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1 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:41:54pm

Mega-Racist

the regular racism will be enough thanks no need to supersize it

2 b.d.  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:43:55pm

HE WAS A PLANT!1!

3 klys  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:44:11pm

I just watched this in awe last night.

The pause when asked directly, the “my best friend is black” line, the lazy people wanting free stuff from the government …it was amazingly depressing.

You wanted to believe this was a caricature, except it wasn’t.

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:44:30pm

My favorite part is when Asif Mandvi says, “You know we can hear you, right?”

5 klys  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:47:10pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

My favorite part is when Asif Mandvi says, “You know we can hear you, right?”

This interview and the one where Jason Jones just couldn’t stay in character earlier this month. Better quality journalism than 95% of what’s on cable news, easily.

6 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:50:12pm

“I can’t believe we have that many stupid people in NC.”

Well, you’re a prime example, Yelton.

7 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:50:21pm

Huh, I checked my wall calender earlier and could swear it was still 2013 and not 1953.

8 thatthatisis  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:51:08pm

I guess some people take their masks off during Halloween season.

9 b.d.  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:51:53pm

I CANT BELIEVE THOSE PC RINOS IN NC WOULDNT STAND UP FOR THE TRUTH AND FORCED HIM OUT!!1!

10 kerFuFFler  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:55:29pm

He looks an awful lot like the creep from Cleveland who kept the 3 kidnapped women in his basement for a decade.

11 darthstar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:58:41pm

re: #10 kerFuFFler

He looks an awful lot like the creep from Cleveland who kept the 3 kidnapped women in his basement for a decade.

At least the Cleveland guy had the decency to masturbate himself to death (okay, he was scarfing - asphyxiating himself while he jacked off, but the end result was the same).

12 piratedan  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:58:46pm

I just have to remember that this guy is the top of the heap locally, he’s the man in the county who gets things done… and because he was stupid enough to speak without his teleprompter, his meteoric career has reached its apex… long may we enjoy his ride to the nadir.

13 darthstar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 3:59:58pm

Okay…I’m about 200 slides into a training class I’m taking (death by powerpoint). Bathroom break over. Back to the presentation.

14 b.d.  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:00:07pm

JAMES OKEEFE EXPOSED FAR MORE BLACK RACISM AND NONE OF THEM LOST THEIR JOB BECAUSE OF IT!!1!

15 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:04:48pm

Embarrassing to admit, but I was aware of nutcases like this back when I was a very active Republican. I was part of the contingent- every local GOP congregation had one- whose task it was to throw a blanket over the nuts, get them back into the attic, and hold the door shut before the media got wind of them. It was a much easier task before the net. Today it is well nigh impossible. Besides, with Obama in office most remaining GOPers see no reason to even try.

16 EmmaAnne  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:04:52pm

I actually remember the Obama-as-a-witch-doctor picture. That was this guy? And he wasn’t asked to resign then?!

17 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:08:49pm

re: #16 EmmaAnne

I actually remember the Obama-as-a-witch-doctor picture. That was this guy? And he wasn’t asked to resign then?!

He was making fun of Obama’s white half, so it’s OK.

////////////////////////////////////////did I reach NC yet?////////////////////////….

18 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:11:26pm

He’s a living parody of himself.

I wonder if he just said “fuck it” to himself and deliberately let it all hang out. If he didn’t expect to get fired for something like that, the GOP political culture IN GENERAL in North Carolina is far worse than I thought.

19 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:15:00pm

re: #16 EmmaAnne

I actually remember the Obama-as-a-witch-doctor picture. That was this guy? And he wasn’t asked to then?!

The rest of the NC Republican Party brass accepted his apology.

20 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:16:32pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

He’s a living parody of himself.

I wonder if he just said “fuck it” to himself and deliberately let it all hang out. If he didn’t expect to get fired for something like that, the GOP political culture IN GENERAL in North Carolina is far worse than I thought.

Sadly, he’ll probably get an even BETTER job with them now…

21 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:16:35pm

The only thing I find surprising about this is that he was actually asked to resign.

22 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:17:12pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

He’s a living parody of himself.

I wonder if he just said “fuck it” to himself and deliberately let it all hang out. If he didn’t expect to get fired for something like that, the GOP political culture IN GENERAL in North Carolina is far worse than I thought.

Believe me, it borders on Klan territory frequently. I live in NC.

