Fox News Reportedly Used Fake Commenter Accounts to Rebut Critical Blog Posts

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Fox takes a page from Greenwald, using socks to counter criticism & it makes you wonder how many socks they registered here over the years.

NPR media reporter David Folkenflik writes in his forthcoming book Murdoch’s World that Fox News’ public relations staffers used an elaborate series of dummy accounts to fill the comments sections of critical blog posts with pro-Fox arguments.

In a chapter focusing on how Fox utilized its notoriously ruthless public relations department in the mid-to-late 00’s, Folkenflik reports that Fox’s PR staffers would “post pro-Fox rants” in the comments sections of “negative and even neutral” blog posts written about the network. According to Folkenflik, the staffers used various tactics to cover their tracks, including setting up wireless broadband connections that “could not be traced back” to the network.

A former staffer told Folkenflik that they had personally used “one hundred” fake accounts to plant Fox-friendly commentary:

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263 comments
1 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 7:30:31am

Fox and the right using sockpuppets and paying trolls has been going on for ages.
Glad people are starting to find out and report on it.

2 Petero1818  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:29:52am

Sockghazi

3 Tim TeaBro  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:31:02am

I’m not 100% believing this unless I get some more confirmation.

More like 98%.

It is entirely believable due to their consistent lack of ethics and partisan cheerleading.

4 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:34:28am

Brought to you by the same people who repeatedly accused Charles Johnson of having oodles of fake accounts and posting on Conservative sites.

5 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:35:49am

Librul PLANTS!

6 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:36:11am

President Obama speaking now on ACA.

7 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:36:51am

Combine that with Sen. Rand Paul basically saying that he’s an admitted liar and will lie and say anything to further his agenda, and you’ve got a recipe for agitprop theater from the right capable of overwhelming facts and logic since they’re able to spout off faster than the truth can catch up.

8 Petero1818  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:37:10am

To be honest, this doesn’t surprise me and I would not be surprised to find that there are those on the left that have engaged in the same behaviour.

9 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:38:14am

Something struck me in the Maddowblog story about Inhofe’s “Obamacare woulda killt me!” nonsense:

After going in for a routine colonoscopy, doctors found Inhofe’s arteries were so clogged he barely made it onto the operating table, he said in comments airing on journalist Aaron Klein’s WABC radio show tonight.

So, they looked up his ass, and found his heart? I’m not surprised. I’d expect them to find his brain there, as well.

10 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:39:32am

re: #9 GeneJockey

Angioplasty would have found arterial blockages, a colonoscopy would have found him stuffed full of shiite.

11 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:41:28am

re: #10 lawhawk

Angioplasty would have found arterial blockages, a colonoscopy would have found him stuffed full of shiite.

I’d have thought the clean-out routine would have cleared his mind.

12 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:53:02am

Re: OP… This is news?

13 ericblair  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:56:00am

re: #4 Eclectic Cyborg

Brought to you by the same people who repeatedly accused Charles Johnson of having oodles of fake accounts and posting on Conservative sites.

People without a lot of imagination or empathy can only think of accusing the Other Side of doing what they themselves are doing. Too hard to actually put yourself in the Other’s shoes and figure things out from there, and that would be thoughtcrime anyway.

Makes it fairly easy to see what the goopers are up to at any point, since you just need to see what horrible transgressions they’re accusing their enemies of.

14 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 8:56:03am
15 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:02:49am

re: #7 lawhawk

Combine that with Sen. Rand Paul basically saying that he’s an admitted liar and will lie and say anything to further his agenda, and you’ve got a recipe for agitprop theater from the right capable of overwhelming facts and logic since they’re able to spout off faster than the truth can catch up.

They’ve taken creationist tactics like the Gish gallop to heart.

16 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:05:10am

So, how many of these socks logged on to the ACA site and caused the logjam ?

17 mechanic  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:06:05am

…but ugly goes all the way to the bone.

18 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:06:14am
19 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:06:37am

Anyone else seen this new RW meme where apparently the phone number fo ACA is like 1-800-F**K-OFF or something like that?

20 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:06:42am

Haha, Sarah Palin has been accused of sock puppetry many times. For instance,

Sarah Palin Playing Sock Puppet On Her Own Facebook Account?

wonkette.com

Also, there have been accusations of paid commenters on the Palin-worshiping blog, C4P, on her FB acct, and others on various sites.

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:07:13am

re: #18 darthstar

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I really hope that when Obama leaves office he writes a book and finally lets loose on these people the way he really wants to.

22 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:07:46am
23 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:07:47am

re: #20 Justanotherhuman

Haha, Sarah Palin has been accused of sock puppetry many times. For instance,

Sarah Palin Playing Sock Puppet On Her Own Facebook Account?

wonkette.com

Also, there have been accusations of paid commenters on the Palin-worshiping blog, C4P, on her FB acct, and others on various sites.

Reminds me of when Romney bought himself thousands of Twitter followers during the campaign.

24 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:08:15am


Ahem.

25 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:08:23am

re: #22 darthstar

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So…the gerrymandering didn’t work after all?

26 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:09:16am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

I guess the last GOP president we had was Reagan. //

27 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:10:25am

re: #26 Bulworth

I guess the last GOP president we had was Reagan. //

HE WAS A REAL MAN!!!11!!!!

28 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:11:03am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

Ahem.

I guess actual people who need to get health insurance being able to get health insurance is not an important issue for Fischer.

29 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:11:07am

re: #22 darthstar

There’s still a year, and the GOP will pull every deregistering, voter ID-requiring, misinformation trick in the book. No complacency. GOTV more important than ever.

And OT but awesome:

Image: 9YrhpxO.jpg

30 AntonSirius  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:11:45am

re: #8 Petero1818

To be honest, this doesn’t surprise me and I would not be surprised to find that there are those on the left that have engaged in the same behaviour.

Because clearly, the Brett Kimberlins of the world have the same authority and sterling reputation as Fox News.

That’s what you meant, right?

31 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:13:20am

re: #28 Bulworth

Insurance companies’ ability to increase profits by denying coverage has been diminished today. It’s just not how Reagan would have wanted it.

32 AntonSirius  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:13:26am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

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Ahem.

Double negative applies here. Diminished in the eyes of BFisch equals raised up in the eyes of sane people.

33 Ian G.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:15:24am

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

Bryan’s aware that Reagan fought against Proposition 6, a bill that would have made it possible to fire gay teachers, right?

He’s mixing up the reality of Ronald Reagan with the myth of Ronaldus Mangus, Scourge of the Lib’ruls again.

34 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:18:35am

Basic propaganda-Control The Narrative.

35 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:20:10am

Pres Obama helps woman about to faint during speech (note: transcript of speech and gif of incident).

36 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:21:31am
Cruz: Senate Republicans are ‘single-most damaging thing’ for the GOP in 2014

Please proceed…

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

37 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:21:50am

re: #22 darthstar

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Not nearly enough. They need to be bludgeoned at the polls. EVERYONE needs to get out to vote as if this was a Presidential election.

38 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:21:51am

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Props!!

39 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:22:56am

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Pres Obama helps woman about to faint during speech (note: transcript of speech and gif of incident).

