French Newspaper LeMonde Admits Getting NSA Story Wrong, Greenwald Still Digging

Don’t expect a correction from Greenwald
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French newspaper LeMonde is reporting today that NSA officials were not lying when they said the recent stories about NSA data collection in France and Spain were “completely false:” Surveillance: DGSE transmitted the data to the American NSA (Google Translate).

According to our information, collected from a senior official of the intelligence community in France, the direction of the French foreign service, the DGSE, has, in fact, established in from late 2011 and early 2012, a Memorandum of data exchange with the United States.

France has a strategic position for transportation of electronic data. The submarine cables by which most data from transit Africa and Afghanistan landed at Marseilles and Penmarc in Britain . These strategic areas are within the reach of the French DGSE, which intercepts and stores much of what flows between France and abroad.

[…]

So it seems, a priori, partly true, that some of the data transmitted over the telephone French soil is transmitted in accordance with cooperation agreements, and without sorting, the DGSE to the NSA. It is therefore data concerning French citizens receiving these communications as foreign geographic areas using these channels as well.

That’s right — this is confirmation that the axis of Greenwald totally screwed up this story and jumped to a conclusion that was exactly opposite of the truth. (And it’s very noticeable that LeMonde doesn’t actually apologize for getting this so very wrong.)

Should we start a countdown for Glenn Greenwald to retract his now-debunked story? I’m kidding, of course. He hasn’t corrected any of the other egregious errors he’s made since he started reporting the NSA leaks; why would he start now?

The Mighty Greenwald was last seen digging in and defending his story by insinuating that the NSA was lying:

Of course, it would be pretty dumb for the NSA to lie about something like this, when it could easily be denied by France or Spain. But Greenwald’s obviously counting on his audience not thinking it through.

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338 comments
1 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:32:15am
2 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:32:53am

The NSA got to LeMonde!!!

3 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:34:52am

This story is objectively false. Only the United States has an intelligence agency. Confirmed. Fact.

4 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:34:59am

Plenty of time for mocking Greenwald, but first…Where’s Waldo?

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(Vikings cheerleaders)

5 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:36:48am

re: #4 darthstar

Plenty of time for mocking Greenwald, but first…Where’s Waldo?

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(Vikings cheerleaders)

Homina homina homina…

6 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:37:23am
7 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:41:56am

re: #4 darthstar

Plenty of time for mocking Greenwald, but first…Where’s Waldo?

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(Vikings cheerleaders)

I think I see dopefish.

8 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:42:12am
9 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:42:19am
10 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:42:47am

Flashed!

11 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:43:04am

I think there’s an echo in here… in here … here ….

12 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:43:21am

re: #8 Charles Johnson

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What! I thought only America spied!

13 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:45:04am

I made the mistake of responding to a wingnut who is using East Germany as an example of “what happens when people vote for Communists!”

14 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:45:44am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I think there’s an echo in here… in here … here ….

“Concentrate… concentrate… I’ve got to concentrate… concentrate… concentrate… Hello?… hello… hello… Echo… echo… echo… Pinch hitting for Pedro Borbon… Manny Mota… Mota… Mota…”

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15 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:46:11am

re: #13 Witches BaBOOshka

I made the mistake of responding to a wingnut who is using East Germany as an example of “what happens when people vote for Communists!”

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History always lost on the wingnut mind.

16 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:47:22am
17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:49:01am

re: #16 jaunte

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Hahaha I was comparing the two downstairs no joke.

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:51:21am

re: #15 HappyWarrior

History always lost on the wingnut mind.

West Germany also did not get to choose a more capitalistic society, it was forced on them by the U.S. occupation. It just happened to work out well for them. Also too: the Japanese.

Eventually Jingo will look at my profile and say AHA! DETROIT! because wingnuts have this belief that there are no nice neighborhoods or good jobs anywhere in or around Detroit.

19 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:52:34am

re: #18 Witches BaBOOshka

West Germany also did not get to choose a more capitalistic society, it was forced on them by the U.S. occupation. It just happened to work out well for them. Also too: the Japanese.

Eventually Jingo will look at my profile and say AHA! DETROIT! because wingnuts have this belief that there are no nice neighborhoods or good jobs anywhere in or around Detroit.

Yeah, they’er idiots.

20 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:53:20am

I just can’t even.

21 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:53:46am

PBO tasking overseas diplomats to start recruiting companies to invest here in the U.S. Sounds like the White House is doing more to creat jobs than our do nothing Congress.

Select USA

Also just slammed House for shutting down the Government.

22 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:53:49am

re: #9 jaunte

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[dudebro] OMG THIS IS BIGGER THAN WE THOUGHT, NOW THE NSA EVEN HAS THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE DONG THEIR DIRTY WORK FOR THEM!!1! [/dudebro}

23 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:54:31am

re: #20 Witches BaBOOshka

Sounds like you’re having two different conversations together.

24 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:55:10am

re: #20 Witches BaBOOshka

I just can’t even.

What part of EAST GERMANY STILL HAS NOT RECOVERED do you NOT SEE???

Not even after 25 years of the magical free hand of capitalism? Does that not sort of suggest that the magical free hand of capitalism may not be universal panacea?

25 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:55:41am

Report: Snowden Lands Tech Support Job at Russian Website

And in 6 months, Greenwald has a new exclusive and the NSA brings agent Snowden home.
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26 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:56:00am

re: #24 erik_t

Not even after 25 years of the magical free hand of capitalism? Does that not sort of suggest that the magical free hand of capitalism may not be universal panacea?

HURR HURR THEY’RE STILL COMMUNISTS AT HEART!!!!11!11!!11

27 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:56:08am

re: #13 Witches BaBOOshka

I made the mistake of responding to a wingnut who is using East Germany as an example of “what happens when people vote for Communists!”

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Mongolia peacefully became communist without being under duress, I think they are the only name on that list.

28 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:56:33am

Boy, for someone who hates America and Capitalism, PBO sure is speaking glowingly about it.

29 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:56:49am

Just found out one of my co-workers was named after this song…how fucking cool is that?

Youtube Video

30 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:57:24am

re: #25 Kragar

Report: Snowden Lands Tech Support Job at Russian Website

And in 6 months, Greenwald has a new exclusive and the NSA brings agent Snowden home.
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I would think that five months would be more appropriate, wouldn’t it?
:)

31 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:58:09am

re: #20 Witches BaBOOshka

I just can’t even.

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East Germany is so bad off, they can’t even put themselves on maps anymore.

32 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:58:17am
the axis of Greenwald totally screwed up this story and jumped to a conclusion that was exactly opposite of the truth

I do hope Omidyar is having some serious second thoughts.

33 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:58:55am

re: #20 Witches BaBOOshka

I just can’t even.

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East Germany hasn’t recovered, but they think Russia a veritable powerhouse of an economy who’s there to show America how it’s done, all under the truly masterful lead of Saint Vlad.

34 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:58:57am
35 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:59:00am

Greenwald says: On NSA Claims About Misreporting of Two Slides.

It’s certainly possible that, like all journalists, we’ll make a mistake at some point. And if and when that does happen, we’ll do what good journalists do: do further reporting and, if necessary, correct any inaccuracy. But no evidence of any kind (as opposed to unverified NSA accusations) has been presented that this was the case here, and ample evidence strongly suggests it was not.

His “evidence” is complete nonsense, but it shows how he got it wrong. He reads things into the words that aren’t there.

36 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:59:36am

re: #34 Lidane

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If I headdesk any harder, my desk is gonna be at serious risk of structural failure.

37 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 10:59:48am

Charles Johnson,

So when if ever, will Greenwald admit he was wrong?

38 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:00:52am

re: #33 Targetpractice

East Germany hasn’t recovered, but they think Russia a veritable powerhouse of an economy who’s there to show America how it’s done, all under the truly masterful lead of Saint Vlad.

How great can the Russian economy be if it takes someone as talented as Edward Snowden 6 months to find a job there?

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39 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:00:56am

The arrogance of this guy. “It’s certainly possible that, like all journalists, we’ll make a mistake … at some point!?”

40 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:01:29am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Greenwald says: On NSA Claims About Misreporting of Two Slides.

His “evidence” is complete nonsense, but it shows how he got it wrong. He reads things into the words that aren’t there.

I had the opportunity to “debate” 2 Greenwald minions last night.

I’ve spoken to more coherent junkies.

41 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:01:56am

Once, I doubted myself, but soon I reconsidered that mistake.

42 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:01:57am

re: #18 Witches BaBOOshka

Eventually Jingo will look at my profile and say AHA! DETROIT! because wingnuts have this belief that there are no nice neighborhoods or good jobs anywhere in or around Detroit.

I keep seeing the hurr durr it’s Halloween will Detroit burn down what’s left of their empty city? fail online. It’s ridiculous.

43 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:04:19am

Jesus Henry Ford Christ.

44 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:05:56am

re: #43 Witches BaBOOshka

Jesus Henry Ford Christ.

