Surprise: “Rate Shock” Fear-Mongering Massively Overplayed

1% playing the 3% against the 99%
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With the technical issues of the federal health insurance exchange being acknowledged and worked on with all due haste, the attention of the Affordable Care Act’s critics has turned to “rate shock,” the argument that an increasing number of insurance policy holders who said they were “happy” with their insurance in 2010 will soon be getting cancellation notices and moved to far more expensive policies.

But reality is, once again, not playing nice with this argument. Jon Gruber, an M.I.T. economist and the architect of both Romneycare and the ACA, has weighed in on the numbers and found that the much ballyhooed pain of “rate shock” is confined a tiny fraction of Americans:

Gruber broke down the A.C.A. “winners” and “losers” for me. About eighty per cent of Americans are more or less left alone by the health-care act—largely people who have health insurance through their employers. About fourteen per cent of Americans are clear winners: they are currently uninsured and will have access to an affordable insurance policy under the A.C.A.

But much of the current controversy involves the six per cent of Americans who buy their own health care on the individual market, which the A.C.A. has dramatically reformed. Gruber argued that half of these people (three per cent of all Americans) will have little change to their polices. “They have to buy new plans, but they will be pretty similar to what they had before,” he said. “It will essentially be relabeling.”

The other half, however, also three per cent of the population, will have to buy a new product that complies with the A.C.A.’s more stringent requirements for individual plans. A significant portion of these roughly nine million Americans will be forced to buy a new insurance policy with higher premiums than they currently pay. The primary reason for the increased cost is that the A.C.A. bans any plan that would require a people who get sick to pay medical fees greater than six thousand dollars per year. In other words, this was a deliberate policy decision that the White House and Congress made to raise the quality—and thus the premiums—of insurance policies at the bottom end of the individual market.

This chart makes it easier to get a sense of just what Mr. Gruber is describing:

So there you have it, 3% of American health insurance policy holders will be inconvenienced by being legally required to drop crap insurance policies (high co-pays, high deductibles, lifetime caps, minimal coverage) and buy comprehensive insurance policies on the market. For all of their sobbing about the cost, they will no doubt be happy with that insurance when they have one of those unplanned medical emergencies that would bankrupted them with their old policies.

More: Obamacare’s Three Per Cent

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1 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:03:59pm

And out of that three percent, many will actually be able to get better policies at little or no additional expense. Damn I wish healthcare.gov hadn’t been fubar; then we could’ve gotten a lot more stories about people getting insurance they like to counter the stories about the cancellation notices.

2 calochortus  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:04:39pm

I’m shocked, shocked I tell ya! Who would have thought the folks who have voted dozens of times to repeal the ACA would lie about its effects?

I’m in the 3% that buys on the individual market whose policy is entirely unaffected by the ACA. It did go up a little over 4% for next year, which is less than half of the average increase over the last few years. So yeah, I’m paying more, but less of an increase than it has been, especially since I’m in an older age cohort next year too.

3 Targetpractice  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:19:52pm

re: #1 aagcobb

And out of that three percent, many will actually be able to get better policies at little or no additional expense. Damn I wish healthcare.gov hadn’t been fubar; then we could’ve gotten a lot more stories about people getting insurance they like to counter the stories about the cancellation notices.

What I left off is that the additional cost is also largely allayed if you don’t end up really using your insurance. For those folks who were bitching that they were getting put on policies with a lot of services they’ll never used because their crap “policy” previous was little more than covering the first $250,000 after $10,000 or more had already been ponied up, they get the benefit of a fat check come ‘15 if 80% of their premiums don’t go to covering claims. So the young “invincibles” get a safety net there if they screw up, a nice chunk of change if they don’t.

4 ausador  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 4:28:48pm

So far the few stories of massive rate hikes that have been widely and breathlessly portrayed by the national media have been subsequently debunked as being non-factual and unresearched garbage.

I know I am asking for a lot but maybe after being burned several times by promulgating obviously untrue stories maybe they will see fit to do their jobs and research the actual available options for these “Obamacare Martyrs?” Maybe even before they report only what they are told by the person who is either badly misinformed or who has an obvious agenda tells them?