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A PLANT!!!!!!!!

40 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:23:08am

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Pres Obama helps woman about to faint during speech (note: transcript of speech and gif of incident).

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It was very sweet. He turned, helped stabilize her, and said, “It’s okay, you’re fine.” Very reassuring and genuinely sensitive.

She was wearing some kind of medical device on her arm - looked like an IV drug release mechanism. He said, “This always happens when I speak too long.”

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:23:24am

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

False Flag!!11!!!

42 Sly_  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:25:19am

re: #25 Eclectic Cyborg

So…the gerrymandering didn’t work after all?

Sam Wang at PEC makes a convincing argument, backed up by polling data, that partisan gerrymandering actually hurts the majority party incumbent when there are big voter swings.

The short version is that the kind of gerrymandering Republicans generally engaged in after 2010 entailed pushing as many Democrats into as few districts as possible, leaving other districts with a Republican/Independent majority. If the Independents switch sides, however, which appears to be happening in quite a number of these districts, then those assumed safe seats are made more vulnerable than the average seat.

In other words, gerrymandering works “best” when it is done to keep a particular incumbent in a particular seat (like Peter King in New York), not when it is done to give more seats to a particular party, as was done in states like North Carolina and Ohio. Especially when that particular party is ideologically exclusive to the point of pushing away constituencies that it needs for an electoral majority.

43 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:25:24am

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Not nearly enough. They need to be bludgeoned at the polls. EVERYONE needs to get out to vote as if this was a Presidential election.

Exactly. GOTV is going to be very, very important for Dems in 2014—and so are credible Dem candidates.

We haven’t had a decent Dem candidate to run against Patrick McHenry in this NC district ever. And no support from the State Party, either. This is the kind of shit that needs to stop—our State Dems are in disarray and in some counties, outside of large metro areas, almost non-existent.

44 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:25:42am

What’s up with Google? Is it Mardi Gras time?

45 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:28:04am

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

It’s apparently the birthday of Úrsula Hilaria Celia de la Caridad Cruz Alfonso de la Santísima Trinidad.

46 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:28:13am

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

What’s up with Google? Is it Mardi Gras time?

Celia Cruz’s 88th birthday. : )

Youtube Video

47 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:28:17am

re: #16 b_sharp

So, how many of these socks logged on to the ACA site and caused the logjam ?

My thoughts on the issue as well. I have to wonder how many involved in the creation of the website might have had negative input as well.

48 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:30:56am

re: #45 jaunte

It’s apparently the birthday of Úrsula Hilaria Celia de la Caridad Cruz Alfonso de la Santísima Trinidad.

Did you type all that or cut ‘n paste?

49 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:31:05am

re: #42 Sly_

welcome, hatchling!

50 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:34:11am

re: #44 FemNaziBitch

What’s up with Google? Is it Mardi Gras time?

Salsa queen (the music/dancing, not the tasty sauce)

51 prairiefire  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:34:14am

re: #42 Sly_

Sam Wang at PEC makes a convincing argument, backed up by polling data, that partisan gerrymandering actually hurts the majority party incumbent when there are big voter swings.

The short version is that the kind of gerrymandering Republicans generally engaged in after 2010 entailed pushing as many Democrats into as few districts as possible, leaving other districts with a Republican/Independent majority. If the Independents switch sides, however, which appears to be happening in quite a number of these districts, then those assumed safe seats are made more vulnerable than the average seat.

In other words, gerrymandering works “best” when it is done to keep a particular incumbent in a particular seat (like Peter King in New York), not when it is done to give more seats to a particular party, as was done in states like North Carolina and Ohio. Especially when that particular party is ideologically exclusive to the point of pushing away constituencies that it needs for an electoral majority.

Hello.

52 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:34:52am
53 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:35:43am

Was out of town since Friday. Didn’t turn the computer on once. Did you miss me?

54 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:37:07am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

WTF is the fascination with virgins?

If you haven’t seen Book of Mormon, you must. They address baby rape and the solution that the really bad missionary suggests is fucking frogs. Later you have guys dancing around with frogs on their dicks…quite funny.

55 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:37:24am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

WTF is the fascination with virgins?

A lot of folks are under the superstitious impression that it’s a cure for HIV/AIDS.

56 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:37:52am

From Senator Dick Durbin’s fb page:

Many Republicans searching for something to say in defense of the disastrous shutdown strategy will say President Obama just doesn’t try hard enough to communicate with Republicans. But in a “negotiation” meeting with the president, one GOP House Leader told the president: “I cannot even stand to look at you.”

What are the chances of an honest conversation with someone who has just said something so disrespectful?

Any idea on how to authenticate?

57 Dr. Matt  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:38:00am

re: #5 Gus

Librul PLANTS!

Ferns or evergreens?

58 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:39:32am

re: #54 darthstar

If you haven’t seen Book of Mormon, you must. They address baby rape and the solution that the really bad missionary suggests is fucking frogs. Later you have guys dancing around with frogs on their dicks…quite funny.

I started to read it years ago. I got to the part where Jesus came to America and buried extra commandments (or something like that) and Joseph Smith unburied them. I just couldn’t read any further.

59 nines09  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:39:34am

Fox falsifies everything? I’m astounded. Let me get my “I’m astounded” face on. There. Or was it astonished? Let me check…..

60 Sionainn  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:40:13am

When I click on the “quote” button to reply to a specific post, it pops me back out to the original OP without the comments section. I’m using Firefox. Any clue to what the problem may be?

61 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:40:52am

re: #55 Dr Lizardo

A lot of folks are under the superstitious impression that it’s a cure for HIV/AIDS.

Yeah, I don’t get that at all.

62 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:40:56am

re: #60 Sionainn

When I click on the “quote” button to reply to a specific post, it pops me back out to the original OP without the comments section. I’m using Firefox. Any clue to what the problem may be?

Try clearing your cache. That’s usually works for me.

63 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:41:10am

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

I started to read it years ago. I got to the part where Jesus came to America and buried extra commandments (or something like that) and Joseph Smith unburied them. I just couldn’t read any further.

I think he is referring to the South Park creators’ musical.

64 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:41:24am

re: #58 FemNaziBitch

I started to read it years ago. I got to the part where Jesus came to America and buried extra commandments (or something like that) and Joseph Smith unburied them. I just couldn’t read any further.

Not the ACTUAL book of Mormon, the broadway play.

65 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:42:24am

re: #61 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, I don’t get that at all.

I don’t either, but there’s a lot of superstitious mumbo-jumbo in the world. Understanding empirical data and science seems to be hard; hell, look at the TP’ers.

It won’t be much longer before they overtly embrace the ideology of Boko Haram.

66 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:43:46am
67 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:44:50am


This is the crap we’re going to see nonstop. The right wing has taken leave of its senses and reality.

The ACA doesn’t hold anyone hostage. Insurance companies are getting a windfall because they get the full price of the insurance premiums from people who register and get policies through them. The government subsidy means that the insured doesn’t have to pay the full value but the insurer gets the full amount.

It sets new minimum levels of quality for insurance policies. It eliminates restrictions for preexisting conditions, provides dependent coverage through age 26, and eliminates lifetime caps.

