We Are the Transparent Machines

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This is a great little video, making an important point about our irrationality on privacy, in a world where Google, Facebook, Linkedin and many other large corporations know far more about each one of us than the NSA could ever dream of.

We are the Transparent Machines™ | fullscreen please |

Our society is obsessed with the conflicting concepts of transparency and privacy. We are “outraged” by the actions of the NSA, yet continue to willfully upload more and more of our personal information to Facebook and Google. This film explores the contradictory nature of our actions and beliefs regarding transparency.

directed by: beeple
sound design: standingwave
music: hecq - pulverized / hecq.de
voice over: rachel salaman

additional artwork from the project: behance.net
download the entire cinema4d project file: beeple-crap.com

more creative commons: beeple
info: beeple-crap.com
daily artwork: facebook.com
twitter: twitter.com

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136 comments
1 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:18:04pm

This is a great little video, making an important point about our irrationality on privacy.

Google, Facebook, Linkedin, etc. know far more about each one of us than the NSA could ever dream of.

2 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:21:53pm
3 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:23:37pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

So do credit card companies, stores and banks. I’d bet most people with a store credit card (like Macy’s, Sears, etc) don’t even realize how much info those companies have on file about their shopping habits, income, etc. I have a Facebook account, but I am way more careful and share far less than nearly everyone I know, but I’m under no illusion that my privacy is “safe” by any stretch.

4 A Mom Anon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:25:09pm

re: #2 darthstar

Holy crap. That’s awesome and freaking scary, and weird. I wonder if the dragon’s name is Cuddles.

5 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:27:56pm

re: #2 darthstar

The bite of a Komodo dragon is often lethal, not because it’s poisonous but because their mouths are a horrible septic mess of bacteria and awfulness. It’s not a good idea to do what that guy did. Not at all.

6 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:31:15pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

The bite of a Komodo dragon is often lethal, not because it’s poisonous but because their mouths are a horrible septic mess of bacteria and awfulness. It’s not a good idea to do what that guy did. Not at all.

Just like the bite of a human being.

7 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:31:46pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

The bite of a Komodo dragon is often lethal, not because it’s poisonous but because their mouths are a horrible septic mess of bacteria and awfulness. It’s not a good idea to do what that guy did. Not at all.

“That guy” does have nice thighs though. (only women are brave enough to cuddle a lizard that big)

8 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:34:06pm

re: #7 darthstar

“That guy” does have nice thighs though. (only women are brave enough to cuddle a lizard that big)

Looks like it came from “David @immaturebastard,” no?

9 William of Orange  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:37:41pm

Wanna see a real tongue twister??

Youtube Video

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:42:16pm

Guy, girl, whatever. Put the freaking Komodo dragon back in its cage.

11 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:44:12pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Guy, girl, whatever. Put the freaking Komodo dragon back in its cage.

It’s a free-range dragon. Put the guy/girl back in the cage.*

*Brought to you by PETKD
People for the Ethical Treatment of Komodo Dragons

12 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:46:09pm

re: #8 Charles Johnson

Looks like it came from “David @immaturebastard,” no?

Yes, but the person who took it is most definitely a woman.

13 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:48:56pm

Miley Cyrus did something, but Viacom has pulled all the videos off Teh Internets.

Whatever it was she did, I can’t be bothered to find out.

14 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:50:49pm
15 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:52:39pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Miley Cyrus did something, but Viacom has pulled all the videos off Teh Internets.

Whatever it was she did, I can’t be bothered to find out.

Posted a topless selfie & then smoked a joint on stage at MTV’s EMAs.

16 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:53:13pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Miley Cyrus did something, but Viacom has pulled all the videos off Teh Internets.

Whatever it was she did, I can’t be bothered to find out.

She stole secret documents and flew to China and then on to Russia. Hope she never comes back.

A guy can dream…

17 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:54:09pm

re: #13 Vicious Babushka

Miley Cyrus did something, but Viacom has pulled all the videos off Teh Internets.

Whatever it was she did, I can’t be bothered to find out.

Lights up joint on stage - in Amsterdam.

18 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:54:45pm

re: #15 William Barnett-Lewis

Posted a topless selfie & then smoked a joint on stage at MTV’s EMAs.

Missed the topless selfie, thank dog.

19 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:58:09pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Lights up joint on stage - in Amsterdam.

Yep, its on the Daily Mail too. Frankly, I think its just plain obnoxious and lame, but that’s just me.

