Reid Goes Nuclear, Right Wing Whining Reaches Fever Pitch

“These are Nazi Fruit People.”
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Denizens of the frenzied underworld of right wing blogs are completely and totally losing their shit today over Harry Reid’s use of the “nuclear option” to put a (partial) end to the GOP’s frantic, crazed obstructionism. Thousands upon thousands of raging, randomly capitalized and punctuated comments about tyranny and communism and anarchy and socialism and Muslims and treason and Nazi Fruit People … wait, what?

Breitbart “News” is always a good place for this kind of stuff, and any connoisseur of fine whines will discover plenty to enjoy today: NUCLEAR: REID, DEMOCRATS DESTROY FILIBUSTER, 52-48!!!

These are Nazi Fruit People. You Liberals better wakeup because the Democratic party
is following the same agenda and taking the same road has Hitler and the National Socicalist Workers Party.

[…]

Challenge them via the courts, it’s clear Obama and his regime consider themselves absolute rulers of America. Sicking watching them take power that doesn’t belong to them, evil corrupt regime.

[…]

Fuhrer Obama transforming America.

[…]

So this is how the 2 nd. American Civil War starts….True Americans against the New Socialist Progressive Democratic Party.

If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns…..Democrats gave up their FREEDOM for their Messiah President Blamer.

[…]

Just one more nail in the coffin of representative government and one step closer to the dictatorship our “leader” has had in mind since the beginning of his regime. His is approaching his dream of a 3rd, 4th, and even 5th and 6th term at the “top”. Maybe this is 1000 year Reich that someone in history had predicted.

[…]

The Obama NAZIS have made a power grab, and the people of the United States of America have less power today than they had yesterday. Barack Obama’s celebrating his power grab by laughing in the media right in your faces, Americans may be too dumb stupid to even know that’s what’s just happened. What’s been ripped apart is the meaning and glory of an America that once stood for something. Now the US stands for nothing. The people are made losers by their servants. An American sellout from an American President and American Senate.

[…]

DINGY HARRY WITH HIS FACE SO SCROTAL,
QUISLING OBAMMER ,A BUNGHOLE TOTAL,
THEY SOLD OUT THE REPUBLIC, IT IS CLEAR,
TO THE COLLECTIVIST STATE THEY DO ADHERE,
NOW’S THE TIME FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO POSTAL.

[…]

the time is growing closer when we will have to decide is it time to take our country back, tyranny unleashed can only be stopped one way

[…]

Will someone please get rid of this anus on the behind of Obama.
This big pustual of yellow puss needs to be eradicated from the face of the United States Senate.

Hard to top that one! But it goes on and on for more than a thousand comments in this vein.

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491 comments
1 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:51:29pm

…at least they’re being kind enough to lay out clear reasons why this was necessary.

2 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:51:39pm
What’s been ripped apart is the meaning and glory of an America that once stood for something. Now the US stands for nothing. The people are made losers by their servants.

Wow, he must have really been a superfan of the DC circuit court.

3 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:51:54pm

When GWB was in the White House, here’s what conservatives had to say about the nuclear option:

Rush Limbaugh: “The Constitution Says Nothing About This. The Constitution Says Simple Majority, 51 Votes.

Sean Hannity: “I Believe It’s Unconstitutional To Filibuster.”

Wall Street Journal: Using Nuclear Option Is Better Than Letting “A Willful Minority Deny The President’s Nominees A Vote On The Senate Floor.”

Rich Lowry: Judicial Filibusters Are “A Perversion” Of Traditional Checks And Balances And Should Be Eliminated “Through The So-Called Nuclear Option.”

Karl Rove: “We Believe That Fairness Means That [Nominees] Deserve An Up-Or-Down Vote.”

Bill Kristol: “Congress’ Role In Approving Executive-Branch Nominees Is To Have An Up Or Down Vote.”

Pat Robertson: “These Filibusters Have Been Unconstitutional. And The Senate, I Just Think The Majority Should Say, `Look, We Want An Up And Down Vote.’

4 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:52:16pm

I liked Reid’s response to McConnell threatening to destroy filibusters altogether if/when he takes power…Go for it! That will be your choice. Of course, the catch is McConnell is a ways away from regaining control of the Senate and he knows it…so his empty threats are all he has going for him.

5 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:52:19pm

Some of them are trying to suggest that the GOP take this to the courts. That would be suicidal and is largely why even the TPers aren’t threatening to do so. Even if the court ruled that the rule change was unconstitutional, it runs the very real risk of all ruling that the filibuster itself is also unconstitutional. After all, nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the minority party has the right to obstruct as much as possible the business of the Senate. It says the Senate sets its own rules, and the filibuster is one of them.

6 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:52:38pm

re: #2 jaunte

Wow, he must have really been a superfan of the DC circuit court.

These are the people who translate “needing a majority vote on a nominee” into:

Just one more nail in the coffin of representative government and one step closer to the dictatorship our “leader” has had in mind since the beginning of his regime. His is approaching his dream of a 3rd, 4th, and even 5th and 6th term at the “top”. Maybe this is 1000 year Reich that someone in history had predicted.

7 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:54:15pm

re: #6 klys

approaching his dream of a 3rd, 4th, and even 5th and 6th term at the “top”

That’s one a them asymptotic curves.

8 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:54:18pm

But really, why are the wingnuts worried? They’re sure that they’re headed to a huge electoral victory next November, boosted by fear and hatred of “Obamacare,” and are sure that by this time next year, McConnell will be deciding just which legislation he wants to ram through first. So why are they screaming this is the “end” when they’re sure they’re on the very verge of victory?

9 theliel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:54:51pm

What is this I don’t even.

10 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:55:12pm
11 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:56:27pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

But really, why are the wingnuts worried? They’re sure that they’re headed to a huge electoral victory next November, boosted by fear and hatred of “Obamacare,” and are sure that by this time next year, McConnell will be deciding just which legislation he wants to ram through first. So why are they screaming this is the “end” when they’re sure they’re on the very verge of victory?

Because they know deep-down they’re not going to actually win the Senate next year?

12 theliel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:57:07pm

re: #10 wrenchwench

That’s 42 votes on the Service Lessons for Amenable Employees (SLAVE) act.

13 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:58:08pm

Nazi Fruit people are the worst fruit people.

14 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:58:12pm

re: #12 theliel

That’s 42 votes on the Service Lessons for Amenable Volunteer Employees (SLAVE) act.

FTFY

15 theliel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:58:51pm

re: #14 wrenchwench

D’OH! That’s what I get for trying to be clever & productive at the same time.

16 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:59:14pm

re: #15 theliel

D’OH! That’s what I get for trying to be clever & productive at the same time.

Eh, forget the productive part. We’re more fun.

17 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:59:19pm

Once again, we find that the definition of “representative government” on the right is actually “vanguard of white conservative Christian men”.

It’s kind of like how North Korea’s definition of “people’s democratic republic” is “personal plaything of the Kim family”.

18 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:59:34pm

re: #13 Kragar

Nazi Fruit people are the worst fruit people.

Are they like the Fruit of the Loom people, only scratchy?

19 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 12:59:49pm

re: #4 darthstar

I liked Reid’s response to McConnell threatening to destroy filibusters altogether if/when he takes power…Go for it! That will be your choice. Of course, the catch is McConnell is a ways away from regaining control of the Senate and he knows it…so his empty threats are all he has going for him.

McConnell is going to have trouble of his own getting to stay in the Senate.

20 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:00:31pm
If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns

Yawn…..

21 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:01:26pm

I guess in Congress now it’s the NAZI FRUIT people vs the FROOT LOOPS.

22 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:01:44pm

A freely and fairly elected body ruling by majority vote - TOTALITARIANISM!!!

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:02:02pm

re: #20 Ian G.

Yawn…..

That’s why librulz are the ones doing all the mass shootings…
//

24 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:03:00pm

re: #20 Ian G.

If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns

Yawn…..

Eh, the law of averages says that at least 60% of them will shoot each other before ever training their sights on a Dem.

25 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:03:31pm

Another victim of the Filibuster’s demise…

26 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:03pm

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27 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:12pm

Sounds like none of these folks were around when the GOP recently threatened to drop the nuke unless Senate Dems stopped filibustering, which they did.

28 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:25pm

re: #26 Mattand

Eh, the law of averages says that at least 60% of them will shoot each other before ever training their sights on a Dem.

The other 40% can be lured into a deep pit with a speaker loudly playing a Fox News feed.

29 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:36pm

I won’t lie, I really dig the limerick. Far more cerebral than I expected from the Freepers.

30 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:40pm

re: #25 darthstar

More Obama failure….

/

31 Internet Tough Guy  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:04:57pm
Nazi Fruit people are the worst fruit people.

LEAF = HITLER

32 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:05:22pm

re: #20 Ian G.

I thought we had all the gunz and were crazily shooting people and being violent from watching all the video games?

33 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:05:28pm
34 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:05:53pm
If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns

Once you get into a gun collection you soon realize the real trick is having more than two hands.

35 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:05:54pm
36 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:05:58pm

re: #13 Kragar

Nazi Fruit people are the worst fruit people.

I love Nazi Fruit on my commie corn flakes. hmmmmmm

37 EmmaAnne  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:06:34pm

I doubt that the average voter will notice this or care if they do. If it does seem to be affecting voter attitudes, the Dems can make some ads of the Republicans chanting “up or down vote” and be done with it.

38 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:06:44pm

re: #3 Dr. Matt

When GWB was in the White House, here’s what conservatives had to say about the nuclear option:

History, how the fuck does it work?

39 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:06:45pm

CNN going on and on and on about the Senate rule change. Not a peep about the sudden rule changes made in the House during the shut-down by Boehner and company.

40 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:06:55pm

re: #13 Kragar

Nazi Fruit people are the worst fruit people.

You know who else liked Vitamin C?

41 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:07:06pm
42 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:07:22pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

Without a filibuster on judicial nominees there won’t be any 2014 elections….///

43 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:07:33pm

House GOP change rule giving Cantor sole control over what bills come to floor: *crickets*

Senate Dems change rule allowing them to pass judicial nominees and administration appointees below SCOTUS/Secretary by simple majority vote: POWER GRAB! TYRANNY!! DICTATORSHIP!!!

44 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #8 Targetpractice

But really, why are the wingnuts worried? They’re sure that they’re headed to a huge electoral victory next November, boosted by fear and hatred of “Obamacare,” and are sure that by this time next year, McConnell will be deciding just which legislation he wants to ram through first. So why are they screaming this is the “end” when they’re sure they’re on the very verge of victory?

Because fear of a Black Planet President.

45 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:07:54pm
46 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:08:03pm

re: #40 Mattand

You know who else like Vitamin C?

Well, I thought she was cute.

47 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:08:04pm

re: #5 Targetpractice

Some of them are trying to suggest that the GOP take this to the courts. That would be suicidal and is largely why even the TPers aren’t threatening to do so. Even if the court ruled that the rule change was unconstitutional, it runs the very real risk of all ruling that the filibuster itself is also unconstitutional. After all, nowhere in the Constitution does it say that the minority party has the right to obstruct as much as possible the business of the Senate. It says the Senate sets its own rules, and the filibuster is one of them.

Even our awful (well, “nearly awful”) SCOTUS would read to this point, underline it, and throw the Teahadis out on their stupid tricorn hats.

48 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:08:18pm

re: #20 Ian G.

If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns

Worst example of macho hubris since Little Bighorn….

49 Mattand  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:08:53pm

re: #46 Kragar

Well, I thought she was cute.

???

50 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:08:58pm

re: #46 Kragar

Well, I thought she was cute.

I’m not ashamed to admit I found “Smile” catchy.

51 Ace-o-aces  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:09:13pm

GOP logic
Parliamentary procedure to move along judicial nominations = TYRANNY!!!!!!!

52 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:09:18pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

/42794_Reid_Goes_Nuclear_Right_Wing_Whining_Reaches_Fever_Pitch/comments/#0CmMeyev2CAB52Jf.99

Worst example of macho hubris since Little Bighorn….

Obviously no one informed him that all the spree killers out there were insane violent liberals.