All of those restrictions could and did have killing consequences previously. Someone max out their lifetime cap, and they couldn’t get insurance, let alone affordable coverage leaving them susceptible to ailments that could and should have been treated.

People die all the time b/c of the lack of insurance coverage under the pre-ACA system. It’s a bad system when you don’t have coverage. The ACA is designed to encourage people to get insurance.

All we’re seeing is scare tactics from the right. Not facts.

68 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:46:49am

re: #67 lawhawk

A lie repeated often enough … . .

69 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:48:37am

re: #65 Dr Lizardo

I don’t either, but there’s a lot of superstitious mumbo-jumbo in the world. Understanding empirical data and science seems to be hard; hell, look at the TP’ers.

It won’t be much longer before they overtly embrace the ideology of Boko Haram.

I thought maybe they had been watching Fox News . ..

70 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:49:39am

re: #48 FemNaziBitch

cut ‘n paste!

71 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:50:25am

WTFITS

72 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:50:48am

Dim Jim once again gets causation and correlation wrong.


And is it a surprise that the map showing where this is worst happens to be the South? AKA Red States.

And the report itself notes other trends, like charter schools and that those able to afford private schools are putting their kids into those program, consolidating and concentrating those who aren’t able to afford to do those kinds of moves in public schools.

It’s an education gap, but one that the GOP is making systematically worse through their policies that are cutting funding to education, or worse, trying to push creationism into schools and other nonsense into the classrooms.

73 teleskiguy  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:51:12am

Being a life-long resident of the clear-aired Rocky Mountains, this made me cough just looking at it.

74 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:51:35am

Which one is his “official” FB page?

facebook.com

facebook.com

75 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:51:45am

re: #72 lawhawk

Dim Jim once again gets causation and correlation wrong.

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And is it a surprise that the map showing where this is worst happens to be the South? AKA Red States.

And the report itself notes other trends, like charter schools and that those able to afford private schools are putting their kids into those program, consolidating and concentrating those who aren’t able to afford to do those kinds of moves in public schools.

It’s an education gap, but one that the GOP is making systematically worse through their policies that are cutting funding to education, or worse, trying to push creationism into schools and other nonsense into the classrooms.

and neither of which mean jack without a double-blind controlled experiment to back it up.

76 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:52:31am

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

…it is in fact repressive - and only a few can participate…

This food is awful, and the portions are too small!

77 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:53:06am

re: #74 Justanotherhuman

Which one is his “official” FB page?

facebook.com

facebook.com

No clue the one with him in the blue shirt is the one on my fb, from which I got the quote.

78 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:55:54am

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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hate and racism and prejudice and ignorance

79 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:56:31am

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

hate and racism and prejudice and ignorance

OH WAYT THEIR IS MOAR RACISM!!!

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:56:54am

re: #77 FemNaziBitch

No clue the one with him in the blue shirt is the one on my fb, from which I got the quote.

Your second link (Senator Dick Durbin) has the blue checkmark indicating it’s the official one.

81 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:57:24am

re: #71 Vicious Babushka

Repressive. Confirmed. FACT. //

82 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:57:57am
83 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 9:58:39am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Your second link (Senator Dick Durbin) has the blue checkmark indicating it’s the official one.

OK, thanks for that info. Not a user, so didn’t know about the blue check mark; will remember that for the future. : )

84 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:00:01am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

A land full of pure, undefiled female virgins and where every dude has multiple notches in his bedpost, that’s Amercia. /

85 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:00:26am

re: #80 Backwoods_Sleuth

Your second link (Senator Dick Durbin) has the blue checkmark indicating it’s the official one.

ah!

86 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:00:52am

re: #84 Bulworth

A land full of pure, undefiled female virgins and where every dude has multiple notches in his bedpost, that’s Amercia. /

Notches go both ways, ya know.

87 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:02:53am

2 dead, 2 critical in Sparks shooting.

Police will hold a 11am briefing.

7th grader Faith Evans tells Channel 2 News that she saw a fellow 7th grader shoot a teacher and possibly another fellow 7th grader. She thinks she heard about five shots fired, and then ran from the scene. She also tells us the shooting happened in the back of the school.

88 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:07:43am

re: #60 Sionainn

When I click on the “quote” button to reply to a specific post, it pops me back out to the original OP without the comments section. I’m using Firefox. Any clue to what the problem may be?

Firefox has been getting increasingly buggy, and sometimes the Javascript engine just stops working. When you click one of those buttons and you pop out to the front page, it means Javascript has died.

The solution is to quit and restart Firefox, and if that doesn’t work, restart the computer.

89 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:09:21am

re: #88 Charles Johnson

Firefox has been getting increasingly buggy, and sometimes the Javascript engine just stops working. When you click one of those buttons and you pop out to the front page, it means Javascript has died.

The solution is to quit and restart Firefox, and if that doesn’t work, restart the computer.

I’ve given up on Firefox entirely at this point. After the last update was installed, it restarted and immediately froze.

Firefox used to be a really good browser. Completely gone to crap, it has.

90 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:11:55am

re: #89 makeitstop

I’ve given up on Firefox entirely at this point. After the last update was installed, it restarted and immediately froze.

Firefox used to be a really good browser. Completely gone to crap, it has.

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

91 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:13:45am

re: #90 Political Atheist

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

NSA controls everything. They are going to get all your information no matter what.

92 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:13:47am

re: #90 Political Atheist

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

Tabs. Each tab shows up as a seperate instance for some reason.

93 Ian G.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:14:26am

re: #52 FemNaziBitch

WTF is the fascination with virgins?

Fascination with virgins seems like something hard-wired in our psyche. Christopher Hitchens had his list of gods/prophets who were allegedly born of a virgin, and the list covers god/prophets from cultures all across the globe, from the Aztecs to the Greeks to the Egyptians to the Hindus to the Mongols.

So this might be yet another awful incarnation of our species’ strange fascination with virgins.

94 Dr. Matt  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:14:44am

re: #89 makeitstop

I’ve given up on Firefox entirely at this point. After the last update was installed, it restarted and immediately froze.

Firefox used to be a really good browser. Completely gone to crap, it has.

x2

I use Chrome on everything now. Chrome today is what Firefox was years ago: fast, efficient, & relatively seamless.

95 Ian G.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:16:06am

re: #73 teleskiguy

This is the way Pittsburgh looked a mere 60-70 years ago. Ever heard of the Donora smog?

And mind you, this is the way much of this country would look NOW if the GOP had its way and gutted the EPA and the Clean Air Act.

96 bubba zanetti  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:16:30am

re: #92 makeitstop

It’s so a tab can crash without taking everything else with it.

97 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:17:33am

re: #90 Political Atheist

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

Good explaination here: productforums.google.com

Basically, each tab gets a process so that when it crashes, the rest of the application can continue to function.

98 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:19:14am

re: #37 GlutenFreeJesus

Not nearly enough. They need to be bludgeoned at the polls. EVERYONE needs to get out to vote as if this was a Presidential election.

For quite a while now I have been posting something like that on every pro Dem site I go to.

