1 dog philosopher  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:14:17pm

great concentration and emotional involvement

2 Lidane  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:27:19pm
3 jamesfirecat  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:32:06pm

re: #2 Lidane

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Don’t you mean shaken not… purred?

I’ll see myself out.

4 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:43:49pm

A few weeks back I asked about acoustic guitars for my son. I found one right before he went off to school a couple weeks ago. It’s a Maestro by Gibson. It was on clearance for 60 dollars. Came with a soft case, extra strings and picks and some instructional dvds. It seems to be a decent guitar, it stays in tune and sounds good. Not one to keep it simple, lol, the kid is learning Dream Theater songs on it.

I’m kinda glad I didn’t spend more at the time, last weekend the Honda (husband’s vehicle) died at almost 200K miles. So, a new(ish) vehicle was bought which means a second car payment (mine is almost paid off) for awhile. I had my eye on a Dean guitar but it was 400 dollars and I hesitated. Glad I did now.

And boy, do I miss the kid. The house is ungodly quiet, it kinda sucks.

5 bratwurst  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:52:06pm

Inspired by the conversation downstairs, I have paged the true story of “Kristallnacht” at Berlin’s New Synagogue in honor of the 75th anniversary.

6 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:56:34pm

re: #5 bratwurst

Inspired by the conversation downstairs, I have paged the true story of “Kristallnacht” at Berlin’s New Synagogue in honor of the 75th anniversary.

tweeted. Thanks for posting.

7 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 4:57:21pm

re: #4 A Mom Anon

$60 is a great deal for a Gibson acoustic, with case and extras. It’s rare to get a crummy Gibson - they’re usually decent quality instruments even at the cheap end of their catalog.

8 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:01:02pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

He was so happy, he didn’t want to take an electric to school, he was afraid he’d bug people with the noise. I was thrilled, I was going to wait til Christmas to give it to him but I just couldn’t. Yay!

9 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:05:04pm

I tried to read wonkette.com and got a malware warning. Has wonkette been compromised? I haz a sad.

10 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:08:00pm

re: #9 Vicious Babushka

I tried to read wonkette.com and got a malware warning. Has wonkette been compromised? I haz a sad.

Looks like one of their advertisers ran a shady ad and got flagged by Google’s system (or something like that). The site’s fine. I saw Rebecca tweet something earlier about working it out with Google.

11 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:09:21pm

re: #9 Vicious Babushka

I tried to read wonkette.com and got a malware warning. Has wonkette been compromised? I haz a sad.

Nothing when I tried—FF/Linux.

12 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:14:56pm
13 freetoken  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:16:43pm

re: #12 Stanley Sea

Death estimates will be difficult to pin down. However, the truth remains that Haiyan was an exceptional storm.

14 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:19:36pm

I work with a Filipino woman. Fortunately, her family does not live in one of the major disaster areas.

15 freetoken  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:20:40pm

From Master’s blog:

Typhoon Haiyan is headed across the South China Sea towards Vietnam as a much-weakened Category 3 storm with 115 mph winds after devastating the Philippines on Thursday and Friday as an extreme Category 5 storm with winds of 195 mph. With a preliminary death toll of 1,200, Haiyan already ranks as the 8th deadliest typhoon in Philippines history. Bloomberg Industries is estimating insured damages of $2 billion and total economic damages of $14 billion, making Haiyan the most expensive natural disaster in Philippines history. This is the third time in the past 12 months the Philippines have set a new record for their most expensive natural disaster in history. The record was initially set by Typhoon Bopha of December 2012, with $1.7 billion in damage; that record was beaten by the $2.2 billion in damage done by the August 2013 floods on Luzon caused by moisture associated with Typhoon Trami.

16 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:23:05pm

re: #15 freetoken

From Master’s blog:

Hard to believe people can look at something like that and still believe the planet’s climate isn’t changing at all.

17 freetoken  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:30:23pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

People believe what they want to.

For example, take Wired.

They run an editorial by Peter W. Huber, famed for his obfuscation of science related matters:

Our Backwards Government Can’t Keep Up With the Fast and Furious Germs of the Future


which is nothing but a glibertarian religious manifesto disguising itself as an editorial on the vaccine industry.

Here’s a comment I left shortly after Wired put up the editorial:

This piece by Peter W. Huber is just another in his very long career of misdirection in a field associated with science. His argument here is not so much an argument but a repetition of the mantra “free market”, and here it is devoid of the historical context in which medical research and pharmaceutical research has progressed this past century.

It ought to be clear that an assertion like “Viewed from the perspective of Washington’s paymasters, the three most insidious diseases in today’s America are diversity, freedom, and privacy…” is nothing but ideology restated over and over. There is no insight here into medical research.

Why is Wired so eager to publish articles from someone so well known for their history of misinformation?
sourcewatch.org

Oh… wait… you can’t find it on Wired’s page?

They (Wired, I assume, not Disqus) deleted it.

18 freetoken  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:35:42pm

Wired is afraid of someone who can actually look up information on the authors they publish.

That’s my take away.

19 A Mom Anon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:36:24pm

Alrighty then lizards, I’m going to go call the kid and go watch a movie. Nitey night.

20 Bubblehead II  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:37:33pm

re: #4 A Mom Anon

A few weeks back I asked about acoustic guitars for my son. I found one right before he went off to school a couple weeks ago. It’s a Maestro by Gibson. It was on clearance for 60 dollars. Came with a soft case, extra strings and picks and some instructional dvds. It seems to be a decent guitar, it stays in tune and sounds good. Not one to keep it simple, lol, the kid is learning Dream Theater songs on it.

I’m kinda glad I didn’t spend more at the time, last weekend the Honda (husband’s vehicle) died at almost 200K miles. So, a new(ish) vehicle was bought which means a second car payment (mine is almost paid off) for awhile. I had my eye on a Dean guitar but it was 400 dollars and I hesitated. Glad I did now.

And boy, do I miss the kid. The house is ungodly quiet, it kinda sucks.

You will get used to it. The Wife and I love being empty nesters. Almost like being newlyweds again, if you catch my drift.

21 Decatur Deb  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:43:40pm

re: #20 Bubblehead II

You will get used to it. The Wife and I love being empty nesters. Almost like being newlyweds again, if you catch my drift.

They come back. And they won’t be alone.

22 RealityBasedSteve  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:47:52pm

I swear that if you close your eyes and listen, you would think there were two people playing. You can’t look at his face, his expressions, and not know that he is just enjoying the living fukke out of his playing.

RBS
Who might play guitar better than Tommy Emmanuels’ cat, but wouldn’t want to bet the rent on it.

23 RealityBasedSteve  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:48:26pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

They come back. And they won’t be alone.

Wasn’t that the tag line from some horror movie. (If not, it should be)

RBS

24 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:49:15pm


I’m sure PressTV will have the skinny on this shortly. Also, thank you France.

25 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:49:33pm
26 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:50:03pm

re: #22 RealityBasedSteve

I swear that if you close your eyes and listen, you would think there were two people playing. You can’t look at his face, his expressions, and not know that he is just enjoying the living fukke out of his playing.

RBS
Who might play guitar better than Tommy Emmanuels’ cat, but wouldn’t want to bet the rent on it.

He really is one of the all-time acoustic guitar maestros. The fucker is ferocious.

27 Eclectic Cyborg  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:50:21pm

re: #25 Kragar

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What a damned joke.

28 Bubblehead II  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:53:57pm

re: #21 Decatur Deb

They come back. And they won’t be alone.

Yep, but there is no room for them to stay so they have to leave.

(The parents, not the kids)

In the mean time, we got to spoil the Grandkids rotten.

Grandparents. Your worst nightmare.

Youtube Video

29 Bubblehead II  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 5:57:10pm

re: #25 Kragar

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Texas Justice at its best.

*Puke*

30 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:00:38pm

Tonight is the first night anniversary of Kristallnacht.

So far I’ve seen #opBOYCOTTisrael trending and now #FreePalestine is trending.

31 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:03:11pm

re: #24 Gus

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I’m sure PressTV will have the skinny on this shortly. Also, thank you France.

Hmmm….

The group wanted to prevent Iran from advancing toward nuclear weapons capability over the next six months or so it would take to negotiate a final deal.

Iran still is willing to endure a lot of economic pain to continue what looks like a weapons program. I was hoping something still might come of this but it looks like the next scheduled talks are “low level”. A deal seems unlikely at this point.

32 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:03:26pm

re: #30 Gus

If you can get google translate to work (mine is off & on) follow these tweets

(H/T ww)

33 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:06:04pm

re: #32 Stanley Sea

If you can get google translate to work (mine is off & on) follow these tweets

[Embedded content]

(H/T ww)

I’m getting…

You can even find the hidden switch for patio lighting. Heimbach is doused with gasoline and must run through broken glass.

34 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:06:38pm

The playing is just gorgeous. I also can’t get over the sound that guitar is making. Just one of the warmest tones I’ve ever heard.

35 The War TARDIS  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:09:48pm

re: #31 Killgore Trout

I do want to make the point that it seems like the only acceptable solution to some people is no Nuclear Power at all in Iran.

This is very tiring, especially when I would consider Saudi having nukes a bigger threat. And there is talk of Saudi buying one from Pakistan.

I want a sensible solution to this. I’m tired of supporting a bunch of Gulf Monarchies and Netanyahu.

36 joe90  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:11:07pm

Māori 29 - 19 U.S.A , a cracker of a game and congratulations to the Eagles on their performance.

37 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:13:18pm

re: #7 Charles Johnson

$60 is a great deal for a Gibson acoustic, with case and extras. It’s rare to get a crummy Gibson - they’re usually decent quality instruments even at the cheap end of their catalog.

Guess how I can tell you haven’t bought a Gibson acoustic newer than the ones from the 1980s.

38 Charles Johnson  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:14:14pm

Tommy Emmanuel - The Bug

Youtube Video

39 Killgore Trout  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:14:44pm

re: #35 ProTARDISLiberal

I do want to make the point that it seems like the only acceptable solution to some people is no Nuclear Power at all in Iran.

This is very tiring, especially when I would consider Saudi having nukes a bigger threat. And there is talk of Saudi buying one from Pakistan.

I want a sensible solution to this. I’m tired of supporting a bunch of Gulf Monarchies and Netanyahu.

I suspect the Saudi move is because they predict it’s likely the Iranians will complete their bomb project in the near future. Without the prospect of an
an Iranian bomb the Suadis would be much less interested. If Saddam was still in power you can bet he’d be working overtime too.

40 kirkspencer  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:18:58pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

I suspect the Saudi move is because they predict it’s likely the Iranians will complete their bomb project in the near future. Without the prospect of an
an Iranian bomb the Suadis would be much less interested. If Saddam was still in power you can bet he’d be working overtime too.

Me, I think the big deal is that Saudi is the center of the Sunni Salafist powerbase while Iran is the center of the Shia, and both are the Big Dogs of the region.

(I find it sadly amusing that we still don’t make much of the fact that the bombers that attacked us on 9/11 were Salafists, and the plurality were Saudis.)

