1 Mike Lamb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:55:14am

President Obama’s comments to begin tele-promptly…

2 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:31am

“To the Republicans in Congress, if you don’t start shit, there won’t be shit.”

3 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:37am

Oh hey. It’s Chuck Todd bloviating. Yay for the mute button!

4 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:58:56am
5 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:04am

I see Chuck Todd’s there to offer his priceless opinion about what the President doesn’t actually say.

6 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:10am

re: #2 Kragar

“To the Republicans in Congress, if you don’t start shit, there won’t be shit.”

That would be epic.

7 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 10:59:30am

Lol, Todd.

8 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:00:14am

bbl

9 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:00:38am

I’m concerned about the welfare of Chuck Todd, Ed Henry, and the world of the DC Village Media today. They aren’t used to this. They’ll need help adjusting. //

10 blueraven  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:01:03am

This is the DEmonRats changing the subject from ObamaScare!!

11 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:01:18am

Commenter over at TPM go it exactly right:

Charlie Brown just said “fuck it” and kicked Lucy.

12 nines09  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:01:37am

I’m pleased to announce to the American people that Harry Reid has discovered his balls. Dealing with GOP/TP pricks for years was getting old, so I myself am happy for this development. Mitch? Fuck you. Thank you and good day.”

13 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:04:37am

Had to share this from my fb before my nap —I am too tired to fact-check.

Half of all nominees EVER filibustered in U.S. history were Obama administration nominees. This is unprecedented and unacceptable.

14 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:07:55am

Reid: Senate GOPer Approached Me With A Deal On Filibuster

“Last night I got a call from one of my Republican friends saying, Harry, we’ve got a deal for you,” he said at a Capitol Hill press conference. “I’m anxious to listen. What is this — we’ll give you one of the D.C. Circuit [Court nominee], that way it will be 5-4.

“I just can’t imagine — and one of my friends, he’s a friend, anyway, we’ve been in the House together, Senate together, a long type, what would you do? What would you do, I said?” he added. “And he, just the two of us, he didn’t want to, he said I’m not answering that question. Everyone knows that what has gone on is absolutely unfair and wrong and I’m glad we changed it. It’s a day of freshness for this great country of ours.”

15 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:08:59am
16 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:09:04am

re: #11 Targetpractice

Commenter over at TPM go it exactly right:

Youtube Video

17 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:09:55am

No idea who said it, but:

“Does this mean political war?”

WTF kind of journalistic question is that?

18 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:10:31am
19 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:12:04am

re: #17 klys

No idea who said it, but:

“Does this mean political war?”

WTF kind of journalistic question is that?

what the fuck have they been watching for the last six years?

20 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:12:06am

The song remains the same: GOP buttons from 1934, 1964, and 2012
One difference: Conservatives weren’t in bed with the Kremlin in ‘34 and ‘64.

21 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:12:57am
22 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:13:12am
23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:13:19am

That jumbo jet at the wrong airport is getting ready to attempt a takeoff.
The roads around the airport have been shut down…just in case…

24 b.d.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:14:16am

Late to the party here, so now it will only take 51 votes to kick Mitch out of the Senate?

25 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:14:43am

Of course, now Republicans are swearing they’ll also expand this to include SCOTUS nominees. But they fail to realize that such threats only matter if they can win the presidency back.

26 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:17:26am

Sadly, if the Democrats filibustered a Republican President this many times, the nuclear option would have been in place a long time ago.

27 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:17:34am

re: #20 Shiplord Kirel

That rebranding effort is going swimmingly well.

The Party of No tries to rebrand by sweeping under the rug that they’re still saying no to the safety net, whether it’s the access to affordable health insurance (NO!), Medicaid (NO!), or Medicare (NO!).

That’s even though we’re spending more on health care than other OECD countries and getting worse outcomes (lower life expectancies, higher costs, and fewer people covered by insurance).

The kicker is that the GOP, which is busy bitching about the rejiggering of 5% of the insurance marketplace (the percentage that relies on individual marketplace), would rather turn the Medicare/Medicaid portion into the same kind of means-tested and mess that they are busy complaining about with the ACA. Their ultimate goal is to roll back the Medicare/Medicaid system and leave people to their own devices with HSAs, leaving them SOL if they run into serious medical issues.

