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2 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:12:13pm

I saw this at Target yesterday.

Such a fine example of “when movie franchises get mercilessly beaten into dust.”

3 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:13:20pm

Va. gov race seen as referendum on ObamaCare

i can only think that fox news is running this headline in order to get cooch voters out and to the polls

4 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:17:33pm

How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?

5 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:17:46pm

re: #3 dog philosopher

Va. gov race seen as referendum on ObamaCare

i can only think that fox news is running this headline in order to get cooch voters out and to the polls

If only there hadn’t been some other, larger election that could have acted as a referendum on the ACA! Why couldn’t we have had the good fortune of a national election where voters could have made a decision about the ACA?

6 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:18:53pm

re: #4 Kragar

How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?

And I wonder how the usage of ER rooms and their associated expenses plays out gender-wise and what those costs do to the risk pool…

7 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:02pm

re: #1 FemNaziBitch

VICTORY! Senate Bill 10 (The Freedom to Marry) Passes in the Illinois House

Chalk up another victory for freedom orchestrated by the Tea Party and Koch Industries. Oh wait….

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8 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:14pm

Illinois passes gay marriage bill.

9 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:51pm

re: #5 Mike Lamb

Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /

10 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:20:42pm

re: #9 Bulworth

Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /

It cannot fail, it can only be failed. (sigh)

11 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:21:41pm

re: #4 Kragar

How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?

I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as contraception. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.

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12 Lidane  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:23:55pm
13 Lidane  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:24:36pm

re: #4 Kragar

How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?

Apparently a lot of them if my Spam inbox is anything to go by. Haha.

14 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:25:01pm

I’ll be very curious to see the results of the Alabama vote tonight. Not that I am particularly fond of either GOP guy but this will be a good test of establishment GOP vs. Tea Party GOP

15 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:25:38pm

re: #13 Lidane

Apparently a lot of them if my Spam inbox is anything to go by. Haha.

lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.

16 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:14pm

Tommy Cristopher:

What Obamacare does is require people to purchase health insurance, and defines what health insurance is. A man who can never get pregnant is paying for health insurance, and the term health insurance now refers to something that covers maternity care, but also covers prostate screenings that women will never need. That’s just what health insurance is now, just as a car is now a thing that has seatbelts and airbags, and a jar of peanut butter is something that only has an average of 30 or less insect fragments per 100 grams. You can’t get a discount for peanut butter with more bugs in it, that’s just how it comes.
mediaite.com

Sorry, bug lovers.

17 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:22pm

re: #11 klys

I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as contraception. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.

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heh.

The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).

Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.

18 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:27pm

re: #9 Bulworth

Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /

Naturally. A more conservative candidate would have been needed. As well as additional vetting of Obama, which, of course, has not been done thus far.

19 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:27pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.

Us men all know that’s just a lie started by a man who was feeling inadequate.///

20 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:27:01pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.

Which is why there is such a large market for 2-3 inch vibrators…
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21 Jack Burton  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:27:37pm

re: #4 Kragar

How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?

Same as the number of men needing pap smears and menopausal hormone therapy.

22 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:21pm

re: #17 kirkspencer

heh.

The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).

Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.

I don’t begrudge it, but the fact that nobody blinks an eye about erectile dysfunction drugs whereas it’s pulling teeth to have contraception covered and women having to jump through 47 hoops to prove that it is for a medical purpose (if the religious right gets their way) pisses me off.

23 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:21pm

Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.

24 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:28pm

re: #16 jaunte

But I want more bugs in my…oh wait.

25 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:44pm

re: #17 kirkspencer

heh.

The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).

Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.

and birth control pills are also used for reducing cancer risk and treating certain skin ailments…

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:30:53pm

re: #20 Kragar

Which is why there is such a large market for 2-3 inch vibrators…
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Hey now, there’s a middle ground between large and small. Just because all men aren’t walking around with 9 inchers doesn’t mean they’re lacking either.

And actually my statement was based upon conversations with a number of women throughout my adult life. I have yet to encounter one that prefers a “larger” man.

27 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:31:46pm

re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg

Hey now, there’s a middle ground between large and small. Just because all men aren’t walking around with 9 inchers doesn’t mean they’re lacking either.

And actually my statement was based upon conversations with a number of women throughout my adult life. I have yet to encounter one that prefers a “larger” man.

technique will always beat size

28 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:32:00pm

re: #22 klys

re: #25 Sol Berdinowitz

I know, I agree, I was just responding to the “I know of no other use for erectile dysfunction medication” comment.

Banning any drug because one of the uses is icky is wrong.

29 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:32:21pm

Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights

Illinois state Rep. Dwight Kay (R-Glen Carbon) on Tuesday complained that supporters of same-sex marriage frequently spoke about human rights but neglected the Biblical scriptures.

“The other thing I didn’t hear today was the fact that this nation was built on the scriptures,” he said on the House floor. “And then came the Constitution. Is that not right?”

“I think it is,” Kay continued. “Our Constitution has always looked to the scriptures for its guidance and its columns and its foundations and its leanings, its underpinnings. And, yet, I’ve heard nothing today about the scriptures. The only thing I have heard is about human rights.”

“So I guess we have walked away, we have backed away from our heritage in this nation, which we seem to do quite regularly for the expediency of what we wish to do in the moment,” he remarked. “And, ladies and gentlemen, that’s pride. That’s the belief you’re better than the very foundations of this nation which we find in the scriptures.”

Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.

30 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:03pm

re: #28 kirkspencer

I know, I agree, I was just responding to the “I know of no other use for erectile dysfunction medication” comment.

Banning any drug because one of the uses is icky is wrong.

Agreed. I’m just more drawing attention to the fact that drugs that enable slutty sexytimes are fine for men but EVIL for women.

31 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:09pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.

Yeah, it’s not women who have penis envy, it’s men.

Hey guys, we don’t want to get injured, you know, so stop thinking that bigger is better.

32 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:14pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.

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33 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:23pm

You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:

34 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:36pm

re: #29 Kragar

Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights

Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.

I’m sorry, did I miss the Headline that G-d wanted to marry Zeus and couldn’t because same sex marriage was illegal in Illinois?

WTF

35 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:34:18pm

re: #29 Kragar

Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights

Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.

Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.

Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.

Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.

36 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:34:44pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.

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37 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:16pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.

Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.

Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.

Selective Quotation Jesus approves.

38 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:54pm
39 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:56pm

re: #27 FemNaziBitch

technique will always beat size

When I was in college a middle aged lady who hosted one of those “sex talk” cable shows visited our campus once. I remember her talking about how the vagina only has sensitivity for the first several inches so her advice to guys was: “There’s no use banging away on the door when nobody’s home!”

40 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:02pm
41 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:18pm

re: #29 Kragar

Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights

Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.

Oh, how I long for the day when people who declare that the Constitution is based upon or draws from the Bible are looked at like the loons declaring that the moon landing was faked.

42 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:22pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.

Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.

Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.

Yeah, the Religious Whackos seem to have an obsession with it. Maybe THEY need the oppressive rules? IMHO, mental health treatment might just work better.

43 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:24pm

Don’t tread on me!!!!!!!!

gettyimages.com

44 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:03pm

re: #40 Kragar

15th state to defy God

Lol

45 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:12pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:

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People that live in houses made of fake Hitler equivalencies shouldn’t throw rocks.

46 Flying Squirrel Girl  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:18pm

re: #29 Kragar

Funny how they don’t bring up the scriptures that teach us how to treat slaves as an example, or the fact that it is no longer cool to treat women as chattel (well, sort of). Those are taught in the bible as well.

47 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:20pm

re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg

When I was in college a middle aged lady who hosted one of those “sex talk” cable shows visited our campus once. I remember her talking about how the vagina only has sensitivity for the first several inches so her advice to guys was: “There’s no use banging away on the door when nobody’s home!”

I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.

48 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:38:43pm

re: #43 Gus

Don’t tread on me!!!!!!!!

gettyimages.com

Would some one please tell the couch commando that Halloween was last Thursday?

49 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:04pm

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.

Well, you know that a guy had to start calling it “banging”, too.

50 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:04pm

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.

It’s a man-centric idea, naturally. It’s funny how many stupid ideas turn out to be that way.

51 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:13pm

re: #40 Kragar

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“Create”? Were marriages “created” when Loving v. Virginia ended the era of making interracial marriage illegal?

52 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:25pm

The OMG EVILS OF OBAMACARE derper from the overnight thread is plugging away again.

53 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:44pm

Ah, this old chestnut…

Jon, who’s a very good looking man walks into a singles bar, gets a drink and has a seat. During the course of the evening he tries to chat with every single woman who walks into the bar, with no luck.

Suddenly, Bob (who’s a really ugly man, and I mean R-E-A-L-L-Y ugly) walks into the bar. He sits at the bar, and within seconds he is surrounded by women. Very soon he walks out of the bar with the two of the most beautiful women you ever saw.

Disheartened by all this, Jon asks the barman, ‘Excuse me, but that really ugly man just came in here and left with those two stunning women - what’s his secret? He’s as ugly as sin and I’m everything a girl could want but have not been able to connect all night - What’s going on?’

‘Well,’ Said the Barman, ‘I don’t know how he does it, but he does the same thing every night. He walks in, orders a drink, and just sits there licking his eyebrows…’

54 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:41:41pm

re: #53 Kragar

You have a file for these things don’t you?

55 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:42:18pm

re: #46 Flying Squirrel Girl

Funny how they don’t bring up the scriptures that teach us how to treat slaves as an example, or the fact that it is no longer cool to treat women as chattel (well, sort of). Those are taught in the bible as well.

I think they’re aware—look at what’s been going on with the Christian patriarchy movement and several related phenomena. . It’s just that the chattel thing isn’t quite ready for its PR rollout.

56 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:08pm

re: #54 FemNaziBitch

You have a file for these things don’t you?

I do it all with keywords and mnemonics.

57 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:17pm

re: #11 klys

I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as contraception abortion. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.

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FTFY

58 Flying Squirrel Girl  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:52pm

re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea

Yes because of oppressive liberals, the only place they can talk freely about spanking their wives is at bible study.

59 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:08pm

re: #30 klys

Agreed. I’m just more drawing attention to the fact that drugs that enable slutty sexytimes are fine for men but EVIL for women.

Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?

60 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:34pm

You know last month, after nearly 10 years together, LGBT friends of mine got married.

My life hasn’t been affected one bit.

61 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:40pm

re: #59 GeneJockey

Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?

Sheep?

/runs

62 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:58pm

re: #59 GeneJockey

Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?

whores/non-human women.

63 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:45:26pm

re: #61 klys

Sheep?

/runs

“Baaah” means “Nooo.”

64 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:45:49pm

re: #61 klys

Sheep?

/runs

The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.

65 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:15pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.

They ask for it?

66 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:27pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.

Scots wear kilts because sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away!

(In Scotland, this is then applied to folks from Glasgow.)

67 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:39pm

re: #52 klys

The OMG EVILS OF OBAMACARE derper from the overnight thread is plugging away again.

That’s a Dead Thread Rat Troll. Those used to be common on LGF, but they’re rare now.

68 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:47:52pm

re: #33 Dark_Falcon

You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:

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It’s more like an icon of nebulous anti-government angst. The pictures speaks much more to the need for strong regulatory oversight than either most conservative free market zealots or anonymous dudebros would care to admit.

69 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:47:54pm

re: #62 FemNaziBitch

whores/non-human women.

“What? I could never ask my wife to do THAT! She’s the Mother Of My Children!”

70 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:48:03pm

One night, a man and his lady friend were about to enter his apartment, Before he can unlock the door she stops him. “Wait a minute, I can tell how a man makes love by how he unlocks his door. If a guy shoves his key in the lock, and opens the door hard, then that means he is a rough lover. If a man fumbles around and can’t seem to find the hole, then that means he is inexperienced.”

So the guy licks the lock.

71 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:48:59pm

re: #69 GeneJockey

“What? I could never ask my wife to do THAT! She’s the Mother Of My Children!”

That freaking pedestal again. Women are either above or below the status of men. NEVER on the same level.

I wish I could just blow-up that pedestal.

72 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:10pm
73 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:28pm

re: #68 goddamnedfrank

It’s more like an icon of nebulous anti-government angst. The pictures speaks as much more to the need for strong regulatory oversight than either most conservative free market zealots or anonymous dudebros would care to admit.

Please feel free to expand on this point if you wish.

74 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:41pm

re: #72 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Probably true. Witches are just Wily Bitches.

75 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:49pm
76 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:54pm

re: #56 Kragar

I do it all with keywords and mnemonics.

Johnny?

77 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:50:02pm

re: #71 FemNaziBitch

That freaking pedestal again. Women are either above or below the status of men. NEVER on the same level.

I wish I could just blow-up that pedestal.

You, me, and every other decent self-respecting individual. The conservative Christian community makes a big deal out of putting women on this pedestal, but to be honest, many of them are so sexually repressed they’re practically in Narnia.

78 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:50:25pm
79 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:16pm

re: #64 thedopefishlives

The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.

An Aussie Scientist friend of mine, who works in Reproductive Endocrinology, was introducing a Kiwi friend’s talk at a conference, with the usual rundown of his CV. He said, “And at this point in his career, he confirmed certain suspicions about New Zealanders by deciding to study Ovine Reproduction.”

80 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:23pm
81 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:40pm

re: #67 Dark_Falcon

That’s a Dead Thread Rat Troll. Those used to be common on LGF, but they’re rare now.