41 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:23:16pm
42 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:30:16pm
43 Archangelus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:31:57pm

re: #41 Stanley Sea

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WTF is WRONG with these people…

44 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:33:39pm

re: #43 Archangelus

WTF is WRONG with these people…

Dog, I don’t know. Lack of empathy and abundance of blind macho.

45 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:34:26pm

On a lighter note

46 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:36:03pm
47 Internet Tough Guy  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:44:14pm

re: #35 ProTARDISLiberal

This is very tiring, especially when I would consider Saudi having nukes a bigger threat. And there is talk of Saudi buying one from Pakistan.

The Israelis would go all out to destroy the House of Saud if that happened. Riyadh would be spoken of in the past tense.

Seriously, I’d think a Saudi bomb would magically appear inside Tel Aviv inside of a week of them getting one.

48 nutz4Tuna  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:44:26pm

Thanks for posting, Charles. My mind has been blown by Tommy since you posted his version of ‘Classical Gas’ a few weeks back. He has an Art Tatum-like command of his instrument…

49 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:44:58pm

Women having a meeting is so scary to Texan men, they need to round up a posse armed with automatic weapons.

50 Stanley Sea  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:46:05pm
51 Lidane  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:46:21pm

re: #43 Archangelus

WTF is WRONG with these people…

Small dicks. That’s why they have to overcompensate and wave around their big guns in public.

52 jaunte  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:47:12pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Some say it’s not really art unless your parents get mad.

53 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:47:57pm

re: #30 Gus

Tonight is the first night anniversary of Kristallnacht.

So far I’ve seen #opBOYCOTTisrael trending and now #FreePalestine is trending.

Well.

that sucks.

54 The War TARDIS  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:51:42pm

re: #47 Internet Tough Guy

I don’t trust Israel either however.

Netanyahu is PM, after all.

55 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:53:45pm

re: #53 Vicious Babushka

Well.

that sucks.

Yeah. The usual. It’s neither are trending now.

56 The War TARDIS  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:54:14pm

Youtube Video

And another Trailer.

We see Clara with 11, Elizabeth I with 10, and Rose with the Hurt Doctor.

Supposedly, another comes out soon. It will show footage of the Doctor and Clara hugging, him spinning her around.

57 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:54:25pm

LOOK at these eyes!

58 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:55:01pm

re: #54 ProTARDISLiberal

I don’t trust Israel either however.

Netanyahu is PM, after all.

אני לא בוטח בארצה”ב

סוף הכל אבאמה נשיא

Israeli: I don’t trust the U.S. either however.
Obama is President, after all.
//

59 freetoken  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:57:59pm

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

אני לא בוטח בארצה”ב

סוף הכל אבאמה נשיא

☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝☝
SEKRIT CODE TO IMPOSE SHARIA!!

60 The War TARDIS  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 6:59:05pm

re: #58 Vicious Babushka

Except that Netanyahu’s antics in the mid-90’s may have played a part in Rabin’s death.

And, yes, I admit that I still use Likud and Irgun interchangeably.

61 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:01:22pm

re: #60 ProTARDISLiberal

Except that Netanyahu’s antics in the mid-90’s may have played a part in Rabin’s death.

And, yes, I admit that I still use Likud and Irgun interchangeably.

You should stop doing that, it’s like people using Democrats!!!11!! and COMMUNISTS!!!!!! interchangeable.

62 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:01:51pm

re: #60 ProTARDISLiberal

Please go off another one of your creepy, creepy, creepy group blame rants, where you talk about nations like they’re people. Maybe stop short of advocating mass bombings of civilian population centers, though. That’s really a gem of an idea that you should save for special occasions.

63 Lidane  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:02:29pm
64 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:03:29pm

What, did the Exchange use Texas voter ID?

65 Skip Intro  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:05:23pm

re: #16 Eclectic Cyborg

Hard to believe people can look at something like that and still believe the planet’s climate isn’t changing at all.

Where I live we’ve had less than one inch of rain since last December (normal season is around 20 inches), but the place is still full of deniers.

66 Skip Intro  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:07:30pm

re: #64 Vicious Babushka

Funny, I don’t see that mentioned on the RW site Bryon links to.

Oh, there is is.

67 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:08:13pm
68 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:18:13pm

Add “drums” to my list of musical instruments there’s no point in trying to learn to play.

Youtube Video

69 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:26:02pm
70 Internet Tough Guy  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:30:51pm

re: #69 Kragar

Only racists call it “Black Lung Disease.”

71 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:32:56pm
72 jaunte  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:38:05pm

re: #69 Kragar

Suddenly, Fischer the environmentalist is concerned about bats.

Meanwhile, outside groups like the American Energy Alliance, the political arm of the energy industry-funded Institute for Energy Research, are launching campaigns in opposition to extending the PTC.*

The group sent out a Halloween-theme email to its supporters Thursday that calls the PTC the “undead zombie of government handouts.”
(*production tax credit, a key wind industry lifeline)
politico.com

73 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:38:23pm

re: #68 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Add “drums” to my list of musical instruments there’s no point in trying to learn to play.

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How about electric bass?
Youtube Video

74 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:41:32pm

re: #72 jaunte

Suddenly, Fischer the environmentalist is concerned about bats.

And it just so happens that good ole fashioned coal and gas is here to save the day!

75 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:43:07pm
76 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:44:54pm
77 Gus  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 7:50:36pm

FAIL!

Lawmakers to Aquino: Declare Philippines under state of calamity

This should have been done well before Yolanda made land fall. Did they even bother evacuating shoreline and low lying areas? Probably not.

78 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 8:12:23pm

re: #45 Stanley Sea

On a lighter note

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This explains why he has such a good personality. He has to tell jokes to get chicks.

79 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 8:18:25pm

re: #78 moderatelyradicalliberal

This explains why he has such a good personality. He has had to tell jokes to get chicks.

80 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 8:34:05pm

I peeked at Twitter just a few minutes ago and caught the latest Prudence nonsense. Can someone sane confirm or deny whether thousands of people have lost health insurance because of the ACA?

My relative is still going on about how “Obamacare” is the end of the free world and he’ll never vote Democrat ever again, even if Hillary runs for prexy.

Sigh.

81 sagehen  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 8:43:33pm

re: #60 ProTARDISLiberal

Except that Netanyahu’s antics in the mid-90’s may have played a part in Rabin’s death.

And, yes, I admit that I still use Likud and Irgun interchangeably.

Menachim Begin was Irgun. He deserved the Peace Prize he shared with Sadat.

82 sagehen  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 8:53:29pm

re: #80 wheat-dogghazi

I peeked at Twitter just a few minutes ago and caught the latest Prudence nonsense. Can someone sane confirm or deny whether thousands of people have lost health insurance because of the ACA?

My relative is still going on about how “Obamacare” is the end of the free world and he’ll never vote Democrat ever again, even if Hillary runs for prexy.

Sigh.

Plans that aren’t ACA-compliant were grandfathered in; if you had the plan continuously since before the law was passed, the gov’t won’t require they be cancelled.

However, since those plans can’t sign up new people, and they can’t throw you off if you get expensively sick, the insurance companies are deciding OF THEIR OWN VOLITION, for FREE-MARKET ECONOMIC REASONS, to cancel many such plans. People who get cancellation notices, the letters also say (*all of them*), “here is another plan we offer that we’d be happy to roll you into at $X/mo, effective the date the old plan closes”. The letters don’t mention that people could also, if they’re aware of it, go to the exchange and see if there’s another plan they might like better, or at a better price, or if they qualify for subsidies.

83 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:02:17pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Great picture. There’s a good message there.

84 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:02:27pm

Trying to decide whether I should stick with my Space Wolves for Monday’s game or swap over to my Salamanders.

85 wheat-dogghazi  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:08:59pm

re: #82 sagehen

Plans that aren’t ACA-compliant were grandfathered in; if you had the plan continuously since before the law was passed, the gov’t won’t require they be cancelled.

However, since those plans can’t sign up new people, and they can’t throw you off if you get expensively sick, the insurance companies are deciding OF THEIR OWN VOLITION, for FREE-MARKET ECONOMIC REASONS, to cancel many such plans. People who get cancellation notices, the letters also say (*all of them*), “here is another plan we offer that we’d be happy to roll you into at $X/mo, effective the date the old plan closes”. The letters don’t mention that people could also, if they’re aware of it, go to the exchange and see if there’s another plan they might like better, or at a better price, or if they qualify for subsidies.

So, it’s the usual wingnut half-truth, scary Obama-boogeyman, bullshit.

86 sattv4u2  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:10:53pm

re: #84 Kragar

Trying to decide whether I should stick with my Space Wolves for Monday’s game or swap over to my Salamanders.

Yeah. Big decision for me too come Monday

Whether to hit the driver off the 1st tee or play it safe and use the 3 iron!!

87 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:39:20pm

re: #84 Kragar

Trying to decide whether I should stick with my Space Wolves for Monday’s game or swap over to my Salamanders.

Salamanders. Their flamers are always intimidating.

Image: 61_Psycho_CFMMatCar_Salamander2.jpg

88 Kragar  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:39:51pm

re: #86 sattv4u2

Yeah. Big decision for me too come Monday

Whether to hit the driver off the 1st tee or play it safe and use the 3 iron!!

I’d debate whether to bring the cart to a full stop.

89 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:41:32pm

It’s great that we have a music thread, since I got to see John Williams conduct the Chicago Symphony Orchestra tonight. Truly splendid stuff, I enjoyed it greatly.

90 teleskiguy  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 9:45:08pm

re: #26 Charles Johnson

He really is one of the all-time acoustic guitar maestros. The fucker is ferocious.

You ain’t kiddin’.

Youtube Video

91 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 10:07:31pm

Chanel #7.

92 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 10:12:08pm

Like Homer’s make-up gun.

93 Political Atheist  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 10:36:44pm

Just before I go to bed, I’ll leave you with this. If you know me you know I love my fire photography. Well look what happens when the fire looks back. The shot is unaltered other than crop and contrast etc.. CR2 file available for any skeptics.

Image: TheFirelookedBack.jpg

94 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 11:08:48pm

GOP cancels plans on abortion bills after outrage from Democrats

Madison — A day after a Democrat pledged “all-out hell” on the Senate floor over abortion, Republicans backed off their plans and put off votes on two bills until next year, if then.

Republicans had said they were planning to take up two abortion measures Tuesday, their final day of floor votes in 2013. But on Friday, they issued a tentative schedule that did not include those bills, and a top aide to Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald (R-Juneau) said they would not be taken up this year.

“We wanted to end the November session with a ‘light’ calendar and focus on the economic development and jobs bills that we’ve included for Tuesday,” Fitzgerald’s chief of staff, Dan Romportl, said in an email.

Romportl did not say whether the abortion bills would be taken up in the spring, noting only that they “will remain available for scheduling.”

95 Amory Blaine  Sat, Nov 9, 2013 11:18:24pm

Some clarity from Walker’s opponent.