I wish she’d get done rebelling and settle down a bit. Her current path doesn’t lead to good places.

20 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 5:59:18pm

re: #17 Stanley Sea

Lights up joint on stage - in Amsterdam.

I’m more impressed that she still fits into a onesie.

21 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:00:17pm

If Terrell Owens sparked up a doobie as part of his end-zone celebration schtick, I might have respected him more as a player.

22 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:00:44pm

Miley also won the Best Video award from MTV Europe for ‘Wrecking Ball’, and little twerp Justin Bieber won for ‘Best Male’. The latter award proves those handing out the awards are full of shit.

23 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:03:42pm

Miley Cyrus isn’t melting down - she’s following a script written by her managers and media consultants.

24 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:05:03pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Miley Cyrus isn’t melting down - she’s following a script written by her managers and media consultants.

She’s still getting bad advice from the Britney Spears/Lindsay Lohan School of Celebrity Management.

25 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:05:59pm

re: #23 Charles Johnson

Miley Cyrus isn’t melting down - she’s following a script written by her managers and media consultants.

I’m going to disagree. I thing it started out that way but has now taken on life of its own.

But that’s just my read, and you’re better at reading people than me,

26 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:10:58pm

re: #25 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to disagree. I thing it started out that way but has now taken on life of its own.

But that’s just my read, and you’re better at reading people than me,

She’s so in a damn fire hurry to prove that she isn’t just a child star that’s grown up and that her stint as Hannah Montana shouldn’t make her a one-note wonder, she’s going overboard off the deep end trying to stay relevant and in the spotlight.

27 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:16:03pm

re: #24 AlexRogan

She’s still getting bad advice from the Britney Spears/Lindsay Lohan School of Celebrity Management.

But it’s working - she’s in the news again, the ultimate goal.

28 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:16:33pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

The bite of a Komodo dragon is often lethal, not because it’s poisonous but because their mouths are a horrible septic mess of bacteria and awfulness. It’s not a good idea to do what that guy did. Not at all.

Actually, Komodo dragons born and raised in captivity won’t have the bacteria ridden saliva of a wild born specimen. Scientists are researching the Komodo dragons resistance to help develop new antibiotics.

29 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:17:32pm

re: #7 darthstar

“That guy” does have nice thighs though. (only women are brave enough to cuddle a lizard that big)

ITS A TRAP!

30 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:18:15pm

re: #27 Charles Johnson

But it’s working - she’s in the news again, the ultimate goal.

That’s the shitty part about it.

I can understand her not wanting to be typecast as Hannah Montana for the rest of her career, but I’ll be damned if I understand what makes her think that this shit she’s doing right now is good for her in the long run.

Young’uns can be stupid and short-sighted, can’t they?

31 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:19:50pm

So lame.

Camel toe is so ‘80’s.

Who remembers Madonna with the wig & the cig? Miley gonna top that?

32 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:20:24pm

Google Madonna with the wig & the cig at your own risk. NSFW or anywhere.

33 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:20:49pm

BRAIN BLEACH:

34 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #29 Kragar

ITS A TRAP!

Quite possibly: The Komodo Dragon is capable of bringing down human sized game animals. So its best not to annoy them.

On the other hand, as the largest of the monitor lizards, all Komodo Dragons are traditionally considered members of the Lizard Army.

35 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:22:26pm

Meanwhile, my 10 year old daughter just went over her strategy for an infantry assault using maneuver elements supported by a base of fire and armored assets, complete with contingencies for counter assaults and how to deal with strong points in preparation for our game tomorrow.

Lets see Miley top that.

36 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:22:51pm
37 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:23:39pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

Quite possibly: The Komodo Dragon is capable of bringing down human sized game animals. So its best not to annoy them.

On the other hand, as the largest of the monitor lizards, all Komodo Dragons are traditionally considered members of the Lizard Army.

I wasn’t talking about the lizard.

38 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:24:48pm

re: #31 Vicious Babushka

So lame.

Camel toe is so ‘80’s.

Who remembers Madonna with the wig & the cig? Miley gonna top that?

She’s not. It could only be done once. Miley doesn’t come as close to Madonna as Lady Gaga does, either, although that is in some part because Laday Gaga is from the same part of the US where Madonna first reached fame and she is of the same Italian ethnic background.

39 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:27:30pm

re: #37 Kragar

I wasn’t talking about the lizard.