I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.

82 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:53:18pm

I voted.
:)

83 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:53:38pm

re: #82 Varek Raith

I voted.
:)

I couldn’t, no election in Illinois today.

84 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:54:22pm

What kind of idiot pulls a stunt like this? I’m not buying his excuse, not when there are billions of plastic bags around he could have put that crap in, or he could have borrowed another bag.

Student Who Prompted CCSU Lockdown Is Arrested On More Charges
Surveillance Photos Show Realistic-Looking Halloween Costume

courant.com

NEW BRITAIN — A student who caused alarm by walking through Central Connecticut State University Monday while wearing a Halloween costume was arrested on additional charges Tuesday, a school spokesman said.

“David Kyem was charged with first-degree criminal trespassing after he was seen on campus at about 1:14 p.m. Tuesday, according to a press release from CCSU police. He had been warned not to return to campus until he had met with staff in the university’s office of Student Conduct, the release states.

(snip)

“Central police charged Kyem Monday night with breach of peace and released him after he posted $1,000 bail. After Tuesday’s arrest he was released on a promise to appear. Kyem is scheduled to appear in Superior Court on Nov. 14, for both charges. Kyem is the son of Central geography Professor Peter Kyem.”

85 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:54:35pm

Take that, Ken!

86 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:54:49pm

This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.

87 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:55:24pm

re: #86 Kragar

This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.

And herer the Republicans were crying about Obamacare websites not working. They apparently have no knowledge of computer systems whatsoever.

88 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:56:38pm

Men only have prostates!

Lol

89 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:02pm

re: #88 Varek Raith

Men only have prostates!

Lol

You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.

90 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:11pm

re: #81 klys

I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.

I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’m not getting it. Could someone help me?

91 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:20pm

re: #86 Kragar

This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.

I just flashed on the scene in MIB2, where they’re trying to De-Neuralize K, and all the lights go out, and there’s silence, except to for Jake Jeebs:

“Hmm.”

92 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:34pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.

You can have a brain or a penis: choose.

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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)

93 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:05pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.

None.
re: #92 klys

You can have a brain or a penis: choose.

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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)

Brain.

94 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:17pm

re: #73 Dark_Falcon

Please feel free to expand on this point if you wish.

OSHA Technical Manual (OTM)
Section VIII: Chapter 2

The level of worker protection on display in that Chinese sweatshop is absolutely appalling, and it’s exactly what the Republicans who attack OSHA, environmental health and worker safety standards as crippling business would make legal here. Hate to think what a cross section of those guy’s lung tissues looks like. Then there’s the VOC’s being emitted directly outside, no place that treats worker safety so cavalierly gives a shit about the pollution they’re releasing into the nearby countryside.

95 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:24pm

re: #92 klys

You can have a brain or a penis: choose.

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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)

When men who have to dress for work complain about wearing tie:

You can wear a tie every day or have a period once a month.

96 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:31pm

re: #92 klys

You can have a brain or a penis: choose.

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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)

No, you can have both. You just only have enough blood to use one at a time.

97 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:59:41pm

re: #81 klys

I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.

Of course he did. He claims to be an employer and on the NY Stock Exchange. And everybody knows the insurance documentation is clear in identifying what is and is not covered, in such fashion you don’t have to be a medical expert to understand the inter-connecting issues. //

Actually, I’m going to assume for a moment that he does indeed employ people on the NY Exchange. That means he’s not only wealthy but employs people who are wealthy. And the simple fact is there’s a narrow slice of people for whom insurance is going to be more expensive for the same thing they had before. The buzzword was ‘gold-plated’ insurance and it was identified as a poison pill at the time it was inserted.

So if the person’s being honest (instead of pure troll) he’s using personal anecdote as universal truth - something that sadly happens a lot.

Doesn’t make it better. Just makes me willing to avoid roasting to well-done.

98 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:21pm

re: #94 goddamnedfrank

OSHA Technical Manual (OTM)
Section VIII: Chapter 2

The level of worker protection on display in that Chinese sweatshop is absolutely appalling, and it’s exactly what the Republicans who attack OSHA, environmental health and worker safety standards as crippling business would make legal here. Hate to think what a cross section of those guy’s lung tissues looks like. Then there’s the VOC’s being emitted directly outside, no place that treats worker safety so cavalierly gives a shit about the pollution they’re releasing into the nearby countryside.

Thank you, your point is well made. VOC = Volatile Organic Compounds, correct?

99 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:45pm

Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,

1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men

?

100 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:55pm
101 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:56pm

re: #96 Kragar

No, you can have both. You just only have enough blood to use one at a time.

Unfortunately, for many men, the little head’s gonna override the big head.

102 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:01:41pm

re: #81 klys

I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.

It’s apparently all the rage. Goopers and Libertarians are suddenly discovering that most people don’t actually need everything that their insurance covers. Usually, they shut up when you point that most people don’t “need” car insurance or life insurance or homeowners’ insurance, by that definition.

Honest to god, they remind me of a guy I used to work with who didn’t have car insurance, who told me, when I asked what he planned to do if he got into an accident, “I don’t plan to get into an accident.”

To this day, I still don’t know if he was joking. His usual deadpan wasn’t that good.

103 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:02:11pm

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,

1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men

?

Knowing nothing else, I’d say the woman.

104 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:02:46pm

re: #101 AlexRogan

Hey, who’s that guy with the big head?

Youtube Video

105 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:03:54pm

re: #97 kirkspencer

Of course he did. He claims to be an employer and on the NY Stock Exchange. And everybody knows the insurance documentation is clear in identifying what is and is not covered, in such fashion you don’t have to be a medical expert to understand the inter-connecting issues. //

Actually, I’m going to assume for a moment that he does indeed employ people on the NY Exchange. That means he’s not only wealthy but employs people who are wealthy. And the simple fact is there’s a narrow slice of people for whom insurance is going to be more expensive for the same thing they had before. The buzzword was ‘gold-plated’ insurance and it was identified as a poison pill at the time it was inserted.

So if the person’s being honest (instead of pure troll) he’s using personal anecdote as universal truth - something that sadly happens a lot.

Doesn’t make it better. Just makes me willing to avoid roasting to well-done.

Trolls have to be well-done, in order to ensure that any Bad Craziness bacteria they are carrying die.

106 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:04:32pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’d not getting it. Could someone help me?

The key line would be:

If there is one good thing to come out of this obamacare sticker shock news, perhaps many people who never considered it before will realize how ridiculous it is to be forced to buy something you don’t need. That isn’t how you incentivize the industry to control costs.

Of course, you are very likely to need some form of health care at some point in your life. And you have very little control over when that will happen or what form it will take. As has frequently been said, most young people without insurance are one bus accident away from bankruptcy.

But hey, let’s let society as a whole pay the costs in the form of worse outcomes and more expensive care all around, while being totally ok with denying people coverage based on pre-existing conditions (hope he never hires any new employees, I guess?) and throwing them off the insurance when they cost too much.

107 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:04:36pm

re: #103 Dark_Falcon

Knowing nothing else, I’d say the woman.

You would be wrong.

108 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:06:05pm

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,

1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men

?

Perhaps a better question would be, all else being equal, who has more reason to be afraid?

Then there’s looking at the question the other way - who has more reason to be afraid:

1. A woman alone in a room full of men?

2. A man alone in a room full of woman?

109 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:06:40pm

re: #106 klys

The key line would be:

Of course, you are very likely to need some form of health care at some point in your life. And you have very little control over when that will happen or what form it will take. As has frequently been said, most young people without insurance are one bus accident away from bankruptcy.

But hey, let’s let society as a whole pay the costs in the form of worse outcomes and more expensive care all around, while being totally ok with denying people coverage based on pre-existing conditions (hope he never hires any new employees, I guess?) and throwing them off the insurance when they cost too much.

That helps a good deal. Thank you.

110 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:07:42pm
111 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:23pm

‘Craziest’ is not the word I would use. Maybe ‘absolutely most horrible, except for the guy that almost died in jail without ever being booked’ (which was also in southern NM).

112 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:32pm

re: #98 Dark_Falcon

Thank you, your point is well made. VOC = Volatile Organic Compounds, correct?

Yep, the pigments in paint are carried by a solvent, and I very much doubt that the people making Guy Fawkes masks are using water base. Dudebros don’t want their masks running in the rain. When the paint dries the solvent doesn’t just magically disappear, if it’s VOC based it has to be captured in giant charcoal hvac filters and disposed of properly or it just floats outside where it causes all kinds of environmental problems.

113 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:47pm

re: #105 Dark_Falcon

Trolls have to be well-done, in order to ensure that any Bad Craziness bacteria they are carrying die.

It’s not bacteria that causes Bad Craziness, it’s a prion disease, like “mad cow disease” and CJD.

/

114 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:10pm

re: #109 Dark_Falcon

That helps a good deal. Thank you.

I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.

This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.

115 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:36pm

re: #99 FemNaziBitch

Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,

1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men

?

I don’t know. Maybe a black woman sitting in a room full of only white women from Salon.

116 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:42pm

re: #113 AlexRogan

It’s not bacteria that causes Bad Craziness, it’s a prion disease, like “mad cow disease” and CJD.

/

“Dust off and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”

117 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:10:03pm

What happens when one of Colbert’s writers makes a script which goes thru TV and movie reviews, replaces the names with shows and staff from Fox News, then tweets them?

This: twitter.com

— Real Human Praise (@RealHumanPraise) November 5, 2013

118 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:10:26pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’d not getting it. Could someone help me?

The problem is in part the way insurance works. You’re getting insurance to help you pay for medical expenses. You are not predicting what those expenses will be, neither cause nor procedure. You and a host of other people are putting money in a pool. Some will need more, some will need less - this year. If the insurance company set up the pool correctly then everyone’s benefits will be paid, the insurance company can pay admin and other expenses, and there’s a little profit at the end.

The only things you can identify to have removed are those that are listed. Those items are listed because the listing is required by law to guarantee they’re covered or because they’re covered at non-standard rates.

The problem with cutting and removing and tweaking is that it reduces the number of contributors to the pool. The overall result of reducing the pool membership is that each individual has to pay more because SOMEONE might (will) have a major expense - and the benefits and expenses have to be met. (In the eyes of the company the profit has to be met as well, but that’s a separate argument.)

“I don’t need it, so I want a separate pool that doesn’t cover these things” is in the end more expensive for everyone in both smaller pools.

119 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:11:20pm

re: #102 GeneJockey

Honest to god, they remind me of a guy I used to work with who didn’t have car insurance, who told me, when I asked what he planned to do if he got into an accident, “I don’t plan to get into an accident.”

To this day, I still don’t know if he was joking. His usual deadpan wasn’t that good.

I know people here in Kentucky who don’t have car insurance because “it’s cheaper to pay the fine ($500, usually knocked down to $250 in court) then actually buy the insurance.”

Funny thing is, I paid about that annually for three pickup trucks. Now that I have only two pickups (gave the third one to my niece a couple of weeks ago) the annual premium is less than $400. And that includes the required coverage that I have to pay in Kentucky for uninsured drivers.

120 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:11:48pm

Actually. If under normal circumstances you find yourself afraid in situations like this you might want to consider therapy.

121 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:16pm

re: #118 kirkspencer

The problem is in part the way insurance works. You’re getting insurance to help you pay for medical expenses. You are not predicting what those expenses will be, neither cause nor procedure. You and a host of other people are putting money in a pool. Some will need more, some will need less - this year. If the insurance company set up the pool correctly then everyone’s benefits will be paid, the insurance company can pay admin and other expenses, and there’s a little profit at the end.

The only things you can identify to have removed are those that are listed. Those items are listed because the listing is required by law to guarantee they’re covered or because they’re covered at non-standard rates.

The problem with cutting and removing and tweaking is that it reduces the number of contributors to the pool. The overall result of reducing the pool membership is that each individual has to pay more because SOMEONE might (will) have a major expense - and the benefits and expenses have to be met. (In the eyes of the company the profit has to be met as well, but that’s a separate argument.)

“I don’t need it, so I want a separate pool that doesn’t cover these things” is in the end more expensive for everyone in both smaller pools.

Thank you for that as well.

122 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:20pm

re: #114 klys

I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.

This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.

Good middlemen provide a service and increase the value of the product. I have yet to figure out what it is that private insurance companies do that improves healthcare. Certain things like basic utilities and healthcare should pretty much always be run by the government.

123 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:36pm
124 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:15:54pm

Ha!

125 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:18:44pm

re: #124 Gus

Ha!

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Failure to learn is learning to fail.

126 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:19:55pm

I’ve come to understand that men are very afraid of other men —and that this deeply affects society.

A woman alone in a room full of other men has little to fear, actually, because they will be fighting each other to get to her. She has more to fear from being in a room with just one man. As I understand it.

Men, on the other hand, risk much violence if they don’t show only the societal accepted manly behavior.

127 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:21:16pm

re: #126 FemNaziBitch

Which is why I was bullied and abused in public school. I’m not “normal” by any stretch of the imagination. The other guys perceived my differences as weakness and pounced on them.

128 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:21:36pm

re: #122 goddamnedfrank

Good middlemen provide a service and increase the value of the product. I have yet to figure out what it is that private insurance companies do that improves healthcare. Certain things like basic utilities and healthcare should pretty much always be run by the government.