23 Lidane  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:17:33pm

So how soon before Don Yelton gets invited to CPAC or gets his own show on Fox?

24 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:18:36pm

From this past June:

For the second time in a month, the white supremacist Council of Conservative Citizens’ (CCC) entanglement with elements of the South Carolina GOP has come to light in a deeply embarrassing moment for the Republican Party.
….snip……..
The request to Rogers to resign followed by a month the resignation of Roan Garcia-Quintana from S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley’s 2014 re-election campaign steering committee (of which Bryngelson is also a member). Garcia-Quintana quit the committee after Hatewatch revealed that he was a former board director and lifetime member of the CCC, a racist group directly descended from the old White Citizens Councils that angrily battled school desegregation in the 1950s and 1960s.
splcenter.org

South Carolina, though.

25 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:21:31pm

He’s probably so encased in his white world (with that one best friend who isn’t) that he has no idea how non-racists see him.

My North Carolina-dwelling, Obama-voting, Democrat-registered step mother and step sister were talking just before the election in 2007. They said nice things about Obama. Then they were talking about southern manners, saying that most people are really very nice. My step sister piped up, ‘Except the black people, they’ll run you over in a heart beat.’ I guess the good news there is that she didn’t use the n word.

Post-racial society!

26 blueraven  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:25:52pm

Yes, all the attention will be on this racist POS (as it should be), meanwhile the racist NC voting laws continue.

Thanks SCOTUS!

27 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:27:25pm

He shouldn’t have been ‘asked to resign’. That’s bullshit.

He should have been FIRED.

28 theheat  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:28:51pm

Why is it whenever one of these white southern pricks starts drawling about “the way it is” aka the painful truth (about brown people) liberals don’t want to hear, I always hear the voice of Foghorn Leghorn? Except it’s always more doughy, and more broken capillaries in their face from closet alcoholism.

29 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:31:17pm

He actually said “I have a black best friend.” Guy’s a walking stereotype.

30 Joanne  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:32:41pm

From downstairs (because I’m always a day late and a dollar short, apparently)…

He did this in front of the TDS audience. Had it been Fox, no harm, no foul; like minds and all. But TDS…that’s a punishable offense. These are the peeps they want to believe their bullshit.

31 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:35:53pm

re: #27 wrenchwench

He shouldn’t have been ‘asked to resign’. That’s bullshit.

He should have been FIRED.

He’s a good ol’ boy. He’ll be jes’ fine.

32 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:37:25pm


Unrelated:

33 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:40:51pm

For Real —cuteness!
Youtube Video

34 Decatur Deb  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:42:01pm

This will have an unfortunate chilling effect on asshole free expression.

35 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:42:20pm

Tell it.

Al Gore: Keystone an ‘atrocity’

“A fiery Al Gore urged President Barack Obama on Thursday to reject the Keystone XL oil pipeline, calling the controversial project an “atrocity.”

“This should be vetoed. It is an atrocity. It is a threat to our future,” the former vice president said during a Center for American Progress 10th anniversary event in Washington.

“Gore criticized the Canadian oil sands that the pipeline would carry, arguing that approval of the project would be akin to a desperate drug addict looking for fresh veins.”

Read more: politico.com

36 Balfour Rage  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:51:22pm
“Offensive, uniformed and unacceptable of any member within the Republican Party.”

Translation: “He’s right - he just forgot that we’re not supposed to say that publicly.”

37 Achilles Tang  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:52:28pm

OMG. I saw that and thought it was pretty good piece of acting. I couldn’t believe it was real. Nobody, except those on blogs could be that stupid. I wonder what his handle was/is.

38 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:55:53pm

Living in a right wing bubble. He felt comfortable talking like that on camera.

39 Balfour Rage  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 4:56:06pm

re: #37 Achilles Tang

OMG. I saw that and thought it was pretty good piece of acting. I couldn’t believe it was real. Nobody, except those on blogs could be that stupid. I wonder what his handle was/is.

Exactly. Because John Lewis was playing along I figured this guy was too. Holy shit, why I am not surprised?

40 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:03:08pm

OK, enough of ignorance in the US…

Austrian woman offers live tank shell on swap site

bigstory.ap.org

Infuckingcredibly, the seller had been using the shell as a door stop.

41 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:13:15pm

Slow metabolism ‘obesity excuse’ true

Some had mutated versions of KSR2.

It had a twin effect of increasing their appetite while their slowing metabolism.