What you think he thinks the lizard came lead him to an Exodite Eldar world?

40 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:30:59pm

Weird question, but today I was at the mall and on a whim I browsed in the Apple store.

I have a 14” Lenovo that I bought last year so it’s practically BRAND NEW.

Macbook Air or Macbook Pro or get another Windows thing?

I have not owned an Apple product since 1986.

41 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:31:28pm

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

What you think he thinks the lizard came lead him to an Exodite Eldar world?

Exodites, the Amish Eldar.

42 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:32:45pm

You kids with your selfies. In my day we had to buy film and load it into a camera and get it developed, while walking 20 miles to school through hailstorms and smog advisories.

43 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:33:42pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

You kids with your selfies. In my day we had to buy film and load it into a camera and get it developed, while walking 20 miles to school through hailstorms and smog advisories.

Macbook Air or Macbook Pro or Windows Surface?

44 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:34:33pm

Is owning a Mac like learning a new language, like French or something?

45 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:34:57pm

Maybe I should start small, like an iPad?

46 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:37:18pm

re: #41 Kragar

Exodites, the Amish Eldar.

In terms of avoiding tech, yes. In terms of non-violence, no. They are also more accepting of outsider Eldar than the Amish are of outsiders, although that only extends to other Eldar. They don’t like humans much, due to the Imperium hostility towards non-humans, and due to their (somewhat justified) belief that humans are more primitive that the Eldar.

47 Skip Intro  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:39:20pm

re: #24 AlexRogan

She’s still getting bad advice from the Britney Spears/Lindsay Lohan School of Celebrity Management.

She’s also following the Disney playbook for former child stars.

48 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:41:07pm

If I had to choose between a MacBook Pro and an iPad/other tablet, I’d definitely go for the Macbook Pro. iPad is great for basic tasks, but not so great if you need to go beyond the basics.

49 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:41:13pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

In terms of avoiding tech, yes. In terms of non-violence, no. They are also more accepting of outsider Eldar than the Amish are of outsiders, although that only extends to other Eldar. They don’t like humans much, due to the Imperium hostility towards non-humans, and due to their (somewhat justified) belief that humans are more primitive that the Eldar.

Oh, I know their history just fine. Its just they haven’t gotten around to letting me mow them down on the battlefield yet.

50 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:42:27pm

re: #48 Charles Johnson

If I had to choose between a MacBook Pro and an iPad/other tablet, I’d definitely go for the Macbook Pro. iPad is great for basic tasks, but not so great if you need to go beyond the basics.

BUT TEH EXPENSIF!!!!!

51 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:43:05pm

From the Army Center of Military History: An interactive web guide to the citations of all Congressional Medal of Honor winners.

history.army.mil

52 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:43:28pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

You kids with your selfies. In my day we had to buy film and load it into a camera and get it developed, while walking 20 miles to school through hailstorms and smog advisories.

and uphill…BOTH ways…

53 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:44:34pm

God, the creator of Tiny Tower teamed up with LucasArts and now I have Tiny Death Star. I HAD GOTTEN FREE, DAMMIT.

54 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:48:16pm

WTFITS?
No, it’s not [Godwin] it’s called “Obstruction of Justice” you dipshit.
Just proves not only wingnuts are Teh Stupid.

55 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:48:40pm

re: #53 klys

God, the creator of Tiny Tower teamed up with LucasArts and now I have Tiny Death Star. I HAD GOTTEN FREE, DAMMIT.

And which tiny world are you planning to be the subject of your superweapon’s ‘demonstration’?

56 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:49:28pm

If Andy Rooney actually said that he is Teh Stupid.

57 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:49:36pm

re: #47 Skip Intro

She’s also following the Disney playbook for former child stars.

Aguilera and Timberlake are two of the (very few) Disney child stars of the past 20 years that didn’t completely implode when they transitioned from child stardom to a legit adult showbiz career.

58 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:51:22pm
59 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:51:32pm

re: #57 AlexRogan

Aguilera and Timberlake are two of the (very few) Disney child stars of the past 20 years that didn’t completely implode when transitioned from child stardom to a good adult career.

While not a child star, Pink seems to have avoided the pitfalls that many of the other female stars who came out when she did fell into.

60 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:51:32pm

re: #57 AlexRogan

Aguilera and Timberlake are two of the (very few) Disney child stars of the past 20 years that didn’t completely implode when transitioned from child stardom to a good adult career.