Burke underlines commitment to restoring collective bargaining

Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke said during a campaign visit to Sheboygan County that she “absolutely” would work with state legislators to restore collective bargaining powers to public employees, the Sheboygan Press reported.

Burke has avoided stating specific positions on a number of issues. But she has criticized Act 10, the law pushed by Gov. Scott Walker that stripped away most collective bargaining rights for most state and local government employees.

“I think it’s one of the reasons why our economy hasn’t rebounded,” she said, according to the newspaper.

96 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:17:00am

You know, I have to stop opening some emails. How cool is this? I want.

and you?

97 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:18:21am

re: #93 Political Atheist

Just before I go to bed, I’ll leave you with this. If you know me you know I love my fire photography. Well look what happens when the fire looks back. The shot is unaltered other than crop and contrast etc.. CR2 file available for any skeptics.

Image: TheFirelookedBack.jpg

very kewl!

98 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:20:28am

re: #82 sagehen

Plans that aren’t ACA-compliant were grandfathered in; if you had the plan continuously since before the law was passed, the gov’t won’t require they be cancelled.

However, since those plans can’t sign up new people, and they can’t throw you off if you get expensively sick, the insurance companies are deciding OF THEIR OWN VOLITION, for FREE-MARKET ECONOMIC REASONS, to cancel many such plans. People who get cancellation notices, the letters also say (*all of them*), “here is another plan we offer that we’d be happy to roll you into at $X/mo, effective the date the old plan closes”. The letters don’t mention that people could also, if they’re aware of it, go to the exchange and see if there’s another plan they might like better, or at a better price, or if they qualify for subsidies.

I keep wondering how much better this whole thing would be if Republicans had cooperated. They could own part of something that is good for the country.

Instead, they are going to fuck-it-up as much as possible the repackage it as theirs and take all the credit.

Little Boys …

99 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:33:26am

I haven’t posted in a couple days. Am behind on things …

100 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:35:04am

re: #88 Kragar

I’d debate whether to bring the cart to a full stop.

Depending on how I’m playing, I do that every time I drive towards the water hazard

101 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:35:16am

ROTFLAMO

Remember : Cold season is starting and cows seek heat on car hoods. do not forget to tap on the hood to give the cow enough time to get off before you drive away!

102 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:37:41am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

ROTFLAMO

and I thought I had a cool hood ornament!!

Image: jaguarshot.jpg
/

103 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 3:49:19am

re: #102 sattv4u2

and I thought >I had a cool hood ornament!!

Image: jaguarshot.jpg
/

There IS NOTHING kewler than your hood ornament!

104 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:12:04am

re: #103 FemNaziBitch

There IS NOTHING kewler than your hood ornament!

Some are more useful than ornamental:

Image: 1973LandRover_700.jpg

105 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:15:03am

re: #104 Decatur Deb

Some are more useful than ornamental:

Image: 1973LandRover_700.jpg

And some are downright necessary

Image: 106871.jpg

106 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:19:27am

re: #105 sattv4u2

And some are downright necessary

Image: 106871.jpg

That one might be seeking warmth on a cold night, too.

107 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:21:29am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi

That one might be seeking warmth on a cold night, too.

Got my motor warmed up nicely!

108 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:22:00am

re: #106 wheat-dogghazi

re: #107 sattv4u2

Got my motor warmed up nicely!

although,, at my age,,, it would exhaust me!!

109 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:24:55am

re: #105 sattv4u2

And some are downright necessary

Image: 106871.jpg

Aerodynamic cross section is large. Possible parasitic drag would offset any gains.

110 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:25:17am

Smells like a locker room in here.

111 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:27:23am

re: #110 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Smells like a locker room in here.

In an assisted-living facility.

112 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:27:49am

re: #111 Decatur Deb

In an assisted-living facility.

I love the smell of Ben Gay in the morning!

113 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:28:00am

Seems appropriate:

Youtube Video

114 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:28:30am

re: #112 sattv4u2

I love the smell of Ben Gay in the morning!

It’s the smell of Tai-Chi.

115 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:29:31am

re: #114 Decatur Deb

it’s the smell of Tai-Chi.

Nahh,,, that stuff makes me burp

Can’t we have regular Americanized Chinese food instead!?!?
/

116 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:31:28am

re: #115 sattv4u2

NJDH blew through the other night. Sounds like he’s getting re-settled.

117 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:35:27am

Doonesbury looks around—

doonesbury.slate.com

via Slate

118 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:36:03am

re: #116 Decatur Deb

NJDH blew through the other night. Sounds like he’s getting re-settled.

Yeah. I heard he was “here”. I was starting to get worried about him! Hope all is going well

119 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:37:35am

re: #118 sattv4u2

Yeah. I heard he was “here”. I was staring to get worried about him! Hope all is going well

Sounds like it was just the chaos of moving. Now we need CCA back from mess sergeant school or wherever.

120 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:38:36am

re: #119 Decatur Deb

Sopunds like it was just the chaos of moving. Now we need CCA back from mess sergeant school or wherever.

LOL. I miss his ‘weird” early morning news stories. I still hear from here every now and then via e-mail

121 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:39:36am

re: #120 sattv4u2

LOL. I miss his ‘weird” early morning news stories. I still hear from here every now and then via e-mail

Yeah if he moved from FL to Delaware or someplace, the news would be boring.

122 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:40:19am

re: #121 Decatur Deb

Yeah if he moved from FL to Delaware or someplace, the news would be boring.

Maryland ,,,,,,, he may be on the move again soon,, North Carolina

123 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:41:03am

re: #122 sattv4u2

Maryland ,,,,,,, he may be on the move again soon,, North Carolina

NC would be crazy enough, SC even more so.

124 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:43:48am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

NC would be crazy enough, SC even more so.

Could be worse
he COULD come to the Atlanta area and I would be forced too (shudder) meet him!!

//

125 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:50:10am

re: #123 Decatur Deb

Speaking of weird stories ,,,

atlanta.cbslocal.com

An Alabama man was charged with illegally keeping seven deer as pets, including a buck that mauled and partially blinded him, wildlife officials said Friday.

126 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:53:30am

re: #125 sattv4u2

Speaking of weird stories ,,,

atlanta.cbslocal.com

An Alabama man was charged with illegally keeping seven deer as pets, including a buck that mauled and partially blinded him, wildlife officials said Friday.

Someone neglected to inform the deer.

127 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:56:23am

re: #126 Decatur Deb

Someone neglected to inform the deer.

Well,,, it IS rutting season,, so maybe Julius looked fetching that day !!!

128 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:58:22am

So, the house is quiet and I decide to watch the first part of this FRONTLINE series (God In America). It’s really good, until it stops buffering at about 3/4 of the way thru.

I HATE when that happens.

129 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:59:35am

re: #128 FemNaziBitch

So, the house is quiet and I decide to watch the first part of this FRONTLINE series (God In America). It’s really good, until it stops buffering at about 3/4 of the way thru.

I HATE when that happens.

I can tell you how it ends

God moves!!!!

//

130 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 4:59:51am

re: #128 FemNaziBitch

re: #129 sattv4u2

I can tell you how it ends

God moves!!!!

//

with no forwarding address!!

131 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:09:13am

re: #129 sattv4u2

I can tell you how it ends

God moves!!!!

//

… in mysterious ways.

132 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:15:47am

re: #131 wheat-dogghazi

… in mysterious ways.

Or on up
To the East Side
To a DEEElux apartment
in the Skyyyyy!!!!


stlyrics.com

133 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:21:24am

A baptist in pre-revolutionary America was arrested in Virginia was arrested for preaching without a license!

HA!

134 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:23:50am

While working on a sewing project last week, I listened to the final two in the Wool Trilogy by Hugh Howey.

It is a very thought provoking series. Highly recommended.

135 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:25:58am

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

While working on a sewing project last week, I listened to the final two in the Wool Trilogy by Hugh Howey.

It is a very thought provoking series. Highly recommended.

Is it harder to sew wool than cotton!?!?
/

136 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:28:06am

re: #135 sattv4u2

Is it harder to sew wool than cotton!?!?
/

I’m allergic to wool, so I’ve never tried. I might have something to do with the weave. Felted anything would be easier to sew than a loose weave.

137 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:37:15am

re: #136 FemNaziBitch

I’m allergic to wool, so I’ve never tried. I might have something to do with the weave. Felted anything would be easier to sew than a loose weave.

So you COULD have a pet deer, but not a pet sheep!!

(see what I did there!!!))

138 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:44:54am

Peace talks are not going to be a piece of cake.

Israeli right-winger Lieberman to return as foreign minister

trust.org

JERUSALEM, Nov 10 (Reuters) - The Israeli cabinet approved on Sunday the return of far-right leader Avigdor Lieberman as foreign minister after his acquittal on corruption charges, in a move that could further complicate peace talks with the Palestinians.

“Lieberman stepped down last year when he was indicted. His reinstatement to the role, which Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu had held open for him, is likely to harden the tone of Israeli diplomacy.

“As head of the far-right Yisrael Beitenu party, which is allied with Netanyahu’s Likud, Lieberman has been outspoken in his scepticism about the U.S.-sponsored negotiations that resumed in July after a three-year impasse, saying that reaching a permanent peace deal was impossible.”

139 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:54:44am

Evangelicals have been wreaking havoc since the beginning of America.

In 1830 they were concerned with prison conditions, women’s rights and slavery.

HA!

140 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:55:25am

re: #137 sattv4u2

So you COULD have a pet deer, but not a pet sheep!!

(see what I did there!!!))

depends on how each is woven.

141 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:15:07am

ugh,,,,,,
apnews.myway.com

As many as 10,000 people are believed dead in one Philippine city alone

hoping the USA (and others) has ships/ supplies on the way

142 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:15:50am

re: #141 sattv4u2

ugh,,,,,,
apnews.myway.com

As many as 10,000 people are believed dead in one Philippine city alone

hoping the USA (and others) has ships/ supplies on the way

USS Mercy is probably staffing-up

143 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:16:27am

re: #141 sattv4u2

ugh,,,,,,
apnews.myway.com

As many as 10,000 people are believed dead in one Philippine city alone

hoping the USA (and others) has ships/ supplies on the way

And make them dependent on government handouts? Bootstraps, man, bootstraps.

144 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:18:06am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

And make them dependent on government handouts? Bootstraps, man, bootstraps.

NEVER in cases like that.

145 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:18:24am

re: #142 FemNaziBitch

USS Mercy is probably staffing-up

They’re going to need a lot more than one hospital vessel

146 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:19:23am

re: #145 sattv4u2

They’re going to need a lot more than one hospital vessel

OK, USNS Comfort as well and lots of money and Salvation Army Volunteers. US Aid and other NGO’s.

147 Stoatly  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:27:28am

re: #101 FemNaziBitch

ROTFLAMO
Remember : Cold season is starting and cows seek heat on car hoods. do not forget to tap on the hood to give the cow enough time to get off before you drive away!

