,845

Texas blogger Allen Clifton lays it out in plain language:

Bashing the media is an easy thing to do. Both political parties do it, though Republicans are far more aggressive with their accusation that the “liberal media” or “mainstream media” is out to get them. All while ignoring the obvious bias that Fox News displays nearly constantly.

And you’ll be hard-pressed to find many conservatives that are willing to actually be objective about Fox News.

As a liberal, I’ll fully admit that MSNBC has an obvious left-leaning slant, but it still pales in comparison to the right-wing cheerleading Fox News does on a daily basis.

But conservatives might need to face a simple reality: Their trusted media sources are lying to them.

Let me fess up to something right now — I watch a good deal of Fox News. It’s not easy but it’s necessary to understand what lunacy I might soon be dealing with, as most conservative arguments are taken directly from whatever Fox News talking point they’ve decided to push.

Do you know how many times I saw a Fox News anchor or show host call out John Boehner for blocking a vote on the Senate’s continuing resolution, which would have passed and prevented the government shutdown?

Zero.

A simple, indisputable fact about what was going on with the government shutdown—and they never mentioned it. At least they never did in the numerous hours I spent watching the network.

I can probably count on one hand the times I’ve heard “Obamacare” called the Affordable Care Act. You know, the actual name of the law. Because nothing says “legit and professional organization” like one that exclusively uses Republican talking points and rhetoric to discuss politics.

Anyone remember last year leading up to the elections? Almost every host on Fox News, and every right-wing media pundit I saw comments from, went out of their way to tell conservative voters that Romney was headed for an easy victory over President Obama. Even in the days leading up to the election, many right-wing “experts” were still telling Americans that Romney was going to defeat Obama.

This blatantly flew in the face of countless polls, and overwhelming evidence, that suggested not only was President Obama headed for re-election—it was going to be an overwhelming victory for the president.

And if these polls were ever used as evidence to counter the Republican belief that Romney was actually ahead, they were then painted as “liberally biased” and should be dismissed.

Except, all these “liberally biased” polls were spot-on and all this “right-wing evidence” was completely wrong. When President Obama was re-elected, Republicans were legitimately in shock. They couldn’t figure out how it had happened. Some even said the polls had to be rigged. After all, they were told for weeks and months Romney was headed toward an easy victory. How could this have happened?

Well, the answer is pretty simple: The right-wing media was lying to their voters.

Just like they were deceiving their voters during the government shutdown. Hell, just like they always lie to their voters.

More: Forward Progressives — Republicans, It’s Time to Face Facts: The Right-Wing Media Is Lying to You

I would go farther and say that a good many Republicans are perfectly aware that their media lie. Their reason for paying attention is not to stay informed but to stay current on the memes and talking points that serve as a diversion and smokescreen for their real agenda: Racism and an end to the forces that interfere with their ability to dominate, exploit, cheat, steal, and pillage.

Jump to bottom

57 comments
1 kerFuFFler  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 2:21:08pm

What’s left to say?

2 sauceruney  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 3:21:45pm

It’s on a site they’ll never touch or read anything from. The land of FOX is somewhere over the rainbow and the wizard behind the curtain will never be revealed.

3 Kragar  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:40:25pm

re: #1 kerFuFFler

What’s left to say?

Benghazi?

4 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:40:30pm

Woomp, there it is.

5 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:40:36pm

Lie to me. I promise I’ll believe.

Youtube Video

6 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:40:59pm
7 Charles Johnson  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:41:38pm

Liar - Todd Rundgren

Youtube Video

8 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:45:34pm

Seriously, folks. And this is one guy. Singular “threat”.

FBI and Capitol Police Investigating Ted Cruz Twitter Threats

abcnews.go.com

Vietnam Vet Gilmore obviously has some real issues.

“Gilmore’s Linkedin page reveals he was a former prison chef and says that his objective is to get a degree in “Homeland Security and Security Global Management.”

“I am trying to obtain now to make this world and my country a better and safe secure place for everyone especially my family and grand children who will still have to live in this world long after I and my generation are gone,” he wrote. “

No doubt, if anyone was serious about doing harm to Cruz, they would be able to locate a public figure like him.