So far Selena Gomez seems to be doing well too, but then she comes across as a more level headed sort than most celebrities.

61 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:53:08pm

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

If Andy Rooney actually said that he is Teh Stupid.

If he said it, it evades my Google Fu.

62 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:53:54pm

re: #58 darthstar

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Sikhs. I’ve actually known a few of those folks. Great guys, and fierce as well. Unfortunately, they are sometimes targeted by bigots who mistake them for Muslims.

63 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:54:10pm

re: #55 Dark_Falcon

And which tiny world are you planning to be the subject of your superweapon’s ‘demonstration’?

None, I am too busy building apartments and making sure I have a good balance of food and services and recreation and shopping.

64 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:54:47pm

re: #60 Dark_Falcon

So far Selena Gomez seems to be doing well too, but then she comes across as a more level headed sort than most celebrities.

Still, I have to question her judgment a bit, because she dated Bieber.

On the plus side, however, at least she dumped his ass when he showed himself to be an insufferable little asshole.

65 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:54:50pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

If he said it, it evades my Google Fu.

Well, we’ve seen fake quotes ‘from’ a lot of people lately. It would not surprise me at all if this is one more of those.

66 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:57:16pm

re: #42 Charles Johnson

You kids with your selfies. In my day we had to buy film and load it into a camera and get it developed, while walking 20 miles to school through hailstorms and smog advisories.

Uphill both ways. Barefoot.

67 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 6:58:50pm

re: #66 sagehen

Uphill both ways. Barefoot.

In ten feet of snow.

68 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:00:38pm

re: #63 klys

None, I am too busy building apartments and making sure I have a good balance of food and services and recreation and shopping.

Ah, come on! The Death Star is a defense contractor’s dream come true. The potential for gaining ‘consulting fees’ has to be huge (as long as the RA-7s don’t catch wise).

At least tell me you emplaced additional anti-starfighter laser cannons and are having thermal dispersion ducts put in to replace the thermal exhaust ports.

/Sorta.

69 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:02:11pm

re: #57 AlexRogan

Aguilera and Timberlake are two of the (very few) Disney child stars of the past 20 years that didn’t completely implode when they transitioned from child stardom to a decent adult showbiz career.

Ryan Goslin was in the Mickey Mouse Club with them, same year.

70 AlexRogan  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:07:38pm

re: #69 sagehen

Ryan Goslin was in the Mickey Mouse Club with them, same year.

I don’t keep up with all of them, but Aguilera and Timberlake were two that popped in my head as those who didn’t screw up (too badly).

71 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:08:17pm

They didn’t mention that “Google” reads all of your email, albeit, via a computer program, but still they do read everything to assign search tags (for your convenience), look for keywords and assign targeted ads.

So the difference between G-mail and the NSA’s Echelon program is what exactly? Well?

Surely some Dude-Bro can explain why they are somehow completely different even though they actually do exactly the same thing…right?

/

72 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:12:27pm

WTFITS

73 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:12:50pm

re: #71 ausador

They didn’t mention that “Google” reads all of your email, albeit, via a computer program, but still they do read everything to look for keywords and assign targeted ads.

So the difference between G-mail and the NSA’s Echelon program is what exactly? Well?

Surely some Dude-Bro can explain why they are somehow completely different even though they actually do exactly the same thing…right?

/

As I understand it at the moment, NSA actually has to get a warrant from a rather lame court. Google gets permission when you click the ToS.

74 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:13:27pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

Invitation to commit a kidnapping.

75 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:14:11pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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Isn’t that kidnapping?

76 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:14:37pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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The Fuck What It Is sounds like kidnapping.

77 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:14:55pm
78 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:15:38pm

GMTA

79 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:16:01pm

Because the Fetus has more value than the woman.

80 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:16:16pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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Evil mother fuckers

81 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:16:52pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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Wingnuts planning ‘false front’ operations. It’s a tactic normally seen in counter-insurgency (COIN) operations.

82 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:17:17pm

Found out today that my aunt was on the cover of the Military Advanced Education magazine (terribly specific, I know) last year about her work over in Afghanistan.

I read through the interview and it was interesting. There are a lot of resources for supporting the troops when it comes to trying to facilitate higher education in the field and that’s really encouraging to see.

83 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:17:25pm

So the endgame would be to imprison the woman until she delivers.

84 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:17:29pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

And then they wonder why people are getting fed the fuck up with Evangelical Christians and their bullshit.