53 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:09:43pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

/42794_Reid_Goes_Nuclear_Right_Wing_Whining_Reaches_Fever_Pitch/comments/#0CmMeyev2CAB52Jf.99

Worst example of macho hubris since Little Bighorn….

“Where did all those liberals get guns from?!”

54 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:11:33pm

re: #45 darthstar

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Some guy in Colorado claimed that his dog “Baxter” somehow got enrolled in Obamacare and the wingnut websites went crazy.

55 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:11:39pm

re: #35 Kragar

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Lol

56 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:12:57pm

The media does remember, doesn’t it, that just a few short years ago the GOP complained incessantly about the need, the moral right, for every judicial nominee to be granted an up or down vote and threatened to go nukeular unless Dems caved? They do remember this, right?

/

57 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:13:18pm
58 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:14:11pm

re: #53 Targetpractice

“Where did all those liberals get guns from?!”

“Hey, Mr. Boehner, I don’t wanna go…”

59 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:14:50pm

re: #54 Backwoods_Sleuth

“millions of Americans all across America are suffering because of Obamacare and dogs are enrolling…wait, whut?”

/

60 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:15:45pm

re: #56 Bulworth

The media does remember, doesn’t it, that just a few short years ago the GOP complained incessantly about the need, the moral right, for every judicial nominee to be granted an up or down vote and threatened to go nukeular unless Dems caved? They do remember this, right?

/

Media can’t remember that the guy today making a big fuss about changes to the filibuster rule declared 4 years ago that it was the job of his party to ensure that the President served only one term.

61 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:16:12pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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My God, it’s full of stars…

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62 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:16:13pm

ja fritz i remember the day that hitler allowed the legislature to approve judges on a majority vote

no i don’t

63 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:16:19pm

re: #56 Bulworth

The media does remember, doesn’t it, that just a few short years ago the GOP complained incessantly about the need, the moral right, for every judicial nominee to be granted an up or down vote and threatened to go nukeular unless Dems caved? They do remember this, right?

/

The GOP’s approach to history is not unlike Oceana’s, frankly.

64 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:16:51pm

nazi fruit

eat it and you vill re-occupy ze rind land

65 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:18:56pm

re: #48 Shiplord Kirel

Nope. Since Macho Grande. You can never get over Macho Grande.

66 Tigger2  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:20:11pm

If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns…..Democrats gave up their FREEDOM for their Messiah President Blamer.


Thats funny I’m a Democrat and I own a few Guns and I know a lot more Dems that own them to, You Teabaggers might just be in for a big surprise.

67 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:21:19pm

Frankly, I’m more afraid of Communist Vegans than of Nazi Fruit People.

Fascist Pasta Patrol?

Monarchist Dessert Party (“Let them eat cake!”)?

68 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:22:46pm
69 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:23:42pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Fascist Pasta Patrol?

Tortellini Totalitarians?

70 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:24:02pm

A lot of butthurt, sound and fury, but no one complaining about “Unconstitutional” because the f0cking filibuster ain’t in the f0cking American Constitution. That must hurt, them not being able to at least fake their concern about The Constitution.

71 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:24:26pm

re: #69 wrenchwench

Tortellini Totalitarians?

Ziti Zealots

72 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:24:54pm

the time is growing closer when we will have to decide is it time to take our country back, tyranny unleashed can only be stopped one way

i think the remote is hidden under your giant bag of cheetoes dude

73 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:25:02pm
74 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:25:15pm

re: #71 Feline Fearless Leader

Ziti Zealots

Granolatarians. Enough said.

75 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:25:24pm

re: #71 Feline Fearless Leader

Ziti Zealots

Ravioli Revanchists.

76 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:25:34pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

Wait… nope. No globular clusters there. Try again /

77 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:26:34pm

re: #57 Charles Johnson

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re: #68 wrenchwench

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We had the sky up there, all speckled with stars, and we used to lay on our backs and look up at them, and discuss about whether they was made or only just happened. Jim he allowed they was made, but I allowed they happened; I judged it would have took too long to MAKE so many. Jim said the moon could a LAID them; well, that looked kind of reasonable, so I didn’t say nothing against it, because I’ve seen a frog lay most as many, so of course it could be done.

Couldn’t find the Bloom County strip of this though. :(

78 Bulworth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:27:17pm

re: #72 dog philosopher

the time is growing closer when we will have to decide is it time to take our country back, tyranny unleashed can only be stopped one way

yes, yes, the time is always getting closer but it never gets here does it? Yawn

79 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:28:44pm

re: #78 Bulworth

yes, yes, the time is always getting closer but it never gets here does it? Yawn

zeno’s revolution?

80 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:29:10pm

Good gawd, there are now death threats directed at Democrats on Yahoo. Idiots,

81 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:29:48pm

re: #73 Kragar

… 300 million lives … 3 nuclear devices…

Nuclear wessels do not work that way! Good night!

82 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:29:52pm

re: #73 Kragar

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Okely dokely kookarino.

83 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:29:53pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Ravioli Revanchists.

Fettuccine Fascists

84 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:30:16pm

Yeah, remember when the Nazis took over? Their chief tools of ascendancy were opposition to the filibuster, and also they had drum circles on the sidewalk in front of Starbucks.

85 Tigger2  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:30:31pm

re: #80 Dr. Matt

Good gawd, there are now death threats directed at Democrats on Yahoo. Idiots,

I’m not a fortune teller but I can see a lot of investigations in some people futures.

86 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:31:40pm

re: #83 Feline Fearless Leader

Cannoli Communists.

87 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:32:53pm

re: #86 A Mom Anon

Cannoli Communists.

Macaroni Monarchists!

:)

88 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:33:46pm

Sopapilla Separatists.

89 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:34:29pm

Gnocchi gendarmes.

90 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:34:59pm

Phritatta Phalangists.

91 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:35:09pm

Cavatappi Corporativists?

92 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:35:39pm

Agave Guerrillas

93 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:35:54pm

Tiramisu Trotskyites.

94 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:37:44pm
95 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:38:45pm

Fusilli Falangists

96 Decatur Deb  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:39:18pm

Having a nun to dinner tonight, serving planked salmon just in case. Wife says I must practice tact for the rest of the afternoon. BBL

97 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:39:23pm

Spätzle Stratocrats

98 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:40:28pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Having a nun to dinner tonight, serving planked salmon just in case. Wife says I must practice tact for the rest of the afternoon. BBL

Do you practice tact by putting lead weights on your tongue so that you have to work harder to wag it without thinking?
:)

99 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:40:32pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Having a nun to dinner tonight, serving planked salmon just in case. Wife says I must practice tact for the rest of the afternoon. BBL

So that means you can’t call for body shots off your wife *or* the nun?

That just seems overly harsh.

100 leftynyc  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:40:37pm

re: #66 Tigger2

If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns…..Democrats gave up their FREEDOM for their Messiah President Blamer.

Thats funny I’m a Democrat and I own a few Guns and I know a lot more Dems that own them to, You Teabaggers might just be in for a big surprise.

Shhhh - I like them thinking they’re the only armed ones.

101 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:43:52pm

re: #96 Decatur Deb

Having a nun to dinner tonight, serving planked salmon just in case. Wife says I must practice tact for the rest of the afternoon. BBL

I recommend “Stigmata Martyr” by Bauhaus as light dinner music.

102 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:44:25pm

re: #97 Feline Fearless Leader

Spätzle Stratocrats

der fender spätzlecaster?

103 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:44:31pm

re: #101 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I recommend “Stigmata Martyr” by Bauhaus as light dinner music.

Follow it up with Corpus Christi by Type O-Negative?

104 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:44:44pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Fascist Pasta Patrol?

I think you’ll find that the FPP have long since signed on as part of Michael Bloomberg’s Food Police.

//Sorta

105 Whack-A-Mole  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:45:07pm

Lentil Leninists

106 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:45:51pm

re: #102 dog philosopher

der fender spätzlecaster?

Probably some sort of odd multi-barreled gun/cannon from the 30 Years War. One that did not quite work out as well as the inventor throught it would.

107 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:46:45pm
108 Tigger2  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:47:42pm

Super racist white-supremacist Craig Cobb’s house was defaced with racist graffiti.

latimes.com

109 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:48:09pm

“Nazi fruit people”? WTF does that even mean?

110 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:48:40pm

re: #109 CuriousLurker

I think most of us did nazi that coming.

111 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:49:21pm

re: #109 CuriousLurker

“Nazi fruit people”? WTF does that even mean?

I’M ON TO YOU!!!

112 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:49:35pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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GAMERA IS FRIEND TO ALL CHILDREN!

113 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:50:50pm

kittehs!

114 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:52:12pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

kittehs!

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Soon.

115 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:54:36pm
116 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:54:41pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I don’t that would bother him. He knows people compare him to a snapping turtle and I think he actually likes it in some ways.

117 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:55:09pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

kittehs!

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Oh, wow. Beautiful.

118 Varek Raith  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:56:01pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Fuck you Imma turtle!

119 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:57:46pm

re: #109 CuriousLurker

“Nazi fruit people”? WTF does that even mean?

Probably a reference to this: en.wikipedia.org

120 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:58:15pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

kittehs!

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We are going to do a purebred kitty once (all our current cats are adopted from a rescue, and we firmly support them too and generally get the older cats that are harder to adopt out), and it will either be a Maine Coon or a Norwegian Forest Cat.

121 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 1:58:52pm

re: #115 Charles Johnson

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Given how those turkey’s are bred and raised, the president would be doing the bird a favor by not pardoning it.

He should get a free-range turkey instead.

suntimes.com

122 AlexRogan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:00:43pm

re: #119 jaunte

Probably a reference to this: en.wikipedia.org

“A plant? I thought men like you were usually called a fruit.”

/Clue

123 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:03:40pm

re: #119 jaunte

Probably a reference to this: en.wikipedia.org

Ohhhh. Sheesh.

124 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:05:00pm

re: #68 wrenchwench

Still one of the most incredibly beautiful places I’ve ever been to. However, I didn’t get to see Aurora Borealis while there (August). It’s also one of the less crowded national parks that I’ve been to.

125 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:08:58pm

re: #113 Backwoods_Sleuth

kittehs!

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they look like they’re starring in an anime

126 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:09:08pm

re: #124 Ian G.

Still one of the most incredibly beautiful places I’ve ever been to. However, I didn’t get to see Aurora Borealis while there (August). It’s also one of the less crowded national parks that I’ve been to.

My husband and I rather blithely made arrangements to stay at the lodge on the crater in the middle of June a few years back. (Which, if you ever go, it is totally worth the splurge for the crater-view rooms.)

We hadn’t thought about it (although we should have in retrospect) but it turns out they’d only just opened the south gate for the year about a week before we got there. (Our route would have been a whole lot longer.) Half the rim was still not ready for cars.

It was still a great time. We did Mt. St. Helens that trip too and the weather played the most delightful games with us - all foggy and low hanging clouds as we were driving up and went into the visitor’s center and then things cleared while we were watching the introductory film. So my first view of it was spectacularly frames with the low clouds all around but a gorgeous clearing and sunbeams on the volcano itself, white and gray and yellow streaked. And then it proceeded to snow/hail on us while we did one of the short hikes. :)

127 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:10:43pm

Here’s a metric ton of quotes from Republican senators on the utter importance of up or down votes for judicial nominees.

(It’s from DU, but it’s the best collection of quotes I could find.)

128 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:13:40pm

re: #127 makeitstop

Sen. Mitch McConnell
“Let’s get back to the way the Senate operated for over 200 years, up or down votes on the president’s nominee, no matter who the president is, no matter who’s in control of the Senate. That’s the way we need to operate.”

Ha. And now he’s all verklempt.

129 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:15:10pm

Got a live one here

130 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:15:56pm

I think this next gadget is kind of neat, but others likely won’t:

Tac-Con 3MR rapid-fire non-NFA trigger for ARs (VIDEO)

New firm Tactical Fire Control, Inc., or just Tac-Con for short, has developed a very interesting new trigger that lets people shoot AR rifle very, very fast.

The trigger has three settings, safe, semi-automatic and a sort of reset-assist setting which is simply called “3rd Mode.” In 3rd Mode the trigger uses some of the energy from the closing bolt carrier to reset with force, enough force to reset the trigger even with some finger pressure on it.

