Report: LAX Shooter Purchased Guns Legally, Targeted TSA Agents

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The latest information on the news wires about LAX shooting suspect Paul Ciancia reveals that Ciancia went to the airport with the intention of killing as many TSA agents as possible. And he brought a lot of ammunition.

In court documents and interviews, authorities spelled out a chilling chain of events, saying Ciancia walked into the airport, pulled a .223-caliber assault rifle from his duffel bag and fired repeatedly at 39-year-old TSA officer Gerardo I. Hernandez. He turned back to see Hernandez move and returned to finish him off, according to surveillance video reviewed by investigators.

He then fired on two other uniformed TSA employees and an airline passenger, who all were wounded, as he moved methodically through the security checkpoint before airport police shot him as panicked travelers hid in stores and restaurants.

It wasn’t clear why Ciancia targeted TSA officers, but what he left behind indicated he was willing to kill any of them that crossed his path, authorities revealed.

The shooter’s duffel bag contained a handwritten letter signed by Ciancia stating he’d “made the conscious decision to try to kill” multiple TSA employees and that he wanted to “instill fear in their traitorous minds,” FBI Agent in Charge David L. Bowdich said.

“Black, white, yellow, brown, I don’t discriminate,” the note read, according to a paraphrase by a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

The screed also mentioned “fiat currency” and “NWO,” possible references to the New World Order, a conspiracy theory that foresees a totalitarian one-world government.

The letter also talked about “how easy it is to get a gun into the airport,” the law enforcement official said. When searched, the suspect had five 30-round magazines, and his bag contained hundreds more rounds in boxes.

“Fiat currency” and the “New World Order,” we should point out, are long-standing conspiracy theories out there on the fringe where the Alex Jones/Ron Paul libertarians dwell.

Another new detail: apparently, all the weapons carried by Ciancia were purchased legally.

Authorities believe the rifle used in the shooting was purchased in Los Angeles. Ciancia also had two additional handguns that he purchased in Los Angeles, but which weren’t at the crime scene, a law enforcement official said. The official, who has been briefed on the investigation, was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.

The purchases themselves appeared legal, although authorities were still tracing them, and it’s unclear if the shooter used his own identification or someone else’s, the official said.

“He didn’t buy them on the street. He didn’t buy them on the Internet,” the official said. “He bought them from a licensed gun dealer - the rifle and the two handguns.”

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383 comments
1 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:03:47pm

Given that the rifle was illegal under California law, I strongly question the report.

2 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:08:24pm

AR-15 style rifles can be legally owned in California. For example: atlanticfirearms.com

3 Botsplainer  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:11:17pm

Why do you hate Freedom, ‘Murka and the Troops? You must want the terrorists to win.

Somewhere out West, a sad, solitary eagle sheds a tear.

4 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:12:05pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

AR-15 style rifles can be legally owned in California. For example: atlanticfirearms.com

It takes a certain number of modifications to make it illegal. Of course most of those modifications can be made easily with kits.

5 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:12:43pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

AR-15 style rifles can be legally owned in California. For example: atlanticfirearms.com

Gun manufactures make some modifications for the California market, to address some easily-evaded requirements. One is the need to use a tool to change magazines—in reality that becomes a glove-like device with a ‘button’ to push a detent.

(Haven’t looked in a year or so, this could be dated.)

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:17:34pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

AR-15 style rifles can be legally owned in California. For example: atlanticfirearms.com

Yeah, but that one had a telescoping stock, a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine with the standard capacity of 30 rounds (as opposed to the reduced 10-round capacity mandated by California). I’m pretty sure that rifle configuration is illegal under California law.

7 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:19:33pm

So guns purchased legally from a licensed dealer, which means a background check, and still no reports that this fellow was believed to be suffering from mental illness. No wonder the wingnuts dropped this story like it was hot.

8 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:21:38pm

re: #7 Targetpractice

So guns purchased legally from a licensed dealer, which means a background check, and still no reports that this fellow was believed to be suffering from mental illness. No wonder the wingnuts dropped this story like it was hot.

This guy isn’t crazy, he’s just a hater. For his lethal act of hatred, he should be tried for 1st Degree Murder, and if convicted I believe he should be put to death.

9 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:22:39pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but that one had a telescoping stock, a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine with the standard capacity of 30 rounds (as opposed to the reduced 10-round capacity mandated by California). I’m pretty sure that rifle configuration is illegal under California law.

CA law allows 1-2 mods, up to a certain point. The magazines are not considered a mod to rifle, but are illegal on their own in CA. However you can buy them out of state, and can probably be found easily enough.

10 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:22:40pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

This guy isn’t crazy, he’s just a hater. For his lethal act of hatred, he should be tried for 1st Degree Murder, and if convicted I believe he should be put to death.

I was with you up til the execution part. Guy deserves to be put in a deep, dark hole and left there to rot. 23 years old? He’s gonna be sitting in that cell a LONG time.

11 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:22:56pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but that one had a telescoping stock, a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine with the standard capacity of 30 rounds (as opposed to the reduced 10-round capacity mandated by California). I’m pretty sure that rifle configuration is illegal under California law.

Dark, have a look at the site Charles linked to. You’ll fine one surprisingly similar to the one I’ve seen. It is far too simplistic to say “you can’t get an AR15 legally in CA”. It’s not even clear that it’s illegal to buy and own a 30 round mag.

12 jonhendry  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:24:26pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

The Atlantic Firearms site has CA-legal AR15s with everything but the large-capacity magazines.

I believe the pistol grip, etc, are all fine if the rifle has a way of interfering with rapidly changing magazines, hence the “bullet button” that requires a tool (or the tip of a bullet) to release the magazine. I don’t believe this changes the rifle in such a way as to make it incompatible with large-capacity AR magazines.

I think the only CA-illegal item is the 30-round magazines.

13 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:24:32pm

re: #11 GeneJockey

Dark, have a look at the site Charles linked to. You’ll fine one surprisingly similar to the one I’ve seen. It is far too simplistic to say “you can’t get an AR15 legally in CA”. It’s not even clear that it’s illegal to buy and own a 30 round mag.

I did look, and I also applied my understanding of the law and the picture I saw of the rifle in question. I stand by my conclusions.

14 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:25:18pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

This guy isn’t crazy, he’s just a hater. For his lethal act of hatred, he should be tried for 1st Degree Murder, and if convicted I believe he should be put to death.

I vote for death by biological decay (also known as life in prison) it’s cheaper, and actions can be taken to correct it in case somehow he is later proved to be innocent.

Okay there is not much chance at all of that in this case but you can’t have the law say “and we only give the death penalty to people who we are supper duper sure are guilty” so it is better to do without it in my opinion.

15 jonhendry  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:29:34pm

From the Wikipedia article on “AR-15s in California”:

Fixed-magazine Rifle: This style of rifle is made by combining an AR-15 upper receiver with an AR-15 lower receiver which has not been banned by specific name, and which has a fixed, non-detachable 10-round (maximum, anything above 10 is a felony) magazine. In such a configuration, otherwise prohibited features such as a telescoping stock, pistol grip, and flash hider may be present. While formerly prohibited under the now-expired federal assault weapon ban of 1994–2004, the presence of a bayonet lug is not prohibited by California state law and can be present on firearms without violation. However, the magazine cannot be detachable, so to load the rifle the shooter must either “top load” or use a tool to release the magazine lock (such as the tip of a bullet in “Bullet Button” equipped rifles). To top-load, the shooter pulls the rear takedown pin, hinges the upper receiver on the front pivot pin, and loads the now exposed magazine. Alternatively, several “magazine lock” devices are available which replace the magazine release button with an inset pin that requires the use of a special tool to release the magazine, thereby, disallowing a readily “detachable magazine”, to be compliant with California state firearms law.

16 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:29:41pm

Still gets me that virtually every mass shooter’s kit includes couple hundred rounds of ammo. Why? Because if I bought a couple hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate, the FBI would be at my door asking me questions about why I need that much fertilizer when I’m not a farmer, I have a planter box that’s shorter than my car, and I’ve nowhere to store that much fertilizer at one time. But buy a few hundred rounds? Shit, government couldn’t care less, obviously you must have some legal reason to be stockpiling enough ammunition to supply a small army.

17 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:31:27pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

Still gets me that virtually every mass shooter’s kit includes couple hundred rounds of ammo. Why? Because if I bought a couple hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate, the FBI would be at my door asking me questions about why I need that much fertilizer when I’m not a farmer, I have a planter box that’s shorter than my car, and I’ve nowhere to store that much fertilizer at one time. But buy a few hundred rounds? Shit, government couldn’t care less, obviously you must have some legal reason to be stockpiling enough ammunition to supply a small army.

I all in a favor of everyone having a gun, but it’s the bullets I really want the government to clamp down on controlling…

(I think there’s some comedian bit along those lines)

18 Lidane  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:31:49pm

re: #8 Dark_Falcon

This guy isn’t crazy, he’s just a hater. For his lethal act of hatred, he should be tried for 1st Degree Murder, and if convicted I believe he should be put to death.

Killing him makes him a martyr for the other haters. Fuck that. Toss him into a solitary cell and lose the key.

19 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:32:14pm

Hiya Lizards!
Just checking in from a motel on the way back to Oklahoma. I’ve been moving to the new home and am really jacked up!
I have never been happier in my life. I love, love, love my new place. I took a year long search to find paradise after my folks passed and I got the check from insurance.
Now is the time..Winston and I return to Oklahoma to tie up details and grab some more clothes before returning to God’s Country.
I did good lizards..I didn’t blow the check..I bought a place in Paradise.. With cash. Early retirement up north with my boat.
Cheers
/ Winston! Grab me a beer..I’m celebrating! Winston! ??
Useless dog…
Winston!

20 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:33:02pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

I all in a favor of everyone having a gun, but it’s the bullets I really want the government to clamp down on controlling…

(I think there’s some comedian bit along those lines)

“Guns don’t kill people, its those little fucking things that come out of them.”

21 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:33:17pm

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Hugs to you, maybe not Winston, though….
(((HH)))

22 Lidane  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:33:36pm

re: #17 jamesfirecat

I all in a favor of everyone having a gun, but it’s the bullets I really want the government to clamp down on controlling…

(I think there’s some comedian bit along those lines)

Youtube Video

23 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:34:05pm

[rant]

Let me say first off that this isn’t directed at anyone in particular; I was born blue and I’ll die blue. If I were still a Virginia resident, I would gladly stand in line to vote for Terry McAuliffe, because — well, you know.

A couple days ago I got an e-mail from the Democratic Party of Virginia, encouraging me to kick in $10 to send the troops in the trenches pizza.

I want to also say I have the utmost respect for the folks getting out the vote . They work long hours for little or no pay, and I could see pizza night while the returns come in being a lot of fun.

I understand it’s selfish to feel this way, but believe me — when circumstances once again allow for it, I’ll contribute to various Democratic candidates and campaigns as I am able.

But Terry McAuliffe is worth millions, while I am worth…several dollars less than that.

Let him buy the fucking pizza.

[/rant]

24 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:34:07pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but that one had a telescoping stock, a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine with the standard capacity of 30 rounds (as opposed to the reduced 10-round capacity mandated by California). I’m pretty sure that rifle configuration is illegal under California law.

Cali, NJ & MA all get stocks that look like they retract but are fixed length. There are ways around the button bit and until January 1 it’s still legal to get parts kits that “repair” those 10 round magazines back to 30 round capacity.

25 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:35:43pm

And your phone might ring….

26 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:36:18pm

re: #24 William Barnett-Lewis

Cali, NJ & MA all get stocks that look like they retract but are fixed length. There are ways around the button bit and until January 1 it’s still legal to get parts kits that “repair” those 10 round magazines back to 30 round capacity.

And anyone with the slightest bit of mechanical ability can get a kit to swap out the stock.

27 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:37:53pm

re: #21 Dancing along the light of day

Hugs to you, maybe not Winston, though….
(((HH)))

Hi you! Time has come..Moving forward.. Finally this year..I’m a happy boy..
Hope today finds you well

28 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:38:44pm

re: #18 Lidane

Killing him makes him a martyr for the other haters. Fuck that. Toss him into a solitary cell and lose the key.

He’s a data treasury. We need these people alive and teaching us how to understand and prevent their damage. (Left/Right really doesn’t work here. It might be much more about alienated—integrated.)

29 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:39:46pm

re: #15 jonhendry

Remember that the rifle in question clearly did have a detachable magazine.

30 jonhendry  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:39:47pm

re: #26 Kragar

“And anyone with the slightest bit of mechanical ability can get a kit to swap out the stock.”

Which is to say, anyone who can strip and clean an AR-15 without losing parts or putting it back together wrong.