28 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:18:22am
29 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:19:22am

re: #23 Backwoods_Sleuth

30 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:19:51am
31 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:21:10am

When GWB was in the White House, conservatives called it the “constitutional option” and not the “nuclear option”.

Amazing how the Lexicon changes when the scary Muslim, Marxist Black man takes over.

32 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:21:12am

re: #5 darthstar

I see Chuck Todd’s there to offer his priceless opinion about what the President doesn’t actually say.

Priceless/worthless, invaluable/valueless. Why do we have to quibble over words?

33 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:21:19am
34 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:22:00am

So does this stop that insane “secret hold” thing where one Senator can object off the record and it shuts the whole process down?

35 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:24:39am

re: #33 Charles Johnson
Santa dropped off a present a little early..moohahahaha. Tee to the Hee.

36 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:24:40am

re: #34 A Mom Anon

So does this stop that insane “secret hold” thing where one Senator can object off the record and it shuts the whole process down?

In the last thread it was the view that this is part of what’s been gotten rid of.

37 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:25:40am

re: #36 Schadenboner
Good. That never should have been allowed in the first place.

38 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:26:36am
39 The War TARDIS  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:27:44am

Good news for Bon Jovi Fans like me.

Livin’ on a Prayer has made it back into the Billboard Hot 100, Taking 25th Spot for this last week.

40 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:28:23am

perhaps somebody might now suggest to mr boehner that we might be allowed to try using the house of representatives to vote on legislation

i know, it’s a crazy idea

41 Weet  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:28:28am

Levin needs to be primaried, badly. He got up and made his little speech about how horrible it was that Democrats got rid of the filibuster of Presidential appointments. He did this within minutes after the vote was taken.

42 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:28:55am

re: #38 Learned Pie Of Zion

Well, God willing, they’re half-right…

43 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:29:03am

I’d like to add an amendment to that appointee.
An amendment?
Yes.
It’s a person, not a bill.

44 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:29:54am

re: #39 The War TARDIS

Good news for Bon Jovi Fans like me.

Livin’ on a Prayer has made it back into the Billboard Hot 100, Taking 25th Spot for this last week.

Proof that a kind and beneficent God does not exist.

45 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:30:57am
46 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:31:55am

re: #38 Learned Pie Of Zion

Marxofascist

What is this, I don’t even…

47 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:32:20am

re: #43 darthstar

I’d like to add an amendment to that appointee.
An amendment?
Yes.
It’s a person, not a bill.

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I vote to amend a tattoo to Darth’s face.

48 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:32:31am

re: #46 Schadenboner

What is this, I don’t even…

CommuNazi.

49 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:33:09am

re: #39 The War TARDIS

Livin’ on a Prayer has made it back into the Billboard Hot 100, Taking 25th Spot for this last week.

Why?

50 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:33:20am

Muslo-atheist.

51 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:33:50am

re: #46 Schadenboner

Marxofascist

What is this, I don’t even…

Political philosophy, Blutarsky Freeper style.

52 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:34:25am
53 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:34:39am

re: #50 erik_t

Muslo-atheist.

Communislam

54 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:35:02am

re: #48 Varek Raith
HeathenWeasel…

55 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:35:15am

re: #51 Lidane

Political philosophy, Blutarsky Freeper style.

They comprehend political worldviews other than their own the same way Germans conjugate complex words.

BETTER LUMP ALL THIS SHIT TOGETHER WHAT RUSH TOLD ME WE DON’T LIKE

56 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:35:47am
57 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:36:13am

re: #11 Targetpractice

Please have all the updings for pointing that out.

58 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:36:19am
59 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:37:43am
60 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:38:43am
61 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:39:07am
62 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:40:22am
“I’d be looking to change the subject just as Senate Democrats have been doing with their threats of going nuclear and changing the Senate rules on nominations,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said on the floor before the vote. “Millions of Americans are hurting because of a law Washington Democrats forced upon them, and what do they do about it? They cook up some fake fight over judges that aren’t even needed.
talkingpointsmemo.com

Groan.

63 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:40:44am

Seems Harry finally found his spine:

Reid: If McConnell Wants To Kill The Filibuster, ‘Let Him Do It’

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) brushed off Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) threats earlier this year to eliminate the filibuster entirely if and when he comes to power, should Democrats invoke the nuclear option.