99 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:19:58am

re: #96 bubba zanetti

It’s so a tab can crash without taking everything else with it.

Good explanation. I hadn’t thought of that.

100 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:20:35am

re: #99 makeitstop

Good explanation. I hadn’t thought of that.

I didn’t either —although I don’t understand a bit if it.

101 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:20:40am

bbl

102 calochortus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:21:19am

re: #93 Ian G.

Fascination with virgins seems like something hard-wired in our psyche. Christopher Hitchens had his list of gods/prophets who were allegedly born of a virgin, and the list covers god/prophets from cultures all across the globe, from the Aztecs to the Greeks to the Egyptians to the Hindus to the Mongols.

So this might be yet another awful incarnation of our species’ strange fascination with virgins.

Before the advent of DNA testing sex with a virgin was the only way a man could guarantee that a child was his. I would imagine that has a lot to do with it.

103 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:21:37am

re: #93 Ian G.

Fascination with virgins seems like something hard-wired in our psyche. Christopher Hitchens had his list of gods/prophets who were allegedly born of a virgin, and the list covers god/prophets from cultures all across the globe, from the Aztecs to the Greeks to the Egyptians to the Hindus to the Mongols.

So this might be yet another awful incarnation of our species’ strange fascination with virgins.

Virgins are okay I guess, but I’d rather have a trained professional.

104 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:21:40am
105 makeitstop  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:22:06am

re: #100 FemNaziBitch

I didn’t either —although I don’t understand a bit if it.

The difference being - if an open tab in Firefox stops working, the entire browser crashes. If, say, the Flash plugin crashes in one tab of Chrome, other open tabs are not affected.

106 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:23:16am

re: #73 teleskiguy

Being a life-long resident of the clear-aired Rocky Mountains, this made me cough just looking at it.

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That would be America if the teabaggers had their way.

107 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:23:44am

Pope Francis describes ‘ideological Christians’ as a ‘serious illness’ within the Church

Speaking at daily Mass last Thursday, Pope Francis warned Christians against turning their faith into a rigid ideology.

“The faith passes, so to speak, through a distiller and becomes ideology,” he said, according to Radio Vatican. “And ideology does not beckon [people]. In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid.

“And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements.”

“The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people,” Francis added. “But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”

108 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:24:27am

re: #107 Kragar

Wow. I’m not Catholic, but I must say I really like this Pope.

109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:25:08am

My god I have such a freaking bad cold that it’s making me a terrible combination of dumb and angry. I should go hang out with Gohmert, I’m right on his level today. Ugh. Fucking sinuses.

110 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:25:59am

Cory Booker officiates same-sex marriages the minute they become legal in New Jersey

Senator-elect Cory Booker wasted no time voicing his vehement support for same-sex marriages early Monday morning, telling the crowd assembled at Newark City Hall: “It is officially past midnight. Marriage is now equal in New Jersey.”

While officiating the first couple’s ceremony, he asked whether anyone had any objections. One protester yelled that these marriages were “unlawful in the eyes of God and Jesus Christ,” and was then quickly removed.

“Not hearing any substantive objections, I will proceed with the vows,” Booker replied.

111 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:28:39am

re: #109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

My god I have such a freaking bad cold that it’s making me a terrible combination of dumb and angry. I should go hang out with Gohmert, I’m right on his level today. Ugh. Fucking sinuses.

I take Mucinex D when I get like that. Dries me right out.

112 Ian G.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:29:20am

re: #107 Kragar

Somewhere, Rick Santorum is sobbing and pounding his fists on his desk.

Francis won’t make me into a believing Catholic again because I simply can’t bring myself to believe in the Jesus story, but it would be nice if I no longer had to lump the Catholic Church in with the GOP among my political enemies. Francis seems to be moving away from the right-wing culture wars rather rapidly, and I welcome it with open arms.

113 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:30:59am

Husband Of House Stenographer Say God Spoke Through His Wife On The House Floor

On Friday, her husband Dan appeared on the End Times radio broadcast hosted by Rick Wiles where he revealed that, for the last month, Dianne had repeatedly been woken up in the middle of night by God and compelled to read the Bible, as He pressed upon her the need to speak publicly and deliver a prophetic message.

Dan revealed that his wife had no idea what it was she was supposed to say and that God simply spoke through her once she finally acquiesced to His commands to took control of the microphone:

Sounds like the husband needs a psych eval as well.

114 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:32:13am

re: #113 Kragar

Husband Of House Stenographer Say God Spoke Through His Wife On The House Floor

Sounds like the husband needs a psych eval as well.

He’s an enabler.

116 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:33:32am

re: #109 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

My god I have such a freaking bad cold that it’s making me a terrible combination of dumb and angry. I should go hang out with Gohmert, I’m right on his level today. Ugh. Fucking sinuses.

{{{ . . . . }}} ——————————> Obdicut

Hugs, but not too close.

117 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:33:40am

re: #107 Kragar

Pope Francis describes ‘ideological Christians’ as a ‘serious illness’ within the Church

Thanks saved that page to throw at my religious rightwing crazy family members that infest my FB page from time to time.

118 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:35:34am
119 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:37:18am

re: #115 darthstar

Awesome pics of a grandma and her cat.

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More here:
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She reminds me so much of the old lady who lived across the road from us in Japan when we were there in the 50s. She grew cabbages and raised pigs. We knew her only as the “cabbage lady.”
I was only 4 or 5 years old, but I remember her vividly. She didn’t speak a word of English but she was always delighted to see us children.

120 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:39:52am

Speaking of sock puppets, I just caught one going through the profile pages of old registered users.

121 klys  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:40:11am

re: #115 darthstar

Those are beautiful.

Morning, Lizards.

122 Tim TeaBro  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:41:13am

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

How a wingnut sells a Jeep on craigslist

Nothing whinier than a wingnut whining about whining liberals.

123 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:41:24am

re: #90 Political Atheist

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

When I first load LGF (before login) there are two popup windows that have to be closed.

124 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:41:48am

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles over the past 4 months.

125 piratedan  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:42:33am

re: #120 Charles Johnson

they really are some insidious bastards aren’t they? Guess there’s untold financial security in being a RW lackey…. who knew? You never see those positions advertised, must be filled via nepotism.

126 BeenHereAwhile  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:42:48am

re: #45 jaunte

It’s apparently the birthday of Úrsula Hilaria Celia de la Caridad Cruz Alfonso de la Santísima Trinidad.

Azucar!!

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:42:53am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles over the past 4 months.

NSA!!11!!

128 Tim TeaBro  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:42:54am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles over the past 4 months.

Not just searched, but loaded and looked at web pages?

That’s neurotic.

129 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:42:55am

Chamber of Commerce President: Maybe Ted Cruz Could Sit Down And Shut Up

At a breakfast meeting with reporters in Washington, sponsored by the Christian Science Monitor, Donohue responded to an initial question about Cruz and his growing influence within the Republican Party by saying the Chamber would look for ways to work with him. A reporter followed up by noting that the conventional wisdom is that the business community wants the Texas senator “to sit down and shut up.”

“Well, that might be one thing we can work on,” Donohue quipped.