“You would be hungry and wanting to eat a lot, you would not want to move because of a slower metabolism and would probably also develop type 2 diabetes at a young age,” lead researcher Prof Sadaf Farooqi told the BBC.

She added: “It slows the ability to burn calories and that’s important as it’s a new explanation for obesity.”

As soon as I saw the headline, I couldn’t help but be reminded of one of LGF’s sadder flounces… :-/

42 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:17:05pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Tell it.

Al Gore: Keystone an ‘atrocity’

“A fiery Al Gore urged President Barack Obama on Thursday to reject the Keystone XL oil pipeline, calling the controversial project an “atrocity.”

“This should be vetoed. It is an atrocity. It is a threat to our future,” the former vice president said during a Center for American Progress 10th anniversary event in Washington.

“Gore criticized the Canadian oil sands that the pipeline would carry, arguing that approval of the project would be akin to a desperate drug addict looking for fresh veins.”

Read more: politico.com

I realize this wasn’t your wording, but I wish people would quit talking about oil sands. They’re tar sands. TAR sands. (Rant over. Thank you for your kind attention.)

43 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:24:32pm
44 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:24:47pm
45 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:25:22pm

re: #4 Charles Johnson

My favorite part is when Asif Mandvi says, “You know we can hear you, right?”

Reminds me when he interviewed the very anti-Muslim woman in Tennessee and he’s like “You do realize I’m Muslim right?”. Love him. One of my favorites on the show. Kristin Schaal is another.

46 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:25:47pm

re: #42 calochortus

I realize this wasn’t your wording, but I wish people would quit talking about oil sands. They’re tar sands. TAR sands. (Rant over. Thank you for your kind attention.)

Over here they’re now known as oil sands. The powers that be get severely pissed if they are called tar sands.

47 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:27:16pm

re: #41 Interesting Times

Slow metabolism ‘obesity excuse’ true

As soon as I saw the headline, I couldn’t help but be reminded of one of LGF’s sadder flounces… :-/

That was a shame. On the other hand, it is a real problem if someone has a habit of twisting reality in order to justify going into Hulk Smash mode.

48 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:30:03pm

I just realized that I’ve had Safari 7 open since I installed Mavericks and haven’t seen a single one of those ultra-annoying “reload all windows” episodes. Used to happen several times a day.

That multi-threaded approach, and blocking embedded Flash objects from loading until you click, has made a huge difference in stability for this new version.

49 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:30:49pm

re: #46 b_sharp

Over here they’re now known as oil sands. The powers that be get severely pissed if they are called tar sands.

I’m just annoyed by the PR aspects of it. Back in the dark ages when I was in college they were correctly called tar stands and I’m sticking with that.

50 BongCrodny  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:33:25pm

re: #35 Justanotherhuman

Tell it.

Al Gore: Keystone an ‘atrocity’

“A fiery Al Gore urged President Barack Obama on Thursday to reject the Keystone XL oil pipeline, calling the controversial project an “atrocity.”

“This should be vetoed. It is an atrocity. It is a threat to our future,” the former vice president said during a Center for American Progress 10th anniversary event in Washington.

“Gore criticized the Canadian oil sands that the pipeline would carry, arguing that approval of the project would be akin to a desperate drug addict looking for fresh veins.”

Read more: politico.com

If we’d seen this Al Gore in 2000, we might have avoided that whole 2001-2009 train wreck.

51 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:34:32pm

re: #49 calochortus

I’m just annoyed by the PR aspects of it. Back in the dark ages when I was in college they were correctly called tar stands and I’m sticking with that.

I agree with you as do all of the progressives here who routinely call them tar sands just to piss off the conservatives, and, because it is tar.

52 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:36:07pm

re: #51 b_sharp

Maybe we can make people who call them oil sands put tar in their gas tanks and see how it that works for them?

53 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:36:48pm

Thanks Scott Walker, you fucking asshole.


Report: Scott Walker decisions drove insurance rates much higher in Wisconsin than in Minnesota

A consumer advocacy group said Wednesday that Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s rejection of federal Medicaid money and the state’s hands-off approach to rate regulation has pushed health care exchange rates up to 99 percent higher than in neighboring Minnesota.

Robert Kraig, the executive director of Citizen Action of Wisconsin, said a report he co-authored shows that “rates are much higher in Wisconsin than in Minnesota, despite having similar geographies and similar underlying medical costs.”