“Let him do it,” Reid told reporters in response to a question from TPM at a press conference after Democrats took the historic step Thursday to end filibusters for executive and non-Supreme Court judicial nominees.

Earlier in June, the when Democrats threatened to go nuclear (but never pulled the trigger), McConnell warned that if this majority weakens the filibuster for nominees, his Republican majority would end it for legislation.

“There is not a doubt in my mind that if the majority breaks the rules of the Senate to change the rules of the Senate with regard to nominations, the next majority will do it for everything. … I wouldn’t be able to argue, a year and a half from now if I were the majority leader, to my colleagues that we shouldn’t enact our legislative agenda with a simple 51 votes, having seen what the previous majority just did. I mean there would be no rational basis for that.”

Reid was asked if he was worried about a future GOP majority ending the filibuster for legislation or Supreme Court nominees, as Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) threatened on Thursday.

“Let them do it,” Reid said. “Why in the world would we care?”

McConnell mourned the demise of the filibuster on Thursday. He wouldn’t reiterate his threats to retalite after Democrats changed the rules, saying only that he looks forward to the mid-term elections.

“I think it’s a day to be sad,” he said. “We look forward to having a great election in 2014.”

64 leftynyc  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:40:54am

re: #39 The War TARDIS

Good news for Bon Jovi Fans like me.

Livin’ on a Prayer has made it back into the Billboard Hot 100, Taking 25th Spot for this last week.

Did you see the video of that fan? It was awesome.

65 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:41:21am
66 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:41:33am

re: #62 jaunte

Groan.

“Aren’t even needed, but we’ll filibuster them anyway because allowing simple majority to put them on the bench would be a ‘power grab.’”

67 leftynyc  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:43:01am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

Why?

Check out the video at this link:

b96.cbslocal.com

68 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:43:04am

re: #65 Charles Johnson

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“Just you wait! When we take over again, we’ll totally do what we were going to do anyway!!!”

69 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:43:44am

re: #68 GeneJockey

“Just you wait! When we take over again, we’ll totally do what we were going to do anyway!!!”

With even meaner faces!

70 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:45:22am

McConnell in short: Look what you’re going to make us do when (if) we get power!

More crocodile tears from the eternal victims.

71 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:46:14am
72 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:46:25am
73 theliel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:46:47am

re: #41 Weet

Levin needs to be primaried, badly. He got up and made his little speech about how horrible it was that Democrats got rid of the filibuster of Presidential appointments. He did this within minutes after the vote was taken.

Levin is retiring. He gives absolutely 0 fucks.

And yes - Anyone who didn’t think that Majority Leader McConnel’s first move was going to be murdering the filibuster is either lying or a moron.

74 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:47:57am
75 The War TARDIS  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:48:58am

re: #49 Dr. Matt

This guy.

Youtube Video

76 The War TARDIS  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:50:44am

re: #44 Kragar

Oh, so you are THAT guy.

77 SpaceJesus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:51:59am

re: #56 Charles Johnson

BLACK MAN IN WHITE HOUSE HOLY SHIT RED BUTTON RED BUTTON

78 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:52:03am
79 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:53:02am

McConnell: Senate Republicans have been “very, very fair to this President.”
crooksandliars.com

Erm.

80 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:53:31am

re: #79 jaunte

I just threw up in my mouth

81 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:54:22am

re: #79 jaunte

Mcconnell: “Senate Republicans have been “very, very fair” to this President.”
crooksandliars.com

Erm.

Youtube Video

82 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:55:44am

re: #79 jaunte

McConnell: Senate Republicans have been “very, very fair to this President.”
crooksandliars.com

Erm.

What kind of jacked up definition of “Fair” do you have to be using to make such a statement even remotely realistic?

83 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:55:56am

re: #72 Kragar

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Ahh, screw the whole thing!

84 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:56:24am

re: #71 Lidane

Ruined the bipartisany bipartisanship of all of Washington which has been awesomely bipartisan and nonpartisan for years. //

85 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:56:29am

re: #82 Eclectic Cyborg

What kind of jacked up definition of “Fair” do you have to be using to make such a statement even remotely realistic?

“We let him actually become President and haven’t really tried to impeach him yet. What more do you want?”

86 Weet  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:57:43am

re: #73 theliel

Levin is retiring. He gives absolutely 0 fucks.

And yes - Anyone who didn’t think that Majority Leader McConnel’s first move was going to be murdering the filibuster is either lying or a moron.