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More projection than an IMAX theater.

45 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:06:13am

re: #43 Witches BaBOOshka

Jesus Henry Ford Christ.

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Guy must be taking lessons from the ones I was dealing with last night.

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:07:13am

Remember VB, capitalism cannot fail, it can only be failed. If East Germany has not recovered, it is not because capitalism has failed, it’s because outside forces have been too successful at hampering capitalism’s eventual triumph.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:07:33am

re: #43 Witches BaBOOshka

Jesus Henry Ford Christ.

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So, he’s already disagreeing with his own previous tweet.
He should just argue with himself…

48 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:08:21am

I want to just block this asshat but it’s so easy.

49 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:08:57am

re: #37 CriticalDragon1177

unlikely as it would invoke paradox as “he who can never be wrong” would be admitting a mistake and thusly the universe would fold in upon itself and disappear and emit a faint farting sound upon it’s implosion.

50 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:09:47am

Larry Taunton At FRC: US Must Choose Between Christianity And Tyranny - See more at: rightwingwatch.org

Tyranny, no contest.
/

51 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:10:30am

Wow…just wow. Maria Joao Pires gets ready to play a concerto only to have the conductor start a different concerto than she prepared for in a different key…a minute of panic and then she just recovers and plays the new concerto from memory.

Youtube Video

52 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:11:12am

re: #51 darthstar

That was amazing.

53 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:12:01am

re: #43 Witches BaBOOshka

Jesus Henry Ford Christ.

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Send him this link.

German reunification

Maybe he will come to the understanding that East Germany no longer exists.

Doubtfull, but you never know.

54 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:12:02am

Reid: Cruz 2016 ‘Would Be End Of The Republican Party’

Please proceed.

55 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:12:43am

Whatevs, dude.

56 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:12:47am
57 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:13:46am

Pumpkin carving inspired by famous art

I’m fond of Munch’s “The Scream”, but the van Gogh “Starry Night” one is a close second.

58 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:14:13am

re: #55 Witches BaBOOshka

Whatevs, dude.

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ALINKSY!

59 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:14:49am

Hey Pierre Omidyar, are these the journalistic standards you wish to hang your hat upon?

60 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:15:56am

re: #54 Kragar

Reid: Cruz 2016 ‘Would Be End Of The Republican Party’

Please proceed.

Harry Reid doesn’t pull his punches.

61 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:15:57am

re: #54 Kragar

Reid: Cruz 2016 ‘Would Be End Of The Republican Party’

Please proceed.

Cruz as the GOTP nominee would be a laugh riot. A Cuban-Canadian trying to preach closing off the border, ending affordable health care, and pushing social conservatism on “moral” grounds.

62 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:17:35am

re: #61 Targetpractice

Cruz as the GOTP nominee would be a laugh riot. A Cuban-Canadian trying to preach closing off the border, ending affordable health care, and pushing social conservatism on “moral” grounds.

The cherry on top would be if he picked the Wassila Warbler as his running mate.

63 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:17:41am

re: #53 Bubblehead II

RWNJs still talk about the Soviet Union. German reunification is a bit beyond them.

64 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:18:04am
France has a strategic position for transportation of electronic data. The submarine cables by which most data from transit Africa and Afghanistan landed at Marseilles and Penmarc in Britain (shouldn’t this be Brittany, and not Britain - as in the UK?). These strategic areas are within the reach of the French DGSE, which intercepts and stores much of what flows between France and abroad.

So, they’re “tapping” the undersea cables and storing the data that flows through them - including potentially data that is transmitted to and from the US to Africa and Afghanistan.

In other words, the French DGSE are doing the same thing that everyone else thinks the NSA is doing. The DGSE is vacuuming up all data coming through the cables that come ashore and they’re not only intercepting, but storing it all.

Further, the DGSE is sharing their findings (because that information might help avert attacks against France and its allies - which has repeatedly come in the line of fire from terror groups based in Algeria and North Africa generally). The NSA might get a look at some of the data, and there’s probably reciprocity involved as well.

But Greenwald thinks that everything is NSA? That’s a mighty large leap in conclusions. Not surprising, but that’s Greenwald for you.

65 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:18:09am

Greenwald is the star of that exclusive publishing platform - Twitter.

66 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:18:11am
67 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:18:34am

re: #63 Lidane

RWNJs still talk about the Soviet Union. German reunification is a bit beyond them.

Also: Everyone who responds to their idiocy is a Commie.

Hiding under RWNJ’s beds since 1917. BOO!

68 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:18:59am

Never bite the hand that protects you.

69 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:19:12am

re: #65 darthstar

Greenwald is the star of that exclusive publishing platform - Twitter.

What better medium than one where people don’t have enough space to explain exactly how full of shit he is?

70 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:19:19am

re: #66 Kragar

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Awesome!

71 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:20:00am

re: #62 Kragar

The cherry on top would be if he picked the Wassila Warbler as his running mate.

I still prefer Charlie’s nickname for her, Princess Dumbass of the North Woods.

72 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:20:07am

re: #65 darthstar

Greenwald is the star of that exclusive publishing platform - Twitter.

So many people to block, so little time to do it in.

73 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:21:43am

Benghazi. More addictive than heroin…

74 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:22:42am

re: #71 Targetpractice

I still prefer Charlie’s nickname for her, Princess Dumbass of the North Woods.

I don’t think Caribou Barbie can be topped.

75 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:22:48am
76 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:23:06am
77 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:23:53am

re: #74 erik_t

I don’t think Caribou Barbie can be topped.

I’ve always been partial to Sarah Barracougar (my own name for her)

78 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:24:43am

re: #77 darthstar

I’ve always been partial to Sarah Barracougar (my own name for her)

Caribou Barbie is my favorite, but I switch it up now and then.

79 GunstarGreen  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:25:55am

re: #71 Targetpractice

I still prefer Charlie’s nickname for her, Princess Dumbass of the North Woods.

Ex-Half Governor Moosehead.

80 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:26:16am

re: #78 Kragar

Caribou Barbie is my favorite, but I switch it up now and then.

I think Snowflake Snooki is kinda inspired too tbh

81 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:27:11am

re: #73 darthstar

Benghazi. More addictive than heroin…

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Well of course they did. Everything he was saying shoots down their meme that he’e the worst President evah

82 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:27:23am

re: #74 erik_t

I don’t think Caribou Barbie can be topped.

Image: caribou-barbie-doll.jpg

83 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:28:26am
84 GunstarGreen  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:28:30am

re: #61 Targetpractice

Cruz as the GOTP nominee would be a laugh riot. A Cuban-Canadian trying to preach closing off the border, ending affordable health care, and pushing social conservatism on “moral” grounds.

In other words, business as usual in the GOP. A bunch of European invaders’ children preaching about ‘natural born citizens’ and ‘protecting the border’. I’d like to see them asked to present proof of their Native American tribe heritage before they’re allowed to say a single fucking thing about immigration, but we don’t live in a just world.

85 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:29:39am

re: #55 Witches BaBOOshka

ALINSKY!!!!!!

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86 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:30:25am

re: #85 Bulworth

ALINSKY!!!!!!

//

RWNJ’s know more about Alinsky than any liberal ever.

87 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:31:02am

re: #82 Lidane

Image: caribou-barbie-doll.jpg

Have to agree with you there. When you call her Caribou Barbie, everyone knows who you are talking about. Princess Dumbass generally gets you a blank look.

88 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:32:27am

re: #84 GunstarGreen

Any discussion of Native American tribal heritage is a communist/Alinsky tactic.

89 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:32:45am

re: #87 Bubblehead II

Have to agree with you there. When you call her Caribou Barbie, everyone knows who you are talking about. Princess Dumbass generally gets you a blank look.

Bible Spice relies on the audience being a certain age nowadays.

90 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:35:01am

re: #55 Witches BaBOOshka

Whatevs, dude.

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Like all wingnuts, his major skill is goalpost moving.

Ha! I win! You didn’t cross the line that I set.

91 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:35:45am

Commenter on TPM just pointed out a very great defense to the whole “rate spike” charge by ACA critics, namely that the law has protection from that shit built in. If people do indeed sign up for plans in ‘14 that are more expensive but 80% of the money paid doesn’t go to claims next year, then they get a nice fat check from the insurance company in ‘15 for having overpaid.

In other words those people bitching that they don’t need everything that comes with a basic plan because they won’t use it will be happy in ‘15 when they get a check for all the services they didn’t use.

92 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:35:57am

re: #62 Kragar

The cherry on top would be if he picked the Wassila Warbler as his running mate.

Better (worse?) still? GOHMERT!!!

93 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:40:14am

re: #92 Romantic Heretic

Better (worse?) still? GOHMERT!!!

Now that would be wildly entertaining.

94 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:47:10am

The perfect Halloween song:

Youtube Video

95 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:47:23am

re: #89 Kragar

Bible Spice relies on the audience being a certain age nowadays.

Had to Google that one.