Kraig said Wisconsin insurance exchange premiums for a single person are an average of 79 percent to 99 percent higher than premiums in Minnesota, before tax credits are applied. He said the average Wisconsinite will pay $1,800 more annually for health care.

54 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:37:24pm

re: #52 calochortus

Maybe we can make people who call them oil sands put tar in their gas tanks and see how it that works for them?

Have them try to lubricate their engines with the ‘oil sand’ and see how well that works.

55 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:39:18pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

This is precisely why Scott Walker is a right wing rock star. RWNJs really do seem to get off on cruelty itself.

56 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:39:36pm

re: #54 GeneJockey

Another winning idea.

57 Skip Intro  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:40:32pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Thanks Scott Walker, you fucking asshole.

Report: Scott Walker decisions drove insurance rates much higher in Wisconsin than in Minnesota

When the Koch brothers own your ass, you do what they tell you, and the Koch brothers hate the idea of Obamacare, let alone the implementation of it.

Good job, Scott. You should get a nice year end bonus from your bosses for this.

58 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:42:22pm

re: #53 Amory Blaine

Thanks Scott Walker, you fucking asshole.

Report: Scott Walker decisions drove insurance rates much higher in Wisconsin than in Minnesota

He said higher Wisconsin premiums will hit middle-class Wisconsinites hardest because Affordable Care Act tax credits lessen the impact on low-income people who buy their plans on the insurance exchange.

Kraig said there are two main reasons for the disparity: Walker’s rejection of $119 million in federal dollars to expand BadgerCare, the state’s Medicaid program, which pushed about 92,000 low-income people onto the health exchange; and the state’s lack of oversight of insurance company rates.

Kraig said the low-income people entering the health care exchanges, who would have been eligible for Medicaid, tend to have more medical needs, which drives up premiums.

He’s still at 49% approval rating. Unfucking real.

59 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:42:35pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I just realized that I’ve had Safari 7 open since I installed Mavericks and haven’t seen a single one of those ultra-annoying “reload all windows” episodes. Used to happen several times a day.

That multi-threaded approach, and blocking embedded Flash objects from loading until you click, has made a huge difference in stability for this new version.

I’m hoping Chrome will follow suit on the flash thing. My recent browser crashes are all caused by flash. I want that garbage software to just go away forever.

60 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:43:19pm

re: #52 calochortus

Maybe we can make people who call them oil sands put tar in their gas tanks and see how it that works for them?

I’m reasonably sure that putting crude oil into the gas tank of a car would also be near-instant death for the vehicle. Not that this means tar = oil of course.

61 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:43:51pm


Later, lizards.

62 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:45:11pm

re: #58 Amory Blaine

He’s still at 49% approval rating. Unfucking real.

Hopefully these rate differences will stay in the news and give Walker some badly needed political damage.

63 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:46:02pm

re: #60 EPR-radar

I know. Oil≠Gasoline, but it was off the top of my head…

64 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:46:52pm

READ THIS FIRST.

65 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:50:13pm

re: #59 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m hoping Chrome will follow suit on the flash thing. My recent browser crashes are all caused by flash. I want that garbage software to just go away forever.

Flash blocking is a popular feature of browser add-ons.

You might want to look into this: chrome.google.com

I’ve been using a similar flash blocker for some time on Mac/Safari and have been happy with the results.

66 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:50:57pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

I just realized that I’ve had Safari 7 open since I installed Mavericks and haven’t seen a single one of those ultra-annoying “reload all windows” episodes. Used to happen several times a day.

That multi-threaded approach, and blocking embedded Flash objects from loading until you click, has made a huge difference in stability for this new version.

I have yet to see an upgrade for Safari for windows 7. When it’s running right, I love it. But the constant screen flicker after you open and close several windows and the unexplained reloads (that cause me to have to log back in) are getting to annoying.

67 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:52:12pm

an interesting article about healthcare.gov problems

A segment of code from the healthcare.gov website shows a command to define a two-letter code for each state plus the District of Columbia, then a note from the programmer about a potential problem with using “50” as a maximum value for the number of those two-letter codes.

and if you look at the fragment of code underneath, underneath this comment, you see two things:

- 50 is a magic number in the loop control

- the routine, getStateCodeFromState(), loops through the data array looking to match the state name, which comes in as a string, to the entry in the data array. the speed of this linear, string matching lookup is probably not critical for this routine, but on the other hand it could certainly be done more quickly, and the klunky nature of the routine does not give me a lot of confidence in the efficiency of the code in general

68 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:54:15pm

re: #66 Bubblehead II

I think the Windows version of Safari has been orphaned, unfortunately. You may need to start transitioning to Chrome, the next best alternative.

