KiTABrief diary. Reid has gone nuclear. He’s going to prevent the Tihadists from shutting down the government with fake filibusters.
I’m old enough to remember when Sen. McConnell insisted on up-or-down votes for judicial confirmations. https://t.co/qEcBrh3yNR
— Senator Harry Reid (@SenatorReid) November 21, 2013
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KiTA Thu, Nov 21, 2013 8:59:46am |
re: #1 Decatur Deb
Small tactical nuke. Why not USSC nominees?
Baby steps. Having a spine is new to these guys.
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wrenchwench Thu, Nov 21, 2013 9:28:09am |
pic.twitter.com/3Ne6HBewOg— Matt Ford (@HemlockMartinis) November 21, 2013
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Bulworth Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:04:04am |
Waiting for Bryan Fischer to once again declare that because of allowing women in military filibuster change we no longer live in Constitutional Republic. //
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:04:49am |
Reid found his pair? Will wonders never cease?
Of course, that’s why the baby steps - he’s not used to walking with them connected down there…
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:05:10am |
Already the GOP are shaking their fists in impotent rage and promising vengeance.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:05:30am |
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piratedan Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:08:35am |
re: #6 Targetpractice
Already the GOP are shaking their fists in impotent rage and promising vengeance.
and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:09:27am |
re: #8 piratedan
and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?
Yeah, no shit.
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erik_t Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:10:12am |
I anxiously await the spotlight returning to John Boehner’s House of Representatives as the most dysfunctional legislative body on Earth.
Let’s change a few more rules and then force him to vote down an immigration reform bill.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:10:17am |
re: #8 piratedan
and how is that different than every other day since Obama took office?
This time they really mean it.
//
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piratedan Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:25am |
re: #5 William Barnett-Lewis
Reid found his pair? Will wonders never cease?
Of course, that’s why the baby steps - he’s not used to walking with them connected down there…
in his defense, he does have the tactical nightmare of herding the likes of Pryor, Landrieu, Manchin and Feinstein onto the same page when they’re not busy Blue Dogging it or playing the august body of tradition cards….
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jamesfirecat Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:28am |
I think Reed may have finally decided if the other side is gonna fight dirty it’s time to slip some horshoes into the gloves.
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:11:29am |
re: #12 Backwoods_Sleuth
Not embedding because there’s a Vine autoplay, but it’s good.
And it autoplayed anyway.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:00am |
The Freepers seem to actually be more pissed at the GOP than anyone over this, because they wanted Republicans to go nuclear back when they were in the majority and instead got the “Gang of Fourteen.”
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psddluva4evah Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:33am |
For this tweet alone, Harry Reid has won the internets for the day:
I’m old enough to remember when Sen. McConnell insisted on up-or-down votes for judicial nominations
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Backwoods_Sleuth Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:12:43am |
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:13:13am |
re: #13 piratedan
in his defense, he does have the tactical nightmare of herding the likes of Pryor, Landrieu, Manchin and Feinstein onto the same page when they’re not busy Blue Dogging it or playing the august body of tradition cards….
I think this was pretty much the final straw, there was no longer a coherent or serious argument in favor of just making yet another deal with Republicans that they’d break as soon as the nominees came to a vote.
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psddluva4evah Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:13:15am |
re: #17 psddluva4evah
it also wins for the best use of Vine video for the day!
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Dr. Matt Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:14:31am |
Congratulations to Harry Reid for finally developing a pair.
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:17:17am |
There’s a lesson here for the GOP:
The Senate has historically depended on members not abusing the extraordinary privileges contained in the rules. The GOP in the last decade has been abusing these rules to prevent any action by the majority, and acting as if they were fixed and immutable.
They’re not.
This is why the GOP can’t have nice things.
re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth
saw that and deleted it.
sigh
Then someone else posted it.
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bratwurst Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:18:04am |
Today wouldn’t be possible without GOP senators too cowardly to stand up to tea party nitwits at home.
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:19:18am |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:21:56am |
re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth
saw that and deleted it.
sigh
I don’t think Vine autoplay is too bad, since at least it starts up in mute mode so you don’t suddenly have audio.
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Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:06am |
Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:30am |
re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.
Yes, it’s a limited nuclear exchange.
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Justanotherhuman Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:23:39am |
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po8crg Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:24:13am |
re: #1 Decatur Deb
Small tactical nuke. Why not USSC nominees?
Because no-one’s ever filibustered one. Threat’s sitting on the table now: filibuster one and we’ll nuke the filibuster for them and we might just drop in treaties or legislation while we’re at it.
Ooops, we accidentally ratified Kyoto. Sorry, our bad.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:25:33am |
The furious whining at Breitbartocom is epic: http://t.co/weHGTpRhN5— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 21, 2013
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:26:26am |
re: #26 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut
Note that this is only for nominees, not for legislation. Not the full nuclear.
However, it does make clear that it’s on the table, and that the patience of the majority with these shenanigans is not infinite.