85 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:17:58pm

re: #83 jaunte

So the endgame would be to imprison the woman until she delivers.

Better to never let them out of the house in the first place, in their book.

86 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:18:02pm

re: #83 jaunte

So the endgame would be to imprison the woman until she delivers.

They’re really not that far off from calling for that.

87 sagehen  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:26:25pm

Walking Dead updates

Died tonight

most of the people they brought from Woodbury. Redshirts galore.
The fenceful of walkers

Still alive

still there from season 1
Rick
Carl
Daryl
Glenn

joined them in season 2
Herschel
Maggie
Beth
Baby Judith

joined them in season 3
Michone
Tyrese
Sasha

we met them this season
Bob
Lizzie & other little girl

Future eps:

tonight we saw in the last 10 seconds that the Governor is standing outside the prison, watching them.
and I read somewhere that Morgan is coming back.

88 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:27:19pm

re: #82 klys

Found out today that my aunt was on the cover of the Military Advanced Education magazine (terribly specific, I know) last year about her work over in Afghanistan.

I read through the interview and it was interesting. There are a lot of resources for supporting the troops when it comes to trying to facilitate higher education in the field and that’s really encouraging to see.

Univ of Maryland and Troy State University are worldwide systems under the Army Continuing Education System (ACES). They contract to provide undergrad and graduate curricula . Son2 got a couple years of credits, while a dependent, from the UoM in Aviano, IT.

89 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:27:57pm

re: #80 Kragar

Evil mother fuckers

Indeed. Using a false front to stop a woman from getting an abortion is the act of a person without honor. It can only be called an act of treachery, imperiling the soul of the doer.

Trying to kidnap a woman this way is not an act the serves or pleases God; It is an act that serves and pleases Satan.

/Sorry about the religious angle, but it is only by that route that I can express my disgust at the depravity of such methods.

90 Interesting Times  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:29:37pm

re: #86 klys

They’re really not that far off from calling for that.

Ever heard of this movie?

Pro-life horror film ‘The Life Zone’ premieres at Hoboken International Film Festival

The plot as it played out: Three pregnant women wake up imprisoned in a hospital. Their only other contact is with their jailor - a mystery man played by Robert Loggia who occasionally appears on video to answer the women’s questions and explain the consequences of their disobedience - and an obstetrician, actress Blanche Baker as Dr. Victoria Wise, who will deliver the captive women’s babies whether or not their pro-choice views are changed.

As Dr. Wise explains it, “we’ll have an abortion think tank over the next seven months.”

The pregnant women are often tortured by dreams of death and despair - montages of swarming bees, swirling tornadoes and speeches by Hitler one night, African-Americans and foreigners shouting “abort me” in foreign tongues the next - while Dr. Wise experiences flashbacks to the dissolution of her marriage which fell apart when she learned she couldn’t bear children. Her parents cursed her for not taking better care of her body, a poor diet, too much work, while her husband - The Karate Kid’s bad sensei Martin Kove - divorces her, leaving her for a woman capable of having his children, a moment that pushes Dr. Wise to desperate measures.

Finally two of the three women come to accept human life exists inside them and less anxiously anticipate giving birth. But Staci still refuses to accept that the life inside her is anything more than a fetus. In her third trimester she attempts to injure herself and miscarry. It has unintended consequences.

All three women deliver and finally the first of the plot’s twists are revealed. Staci, most opposed to pregnancy, is blessed with two children - twins - while her fellow captives only give birth to one baby each.

Later, Staci wakes up. The two new mothers are no longer captives, they’ve presumably ascended to heaven with their babies. It’s revealed all along the women had been in Purgatory, after having died on the operating table of abortion clinics. But because Staci attempted to miscarry even after a second chance at motherhood, and because she never accepted the error of her ways until she experienced the physical joy of giving birth, of seeing her children for the first time, she will be doomed to eternity in Hell.

Loggia is Satan and he informs Staci she will spend all eternity in a cycle of pregnancy and childbirth and Dr. Wise will forever be her doctor, as the movie’s final twist plays out: Wise too will spend eternity in Hell. She was so weak she committed suicide when her marriage collapsed and must suffer the fate of forever bringing life into the world, endlessly having to appreciate what she did not value on Earth.

91 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:31:25pm

The “Constitution Party” shows its complete lack of understanding of the intent behind the document they are named after…

We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing all laws against obscenity.