9 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:47:49pm

Lies - The Knickerbockers

Youtube Video

10 b.d.  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:51:36pm

FOXNEWS’ LIES ARE MORE TRUTHFUL THAN THE CLINTON NEWS NETWORK’S TRUTHS OR FROM THAT TRUTHFUL TINGLE YOU GET FROM WATCHING MSDNC!!1!

11 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:55:24pm

Heh.

12 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:56:43pm

Well, I took a dip in the pool of crazy where my older boy has been fighting the good fight. One woman was talking about Obama and Reid and their Gestapo. My son called her on her hyperbole and the insult to actual victims of the actual Gestapo.

She said we need to read about the FEMA camps. Full blown, stupid crazy. They’re out there, folks. You might think they’d be too stupid to type - and indeed this one doesn’t know ‘your’ from ‘you’re’ - but you’d be wrong.

13 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:58:04pm

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

Heh.

[Embedded content]

“Colonial Klink”? WTF?

Kkkrraazzy.

14 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:58:22pm

The question becomes how to restore respect for the truth, the facts, the honest heart of the matters at hand. Where does that advocacy come from?

15 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:58:51pm

Inspector Lewis coming up. Lewis reruns are better than new anything.

16 b.d.  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 5:59:25pm

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

hahahaha,

So he was for bailing out Crysler?

17 Lidane  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:01:11pm

re: #14 Political Atheist

The question becomes how to restore respect for the truth, the facts, the honest heart of the matters at hand. Where does that advocacy come from?

Anywhere but the right wing media. It’s as simple as that.

18 AlexRogan  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:03:20pm

re: #11 Vicious Babushka

Heh.

Representative Cohen is a rare bird in Tennessee politics these days: one of only a couple of Democrats in a congressional delegation comprised almost entirely of Republicans (the other Democrat is my rep, Jim Cooper).

Memphis/Shelby County and Nashville/Davidson County are blue oases in a sea of red.

19 Justanotherhuman  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:03:51pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Inspector Lewis coming up. Lewis reruns are better than new anything.

I’ve been watching Inspector Morse reruns lately. : )

20 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:04:54pm

re: #14 Political Atheist

The question becomes how to restore respect for the truth, the facts, the honest heart of the matters at hand. Where does that advocacy come from?

The Right has spent the last 40 years actively undermining every purveyor of factual information.

Newsmedia? They’re all Dems or Commies!

Scientists? Science changes its mind! Evolution is a religion! Scientists are all in on the Global Warming hoax

Historians? Revisionism!!!

Actual writings of historical figures? Out of context!!!

Census Bureau? BLS? CBO? Government lies!

There are no longer any authorities that are universally trusted. How can we agree on policy, when we can’t even agree on reality, and can’t even agree on sources for determining what reality is?

21 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:06:38pm

re: #13 Justanotherhuman

“Colonial Klink”? WTF?

Kkkrraazzy.

I dearly love watching Hogan’s Heroes to this day. It’s more intellegent and funny than anything in the last 20 years on network TV and, most important, were things this bit from Wiki:

The actors who played the four major German roles—Werner Klemperer (Klink),[16] John Banner (Schultz), Leon Askin (Burkhalter), and Howard Caine (Hochstetter)—were Jewish. Furthermore, Klemperer, Banner, Askin, and Robert Clary (LeBeau) were Jews who had fled the Nazis during World War II. Clary says in the recorded commentary on the DVD version of episode “Art for Hogan’s Sake” that he spent three years in a concentration camp, that his parents and other family members were killed there, and that he has an identity tattoo from the camp on his arm (“A-5714”). Likewise John Banner had been held in a (pre-war) concentration camp and his family was killed during the war. Leon Askin was also in a pre-war French internment camp and his parents were killed at Treblinka. Howard Caine (Hochstetter), who was also Jewish (his birth name was Cohen), was American, and Jewish actors Harold Gould and Harold J. Stone played German generals.
As a teenager, Werner Klemperer (Klink) (son of the conductor Otto Klemperer) fled Hitler’s Germany with his family in 1933. During the show’s production, he insisted that Hogan always win over his Nazi captors or else he would not take the part of Klink. He defended his playing a Luftwaffe Officer by claiming, “I am an actor. If I can play Richard III, I can play a Nazi.” Banner attempted to sum up the paradox of his role by saying, “Who can play Nazis better than us Jews?” Ironically, although Klemperer, Banner, Caine, Gould, and Askin play stereotypical World War II Germans, all had actually served in the U.S. Armed Forces during World War II — Banner[17] and Askin in the U.S. Army Air Corps, Caine in the U.S. Navy, Gould with the U.S. Army, and Klemperer in a U.S. Army Entertainment Unit.