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:28:45am |
The only downside is that if the GOP retakes the Senate they will have this option, but honestly I’d have expected them to do it anyway, given that they’re the ones who came up with the idea back in Trent Lott’s day. He called it the ‘Constitutional Option’, back when the GOP was saying all the President’s nominees deserved an ‘Upperdown Vote’.
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Belafon Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:30:36am |
re: #29 po8crg
the constitution requires a 2/3 vote on treaties.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:05am |
re: #30 Charles Johnson
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Yeah, Reid “destroyed” the filibuster on some judicial and administration nominees, while it remains for legislation, treaties, and SCOTUS nominees. Oy.
Only way the man may have “destroyed” the filibuster is by providing the GOP an excuse when they retake the majority to just junk that section or others of the filibuster. And, to be perfectly honest, I’d rather like to see the end of the filibuster. Or, at the very least, the end of the “two-track” system that allowed filibusters to be filed without the Senate coming to a crashing halt.
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Ed E. Lishus Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:12am |
Doubtless the usual suspects like Chuck Todd and Mark Halperin will breathlessly describe Reid’s gambit “unprecedented” and “extreme.” Words which, if you think about it, exactly fit the senate GOP’s actions over the last few years. One good turn deserves another, boys.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:50am |
“Sex is like glue, Jessica,” my mother said, demonstrating her point in the living room, after we arrived home. She held up two sheets of construction paper, the white presumably representative of me, and the red “your husband,” she said. With glue, she pressed the two sheets together and twisted her palms. When she pulled the sheets apart, a rip began in the middle and by the end, there were only tatters of paper abundant with holes, frayed red throughout. “See,” she said, holding up the sheets proudly, “bloodied, damaged and destroyed.” I was horrified.
also Paged
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Kragar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:31:52am |
Rush was just screaming about how unfair it is when the majority changes the rules.
I guess I missed the part where he screamed about the House GOP changing the rules about who could bring a bill up for a vote during the shutdown.
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RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:32:58am |
Remember, it was the GOP who originally proposed the nuclear option way back in the 1970s when Nixon was president, then resurrected in 2005 by the GOP because Democrats were attempting to block specific judicial nominees who had far-right ideologies, and did not have approval by the American Bar Association (a tradition that was broken by the GW Bush administration). The vast majority of nominees by Bush were passed thru without issue.
In the Obama administration, the Senate GOP has attempted to block EVERY nominee put forward by the president, and a large number of judicial, and other non-political administrative seats are still filled by Bush-era holdovers because their replacements have been systematically blocked.
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:33:15am |
re: #4 Bulworth
Waiting for Bryan Fischer to once again declare that because of
allowing women in militaryfilibuster change we no longer live in Constitutional Republic. //
TYRANNY!
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:33:39am |
re: #34 Targetpractice
Yeah, Reid “destroyed” the filibuster on some judicial and administration nominees, while it remains for legislation, treaties, and SCOTUS nominees. Oy.
Only way the man may have “destroyed” the filibuster is by providing the GOP an excuse when they retake the majority to just junk that section or others of the filibuster. And, to be perfectly honest, I’d rather like to see the end of the filibuster. Or, at the very least, the end of the “two-track” system that allowed filibusters to be filed without the Senate coming to a crashing halt.
You know they were going to do it anyway. They damn near did back in the 00s, but the ‘Gang of 14’ stopped it - and were castigated by the Right for preventing the nuclear option from being triggered. You know, the same folks who are now whining piteously about it?
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Ian G. Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:34:53am |
How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.
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Justanotherhuman Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:35:58am |
Dick Durbin, describing Reid’s action as having no other option, as totally necessary, and only done under extraordinary circumstances, and “the “extraordinary circumstances” from the Republicans was the “re-election of Barack Obama”.
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GeneJockey Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:36:12am |
re: #42 Ian G.
How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.
Then Jimmy Stewart can talk for hours and hours till Claude Rains finally shoots himself.
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Schadenboner Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:38:02am |
re: #29 po8crg
Because no-one’s ever filibustered one. Threat’s sitting on the table now: filibuster one and we’ll nuke the filibuster for them and we might just drop in treaties or legislation while we’re at it.
Ooops, we accidentally ratified Kyoto. Sorry, our bad.
Even with the “61st-most-liberal” problem simplified to the “51st-most-liberal” problem this would probably be doubtful.
EDIT: Disregard. This is correct:
re: #33 Belafon
67th-most-liberal problem. Derp.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:39:58am |
re: #39 RadicalModerate
Remember, it was the GOP who originally proposed the nuclear option way back in the 1970s when Nixon was president, then resurrected in 2005 by the GOP because Democrats were attempting to block specific judicial nominees who had far-right ideologies, and did not have approval by the American Bar Association (a tradition that was broken by the GW Bush administration). The vast majority of nominees by Bush were passed thru without issue.
In the Obama administration, the Senate GOP has attempted to block EVERY nominee put forward by the president, and a large number of judicial, and other non-political administrative seats are still filled by Bush-era holdovers because their replacements have been systematically blocked.