2012 Constitution Party Platform

Our Motto: “Free speech for me, but not for thee!” /

92 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:31:31pm

re: #88 Decatur Deb

Univ of Maryland and Troy State University are worldwide systems under the Army Continuing Education System (ACES). They contract to provide undergrad and graduate curricula . Son2 got a couple years of credits, while a dependent, from the UoM in Aviano, IT.

Yep.

She was on-ground in Afghanistan for about two years working the support for offering classes in field over there, as well as administering testing and serving as guidance counselors for folks in the military - same type of resources that tend to be available for troops stationed in the more standard locations.

93 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:33:08pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

OK, so spending Eternity in a cycle of pregnancy and childbirth would be annoying, but really, that’s what they think Hell is?

94 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:33:16pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

Wait. So. They literally equate pregnancy with being in Hell in that film?

Way to encourage women to stay pregnant!

95 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:35:01pm

re: #92 klys

I should add, most of my knowledge of deployed military life comes from her.

Marines are apparently susceptible to chocolate, and it behooves you to make them your friends.

96 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:36:10pm

re: #94 klys

Wait. So. They literally equate pregnancy with being in Hell in that film?

Way to encourage women to stay pregnant!

Learn from their wisdom, Grasshopper.

97 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:37:35pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

This batshit crazy propaganda comes from writer-producer Ken Del Vecchio. He also gave us Kinky Killers, Rules (for Men (which features a massive pair of tits on its DVD box) and iMurders. Oh, he’s a Republican, an attorney and he’s also running for State Senate in New Jersey.
shocktillyoudrop.com

Also by Del Vecchio:

“O.B.A.M. Nude” is criticism of Barack Obama. The movie is about a college student, played by Del Vecchio, who makes a deal with the Devil to become President of the United States in exchange for millions of souls. The student goes to Harvard Law School and then becomes a community organizer. en.wikipedia.org

98 klys  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:39:01pm

re: #97 jaunte

Also by Del Vecchio:

There is apparently something about the name Del Vecchio and being from Jersey.

I wouldn’t want to say his name and summon him back, but our other friend from NJ shared this last name…

99 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:40:21pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

Ever heard of this movie?

Pro-life horror film ‘The Life Zone’ premieres at Hoboken International Film Festival

It kind of reminds me of the original movie version of Tales from the Crypt.

100 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:40:55pm

re: #87 sagehen

Walking Dead updates

Died tonight

[Embedded content]

Must….resist….the….click….

Must….resist….

AAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

101 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:41:42pm

re: #87 sagehen

Walking Dead updates

Died tonight

[Embedded content]

Did not click. Can’t wait tho.

102 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:43:37pm

re: #100 BongCrodny

Must….resist….the….click….

Must….resist….

AAAAAAUUUUUUGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!

Did you click??????

103 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:45:13pm

re: #90 Interesting Times

As founder and chairman of Hoboken International Film Festival
teapartycheer.com

How to get your movie premiered at a film festival:
1. Start your own film festival (It’s the Libertarian way!)

104 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:48:39pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

Did you click??????

Nope.

I’m being a good dead boy.

105 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:49:59pm

re: #103 jaunte

How to get your movie premiered at a film festival:
1. Start your own film festival (It’s the Libertarian way!)

True, but it does seem to be a legit operation, no matter how stupid that particular film is.

106 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:50:59pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. Using a false front to stop a woman from getting an abortion is the act of a person without honor. It can only be called an act of treachery, imperiling the soul of the doer.

Trying to kidnap a woman this way is not an act the serves or pleases God; It is an act that serves and pleases Satan.

/Sorry about the religious angle, but it is only by that route that I can express my disgust at the depravity of such methods.

I would think the women would be able to charge the drivers with kidnapping under the law.

“The crime of unlawfully seizing and carrying away a person by force or Fraud”

Which could be tried under Federal law, not locals who might write it off.

107 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:52:01pm

re: #106 Kragar

It’s only creepy fictional encouragement right up until someone actually does it.

108 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:53:53pm

re: #104 BongCrodny

Nope.

I’m being a good dead boy.

So you didn’t see the part when the “Space marines” came down from their orbital platform and cut the walkers to bits with their “space lasers?”

Damn, sucks that you missed it, you must be sad now…

/// :p

109 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:56:37pm

re: #108 ausador

So you didn’t see the part when the “Space marines” came down from their orbital platform and cut the walkers to bits with their “space lasers?”