69 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:55:32pm

re: #67 dog philosopher

better:

hash to a pointer to a State object as soon as you know what the state is with a lot of information there that can then be accessed really quickly when needed

70 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 5:57:29pm

BBL

71 cinesimon  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:04:23pm

This is very odd. He refused to resign throughout much sustained criticism of his childish bigotry and atrocious behaviour since the election of president Obama.
But now the exposure includes moving images, he resigns!
Maybe he needed to look at such a large mirror to understand just what kind of person he is?

72 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:07:29pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

I think the Windows version of Safari has been orphaned, unfortunately. You may need to start transitioning to Chrome, the next best alternative.

/// Thank you “Unprintable expicitive” Apple.

73 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:21:17pm

Wait, wut?

74 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:24:25pm

re: #73 Charles Johnson

A woman w/a passion & on a mission 2 save this country from those who want 2 destroy it.

Um…

75 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:33:13pm

re: #74 jaunte

I think she hasn’t gotten the memo about me.

76 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:36:00pm

Always heartening to know that tweeting stuff is the way to achieve the mission 2 save the country.

77 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:37:49pm
A woman w/a passion & on a mission 2 save this country from those who want 2 destroy it.

LIKE OBAMA!!!!11!!!1!!!!]

78 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:39:38pm
79 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:42:39pm

I don’t understand her Todd Akin reference. One of the 2012 class of Republicans shooting themselves in the foot.

80 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:43:10pm

So this gun nut is saying I am full of shit.

81 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:43:53pm

And his proof: CHICAGO IS FULL OF GUNZ!!!11!!!!!!

82 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:45:23pm
83 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:49:24pm
84 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:51:58pm
85 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:53:29pm

Is it wrong to want to meet the black guy who is best friends with him? That must be an interesting dude.

86 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:53:37pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Reminds me of the AT&T adds from ‘93:

Youtube Video

Amazingly the only thing they didn’t seem to foresee was the rise of cellphones and the disappearance of phone booths.

87 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:53:43pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

$5/hr billed in minute increments!

88 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:54:14pm

re: #85 Petero1818

Is it wrong to want to meet the black guy who is best friends with him? That must be an interesting dude.

It’s either Allen West or Ben Carson.

89 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:54:19pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

White, book-shaped totems on the decorative shelf.

90 Stanley Sea  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:57:02pm

re: #83 jaunte

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burn!

91 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:57:30pm

Compuserve was 13 years old by then (1969) Lots of PDP-10’s running the back end by then (200 I want to say. Biggest user of 36 bit hardware in the world.).

92 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:59:31pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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they had no clue how boring it would all be

93 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 6:59:36pm

I had a Compuserve account 20 years ago. Also one of those brick phones.

94 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:00:39pm

Why are they in white jumpsuits with white furniture and white accessories? Did they think colors would become extinct?

95 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:05:22pm

re: #94 Vicious Babushka

Why are they in white jumpsuits with white furniture and white accessories? Did they think colors would become extinct?

in the future, white people will be even whiter

96 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:07:24pm

re: #88 Vicious Babushka

It’s either Allen West or Ben Carson.

Turns out it is this guy, NC GOP Vice Chariman Timothy Johnson who is a felon (assault of his wife) and refers to himself as Dr., but apparently got his Phd from a now defunct diploma mill that advertised on matchbooks.
indyweek.com

97 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:12:11pm

re: #84 Charles Johnson

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Well if you dig far enough back, the pic you will find of my “man cave” isn’t so clean or white. But the Natural Ice is still there.

Night Lizards.

And as always, May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you.

98 missliberties  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:18:56pm

I am half surprised the guy got fired, all things considered.

99 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:20:30pm

I noted that Yelton lumped African-Americans and Asif Mandvi into the “black” category, just before he mentioned he has a black friend.

100 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:23:46pm

re: #96 Petero1818

Turns out it is this guy, NC GOP Vice Chariman Timothy Johnson who is a felon (assault of his wife) and refers to himself as Dr., but apparently got his Phd from a now defunct diploma mill that advertised on matchbooks.
indyweek.com

It actually gets better. Not only did he assault his wife, but later during his campaign falsified an endorsement from her which he published.
mountainx.com

Its apparently just the “lazy ” black folks he has a problem with. The black folks who are felons and lying sacks of shit, he is good with

101 calochortus  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:27:08pm

re: #94 Vicious Babushka

Why are they in white jumpsuits with white furniture and white accessories? Did they think colors would become extinct?