When I was learning to drive (so many years ago!) it was standard operating procedure to blow the horn before starting the engine - the family cat had moved from sitting on the front wheel to actually getting into the engine compartment of the parked car!
That cat worked its way through every one of its nine lives with gusto

148 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:28:29am

re: #147 Stoatly

When I was learning to drive (so many years ago!) it was standard operating procedure to blow the horn before starting the engine - the family cat had moved from sitting on the front wheel to actually getting into the engine compartment of the parked car!
That cat worked its way through every one of its nine lives with gusto

My neighbors cat does the same to my car

149 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:30:18am

re: #147 Stoatly

When I was learning to drive (so many years ago!) it was standard operating procedure to blow the horn before starting the engine - the family cat had moved from sitting on the front wheel to actually getting into the engine compartment of the parked car!
That cat worked its way through every one of its nine lives with gusto

THat is what I found so funny about the photo, because usually the warnings are about cats.

150 Mattand  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:30:25am

re: #144 sattv4u2

NEVER in cases like that.

Heh, I remember how a good chunk of Republicans last year basically told us in NJ to fuck off when we needed help with Sandy.

There’s more people in this country than I care to admit that would have no problem looking at the Philippines right now and go “Eh, not my problem.”

151 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:33:18am

re: #150 Mattand

Heh, I remember how a good chunk of Republicans last year basically told us in NJ to fuck off when we needed help with Sandy.

There’s more people in this country than I care to admit that would have no problem looking at the Philippines right now and go “Eh, not my problem.”

And again, NEVER in cases like that.

(imho)

152 Mattand  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:36:38am

re: #151 sattv4u2

And again, NEVER in cases like that.

(imho)

I agree. I’m just sometime a little too aware of how borderline sociopathic some groups of people are.

153 FemNaziBitch  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:38:37am

re: #152 Mattand

I agree. I’m just sometime a little too aware of how borderline sociopathic some groups of people are.

borderline?

154 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:42:10am

Someone help me find my old hockey helmet please

A defunct satellite from the European Space Agency the size of a Chevy Suburban is set to plunge to Earth somewhere between Sunday night and Monday afternoon — and experts say there’s no way to precisely determine where it will crash

Read more: myfoxny.com
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155 Flounder  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:42:30am

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

156 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:43:18am

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

I’ll hold your beer!

157 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:46:02am

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

Can I have your watch? (Leave it outside the house, in the mailbox maybe.)

158 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:49:00am

re: #157 Decatur Deb

Can I have your watch? (Leave it outside the house, in the mailbox maybe.)

Ya don’t mind if his wrist is still kinda attached to it, do ya!?!?

159 Flounder  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:54:52am

re: #154 sattv4u2

Image: incoming_.jpg

160 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:57:07am

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

So, you want to shoot clear coat while the fan pulls wood smoke OUT of the stove? i sense a disturbance in the Force.

161 Flounder  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:59:44am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi

I do have a nice smokey oaky aroma right now.

162 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:59:45am

re: #160 wheat-dogghazi

So, you want to shoot clear coat while the fan pulls wood smoke OUT of the stove? i sense a disturbance in the Force.

I sense a call to 911!

163 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:00:04am

re: #94 Amory Blaine

GOP cancels plans on abortion bills after outrage from Democrats

The GOP has gone far enough with this to hopefully satisfy the nutbar part of their base. They can go home and plead that the Democrats just barely stopped them from implementing valuable social legislation.

I guess the question is which is worse; rabid reps *wanting* to implement this because they believe in it, or hypocritical ones who know that it’s wrong but play the game in order to garner votes, donations, and remain in power?

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:00:45am

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

Has the wife taken out an increased insurance policy on you recently?

165 sattv4u2  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:01:14am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home (with quick stop at the driving range) beckons

166 Flounder  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:02:19am

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

I have one, it won’t make her rich, but her boyfriend will be able to buy a nice truck.
/

167 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:04:02am

Mornin’ everyone.

168 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:08:08am

re: #161 Flounder

I do have a nice smokey oaky aroma right now.

Isn’t that one of those Axe scents? Oak smoke with a hint of petroleum distillates.

169 Flounder  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:13:41am

Wife and daughter are demanding donuts, a man’s work is never done!
BRB
or will I…

170 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:15:13am

re: #167 darthstar

Mornin’ everyone.

[Embedded content]

Great video. Jimmy Page was getting into it as well. :)

Saw Heart as part of a Cheap Trick/Heart/Journey triple bill a few years back and they did a few Zeppelin covers as part of their set. No back-up chorus, but they seem to be well suited as a band to cover those tunes.

171 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:23:40am

Uh oh. Now he’s done it!

172 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:24:22am

A new American Masters (PBS) focusing on Jimi Hendricks is really good if anyone runs across it.

173 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:27:45am

Jesus Christ Huufpo has had the same picture of a poor dead guy on it’s front page since last night.

174 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:29:26am

re: #171 Gus

Uh oh. Now he’s done it!

Sunday morning cavalcade of cover songs!

175 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:33:45am

White guy wins after leading voters to believe he’s black

Dave Wilson chuckles as he talks about his unorthodox political campaign.
“I’d always said it was a long shot,” Wilson says. “No, I didn’t expect to win.”
Still, he figured he’d have fun running, because he was fed up with what he called “all the shenanigans” at the Houston Community College System. As a conservative white Republican running in a district whose voters are overwhelmingly black Democrats, the odds seemed overwhelmingly against him.
Then he came up with an idea, an advertising strategy that his opponent found “disgusting.” If a white guy didn’t have a chance in a mostly African-American district, Wilson would lead voters to think he’s black.

176 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:34:49am

re: #174 darthstar

Sunday morning cavalcade of cover songs!

Not that but thanks for the response.

177 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:35:02am

Share shelf - Hopefully, this takes hold.
shareshelfsf.tumblr.com

178 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:37:00am

re: #143 Decatur Deb

And make them dependent on government handouts? Bootstraps, man, bootstraps.

Well when all the bootstraps have washed away…

179 Amory Blaine  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:37:39am

re: #177 darthstar

How about a newspaper box shaped refrigerator?

180 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:38:12am

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

…drive?

181 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:38:16am

In any event.

182 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:38:22am
183 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:38:53am

re: #177 darthstar

Share shelf - Hopefully, this takes hold.
shareshelfsf.tumblr.com

Interesting concept, but I already see potential pitfalls.

184 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:40:02am

re: #176 Gus

Not that but thanks for the response.

Okay…the Scott Walker thing then? You need to use your words.

185 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:42:42am

re: #183 Eclectic Cyborg

Interesting concept, but I already see potential pitfalls.

Yeah, me too, but sometimes you have to take those risks - small as they may be.

186 William of Orange  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:42:44am

Here’s some amazing footage. Drumming along with the Foo Fighter’s “Everlong”. Easy.


But it becomes amazing when you’ve got no hands!!!

Youtube Video

that’s dedication people!

187 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:43:07am

re: #184 darthstar

Okay…the Scott Walker thing then? You need to use your words.

Gus may be clowning around, DS. He isn’t always coherent when he does that, but he’s generally funny.

188 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:43:30am

Venezuelan military seizes major retail chain
One person described the move as “government-sanctioned looting.”

CARACAS — Thousands of Venezuelans lined up outside the country’s equivalent of Best Buy, a chain of electronics stores known as Daka, hoping for a bargain after the socialist government forced the company to charge customers “fair” prices.

President Nicolás Maduro ordered a military “occupation” of the company’s five stores as he continues the government’s crackdown on an “economic war” it says is being waged against the country, with the help of Washington.

Members of Venezuela’s National Guard, some of whom carried assault rifles, kept order at the stores as bargain hunters rushed to get inside.

“I want a Sony plasma television for the house,” said Amanda Lisboa, 34, a business administrator, who had waited seven hours already outside one Caracas store. “It’s going to be so cheap!”

Continues.

Pathetic.

189 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:45:13am

re: #185 darthstar

Yeah, me too, but sometimes you have to take those risks - small as they may be.

Well, one of the pitfalls is someone might try to poison food left out in such a way. Think of a person with sociopathic tendencies who is a fan of Rush Limbaugh…

190 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:46:57am

re: #188 Gus

Venezuelan military seizes major retail chain
One person described the move as “government-sanctioned looting.”

Pathetic.

This, folks, is what confiscatory socialism looks like. We don’t want it here, but Barack Obama isn’t gonna bring it here either!

191 Gus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:47:05am

re: #187 Dark_Falcon

Gus may be clowning around, DS. He isn’t always coherent when he does that, but he’s generally funny.

No. I’m not clowning around actually. I’ve been here for over 5 years. Whatever. BBL

192 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:56:38am

re: #191 Gus

No. I’m not clowning around actually. I’ve been here for over 5 years. Whatever. BBL

Sorry, didn’t mean to offend.

193 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:58:42am

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Well, one of the pitfalls is someone might try to poison food left out in such a way. Think of a person with sociopathic tendencies who is a fan of Rush Limbaugh…

But you’re in Chicago.
//

Seriously, sociopathic behavior is the exception, not the norm. That shouldn’t be the first or even a primary concern. I give leftover food to homeless people on a regular basis. And I see others do the same - saw a twenty-something woman just a week or two ago stop on their way to work and walk back thirty feet to a guy rummaging in a garbage can to hand him her packed lunch.

194 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:59:31am

re: #188 Gus

This is what the RWNJs are accusing Obama of practically doing here.

195 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:00:10am

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

Well, one of the pitfalls is someone might try to poison food left out in such a way. Think of a person with sociopathic tendencies who is a fan of Rush Limbaugh…

I was thinking more non-needy people who would hoard the food for themselves.

196 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:00:24am

re: #188 Gus

Venezuelan military seizes major retail chain
One person described the move as “government-sanctioned looting.”

Pathetic.

Olive-Drab Friday.

197 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:03:12am

Hypocrisy, thy name is…this person:

“I have no love for this government,” said Gabriela Campo, 33, a businesswoman, hoping to take home a cut-price television and fridge. “They’re doing this for nothing but political reasons, in time for December’s elections.”

198 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:09:47am

re: #195 Eclectic Cyborg

I was thinking more non-needy people who would hoard the food for themselves.

Maybe. But you have to be somewhat needy to take leftovers from a stranger.

199 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:10:56am
200 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:11:22am

re: #198 darthstar

Maybe. But you have to be somewhat needy to take leftovers from a stranger.

Not necessarily. Some people will mercilessly abuse access to free stuff.

201 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:12:37am

re: #193 darthstar

But you’re in Chicago.
//

Seriously, sociopathic behavior is the exception, not the norm. That shouldn’t be the first or even a primary concern. I give leftover food to homeless people on a regular basis. And I see others do the same - saw a twenty-something woman just a week or two ago stop on their way to work and walk back thirty feet to a guy rummaging in a garbage can to hand him her packed lunch.

It only took one sociopath to make an entire nation afraid of OTC drugs, back in the Tylenol scare.

