Breaking: Reid Goes Nuclear

Spine detected in Senate Democrats

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Brief diary. Reid has gone nuclear. He’s going to prevent the Tihadists from shutting down the government with fake filibusters.

UPDATE at 11/21/13 10:15:06 am

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72 comments

1 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 8:56:23am

Small tactical nuke. Why not USSC nominees?

2 KiTA  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 8:59:46am

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Small tactical nuke. Why not USSC nominees?

Baby steps. Having a spine is new to these guys.

3 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 9:28:09am
4 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:04:04am

Waiting for Bryan Fischer to once again declare that because of allowing women in military filibuster change we no longer live in Constitutional Republic. //

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:04:49am

Reid found his pair? Will wonders never cease?

Of course, that’s why the baby steps - he’s not used to walking with them connected down there…

6 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:05:10am

Already the GOP are shaking their fists in impotent rage and promising vengeance.

8 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:08:35am

re: #6 Targetpractice

Already the GOP are shaking their fists in impotent rage and promising vengeance.

and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?

9 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:09:27am

re: #8 piratedan

and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?

Yeah, no shit.

10 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:10:12am

I anxiously await the spotlight returning to John Boehner’s House of Representatives as the most dysfunctional legislative body on Earth.

Let’s change a few more rules and then force him to vote down an immigration reform bill.

11 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:10:17am

re: #8 piratedan

and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?

This time they really mean it.

//

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:10:30am

aaack!

13 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:25am

re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis

Reid found his pair? Will wonders never cease?

Of course, that’s why the baby steps - he’s not used to walking with them connected down there…

in his defense, he does have the tactical nightmare of herding the likes of Pryor, Landrieu, Manchin and Feinstein onto the same page when they’re not busy Blue Dogging it or playing the august body of tradition cards….

14 jamesfirecat  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:28am

I think Reed may have finally decided if the other side is gonna fight dirty it’s time to slip some horshoes into the gloves.

15 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:29am

re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth

Not embedding because there’s a Vine autoplay, but it’s good.

And it autoplayed anyway.

16 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:00am

The Freepers seem to actually be more pissed at the GOP than anyone over this, because they wanted Republicans to go nuclear back when they were in the majority and instead got the “Gang of Fourteen.”

17 psddluva4evah  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:33am

For this tweet alone, Harry Reid has won the internets for the day:

I’m old enough to remember when Sen. McConnell insisted on up-or-down votes for judicial nominations

18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:43am

re: #15 GeneJockey

And it autoplayed anyway.

saw that and deleted it.
sigh

19 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:13:13am

re: #13 piratedan

in his defense, he does have the tactical nightmare of herding the likes of Pryor, Landrieu, Manchin and Feinstein onto the same page when they’re not busy Blue Dogging it or playing the august body of tradition cards….

I think this was pretty much the final straw, there was no longer a coherent or serious argument in favor of just making yet another deal with Republicans that they’d break as soon as the nominees came to a vote.

20 psddluva4evah  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:13:15am

re: #17 psddluva4evah

it also wins for the best use of Vine video for the day!

21 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:14:31am

Congratulations to Harry Reid for finally developing a pair.

22 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:17:17am

There’s a lesson here for the GOP:

The Senate has historically depended on members not abusing the extraordinary privileges contained in the rules. The GOP in the last decade has been abusing these rules to prevent any action by the majority, and acting as if they were fixed and immutable.

They’re not.

This is why the GOP can’t have nice things.

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

saw that and deleted it.
sigh

Then someone else posted it.

23 bratwurst  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:18:04am

Today wouldn’t be possible without GOP senators too cowardly to stand up to tea party nitwits at home.

24 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:19:18am
25 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:21:56am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

saw that and deleted it.
sigh

I don’t think Vine autoplay is too bad, since at least it starts up in mute mode so you don’t suddenly have audio.

26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:06am

Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.

27 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:30am

re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.

Yes, it’s a limited nuclear exchange.

28 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:39am

It’s been a long time coming…

Youtube Video

Afternoon music break.

29 po8crg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:24:13am

re: #1 Decatur Deb

Small tactical nuke. Why not USSC nominees?

Because no-one’s ever filibustered one. Threat’s sitting on the table now: filibuster one and we’ll nuke the filibuster for them and we might just drop in treaties or legislation while we’re at it.

Ooops, we accidentally ratified Kyoto. Sorry, our bad.

30 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:25:33am
31 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:26:26am

re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.

However, it does make clear that it’s on the table, and that the patience of the majority with these shenanigans is not infinite.

32 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:28:45am

The only downside is that if the GOP retakes the Senate they will have this option, but honestly I’d have expected them to do it anyway, given that they’re the ones who came up with the idea back in Trent Lott’s day. He called it the ‘Constitutional Option’, back when the GOP was saying all the President’s nominees deserved an ‘Upperdown Vote’.

33 Belafon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:30:36am

re: #29 po8crg

the constitution requires a 2/3 vote on treaties.