5 missliberties  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:39:37pm

The journalistic malpractive of all media outlets has been criminal. WTF.

6 aagcobb  Thu, Oct 31, 2013 8:47:37pm

re: #4 ausador

So far the few stories of massive rate hikes that have been widely and breathlessly portrayed by the national media have been subsequently debunked as being non-factual and unresearched garbage.

I know I am asking for a lot but maybe after being burned several times by promulgating obviously untrue stories maybe they will see fit to do their jobs and research the actual available options for these “Obamacare Martyrs?” Maybe even before they report only what they are told by the person who is either badly misinformed or who has an obvious agenda tells them?

Reporting the truth isn’t their job.////

7 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:24:13am

re: #1 aagcobb

And out of that three percent, many will actually be able to get better policies at little or no additional expense. Damn I wish healthcare.gov hadn’t been fubar; then we could’ve gotten a lot more stories about people getting insurance they like to counter the stories about the cancellation notices.

Doubtful. In the interests of ‘balance’ the ‘liberal media’ would have focused on the problems and not the successes.

There’s no money in good news after all.

8 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:37:02am

re: #4 ausador

So far the few stories of massive rate hikes that have been widely and breathlessly portrayed by the national media have been subsequently debunked as being non-factual and unresearched garbage.

I know I am asking for a lot but maybe after being burned several times by promulgating obviously untrue stories maybe they will see fit to do their jobs and research the actual available options for these “Obamacare Martyrs?” Maybe even before they report only what they are told by the person who is either badly misinformed or who has an obvious agenda tells them?

They report what their bosses tell them. At the top of every Old Media pile is a 1%er.

9 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:42:02am

re: #1 aagcobb

And out of that three percent, many will actually be able to get better policies at little or no additional expense. Damn I wish healthcare.gov hadn’t been fubar; then we could’ve gotten a lot more stories about people getting insurance they like to counter the stories about the cancellation notices.

ACA isn’t quite FUBAR yet, just FU’d. We are having a difficult time bringing our .gov ‘consumers’ to the end-state of their carrier selections, because we
are a opt-out red state. That makes us largely dependent on the website. If they fix that, we are just another tough launch. If they don’t, ACA will be a battering ram to flood congress and the WH with nutcases in 2014/2016.

10 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:03:56am

Politico:

The Obamacare sabotage campaign

politico.com

11 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:55:17am

And more:

Obamacare marketing push on hold

politico.com

This one is very overstated. ‘Enroll’ is just shifting to emphasis outreach marketing rather than working to enroll decided shoppers. We are preparing to fall back to snail-mail if need, to get around the website blockages. The deeper elements, like the ‘hub’, are working surprisingly well when called upon.

12 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:24:02am
13 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:24:39am

Brought to you by students of the Greenwald school of media outrage.

“The fact it happened at all means the whole system is a total failure.”

14 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:25:05am

re: #5 missliberties

The journalistic malpractive of all media outlets has been criminal. WTF.

If all you do is read or scan headlines, you’d think that everyone’s screwed by the ACA.

It couldn’t be further from the truth, but the perception plays right into the hands of the GOP who wants to conflate all woe and change with the ACA to Democrats and the President, regardless of whether the changes help or not.

15 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:25:48am

And he demands that our Gvt. does absolutely nothing to find out who is behind this or if this guy acted alone.

16 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:27:41am

How does one “pull out” a rifle?

17 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:28:17am

re: #15 b.d.

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And he demands that our Gvt. does absolutely nothing to find out who is behind this or if this guy acted alone.

If only we had some sort of program in place to know who else this guy was talking to.
/

18 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:28:56am

I hope the shooter wasn’t an anti-government wingnut.

19 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:29:15am

re: #15 b.d.

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And he demands that our Gvt. does absolutely nothing to find out who is behind this or if this guy acted alone.

He was probably the actual target, like M. Hastings.

20 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:29:20am

re: #16 erik_t

How does one “pull out” a rifle?

Suspect is extremely tall

21 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:30:28am

re: #18 Eclectic Cyborg

I hope the shooter wasn’t an anti-government wingnut.

No matter what the evidence, I know some sources will declare him a socialist liberal democrat.