Thanks for info. Why in the fuck would he give that speech? Has he gone daft? He’s against Gillibrand’s military assault prevention bill also.

87 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:59:07am

re: #62 jaunte

“Millions of Americans are hurting because of a law Washington Democrats forced upon them

And millions are getting insurance for the first time. And the other so called millions hurting aren’t hurting at all. Now go STFU.

88 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 11:59:34am
89 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:00:08pm

re: #88 jaunte

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Lol

90 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:00:14pm

America awaits OSarah bin Palin’s word salad retort on filibuster reform.

91 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:00:18pm

TEH BUTTHURT

92 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:01:06pm

re: #91 Learned Pie Of Zion

TEH BUTTHURT

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PROJECTION

93 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:01:26pm
94 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:01:54pm

re: #90 Dr. Matt

Mr. Obama threatened filibuster to shutdown the government and interfere with healthcare law and the courts and not enough nominees and the healthcare reform.

95 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:02:45pm

re: #90 Dr. Matt

harry reid says mean things about me and declares a war on Christmas and Christians with the filibuster reform.

96 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:03:45pm

Neocon tears are the sweetest tears of all. I thought you guys supported democracy. Daaawwww.

97 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:03:48pm
98 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:04:26pm

Lol, GOP.
You brought this on yourselves.
Fucking morans.

99 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:05:09pm

re: #96 MarxoFascist Agenda

And to think I got up this morning with no idea how much joy was to come our way.

100 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:05:24pm

But we’re supposed to believe that, were we talking President Romney and Senate Majority Leader McConnell, this never would have happened?

Bull. Also shit.

101 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:05:59pm

re: #96 MarxoFascist Agenda

Actually since Congress is rarely in session not many people would miss them.

102 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:06:40pm

I think this is a good idea for both sides in the long run. I think a President should have the right to put together his vision of the Government with appointments. We get to judge their vision every 4 years. enough of this shit taking 3 years to appoint a judge. It’s stupid politically.

103 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:07:24pm

re: #96 MarxoFascist Agenda

Does he know that committees vote by majority rule?

104 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:07:24pm
105 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:09:11pm

If we act fast we might be able to completely destroy Christmas while the GOP is still reeling from this blow.

106 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:11:50pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

If we act fast we might be able to completely destroy Christmas while the GOP is still reeling from this blow.

The boys will be home for Christmas!

///

107 Ming  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:12:09pm

Normally, when you choose a drastic option, you wonder how your opponent will respond. In this case, I don’t think the Democrats have anything to worry about, because the Republicans have ALREADY gone nuclear. How else would you describe almost breaching the debt ceiling? Even now, it’s possible that there may be another government shutdown / debt ceiling dance in January and February.

So this is one case when the Democrats can “escalate” without fear of “reprisal”. The Republicans are ALREADY reprising as much as they can!

108 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:12:17pm

LAUGHABLE! The Party that has been gerrymandering Congressional districts for decades is “outraged” over a simple majority vote.

109 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:13:19pm

re: #107 Ming

Normally, when you choose a drastic option, you wonder how your opponent will respond. In this case, I don’t think the Democrats have anything to worry about, because the Republicans have ALREADY gone nuclear. How else would you describe almost breaching the debt ceiling? Even now, it’s possible that there may be another government shutdown / debt ceiling dance in January and February.

So this is one case when the Democrats can “escalate” without fear of “reprisal”. The Republicans are ALREADY reprising as much as they can!

Seriously. The GOP has been in scorched-Earth mode since Obama won.

110 theliel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:13:19pm

re: #86 Weet

Thanks for info. Why in the fuck would he give that speech? Has he gone daft? He’s against Gillibrand’s military assault prevention bill also.

Because he’s Old School. Guys a bajillionty years old. I’ve met him a few times (Point of Light things for Boy Scouts) and he was always fairly reasonable but he’s committed to some old ideas about being able to trust human decency.

Which is find and all, except when you have people who have proven that they are utterly without it - then you need to put some boots on necks.

111 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:14:06pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

The boys will be home for Christmas!

///

Then it’s onto the war on Easter! You go to war with the army you have not the one you have.

112 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:14:17pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

If we act fast we might be able to completely destroy Christmas while the GOP is still reeling from this blow.