Youtube Video

Start at the 9:48 mark or so.

96 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:49:58am

re: #91 Targetpractice

Commenter on TPM just pointed out a very great defense to the whole “rate spike” charge by ACA critics, namely that the law has protection from that shit built in. If people do indeed sign up for plans in ‘14 that are more expensive but 80% of the money paid doesn’t go to claims next year, then they get a nice fat check from the insurance company in ‘15 for having overpaid.

In other words those people bitching that they don’t need everything that comes with a basic plan because they won’t use it will be happy in ‘15 when they get a check for all the services they didn’t use.

And it also ignores that people are comparing apples to zombies. ACA policies are far more comprehensive than some of the policies being offered up as proof of rate spikes, ignoring that the person would further be eligible for subsidies that bring the cost down significantly.

Same deal with stories that supposedly cause massive hikes in insurance costs to college students. That ignores that the policies previously offered were not worth the money they charged, and that these college students could either now get included in their parents’ comprehensive policies, or they could get their own policies that are more comprehensive and be eligible for subsidies that reflect the fact that they’re not making a whole lot of money (that they’re college students after all).

97 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:52:41am
98 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:55:59am

Rebranding!

99 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:56:45am

re: #98 Lidane

Rebranding!

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Profiles in Courage!

100 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 11:59:01am

re: #98 Lidane

Rebranding!

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WOW…

..this IS 2013 right?

right?

101 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:01:30pm

re: #96 lawhawk

‘apples to zombies’ - awesomesauce

102 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:02:19pm

Bryan Fischer: demon inhabiting a human body. QED.

103 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:03:38pm

Jesus was a demon?

I don’t get it.

104 ausador  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:07:18pm

re: #102 Witches BaBOOshka

Bryan Fischer: demon inhabiting a human body. QED.

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Pigs bodies too… :p

105 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:07:45pm

re: #103 erik_t

Jesus was a demon?

I don’t get it.

He was one of the good demons…you know, the ones not crushed by a flying house…

106 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:07:59pm

re: #104 ausador

Pigs bodies too… :p

And fig trees…

107 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:09:35pm

re: #100 Eclectic Cyborg

WOW…

..this IS 2013 right?

right?

Up here it is.

Just sayin’

108 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:10:02pm

re: #102 Witches BaBOOshka

Wait, what? So does that mean that Jesus wasn’t human, but rather posesssed a human’s body? That would fly against all of Christian theology, since Jesus is presented as both divine AND human.

109 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:10:51pm

re: #103 erik_t

Jesus was a demon?

I don’t get it.

I think he was saying Jesus believed demons could inhabit bodies.

It’s been proven on Supernatural many times.

110 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:11:24pm

re: #102 Witches BaBOOshka

So…
Jesus possessed people???
Ok….

111 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:11:30pm

re: #108 Lidane

Wait, what? So does that mean that Jesus wasn’t human, but rather posesssed a human’s body? That would fly against all of Christian theology, since Jesus is presented as both divine AND human.

I think Bryan is saying he believe in demonic possession because Jesus believed in it and exorcised a bunch of people.

112 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:11:39pm

re: #108 Lidane

Wait, what? So does that mean that Jesus wasn’t human, but rather posesssed a human’s body? That would fly against all of Christian theology, since Jesus is presented as both divine AND human.

You be readin’ it wrong.

I speak fluid wingnut.

113 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:12:12pm

re: #111 Witches BaBOOshka

I think Bryan is saying he believe in demonic possession because Jesus believed in it and exorcised a bunch of people.

You don’t say.

114 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:12:43pm

His sentence structure sucks.

115 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:12:47pm

WINGNUT TOTALLY GETS IT WRONG.
“Journalist” would be holding up a sign saying “I AM GOD”

116 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:12:53pm

re: #111 Witches BaBOOshka

I think Bryan is saying he believe in demonic possession because Jesus believed in it and exorcised a bunch of people.

If you get any updings for this, they’re mine. I got there first.

117 b_sharp  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:13:09pm

re: #114 Varek Raith

His sentence structure sucks.

It matches his mind.

118 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:13:20pm

Well considering there’s debate whether Christ as we know him actually existed. I will take issue, thanks Bry. Why don’t you talk to all the people who were supposedly possessed but ended up being epiletic and had their lives ruined because of fanatics like you who like living in a dark age mentality.

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:13:27pm

re: #111 Witches BaBOOshka

I think Bryan is saying he believe in demonic possession because Jesus believed in it and exorcised exercised a bunch of people.

And thus Pilates became a judge, or something….

120 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:13:56pm

re: #115 Witches BaBOOshka

WINGNUT TOTALLY GETS IT WRONG.
“Journalist” would be holding up a sign saying “I AM GOD”

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As opposed to Ted Cruz’s father who actually thinks his son should be annotated just cuz.

122 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:16:03pm

re: #76 darthstar

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It sounds as though she fucked every exec at News of the World.

123 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:17:13pm

re: #122 Justanotherhuman

It sounds as though she fucked every exec at News of the World.

While every exec from Murdoch on down fucked the rest of the world.

124 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:19:44pm

re: #111 Witches BaBOOshka

I think Bryan is saying he believe in demonic possession because Jesus believed in it and exorcised a bunch of people.

re: #112 b_sharp

You be readin’ it wrong.

I speak fluid wingnut.

Ah. I get it now. Guess my Fundie-to-English translator is on the fritz again.

125 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:20:20pm
126 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:22:55pm
127 Political Atheist  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:23:12pm

The Nixon speech that underpins the ACA. Hat Tip-Kaiser medical. Paged.

128 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:23:37pm

re: #126 Lidane

I think this green curried shrimp may be God’s judgment on me.

129 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:24:44pm

I guess I shouldn’t have told the waiter I wanted the hottest curry they had. They’re probably laughing their asses off back in the kitchen.

130 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:25:07pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

I guess I shouldn’t have told the waiter I wanted the hottest curry they had. They’re probably laughing their asses off back in the kitchen.

Try to remember that next time…

131 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:25:21pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

I think this green curried shrimp may be God’s judgment on me.

Get some milk

132 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:27:19pm

re: #115 Witches BaBOOshka

WINGNUT TOTALLY GETS IT WRONG.
“Journalist” would be holding up a sign saying “I AM GOD”

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Ah, yes.

The “liberal” media.

Anyone who believes the overall media is biased towards a “liberal” viewpoint clearly watches too much Fox News.

133 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:27:39pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

There’s your problem right there. /

There’s an Indian place near me - Brick Lane Curry House, that has locations in NJ and NYC, and they claim to have one of the hottest curries ever concocted. Waivers are required hot.

No thanks. I’ll stick to my Vindaloo. I could go hotter just for kicks, but I’d like to taste the food I’m eating, and not have the taste buds seared right off…

134 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:27:44pm

re: #103 erik_t

Jesus was a demon?

I don’t get it.

I asked him the same thing just now.

135 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:28:13pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

I guess I shouldn’t have told the waiter I wanted the hottest curry they had. They’re probably laughing their asses off back in the kitchen.

On the flipside, that hot curry probably cleared out your sinuses for a while.

136 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:28:28pm

re: #131 Kragar

I did - but it didn’t actually help much.

Never challenge a Thai chef.

137 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:29:00pm

re: #131 Kragar

Get some milk

No, coffee. It’ll make it worse!
:evilgrin:

138 Teukka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:29:36pm

re: #128 Charles Johnson

I think this green curried shrimp may be God’s judgment on me.

The rule of thumb I’ve learnt with Thai cuisine is:
red: hot;
yellow: hotter still;
green:FIRE!.

Also, exercise caution with soups.

As for firefighting, freshly cut cucumber sticks FTW :)

139 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:30:07pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

I did - but it didn’t actually help much.

Never challenge a Thai chef.

There’s hot, very hot, fucking hot, and Thai hot. Thai hot can be fun, but it’s also very painful. I’ve cried through meals where the flavors were so good, but the pain so intense…could not stop eating.

140 erik_t  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:30:28pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

I guess I shouldn’t have told the waiter I wanted the hottest curry they had. They’re probably laughing their asses off back in the kitchen.

Image: tasty_firestorm.png

141 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:31:17pm

re: #136 Charles Johnson

I did - but it didn’t actually help much.

Never challenge a Thai chef.

Just consider what the sequel is going to be like.

Probably NSFW, but here’s Wil Wheaton on spicy dick milk:

Youtube Video

142 HappyWarrior  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:31:22pm

re: #126 Lidane

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Yeah I missed where floods never happened before legalized abortion. Thanks David. Please run for Senate so we can hear more of your infintie wisdom on how gay marriage causes famines.

143 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:32:42pm

re: #125 Charles Johnson

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Happened to me once with broccoli w/garlic sauce, my favorite dish. Haven’t had it anywhere else as hot as that was.

144 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:33:25pm

Biden: ‘Worth Considering’ Senate Nuclear Option For Nominees
Just do it already.