31 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:40:14pm

re: #27 HoosierHoops

All is well, except, I lost your number :(

32 HoosierHoops  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:41:08pm

re: #31 Dancing along the light of day

All is well, except, I lost your number :(

Cool Hon..Give me about 5 min. and I’ll call you

33 jonhendry  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:41:42pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Yes, the magazine can be detachable if there’s a minor obstacle to ejecting it, such as the “bullet button”, which requires a tool to operate rather than just using a finger. It’s silly, but that’s the law. It’s not so much that the magazine can’t be detachable, it just can’t be “readily” detachable.

34 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:42:02pm

re: #18 Lidane

Killing him makes him a martyr for the other haters. Fuck that. Toss him into a solitary cell and lose the key.

I don’t care if they see him as a martyr, I still say he should be executed. A shitbird like this shouldn’t be breathing.

35 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:50:06pm

re: #19 HoosierHoops

Congratulations! Enjoy!

36 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 6:52:51pm

re: #23 BongCrodny

[rant]

Let me say first off that this isn’t directed at anyone in particular; I was born blue and I’ll die blue. If I were still a Virginia resident, I would gladly stand in line to vote for Terry McAuliffe, because — well, you know.

A couple days ago I got an e-mail from the Democratic Party of Virginia, encouraging me to kick in $10 to send the troops in the trenches pizza.

I want to also say I have the utmost respect for the folks getting out the vote . They work long hours for little or no pay, and I could see pizza night while the returns come in being a lot of fun.

I understand it’s selfish to feel this way, but believe me — when circumstances once again allow for it, I’ll contribute to various Democratic candidates and campaigns as I am able.

But Terry McAuliffe is worth millions, while I am worth…several dollars less than that.

Let him buy the fucking pizza.

[/rant]

I have a long standing policy about not gifting my money to millionaires. It’s really absurd when you think about it. With all the bitching about rich people using their privilege, taking advantage of us and running the coutry but we think nothing of giving them our money to do it. Many, if not most, partisans would consider it an obligation.

37 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:00:29pm

re: #36 Killgore Trout

I have a long standing policy about not gifting my money to millionaires. It’s really absurd when you think about it. With all the bitching about rich people using their privilege, taking advantage of us and running the coutry but we think nothing of giving them our money to do it. Many, if not most, partisans would consider it an obligation.

Let me know when a pauper runs.

38 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:02:01pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Let me know when a pauper runs.

And when a partisan calls it an OBLIGATION to give money to rich people who are running for office while you’re at it.

39 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:05:33pm

re: #38 bratwurst

And when a partisan calls it an OBLIGATION to give money to rich people who are running for office while you’re at it.

I don’t consider giving money to opponents of TPGOP an obligation—it’s more like protection money. La mordita.

40 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:06:21pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but that one had a telescoping stock, a pistol grip, and a detachable magazine with the standard capacity of 30 rounds (as opposed to the reduced 10-round capacity mandated by California). I’m pretty sure that rifle configuration is illegal under California law.

As long as it was sold with a bullet button it’s legal here.

41 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:08:00pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

Remember that the rifle in question clearly >did have a detachable magazine.

Yeah, and bullet button releases are legal. That’s why they sell gloves with the activating tab sewn on, it’s a ridiculously easy workaround.

42 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:11:27pm

*HEADDESK*
Dear Mrs. Libertas: EMTALA is not what you, or Mitt Romney think it is.

43 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:14:10pm

re: #13 Dark_Falcon

I did look, and I also applied my understanding of the law and the picture I saw of the rifle in question. I stand by my conclusions.

Your conclusions are simply wrong. As long as the gun had a bullet button release and the overall length was ≥ 26” at the shortest stock configuration it was and is legal to sell in CA. As others have noted the magazine repair kits are also legal to purchase. Yes, the guy illegally modified the mags, but there’s no way to stop people from acquiring the kits until a new law goes into effect next year.

44 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:14:23pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Let me know when a pauper runs.

Mike Michaud, the 2014 Democratic nominee for the Maine governorship, has a net worth of ~ $400,000.

In political terms, that’s practically a pauper.

45 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:16:37pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

*HEADDESK*
Dear Mrs. Libertas: EMTALA is not what you, or Mitt Romney think it is.

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If buying health insurance was a responsibility prior to ACA then how were sole proprietorship owners who had pre-existing conditions but had no employees expected to fulfill it?

Republicans talk a good game about supporting small business, but they have a shit record when it comes to actually doing it.

46 Bubblehead II  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:18:45pm

Night Lizards. May the Deity of your choice smile down upon you and yours.

Youtube Video

47 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:28:52pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

I don’t care if they see him as a martyr, I still say he should be executed. A shitbird like this shouldn’t be breathing.

It’s costs more to execute than to imprison for life. It keeps the asshole’s name in the papers with every new appeal and ruling, then upon execution the death penalty seeks to sweep the entire incident into the past. Also, to whatever even minuscule degree it turns the killer into a sympathetic figure, a victim in their own right, that too is an injustice.

Basically it’s just a fucking stupid, counterproductive thing for a modern, advanced society to perpetuate.

48 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:29:43pm

Former U.S. house speaker Jim Wright denied voting ID in Texas

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported Sunday that former House Speaker Jim Wright was denied a voter ID card Saturday at a Texas Department of Public Safety office.

Wright, 90, served in Congress as a Democratic representative from Texas for 34 years, until resigning in 1989. Wright said he had voted in every election since 1944.

Wright went to the DPS office with an assistant to get a State of Texas Election Identification Certificate. His existing photo identifications — a Texas driver’s license that expired in 2010 and a Texas Christian University faculty ID — did not satisfy requirements of the voter ID law, he told the Star-Telegram.

Wright plans to return to the office Monday with a certified copy of his birth certificate, which the DPS employees say will entitle him to a Texas personal identification card, designed specifically for people who do not drive.

49 missliberties  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:35:41pm

Libertarianism poisons everything. Yes it does.

50 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:39:37pm

re: #42 Vicious Babushka

Yea, such great healthcare it is. You come in for something and I notice your blood pressure is really high, I’ll try to get you into the (booked solid for months) clinics, and might give you a short-term prescription that you likely won’t fill. I’ll see you in a few years after the giant stroke that lands in you the ICU for a month with all the associated (utterly preventable) costs, both monetary and human.

But you’re right, everyone has a right to that.

51 Lidane  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:39:52pm
53 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:46:12pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Report: NSA Among Worst Offenders of Mass Surveillance, Snowden Says

I confess I’m curious where he gets the data to do the comparison. Did he work for any OTHER intelligence agencies?

I mean before this, not his current gig with the FSB.

54 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:47:53pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Report: NSA Among Worst Offenders of Mass Surveillance, Snowden Says

Ignorant dupe says what?

55 Lidane  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:51:46pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

Report: NSA Among Worst Offenders of Mass Surveillance, Snowden Says

Yeah, because he’s such a reliable source.

56 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:51:56pm

re: #19 HoosierHoops

I’m now in Oklahoma. Come on by before you go.

57 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:54:27pm
“Anyone pronouncing the truth is committing no crime,” Snowden wrote.

The truth is leaking classified information is a crime.

58 bratwurst  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:54:42pm
59 gwangung  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 7:55:41pm

re: #57 Kragar

The truth is leaking classified information is a crime.

And while leaking trade secrets may not be a crime, you will certainly be hit upside the head with a nice fat civil case.

60 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:00:04pm

re: #58 bratwurst

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61 sagehen  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:01:25pm

Walking Dead.

Daryl’s going to be *pissed* when he hears what Rick did.

62 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:01:44pm

So according to Snowden, if I work for a company, take their data and publish it online, its not a crime, because its true.

You’ve got to be really smart to be that dumb.

63 Lidane  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:01:59pm

re: #59 gwangung

And while leaking trade secrets may not be a crime, you will certainly be hit upside the head with a nice fat civil case.

Actually, stealing and leaking trade secrets IS a crime:

law.cornell.edu

And it will bring companies together in unlikely ways:

Trade secret plot pulls Coke, Pepsi together

64 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:03:47pm

re: #62 Kragar

Youtube Video

65 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:18:23pm

I think it’s fascinating that American society has seemingly come to accept the idea of rampage shootings as just some mundane event that sometimes happens.

66 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:19:10pm

re: #54 Kragar

Ignorant dupe Honorless filth says what?

Fixed.

67 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:19:59pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon

Fixed.

Why can’t he be both?

68 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:25:49pm

re: #67 Kragar

Why can’t he be both?

‘Dupe’ implies ignorance I don’t think was extant here. Unlike a dupe, Edward Snowden acted with malice aforethought.

69 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:36:43pm

And let’s not forget the harm done by the shenanigans of Snowden’s other buddy, Julian Assange:

November 3, 2013: The commander of an American helicopter gunship unit whose troops were pilloried in the media in 2010 for “murdering civilians” has now (since he is retired) gone public with his side of this story. The retired commander pointed out that the U.S. Army did conduct an investigation and cleared any of the helicopter crews of any crimes. The helicopter battalion involved had carried out over 5,200 missions in Afghanistan and Iraq, of which only 314 involved firing on ground targets. That’s five percent of the missions involve weapons, which is meant to refute the charge that his helicopter crews were “trigger happy”. The commander also pointed out details which are obvious in the video and indicate that there were clear indications that everyone down there was a hostile.

This all began back in 2010 when web sites began showing a leaked American AH-64 helicopter gunship video that showed a two man Reuters camera crew, operating with Iraqi terrorists. The helicopter crew did not know there were journalists down there, in the middle of the night. The Iraqi gunmen and the journalists were killed, and many accused the Americans of murdering the journalists. To make the point, some web site operators added markers on the video to make their case. The assertion was that all those killed were innocent civilians. At one point in the video a van rolled up to try and retrieve a wounded gunman and was itself shot up. There were children in the van, although they survived. But this was not the whole story, as the web site ignored a lot of other stuff that was going on.

First, some of the men in the video were clearly carrying weapons. Moreover, terrorists were often accompanied by a camera crew of their own so that the attack on American or Iraqi forces could be photographed, for use in propaganda videos (to attract recruits, and other support.) The web site also did not mention the fact that there was a firefight (between terrorists and U.S. troops) going on a hundred meters away from the armed Iraqi civilians being observed by the AH-64 and that the audio on the video had the helicopter crew clearly interpreting what they saw as weapons, not camera equipment.

The mass media generally went along with the “it was murder” line, while more knowledgeable journalists and military personnel pointed out the fact that this was a legitimate combat operation, and that the journalists (who were not in the employ of the terrorists) were being very foolish to accompany armed terrorists on a combat mission.

70 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:37:26pm

re: #58 bratwurst

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I just want it to be over with. I’m no fan of McAuliffe, but seeing Cucci lose, even if not by a two digit margin, will at least put my mind at ease for awhile. Of course, you can be sure that no matter how wide a margin he loses by, it will still be declared a “victory” because of earlier predictions. “Turnout was strong!” will go the cry.

71 Eventual Carrion  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:40:18pm

re: #37 Decatur Deb

Let me know when a pauper runs.

A mere $10,000.00 entry fee.

72 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:40:37pm

re: #65 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think it’s fascinating that American society has seemingly come to accept the idea of rampage shootings as just some mundane event that sometimes happens.

Well, there are fewer Sioux villages to shoot up.

73 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:41:51pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

Voter Fraud!! ACORN!

74 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:42:58pm

re: #65 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think it’s fascinating that American society has seemingly come to accept the idea of rampage shootings as just some mundane event that sometimes happens.

At this point, I think most people have come to accept that there’s just no chance of anything being done about it. Even universal background checks ultimately fell victim to the millions of dollars that the small arms industry can throw at politicians.

75 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:43:53pm

re: #73 Decatur Deb

Voter Fraud!! ACORN!

Yeah, that’s another one we’ll expect to hear, that Cucci didn’t lose, Democrats were just more successful at rigging the election. Stories about “dead voters” popping up, boxes of ballots mysteriously showing up in NoVa, and so forth.

76 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:49:15pm

re: #74 Targetpractice

At this point, I think most people have come to accept that there’s just no chance of anything being done about it. Even universal background checks ultimately fell victim to the millions of dollars that the small arms industry can throw at politicians.

But the last two guys we saw make the news both went through background checks (though its not confirmed in the second case) and came back clean. Background checks can do useful work stopping criminals, but when the person in question simply hated the government they are far less useful.

Moreover, this Ciancia turd didn’t need a rifle to do what he did. He handguns would have been enough.

77 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:55:03pm
78 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:55:34pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

But the last two guys we saw make the news both went through background checks (though its not confirmed in the second case) and came back clean. Background checks can do useful work stopping criminals, but when the person in question simply hated the government they are far less useful.

Moreover, this Ciancia turd didn’t need a rifle to do what he did. He handguns would have been enough.

My point was that universal background checks, which enjoyed 70-90% support, depending on who you asked, went nowhere because the political will just does not exist anymore. I attributed that to lobbying by manufacturers, but really I should say that what was the tipping point this time around as opposed to two decades ago with Assault Weapons Ban, is that the influx of “true believers” into the GOP ranks has killed any suggestion of compromise on the subject of gun control.