34 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:05am

re: #30 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Yeah, Reid “destroyed” the filibuster on some judicial and administration nominees, while it remains for legislation, treaties, and SCOTUS nominees. Oy.

Only way the man may have “destroyed” the filibuster is by providing the GOP an excuse when they retake the majority to just junk that section or others of the filibuster. And, to be perfectly honest, I’d rather like to see the end of the filibuster. Or, at the very least, the end of the “two-track” system that allowed filibusters to be filed without the Senate coming to a crashing halt.

35 Ed E. Lishus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:12am

Doubtless the usual suspects like Chuck Todd and Mark Halperin will breathlessly describe Reid’s gambit “unprecedented” and “extreme.” Words which, if you think about it, exactly fit the senate GOP’s actions over the last few years. One good turn deserves another, boys.

36 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:50am

People are so weird about sex

“Sex is like glue, Jessica,” my mother said, demonstrating her point in the living room, after we arrived home. She held up two sheets of construction paper, the white presumably representative of me, and the red “your husband,” she said. With glue, she pressed the two sheets together and twisted her palms. When she pulled the sheets apart, a rip began in the middle and by the end, there were only tatters of paper abundant with holes, frayed red throughout. “See,” she said, holding up the sheets proudly, “bloodied, damaged and destroyed.” I was horrified.

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37 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:52am

Rush was just screaming about how unfair it is when the majority changes the rules.

I guess I missed the part where he screamed about the House GOP changing the rules about who could bring a bill up for a vote during the shutdown.

38 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:32:06am

How is everyone?

39 RadicalModerate  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:32:58am

Remember, it was the GOP who originally proposed the nuclear option way back in the 1970s when Nixon was president, then resurrected in 2005 by the GOP because Democrats were attempting to block specific judicial nominees who had far-right ideologies, and did not have approval by the American Bar Association (a tradition that was broken by the GW Bush administration). The vast majority of nominees by Bush were passed thru without issue.

In the Obama administration, the Senate GOP has attempted to block EVERY nominee put forward by the president, and a large number of judicial, and other non-political administrative seats are still filled by Bush-era holdovers because their replacements have been systematically blocked.

40 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:33:15am

re: #4 Bulworth

Waiting for Bryan Fischer to once again declare that because of allowing women in military filibuster change we no longer live in Constitutional Republic. //

TYRANNY!

41 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:33:39am

re: #34 Targetpractice

Yeah, Reid “destroyed” the filibuster on some judicial and administration nominees, while it remains for legislation, treaties, and SCOTUS nominees. Oy.

Only way the man may have “destroyed” the filibuster is by providing the GOP an excuse when they retake the majority to just junk that section or others of the filibuster. And, to be perfectly honest, I’d rather like to see the end of the filibuster. Or, at the very least, the end of the “two-track” system that allowed filibusters to be filed without the Senate coming to a crashing halt.

You know they were going to do it anyway. They damn near did back in the 00s, but the ‘Gang of 14’ stopped it - and were castigated by the Right for preventing the nuclear option from being triggered. You know, the same folks who are now whining piteously about it?

42 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:34:53am

How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.

43 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:35:58am

Dick Durbin, describing Reid’s action as having no other option, as totally necessary, and only done under extraordinary circumstances, and “the “extraordinary circumstances” from the Republicans was the “re-election of Barack Obama”.

44 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:36:12am

re: #42 Ian G.

How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.

Then Jimmy Stewart can talk for hours and hours till Claude Rains finally shoots himself.

45 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:38:02am

re: #29 po8crg

Because no-one’s ever filibustered one. Threat’s sitting on the table now: filibuster one and we’ll nuke the filibuster for them and we might just drop in treaties or legislation while we’re at it.

Ooops, we accidentally ratified Kyoto. Sorry, our bad.

Even with the “61st-most-liberal” problem simplified to the “51st-most-liberal” problem this would probably be doubtful.

EDIT: Disregard. This is correct:
re: #33 Belafon

67th-most-liberal problem. Derp.

46 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:39:58am

re: #39 RadicalModerate

Remember, it was the GOP who originally proposed the nuclear option way back in the 1970s when Nixon was president, then resurrected in 2005 by the GOP because Democrats were attempting to block specific judicial nominees who had far-right ideologies, and did not have approval by the American Bar Association (a tradition that was broken by the GW Bush administration). The vast majority of nominees by Bush were passed thru without issue.

In the Obama administration, the Senate GOP has attempted to block EVERY nominee put forward by the president, and a large number of judicial, and other non-political administrative seats are still filled by Bush-era holdovers because their replacements have been systematically blocked.

Think most of us still remember the ruling handed down recently finding that employers have a religious right to prevent their employees from obtaining birth control through the health insurance that is part of their compensation. The reason that ruling came down is because the D.C. Court of Appeals has been run by a skeleton crew for awhile now due to GOP filibusters, leading to a ruling where one of those far-right judges that got through as a result of the Gang of Fourteen (Janice Rogers Brown) was the deciding vote.

