LAX Shooting Update: Suspect IDed as Paul Anthony Ciancia (w/ Photo)

“Strong anti-government views”
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According to multiple sources, the suspect in the LAX shootings has been identified as 23-year old Paul Anthony Ciancia, from Pennsville, New Jersey.

Ciancia was shot in a standoff with police, and is in critical condition at this point. But he’s being described as having “strong anti-government views” based on written material in his possession at the time of the shooting.

One eyewitness described the shooter coming up to him and asking, “TSA?” before moving on, which suggests he may have been targeting TSA agents in his rampage. One TSA agent was killed, and several wounded; the actual number of wounded isn’t clear yet.

KCAL 9 in LA is running this photograph of the suspect:

UPDATE at 11/1/13 3:16:04 pm

The police chief in New Jersey was alerted by Ciancia’s father that he was worried about his son, because he had made a reference to suicide in a text message.

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138 comments
1 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:15:03pm

Obviously a False Flag. His last name gives away the whole plot. CIA-N-CIA?

All too easy.
/

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:15:12pm

ahh…explains why all my best Google hits pointed to NJ…

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:19:26pm

For some reason the facial expression reminds of Ivan Drago.

4 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:20:56pm

And of course, everyone who was named Paul Ciancia is getting facebooked - and having to post that they aren’t the Ciancia everyone is looking for.

5 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:21:43pm

re: #4 lawhawk

And of course, everyone who was named Paul Ciancia is getting facebooked - and having to post that they aren’t the Ciancia everyone is looking for.

I actually searched Facebook earlier. Not many hits and none looked likely.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:21:51pm

re: #4 lawhawk

And of course, everyone who was named Paul Ciancia is getting facebooked - and having to post that they aren’t the Ciancia everyone is looking for.

But are they waving their hands while posting that?

7 blueraven  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:22:25pm

Fox News Special Report spent about 3 minutes on this story at the top of the hour.
No mention of any motive or anti-government views of the suspect. Then they quickly moved onto the horrors of Obamacare and BENGHAZI!!

8 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:22:27pm

He apparently had almost no “online footprint,” according to one local TV station.

9 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:23:40pm

What are the odds of nutjob who really thinks the government is out to get him using social media? Don’t Beck and Jones always tell their listeners to stay off the grid?

10 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:23:45pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

He apparently had almost no “online footprint,” according to one local TV station.

It’s almost worst that way. The national news media is just going to make shit up for awhile and speculate wildly.

11 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:24:12pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

He apparently had almost no “online footprint,” according to one local TV station.

Sounds like a privacy fanatic, which goes along with his anti-government stance. Hard-core dudebro, for sure.

12 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:25:24pm

re: #7 blueraven

Fox News Special Report spent about 3 minutes on this story at the top of the hour.
No mention of any motive or anti-government views of the suspect. Then they quickly moved onto the horrors of Obamacare and BENGHAZI!!

Drudge and Breitbart haven’t budged their headlines for hours now, not so much as putting the guy’s face up, when it would have been plastered everywhere if he were any color other than white.

Meanwhile, PrisonPlanet still has the “TSA agent” business up as its headline, no doubt with expectations of spinning that later off as another “cover-up.”

13 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:25:40pm

FWIW (which may be not much):

Police: Father had called about LA airport suspect

Also, his father apparently owns a body & repair shop in Pennsville.

14 Ace-o-aces  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:25:43pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

He apparently had almost no “online footprint,” according to one local TV station.

“No online footprint”, the 21st century version of, “He was quiet, kept to himself”.

15 blueraven  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:25:53pm

re: #7 blueraven

Fox News Special Report spent about 3 minutes on this story at the top of the hour.
No mention of any motive or anti-government views of the suspect. Then they quickly moved onto the horrors of Obamacare and BENGHAZI!!

OK they just now mentioned a note dropped by suspect with threats against TSA and anti-government rant.

16 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:26:06pm

Well, I don’t know if you really “need to know” all 5, but here they are.