79 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:56:20pm

re: #77 Eclectic Cyborg

This is cool:

Artist marries Star Wars images to Thomas Kinkade paintings

And hilarious.

80 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:58:07pm

re: #76 Dark_Falcon

But the last two guys we saw make the news both went through background checks (though its not confirmed in the second case) and came back clean. Background checks can do useful work stopping criminals, but when the person in question simply hated the government they are far less useful.

Moreover, this Ciancia turd didn’t need a rifle to do what he did. He handguns would have been enough.

None of which is an argument against universal background checks. Drunk driver laws don’t do much to stop the legions of sober assholes, but that doesn’t diminish the societal problem that they address.

Ciancia was a lone wolf. Case by case they’re unpredictable but on the macro scale they’re very purposefully put in motion by stochastic terrorists.

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:00:30pm

re: #77 Eclectic Cyborg

This is cool:

Artist marries Star Wars images to Thomas Kinkade paintings

From the links:

http://laughingsquid.com/massive-size-comparison-chart-of-famous-sci-fi-spaceships-from-films-tv-shows-games/

Whatever your SciFi passion, you’ll find some of its space ships here.

82 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:10:11pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

From the links:

http://laughingsquid.com/massive-size-comparison-chart-of-famous-sci-fi-spaceships-from-films-tv-shows-games/

Whatever your SciFi passion, you’ll find some of its space ships here.

You never really realize just how small a nearly 800 meter Sovereign class starship is until you compare it to those behemoths that the Galactic Empire builds. Methinks the Emperor is compensating for something.

83 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:12:11pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

From the links:

http://laughingsquid.com/massive-size-comparison-chart-of-famous-sci-fi-spaceships-from-films-tv-shows-games/

Whatever your SciFi passion, you’ll find some of its space ships here.

They left off Abaddon the Despoiler’s Plantkiller and the Black Stone Fortresses.

84 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:13:20pm

re: #83 Kragar

They left off Abaddon the Despoiler’s Plantkiller and the Black Stone Fortresses.

Orders from the Inquisition. Such orders are not to be questioned, simply obeyed.

85 GlutenFreeJesus  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:15:23pm

re: #16 Targetpractice

Still gets me that virtually every mass shooter’s kit includes couple hundred rounds of ammo. Why? Because if I bought a couple hundred pounds of ammonium nitrate, the FBI would be at my door asking me questions about why I need that much fertilizer when I’m not a farmer, I have a planter box that’s shorter than my car, and I’ve nowhere to store that much fertilizer at one time. But buy a few hundred rounds? Shit, government couldn’t care less, obviously you must have some legal reason to be stockpiling enough ammunition to supply a small army.

In all fairness, it’s easy to go through a few hundred rounds with just one trip to the range. I myself an guilty of that more often than not.

Ammonium nitrate on the other hand…

86 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:15:41pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

I see no TARDIS either. Neither the outside or inside of it.

87 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:16:03pm

re: #82 Targetpractice

You never really realize just how small a nearly 800 meter Sovereign class starship is until you compare it to those behemoths that the Galactic Empire builds. Methinks the Emperor is compensating for something.

Well, his Dark Side powers ravage his body from the inside out (as was shown in Revenge of the Sith), so it stands to reason his penis was often shriveled. Though Palpatine had clone bodies to hand into which he could transfer his consciousness.

88 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:16:19pm

re: #70 Targetpractice

I just want it to be over with. I’m no fan of McAuliffe, but seeing Cucci lose, even if not by a two digit margin, will at least put my mind at ease for awhile. Of course, you can be sure that no matter how wide a margin he loses by, it will still be declared a “victory” because of earlier predictions. “Turnout was strong!” will go the cry.

I’m with you. I can’t wait for it to be over. I just want Cucci to be beaten and this stupid “The more conservative candidate is always better” myth put to rest. This will be the first time in generations that Virginia hasn’t elected a governor of the opposite party of the president’s following a presidential election. I just want to see the egg on the Va GOP’s face when it hits them that they lost an election to Terry McAuliffe who is honestly the most unlikable person I’ve ever seen run for governor here on the Dem ticket.

89 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:16:42pm

re: #86 ProTARDISLiberal

I see no TARDIS either. neither the outside or inside of it.

It’s debatable as to whether a TARDIS truly qualifies as a starship.

90 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:17:40pm

re: #86 ProTARDISLiberal

I see no TARDIS either. neither the outside or inside of it.

It may be too small to feature. How large is a TARDIS?

91 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:17:52pm

re: #87 Dark_Falcon

Well, his Dark Side powers ravage his body from the inside out (as was shown in Revenge of the Sith), so it stands to reason his penis was often shriveled. Though Palpatine had clone bodies to hand into which he could transfer his consciousness.

“Dark Side.” *sniff* Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no matter for a quantum torpedo barrage.

92 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:17:55pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

It travels through space AND time.

So it is a spaceship. And a timeship.

LIke Hurricane Sandy was a Hurricane, Nor’easter, and Blizzard at once.

93 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:18:58pm

re: #92 ProTARDISLiberal

It travels through space AND time.

So it is a spaceship. And a timeship.

LIke Hurricane Sandy was a Hurricane, Nor’easter, and Blizzard at once.

Point taken.

94 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:19:38pm

re: #88 HappyWarrior

I’m with you. I can’t wait for it to be over. I just want Cucci to be beaten and this stupid “The more conservative candidate is always better” myth put to rest. This will be the first time in generations that Virginia hasn’t elected a governor of the opposite party of the president’s following a presidential election. I just want to see the egg on the Va GOP’s face when it hits them that they lost an election to Terry McAuliffe who is honestly the most unlikable person I’ve ever seen run for governor here on the Dem ticket.

You should approach the election with fear and determination. Scare the other Dems with our demon doll—Martha Coakley.

95 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:20:14pm

re: #89 Targetpractice

It’s debatable as to whether a TARDIS truly qualifies as a starship.

Yes, but they also had the Krenim Imperium Temporal Incursion Ship from Voyager. That one also was capable of being outside of normal space-time.

96 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:21:26pm

re: #94 Decatur Deb

You should approach the election with fear and determination. Scare the other Dems with our demon doll—Martha Coakley.

Well Scott Brown actually lived on the planet earth. And honestly, Cucci is more like a Republican Martha Coakley than Terry Mac a Coakley. I mean this is a guy who’s alienated many Republican business owners here in Northern Va with his unhealthy obsession with sex, abortion, and gays.

97 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:21:47pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

“Dark Side.” *sniff* Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no matter for a quantum torpedo barrage.

[The torpedoes all detonate short of their target.]

I find your lack of faith disturbing….

98 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:24:38pm

Dwell on this while we sleep in the East:


‘The Gospel According To Britney!’ New musical tells the story of Jesus Christ through Spears’ pop songs

dailymail.co.uk

‘Nite, all.

99 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:24:42pm

And while they do have the Kroot Warspheres, they left off the Tau Ta’Shiro and Kor’shuto class ships.

100 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:26:43pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

And if you like the ships chart, please upding me for it. I earned it.

101 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:27:32pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Dwell on this while we sleep in the East:


‘The Gospel According To Britney!’ New musical tells the story of Jesus Christ through Spears’ pop songs

dailymail.co.uk

‘Nite, all.

Oops I did it again is obviously about the resurrection of Christ.

102 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:28:52pm

re: #101 HappyWarrior

Oops I did it again is obviously about the resurrection of Christ.

“I Don’t Know How to Twerk Him.”

103 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:29:56pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Dwell on this while we sleep in the East:


‘The Gospel According To Britney!’ New musical tells the story of Jesus Christ through Spears’ pop songs

dailymail.co.uk

‘Nite, all.

*facepalm*

104 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:44:19pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb


‘The Gospel According To Britney!’ New musical tells the story of Jesus Christ through Spears’ pop songs

dailymail.co.uk

I wonder if she’ll tackle the whole Wife of Jesus issue?

105 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:50:31pm

re: #102 Decatur Deb

It’s been done in many different ways before…

MP3 Audio

106 piratedan  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:02:33pm

re: #98 Decatur Deb

Dwell on this while we sleep in the East:


‘The Gospel According To Britney!’ New musical tells the story of Jesus Christ through Spears’ pop songs

dailymail.co.uk

‘Nite, all.

I’ll wait for the inevitable follow up of The Book of Mormon as told via the songs of Milli Vanilli ////

107 Kragar  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:04:44pm

re: #106 piratedan

I’ll wait for the inevitable follow up of The Book of Mormon as told via the songs of Milli Vanilli ////

Limp Bizkit presents the teachings of Buddha.

108 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:10:10pm

Miley Cyrus presents Kama Sutra - the Musical.

Oh… wait… it’s already been done…

109 piratedan  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:11:12pm

re: #107 Kragar

Limp Bizkit presents the teachings of Buddha.

The Tao of Squirrel Nut Zippers…..

110 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:16:24pm

The Mystic Knights of Oingo Boingo
do Catholicism!

111 Aqua Obama  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:32:06pm

Congressional No-Show at ‘Heart-Breaking’ Drone Survivor Hearing

Republicans moan about drones, but don’t bother to show up on a hearing about them.

112 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:37:15pm

Let me go on record stating that the newly rounded version of my avatar clashes with the original aesthetic intent.

113 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 11:06:12pm

Send me more money so I can feed my ginormous ego.

Julian Assange would lead WikiLeaks ticket in WA Senate byelection

Read more: smh.com.au

“Assange contested a Victorian senate spot for his WikiLeaks Party in September and attracted almost 41,700 primary votes out of 3.5 million.

“But the WikiLeaks lead candidate in WA, Gerry Georgatos, says Assange would head the party’s ticket instead if a byelection was held.

“This would allow West Australians to “remedy the injustice of Julian Assange not being elected to the Senate” in the Victorian contest.”

Dudebro can’t take a hint that he can’t win—ever?

114 Dancing along the light of day  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 11:06:24pm

re: #112 freetoken

So, you have some work to do!

115 freetoken  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 11:59:57pm

re: #114 Dancing along the light of day

I want my corners back.

116 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:04:15am

As part of my work on my genealogy I’ve come across what seems like a never-ending ocean of scams and misdirection.

It’s almost as bad as “financial” outlets and gold buggery.

The general take-away is that people are easily fooled by hawkers of “DNA” proof, or “meanings of names”, and of course there is that always desirable Cherokee Princess ancestor which can be proven with a fancy certificate mailed to you for the right price.

We really need to make as part of our foundational primary education curricula the key concepts of human evolution, DNA, genomics, and the like.

117 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:07:45am

re: #49 missliberties

Libertarianism Anarchy poisons everything. Yes it does.

FTFY.

Libertarianism is a marketing ploy, a rebranding, nothing more.

118 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:10:55am

re: #65 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think it’s fascinating that American society has seemingly come to accept the idea of rampage shootings as just some mundane event that sometimes happens.

It’s the religion known as America. Like the Aztec religion it requires frequent infusions of blood in order for the structure of the Universe to be maintained.

119 Kragar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:11:31am

re: #116 freetoken

I have it on good authority that I am the direct descendant of the Czarina of Tokyo.

120 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:19:45am

Here’s another version of the story featured.

Roommate Dropped Off Alleged LAX Gunman: Sources

nbclosangeles.com

“One victim, a man, remained in critical condition. Another victim, Brian Ludmer, a teacher at Calabasas High School, remains in fair condition but faces at least one additional surgery for a fractured leg, along with extensive physical therapy, according to Mark Wheeler, Senior Media Relations Rep at UCLA Health Sciences Media Relations.

“He was waiting for a flight when he was shot in the leg and then dragged himself to a closet, where he hid until he heard a police officer outside the door.

“Another patient was believed to have been taken to Marina del Rey Hospital. A third shooting victim was treated at released Friday afternoon, said Wheeler.”

The consequences of one’s actions in a case like this always have a ripple effect on others, yet these ego-driven actors must satisfy their own needs ahead of society’s by committing these egregious acts. I am not pro-death penalty, but this guy should suffer the most severe penalties otherwise that the courts can throw at him, and so should such others, until people begin to understand that their “rights” are limited, not all encompassing to do as they alone please, and they must always be in balance with society and the tandem rights, also, of the collection of individuals in which we live. Some political thinking would have us abandon that. The law doesn’t allow you to abuse your children just because you think you “own” them, for example, or you can’t blast your stereo at full volume whenever you please and disturb your neighbors. We don’t live in Somalia or any other lawless country and if we accept the responsibilities of our rights, to ourselves and to others, we never will. We either civilize ourselves or revert to primitive behavior, becoming a nation of sociopaths, with deadly results.

Another paragraph said that the note in the suspect’s duffel bag mentioned how easy it is to get a gun, not simply how easy it was to get one into the airport, so there are at least 2 conflicting statements from 2 news sources, but other aspects of the stories seem to mesh.

121 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:21:35am

This may sound harsh to some, but I really do wonder if the dominance of magical religions in the US makes our society more prone to be susceptible to scams.