22 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:30:57am

re: #16 erik_t

Expect multiple iterations of the kinds of weapons used.

23 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:31:01am

re: #19 wrenchwench

He was probably the actual target, like M. Hastings.

OMG you’re right. This whole deal is an ill timed government black ops deal to off Scahill.

Damn East coast delays!

//

24 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:31:10am

re: #21 Kragar

No matter what the evidence, I know some sources will declare him a socialist liberal democrat.

No responsible gun owner would ever do such a thing!

25 erik_t  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:32:19am

re: #22 lawhawk

Expect multiple iterations of the kinds of weapons used.

I fully expect to hear that the shooting occurred both before and after security.

I would bet a non-trivial fraction of my life savings on this, in fact.

26 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:32:27am
27 Skip Intro  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:32:51am

re: #24 Targetpractice

No responsible gun owner would ever do such a thing!

I blame the airport management for not requiring everyone entering the building be heavily armed.

28 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:32:54am

re: #24 Targetpractice

No responsible gun owner would ever do such a thing!

“Sure, he was a regular churchgoer, a registered Republican, and a member of several Conservative groups, but he smoked pot in college once, so he had to be a liberal atheist commie!”

29 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:34:23am

re: #28 Kragar

“Sure, he was a regular churchgoer, a registered Republican, and a member of several Conservative groups, but he smoked pot in college once, so he had to be a liberal atheist commie!”

He thought Obama was born in Hawaii so that means he must be a socialist democrat.

//

30 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:35:12am

re: #28 Kragar

“Sure, he was a regular churchgoer, a registered Republican, and a member of several Conservative groups, but he smoked pot in college once, so he had to be a liberal atheist commie!”

He read Mein Kampf! He’s definitely a socialist!

31 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:36:21am

If Cinnabon was allowed to sell hand grenades this would never have happened.

32 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:36:43am

re: #26 Lidane

If this person got Medicaid then she would be a moocher. //

33 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:37:02am
34 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:37:17am

From my Facebook feed:

Well its official! After all the empty promises that we wouldnt be. My family is being kicked off of our health insurance plan.
under Nazzicare our rates will effectively triple for less coverage..

Im officially fucking done!
I refuse.
I will NOT be party to this shit. I will NOT be forced to buy this shit. I refuse to pay any fines or fees associated.
And fuck anyone who supports this fucking garbage.
This isnt some internet chain mail bullshit
This is me speaking out of anger and frustration. With all the bullshit going on in my life this is just the icing on the cake. Yeah Im pissed off fuck you if you dont like it !

A few of his “friends”, including myself have tried to reason with him and explain everything, with no results, of course.

35 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:37:20am

re: #31 b.d.

If Cinnabon was allowed to sell hand grenades this would never have happened.

I got confused for a moment before I realized you meant ACTUAL Hand grenades and not the alcoholic beverage.

36 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:38:03am
38 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:38:56am
39 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:41:26am

re: #33 Kragar

Benghazi “Witness” Was Nowhere Near Terrorist Attack

Wasn’t there a woman who got a lot of press after 9/11 by claiming she was in one of the towers but she was in fact nowhere near them?

40 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:42:16am

re: #16 erik_t

How does one “pull out” a rifle?

Hollow leg.

41 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:42:52am

re: #16 erik_t

How does one “pull out” a rifle?

re: #20 b.d.

Suspect is extremely tall

And has an extremely high pain tolerance, this is much worse than a simple stick up you-know-where, this has sights and a magazine poking out!

///

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:43:16am

re: #16 erik_t

How does one “pull out” a rifle?

Some folding stock rifles can be concealed beneath a coat. It might also have been a pistol caliber carbine. It is simply too soon to know. If I see a good picture of the weapon, I’ll be able to tell you what it is.

43 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:43:38am

re: #40 b_sharp

Hollow leg.

Collapsible stock, long coat, dufflebag or large case of some sort.

44 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:43:48am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

60 Minutes Benghazi Report Takes a Huge Credibility Hit

I see they’re going with the “fake but accurate” defense, claiming that even though his report says he was nowhere near the embassy, he was actually lying because a superior told him not to be there.