145 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:35:34pm

I’m remembering the SNL Hot Wings sketch from back in the day.

Customer #2: What is this huh? Just tell me where the super fire hot wings are and I’ll go get them myself.

Manager: Alright alright you win. Here they are.

Customer #2: [looks left, then right; screen freezes with scrolling message narrated by Phil Hartman, and surrendering music playing]

Message: As Scott Hanson bit into the chicken wing, his head turned a bright beet red and large amounts of smoke began to billow from his ears. Within seconds his eyes had become slot machine tumblers which spun around until both landed on the symbol for chili peppers. Next, bolting up from his chair and shouting ‘woo-woo’, Scott chugged around the room like a locomotive finally shooting through the root of ‘Ron’s Wings N’ Things’ and exploding high over the Buffalo night sky. In an ironic footnote to the story, the chicken wing Scott had was only a hot wing and not the super fire hot wing he had ordered.

146 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:35:43pm
147 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:37:21pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

littlegreenfootballs.com

148 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:38:58pm

re: #146 Charles Johnson

re: #147 Lidane

…
..
.

149 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:40:13pm

re: #140 erik_t

The City of Irwindale, Ca. tried to get their plant shut down today. They failed.

Sriracha lawsuit: Judge denies Calif. city’s bid to close hot sauce plant

A judge has denied a Southern California factory town’s attempt to shut down production of the popular Sriracha chili sauce over complaints about the pungent smell of pepper and garlic fumes emanating from the factory.

150 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:40:34pm
151 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:41:37pm

re: #149 Bubblehead II

The City of Irwindale, Ca. tried to get their plant shut down today. They failed.

Sriracha lawsuit: Judge denies Calif. city’s bid to close hot sauce plant

A judge has denied a Southern California factory town’s attempt to shut down production of the popular Sriracha chili sauce over complaints about the pungent smell of pepper and garlic fumes emanating from the factory.

Sounds like a wonderful place to live.

152 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:44:35pm
153 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:49:24pm

On an OT note, I just got the “birth control=abortifacient” argument on another forum I frequent. At the moment, the person making it seems misinformed as opposed to deliberately lying, so does anyone happen to have a good source handy for debunking this claim? So far I’ve found this, but it’s about the morning-after pill. The birth control pill works by stopping ovulation, but apparently there’s some dubious claim that it thins the uterine lining, thus rendering a fertilized egg unable to implant…

154 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:51:20pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

On an OT note, I just got the “birth control=abortifacient” argument on another forum I frequent. At the moment, the person making it seems misinformed as opposed to deliberately lying, so does anyone happen to have a good source handy for debunking this claim? So far I’ve found this, but it’s about the morning-after pill. The birth control pill works by stopping ovulation, but apparently there’s some dubious claim that it thins the uterine lining, thus rendering a fertilized egg unable to implant…

No amount of facts will dissuade a pro-lifer they are wrong.

155 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:52:16pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

On an OT note, I just got the “birth control=abortifacient” argument on another forum I frequent. At the moment, the person making it seems misinformed as opposed to deliberately lying, so does anyone happen to have a good source handy for debunking this claim? So far I’ve found this, but it’s about the morning-after pill. The birth control pill works by stopping ovulation, but apparently there’s some dubious claim that it thins the uterine lining, thus rendering a fertilized egg unable to implant…

My understanding is that the claim that the uterine lining is thinned is accurate, and this is why many women on birth control experience lighter periods; the primary method of blocking conception is by stopping ovulation, however.

I don’t have any good studies to link to or anything of that nature, though, because most of this knowledge is just what I’ve learned through almost 17 years of being on birth control of one form or another.

156 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:53:39pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

On an OT note, I just got the “birth control=abortifacient” argument on another forum I frequent. At the moment, the person making it seems misinformed as opposed to deliberately lying, so does anyone happen to have a good source handy for debunking this claim? So far I’ve found this, but it’s about the morning-after pill. The birth control pill works by stopping ovulation, but apparently there’s some dubious claim that it thins the uterine lining, thus rendering a fertilized egg unable to implant…

What Klys said, plus if there’s no egg, who cares what the lining is like?

157 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:53:59pm

Plus what Kragar said.

158 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:56:30pm

re: #156 wrenchwench

Because taking a pill that prevents pregnancy is the exact. same. thing. as a super late-term abortion where the fetus is nearly fully formed argle bargle outrage.

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159 leftynyc  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:56:42pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

On an OT note, I just got the “birth control=abortifacient” argument on another forum I frequent. At the moment, the person making it seems misinformed as opposed to deliberately lying, so does anyone happen to have a good source handy for debunking this claim? So far I’ve found this, but it’s about the morning-after pill. The birth control pill works by stopping ovulation, but apparently there’s some dubious claim that it thins the uterine lining, thus rendering a fertilized egg unable to implant…

From what I understand, it does both. I know when I was on the pill, my periods were much lighter so it may be true (hope that was not TMI). You really can’t reason with these people - they simply want to control women’s lives - it’s that simple.

160 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:57:41pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

Birth control allows unauthorized sexy time to occur which is the same exact thing as late term abortion you baby killing genocide thing outrage.///

161 Varek Raith  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:58:21pm

re: #160 Bulworth

Birth control allows unauthorized sexy time to occur which is the same exact thing as late term abortion you baby killing genocide thing outrage.///

Benghazi.

162 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:58:37pm

re: #156 wrenchwench

What Klys said, plus if there’s no egg, who cares what the lining is like?

Because BABY! And also, slut.

I’ll add a note that it’s mostly the hormonal forms that will thin the uterus lining and prevent ovluation; a copper IUD functions differently (makes the environment toxic to the egg) and is frequently not recommended in cases where a woman already has cramps or heavy periods because it’s known to make these issues worse.

But seriously, sometimes eggs are going to fail to implant anyway. A fertilized egg is not a baby. It is not even a fetus. It needs a little more development to get to that point.

None of that will convince the “life begins at conception” crowd, unfortunately.

163 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:58:49pm

re: #151 Varek Raith

Sounds like a wonderful place to live.

Probably is. Once the odor problem is fixed, the locals will be happy.
BTW, did you watch the video at the link? Pretty interesting.

The owner came over from Vietnam as a refugee and built the company from the ground up without any Government assistance.

164 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 12:59:10pm

Having sex with a reduced chance of getting pregnant is THE DEVIL!

165 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:00:32pm

re: #157 wrenchwench

Plus what Kragar said.

Thing is, the person doesn’t seem like a fire-breathing, rabid “Operation Rescue” type. They said they “respect” other people’s choices, and before they went on to use the pill=abortifacient” argument, they admitted it might be oversimplified. That’s why I’m thinking it’s someone simply repeating what they’ve been told, and that they might be open to a counter-argument backed up by medical facts (it isn’t so much a question of me trying to change their beliefs, but get them to at least stop spreading misinformation, i.e. the claim the pill always causes abortions)

166 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:00:36pm

re: #150 Lidane

Of course he does….

167 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:00:38pm
168 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:00:47pm

re: #154 Kragar

Take an aspirin (and place it between your legs) and call me in the morning. /

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:01:00pm

re: #153 Interesting Times

According to Planned Parenthood:

The hormones in the pill work by

Keeping eggs from leaving the ovaries. Pregnancy cannot happen if there is no egg to join with sperm.
Making cervical mucus thicker. This keeps sperm from getting to the eggs.

If you want to read some really wacky stuff on the subject, see Pharmacists For Life International.

170 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:01:04pm

re: #159 leftynyc

From what I understand, it does both. I know when I was on the pill, my periods were much lighter so it may be true (hope that was not TMI). You really can’t reason with these people - they simply want to control women’s lives - it’s that simple.

I won’t lie, I don’t have a period on my current form of birth control and it is the best. Thing. EVER.

Now if only I can convince them that I should be sedated when they replace it with a new one…

(Seriously, my husband knows that he damn well better pamper me that whole weekend.)

171 blueraven  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:01:36pm

Israel suspected in blast at Syrian missile base

Reports of a large explosion at a Syrian missile base near the Mediterranean coast town of Latakia have raised the question of whether Israel staged another airstrike against advanced weapons systems possibly intended for Lebanon’s Shiite militant group Hezbollah.

The last alleged Israeli air strike in Syria was in early July, when Israeli jets over the Mediterranean fired long-range missiles at a Syrian military base north of Latakia. The alleged target was a consignment of advanced Russian P-800 Yakhont missiles that Israel believed were destined for Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Subsequent reports claimed that the P-800 Yakhonts were not destroyed in the air strike as they had already been moved, raising the prospect of another Israeli attempt to attack the missile consignment.

172 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:02:00pm

re: #162 klys

Because BABY! And also, slut.

I’ll add a note that it’s mostly the hormonal forms that will thin the uterus lining and prevent ovluation; a copper IUD functions differently (makes the environment toxic to the egg) and is frequently not recommended in cases where a woman already has cramps or heavy periods because it’s known to make these issues worse.