Making sure forms are correctly filled-out and needed coverage is applied for certainly makes the insurance agent’s services worth while. Having worked in such office, I really fear for people who don’t use the services of an agent.

Not that it seems to matter with group-health policies —probably more for life, home and auto.

129 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:23:04pm

re: #120 Gus

Actually. If under normal circumstances you find yourself afraid in situations like this you might want to consider therapy.

I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.

130 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:23:55pm

re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth

I know people here in Kentucky who don’t have car insurance because “it’s cheaper to pay the fine ($500, usually knocked down to $250 in court) then actually buy the insurance.”

Funny thing is, I paid about that annually for three pickup trucks. Now that I have only two pickups (gave the third one to my niece a couple of weeks ago) the annual premium is less than $400. And that includes the required coverage that I have to pay in Kentucky for uninsured drivers.

Cheaper unless you are found at fault in an accident that includes bodily unjury of the other person or death. Then you are in bad, bad shape.

131 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:24:50pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.

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Rand Paul’s supporters, I presume?

132 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:25:28pm

re: #114 klys

I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.

This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.

I As I’ve grown older, and had several experiences which demonstrated how many of the conditions that cost tons of money to treat are pretty much random events, I’ve come to believe that the quality of the healthcare one receives should not be primarily a function of one’s income.

The desire of those on the Right to have much of life be a punishment or reward for behavior runs very deep. When you bring up healthcare costs, they will talk about overweight people getting diabetes and heart disease; about Gays getting HIV; about smokers getting lung cancer - it’s always a judgement for some failure, and they shouldn’t have to pay for it. But that’s not how a lot of diseases work. Even obesity is not simply a function of laziness and gluttony, and susceptibility to obesity-related disease isn’t a simple function of weight, either. Most cancers seem to be primarily bad luck, either in your choice of parents, or just a roll of the somatic DNA replication dice.

So, how can one defend the view that those afflicted with diseases they didn’t cause are not our concern?

133 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:25:46pm
134 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:04pm

re: #132 GeneJockey

I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.

135 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:13pm

re: #131 darthstar

As Rand Paul said,
“It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Oh wait. That was Sam Adams.

136 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:20pm

re: #127 thedopefishlives

Which is why I was bullied and abused in public school. I’m not “normal” by any stretch of the imagination. The other guys perceived my differences as weakness and pounced on them.

Yeah, it seems to be basic male stuff I’ll never totally understand because I don’t have brothers.

137 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:43pm

re: #134 klys

I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.

Lack of Imagination.

138 darthstar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:19pm
139 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:44pm

re: #138 darthstar

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I write the songs, that make the whole world sing … .

140 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:53pm

re: #136 FemNaziBitch

Yeah, it seems to be basic male stuff I’ll never totally understand because I don’t have brothers.

Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.

141 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:30:15pm

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.

I don’t know. Depends on current status and the situation. Today I shuffle into a room with my watch cap and sweat pants; neck beard and all. Don’t really think about who’s there as long as it’s not some nutcase (male or female). Last time it was at Denver general waiting and before that the DMV. At the DMV two men pulled up next to me in the parking lot and the driver told his friend to “get the door for the brother (me).”

142 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:30:36pm

re: #140 thedopefishlives

Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.

Not your problem, everyone elses!

((thedopefishlives))))

143 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:03pm

re: #141 Gus

I don’t know. Depends on current status and the situation. Today I shuffle into a room with my watch cap and sweat pants; neck beard and all. Don’t really think about who’s there as long as it’s not some nutcase (male or female). Last time it was at Denver general waiting and before that the DMV. At the DMV two men pulled up next to me in the parking lot and the driver told his friend to “get the door for the brother (me).”

perhaps such impuses mellow with age.

144 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:26pm

But this is Denver. When I drove through Bakersfield. Well. That was weird. I wasn’t afraid per se but more like “I have to get out of this fucked up redneck town full of angry fuckers quick.”

145 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:53pm

there is a lot of misinformation being propagated out there about insurance companies suffering hardships because of the necessity of insuring people with pre-existing conditions, complete with assertions that the whole enterprise will go down in flames if droves of healthy young people fail to sign up

you would think that the health insurance industry was barely making a profit

in fact of course insuring a person with pre-existing conditions does not automatically lead to an insurance company taking a loss - every policy is a carefully calibrated gamble, which is much more likely to lead to more income for the company rather than a payout, especially in the short term

health insurance company profits are typically estimated at an overall average of about 3.3% per policy, with the overwhelming majority of policies being employer based family policies costing about $200-300/m. multiply that by the estimated number of covered families in the united states, and you’ll get a good estimate of overall net profit for the industry. even if all persons with pre-existing conditions sign up, and very few of these healthy young persons who don’t already have insurance, it will have some impact on the overall profit margin, but hardly enough to eliminate it

and then there is re-insurance, not a very well known aspect of the insurance industry

re-insurance is required by law for most forms of insurance. re-insurance is a policy taken out on a group of regular insurance policies. if the payout on the group of policies exceeds a certain amount during some period of time, the re-insurance policy can be cashed in

basically, re-insurance is insurance against losing too much money

so, if in fact it turned out that some group of policies taken out by people with pre-existing conditions turned out to be a bad gamble, and the insurance company lost a zillion dollars on it in some given year, they would cash in their re-insurance policy on it, and the loss would be amortized by being re-distributed throughout the industry

because, you see, re-insurance companies take out their own re-re-insurance policies, and so on ad infinitum

146 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:32:33pm
147 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:14pm

It seems to me that the very first paragraph in the linked article is wrong in its premise. And BTW, Glenn, corporations can indeed put you in jail by going through the legal system, which you should know, being a hotshot lawyer and all. I actually did that once years ago when an individual wouldn’t pay a bill he owed for a car and I had him jailed. It’s called “executing a judgment”, that judgment having gone through the legal system and the debt still being ignored by the individual. I didn’t want to, but the law firm was working for the company. Happens all the time.


I don’t think the govt actually monitors my bank acct, either. They would have to get a warrant to do that.

Trying to compare a public entity (the “govt”) to a for profit one (“corp”) is such a false analogy I can’t believe Fung even made it. But any argument in a storm, eh, dudebro?

148 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:50pm

re: #143 FemNaziBitch

perhaps such impuses mellow with age.

Pain helps. :D

149 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:51pm

re: #144 Gus

But this is Denver. When I drove through Bakersfield. Well. That was weird. I wasn’t afraid per se but more like “I have to get out of this fucked up redneck town full of angry fuckers quick.”

Yeah, I don’t think it is male per se, but cultural, perhaps even biological to some degree —hormone levels, brain wiring.

I think it affects our politics as well. One group assumes all men are this way and we have to devise laws to control them, and the other says that all men are this way and can live as rational human beings.

150 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:34:22pm

re: #145 dog philosopher

there is a lot of misinformation being propagated out there about insurance companies suffering hardships because of the necessity of insuring people with pre-existing conditions, complete with assertions that the whole enterprise will go down in flames if droves of healthy young people fail to sign up

you would think that the health insurance industry was barely making a profit

in fact of course insuring a person with pre-existing conditions does not automatically lead to an insurance company taking a loss - every policy is a carefully calibrated gamble, which is much more likely to lead to more income for the company rather than a payout, especially in the short term

health insurance company profits are typically estimated at an overall average of about 3.3% per policy, with the overwhelming majority of policies being employer based family policies costing about $200-300/m. multiply that by the estimated number of covered families in the united states, and you’ll get a good estimate of overall net profit for the industry. even if all persons with pre-existing conditions sign up, and very few of these healthy young persons who don’t already have insurance, it will have some impact on the overall profit margin, but hardly enough to eliminate it

and then there is re-insurance, not a very well known aspect of the insurance industry

re-insurance is required by law for most forms of insurance. re-insurance is a policy taken out on a group of regular insurance policies. if the payout on the group of policies exceeds a certain amount during some period of time, the re-insurance policy can be cashed in

basically, re-insurance is insurance against losing too much money

so, if in fact it turned out that some group of policies taken out by people with pre-existing conditions turned out to be a bad gamble, and the insurance company lost a zillion dollars on it in some given year, they would cash in their re-insurance policy on it, and the loss would be amortized by being re-distributed throughout the industry

because, you see, re-insurance companies take out their own re-re-insurance policies, and so on ad infinitum

I think by the time a person is 40 or 50, everyone has some pre-existing condition. At the very least knee pain.

151 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:34:58pm

re: #148 Gus

Pain helps. :D

I’ve become so much more empathetic since the pain set in.

152 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:35:12pm

re: #134 klys

I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.

Yeah. I ran into walls in discussions with Conservatives, even relatively intelligent ones, when it came to the possibility that others have different lives. For example, if you say “What about all the people who don’t make enough to afford health insurance?”, they’ll tell you those people should get better jobs.

If you ask, “Are there jobs with health insurance for every last one of the workers who don’t have it now?” they’ll tell you about A JOB that is going begging.

If you point out that half the jobs in America pay less than median wage, they’ll STILL tell you those below the median should get better jobs.

It’s aggressively nonsensical.

153 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:36:04pm

re: #152 GeneJockey

I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.

154 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:36:29pm

re: #151 FemNaziBitch

I’ve become so much more empathetic since the pain set in.

It’s because one becomes busy with their own pain. “Ouch my leg is killing me today” rather than worrying about putting my hand on my waist a certain way. :D

155 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:37:55pm

re: #153 FemNaziBitch

I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.

Then the same Conservative will explain why lower paying jobs are so much more available than higher paying jobs. Basic economics, the higher the price, in theory, the rarer the item.

I really have violent-type impulses at this point. I want to just bang my head against the wall.

156 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:38:03pm

Heard about Illinois. That’s welcome news.

157 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:38:54pm

re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg

lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.

Is that what you’ve been told?

158 sagehen  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:40:14pm

re: #6 Mike Lamb

And I wonder how the usage of ER rooms and their associated expenses plays out gender-wise and what those costs do to the risk pool…

The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).

So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.

(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).

159 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:40:47pm

re: #152 GeneJockey

Yeah. I ran into walls in discussions with Conservatives, even relatively intelligent ones, when it came to the possibility that others have different lives. For example, if you say “What about all the people who don’t make enough to afford health insurance?”, they’ll tell you those people should get better jobs.

If you ask, “Are there jobs with health insurance for every last one of the workers who don’t have it now?” they’ll tell you about A JOB that is going begging.

If you point out that half the jobs in America pay less than median wage, they’ll STILL tell you those below the median should get better jobs.

It’s aggressively nonsensical.

For all their claims to understand economics better than liberals, I think it is often conservatives who don’t understand economics. After all these guys back the party that thinks we keep on spending and spending on defense while at the same giving tax cuts to the wealthiest part of the population or in some cases outright abolishing income tax period is sound economic theory. I love how though speaking of moral issues, it’s a moral issue to deny gay couples marriage rights but we’re not under any obligation so poor kids won’t starve or receive a quality education. It’s always the so-con issues that they talk about these value voters conventions and I’ll tell you why. IT’s not about values to them. It’s about controlling people.

160 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:42:45pm

I am now convinced Peter Coyote narrates every documentary in the entire Western Hemisphere.

161 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:14pm

re: #158 sagehen

The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).

So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.

(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).

Pfft, don’t you know, women are supposed to bear the entire physical and financial burden of pregnancy and children.

But remember, we should be available to provide the man with sex any time he wants, and we shouldn’t be doing anything to prevent the aforementioned pregnancy.

//////

162 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:30pm

re: #159 HappyWarrior

For all their claims to understand economics better than liberals, I think it is often conservatives who don’t understand economics. After all these guys back the party that thinks we keep on spending and spending on defense while at the same giving tax cuts to the wealthiest part of the population or in some cases outright abolishing income tax period is sound economic theory. I love how though speaking of moral issues, it’s a moral issue to deny gay couples marriage rights but we’re not under any obligation so poor kids won’t starve or receive a quality education. It’s always the so-con issues that they talk about these value voters conventions and I’ll tell you why. IT’s not about values to them. It’s about controlling people.

Petit Bourgeoisie understand the only economics that keep their feudal lords prosperous enough to need their services.

163 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:34pm

re: #153 FemNaziBitch

I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.

It’s what’s so seductive about the religion of the Free Market. Belief that you’re rewarded or punished according to how hard you work etc. allows the believer to ignore the reality of privilege, not to mention its opposite as it affects those who DON’T end up well off.

The belief of all these middle class, middle aged white guys, who lucked into the best time to grow up a middle class white guy, is that they EARNED everything they have. I was talking about being fortunate, and one guy said he wasn’t fortunate AT ALL! He’d done it all himself!

But of course, it turned out his parents had paid for his college, and loaned him money for law school, and of course he had been fortunate enough to graduate into a world full of well-paying jobs for new graduates, not to mention having gone to a high school that taught him well enough to get into the school, AND that his parents had good jobs and valued education.

No, it was all him.

164 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:44:07pm

After 30+ years of tax cuts for the rich, trickle down economics and destroying unions, you would think the free market would be providing high paying jobs with a shorter work week to all Americans.

Funny how that hasn’t happened.

165 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:45:12pm

re: #163 GeneJockey

It’s what’s so seductive about the religion of the Free Market. Belief that you’re rewarded or punished according to how hard you work etc. allows the believer to ignore the reality of privilege, not to mention its opposite as it affects those who DON’T end up well off.