Let’s think about that: Guy has lied to his superiors and already had one news station drop any association with him because he begged for money. What are the odds CBS is now trying to avoid looking like fools for paying this guy to give them a bogus story?

45 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:44:08am

re: #40 b_sharp

Hollow leg.

A Liam Neeson fan, I see.

46 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:44:51am
47 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:45:55am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

Between this and its ACA trolling, CBS News has sure been in rare form these days.

48 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:45:59am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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The suspect is alive? He won’t be for long, if Obama has anything to say about it! Can’t have a false flag attack falling apart because the dumbass couldn’t remember to shoot himself.

49 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:46:14am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Based on witnesses/police reports, weapon was AR-15.

Everything is first reported as an AR-15

50 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:46:45am

Plenty of mods for an AR-15 to cut down the length.

51 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:47:02am

re: #49 b.d.

Everything is first reported as an AR-15

True enough.

52 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:47:34am

re: #43 Kragar

Collapsible stock, long coat, dufflebag or large case of some sort.

Fuck off, it was a hollow leg.

I refuse to consider anything less.

53 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:47:39am

Must admit I’m surprised, Alex Jones is late to scream FALSE FLAG!!!

54 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:49:01am

re: #49 b.d.

Everything is first reported as an AR-15

Exactly. The asshole at the DC navy yard was first reported as having an AR-15, but in fact his weapon was a Remington 870 shotgun, which doesn’t look anything like an AR-15.

Let’s not rush to conclusions.

55 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:49:51am

re: #53 Targetpractice

Must admit I’m surprised, Alex Jones is late to scream FALSE FLAG!!!

You have to know what flag the freak was flying before you say it was false.

56 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:50:23am

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

Exactly. The asshole at the DC navy yard was first reported as having an AR-15, but in fact his weapon was a Remington 870 shotgun, which doesn’t look anything like an AR-15.

Let’s not rush to conclusions.

HE IS A CYBORG FROM THE FUTURE MADE COMPLETELY OUT OF AR-15S!

57 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:50:54am

re: #43 Kragar

Collapsible stock, long coat, dufflebag or large case of some sort.

Don’t forget that people constantly carry rifle cases (both soft and hard) into airports to check them as baggage. Walk into Anchorage International on any day of the week between May and October (hunting seasons) and you will see dozens of men each transporting one to three rifle cases inside the airport.

Outside of the luggage check/security checkpoint is NOT a gun free zone!

58 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:51:23am

re: #56 Kragar

HE IS A CYBORG FROM THE FUTURE MADE COMPLETELY OUT OF AR-15S!

He was systematically killing all women with first name “Sarah,” last name “Conner.”

59 calochortus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:51:34am

re: #37 Charles Johnson

60 Minutes Benghazi Report Takes a Huge Credibility Hit

60 Minutes has credibility any more? Who knew?

60 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:51:44am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

You have to know what flag the freak was flying before you say it was false.

“He was off his meds and once played video games.” = Liberal
“He was obsessed with guns and the end times” = FALSE FLAG!

61 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:51:54am

If I were go on a shooting rampage, I’d use a Derringer but I’d paint an AR-15 on the side of it so people could claim I’d used an assault weapon.

62 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:52:08am
63 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:52:18am

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

You have to know what flag the freak was flying before you say it was false.

When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a world government conspiracy backed by international bankers.

64 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:52:36am

from the link

“We’ve decided as a society that we don’t want people to have insurance plans that expose them to more than six thousand dollars in out-of-pocket expenses,” Gruber said. Obama obviously should have known that his blanket statement about “keeping what you have” could not apply to this class of policyholders.

Gruber summarized his stats: ninety-seven per cent of Americans are either left alone or are clear winners, while three per cent are arguably losers. “We have to as a society be able to accept that,” he said. “Don’t get me wrong, that’s a shame, but no law in the history of America makes everyone better off.”

Are these numbers deceptive or exaggerated?

Nearly 2 million Californians have individual insurance, and several hundred thousand of them are losing their health plans in a matter of weeks.

Blue Shield of California sent termination letters to 119,000 customers last month whose plans don’t meet the new federal requirements. About two-thirds of those people will experience a rate increase from switching to a new health plan, according to the company.