Paul Anthony Ciancia, ‘LAX Shooter’: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Read more at: heavy.com

17 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:26:30pm

The RWNJs are going to have a hard time explaining this one away.

19 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:29:50pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

The RWNJs are going to have a hard time explaining this one away.

They’re in a holding pattern right now. My guess is they’re hoping for some hint of mental illness so they can (once again) talk up how supportive they are for mental healthcare reform in the US before going quiet as the media moves on to a new story.

20 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:30:14pm

re: #17 Eclectic Cyborg

The RWNJs are going to have a hard time explaining this one away.

LONE WOLF!

21 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:31:02pm

re: #19 Targetpractice

They’re in a holding pattern right now. My guess is they’re hoping for some hint of mental illness so they can (once again) talk up how supportive they are for mental healthcare reform in the US before going quiet as the media moves on to a new story.

His father contacted the NJ police to say his son had threatened suicide.

22 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:31:16pm
23 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:31:17pm

So they’ve already got their out.

24 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:32:17pm
25 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:34:29pm

re: #22 Gus

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Taken from Mediavulturecam.

Seriously, what do they think they’re going to gain from that? Weirdos.

26 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:34:34pm

re: #22 Gus

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So…. poverty played no role in the deal………..

27 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:36:46pm

Hans-Christian Ströbele (born 7 June 1939) is a German politician and lawyer. He is a member of the German Green party.

Ströbele studied law and political science in Heidelberg and at the Free University of Berlin. Has practiced law since 1969 in Berlin. He was a member of the “Socialist Lawyers’ Collective” for ten years, and has defended political activists for thirty years, including members of the urban guerrilla group Red Army Faction.

28 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:36:55pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

So they’ve already got their out.

True. Could also be that they’re trying to find some way to excuse the literature he was carrying with him. I doubt the Breitbartians want to link “anti-government” with “mentally ill.” Remember how far backwards they bent themselves to claim Loughner was a liberal before just settling on mentally ill.

29 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:38:09pm

More fun. Greenwald is citing a defender of the terrorist group, Red Army Faction: en.wikipedia.org

30 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:38:22pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

True. Could also be that they’re trying to find some way to excuse the literature he was carrying with him. I doubt the Breitbartians want to link “anti-government” with “mentally ill.” Remember how far backwards they bent themselves to claim Loughner was a liberal before just settling on mentally ill.

THERE’S A DIFFERENCE??!?!

31 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:38:53pm

re: #29 Gus

More fun. Greenwald is citing a defender of the terrorist group, Red Army Faction: en.wikipedia.org

Any Dudebro in a storm.

32 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:39:38pm

re: #27 Gus
re: #29 Gus


yeppers!

33 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:42:55pm
34 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:44:35pm
35 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:46:29pm

One of the Red Army Faction agents could 2 RPG rounds thru a moving car window from 100yds away in less than 9 seconds.

I remember that from a security brief back in the early 90s. I wonder if he was “not a criminal”.

36 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:46:45pm
37 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:46:47pm

re: #34 Gus

need to tweet those with GG included.

38 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:47:36pm

re: #29 Gus

More fun. Greenwald is citing a defender of the terrorist group, Red Army Faction: en.wikipedia.org

If you’ve never seen it, I recommend a really good film - “Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” based on the book by Stefan Aust.

Freakin’ great film. Solid all the way around.

39 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:47:53pm

re: #36 Gus

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damn. My youngest step-son was head of one of the Air Force security squads for that one.

40 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:52:55pm

re: #39 Backwoods_Sleuth

damn. My youngest step-son was head of one of the Air Force security squads for that one.

I remember when some bozos used to think defending scumbags like this thought it was “cool.”

41 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:53:53pm

re: #40 Gus

I remember when some bozos used to think defending scumbags like this thought it was “cool.”

yeah. My step-son still has bad dreams about that time.

42 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:56:24pm

re: #41 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah. My step-son still has bad dreams about that time.

I knew a kid when I was living in Berlin in 2010 who thought the RAF was cool; then he read the book “Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” and changed his mind pretty quick.