This speeds up the rate at which a user can pull the trigger. A lot. But it isn’t a full-auto trigger, and technically it’s not even a bump-fire trigger.

According to Tac-Con the trigger is ATF-compliant and they aren’t covered under the NFA. This is because the legal definition of a machine gun or any select-fire firearm of any type is a gun that fires more than one round with one pull of the trigger. The Tac-Con 3MR requires that the user pull the trigger once for each shot.

Youtube Video

131 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:16:18pm

re: #97 Feline Fearless Leader

Spätzle Stratocrats

Well, isn’t that Spätzle?
//

132 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:17:05pm

re: #129 Kragar

Got a live one here

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Not that it matters, but what’s the context of this?

133 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:17:32pm

re: #107 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Help! I’m being repressed! Come and see the violence inherent in the system!”

134 makeitstop  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:18:40pm

re: #129 Kragar

Got a live one here

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I find it hilarious that ‘Armoured Saint’ has a Twitter handle of ‘@Honeyhugnkisses’

135 Schadenboner  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:18:45pm

re: #132 Ian G.

Not that it matters, but what’s the context of this?

Il n’y a pas de hors-texte, baby.

136 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:19:01pm

re: #132 Ian G.

Not that it matters, but what’s the context of this?

Showed up on a friends twitter feed bashing atheists, saying he was a messenger from God and calling anyone who disagreed with him stupid fags.

137 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:20:58pm
138 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:22:05pm

re: #136 Kragar

Showed up on a friends twitter feed bashing atheists, saying he was a messenger from God and calling anyone who disagreed with him stupid fags.

Because that’s what Jesus would do.

139 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:22:43pm

re: #136 Kragar

Showed up on a friends twitter feed bashing atheists, saying he was a messenger from God and calling anyone who disagreed with him stupid fags.

Because God would totally choose messengers who call people “fags”.

140 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:22:48pm
141 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:23:17pm

re: #129 Kragar

Got a live one here


Riiiiiight. As opposed to the oh-so-eloquent guy in the gold Don Quixote armor who thinks he’s a saint. Uh-huh.

Kinda reminds me of this atheist-hating review I saw on Amazon last night when looking for books on physics. It was hilarious—he even whines about his bad karma, LOL.

142 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:23:33pm

re: #126 klys

I did St. Helens and Crater Lake in the same trip too (in August, so the skies were clear and so were the roads, although there was still some snow in places at Crater Lake). St. Helens is just so raw of an experience with the fallen trees and volcanic dust blowing everywhere as you hike out along Johnston Ridge. Crater Lake was just so much more serene (ironic, given that the eruption that created Crater Lake was something like 100 times more powerful that the 1980 St. Helens eruption).

The two are also linked in my mind by my (now) fiancee’s reaction to them. As we finished the St. Helens hike (no shade, blowing dust, etc.) she whined to me about when we’d be able to sit down and have a Pina Colada. Well, she got her Pina Colada on the patio of the Crater Lake Lodge a few days later. I had a beer.

143 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:24:07pm

re: #138 GeneJockey

Because that’s what Jesus would do.

re: #139 Eclectic Cyborg

Because God would totally choose messengers who call people “fags”.

38 seconds. Kinda.

144 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:24:17pm

re: #130 Dark_Falcon

I think this next gadget is kind of neat, but others likely won’t:

Tac-Con 3MR rapid-fire non-NFA trigger for ARs (VIDEO)

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…so what’s the purpose of something like this? Just trying to figure out if there is one beyond kill things faster.

145 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:27:40pm

re: #142 Ian G.

My now-husband and I have been doing the big lodges in the Western national parks for a while now. We didn’t get to sit on the porch at Crater Lake because there was still a good 2 feet of snow on it, but we did enjoy a nice drink in their lobby area.

By far the current favorites are Old Faithful Inn (he proposed at the geyser, so it gets an extra boost for that, but it’s amazing all on its own) and Timberline Lodge, where you can sit at the bar in front of those huge glass windows and nurse a tasty drink in the warmth while you watch idiots strap boards to their feet and slide downhill.*

* I don’t ski since the incident with the backboard when I was 14, coupled by an increasing fear of heights that can be triggered immensely standing at the edge of a slope. No actual offense intended to those who enjoy it.

146 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:28:27pm

It’s for those who like firepower but also want a good trigger for their rifle. Previous ideas in this vein were impediments to accurate shooting; This one isn’t. It’s designed to be a good crisp trigger and a strong and reliable safety as well.

147 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:28:57pm

re: #145 klys

* I don’t ski since the incident with the backboard when I was 14, coupled by an increasing fear of heights that can be triggered immensely standing at the edge of a slope. No actual offense intended to those who enjoy it.

Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke.
//

148 CuriousLurker  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:29:05pm

re: #137 Kragar

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149 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:29:52pm

re: #148 CuriousLurker

Can you ask him if respecting God’s messengers includes Muhammad? Y’know, just to see if it’ll make his head explode. //

150 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:30:33pm

re: #147 GeneJockey

Fuck ‘em if they can’t take a joke.
//

The biggest problem is family vacations not-visiting-my-grandparents growing up were either Disney World (shush, I’m still 5 and the husband owes me a trip) or skiing.

To the point that my parents now own a timeshare slopeside at Breckenridge.

Actually planning to go join them this year since I like ski towns and ski lodges. Just …not skiing.

151 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:30:39pm

re: #142 Ian G.

I did St. Helens and Crater Lake in the same trip too (in August, so the skies were clear and so were the roads, although there was still some snow in places at Crater Lake). St. Helens is just so raw of an experience with the fallen trees and volcanic dust blowing everywhere as you hike out along Johnston Ridge. Crater Lake was just so much more serene (ironic, given that the eruption that created Crater Lake was something like 100 times more powerful that the 1980 St. Helens eruption).

The two are also linked in my mind by my (now) fiancee’s reaction to them. As we finished the St. Helens hike (no shade, blowing dust, etc.) she whined to me about when we’d be able to sit down and have a Pina Colada. Well, she got her Pina Colada on the patio of the Crater Lake Lodge a few days later. I had a beer.

Do you like Pina Coladas,
and walking ‘round Crater Lake?
Have you seen Mt. St. Helens,
and what was left in her wake?

152 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:31:42pm

re: #129 Kragar

You atheists are all wimp ass pussy pansy fags with nothing intelligent to say. U r making clowns out of yourselves! Stupids!

Irony is dead.

153 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:31:56pm

re: #150 klys

The biggest problem is family vacations not-visiting-my-grandparents growing up were either Disney World (shush, I’m still 5 and the husband owes me a trip) or skiing.

To the point that my parents now own a timeshare slopeside at Breckenridge.

Actually planning to go join them this year since I like ski towns and ski lodges. Just …not skiing.

I’m a snowboard guy myself, but my true winter sport preference is ice skating.

154 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:33:00pm

It also turns out that 3D printing can be used to produce firearms using alloys that are very difficult to work using traditional methods:

Solid Concepts wan’t entirely certain how the first design would fare. Composed of sintered stainless steel they built the gun without any heat-treating, which would improve the strength of the parts. With version 1.0 still doing just fine through the first 700 rounds, Solid Concepts is doing something a little different for version 2.0.

The Solid Concepts 1911 2.0 includes the same 34 3D-printed components, but for the second gun they will not be made out of stainless steel. Solid Concepts is building the second gun out of Inconel 625, a “superalloy” of chromium and nickel. The material is denser and stronger than steel and using traditional machining methods, very hard to work with.

But with 3D printing, things are considerably different.

“Inconel 625 is a harder, stronger alloy than 17-4 Stainless Steel. We modified the geometry for this second iteration to incorporate different tolerances in order to make hand finishing sufficiently easier. With our first prototype, we had to hand sand to perfect a few tolerances, but our tweaks to the design should remove the need for such sanding.

The purpose of using a stronger alloy is to create a M1911 pistol that will last longer and be less likely to suffer a dangerous malfunction.

And with that, I’m outta here. BBL

155 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:34:02pm

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

I’m a snowboard guy myself, but my true winter sport preference is ice skating.

Snowshoeing. I’m very fond of snowshoeing.

Of course, there’s no snow around here anyway, but I’ve done some in Yosemite.

I found it …extremely difficult to go from downhill skiing to cross-country skiing and so have just washed my hands of it entirely.

156 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:35:01pm

Got back from a dentist visit. Paid $100 for an xray and to find out that a molar will have to be removed and 2 small fillings for another tooth. Total for those? $428, plus another $255 for a follow up visit (grand total of $728 including today). Dentist gave me a Rx for an antibiotic and, even after I told them I didn’t want a “pain pill”, also one for Lorcet. The dental asst told me I could get a “debit card” to charge the balance on. No thanks, I’ve seen people describe those as having 30% interest rates and I don’t like to owe bills like that, nor would I pay those rates.

When I went to get the Rx filled for the antibiotic, I had the girl shred the Lorcet Rx and when they called me to pick up, the pharmacist (who I’ve known for many years) told me they had prescribed penicillin which he had called them and changed—he knew I was allergic to it. So, no, I won’t be going back to that guy (he’s had a practice here for many years). I saw that there is one refill available for the antibiotic, and when that runs out in a few days, I will just get it refilled and when I need it, I’ll have it, until I can save up enough money to see another dentist who’s more reasonable.

When did dental bills get so huge?

157 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:36:14pm
158 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:37:21pm

re: #157 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Haha, and he’s going to run again when he’s 80?

Bwahhahahahaha!

159 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:37:32pm

re: #153 Eclectic Cyborg

My winter sport of choice is Irish Coffee by the Fireplace. I’m really good at that.

(Actually, I’d love to try snowboarding, but my dog pulled me down a flight of stairs in the winter two years ago and trashed my knee. I’m only now recovering)

160 Ian G.  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:38:55pm

re: #145 klys

Haven’t stayed in any of the lodges in big parks out west yet. I feel like that’s something for when I’m older and wealthier and a) don’t want to set up tents and sleep on the ground anymore, and b) won’t wince as much at spending $200 a night on a lodge room, rather than $20 a night on a campsite.

That being said, I may make an exception for the Prince of Wales Hotel in Waterton Lake NP in Alberta because….wow.

161 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:39:17pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

I’m glad your pharmacist was looking out for you. That’s what they’re supposed to do, I know, but I also know there are good ones and there are bad ones.

162 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:40:48pm

re: #160 Ian G.

Haven’t stayed in any of the lodges in big parks out west yet. I feel like that’s something for when I’m older and wealthier and a) don’t want to set up tents and sleep on the ground anymore, and b) won’t wince as much at spending $200 a night on a lodge room, rather than $20 a night on a campsite.

That being said, I may make an exception for the Prince of Wales Hotel in Waterton Lake NP in Alberta because….wow.

Alberta is Magnificent. It’s on the top of my list of Western Canadian destinations to visit. You can actually take a train from BC into Alberta through the Rocky Mountains. Spectacular views.

163 erik_t  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:41:12pm

re: #160 Ian G.

That being said, I may make an exception for the Prince of Wales Hotel in Waterton Lake NP in Alberta because….wow.

I’ve been there. It’s everything you think it is.

164 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:41:43pm

re: #160 Ian G.

Haven’t stayed in any of the lodges in big parks out west yet. I feel like that’s something for when I’m older and wealthier and a) don’t want to set up tents and sleep on the ground anymore, and b) won’t wince as much at spending $200 a night on a lodge room, rather than $20 a night on a campsite.

That being said, I may make an exception for the Prince of Wales Hotel in Waterton Lake NP in Alberta because….wow.

Yeah, that one is on the list. We almost did Glacier this summer but left things to too late and opted to do it in another year or two instead.

We do a mix of camping in our teardrop trailer and lodges. I adore our teardrop. Plus we can camp where hard sides are required.

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:42:12pm

re: #155 klys

Snowshoeing. I’m very fond of snowshoeing.

Of course, there’s no snow around here anyway, but I’ve done some in Yosemite.

I found it …extremely difficult to go from downhill skiing to cross-country skiing and so have just washed my hands of it entirely.