The belief of all these middle class, middle aged white guys, who lucked into the best time to grow up a middle class white guy, is that they EARNED everything they have. I was talking about being fortunate, and one guy said he wasn’t fortunate AT ALL! He’d done it all himself!

But of course, it turned out his parents had paid for his college, and loaned him money for law school, and of course he had been fortunate enough to graduate into a world full of well-paying jobs for new graduates, not to mention having gone to a high school that taught him well enough to get into the school, AND that his parents had good jobs and valued education.

No, it was all him.

The very people who will tell you to read I Pencil, no less.

166 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:45:53pm

re: #124 Gus

Ha!

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Yeah, it’s an important reminder for me. As much as I’ve changed over the years, many things are still the same.

167 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:46:19pm

The funny thing is women tend to live a fair bit longer than men and be healthier in their older age.

168 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:46:53pm

So it turns out that (a*(ab|ba)*a*)|b and (a*(aba|ba)*a*b?)|b are very, very different and only one will reject all strings with “bb” as a substring.

Fortunately I figured this out before I have to hand in the homework.

169 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:10pm

Dogs have been vocally petitioning for dinner since 4pm. Dinner time is 6. I think I’m worn down.

bbl

170 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:12pm
171 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:50pm

Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.

172 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:52pm

re: #168 klys

So it turns out that (a*(ab|ba)*a*)|b and (a*(aba|ba)*a*b?)|b are very, very different and only one will reject all strings with “bb” as a substring.

Fortunately I figured this out before I have to hand in the homework.

Ah, regular expressions. The quantum physics of the Computer Science universe. They’re the glue that holds everything together, and yet utterly incomprehensible.

173 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:48:56pm

Portlandia!

Raw video: Police get in scuffle with Million Mask marchers

katu.com

Could anyone tell what was going on? The cops threw their bicycles down in the street…

174 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:49:24pm

re: #77 thedopefishlives

You, me, and every other decent self-respecting individual. The conservative Christian community makes a big deal out of putting women on this pedestal, but to be honest, many of them are so sexually repressed they’re practically in Narnia.

They put women in a hole but call it a pedestal.

175 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:49:33pm

re: #172 thedopefishlives

Ah, regular expressions. The quantum physics of the Computer Science universe. They’re the glue that holds everything together, and yet utterly incomprehensible.

Next up: writing a regular expression for the walk with a dog on a leash of length 2 where you both have to end up in the same place.

My current favorite is “strangle the dog with the leash and call it done.”

176 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:12pm

re: #79 GeneJockey

An Aussie Scientist friend of mine, who works in Reproductive Endocrinology, was introducing a Kiwi friend’s talk at a conference, with the usual rundown of his CV. He said, “And at this point in his career, he confirmed certain suspicions about New Zealanders by deciding to study Ovine Reproduction.”

All I know is, it’s the Royal Australian Navy that uses the phrase, “Abandon sheep!”

Accent humour doesn’t travel to well, I fear.

177 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:52pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.

The girl I was talking to was wondering why the BBC was calling the million moron march a Guy Fawkes protest.

178 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:55pm

re: #175 klys

Next up: writing a regular expression for the walk with a dog on a leash of length 2 where you both have to end up in the same place.

My current favorite is “strangle the dog with the leash and call it done.”

When writing regular expressions, the first question you should ask is, “Do I really need a regex to solve this problem?” The answer is always no; it’s just a rhetorical device to get you to slow down and think about what the HELL kind of destruction you’re about to unleash upon the world.

179 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:18pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

Portlandia!

Raw video: Police get in scuffle with Million Mask marchers

katu.com

Could anyone tell what was going on? The cops threw their bicycles down in the street…

They’d get in trouble if they took the time to park ‘em on their kickstands.

180 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:19pm

re: #164 Kragar

After 30+ years of tax cuts for the rich, trickle down economics and destroying unions, you would think the free market would be providing high paying jobs with a shorter work week to all Americans.

Funny how that hasn’t happened.

Conservative Economics is like Creation Science. It starts from a conclusion and looks for evidence that supports it. Counterevidence is ignored. Failure of hypotheses to make accurate predictions is ignored. BEING FUCKING WRONG, REPEATEDLY is ignored.

This is how you can have folks like Larry Kudlow, who said in 2008, “Dude, where’s my recession” just before the bottom fell out of the economy, then predicted rampant inflation and hugely rising interest rates that have not materialized for FIVE GODDAM YEARS not only not being pointed at and ridiculed, but actually still having a paying gig talking about the economy.

181 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:30pm

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.

I already have a prostate so I’ll pick a uterus/vagina pair.

182 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:53:08pm

re: #178 thedopefishlives

When writing regular expressions, the first question you should ask is, “Do I really need a regex to solve this problem?” The answer is always no; it’s just a rhetorical device to get you to slow down and think about what the HELL kind of destruction you’re about to unleash upon the world.

Unfortunately, the answer to that question here is: yes, because the problem requires that I write the answer as a regex.

At least they helpfully provide a nice online testing and submission tool. I have the test strings entered and it will update dynamically to show me if it will accept or reject them.

183 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:53:44pm

re: #177 Kragar

The girl I was talking to was wondering why the BBC was calling the million moron march a Guy Fawkes protest.

lol

184 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:54:56pm

re: #124 Gus

Ha!

[Embedded content]

Rofl.

185 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:30pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.

Same way I do.
By facepalming.

186 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:33pm

re: #182 klys

Unfortunately, the answer to that question here is: yes, because the problem requires that I write the answer as a regex.

At least they helpfully provide a nice online testing and submission tool. I have the test strings entered and it will update dynamically to show me if it will accept or reject them.

I’ve found regular expressions incredibly useful in my day job, but mainly thanks to Visual Studio’s search-and-replace function that enables regexes. It lets me do finer-tuned search and replace than the default functionality, which is handy when the business requires a complete database table/column schema naming convention reversion but you don’t want to touch the actual class objects, only the queries.

187 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:54pm


re: #184 Varek Raith

Rofl.

Called it!

188 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:56:14pm

Clearly lessons weren’t learned since they done fucked up again.

189 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:56:48pm

re: #186 thedopefishlives

They do seem fun.

I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.

190 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:57:34pm

re: #189 klys

They do seem fun.

I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.

Write a python script.
Problem solved.
/

191 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:57:55pm

re: #189 klys

They do seem fun.

I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.

It’s incredibly satisfying to write one that actually does something useful and get it right. That feeling of horror when an end user calls in with a bug and you trace it back to that incomprehensible regex and wonder where all your matches went, though, is also second to none.

192 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:01:01pm

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

193 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:02:57pm

re: #190 Varek Raith

Write a python script.
Problem solved.
/

OK, he have a diner filled with Vikings, and we talk about spam.

194 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:04:07pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

Dog hair.

195 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:04:22pm
196 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:02pm

re: #194 b_sharp

Dog hair.

No, hair of the dog is for something else entirely.

197 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:18pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

Angel dandruff?

Volcanic ash?

Cottonwood seeds?

198 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:34pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

Send it to me. I will do a thorough scientific inspection and report back to you.

199 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:06:02pm

re: #196 thedopefishlives

No, hair of the dog is for something else entirely.

Yup…

Youtube Video

200 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:06:21pm

re: #197 austin_blue

Angel dandruff?

Volcanic ash?

Cottonwood seeds?

Meringue? Whipped cream?

201 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:02pm

re: #158 sagehen

The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).

So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.

(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).

My point was only that I would speculate that men use ER’s on a far more regular basis than woman—i.e. men use it almost as primary care—very, very expensive primary care. Women in the risk pool are subsidizing those costs. Or stated otherwise, the argument that women use health care services more therefore they should have to pay more probably isn’t borne out by the evidence or the discrepancy isn’t as large as the sensationalist Fox Snooze discussion would have it seem.

202 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:10pm

re: #197 austin_blue

Angel dandruff?

Volcanic ash?

Cottonwood seeds?

Ugh, cottonwood seeds. I had two of those bloody trees in my yard when I lived in the lakeside cabin. I hated those things, the seeds got all over my truck and were thoroughly annoying.

203 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:18pm

re: #196 thedopefishlives

No, hair of the dog is for something else entirely.

I use it for everything.

204 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:18pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

At my house, it would be an indicator that the male Greyhound had gotten into the bathroom trash - again! - and shredded a bunch of kleenex.

205 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:08:54pm

re: #200 Justanotherhuman

Meringue? Whipped cream?

“…Wintrex, a substance that looks more like snow on film than actual snow.”

206 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:03pm

re: #130 FemNaziBitch

Cheaper unless you are found at fault in an accident that includes bodily unjury of the other person or death. Then you are in bad, bad shape.

Depends on who you are related to here….
/not kidding…

207 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:17pm

re: #202 thedopefishlives

Ugh, cottonwood seeds. I had two of those bloody trees in my yard when I lived in the lakeside cabin. I hated those things, the seeds got all over my truck and were thoroughly annoying.

They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.

208 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:20pm

re: #203 b_sharp

I use it for everything.

Spot remover, memory remover, inhibition remover….

209 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:38pm

re: #207 austin_blue

They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.

I never thought to try, but now that I think about that, that must be highly entertaining. Also dangerous.

210 Lidane  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:10:06pm

re: #195 Kragar

I KNEW IT! Obummer and his team put the “Libertarian” in as a plant!

/Freeper

211 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:10:27pm

re: #207 austin_blue

They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.

I sense the voice of experience here.

212 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:11:22pm

re: #209 thedopefishlives

I never thought to try, but now that I think about that, that must be highly entertaining. Also dangerous.

Boy, howdy. They burn like flash paper.

213 sagehen  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:12:17pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

Asbestos.

RUN!!!

214 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:12:42pm

re: #212 austin_blue

Boy, howdy. They burn like flash paper.

I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.

Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:15pm

re: #140 thedopefishlives

Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.

I have one brother…
I think Aunty Entity Dragon and I have the same brother.

sigh…

216 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:16pm

Man jumps from helicopter…

217 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:29pm

re: #214 klys

I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.

Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…

That’s why I stay away from open fires.

218 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:50pm

re: #214 klys

I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.

Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…

I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.

219 b_sharp  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:14:02pm

re: #216 Gus

Man jumps from helicopter…

Thinks he’s a turkey?

220 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:14:36pm

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.

I won’t lie, that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.

221 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:02pm

re: #220 klys

I won’t lie, that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.

Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.

222 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:29pm

re: #211 klys

I sense the voice of experience here.

That would be me, dancing in the back yard like a monkey on barbwire.

223 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:50pm

re: #216 Gus

Man jumps from helicopter…

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:56pm

re: #150 FemNaziBitch

I think by the time a person is 40 or 50, everyone has some pre-existing condition. At the very least knee pain.

A woman has a pre-existing condition since puberty.
Just sayin’….

225 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:07pm

It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?

It was always assumed that the Church of England would blaze a trail for the Catholics in terms of roles for women, but as speculation mounts that the Pope may appoint the first female cardinal, Cathy Newman urges Anglicans to seize the day.

226 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:30pm

re: #201 Mike Lamb

My point was only that I would speculate that men use ER’s on a far more regular basis than woman—i.e. men use it almost as primary care—very, very expensive primary care. Women in the risk pool are subsidizing those costs. Or stated otherwise, the argument that women use health care services more therefore they should have to pay more probably isn’t borne out by the evidence or the discrepancy isn’t as large as the sensationalist Fox Snooze discussion would have it seem.

The only study I could find says women use the ER more than men do. That was a 1991 study. I was surprised not to find anything more recent, even in Related Articles.

EDIT - found several newer studies. They say more women use the ER than man. Not by a lot, but consistently.

227 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:30pm

re: #221 thedopefishlives

Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.

Have you gotten the chance to see their live stage show? Well worth it if they are in your area.

I have phone photos from the front row somewhere… (I am that dork.)

228 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:35pm

re: #221 thedopefishlives

On a more serious related note, my dad used to work in the processed food industry. He had a co-worker who was in a wheat processing plant when a flour dust explosion occurred. It drove a piece of debris through a thick glass window in the control room, narrowly missing spearing someone in the head.

229 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:17:15pm

re: #227 klys

Have you gotten the chance to see their live stage show? Well worth it if they are in your area.

I have phone photos from the front row somewhere… (I am that dork.)

I have not, but meeting Jamie and Adam is most definitely on my bucket list.

230 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:17:59pm

re: #228 thedopefishlives

On a more serious related note, my dad used to work in the processed food industry. He had a co-worker who was in a wheat processing plant when a flour dust explosion occurred. It drove a piece of debris through a thick glass window in the control room, narrowly missing spearing someone in the head.

Grain silos, too. Folks who work in those will frequently have special tools which are less prone to causing sparks. (I believe these were the same tools we had for working near the magnet, since they were non-magnetic.)

231 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:18:49pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?

Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?

This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.

(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)

232 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:20:49pm

re: #231 austin_blue

Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?

This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.

(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)

Apparently you can-at least theoretically.

233 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:20:58pm

re: #230 klys

Grain silos, too. Folks who work in those will frequently have special tools which are less prone to causing sparks. (I believe these were the same tools we had for working near the magnet, since they were non-magnetic.)

Berylium-Copper. I still have a screwdriver that was used in Class I explosives areas. Won’t spark, but can cause toxic wounds, and cancer if grinding fines are inhaled.