Fuck their trying to use Klink that way.

22 wrenchwench  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:08:19pm
23 b.d.  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:08:24pm

THE BIBLE AND THE CONSTITUTION ARE MY FACT CHECKERS!!

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:08:42pm

re: #15 Decatur Deb

Inspector Lewis coming up. Lewis reruns are better than new anything.

Watching Cowboy Bebop lately. Not sure how I missed it till now but it’s far an away the best TV show I’ve seen in years if not decades. Only thing that comes close is the modern dress BBC Sherlock.

25 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:09:35pm

re: #14 Political Atheist

The question becomes how to restore respect for the truth, the facts, the honest heart of the matters at hand. Where does that advocacy come from?

I think the factcheckers are doing a decent job and Politifact is going to start regular fact checks of the partisan pundit shows on cable TV. It won’t make much difference to the audiences of these shows but I think it will eventually start to chip away at the credibility of the pundits. They’ll have to start being more careful.

26 EPR-radar  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:09:46pm

re: #14 Political Atheist

The question becomes how to restore respect for the truth, the facts, the honest heart of the matters at hand. Where does that advocacy come from?

As far as I can tell, the GOP is committed to continually lying about what it is up to because its real policy position (tax cuts for the ultra rich at everyone else’s expense) is a non-starter if honestly set forth.

The GOP will have no interest at all in honest advocacy until its platform becomes non-sociopathic. That doesn’t seem to be happening any time soon.

27 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:10:54pm

re: #20 GeneJockey

The Right has spent the last 40 years actively undermining every purveyor of factual information.

Newsmedia? They’re all Dems or Commies!

Scientists? Science changes its mind! Evolution is a religion! Scientists are all in on the Global Warming hoax

Historians? Revisionism!!!

Actual writings of historical figures? Out of context!!!

Census Bureau? BLS? CBO? Government lies!

There are no longer any authorities that are universally trusted. How can we agree on policy, when we can’t even agree on reality, and can’t even agree on sources for determining what reality is?

That’s how I got my nic.

28 DaveBarnes  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:11:29pm

I support Obamacare.
I call it Obamacare to shove it in the face of the dipshits who oppose it.
I hate the vacuous name: Affordable Care Act.

29 GeneJockey  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:12:57pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

I think the factcheckers are doing a decent job and Politifact is going to start regular fact checks of the partisan pundit shows on cable TV. It won’t make much difference to the audiences of these shows but I think it will eventually start to chip away at the credibility of the pundits. They’ll have to start being more careful.

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it!!!

Seriously, you’re talking about an audience that has decided that Snopes is a Soros Plot, and Politifact is nearly as bad.

THEY DON’T CARE.

It’s true, because it FEELS true. It’s confirmation bias on steroids, with a methamphetamine chaser.

30 Lidane  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:14:33pm

re: #20 GeneJockey

The Right has spent the last 40 years actively undermining every purveyor of factual information.

Controlling access to information and controlling trust of that information is the first step to controlling thought. Control thought and it’s that much easier to keep people in line and doing your bidding without question. That’s Cult Leader 101.

The right wing reaction to Obama getting a second term showed exactly how effective the RW media has been in creating their alternate reality bubble.

There are no longer any authorities that are universally trusted. How can we agree on policy, when we can’t even agree on reality, and can’t even agree on sources for determining what reality is?