I started with cross-country skiing and have only gone downhill skiing a few times. Find the latter interesting, but not worth breaking limbs over. Also tends to be fewer ignorant assholes flying around being “cool” and not observant on X-country trails or just out cutting your own paths through the powder.

166 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:42:36pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

When did dental bills get so huge?

I don’t know but it sucks. I have two fillings that need to be taken care of but they would cost me close to $200 a pop and I HAVE dental insurance!

167 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:42:41pm

re: #17 Ian G.

Once again, we find that the definition of “representative government” on the right is actually “vanguard of white conservative Christian men”.

It’s kind of like how North Korea’s definition of “people’s democratic republic” is “personal plaything of the Kim family”.

That’s why I call the Prime Minister up here in Canada ‘Our Dear Leader’. He really hates democracy and has done everything he can to ensure he’s the only one with any say.

Luckily he can’t go too far. Canadians are really nasty people when riled and even a lot of conservatives would object to Parliament being dismantled.

168 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:43:13pm

re: #145 klys

My now-husband and I have been doing the big lodges in the Western national parks for a while now. We didn’t get to sit on the porch at Crater Lake because there was still a good 2 feet of snow on it, but we did enjoy a nice drink in their lobby area.

By far the current favorites are Old Faithful Inn (he proposed at the geyser, so it gets an extra boost for that, but it’s amazing all on its own) and Timberline Lodge, where you can sit at the bar in front of those huge glass windows and nurse a tasty drink in the warmth while you watch idiots strap boards to their feet and slide downhill.*

* I don’t ski since the incident with the backboard when I was 14, coupled by an increasing fear of heights that can be triggered immensely standing at the edge of a slope. No actual offense intended to those who enjoy it.

When I lived in Portland, one of my sisters came to visit. I borrowed a bike for her and we rode up to Timberline Lodge. I made her cry with all the lies about ‘just around the next bend….’, except they weren’t lies, I had no idea how far we were from the end. Down was much better.

169 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:43:28pm

re: #165 Feline Fearless Leader

I started with cross-country skiing and have only gone downhill skiing a few times. Find the latter interesting, but not worth breaking limbs over. Also tends to be fewer ignorant assholes flying around being “cool” and not observant on X-country trails or just out cutting your own paths through the powder.

I seriously twisted my ankle the first and only time I tried cross-country skiing. Turning without edges on the skis is hard. :(

170 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:44:13pm

re: #169 klys

I seriously twisted my ankle the first and only time I tried cross-country skiing. Turning without edges on the skis is hard. :(

I broke my leg once downhill skiing when my boot failed to separate from my ski as I tumbled. Yeah, that sucked.

171 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:46:45pm
172 Dr. Matt  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:47:05pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

I’m finding it more and more difficult to find a quality dentist now days. Over the last 6 years I have gone through 4 different dentists while the prior 30+ I had three. I think dentists are becoming too much like a service industry rather than a healthcare provider. My last dentist was just down-right creepy from the way he dressed to the way he treated his staff. He convinced me to replace all my old metal fillings with the new ceramic fillings, but never emphasized the possible down-sides, i,e., months and months of extreme sensitivity, discomfort, etc. During my last follow-up with him, he walks into the exam room sporting a nickel-sized cold sore on his mouth. Needless to say I never returned.

Ok…..I’m just venting.

Go Blue.

173 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:47:45pm

re: #161 klys

I’m glad your pharmacist was looking out for you. That’s what they’re supposed to do, I know, but I also know there are good ones and there are bad ones.

Yeah, I should have been the “ampicillin” and known it was a penicillin on the RX, but I was really, really upset with what I was being roped into at the dentist’s office. I’m sure I can find another dentist who will do the job for much less.

174 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:47:56pm

re: #169 klys

I seriously twisted my ankle the first and only time I tried cross-country skiing. Turning without edges on the skis is hard. :(

There is that. I know someone who gave it up almost immediately after being told that they had to climb back up the hill they’d just skied down. No lift or t-bar to save them from gravity.

175 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:48:49pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman


First red flag is the assistant telling you to get a debit card.
OTOH, I know you are onto that dental scam.
I’ll bet you don’t even need the expensive work.

176 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:49:37pm
If I was a Democrat I would run and hide now…..Remember the GOPs have all the guns

It isn’t just conservatives who have guns, and the liberals won’t be overconfident dickwads.

Seriously, the RWNJs promoting violence remind me of their philosophical ancestors in the Axis. They regard the other side as ‘weak’, ‘effete’, ‘poisoned by a decadent lifestyle’, ‘afraid to die.’

But which side won?

177 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:50:44pm

Which Doctor are you?

Doctor Who Personality Quiz

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

178 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:50:56pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know but it sucks. I have two fillings that need to be taken care of but they would cost me close to $200 a pop and I HAVE dental insurance!

Good grief! Even with insurance? I don’t have that, and of course Medicare doesn’t cover dental expenses.

179 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:51:00pm

re: #150 klys

The biggest problem is family vacations not-visiting-my-grandparents growing up were either Disney World (shush, I’m still 5 and the husband owes me a trip) or skiing.

To the point that my parents now own a timeshare slopeside at Breckenridge.

Actually planning to go join them this year since I like ski towns and ski lodges. Just …not skiing.

Drink mulled wine, eat hot food, throw snowballs, breathe the cold, crisp air, and when you leave, the snow stays behind, not needing to be shoveled. Sounds ideal!

180 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:51:15pm

re: #171 Kragar

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Are you sure that isn’t one of the Palins?

181 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:51:39pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

Yeah, I should have been the “ampicillin” and known it was a penicillin on the RX, but I was really, really upset with what I was being roped into at the dentist’s office. I’m sure I can find another dentist who will do the job for much less.

It is always worth getting a second opinion. It might cost a little more, but you might end up saving a bunch. You should be able to get the X-rays you had done today to take to another dentist for them to look at as well.

When I started grad school, I didn’t have dental coverage, so my mom found me a coupon for a cheap cleaning. Went in to get the cleaning done and during the discussion with the dentist he informed me that I needed 11 fillings. I’d never had one before that.

I ended up going to my (now) current dentist (recommended by the then-boyfriend) and had exactly one filling, with monitoring ongoing on the rest of them. That was 6 years ago. The filling still cost like $300 (I got the fancy no-show stuff), but they gave me the discount price since I was paying cash as a student.

182 Archangelus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:51:43pm

Two days ago I wrote

”* Cough * UseTheDamnNuclearOption * Cough *”

as a comment in another page, while never expecting to actually see it happen anytime even remotely soon - how nice to be wrong!

And my stance on the outrage and cries by the RWNJs can be summed up nice in the following:
Youtube Video

183 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:52:25pm

re: #144 klys

…so what’s the purpose of something like this? Just trying to figure out if there is one beyond kill things faster.

There is a certain segment of gun culture that is, in its own way, extremely nerdy. They are cut from the same cloth as the guys who buy a 1994 Honda Civic for $1000 and then put $20,000 worth of gaudy aftermarket shit on it, like body kits, useless and/or counterproductive spoilers, engine mods, colored lights in the undercarriage, exhaust noise amplifiers, wheels made from metals that can only be mined on one of Jupiter’s moons, etc.

In the computer world, it’s the guys who build the absolute fastest gaming PC available and then go to all manner of warranty-voiding lengths to overclock each component in such a way that they score 0.0004% higher on a benchmark.

The AV/Home Theater world has the contingent who believe all sorts of insane voodoo, leading to a world in which companies can actually sell $1000 HDMI cables.

Pretty much every interest or hobby that requires gear of some sort will have a subculture of people who wastefully and pointlessly obsess over that gear, and constantly fiddle with it in very impractical ways. They end up spending more time modding their toys than actually playing with them.

184 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:52:50pm

re: #170 Eclectic Cyborg

I broke my leg once downhill skiing when my boot failed to separate from my ski as I tumbled. Yeah, that sucked.

If you do that again, do it at Alpine Meadows so I can give you one of my famous sled rides to first aid. I had a snowboarder last year who broke five ribs. Man, he was a mess. Never take on a tree, let alone two of them.

Broke a leg myself when I was seven. Broke a finger when I landed on a submerged tree skiing off-piste in my twenties. Now I wear a helmet and when I do ski in a ‘no fall zone’ (narrow chute with rocks/trees), I do all I can not to fall, but if I do I don’t fight it. Dive into the fall and let gravity take you past the widow makers.

185 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:53:11pm

re: #159 A Mom Anon

My winter sport of choice is Irish Coffee by the Fireplace. I’m really good at that.

(Actually, I’d love to try snowboarding, but my dog pulled me down a flight of stairs in the winter two years ago and trashed my knee. I’m only now recovering)

Irish Coffee, the tasty pharmaceutical mistake.

186 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:54:44pm

re: #184 darthstar

If you do that again, do it at Alpine Meadows so I can give you one of my famous sled rides to first aid. I had a snowboarder last year who broke five ribs. Man, he was a mess. Never take on a tree, let alone two of them.

Broke a leg myself when I was seven. Broke a finger when I landed on a submerged tree skiing off-piste in my twenties. Now I wear a helmet and when I do ski in a ‘no fall zone’ (narrow chute with rocks/trees), I do all I can not to fall, but if I do I don’t fight it. Dive into the fall and let gravity take you past the widow makers.

Hah, I think my folks did Alpine Meadows this past March. With the crappy, crappy snow.

Both my parents wear helmets, at least.

187 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:55:37pm

re: #166 Eclectic Cyborg

I don’t know but it sucks. I have two fillings that need to be taken care of but they would cost me close to $200 a pop and I HAVE dental insurance!

I recently cancelled an appointment because two fillings was going to cost over $500.

I asked the receptionist, “But last time you charged me $180 per filling!”

She said, “They’re big fillings.”

188 Archangelus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:55:42pm

re: #184 darthstar

Never take on a tree, let alone two of them.

While my past ski vacations were ages ago, I vividly remember the snowboarder who collided head-first into a tree during my first ski vacation (i was 17 years old at the time). That one tree was, as you could imagine, more than enough damage for the poor bastard…

189 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:56:33pm

re: #187 BongCrodny

I recently cancelled an appointment because two fillings was going to cost over $500.

I asked the receptionist, “But last time you charged me $180 per filling!”

She said, “They’re big fillings.”

My response would have been: “I was unaware my teeth had recently grown larger.”

190 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:56:39pm

re: #183 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There is a certain segment of gun culture that is, in its own way, extremely nerdy. They are cut from the same cloth as the guys who buy a 1994 Honda Civic for $1000 and then put $20,000 worth of gaudy aftermarket shit on it, like body kits, useless and/or counterproductive spoilers, engine mods, colored lights in the undercarriage, exhaust noise amplifiers, wheels made from metals that can only be mined on one of Jupiter’s moons, etc.

In the computer world, it’s the guys who build the absolute fastest gaming PC available and then go to all manner of warranty-voiding lengths to overclock each component in such a way that they score 0.0004% higher on a benchmark.

The AV/Home Theater world has the contingent who believe all sorts of insane voodoo, leading to a world in which companies can actually sell $1000 HDMI cables.

Pretty much every interest or hobby that requires gear of some sort will have a subculture of people who wastefully and pointlessly obsess over that gear, and constantly fiddle with it in very impractical ways. They end up spending more time modding their toys than actually playing with them.

Not in the bicycle world. No way. Nunh uh. And being able to drive around with it on top of your car does not tempt people into that sort of behavior, either. Nope.

/

191 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:56:46pm

re: #172 Dr. Matt

I think a lot of dentists are mainly interested in making a ton of money on cosmetic this and that, rather than actually treating dental problems. I had to see a dermatologist a while back, and both of the ones I went to were the same way. People are ridiculous.

192 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:57:02pm

re: #186 klys

Hah, I think my folks did Alpine Meadows this past March. With the crappy, crappy snow.

Both my parents wear helmets, at least.

We had a crappy year last year after January. It’ll be better this year, I hope.

193 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:57:40pm

re: #175 Backwoods_Sleuth

First red flag is the assistant telling you to get a debit card.
OTOH, I know you are onto that dental scam.
I’ll bet you don’t even need the expensive work.

Well, the tooth may have to go, and the 2 fillings (he said, without xraying, though) may be necessary, but hell’s bells, it shouldn’t cost over $700.