But seriously, sometimes eggs are going to fail to implant anyway. A fertilized egg is not a baby. It is not even a fetus. It needs a little more development to get to that point.

None of that will convince the “life begins at conception” crowd, unfortunately.

If life begins when the sperm meets the egg, God is killing 75% of His baybeez. I think even God counts from implantation, because He only kills a few that have implanted. Of course, sometimes it implants in the wrong place, then He kills the mom too.

173 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:02:12pm

re: #161 Varek Raith

Benghazi.

Drink!

174 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:03:17pm

re: #165 Interesting Times

Thing is, the person doesn’t seem like a fire-breathing, rabid “Operation Rescue” type. They said they “respect” other people’s choices, and before they went on to use the pill=abortifacient” argument, they admitted it might be oversimplified. That’s why I’m thinking it’s someone simply repeating what they’ve been told, and that they might be open to a counter-argument backed up by medical facts (it isn’t so much a question of me trying to change their beliefs, but get them to at least stop spreading misinformation, i.e. the claim the pill always causes abortions)

Would this person be open to knowing that most fertilized eggs never implant, even if the woman wants it to?

175 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:03:34pm

re: #172 wrenchwench

If life begins when the sperm meets the egg, God is killing 75% of His baybeez. I think even God counts from implantation, because He only kills a few that have implanted. Of course, sometimes it implants in the wrong place, then He kills the mom too.

What are these science facts you speak of? Science is the devil. THE DEVIL!

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176 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:04:53pm

re: #79 GunstarGreen

Ex-Half Governor Moosehead.

Klondike Barbie has always been my fave.

177 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:06:16pm

re: #176 makeitstop

Ex-Half Governor Moosehead is pretty good, too.

178 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:06:19pm

life is hard enough as it is and now these people want to deprive us the unmitigated joy of fucking too…. what a group of miserable asshats. Somebody should buy these fuckers a dog or a cat and tell them to go live their own lives.

179 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:06:40pm

Image: The_Crawling_Eye.jpg

180 Interesting Times  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:06:51pm

re: #174 wrenchwench

Would this person be open to knowing that most fertilized eggs never implant, even if the woman wants it to?

They’d probably default to the whole “God’s will” thing, though I’d be tempted to mention it regardless.

181 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:07:01pm

Wow. These guys.

182 allegro  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:07:05pm

re: #178 piratedan

life is hard enough as it is and now these people want to deprive us the unmitigated joy of fucking too…. what a group of miserable asshats. Somebody should buy these fuckers a dog or a cat and tell them to go live their own lives.

Nooooo! Please don’t do that to dogs and cats! I wouldn’t even do that to a goldfish

183 gwangung  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:07:13pm

re: #165 Interesting Times

Thing is, the person doesn’t seem like a fire-breathing, rabid “Operation Rescue” type. They said they “respect” other people’s choices, and before they went on to use the pill=abortifacient” argument, they admitted it might be oversimplified. That’s why I’m thinking it’s someone simply repeating what they’ve been told, and that they might be open to a counter-argument backed up by medical facts (it isn’t so much a question of me trying to change their beliefs, but get them to at least stop spreading misinformation, i.e. the claim the pill always causes abortions)

Then just say that the main effect is to prevent ovulation. It’s kinda irrelevant that the uterine wall is thin if the egg ain’t there.

184 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:09:46pm

re: #178 piratedan

life is hard enough as it is and now these people want to deprive us the unmitigated joy of fucking too…. what a group of miserable asshats. Somebody should buy these fuckers a dog or a cat and tell them to go live their own lives.

Here’s the thing…they hate that most of us actually enjoy the sexy times because they aren’t allowed to.
So, if they can’t have sexy fun then NOBODY ELSE should…

185 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:09:48pm

re: #178 piratedan

life is hard enough as it is and now these people want to deprive us the unmitigated joy of fucking too…. what a group of miserable asshats. Somebody should buy these fuckers a dog or a cat and tell them to go live their own lives.

Here we are discussing all kinds of mitigations. Oh, wait. You’re a guy.

186 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:10:58pm

Pop Star Honored by Putin Named Mafia Courier by Treasury

bloomberg.com

Several individuals and 3 companies were “designated” on 10/30/13, including Grigory Lepsveridze.

treasury.gov

187 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:11:10pm

re: #180 Interesting Times

They’d probably default to the whole “God’s will” thing, though I’d be tempted to mention it regardless.

Unless it’s the Catholics, then it’s “one of God’s mysteries, so just shut up.”
I still remember that answer to myriad questions when I was in Catholic grade school, back in another century…

188 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:11:53pm
189 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:12:22pm
190 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:13:11pm

re: #179 Gus

Image: The_Crawling_Eye.jpg

First movie on the syndicated version of MST3k, and the last movie Mike and the Bots were sitting down to watch on the finale episode once they made it back down to Earth.

191 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:13:30pm

re: #189 Charles Johnson

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When Crocoducks go wrong.

192 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:13:46pm

re: #160 Bulworth

Birth control allows unauthorized sexy time to occur which is the same exact thing as late term abortion you baby killing genocide thing outrage.///

That’s pretty much it.

Birth control allows for unauthorized sexytimes and the morning after pill allows for a woman to safely protect herself after the condom breaks or she gets caught up in a drunken moment or whatever. That’s why these nutjobs will go out of their way to fight against both of them.

Anything that gives a woman power over her own body and her reproductive system is bad. That destroys their narrative that all sex outside of married procreative sex is evil. We can’t allow that.

193 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:14:39pm

(That’s actually the classic Kirk Cameron crocoduck.)

194 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:15:15pm

I will just say they can pry my birth control from my cold, dead fingers (metaphorically speaking, ahem).

Going after birth control really makes it clear that this is about controlling women and has nothing at all to do with TEH BABBEHS. (Not saying that the perhaps misguided person whose statements led to the start of this discussion believes that, but the whole mess about paying for contraception is a pretty clear indication that that’s the motivation of the religious right.)

195 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:15:57pm

Figures that the night of Halloween here would be windy as hell, ensuring that the decorations that took me an hour to put up will get blown all over the yard before the night’s over.

196 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:17:11pm

re: #193 Charles Johnson

(That’s actually the classic Kirk Cameron crocoduck.)

When Crocoducks get plagiarized.

197 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:17:24pm

re: #185 wrenchwench

sorry about that ma’am, a completely selfish and unrepentant take proclaiming that yes, I like to be able to engage in sexy times and not worry about bringing additional mouths to feed into the world. The fact that it allows my much better half to do the same is obviously a fringe benefit for myself but has also served the purpose of helping her out with her internal doings as well.

I’m a guy, I like sex….

198 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:18:52pm

Looks like a female crocollard to me.

199 leftynyc  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:20:00pm

re: #170 klys

I won’t lie, I don’t have a period on my current form of birth control and it is the best. Thing. EVER.

Now if only I can convince them that I should be sedated when they replace it with a new one…

(Seriously, my husband knows that he damn well better pamper me that whole weekend.)

The best thing about menopause is not having to worry about birth control anymore. It’s very liberating.

200 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:21:14pm

re: #197 piratedan

sorry about that ma’am, a completely selfish and unrepentant take proclaiming that yes, I like to be able to engage in sexy times and not worry about bringing additional mouths to feed into the world. The fact that it allows my much better half to do the same is obviously a fringe benefit for myself but has also served the purpose of helping her out with her internal doings as well.

I’m a guy, I like sex….

Just picking on you a bit. It’s not your fault that IT’S A CONSTANT BATTLE AGAINST FERTILITY FOR THE POOR WIMMINZ!!!!! Resentment? Me? nah…

And sometimes the man does the mitigating….

Best to you and the much better half.

201 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:21:38pm

hmmm…a quiz:

How to Spot the Reptilians Running the U.S. Government

202 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:21:42pm
203 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:22:01pm

re: #57 Backwoods_Sleuth

Pumpkin carving inspired by famous art

I’m fond of Munch’s “The Scream”, but the van Gogh “Starry Night” one is a close second.

My niece carves pumpkins to display Pokemon characters.

204 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:22:16pm

re: #188 Charles Johnson

Gawker is worried about privacy?

205 Dalai Rasta  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:22:44pm

re: #142 HappyWarrior

Yeah I missed where floods never happened before legalized abortion. Thanks David. Please run for Senate so we can hear more of your infintile wisdom on how gay marriage causes famines.

Fixed that for you.

206 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:22:49pm

re: #204 jaunte

Gawker is worried about privacy?

[Does cartwheel.]

207 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:23:09pm
208 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:23:41pm
209 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:24:01pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

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Welp. That’s it then I guess. The “real voice of terror.” We may as well surrender now.

210 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:24:26pm

Hangs head down in shame.

[Sprinkles pixies dust and skips away.]

211 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:25:59pm
212 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:27:03pm

re: #207 Charles Johnson

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How the hell can you believe anything by someone who writes this misogynistic bullshit?