234 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:21:42pm

re: #232 calochortus

Apparently you can-at least theoretically.

Yes—but you can’t be Pope (Bishop of Rome).

235 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:00pm

re: #221 thedopefishlives

Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.

I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.

236 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:29pm

re: #233 Decatur Deb

Berylium-Copper. I still have a screwdriver that was used in Class I explosives areas. Won’t spark, but can cause toxic wounds, and cancer if grinding fines are inhaled.

Given my salary as a grad student, I would have opted for watching my fingers and toes and breathing instead of accidentally getting a screwdriver stuck to the 600MHz.

237 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:41pm

re: #234 Decatur Deb

Yes—but you can’t be Pope (Bishop of Rome).

It might be interesting if you could…

238 Lidane  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:13pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?

You’re delusional if you think that’s going to happen. For all his outreach, Pope Francis isn’t that much of a liberal. Case in point:

Pope Francis Excommunicates Priest Who Backed Women’s Ordination and Gays

239 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:24pm

re: #231 austin_blue

Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?

This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.

(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)

I don’t get it either, I looked around for the source of the rumor or an explanation of hot this might work but didn’t find much. Maybe it’s a trial balloon testing reaction or something. But I suppose if he can manage to get a female cardinal then female priests would be a foregone conclusion.

240 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:51pm

re: #235 GeneJockey

I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.

One of my favorite slo-mo shots is the RPG fired through the tin trailer. A lot of people don’t realize how directional shaped charges really are.

241 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:05pm

re: #235 GeneJockey

I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.

Actually, the dump truck is one of the few they don’t have high speed video for, because it failed.

On the fusing metal (final iteration of compact-compact) episode (first appearance of the rocket sled!) they have a beautiful shockwave caught on high speed, though, where you can see the shadow of the shockwave on the ground as it advances.

/Mythbusters trivia

242 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:23pm

re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea

Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.

Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.

Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.

Ah, the ol’ pocket Jesus. You whip him out when needed, and keep him stowed away when you want to ignore him. 1-2-3 Easy Christianity.

243 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:24pm

re: #232 calochortus

Apparently you can-at least theoretically.

ah, thanks. Just what I was looking for. Interesting possibility.

244 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:25:45pm

re: #239 Killgore Trout

I don’t get it either, I looked around for the source of the rumor or an explanation of hot this might work but didn’t find much. Maybe it’s a trial balloon testing reaction or something. But I suppose if he can manage to get a female cardinal then female priests would be a foregone conclusion.

Reads as a backhand to the Anglicans. There was a very good Inspector Morse that revolved about women priests and…Murder.

245 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:25:52pm

re: #192 thedopefishlives

Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!

time to fire up the blower!

246 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:15pm

re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth

time to fire up the blower!

I fueled, oiled, and aired it all up yesterday. It’s go time.

247 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:28pm

re: #241 klys

Actually, the dump truck is one of the few they don’t have high speed video for, because it failed.

On the fusing metal (final iteration of compact-compact) episode (first appearance of the rocket sled!) they have a beautiful shockwave caught on high speed, though, where you can see the shadow of the shockwave on the ground as it advances.

/Mythbusters trivia

Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
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248 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:49pm

re: #232 calochortus

Apparently you can-at least theoretically.

Well, theoretically, that lottery ticket I bought means I’m a millionaire, but I doubt if it’ll get me a bank loan.

249 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:27:28pm

re: #247 GeneJockey

Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
////////////////////

You are one up on me. :)

I haven’t gotten to meet any of them in person. Just watch the episodes over and over and over again for background noise.

250 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:28:28pm

re: #247 GeneJockey

Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
////////////////////

I (and 200,000 others) were part of their seismic experiment at the Stewart/Colbert Sanity rally. We jumped in ‘unison’.

251 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:28:52pm

re: #246 thedopefishlives

I fueled, oiled, and aired it all up yesterday. It’s go time.

I knew that…you go!

252 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:33pm

The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.

The RATs made this election about birth control and abortion. They used the same playbook used in Missouri and Indiana last year …

Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
And

As sickening as it sounds but women love abortion..I will never understand it but its true..women love to murder their unborn babies..when you have women in Texas cheering “Hail Satan” for Wendy Davis, it pretty much defines who they are

I’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/

253 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:45pm

re: #249 klys

You are one up on me. :)

I haven’t gotten to meet any of them in person. Just watch the episodes over and over and over again for background noise.

It was entirely by chance. I can’t even remember what it was I went there for. It took me a moment to figure out what was going on, because for some reason my mind didn’t tell me at first that these were the guys I saw on TV all the time. It’s not like they look any different in real life.

254 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:30:38pm
255 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:01pm

re: #218 thedopefishlives

I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.

Best thing to know about most flammable liquids: liquid burns, vapor explodes.

256 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:20pm

re: #252 calochortus

The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.

Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
And

I’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/

(Gathers his liberal lachrymatory, heads for Feep.)

257 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:22pm

re: #254 Kragar

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*less than one percent of the vote.

258 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:35pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.

ummm…it’s cold, we haz adult beverages, let’s build a huge freakin’ bonfire!

Disclaimer: I have actually been in Britain for Guy Fawkes night bonfire festivities…and strangely, I do remember it…but those cheesy masks were not part of the celebrations.

259 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:43pm

re: #254 Kragar

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Well, it’s over, might as well start drinking now.

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260 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:32:57pm

Election results so far.
nbcwashington.com

261 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:33:43pm

re: #257 calochortus

*less than one percent of the vote.

HEY!! HOW DID CUCCINELLI LOSE!?!? HE STARTED OUT WITH 52.85 OF THE VOTE, BUT THEN THEY CHANGED IT!!! ACORN!!!!

262 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:33:46pm

I don’t want to trust too much to exit polling. Let’s see how the results start rolling in.

263 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:10pm

re: #259 Targetpractice

Well, it’s over, might as well start drinking now.

///

Guess I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.

264 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:50pm
265 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:57pm

re: #50 thedopefishlives

It’s a man-centric idea, naturally. It’s funny how many stupid ideas turn out to be that way.

Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…

266 thedopefishlives  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:05pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…

Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.

267 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:10pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…

Bomp chicka bomp bomp

268 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:25pm
269 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:50pm

re: #264 Vicious Babushka

ELECTION RESULTS IN REAL TIME.

Lightly populated counties sounding off first for Cucci. Shocker.///

270 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:08pm

re: #255 AlexRogan

Best thing to know about most flammable liquids: liquid burns, vapor explodes.

And jet fuel (either diesel or napthalene based), goes from liquid -> vapor at between 85 to 93 degrees, based on humidity and pressure. At 8o degrees, you can throw lit matches into a pail of diesel all day and waste matches.

The exception is a high-speed impact that atomizes the fuel like…oh, wait.

271 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:12pm

Anyone have a link to the Alabama results?

272 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:12pm

re: #266 thedopefishlives

Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.

Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a desk or something?
//

273 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:26pm

re: #262 thedopefishlives

I don’t want to trust too much to exit polling. Let’s see how the results start rolling in.

Always a wise choice.

274 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:42pm

re: #266 thedopefishlives

Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.

There’s a book my wife gave me shortly after we got married called “She comes first”. As you might guess, it’s about pleasing your lady. One of the big, big points the book makes is that the first rule to properly pleasuring your lady is to completely forget EVERYTHING you’ve seen in porn.

275 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:43pm

re: #266 thedopefishlives

Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.

Fun fact: Some of the funniest bloopers you will ever see in your life come from pornos.

Girl in 6” high heels: “WHO THE FUCK WAXED THESE GOD DAMN FLOORS?”

276 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:44pm

re: #272 GeneJockey

Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a desk or something?
//

Who said this wasn’t an educational website?

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:39:08pm

re: #272 GeneJockey

Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a desk kitchen stove/sink or something?
//

FIFY

278 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:39:43pm

re: #269 Targetpractice

Lightly populated counties sounding off first for Cucci. Shocker.///

Yeah no one saw that one coming.

279 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:40:26pm

re: #60 FemNaziBitch

You know last month, after nearly 10 years together, LGBT friends of mine got married.

My life hasn’t been affected one bit.

I beg to differ!

You would never have gotten to write that and know it is a good thing. A positive effect.

280 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:41:43pm

re: #252 calochortus

The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.

Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
And

I’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/

And that’s not the TP’s fault at all.//

281 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:42:00pm

re: #271 Eclectic Cyborg

Anyone have a link to the Alabama results?

Yes. Things suck here.

282 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:42:22pm

re: #279 ObserverArt

I beg to differ!

You would never have gotten to write that and know it is a good thing. A positive effect.

Updinged and QFT.

Damn good point.

283 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:43:15pm

Another classic:

“YOU LIKE THAT?! YOU LIKE THAT?!”

“Steve, you’re fucking a pillow.”

“… Oh.”

284 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:43:47pm

re: #280 HappyWarrior

And that’s not the TP’s fault at all.//

Only in that they weren’t paying enough attention and have a candidate who isn’t conservative enough.

285 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:21pm

re: #281 Decatur Deb

Yes. Things suck here.

Do you mind sharing? Google seems to be letting me down tonight.

286 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:24pm

re: #265 ObserverArt

Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…

Ah, the “Golden Age of Porn”.

Now I’ll have to watch “Boogie Nights” again.

287 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:27pm

Hey, DF? You want to read this post at a photo web site I frequent…

theonlinephotographer.typepad.com

288 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:48pm
289 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:46:24pm

re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg

Do you mind sharing? Google seems to be letting me down tonight.

Oh.. You mean the election? Polls aren’t closed yet.

290 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:46:33pm

Quick everybody, look surprised:

Gubernatorial Race Too Close To Call As Polls Close In Virginia

Polls in Virginia have closed, but NBC News and CNN both say the gubernatorial race between Democrat Terry McAuliffe and Republican state Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is still too close to call.

291 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:46:34pm

And on that note, I begin my commute home.

292 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:47:21pm

Michael Steele’s a revisionist liar. Claiming they never attacked Obama as a person when he was RNC chair. I am glad he called Preibus however as a hypocritical douche.

294 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:48:40pm

re: #226 GeneJockey

The only study I could find says women use the ER more than men do. That was a 1991 study. I was surprised not to find anything more recent, even in Related Articles.

EDIT - found several newer studies. They say more women use the ER than man. Not by a lot, but consistently.

That’s really surprising to me.

295 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:48:50pm
296 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:52:44pm

re: #295 Vicious Babushka

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Precisely.

297 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:56:09pm

I hope McAuliffe wins with over 50% of the vote so we won’t have to hear the likely excuse that Sarvis took votes away from Cucci. I believe that he did take away more from Cucci than McAuliffe but that does ignore that there were plenty of Democratic protest votes for Sarvis too.

298 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:59:40pm

The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.

Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.

299 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:00:46pm

re: #298 calochortus

The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.

Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.

Of course, voter fraud. Funny how that’s a problem in Virginia where Republicans have more control on the local leevl but not New Jersey where Dems do but yet the Republicans are winning the more blue Jersey and Democrats teh more historically red Republican.

300 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:02:26pm

re: #294 Mike Lamb

That’s really surprising to me.

Could be that women are more often victims of domestic abuse.
Also to consider, women as primary caregivers are more likely to bring their children to the ER.
And I really hate to generalize, but it’s been my experience that men won’t go to the ER unless they are dying (or think they are). But most of my experience is with farmers who, if a finger gets severed during harvest/haying, will keep working until the work is done, all the while saying “it’s just a scratch…”

301 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:05:19pm

re: #298 calochortus

The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.

Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.

Prayer worked out so well for them in 2012…

302 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:05:35pm

re: #299 HappyWarrior

Of course, voter fraud. Funny how that’s a problem in Virginia where Republicans have more control on the local leevl but not New Jersey where Dems do but yet the Republicans are winning the more blue Jersey and Democrats teh more historically red Republican.

Yeah, I know-I think the significant part is that some folks seem to realize that theirs is not actually the majority position, especially on social issues. Not that they think they are wrong, but they aren’t blaming rampant fraud for the results.

303 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:15pm

Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.

304 blueraven  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:20pm

re: #294 Mike Lamb

That’s really surprising to me.

I wouldn’t doubt that the difference is pregnancy related.

305 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:48pm

re: #303 Skip Intro

Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.

nytimes.com

Notice something?
;)

306 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:05pm

re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth

Could be that women are more often victims of domestic abuse.
Also to consider, women as primary caregivers are more likely to bring their children to the ER.
And I really hate to generalize, but it’s been my experience that men won’t go to the ER unless they are dying (or think they are). But most of my experience is with farmers who, if a finger gets severed during harvest/haying, will keep working until the work is done, all the while saying “it’s just a scratch…”

It’s not just you. Men in general are much less willing to seek medical help, fearing to be seen as unmanly.

307 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:07pm

re: #303 Skip Intro

Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.

Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com

308 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:46pm
309 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:16pm

re: #304 blueraven

I wouldn’t doubt that the difference is pregnancy related.

Plus, in addition to going in for routine stuff, women usually have to make a separate appointment for pap smears, mammograms, and what not.

310 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:47pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com

Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.

311 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:50pm

re: #294 Mike Lamb

That’s really surprising to me.

Men don’t go to see a doctor until something is broken, falling off, or pumping a lot of blood. We don’t generally get bladder infections, beat up, or pelvic exams. Women are much more prone to debilitating migraines. Guys suck it up, often to their detriment. Women don’t. They are smarter than we are.

