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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:11:01am |
Can’t say we haven’t been heartily warned!
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Dying at “Mormons” RT @desusnice: I'm 6 out of the 9 listed. Not too shabby. pic.twitter.com/CHJq49xvL5
— D'Brickashaw (@DragonflyJonez) November 20, 2013
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:12:12am |
The best answer to thuggish threats from the govt against press freedoms is to keep publishing fearlessly http://t.co/24SNTD5tx3— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 20, 2013
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Sol Berdinowitz Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:12:30am |
There is the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony, which was once identical with marriage, but is no longer. Let the Catholics do what they want with marriage in the eyes of God, but our Constitution and laws say that the definition is more catholic (as in all-embracing) than the Catholic (as in the Vatican) one.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:13:14am |
This, forever. http://t.co/WClYBRI250— Spencer Ackerman (@attackerman) November 20, 2013
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:15:37am |
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
Can’t say we haven’t been heartily warned!
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“…Asskickers, Shitkickers, and Methodists!”
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:18:54am |
Greenbeck misses being the center of attention, the poor dear.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:19:24am |
Ah, so its not about gay marriage, its about heterosexuals not really knowing what real marriage is.
What a turd.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:20:16am |
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
Can’t say we haven’t been heartily warned!
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As an aside, I suppose they can find biblical justification (Leviticus, no doubt), for a lot of those, but Potheads? Sports Nuts?
And, of course, Lewd Men apparently have nothing to worry about.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:20:53am |
Fox News is STILL unskewing the polls. pic.twitter.com/kJ3zXuQ30C— Tyler Hansen (@tylerisajoke) November 20, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:21:22am |
And then Santorum slams the whole concept of adoption.
Asshole.
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:22:35am |
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
Can’t say we haven’t been heartily warned!
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This guy needs a better hobby.
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jaunte Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:23:34am |
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
He seems eager to let women know how badly they’ve failed him.
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Skip Intro Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:24:13am |
Another day. Another discovery of an #NSA listening post in Berlin. pic.twitter.com/ZgXDGgeK6p
— Nein. (@NeinQuarterly) November 18, 2013
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:25:39am |
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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I guara-damn-tee if the CAMPAIGN were ongoing and the election were held today, Mitt would still lose. A year of no exposure has allowed people to forget what a colossal asshole he is.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:26:46am |
santorum refers to hispanics as one of those groups of ‘minorities’
technically, white males are a ‘minority’ as well - i look forward to hearing us described that way
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:26:47am |
re: #10 GeneJockey
As an aside, I suppose they can find biblical justification (Leviticus, no doubt), for a lot of those, but Potheads? Sports Nuts?
And, of course, Lewd Men apparently have nothing to worry about.
No such thing as lewd men.
No matter what we do, it never crosses the line.
However, if a woman so much as farts and reminds us she has an asshole where a dick will fit, she is being lewd.
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:26:50am |
re: #17 GeneJockey
I guara-damn-tee if the CAMPAIGN were ongoing and the election were held today, Mitt would still lose. A year of no exposure has allowed people to forget what a colossal asshole he is.
Governing is unpopular. Hiding in La Jolla is comparatively popular.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:27:58am |
re: #1 Backwoods_Sleuth
Can’t say we haven’t been heartily warned!
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Wait a minute…Sports nuts…WTH????
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:28:53am |
re: #12 Charles Johnson
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Notice the margin of error. Easily enough to swing it either way,
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:29:03am |
re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg
Wait a minute…Sports nuts…WTH????
I’ve been cogitating on that.
Figured it must have something to do with Sunday football games…
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:29:37am |
And by the way, whatever happened to “Generic Republican”?
I miss that guy.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:30:10am |
re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’ve been cogitating on that.
Figured it must have something to do with Sunday football games…
Either that or it has to do with “idolizing” and worshipping sports teams and icons instead of Religious ones.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:30:20am |
re: #24 Eclectic Cyborg
And by the way, whatever happened to “Generic Republican”?
I miss that guy.
He can’t get nominated anymore.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:30:33am |
Rob Ford: The Daily Show devotes eight-minute segment to mayor
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:30:55am |
Larry Pratt and Alex Jones Blame Mass Shootings on 'Inherently Violent' Liberals http://t.co/LLzxFc14lJ— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 20, 2013
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:31:28am |
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lawhawk Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:31:42am |
re: #9 Kragar
Wait. Let us consult the conservative fourfathers (among others):
Rush Limbaugh - check (more marriages, the better).
Newt Gingrich - check (and throw in adultery too).
David Vitter - prostitutes don’t count against the sacred bond of marriage!
Mark Sanford - I was just hiking the Appalachian Trail!
Outlier here:
John McCain - hey, I might have had an affair, but I married her after divorcing my first wife.
I could see how someone might get the wrong idea.
The statistics also seem to indicate that Republicans don’t really value the institution of marriage as much as they claim.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:34:12am |
McDonald’s tells their employees to sell Christmas gifts, sing and go to church to get by
Wage advocates Low Pay is Not OK have made a video ridiculing McDonald’s for posting a holiday survival guide on their McResources website.
Among the golden nuggets of advice:
• Take a holiday - it will reduce your risk of heart attack by 50 per cent
• Sell your unopened Christmas presents online to make some “quick cash”
• Sing to lower your blood pressure
• Cut your food into smaller bites to make it last longer
• Use olive oil to prevent the blues
• Quit complaining, it only increases your stress
And from a different story on the same issue:
These and other tips appear on a “McResource Line” website created by the McDonald’s Corp. to advise workers on stress, health and personal finances. Among the tips that appear on the site:
“Chewing gum can reduce cortisol levels by 16%”; “At least two vacations a year can cut heart attack risk by 50%”
“Singing along to your favorite songs can lower your blood pressure”
“People who attend more church services tend to have lower blood pressure.”
The site also offers dietary tips for physical and mental health: “The tryptophan in cheese will increase serotonin levels and boost your mood”; “Trans fats raise the risk of depression, while olive oil can prevent the blues” and “Breaking food into pieces often results in eating less and still feeling full.”
Time to fire the people who thought it was a good idea to present employees with these boneheaded tips. It’s like some clueless exec told some intern to do Google searches for tips and compile the results into something they could pass on to front line workers.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:34:24am |
re: #30 lawhawk
Wait. Let us consult the conservative fourfathers (among others):
Rush Limbaugh - check (more marriages, the better).
Newt Gingrich - check (and throw in adultery too).
David Vitter - prostitutes don’t count against the sacred bond of marriage!
Mark Sanford - I was just hiking the Appalachian Trail!Outlier here:
John McCain - hey, I might have had an affair, but I married her after divorcing my first wife.I could see how someone might get the wrong idea.
The statistics also seem to indicate that Republicans don’t really value the institution of marriage as much as they claim.
If it weren’t for homosexuals wanting to get married, none of that would have happened!
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:36:15am |
re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg
“How Not To Starve On The Crap Wages We Pay You”, or, “See? We’re Not Really Heartless Bastards!”
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:36:57am |
re: #27 Bubblehead II
Rob Ford: The Daily Show devotes eight-minute segment to mayor
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Just leave Bob alone!!!
Him and his brother are our new hosers - Bob and Doug Mac Ford.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:37:54am |
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:39:58am |
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:40:00am |
re: #31 Eclectic Cyborg
McDonald’s tells their employees to sell Christmas gifts, sing and go to church to get by
And from a different story on the same issue:
These and other tips appear on a “McResource Line” website created by the McDonald’s Corp. to advise workers on stress, health and personal finances. Among the tips that appear on the site:
Time to fire the people who thought it was a good idea to present employees with these boneheaded tips. It’s like some clueless exec told some intern to do Google searches for tips and compile the results into something they could pass on to front line workers.
These are the same entitled idiots who advised workers on “keeping a budget” that required A SECOND JRRB.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:41:01am |
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
New canned response to these people: Show me where the LAX shooter was a Liberal.
HURR HURR LAX SHOOTER WAS AN OBAMA VOTER!!!!!!!!
SOMEBODY TWEETED ABOUT IT BUT TEH GOVERNMENT REMOVED TAHT TWEET RIGHT AWAY!!!!! COVERUP!!!!!!111 FALSE FLAG!!11!!!11!!!!TY
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Lidane Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:41:55am |
Conservative group reverses position that @TheHungerGames is an evil, corrupting, gay, Nazi film http://t.co/twxjj6XW0U— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:42:30am |
re: #36 Eclectic Cyborg
New canned response to these people: Show me where the LAX shooter was a Liberal.
Der, he had to be a liberal, because only liberals are mass shooters, hurr hurr.
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:43:32am |
re: #40 Kragar
Der, he had to be a liberal, because only liberals are mass shooters, hurr hurr.
Bovine fecal matter.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:48:04am |
re: #39 Lidane
OFFS. I just. I can’t. What a bunch of joyless freakosauruses. Can you imagine having to live with people like that? I’d prefer homelessness, honest to god. I’d rather take my chances under an overpass with people who have nothing than these godbothering shitmuffins.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:48:11am |
Pat Robertson shouts ‘Revolution!’ over Obamacare: ‘People are going to die’
Whereas before the ACA, despite not having access to healthcare, all Americans would have lived forever.
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Lidane Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:48:57am |
This is my shocked face:
WND says George Zimmerman is a right-wing hero and blames media for domestic violence allegations http://t.co/UyxIHJaBib— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2013
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BongCrodny Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:51:15am |
That poll is insane.
14% of the respondents think the Tea Party is too liberal.
Um…
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:54:48am |
re: #44 Kragar
Pat Robertson shouts ‘Revolution!’ over Obamacare: ‘People are going to die’
Whereas before the ACA, despite not having access to healthcare, all Americans would have lived forever.
HURR HURR OBAMA WANTZ TO TAEK AWAY ALL TEH INSURANCES FROM EVERYBODYS!!!!111!!!1!!!!!
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:55:06am |
re: #45 Lidane
This is my shocked face:
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It’s exactly the same as the slut shaming mentality when rape allegations come out. Why is it ALWAYS the victims fault?
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:55:47am |
re: #46 BongCrodny
That poll is insane.
14% of the respondents think the Tea Party is too liberal.