Goldman Sachs Is Treating Its Employees Like Pussies

gawker.com

213 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:27:16pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

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Fox 2013: Fine, we pretend to be journalists but Glen is worse than us!

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214 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:27:25pm

re: #211 Charles Johnson

I;m a journalist who writes what’s newsworthy!!;,;

215 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:28:43pm

re: #200 wrenchwench

I just wish that all of these hypocritical “family values” guys who are constantly being caught with their pants around their ankles would stop being hypocritical about their own sexual desires. Yes, it’s not proper or correct to cheat on one’s spouse, but this whole “punishment” game that they’ve concocted around it doesn’t do anyone any favors in that they feel that they have to punish women because they’ve been tempted by the fruits of another (Hi Glenn Tilbrook!).

Utter bullshit….

as you’ve mentioned, it helps many women in regards to their inner workings, prevents unwanted births, what’s wrong with that picture?

216 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:28:50pm

Breaking. Stop. Glenn Greenwald negotiates surrender of US officials to senior Taliban leaders. Stop. Developing. Stop. More to come. Stop.

217 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:29:15pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Dudebro logic, such as it is.

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218 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:29:21pm

re: #216 Gus

Breaking. Stop. Glenn Greenwald negotiates surrender of US officials to senior Taliban leaders. Stop. Developing. Stop. More to come. Stop.

Please. Stop.

219 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:30:05pm

Put a shirt on, man.

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220 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:30:13pm

re: #218 Kragar

Please. Stop.

Mmm.

221 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:31:00pm

Obligatory kitteh Halloween costume picture:

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222 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:31:20pm

So Rick Wiles said Miley Cyrus had sex with a demon.

If he has video, I meet need to check it out.

For research.

223 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:31:23pm
224 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:31:36pm
225 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:31:55pm

re: #181 Charles Johnson

And yet they’ll bitch and moan over the fact that the President’s spending time at Camp David or traveling away from the WH.

But this all fits with the GOP strategy to starve government by any and all means. If they’re not in DC to “govern”, they wont take necessary steps to produce on-time budgets, conduct proper oversight, etc., and they further figure that it’s an election year, so they have to spend time in their district pandering to their extremist core.

It’s that or the fact that they’ve sent ratings cratering towards China, that they don’t want to do anything to disturb the notion that we’re dealing with a know-nothing and do-nothing GOP House.

226 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:32:55pm

Mmmm, guacamole.

227 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:32:56pm

Glenn Greenwald approaching the eleventy stage. But hey, he’s the new face of journalism and a cool guy according to billionaire and philanthropist guru Pierre Omidyar. Hey, he hangs out with the Dalai Lama too.

228 klys  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:34:22pm

re: #199 leftynyc

The best thing about menopause is not having to worry about birth control anymore. It’s very liberating.

I still have a long way to go to there. :( I’m thankful there are better options now than there used to be, at least - and that it exists at all, for multiple reasons (not just because I don’t want kids - I also appreciate being functional and not curled up in pain for 3 days out of every month).

229 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:34:40pm

re: #227 Gus

Hey, he hangs out with the Dalai Lama too.

It’s difficult for Glenn to find human beings who exist on the same elevated moral plane with him.

230 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:35:48pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

It’s difficult for Glenn to find human beings that exist on the same elevated moral plane with him.

Maybe we should call Greenwald, Sea Biscuit.

231 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:36:35pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

It’s difficult for Glenn to find human beings that exist on the same elevated moral plane with him.

I checked out his character sheet, he’s chaotic lawful, with a charisma score of 10 but a +2 amulet of delusion.

232 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:37:39pm

re: #231 piratedan

I checked out his character sheet, he’s chaotic lawful, with a charisma score of 10 but a +2 amulet of delusion.

Chaotic lawful isn’t even a thing.

/geek

233 kirkspencer  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:38:17pm

re: #232 Kragar

Chaotic lawful isn’t even a thing.

/geek

Check the sanity rules.

234 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:38:35pm

re: #232 Kragar

Chaotic lawful isn’t even a thing.

/geek

Greenwald strikes me as likely being Chaotic Greedy in alignment.

235 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:39:05pm

Unhinged.

236 piratedan  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:39:09pm

re: #232 Kragar

Chaotic lawful isn’t even a thing.

/geek

Glenn Greenwald plays by his own rules //////

237 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:39:24pm

Best in show.

238 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:39:42pm

Pocket opera news. //

239 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:40:05pm

re: #234 Feline Fearless Leader

Greenwald strikes me as likely being Chaotic Greedy in alignment.

Chaotic Neutral with evil tendencies.

240 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:41:10pm
241 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:41:17pm

Snidely Whiplash

242 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:42:44pm

I used to think Greenwald was just playing his dopy naïve audience with comments like that one, but now I think he actually believes it.

243 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:43:02pm

re: #240 darthstar

Tea Partiers ready to fight UN for control of Alamo

Can’t wait for the low-info mob’s Facebook freakout over that…

244 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:43:07pm

Damn, looks like Glenn may have picked up some tainted plantains down at the market this morning.

245 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:43:47pm

re: #244 b.d.

Damn, looks like Glenn may have picked up some tainted plantains down at the market this morning.

Too many limes in the coconuts.

246 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:44:22pm

re: #240 darthstar

[Embedded content]

George Rodriguez, former president of the San Antonio Tea Party, stirred up rumors in a piece titled ‘The New Battle of the Alamo.’

Rodriguez said Wednesday that he never stated that the U.N. would take control, but that he merely provided a “cautionary tale.”

“I’m just constantly saying ‘may’ or ‘might,’” he explained. “I’m never once saying that this is going to happen. We need to be aware.”

Yes, all he said was “may” or “might”.
He was just being “cautionary”…it would have been imprudent not to mention these things…

//

247 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:44:58pm

re: #240 darthstar

I saw that earlier. The source for the claim that the UN is going to take over the Alamo? Infowars.

248 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:45:14pm

re: #245 Gus

Too many limes in the coconuts.

or too many lemons in the margaritas…(h/t Bible Spice)

249 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:45:25pm

re: #247 Lidane

I saw that earlier. The source for the claim that the UN is going to take over the Alamo? Infowars.

A trusted site in TP circles.

250 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:45:44pm

re: #246 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yes, all he said was “may” or “might”.
He was just being “cautionary”…it would have been imprudent not to mention these things…

//

Just asking questions, expressing concerns…

251 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:46:09pm

Game over man. Skynet has taken over.

252 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:46:17pm

re: #248 Backwoods_Sleuth

or too many lemons in the margaritas…(h/t Bible Spice)

I’ll have the Greenwald Brazilian Bushmeat special with a Palin lemon margarita please.

253 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:46:58pm

re: #252 b.d.

I’ll have the Greenwald Brazilian Bushmeat special with a Palin lemon margarita please.

would you like that with the Thai green chile?

254 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:47:44pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

would you like that with the Thai green chile?

Oh hell no, only a fool would do that!!!!!

//

255 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:47:54pm

re: #251 Gus

Game over man. Skynet has taken over.

Not just yet. When Larry Page goes on a bender and switches on Google’s self-awareness, then we’re screwed.

256 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:48:10pm

re: #240 darthstar

Why on earth would the UN want the Alamo?

257 Gus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:48:55pm

re: #255 Lidane

Not just yet. When Larry Page goes on a bender and switches on Google’s self-awareness, then we’re screwed.

Ah. He’ll have to cash out first. He a philanthropist too yet?

258 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:48:56pm

re: #256 jaunte

Why on earth would the UN want the Alamo?

It’s all part of Agenda 21!

No sarc tags. That’s what these dipshits actually believe.

259 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:49:00pm

re: #256 jaunte

Why on earth would the UN want the Alamo?

They can make a killing running the gift shop.

260 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:49:12pm

re: #255 Lidane

Not just yet. When Larry Page goes on a bender and switches on Google’s self-awareness, then we’re screwed.

“We have access to all your internet search histories. Submit or this data shall be released to your family and friends lists.”

261 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:49:24pm

It’s Halloween. It’s raining, It’s cold. I live in an end unit of a row that has no children. No one has decorated.

Last year, on a clear night, I think we got 7 trick-or-treaters.

Taking bets on how many we get this year.

AND how are you?

262 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:49:34pm

re: #258 Lidane

A new HQ for banning golf courses.

263 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:50:30pm

re: #261 FemNaziBitch

It’s Halloween. It’s raining, It’s cold. I live in an end unit of a row that has no children. No one has decorated.

Last year, on a clear night, I think we got 7 trick-or-treaters.

Taking bets on how many we get this year.

AND how are you?

Raining, dark and very windy.
I’m just waiting for the power to go out…

264 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:51:10pm

re: #261 FemNaziBitch

It’s Halloween. It’s raining, It’s cold. I live in an end unit of a row that has no children. No one has decorated.

Last year, on a clear night, I think we got 7 trick-or-treaters.

Taking bets on how many we get this year.

AND how are you?