Light the Beacons! We must signal Kwanzaa and Hannukah to rendezvous with the Winter Solstice, so we can ride against Christmas at full strength!

113 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:14:26pm

re: #105 Charles Johnson

If we act fast we might be able to completely destroy Christmas while the GOP is still reeling from this blow.

I think we should start referring to it as ‘Obamaukkah’. HAPPY Obamaukkah everyone!!! Tis the season to be a moocher!

114 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:15:02pm

Elf seeking missiles for everyone!

115 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:17:20pm

re: #107 Ming

Normally, when you choose a drastic option, you wonder how your opponent will respond. In this case, I don’t think the Democrats have anything to worry about, because the Republicans have ALREADY gone nuclear. How else would you describe almost breaching the debt ceiling? Even now, it’s possible that there may be another government shutdown / debt ceiling dance in January and February.

So this is one case when the Democrats can “escalate” without fear of “reprisal”. The Republicans are ALREADY reprising as much as they can!

Reid’s shown infinite fucking patience for GOP shenanigans, time and again working “deals” that fell through as soon as the GOP decided that it was politically advantageous to return to their old ways. Just the start of this year, we had another deal meant to allow votes on nominees that Reid worked on the grounds that support for the nuclear option was “wavering.” All he ever got for those deals was a handful of votes on nominees and the undying ire of his own party’s base.

Let today be a sign of things to come.

116 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:17:46pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt
Well played sir, well played.

This almost makes me want to make Obamaukkah cards for my idiot wingnut family members. Hee.

117 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:19:10pm

I want to be appointed Grinch-Marshall in Chief for the coming campaign.

118 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:19:30pm
119 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:22:21pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I think we should start referring to it as ‘Obamaukkah’. HAPPY Obamaukkah everyone!!! Tis the season to be a moocher!

I would so Tweet that, except that the wingnuts would take it seriously.

120 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:22:27pm

re: #79 jaunte

McConnell: Senate Republicans have been “very, very fair to this President.”
crooksandliars.com

Erm.

And Reid’s been way more than fair to the Republicans. He should have done this 4 years ago.

121 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:22:33pm
122 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:23:57pm

Republicans love Christmas because of the juxtaposition of Christian symbolism with an unrestrained orgy of greed and materialism.
It is a perfect metaphor for their world view.

123 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:24:31pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I think we should start referring to it as ‘Obamaukkah’. HAPPY Obamaukkah everyone!!! Tis the season to be a moocher!

KwObamzaa.

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:25:12pm

heh…

Beaver saves doe from certain death by stealing hunter’s gun

Nathan Baron was relaxing over the weekend, sitting in a chair in the woods and tracking a doe with his Remington rifle when, suddenly, nature called. The Maine high school student left the gun resting against the chair, ran back home to do his business, and arrived just in time to see something he didn’t expect to see: a beaver stealing the rifle. “There was a stream … about 100 feet away from me,” he told Bangor Daily News. “I look and there’s a beaver hauling that gun into the water. There was nothing I could do … the beaver went under. That was it.”

125 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:25:21pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

The boys will be home for Christmas!

///

Hey..As I’m moving up to the North Woods I went out and bought a gun.
It’s a really cool black AK-63. 7.62x39mm w/600 round per minute fire rate.
Lawdy help the bear that comes up to my door.. ( I’ll miss but should scare the hell out of him ) I don’t hunt or shoot anything..:)

126 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:25:25pm

re: #96 MarxoFascist Agenda

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Neocon tears are the sweetest tears of all. I thought you guys >supported democracy. Daaawwww.

Image: neocon tears.jpg

127 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:26:06pm

re: #125 HoosierHoops

Hey..As I’m moving up to the North Woods I went out and bought a gun.
It’s a really cool black AK-63. 7.62x39mm w/600 round per minute fire rate.
Lawdy help the bear that comes up to my door.. ( I’ll miss but should scare the hell out of him ) I don’t hunt or shoot anything..:)

heh…see my post at #124. Forewarned and all that…

128 ObserverArt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:26:11pm

Snakes be all restless today. A whole lot of worked up slithering back and forth, crawling all over each other going nowhere. Hisssss. Ratttttlllleeeee.

Will there be a big problem on the horizon though? Will this cause the Republicans to bully back they only way they can? Come January and we go back into budget/debt talks and it would not surprise me one bit if they go back to closing the government talk. And it will be under cover of this “criminal undemocratic senate takeover of government and law” to feed that base that is going to want payback for this day.