“I sort of think of him as a tennis player,” he had said earlier. “If you’re going to rush the net all the time, you better have a lot of motion to the left and the right, and he hasn’t proved that to me yet.”

130 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:43:36am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles over the past 4 months.

A person or a spambot?

131 teleskiguy  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:45:02am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles in the past few days.

That is a level of sock puppetry that, to me at least, indicates serious mental illness.

132 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:46:23am

re: #130 Vicious Babushka

A person or a spambot?

It’s a person. One of the stalkers.

133 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:48:14am

This lovely person began this project back in June. Logs on in the middle of the night and loads as many user profiles as he can.

134 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:48:30am

Robertson: Liberalism Leads To Nazism

Pat Robertson said today on the 700 Club that liberal policies inevitably lead to mass deaths, arguing that modern Europe is little different from the Nazi era or the French Revolution. The televangelist was commenting on a story about a bill in Belgium’s parliament that would broaden the country’s euthanasia law to include minors, as long as they have the consent of their parents, a psychologist and two doctors.

He said that liberals have “moved away from God” and “as a result of humanity and rejecting God, you have the orgy of the French Revolution, you have the guillotine cutting off the heads of thousands of people, you have the same thing going on now in Europe, you had it under the Nazis.”

135 piratedan  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:50:31am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

sounds like they’re building their own “blacklist”…..

136 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:50:44am

re: #124 Charles Johnson

This person looked at 11,281 user profiles in the past few days.

That’s not a person, it’s a script.

137 Dr. Matt  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:50:58am

re: #133 Charles Johnson

….loads as many user profiles as he can.

“Loads”? They are downloading user comments?

138 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:52:44am

re: #136 darthstar

Could be using a script. But on the other hand, these people are incredibly obsessed.

139 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:52:51am

re: #137 Dr. Matt

“Loads”? They are download user comments?

I don’t think so, just looking at profiles (the thing that pops up when you clike one of our avatars)

140 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:54:47am

CRAZYPANTS:

141 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:55:13am

re: #136 darthstar

That’s not a person, it’s a script.

7.8 profiles per minute over 24 hours.

142 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:55:20am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Could be using a script. But on the other hand, these people are incredibly obsessed.

Realistically, what would be the point?

143 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:55:50am

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Could be using a script. But on the other hand, these people are incredibly obsessed.

7.8 profiles per minute over 24 hours…that’s some serious obsession.

144 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:56:56am

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

CRAZYPANTS:

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Obamacare is private insurance ya stupid SOB.

145 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:56:56am

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

Should we use the private insurance we get through the ACA or the other private insurance? //

146 calochortus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:57:27am

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

CRAZYPANTS:

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An amazing lack of understanding of the system.

147 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:57:43am

re: #143 darthstar

7.8 profiles per minute over 24 hours…that’s some serious obsession.

I misstated - it wasn’t just the past few days, he’s been doing it for months.

148 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:58:16am

Did liberal media call for Mitt Romney to be impeached after he introduced the Massachusetts health care plan?

149 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 10:59:08am

re: #140 Vicious Babushka

CRAZYPANTS:

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Because no private group collects your info and shares it.

150 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:00:23am

re: #113 Kragar

So G-d’s worried about the Masons? Who knew? //

151 calochortus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:00:28am

re: #149 Kragar

Because no private group collects your info and shares it.

Let me Google that…

152 Bulworth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:01:43am

re: #104 Eclectic Cyborg

Here’s another guy who could use a psych eval.

153 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:01:59am
154 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:02:42am

re: #146 calochortus

The health exchange is a new private marketplace where individuals can get insurance through private insurers. That means that the govt set this up so private insurance companies like Anthem, Aetna, Humana, or Blue Cross, can market their policies to individuals.

The insurance companies get the full amount they request for the policy. The govt subsidizes those who meet the income qualifications, giving the insurer the balance of what the policy would be worth.

Example:

Person seeks policy from Aetna. They’re quoted 400 a month. Meeting the govt income level, the government subsidizes that policy down to $100.

The individual pays $100, the government pays $300, and the insurer collects the $400.

All the federal government did was set up the new market and indicate the new minimum level policies that could be marketed nationally (which is what states had been doing all along). The individual mandate is the corollary. Make sure people sign up and take personal responsibility for their actions if they don’t.

155 calochortus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:03:51am

re: #154 lawhawk

Yep.

156 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:05:06am

re: #154 lawhawk

The health exchange is a new private marketplace where individuals can get insurance through private insurers. That means that the govt set this up so private insurance companies like Anthem, Aetna, Humana, or Blue Cross, can market their policies to individuals.

The insurance companies get the full amount they request for the policy. The govt subsidizes those who meet the income qualifications, giving the insurer the balance of what the policy would be worth.

Example:

Person seeks policy from Aetna. They’re quoted 400 a month. Meeting the govt income level, the government subsidizes that policy down to $100.

The individual pays $100, the government pays $300, and the insurer collects the $400.

All the federal government did was set up the new market and indicate the new minimum level policies that could be marketed nationally (which is what states had been doing all along). The individual mandate is the corollary. Make sure people sign up and take personal responsibility for their actions if they don’t.

That there will be just a lot of Socialist talk to the Teabaggers.

157 Ian G.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:07:03am

re: #134 Kragar

Robertson: Liberalism Leads To Nazism

Good to see ol’ Pat back to his lunatic ways after his broken-clock moment of sanity on the debt ceiling and shutdown.

You know, the entire continent isn’t ablaze with war the way it was in the days after the French Revolution, and in the days of Nazism. That’s just one teensy detail in the way Pat’s analogy misses the mark.

So maybe liberalism leads to peace. Maybe these secular-liberal policies in Europe are the reason why the French and German armies aren’t staring at each other across minefields and barbed wire like they have so many times before in history.

158 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:07:10am

Apparently Obamacare is Obama’s Iraq.

159 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:07:19am

Also, Katrina.

160 klys  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:07:20am

re: #154 lawhawk

All the federal government did was set up the new market and indicate the new minimum level policies that could be marketed nationally (which is what states had been doing all along). The individual mandate is the corollary. Make sure people sign up and take personal responsibility for their actions if they don’t.

And we all know how Republicans as a party feel about personal responsibility!

161 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:07:34am

Winning arguments as usual. //

162 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:08:48am

re: #158 Gus

Apparently Obamacare is Obama’s Iraq.

I thought Iraq was Obama’s Iraq.

163 dog philosopher  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:08:48am

i want to see the results of a poll like this

obamacare is

1) government healthcare provided by government employed doctors working at government owned hospitals

2) government run health insurance provided on the obamacare website with the aim of taking over health insurance from private companies

3) a law that requires all insurance companies to offer all of their insurance through the obamacare website and/or requires all citizens to get their insurance through the website

4) something else

164 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:08:57am
165 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:09:08am

Obamacare is like Reagan’s Iran-Contra affair. //

166 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:09:08am

re: #163 dog philosopher

i want to see the results of a poll like this

obamacare is

1) government healthcare provided by government employed doctors working at government owned hospitals

2) government run health insurance provided on the obamacare website with the aim of taking over health insurance from private companies

3) a law that requires all insurance companies to offer all of their insurance through the obamacare website and/or requires all citizens to get their insurance through the website

4) something else

5) BENGHAZI!