Beyond that, though, I see problems with the ‘share shelf’ idea, like how long food sits out before it’s eaten. Giving a homeless person your leftovers directly is one thing. Leaving it out for them to take at some point in the future is another.

My late brother-in-law used to work with Food Not Bombs (till he jokingly referred to it as ‘Food For Bums’ and got chucked out). They’d do dumpster dives at markets, bakeries, etc and get food that was being tossed but was otherwise edible. They’d also make big post of soup and such and hand out bowls to homeless folks. But they were working out of cars and vans, because the cops would break it up when they found them.

That sounds like the cops were being heartless, but consider - the Food Not Bombs folks were not professionally trained. Did any of them have any training in food safety? Did they have the equipment to keep the food hot enough to prevent bacterial growth? Or was the food sitting at room temp for hours before being distributed? A couple dozen homeless folks getting food poisoning from well-meaning DFH’s is no joke.

So I end up ambivalent about ad hoc methods for feeding hungry homeless people, and not solely because of the possibility of intentional mischief.

202 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:16:38am

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

Not necessarily. Some people will mercilessly abuse access to free stuff.

I put them with the sociopaths - in the exception column. Giving is good. What people do with what you give is beyond your control.

203 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:17:22am

re: #200 Eclectic Cyborg

Not necessarily. Some people will mercilessly abuse access to free stuff.

Yes, we call them Welfare Queens!

204 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:21:40am

re: #193 darthstar

But you’re in Chicago.
//

And we have a right-wing talk station here, too. Even in bright blue counties, El Rushbo’s dittoheads can be found.

205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:21:54am

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

Yes, we call them Welfare Queens!

That’s what Reagan said, yes. He really was a wingnut, when you break it down.

206 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:22:00am

re: #201 GeneJockey

It won’t sit on the shelf any longer than it would in a dumpster, where it’s in with other crap that isn’t very sanitary.

Figure there would be two to three times a day when the shelves would get used in a downtown environment, lunch and dinner more than breakfast, though I could see someone dropping an extra bagel on the shelf on their way to the office.

The homeless people I see every day are there in the morning and through midday - high foot traffic time. Any food left out during that period would be picked up within a few minutes, and an hour at most. Even leftover chicken won’t turn to salmonilla in an hour.

207 Eclectic Cyborg  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:22:14am

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

Yes, we call them Welfare Queens!

Joking aside, ask anyone who has ever worked at a hotel with a free continental breakfast. They’ll have stories, I guarantee it.

208 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:25:32am

re: #205 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

That’s what Reagan said, yes. He really was a wingnut, when you break it down.

i honestly thought it was lame that Reagan did that considering most of the people on Welfare are unwed mothers and children but Ronnie had to throw a bunch of poor people under the bus. And don’t get me started on his outright racial pandering by opening his presidential campaign where three civil rights were kidnapped and later murdered talking about states rights.

209 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:26:29am

re: #188 Gus

Venezuelan military seizes major retail chain
One person described the move as “government-sanctioned looting.”

Pathetic.

It’s not as bad as that article makes it appear; the high prices are caused by inflation and a screwed-up exchange rate. Here’s another one.

usatoday.com

Look at what a 46” TV costs at Daka. Would you pay it? Could you pay it? And that’s still hundreds higher than a 46” in the US even at $1K.

“Jose Solano, shopper number 223, sides with Maduro and blames an “economic war” waged by enemies of the socialist revolution started by the late Hugo Chavez for pushing up prices beyond reach. With his son, he plans to spend the night sleeping in line so they can purchase a 46-inch, Sony plasma TV at a quarter of the 54,000 bolivar listed price still visible through the glass store front. The TV costs $8,571 at the official exchange rate and about $1,000 at the black market rate.”

210 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:27:51am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

He really normalized anti-science attitudes as being completely acceptable in the GOP, too. Before then, the GOP pretty much acknowledged that science was the backbone of the American economy and military power. Reagan kind of led the anti-intellectualism charge, or at least was strapped to the front of the anti-intellectualism movement like a hood ornament.

211 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:31:00am

re: #210 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He really normalized anti-science attitudes as being completely acceptable in the GOP, too. Before then, the GOP pretty much acknowledged that science was the backbone of the American economy and military power. Reagan kind of led the anti-intellectualism charge, or at least was strapped to the front of the anti-intellectualism movement like a hood ornament.

I am not as familiar about that with him but this is another strike against him as far as I’m concerned. For me, Reagan’s biggest sin was making the RR as a huge part of national politics. But that goes with the anti-science and anti-intellectualism you’re talking of.

212 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:31:55am

re: #210 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He really normalized anti-science attitudes as being completely acceptable in the GOP, too. Before then, the GOP pretty much acknowledged that science was the backbone of the American economy and military power. Reagan kind of led the anti-intellectualism charge, or at least was strapped to the front of the anti-intellectualism movement like a hood ornament.

So much of modern conservatism has consisted of simply unleashing the resentment, anger, ignorance and prejudice of people who were already resentful, angry, ignorant and prejudiced.

213 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:32:11am

re: #207 Eclectic Cyborg

Joking aside, ask anyone who has ever worked at a hotel with a free continental breakfast. They’ll have stories, I guarantee it.

People eat. Some people eat a lot.

We have catered lunches on Thursdays at my office, catered breakfast Mondays and Fridays. But we also do appetizers and wine and beer when we have VIPs in the office. Last week, after the first half hour, and the snacks were made available to the whole office, the engineers descended on the buffet en masse. I was talking to a Sheriff Investigator from Indiana who looked at one of our guys loading a plate with meat, cheese, crackers, etc. and said to me, “Your people aren’t shy about the food, are they?” I said, “Nope, they’re like locusts when it comes to food.” Actually, I was a little embarrassed by the guy he was talking about because he’s the guy who leads different team meetings and has near zero social skills.

214 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:33:28am

re: #211 HappyWarrior

He advocated creationism in schools, denied the reality of AIDS, and claimed trees caused 90% of the pollution. To be fair to him, I don’t think he understood a damn thing about science— however, I think he knew that he didn’t understand, so I have no idea why he thought he was a fit person to serve as president. That is the absolutely weirdest thing about Reagan. He doesn’t seem like he was a malicious person.

215 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:34:09am

re: #213 darthstar

People eat. Some people eat a lot.

We have catered lunches on Thursdays at my office, catered breakfast Mondays and Fridays. But we also do appetizers and wine and beer when we have VIPs in the office. Last week, after the first half hour, and the snacks were made available to the whole office, the engineers descended on the buffet en masse. I was talking to a Sheriff Investigator from Indiana who looked at one of our guys loading a plate with meat, cheese, crackers, etc. and said to me, “Your people aren’t shy about the food, are they?” I said, “Nope, they’re like locusts when it comes to food.” Actually, I was a little embarrassed by the guy he was talking about because he’s the guy who leads different team meetings and has near zero social skills.

I used to be that guy. Well, LIKE that guy.

216 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:34:19am

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217 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:34:52am

re: #212 GeneJockey

So much of modern conservatism has consisted of simply unleashing the resentment, anger, ignorance and prejudice of people who were already resentful, angry, ignorant and prejudiced.

Yep and it goes back to IMO when Nixon ran with the Southern Strategy. The minute the GOP welcomed Strom Thurmond with welcome arms to their tent, I think that’s the moment where they started becoming what we see today. IWhat we see today with the GOP is a more modern version of the Southern Strategy that I’d call the “White Strategy” where they appeal to the resentments and fears of white middle class voters.

218 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:35:49am

re: #214 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He advocated creationism in schools, denied the reality of AIDS, and claimed trees caused 90% of the pollution. To be fair to him, I don’t think he understood a damn thing about science— however, I think he knew that he didn’t understand, so I have no idea why he thought he was a fit person to serve as president. That is the absolutely weirdest thing about Reagan. He doesn’t seem like he was a malicious person.

I think Reagan was an opportunist IMO. But thanks for reminding me about his anti-science language.

219 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:38:20am

re: #215 GeneJockey

I used to be that guy. Well, LIKE that guy.

I still have my moments. My problem is I’m a grazer. I’ll grab a nibble here and there over an hour or two and end up eating more than if I’d just grabbed a plate and stayed away from the kitchen after I finished eating.

220 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:38:56am

re: #214 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He advocated creationism in schools, denied the reality of AIDS, and claimed trees caused 90% of the pollution. To be fair to him, I don’t think he understood a damn thing about science— however, I think he knew that he didn’t understand, so I have no idea why he thought he was a fit person to serve as president. That is the absolutely weirdest thing about Reagan. He doesn’t seem like he was a malicious person.

Well, if he’d looked like Mr. Burns, he wouldn’t have been elected. His ‘sunny personality’ overcame nervousness about the crazy horseshit he was selling. The irony is that although he was instrumental in unleashing the ignorant, uncompromising horde, in practice he compromised all the time. One writer pointed out that he had been a Union President, and knew that in a negotiation you start out demanding the impossible, then allow yourself to be talked down to what you really want.

The problem is, the current Right remembers the impossible demand, not the inevitable negotiation and compromise, hence ‘Zombie Reagan’.

221 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:39:27am

re: #208 HappyWarrior

i honestly thought it was lame that Reagan did that considering most of the people on Welfare are unwed mothers and children but Ronnie had to throw a bunch of poor people under the bus. And don’t get me started on his outright racial pandering by opening his presidential campaign where three civil rights were kidnapped and later murdered talking about states rights.

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

Moreover, Mississippi was not seen as a lock by the Republicans in 1980. Though people on LGF often speak of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’, its worth remembering that most Southern states had voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. As the Westerner facing a Southerner, Reagan and his team believed they had a tough row to hoe in the Magnolia State, hence a trip to a county fair right after being nominated was seen as a good idea. It also fit Reagan well, since he was much better in such situations than the socially awkward Nixon.

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222 b_sharp  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:41:28am

re: #212 GeneJockey

So much of modern conservatism has consisted of simply unleashing the resentment, anger, ignorance and prejudice of people who were already resentful, angry, ignorant and prejudiced.

There have been a few studies lately that show personally felt uncertainty encourages people to adopt more conservative stances. Circle the wagons so to speak. Increasing stress levels on a country wide level would increase votes for the right.

223 GeneJockey  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:41:42am

re: #219 darthstar

I still have my moments. My problem is I’m a grazer. I’ll grab a nibble here and there over an hour or two and end up eating more than if I’d just grabbed a plate and stayed away from the kitchen after I finished eating.

I’ve discovered I have will power, but it’s like an on/of switch, not a rheostat. If I am not rigid about it, I’ll break down completely. I can’t take just one snickers bar from the bowl, I take 4. I can’t take two slices of pizza and a salad, I’ll go back for 3 more slices. I have to carry my lunch because if I go out, I’ll get 700 - 1500 calories.

BUT, knowing that, I now know how not to make a pig of myself!

224 b_sharp  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:42:47am

re: #215 GeneJockey

I used to be that guy. Well, LIKE that guy.

Same here.