I hope not, but I can’t see why they won’t be forced to try.

129 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:26:36pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

Beaver saves doe from certain death by stealing hunter’s gun

Nice Beaver!

130 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:26:46pm
131 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:28:25pm

I honestly never have liked Christmas. It is always cold, the sniffles are a definite risk, the traffic is awful, I have to either endure the presence of obnoxious relatives or weasel out of participating, and I can’t get any normal shopping done because the greed-crazed mobs are swarming through every possible venue. To top it all, every business and service in town is disrupted for a month before the big day. It is an insane farce.

132 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:28:31pm
133 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:28:35pm
134 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:29:33pm

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel

I honestly never have liked Christmas. It is always cold, the sniffles are a definite risk, the traffic is awful, I have to either endure the presence of obnoxious relatives or weasel out of participating, and I can’t get any normal shopping done because the greed-crazed mobs are swarming through every possible venue. To top it all, every business and service in town is disrupted for a month before the big day. It is an insane farce.

I feel the same way about sporting events and parades.

I grew up in Pasadena. I fucking hated that god dam Parade.

135 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:30:29pm
136 ObserverArt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:30:58pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

Beaver saves doe from certain death by stealing hunter’s gun

Those old cartoons were right all along, the animals are smarter than the humans*


*Based on the their relatively small brains they can actually use along with being industrious.

137 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:31:33pm

re: #124 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

Beaver saves doe from certain death by stealing hunter’s gun

Next up: Bears Discover Fire. The crunch will come with the next step after that, Bears Discover FirePOWER. Bryan Fischer would shit himself.

138 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:32:11pm

The filibuster is a tyranny of the minority in action. A minority of the Chamber (the Senate) can prevent action by the majority. A filibuster could have its place in a Senate that worked and actually adhered to the notion that advise and consent means…. well… advise and consent … instead of thwart and prevent.

Judicial nominees and nominees in general are being blocked by this reactionary GOP because they hate the President and are doing everything in their power to prevent his policy agenda from moving forward. They also know the power that judicial nominees hold and that over time they can sway national discourse (like say on gay marriage, abortion, and other hot button subjects).

Keeping vacancies open undermines judicial administration and means that cases aren’t being addressed in a timely manner. Add the administration positions that the Senate has been refusing to fill because of the filibuster, and you’ve got the GOP party of no by any means possible.

This vote takes away the “filibuster” on certain nominees and certain other specific types of actions. If the GOP still doesn’t like a particular nominee, they can still vote NO, but we’d see just how they stack up and that it’s all partisan hackery on their part.

That isn’t to say that the GOP can’t benefit from this either - as in some time in the dystopian future when the GOP regains control over the Senate but not with a 60+ majority, they could move their nominees through despite opposition from the Democrats.

It works both ways, and in a normally functioning political environment, comity of this sort would rule the day.

But this isn’t a normally functioning political environment. The GOP is engaged in an all-out assault on this President and his agenda by any means necessary, and is poisoning the discourse going forward.

139 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:33:37pm

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel

I honestly never have liked Christmas. It is always cold, the sniffles are a definite risk, the traffic is awful, I have to either endure the presence of obnoxious relatives or weasel out of participating, and I can’t get any normal shopping done because the greed-crazed mobs are swarming through every possible venue. To top it all, every business and service in town is disrupted for a month before the big day. It is an insane farce.

seriously, the pilgrim fathers would be horrified to see our celebration of what we call “christmas”

140 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:33:48pm

re: #131 Shiplord Kirel
I was OK with it til my kids got older and the rift in my birth family just became ridiculously huge. It’s a long story, but The Husband, The Teenager and myself have spent every holiday with just us since The Teenager was The Kid, no one can be bothered with us on either side of the family. I get sick of all the happy clappy pictures and showing off of gifts and crap. I used to plaster a smile on my face and be Santa’s Little Helper, but I’m over it. This year we have no money really, so it’s not going to be happyhappyhappypresentseverywhere. Which is fine by me, but I still hate the expectations and crap this time of year brings.

Oh, and get off my lawn and BAH HUMBUG!

141 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:34:05pm

I think it’s funny the Republicans are getting upset because this move will apparently “allow the majority to do what they want”.