Yeah, I’m on to that scam. I would definitely have it pulled for $200, which to me is all it should cost, and even that’s high, considering I already paid $100.

194 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:58:33pm

re: #192 darthstar

We had a crappy year last year after January. It’ll be better this year, I hope.

Yeah, they’re not coming out here this year so I’m pretty sure it’ll be better.

Or at least, it would be kind of hard-pressed to be worse. Not that nature isn’t totally capable of proving me wrong.

195 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 2:59:34pm

re: #183 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

There is a certain segment of gun culture that is, in its own way, extremely nerdy. They are cut from the same cloth as the guys who buy a 1994 Honda Civic for $1000 and then put $20,000 worth of gaudy aftermarket shit on it, like body kits, useless and/or counterproductive spoilers, engine mods, colored lights in the undercarriage, exhaust noise amplifiers, wheels made from metals that can only be mined on one of Jupiter’s moons, etc.

In the computer world, it’s the guys who build the absolute fastest gaming PC available and then go to all manner of warranty-voiding lengths to overclock each component in such a way that they score 0.0004% higher on a benchmark.

The AV/Home Theater world has the contingent who believe all sorts of insane voodoo, leading to a world in which companies can actually sell $1000 HDMI cables.

Pretty much every interest or hobby that requires gear of some sort will have a subculture of people who wastefully and pointlessly obsess over that gear, and constantly fiddle with it in very impractical ways. They end up spending more time modding their toys than actually playing with them.

OTOH, when I swapped out standard Monster Cable speaker cables for their ‘Powerline’ high-grade cables, my wife, while still coming up the stairs and not knowing what I had done, said, “What did you to the sound? It’s much better!”

But yeah, I am aware of those for whom spending infinite money and time to asymptotically approach perfection is a point of pride.

196 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:00:11pm

re: #194 klys

Yeah, they’re not coming out here this year so I’m pretty sure it’ll be better.

Or at least, it would be kind of hard-pressed to be worse. Not that nature isn’t totally capable of proving me wrong.

They got 6” the last couple of days. It’s a start. A foot a week is all I ask.

197 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:00:49pm

Boehner tries to fail at signing up for Obamacare, and fails at it.

198 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:01:20pm

re: #178 Justanotherhuman
Every dental plan our family has had in the last decade at least has been crap. 1000 dollar a year limit, after that you’re on your own. I’ve had lots of work done since ‘08, but honestly, the insurance has paid hardly any of it. Dental insurance is a joke, it’s more like a coupon for some money off. Fillings are anywhere from 250 to 450 dollars depending on the tooth’s location(seriously, WTF). I need perio-maintainence type cleanings 4 times a year, insurance covers half of ONE of those which are 140 a pop.

Why in the hell dental isn’t part of medical is beyond me. It’s insane that it’s a separate thing. If your teeth and gums are a mess, your health can’t be good either. Trust me, I know that from experience.

199 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:01:21pm

re: #177 BongCrodny

Which Doctor are you?

Doctor Who Personality Quiz

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

I’m the 5th Doctor

200 Archangelus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:02:00pm

re: #187 BongCrodny

I recently cancelled an appointment because two fillings was going to cost over $500.

Whenever i look at the healthcare back home, i become instantly thankful I have Israeli healthcare - two fillings would cost ~$120 at most with the most simplest of plans, and most stuff are nowhere near as costly as they are back home.

201 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:02:07pm

re: #177 BongCrodny

Which Doctor are you?

Doctor Who Personality Quiz

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

I’m my own doctor. =P

202 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:03:40pm

re: #189 Eclectic Cyborg

My response would have been: “I was unaware my teeth had recently grown larger.”

Well, I really shouldn’t complain — the last time I was there for a filling, he had some extra material left over — so he actually gave me a freebie.

Don’t know many dentists that would do that. :-)

203 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:03:50pm

One kind of cool thing from our week in Mexico - we stayed in this lovely villa with a full kitchen - two bed, two bath, view of the water. Looked into one of the two ice chests they provide and there was a lighter, a pack of Zig-zag papers, and a large stinky bud. Left it for the next guests to enjoy. Still, it was a nice perk had I felt like enjoying it.

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:03:55pm

re: #193 Justanotherhuman

Well, the tooth may have to go, and the 2 fillings (he said, without xraying, though) may be necessary, but hell’s bells, it shouldn’t cost over $700.

Yeah, I’m on to that scam. I would definitely have it pulled for $200, which to me is all it should cost, and even that’s high, considering I already paid $100.

Husband here needs two root canals. Our insurance just now approved the procedures (took 2 or 3 months for that to happen). Total cost is $2,100, our share will be a bit over $400. One of the teeth is a front tooth that is broken, a cap is going to be extra.
He needs to get this done before the end of the year, while this year’s deductible is still covered.

205 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:04:08pm

re: #190 wrenchwench

Not in the bicycle world No way. Nunh uh. And being able to drive around with it on top of your car does not tempt people into that sort of behavior, either. Nope.

/

You know, I am amazed at my LACK of bikelust these days. I’ll admit that I obsessed while building up the Battaglin, but since I finished it, I’ve had no desire at all to get another bike, or upgrade any of my current rides.*

I like to think if it as sign of maturity.

*Well, except the Bianchi with the sloppy rear shifting. I’d like to upgrade it to actually WORKING.

206 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:04:12pm

re: #201 klys

I’m my own doctor. =P

Physician heal thyself?

207 thecommodore  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:04:40pm

re: #4 darthstar

I liked Reid’s response to McConnell threatening to destroy filibusters altogether if/when he takes power…Go for it! That will be your choice. Of course, the catch is McConnell is a ways away from regaining control of the Senate and he knows it…so his empty threats are all he has going for him.

Wingnuts are convinced this will be the final nail in the coffin of the “Democrat Party” and “liberalism,” with the others being provided by the botched roll out of Obamacare. They are convinced that these two things will hand the GOP a majority next year.

208 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:05:46pm

re: #206 BongCrodny

Physician heal thyself?

Pfft, not that kind of doctor.

/

Dammit, if I earned this title I’m going to get some use out of it, since so far it is mostly used by my parents and in-laws when they address cards to me.

209 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:07:23pm

re: #201 klys

I’m my own doctor. =P

“No, that’s DOCTOR Simon.”

“What kind of Doctor are you?”

“I am a Doctor of Music.”

“Can you fix a Hi-Fi?”

“No.”

“Then SIDDOWN!”

210 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:07:30pm

re: #208 klys
Change your LGF name to Dr Klys. Do EET.

211 The Mountain That Blogs  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:07:57pm

re: #208 klys

Can you at least call yourself Professor?

212 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:08:01pm
213 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:08:42pm

re: #203 darthstar

One kind of cool thing from our week in Mexico - we stayed in this lovely villa with a full kitchen - two bed, two bath, view of the water. Looked into one of the two ice chests they provide and there was a lighter, a pack of Zig-zag papers, and a large stinky bud. Left it for the next guests to enjoy. Still, it was a nice perk had I felt like enjoying it.

Jay it forward?

214 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:10:11pm

If I was a Time Lord, my name would be Dave.

Everyone needs to know a Dave.

215 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:11:34pm

re: #156 Justanotherhuman

Did you know, if you are a non-insured dental patient, you can negotiate prices? I get 20% off on all office services, and pay cost for things they buy to treat me. Ask, if you want to see what they will do! Also, I asked at work, who liked their dentist ( I am a HUGE dental weenie) and 10 people went “oh, they’re OK” then one went “oh, your going to love Dr.X” guess where I still go? Good luck!

216 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:11:39pm

re: #198 A Mom Anon

Every dental plan our family has had in the last decade at least has been crap. 1000 dollar a year limit, after that you’re on your own. I’ve had lots of work done since ‘08, but honestly, the insurance has paid hardly any of it. Dental insurance is a joke, it’s more like a coupon for some money off. Fillings are anywhere from 250 to 450 dollars depending on the tooth’s location(seriously, WTF). I need perio-maintainence type cleanings 4 times a year, insurance covers half of ONE of those which are 140 a pop.

Why in the hell dental isn’t part of medical is beyond me. It’s insane that it’s a separate thing. If your teeth and gums are a mess, your health can’t be good either. Trust me, I know that from experience.

Yes, and like a lot of people my age (72), I didn’t get regular dental visits as a kid. I was in my 20s and on my own totally when I finally had regular dental care. Most of my fillings are 30-50 yrs old, and as they fall out, there is decay underneath, so the tooth has to go. It’s the reason so many elderly people have dentures, and I’ve been lucky that I still have most of my teeth left, but they may not last much longer. Even though I took care of my teeth, flossing, cleaning, etc. during adulthood, I’m losing them at a fairly steady clip now. Most people undergo a lot of bone loss under the teeth as they age—it’s almost inevitable, and that loosens teeth, too.

217 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:12:45pm

re: #205 GeneJockey

You know, I am amazed at my LACK of bikelust these days. I’ll admit that I obsessed while building up the Battaglin, but since I finished it, I’ve had no desire at all to get another bike, or upgrade any of my current rides.*

I like to think if it as sign of maturity.

*Well, except the Bianchi with the sloppy rear shifting. I’d like to upgrade it to actually WORKING.

Here, have some Bike Lust.

If money were no object, I’d have a carbon fiber road bike and a carbon fiber mountain bike (and also a steel road bike), but almost all bikes are fun to ride, so I’m not missing much.

218 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:13:08pm

re: #210 A Mom Anon

Change your LGF name to Dr Klys. Do EET.

Why not, at least for a bit?

re: #211 The Mountain That Blogs

Can you at least call yourself Professor?

No, but I don’t think I’d want to. Getting tenure is a bitch.

219 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:13:59pm

Mental health break from all the RWNJ fail:

220 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:15:26pm

Not the best photo ever (we’ve now gone back two phones to find it!) but here’s the view sitting at the bar couches at Timberline.

221 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:16:14pm

re: #203 darthstar

One kind of cool thing from our week in Mexico - we stayed in this lovely villa with a full kitchen - two bed, two bath, view of the water. Looked into one of the two ice chests they provide and there was a lighter, a pack of Zig-zag papers, and a large stinky bud. Left it for the next guests to enjoy. Still, it was a nice perk had I felt like enjoying it.

years ago i moved into an apartment, and the first time i went to take some toilet paper, a joint fell out of where it had been tucked into the roll

222 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:18:43pm
223 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:19:00pm

re: #216 Justanotherhuman

Yep, same thing happened to me, only my lack of dental care came with homelessness and poverty in my late teens into my late 20s. All those amalgam fillings from my kid years shrank away from the tooth, bacteria got in there and ate the teeth from the inside out. Lost all my molars but one, ended up with a bridge and 5 crowns. Two of those have been replaced. I’d love to find a dentist that I felt I could trust entirely, but the one I have isn’t awful, I just think he doesn’t want to do some things(like lasers on small cavities) on me because my insurance covers nothing and he knows we’re not having the best financial times ever. Dental really should be part of medical insurance, why it isn’t I have no idea, but I suspect some of it is lobbying by someone somewhere to keep it this way.

224 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:19:07pm

Also, I totally have proof the Doctor is real.

You won’t find it there if you look now.

225 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:19:31pm

re: #201 klys

I’m my own doctor. =P

Me: Congratulations! You’re the Ninth Doctor

226 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:19:35pm

i have to deal with a bridge my dentist wants to add. i’d like to have the bridge, it would fill a gap in my teefs

the bridge cost $4500 and my dental insurance gets used up at $1500, so i’m trying to get acclimated to the idea of shelling out the 3 grand

227 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:20:29pm

re: #144 klys

…so what’s the purpose of something like this? Just trying to figure out if there is one beyond kill things faster.

I don’t think it would serve even for that. The original full auto option on the AR-15/M-16 was intended only for intermittent use under unusual, indeed, desperate, circumstances. The weapon is just not sufficiently robust for routine full auto fire. In particular, the barrel and gas tube will quickly overheat and the mechanism will jam. This is why the military eventually replaced the full auto mode with a 3 shot burst feature. Wingnut gun nerds, of course, don’t know this. They see their heroes blazing away with full auto ARs (from mags that apparently hold thousands of rounds), and they figure the only thing keeping them from doing likewise is the liberal gun laws and the oppressive National Firearms Act of 1934. They are always looking for some sort of work-around and this is just another example.