Um…
I’m guessing all 14 percent of those responders wear white hoods.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:56:06am |
A national scandal. RT @SenSanders: Dying Young in America: http://t.co/gf362xbfxH pic.twitter.com/Dmu2Gj5iAc #UniteBlue— Theophilus Punoval (@Samosata) November 20, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:56:26am |
re: #50 Eclectic Cyborg
I’m guessing all 14 percent of those responders wear white hoods.
It keeps the dust from accumulating on the tin foil.
/
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 11:56:31am |
re: #46 BongCrodny
That poll is insane.
14% of the respondents think the Tea Party is too liberal.
Um…
Dafuq?
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:05:00pm |
WTFITS
Funny headline, but we're not laughing. ‘Man Signs Up For His Insurance; His Dog Gets Covered Instead’ http://t.co/Q0HvrbNEr8— Reince Priebus (@Reince) November 20, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:07:23pm |
re: #54 Learned Pie Of Zion
You know, Ron Burgundy had a dog named Baxter. I’m calling shenanigans.
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lawhawk Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:09:11pm |
re: #53 GeneJockey
That question is particularly illuminating when you look at the results by education level.
Those who think the TP is too conservative increases significantly the more education one has. High school education only, and you’re most likely to think that it’s about right. Post grads think that it’s way too conservative.
HS - 24%
Some college - 41%
College grad - 53%
Post grad - Too conservative 67%
That goes to the you can fool some people some of the time, but not once they’re educated and able to think for themselves.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:14:10pm |
re: #47 klys
Directory of C:
File Not Found.
…yeah.
Fortunately, system repair + turn it off and then back on again seems to have fixed that problem.
Also, if one has three cats including two long-hair cats, maybe cleaning out the inside of the gaming PC should be done a little more often than just when the fan starts to complain.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:15:56pm |
The place for a nuanced discussion on how search engines filter and tailor their results should not be regarding easy access to child porn. Full stop.
Why is this so fucking hard?
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GunstarGreen Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:16:01pm |
re: #56 lawhawk
It turns out that when a core tenet of one’s ideology is “Education bad, derned ivory tower elites”, being educated becomes anethema to continued belief in that ideology.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:20:49pm |
Tea Party speaker wants to repeal all amendments, including abolition of slavery & women's vote, after Bill of Rights http://t.co/FjtOk8zVUI— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2013
Our mission statement starts off with: We at 2 Million Bikers to DC do believe in God, Country, our Constitution, our Bill of Rights - as written. That means there should not be change. We don’t care about all of those Bill of Rights that came after the original. We want to go back to our Founding Fathers’ views and beliefs. We are one nation under God, and without God, we are not America. I’m gonna tell you right now, the first thing that I hear somebody talk about is ‘I have freedom from religion.’ No sir that’s not what it says, it says freedom of religion. Do not preach to me about this not being a God country. It was founded on God. They came over here and left to come here to be able to have the freedom to be a Christian, and to have the God that we have, that brought this country together, that this country was created after.Bee may want to think through her position: getting rid of all those later amendments and returning to the vision of the founders would not only make slavery legal and abolish women’s right to vote, it would also allow President Obama to run for a third term.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:21:21pm |
re: #57 klys
Fortunately, system repair + turn it off and then back on again seems to have fixed that problem.
Also, if one has three cats including two long-hair cats, maybe cleaning out the inside of the gaming PC should be done a little more often than just when the fan starts to complain.
I cleaned out my 4-5 year old laptop recently and there was remarkably little cat hair lodged in it. More crap in the keyboard than I liked to see, but that’s me and not the cats.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:21:43pm |
Costco apologizes for Bibles marked as “Fiction”
Costco’s had some explaining to do after the pastor of a non-denominational church in California happened upon a particular display of Bibles at his local Costco store.
He says he was shopping for a gift for his wife when he found a bunch of Bibles with price tags reading “fiction.”
He of course snapped a photo and tweeted it out to his congregation, telling KTLA-5 News that tried to find somebody to ask about the books, but couldn’t.
His tweet included the caption: “Costco has Bibles for sale under the genre of fiction…hmmmm.”
“I checked to see if the other Bibles were like that, and they were,” he explains.
As for his tweet and his congregation, he tells KCBS-TVthere’s been a range of reactions.
“A lot of people were upset. Some people were fine with it. To me, I don’t know why you’d label something as fiction,” he said.
The pastor says Costco reached out to him and said that the problem was an error by distributors. The company has since issued an apology, saying:
“Costco’s distributor mislabeled a small percentage of the Bibles, however we take responsibility and should have caught the mistake. We are correcting this with them for future distribution,” Costco said in a statement. “In addition, we are immediately relabeling all mislabeled Bibles. We greatly apologize for this error.”
Whether you believe it’s the word of God or just another work of fiction, the pastor says it can be a learning experience, telling KCBS-TV he thinks any discussion of the topic is good.
“It’s caused a lot of controversy, it’s caused a lot of conversation, which I think conversation is good,” says.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:22:53pm |
re: #61 Feline Fearless Leader
I cleaned out my 4-5 year old laptop recently and there was remarkably little cat hair lodged in it. More crap in the keyboard than I liked to see, but that’s me and not the cats.
Between the cat hair (which was less than you might think, but the case has screens guarding most of the intakes, so…) and the dust, the buildup was such that one of the bearings on the main intake fan was unhappy, I think.
Cleaned that all out, sorted out the boot issue, and it seems to be running happily now. Knock on wood.
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Lidane Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:24:27pm |
re: #46 BongCrodny
That poll is insane.
14% of the respondents think the Tea Party is too liberal.
Um…
A member of that 14% —
Tea Party speaker wants to repeal all amendments, including abolition of slavery & women's vote, after Bill of Rights http://t.co/FjtOk8zVUI— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2013
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:25:29pm |
re: #60 Kragar
Not to mention that we should then also start rolling back all the state laws, etc. to what was around in 1790-1800 or so. Let’s see. No universal male sufferage either, just the landed (or holding sufficient wealth) men get to vote. Indentured servitude - so we get a semi-equivalent of slavery for white folks too.
And a lot of these “Let’s do that, hell yeh!” men would also soon find out that they stood on the wrong side of the dividing line between “having power” and “serving power”.
Idiots.
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GunstarGreen Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:26:11pm |
re: #60 Kragar
This person… is aware that the Bill of Rights itself is just a collection of the first ten amendments to the constitution? That it is, itself, a list of changes to the original document?
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Lidane Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:28:32pm |
re: #67 GunstarGreen
This person… is aware that the Bill of Rights itself is just a collection of the first ten amendments to the constitution? That it is, itself, a list of changes to the original document?
Pfft. You and your convenient facts. What are you, some kinda commie pinko?
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:28:40pm |
@JerAHolden @mmfa maybe even under Cthulhu. Yeah, definitely Cthulhu— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 20, 2013
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:30:41pm |
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:31:11pm |
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GunstarGreen Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:31:34pm |
re: #70 Learned Pie Of Zion
Who buys a Bible at Costco?
The kind of person that takes serious issue with bibles being sold under ‘fiction’.
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:31:56pm |
re: #70 Learned Pie Of Zion
Who buys a Bible at Costco?
I get mine at Sam’s. Much cheaper by the pallet.
/
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Lidane Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:32:08pm |
re: #70 Learned Pie Of Zion
Who buys a Bible at Costco?
Someone that forgot to buy a Bible at Wal-Mart or Sam’s?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:32:23pm |
re: #70 Learned Pie Of Zion
Who buys a Bible at Costco?
The Christian who wants a Chicken Bake with his bible?
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HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:33:04pm |
re: #67 GunstarGreen
This person… is aware that the Bill of Rights itself is just a collection of the first ten amendments to the constitution? That it is, itself, a list of changes to the original document?
I really don’t think they know that.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:33:08pm |
Love having a process meeting, where we go over what happens every day of our work cycle.
So Day one, we do this, Day 2 this, etc etc…
So the manager asks “What happens on day 6?”
“Thats Saturday, we’re all off.”
“But we need to speed up this process.”
“You going to hire new people or pay for over time?”
“No.”
“Then nothing happens on days 6 and 7 and we pick up on Day 8.”
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jaunte Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:33:58pm |
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:34:01pm |
re: #71 erik_t
Today’s Value-Minded Christian.
Wouldn’t they buy a Bible at Walmart, Costco pays their workers a Commie living wage.
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:34:04pm |
re: #75 HappyWarrior
The Christian who wants a Chicken Bake with his bible?
Chicken Bake and a berry smoothie.
MmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmm.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:34:34pm |
re: #80 erik_t
Chicken Bake and a berry smoothie.
MmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmm.
That sounds really good and like not a lot of work on my part. Hmmm.
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HappyWarrior Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:36:03pm |
re: #80 erik_t
Chicken Bake and a berry smoothie.
MmmmMMMMMMMmmmmmm.
Yep and for a good price too. I was just at Costco actually. Got some rice stuffed grape leaves. Delish.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:36:40pm |
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:38:24pm |
OT: My grandmother, still doing well at 86 years old bless her heart, is the most DIFFICULT person to shop for at Christmas. Not in a “she’s old and has everything” kind of way, but rather in a “it’s difficult to find a gift with the right meaning” kind of way.
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danarchy Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:39:31pm |
re: #67 GunstarGreen
This person… is aware that the Bill of Rights itself is just a collection of the first ten amendments to the constitution? That it is, itself, a list of changes to the original document?
I wonder if she would be in favor of a constitutional amendment to remove the part of the original constitution that allows for amendment…
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Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:39:45pm |
re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg
OT: My grandmother, still doing well at 86 years old bless her heart, is the most DIFFICULT person to shop for at Christmas. Not in a “she’s old and has everything” kind of way, but rather in a “it’s difficult to find a gift with the right meaning” kind of way.
She in Canada? Give her a bus ticket to Panama City Beach so she can be with her friends.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:39:46pm |
re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg
OT: My grandmother, still doing well at 86 years old bless her heart, is the most DIFFICULT person to shop for at Christmas. Not in a “she’s old and has everything” kind of way, but rather in a “it’s difficult to find a gift with the right meaning” kind of way.
I sometimes fall back on either homemade things or something that is an experience that they can have instead of a thing. Extra bonus points if it is an experience they can share with you, although I know that’s not always possible.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:43:00pm |
re: #86 Decatur Deb
She in Canada? Give her a bus ticket to Panama City Beach so she can be with her friends.