Think most of us still remember the ruling handed down recently finding that employers have a religious right to prevent their employees from obtaining birth control through the health insurance that is part of their compensation. The reason that ruling came down is because the D.C. Court of Appeals has been run by a skeleton crew for awhile now due to GOP filibusters, leading to a ruling where one of those far-right judges that got through as a result of the Gang of Fourteen (Janice Rogers Brown) was the deciding vote.
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Kragar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:41:32am |
Students Fasten Bike Lock Around Black Roommate's Neck; Call Him 'Three-Fifths' http://t.co/Jf8UNYjp83— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 21, 2013
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RadicalModerate Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:42:26am |
re: #42 Ian G.
How about just changing the filibuster back to where you had to talk for 80 hours straight? I’d love to see that, as well as the creaky old men that make up the GOP keel over as they try to do it.
The GOP changed that back in the 1980s when they qualified a filibuster as someone in the Senate just saying they would start a filibuster - actually taking the Senate floor was no longer even required.
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:43:45am |
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Lidane Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:07am |
re: #36 FemNaziBitch
And I thought the chewing gum analogy was bad enough. The glue one is worse. WTF.
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Targetpractice Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:08am |
re: #49 RadicalModerate
The GOP changed that back in the 1980s when they qualified a filibuster as someone in the Senate just saying they would start a filibuster - actually taking the Senate floor was no longer even required.
Yep, then it just became a formality. Like a couple of damned children playing a game.
“Alright, we’ve got 51 votes for this bill.”
“Yeah? Well, I’m filibustering it.”
“Okay, I’ll file for cloture.”
“Ha! You and what army?”
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Lidane Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:44:59am |
re: #38 FemNaziBitch
How is everyone?
Amused by Reid growing a pair and the GOP losing their shit over a small tactial nuke option.
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blueraven Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:45:15am |
Will this change the ability for one Senator to put a hold on nominees?
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darthstar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:46:40am |
Thank you, Senator Reid.
Now, as for those Republicans who might say that payback will be a bitch in three or five or nine years when the GOP has its shit together enough to win an honest election, but as Republicans themselves are fond of saying when asked a tough question, we’re not going to deal with hypotheticals.
And even if the GOP got the house and senate and White House back in 2016, things would just go back to the way they were under the Bush admin…Democrats would bitch and moan about the GOP fucking over the bulk of Americans, then they’d stand by and watch as the GOP went along unobstructed…and of course take the blame for it in the polls as the GOP cry, “Why didn’t the Democrats stop us when they could!”
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Kragar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:48:05am |
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darthstar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:48:12am |
re: #54 blueraven
Will this change the ability for one Senator to put a hold on nominees?
Judicial and executive nominees - not including SCOTUS nominees. But Secretaries, Ambassadors, District judges…those are all fair game now for up or down votes.
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darthstar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:49:48am |
There's one small problem with GOP threat to use nuclear option themselves when they take power back. Getting voters to trust them to lead.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 21, 2013
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darthstar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:05am |
Durbin: GOP pledged not to filibuster except for “extraordinary” events - but turns out Obama's entire re-election was “extraordinary.”— Ari Melber (@AriMelber) November 21, 2013
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Varek Raith Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:14am |
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blueraven Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:27am |
re: #57 darthstar
Judicial and executive nominees - not including SCOTUS nominees. But Secretaries, Ambassadors, District judges…those are all fair game now for up or down votes.
So they wont be able to do this any longer?
Shelby Blocks All Obama Nominations In The Senate Over AL Earmarks
Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) has put an extraordinary “blanket hold” on at least 70 nominations President Obama has sent to the Senate, according to multiple reports this evening. The hold means no nominations can move forward unless Senate Democrats can secure a 60-member cloture vote to break it, or until Shelby lifts the hold.
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darthstar Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:51:51am |
Sad Bob Woodward Would Have Journalismed Edward Snowden Way Better Than That Dumb Glenn Greenwald http://t.co/OcBYmSN252— Wonkette (@Wonkette) November 21, 2013
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:52:18am |
remember the RC Priest that was going to do the exorcism?
The Bishop of Springfield, Illinois, Thomas Paprocki (above) held an exorcism of same-sex marriage yesterday. Present in the audience were grammar school students.
Paprocki, dressed in a flowing purple robe, accused Governor Quinn of being “morally complicit” with the “Father of lies” — by bringing same-sex marriage to the Land of Lincoln, or, what he calls, “institutionalizing an objectively sinful reality.”
But members of the LGBT community and their allies shouldn’t be alarmed, Paprocki claimed, because “the church loves homosexual persons and looks upon them with compassion.”
“It is not hateful to say that an immoral action is sinful,” Bishop Paprocki announced in his “homily.” “On the contrary, the most compassionate thing we can do is help people to turn away from sin. To ignore another person’s wrongful actions is a sign of apathy or indifference, while fraternal correction is motivated by love for that person’s well-being, as can be seen by the fact that our Lord Jesus himself urged such correction.”
RC Priest teaching Hate.
To be Paged — video on Page.
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Eclectic Cyborg Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:21am |
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FemNaziBitch Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:47am |
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