167 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:09:38am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought Iraq was Obama’s Iraq.

Oops, you’re right. Katrina was Obama’s faults and Obama invaded Iraq. //

168 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:09:52am

re: #134 Kragar

Robertson: Liberalism Leads To Nazism

Yes I totally remember the day the Waltons and the Kochs were arrested, their show trial which was broadcast on all networks, and then their public execution and all their assets turned over to their employees.

In my imagination.

169 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:09:56am

re: #164 Charles Johnson

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Next up, Geraldo will start drawing network diagrams in the sand.

170 dog philosopher  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:10:15am

re: #154 lawhawk

All the federal government did was set up the new market

so you’re against capitalism then ///

171 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:10:32am

wut?

Bloomberg on Monday was named the first-ever recipient of the $1 million Genesis Prize, which the award’s organizers have described as the “Jewish Nobel Prize.” Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will formally present the award to Bloomberg next May in Jerusalem.


Bloomberg wins inaugural ‘Jewish Nobel Prize’

172 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:11:00am

re: #170 dog philosopher

so you’re against capitalism then ///

Everyone knows the government can’t make jobs…

Wait just a minute!

173 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:12:28am

re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth

Realistically, what would be the point?

Like most obsessed stalker types, it’s all about getting my attention. “WE HATE YOU DADDY!”

174 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:13:21am

re: #173 Charles Johnson

Like most obsessed stalker types, it’s all about getting my attention. “WE HATE YOU DADDY!”

well, alrighty then! Just so long as there’s a logical point to it all…

//

175 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:13:51am

re: #171 Backwoods_Sleuth

wut?


Bloomberg wins inaugural ‘Jewish Nobel Prize’

The Genesis Philanthropy Group, a charity founded by Russian Jewish billionaires, set up the award earlier this year to honor “exceptional human beings” committed to the “betterment of mankind” who will inspire the next generation of Jews.

Sounds like a seekrit “Elders of Zion” thing.

I’ll have to ask my son about it, he’s up on all the Latest Seekrit Zionist Plots.

176 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:15:11am

re: #175 Vicious Babushka

Sounds like a seekrit “Elders of Zion” thing.

I’ll have to ask my son about it, he’s up on all the Latest Seekrit Zionist Plots.

See if he can get me an employment application.

177 bubba zanetti  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:15:31am

re: #164 Charles Johnson

178 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:20:40am

Meanwhile, the US Navy is about to launch the newest destroyer to the fleet, the DDG-1000, the USS Zumwalt. At $3.5b a copy, there’s only going to be three made.

It’s a radical departure for how a warship looks, and despite the major changes in looks, the big changes are under the hood. It’s loaded with new computer systems that will be able to function even as its weapons systems are fired as they are now better shielded. It also has a propulsion system that will be capable of firing railguns once those systems are fully tested.

The captain of the newly commissioned ship is sure to turn heads though.

It’s Captain James Kirk.

The Navy is reporting that the pricing for the ships is on budget, which is a relief considering all the Navy’s problems with its littoral combat ships (LCS), which had major structural problems and cost overruns.

179 Dr. Matt  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:21:29am

re: #148 Vicious Babushka

If #Obamacare had been implemented by a Republican, the liberal media would be calling for impeachment #DoubleStandard
— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) October 21, 2013

WTF does this even mean considering the right-wing media AND politicians are calling for Obama’s impeachment? #DERP

180 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:21:58am

That number is absurd. Very, very unlikely.

181 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:22:03am


[Evil laugh!]

182 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:22:24am
183 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:23:14am

WTFITS

184 Dr. Matt  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:23:46am

re: #181 Gus

[Evil laugh!]

A gold phone for which the majority of users place in a case. Bravo, sheeple.

185 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:24:12am

re: #180 Charles Johnson

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That number is absurd. Very, very unlikely.

Wingnut math.
The same as they use for estimating crowd sizes, describing how many pages are in the ACA, and how many ‘rill ‘Muricans “have spoken”!

186 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:24:22am

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

I agree that’s wrong, and I don’t want to ‘like’ it.

187 Feline Fearless Leader  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:24:30am

re: #162 Eclectic Cyborg

I thought Iraq was Obama’s Iraq.

No, Iraq is Obama’s Benghazi. ACA is Obama’s Iraq. Benghazi is Obama’s Katrina. And Katrina is Obama’s 9/11.
//

188 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:24:56am

re: #103 Kragar

Virgins are okay I guess, but I’d rather have a trained professional.

Or a talented and enthusiastic amateur.

189 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:25:08am

re: #184 Dr. Matt

A gold phone for which the majority of users place in a case. Bravo, sheeple.

Clearly this will tarnish Apple’s hallowed reputation. //

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:25:19am

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

I agree that it’s wrong.
Completely and totally wrong.
Also patently ridiculous…

191 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:27:15am

re: #188 GeneJockey

Or a talented and enthusiastic amateur.

With a spotter, for safety.

192 allegro  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:27:55am

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

I had to give my name, address, anticipated income for 2014, and whether or not I smoke. Yeah, just like Nazis, I tells ya. WRONG! I say!

193 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:29:48am

re: #191 Kragar

With a spotter, for safety.

Remember, kids, always work with Annette a net.

194 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:30:50am

re: #193 GeneJockey

Remember, kids, always work with Annette a net.

The sling is only about 3 ft off the floor, just use some cushions….

I’ve said too much.

195 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:32:31am

O/T but nice:

Late Hungarian photojournalist Paul Almásy traveled across the globe, capturing images of people from all walks of life around the world. Over the course of his career, which spanned more than 60 years, Almásy spent multiple decades documenting the intimate and quaint beauty of Paris and its people. His images are an ode to the city, bearing the photographer’s own love for Parisian culture and lifestyle.

Vintage black & white photos of Paris

196 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:32:43am

re: #180 Charles Johnson


It looks like guestimates, and one of these so-called experts did so without actually seeing what’s involved.

Up to 5 million lines of code have to be changed? That too is a sign no one knows how much needs to be fixed, but the site’s already being modified to make it easier to contact intake by phone, etc.

No one knows how large the code is for the website, at least among those who the Times actually talked to. Moreover, has anyone defined what we’re talking about in defining the affected code? And are we even defining the code for just the website, or all the insurer-side coding to take in the exchanges on the back end that have to talk with the intake side?

A whole lot of people were making hay that the NY website hasn’t actually enrolled anyone, but that ignores that the state was in the process of verifying 130,000 applications for enrollment by Friday night. That could mean several times that many people are actually getting insured (since that could be family or business plans).

One thing that seems clear. The state-run exchanges have gone much smoother than the fed site. Part of that appears to be the case because the feds had several contractors working on different parts, and the coordination was lacking.

197 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:35:06am

re: #196 lawhawk

Whoever estimated that 500 million number has a serious case of rectal-cranial inversion. There’s just no way.

198 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:35:33am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

Whoever estimated that 500 million number has a serious case of rectal-cranial inversion. There’s just no way.