312 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:59pm

re: #307 HappyWarrior

Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com

The same during the 2012 race. Romney was ahead for a long time and then bam! NoVa and Norfolk city started results started coming in.

313 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:39pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.

Sorry. These are the more small and rural counties. Fairfax County, Arlington County, Alexandria, Richmond, and the Southeast hasn’t come out yet.

314 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:40pm

re: #310 Skip Intro

Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.

Ok.
The majority of precincts reported so far are Republican.

315 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:58pm

re: #112 goddamnedfrank

Yep, the pigments in paint are carried by a solvent, and I very much doubt that the people making Guy Fawkes masks are using water base. Dudebros don’t want their masks running in the rain. When the paint dries the solvent doesn’t just magically disappear, if it’s VOC based it has to be captured in giant charcoal hvac filters and disposed of properly or it just floats outside where it causes all kinds of environmental problems.

Frank, just wanted to point out, some auto body shops in America will be soon or are already using water based acrylic enamels. Low pressure application, runs together for a nice wet-blended finish, etc. and when dry is as tough and water proof as enamel as we knew it.

And in that same line, I have a century old house I am s-l-o-w-l-y restoring and the new 25-year latex exterior paint, while hard to work with, is some tough stuff. Last year I did an area, and then discovered I had an area to re-repair and needed to strip the paint that had only dried a few days earlier and it was a bitch to scrape, sand or heat gun it off. It doesn’t chalk, is hard to scratch, etc.

Better living through chemistry.

316 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:59pm

re: #312 Varek Raith

The same during the 2012 race. Romney was ahead for a long time and then bam! NoVa and Norfolk city started results started coming in.

Yep, it’s been like this ever since I started following politics.

317 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:11:05pm

What’s really troubling for Ken is the numbers Sarvis has so far.
Ouch.

318 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:11:22pm

I hope Obensham loses too. He’s just as right wing as Cucci and Jackson are. Just not as nasty a person.

319 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:01pm

re: #313 HappyWarrior

Sorry. These are the more small and rural counties. Fairfax County, Arlington County, Alexandria, Richmond, and the Southeast hasn’t come out yet.

How come Southampton isn’t connected to Northampton?

320 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:29pm

re: #319 Skip Intro

How come Southampton isn’t connected to Northampton?

Shit I dunno, I’m in NOVA.

321 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:42pm


322 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:44pm

Sarvis’ take is down 3 points since l checked at 20% reporting, but that’s still far ahead of where the “unskewed” crowd said he’d be before the whole thing ended. He’s gotta lose another 5% and all of that going to Cucci in order to beat the pre-election polls.

323 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:45pm
324 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:13:14pm

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Shit I dunno, I’m in NOVA.

Same.
;)

325 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:13:16pm

re: #321 jaunte

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And this is why E.W Jackson will never be elected to anything ever.

326 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:14:07pm

re: #325 HappyWarrior

He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.

327 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:14:49pm

re: #326 jaunte

He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.

I dunno, the man is fantastic at pissing off everyone.

328 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:15:27pm

re: #326 jaunte

He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.

I don’t know. He may be too nuts for David Barton even. Not sure if //.

329 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:15:41pm

good one Joanne!

330 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:16:01pm

And Illinois is about to legalize SSM. There’s some technicalities that have to be addressed by the legislature over effective dates, but Gov. Quinn indicated he’d sign it.

It’s a wave. A wave that keeps growing across the country, and the GOP isn’t liking this one bit as their social agenda is showing signs of necrosis. So, they’re pushing back, and they’re doing it on the one area they think they have advantages - abortion and womens’ rights.

331 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:17:49pm

Sarvis at 7% with 36% in.

332 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:18:11pm

re: #330 lawhawk

And Illinois is about to legalize SSM. There’s some technicalities that have to be addressed by the legislature over effective dates, but Gov. Quinn indicated he’d sign it.

It’s a wave. A wave that keeps growing across the country, and the GOP isn’t liking this one bit as their social agenda is showing signs of necrosis. So, they’re pushing back, and they’re doing it on the one area they think they have advantages - abortion and womens’ rights.

Which is another indication they have no idea what ‘demographics’ are. Only 10-12% of the population is gay, but 51% are female.

Maybe they think demographics are for Democrats. Which I guess they are, now.

333 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:19:20pm

re: #329 Backwoods_Sleuth

Cuccinelli blew it… /

334 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:19:27pm

re: #331 Varek Raith

Sarvis at 7% with 36% in.

I predicted he’d get 8. I think more closer to 6-6.5% by the end of the night. I thought it was pretty telling that Luap Nor endorsed Cucci and not Sarvice but then again I am actually not shocked given I know Luap Nor is on board with the so-con agenda as seen by his endorsements of Baldwin for president in 2008 and now Cucci for governor.

335 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:21:21pm

Virginia 2012 election results. Some perspective.
Image: Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_by_County_2012.png

336 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:20pm

re: #129 FemNaziBitch

I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.

I think it is a combination of fear of being seen as too sensitive, admitting being afraid and appearances of being a man, whatever that happens to be at the time, especially if their is a group-think-look going on.

And that also seems to figure into how some women seem to want the bad-boy-manly-man and even accept his bad behavior if he happens to abuse them.

Shit be real complicated. I know one thing, this type of conversation makes people of both sexes uneasy if it gets down into the nitty-gritty and starts going into directions or corners people don’t want to admit about themselves.

And there is the real problem, many people just never sit down and figure themselves out as it likely scares them if the get too deep. The proverbial keeping your emotions bottled up.

337 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:22pm

re: #335 Varek Raith

Virginia 2012 election results. Some perspective.
Image: Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_by_County_2012.png

So you’re saying it’s not time to panic yet?

338 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:46pm

re: #337 jamesfirecat

So you’re saying it’s not time to panic yet?

Nope.

339 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:24:07pm

re: #338 Varek Raith

Nope.

Er…
Yep?
Don’t panic.
;)

340 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:25:01pm

re: #339 Varek Raith

Er…
Yep?
Don’t panic.
;)

yes, we have no bananas

341 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:25:48pm

I keep making the mistake of checking the liveblog thread at Dkos. There’s always panic as the rural precincts report in deeply red, every goddam time. Not good for my blood pressure!

342 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:24pm

re: #341 GeneJockey

People forget how many people live in the cities.

343 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:37pm
344 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:43pm


The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.

345 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:02pm

re: #342 jaunte

People forget how many people live in the cities.

I thought it was acreage that got to vote?
/

346 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:10pm
347 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:14pm

Meanwhile, in the race for the comeback of the year, there are no results in yet for the Schuylkill County Sheriff election.

348 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:19pm

re: #344 lawhawk

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The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.

Giggity.

349 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:04pm

re: #345 calochortus

Look at how red this map is!!!

350 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:27pm

re: #344 lawhawk

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The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.

Do they really have to count the Democratic strongholds?

351 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:57pm

re: #349 jaunte

Look at how red this map is!!!

I’ve actually seen RWNJs try to argue that the fact they win smaller counties means they’ better represent the state. Uh no guys.

352 missliberties  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:59pm

This is making me crazy. Cooch can’t win. No NO NO. And yes I am panicing.

As I recall Virginia was a late call for Obama, because the D counties get voted last?

353 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:08pm

re: #342 jaunte

People forget how many people live in the cities.

That’s because they’re not the REAL Americans.

354 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:10pm
355 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:11pm

Basically, most of the Dem enclaves in Va haven’t had their numbers reported yet. And if they did, it’s a small amount.

356 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:23pm

re: #352 missliberties

This is making me crazy. Cooch can’t win. No NO NO. And yes I am panicing.

As I recall Virginia was a late call for Obama, because the D counties get voted last?

Don’t panic.

357 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:07pm

re: #157 b_sharp

Is that what you’ve been told?

Do the female members use the term ‘measure up?’

/////

Damn this thread is flying…I’ll never catch up!

: )

358 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:26pm

re: #353 GeneJockey

That’s because they’re not the REAL Americans.

Which is hilarious given that America has been a predominately urban nation since 1900 I believe. When I hear people bitch about the cities and more liberal suburbs, I hear someone who can’t deal with the fact that America’s not the lily white Protestant country it once was.

359 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:27pm

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Don’t panic.

QFT.
Trust us Not Real Virginians.
;)

361 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:10pm

re: #359 Varek Raith

QFT.
Trust us Not Real Virginians.
;)

Heh, I’m really interested in seeing how the delegate race turns out here. Costello-Daniel ran a great race. Very positive.

362 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:35pm

Sometimes, even experienced election watchers mistake the percent ot precincts reporting for the percent of votes counted. So people might thing 30% of the votes are in when it’s 30% of precincts.

363 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:58pm

re: #341 GeneJockey

I keep making the mistake of checking the liveblog thread at Dkos. There’s always panic as the rural precincts report in deeply red, every goddam time. Not good for my blood pressure!

By the same token, as urban results come in and the pendulum swings from red to blue, freeps start howling about voter fraud, no?

364 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:13pm

re: #354 jaunte

When that fails, always try “Bitch set me up!” Or, “I’m Rick James, Bitch.” Both have worked out pretty good in the long term. /

365 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:21pm

I’ve seen it seriously suggested that the urban areas report later than the rural counties because the liberals hold back the vote totals until they know how many votes they need to fake to win.

366 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:45pm

re: #363 Mentis Fugit

By the same token, as urban results come in and the pendulum swings from red to blue, freeps start howling about voter fraud, no?

Of course because voter fraud only happens in cities.//

367 calochortus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:21pm

re: #366 HappyWarrior

Well, only liberals engage in voter fraud so…
/

368 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:21pm

We all know how it goes, if Cucci wins by less than 1%, it’s a “mandate” and a referendum on the ACA and a stunning loss for Democrats. If McAuliffe wins by 5% or better, there’s no “mandate,” this doesn’t really count as a referendum, and Democrats totally cheated to win.

369 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:35pm

re: #365 calochortus

I’ve seen it seriously suggested that the urban areas report later than the rural counties because the liberals hold back the vote totals until they know how many votes they need to fake to win.

370 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:38pm

Gap narrowing.

371 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:39pm

re: #356 HappyWarrior

Stay on Target….

372 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:41pm

re: #346 dog philosopher

How to Stop Biting Your Nails

I used to have a horrible habit of sucking on the index finger of my left hand up through high school, what finally broke it was when I/my folks convinced me the most recent time I got sick was due to me doing it so I stopped doing it.

This is also why I am now super cautious about eating pizza that has not been either in a refrigerator or under a heat lamp for any major length of time.

373 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:34:35pm

re: #369 Vicious Babushka

Obama’s Chicago-vote-fraud machine reaches all the way to Virginia!!!

374 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:34:47pm

re: #369 Vicious Babushka

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I guess the CHicago machine isn’t working in New Jersey.

375 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:02pm

re: #361 HappyWarrior

Heh, I’m really interested in seeing how the delegate race turns out here. Costello-Daniel ran a great race. Very positive.

At least Miller here isn’t running unopposed.

376 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:19pm
377 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:28pm

re: #375 Varek Raith

At least Miller here isn’t running unopposed.

You’re down near Faquirer right?

378 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:04pm

re: #377 HappyWarrior

You’re down near Faquirer right?

Manassas.

379 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:13pm

re: #373 jaunte

Obama’s Chicago-vote-fraud machine reaches all the way to Virginia!!!

Well, why not? They’ve been working since before he was born to put him in the White House, after all.

380 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:27pm

re: #378 Varek Raith

Manassas.

Ah, isn’t that Bob Marshall’s senate area?

381 missliberties  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:52pm

re: #337 jamesfirecat

Thank You. I hate election nights when races *seem* this close. !!!! Arrggh. Just the tought of Cooch winning makes me ill.

Crazy how Christie cruised to a win. But remember he spent a cool mil, making sure that Cory Booker, won early so he wouldn’t be anywhere on the ticket with Christie!

Christie’s big secret is he is having fun. He loves politics. Not too many other pols seem to enjoy it like he does. Especially these days.

382 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:03pm

Ken Cuccinelli 525,181 48.7%
Terry McAuliffe 476,319 44.2%
Robert Sarvis 76,101 7.1%
53% reporting

383 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:04pm

re: #358 HappyWarrior

Which is hilarious given that America has been a predominately urban nation since 1900 I believe. When I hear people bitch about the cities and more liberal suburbs, I hear someone who can’t deal with the fact that America’s not the lily white Protestant country it once was.

There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.

I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.

384 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:17pm

McAuliffe’s gaining ground and Sarvis’ portion of the vote hasn’t shrunk below 5%. Yeah, if I were Cucci’s election team, I’d be seriously sweating right now.

385 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:30pm

Ken Cuccinelli 594,873 48.0%
Terry McAuliffe 556,575 44.9%
Robert Sarvis 86,985 7.0%
59% reporting

386 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:37pm
387 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:50pm

re: #381 missliberties

Thank You. I hate election nights when races *seem* this close. !!!! Arrggh. Just the tought of Cooch winning makes me ill.

Crazy how Christie cruised to a win. But remember he spent a cool mil, making sure that Cory Booker, won early so he wouldn’t be anywhere on the ticket with Christie!

Christie’s big secret is he is having fun. He loves politics. Not too many other pols seem to enjoy it like he does. Especially these days.