The Future-it’s just like heaven…

102 darthstar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:28:25pm
103 darthstar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:30:19pm
104 Petero1818  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:31:26pm

re: #103 darthstar

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We dont need a hearing. Its obvious that Obama bungled the website to distract us from the anniversary of Benghazi.///

105 Witches BaBOOshka  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:33:58pm

re: #102 darthstar

LOL!!!
Image: 1380713_744340348924728_2005021722_n.jpg

That made me LOL.

106 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:46:08pm

lolwut?

107 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:48:33pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

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She seems to be 4 years behind the times…should we warn her that she is REALLY not going to like the ending of Lost?

108 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:51:10pm

re: #107 bratwurst

She seems to be 4 years behind the times…should we warn her that she is REALLY not going to like the ending of Lost?

Four years behind the times and lost in an alternate universe - I never had anything to do with that crazy website.

109 Kragar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:52:36pm

Working against Conservatism?

HOW DARE YOU SIR?
/

110 bratwurst  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:53:50pm

re: #108 Charles Johnson

Four years behind the times and lost in an alternate universe - I never had anything to do with that crazy website.

Oh, ok…I misread it as referring to Pajamas Media.

111 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:55:03pm

re: #109 Kragar

“Working 2 undermine conservtism/insanity & 2 save country.”

112 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:55:37pm

re: #102 darthstar

LOL!!!
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satin is real!!

113 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:58:14pm

re: #106 Charles Johnson

lolwut?

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Apparently she’s mistaken you for your Mirror Universe counterpart. Did you grow a goatee recently?

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114 Kragar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 7:59:22pm
115 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:01:03pm
116 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:01:56pm

re: #114 Kragar

Lets see them break this code!

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In an obscure movie moment, that immediately made me think of Stay Tuned.

117 Joanne  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:04:48pm

re: #112 dog philosopher

satin is real!!

And it’s soooooo soft!

118 ausador  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:06:50pm

So my Aunt has a friend whose son has decided to open a “Bagel-Deli” and she talked me into taking a look at the plans. The father would be the one putting up almost all the money with a 20 year re-payment schedule (he will most likely be deceased before another 5 years passes so full repayment is kind of a moot point to him, except as part of the inheritance of his other offspring).

I looked at the location, I looked at the plans, and I looked at all the bids from the contractors, then I talked to the son. The immediate and inescapable conclusion of my research is that the son is completely out of his friggin mind.

He wants to spend almost $1.7 million to retrofit a 3700 sq. foot strip mall space that was last occupied by a failed KFC franchise. He would only have a 10 year lease on the space and the building owner is not willing to contribute so much as a single cent to any of the renovation work.

The plan of course is to completely gut the entire interior including cutting/breaking up a considerable amount of the slab to run new plumbing and electrical to various points. Three separate new AC and Heat systems, two kitchen ventilation systems, a new roof demanded by the building owner to boot because of all the new penetrations. A new exterior underground grease trap, new public and employee restroom locations, etc, etc.

The part that isn’t “of course” is the design that is proposed for the remodel, the designer definitely has caviar tastes. I’m simply shocked by the profligate waste of money for what is intended as a bagel shop/deli. There are three different levels to the dining floor and to match it there are three different heights to the ceiling. Custom made etched panel curved handrails separate the different levels and also line the path from the front doors to the first order counter. The lighting is all low voltage cable suspended customized curved track lighting, custom metal cut-outs line the walls, etc, etc, etc…

In my mind I have taken to calling it “spaceship bagel” rather than the actual name proposed for the space. Ok, I could see it if it was in a much more upscale area, had better location exposure and if you already had a successful working model for the restaurant. But as a venture start-up? No effing way.

Saturday my Aunt and I are supposed to sit down with the father and discuss what I think of the plans viability, this ought to be interesting. Not sure how to tell him that his son is crazy without making it sound as though I am calling his son crazy if you know what I mean. I guess I am going to have to finesse it a bit, unfortunately I am just not particularly good at doing that. :(

119 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:09:47pm

re: #118 ausador

Your aunt could probably get some restaurant professionals to evaluate the plan for a lot less than the son stands to lose.