43 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:57:20pm

re: #38 Dr Lizardo

If you’ve never seen it, I recommend a really good film - “Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” based on the book by Stefan Aust.

Freakin’ great film. Solid all the way around.

Now playing on Netflix!

44 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:57:25pm
45 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 3:59:20pm

re: #43 Justanotherhuman

Now playing on Netflix!

Cool. I have it on DVD. Really great film, with some good acting.

46 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:01:05pm

re: #42 Dr Lizardo

I knew a kid when I was living in Berlin in 2010 who thought the RAF was cool; then he read the book “Der Baader-Meinhof Komplex” and changed his mind pretty quick.

yeah. Step-son went to Berlin a few times when he was stationed in Germany and he thought the Russian soldiers had cool uniforms, but that’s about the nicest thing he could say.

47 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:01:21pm

re: #44 Kragar

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“See, I belong to a certain secret society. I don’t believe I gotta mention its name, you know? And these boys here, they trampled all over our venerated observances and rituals!”

48 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:03:32pm

re: #46 Backwoods_Sleuth

yeah. Step-son went to Berlin a few times when he was stationed in Germany and he thought the Russian soldiers had cool uniforms, but that’s about the nicest thing he could say.

When I was young, I went through a sort of “Bolshevik” phase. The people who helped me “see the light”, if you will, was the now-defunct Socialist Labor Party - they were strongly anti-Soviet and they had a lot of literature that went into very specific criticism of the Soviet system.

49 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:06:56pm

re: #45 Dr Lizardo

Cool. I have it on DVD. Really great film, with some good acting.

I saw it on my list last night but opted for something lighter. Will watch it tonight on your rec. : )

50 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:08:00pm

Heh, I’m actually seeing wingnuts reveling in the deficit numbers released the other day, declaring this proof that the sequester was a good thing and it was right for Republicans to insist on keeping the cuts.

I just don’t have the heart to remind them they were blaming it all on Obama not more than seven months ago.

51 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:08:18pm

ratz. MrB_S just called. They just finished replacing some downed power lines and a blown transformer and now are headed to replace three broken poles and associated power lines.
Maybe he’ll get home tomorrow.
Good thing I didn’t start the big welcome home supper…

52 Kragar  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:09:56pm

Any one who thinks “THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN” hates the United States.

53 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:12:43pm

re: #52 Kragar

Any one who thinks “THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN” hates the United States.

maybe if we start feeding them yeast in the summer months….

54 missliberties  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:15:27pm

Note to right wing evangelical christian anti-government conspiracy theorists:

This is what your hate does. Stop!

55 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:15:45pm

re: #52 Kragar

Any one who thinks “THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN” hates the United States.

Well, I live here, and believe me, it ain’t gonna happen.

56 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:16:14pm

re: #53 piratedan

maybe if we start feeding them yeast in the summer months….

with a tight lid on their bottle…

57 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:18:06pm

re: #44 Kragar

I’m pretty sure that whole secession thing was settled rather decisively 150 years ago.

Idiots.

58 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:19:24pm

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

I saw it on my list last night but opted for something lighter. Will watch it tonight on your rec. : )

Cool. I don’t if it’s on Netflix, but there’s a miniseries called “Carlos” about Carlos the Jackal, Illyich Ramirez Sanchez. If you can find the full 5-hour miniseries, that’s the one to watch.

Blew me out of the water.

59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:19:55pm

re: #57 Lidane

I’m pretty sure that whole secession thing was settled rather decisively 150 years ago.

Idiots.

Not according to them. It’s just a temporary setback.
And, yes, they are idiots.

60 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:22:01pm

re: #54 missliberties

Note to right wing evangelical christian anti-government conspiracy theorists:

This is what your hate does. Stop!

Also, dudebro atheist anti-government conspiracy theorists. There seem to be a bunch of those. Any anti-government conspiracy theorists, for that matter.

61 theheat  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:23:05pm

So… where’d this little shit buy his gun, and how long has he been crazy mentally ill?