Sounds like a Greenwald scoop…

199 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:35:40am

re: #196 lawhawk

One thing that seems clear. The state-run exchanges have gone much smoother than the fed site. Part of that appears to be the case because the feds had several contractors working on different parts, and the coordination was lacking.

Typical government efficiency.

200 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:35:44am

re: #175 Vicious Babushka

Not to mention he is giving the award to a man who said things about Yitzhak Rabin that may have gotten him killed.

Netanyahu is scum.

201 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:37:12am

Seriously folks. They’re rehashing the old bologna.


Again.


And again.

202 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:38:54am
203 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:38:58am

Coming up next. Was Vince Foster murdered by the Clintons and Barrack Obama’s gay lover comes forward.

//

204 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:39:00am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

OH WAYT THEIR IS MOAR RACISM!!!

[Embedded content]

This is all about institutionalizing the imaginary racism against whites of helping minorities get better health care.

205 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:39:15am

re: #201 Gus

And Norquist isn’t hitting Beck with a Libel suit because?

206 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:39:46am

re: #200 ProTARDISLiberal

Not to mention he is giving the award to a man who said things about Yitzhak Rabin that may have gotten him killed.

Netanyahu is scum.

You may not like him but he is the PM of Israel.

207 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:39:56am

re: #203 Gus

Coming up next. Was Vince Foster murdered by the Clintons and Barrack Obama’s gay lover comes forward.

//

On the next Geraldo: Tyrannical Muslim communists…and the men who love them

208 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:40:31am

re: #197 Charles Johnson

No names named. Just anonymous “specialist”.

According to one specialist, the Web site contains about 500 million lines of software code. By comparison, a large bank’s computer system is typically about one-fifth that size.

209 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:40:36am

re: #205 ProTARDISLiberal

And Norquist isn’t hitting Beck with a Libel suit because?

Probably doesn’t care. Frank Gaffney is the king of that meme.

210 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:41:30am

Barely a blip on the news.

212 Gus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:47:14am


Derp.

213 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:48:30am

San Antonio Judge Bolts GOP Over Anti-LGBT Extremism

I can no longer be a member of the Republican Party. For too long, the Republican Party has been at war with itself. Rational Republican beliefs have given way to ideological character assassinations. Pragmatism and principal have been overtaken by pettiness and bigotry. Make no mistake: I have not left the Republican Party. It left me. I cannot tolerate a political party that demeans Texans based on their sexual orientation, the color of their skin or their economic status. I will not be a member of a Party in which hate speech elevates candidates for higher office rather than disqualifying them. I cannot place my name on the ballot for a political party that is proud to destroy the lives of hundreds of thousands of federal workers over the vain attempt to repeal a law that would provide health care to millions of people throughout our country.

214 andres  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:50:04am

re: #90 Political Atheist

Yeah, but Chrome is really intrusive. When I look at task manager I see chrome multiple times in the list. WTH? (Win7 btw)

I’d say it’s normal behavior considering how Chrome works. If you kill any of the threads (as long as it’s not the main one), you just kill the webpage, and Chrome still runs. This allows them to have a webpage crap on the browser and not take the other websites the user has open.

215 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:50:16am
216 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:52:31am

re: #192 allegro

I had to give my name, address, anticipated income for 2014, and whether or not I smoke. Yeah, just like Nazis, I tells ya. WRONG! I say!

Note also that the picture is a guy who’d qualify for Medicare. This weekend, on FB a friend of mine was discussing the ACA with a Wingnut friend of hers. He said he’d gone to the exchanges and the policy he found had too high a deductible.

But looking at his picture, and his FB page, he’s retired. He’s eligible for MEDICARE, not Obamacare.

217 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:54:46am
218 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:55:53am

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Pres Obama helps woman about to faint during speech (note: transcript of speech and gif of incident).

[Embedded content]

Bizarro World reaction:

219 Tigger2  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:55:54am

re: #215 Kragar

[Embedded content]

RINO get the Torches and Pitchforks. Wingnut off, Welcome to the sane party the Democratic party.

220 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:55:58am

re: #215 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Very nice. He needs a better TelePrompter though. He kept glancing down. I wanted to say, “MY EYES ARE UP HERE!”

221 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:56:45am

re: #95 Ian G.

This is the way Pittsburgh looked a mere 60-70 years ago. Ever heard of the Donora smog?

And mind you, this is the way much of this country would look NOW if the GOP had its way and gutted the EPA and the Clean Air Act.

My Dad grew up in Pittsburgh between the World Wars. He told me about one of the Smoke Days, when he walked along a streetcar track, waving a white handkerchief behind him so his friend, in a car, could see well enough to drive.

In the middle of the day.

222 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:57:01am

re: #211 ProTARDISLiberal

This dog is trying to take my Burger King food.

Put your pants on.

223 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:57:38am

re: #218 jaunte

Bizarro World reaction:

[Embedded content]

I’m sure Steve wonders why she wasn’t in the kitchen.

224 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:58:07am

re: #217 Charles Johnson

Maybe if you include every line on every HTML page as a line of ‘code’, along with all the actual code.

Maybe.

225 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:58:28am

re: #220 wrenchwench

Very nice. He needs a better TelePrompter though. He kept glancing down. I wanted to say, “MY EYES ARE UP HERE!”

Skyping with my son while we were Back East and he was at home with the dogs gave me new understanding of what it’s like to be a woman, with men talking to your chest.
//

226 Charles Johnson  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 11:59:40am

re: #224 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Maybe if you include every line on every HTML page as a line of ‘code’, along with all the actual code.

Maybe.

Not even then. 500 million lines is an impossibly huge number. The New York Times’ “specialist” is full of shit.

227 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:00:36pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Not even then. 500 million lines is an impossibly huge number. The New York Times’ “specialist” is full of shit.

Probably said, “A gazillion lines of code” and the reporter figured that was about 500 million.

228 kirkspencer  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:01:32pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

Not even then. 500 million lines is an impossibly huge number. The New York Times’ “specialist” is full of shit.

Debian 5 has almost 325 million. Ain’t no way the ACA registration program has the same accretion and legacy issues as Debian.

229 GeneJockey  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:02:19pm

re: #201 Gus

Seriously folks. They’re rehashing the old bologna.

[Embedded content]


And again.

So, does that mean we can dispense with the Pledge that all the GOP had to sign, promising eternal fealty to Norquist?

230 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:02:24pm

re: #227 GeneJockey

Probably said, “A gazillion lines of code” and the reporter figured that was about 500 million.

“Look at all these line that say br, but they don’t show up when you look on the page. I smell a conspiracy!”

231 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:03:16pm

re: #230 Kragar

“Look at all these line that say br, but they don’t show up when you look on the page. I smell a conspiracy!”

< br > = “beer run”

232 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:04:59pm

A series of tubes and Legos.

233 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:05:03pm

re: #183 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

Birthers just gotta get their racist manure in against the ACA too.

234 BusyMonster  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:07:39pm

re: #51 prairiefire

Sam Wang at PEC makes a convincing argument, backed up by polling data, that partisan gerrymandering actually hurts the majority party incumbent when there are big voter swings.