HMO giant Kaiser Permanente is canceling coverage for about half of its individual customers, or 160,000 people, and offering to automatically enroll them in the most comparable health plan available.

65 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:53:16am

re: #61 b_sharp

If I were go on a shooting rampage, I’d use a Derringer but I’d paint an AR-15 on the side of it so people could claim I’d used an assault weapon.

It’s like every dog that attacks someone is a pit bull.

66 Joanne  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:53:29am

re: #53 Targetpractice

Must admit I’m surprised, Alex Jones is late to scream FALSE FLAG!!!

Don’t need Alex Jones; the Washington Times commentors all think this was a FF Op. Sure, the Mooney Times isn’t the Washington Post, but it’s not exactly Infowars. Except…the people who read it all have the Infowars mindset.

67 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:54:49am

re: #66 Joanne

Don’t need Alex Jones; the Washington Times commentors all think this was a FF Op. Sure, the Mooney Times isn’t the Washington Post, but it’s not exactly Infowars. Except…the people who read it all have the Infowars mindset.

Several Freepers also jumping on the FF train, convinced it’s the White House taking attention off the ACA’s troubles.

68 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:55:17am

re: #64 Political Atheist

They’re mixing customers and individuals (people).

Customer can refer to the primary insured, but that primary insured may be insuring themselves, their spouse/significant other, and dependent(s).

It’s also why numbers on how many people signed up for the ACA via the exchanges needs to be taken in context - are they being reported as just applications processed, or total number of people insured. Those numbers will be thrown around incessantly as the deadlines approach.

69 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:55:21am

re: #62 Gus

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Nothing like reporting every rumor out there as fact to get clicks up, fuck the traditional definition of journalism.

70 Joanne  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:55:53am

re: #1 aagcobb

And out of that three percent, many will actually be able to get better policies at little or no additional expense. Damn I wish healthcare.gov hadn’t been fubar; then we could’ve gotten a lot more stories about people getting insurance they like to counter the stories about the cancellation notices.

The problem is that many of these people, who buy their own insurance, do not know that they had catastrophic insurance or that they were maxed out at $5000 in benefits or whatever. They probably wouldn’t know anything until which time they needed insurance.

I think it is unlikely that many of those 3% of people would know what the difference is between their old and new policy. They solely look at dollars instead of value.

71 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:56:07am

re: #44 Targetpractice

Witness also witnessed Fast&Furious and IRS targeting scandals happen. And he punched an IRS agent in the schnozzle.

72 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:56:08am

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus


If he’s claiming triple the cost for less coverage, he’s completely full of shit.

73 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:57:23am

re: #65 The Ghost of a Flea

It’s like every dog that attacks someone is a pit bull.

It was a huge pit bull, it must have been 6 feet long , although it did look like a chihuahua.

74 ausador  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 10:57:56am

re: #62 Gus

24 hour rule definitely applies to that story, I’ll believe it when I see confirmation.

75 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 11:15:45am

re: #69 b_sharp

Nothing like reporting every rumor out there as fact to get clicks up, fuck the traditional definition of journalism.

It’s the “new journalism”: reporting via Twitter sources.

76 Ming  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:06:35pm

re: #70 Joanne

The problem is that many of these people, who buy their own insurance, do not know that they had catastrophic insurance or that they were maxed out at $5000 in benefits or whatever. They probably wouldn’t know anything until which time they needed insurance.

Frankly, “losing” a plan like that, e.g. something that maxes out on $5000 in benefits, isn’t much of a “loss”. I don’t mean to be insensitive to people who have those modest policies, but a major purpose of the Affordable Care Act was to achieve universal coverage, at a certain level of benefits.

It’s impressive that the ACA achieves this, through our current private insurance system, bringing tens of millions more people into the system. It’s even more impressive that these tens of millions of newly-insured will have comprehensive insurance, not some minimal policy that fails to cover basic things like hospital visits.

The ACA achieves universal coverage, not “universal coverage but you’ll be amazed at what your plan doesn’t cover.”

77 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #34 GlutenFreeJesus

From my Facebook feed:

A few of his “friends”, including myself have tried to reason with him and explain everything, with no results, of course.

I’m thinking that he needs his anger addiction treated very badly.


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