I appreciate the sentiment, but most of my grandmothers friends are either living locally year round or deceased.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:43:12pm |
re: #84 Eclectic Cyborg
OT: My grandmother, still doing well at 86 years old bless her heart, is the most DIFFICULT person to shop for at Christmas. Not in a “she’s old and has everything” kind of way, but rather in a “it’s difficult to find a gift with the right meaning” kind of way.
Make her a macaroni art picture. She probably still thinks you’re 6 years old.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:44:37pm |
re: #88 Eclectic Cyborg
I appreciate the sentiment, but most of my grandmothers friends are either living locally year round or deceased.
Give her the ticket anyway. All Canadians want to winter in PCB—ALL of them.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:44:37pm |
re: #87 klys
I sometimes fall back on either homemade things or something that is an experience that they can have instead of a thing. Extra bonus points if it is an experience they can share with you, although I know that’s not always possible.
A couple of years ago I did a fictional series of letters designed to look like I had written them for her since childhood, so they started with scribbles and crayon drawings for when I was a little kid, to pencil and pen written when I was a bit older, then on to crude word processed letters (on dot matrix paper) and eventually to well written word processed letters. She loved it.
I think may I make a her a book of poetry this year, she loves those.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:44:44pm |
My mom, who will be 90 in January, is very sharp but she can’t remember all the names of her great-grandkids.
Heck it’s hard for ME to remember them all! :)
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:45:44pm |
Soviet Space Shuttle found abandoned in Kazakhstan pic.twitter.com/AUNREB6Yll— Abandoned (@AbandonedPics) November 20, 2013
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:46:33pm |
re: #87 klys
I sometimes fall back on either homemade things or something that is an experience that they can have instead of a thing. Extra bonus points if it is an experience they can share with you, although I know that’s not always possible.
My dad is 82. I just get him stuff I will appreciate when he kicks the bucket.
(I’m joking, I’m joking)
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:46:35pm |
Scottish Parliament just held its first vote on the #equalmarriage bill and it's an overwhelming majority! #ItsTime pic.twitter.com/3U8vfw8beI
— Tom French (@TomfromBrighton) November 20, 2013
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:46:36pm |
re: #92 Learned Pie Of Zion
My mom, who will be 90 in January, is very sharp but she can’t remember all the names of her great-grandkids.
Heck it’s hard for ME to remember them all! :)
lol my grandmother only has two grandsons, myself and my brother.
She still gets us mixed up all the time when addressing us.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:47:13pm |
re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg
A couple of years ago I did a fictional series of letters designed to look like I had written them for her since childhood, so they started with scribbles and drawings for when I was a little kid, to pencil and pen written when I was a bit older, then on to crude word processed letters (on dot matrix paper) and eventually to well written word processed letters. She loved it.
I think may I make a her a book of poetry this year, she loves those.
There’s some really nice ways you can do things like that too - obviously you can just make it by hand, but it’s fairly easy to have a custom printed book done these days, and you could include photos and whatnot.
My mom is doing photobooks for her parents of the three grandkids she contributed.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:48:01pm |
something for WW and the other lizards who like bikes.
on my way to steal ur girl pic.twitter.com/im4ys7c1g6
— Baby Animals (@BBAnimals) November 20, 2013
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:48:07pm |
re: #93 Charles Johnson
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If that building and contents were here they’d be made into condos damned quick.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:48:29pm |
She wants his head on a pike and his spot on MSNBC.
EXCLUSIVE: Sarah Palin cancels Matt Lauer interview to protest NBC's lack of action on Martin Bashir's slimy comments http://t.co/07OlPe1l8c— HowardKurtz (@HowardKurtz) November 20, 2013
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Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:49:14pm |
re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth
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Bogus, false flag.
A real poster would read “Scotland’s Feckn’ Equal Marriage Majority”.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:50:39pm |
re: #95 Backwoods_Sleuth
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So it’s great to be a Scotsman.
Only if you live in Scotland. : )
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Flying Squirrel Girl Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:51:31pm |
re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg
My smart-ass parents gave my sister and me rhyming names (and we are not twins) so EVERYONE mixes us up, from young to old.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:51:42pm |
re: #102 Justanotherhuman
So it’s great to be a Scotsman.
Only if you live in Scotland. : )
Don’t you mean a TRUE Scotsman?
…I’ll show myself out…
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:52:14pm |
re: #104 Flying Squirrel Girl
My smart-ass parents gave my sister and me rhyming names (and we are not twins) so EVERYONE mixes us up, from young to old.
Rhyming names? Oh that must have sucked in middle school.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:52:29pm |
re: #104 Flying Squirrel Girl
My smart-ass parents gave my sister and me rhyming names (and we are not twins) so EVERYONE mixes us up, from young to old.
I apparently look enough alike at a quick glance to the baby that there are still times when my mother gets it wrong.
I’m older by almost 8 years.
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Flying Squirrel Girl Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:54:25pm |
re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg
It still sucks! Since we are both middle aged now, when we are together and meeting people for the first time, one will say, “Hi, I’m ________,” and the other will finish with, “And I’m her sister.” It’s just easier that way.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:54:43pm |
re: #106 Eclectic Cyborg
Rhyming names? Oh that must have sucked in middle school.
I went to high school with a pair of identical twins named Melody and Lyric. They dressed alike and wore their long hair in the same style.
Then one day Lyric came to school with short hair.
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Eclectic Cyborg Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:54:58pm |
Sweet. Got everyone on my Xmas list covered for a grand total of $80 thanks to Amazon and a bit of ingenuity.
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:55:03pm |
re: #107 klys
I apparently look enough alike at a quick glance to the baby that there are still times when my mother gets it wrong.
I’m older by almost 8 years.
I have 4 siblings. None of our names rhyme. My mother usually had to go through the whole list to reach the right name.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:55:24pm |
re: #111 b_sharp
I have 4 siblings. None of our names rhyme. My mother usually had to go through the whole list to reach the right name.
We all respond to George.
(Three girls.)
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:55:37pm |
re: #105 Eclectic Cyborg
Don’t you mean a TRUE Scotsman?
…I’ll show myself out…
Oh yeah, the fake ones here turn against you in a heartbeat if you don’t toe their line.
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b_sharp Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:55:57pm |
re: #109 Learned Pie Of Zion
I went to high school with a pair of identical twins named Melody and Lyric. They dressed alike and wore their long hair in the same style.
Then one day Lyric came to school with short hair.
And thereafter was named Coda.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:56:28pm |
re: #98 Backwoods_Sleuth
something for WW and the other lizards who like bikes.
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Faved!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 12:57:39pm |
Interesting. No Google ads are displaying on the individual page for the previous post. They may be disabling ads on pages that reference that subject. A bit ironic that the article is about Google themselves.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:01:06pm |
re: #117 Charles Johnson
Interesting. No Google ads are displaying on the individual page for the previous post. They may be disabling ads on pages that reference that subject. A bit ironic that the article is about Google themselves.
You mean, they are censoring themselves over an issue of censoring themselves? Isn’t that unconstitutional?
/
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:02:53pm |
re: #100 Justanotherhuman
She wants his head on a pike and his spot on MSNBC.
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lol at Kurtz reduced to peddling FoxNews action items out in the open now.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:03:59pm |
re: #100 Justanotherhuman
She wants his head on a pike and his spot on MSNBC.
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So much for that “thick skin” and letting stuff just “roll off her back” that she keeps bragging about.
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:04:48pm |
re: #110 Eclectic Cyborg
Sweet. Got everyone on my Xmas list covered for a grand total of $80 thanks to Amazon and a bit of ingenuity.
Please tell us you didn’t just buy a whole lot of garden gnomes to give to all your family.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:04:52pm |
French police take Paris gun suspect into custody
“He was taken into custody at about 18:00 GMT from a vehicle in a car park in Bois-Colombes, north-west of Paris.
“The suspect threatened a TV station last Friday, and attacked a newspaper office and a bank HQ on Monday.
“The man was apprehended from a stationary car in an underground car park following a tip-off from a member of the public.”
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:07:10pm |
re: #91 Eclectic Cyborg
A couple of years ago I did a fictional series of letters designed to look like I had written them for her since childhood, so they started with scribbles and crayon drawings for when I was a little kid, to pencil and pen written when I was a bit older, then on to crude word processed letters (on dot matrix paper) and eventually to well written word processed letters. She loved it.
I think may I make a her a book of poetry this year, she loves those.
My daughter gave me the Mother’s Day present to end all Mother’s Day presents a few years ago-all the sweeter because we don’t usually do more than wishing the relevant person a happy whatever it is day for things like that. She wrote me a letter telling me what a great Mom I had been, with specific examples. I take it out and re-read it every so often. It makes me happy.
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:08:01pm |
re: #120 Backwoods_Sleuth
So much for that “thick skin” and letting stuff just “roll off her back” that she keeps bragging about.
Sarah has to be in a fight with someone, that’s part of her shtick
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Bulworth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:08:42pm |
re: #100 Justanotherhuman
And Matt Mauer Brauer was going to interview the former half governor because why?
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Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:09:17pm |
re: #124 b.d.
Sarah has to be in a fight with someone, that’s part of her shtick
Nothing like making it easy for her. Idiots.
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:09:40pm |
DId Geenwald ever get around to retracting his error filled Norway story?
Any updates? Clarifications?
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:10:20pm |
re: #125 Bulworth
And Matt Mauer Brauer was going to interview the former half governor because why?
She’s got a book to sell, dammit!
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:10:26pm |
re: #125 Bulworth
And Matt Mauer Brauer was going to interview the former half governor because why?
I wonder if this was supposed to be the interview where she invited him to her house in Alaska?
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Bulworth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:10:34pm |
If I was running a TV station I would make it my network’s sole business purpose in life to not interview Palin.
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:11:12pm |
re: #125 Bulworth
And Matt Mauer Brauer was going to interview the former half governor because why?
hmmmmm, we’ll have to get back to you on that one.
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:13:02pm |
re: #128 makeitstop
She’s got a book to sell, dammit!
Not interviewing Palin would be part of the War on Christmas?
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Bulworth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:13:11pm |
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:13:23pm |
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:14:06pm |
re: #130 Bulworth
If I was running a TV station I would make it my network’s sole business purpose in life to not interview Palin.
