German Intelligence Officials: Russian Intelligence Is Running the Snowden Show

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Former NSA super-villain John Schindler notes a new report in German daily Die Welt in which a senior German intelligence official concludes that the Snowden circus is being stage-managed by Russian intelligence.

The recent Moscow visit of the leftist Green Party parliamentarian Hans-Christian Ströbele with Snowden caused a global sensation. It was also transparently the work of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB). Noting the stage-managed aspect of the photo op, “There is no doubt that this was a room that was prepared by the intelligence service,” concluded a German senior intelligence official, adding that this was “a typical FSB room ” - meaning fully wired. To expand on Die Welt’s reportage:

The three-hour conversation had been recorded in this room with microphones and video cameras. After analyzing the course of the visit, German security experts came to the conclusion that the FSB completely organized and monitored Ströbele’s visit to Moscow, and effectively used it for its purposes. The goal of the visit had been to rekindle the debate about the NSA spying affair, thus burdening relations between Germany and the United States even more. “This is playing into the hands of Russia,” said the intelligence official, criticizing Ströbele’s action. That the Green Party official allowed himself to be used by Russia for that country’s interests was to be regarded as “borderline,” he explained.

The Snowden Operation is far from over, and more German-related Active Measures are to be expected. That said, it’s somewhat reassuring that, no matter what politicians may say, German intelligence is at least aware of the real game that’s afoot here.

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55 comments
1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:33:12am

I’m shocked.
SHOCKED I say!

2 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:33:33am

This falls into the NO SHIT, SHERLOCK category.

3 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:36:49am

My surprise, et al.

4 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:38:27am

re: #3 Justanotherhuman

My surprise, about Snowden, et al.

5 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:39:20am

Gee, I never would have guessed…

///

6 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:43:56am

But when these things are pointed out to a Greenwald apologist, they demand that you show them “evidence” that Snowden is being managed by the FSB.

Because defecting to Russia isn’t enough evidence.

7 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:44:10am

Not only am I not shocked, but this further suggests Russia was behind this from the get-go, and Greenwald is being used/duped/or actively supporting Russia’s interests here in undermining the US intel operations of the NSA and its allied agencies.

Russia doesn’t have the power projection it used to, so it’s using alternative means to try and sow dissent between the US and its allies and to undermine US interests by disrupting its intel gathering methods.

I am increasingly convinced that Wikileaks is a front for the Russian FSB. Or at a minimum, that Wikileaks has been coopted by the Russians to further Russian interests (which is why the bulk of leaks published are aimed at the US and benefit Russia, and not the other way).

8 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:44:26am

The surprise at this point would be that this wasn’t an FSB operation from the very beginning.

9 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:44:30am

There is such unbelievable, unpossible, inconceivable shock on my face you have no idea.

10 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:45:03am

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11 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:45:36am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

But when these things are pointed out to a Greenwald apologist, they demand that you show them “evidence” that Snowden is being managed by the FSB.

Because defecting to Russia isn’t enough evidence.

Not to mention the fact that Snowden has NO INTERNETS and all his “communications” are delivered by Kucharena.

12 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:45:37am
13 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:47:22am

My shocked fa…

Ah, forget it. I can’t even fake the shocked face any more.

14 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:48:05am

re: #13 makeitstop

My shocked fa…

Ah, forget it. I can’t even fake the shocked face any more.

I know, it’s getting harder and harder to not just break and LOL.

15 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:48:51am
16 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:50:58am

Hey Eddie…Hope you’re enjoying your ‘asylum’ asshole.

17 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:52:12am

Hell, even if you doubt that the FSB planned Snowden’s defection and had no part in his stealing of classified documents, it’s hard as fuck at this point to doubt that Russia is exploiting him to the fullest. Don’t agree? When’s the last time that Snowden gave an interview to the press that didn’t have a Russian “lawyer” in attendance? When’s the last time we saw pictures of him that weren’t released from Russian sources? Hell, even the written statements he’s released have either come from his “lawyer” or through Wikileaks.

18 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:53:37am

Snowden keeps muttering to himself over and over:

THE FUCK WAS I THINKING?

19 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:53:43am

Germany clearly is populated by Obots.

20 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:54:12am

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

>implying Snowden was thinking, or is thinking now

21 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:54:26am

Canada’s answer to Marion Barry.

I once did shirtless snow angels in college after having too many drinks (that sobered me up quickly), but I never really had the urge to smoke crack. I dunno, it just wasn’t for me.