What we need is to find a way to deprogram people from the RWNJ reality bubble.

31 Killgore Trout  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:18:10pm

re: #29 GeneJockey

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Pull the other one, it’s got bells on it!!!

Seriously, you’re talking about an audience that has decided that Snopes is a Soros Plot, and Politifact is nearly as bad.

THEY DON’T CARE.

It’s true, because it FEELS true. It’s confirmation bias on steroids, with a methamphetamine chaser.

Of course the audiences of these shows don’t care if stuff is true or not. It’s a commercial formula to create self affirmation of the viewer, reality isn’t a concern.

32 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:19:56pm

re: #17 Lidane

Anywhere but the right wing media. It’s as simple as that.

Agree with the first sentence. I wish it were that simple. Simple implies an easy fix. Respect for truth has to step above mere left/right considerations.

33 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:20:35pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

Of course the audiences of these shows don’t care if stuff is true or not. It’s a commercial formula to create self affirmation of the viewer, reality isn’t a concern.

Your “factcheckers” are part of the same media, selling the same false equivalence to the same idiots. There’s absolutely zero reason to believe that they gain any credibility by wrapping themselves in a label, and their track record is absolutely abysmal.

34 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:21:19pm

re: #21 William Barnett-Lewis

I never knew any of that. I loved watching HH when I was a kid.

35 Lidane  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:21:52pm

re: #32 Political Atheist

Agree with the first sentence. I wish it were that simple. Simple implies an easy fix. Respect for truth has to step above mere left/right considerations.

Sure, but when one side has decided that objective reality, science, history, and reason are liberal plots, you have to deal with left/right considerations.

36 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:24:18pm

re: #32 Political Atheist

Agree with the first sentence. I wish it were that simple. Simple implies an easy fix. Respect for truth has to step above mere left/right considerations.

Yes, but remember that a large segment of RWNJ find their Truth in the KJV Bible, which was dictated by God in 17th century poetic English to Moses and the Gospel writers.

37 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:36:39pm

re: #36 wheat-dogghazi

Yes, but remember that a large segment of RWNJ find their Truth in the KJV Bible, which was dictated by God in 17th century poetic English to Moses and the Gospel writers.

The irony in that is deep. The KJV was a new translation ordered by the King because the then preferred translation offended him. The Geneva translation was, textually, acceptable though in certain ways the KJV is both superior and inferior. The big deal though was that they Geneva came complete with footnotes telling the faithful what given passages where supposed to mean. Those footnotes also tended to be very in line with Puritan and Presbyterian theology and very very very anti-monarchy. The latter, more than anything else, drove the KJV translation effort which was given a royal command - there would be NO footnotes.

The later irony is that the lack of footnotes is what allowed there to be no preset theological conclusion thus allowing it, in the end, to fill the Protestant ideal of the individual reading and inwardly digesting the bible without outside help. Though there were some editions of the KJV that were printed with the Geneva’s footnotes included, they fell by the wayside rather quickly.

Later we had other problems, mostly arising in the 1900’s over weird ideas about Revelations that would have horrified the early Protestants, but that’s another bible lesson for another day.. ;)

38 fern01  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:37:06pm

“MSNBC has an obvious left-leaning slant”

Not that I have seen in recent times. Have you not seen Chris Hayes attacking the President endlessly & Morning Joe - 3 hours every weekday - right wing forever - There is NO left leaning media - NONE

39 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:49:08pm

re: #38 fern01

“MSNBC has an obvious left-leaning slant”

Not that I have seen in recent times. Have you not seen Chris Hayes attacking the President endlessly & Morning Joe - 3 hours every weekday - right wing forever - There is NO left leaning media - NONE

Are you joking? Think Progress. Daily Kos. KPFK

40 Ming  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:50:44pm

With Fox News, it’s not only a question of lies about facts, or serving up memes and talking points. It’s a sickening emotional incitement, 24/7, causing millions of Americans to believe that they’re in a culture war, that the country is polarized and about to break apart, that the time for reconciliation is long past and we’re now in mortal combat. Even if we temporarily put aside the facts and memes and talking points, the emotional negativity and intensity is scary all by itself.