I’d schedule an interview for her. I’d also run a contest giving viewers a chance to be the one to conduct the interview, based on their 1000 word essay as to why they should be given the chance.
Only the most sarcastic, witty and vicious would make it into the top 10.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:14:21pm |
re: #129 Backwoods_Sleuth
I wonder if this was supposed to be the interview where she invited him to her house in Alaska?
Yep, probably this the one she canceled:
Matt Lauer to spend holiday time with Sarah Palin
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Bulworth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:14:36pm |
re: #132 b.d.
It’s a win-win for her. Not giving her an interview she won’t grant is absolute PRUFE of the global liberal Islamicist war on Christmas. /
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:15:26pm |
re: #130 Bulworth
If I was running a TV station I would make it my network’s sole business purpose in life to not interview Palin.
I would interview her but sandwich the interview between airings of Southpark christmas shows.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:15:29pm |
re: #127 b.d.
DId Geenwald ever get around to retracting his error filled Norway story?
Any updates? Clarifications?
Real JournalismTM means never having to say you’re sorry.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:15:59pm |
re: #138 b.d.
I would interview her but sandwich the interview between airings of Southpark christmas shows.
Hail Satan!
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:16:16pm |
Google ads are back on the previous post. Odd.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:17:49pm |
hey VB!
Ashton Kutcher Gets in Heated Twitter War with Walmart: Profits over Poverty http://t.co/U7RGbWghWE #BoycottWalmart
— Kennett Area Dems (@KennettDems) November 20, 2013
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makeitstop Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:17:52pm |
re: #141 Charles Johnson
Google ads are back on the previous post. Odd.
Maybe they had a human check it and realized what the content really was?
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:19:00pm |
re: #93 Charles Johnson
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Eh? When was this photo taken I wonder?
“On 12 May 2002,[3] a hangar housing Buran collapsed during a massive storm in Kazakhstan, as a result of poor maintenance. The collapse killed eight workers and destroyed the craft as well as a mock-up of an Energia carrier rocket. [14][15][16]”
The Soviets were baffled by our shuttle program - they knew it made no economic sense so they knew (correctly) that it had to be about military missions, especially the huge spy sats we use.
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RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:19:20pm |
re: #93 Charles Johnson
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I wonder if that is one of the prototype shuttles that the Soviet Union built - the most likely candidate being ‘Ptichka’ (which was almost completely assembled).
OK-1K2 Ptichka (95-97% complete)
The reason I ask is because the actual shuttle that flew one (unmanned) mission into space - ‘Buran’ - was destroyed in 2002 when the hangar it was in collapsed during a major snowstorm.
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Decatur Deb Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:19:41pm |
re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth
hey VB!
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Who is Ashton Kutcher, and why does he think he’s Robert Reich?
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Bulworth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:19:47pm |
Once again, the DOW has failed to close above 16,000. How much of this failure should we have to take? That Larry Klayman dude should demand PBO come out of the WH with his hands up for destroying the free market capitalist system. //
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:20:54pm |
re: #142 Backwoods_Sleuth
hey VB!
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That’s a surprise. I thought Ashton was a wingnut.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:20:55pm |
in a meeting at work discussing problems with swapping out sim cards, kept on hearing the phrase “original sim”
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:22:01pm |
re: #148 Learned Pie Of Zion
That’s a surprise. I thought Ashton was a wingnut.
He’s not. The wingnuts took something he said and made a TP meme about it (Palin did the same thing and used it to raise money for her PAC).
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:24:57pm |
Dudebros have a lot in common with libertarians, right? The free market wins all and whatnot?
So why is the argument going like this:
1. Google does something they don’t like to search results.
2. THE WORLD IS ENDING THE INTERNET IS RUINED IT SHOULD BE PRESENTING EVERYTHING NEUTRALLY (this is not fucking Wikipedia, really)
3. Google provides a public service and therefore should not be censoring their results!
4. ???
What response do they want: government regulation of Google? I though that libertarians think government is evil. Turning Google into a publicly run service? Isn’t that socialism?
I’m so confused.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:25:36pm |
re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s not. The wingnuts took something he said and made a TP meme about it (Palin did the same thing and used it to raise money for her PAC).
since it’s part of wingnut ideology that ‘liberals’ are communists, anti-religion, and in favor of ‘the state’ controlling all aspects of existence, any normal statement can be taken as evidence that the person is a ‘conservative’
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:25:43pm |
re: #150 Backwoods_Sleuth
He’s not. The wingnuts took something he said and made a TP meme about it (Palin did the same thing and used it to raise money for her PAC).
Extreme right plastered that everywhere and made it look like Ashton was one of them.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:25:53pm |
re: #151 klys
It all makes sense when you realize Libertarians are nut jobs.
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:28:06pm |
re: #154 Kragar
It all makes sense when you realize Libertarians are nut jobs.
Or equally often, just far lazier intellectually than they realize.
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:29:05pm |
re: #153 Backwoods_Sleuth
Extreme right plastered that everywhere and made it look like Ashton was one of them.
They miss the part where he said “I never quit my job until I had my next job.”
This kind of goes against the wingnut meme HURR HURR NOBODY IS FORCED TO WORK AT WALMART THEY CAN QUIT WHENEVER THEY WANT HURR HURR
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:29:54pm |
re: #156 Learned Pie Of Zion
They miss the part where he said “I never quit my job until I had my next job.”
This kind of goes against the wingnut meme HURR HURR NOBODY IS FORCED TO WORK AT WALMART THEY CAN QUIT WHENEVER THEY WANT HURR HURR
They tend to miss a lot of things…
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:30:12pm |
hey klys!!!
Our Behind the Myths Tour starts TODAY in TX & is coming to a city near you! http://t.co/EFR5IARQf8 pic.twitter.com/5Wfo0qS9dE
— MythBusters Official (@MythBusters) November 20, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:30:32pm |
Bob Barr says Americans throughout history will thank Larry Klayman for his poorly-attended event http://t.co/lPhVYIw9Ff— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) November 20, 2013
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RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:30:33pm |
re: #144 William Barnett-Lewis
The Soviets were baffled by our shuttle program - they knew it made no economic sense so they knew (correctly) that it had to be about military missions, especially the huge spy sats we use.
That’s not entirely accurate.
Even though there were space shuttle flights with military missions/cargo (two of the most well known being STS-51-C, and STS-36), there were only a total of eleven such flights - and the last military launch occurred in December, 1992 - while the shuttle continued launching missions for another nineteen years.
The US military as a rule uses Titan III class launch vehicles for the bulk of their satellites.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:31:04pm |
re: #158 Backwoods_Sleuth
hey klys!!!
[Embedded content]
I encourage any Lizards who even halfway like the show to go see it. It is awesome! (I saw during their first run last year.)
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:31:26pm |
re: #151 klys
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:33:19pm |
re: #151 klys
Dudebros have a lot in common with libertarians, right?
In Venn terms, I think the blue circle of Libertarians and the red circle of dudebros make a nice, round purple circle.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:34:12pm |
This one about working
looks to me like you have posted a link to the tracking pixel
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:34:46pm |
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:35:32pm |
So our Snorty Little Congressman from FL got his sentence today….
If this was me, I don’t think I would have got this as my punishment
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:37:35pm |
re: #160 RadicalModerate
That’s not entirely accurate.
Even though there were space shuttle flights with military missions/cargo (two of the most well known being STS-51-C, and STS-36), there were only a total of eleven such flights - and the last military launch occurred in December, 1992 - while the shuttle continued launching missions for another nineteen years.The US military as a rule uses Titan III class launch vehicles for the bulk of their satellites.
Well, no space-based SDI system was ever actually put into service. Servicing and returning such satellites was envisioned by the Reagan administration as a major use of STS.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:40:00pm |
re: #168 A Mom Anon
So our Snorty Little Congressman from FL got his sentence today….
If this was me, I don’t think I would have got this as my punishment
Bullshit.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:40:21pm |
re: #166 dog philosopher
This one about working
looks to me like you have posted a link to the tracking pixel
ok, scratch that, reconnected outside of the network
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:41:54pm |
re: #171 dog philosopher
ok, scratch that, reconnected outside of the network
whew! I was trying to figger out what was wrong.
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leftynyc Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:43:23pm |
re: #124 b.d.
Sarah has to be in a fight with someone, that’s part of her shtick
She’s a professional victim and frankly her whining about this is getting old. Bashir gave the most heartfelt apology I’ve ever witnessed on tv.
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:44:07pm |
re: #162 Varek Raith
The problem with libertarianism is that there is no bright line as to where necessary-even-to-a-libertarian ends and evil socialism starts. Everyone interprets it differently and then jumps through hoops to explain why it is really obvious. This ought to be a clue that that things aren’t all that easy when you set up a human society-there is no one size fits all “right” answer.
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RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:44:33pm |
re: #169 erik_t
Well, no space-based SDI system was ever actually put into service. Servicing and returning such satellites was envisioned by the Reagan administration as a major use of STS.
This is true - but pretty much every engineer employed by NASA, a large percentage of the military, and their associated contractors (the ones who were supposed to build the things) stated flat out that what the Reagan administration wanted simply could not be built with the technology available to them (and it still applies today, even with the major advances done) because the physics in an orbital environment simply would not allow for it. Even the small-scale prototypes that were built and tested on Earth had a rather spectacular failure rate.
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erik_t Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:46:08pm |
re: #175 RadicalModerate
I didn’t mean to talk specifically to the challenges of SDI, merely that it was a major envisioned shuttle military role. That it didn’t end up happening (or, indeed, if it couldn’t end up happening) doesn’t mean that STS wasn’t designed with a substantial military role in mind.
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:46:34pm |
re: #175 RadicalModerate
This is true - but pretty much every engineer employed by NASA, a large percentage of the military, and their associated contractors (the ones who were supposed to build the things) stated flat out that what the Reagan administration wanted simply could not be built with the technology available to them (and it still applies today, even with the major advances done) because the physics in an orbital environment simply would not allow for it. Even the small-scale prototypes that were built and tested on Earth had a rather spectacular failure rate.