That’s kind of the idea, that’s why they’re a MAJORITY.

142 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:34:09pm

Along the same line:

Youtube Video
Cows with Guns

143 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:35:13pm

I just wish Obama’s press conference consisted of him saying, “Word.”; dropping the mic; and then smacking Chuck Todd in the back of the head on the way out.

144 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:35:41pm

as we approach the 50th anniversary of one of the most horrifying events in our nation’s history, here is how my favorite wingnut blogger is celebrating it:

Check out how minimal the Harvard application was that JFK had to fill out in order to get into Harvard. All he had to write was a rather vacuous five-sentence paragraph about why he wanted to go there.

by taking a dump on him

charming, as usual

145 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:35:44pm

re: #119 Learned Pie Of Zion

I would so Tweet that, except that the wingnuts would take it seriously.

All the better reason to do so. :)

146 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:36:04pm

re: #139 dog philosopher

seriously, the pilgrim fathers would be horrified to see our celebration of what we call “christmas”

“Back on the boats kids!”

147 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:37:19pm

foxed up news has the screaming headline

RAW POWER GRAB

148 jvic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:37:28pm

re: #128 ObserverArt

Will there be a big problem on the horizon though? Will this cause the Republicans to bully back they only way they can? Come January and we go back into budget/debt talks and it would not surprise me one bit if they go back to closing the government talk. And it will be under cover of this “criminal undemocratic senate takeover of government and law” to feed that base that is going to want payback for this day.

I hope not, but I can’t see why they won’t be forced to try.

A series of unforced errors by the party in power has given the Stupid Party a chance to get up off the canvas. They need a way to make those opportunities backfire. Shutting down the government is a promising recourse, especially if they’re tone-deaf and abrasive enough about it.

149 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:37:43pm

re: #138 lawhawk

I have to disagree in that I do think the filibuster has a place in functional government, but not as we understand it today. We’ve had generations of Americans growing up to Mr Smith Goes To Washington and assuming when the media talks about a filibuster, that’s what’s going on. But today’s filibusters are nothing like they were in the days of yore, as the “two-track system” of allowing the Senate go forward with other business while a bill is filibustered, and then the rule change to dispense with the “standing filibuster” in exchange for a motion to do so being treated as such, has rendered the filibuster just another legislative tool that is susceptible to abuse.

150 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:37:54pm

re: #145 Dr. Matt

All the better reason to do so. :)

saw your tweet and had to RT.

151 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:37:56pm
152 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:38:37pm

re: #141 Eclectic Cyborg

I think it’s funny the Republicans are getting upset because this move will apparently “allow the majority to do what they want”.

That’s kind of the idea, that’s why they’re a MAJORITY.

That sounds like something a libtard would say.

///////////

153 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:39:11pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I think we should start referring to it as ‘Obamaukkah’. HAPPY Obamaukkah everyone!!! Tis the season to be a moocher!

Benghazaukkah!

154 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:40:32pm

re: #149 Targetpractice

The filibuster is supposed to stop things that are passing without enough debate. That purpose is a good one. It hasn’t been used for that in a dog’s age.

155 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:41:03pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

I think we should start referring to it as ‘Obamaukkah’. HAPPY Obamaukkah everyone!!! Tis the season to be a moocher!

Quick, get Adam Sandler on the phone, we need a theme song!

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:41:07pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel

Next up: Bears Discover Fire. The crunch will come with the next step after that, Bears Discover Fire>POWER. Bryan Fischer would shit himself.

Bears revolt at Yellowstone - demand more dakka!
;)

157 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:41:44pm

re: #137 Shiplord Kirel

Next up: Bears Discover Fire. The crunch will come with the next step after that, Bears Discover Fire>POWER. Bryan Fischer would shit himself.

Image: bears_with_guns.jpg

158 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:42:45pm

re: #157 MarxoFascist Agenda

Image: bears_with_guns.jpg

We must never surrender the right to keep and arm bears.

159 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:43:14pm
160 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:44:02pm

re: #154 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

The filibuster is supposed to stop things that are passing without enough debate. That purpose is a good one. It hasn’t been used for that in a dog’s age.

Exactly, it was meant to allow dissenting Senators the opportunity to make their opinion heard, if not the possibility of swaying wavering votes against the bill. Instead, it’s just become something that the minority party increasingly abuses in the hopes that the next major election will sweep them back into the majority…only to find their own hands tied.