I still have a problem reconciling someone’s kid being armed and off the rails, the family or friends knowing about it, and standing on the sidelines, wringing their hands, until they off a bunch of people. It seems to be a recurring theme.

And it isn’t goddamned video games. It’s a climate of fear and conspiracy mongering, where facts can be dismissed if they contradict the agenda. Add guns. Somebody dies.

62 BishopX  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:24:17pm

re: #61 theheat

1st question, did he own the gun, or was it in the family?

63 theheat  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:25:13pm

re: #62 BishopX

If it was from his family, then it comes down to did he steal it, or did they think nothing of their mentally unstable kid running around with a gun?

64 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:27:11pm
65 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:27:54pm

from today’s press conference
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66 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:28:46pm

re: #65 Killgore Trout

from today’s press conference
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AP wins?

67 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:30:47pm

re: #66 wrenchwench

AP wins?

King of the hill!

68 Hawaii69  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:31:11pm

Gateway Pundit loses a commenter…

69 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:33:09pm
70 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:42:11pm

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

No evidence for claim that Texas voter ID law is an effort to disenfranchise women and defeat Wendy Davis

71 piratedan  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:46:03pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

it’s purely coincidental that it affects women and minorities more than it does white males…./////

72 fern01  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:46:18pm

re: #57 Lidane

I’m pretty sure that whole secession thing was settled rather decisively 150 years ago.

Idiots.

And women got the right to vote 100 years ago (which seems to upset the Texas legislature) - the wingnuts see no matter as settled - other than the 2nd amendment.

73 blueraven  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:50:29pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

Bullshit. It might not be directed at Wendy Davis specifically, but it is directed at women voters who tend to vote more for Democrats.

74 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 4:54:11pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

I’t might just be me but I would have to give Politifact a total limp on that one from a scale of hardon, half hardon, soft and total limp.

75 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:01:27pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Because men change their name after they get married and/or divorced all the time. Really.

76 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:02:45pm

re: #73 blueraven

Bullshit. It might not be directed at Wendy Davis specifically, but it is directed at women voters who tend to vote more for Democrats.

Seriously.

It’s in the Texas GOP’s interest to disenfranchise as many non-white male voters as possible. That’s what the new law does.

77 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:03:01pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

You gotta be kidding me - you’re still pimping those losers?

78 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:03:54pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

Politifact would require a signed statement from the legislators who drafted the law that their intent was unconstitutional to conclude otherwise.

Plus the stupid timeline issue. So there’s a little campaign hyperbole in a fundraising letter.

The really stupid part is that all Politifact is doing here is clouding the issue. Disenfranchisement is a very real problem. The voter fraud measures like this are supposed to prevent is a fairytale.

Clouding the issue helps the disenfranchisers, not the potential voters. I think that’s evil.

79 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:04:31pm

re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis

You gotta be kidding me - you’re still pimping those losers?

KT will do anything to find an MBF where none exists.

80 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:05:23pm

re: #79 Lidane

KT will do anything to find an MBF where none exists.

I know but that one’s weak Trolling even by KT’s standards.

81 Bubblehead II  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:05:49pm

re: #70 Killgore Trout

Politifact: “Texas Governor Rick Perry’s voter ID law is a blatant effort to defeat Wendy Davis by disenfranchising tens of thousands of women voters.”
Pants on fire

Politifact? I’d rather read tea leaves than trust in what they say.

82 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:06:36pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

The really stupid part is that all Politifact is doing here is clouding the issue.

Clouding the issue (i.e., invoking the MBF) is KT’s entire raison d’être. He can’t exist in a world where one side is clearly in the wrong.

83 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:07:22pm

re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis

I know but that one’s weak Trolling even by KT’s standards.

True. There isn’t enough pepper spray for his usual standards of fail.

84 Timothy Watson  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:07:46pm
One eyewitness described the shooter coming up to him and asking, “TSA?” before moving on, which suggests he may have been targeting TSA agents in his rampage. One TSA agent was killed, and several wounded; the actual number of wounded isn’t clear yet.

Welcome to America, where government employees are treated just like Christians in Nigeria.