And piled on top of that the military countermeasures to what SDI was supposed to do were relatively cheap and easy to implement; e.g. decoys, chaff, etc. that would massively complicate the targeting solutions in the relatively short engagement time the system would have.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:47:40pm |
re: #174 calochortus
The problem with libertarianism is that there is no bright line as to where necessary-even-to-a-libertarian ends and evil socialism starts. Everyone interprets it differently and then jumps through hoops to explain why it is really obvious. This ought to be a clue that that things aren’t all that easy when you set up a human society-there is no one size fits all “right” answer.
The problem with libertarianism is for it to “work”, everyone has to have all the possible information about a subject at hand to make their decisions and trust that everyone else does as well.
How often does that happen?
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:49:37pm |
re: #179 Kragar
The problem with libertarianism is for it to “work”, everyone has to have all the possible information about a subject at hand to make their decisions and trust that everyone else does as well.
How often does that happen?
The only thing I “trust” about people in general is that they’re stupid and cannot be trusted to make decisions consistent with their own long-term self-interest.
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:50:05pm |
re: #179 Kragar
The problem with libertarianism is for it to “work”, everyone has to have all the possible information about a subject at hand to make their decisions and trust that everyone else does as well.
How often does that happen?
Well, there’s that as well.
And we know for a fact that people don’t make economic decisions effectively. Even when they have a bunch of information.
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:50:50pm |
re: #180 klys
Our minds are beautifully designed for life 10,000 or so years ago.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:51:39pm |
re: #180 klys
The only thing I “trust” about people in general is that they’re stupid and cannot be trusted to make decisions consistent with their own long-term self-interest.
“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:52:00pm |
re: #180 klys
The only thing I “trust” about people in general is that they’re stupid and cannot be trusted to make decisions consistent with their own long-term self-interest.
“So…we’re gonna let the asteroid hit?”
“Yep”
“…”
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:54:57pm |
re: #183 Kragar
“A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.”
Isn’t from Asimovs Foundation series?
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:54:58pm |
re: #182 calochortus
Our minds are beautifully designed for life 10,000 or so years ago.
Our minds can actually only handle social interactions with about 100 people. After that, everyone else is just a face in the crowd.
Dunbar’s number is a suggested cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships. These are relationships in which an individual knows who each person is and how each person relates to every other person.[1][2][3][4][5][6] This number was first proposed by British anthropologist Robin Dunbar, who found a correlation between primate brain size and average social group size. By using the average human brain size and extrapolating from the results of primates, he proposed that humans can only comfortably maintain 150 stable relationships.[7] Proponents assert that numbers larger than this generally require more restrictive rules, laws, and enforced norms to maintain a stable, cohesive group. It has been proposed to lie between 100 and 230, with a commonly used value of 150.[8][9] Dunbar’s number states the number of people one knows and keeps social contact with, and it does not include the number of people known personally with a ceased social relationship, nor people just generally known with a lack of persistent social relationship, a number which might be much higher and likely depends on long-term memory size.
Dunbar theorized that “this limit is a direct function of relative neocortex size, and that this in turn limits group size … the limit imposed by neocortical processing capacity is simply on the number of individuals with whom a stable inter-personal relationship can be maintained.” On the periphery, the number also includes past colleagues, such as high school friends, with whom a person would want to reacquaint themself if they met again.[10]
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:55:08pm |
We're dismantling the CDF detector piece by piece. Here's a look at the process. pic.twitter.com/SOIk33eqEk— Fermilab Today (@FermilabToday) November 20, 2013
@FermilabToday so we should look for these parts on Craislist?
— John (@OHFScratch) November 20, 2013
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:55:29pm |
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:55:48pm |
re: #179 Kragar
So called “libertarianism” fails for a more fundamental reason - it is just an intellectual fig-leaf for self-centeredness.
We are primates, we live in groups, complete with variance in our roles and abilities. One we fail to think of us as a “we” and only think of oneself then a very big point of being human is missed.
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gwangung Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:56:10pm |
re: #179 Kragar
The problem with libertarianism is for it to “work”, everyone has to have all the possible information about a subject at hand to make their decisions and trust that everyone else does as well.
Also trust that no one is trying to confuse others with misinformation or withholding information.
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b.d. Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:56:34pm |
Emergency landingABC News reports JetBlue Flight 1266 made an emergency landing in Orlando after an emergency slide deploys inside the cabin during the flight. Details to follow
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RadicalModerate Wed, Nov 20, 2013 1:56:41pm |
re: #179 Kragar
The problem with libertarianism is for it to “work”, everyone has to have all the possible information about a subject at hand to make their decisions and trust that everyone else does as well.
How often does that happen?
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:00:47pm |
re: #192 RadicalModerate
For Libertarianism To Work, People Have To Know All The Things All The Time
I think I’m a fairly intelligent person who has performed well on standardized tests and whatnot. But when I walk into a coffee shop and purchase a baked good, I have zero ability to know how much damage it’s doing to me on a molecular level just by looking at it. I can’t tell if it’s made with butter, olive oil, or a trans fat. I do not have X-ray vision or psychic powers. I am not insulted if you point this out. On the contrary, I’m grateful to live in a world where basic survival doesn’t require me to know all the things all the time. But libertarian paradise is not only one where trans fats aren’t banned, but also one where the baker is allowed to withhold that information from me. Basically, to not be “stupid” by the libertarian estimation, you really do need to have psychic powers.
Indeed, the childish/stupid insistence that the only way you’re being respected is if we pretend you know all the things all the time is the governing philosophy of libertarianism. Which, ironically, is why I have no fucking respect for them at all. It’s idiotic to ignore the fact that we live in a complex world where the things that need to be known are so numerous that no one person can hold them in their heads at all time. We divide people up and give them ownership of certain forms of knowledge and allow each other to be the authorities for it. For example, I can rattle off all sorts of shit about reproductive health off the top of my head, but I couldn’t remember what it was exactly that made trans fat so bad. So I googled it. But even that is really too big an ask if someone is trying to do something as simple as make a $2 purchase of a donut at an airport kiosk. It really is okay not to know everything about every kind of bad thing you could eat. That’s why we, as the taxpayers, hire someone to do that job for us. And then a bunch of whining children who have bizarre ideas about respect complain about it. Jesus.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:02:04pm |
re: #160 RadicalModerate
That’s not entirely accurate.
Even though there were space shuttle flights with military missions/cargo (two of the most well known being STS-51-C, and STS-36), there were only a total of eleven such flights - and the last military launch occurred in December, 1992 - while the shuttle continued launching missions for another nineteen years.The US military as a rule uses Titan III class launch vehicles for the bulk of their satellites.
When the design was being finalized it was made much bigger than was economically viable at the numbers being quoted for it’s costs. The reason for the large size was due to the size of the military satellites. They did not, in the end, use it as much as originally planned (due to the Challenger loss shifting the USAF loads to Titan III whenever possible) which did cause the Shuttle to bleed money when it wasn’t costing real blood. :(
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:02:41pm |
Although others may have tried it…
Radel is first member of Congress convicted for cocaine
“The only other member of Congress to be arrested and convicted on a drug charge was Rep. Frederick Richmond (D) of New York, who, 30 years ago, was convicted for marijuana use. Richmond, who also served as deputy finance chairman for the Democratic National Committee, in 1982 also pleaded guilty to a felony charge of evading taxes and a misdemeanor regarding a government contract.
“There were two House staffers involved in the 1983 congressional page scandal, who did plead guilty to two federal misdemeanors. Robert Yesh, who, in 1983, was the Majority Assistant Cloakroom manager, and James Beattie, who was with the Doorkeeper’s Office, were accused of cocaine and marijuana use — Yesh, specifically with pages.
“There were several other cocaine allegations that the Ethics Committee investigated surrounding the page scandal, including accusations that two members — Reps. Charles Wilson (D) of Texas and Ronald Dellums (D) of California — had used cocaine and marijuana. But the committee found that those charges were not substantiated.”
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:05:39pm |
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ObserverArt Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:06:24pm |
Ughh. Just got back from a clients repair shop where the dudes working there had Rush on. All I heard was Obama this and Obama that about healthcare. I asked the one guy if he ever had to buy individual insurance and he said he did once. I then asked if he had noticed that it always went up and many times you got less coverage. He said, yeah, but not like this!
That is all I needed to hear. I figured no reason to go further, I was up against Rush and all those Rush facts. Days and months and years of Rush facts. You can’t fight that…and that it sad.
Sad. There is no way it can be good to hear that rot all day long. And I do believe it does go on all day long there, as every time I’ve been in the repair shop, they have it on.
I think I need to shower, but I did before I went out there. I don’t think I could get this off me if I tried anyway.
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:06:48pm |
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:07:53pm |
re: #198 ObserverArt
Ughh. Just got back from a clients repair shop where the dudes working there had Rush on. All I heard was Obama this and Obama that about healthcare. I asked the one guy if he ever had to buy individual insurance and he said he did once. I then asked if he had noticed that it always went up and many times you got less coverage. He said, yeah, but not like this!
That is all I needed to hear. I figured no reason to go further, I was up against Rush and all those Rush facts. Days and months and years of Rush facts. You can’t fight that…and that it sad.
Sad. There is no way it can be good to hear that rot all day long. And I do believe it does go on all day long there, as every time I’ve been in the repair shop, they have it on.
I think I need to shower, but I did before I went out there. I don’t think I could get this off me if I tried anyway.
Confirmation bias is so hard to work against.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:10:25pm |
re: #151 klys
Dudebros have a lot in common with libertarians, right? The free market wins all and whatnot?
So why is the argument going like this:
1. Google does something they don’t like to search results.
2. THE WORLD IS ENDING THE INTERNET IS RUINED IT SHOULD BE PRESENTING EVERYTHING NEUTRALLY (this is not fucking Wikipedia, really)
3. Google provides a public service and therefore should not be censoring their results!
4. ???What response do they want: government regulation of Google? I though that libertarians think government is evil. Turning Google into a publicly run service? Isn’t that socialism?
I’m so confused.
I was having pretty much the same series of thoughts earlier: Free market! No government regulation! Information wants to be free! We want Google to be bound by the rules we dictate, and if they won’t do it voluntarily, then the… um… government*cough*or someone should intervene… and… um… force them to… uhhh…
When they talk about absolutes they sound stupid, like that woman in Delaware who ran for Congress, Christine Whatever-her-name-was saying she believed in telling the truth all the time, no matter what—so basically if the Nazis had come looking for Anne Frank and she knew her whereabouts, then she’d have to rat her out (unless God saved her).