This would be true of course of not just the US but anywhere where magic (often as part of “religion”) is commonly taught as being real.

122 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:21:51am
123 Kragar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:28:35am
124 Lidane  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:40:30am

re: #61 sagehen

Walking Dead.

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I’m amazed by this, but one of the most salient points about tonight’s episdoe was made by Chris Jericho on Talking Dead. He pointed out that several characters let go of things in their lives or were encouraged to let go of them by others.

Also,

It actually took me a minute to realize that Rick was banishing Carol and leaving her behind. I didn’t expect that at all. I just figured he was sizing her up alone for the inevitable confrontation at the prison between Carol and everyone else over her actions.

125 Kragar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 1:33:11am
126 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 2:22:51am
127 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 2:40:23am

re: #123 Kragar

[Embedded content]

If they replied in English, that was quite a cunning stunt.

128 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 2:52:22am

It’s everywhere, I have no doubt about it, in some form or another. What kind of fucking privileged mind gives these bastards the right to do this?

This is sick, sick, sick.

New Zealand police probe claims of online ‘rape club’

google.com

“The group, calling themselves “Roast Busters” and mostly reportedly aged in their late teens, bragged about using social media to meet girls as young as 13 then have sex with them after plying them with drinks, TV3 reported.

“It said the men named their alleged victims in videos posted on a Facebook page, which was taken down over the weekend after it was the subject of media inquiries.

“One underage girl, her identity obscured, told the television station that the group preyed on her after giving her so much alcohol she kept blacking out.”

Neither young girls nor women should be captive objects of men and boys’ out of control power trips and assaults on their bodies, in whatever form. Those criminals, if there is any justice, should lose every other privilege they also thought they were entitled to and be jailed. Don’t let them prey on other girls.

129 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 3:01:25am

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

Oh, and this comment shows the kind of thinking that girls are developing about this, too. No, dear, you didn’t have “sex”. You weren’t enjoying it—it was being forced on you in a display of power over you. They fed you alcohol so that you lost any control you might have had in the situation. You could have died. And yes, it was rape.

“One underage girl, her identity obscured, told the television station that the group preyed on her after giving her so much alcohol she kept blacking out.

“You could say I got raped. I had sex with three guys at one time,” she said.”

130 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 3:04:53am

It’s 7:04am, not 6:04am!

131 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 3:05:42am

re: #129 Justanotherhuman

I had a girlfriend who fell into a situation like that…and because she was not supposed to be out in the woods with three guys in the first place, she could not turn to her family for help for fear of getting into trouble with them…

But of course, the entire school knew about it (and this in the days before social media).

132 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 3:50:56am

And does it in China.

Google’s Eric Schmidt criticizes US National Security Agency over spying allegations

online.wsj.com

He’s going to Cuba next.

But freedoms! Business trumps them.

133 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 3:53:25am

Russian nationalists march in Moscow. White Russians, of course.

134 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 4:11:27am

re: #132 Justanotherhuman

And does it in China.

Google’s Eric Schmidt criticizes US National Security Agency over spying allegations

online.wsj.com

He’s going to Cuba next.

But freedoms! Business trumps them.

Google is paying far more attention to me and you than is NSA.

135 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 4:12:11am

re: #134 Decatur Deb

Google is paying far more attention to me and you than is NSA.

Oh the irony.

136 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 4:14:42am

re: #135 Varek Raith

Oh the irony.

Monday is launder-y day at our house. iron-y is Tuesday.

137 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 4:50:01am

Good to see CNN going down the BENGHAZIIIIIIII route.
/

139 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 4:59:32am

re: #138 Varek Raith

A bit of a white elephant, IMO.

140 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:03:20am

I remember when the first “stealth” ship sailed into San Diego harbor. Freaky looking for a ship, but the radar cross section is much less.

The DD(X) sucked up money left and right.

It may never be battle tested, and if it ever is it may prove to be a waste of money.

However, it played well into the egos of the military industrial establishment.

The much less sexy areas of ASW and anti-mine warfare would probably had been a better expenditure of money, for the future of the US Navy.

141 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:10:20am

re: #111 Aqua Obama

No downding but Republicans were right to stay away from that briefing. It was organized by that asshole Alan Grayson and basically served to lambast the CIA, the Air Force, and the executive branch in general as thoughtless killers.

The GOP was correct in not attending such a briefing.

142 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:16:19am

re: #138 Varek Raith

Are its powerplant and busses designed for railguns?

143 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:16:38am

re: #140 freetoken

I remember when the first “stealth” ship sailed into San Diego harbor. Freaky looking for a ship, but the radar cross section is much less.

The DD(X) sucked up money left and right.

It may never be battle tested, and if it ever is it may prove to be a waste of money.

However, it played well into the egos of the military industrial establishment.

The much less sexy areas of ASW and anti-mine warfare would probably had been a better expenditure of money, for the future of the US Navy.

They did receive priority, though, which is why the Zumwalt-class was cut back to only three ships and a greater number of Arleigh Burke-class DDGs ordered to replace the remainder of the planned class.

But the Navy still feels that have a small number of hyper-advanced ships is important, hence the Zumwalt and her two forthcoming sisters.

144 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:19:27am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

Are its powerplant and busses designed for railguns?

Yes and that’s the most important thing long term about it. Those are probably going to be a very interesting development.

146 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:21:30am

re: #142 Decatur Deb

Are its powerplant and busses designed for railguns?

Yes, actually.

147 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:22:58am

re: #146 Varek Raith

Yes, actually.

78mw power system.

148 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:24:22am

re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis

Yes and that’s the most important thing long term about it. Those are probably going to be a very interesting development.

re: #146 Varek Raith

Yes, actually.

Navy is just about to make them fieldable. Power demand is how Navy got out in front—nothing the Army envisions can carry the generation needed. We were playing with them at Picatinny in the ’80s.

149 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:25:12am

re: #147 Varek Raith

78mw power system.

Oh. A sidearm for an imperial trooper.

150 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:27:45am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Oh. A sidearm for an imperial trooper.

3x more power than an Arleigh Burke, iirc.

151 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:28:00am

re: #149 Decatur Deb

Oh. A sidearm for an imperial trooper.

“Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.”

152 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:29:23am

re: #151 Targetpractice

“Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range.”

Lol.

153 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:30:34am
154 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:35:19am

My surprise, etc:

Special Investigation: How Insurers Are Hiding Obamacare Benefits From Customers

Bit heavy reading for the morning, but if tl;dr, comes down to insurance companies doing what they do best: scaring uninformed people into far more expensive plans than they need while discouraging them from either looking at the market or taking advantage of subsidies.

155 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:35:23am

re: #148 Decatur Deb

Navy is just about to make them fieldable. Power demand is how Navy got out in front—nothing the Army envisions can carry the generation needed. We were playing with them at Picatinny in the ’80s.

New tech with high power requirements has often needed the Navy to take the lead, since the Army has to fit such power equipment into the same vehicle as the gun. Moreover, the Army would only need rail guns for tanks, since the flat trajectory of a rail gun makes it less useful for artillery.

156 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:36:21am

MACH 10 Rail Gun Prototype build by European BAE for US Navy
Youtube Video

157 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:40:18am

re: #153 Varek Raith

Lol@silly comment.

Randolph865 1 week ago

This comment has received too many negative votes

Still not as powerfull as tank gun but who knows how it will evolve in next decade?

Yep, I’d totally want to be in the tank that got hit with that thing.
/

158 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:41:07am

Kinetic energy, how does it fucking work?!?!

159 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:42:15am

re: #154 Targetpractice

My surprise, etc:

Special Investigation: How Insurers Are Hiding Obamacare Benefits From Customers

Bit heavy reading for the morning, but if tl;dr, comes down to insurance companies doing what they do best: scaring uninformed people into far more expensive plans than they need while discouraging them from either looking at the market or taking advantage of subsidies.

ACA was designed with insurance companies in mind, they are fools for not tweaking out every possible advantage.

160 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:45:56am

re: #159 Sol Berdinowitz

ACA was designed with insurance companies in mind, they are fools for not tweaking out every possible advantage.

They’re a bit schizo about it. If it works, their profit per transaction is limited but the volume goes up. Single payer is the anvil dangling over their head if it fails in a hostile (Dem) political environment.

161 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:48:59am

re: #157 Varek Raith

Lol@silly comment.

Yep, I’d totally want to be in the tank that got hit with that thing.
/

The T-90AM would likely still survive the hit, so long as it hit the frontal armor. Russia’s newest model of tank has very strong composite armor designed to resist hyper-velocity rounds,

162 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:50:15am

re: #160 Decatur Deb

They’re a bit schizo about it. If it works, their profit per transaction is limited but the volume goes up. Single payer is the anvil dangling over their head if it fails in a hostile (Dem) political environment.

Single payer is highly unlikely in the US. Hostility to the government is far too high and it does not suit the American temperament.

163 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:50:46am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Single payer is highly unlikely in the US. Hostility to the government is far too high and it does not suit the American temperament.

I’m not finished yet.

164 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:52:04am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Single payer is highly unlikely in the US. Hostility to the government is far too high and it does not suit the American temperament.

ACA came about (as a proposal by the Heritage Foundation) because politicians know that SP would never fly

165 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:52:44am

re: #161 Dark_Falcon

The T-90AM would likely still survive the hit, so long as it hit the frontal armor. Russia’s newest model of tank has very strong composite armor designed to resist hyper-velocity rounds,

I can’t hear you over the ringing in my ears!
- Tank crew

166 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:54:22am

re: #165 Varek Raith

I can’t hear you over the ringing in my ears!
- Tank crew

“Damn— What’s that smell?”

167 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:55:37am

re: #166 Decatur Deb

“Damn— What’s that smell?”

It’s Heinz: his Panzer down!

168 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 5:55:57am

This story has seriously pissed me off this morning:

Rachel Poole, Pregnant Wife, Brutally Stabbed At Home As Soldier Husband Watches On Video Chat

A soldier stationed overseas watched in horror as his pregnant wife was stabbed in her home while the two chatted on video.

Rachel Poole, 31, was rushed to the hospital in critical condition after a man who was allegedly hiding in the home stabbed her multiple times in Texas on Wednesday. Poole was nine months pregnant at the time. Police say Corey Bernard Moss stabbed Poole from behind with a stainless steel knife, according to KFOX.

During the attack, her husband, Justin Pele Poole, an American soldier stationed thousands of miles away in Asia, saw the attack unfold as the two talked over FaceTime, according to ABC15.

Poole was still in critical condition when her baby, Isabella, was born. Doctors performed a successful cesarean section, her stepfather, Gary Jones, told ABCNews.com. The baby is listed in good condition.

Police Det. Mike Baranyay told CNN that the woman recognized her attacker and repeatedly screamed his name to her husband.

Poole managed to call authorities. A short time later, the suspect, 19-year-old Corey Bernard Moss, was located by Fort Bliss Military Police and turned over to El Paso police. Detectives said the suspect was inside Poole’s house before she came home.

I hope Mrs. Poole makes a full recovery and I hope her attacker gets life in prison (since she did not die, the death penalty is not applicable in this case).

169 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:02:29am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

This story has seriously pissed me off this morning:

Rachel Poole, Pregnant Wife, Brutally Stabbed At Home As Soldier Husband Watches On Video Chat

I hope Mrs. Poole makes a full recovery and I hope her attacker gets life in prison (since she did not die, the death penalty is not applicable in this case).

how long until the comments about how if she had only been properly armed with a gun, etc…

170 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:02:39am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

This story has seriously pissed me off this morning:

Rachel Poole, Pregnant Wife, Brutally Stabbed At Home As Soldier Husband Watches On Video Chat

I hope Mrs. Poole makes a full recovery and I hope her attacker gets life in prison (since she did not die, the death penalty is not applicable in this case).

Was this a robbery or a hate crime?

171 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:03:58am

re: #170 Vicious Babushka

Was this a robbery or a hate crime?

Stupider:

Moss allegedly told investigators that the victim owed him money for vehicle repairs. He was charged with criminal attempted capital murder. His bond was originally set at $60,000, but current jail records now show his bond set at $150,000.

172 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:12:41am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

WTF.

173 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:13:25am

re: #169 Sol Berdinowitz

how long until the comments about how if she had only been properly armed with a gun, etc…

Not long at all:

gentlenatureman

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This guy stabbed a pregnant lady. They have a witness that is serving his country. Why do we even need a trial? Even anti-gun sheep should secretly wish this lady had a gun.

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I’m not anti-gun, but what good would a gun have done for this woman? She was ambushed while chatting with her husband on the computer. If she had a gun, it would have likely been put away or locked up somewhere in her home. If it were out in plain sight, the perpetrator would have snuck up behind her, incapacitated her (as he clearly had no trouble doing with a knife), and then shot her with her own weapon.

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174 wheat-dogghazi  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:17:35am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

I think this was the plot of an NCIS episode, or sounds very similar to it.