85 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:08:59pm

re: #73 blueraven

Bullshit. It might not be directed at Wendy Davis specifically, but it is directed at women voters who tend to vote more for Democrats.

The misdirection is in the question. i’ve never seen a serious suggestion that it was aimed at Davis as an individual. She’s not even certain to be the candidate.

86 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:10:13pm

Yeah, speaking of weak-ass “fact-checking,” Glenn Kessler up to his MBFing as well, declaring that President Obama’s statements about people being able to keep their insurance if happy with it are worthy of Four Pinocchios.

His excuse? That even though the ACA does not order insurance companies to cancel policies and allows them to keep policies if they are exactly the same as written when the law took effect, the fact that insurance companies are canceling unprofitable or soon to be unprofitable policies is “proof” that he knowingly lied about people being able to keep their insurance.

87 Teukka  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:11:46pm

re: #36 Gus

Since we’re sharing RAF related stuffs…

German embassy hostage situation in Stockholm, 1975. The usual suspects (Baader-Meinhof / RAF). Raw news footage for state TV.

Youtube Video

88 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:13:26pm

re: #78 wrenchwench

Politifact would require a signed statement from the legislators who drafted the law that their intent was unconstitutional to conclude otherwise.

Plus the stupid timeline issue. So there’s a little campaign hyperbole in a fundraising letter.

The really stupid part is that all Politifact is doing here is clouding the issue. Disenfranchisement is a very real problem. The voter fraud measures like this are supposed to prevent is a fairytale.

Clouding the issue helps the disenfranchisers, not the potential voters. I think that’s evil.

We’ll know after the election but early results don’t indicate much in terms of voters being turned away. My guess is there will end up being very few if any legitimate claims of votes not being counted. I’m agnostic on voter ID laws and overblown claims of mass voter suppression and stolen elections aren’t swaying me.
Again, we’ll know more after the election.

89 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:15:00pm

re: #86 Targetpractice

Yeah, speaking of weak-ass “fact-checking,” Glenn Kessler up to his MBFing as well, declaring that President Obama’s statements about people being able to keep their insurance if happy with it are worthy of Four Pinocchios.

His excuse? That even though the ACA does not order insurance companies to cancel policies and allows them to keep policies if they are exactly the same as written when the law took effect, the fact that insurance companies are canceling unprofitable or soon to be unprofitable policies is “proof” that he knowingly lied about people being able to keep their insurance.

All the fact checkers rated that claim various shades of not true long ago. The fact that it’s still not true shouldn’t surprise anybody.

90 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:15:29pm

This whole voter fraud thing is a fraud itself.

91 Stanley Sea  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:17:00pm

I don’t think KT votes.

92 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:17:13pm

Politifact’s pundit checks are starting next week. They’re starting with the mainstream Sunday morning shows which I think is a bit of a cop out. Most of the over the top BS comes from the prime time partisan cable shows, but fact checking those shows is going to result in much outrage and hate mail.

93 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:17:57pm

re: #83 Lidane

True. There isn’t enough pepper spray for his usual standards of fail.

Maybe they can issue pepper spray to the white male legislators in Texas. That way they can deal with those uppity leftist wimmin’s he’s so scared of.

94 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:18:02pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

We’ll know after the election but early results don’t indicate much in terms of voters being turned away. My guess is there will end up being very few if any legitimate claims of votes not being counted. I’m agnostic on voter ID laws and overblown claims of mass voter suppression and stolen elections aren’t swaying me.
Again, we’ll know more after the election.

You mean after it’s to late to do anything about it and the crooks (Teapublicans) win.

95 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:19:18pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

Again, we’ll know more after the election.

Sure. AFTER the Texas GOP disenfranchises everyone that isn’t a white male.

96 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:19:26pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

We’ll know more after the patient is dead.

We had to destroy the election to save it.

Etc.

97 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:20:07pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

All the fact checkers rated that claim various shades of not true long ago. The fact that it’s still not true shouldn’t surprise anybody.

Only way I see it as a lie is if one believes that he was promising to freeze insurance policies as they were the moment the law passed.