22 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:55:34am

“This is Peggy. Not accepting Snowdens this week. This week we are accepting Greenwalds.”

23 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:55:35am

re: #12 Gus

Can we get one of the Bangladeshi sweatshop workers who sew Che Guevara t-shirts?

24 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:56:08am

re: #20 Internet Tough Guy

>implying Snowden was thinking, or is thinking now

So he was nothing but a golem operated by Glenn, now operated by the FSB.

25 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:56:22am

re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader

“This is Peggy. Not accepting Snowdens this week. This week we are accepting Greenwalds.”

For some reason, this makes me think, “will the dancing Snowdens please wait in the wings? We are only seeing singing Snowdens!”

26 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:58:21am

Twitter on my android blows. I’m always getting these “Cannot retrieve tweets at this time. Try again later.” WTFITS?

27 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:59:56am

re: #22 Feline Fearless Leader

I miss those commercials….

28 gwangung  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 10:59:59am

re: #7 lawhawk

Not only am I not shocked, but this further suggests Russia was behind this from the get-go, and Greenwald is being used/duped/or actively supporting Russia’s interests here in undermining the US intel operations of the NSA and its allied agencies.

Russia doesn’t have the power projection it used to, so it’s using alternative means to try and sow dissent between the US and its allies and to undermine US interests by disrupting its intel gathering methods.

I am increasingly convinced that Wikileaks is a front for the Russian FSB. Or at a minimum, that Wikileaks has been coopted by the Russians to further Russian interests (which is why the bulk of leaks published are aimed at the US and benefit Russia, and not the other way).

Isolated individuals like Snowden and Greenwald, against players like the Russian intelligence apparatus? You think they could be manipulated by an organization with resources and money? Their own egos would prevent them from seeing the possibilities….

They may be smarter than any ONE person in a group, but against the collective resources? I don’t think so…

29 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:01:20am

ick, just ick…
(Warning…do NOT clench yer butt in New Mexico)

Eckert’s attorney, Shannon Kennedy, said in an interview with KOB that after law enforcement asked him to step out of the vehicle, he appeared to be clenching his buttocks. Law enforcement thought that was probable cause to suspect that Eckert was hiding narcotics in his anal cavity. While officers detained Eckert, they secured a search warrant from a judge that allowed for an anal cavity search.

kob.com

30 Ming  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:01:37am

From the beginning, the Snowden affair was based on a lack of awareness that (1) all nations spy, and (2) all nations spy to the very best of their ability.

This isn’t exactly something to celebrate, but it’s the way life is. It’s not even different for people, or companies. None of us is completely honest all of the time. We all (sometimes) try to gather information from the world that will advance our interests.

Snowden has said that he believed that when President Obama took office in January, 2009, American espionage would be somehow reformed, improved, made more civilized, scaled down to a “reasonable size”. Moonbat naivete at its finest.

Unfortunately, Glenn Greeenwald took full advantage of Snowden’s naivete, with the result that America’s interests are damaged to some extent.

Russia will continue to take full advantage of having Mr. Snowden in their custody.

31 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:03:03am

Snowden has always struck me at the kinda guy who, when the FSB showed up and shuttled him off to the middle of nowhere, believed readily that it was truly for his own protection and not to prevent his escape. No need to torture him, just tease out everything he knows while assuring him that it’s for the good of the people. After all, he’s not betraying the US, he’s revealing the depths of their “crimes.”

32 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:04:00am

re: #29 Backwoods_Sleuth

ick, just ick…
(Warning…do NOT clench yer butt in New Mexico)

kob.com

THREE ENEMAS?!

Good lord, these cops were insane.

33 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:04:53am
34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:05:50am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

THREE ENEMAS?!

Good lord, these cops were insane.

and then a colonoscopy!

Needless to say, the guy is suing EVERYBODY.

35 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:05:58am

re: #33 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Apple really didn’t fall far from the tree. That’s daddy’s excuse for the racist newsletters: “My staff signs my names to lots of things, I don’t read them all!”

36 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:07:01am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

THREE ENEMAS?!

Good lord, these cops were insane.

And a colonoscopy.

37 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:10:39am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

THREE ENEMAS?!

Good lord, these cops were insane.

Just being cop-stopped would make my ass clench. I mean, who stops old ladies?

38 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:11:06am

re: #33 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Dumbass probably went with the cheapest plagiarist he could find.