175 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:20:17am

re: #173 Dark_Falcon

Do these fools not realize she was completely caught off guard?
A gun would’ve done nothing.

176 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:20:17am

re: #174 wheat-dogghazi

I think this was the plot of an NCIS episode, or sounds very similar to it.

Sometimes life imitates art in bad ways.

177 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:21:54am

re: #175 Varek Raith

Do these fools not realize she was completely caught off guard?
A gun would’ve done nothing.

Guns are not just tools for self-defense, they are a magic talisman that wards off evil, be it in the form of criminals, terrorists or tyrannical usurpers. we must hold them sacred

/

178 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:22:57am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

This story has seriously pissed me off this morning:

Rachel Poole, Pregnant Wife, Brutally Stabbed At Home As Soldier Husband Watches On Video Chat

I hope Mrs. Poole makes a full recovery and I hope her attacker gets life in prison (since she did not die, the death penalty is not applicable in this case).

I saw that this morning too—awful story.

Wait—you read HuffPo??  O_o…*thud*

179 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:23:43am

re: #178 CuriousLurker

I saw that this morning too—awful story.

Wait—you read HuffPo??  O_o…*thud*

Lizard down! MEDIC!

180 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:24:49am

Mornin’ everyone.

181 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:25:06am

re: #178 CuriousLurker

I saw that this morning too—awful story.

Wait—you read HuffPo??  O_o…*thud*

Varek, could you please use your force powers and levitate CL over to the fainting couch? It seems she had an attack of the vapors.

182 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:26:50am

re: #155 Dark_Falcon

New tech with high power requirements has often needed the Navy to take the lead, since the Army has to fit such power equipment into the same vehicle as the gun. Moreover, the Army would only need rail guns for tanks, since the flat trajectory of a rail gun makes it less useful for artillery.

The Army needs to bring the Air Farce back under control and field Ortillery instead.

183 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:27:00am

re: #175 Varek Raith

Do these fools not realized she was completely caught off guard?
A gun would’ve done nothing.

More than one pro-gun person did realize just that, but there are always people who just can’t resist going after “the other side” regardless of the facts.

184 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:27:31am

re: #179 Targetpractice

Lizard down! MEDIC!

LOL, hell, even I don’t usually read HuffPo. I used to, but then they got all tabloid-y and I got disgusted and stopped. Now I only go there when a search or other link leads me to it.

185 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:31:49am

GOP afraid of catching teh ghey from poll results.

186 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:32:37am

Burp.

187 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:33:26am

I imagine there is more than one factor involved here.

U.S. girls keep hitting puberty earlier

reuters.com

“The researchers said maturing at a younger age could come with long-term risks for some girls.

“For instance, those who hit puberty earlier could be at higher risk of breast and other cancers because their bodies spend more years making and being exposed to estrogen.

“They also tend to start having sex or using drugs and alcohol at younger ages and are more likely to become depressed or develop low self-esteem.”

Yes, I’ve seen adolescent girls around here who, from a distance, you would think were overweight middle-aged women, suffering from a slowed-down metabolism. These kids are eating too much (esp junk food), are not getting exercise, and with earlier development are becoming sexualized at a much younger age, even before middle school. But it’s not their fault. They are children, after all. Our job as adults should be to protect and educate our kids, not exploit them, as they transition into adulthood. When I see a young girl with her mother and they’re dressed in the same outfits, it’s depressing. They are not peers—they’re parent and child, but our obsession with youth also tends to drive what we wear and how we look as adults, as well.

“You’ve got a 10-year-old who looks like a 14-year-old. We interact with kids based on the way that they look,” Biro said. “Kids interact with each other that way also.”

188 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:35:55am

re: #185 darthstar

GOP afraid of catching teh ghey from poll results.

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Plus POTUS is for it, which is the kiss of death.

189 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:36:37am
190 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:37:01am

re: #186 Gus

Burp.

*glares at Gus* What do you say…?

191 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:37:18am

re: #187 Justanotherhuman

“You’ve got a 10-year-old who looks like a 14-year-old. We interact with kids based on the way that they look,” Biro said. “Kids interact with each other that way also.”

You just described why junior high and freshman year were such a nightmare for me: I was a year behind my classmates having skipped second grade, and a late pubertizer at that…

192 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:38:20am

re: #188 CuriousLurker

Plus POTUS is for it, which is the kiss of death.

Yeah, apparently he wrote a blog post on HuffPo about it last night…You know who else reads HuffPo? Our own DF! DF is a secret Obama supporter.

193 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:39:34am

re: #162 Dark_Falcon

Single payer is highly unlikely in the US. Hostility to the government is far too high and it does not suit the American temperament.

But people dying because they are poor apparently is part of the American temperament?

194 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:39:59am

re: #190 CuriousLurker

*glares at Gus* What do you say…?

“Damn, that was good eatin’!”?

195 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:40:14am

re: #192 darthstar

Yeah, apparently he wrote a blog post on HuffPo about it last night…You know who else reads HuffPo? Our own DF! DF is a secret Obama supporter.

c’mon I read newsmax, probably for the same reason DF reads HP: to find out what the talking points are over on the other side of the argument.

196 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:41:05am

re: #193 Romantic Heretic

But people dying because they are poor apparently is part of the American temperament?

Frankly, yes. It is what it is.

197 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:41:48am

re: #195 Sol Berdinowitz

c’mon I read newsmax, probably for the same reason DF reads HP: to find out what the talking points are over on the other side of the argument.

I only go for the pop-up ads.

198 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:41:53am

re: #195 Sol Berdinowitz

c’mon I read newsmax, probably for the same reason DF reads HP: to find out what the talking points are over on the other side of the argument.

Nope, I think he’s been totally in the closet and just outed himself. //

199 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:42:22am

re: #195 Sol Berdinowitz

c’mon I read newsmax, probably for the same reason DF reads HP: to find out what the talking points are over on the other side of the argument.

Only reason I ever wade into Breitbartian waters or see what Matt Drudge thinks is the moment’s big headline.

200 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:43:32am

re: #190 CuriousLurker

*glares at Gus* What do you say…?

Yep. It’s either that or a long essay my life’s current status. Yawn.

201 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:44:41am

The real reason that cancer patient in California lost her coverage: UHC CEO Stephen Helmsley (compensation $34 million/yr) is pissed that Anthem BCBS get a tax break but UHC doesn’t.

202 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:44:51am

re: #195 Sol Berdinowitz

c’mon I read newsmax, probably for the same reason DF reads HP: to find out what the talking points are over on the other side of the argument.

That’s much of it, though when I’m there I also tend to take a look at the celebrity gossip as well.

203 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:45:52am

re: #196 Dark_Falcon

Frankly, yes. It is what it is.

Bullshit. You may not personally care if poor people get appropriate medical care, but the “US Hostility to the federal government” you speak of is only a small, very vocal minority. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, the Tea Baggers - you guys are the fringe, and while the fringe can mock single payer and dismiss it as “it’ll never happpen”, just remember that ten years ago you were thinking the same thing about legal gay marriage.

204 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:46:33am

re: #199 Targetpractice

Only reason I ever wade into Breitbartian waters or see what Matt Drudge thinks is the moment’s big headline.

I go over to Free Republic whenever there’s an opportunity to feast on some salty wingnut tears. I can’t stomach Brietbart.

205 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:47:17am

The Public Option - it’s not going away.

206 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:47:57am

re: #201 Vicious Babushka

The real reason that cancer patient in California lost her coverage: UHC CEO Stephen Helmsley (compensation $34 million/yr) is pissed that Anthem BCBS get a tax break but UHC doesn’t.

It’s not “he’s pissed”, its that he feels UHC can’t compete in Cali given the rules it has to play under and the lower costs other insurance carriers have. It’s a business decision, not one of personal pique.

Comment repeated on the relevant Page.

207 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:48:40am

re: #204 CuriousLurker

I go over to Free Republic whenever there’s an opportunity to feast on some salty wingnut tears. I can’t stomach Brietbart.

Freepers are occasionally good for a laugh. So are the loons over at RedState, where Erick, Son of Erick lets his subjects engage in the belief that they’re doing more than preaching to the choir.

208 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:48:45am
209 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:49:06am

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

It’s not “he’s pissed”, its that he feels UHC can’t compete in Cali given the rules it has to play under and the lower costs other insurance carriers have. It’s a business decision, not one of personal pique.

Comment repeated on the relevant Page.

Why can’t UHC lower costs?

Oh right, they gotta pay Helmsley $34 million.

210 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:49:11am

re: #202 Dark_Falcon

That’s much of it, though when I’m there I also tend to take a look at the celebrity gossip as well.

Oh shit, I’m getting dizzy again. I totally didn’t have you pegged as someone who’d enjoy celeb gossip. Sheesh, you think you know people… //

211 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:49:59am

re: #208 darthstar

Does anyone think this is real? I don’t but I’m not the best judge of such things.

212 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:50:20am

re: #208 darthstar

“I write tweets”? Yeah, that sure sounds like what an English-as-a-first-language guy would say.

Is this satire or a really crude propaganda attempt?

213 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:50:36am

re: #204 CuriousLurker

I go over to Free Republic whenever there’s an opportunity to feast on some salty wingnut tears. I can’t stomach Brietbart.

Freep is one of a ‘representative’ list of sites I started watching before the 2008 election. That’s how I found a much-different LGF. I try (probably mistakenly) to minimize commerce to the sites I don’t like by hanging on Google caches a lot. Don’t ever go to Breitbart sites because my blood pressure couldn’t survive the urge to tear out throats.

214 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:51:15am
215 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:52:31am

re: #208 darthstar


Which of course means that Snowden haz not Teh Internets.

216 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:52:32am

re: #209 Vicious Babushka

Why can’t UHC lower costs?

Oh right, they gotta pay Helmsley $34 million.

So the CEO should take a pay cut to continue largely unprofitable insurance policies in a state where the deck is stacked against it? You don’t have to be Milton Friedman to know that doesn’t make too much sense.

217 darthstar  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:53:00am

re: #212 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

“I write tweets”? Yeah, that sure sounds like what an English-as-a-first-language guy would say.

Is this satire or a really crude propaganda attempt?

His other tweet.


At least we know he speaks for himself. Ha!

218 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:53:19am

re: #208 darthstar

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I see the acct links to Wikileaks.

If it were really his, wouldn’t it link to the FSB?

219 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:54:02am

re: #217 darthstar

His other tweet.

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At least we know he speaks for himself. Ha!

The greatest trick Snowden ever pulled was convincing the world he did exist.

220 CuriousLurker  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:56:14am

Argh, Mondays. Gotta get to work. BBL

221 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:56:17am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

So the CEO should take a pay cut to continue largely unprofitable insurance policies in a state where the deck is stacked against it? You don’t have to be Milton Friedman to know that doesn’t make too much sense.

Milton Friedman would agree that CEO’s must be PAID MOAR!

222 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:56:50am

re: #217 darthstar

His other tweet.

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At least we know he speaks for himself. Ha!

Hello, welcome to Support Line. This Peggy.

223 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:57:26am

Hahahahaha

224 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:58:10am

Me Ed. Me write twits.

225 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 6:58:20am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

So the CEO should take a pay cut to continue largely unprofitable insurance policies in a state where the deck is stacked against it? You don’t have to be Milton Friedman to know that doesn’t make too much sense.

Do you feel the above is an actual adequate summation of the economic situation there?

226 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:01:40am

re: #224 Varek Raith

Me Ed. Me write twits.

Who won the 1943 World Series?

227 Good Morning  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:02:18am

HA HA Snowden is in Russia now where you can’t legally own an AR-15. Sucker.

228 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:03:28am

re: #225 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Do you feel the above is an actual adequate summation of the economic situation there?

For UHC, yes. They stopped handling individual policies because they could not successfully compete in the market for those in Clifornia.

229 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:03:37am

Hey he is join the Twitter today.

230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:04:37am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

For UHC, yes. They stopped handling individual policies because they could not successfully compete in the market for those in Clifornia.

Why on earth do you think it’s as simple as that? Nothing is as simple as that.

231 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:04:48am

re: #227 Good Morning

Non-sequitur spouting smartass, meet downding.

232 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:05:14am

re: #231 Dark_Falcon

Non-sequitur spouting smartass, meet downding.

Why downding that? What’s the logic there?

233 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:06:31am

re: #232 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Why downding that? What’s the logic there?

He’s been an ass with other posts, and I don’t like his attitude.

234 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:07:42am

re: #227 Good Morning

I don’t get it.

235 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:08:18am

re: #233 Dark_Falcon

He’s been an ass with other posts, and I don’t like his attitude.

Oookay then. If we’re downdinging for incoherence now I need more coffee.

236 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:09:04am

re: #217 darthstar

His other tweet.

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At least we know he speaks for himself. Ha!

“I join Twitter today! I hunt also for Moose and Squirrel!”

237 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:09:12am

re: #235 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Oookay then. If we’re downdinging for incoherence now I need more coffee.