I work with one guy whom I’ve known for a few years and I’ve always liked him. Every now and then I’ll hear him make a comment like “Obama? I just hate the bastard.” I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say anything negative about anyone else, other than the President. The sheer emotional negativity spread by Fox News, every day, is really sickening.

41 Lidane  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:51:58pm

re: #39 Political Atheist

Are you joking? Think Progress. Daily Kos. KPFK

All of which are blogs and not mainstream media.

42 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 6:57:38pm

re: #41 Lidane

So,,, Rachael Maddow and the Ed Show? He did not say mainstream, he said NONE.

43 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:20:36pm

re: #42 Political Atheist

So,,, Rachael Maddow and the Ed Show? He did not say mainstream, he said NONE.

Are they opinionated and liberal, yes. Do they blatantly lie in their coverage like FOX does, no. Mainly because reality conforms far more closely to their point of view, it’s easy for them to tell the truth because the truth doesn’t offer a counterpoint to their ideology. Fox lies and manipulates constantly in it’s ostensibly neutral news coverage, then cranks up those lies in the opinion shows. In comparison MSNBC, both news and opinion programming, are paragons of professionalism.

44 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:26:42pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Hang on there I my metric is not by comparison. In my view the objective center is anchored, the extremes are what moves. Yes the right went way out there. How is that supposed to get anyone else off the hook for honesty or objectivity?

45 goddamnedfrank  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:32:48pm

re: #44 Political Atheist

How is that supposed to get anyone else off the hook for honesty or objectivity?

By even saying this you’re implying that Maddow and Schultz are neither honest nor objective. My contention is that overwhelmingly they are. The “objective center” is not the truth, even if it doesn’t move.

46 Political Atheist  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:34:30pm

re: #45 goddamnedfrank

Honest? Yes. An honest presentation of a carefully considered and strongly progressive view. My bad for implying any dishonesty there. Hyperbole (Ed Show) is advocacy not dishonesty in his instance.

So about that dearth of objective mainstream media or blogs? What of that vacuum?

47 Decatur Deb  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:41:51pm

re: #39 Political Atheist

Are you joking? Think Progress. Daily Kos. KPFK

Heh. Pacifica Radio. Used to listen to WBAI, their NYC sister,
in the ’60s. They were a little moonbatty even then, but still the best thing going.

48 Mr.Boots  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 7:59:33pm

I will freely admit that I watch some FNC. I like to know what they are saying. It helps me to silently laugh at conservative friends who swear that they never watch Fox. I find that this happening more and more often. Righties swearing they don’t watch Fox or they don’t listen to Rush, but somehow they channel Hannity, O’Reilly, and Rush word for word.

49 sagehen  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 8:53:01pm

re: #44 Political Atheist

Hang on there I my metric is not by comparison. In my view the objective center is anchored, the extremes are what moves. Yes the right went way out there. How is that supposed to get anyone else off the hook for honesty or objectivity?

The “center” is not at all anchored.

When Nixon signed EPA, OSHA, Affirmative Action, Title IX, Title X, he was as far right as anybody who could possibly have been elected at the time. The only people further right were fringey newsletter types, people too far right to be allowed to speak at the convention, and random third party wackjobs. Every one of those policies is at the leftiest edge of today’s Congress and State Legislatures.

Today’s center is not 1972’s center.

50 Lidane  Sat, Oct 19, 2013 8:56:24pm

re: #49 sagehen

The “center” is not at all anchored.

When Nixon signed EPA, OSHA, Affirmative Action, Title IX, Title X, he was as far right as anybody who could possibly have been elected at the time. The only people further right were fringey newsletter types, people too far right to be allowed to speak at the convention, and random third party wackjobs. Every one of those policies is at the leftiest edge of today’s Congress and State Legislatures.

Today’s center is not 1972’s center.

Hell, today’s center isn’t even 1992’s center.