228 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:20:41pm

re: #217 wrenchwench

Here, have some Bike Lust.

Thanks! I ran out. Important tip - do not spray on rims! Ask me how I know.

If money were no object, I’d have a carbon fiber road bike and a carbon fiber mountain bike (and also a steel road bike), but almost all bikes are fun to ride, so I’m not missing much.

I’ve got two steel and one carbon road bike. BUT, none of them is newer that 2007. No desire for electronic shifting, or 11 speeds, or wheels with fewer than 20 spokes, or carbon fiber everything, and really no desire for a 16 lb bike. I kinda feel like everything was optimized by the mid 2000s, at least for my riding, and every advance beyond that is wasted on me.

And MTBs don’t appeal to me much, because I don’t like the lack of control one feels on dirt.

229 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:20:43pm

re: #220 dr. klys
Adopt me. I wanna go tooooooo…..

230 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:21:12pm

re: #145 klys

My now-husband and I have been doing the big lodges in the Western national parks for a while now. We didn’t get to sit on the porch at Crater Lake because there was still a good 2 feet of snow on it, but we did enjoy a nice drink in their lobby area.

By far the current favorites are Old Faithful Inn (he proposed at the geyser, so it gets an extra boost for that, but it’s amazing all on its own) and Timberline Lodge, where you can sit at the bar in front of those huge glass windows and nurse a tasty drink in the warmth while you watch idiots strap boards to their feet and slide downhill.*

* I don’t ski since the incident with the backboard when I was 14, coupled by an increasing fear of heights that can be triggered immensely standing at the edge of a slope. No actual offense intended to those who enjoy it.

next time you’re in the great Northwest, take a meal at the Multnomah Falls Lodge, you can sit back and enjoy the meal while watching the water fall after taking in the beauty of the Columbia River Gorge….

multnomahfallslodge.com

231 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:22:25pm
232 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:22:41pm

re: #220 dr. klys

Not the best photo ever (we’ve now gone back two phones to find it!) but here’s the view sitting at the bar couches at Timberline.

Heh. I took my ex-wife up to Timberline Lodge a few years back and when she saw it, she immediately said, “Dear God, it’s that hotel from ‘The Shining’ - we’re not staying here, are we?!”

233 teleskiguy  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:22:56pm

Multiple marijuana businesses being raided by DEA, IRS, Denver cops

234 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:22:59pm

re: #220 dr. klys

Not the best photo ever (we’ve now gone back two phones to find it!) but here’s the view sitting at the bar couches at Timberline.

Mr. w has been on top of that a few times. Once, a year or two before we met, he hiked around the Timberline Trail in under 24 hours. He wanted to do it again for his 70th birthday (as a 5 day camping trip), but when he started planning it, he found out a big chunk of the trail had fallen off the mountain, and a repeat would be impossible.

235 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:23:37pm

re: #222 Kragar

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yep…huggykissybearwhoever is definitely a palin…

236 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:24:40pm

re: #232 Dr Lizardo

Heh. I took my ex-wife up to Timberline Lodge a few years back and when she saw it, she immediately said, “Dear God, it’s that hotel from ‘The Shining’ - we’re not staying here, are we?!”

Hahaha, I’ve been both to Timberline (obviously) and to the hotel that actually inspired The Shining - the Stanley, in Estes Park, CO.

Their bar had an AMAZING liquor selection, no joke. Something like 600 different Scotches.

237 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:26:39pm

re: #236 dr. klys

Hahaha, I’ve been both to Timberline (obviously) and to the hotel that actually inspired The Shining - the Stanley, in Estes Park, CO.

Their bar had an AMAZING liquor selection, no joke. Something like 600 different Scotches.

which scotch would you prescribe, doctor?

238 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:27:27pm

re: #220 dr. klys

My mother (R.I.P.) and her second husband (also too R.I.P.) used to have a place in Parkdale and had a view of Mt. Hood from their living room, while I was their caretaker, it had a certain niftiness waking up to that kind of awesome everyday.

239 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:27:34pm

re: #237 dog philosopher

which scotch would you prescribe, doctor?

I wouldn’t know, I had some of the gin. ;)

240 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:28:36pm

Evening Lizardim.

241 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:29:05pm

re: #239 dr. klys

I wouldn’t know, I had some of the gin. ;)

Eeeewww!

242 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:29:34pm

re: #236 dr. klys

Hahaha, I’ve been both to Timberline (obviously) and to the hotel that actually inspired The Shining - the Stanley, in Estes Park, CO.

Their bar had an AMAZING liquor selection, no joke. Something like 600 different Scotches.

Never been to the Stanley, but I’ve seen photos of it. As I understand it, it’s reputed to be haunted.

I guess if I ever find myself there and meet a bartender named Lloyd with an uncanny resemblance to Joe Turkel, I’ll know to run like hell.

243 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:29:42pm
244 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:30:08pm

ah dannae think there are 600 whiskeys in the whole of scotchland

245 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:31:16pm
246 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:31:30pm

re: #242 Dr Lizardo

Never been to the Stanley, but I’ve seen photos of it. As I understand it, it’s reputed to be haunted.

I guess if I ever find myself there and meet a bartender named Lloyd with an uncanny resemblance to Joe Turkel, I’ll know to run like hell.

It was a gorgeous old, grand building. We didn’t stay there, but did drop by for a drink since we were in the area. It’s probably on the list of places to stay when we do get back that way, which I think we will at some point - I’d like to see a little more of Rocky Mountain National Park than we did.

247 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:32:48pm

re: #244 dog philosopher

ah dannae think there are 600 whiskeys in the whole of scotchland

My bad, it’s whiskeys including scotch: The Whiskey Bar.

248 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:35:52pm
249 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:36:06pm

re: #247 dr. klys

My bad, it’s whiskeys including scotch: The Whiskey Bar.

Oh, show me the way to the next whiskey bar.
(Oh, don’t ask why!
Oh, don’t ask why!)

250 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:36:42pm
251 teleskiguy  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:37:55pm

On the teleskiguy home front, I procured my Epic Pass this afternoon and I am going skiing for Vail’s opening day. Out of my many years living in the Eagle River Valley I’ve never skied Vail on opening day. Should be fun, though it might be a little crowded.

And if I could address dr. klys. Just so you know where I’m coming from. I found my fountain of youth, and telemark skiing is it. It’s my Zen. That being said, skiing/snowboarding is definitely not for everyone. If you do go to Breckenridge, go on a snowmobile tour on a sunny day, you’ll have a blast!

252 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:38:41pm

re: #228 GeneJockey

U NEED PURPUL STUFF

253 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:39:42pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

U NEED PURPUL STUFF

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Yuck! I’m about to be violetly ill!

254 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:40:46pm

re: #251 teleskiguy

On the teleskiguy home front, I procured my Epic Pass this afternoon and I am going skiing for Vail’s opening day. Out of my many years living in the Eagle River Valley I’ve never skied Vail on opening day. Should be fun, though it might be a little crowded.

And if I could address dr. klys. Just so you know where I’m coming from. I found my fountain of youth, and telemark skiing is it. It’s my Zen. That being said, skiing/snowboarding is definitely not for everyone. If you do go to Breckenridge, go on a snowmobile tour on a sunny day, you’ll have a blast!

I certainly don’t object to folks loving skiing. My dad does. :) I just …don’t, and it was very hard to convince my parents of that fact for a while.

255 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:42:23pm

re: #201 dr. klys

I’m my own doctor. =P

Same here. If it isn’t broken, dislocated or gushing blood I tend to take care of it myself. Same with dental. I did my last five extractions myself.

Warning! This may gross you out.

Image: Teath.JPG

256 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:42:42pm

re: #238 piratedan

My mother (R.I.P.) and her second husband (also too R.I.P.) used to have a place in Parkdale and had a view of Mt. Hood from their living room, while I was their caretaker, it had a certain niftiness waking up to that kind of awesome everyday.

When my parents lived outside of Bend, OR their deck (and also living room view) was of the Three Sisters off to the east. Was simply awesome to sit on the deck in the morning drinking in tea and the view at the same time.

257 bratwurst  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:45:59pm
258 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:46:08pm

re: #248 Lidane

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almost like Bush II invading Iraq for Haliburton….

259 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:46:41pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

Seems pretty complex for a cock ring.

Oh, its for a bike.

Never mind.

260 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:47:49pm

re: #259 Kragar

Seems pretty complex for a cock ring.

Oh, its for a bike.

Never mind.

Well, it DOES clamp your seatpost….

261 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:48:22pm

re: #260 GeneJockey

Well, it DOES clamp your seatpost….

Now there’s an excellent euphemism if I’ve ever heard one.

262 psddluva4evah  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:48:48pm

re: #231 darthstar

45 darn minutes later…pretty good for an old alcoholic drinker like Boehner…

263 darthstar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:49:51pm
264 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:50:14pm

re: #262 psddluva4evah

45 darn minutes later…pretty good for an old alcoholic drinker like Boehner…

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Oops. Like they tell lawyers questioning witnesses - Never ask a question to which you don’t already know the answer.

265 Lidane  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:51:56pm

re: #257 bratwurst

And right on cue, one of my wingnut friends is on the ZOMG DEMOCRAT POWER GRAB train. *sigh*

266 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:52:13pm

re: #260 GeneJockey

Well, it DOES clamp your seatpost….

THIS is the bike I want - but sadly, I can’t find them here in the Czech Republic.

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267 thedopefishlives  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:55:32pm

re: #265 Lidane

And right on cue, one of my wingnut friends is on the ZOMG DEMOCRAT POWER GRAB train. *sigh*

Yeah, I’m planning on avoiding Facebook for a while.

268 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:55:38pm

LOL

269 psddluva4evah  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:57:24pm

re: #264 GeneJockey

Also too, now the headline can read “John Boehner Enrolls in Obamacare”.

Talk about EPIC FAIL.

270 piratedan  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:57:31pm

re: #257 bratwurst

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translated from the Wingnut: It just means that Obummer has nominated lousy candidates… don’t prove nuthin’.

271 MPH  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 3:59:21pm

Angry Left, meet Angry Right.

Thanks for the page views.

272 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:01:48pm

Crazy Forehead Sea Slug Sex and more from I fucking Love Science:


Youtube Video

273 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:02:29pm

re: #268 Kragar

LOL

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You ARE evil!

274 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:04:30pm

re: #273 FemNaziBitch

You ARE evil!

What I imagine Honey nuts is doing right now

Youtube Video

275 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:09:28pm

re: #252 wrenchwench

U NEED PURPUL STUFF

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Sex toys?

276 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:10:03pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

Same here. If it isn’t broken, dislocated or gushing blood I tend to take care of it myself. Same with dental. I did my last five extractions myself.

Warning! This may gross you out.

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Why would you do that?

277 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:14:50pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

Same here. If it isn’t broken, dislocated or gushing blood I tend to take care of it myself. Same with dental. I did my last five extractions myself.

Warning! This may gross you out.

Image: Teath.JPG

“just a jackknife
has macteath, dear
and he keeps it
out of sight”

278 Targetpractice  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:17:00pm

re: #177 BongCrodny

Which Doctor are you?

Doctor Who Personality Quiz

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

The Eighth, who happens to be one of my favorites.

279 No Country For Old Haters  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:18:42pm

re: #255 Bubblehead II

Same here. If it isn’t broken, dislocated or gushing blood I tend to take care of it myself. Same with dental. I did my last five extractions myself.

Warning! This may gross you out.

Image: Teath.JPG

Please be kidding. I’d rather not believe that you’re going toothless rather than see a dentist.

280 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:21:04pm

re: #276 b_sharp

Why would you do that?

1. Cost. Why pay someone to do something you can do yourself?
2. As mentioned up thread, most tooth loss after 50 years is due to bone loss in the jaw, the teeth are practically falling out anyway (least whys the ones I pulled were).
3. When it hurts more to leave them in than it does to pull them, I will pull them every time.

281 Ed E. Lishus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:21:58pm

re: #279 No Country For Old Haters

Awww It’th nothin’. Thome people are thoooooo thquimish!