225 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:44:35am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because the Republican Nation Convention was nearby that year, and Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

Moreover, Mississippi was not seen as a lock by the Republicans in 1980. Though people on LGF often speak of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’, its worth remembering that most Southern states had voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. As the Westerner facing a Southerner, Reagan and his team believed they had a tough row to hoe in the Magnolia State, hence a trip to a county fair right after being nominated was seen as a good idea. It also fit Reagan well, since he was much better in such situations than the socially awkward Nixon.

The 1980 RNC was in Detroit, that year so that doesn’t make sense to me. You’re right that the deep South going into the race was no guarantee for Reagan since Carter had done quite well there in ‘76. However, I do think Reagan and Reagan’s team showed insensitivity on the issue. I don’t believe Reagan was a bigot on a personal level but I think he was either very naive about it or he had no problem exploiting the bigotry of the day for votes. It’s why I don’t think he deserves all the admiration he gets. Hindsight bias, sure absolutely but then again I look at what others of that time did.

226 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:45:41am

For my money, even more than Ike and this coming from a Truman admirer, I think Tom Dewey was one of the best guys the Republicans ran for President since WWII.

227 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:46:08am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

Thanks for the info, post edited.

228 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:47:21am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

What’s your proof for this assertion, especially given that the substance of the speech he gave was for ‘states rights’, and a rejection of and attack on the work of those Civil Rights leaders?

229 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:47:33am

re: #223 GeneJockey

I’ve discovered I have will power, but it’s like an on/of switch, not a rheostat. If I am not rigid about it, I’ll break down completely. I can’t take just one snickers bar from the bowl, I take 4. I can’t take two slices of pizza and a salad, I’ll go back for 3 more slices. I have to carry my lunch because if I go out, I’ll get 700 - 1500 calories.

BUT, knowing that, I now know how not to make a pig of myself!

Yep. I’m kind of like that myself. 1500 calorie lunches are easy. The best way I found to avoid it is I try to go to the gym every day at lunch (especially catered lunch days). Two of the last three weeks were really busy, and I managed one workout per week the first two (that added up to a few extra pounds on the scale). This week I was more disciplined. Made it four days in a row plus a good swim yesterday. Fortunately, I’ve been doing it regularly enough now that my bosses and employees all expect me to leave at lunch.

Tomorrow we have a welcome lunch for a new product owner, so I need to work out early. My plan is to go in early and hit the gym for breakfast.

230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:47:58am

re: #225 HappyWarrior

He was a bigot in the way many people are bigots: He didn’t spend any time or effort thinking about how much harder life was for non-whites, and didn’t give a shit about helping them.

231 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:49:11am

Heh…

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232 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:49:58am

re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He was a bigot in the way many people are bigots: He didn’t spend any time or effort thinking about how much harder life was for non-whites, and didn’t give a shit about helping them.

That’s true, Obdi. I guess I meant bigot in a way where I don’t think he felt AAs were inferior to him but I do think, yes he was terrible about empathizing about those who weren’t white and he didn’t seem to care about helping them.

233 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:53:10am

re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He was a bigot in the way many people are bigots: He didn’t spend any time or effort thinking about how much harder life was for non-whites, and didn’t give a shit about helping them.

Reagan is like L Ron Hubbard - he’s done more (through the fiction of what he was) since he died than he ever did when he was alive.

234 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:54:32am

re: #232 HappyWarrior

Yeah, like I said, not malicious. But the ‘welfare queen’ speech, hiring Lee Atwater and letting him run the Southern Strategy, there’s a lot of muck there.

235 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:55:18am

Also, I’m mean because I can’t stop chuckling at this poor dude. I hope he went on to do very well in the ball-foot game.

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236 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:56:37am

re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He was a bigot in the way many people are bigots: He didn’t spend any time or effort thinking about how much harder life was for non-whites, and didn’t give a shit about helping them.

That’s a very substantial broadening of the term. Might have swept up an awful lot of people that the term insensitive would be more accurate.

237 allegro  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:56:47am

re: #234 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, like I said, not malicious. But the ‘welfare queen’ speech, hiring Lee Atwater and letting him run the Southern Strategy, there’s a lot of muck there.

Perhaps it’s just me but I find that pretty damn malicious.

238 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:57:12am

re: #234 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, like I said, not malicious. But the ‘welfare queen’ speech, hiring Lee Atwater and letting him run the Southern Strategy, there’s a lot of muck there.

Well it’s like that old quote of the aforementioned Atwater- “You started out saying n-word, n-word. And then that doesn’t work, you start talking about busing. And finally you come to taxes and spending.” Paraphrase I know but man that docu on Atwater was alarming.

239 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:00:10am

re: #237 allegro

Perhaps it’s just me but I find that pretty damn malicious.

No, it’s not you. I’m in the boat that Reagan’s approach to race was more like a George C. Wallace where he played to people’s prejudices of the day than say John Rankin who actually believed in the prejudices he had that got him elected. Both are awful. Honestly, even though it doesn’t mean officially much, I thought because of that, it was a load of world class bs that Reagan beat Lincoln and MLK for a greatest American contest that Discovery did about a decade ago. Same show for the record had Clinton and Bush in the top 10 so I think we saw a lot of guilty by recent memory bias but the nation’s greatest civil rights leader and a consensus greatest president being less than Reagan? The hell but that shows you IMO the problem with online voting.

240 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:00:12am

re: #236 Political Atheist

That’s a very substantial broadening of the term. Might have swept up an awful lot of people that the term insensitive would be more accurate.

Huh? I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean. An awful lot of people didn’t run for office while using a racist strategy, no.

241 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:00:16am

re: #234 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, like I said, not malicious. But the ‘welfare queen’ speech, hiring Lee Atwater and letting him run the Southern Strategy, there’s a lot of muck there.

Lee Atwater was too good not to hire, and Reagan had to win Southern states in order to be elected. It’s true the political map was more fluid back then, but Reagan needed the South to offset expected Democratic strength in New England. Reagan ended winning most Southern states in 1980. The exception was Georgia, Jimmy Carter’s home state. Unlike Mitt Romney, Carter was actually popular in the state he’d grown up in.

242 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:03:03am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

I’m sorry, I don’t think that Reagan was under any real obligation to use a racist campaign strategy. That campaign, and other campaigns using Atwater’s divisive tactics, have prolonged a lot of the racial division and the harm that comes with that in our country.

243 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:03:20am

re: #230 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

He was a bigot in the way many people are bigots: He didn’t spend any time or effort thinking about how much harder life was for non-whites, and didn’t give a shit about helping them.

Huh? I’m sorry, I don’t know what you mean. An awful lot of people didn’t run for office while using a racist strategy, no.

I’m saying an awful lot of people would be included in your description as above. When you said “many people” I took that as meaning well beyond candidates that use a particularly odious strategy.

244 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:04:50am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Lee Atwater was too good not to hire, and Reagan >had to win Southern states in order to be elected. It’s true the political map was more fluid back then, but Reagan needed the South to offset expected Democratic strength in New England. Reagan ended winning most Southern states in 1980. The exception was Georgia, Jimmy Carter’s home state. Unlike Mitt Romney, Carter was actually popular in the state he’d grown up in.

You know, you’re basically coneding that the only way Reagan could win the south was by playing to people’s prejudices here. Honestly, I think even if he hadn’t played the Southern strategy, he would have won the South in ‘80. Ford despite having a style that didn’t play well in the South at all still nearly beat Carter in some states. Mississippi for example was tight.

245 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:05:14am

re: #243 Political Atheist

I’m saying an awful lot of people would be included in your description as above. When you said “many people” I took that as meaning well beyond candidates that use a particularly odious strategy.

Well, yeah. I do think it’s bigoted to not care about people other than those in your own ‘group’, to not think about them, and not do anything to help them. Why is that an overly broad meaning to you? What would you call someone who doesn’t care about the conditions that people of another race have to endure?

246 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:07:22am

re: #242 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I’m sorry, I don’t think that Reagan was under any real obligation to use a racist campaign strategy. That campaign, and other campaigns using Atwater’s divisive tactics, have prolonged a lot of the racial division and the harm that comes with that in our country.

Hell Reagan if he was the leader, his champions say he was, he would have tried to transcend the racial divides that still existed in the South. Point out that he governed a very diverse state or that he worked with African Americans in his acting days. Hell the place where he accepted his nomination was named after Joe Louis. Reagan didn’t have to hire Atwater to win and I think Reagan’s party and our country would have been bettter off racially if he had not.

247 Mattand  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:07:32am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Lee Atwater was too good not to hire, and Reagan >had to win Southern states in order to be elected. It’s true the political map was more fluid back then, but Reagan needed the South to offset expected Democratic strength in New England. Reagan ended winning most Southern states in 1980. The exception was Georgia, Jimmy Carter’s home state. Unlike Mitt Romney, Carter was actually popular in the state he’d grown up in.

A guy who openly and almost gleefully stokes racial animosity to help win an election is a bigoted piece of shit, as is the person who hires him for that task.

248 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:08:14am

re: #245 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Yeah, that’s a lot more broad than the dictionary goes. But I probably used your standard rather than the academic standard when I called out the author of a rather bigoted piece about the CMA’s that got Paged.

249 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:08:48am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Lee Atwater was too good not to hire, and Reagan >had to win Southern states in order to be elected. It’s true the political map was more fluid back then, but Reagan needed the South to offset expected Democratic strength in New England. Reagan ended winning most Southern states in 1980. The exception was Georgia, Jimmy Carter’s home state. Unlike Mitt Romney, Carter was actually popular in the state he’d grown up in.

The thing here is hate the game or hate the player? 1980 was not the culture of today.

250 allegro  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:09:48am

re: #247 Mattand

A guy who openly and almost gleefully stokes racial animosity to help win an election is a bigoted piece of shit, as is the person who hires him for that task.

This. Forever this.

251 BeenHereAwhile  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:10:13am

re: #220 GeneJockey

Well, if he’d looked like Mr. Burns, he wouldn’t have been elected. His ‘sunny personality’ overcame nervousness about the crazy horseshit he was selling. The irony is that although he was instrumental in unleashing the ignorant, uncompromising horde, in practice he compromised all the time. One writer pointed out that he had been a Union President, and knew that in a negotiation you start out demanding the impossible, then allow yourself to be talked down to what you really want.

The problem is, the current Right remembers the impossible demand, not the inevitable negotiation and compromise, hence ‘Zombie Reagan’.

The Republican Religious Right also forgets that Reagan didn’t go to church.

252 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:11:26am

re: #248 Political Atheist

Yeah, that’s a lot more broad than the dictionary goes. But I probably used your standard rather than the academic standard when I called out the author of a rather bigoted piece about the CMA’s that got Paged.

There’s obviously a different between a bigot who goes out of their way to harm black people and a bigot who simply closes their minds to the idea that America, after hundreds of years of fucking over black people, still has a lot to do in helping them and all the other groups America has fucked over. But they both cause harm, and I can’t really think of another word to describe that. I mean, when the person is just ignorant, that’s one thing, but there’s an active closing off of minds that’s really reprehensible.