O’Donnell—that was her name: Christine O’Donnell on human mice, lying to Nazis, and the women of Middle Earth When people talk about absolutes they sound stupid like her.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:13:09pm |
If Thomas Aquinas were alive today, he would look at Conservative Evangelicals, tell them to fuck right off, and then get a show with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:20:14pm |
re: #201 CuriousLurker
Christine O’Donnell on human mice
what i wanna know is if mice can have fully functioning human brains, why can’t i?
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:21:02pm |
re: #203 dog philosopher
what i wanna know is if mice can have fully functioning human brains, why can’t i?
There is no mapping reduction from Christine O’Donnell to mice brains.
I think.
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:21:29pm |
re: #202 Kragar
If Thomas Aquinas were alive today, he would look at Conservative Evangelicals, tell them to fuck right off, and then get a show with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
And the Evangelicals would respond by declaring him not to be a “true Christian.”
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:23:02pm |
pic.twitter.com/BmnpnVHBka— Animales Monos (@SuperBonitos) November 18, 2013
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:23:38pm |
There is water from the sky loud enough that I can hear it on the roof.
Hold me, I’m scared.
//
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:24:44pm |
re: #207 klys
There is water from the sky loud enough that I can hear it on the roof.
Hold me, I’m scared.
//
STAY ALIVE! NO MATTER WHAT OCCURS, I WILL FIND YOU!
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:25:21pm |
re: #208 Kragar
STAY ALIVE! NO MATTER WHAT OCCURS, I WILL FIND YOU!
This may be the best description of CA weather I have ever read:
“Heavy Rain Mist”
Thank you, Weather Underground.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:25:26pm |
The Obama's and Clinton's at JFK eternal flame at Arlington Cemetery today pic.twitter.com/5AKkeesZTu— petesouza (@petesouza) November 20, 2013
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:25:54pm |
re: #201 CuriousLurker
I was having pretty much the same series of thoughts earlier: Free market! No government regulation! Information wants to be free! We want Google to be bound by the rules we dictate, and if they won’t do it voluntarily, then the… um… government*cough*or someone should intervene… and… um… force them to… uhhh…
When they talk about absolutes they sound stupid, like that woman in Delaware who ran for Congress, Christine Whatever-her-name-was saying she believed in telling the truth all the time, no matter what—so basically if the Nazis had come looking for Anne Frank and she knew her whereabouts, then she’d have to rat her out (unless God saved her).
O’Donnell—that was her name: Christine O’Donnell on human mice, lying to Nazis, and the women of Middle Earth When people talk about absolutes they sound stupid like her.
Yeah, it’s always a good source of amusement, hearing libertarians try to rationalize keeping government out of everything until they actually acknowledge that government serves a useful purpose. One of their usual favorites is to make a bunch of noise about “government only to protect rights,” but sometimes you can’t protect everybody’s rights without imposing limits. And they absolutely hate the idea of government setting limits, but at the same time will acknowledge that not everybody will personally agree to the same limits.
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Varek Raith Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:26:12pm |
re: #209 klys
This may be the best description of CA weather I have ever read:
“Heavy Rain Mist”
Thank you, Weather Underground.
The Onion weather;
33, Two inches of snow followed by three inches of rock salt
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:27:13pm |
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:28:05pm |
re: #209 klys
This may be the best description of CA weather I have ever read:
“Heavy Rain Mist”
Thank you, Weather Underground.
I remember coastal NC weather.
Look out the office window, maybe a few clouds.
Leave the office to walk across the parking lot, torrential down pour.
Get in the car and turn it on, sunny and clear.
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Bubblehead II Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:30:15pm |
re: #213 wrenchwench
He’s so egotistical, he laid a big ‘O’ at the tomb.
He was a Catholic! He should have used a cross!
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:30:40pm |
re: #214 Kragar
I remember coastal NC weather.
Look out the office window, maybe a few clouds.
Leave the office to walk across the parking lot, torrential down pour.
Get in the car and turn it on, sunny and clear.
One thing I didn’t properly realize before moving out here was that “rain” in CA really means a light misty drizzle that will probably blow over in ~15 minutes. At least the majority of the time.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:34:47pm |
re: #216 klys
One thing I didn’t properly realize before moving out here was that “rain” in CA really means a light misty drizzle that will probably blow over in ~15 minutes. At least the majority of the time.
I did a little bicycle tour in Oregon that started out traversing the Coast Range. Every little valley was dry, and every little hilltop was shrouded in mist. Then we arrived at the town of Mist. We stopped for lunch. As we ate, twice people came in and were asked, ‘What’s the weather doing out there?’ And the answer both times was, ‘It’s kind of like a mist.’ We were starting to get weirded out.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:35:30pm |
attn conservatives, if youre going to attack obama on benghazi, SPELL BENGHAZI RIGHT read: http://t.co/qx1XfbI3o9 pic.twitter.com/UnCPMbmEqX
— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 20, 2013
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:36:08pm |
I’m really getting fed up with how Nature has decided to become more like its UK tabloid publications. There screaming headline today:
Americas’ natives have European roots
is very misleading.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:36:19pm |
Abdelhakim Dekhar Identified as Paris Shooting Suspect
“Abdelhakim Dekhar was identified as the Paris shooting suspect on Wednesday.
“BFM-TV, one of the media outlets where a shooting took place recently, identified the shooter, who was taken into custody today.
“Dekhar was previously sentenced to four years in prison in 1998 for complicity in the Rey-Maupin quintiple murder case. Five people were murdered in that case in October 1994 in Paris.”
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:36:42pm |
re: #211 Targetpractice
Yeah, it’s always a good source of amusement, hearing libertarians try to rationalize keeping government out of everything until they actually acknowledge that government serves a useful purpose. One of their usual favorites is to make a bunch of noise about “government only to protect rights,” but sometimes you can’t protect everybody’s rights without imposing limits. And they absolutely hate the idea of government setting limits, but at the same time will acknowledge that not everybody will personally agree to the same limits.
Yeah, that’s the thing—it’s like some kind of magical childhood thinking where everyone is going to agree on the rules and play fair. Shit, even children actually know better. Or rather they very quickly learn that there must be limits, and what we consider good/fair/polite usually involves a significant amount of self-interest: I’m gonna play fair and treat you nice because 15 minutes from now I might find myself in a position where I need you to reciprocate.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:41:02pm |
re: #221 CuriousLurker
Yeah, that’s the thing—it’s like some kind of magical childhood thinking where everyone is going to agree on the rules and play fair. Shit, even children actually know better. Or rather they very quickly learn that there must be limits, and what we consider good/fair/polite usually involves a significant amount of self-interest: I’m gonna play fair and treat you nice because 15 minutes from now I might find myself in a position where I need you to reciprocate.
With libertarians, it’s always tit, never tat.
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AlexRogan Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:42:06pm |
re: #151 klys
Dudebros have a lot in common with libertarians, right? The free market wins all and whatnot?
So why is the argument going like this:
1. Google does something they don’t like to search results.
2. THE WORLD IS ENDING THE INTERNET IS RUINED IT SHOULD BE PRESENTING EVERYTHING NEUTRALLY (this is not fucking Wikipedia, really)
3. Google provides a public service and therefore should not be censoring their results!
4. ???What response do they want: government regulation of Google? I though that libertarians think government is evil. Turning Google into a publicly run service? Isn’t that socialism?
I’m so confused.
re: #201 CuriousLurker
I was having pretty much the same series of thoughts earlier: Free market! No government regulation! Information wants to be free! We want Google to be bound by the rules we dictate, and if they won’t do it voluntarily, then the… um… government*cough*or someone should intervene… and… um… force them to… uhhh…
When they talk about absolutes they sound stupid, like that woman in Delaware who ran for Congress, Christine Whatever-her-name-was saying she believed in telling the truth all the time, no matter what—so basically if the Nazis had come looking for Anne Frank and she knew her whereabouts, then she’d have to rat her out (unless God saved her).
O’Donnell—that was her name: Christine O’Donnell on human mice, lying to Nazis, and the women of Middle Earth When people talk about absolutes they sound stupid like her.
Speaking of Wikipedia, dudebros, and free markets:
Ars Technica: Wikipedia wants PR firm to stop paid editing services, hints at lawsuit
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:42:54pm |
re: #221 CuriousLurker
Yeah, that’s the thing—it’s like some kind of magical childhood thinking where everyone is going to agree on the rules and play fair. Shit, even children actually know better. Or rather they very quickly learn that there must be limits, and what we consider good/fair/polite usually involves a significant amount of self-interest: I’m gonna play fair and treat you nice because 15 minutes from now I might find myself in a position where I need you to reciprocate.
Which, I might add, works fine on the playground for the 30 minutes the kids are out there interacting, but when you’re talking about the functioning of an entire country of 316 million it’s a whole other story.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:44:19pm |
re: #223 AlexRogan
Speaking of Wikipedia, dudebros, and free markets:
Ars Technica: Wikipedia wants PR firm to stop paid editing services, hints at lawsuit
Wikipedia is a magical thinking place all special on its own.
Like, seriously.
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:44:32pm |
re: #223 AlexRogan
We live in a sea of manipulation, the exaltation of Madison Avenue as the central purpose of being.
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Backwoods_Sleuth Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:45:45pm |
I have no words…
Levi Null, 13, of Melcher-Dallas is afraid to go to school after some students posted an online video of his involuntary movements caused by Asperger’s Syndrome.
Levi’s mother says it was done to humiliate and embarrass him.
The father of the teen who posted the most recent video admits it was wrong, but says Levi brings most of the bullying on himself.
“Yes he does,” says Levi Weatherly, the father of the teen accused of posting the video. “I would say three-fourths of this stuff he brings on himself and and probably a fourth of it is bullying that shouldn’t be going on.”
That seems to be the belief of a lot of people in Melcher-Dallas.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:46:12pm |
re: #219 freetoken
I’m really getting fed up with how Nature has decided to become more like its UK tabloid publications. There screaming headline today:
Americas’ natives have European roots
is very misleading.