282 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:22:07pm


Earl Sampson has been stopped and questioned by Miami Gardens police 258 times in four years.

He’s been searched more than 100 times. And arrested and jailed 56 times.

Despite his long rap sheet, Sampson, 28, has never been convicted of anything more serious than possession of marijuana.

Miami Gardens police have arrested Sampson 62 times for one offense: trespassing.

Almost every citation was issued at the same place: the 207 Quickstop, a convenience store on 207th Street in Miami Gardens.

But Sampson isn’t loitering. He works as a clerk at the Quickstop.

So how can he be trespassing when he works there?

It’s a question the store’s owner, Alex Saleh, 36, has been asking for more than a year as he watched Sampson, his other employees and his customers, day after day, being stopped and frisked by Miami Gardens police. Most of them, like Sampson, are poor and black.

And, like Sampson, many of them have been cited for minor infractions, sometimes as often as three times in the same day.

Saleh was so troubled by what he saw that he decided to install video cameras in his store. Not to protect himself from criminals, because he says he has never been robbed. He installed the cameras — 15 of them — he said, to protect him and his customers from police.

[…]

Last year, Saleh, armed with a cache of videos, filed an internal affairs complaint about the arrests at his store. From that point, he said, police officers became even more aggressive.

One evening, shortly after he had complained a second time, a squadron of six uniformed Miami Gardens police officers marched into the store, he says. They lined up, shoulder to shoulder, their arms crossed in front of them, blocking two grocery aisles.

“Can I help you?” Saleh recalls asking. It was an entire police detail, known as the department’s Rapid Action Deployment (RAD) squad, whom he had come to know from their frequent arrest sweeps. One went to use the restroom, and five of them stood silently for a full 10 minutes. Then they all marched out.

[…]

Read more here: miamiherald.com

283 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:22:25pm

New Device to Protect Against Pregnancy, Herpes, and HIV Is Possible

New technology debuted at the American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists’ annual meeting last week will combine contraception and disease prevention into a vaginal ring. The small, flexible piece of plastic would be inserted high up in the vagina and could be left in place for 90 days. It would release both levonorgestrel, a hormonal contraceptive, and tenofovir, an antiretroviral that has been shown to inhibit the replication of HIV and herpes simplex virus-2 (HSV-2), one of the two strains of the virus that causes genital infections.

Science is so kewl!

284 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:22:46pm

re: #278 Targetpractice

The Eighth, who happens to be one of my favorites.

I’m the First Doctor.

285 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:23:06pm

re: #280 Bubblehead II

1. Cost. Why pay someone to do something you can do yourself?
2. As mentioned up thread, most tooth loss after 50 years is due to bone loss in the jaw, the teeth are practically falling out anyway (least whys the ones I pulled were).
3. When it hurts more to leave them in than it does to pull them, I will pull them every time.

i went through the same thing

eventually the dentista she pulled out the remaining dodgy teefs and gimme a partial

now i preserve the remaining teefs using xtreme measures

286 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:23:51pm

re: #280 Bubblehead II

1. Cost. Why pay someone to do something you can do yourself?
2. As mentioned up thread, most tooth loss after 50 years is due to bone loss in the jaw, the teeth are practically falling out anyway (least whys the ones I pulled were).
3. When it hurts more to leave them in than it does to pull them, I will pull them every time.

At 58 I have all my teeth but one, a wisdom tooth that was causing problems with my jaw alignment.

I would never pull my own teeth because a dentist might be able to save them.

287 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:25:21pm

re: #283 FemNaziBitch

New Device to Protect Against Pregnancy, Herpes, and HIV Is Possible

Science is so kewl!

You can play ‘find the ring’ with your husband.

288 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:26:18pm

re: #279 No Country For Old Haters

Please be kidding. I’d rather not believe that you’re going toothless rather than see a dentist.

Not kidding. Dental insurance sucks as several Lizards up thread have pointed out. Also, due to bone loss, a dentist would have done the same thing. How do I know? The three teeth pulled prior for the same reason by a Dentist. Only differnce was I used alchohol to dull the pain and he used Novocain and charged me $150.00 (after deductable) for it.

289 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:27:10pm

re: #285 dog philosopher

I have to floss after every meal, use fluoride rinse twice a day, and I have trays I use with fluoride gel at night before bed. Then there’s periodontal maintenance cleanings once a quarter. Just to stop the progression of gum disease and formation of new cavities. I wish I could afford the periodontal surgery and bone grafts, but it’s over 15K, they do it 1/4 of your mouth at a time and the whole process takes over 2 years, with no guarantee it will actually work. So maintenance it is.

290 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:28:21pm

re: #282 wrenchwench

But Sampson isn’t loitering. He works as a clerk at the Quickstop.

So how can he be trespassing when he works there?

Cops are arresting people on private property when the property owner hasn’t complained or asked for their help?

Can they come into your home and arrest you for loitering in front of your TV?

291 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:30:19pm

re: #290 FemNaziBitch

That shit right there is why many minorities hate the police and won’t report crimes to them. Like that shit would happen in white suburbs. Hell no it wouldn’t, no one would dream of it ever happening.

292 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:30:47pm

I hate the eye doctor the way most people hate the dentist. I’ve been lucky to inherit good dental genes. I rarely have anything but a cleaning at the dentist—3 small cavities and one chipped corner of a tooth.

Now, my glasses are so old they are scratched-up and I have resorted to store bought readers because the lower part of the bifocals prescription no longer works. I cringe at the idea of having to get new glasses.

293 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:32:04pm

re: #288 Bubblehead II

Not kidding. Dental insurance sucks as several Lizards up thread have pointed out. Also, due to bone loss, a dentist would have done the same thing. How do I know? The three teeth pulled prior for the same reason by a Dentist. Only differnce was I used alchohol to dull the pain and he used Novocain and charged me $150.00 (after deductable) for it.

I do cut my own skin tags off! Neosporin with Lidocain and sharp small scissors. Dermatologist charges $250 and insurance doesn’t pay. Have yet to have a problem.

294 No Country For Old Haters  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:32:05pm

re: #288 Bubblehead II

Yeah, it made more sense when reading your post right after mine. I was picturing you yanking teeth rather than get fillings and/or root-canals.

After reading this I think you should see a periodontist before you consider pulling any more.

295 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:34:03pm

re: #291 A Mom Anon

That shit right there is why many minorities hate the police and won’t report crimes to them. Like that shit would happen in white suburbs. Hell no it wouldn’t, no one would dream of it ever happening.

So, this goes on , while the Right decries the end of minority rule in the Senate as the death of the Republic.

Somebody’s got a severe case of head-up-the-butt-itis.

296 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:35:08pm

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

I do cut my own skin tags off! Neosporin with Lidocain and sharp small scissors. Dermatologist charges $250 and insurance doesn’t pay. Have yet to have a problem.

Not me, not since my GP cut one off and it bled like a stuck pig. She used 2 sutures to close it.

297 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:35:10pm

Technically, can’t the store owner tell the police to GET OUT of his store?

298 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:35:32pm

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

I do cut my own skin tags off! Neosporin with Lidocain and sharp small scissors. Dermatologist charges $250 and insurance doesn’t pay. Have yet to have a problem.

What a fun thread. Sort of.

You can remove skin tags with less bleeding by tying them off with thread. It cuts off the blood supply so they slough off by themselves.

299 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:36:14pm

re: #297 FemNaziBitch

Technically, can’t the store owner tell the police to GET OUT of his store?

Maybe he can get a restraining order.

300 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:36:46pm

re: #296 GeneJockey

Not me, not since my GP cut one off and it bled like a stuck pig. She used t2 sutures to close it.

Shit, You have to cut at the base of the tag, not on the skin itself. I’d go to a dermatologist not a GP anyway. I have one near my eye that drives me nuts, I WOULDN’T do that on my own. Just can’t justify the $$ for something that is basically cosmetic.

ARe you on blood thinners?

301 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:36:56pm

re: #289 A Mom Anon

I have to floss after every meal, use fluoride rinse twice a day, and I have trays I use with fluoride gel at night before bed. Then there’s periodontal maintenance cleanings once a quarter. Just to stop the progression of gum disease and formation of new cavities. I wish I could afford the periodontal surgery and bone grafts, but it’s over 15K, they do it 1/4 of your mouth at a time and the whole process takes over 2 years, with no guarantee it will actually work. So maintenance it is.

That seems like a lot of fluoride.

One of my neighbors works for a water co and told me he’s seen the chemical compound they add to water as fluoride eat through metal. Of course, by the time you drink it, it’s diluted to an acceptable level. Don’t know about its application in dental aides, though.

302 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:37:20pm

re: #298 calochortus

What a fun thread. Sort of.

You can remove skin tags with less bleeding by tying them off with thread. It cuts off the blood supply so they slough off by themselves.

kinda hard to do if they are on your arm —can’t do the tying off one handed. Sounds more painful, to me anyway.

303 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:37:40pm

re: #292 FemNaziBitch
I’m due for those too, but I’m incredibly near sighted and have astigmatism in both eyes so my glasses cost around 5-600 dollars. And again, insurance for this sucks. Last time I got glasses it was cheaper to use the sale frames and a store discount being offered than it was to use my insurance(I couldn’t use both, thems the rules) . And since I spend so much time outdoors, I need sunglasses or Transitions lenses that change when you’re in the sun. It’s about the same price whether I chose sunglasses and regular glasses or do the photo sensitive lenses, so that’s a wash. It’s been 2 yrs, I’m due for a new pair, but I can’t justify that and not give my kids and grandkids Christmas. I really shouldn’t have to choose, but that’s the way it is right now.

I don’t understand this country, why people are literally fighting against making things so the cost doesn’t screw over your finances. It makes me sad.

304 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:37:44pm

re: #295 GeneJockey

So, this goes on , while the Right decries the end of minority rule in the Senate as the death of the Republic.

Somebody’s got a severe case of head-up-the-butt-itis.

Post-racial America!

305 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:37:58pm

re: #301 Justanotherhuman

That seems like a lot of fluoride.

One of my neighbors works for a water co and told me he’s seen the chemical compound they add to water as fluoride eat through metal. Of course, by the time you drink it, it’s diluted to an acceptable level. Don’t know about its application in dental aides, though.

The anti-flouride people are INSANE, IMHO.

306 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:38:43pm

re: #302 FemNaziBitch

kinda hard to do if they are on your arm —can’t do the tying off one handed. Sounds more painful, to me anyway.

That’s what friends are for.

307 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:38:47pm

re: #300 FemNaziBitch

Shit, You have to cut at the base of the tag, not on the skin itself. I’d go to a dermatologist not a GP anyway. I have one near my eye that drives me nuts, I WOULDN’T do that on my own. Just can’t justify the $$ for something that is basically cosmetic.

ARe you on blood thinners?

SHE’S the one who did it. And yeah, she cut at the base, not on the skin.

No, not on blood thinners, and AFAIK there’s nothing wrong with my clotting times. Just a heavily vascularized skin tag.

308 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:39:03pm

re: #303 A Mom Anon

I’m due for those too, but I’m incredibly near sighted and have astigmatism in both eyes so my glasses cost around 5-600 dollars. And again, insurance for this sucks. Last time I got glasses it was cheaper to use the sale frames and a store discount being offered than it was to use my insurance(I couldn’t use both, thems the rules) . And since I spend so much time outdoors, I need sunglasses or Transitions lenses that change when you’re in the sun. It’s about the same price whether I chose sunglasses and regular glasses or do the photo sensitive lenses, so that’s a wash. It’s been 2 yrs, I’m due for a new pair, but I can’t justify that and not give my kids and grandkids Christmas. I really shouldn’t have to choose, but that’s the way it is right now.

I don’t understand this country, why people are literally fighting against making things so the cost doesn’t screw over your finances. It makes me sad.

I’m going to wait until after the first of the year when the Flex-Spending Plan is replenished. Hubby says I have to.

309 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:39:23pm

re: #307 GeneJockey

SHE’S the one who did it. And yeah, she cut at the base, not on the skin.

No, not on blood thinners, and AFAIK there’s nothing wrong with my clotting times. Just a heavily vascularized skin tag.

wow

310 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:39:35pm

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

I do cut my own skin tags off! Neosporin with Lidocain and sharp small scissors. Dermatologist charges $250 and insurance doesn’t pay. Have yet to have a problem.