98 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:21:01pm

re: #91 Stanley Sea

Even if he does, as a white male he’s got enough privilege to never notice the disenfranchisement efforts.

99 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:21:10pm

re: #96 William Barnett-Lewis

We’ll know more after the patient is dead.

We had to destroy the election to save it.

Etc.

It’s straight out of Ayn Rand. I had to blow up my own building to save it!

Waiting until AFTER an election to fight against blatant voter disenfranchisement is stupid.

100 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:22:40pm
101 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:23:33pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

We’ll know after the election but early results don’t indicate much in terms of voters being turned away. My guess is there will end up being very few if any legitimate claims of votes not being counted. I’m agnostic on voter ID laws and overblown claims of mass voter suppression and stolen elections aren’t swaying me.
Again, we’ll know more after the election.

I have seen genuine situations of voter intimidation, harassment, and discrimination. It pisses me off. Whether you think they are legitimate or not means nothing.

102 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:24:32pm

O_o

103 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:24:59pm

re: #100 Gus

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John, buddy, go home, you’re drunk.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:25:26pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

We’ll know after the election but early results don’t indicate much in terms of voters being turned away. My guess is there will end up being very few if any legitimate claims of votes not being counted. I’m agnostic on voter ID laws and overblown claims of mass voter suppression and stolen elections aren’t swaying me.
Again, we’ll know more after the election.

Soooo, what’s your explanation as to the sudden reason/validity for all of these new requirements for voter registration, especially for people who have been voting without a problem for years and decades?

gahhh…I’m too tired to even headdesk myself over this crappy logic.

105 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:25:45pm

re: #100 Gus

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Says the guy who got himself a blue checkmark so everyone would know it’s really him on social media. I bet he has a tattoo of it too.

106 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:26:33pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

Soooo, what’s your explanation as to the sudden reason/validity for all of these new requirements for voter registration, especially for people who have been voting without a problem for years and decades?

He’s a white guy. Voter ID and voter disenfranchsement don’t affect him personally, so who cares?

It’s dudebro logic.

107 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:28:22pm

Those guys claiming to be ancient astronaut theorists, they’re just messing with us right? Nobody can really be that stupid? They’re part of the joke?

Right? Help me out.

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:29:10pm

was a long day for me after a very stormy night…
nighters, lizards…

Image: 1451520_10202540300617411_1795170858_n.jpg

109 blueraven  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:29:32pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

We’ll know after the election but early results don’t indicate much in terms of voters being turned away. My guess is there will end up being very few if any legitimate claims of votes not being counted. I’m agnostic on voter ID laws and overblown claims of mass voter suppression and stolen elections aren’t swaying me.
Again, we’ll know more after the election.

Early results? What is there? There has not been an election yet with these laws in place. They are basing this on Early Voting in an off/off year election with not many voters.
Politifact should have held their opinion on this until after a real election.

110 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:32:13pm

re: #107 b.d.

Those guys claiming to be ancient astronaut theorists, they’re just messing with us right? Nobody can really be that stupid? They’re part of the joke?

Right? Help me out.

You mean like Erich von Däniken? Nah. They really are that stupid. It’s like the morons who think that the Earth is hollow or that dowsing is a real thing.

111 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:33:07pm
112 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:35:07pm

re: #110 Lidane

You mean like Erich von Däniken? Nah. They really are that stupid. It’s like the morons who think that the Earth is hollow or that dowsing is a real thing.

Yeah, I know quite a few of them. That particular bit of bunkum seems to popular with some younger Czechs here.

113 Lidane  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:36:00pm

re: #111 Gus

Oy. Naomi Wolf. I remember reading one of her books back in the 90’s. It was awful.

114 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:36:05pm

re: #111 Gus

Posted 50+ photos from last Saturday’s #StopWatchingUs march and rally:

For people who don’t want to be watched, they post a lot of photos on the inter-tubes.