Youtube Video

238 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:09:26am

So he doesn’t have the protection of the 1st or 2nd amendments (for sure not the 3rd) heh.

239 piratedan  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:09:30am

re: #206 Dark_Falcon

I would think that if you’re pulling down a cool 34M a year as a salary, that it would behoove you to compete in the most lucrative market in America and that if you find that the margins aren’t profitable enough for you then….

a) you need to rethink what is an acceptable profit margin and live in the new reality

b) you aren’t really worth 34M a year and you should take a healthy dose of stfu and stay out of the public eye.

240 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:10:50am

re: #235 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Oookay then. If we’re downdinging for incoherence now I need more coffee.

Nah, if its Varek or Gus or any other established poster being incoherent, its fine. But with this guy I think we’re being trolled, so I’m more hostile.

241 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:14:00am

Hey with 34 million you have to watch it. You have to buy real old paintings and furniture. Plus other hardships.

242 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:16:39am

re: #214 darthstar

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Why would Ed Snowden use the overused and available to everyone photo of himself as his avatar?

243 Amory Blaine  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:17:04am

Snowden tweets all your base are belong to us.
/

244 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:17:18am

Yep… it’s his “offcial Twitter acoount”…

bwahahaaaa!

245 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:17:59am

re: #242 b.d.

It’s the only one that the defenders of freedom known as the FSB will allow him to have,

246 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:18:31am

re: #214 darthstar

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My life The account is owned by my lawyer Anatoly Kucherena.

247 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:18:46am

You are a real POS, Boehner.

John Boehner Opposes ENDA, Dealing Blow To Law’s Chances

huffingtonpost.com

248 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:19:00am
250 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:19:42am

re: #228 Dark_Falcon

For UHC, yes. They stopped handling individual policies because they could not successfully compete in the market for those in Clifornia.

Oh bullshit. They could compete, but chose not to. None of the article writers chose to tell us, so we have no idea what the tax credit is that Aetna and Blue Cross / Shield get, so you just assume that UHC was being unfairly singled out, ignoring that the equal protection clause protects them too. They don’t qualify for the tax credit because they simply aren’t doing whatever is necessary to get it, and don’t want to, their choice.

251 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:20:13am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep… it’s his “offcial” account…

bwahahaaaa!bwahahaaaa!

More like Wikileaks offal…

252 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:20:20am

re: #244 Backwoods_Sleuth

Yep… it’s his “offcial” account…

bwahahaaaa!

Acoount.
Canadian for ‘Account’

253 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:21:23am

re: #187 Justanotherhuman

I imagine there is more than one factor involved here.

U.S. girls keep hitting puberty earlier

reuters.com

“The researchers said maturing at a younger age could come with long-term risks for some girls.

“For instance, those who hit puberty earlier could be at higher risk of breast and other cancers because their bodies spend more years making and being exposed to estrogen.

“They also tend to start having sex or using drugs and alcohol at younger ages and are more likely to become depressed or develop low self-esteem.”

Yes, I’ve seen adolescent girls around here who, from a distance, you would think were overweight middle-aged women, suffering from a slowed-down metabolism. These kids are eating too much (esp junk food), are not getting exercise, and with earlier development are becoming sexualized at a much younger age, even before middle school. But it’s not their fault. They are children, after all. Our job as adults should be to protect and educate our kids, not exploit them, as they transition into adulthood. When I see a young girl with her mother and they’re dressed in the same outfits, it’s depressing. They are not peers—they’re parent and child, but our obsession with youth also tends to drive what we wear and how we look as adults, as well.

“You’ve got a 10-year-old who looks like a 14-year-old. We interact with kids based on the way that they look,” Biro said. “Kids interact with each other that way also.”

I noticed, some time back, the paucity of the tall, skinny, gangly, knobby-kneed preteen and early teen girls I remember the girls in my class turning into between 11 and 15. Go to any mall, and you see what appear to be little girls, and young women. Nothing in between. And as you say, with this early development come premature sexualization. It’s sad. They’re still kids and suddenly they’re expected to be sexual beings and know what to and not to do. And all this at a age when everyone is desperate for belonging and acceptance.

Back when our kids were about 4 and 6, we went camping with a group of folks I didn’t know - wife’s friends. When we got to the place, there were a bunch of kids running around together. I noticed one girl, taller than the others, looked about 16, with well-developed secondary sex characteristics. I asked my wife if she was the one designated to watch the kids.

My wife said, No, she’s one of them. She’s 11.

ELEVEN?!?!? Jesus Christ! I could only imagine that poor girl’s life - having to deal with being ogled when she’s still just a kid, hearing the usual whistles and calls from guys, etc, and all before she was even out of middle school. Poor kid.

254 geoffm33  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:21:51am

Morning all!

Not sure if any of you are Boston voters but if you are, or know one please ask them to vote for Annissa Essaibi George for At-Large City Council. She is polling closely behind the 4th (and last) spot and the city council could use her perspective as a teacher as we try to close the achievement gap in the city.

I have my favorite for the Mayoral race too but that race is more of a hot button issue I don’t want to get into here :)

The City Council could seat 3 women of the 4 At-Large spots tomorrow (Pressley, Wu, Essaibi George).

255 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:23:13am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

So the CEO should take a pay cut to continue largely unprofitable insurance policies in a state where the deck is stacked against it? You don’t have to be Milton Friedman to know that doesn’t make too much sense.

Oh, cry me a fucking river. At that point, it’s not even money. It’s just a score in a game.

256 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:24:40am
257 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:27:21am

re: #255 GeneJockey

Cool blog.

258 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:29:56am
259 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:30:04am

re: #257 Varek Raith

Cool blog.

Thanks! I’m running out of topics, though. You can only show so many watch cleanings!

260 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:31:04am

re: #259 GeneJockey

Thanks! I’m running out of topics, though. You can only show so many watch cleanings!

I’m a fan of any complex mechanisms.

261 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:31:45am
262 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:32:30am
263 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:33:12am

re: #262 b.d.

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I am thoroughly amused by this whole thing.

264 Internet Tough Guy  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:35:44am

re: #262 b.d.

ME LIKE GUILDED CAGE

265 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:36:37am

Well, he’s not a verified account, so there’s that going against this being the real deal.

On the other hand, the twitter feed’s grammar and spelling errors are consistent with Snowden’s team and released letters, correspondence, etc.

So, it’s probably his - complete with lawyer writing on his behalf.

And it’s rather funny that he’s got so much freedom there that he’s got to work through intermediaries to get online.

266 kirkspencer  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:36:58am

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

So the CEO should take a pay cut to continue largely unprofitable insurance policies in a state where the deck is stacked against it? You don’t have to be Milton Friedman to know that doesn’t make too much sense.

largely unprofitable?

267 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:40:29am

re: #266 kirkspencer

largely unprofitable?

Well, if your profit is only a small percentage of your revenues, then you’re largely unprofitable.
//

268 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:41:04am

re: #266 kirkspencer

largely unprofitable?

If they can’t find a way to compete and turn a profit selling health insurance in the largest market in the nation then they’re probably doing something wrong.

269 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:42:02am

re: #265 lawhawk

Well, he’s not a verified account, so there’s that going against this being the real deal.

On the other hand, the twitter feed’s grammar and spelling errors are consistent with Snowden’s team and released letters, correspondence, etc.

So, it’s probably his - complete with lawyer writing on his behalf.

And it’s rather funny that he’s got so much freedom there that he’s got to work through intermediaries to get online.

Might be this guy:
Tommasso Debenedetti

270 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:42:34am

re: #264 Internet Tough Guy

ME LIKE GUILDED CAGE

[offcial snowden] What is monster of cookies you speak of? [/offcial snowden]

271 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:42:56am

The ACA enriches the health insurance companies by expanding the pool of individuals who are purchasing insurance.

The insurance companies get paid the full amount of the premium they’re asking - the insured and govt contributed depending on the formula provided (subsidies to insureds up to 400% of poverty level). It’s creating a market that didn’t exist previously.

And depending on the mix of who is registering for the program, the insurance companies may end up doing exceptionally well (albeit limited to 20% as the excess profits over that must be returned to insureds). In fact, the insurance companies have seen their stock prices rise in excess of the rest of the market over the past year.

272 Decatur Deb  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:45:07am

re: #264 Internet Tough Guy

ME LIKE GUILDED CAGE

His Russian is still shaky—They said “Gelding Cage”.

273 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:45:23am

re: #271 lawhawk

The ACA enriches the health insurance companies by expanding the pool of individuals who are purchasing insurance.

The insurance companies get paid the full amount of the premium they’re asking - the insured and govt contributed depending on the formula provided (subsidies to insureds up to 400% of poverty level). It’s creating a market that didn’t exist previously.

And depending on the mix of who is registering for the program, the insurance companies may end up doing exceptionally well (albeit limited to 20% as the excess profits over that must be returned to insureds). In fact, the insurance companies have seen their stock prices rise in excess of the rest of the market over the past year.

That’s true over the broad sweep of the nation, but for individual companies in particular states the situation may be different.

274 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:45:40am
275 gwangung  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:47:32am

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

That’s true over the broad sweep of the nation, but for individual companies in particular states the situation may be different.

So, basically, you got nothing but ideology.

I think you need some solid facts and figures to make your case; in one of the largest markets in the world, I’d be highly interested just how this situation is different.

276 kirkspencer  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:47:45am

re: #273 Dark_Falcon

That’s true over the broad sweep of the nation, but for individual companies in particular states the situation may be different.

Really? May, perhaps, but I’d be delighted for you to give us an example. I can pretty much assure you that Helmsley of UHC is not going to be one of your examples.

277 danarchy  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:49:32am

re: #254 geoffm33

I have my favorite for the Mayoral race too but that race is more of a hot button issue I don’t want to get into here :)

Walsh and Connolly are basically carbon copies of each other. How hot could it be?

278 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:49:34am

Hmm.

279 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:52:07am

re: #269 Backwoods_Sleuth

Might be this guy:
Tommasso Debenedetti

He seems to go for the literary types, for famous writers.

And certainly ES may enjoy fantasy, but isn’t the least bit literary.

280 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:54:04am

Actually, here’s his full comment on liberals and capitalism:

“Liberals have no idea of how capitalism works. They have no idea why, when you go to Wal-Mart, products are cheap, how they get from one point to the other, and how they’re distributed in such a cheap fashion.”

281 geoffm33  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:56:52am

re: #277 danarchy

Walsh and Connolly are basically carbon copies of each other. How hot could it be?

In recent days it’s being portrayed as Labor vs Corporate; “Old Boston” vs “New Boston”, Mom’s vs The Machine, etc, etc, etc.

I’m a Walsh guy but Boston will be fine with either candidate. I don’t necessarily like either of their visions for education vis-a-vis charters. But with Dems for Education Reform and Stand for Children in Connolly’s corner, I dislike Walsh’s edu platform a lot less.

282 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:56:53am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

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Yeah, Conservatives love to say that, but then when somebody like Krugman shows that their economic predictions don’t ever come true whereas those by Liberal economists DO, they change the subject.

283 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:57:14am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

He really walked right into the gun sights with that remark, didn’t he?

284 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:57:33am

Well, if you’re a user of FB, you’re just SOL if your privacy was violated by this program..

Facebook $9.5 Million Privacy Settlement Let Stand by Top Court

bloomberg.com

“The U.S. Supreme Court left intact Facebook Inc. (FB)’s $9.5 million settlement of privacy claims, declining to hear objections that none of the money was being paid to people whose rights were violated.

“The justices today let stand a federal appeals court decision that upheld the accord, which resolved claims over Facebook’s discarded Beacon advertising program.”

285 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:57:57am
“Liberals have no idea of how capitalism works. They have no idea why, when you go to Wal-Mart, products are cheap, how they get from one point to the other, and how they’re distributed in such a cheap fashion.”

Slave labor is a prominent feature of the Walmart business plan.

286 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:58:56am

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

Slave labor is a prominent feature of the Walmart business plan.

Yep, just like Apple.

287 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:58:57am
288 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:59:36am

re: #286 Gus

Yep, just like Apple.

Can you name an American corporation that does not include slave labor as part of its business plan?

289 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:00:10am

re: #287 Vicious Babushka

Aqua Buddha will not be mocked

290 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:01:02am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

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Is he kidding?

I also know how surplus value works. And workers aren’t getting it.

291 Sol Berdinowitz  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:01:07am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

Can you name an American corporation that does not include slave labor as part of its business plan?

There are companies that do not, but most anyone importing from Asia is giving business to slave masters.

292 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:01:25am

re: #285 Vicious Babushka

Slave labor is a prominent feature of the Walmart business plan.

A person could make the argument that liberals have the wrong idea about how Wal-Mart’s distribution network and business model work, but to say that they have “no idea” is patently untrue.

His base will likely eat his remarks up, as they often do with the “Teachings of Aqua Buddha.”

293 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:01:47am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

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Really?