39 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:11:30am

what are freepers thinking about this morning?

Sarah will make a strong run and it will be a horse race between she and Cruz for the nomination.

They will leave Christie in their dust.

reminds me of the tag line in a 50s movie “that would never happen to a nice girl like I”

41 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:11:39am

re: #18 Vicious Babushka

Snowden keeps muttering to himself over and over:

THE FUCK WAS I THINKING?

No, just What the Fuck?!? over and over, thinking does not come into it…

42 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:11:41am

re: #32 Eclectic Cyborg

THREE ENEMAS?!

Good lord, these cops were insane.

Yet another reason not to shop at Wal-Mart.

43 Blue Fielder  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:11:50am

re: #10 FemNaziBitch

Step Right UP! You can get a front row seat to the 2013 INTERNATIONAL Intelligence Wars!

Playing on a Newsstand Near You! Only an Internets Away!

Popcorn and other Concessions accept Mastercard, Visa, Amex, Paypal and Cash.

What, no Bitcoin?

44 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:12:57am

re: #39 dog philosopher

what are freepers thinking about this morning?

Sarah will make a strong run and it will be a horse race between she and Cruz for the nomination.

They will leave Christie in their dust.

reminds me of the tag line in a 50s movie “that would never happen to a nice girl like I”

“between she and Cruz”????????

45 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:13:56am

re: #33 darthstar

Rand Paul needs to hire better plagiarists

by what i saw of his reaction a few days ago, nobody had dared admit to him yet that his speeches had been lifted from wikipedia

46 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:13:59am

re: #39 dog philosopher

what are freepers thinking about this morning?

Sarah will make a strong run and it will be a horse race between she and Cruz for the nomination.

They will leave Christie in their dust.

reminds me of the tag line in a 50s movie “that would never happen to a nice girl like I”

Yep, freepers, you are right. Can’t stop Palin.
Or something.

47 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:18:18am

re: #39 dog philosopher

what are freepers thinking about this morning?

Sarah will make a strong run and it will be a horse race between she and Cruz for the nomination.

They will leave Christie in their dust.

reminds me of the tag line in a 50s movie “that would never happen to a nice girl like I”

I don’t think Christie can win but there’s no way it goes down to Sarah and Cruz. For one, Sarah’s too chicken shit to run. She knows she will actually be called out for being for the bs artist that even other Republicans know she is and she can’t do the whole Me against the liberal elites thing when other conservatives are calling her out.

48 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:19:39am

re: #47 HappyWarrior

Earth will not be able to produce the amount of popping corn needed for the 2016 GOP primary.

49 missliberties  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:25:51am

re: #6 Charles Johnson

Isn’t it possible that Snowden has been working with Russia all along?

As far as Greenwald, he won’t give a hoot, because his ‘great transparency projects’ goals are being achieved? (If anyone knows what they are fill me in)

But where does this leave our other anti-hero, Assange.

50 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:32:47am

re: #48 Internet Tough Guy

Earth will not be able to produce the amount of popping corn needed for the 2016 GOP primary.

Shit, I don’t even like popcorn but I may take it up.

51 Ming  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:38:56am

re: #34 Backwoods_Sleuth

and then a colonoscopy!

Needless to say, the guy is suing EVERYBODY.

It should be noted that a colonoscopy has a risk of perforating the colon. I believe this risk is about 1 in 1000, or 1 in 1400. I used to think colonoscopies should be done more often than every five years, and maybe they should, but my doctor wants me to wait five years this time, since my most-recent colonoscopy didn’t find anything bad.

Of course, the forced x-ray the poor guy had isn’t good for him either. That’s ionizing radiation. But to someone my age, it’s especially chilling that a doctor (and other medical personnel) would perform a colonoscopy, without the patient’s consent, based on a police officer’s OPINION that the patient MIGHT be hiding something in his body.

52 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 11:48:38am

Heh, Fox News might have been hacked.

foxnews.com

Image: LGF159.jpg

53 S'latch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 12:18:34pm

But, Glen Greenwald assured me that Snowden’s stolen data was secure.

54 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 12:19:52pm

re: #40 Varek Raith

Air Pollution In China Blamed For 8-Year-Old’s Lung Cancer

This is America’s future if the Koch bros. get their way.

55 teresa  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:11:01pm

So has Greenwald attacked German Intelligence yet? Because we all know that is coming and soon.


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