120 ausador  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:11:10pm

re: #119 jaunte

Your aunt could probably get some restaurant professionals to evaluate the plan for a lot less than the son stands to lose.

They would laugh him out the door, why do you think he went to his dad for the money rather than a bank or finance company?

121 prairiefire  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:11:20pm

re: #118 ausador

Incredibly grandiose, won’t make back 1/4 of the investment. He needs a much smaller space. Wow.

123 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:12:19pm

re: #118 ausador

The bitterest truth is better than the sweetest lie. Better to just lay it all out and make it clear how crazy you think his idea is. If they still go forward with it, at least you’ve lifted off your shoulders any guilt over not being brutally honest with them.

124 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:15:04pm

That the building owner is not willing to contribute at all towards renovation in order to get a tenant should be a major warning sign. And since it sounds like the owner has seen the plans he might just be sitting back to see how much *his* building can get improved for free.

125 Amory Blaine  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:15:12pm

re: #118 ausador

Have to sell a lot of bagels.

126 jaunte  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:15:53pm

re: #120 ausador

Maybe get the family together for a marathon Restaurant Impossible / Bar Rescue viewing session.

127 Kragar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:17:41pm

re: #116 Targetpractice

In an obscure movie moment, that immediately made me think of Stay Tuned.

I knew at least one other person had seen that movie.

128 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:18:58pm

re: #114 Kragar

Lets see them break this code!

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a cross sticks is eeeeeebil!

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:23:50pm

re: #118 ausador

Avoid finessing it. If the plans are as bad as you say, and I do believe they are, then you must tell them that. It’s a real hellish place to be caught in but when your being asked to give an opinion about what is, for these people, very serious money you have no choice but honesty.

They may well not believe you. Worst case is that they disbelieve you, go ahead, fail badly and blame you for the failure. But you have to tell them what they don’t want to hear anyway.

The only thing I’d suggest is that if you can give them a serious alternative (point to a location in a more upscale location forex) then do so,. Otherwise, consider your duty to be trying your best to keep them from making a drastic mistake even if that means making Cassandra your best friend…

130 EPR-radar  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 8:38:14pm

re: #118 ausador

A 1.7 million capital expense for this kind of operation seems crazy on its face. There is most likely no way to even make that back in 10 years operation, let alone make a profit.

One interesting calculation to do is to work out how many months rent the $1.7 million would cover. That might get some healthy skepticism going.

Another pointed question to ask is projected monthly revenues and profits.

131 wheat-dogghazi  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 9:05:28pm

re: #118 ausador

“A failed KFC franchise” is a red flag right there. Unless the area was already saturated with fast food chicken places, or the franchisee was a complete idiot, it’s hard to lose money with a KFC in a strip mall. This alone suggests the location is not the best for an upscale bagel-deli. The restaurant would have to be really special to draw enough customers to keep it afloat.

Starting with $1.7M in the hole is also not so wise from a business standpoint. He’s not selling high end goods, and it will take forever to pay down that debt.

He needs a smaller place to start with, no bigger than your typical Subway outlet. Ditch the fancy shmancy remodeling and choose something less expensive and easier to maintain.

Also, what can he offer than other places like Schlotzke’s or Subway can’t?

132 ausador  Thu, Oct 24, 2013 9:12:06pm

re: #130 EPR-radar

A 1.7 million capital expense for this kind of operation seems crazy on its face. There is most likely no way to even make that back in 10 years operation, let alone make a profit.

One interesting calculation to do is to work out how many months rent the $1.7 million would cover. That might get some healthy skepticism going.

Another pointed question to ask is projected monthly revenues and profits.

The son told me that because he was buying a $214,000 12 rack rotisserie bagel oven the size of a very small bedroom he would have the capacity to make bulk sales locally. When I asked if he had actually approached any local buyers yet he insisted that it would be necessary to have the equipment first in order to create samples before he could attempt to sell the product. When I asked if he had any cost of sales projections and at what price point his bulk bagels would sell for he didn’t have any numbers.

He did mention something vague about possibly supplying the local school district with bagels for the breakfast program (possibly he has an insider there?). The problem with that idea is that the school district only pays $1.30 per dozen from its current supplier (I checked).

As Amory Blaine kinda said above, at less than 11 cents each in bulk that is one hell of a lot of bagels to repay $1.7 million.


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