47 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:41:31am

42

48 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:41:32am
49 RadicalModerate  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:42:26am

re: #42 Ian G.

How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.

The GOP changed that back in the 1980s when they qualified a filibuster as someone in the Senate just saying they would start a filibuster - actually taking the Senate floor was no longer even required.

50 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:43:45am

re: #48 Kragar

[Embedded content]

That is enough to make me go nuclear.

51 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:07am

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

People are so weird about sex

And I thought the chewing gum analogy was bad enough. The glue one is worse. WTF.

52 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:08am

re: #49 RadicalModerate

The GOP changed that back in the 1980s when they qualified a filibuster as someone in the Senate just saying they would start a filibuster - actually taking the Senate floor was no longer even required.

Yep, then it just became a formality. Like a couple of damned children playing a game.

“Alright, we’ve got 51 votes for this bill.”
“Yeah? Well, I’m filibustering it.”
“Okay, I’ll file for cloture.”
“Ha! You and what army?”

53 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:59am

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

How is everyone?

Amused by Reid growing a pair and the GOP losing their shit over a small tactial nuke option.

54 blueraven  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:45:15am

Will this change the ability for one Senator to put a hold on nominees?

55 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:46:40am

Thank you, Senator Reid.

Now, as for those Republicans who might say that payback will be a bitch in three or five or nine years when the GOP has its shit together enough to win an honest election, but as Republicans themselves are fond of saying when asked a tough question, we’re not going to deal with hypotheticals.

And even if the GOP got the house and senate and White House back in 2016, things would just go back to the way they were under the Bush admin…Democrats would bitch and moan about the GOP fucking over the bulk of Americans, then they’d stand by and watch as the GOP went along unobstructed…and of course take the blame for it in the polls as the GOP cry, “Why didn’t the Democrats stop us when they could!”

56 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:48:05am

International Warning Flags

Storm

Ship in Distress

Racists

57 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:48:12am

re: #54 blueraven

Will this change the ability for one Senator to put a hold on nominees?

Judicial and executive nominees - not including SCOTUS nominees. But Secretaries, Ambassadors, District judges…those are all fair game now for up or down votes.

58 Mike Lamb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:48:48am

It’s pronounced new-cue-ler..

59 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:49:48am
60 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:49:54am

re: #56 Kragar

International Warning Flags

Storm
Ship in Distress
Racists

Librulszzzzz!

61 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:05am
62 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:14am

re: #58 Mike Lamb

It’s pronounced new-cue-ler..

“The ‘s’ is silent!”
Perter Griffin

63 blueraven  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:27am

re: #57 darthstar

Judicial and executive nominees - not including SCOTUS nominees. But Secretaries, Ambassadors, District judges…those are all fair game now for up or down votes.

So they wont be able to do this any longer?

Shelby Blocks All Obama Nominations In The Senate Over AL Earmarks

Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) has put an extraordinary “blanket hold” on at least 70 nominations President Obama has sent to the Senate, according to multiple reports this evening. The hold means no nominations can move forward unless Senate Democrats can secure a 60-member cloture vote to break it, or until Shelby lifts the hold.

talkingpointsmemo.com

64 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:51am
65 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:52:18am

remember the RC Priest that was going to do the exorcism?

The Bishop of Springfield, Illinois, Thomas Paprocki (above) held an exorcism of same-sex marriage yesterday. Present in the audience were grammar school students.

Paprocki, dressed in a flowing purple robe, accused Governor Quinn of being “morally complicit” with the “Father of lies” — by bringing same-sex marriage to the Land of Lincoln, or, what he calls, “institutionalizing an objectively sinful reality.”

But members of the LGBT community and their allies shouldn’t be alarmed, Paprocki claimed, because “the church loves homosexual persons and looks upon them with compassion.”

“It is not hateful to say that an immoral action is sinful,” Bishop Paprocki announced in his “homily.” “On the contrary, the most compassionate thing we can do is help people to turn away from sin. To ignore another person’s wrongful actions is a sign of apathy or indifference, while fraternal correction is motivated by love for that person’s well-being, as can be seen by the fact that our Lord Jesus himself urged such correction.”

RC Priest teaching Hate.

To be Paged — video on Page.

66 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:56:59am

re: #38 FemNaziBitch

How is everyone?

Stop asking the hard questions!
I can’t handle it.

67 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:57:36am

re: #65 FemNaziBitch

he sounds nice

68 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:21am

re: #36 FemNaziBitch

People are so weird about sex

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Everyone needs to read that. Seriously.

69 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:47am

re: #66 b_sharp

Stop asking the hard questions!
I can’t handle it.

sorry

70 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:04am

the ObamaCare Disaster

if you can’t stop landmark progressive legislation from going forward and being fully implemented, you can always act like you won anyway

71 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:20am

re: #69 FemNaziBitch

sorry

Oh Glod, another one.

PANIC!!

72 socrets  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 3:01:40pm

I’m surprised that no one has used this clip to describe Senator Reid.


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