Our apartment is set back from the street, so even when there are kids, they don’t see our decorations and we get maybe a dozen kids if that.

265 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:51:26pm

re: #262 jaunte

A new HQ for banning golf courses.

And all because that commie Julian Castro hates freedom!

You know, because the mayor of San Antonio is going to give away San Antonio’s biggest tourist attraction. Or something.

266 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:52:25pm

re: #253 Backwoods_Sleuth

would you like that with the Thai green chile?

Fried in Chinese ‘gutter oil,’ please.

/anything but that. I think I just killed my own appetite.

267 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:53:03pm

re: #261 FemNaziBitch

It’s Halloween. It’s raining, It’s cold. I live in an end unit of a row that has no children. No one has decorated.

Last year, on a clear night, I think we got 7 trick-or-treaters.

Taking bets on how many we get this year.

AND how are you?

Company did a little 1/2 hour Halloween thing - treats and a bit of a costume contest among the attendees with some taking it more seriously than others (a shark costume and a panda costume among others.)

Headed home shortly to attend the apartment building’s Halloween thing - which is more child oriented since they don’t do hallway Trick or Treating.

268 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:53:42pm

re: #261 FemNaziBitch

It’s Halloween. It’s raining, It’s cold. I live in an end unit of a row that has no children. No one has decorated.

Last year, on a clear night, I think we got 7 trick-or-treaters.

Taking bets on how many we get this year.

AND how are you?

Kinda slow here. We’ve had a total of three so far.

I think we’re gonna have some candy left over…

269 jaunte  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:56:25pm

Christian Democrats ‏@ChristianDems:

“I’m going to go as a jobs bill for Halloween…and never leave the House.”

270 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 1:57:31pm

Too. Fucking. Cool.

271 b.d.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:01:40pm

I ran over 4 midget zombies on my way home today, the world has gone mad I tell you.

272 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:02:20pm

Is this racist?

survey of the day

273 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:02:37pm

re: #271 b.d.

I ran over 4 midget zombies on my way home today, the world has gone mad I tell you.

No, mine is still here, waiting on his aunt. Dad’s idea, but I say, he’s the most adorable zombie I’ve seen. : )

274 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:02:57pm

re: #268 makeitstop

Kinda slow here. We’ve had a total of three so far.

I think we’re gonna have some candy left over…

Save the Reeses for last!

275 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:05:36pm

re: #271 b.d.

I ran over 4 midget zombies on my way home today, the world has gone mad I tell you.

When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth.

//

276 Ian G.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:13:20pm

re: #208 Charles Johnson

Because intelligence work and torture are the same thing. What planet does this maroon live on?

277 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:13:45pm

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

Is this racist?

survey of the day

Definitely.

278 Ian G.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:15:26pm

re: #256 jaunte

Why on earth would the UN want the Alamo?

Because FREEDOM. And WOLVERINES. And shut up, that’s why.

279 Ian G.  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:16:15pm

re: #240 darthstar

[Embedded content]

First thing they’ll do is have Ozzy Osbourne piss on it.

280 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:16:27pm

re: #274 FemNaziBitch

Save the Reeses for last!

My wife bought two bags of ‘em!

I am handing out the Nerds, SweeTarts and Laffy Taffy first. More for me!

281 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:19:02pm

My gdaughter and hubs took the 2 boys (3 & 5) to a park where she said they claimed to have 450 lbs of candy for a Halloween celebration, plus cookies, cake, drinks, etc. My other 5 yr old g-grandson was dressed as Iron Man (they actually paid $22 for that costume—I said, hold on to it).

Imagine all those sugared up kids, though. Hopefully, they’ll have plenty of games and they can run the stuff off.

282 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:21:06pm

Someone in the office took over the PA system and started taking requests - I asked for Bauhaus’ “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”…they made it seven minutes through feedback and moaning before switching to “Total Eclipse of the Heart”…ha!

Still, the new sound system in the office is pretty good.

283 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:21:12pm

Some people in my Twitters complaining about Hilary Clinton, reason(s) unknown. Can someone enlighten me? K thanks

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:22:21pm

re: #283 Bulworth

Some people in my Twitters complaining about Hilary Clinton, reason(s) unknown. Can someone enlighten me? K thanks

because it’s Thursday?

285 makeitstop  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:23:13pm

re: #282 darthstar

Someone in the office took over the PA system and started taking requests - I asked for Bauhaus’ “Bela Lugosi’s Dead”…they made it seven minutes through feedback and moaning before switching to “Total Eclipse of the Heart”…ha!

Still, the new sound system in the office is pretty good.

A good friend of mine just got the gig as Peter Murphy’s guitarist. His first shows were the last four dates of Murphy’s all-Bauhaus tour. He’s off to China, Russia and Australia with Murphy next week.

286 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:23:49pm

As a cap to the mild discussion earlier on Rick Santorum I found a pdf of an 1995 article on him from Philadelphia Magazine. My suspicion from that is that Rick was shallow in almost all ways and slowly descended into full zealotry after initially just paying it lip service as the route for making it farther faster in the political field.

big.assets.huffingtonpost.com

287 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:25:51pm

Matt Lauer Dressed as Pamela Anderson In A Red Swimsuit

i have now been scared plenty enough to last me all halloween thankyew

288 dog philosopher  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:27:06pm

re: #280 makeitstop

My wife bought two bags of ‘em!

I am handing out the Nerds, SweeTarts and Laffy Taffy first. More for me!

i have a pile of jolly ranchers here on the desk to fend off the little bastards when they attack

< nasty old man off >

289 Mentis Fugit  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:27:22pm

re: #168 lawhawk

Take an aspirin (and place it between your legs) and call me in the morning. /

Aspirin is also an effective contraceptive for men. Just stuff one down the urethra.

290 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:27:23pm
291 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:27:42pm

My halloween costume which, to my delight, disturbed and scared several co-workers

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292 Kragar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:29:11pm

So, tonight is the drop dead day for the big project.

Management has just decided no one can go home until its done and for everyone to assist.

The guys running the show on the ground have said that taking the time to train people how to do the work would use up more time and just mean even less work gets completed before the deadline at this point.

Nice work assholes.

293 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:32:47pm

Perfect dental checkup for my g-grandson. : )

294 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:37:10pm

re: #292 Kragar

“And I’m gonna have to ask you to come on Sunday, too, umkay. Thanks.”

295 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:38:53pm

He was tortured by a raving maniac of a Nazi father and shot him when he was only 10. Only 10, people. A little boy.

Boy, 13, Sentenced To 40 Years To Life For Murder Of Neo-Nazi Father

losangeles.cbslocal.com

“Joseph Hall was convicted of second-degree murder for the crime he committed at age 10 in 2011. He will be housed at a state juvenile correctional facility, a judge ruled.

“Judge Jean R. Leonard ruled Thursday that the maximum the boy can serve would be until he is 23. He’ll be eligible for parole in seven year.”

296 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:39:34pm

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

This appears to be a source of the angst.

297 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:40:37pm

re: #219 darthstar

Put a shirt on, man.

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“That would have worked if you hadn’t stopped me, Venkman.”

298 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:42:16pm

Happy Halloween from the White House

299 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:42:30pm

re: #291 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

My halloween costume which, to my delight, disturbed and scared several co-workers

Image: 602266_10151763587416560_495014493_n.jpg

The best evah was a friend of mine who after 4 kids (two unplanned) had her tubes tied, and her husband had a vasectomy. She came in a pregnancy costume. Nothing overboard, just her normal self with a big belly.

I nearly screamed.

300 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:44:14pm

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

He was tortured by a raving maniac of a Nazi father and shot him when he was only 10. Only 10, people. A little boy.

Boy, 13, Sentenced To 40 Years To Life For Murder Of Neo-Nazi Father

losangeles.cbslocal.com

“Joseph Hall was convicted of second-degree murder for the crime he committed at age 10 in 2011. He will be housed at a state juvenile correctional facility, a judge ruled.

“Judge Jean R. Leonard ruled Thursday that the maximum the boy can serve would be until he is 23. He’ll be eligible for parole in seven year.”

This shit has to stop. Self-defense against domestic abuse—Shouldn’t have to happen. God forbid we spend money on outreach to schools and pay social workers to intervene and help.

301 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:44:28pm

re: #296 Bulworth

This appears to be a source of the angst.

That is just full of so much bullshit.

302 Bulworth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:44:47pm

I’m not sure how I feel about a Hilary campaign in 2016. But if you think the RWNJ have hated Obama….

Wait till we get a rerun of the first Clinton years, Teabag Party edition.

303 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:45:24pm

re: #299 FemNaziBitch

The best evah was a friend of mine who after 4 kids (two unplanned) had her tubes tied, and her husband had a vasectomy. She came in a pregnancy costume. Nothing overboard, just her normal self with a big belly.

I nearly screamed.

“Bullets don’t stop them!”

304 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:49:30pm

re: #301 Justanotherhuman

That is just full of so much bullshit.