Damn, sucks that you missed it, you must be sad now…

/// :p

Astartes use bolters, not lasguns, you cretin!

110 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:57:37pm

re: #107 jaunte

It’s only creepy fictional encouragement right up until someone actually does it.

No, its worse than that. It’s a wingnut version of asymmetric warfare: just the threat of this will cause some women who hear of it to decline offered transportation for fear of a trap, especially if incidents of this occurring are either documented or faked. At the same time, the threat of ‘false front’ people and electronic subterfuge forces groups favoring access to abortion to devote funds and time away from their primary mission and into security measures.

The tactic potentially hands those who devised it a two-part victory. That’s why it struck me as a thing of the Devil, because of the sick intelligence of it.

111 Kragar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 7:57:54pm

I have been informed that no matter what the kids are listening to in their room, I am not allowed to “Go insane, go insane, throw some glitter, make it rain.”

112 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:02:48pm

re: #111 Kragar

I have been informed that no matter what the kids are listening to in their room, I am not allowed to “Go insane, go insane, throw some glitter, make it rain.”

Youtube Video

“I’m not crazy, you’re the one thats crazy…”

113 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:04:20pm

re: #105 calochortus

True, but it does seem to be a legit operation, no matter how stupid that particular film is.

Hoboken International Film Festival Sponsored Prize Winners

Grand Prize:

A lady’s 18 carat yellow gold “Eternal Gum Drop Ring” with a golden citrine cabochon center stone and 0.14 carats in accent diamonds, from Eternal Fine Jewelers, valued at $1,900

Winner: Priscilla Holden, Middletown, NY

hobokeninternationalfilmfestival.com

114 BongCrodny  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:04:57pm

re: #108 ausador

So you didn’t see the part when the “Space marines” came down from their orbital platform and cut the walkers to bits with their “space lasers?”

Damn, sucks that you missed it, you must be sad now…

/// :p

I think everybody missed that part. :)

115 palomino  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:06:10pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

WTFITS

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A perfect example of the presumptuousness and arrogance of American evangelicals. It’s so important that they “minister” to others that doing so under false pretenses doesn’t cross their minds as immoral.

Let’s get one thing clear: whether you’re Al Gore or just the average pointy headed liberal, there’s no way you can be as arrogant as most religious zealots, our evangelicals included.

The most arrogant thing the liberal does is tell the conservative he’s stupid and backwards. The conservative, on the other hand, condemns the liberal to hell for all eternity. Pretty big difference. And a total dealbreaker for me.

116 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:06:12pm

re: #105 calochortus

Supported by numerous powerhouse partners that have included FOX, CBS, The New York Post, The Hilton, 101.9 RXP, Little Italy’s Merchant Association, The Marriott, Singha Beer, Anheuser-Bush, Boylan Soda, Pop Chip, Illy Coffee, Zyr Vodka, Sailor Jerry Rum, and many others, Hoboken International Film Festival is hosted by Gilbert Gottfried.
teapartycheer.com

Can’t argue with Gilbert Gottfried.

117 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:06:45pm

re: #116 jaunte

Can’t argue with Gilbert Gottfried.

He’s aristocratic.

118 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:13:09pm

Bacterial strain of E. coli linked to prepackaged salads, sandwiches by California company

More than 90 tons of prepackaged salads and sandwiches by a California catering company are being recalled because a bacterial strain of E. coli has been linked to its products.
…………
The products were produced between Sept. 23 and Nov. 6, and were shipped to distribution centers in California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Texas.
……………
The Contra Costa Times reports (bit.ly ) the company has supplied food to Trader Joe’s, Super Fresh Goods and Delish

119 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:13:36pm

re: #113 Decatur Deb

I’m sure it’s lovely…

120 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:13:44pm

re: #115 palomino

A perfect example of the presumptuousness and arrogance of American evangelicals. It’s so important that they “minister” to others that doing so under false pretenses doesn’t cross their minds as immoral.

Let’s get one thing clear: whether you’re Al Gore or just the average pointy headed liberal, there’s no way you can be as arrogant as most religious zealots, our evangelicals included.

The most arrogant thing the liberal does is tell the conservative he’s stupid and backwards. The conservative, on the other hand, condemns the liberal to hell for all eternity. Pretty big difference. And a total dealbreaker for me.

I’m going to disagree with that. The most arrogant thing some (but not all) liberals do is to think that they know better than other people how to run those other people’s lives. That is close to what you were saying, but in my mind better captures the arrogance of it.