In 1992, the idea of an individual mandate for health insurance was a conservative Republican idea from Heritage that the GOP flogged as an alternative to Hillarycare. Today it’s law in the form of the ACA. At the same time, the liberal to moderate Republicans of 1992 are now Democrats and the GOP itself has shifted back to Bircher territory, with a healthy dose of Dixiecrat tossed in for good measure.

51 jonhendry  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:22:54am

re: #28 DaveBarnes

I support Obamacare.
I call it Obamacare to shove it in the face of the dipshits who oppose it.
I hate the vacuous name: Affordable Care Act.

“ACA” is short and to the point, and thus miles better than the idiotic practice of making up some Soviet-worthy propagandistic name and shoehorning words into it to make a clumsy acronym.

For example, the odious “Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001”, aka the USA PATRIOT Act.

52 jonhendry  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 2:00:47am

One trick Fox often uses is to have on conservatives from thinktanks or ideologically-driven interest groups, or conservative pundits, with the “liberal” POV provided by journalists or academics.

The liberal side is thus generally someone with a professional reputation to consider, and some standards. The conservative side will be a wingnut pundit, or someone from an ideologically-driven interest group, think tank. None of the participants from the right have any particular incentive to be honest and make good arguments. There’s no professional sanction for going on O’Reilly and bullshitting, the only professional sanction is for failing to successfully advance the agenda.

On that one Fox show, they’ll have that woman from NPR, along with Juan Williams, who seems to still have some kind of standards, while the right wing will be people like Bill Kristol and Charles Krauthammer.

53 Decatur Deb  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 5:05:07am

re: #51 jonhendry

“ACA” is short and to the point, and thus miles better than the idiotic practice of making up some Soviet-worthy propagandistic name and shoehorning words into it to make a clumsy acronym.

For example, the odious “Uniting (and) Strengthening America (by) Providing Appropriate Tools Required (to) Intercept (and) Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001”, aka the USA PATRIOT Act.

Personally prefer “Obamacare”, and it is the name that will stick once it’s successful. In the meanwhile one of the better polls, PPP or Gallup, found as much as a 7 point difference in a test when nothing but the name was changed in their favorability question. So it’s ACA in Alabama for now.

54 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 9:08:34am

re: #49 sagehen

The “center” is not at all anchored.

When Nixon signed EPA, OSHA, Affirmative Action, Title IX, Title X, he was as far right as anybody who could possibly have been elected at the time. The only people further right were fringey newsletter types, people too far right to be allowed to speak at the convention, and random third party wackjobs. Every one of those policies is at the leftiest edge of today’s Congress and State Legislatures.

Today’s center is not 1972’s center.

WRONG CENTER
Objectivity is the anchor at center. The willingness to set aside hyperbole and lies, regardless of the source. From your comment it’s an impossible attitude. I disagree.

Everyone is so mad at the right they can’t even admit a center exists. That’s amazing to me especially here.

So again about that dearth of objective media…. MSNBC ain’t it. CNHN ain’t it. BBC America perhaps.

55 Political Atheist  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 9:08:57am

re: #50 Lidane

Hell, today’s center isn’t even 1992’s center.

In 1992, the idea of an individual mandate for health insurance was a conservative Republican idea from Heritage that the GOP flogged as an alternative to Hillarycare. Today it’s law in the form of the ACA. At the same time, the liberal to moderate Republicans of 1992 are now Democrats and the GOP itself has shifted back to Bircher territory, with a healthy dose of Dixiecrat tossed in for good measure.

*sigh*

Wrong center.
You guys are way to willing to let the loud extreme redefine ordinary terms in their own interest. Why is that?

The more I read here the less I want to have to do with any party. Calm centrists are the rarest breed on the American spectrum. Good for rating and clicks and hits. Really sad for the nation.

56 boredtechindenver  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 12:02:33pm

re: #22 wrenchwench

Hey, I can see my house from there!

57 Rixar13  Sun, Oct 20, 2013 2:27:53pm

Face the Facts…


This article has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2023-04-04 11:11 am PDT
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
PayPal
Cash.app
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ...
Cheechako
2 days ago
Views: 105 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ...
Cheechako
2 weeks ago
Views: 270 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1