115 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:36:59pm

re: #111 Gus

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lol

116 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:36:59pm
117 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:37:16pm

re: #110 Lidane

You mean like Erich von Däniken? Nah. They really are that stupid. It’s like the morons who think that the Earth is hollow or that dowsing is a real thing.

Dowsing is another thing! Those guys can’t believe their own BS?

And Ouiji Boards are made by that devil worshiping freakin’ HASBRO Corporation!

I really have a hard time believing people are that stupid, I must be getting played.

118 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:38:46pm

re: #117 b.d.

Dowsing is another thing! Those guys can’t believe their own BS?

And Ouiji Boards are made by that devil worshiping freakin’ HASBRO Corporation!

I really have a hard time believing people are that stupid, I must be getting played.

No, they really are that dumb. There’s a looooong video on YouTube called “Ancient Aliens Debunked” that does a good job of it, I must say.

Youtube Video

119 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:39:24pm

re: #111 Gus

*Head Desk*

120 blueraven  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:40:38pm

I guess the NC voter ID law wasn’t designed to disenfranchise Democratic voters either, even though it was admitted to by a Republican state official.

121 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:41:10pm

Texas GOP: Making it harder and harder for Young Republicans to get laid.

122 b.d.  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:42:49pm

re: #118 Dr Lizardo

No, they really are that dumb. There’s a looooong video on YouTube called “Ancient Aliens Debunked” that does a good job of it, I must say.

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I’m going to watch your video BUT

CHEMTRAILS….getting rid of CHEMTRAILS by squirting a spray bottle full of vinegar in their direction while standing in your back yard MILES away from them?!?!?!

C’mon?!?!?

123 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:44:55pm

re: #120 blueraven

I guess the NC voter ID law wasn’t designed to disenfranchise Democratic voters either, even though it was admitted to by a Republican state official.

Was there a signed, witnessed affidavit of the statement?

No?

PANTS ON FIRE!

124 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:46:52pm

re: #122 b.d.

I’m going to watch your video BUT

CHEMTRAILS….getting rid of CHEMTRAILS by squirting a spray bottle full of vinegar in their direction while standing in your back yard MILES away from them?!?!?!

C’mon?!?!?

Some folks will believe anything. As my late father once told me, “You can wrap a turd in tinfoil and someone out there will be stupid enough to buy it from you thinking it’s a candy bar.”

An adage to live by, sad to say.

125 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:52:07pm

Another whistleblower case:

126 wheat-dogghazi  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 5:54:21pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

Her own? Or someone else’s? And was it done quietly?

SShhh! This is a library!

127 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:08:29pm
128 theheat  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:13:26pm

re: #127 Gus

But our bullshit detectors are world class.

129 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:17:06pm
130 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:18:57pm

re: #129 wrenchwench

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Sick Bastards.

131 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:21:54pm

re: #82 Lidane

Clouding the issue (i.e., invoking the MBF) is KT’s entire raison d’être. He can’t exist in a world where one his side is clearly in the wrong.

FTFY.

132 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:24:57pm

Cute!

133 Shvaughn  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:26:44pm

re: #1 Kragar

Obviously a False Flag. His last name gives away the whole plot. CIA-N-CIA?

All too easy.
/

That was my joke!

134 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:27:48pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

Another whistleblower case:

Woman fired after reporting sex act in town library

What happens in the stacks stays in the stacks.

135 Gus  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:32:56pm
136 Shvaughn  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:33:46pm

re: #80 William Barnett-Lewis

I know but that one’s weak Trolling even by KT’s standards.

Trout will blatantly lie about what people say in order to make (fabricate) one of his points. He has no standards and no shame.

137 Shvaughn  Fri, Nov 1, 2013 6:34:21pm

re: #135 Gus

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Obviously planted on him post-arrest by TSA agents.

FALSE FLAG!

138 Jay C  Sat, Nov 2, 2013 10:48:05am

re: #127 Gus

Funniest Tweet of the Day: @SaintCian:Atheists have a scientifically proven brain dysfunction which stops them from understanding the Bible.

But why does it need to be “scientifically proven”? Shouldn’t faith-healing be good enough??


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