It’s not really much of a screaming headline and it’s not very misleading. It is nothing like a tabloid headline. For your reference, this is a tabloid headline:
Posh Bash Splashes Plenty of Dosh on Cruel Nosh
Or
Aliens Back our Bid
Or
Porn Again Christian.
How would you rather they express it in a terse headline?
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:46:50pm |
Think on this: A very large portion of our “economy” is centered on altering the electrochemical processes which occur in your brain, which we label your “thoughts”, to conform to someone else’s wishes.
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:48:23pm |
re: #228 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Yes, it is misleading to label the Mal’ta sample “European”.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:49:42pm |
re: #230 freetoken
Yes, it is misleading to label the Mal’ta sample “European”.
I say we default to “SCIENCE, BITCHES!” and leave it at that.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:50:42pm |
re: #230 freetoken
Yes, it is misleading to label the Mal’ta sample “European”.
Then didn’t ‘label’ it as European, they said that the sample showed that it had European roots, which is an incomplete but correct description. Can you perhaps be more verbose about your problem here?
And if you’re striving for accuracy, why are you comparing this extremely-non-tabloid headline to a tabloid headline?
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:52:01pm |
re: #221 CuriousLurker
Yeah, that’s the thing—it’s like some kind of magical childhood thinking where everyone is going to agree on the rules and play fair. Shit, even children actually know better. Or rather they very quickly learn that there must be limits, and what we consider good/fair/polite usually involves a significant amount of self-interest: I’m gonna play fair and treat you nice because 15 minutes from now I might find myself in a position where I need you to reciprocate.
Yep, we can have a great world where everybody gets along and nobody takes advantage of anybody else…except that’s never existed in the history of mankind because it’s in our nature to be greedy bastards. Evolution built in us the instinctual drive to to grab more and more, because the better our living condition the better the odds our offspring will survive. So the idea that you could have peace and harmony in a system where everybody agrees to the same rules and everybody agrees to the same level of freedom is wishful thinking at its finest.
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:52:51pm |
re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth
I have no words…
I recommend, if you want to save your …anything, really, for the love of God, don’t read the comments.
Just don’t.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:54:28pm |
“Alaska” woman in anti-Obamacare ad is actress from Maryland: http://t.co/ZzfzdLvtSd— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) November 20, 2013
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freetoken Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:55:05pm |
re: #232 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Then didn’t ‘label’ it as European, they said that the sample showed that it had European roots, which is an incomplete but correct description. …
Disagree. “European” mean from Europe, literally.
Native Americans do not have “roots” (a poorly defined term) from Europe.
That is why the actual scientific abstract uses the term “Eurasian”, to try to avoid this misdirection:
Upper Palaeolithic Siberian genome reveals dual ancestry of Native Americans
The origins of the First Americans remain contentious. Although Native Americans seem to be genetically most closely related to east Asians1, 2, 3, there is no consensus with regard to which specific Old World populations they are closest to4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Here we sequence the draft genome of an approximately 24,000-year-old individual (MA-1), from Mal’ta in south-central Siberia9, to an average depth of 1×. To our knowledge this is the oldest anatomically modern human genome reported to date. The MA-1 mitochondrial genome belongs to haplogroup U, which has also been found at high frequency among Upper Palaeolithic and Mesolithic European hunter-gatherers10, 11, 12, and the Y chromosome of MA-1 is basal to modern-day western Eurasians and near the root of most Native American lineages5. Similarly, we find autosomal evidence that MA-1 is basal to modern-day western Eurasians and genetically closely related to modern-day Native Americans, with no close affinity to east Asians. This suggests that populations related to contemporary western Eurasians had a more north-easterly distribution 24,000 years ago than commonly thought. Furthermore, we estimate that 14 to 38% of Native American ancestry may originate through gene flow from this ancient population. This is likely to have occurred after the divergence of Native American ancestors from east Asian ancestors, but before the diversification of Native American populations in the New World. Gene flow from the MA-1 lineage into Native American ancestors could explain why several crania from the First Americans have been reported as bearing morphological characteristics that do not resemble those of east Asians2, 13. Sequencing of another south-central Siberian, Afontova Gora-2 dating to approximately 17,000 years ago14, revealed similar autosomal genetic signatures as MA-1, suggesting that the region was continuously occupied by humans throughout the Last Glacial Maximum. Our findings reveal that western Eurasian genetic signatures in modern-day Native Americans derive not only from post-Columbian admixture, as commonly thought, but also from a mixed ancestry of the First Americans.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:55:39pm |
re: #234 klys
I recommend, if you want to save your …anything, really, for the love of God, don’t read the comments.
Just don’t.
There are precious few places where I read the comments. In most places they’re just sewers. Ugh.
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Justanotherhuman Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:58:40pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:58:44pm |
re: #235 Kragar
[Embedded content]
I’m listening to wingnuts now hyperventilating over accusations that the White House is on the verge of bailing out the insurance companies and how this is “proof” that the ACA was one big giveaway to those companies…except that’s kinda what everybody agreed it was at the start and hearing them whine about giving money away to private companies is fucking hilarious when we’re actually paying companies like GE to stay in business.
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:58:47pm |
re: #233 Targetpractice
Yep, we can have a great world where everybody gets along and nobody takes advantage of anybody else…except that’s never existed in the history of mankind because it’s in our nature to be greedy bastards. Evolution built in us the instinctual drive to to grab more and more, because the better our living condition the better the odds our offspring will survive. So the idea that you could have peace and harmony in a system where everybody agrees to the same rules and everybody agrees to the same level of freedom is wishful thinking at its finest.
THIS. There’s always gonna be one (or more) who exceeds the limits.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Wed, Nov 20, 2013 2:58:56pm |
re: #236 freetoken
Disagree. “European” mean from Europe, literally.
Native Americans do not have “roots” (a poorly defined term) from Europe.
And “Eurasia” includes parts of Europe. If they have Western Eurasian ancestry, they have European ancestry.
The headline is somewhat imprecise, leading you to compare it to tabloid headlines. It is hard to take you seriously when you criticize an inaccuracy while committing a much greater one.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:02:18pm |
I just had a sneeze get lost.
I felt it coming, I was all set to go, then it just felt like it decided to go back in my head.
WTF was that?
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dr. klys Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:03:05pm |
re: #243 Kragar
I just had a sneeze get lost.
I felt it coming, I was all set to go, then it just felt like it decided to go back in my head.
WTF was that?
I don’t know, but do you ever sneeze in sets?
I think 95% of my sneezes come in sets of 3. Same for my dad, actually.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:03:41pm |
re: #244 klys
I don’t know, but do you ever sneeze in sets?
I think 95% of my sneezes come in sets of 3. Same for my dad, actually.
Yeah, 3 is pretty much my usual.
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:04:29pm |
re: #240 CuriousLurker
THIS. There’s always gonna be one (or more) who exceeds the limits.
Yep, they want to believe in a system where everybody is equal because they take what they need and give according to their ability…funny, I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that, and it isn’t “libertarian.”
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:05:32pm |
re: #243 Kragar
I just had a sneeze get lost.
I felt it coming, I was all set to go, then it just felt like it decided to go back in my head.
WTF was that?
Oh, I hate it when that happens.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:07:15pm |
re: #247 Dr Lizardo
Oh, I hate it when that happens.
Of course a few days ago, I had a mouthful of wild rice when a sneeze came.
That was fun.
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Dr. Matt Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:07:16pm |
re: #243 Kragar
I just had a sneeze get lost.
Look at a bright light (not the sun) if you’re about to lose one….it works.
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Amory Blaine Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:08:54pm |
Bengazi? Is that a Johnson and Johnson industrial park?
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:09:25pm |
Heh. Minor cat freak-out going on.
They found a thick rubber band and were playing with it. The younger cat started to work out that if he carried it close enough to me and then dropped it I would pick it up and twang it elsewhere to be used. Or upward since I have high ceilings here.
And I just twanged it 12’ up to get stuck on top of a ventilation duct…
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:10:19pm |
re: #250 Amory Blaine
Bengazi? Is that a Johnson and Johnson industrial park?
No, it was a side project between Ben Folds and Fugazi.
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dog philosopher Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:10:29pm |
re: #246 Targetpractice
Yep, they want to believe in a system where everybody is equal because they take what they need and give according to their ability…funny, I’m pretty sure there’s a word for that, and it isn’t “libertarian.”
somebody should write a science fiction story for libertarians about the joy of having to decide which private police force to employ or not being able to get out of town because you forgot to pay your bill for the right to drive on one of the private highway systems
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Mentis Fugit Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:12:03pm |
re: #221 CuriousLurker
Yeah, that’s the thing—it’s like some kind of magical childhood thinking where everyone is going to agree on the rules and play fair. Shit, even children actually know better. Or rather they very quickly learn that there must be limits, and what we consider good/fair/polite usually involves a significant amount of self-interest: I’m gonna play fair and treat you nice because 15 minutes from now I might find myself in a position where I need you to reciprocate.
To be a libertarian is to be incapable of conceiving that you might ever find yourself in that position.
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:12:14pm |
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CuriousLurker Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:13:10pm |
re: #243 Kragar
I just had a sneeze get lost.
I felt it coming, I was all set to go, then it just felt like it decided to go back in my head.
WTF was that?
Just be glad it wasn’t a reverse sneeze attack.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:13:43pm |
re: #253 dog philosopher
somebody should write a science fiction story for libertarians about the joy of having to decide which private police force to employ or not being able to get out of town because you forgot to pay your bill for the right to drive on one of the private highway systems
“We all have electric cars, but you can’t charge yours here because voltage isn’t regulated and your car is built to use 110 and we went with 220. Try across the street, if you can afford the toll.”
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Dr Lizardo Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:16:06pm |
re: #248 Kragar
Of course a few days ago, I had a mouthful of wild rice when a sneeze came.
That was fun.
Heh. Could be peanut butter and crackers.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:16:27pm |
When my beneficent dictatorship begins, my first decree will be that all median strips on surface streets be destroyed and turned into the passing/turn lanes they were meant to be in the first place.
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Skip Intro Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:16:33pm |
re: #243 Kragar
I just had a sneeze get lost.
Was that from you? Damn, my screen and keyboard are now covered in phlegm.
Try harder next time, won’t you?