I think Christie only is smart enough not to be a so-con first. He’s as socially conservative as your average Republican- anti-choice, anti-marriage equality, etc but he doesn’t really run on that. I expect that this will be what sinks him when he runs for president. The so-cons will accuse him of not doing enough to limit choice and letting gay marriage go off without a fight. But I agree, he likes the hustle and bustle of politics.

388 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:39:04pm

re: #380 HappyWarrior

Ah, isn’t that Bob Marshall’s senate area?

His district is just north of us.
vpap.org

vpap.org

389 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:03pm

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

Bomp chicka bomp bomp

Sly and the Family Stone!

I wonder where Sly and Larry Graham got those beats and words.

390 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:27pm

Sarvis needs to go less than 5, probably 4 for Kenny to have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning.

391 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:32pm

Ken Cuccinelli 630,083 48.0%
Terry McAuliffe 590,668 45.0%
Robert Sarvis 92,729 7.1%
62% reporting

392 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:34pm

re: #383 GeneJockey

There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.

I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.

Yep. I think you’re right. What I’ve observed since I moved to the more exburbs is that people know each more out here than in the burbs. When we did my kid brother’s basketball drafted, he ended up knowing most of the kids we picked up. Meanwhile when I was growing up in Fairfax County, I was lucky if I knew a couple of people. I don’t have a problem with small town America but the difference is I realize that small-town values especially socially conservative small town values aren’t always right and furthermore that there’s no shame in living in an urban area.

393 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:42:20pm

re: #390 Varek Raith

Sarvis needs to go less than 5, probably 4 for Kenny to have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning.

Lol, I must remember not to use greater than or less than signs.
XD

394 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:43:55pm
395 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:01pm

Fairfax City, No votes counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.

396 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:11pm

re: #276 calochortus

Who said this wasn’t an educational website?

The Kama Lizardtra.

397 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:46pm

re: #394 jaunte

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Must have run out of plutonium.

/(geek moment)

398 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:45:27pm

re: #395 Varek Raith

Fairfax City, No voted counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.

Hahaha then it will be his and my alma mater that will due him in and IIRC his district when he was in the state senate was Fairfax as well.

399 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:45:54pm

re: #395 Varek Raith

Fairfax City, No voted counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.

What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?

400 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:46:50pm
401 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:04pm

re: #399 jamesfirecat

What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?

Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”

402 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:08pm

re: #397 Targetpractice

Must have run out of plutonium.

/(geek moment)

He’s got plenty of it, but he can’t get his solar powered car to reach 88 miles per hour…

403 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:10pm

re: #399 jamesfirecat

What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?

GMU. I know some people who I went to school with who worked their asses off on the McAuliffe campaign. Not sure if they still have the precinct on campus that we fought for though.

404 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:20pm

re: #401 Targetpractice

Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”

I don’t get it, unless they’re arguing that part of Virginia votes as liberally as Maryland does…

405 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:25pm

re: #400 jaunte

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Yay. Bye Reverend Jackson. Go compare Planned Parenthood to the KKK somewhere else you homophobic fuckwad. I really wanted the Dems to nominate the Indian-American dude but if we get Herring in at AG, Terry should he win will have two Virginia state senators who understand how our state works helping him.

406 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:38pm

re: #401 Targetpractice

Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”

And that’s spreading into Prince William and Loudoun counties.

407 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:49:36pm

Hey Charles, election results are getting pretty fluid. Maybe an Election Day Open Thread?

408 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:50:15pm

re: #406 Varek Raith

And that’s spreading into Prince William and Loudoun counties.

Yeah we may have a pick up in the state House of Delegates here. Some TP nut challenged and beat a long sitting Republican. A lady on the Berryville town council got the Dem nonination and has run a very savvy campaign. Should also mention that these counties have gone to Obama both times.

409 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:51:27pm

re: #400 jaunte

Heh.

410 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:51:57pm

re: #404 jamesfirecat

I don’t get it, unless they’re arguing that part of Virginia votes as liberally as Maryland does…

Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”

411 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:52:39pm
412 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:53:33pm

If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.

413 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:53:59pm
414 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:08pm

re: #410 Targetpractice

Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”

Damn it why does DC get all the blame we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?

415 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:13pm
416 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:17pm

re: #410 Targetpractice

Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”

So “as above, so below”?

417 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:03pm

re: #410 Targetpractice

Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”

They also have the wrong perception that NOVA residents are liberals. Now I am a liberal. I make no bones about that but our representation in Congress is moderate. Jim Moran and Gerry Connolly are both moderate Democrats. And even as recently as 2010, Gerry had to fight off a TP wacko to hold his seat. If the Republicans adapted more moderate positions, they could win here. I mean it needs to be said but Bill Clinton never won Fairfax County. Yeah demographics are different now than they were then and he would surely win now but the fact of the matter is NOVA voters aren’t the fiery leftists that the rural GOP convince themselves we are.

418 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:04pm

Norfolk, 18% reporting

419 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:42pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Damn it why does DC get all the credit we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?

Not enough crab cakes!

420 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:48pm

I’m calling it.

421 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:03pm

re: #412 Amory Blaine

If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.

That guy is being charged for those ‘medical services’. A collection agency is after him. I hope at least they checked for polyps while they were there.

422 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:13pm

BUTTHURT

423 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:31pm

Varek, TP. How’s AG looking? I actually like Herring the most of all the Dems that ran.

424 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:34pm

re: #414 jamesfirecat

Damn it why does DC get all the credit we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?

Because you all drive too slow.

425 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:01pm
426 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:04pm

re: #423 HappyWarrior

Varek, TP. How’s AG looking? I actually like Herring the most of all the Dems that ran.

I’m not so confident of a D win on that one, sadly.

427 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:29pm

re: #422 Vicious Babushka

BUTTHURT

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Yeah it’s fraud. Funny how that “fraud” didn’t help Barbara Buono in New Jersey, a state that actually has a history of fraud. Maybe you should find some proof of “fraud” Matt other than just crying that your loser who wants to criminalize giving head is going down fast.

428 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:36pm
429 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:50pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

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Couldn’t possibly be because we have a shit ton more people.
Nope!

430 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:53pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

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Yeah it can’t possibly be that they have more people. Fucktards.

431 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:36pm

Sarvis 6.9%
Spoiler is spoilin’!

432 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:37pm

Heh…

2. If Virginia Beach Glows Blue

The state’s largest city once was a reliable GOP stonghold. Jim Gilmore came out of Virgnia Beach with a 17,000-vote margin in 1997. The GOP margin was cut by half four years later and, in 2005, Democrat Tim Kaine carried Virginia Beach. The city returned to form four years ago to give hometown Republican Bob McDonnell a 27,000-vote margin.

Returns VPAP will Track: 8 precincts where Kaine did 52% or better in 2005 and McDonnell won by more than 60% four years later.

8:46 PM - 7 of 8 bellwether precincts from Va. Beach are in. (kaine won in ‘05; mcdonnell won in ‘09) McAuliffe carried 5 of 7.

433 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:46pm

re: #383 GeneJockey

There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.

I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.

I always thought that scene of the kids with the space shuttle/JFK poster was in Spain or Italy or somewhere Mediterranean.
Goes to show how perceptions differ.

434 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:05pm

Evening Lizards.

435 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:12pm

re: #421 wrenchwench

That guy is being charged for those ‘medical services’. A collection agency is after him. I hope at least they checked for polyps while they were there.

I’ll bet if he asked about the health of his colon the doctors would have told him they couldn’t advise him as their licenses would in jeopardy.

436 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:29pm

re: #422 Vicious Babushka

Hey, look what that neo-confederate racist asshole has to say!

437 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:40pm

re: #420 Varek Raith

I’m calling it.

IT!!!

438 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:02pm

re: #437 ObserverArt

IT!!!

I feel bold.

439 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:45pm

re: #436 teleskiguy

tombstones and vacant lots

He has his areas of expertise.

440 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:52pm

re: #412 Amory Blaine

If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.

in New Mexico…while blowing a stop sign at WalMart…

441 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:07pm

And sure enough, the calls of fraud.
Sorry wingnuts, cities take longer to count.

442 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:25pm
443 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:51pm

re: #442 teleskiguy

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Yep.

444 Belafon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:03pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Do Republican districts know the vote totals before the election?

445 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:04pm

re: #442 teleskiguy

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Na, Na, Na, Na Hey Hey!

446 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:19pm

re: #425 Vicious Babushka

Ah, beat me to it! The internet can be so fast sometimes.

447 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:31pm

re: #442 teleskiguy

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Think of this moment like the top of the roller coaster, that feeling as the momentum slowly falls away, but just before the plunge.

448 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:44pm

re: #445 HappyWarrior

Na, Na, Na, Na Hey Hey!

It’s 2012 all over again for the right.

449 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:19pm

Obensham up by 4. I think Herring can turn it. Obensham I think will be doomed by being tied to Cucci and Jackson and if he ever runs for state office again, he’ll try to distance himself from them even more.

450 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:34pm

re: #448 Varek Raith

It’s 2012 all over again for the right.

7pm “We got this in the bag!”

9pm “Okay, so it’s not as big a lead as it was, but we can still pull it off.”

11pm “HOW THE FUCK DID WE LOSE?!”

451 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:43pm

re: #441 Varek Raith

Places with lots of precincts and people take longer. When you’ve got counties/areas that have scant numbers of people, it’s quicker to tally results and verify them.

Urban areas take longer, and that doesn’t signify anything.

But that Cucci’s numbers are what they are without the urban areas reporting, and it’s not looking good for him at all.

And that’s a good thing.

452 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:48pm

Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II Rep. 813,397 47.2%
Terry McAuliffe Dem. 790,594 45.9
Robert Sarvis Lib. 118,459 6.9

453 teleskiguy  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:56pm

Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…

454 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:21pm

re: #453 teleskiguy

Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…

[Embedded content]

And the cannibalization begins.

455 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:22pm
456 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:40pm

re: #453 teleskiguy

Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…

[Embedded content]

Rofl.

457 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:51pm

Virginia GOP will throw libertarian under the bus. Rinse, recycle, repeat.

458 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:05pm
459 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:31pm

re: #454 Targetpractice

And the cannibalization begins.

Well, Kenny wasn’t conservative enough for them so they needed a third party candidate!
Morans.

460 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:52pm

re: #455 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Didn’t polls just close in NYC about 5 minutes ago?

461 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:12pm

re: #457 Amory Blaine

Virginia GOP will throw libertarian under the bus. Rinse, recycle, repeat.

The sweetness is that Ron and Ran were the conductors.

462 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:19pm

The VPAP site seems to be having problems. Hasn’t been an update in over 20 minutes.

463 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:20pm

Bolling could’ve won, but noooo~.
XD

464 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:27pm

re: #453 teleskiguy

Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…

[Embedded content]

He ran for state senate as a Republican here in the primary two years ago in a district held by the Democratic leader there. If he’s a plant. He’s a terrible one. Barber just can’t stand the fact that Virginia rejects Cucci and his agenda.

465 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:37pm
466 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:51pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

*based on exit polls

467 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:10pm

It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.

468 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:24pm

re: #463 Varek Raith

Bolling could’ve won, but noooo~.
XD

Bolling is going to do an “I told you so” in 2017 or 18 if he wants to run against Kaine.

469 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:08:33pm

re: #463 Varek Raith

Bolling could’ve won, but noooo~.
XD

Could have, and probably would have if they hadn’t changed how the party primary worked. Considering how badly Cucci got outspent, it’s no wonder that Bolling decided against a third party run.

470 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:08:50pm

re: #383 GeneJockey

There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.

I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.

Until the factory suddenly blows up and flattens the high school located right next to the factory. But that only happens in Texas.
////

471 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:10pm

It’s not enough to nominate nice, yet conservative candidates who could win.
No, they gotta nominate raging asshole conservatives who lose.

472 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:18pm

re: #464 HappyWarrior

He ran for state senate as a Republican here in the primary two years ago in a district held by the Democratic leader there. If he’s a plant. He’s a terrible one. Barber just can’t stand the fact that Virginia rejects Cucci and his agenda.

The margin isn’t high enough. The CW will be that 7% or whatever of voters thought Cucc wasn’t conservative enough.

473 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:33pm

Can you freeze candy corn?

474 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:15pm

re: #472 Amory Blaine

The margin isn’t high enough. The CW will be that 7% or whatever of voters thought Cucc wasn’t conservative enough.

Which is laughable considering that Sarvis is very pro gay marriage. Even brought up that his own marriage would have been illegal here.

475 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:26pm

Norfolk 36% reporting, Fairfax City 0%.

476 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:45pm

re: #467 Skip Intro

It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.

Don’t you mean that the kiss of death from Caribou Barbie has once agin worked its magic?

Or did you just forget your sarc tags?

477 Amory Blaine  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:02pm

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Candy corn seeds must freeze out in nature, so sure.

478 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:16pm

re: #475 Varek Raith

Norfolk 36% reporting, Fairfax City 0%.

I said it earlier but I love that Fairfax City and thus GMU coming in will be what makes Ken fall behind for good. GMU’s his alma mater.

479 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:25pm

re: #467 Skip Intro

It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.

Sometime they are going to figure out she is more a cast iron boat anchor than any bird.

480 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:12:34pm

re: #477 Amory Blaine

Candy corn seeds must freeze out in nature, so sure.

Gotta get this crap off my desk.

481 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:12:38pm

Seems odd.