I suspect old Rand tends to look at things as stark contrasts, jumping from conclusion to conclusion without doing the work necessary to follow complex systems to their likely results.

294 Gus  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:02:26am

bbl. Gotta search for an alternative to Walmart on my Apple iPhone. //

295 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:03:01am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

Can you name an American corporation that does not include slave labor as part of its business plan?

Several: Colt, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, DSA Arms…

Hey, you asked.

296 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:03:25am

Dear Sergey, SFZ, FBV, SB and Reine,
COME BACK!!!!

297 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:03:46am

re: #292 Dark_Falcon

A person could make the argument that liberals have the wrong idea about how Wal-Mart’s distribution network and business model work, but to say that they have “no idea” is patently untrue.

His base will likely eat his remarks up, as they often do with the “Teachings of Aqua Buddha.”

Please, enlighten us.

298 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:05:12am

re: #296 Varek Raith

Dear Sergey, SFZ, FBV, SB and Reine,
COME BACK!!!!

I’m afraid LGF has swung too far left for some of our old friends.

299 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:05:23am

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

Several: Colt, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, DSA Arms…

Hey, you asked.

Ford, GM

300 danarchy  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:05:42am

re: #288 Vicious Babushka

Can you name an American corporation that does not include slave labor as part of its business plan?

Well lots of small businesses these days are S Corps and I would say most of them do not use slave labor.

301 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:07:12am

Freddie’s Dry Cleaners down on the corner of 5th and Maple doesn’t use slave labor anymore.

302 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:07:35am

re: #300 danarchy

Well lots of small businesses these days are S Corps and I would say most of them do not use slave labor.

Most of the goods they resell are made in America?

303 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:09:34am

While wingnuts are bitching about everyone whose crap insurance was cancelled:

304 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:12:31am

re: #296 Varek Raith

Dear Sergey, SFZ, FBV, SB and Reine,
COME BACK!!!!

Sergey’s gone for good, I’m afraid. Edward Snowden’s FSB buddies don’t like sites such as LGF very much, so even if Sergey could log onto LGF it would be dangerous for him to do so.

305 danarchy  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:14:14am

re: #302 b_sharp

Most of the goods they resell are made in America?

Some retailers probably do, but that is going to be a pretty small percentage of small businesses. A lot of small business is service oriented, and the retail tends to be niche or boutique retail since competing with Walmart and Target etc. just doesn’t make a lot of sense.

306 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:14:15am

re: #304 Dark_Falcon

Sergey’s gone for good, I’m afraid. Edward Snowden’s FSB buddies don’t like sites such as LGF very much, so even if Sergey could log onto LGF it would be dangerous for him to do so.

Shit, I knew it was bad, just not that bad…

307 Lidane  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:15:28am

This is my shocked face.

308 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:18:06am

Lovely winter weather. Our first gentle snow, preceded by hours of freezing rain, plummeting temperatures and driven into your face by 70km winds.

Ah, winter in the Great White North.

309 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:20:22am

re: #307 Lidane

This is my shocked face.

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“Age of Progressivism”? I hate to break it to them, but a nation composed of smaller parts whose leader was elected by the governed was a pretty “progressive” idea back in the 18th century.

310 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:22:34am

re: #307 Lidane

This is my shocked face.

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Damned Darwin started it all in 1859 with that devil’s bible - “On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life”

311 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:23:14am

And this would be a Bad Thing because…..?

312 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:23:26am

re: #307 Lidane

This is my shocked face.

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He traces the “Age of Progressivism” to 1860, which was also the year Abraham Lincoln was elected president. As a result, I am classing Ellis Washington as a Neo-Confederate and responding appropriately:

Youtube Video

313 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:23:34am

re: #252 Varek Raith

Acoount.
Canadian for ‘Account’

Hey! Leave us out of this, eh!

314 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:24:01am

So I watched Night Of The Living Dead: Re-animation last night. It was hilarious especially given that most of the zombies were the dead from a bus crash that was carrying a bunch of Tea Party people. Even had a Sarah Palin look alike that became a zombie. Absolutely Hysterical.

315 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:24:13am

re: #307 Lidane

This is my shocked face.

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Mr. Washington appears to be a real self-hater. His blog: elliswashingtonreport.com

He’s a trainer lawyer. So why isn’t he practicing law? The rightwing must pay a lot better.

316 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:25:15am

Time to go take the little man to the doctor.

BBL.

317 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:27:00am

re: #314 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So I watched Night Of The Living Dead: Re-animation last night. It was hilarious especially given that most of the zombies were the dead from a bus crash that was carrying a bunch of Tea Party people. Even had a Sarah Palin look alike that became a zombie. Absolutely Hysterical.

A Sarah Palin zombie? How could you tell it was a zombie, given how she’s already incoherent and braining eating in her stupidity?

318 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:27:47am

re: #307 Lidane

Ellis Washington is one of the clearest examples of what I call American’s God-problem.

319 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:28:07am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

And this would be a Bad Thing because…..?

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And this kids, is what we call “Desperation”…politically speaking that is.

320 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:28:22am

re: #314 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

So I watched Night Of The Living Dead: Re-animation last night. It was hilarious especially given that most of the zombies were the dead from a bus crash that was carrying a bunch of Tea Party people. Even had a Sarah Palin look alike that became a zombie. Absolutely Hysterical.

If you liked that, check out Iron Sky. It’s even scarier. Why? Sarah Palin as president, running for reelection.

321 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:28:39am

re: #318 freetoken

Ellis Washington is one of the clearest examples of what I call American’s God-problem.

But is a God-problem or a Christian-problem?

322 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:29:11am

re: #320 Targetpractice

If you liked that, check out Iron Sky. It’s even scarier. Why? Sarah Palin as president, running for reelection.

WHAT?!!

My God man.

323 freetoken  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:29:38am

re: #321 Eclectic Cyborg

God-problem.

Though America also has a Je$u$-problem.

324 jaunte  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:31:18am

re: #307 Lidane

“Because while in a de jure (legal) sense America today doesn’t burn books, in a de facto (unofficial) sense through our book publishing industry, our literary agent industry, our media, our education system, our politics, our legal system and throughout culture and society,” Washington writes, “their exists an existential book burning, happening on a much greater scale by the Democrat Socialist Party, a scale the Nationalist Socialist Party could only dream of 80 years ago under Hitler and the Nazis.”

“In modern times today, leftists creates this book burning atmosphere by deconstructing, perverting and destroying conservative ideas, particularly those out of the Judeo-Christian tradition of intellectual thought … without lighting one match or igniting one torch. Hitler would be pleased!”

So disagreement now = Hitler. Remarkable.

325 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:31:22am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

And this would be a Bad Thing because…..?

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…Shut up, that’s why!

326 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:33:24am

re: #324 jaunte

So disagreement now = Hitler. Remarkable.

He couldn’t find a publisher for his argle bargle, did he submit to Regnery?

Because if even Regnery thinks that your argle bargle sucks, that means it really sucks.

327 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:33:57am

re: #313 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey! Leave us out of this, eh!

Sahrry.

328 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:37:20am

So, now apparently fixing the ACA exchange website is a bad thing - it’s shut down during overnights so that they can run whatever fixes they’re doing.

Insomniacs and chronic wee-hour shoppers: Take shopping for Obamacare insurance on the federally run HealthCare.gov website off your overnight shopping lists — at least for a while.

The part of the problem-plagued website that allows people to apply for coverage will now be taken offline nightly between 1 and 5 a.m. ET, according to a banner now appearing atop the site’s home page.

“The Health Insurance Marketplace online application isn’t available from approximately 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. EST daily while we make improvements,” the banner reads. “Additional down times may be possible as we work to make things better. The rest of the site and the Marketplace call center remain available during these hours.”

The nighty blackout comes amid furious efforts to fix the website and a new warning by the White House that initial enrollments are likely to fall short of expectations.

That many banking sites and other consumer sites take down some areas of functionality to implement upgrades is lost on people who think that any fault must be outrageous outrage. They’re trying to fix the site in time for the December 15 deadline for starting coverage on January 1 (though people will have an extended deadline into 2014 to get coverage for 2014).

329 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:38:04am

re: #326 Vicious Babushka

He couldn’t find a publisher for his argle bargle, did he submit to Regnery?

Because if even Regnery thinks that your argle bargle sucks, that means it really sucks.

If the address of one of your websites is “[n-word]manifesto.com” (he actually uses the word in the site address), you are not likely to find a mid or large-sized publisher willing to speak with you.

330 Targetpractice  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:39:47am

re: #328 lawhawk

So, now apparently fixing the ACA exchange website is a bad thing - it’s shut down during overnights so that they can run whatever fixes they’re doing.

That many banking sites and other consumer sites take down some areas of functionality to implement upgrades is lost on people who think that any fault must be outrageous outrage. They’re trying to fix the site in time for the December 15 deadline for starting coverage on January 1 (though people will have an extended deadline into 2014 to get coverage for 2014).

“FIX THE WEBSITE!”
“Okay, but there will some periods of outage as we implement fixes and test them.”
“THE WEBSITE’S DOWN!”

331 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:41:21am

NYC on pace to once again have fewer homicides than any other year in the past 40 years, and is the safest large city in the nation. There have been 279 homicides in the city through the end of October, down 23% compared from 364 murders up to this point in 2012.

But that’s even as stop and frisk stops have declined significantly:

As for the intrinsic question of why the murder rate has been steadily going down over the last couple years—and remaining low—Police Commissioner Ray Kelly credits the NYPD’s focus on youth gangs and domestic violence, along with “hot-spot policing” and an expanding use of electronic data to identify crime trends. In 2012, police cleared 74.8% of the city’s homicides; not counting cold cases, the NYPD solved 57% of the year’s 419 homicides.


What’s the elephant in the room? As of August this year, the NYPD conducted 53 percent fewer street stop-and-frisks—58,088, to be exact— than it did in the same period last year.

That would seem to indicate a disconnect between stop and frisk and homicide rates.

332 Lidane  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:42:50am
333 geoffm33  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:44:50am

re: #328 lawhawk

So, now apparently fixing the ACA exchange website is a bad thing - it’s shut down during overnights so that they can run whatever fixes they’re doing.

That many banking sites and other consumer sites take down some areas of functionality to implement upgrades is lost on people who think that any fault must be outrageous outrage. They’re trying to fix the site in time for the December 15 deadline for starting coverage on January 1 (though people will have an extended deadline into 2014 to get coverage for 2014).

So we’ve moved from complaining about the 3% of insured in the individual market getting cancellation notices for their faux-surance to the “so impossibly small to even calculate” percentage of insurance shoppers that shop 1am to 5am?

334 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:45:05am

re: #331 lawhawk

NYC on pace to once again have fewer homicides than any other year in the past 40 years, and is the safest large city in the nation. There have been 279 homicides in the city through the end of October, down 23% compared from 364 murders up to this point in 2012.

But that’s even as stop and frisk stops have declined significantly:

That would seem to indicate a disconnect between stop and frisk and homicide rates.

Possibly stops have declined because they’d reached a point of diminishing returns, seeing how gang members were hiding their guns in concealed locations and not carry them on their persons. The reduced would still be enough to maintain the effect once it was in place.

Just a theory, I likely am wrong.

335 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:45:54am

re: #332 Lidane

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Hey, I think I just heard Bryan Fischer’s head exploding!

336 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:50:37am

Google Chairman upset over NSA, claims they are spying on too many people

In an interview with the Wall Street Journal Google Inc. Executive Chairman Eric Schmidt called the NSA’s actions “outrageous,” and said his company has filed complaints with the NSA, the White House, and Congress about “The steps that the [NSA] was willing to do without good judgment to pursue its mission and potentially violate people’s privacy.”

What’s particularly galling, says Schmidt, is that the NSA cast such a ridiculously wide net in its snooping.

“The NSA allegedly collected the phone records of 320 million people in order to identify roughly 300 people who might be a risk. It’s just bad public policy…and perhaps illegal,” he told the Journal. “There clearly are cases where evil people exist, but you don’t have to violate the privacy of every single citizen of America to find them.”

338 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:53:06am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Funny, considering that Google knows more about me than the NSA.

339 Ian G.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:53:09am

re: #335 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey, I think I just heard Bryan Fischer’s head exploding!

You really want to make his head explode? Tweet this at him.

340 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:53:58am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Google Chairman upset over NSA, claims they are spying on too many people

As I commented at NPR, “Meanwhile Google knows more about, what you like and don’t like than the NSA could ever dream of. But because Snowflake says the NSA is bad and Google has a good PR department, everyone gets freaked out by the NSA rather than by those with the information and power to actually screw up your lives.

Sad to see people so unwilling to see the real threat right in front of their noses.”

Alas, it’s running +2 -7 right now as the dudebro/pseudo-libertarian alliance is strong there.

341 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:55:36am


The “Black republican” he is talking about is E.W. Jackson

Remember kids, Democrats are the real racists!