253 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:13:31am

I have fulfilled my daughter-ly obligation and attended church with the family. And sang with the choir, because you can never actually escape that, apparently.

But hey, I think I wrote out another context free grammar for the homework during the sermon.

254 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:15:19am

re: #188 Gus

Venezuelan military seizes major retail chain
One person described the move as “government-sanctioned looting.”

Pathetic.

I’ve been thinking about this. I would think modern computer technology would improve the ability to manage these Marxist controlled economies. Even a modestly sized economy is unmanageable today. The Soviets in the pre-1980’s didn’t stand a chance.

255 gwangung  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:24:40am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

That’s idiotic, even for you.

A competent politician has researchers on staff. They do research.

Those civil rights workers were most certainly on his mind.

256 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:26:33am

re: #175 Amory Blaine

White guy wins after leading voters to believe he’s black

It’s times like this I despair of my species.

257 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:29:08am

What greed and gossip can do. This guy was tortured and mutilated.

Four charged with severing penis of California marijuana dispensary owner

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Four people have been charged with abducting the California owner of a medical marijuana dispensary, torturing him and cutting off his penis in an attempt to force him to divulge the location of cash they mistakenly believed he had hidden in the desert.

“Two of the suspects, Ryan Anthony Kevorkian, 34, and Naomi Josette Kevorkian, 33, were arrested in the central California town Fresno, on Friday, a day after a third defendant, Hossein Nayeri, 34, was taken into custody in the Czech Republic.

(snip)

“Kyle Shirakawa Handley, 34, the accused mastermind of the kidnapping scheme, has been in custody since he was arrested last October, not long after the crime occurred, police and prosecutors said in a joint statement.”

258 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:30:29am

re: #257 Justanotherhuman

What greed and gossip can do. This guy was tortured and mutilated.

Four charged with severing penis of California marijuana dispensary owner

reuters.com

(Reuters) - Four people have been charged with abducting the California owner of a medical marijuana dispensary, torturing him and cutting off his penis in an attempt to force him to divulge the location of cash they mistakenly believed he had hidden in the desert.

“Two of the suspects, Ryan Anthony Kevorkian, 34, and Naomi Josette Kevorkian, 33, were arrested in the central California town Fresno, on Friday, a day after a third defendant, Hossein Nayeri, 34, was taken into custody in the Czech Republic.

(snip)

“Kyle Shirakawa Handley, 34, the accused mastermind of the kidnapping scheme, has been in custody since he was arrested last October, not long after the crime occurred, police and prosecutors said in a joint statement.”

Heh a joint statement. Okay, smart ass mode off, that’s really fucked up. People do a lot of fucked up shit for greed.

259 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:32:34am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

I’m sorry, DF, but he and his people knew exactly what they were doing. And I disagree with Obi on him too - he may have been good at pretending but there was deep and dark malice in his heart and it showed all over the place. His Central & South American policy was murderously evil and his denial of AIDS was calculated to not offend his supporters in right wing evangelical circles. If it caused a bunch of queers to die, so what? He only gave a fuck when one of his friends died.

Only his ignorance and the fact that Gorbachev was smart enough to use religion (pretending to be a good secret orthodox christian. Yeah, right.) as the way to lead him by the nose prevented him from causing the WWIII I expected him to start.

260 Romantic Heretic  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:34:23am

re: #220 GeneJockey

Well, if he’d looked like Mr. Burns, he wouldn’t have been elected. His ‘sunny personality’ overcame nervousness about the crazy horseshit he was selling. The irony is that although he was instrumental in unleashing the ignorant, uncompromising horde, in practice he compromised all the time. One writer pointed out that he had been a Union President, and knew that in a negotiation you start out demanding the impossible, then allow yourself to be talked down to what you really want.

The problem is, the current Right remembers the impossible demand, not the inevitable negotiation and compromise, hence ‘Zombie Reagan’.

There were some people that Reagan couldn’t fool.

Strange, isn’t it? That damaged perceptions can make you immune to propaganda?

261 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:36:46am

re: #260 Romantic Heretic

There were some people that Reagan couldn’t fool.

Strange, isn’t it? That damaged perceptions can make you immune to propaganda?

Very interesting.

262 piratedan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:41:58am

re: #259 William Barnett-Lewis

I’m sorry, DF, but he and his people knew exactly what they were doing. And I disagree with Obi on him too - he may have been good at pretending but there was deep and dark malice in his heart and it showed all over the place. His Central & South American policy was murderously evil and his denial of AIDS was calculated to not offend his supporters in right wing evangelical circles. If it caused a bunch of queers to die, so what? He only gave a fuck when one of his friends died.

Only his ignorance and the fact that Gorbachev was smart enough to use religion (pretending to be a good secret orthodox christian. Yeah, right.) as the way to lead him by the nose prevented him from causing the WWIII I expected him to start.

lest us forget that he’s the guy that started the financial reform rollbacks, busting of the unions and his essential cowardice in the middle east foreign policy. You can trace back to his administration when the 1% started getting rich at the expense of the middle class and the poor. I thought he was a very capable actor and knew how to use the media and his persona very effectively.

263 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:43:12am

I’m a little shocked at how hard the Philippines got hit. The fatality count is going to be terribly high. CNN Photos

264 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:44:33am

re: #263 Political Atheist

I’m a little shocked at how hard the Philippines got hit. The fatality count is going to be terribly high. CNN Photos

And the post-disaster fatalities, too, because so much infrastructure has been demolished.

265 piratedan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:45:24am

re: #263 Political Atheist

supposedly these guys are good to go and ready to help:

shelterboxusa.org

Thought they did great work in Haiti, but I will freely admit that there are some charities out there that do less with more.

also,too… these guys have a good rep afaik

opusa.org

266 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:45:52am

re: #259 William Barnett-Lewis

I don’t agree with THAT at all. Gorbachev didn’t “lead Reagan around by the nose”, the IRBM Treaty was the ‘zero option’ treaty Reagan wanted all along. Intermediate range nukes in Europe really were too dangerous to like, but as long as the Soviet SS-20s were deployed Reagan (and Thatcher) had no choice but to deploy US systems as a counter.

What Mikhail Gorbachev was was a Soviet boss with enough power within his own system to force a change in direction and a man smart enough to see that the SS-20s were a hindrance, not a help.

Thus was a major arms control treaty reached, by leaders both smart enough and internally credible enough to reach an agreement and then make sure their side stuck to it.

267 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:47:57am

And America will be there to help in the Philippines. Because humans help other humans.

usatoday.com

268 Political Atheist  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:49:32am

re: #264 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

And the post-disaster fatalities, too, because so much infrastructure has been demolished.

Yeah, they will have to get a lot of help from other nations. The media has only been to a few places, the storm was bigger than the whole country. No nation has infrastructure for storm surge of tens of feet and near 200 mph sustained winds. IIRC that’s tornado territory. A tornado like event many miles across.

Not sure if they confirmed or not but the phrase “biggest ever recorded” was thrown out there.

269 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:51:15am

re: #265 piratedan

supposedly these guys are good to go and ready to help:

shelterboxusa.org

Thought they did great work in Haiti, but I will freely admit that there are some charities out there that do less with more.

The thing is that Shelterbox has a system that can be rapidly deployed. It true some other firms can get more supplies into a place, but Shelterbox is able move its boxes in by helo and even by pallet air-drop in some cases.

In a disaster situation speed is life and overcoming logistical hurdles is crucial to achieving that speed.

270 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:54:51am

re: #261 HappyWarrior

Very interesting.

Actors are trained to fool you into thinking they’re someone else. We often confuse actors we like with the roles they play, and are shocked when they do something we see as “not being themselves” when, in fact, they are being themselves. Actors, skilled ones, can play a complicated character very well, although there aren’t that many. I expect RR was playing the kind of role he mostly played as a B actor, a 2 dimensional type at best, and was careful to stay within those parameters in the public eye. Thus, the “Bedtime for Bonzo” meme that lingered over him.

Actors get into a role and use discipline to stay within it. I think that’s what Reagan did, even though the role was not that difficult. Other people were also running the show, esp during his second term when he was already suffering from Alzheimer’s.

271 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:57:54am

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome

According to a report by WTOP radio, the Virginia State Board Of Elections decided Friday to change rules relevant to Fairfax County, banning legal representatives from helping count votes, unless the associated voter was actually present. The board changing the rules is dominated by Republicans.

Fairfax County’s Electoral Board said Saturday that the modification affects hundreds of voters, and WTOP added that both Secretary Brian Schoeneman and Board Chairman Seth Stark expressed disagreement with the ruling. Provisional ballots are defined by the Virginia Board Of Elections as follows:

272 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 9:59:03am

re: #263 Political Atheist

I’m a little shocked at how hard the Philippines got hit. The fatality count is going to be terribly high. CNN Photos

I’m not shocked at all — we knew the day before it hit that it was the strongest hurricane, with the most perfectly-formed eye, since satellites began recording such things.

273 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:00:49am

So the nephew is back here, I thought I got rid him after three months of him more than doubling my electric bill, eating my food, and ordering pay-per-views on my cable account.

He got another placement as a home health-aid and was gone for three weeks. The legal guardian of the person he was assigned to help this time had already fired several people they tried to place there.

He stopped by to make sure it was ok if he needed to move back for a day or two of “sick leave.” That night he did move back (with only a little of his stuff) saying his glands were swollen and that he was feeling tired and run down.

Now five days later he is still here, not acting sick in the slightest and telling his parents that he is here because he has a kidney stone. Sigh…

I kinda doubt he still has his job and is just lying to all of us to cover-up the fact that he got fired yet again (for at least the 20th time). It isn’t like it costs all that much really to have him here, but the fact that he has never offered me a cent and that I know he is lying to me makes it kind of hard to simply shrug off.

He is here in the first place because my sister didn’t want to take him back into her house. At 26 years old he has never in his life supported himself for more than a few weeks at a time here and there.

I have decided to demand payment for the expenses he has caused me (added up minimally) to be paid by the end of the month, otherwise he is out of here. If he simply is not willing to work to support himself then I am not doing him any favors by enabling him to continue being irresponsible.

(He is too proud to apply for food stamp assistance but not too proud to eat my food for free? WTF?)

274 Lidane  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:08:18am

re: #271 Varek Raith

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome

That’s because suppressing the vote and cheating are the only things the GOP has in their playbook. Well, that and pandering to bigots, idiots, and religious fanatics.

275 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:19:00am

re: #271 Varek Raith

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome

republicans = third-world tin-pot dictator-style corruption.

276 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:22:29am

Oliver Stone is making the rounds on the interview circuit promoting his revised history of the US and some JFK conspiracy thing he did. It seems much of his motivation is rehabilitating the JFK. Stone sees JFK as some sort of progressive peacenik hero who didn’t want any conflict and wanted to align the US with the Soviets. He’s an odd dude.