So, calling for a spirit of compromise and bipartisanship is a rebuke of a guy who spent 4 years bending over backwards to try and work with a bunch of flaming assholes who openly decided their best play was to ALWAYS obstruct and NEVER compromise?

306 gwangung  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:52:21pm

re: #304 GeneJockey

So, calling for a spirit of compromise and bipartisanship is a rebuke of a guy who spent 4 years bending over backwards to try and work with a bunch of flaming assholes who openly decided their best play was to ALWAYS obstruct and NEVER compromise?

Yeah, well, I know lots of people who admit that the Dems take suggestions from Republicans, and know they include Republican proposals in the laws Dems write and will have bipartisan committees, and admit Republicans give up nothing in return….and they still think Democrats are still totally partisan.

307 BongCrodny  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:53:09pm

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

HA —goes with this story:
Ted Cruz’s Dad: I’d Like To See Obama Go ‘Back To Kenya’ (VIDEO)
[Embedded content]

Like father, like derp!

I was going to write that in the Rand Paul thread, but Ted Cruz works just as well.

308 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:53:37pm

re: #298 Justanotherhuman

Happy Halloween from the White House

[Embedded content]

That’s not orange, it’s salmon.

309 darthstar  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:54:12pm
310 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:56:46pm

Evening Lizardim. Just stopping in for a short time before the Halloween festivities start. How go things among the lizardfolk tonight?

311 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:56:49pm

Teehee!

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312 Charles Johnson  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:57:47pm
313 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:58:38pm

Lawsuit: Ark. Cop Chased and Tased Woman After She Refused to Show Him Her Breasts

Issues of Power and Control, with a badge and a gun.

314 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 2:59:52pm

LOL

315 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:02:19pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

Lawsuit: Ark. Cop Chased and Tased Woman After She Refused to Show Him Her Breasts

Issues of Power and Control, with a badge and a gun.

Some people become police because they are noble and upright citizens who want to defend the weak and dispense justice on the unlawful. Some people become police because they get off on telling other people what to do. Unfortunately, the latter category are usually pretty good at hiding it until after they get the job.

316 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:04:12pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

Lawsuit: Ark. Cop Chased and Tased Woman After She Refused to Show Him Her Breasts

Issues of Power and Control, with a badge and a gun.

What. The. Fuck. In what universe is this even remotely anything any normal person would think is acceptable?

317 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:04:18pm

re: #302 Bulworth

I’m not sure how I feel about a Hilary campaign in 2016. But if you think the RWNJ have hated Obama….

Wait till we get a rerun of the first Clinton years, Teabag Party edition.

Naw, Obama got peak hatred. They’ll have washed up on the rocks and be in ebb tide by the time Hillary runs. Yes, we’ll see some of the old anti Clinton bullshit, but the racism won’t be there and half of the conservative women will either support Hillary or stay home unless the GOP nominates a female for President, which won’t happen.

By 2016 the GOP and Tea Party will have been at each other’s throats for years, it’s going to be a hot, disorganized mess. If Hillary runs, barring an unforeseeable catastrophe or scandal she’ll win in a landslide.

318 thedopefishlives  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:05:37pm

re: #316 GeneJockey

What. The. Fuck. In what universe is this even remotely anything any normal person would think is acceptable?

Key phrase: “any normal person”. People like this are not normal by any definition of the word.

319 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:13:10pm

re: #316 GeneJockey

What. The. Fuck. In what universe is this even remotely anything any normal person would think is acceptable?

Answer: Boob gun universe.

320 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:17:19pm

re: #319 goddamnedfrank

Answer: Boob gun universe.

At least she’d be able to fight back.

321 GeneJockey  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:17:22pm

re: #317 goddamnedfrank

Naw, Obama got peak hatred. They’ll have washed up on the rocks and be in ebb tide by the time Hillary runs. Yes, we’ll see some of the old anti Clinton bullshit, but the racism won’t be there and half of the conservative women will either support Hillary or stay home unless the GOP nominates a female for President, which won’t happen.

By 2016 the GOP and Tea Party will have been at each other’s throats for years, it’s going to be a hot, disorganized mess. If Hillary runs, barring an unforeseeable catastrophe or scandal she’ll win in a landslide.

I dunno, Frank. You might be right, but there were lots of folks who thought Obama’s election would mark Peak Wingnut, and we’ve seen how THAT worked out

322 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:18:18pm

re: #321 GeneJockey

I dunno, Frank. You might be right, but there were lots of folks who thought Obama’s election would mark Peak Wingnut, and we’ve seen how THAT worked out

Some of the racism will be substituted with sexism.

323 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:19:01pm

re: #322 wrenchwench

It is a well-established fact that Peak Wingnut is a lie.

324 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:20:53pm

Part of today’s OFA email:

There are a lot of ways Obamacare provides better,
more affordable care for millions of Americans.

But if any of the following apply to you, you might be
on your own…

Obamacare covers vision appointments for children —
sadly, it doesn’t cover care for supernatural eyesight.

Obamacare removed lifetime limits on coverage. It
doesn’t extend into the afterlife.

Obamacare covers children with pre-existing conditions.
It does not protect you from something you loved in
your childhood coming back to haunt you.

Obamacare covers an annual wellness visit where you
could talk to your doctor about dizzy spells. It can’t
prevent someone from putting a spell on you.

Obamacare covers maternity and newborn care. It can’t
help if you give birth to Satan’s son.

325 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:21:16pm

re: #316 GeneJockey

What. The. Fuck. In what universe is this even remotely anything any normal person would think is acceptable?

The universe of Power and Control?

It might be called Sociopathy—but I didn’t stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

326 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:23:18pm

re: #315 thedopefishlives

Some people become police because they are noble and upright citizens who want to defend the weak and dispense justice on the unlawful. Some people become police because they get off on telling other people what to do. Unfortunately, the latter category are usually pretty good at hiding it until after they get the job.

Exactly. Sociopaths are very good at getting thru the psych testing and such. It’s a scary thing. Especially, when they attempt to become part of the Judicial system. Or the Executive, Legislative Systems. Or Religious Organizations …

and on and on

327 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:24:02pm

re: #326 FemNaziBitch

Exactly. Sociopaths are very good at getting thru the psych testing and such. It’s a scary thing. Especially, when they attempt to become part of the Judicial system. Or the Executive, Legislative Systems. Or Religious Organizations …

and on and on

Or failing that decide to become part of the Neighborhood Watch.

328 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:26:48pm

Dent Schoolhouse in Greater Cincinnati is apparently the # 2 haunt attraction in the US, and my niece is one of the ten stellar makeup artists working there. Cincinnati TV station WCPO has a picture gallery.

Niece is the one with green hair and much facial piercings, but she is an amazing makeup artist and in great demand.

329 wrenchwench  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:28:10pm

I just had a trick or treater for UNICEF. Haven’t seen one of those in a while. She was a college student though. After I told her about doing that myself when I was 8, and being yelled at by a Bircher (literally a ‘get off my lawn’ moment), I had to give her some money.

330 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:29:05pm

re: #322 wrenchwench

Some of the racism will be substituted with sexism.

And they have a huge head start on that…

331 Lidane  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:29:41pm
332 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:30:06pm

re: #322 wrenchwench

Some of the racism will be substituted with sexism.

Right, but the demographics shift intrinsically. The barely concealed racism is able to function because blacks are a minority in this country, whereas voting age women actually outnumber men. This makes it so much riskier a tactic to double down on, especially against the first female candidate for President.

Think about how Obama won by getting overwhelming support from minority subgroups, gays, hispanics / latinos, blacks, asians to offset his weaker support among whites, especially white men. Now extrapolate from the historic levels of support those subgroups already provide to the Democratic Party, subtract the racism and figure that support by white, older, married women shifts significantly towards the Democratic candidate.

If you’re a Republican operative, strategist or pollster looking at 2016 you’re looking for individual House and Senate seats to focus on, because the Presidency is almost certainly a lost cause. And this is before you factor in any add on effects from the GOP / Tea Party civil war.

333 Eventual Carrion  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 3:32:36pm

re: #256 jaunte

Why on earth would the UN want the Alamo?

As something to remember?

334 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:00:08pm

re: #129 Charles Johnson

I guess I shouldn’t have told the waiter I wanted the hottest curry they had. They’re probably laughing their asses off back in the kitchen.

My brother in law likes hot curries.
Years ago he ordered one “hot, like an Indian would like hot”
and when the waiter brought the food
he said “you will remember me tomorrow”.

335 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:14:41pm

re: #272 FemNaziBitch

Is this racist?

survey of the day

Not if it’s Antoine Dodson’s dog.

336 Louie  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:31:46pm

Back in 2006 did the NSA get the smirking chimp to slide a bug under Merkels collar? Or maybe just a weird out of nowhere massage.

337 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:02:13pm

I just got my first Tricker or Treaters!!!! 4 girls. All dead.

338 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 5:03:39pm

re: #337 FemNaziBitch

Zombies, voila!


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