/

342 Egregious Philbin  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:56:33am

So, what was his Freeper name? And I am already seeing the angry white guy contingent trying to deflect away this guy. This is what you get when you listen to a steady diet of Alex Jones, Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, etc. Kooks can’t understand that talk radio is a business…get you angry about stuff you were never angry about before, make you think that you are being opressed, and feed the anger to you so you keep listening. People don’t realize how they are being played by these radio goons.

343 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:57:00am

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

No, Bryan.
See, It because EW is a monumental asshole. I wouldn’t shake his hand either.

344 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:58:08am

re: #340 William Barnett-Lewis

From TPM,

xock
4 Minutes Ago
Well, slam away Google. Of course they’re just mad that NSA is competing with them … since Google digs into any message you send via gmail (for sure) and (very likely) anything stored on Google Docs. But, well, that’s private enterprise-y you know. That’s all okey dokey.

345 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:58:48am

re: #337 Varek Raith

Note the insurers’ defense of the misleading advertising.

It’s two-fold:

1) Nothing in the regs prohibit them from doing this; and
2) It’s capitalism in action.

It’s getting tougher and tougher for the GOP to claim that this is some socialist plot when the key beneficiaries of the ACA aren’t just individuals, but are insurance companies who continue to game the system to their advantage. The insurers are hoping to capitalize on people not being able to understand their options and navigating through the exchange sites to compare prices/policies among multiple insurers.

In other words, shopping around can net significant savings.

346 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:00:51am
347 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:01:31am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

I’M SHOCKED AND OUTRAGED!!!
Wait…No I’m not.
Silly me.

348 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:03:43am

re: #344 Varek Raith

From TPM,

Yep. I use Gmail & other products of theirs but I don’t pretend they aren’t up to their noses in it.

349 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:03:53am

Alcohol was involved somehow.

350 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:05:11am

re: #341 Eclectic Cyborg

[Embedded content]


The “Black republican” he is talking about is E.W. Jackson

Remember kids, Democrats are the real racists!

/

His black Republican opponent who has attacked anyone who isn’t an evengalical Christian but thanks for playing fucktard. E.W Jackson is a fucking bigoted kook. If I were Ralph Northam, I’d call him out for being a bigoted asshole let alone refuse to shake his hand.

351 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:05:20am

re: #349 Vicious Babushka

Alcohol was involved somehow.

[Embedded content]

I .. I… Actually I really hope alcohol was involved. That’s the only way this makes any sense.

352 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:06:25am

re: #348 William Barnett-Lewis

Yep. I use Gmail & other products of theirs but I don’t pretend they aren’t up to their noses in it.

Spying for me and not for thee!
- Google

353 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:06:38am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

And this would be a Bad Thing because…..?

[Embedded content]

I’m going to enjoy Ken’s early political retirement. Seriously, I love how this motherfucker paints himself as this opponent of big government when he’s the one who actually filed a brief to the Supreme frigging Court asking them to let him criminalize consentual sex. Ken, you’re a fucking fraud.

354 b.d.  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:06:44am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

[parallel universe dudebro] Brazil spying on the US?!?!?!? Are we at WAR with them!?!?! Cancel the summit meeting with them!!1! I can’t wait for the goateed Greenwald to go all apeshit on this on Twitter!!11! Olá Brazil spy dudes!! [/parallel universe dudebro]

355 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:07:29am

The morning cute:

Youtube Video

356 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:09:00am

re: #307 Lidane

This is my shocked face.

[Embedded content]

It was going great until Lincoln took away our god given right to enslave other human beings. It tells you all you need to know about paleo-cons like the nuts that run WND that their ideal America was the one where Americans could be held in bondage. That they see Lincoln’s election as the beginning of “when everything went wrong” to me shows how utterly batshit insane these people are and how yes fucking bigoted they are.

357 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:09:18am

zooborns.com

Problem with the transporter…

358 lawhawk  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:09:56am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

Nope. Not going to do it.

I’m not going to show my shocked face. Really. Seriously.

Not shocked. Not at all. Nope.

Everyone spies. First rule of international relations.

Second rule? Everyone spies, but we don’t advertise who we’re spying on, because it’s everyone. And on or for nearly everything you can think of.

Some countries are better about narrowing the scope. Others scoop up massive amounts of information about foreigners. Still others turn that spying inwards to go after domestic threats as well as foreign ones (or claiming that the domestic threat is really a foreign one).

359 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:10:47am

zooborns.com
Faceplant.

360 Lidane  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:12:11am
361 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:12:46am

Wingnuts constantly accuse the left and Obama of hating America and American values. Well here they are living in a mindset where the ideal time was when slavery existed, where spousal rape was legal, when women, and just about anyone not a White Protestant prosperous man was a second class citizen. I choose to live in the America of 2013 where more Americans accept people who come from different backgrounds and where we don’t engage in full scale ostracism just because someone may be gay or non-Christian.

362 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:14:27am

re: #358 lawhawk

Nope. Not going to do it.

I’m not going to show my shocked face. Really. Seriously.

Not shocked. Not at all. Nope.

Everyone spies. First rule of international relations.

Second rule? Everyone spies, but we don’t advertise who we’re spying on, because it’s everyone. And on or for nearly everything you can think of.

Some countries are better about narrowing the scope. Others scoop up massive amounts of information about foreigners. Still others turn that spying inwards to go after domestic threats as well as foreign ones (or claiming that the domestic threat is really a foreign one).

Just so. Even when countries are close allies, they still spy at least a little to find out how the other nation government functions internally. There is also the fact, as David Weber put it, “that spies can be used to provide information that nations cannot be seen exchanging publicly.”

It’s that second bit that really sticks in the craw of Julian Assange. He cannot accept the need for governmental secrecy in some matters and so he attacks governments with Wikileaks.

363 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:15:40am

re: #280 Vicious Babushka

Rand Paul Proves His Ignorance, says “Liberals Have No Idea of How Capitalism Works”

Fuck you, Rand, you pointed headed piece of shit.

364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:15:42am

I wonder how many people bitching about the ACA site roll-out have seen the truly god awful launch of Battlefield 4?

365 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:16:12am

re: #346 Vicious Babushka

[Embedded content]

What Brazil spies on our people too. Damn it. // Seriously, anyone who is shocked by countries who are non-enemies or even countries who are allies spy on each other. Lest we forget, the spying the Rosenbergs were convicted of occurred during WWII while the US and USSR were allies.

366 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:16:28am

re: #360 Lidane

NCSteve
5 Minutes Ago
Because having to abide by the decisions of those elected by the majority of the voters in the jurisdiction of which you are a citizen is tyranny!

367 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:16:48am
368 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:17:14am

re: #364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I wonder how many people bitching about the ACA site roll-out have seen the truly god awful launch of Battlefield 4?

SimCity 5.
Diablo 3.
STO down for hours at a time on a bi/tri-weekly basis.
Yeah.

369 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:18:07am

re: #362 Dark_Falcon

It’s that second bit that really sticks in the craw of Julian Assange. He cannot accept the need for governmental secrecy in some matters and so he attacks governments with Wikileaks.

Sometimes I wonder if that isn’t just a cover for working for someone else with the intention of fubaring western intelligence gathering. It would be interesting to fully trace all the money behind wiki-leaks as I’m sure various governments have done so.

370 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:18:22am

re: #368 Varek Raith

SimCity 5.
Diablo 3.
STO down for hours at a time on a bi/tri-weekly basis.
Yeah.

GTA V online was a PITA too. As I said, to think this is some problem limited to government is delusional. And if anything, it’s reflective of high demand.

371 Political Atheist  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:18:27am

re: #336 Eclectic Cyborg

Google Chairman upset over NSA, claims they are spying on too many people

re: #344 Varek Raith

I agree with that CEO. The legality is highly questionable. the point about spying on 300 million to glean 300 is also a fair point. What is the relevance? Numerous links available.

And I’m not going to pretend for a split second that it’s a valid comparison between government law enforcement /counter terror agencies and a commercial provider that wants to advertise better and make money using big data.

Of course both argue really well for privacy laws that would shield law abiding citizens from both wildly different worries.

372 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:19:55am

re: #311 Vicious Babushka

And this would be a Bad Thing because…..?

[Embedded content]

Because teh poors deserve only one thing; death! How dare they pollute the greatness that is America.

Christ, I’m in a nasty mood today. Long, bad night.

373 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:20:38am

re: #371 Political Atheist

Google ain’t exactly the best spokesman for the privacy movement.

374 Varek Raith  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:21:14am

And I stand by my point that I bet you the farm Google knows far more about me than the NSA does.

375 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:22:00am

re: #368 Varek Raith

Yup. All were rocky, and within a month most were running great. I just started playing Dead Island, really good zombie game. Also checking out “When there’s no more room in Hell” full game mod that was built of the Half-Life 2 engine (another zombie shooter). And got sucked back into world of tanks.

And for those so inclined Bioware is releasing Baldur’s Gate II: Shadows of Amn enhanced edition soon.

376 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:24:23am

re: #367 Backwoods_Sleuth

Darwin Award nominees:

Man hunting for Bigfoot gets spooked by a ‘barking noise,’ shoots friend in the back

Sorry, but no: In order to be nominated for a Darwin award, a person must either get himself or herself killed, or be injured in such a way as to render them infertile.

What this case really shows is a group of idiots violating an important rule that reputable experts on gun matters explain often and loudly:

Never lie to the police! If needed, decline to answer their questions, but never lie to them. All it does is make things worse.

377 Political Atheist  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:25:58am

re: #373 Varek Raith

Standing up for our privacy is a check mark in their favor.

Their data is And any of us can voluntarily reduce the data they get right? To the extent we care anyway.

So in any case, we need the privacy laws to have a check and balance system. Sunsetting the PA and restricting the NSA a bit is the start, not the end of privacy change.

378 BeenHereAwhile  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:28:22am

re: #271 lawhawk

The ACA enriches the health insurance companies by expanding the pool of individuals who are purchasing insurance.

The insurance companies get paid the full amount of the premium they’re asking - the insured and govt contributed depending on the formula provided (subsidies to insureds up to 400% of poverty level). It’s creating a market that didn’t exist previously.

And depending on the mix of who is registering for the program, the insurance companies may end up doing exceptionally well (albeit limited to 20% as the excess profits over that must be returned to insureds). In fact, the insurance companies have seen their stock prices rise in excess of the rest of the market over the past year.

Tom Scully bolted through the doors and up the stairs to a private dining room on the third floor of the “21” Club. […]
Scully was scheduled to deliver the keynote address at an event hosted by the Potomac Research Group, a Beltway firm that advises large investors on government policy (tag line: “Washington to Wall Street”). Today’s discussion centered […] on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, a.k.a. Obamacare. […]
[…]When Scully finally began his speech, he noted that the prevailing narrative among […] many in the room […] was incorrect. “It’s not a government takeover of medicine,” he told the crowd. “It’s the privatization of health care.” […]
[T]he law was going to make some people very rich. The Affordable Care Act, […] would fundamentally transform the basic business model of medicine.
[…] savvy investors could help underwrite innovative companies specifically designed to profit from the law. Billions could flow from Washington to Wall Street, indeed.

nytimes.com

379 b_sharp  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:28:56am

I’m starting up a new business ca Outrageous lled Outrageous Inc. For $100 I’ll turn the topic of your choice into a sphincter tightening brain melting outrage which I’ll publish on Twitter Facebook and the top ten conservative blogs. For an additional fee I’ll call the rush Limbaugh show.

380 GeneJockey  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:29:14am

re: #357 Varek Raith

zooborns.com

Problem with the transporter…

“Do these stripes make my ass look big?”

381 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:55:37am

re: #364 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I wonder how many people bitching about the ACA site roll-out have seen the truly god awful launch of Battlefield 4?

And people wonder why I absolutely can’t stand EA Games.

382 GunstarGreen  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 11:07:45am

re: #10 Targetpractice

I was with you up til the execution part. Guy deserves to be put in a deep, dark hole and left there to rot. 23 years old? He’s gonna be sitting in that cell a >LONG time.

If you’re gonna kill him in prison, get it over with. Leaving him in a hole until he dies is the exact same, results-wise and moral-wise, as executing him on the spot. Better to do it now and save the taxpayer some money. Petty vengeance isn’t worth the astronomical cost of keeping him for a lifetime.

383 GunstarGreen  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 11:13:29am

re: #368 Varek Raith

SimCity 5.
Diablo 3.
STO down for hours at a time on a bi/tri-weekly basis.
Yeah.

The kind of booger-eating mouthbreather that hates the ACA isn’t the kind of person that plays video games. Much like the ‘debate’ surrounding Net Neutrality, anybody with even an ounce of experience with actual tech industry stuff knows that this is neither unprecedented nor unusual, but they’re outnumbered a million to one by inbred morons that have not one single clue how the machinery that enables their worthless lives works.

Watching the Republican party and their useful idiots crow about the healthcare.gov rollout issues is like watching Tonya Harding stand up on national television screeching, “I TOLD you Nancy Kerrigan couldn’t skate!”


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