121 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:14:29pm

re: #118 jaunte

Bacterial strain of E. coli linked to prepackaged salads, sandwiches by California company

Just another reason that I try to avoid prepackaged stuff like that.

122 jaunte  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:16:09pm

re: #121 calochortus

Sometimes it’s tough to do at the airport. Good to have the twitter early warning system.

123 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:18:17pm

re: #118 jaunte

As opposed to non-bacterial strains of E. coli?

124 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:18:26pm

re: #122 jaunte

Absolutely-note that I *try* to avoid it.

125 palomino  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:20:28pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

I’m going to disagree with that. The most arrogant thing some (but not all) liberals do is to think that they know better than other people how to run those other people’s lives. That is close to what you were saying, but in my mind better captures the arrogance of it.

But conservatives also believe that. Just look at their preferences for laws on abortion, gay rights, and pot legalization, among others. Yes, Democrats think they know some things better, which I implied by saying Dems often look at Repubs with “you’re dumb” condescension.

But tell me honestly: What’s more arrogant: “everyone should have health insurance” or “gays are violating God’s law and don’t deserve equality under the law”?

And then there’s the BIG point of my argument, which you don’t even address. Liberals don’t condemn conservatives to hell, which is about the most arrogant thing possible. Religious conservatives, on the other hand, LOVE condemning liberals to hell.

126 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:21:36pm

re: #125 palomino

And then there’s the BIG point of my argument, which you don’t even address. Liberals don’t condemn conservatives to hell, which is about the most arrogant thing possible. Religious conservatives, on the other hand, LOVE condemning liberals to hell.

Fortunately they lack the power to actually do that. They can only dream.

127 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:25:50pm

I think the Saints might win this game.

128 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:27:52pm

re: #125 palomino

But conservatives also believe that. Just look at their preferences for laws on abortion, gay rights, and pot legalization, among others. Yes, Democrats think they know some things better, which I implied by saying Dems often look at Repubs with “you’re dumb” condescension.

But tell me honestly: What’s more arrogant: “everyone should have health insurance” or “gays are violating God’s law and don’t deserve equality under the law”?

And then there’s the BIG point of my argument, which you don’t even address. Liberals don’t condemn conservatives to hell, which is about the most arrogant thing possible. Religious conservatives, on the other hand, LOVE condemning liberals to hell.

I did not address your biggest point because I do not dispute it, save to note that not all religious conservatives are so arrogant as to believe they know the will of the Lord so well as to regard another person as damned.

129 ausador  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:29:29pm

Dude, where the heck did my boat go? I swear we left it right here…

Youtube Video

(A cement carrier ship was trying to leave port when the pusher tug boat had an engine failure, this was the result).

130 darthstar  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:30:32pm

re: #127 darthstar

I think the Saints might win this game.

I think Dallas’ goal tonight is to hold the Saints to less than 620 yards…which they can do if they can run off the last six minutes without giving the ball back.

131 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:33:00pm

re: #129 ausador

Dude, where the heck did my boat go? I swear we left it right here…

[Embedded content]

(A cement carrier ship was trying to leave port when the pusher tug boat had an engine failure, this was the result).

oops

132 Stanley Sea  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:36:11pm

Night all. Hope you had a great B-day Dark!

133 Belafon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:37:00pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

The most arrogant thing some (but not all) liberals do is to think that they know better than other people how to run those other people’s lives.

That’s never been a feature of just liberals: See slavery, Evangelicalism, abortion, trying to fix gays.

The true arrogance of a liberal is this: All problems have a solution, and that it’s the failure of some people to want solve a problem that prevents things from getting fixed.

The arrogance of conservatives is that an individual either succeeds or fails almost entirely because of some characteristic of that person, and it is the success of a person that defines his or her authority.

134 Usually refered to as anyways  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:42:46pm

re: #128 Dark_Falcon

Gday Dark_Falcon,

Missed your birthday, happy birthday mate, hope you enjoyed your day.
Also hope there’s a job for you in the near future.

Cheers

135 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:47:24pm

re: #132 Stanley Sea

re: #134 Usually refered to as anyways

Thanks folks. My birthday wasn’t great, but it was decent.

136 calochortus  Sun, Nov 10, 2013 8:48:15pm

re: #135 Dark_Falcon

Thanks folks. My birthday wasn’t great, but it was decent.

Have an extra birthday upding. It’s not much, but hey, it’s something.


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