161 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:44:23pm

re: #56 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Some things to take from that chart:

1) Clinton was filibustered 9 times. Both Bushes and the Christ Reagan were filibustered 9 times.

2) The three most recent Democratic Presidents were filibustered more times than the previous five GOP Presidents by a factor of four.

3) Imagine what Obama could have accomplished with a true bipartisan legislative branch.

4) Republicans have a huge fucking problem with a black man being president.*

*Any conservatives looking for an apology can go pound sand. As a group, it grinds your chastity belt that one of those people are running things.

162 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:44:59pm
163 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:46:23pm

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

“So this is how Democracy dies…..to wild applause.”

hahahahaahaha

164 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:46:44pm

re: #147 dog philosopher

foxed up news has the screaming headline

RAW POWER GRAB

Joan Walsh:

Grassley really has himself to blame: by crusading against Obama’s right to fill vacancies in the crucial but conservative-dominated D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, brazenly calling it “court-packing,” he finally convinced moderate Democrats that they were dealing with unreasonable power-mad adversaries.
salon.com

165 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:47:28pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

hahahahaahaha

Exhibit A on why I don’t read Raw Story anymore.

166 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:48:14pm

re: #161 Mattand

Some things to take from that chart:

1) Clinton was filibustered 9 times. Both Bushes and the Christ Reagan were filibustered 9 times.

2) The three most recent Democratic Presidents were filibustered than the previous five GOP Presidents by a factor of four.

3) Imagine what Obama could have accomplished with a true bipartisan legislative branch.

4) Republicans have a huge fucking problem with a black man being president.*

*Any conservatives looking for an apology can go pound sand. As a group, it grinds your chastity belt that one of those people are running things.

Hell, imagine an Obama presidency in absence of the filibuster and its bastardized cousin the “Hastert Rule.”

167 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:48:29pm

Worst. Marxofascist. EVAR.

168 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:49:18pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

hahahahaahaha

I thought democracy died in 2008?

169 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:49:29pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

hahahahaahaha

So that makes the commenter Queen Amiga Amygdala Amidah Amidala?

…ewwwww.

170 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:50:36pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

hahahahaahaha

And the quote is wrong.

171 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:52:25pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

That’s a bastardized quote from the prequel trilogy that weird, Star Wars-style mass hallucination we all had. Ergo, it’s not Star Wars.

172 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:54:44pm

re: #147 dog philosopher

foxed up news has the screaming headline

RAW POWER GRAB

Iggy Pop, call your lawyer.

173 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:55:59pm

re: #171 Lidane

That’s a bastardized quote from the prequel trilogy that weird, Star Wars-style mass hallucination we all had. Ergo, it’s not Star Wars.

People keep talking about the “New Star Wars” movies. I don’t get it. 1983 was like 30 years ago.

…unless the Star Wars Holiday Special is *finally* getting the remastered BluRay release it deserves, nay, demands?

Same thing with this “New Indiana Jones movie”. I guess they must mean “Young Indiana Jones”?

Oh the kids today and their strange habit of naming things the wrong things!

Also, get *OFF* my damn lawn. I have a bear with a FN FAL over here. I’m not kidding.

174 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:58:01pm

re: #173 MarxoFascist Agenda

People keep talking about the “New Star Wars” movies. I don’t get it. 1983 was like 30 years ago.

Heh. Pretty much,

Also, Han shot first. I don’t give a damn what Lucas says about it now.

175 jvic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:10:59pm

No, this one step isn’t the end of American democracy.

That said, I would feel much less uneasy if the tone on the Left was It’s too bad we had to do this.

In a diverse democratic republic, winner-take-all politics is not indefinitely sustainable. At some point something will give. Hopefully, but not necessarily, it will be the way politics is conducted.

176 Jack Burton  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:36:31pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

And the quote is wrong.

Now they are using fake quotes not from Founding Fathers, but from Star Wars…. Srsly…

177 AlexRogan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:38:38pm

re: #163 Dr. Matt

True story. A teatard on Raw Story just quoted Star Wars regarding the filibuster reform:

hahahahaahaha

They couldn’t even get the quote right…

178 Ming  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:49:10pm

re: #138 lawhawk

I’m especially concerned about the vacancies on the Federal Courts of Appeal. Obama really needs to get judges in there ASAP.


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