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Feline Fearless Leader Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:16:49pm |
re: #257 Kragar
“We all have electric cars, but you can’t charge yours here because voltage isn’t regulated and your car is built to use 110 and we went with 220. Try across the street, if you can afford the toll.”
Or imagine the cost of buying a gun since you’d also have to buy bullet molds of the right size as well as cartridge-drawing equipment of the correct specifications as well.
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ObserverArt Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:18:57pm |
re: #234 klys
I recommend, if you want to save your …anything, really, for the love of God, don’t read the comments.
Just don’t.
You know, any more, I see some of the folks here post links and I already get enough out of what they are saying, or their posting small snippets from the article, and it tells me there is no reason to even go to the site anymore, let alone read the comments.
I’m so used to that crap, I can almost write the article and the comments because they all come from the same fact less cold dead hearts of idiots too ignorant of reality. You can just think of some of the crap you’ve already read, mix it up a bit (if you go far enough you get some Palin garbel), add in some color and then pound out the venom. Hell, I don’t think half of them even know what they are typing as they are in too much a rage.
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Skip Intro Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:19:26pm |
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Targetpractice Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:21:26pm |
re: #253 dog philosopher
somebody should write a science fiction story for libertarians about the joy of having to decide which private police force to employ or not being able to get out of town because you forgot to pay your bill for the right to drive on one of the private highway systems
There’s actually a novel out there called The Probability Broach that posits a world where a single world difference in the Constitution caused Albert Gallatin, first Secretary of the Treasury, to take the side of farmers in the Whiskey Rebellion and depose the government (Washington, of course, was executed for treason) and pass a new Articles of Confederation, leading to a libertarian paradise called the North American Confederacy.
I read the graphic novel version a few years back and found it compelling…for all of an hour. Then I did research, learned the book had been written back in 1980, and laughed my ass off.
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:21:38pm |
re: #261 Feline Fearless Leader
Or imagine the cost of buying a gun since you’d also have to buy bullet molds of the right size as well as cartridge-drawing equipment of the correct specifications as well.
“OK, drive down the right side of the rode for about 2 miles, then switch to the left side of the road, that is the Richardson’s land, and you’ll have to deal with the speed bumps he put in. Then you’ll get over to the Jorgensens’ path. They never paved, plus they’ve got it measured in kilometers, so just watch for the third exit.”
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:23:18pm |
re: #227 Backwoods_Sleuth
I wish this was the exception, but from experience it’s not. WTF is wrong with people?
The stats say that between 1 out of 88 to 1 out of 150 children will be born on the autism spectrum. A really good chance that most families will know or have a child with autism at some point. This doesn’t even take into account all the adults out there who are on the spectrum.
My son got suspended once because he was attacked in the bathroom in 8th grade. A kid called him a faggot and a lot of other not so nice names and my son replied with”yeah, well, your mama”. The other kid went nuts. Why? Because he was adopted and didn’t know his mother. So appearently, my kid was supposed to be psychic, but the other kid was allowed to hit him and pull his hair and call him names. And that’s just one incident out of many. This same kid started a rumor that my son(and warning, this is awful and horrible) was having sex with his dad. Any shot my kid had at a social life was over then. That followed him all through high school. But notice, no one actually gave a shit enough about my son, if this horrid rumor was true, to help him or call the police or anything. When I brought this up at one of the endless meetings at school, THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM LAUGHED. High school was barely better than middle school, but again, no one ever gave a damn enough to reach out to my son, or help him or encourage him. I only recently found out the extent of the shit he was subjected to.
I contacted attorneys, none of this violated the law, there were no physical injuries, no proof any of it happened. A lot of stuff I found out only after he was out of school. I blame asshole parents, kids learn this shit, they are not born bullies.
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wrenchwench Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:26:02pm |
re: #266 A Mom Anon
Yup, you gotta write that book.
Maybe you and your son could alternate chapters.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:36:05pm |
re: #162 Varek Raith
He’s not sure it’s morally justifiable to tax people to establish an asteroid defense to keep them from extinction? Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ!
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Kragar Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:37:57pm |
re: #269 GeneJockey
He’s not sure it’s morally justifiable to tax people to establish an asteroid defense to keep them from extinction? Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ!
Its a slippery slope.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:39:16pm |
re: #269 GeneJockey
They’re completely detached from reality. Even they wouldn’t want to live in the world they envision.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:40:47pm |
re: #234 klys
I recommend, if you want to save your …anything, really, for the love of God, don’t read the comments.
Just don’t.
No worries there. The article already made me want to spit tacks.
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calochortus Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:41:49pm |
re: #271 A Mom Anon
They’re completely detached from reality. Even they wouldn’t want to live in the world they envision.
They want to live in the world they construct because it is tailored specifically to their individual needs, but no one else would live there. And they don’t want to live in anyone else’s fantasy.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:41:59pm |
re: #271 A Mom Anon
They’re completely detached from reality. Even they wouldn’t want to live in the world they envision.
No, they fucking want to live in the American that Liberalism built, but they want to not pay taxes or abide by regulations and laws they don’t like to do it.
They have all the common sense of a toddler.
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Whack-A-Mole Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:50:56pm |
re: #244 klys
For me it’s always 8. The only time it is ever more or less is when I’m sick,
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:52:09pm |
re: #266 A Mom Anon
I wish this was the exception, but from experience it’s not. WTF is wrong with people?
The stats say that between 1 out of 88 to 1 out of 150 children will be born on the autism spectrum. A really good chance that most families will know or have a child with autism at some point. This doesn’t even take into account all the adults out there who are on the spectrum.
My son got suspended once because he was attacked in the bathroom in 8th grade. A kid called him a faggot and a lot of other not so nice names and my son replied with”yeah, well, your mama”. The other kid went nuts. Why? Because he was adopted and didn’t know his mother. So appearently, my kid was supposed to be psychic, but the other kid was allowed to hit him and pull his hair and call him names. And that’s just one incident out of many. This same kid started a rumor that my son(and warning, this is awful and horrible) was having sex with his dad. Any shot my kid had at a social life was over then. That followed him all through high school. But notice, no one actually gave a shit enough about my son, if this horrid rumor was true, to help him or call the police or anything. When I brought this up at one of the endless meetings at school, THE ADULTS IN THE ROOM LAUGHED. High school was barely better than middle school, but again, no one ever gave a damn enough to reach out to my son, or help him or encourage him. I only recently found out the extent of the shit he was subjected to.
I contacted attorneys, none of this violated the law, there were no physical injuries, no proof any of it happened. A lot of stuff I found out only after he was out of school. I blame asshole parents, kids learn this shit, they are not born bullies.
Sadly, I think many adults have excessively rosy memories of their adolescence, and forget just how painful even the usual level of bullying is for Neurotypical kids, and they also forget just how bad it can by for anyone who differs significantly from the norm. AND they assume that it’s “all in good fun”.
It’s not.
The “Lord Of The Flies” environment in Middle School boils down to a few folks hammering back down any nail that sticks up while everyone else laughs, or cowers hoping THEY aren’t next.
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 3:54:55pm |
re: #274 GeneJockey
You just insulted toddlers ( I kid I kid). I sometimes despair for the future. Even though I know the majority of people have kind hearts, it’s the assholes that break things and make it harder than it needs to be that really freak me out. How do people get so broken inside?
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Pumpkin Pie Of Zion Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:00:13pm |
re: #198 ObserverArt
That is all I needed to hear. I figured no reason to go further, I was up against Rush and all those Rush facts. Days and months and years of Rush facts. You can’t fight that…and that it sad.
And Rush makes all that shit up as he goes. It’s like the Gish Gallop, except in the Gish gallop they pile on a bunch of random facts, and Rush piles on a bunch of random crap he pulls out of his ass.
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GeneJockey Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:05:43pm |
re: #277 A Mom Anon
You just insulted toddlers ( I kid I kid). I sometimes despair for the future. Even though I know the majority of people have kind hearts, it’s the assholes that break things and make it harder than it needs to be that really freak me out. How do people get so broken inside?
In many ways, Roosevelt’s timing in becoming President 2 years into the Great Depression was much better than Obama’s, becoming President int he midst of the crash. Roosevelt had the benefit of 2 years of Republican Laissez Faire economics failing miserably, completely destroying their credibility.
By comparison, the economy was still crashing when Obama passed the Stimulus bill, and since it didn’t make everything better all at once, Conservative Economics recovered quickly.
In other words, the Depression made it clear to most people just how stupid Libertarianism is, so they weren’t vulnerable to its siren song. The Great Recession OTOH, has been unable to drive a stake through its tiny, stony, selfish heart.
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William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:14:14pm |
re: #268 A Mom Anon
You know, that might be a plan…..
I’d buy a copy.
Though the bully we were dealing with this week is was his math teacher. He lost it in a big way with his Special Ed teacher over her treatment of him in class. He’s no angel but when we have other parents telling us that their kid is scared because of the way she yelled at _my_ son, there’s something seriously wrong. Plus I learned he was sitting in class with his hands in his lap, staring at his hands all period - a classic fear position. He was scared of saying or doing anything that might trigger her.
Considering how easily the assistant principal went along with us, I have to bet we are not the only ones to have had problems with her.
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AlexRogan Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:15:05pm |
re: #264 Targetpractice
There’s actually a novel out there called The Probability Broach that posits a world where a single world difference in the Constitution caused Albert Gallatin, first Secretary of the Treasury, to take the side of farmers in the Whiskey Rebellion and depose the government (Washington, of course, was executed for treason) and pass a new Articles of Confederation, leading to a libertarian paradise called the North American Confederacy.
I read the graphic novel version a few years back and found it compelling…for all of an hour. Then I did research, learned the book had been written back in 1980, and laughed my ass off.
Just reading the synopsis on Wiki makes my head hurt.
If the proto-dudebroness of the North American Confederacy series (yes, there are multiple books of this crap) takes you aback, get a load of this:
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A Mom Anon Wed, Nov 20, 2013 4:33:06pm |
re: #280 William Barnett-Lewis
God that’s heartbreaking. I hope you get this mess resolved. Every child has the right to an education without fear of anything, ridicule, threats, violence, failure. There has to be a better model for education than the one we’re using. Bullying is not just wrong and harmful, it also robs kids of their shot at an education. I don’t know what the answer is, but we’re missing some important pieces, this shit ain’t right.
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