482 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:08pm

Chuck Todd ignores that Deeds was unappealing to most of us here in NOVA.

483 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:17pm

My dad voted for Sarvis, Northam and Obenshain.
Weird, but it’s a start.

484 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:23pm

re: #481 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Seems odd.

Not this man!

485 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:31pm

re: #481 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Seems odd.

The others were busy.

486 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:33pm

Music break for the evening?

This is dedicated to Dragon Lady. The lyrics are exactly what things have been like, and how we apply a little attitude to cope.

Youtube Video

487 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:43pm

Calling Sarvis the “spoiler” is comical, as it seems they really believe that all those votes would have gone to Cucci otherwise. None to McAuliffe, none just staying home, all would have gone exclusively to Cucci.

488 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:46pm

re: #482 HappyWarrior

Chuck Todd ignores that Deeds was unappealing to most of us here in NOVA.

Chuck Todd is a moran.

489 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:15pm

re: #487 Targetpractice

Calling Sarvis the “spoiler” is comical, as it seems they really believe that all those votes would have gone to Cucci otherwise. None to McAuliffe, none just staying home, all would have gone exclusively to Cucci.

Shhh… Don’t spoil the fun.

490 jamesfirecat  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:46pm

re: #489 Varek Raith

Shhh… Don’t spoil the fun.

Spoiler no spoiling!

491 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:55pm

...

492 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:59pm

re: #473 Decatur Deb

Can you freeze candy corn?

Don’t see why not.

493 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:06pm

Todd has no understanding of Virginia politics.
This is my shocked face.

494 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:46pm

re: #488 Varek Raith

Chuck Todd is a moran.

Yeah, he’s right that McDonnell ran a good campaign but he totally ignores how bad a campaign Deeds did.

495 klys  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:58pm

Gouda, salami, grapes, crackers, a rum and coke…

…and a lecture on context free languages. Sigh. Save me, Lizards.

496 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:17:40pm

re: #481 jaunte

Seems odd.

Lots of white guys banking on sodomy laws being applied with the same diligence and even-handedness as drug laws.

497 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:06pm

And like that, Cucci and McAuliffe are within a percentage point of each other.

Mine is an evil laugh!

498 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:19pm
499 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:49pm

re: #496 The Ghost of a Flea

Lots of white guys banking on sodomy laws being applied with the same diligence and even-handedness as drug laws.

Lot of Norfolk sailors. Also against rum and the lash.

500 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:19:39pm

re: #499 Decatur Deb

Lot of Norfolk sailors. Also against rum and the lash.

Norfolk - 66% to Terry so far.

501 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:14pm

re: #500 Varek Raith

Norfolk - 66% to Terry so far.

I was misinformed.

502 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:41pm

re: #500 Varek Raith

Norfolk - 66% to Terry so far.

That’s even more than Fairfax County.

503 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:46pm

re: #501 Decatur Deb

I was misinformed.

We’re a confusing state.
;)

504 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:10pm

re: #502 HappyWarrior

That’s even more than Fairfax County.

Government Shutdown, I’d wager.

505 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:40pm

re: #504 Varek Raith

Government Shutdown, I’d wager.

Yeah that will do it.

506 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:44pm

re: #504 Varek Raith

Government Shutdown, I’d wager.

That’s another thing wingnuts fail to take in to account as to why Kenny is going to lose.

507 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:57pm

0.4

508 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:22:26pm

Cucci’s down to a half-percent lead (less than 9000 votes) with almost 80% reporting.

509 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:22:28pm

re: #506 Varek Raith

That’s another thing wingnuts fail to take in to account as to why Kenny is going to lose.

Well they’ll take that into account and then bitch about “government leeches.” Yeah how dare we make our livelihood serving our country.

510 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:00pm

Right up until McAuliffe takes it.

511 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:16pm

re: #508 AlexRogan

Cucci’s down to a half-percent lead (less than 9000 votes) with almost 80% reporting.

With the rest being in Terry’s favor.

512 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:28pm

So it looks like we’re going to have a Dem Gov, Dem LtGov, and a Repub AG. Should be rather…interesting.

513 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:29pm

re: #510 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Right up until McAuliffe takes it.

Hahaha. Do these guys not look at maps at all?

514 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:36pm

re: #510 jaunte

[Embedded content]

Right up until McAuliffe takes it.

Lolwhut.

515 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:31pm

re: #513 HappyWarrior

Hahaha. Do these guys not look at maps at all?

Only to claim that Democrat voting areas match up with gun violence statistics.
//

516 missliberties  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:32pm

re: #510 jaunte

The race being this close of a nail biter is a surprise to everyone. Why were the polls so wrong?

517 Gus  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:40pm

0.6

518 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:46pm

re: #221 thedopefishlives

Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.

The drinking episodes are funny too; I LOL’ed when Grant and Tory did their beer vs. liquor test and Grant spewed on-camera.

Kari’s reaction to the smell in the shop immediately afterwards was pure gold.

519 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:10pm

All of Ken’s problems were self inflicted.
Deal with it, wingnuts.

520 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:17pm

re: #516 missliberties

Takes longer to count the areas with more voters, and that’s where the D vote is.

521 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:30pm

Question. If a majority of states or even a set number of states legalize same sex marriage, does it ever tip to making that a national law just by there being a majority?

I know I may be thinking of the process to amend the Constitution…but was just wondering?

522 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:32pm

re: #512 Targetpractice

So it looks like we’re going to have a Dem Gov, Dem LtGov, and a Repub AG. Should be rather…interesting.

I still hold out hope that Herring can pull it out but I think Obensham will at least be socially moderate. I guarantee that he’s got his ambitions on higher office. But in a way, him winning shows how stupid the people who think there’s fraud are. I don’t trust Obensham at all. He reminds me of McDonnell. Acts like he’s more moderate than he really is.

523 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:43pm

0.03%

EDIT: That’s Cooch’s lead as of 6:25 PST

524 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:26:53pm

Hahaha Rand Paul got really pissy with the NYT. If it will make people leave me teh hell alone. You know what Truman said Rand? He said if you can’t stand the heat. Stay the hell out of the kitchen.

525 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:27:36pm

So when does Karl Rove march across the room and start throwing a shit fit?

526 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:27:44pm

Maddow just schooled Rand Paul.

527 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:14pm

Looking like Norfolk will be last to fully report.

528 Kragar  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:30pm
529 AlexRogan  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:39pm

re: #523 GeneJockey

0.03%

Virtual dead heat now, with Cucci down to a 400-vote lead.

530 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:46pm

re: #524 HappyWarrior

“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”

Chuckle.

washingtontimes.com

531 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:50pm

re: #527 Varek Raith

Looking like Norfolk will be last to fully report.

I like the idea of a military area doing the Republicans in here.

532 Targetpractice  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:53pm
2. If Loudoun County Turns Red

No candidate since Mark Warner in 2001 has won a statewide election without carrying Loudoun County, an ex-urb behemoth with 210,000 registered voters. Loudoun has full-on politics this year - all House seats are contested and most are targeted. Democrats have a local guy - Mark Herring — running on the statewide ticket. Loudoun is a real test of party ground game this year.

Returns VPAP will track: Seven precincts where McDonnell won 55% or better in 2009 and Obama won 52-55% in 2012. If these precincts go solidly red, Republicans might be able to breath easier.

9:20 P.M. — 6 OF 8 PRECINCTS TRACKED REPORTING. MCAULIFFE CARRIED ALL 6.

533 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:21pm

re: #530 Skip Intro

“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”

Chuckle.

washingtontimes.com

Haw-Haw!

534 Stanley Sea  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:30pm
535 GeneJockey  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:36pm

re: #530 Skip Intro

“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”

Chuckle.

washingtontimes.com

“Even the Conservative Washington Times…..”

536 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:53pm


Lol.

537 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:01pm

re: #534 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

OUTRAGE!

538 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:05pm

re: #532 Targetpractice

Wow if Terry won my precinct, Ken’s in deep trouble. We’re in western Loudoun here near the Clarke County border.

539 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:24pm

re: #536 jaunte

[Embedded content]


Lol.

They can keep telling themselves that.

540 Belafon  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:14pm

re: #521 ObserverArt

This would only apply in possibly influencing the Supreme Court. There is no “26 states recognize same sex marriage so it’s now legal everywhere.” And the way our current SCOTUS is, they would only use it if it allowed them to restrict rights.

541 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:26pm

re: #536 jaunte

[Embedded content]


Lol.

Yeah races should be totally limtied to two people. I love how Sarvis is being called a Dem plant. He ran for the Republican nomination two years ago to run against the then Democratic majority leader in the state senate but I guess facts are lost on the wingnut morons. I voted for Sarvis. You couldn’t pay me to vote Cucci.

542 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:36pm

He’s no chump, I tell you!

543 jaunte  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:32:32pm

That guy sure gets around.

544 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:32:58pm

Lol.
I’m amused by all the wingnut tears.
Your candidate sucked. Well…he wanted to make that illegal.
So…
Nevermind.

545 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:33:53pm

And it ain’t like Terry was a stellar candidate, hells no.
Lol.

546 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:13pm

re: #535 GeneJockey

“Even the Conservative Washington Times…..”

Frees up some of that time!

I posted in one of the earlier threads a bit of that fits here again.

But, if anyone hears him say anything about Obama lying and deceiving people about keeping their health plans…he should be and most likely will be slammed by the press and hopefully by the voters of Kentucky and everyone else. He just took away any moral high ground and put himself in a patch of quicksand or wet clay mud.

He is going to find out the last few weeks have not been good for him.

Good for us though.

547 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:22pm

re: #542 jaunte

how many times are we going to let #dems steal elections?

ahem when you find the least scintilla of actual evidence

548 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:22pm

I mean it’s not the fact that Cuccinelli is a fringe nutjob. Don’t most of these people claim they’re not Republicans but really “libertarians” anyhow. I won’t lie. I voted for Sarvis in part to shove that to them.That these so called libertarians are just Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit it.

549 BongCrodny  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:43pm

re: #530 Skip Intro

“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”

Chuckle.

washingtontimes.com

When you’ve lost the Moonies…

550 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:35:16pm

re: #521 ObserverArt

Question. If a majority of states or even a set number of states legalize same sex marriage, does it ever tip to making that a national law just by there being a majority?

I know I may be thinking of the process to amend the Constitution…but was just wondering?

Personally, I think if 26+ States recognize SSM as valid, the SCOTUS will have no choice but to make it a National law without ammeding the Constitution.

But that is just my opinion.

551 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:35:25pm

re: #545 Varek Raith

And it ain’t like Terry was a stellar candidate, hells no.
Lol.

Seriously they had the perfect opportunity to sweep all three parts of the ticekt again and they blew it the second they forced Bolling out for Cucci and the stupid nominating convention nominated Jackson. They have only themselves to blame.

552 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:36:09pm

re: #540 Belafon

This would only apply in possibly influencing the Supreme Court. There is no “26 states recognize same sex marriage so it’s now legal everywhere.” And the way our current SCOTUS is, they would only use it if it allowed them to restrict rights.

Thanks for that.

553 Skip Intro  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:36:20pm

And away we go!

554 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:36:42pm

re: #551 HappyWarrior

Seriously they had the perfect opportunity to sweep all three parts of the ticekt again and they blew it the second they forced Bolling out for Cucci and the stupid nominating convention nominated Jackson. They have only themselves to blame.

This shouldn’t have been even close.
Good one, GOP.

555 BongCrodny  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:39:28pm

re: #541 HappyWarrior

Yeah races should be totally limtied to two people. I love how Sarvis is being called a Dem plant. He ran for the Republican nomination two years ago to run against the then Democratic majority leader in the state senate but I guess facts are lost on the wingnut morons. I voted for Sarvis. You couldn’t pay me to vote Cucci.

It works the same on both sides.

Up here the Democrat, Mike Michaud, has a commanding lead over the unpopular incumbent governor, Paul LePage, in a two-man race,

However, Eliot Cutler is running again, and with him in the race, Michaud and LePage are running neck-and-neck.

Cutler’s not a libertarian, but it just further shows what can happen when a third party candidate has an impact on the election.

556 Bubblehead II  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:41:41pm

New thread. Moving upstairs.

557 BongCrodny  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:42:19pm

AP’s got 91% in, and McAuliffe is ahead by 5,000.

558 sagehen  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:42:40pm

re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth

Didn’t polls just close in NYC about 5 minutes ago?

The last polling, a few days ago, had DeBlasio ahead of Lhota 68-24. So even if every single undecided broke for Lhota, and 1/4 of DeBlasio’s support switched sides, he’d still win.

When the campaign called to ask me to volunteer for GOTV, they said “we’re hoping to get over 70%, we think that will provide a bigger mandate not just here but for liberal policies in other states as well, please can you come help?”

559 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:53:22pm

re: #454 Targetpractice

And the cannibalization begins.

GOP Will Eat Itself

560 HappyWarrior  Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:08:02pm

re: #555 BongCrodny

It works the same on both sides.

Up here the Democrat, Mike Michaud, has a commanding lead over the unpopular incumbent governor, Paul LePage, in a two-man race,

However, Eliot Cutler is running again, and with him in the race, Michaud and LePage are running neck-and-neck.

Cutler’s not a libertarian, but it just further shows what can happen when a third party candidate has an impact on the election.

Not denying he had an impact. Just saying that claiming that Sarvis is a Democratic plant is absurd.


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