I’ve heard this before — it’s like the Roman system. It works great right up until the moment it doesn’t and then it fails disastrously.

I think that is also because Gerrymandering distorts the primaries, ensuring ever-more-extreme candidates who suddenly become unpalatable when the public realizes they are not responding to the voters’ needs and are in fact just brazenly running an agenda.

235 ProTARDISLiberal  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:07:56pm

re: #222 b_sharp

Pic from the summer. Wearing shorts.

236 klys  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:09:02pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

< br > = “beer run”

Considering the programmers I have known…

yes.

237 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:09:14pm

re: #211 ProTARDISLiberal

This dog is trying to take my Burger King food.

Heh. My dog used to do that; she loved Burger King for some reason. Whenever I went there, I order a plain cheeseburger, no onions, ketchup, etc., and she’d tear into it when I brought it home.

238 BusyMonster  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:09:50pm

re: #217 Charles Johnson

The reporter called his nephew.

And the mainstream media wonders why they are losing credibility.

239 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:10:54pm

re: #236 klys

Considering the programmers I have known…

yes.

I remembered that joke from my old programming days…

240 Kragar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:11:11pm

Wasilla Warbler chimes in

Palin: Obamacare website glitches are a feature, not a bug, and will push U.S. into socialism

The former half-term Alaska governor and failed vice presidential candidate suggested Sunday in a Breitbart.com column that design flaws were intentionally implemented to make the system more difficult to use and drive Americans to accept a government fix.

241 Petero1818  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:12:45pm

re: #30 AntonSirius

Because clearly, the Brett Kimberlins of the world have the same authority and sterling reputation as Fox News.

That’s what you meant, right?

Because clearly there is no day light between Fox News and the Brett Kimberlins of the world.

Thats what you meant right?

242 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:14:39pm

Must be running a reporting championship of some kind.

243 b_sharp  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:15:37pm

re: #240 Kragar

Wasilla Warbler chimes in

Palin: Obamacare website glitches are a feature, not a bug, and will push U.S. into socialism

The government is going to change the law because of problems with a web site?

What is with these people? Is thinking really that difficult?

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:16:51pm

re: #240 Kragar

Wasilla Warbler chimes in

Palin: Obamacare website glitches are a feature, not a bug, and will push U.S. into socialism

Says the idiot whose husband and kids and grandkids get free healthcare from Native Health Services…

245 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:17:02pm
246 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:17:05pm

So I’ll be like all following and retweeting a rational, logical, factual progressive and then they Tweet this shit:

247 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:17:52pm

re: #246 Vicious Babushka

So I’ll be like all following and retweeting a rational, logical, factual progressive and then they Tweet this shit:

[Embedded content]

Arg.

248 b.d.  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:18:23pm

Easier task?

Cracking Glenn Greenwald’s encrypted code or fixing the ACA website?

249 jaunte  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:18:43pm

From today’s Townhall email:

With no perceptible sense of irony:

As you read this morning, I was expecting a some perfunctory contrition and token acceptance of responsibility from President Bystander during his Obamacare remarks in the Rose Garden today. I was wrong. The appearance was more of a pep rally, replete with upbeat promises and applauding supporters. Aides might as well have hung a large “mission accomplished” banner over Obama’s head.

Image: Screen_shot_2013-10-21_at_2.16.21_PM.png

250 Political Atheist  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:18:53pm

re: #226 Charles Johnson

That would be 10 times the size of XP. No freaking way.

251 dog philosopher  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:23:18pm

as far as i can make out, one of the biggest problems with the website is the bottleneck at the stage where they have collected all the information and then submit queries to a number of insurance company and government agency servers functioning effectively as db back ends

some kind of caching would be the obvious suggestion

252 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:23:49pm

re: #249 jaunte

From today’s Townhall email:

With no perceptible sense of irony:

Image: Screen_shot_2013-10-21_at_2.16.21_PM.png

Irony? How about hilarity.

Mission accomplished!

253 Petero1818  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:23:51pm

re: #240 Kragar

Wasilla Warbler chimes in

Palin: Obamacare website glitches are a feature, not a bug, and will push U.S. into socialism

This may be the first time in history that I can agree with Sarah, if not on the details, than on the principal. There is no doubt in my mind that Obama’s expectation long term, is that the ACA will eventually lead to a single payer system. That for various reasons the compromises made to pass the ACA will in the end render the program inefficient or flawed in such a way as to cause people to prefer a single payer system. While I don’t believe website glitches are likely to be the cause, nor intentional, down the road, American’s will choose something that in some way allows them to take the leap and join the rest of the civilized world in establishing health care as a right rather than a privilege.

254 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:24:55pm

re: #251 dog philosopher

as far as i can make out, one of the biggest problems with the website is the bottleneck at the stage where they have collected all the information and then submit queries to a number of insurance company and government agency servers functioning effectively as db back ends

some kind of caching would be the obvious suggestion

They is savens ur dayduh!!!!!

255 wrenchwench  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:25:04pm

re: #251 dog philosopher

as far as i can make out, one of the biggest problems with the website is the bottleneck at the stage where they have collected all the information and then submit queries to a number of insurance company and government agency servers functioning effectively as db back ends

some kind of caching would be the obvious suggestion

you libs think anything can be solved by throwing more cache at it!!!!1!11

256 Tim TeaBro  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:25:16pm
257 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:25:37pm

re: #255 wrenchwench

you libs think anything can be solved by throwing more cache at it!!!!1!11

best pun of the day!

258 darthstar  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:30:01pm

re: #180 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

That number is absurd. Very, very unlikely.

They’re counting the uncompiled lines of source code for the operating systems, network protocols, databases, etc. Remember, the ACA is 2700 PAGES (counting white space)

259 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:34:03pm

re: #113 Kragar

Husband Of House Stenographer Say God Spoke Through His Wife On The House Floor

Sounds like the husband needs a psych eval as well.

To me it sounds like they have the same strain of information disease. All the information in their brains has come from ‘evangelical’ sources. Now any new information that tries to get in is warped or rejected by their brains.

Plus, as I said the other day, you can only live in terror for so long before the mind breaks. It seems to me that many evangelicals and other ideological Christians live in terror; terror that they’ll slip up and God will damn them to Hell for eternity, terror Satan will get them somehow, terror that just being in the same plane of existence as heretics, blasphemers and pagans will soil them beyond redemption.

One day the mind can’t take it anymore. At least all she did is talk. It could have been much worse.

260 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:34:31pm

re: #257 Backwoods_Sleuth

best pun of the day!

But there’s more!

261 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:36:44pm

re: #138 Charles Johnson

Could be using a script. But on the other hand, these people are incredibly obsessed insane.

FTFY.

262 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:41:43pm

re: #176 Shiplord Kirel

See if he can get me an employment application.

I’d ask for one too, except I’m not Jewish. //

263 BeenHereAwhile  Mon, Oct 21, 2013 12:55:53pm

re: #231 Backwoods_Sleuth

< br > = “beer run”

…”all we need is a ten and five-er,
a car and key and a sober driver.
B-double E double R U-N beer run”

-Todd Snider-


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