277 piratedan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:27:46am

re: #275 Interesting Times

republicans = third-world tin-pot dictator-style corruption.

people who controlled the reins of power don’t want to give it up, yet its the very trademark of what makes America unique and successful as a nation. The GOP has allowed their tribal identity to trump their own adherence to our politics and laws. From the top down to the fucking county elections boards. We have a political crisis of sorts where the GOP is effectively attempting to govern by tantrum.

278 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:42:42am

re: #276 Killgore Trout

Oliver Stone is making the rounds on the interview circuit promoting his revised history of the US and some JFK conspiracy thing he did. It seems much of his motivation is rehabilitating the JFK. Stone sees JFK as some sort of progressive peacenik hero who didn’t want any conflict and wanted to align the US with the Soviets. He’s an odd dude.

That wasn’t JFK, not at all. I wonder how Stone rationalize Kennedy ordering Diem of South Vietnam overthrown and killed. That wasn’t the act of a president who wanted disengagement.

Stone error is his inability to accept the facts at the heart of the matter: John F. Kennedy sought to prevent communism from expanding where possible and expel communists from power where possible. In pursuing these goals he drew the ire of a communist named Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald decided to kill Kennedy in order to cause the US to take its CIA-lead pressure off of Cuba.

279 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:44:29am

Sad

Private schools in Pakistan ban Malala Yousafzai’s book

The All Pakistan Private Schools Federation, which says it represents more than 152,000 institutions across the country, has decided that allowing pupils to read the book, I am Malala, would have a “negative” effect on them. The federation also said it believed the book was not entirely respectful of Islam.

The book will not be included in the schools’ curriculum, nor will it be stocked in school libraries. Pakistan’s most elite schools belong to the federation. The government does not plan to teach it in state schools, though it is not banned.

“The federation thought we should review the book, and having reviewed it we came to the decision that the book was not suitable for our children, particularly not our students,” said the federation’s president, Mirza Kashif. “Pakistan is an ideological country. That ideology is based on Islam…. In this book are many comments that are contrary to our ideology.”

280 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:48:27am

re: #271 Varek Raith

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome

I don’t know how the hell that isn’t illegal. Typical of the Virginia GOP. They know they can’t win at the ballot box so they just suppress.

281 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:48:53am

re: #271 Varek Raith

Republicans Just Changed The Rules AFTER A Virginia Election To Change The Outcome

Why is this ruling problematic? Shouldn’t the person casting the ballot be the one who shows up to make sure it is counted? Legal representative for provisional ballots seems an invitation to fraud in my eyes.

282 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:49:13am

re: #278 Dark_Falcon

That wasn’t JFK, not at all. I wonder how Stone rationalize Kennedy ordering Diem of South Vietnam overthrown and killed. That wasn’t the act of a president who wanted disengagement.

Stone error is his inability to accept the facts at the heart of the matter: John F. Kennedy sought to prevent communism from expanding where possible and expel communists from power where possible. In pursuing these goals he drew the ire of a communist named Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald decided to kill Kennedy in order to cause the US to take its CIA-lead pressure off of Cuba.

from what I can gather Stone thinks the secret shadow government forced JFK into anti-communist stuff against his will. I think part of the cognitive dissonance comes from the fact that Kennedy was a man of his times and would have a hard time fitting in with today’s progressive ideals. He would probably be shunned as a “neocon” (which until very recently was called neo-liberal) and thrown out like Joe Lieberman.

283 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:50:05am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

Why is this ruling problematic? Shouldn’t the person casting the ballot be the one who shows up to make sure it is counted? Legal representative for provisional ballots seems an invitation to fraud in my eyes.

Did you need the part where they changed the rules after the election? Sigh. And you wonder why your party is toxic to many of us. One thing is for damn sure, I don’t want to hear from your party’s activists about “voter fraud” when they do shit like this in my state.

284 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:51:31am

re: #279 Killgore Trout

Sad

Private schools in Pakistan ban Malala Yousafzai’s book

They had to do that. If they hadn’t banned the book they’d have schools bombed by Islamist radicals. Malala is a very brave young woman, but her voice will no longer make an impact in Pakistan itself. Terrorism is simply too effective there.

285 Lidane  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:51:46am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

Why is this ruling problematic? Shouldn’t the person casting the ballot be the one who shows up to make sure it is counted? Legal representative for provisional ballots seems an invitation to fraud in my eyes.

Because changing the rules AFTER the election is a dick move.

286 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:52:44am

re: #285 Lidane

Because changing the rules AFTER the election is a dick move.

Well, that is true. but I don’t think it amounts to voter suppression in this case.

287 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:53:12am

re: #285 Lidane

Because changing the rules AFTER the election is a dick move.

Not to mention possibly illegal. And isn’t this just a coincidence that is happening in the part of the state where Herring is likely to do best against Obenshain? I’ve seen this shit from the Fairfax County GOP. They don’t want people voting. They fought a precinct on the GMU campus because they know students want nothing to do with their party so they did all possible (thankfully failed) to prevent the students tehre from getting a precinct.

288 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:55:02am

Update: Yesterday’s outrageous outrage was not that outrageous after all.
Tom Cruise did not make widely reported claim that acting is as tough as combat

thelead.blogs.cnn.com

I gave up on paying attention to the “person x says something outrageous!” stuff a while back. All too often it ends up being just another out of context soundbite.

289 Lidane  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:55:58am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Well, that is true. but I don’t think it amounts to voter suppression in this case.

Sure it does. The GOP were just fine with the rules until their guy was in danger of losing.

290 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:57:09am

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

They had to do that. If they hadn’t banned the book they’d have schools bombed by Islamist radicals. Malala is a very brave young woman, but her voice will no longer make an impact in Pakistan itself. Terrorism is simply too effective there.

I kind of doubt that this is just fear of Islamists. The conspiracy theories about her seem to be common and widely accepted enough that he book would probably be banned without the threat of terrorism.

291 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:59:42am

re: #289 Lidane

Sure it does. The GOP were just fine with the rules until their guy was in danger of losing.

Precisely. It’s not a coincidence that this is happening in Fairfax County.

292 Lidane  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 10:59:47am

re: #287 HappyWarrior

Not to mention possibly illegal. And isn’t this just a coincidence that is happening in the part of the state where Herring is likely to do best against Obenshain?

Republicans treat elections like a game of Calvinball. They’ll do everything they can to suppress the vote before election day, and if that doesn’t work they’ll come up with some bullshit reason why their guy won and why all these votes should or should not be counted.

293 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:01:02am

re: #292 Lidane

Republicans treat elections like a game of Calvinball. They’ll do everything they can to suppress the vote before election day, and if that doesn’t work they’ll come up with some bullshit reason why their guy won and why all these votes should or should not be counted.

Pretty much. As I said, I don’t want to hear from Republican activists about voter fraud when this is the kind of shit they pull whenever there’s a tight race.

294 Varek Raith  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:02:25am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Than why change the rule now, specifically for Fairfax county, after it was revealed a large number of uncounted votes were to be tallied? Oh, and it just happens Fairfax is bluer than the sky.
Please, this is fully intended to help your guy win.

295 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:02:55am

The French seem to be doing well for themselves lately.

Iran standoff sees France winning Gulf friends, influence

…the new element is the fear among Iran’s foes Israel and the Gulf states that the United States has turned softer on Iran, leaving Paris as the leading defender of their interests.

As France struggles to reform its weak domestic economy and watches Germany increasingly shape European Union policy, that is a realignment full of welcome trade and diplomatic promise for Hollande’s government.

“This is not just about arms sales … but about strategic influence in the region,” said Middle East specialist Shashank Joshi at the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) in London.

“France can win influence with Saudi Arabia and Israel.”

296 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:05:05am

re: #295 Killgore Trout

The French seem to be doing well for themselves lately.

Iran standoff sees France winning Gulf friends, influence

The Gulf States are very afraid of Iran. They’ll side with the nation they think can best protect them from the ‘Persian menace’,

297 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:05:29am

re: #294 Varek Raith

Than why change the rule now, specifically for Fairfax county, after it was revealed a large number of uncounted votes were to be tallied? Oh, and it just happens Fairfax is bluer than the sky.
Please, this is fully intended to help your guy win.

Yep, this. They had no problem at all with these ballots before hand. And now it comes out that some ballots in sky blue FC may tip the race to Herring’s hand. Yeah, this is their way of trying to steal victory from the jaws of defeat. And I hope the Herring campaign fights like hell to keep this counted. If they had a problem with this, they should have changed the law BEFORE the election not after when it was obvious they’d lose a nailbiter. You didnt’ see the Dems here trying to change things after the election when Byrne and Deeds lost close races for Lt. Governor and Attorney General eight years ago.

298 Justanotherhuman  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:07:57am

I guess the stupid woman ahead of me in line in the drive-through thought those workers weren’t getting her food fast enough to earn their minimum wage evidently, so she drove off, horn blaring, not just while driving to the right of other cars in the line, but across the adjacent parking lot. There were 3 other cars ahead of her and it only took a minute or 2 for them to pay and get their food, but she couldn’t wait a couple of more minutes.

What a dick move and a poor representative of the Irish (she had an “Ireland” sticker on her back window).

Mean people suck.

299 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 11:49:00am

re: #281 Dark_Falcon

Why is this ruling problematic? Shouldn’t the person casting the ballot be the one who shows up to make sure it is counted? Legal representative for provisional ballots seems an invitation to fraud in my eyes.

You need to go down there and drive grandma to the polls.

300 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 12:18:08pm

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

Well, that is true. but I don’t think it amounts to voter suppression in this case.

They’re doing the counties one at a time so State people can be on hand to supervise; then changed the rules in the middle of the process after the Republican-leaning counties had counted all their provisional ballots — without the voters needing to be there in person.

301 RealityBasedSteve  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 2:24:34pm

re: #155 Flounder

Do you think it is safe to shoot clear coat in my garage with the woodstove going? I found out my exhaust fan combined with a tight garage will reverse the draft in the chimney. Y’all watch this…

Hold on, I’ve got some spare ribs I’d like to smoke while your at it…

RBS

302 palomino  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:57:55pm

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

He kicked off his campaign there after being nominated because Philadelphia, Miss, was the site of a fair grounds, with the convention taking place during the period of county fair. The civil rights workers’ murders did not enter into Reagan’s campaign team’s calculations.

Moreover, Mississippi was not seen as a lock by the Republicans in 1980. Though people on LGF often speak of Nixon’s ‘Southern Strategy’, its worth remembering that most Southern states had voted for Jimmy Carter in 1976. As the Westerner facing a Southerner, Reagan and his team believed they had a tough row to hoe in the Magnolia State, hence a trip to a county fair right after being nominated was seen as a good idea. It also fit Reagan well, since he was much better in such situations than the socially awkward Nixon.

Post edited.

Translation: “Reagan is my superhero, and I will not believe anything bad about him. Even if virtually everyone, including other Republicans, admits that Reagan was pandering to states rights racists.”

If you knew ANYTHING about Miss., you’d know that “Philadelphia” was a huge dog whistle to the whites down there, who were still pissed off about desegregation, which was still being implemented at the time.


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