Holy crap! I have one on my neck that is bothering the hell out of me, but it’s very close to the carotid artery, so I’m not going there. : ) Haven’t had very many of those and they usually just disappear.

311 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:40:10pm

re: #301 Justanotherhuman

That seems like a lot of fluoride.

One of my neighbors works for a water co and told me he’s seen the chemical compound they add to water as fluoride eat through metal. Of course, by the time you drink it, it’s diluted to an acceptable level. Don’t know about its application in dental aides, though.

Putting on the chemist hat: fluoride is actually just the name for the negative ion for fluorine. So what they add to water is either sodium fluoride, fluorosilicate acid, or sodium fluorosilicate.

Fun fact: hydrofluoric acid is some of the scariest shit out there.

312 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:41:10pm

This poor Canadian sometimes has trouble relating to the medical difficulties his American friends have to suffer through.

313 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:41:26pm

I remember once my Dad had to drill thru my fingernail to release a clot that formed from smashing my finger. NO one does that today —we think we have to go to the doctor for everything.

Kid hurt his pinky finger years ago and hubby wanted me to take him to the doctor. Yeah, xrays, radiologist bill, splint, office visit. Fracture pinky ended-up costing over $600! He’s not planning on being a concert pianist or a surgeon, it wasn’t bent at a weird angle.

You have on idea how angry it made me.

314 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:42:06pm

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! I have one on my neck that is bothering the hell out of me, but it’s very close to the carotid artery, so I’m not going there. : ) Haven’t had very many of those and they usually just disappear.

Wierd cysts and tags and growths run in the family. Sometimes they go away, sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they breed.

315 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:42:30pm

re: #311 dr. klys

Putting on the chemist hat: fluoride is actually just the name for the negative ion for fluorine. So what they add to water is either sodium fluoride, fluorosilicate acid, or sodium fluorosilicate.

Fun fact: hydrofluoric acid is some of the scariest shit out there.

I learned that from watching Breaking Bad.

316 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:42:53pm

re: #310 Justanotherhuman

Holy crap! I have one on my neck that is bothering the hell out of me, but it’s very close to the carotid artery, so I’m not going there. : ) Haven’t had very many of those and they usually just disappear.

Speaking of the carotid artery, the older boy has been using a pair of hair clippers in lieu of shaving, but they’re now so dull they’re more likely to burn the hair off than cut it.

He said, “I need to get a straight razor.”

Hmmm. A straight razor and an easily-distracted guy who hasn’t got the greatest manual dexterity, right next to a couple big-ass veins and arteries.

I suggested he think again.

317 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:43:13pm

re: #312 b_sharp

This poor Canadian sometimes has trouble relating to the medical difficulties his American friends have to suffer through.

It’s a game. We like games. We compete on every level. Who can get the best medical care for the least amount of out-of-pocket cash seems to be one of our favorites.

318 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:44:06pm

re: #315 FemNaziBitch

I learned that from watching Breaking Bad.

I worked in a lab with it.

Which actually translates to: I convinced my labmates to do all the things that might involve it for me.

Another fun fact: it cannot be stored in glassware (it eats glass) and so we kept it in a Rubbermaid container (from the store - I would know, I bought it) in a bin in the fumehood.

Very useful for getting glass out of the platinum crucibles though, when all other avenues had failed.

319 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:44:34pm

re: #313 FemNaziBitch

I remember once my Dad had to drill thru my fingernail to release a clot that formed from smashing my finger. NO one does that today —we think we have to go to the doctor for everything.

Kid hurt his pinky finger years ago and hubby wanted me to take him to the doctor. Yeah, xrays, radiologist bill, splint, office visit. Fracture pinky ended-up costing over $600! He’s not planning on being a concert pianist or a surgeon, it wasn’t bent at a weird angle.

You have on idea how angry it made me.

I have a badly mangled pinky that was misdiagnosed when I was a kid (broken while pitching). It’s so full of arthritis it’s starting to twist. I sometime feel I should just have it cut off.

320 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:44:38pm

re: #303 A Mom Anon

I’m due for those too, but I’m incredibly near sighted and have astigmatism in both eyes so my glasses cost around 5-600 dollars. And again, insurance for this sucks. Last time I got glasses it was cheaper to use the sale frames and a store discount being offered than it was to use my insurance(I couldn’t use both, thems the rules) . And since I spend so much time outdoors, I need sunglasses or Transitions lenses that change when you’re in the sun. It’s about the same price whether I chose sunglasses and regular glasses or do the photo sensitive lenses, so that’s a wash. It’s been 2 yrs, I’m due for a new pair, but I can’t justify that and not give my kids and grandkids Christmas. I really shouldn’t have to choose, but that’s the way it is right now.

I don’t understand this country, why people are literally fighting against making things so the cost doesn’t screw over your finances. It makes me sad.

I hear you. Here at xmas time is not good for me to be spending $637 more on my toofs, either. I’m going to tough it out until the first of the year then look for another dentist, and get the one refill for the antibiotic as an emergency measure. It’s not that I even spend a lot on presents, but it’s everything—the meal, some wine, decorating the apt, all those things tend to add up before you know it.

321 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:45:22pm

re: #318 dr. klys

I worked in a lab with it.

Which actually translates to: I convinced my labmates to do all the things that might involve it for me.

Another fun fact: it cannot be stored in glassware (it eats glass) and so we kept it in a Rubbermaid container (from the store - I would know, I bought it) in a bin in the fumehood.

Very useful for getting glass out of the platinum crucibles though, when all other avenues had failed.

I thought it might work well for all the stuff that never sells in the garage sales.

322 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:45:23pm

re: #312 b_sharp

This poor Canadian sometimes has trouble relating to the medical difficulties his American friends have to suffer through.

Bite me. Go listen to Gordon Lightfoot.
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323 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:46:12pm

re: #322 GeneJockey

Bite me. Go listen to Gordon Lightfoot.
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Thank you.

324 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:47:27pm

re: #321 FemNaziBitch

I thought it might work well for all the stuff that never sells in the garage sales.

Or the people at garage sales who point to a brand new, never been opened item that costs $50 in the store and say, “One dollah?”

325 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:47:32pm

re: #319 b_sharp

I have a badly mangled pinky that was misdiagnosed when I was a kid (broken while pitching). It’s so full of arthritis it’s starting to twist. I sometime feel I should just have it cut off.

My kid is not athletic. Taping it up would have worked just fine. I wore the expensive splint for about 2 days, I think.

326 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:47:39pm

re: #319 b_sharp

I have a badly mangled pinky that was misdiagnosed when I was a kid (broken while pitching). It’s so full of arthritis it’s starting to twist. I sometime feel I should just have it cut off.

Yeah, broken fingers really aren’t something to let heal on their own. Toes on the other hand-especially the little toe-are something you may just as well deal with at home. A little “buddy taping” and you’re good.

327 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:47:58pm


I drove that in September. Yes, that’s what federal highways look like in AZ and NM.

328 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:48:16pm

re: #324 GeneJockey

Or the people at garage sales who point to a brand new, never been opened item that costs $50 in the store and say, “One dollah?”

No, not people —maybe garbage, toxic waste, there have to be some very good reasons to use it.

329 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:48:54pm

re: #311 dr. klys

Putting on the chemist hat: fluoride is actually just the name for the negative ion for fluorine. So what they add to water is either sodium fluoride, fluorosilicate acid, or sodium fluorosilicate.

Fun fact: hydrofluoric acid is some of the scariest shit out there.

So, what was he talking about? This guy wasn’t trying to scare me—he’s pretty straight about stuff. Was he talking about hydrofluoric acid then and why would the water co have it?

330 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:48:59pm

re: #321 FemNaziBitch

I thought it might work well for all the stuff that never sells in the garage sales.

It’s a nice way to make a very big mess and have very serious repercussions for both you and the environment.

Treatment for a hydrofluoric acid spill is different than most other acids/bases.

In case of contact, immediately flush skin with plenty of water for at least 15 minutes while removing contaminated clothing and shoes. Cover the irritated skin with an emollient. Cold water may be used. Wash clothing before reuse. Thoroughly clean shoes before reuse. Get medical attention immediately. While waiting for medical attention, it has been shown that flushing the affected area with water for one minute and then massaging HF Antidote Gel into the wound until there is a cessation of pain is a most effective first aid treatment. HF Antidote Gel contains Calcium Gluconate which combines with HF for insoluble Calcium Fluoride, thus preventing the extraction of calcium from the body tissue and bones. Another alternative first aid treatment, after thorough washing of the burned area, is to immerse the burned area in a solution of 0.2% iced aqueous Hyamine 1622 or 0.13% iced aqueous Zephiran Chloride. If immersion is inpractical, towels should be soaked with one of the above solutions and used as compresses for the burn area. Hyamine 1622 is a trade name for Tetracaine Benzethonium Chloride. Zephiran is a trade name for Benzalkonium Chloride. Again, seek medical attention as soon as possible for all burns regardless of how minor they may appear initially.

No, really. This shit is scary.

331 A Mom Anon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:49:10pm

re: #317 FemNaziBitch
You’d think that from the way things are.

I honestly do not understand people. Rich assholes like Rush Limbaugh, who has admitted more than once he has no insurance, he pays cash for all his medical and dental stuff (and at 100K A WEEK as his salary, he can afford it). He sits on his cystic ass yammering on the radio telling people not to sign up for the ACA and to be scared of it. AND PEOPLE BELEIVE HIM. It’s stunning to me. All these fuckers are wealthy beyond most people’s dreams and they sit there and lie and scare people all day. How did we get here? More importantly, how can we fix it?

332 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:49:30pm

Did I tell you I had a wonderful birthday?

I have a wonderful husband and son.

:)

333 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:51:48pm

re: #293 FemNaziBitch

I do cut my own skin tags off! Neosporin with Lidocain and sharp small scissors. Dermatologist charges $250 and insurance doesn’t pay. Have yet to have a problem.

I have been known to cut deep slivers out of various parts of my body (eye excluded, metal sliver that made it around the safety goggles) instead of going to a doctor because of the cost, even though I have insurance.

Hell Lizards, I don’t understand the shock that I pull my own teeth is causing.

I have insurance, yet I resort to these methodes to save money because even though my insurance by todays standards is good, it doesn’t cover everything and has a (soon to be gone) $1,000,000.00 lifetime cap.

If I am willing to do these things to save money while insured, what the hell are those people WITHOUT insurance willing to do for themselves.

Think about it.

334 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:52:09pm

re: #331 A Mom Anon

You’d think that from the way things are.

I honestly do not understand people. Rich assholes like Rush Limbaugh, who has admitted more than once he has no insurance, he pays cash for all his medical and dental stuff (and at 100K A WEEK as his salary, he can afford it). He sits on his cystic ass yammering on the radio telling people not to sign up for the ACA and to be scared of it. AND PEOPLE BELEIVE HIM. It’s stunning to me. All these fuckers are wealthy beyond most people’s dreams and they sit there and lie and scare people all day. How did we get here? More importantly, how can we fix it?

Yeah, I’m really tired of the “I can do it, so can they” attitude people with stable lives often have.

One of my girlfriends says it best “Life Happens”. We are not totally in control of our destiny —free will and all that only affects how we choose to react and the attitude we take.

335 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:52:22pm

re: #329 Justanotherhuman

So, what was he talking about? This guy wasn’t trying to scare me—he’s pretty straight about stuff. Was he talking about hydrofluoric acid then and why would the water co have it?

It’s possible that it was the fluorosilicic acid, which is a liquid and as an acid, probably could do some nasty things to the metal if it sat long enough at the strengths they add it at. Most things at high concentration can be dangerous.

I’m not doubting what he said, just a bit of pedantry. :) All of those additions are just a way to get the fluoride ion into the water - they’ll dissociate in one way or another to result in free little fluoride ions floating around, which will then end up in your mouth and can create an enamel-like substance on your teeth to help prevent cavities.

336 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:52:28pm

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

No, not people —maybe garbage, toxic waste, there have to be some very good reasons to use it.

Well, you could add hydrofluoric acid to your toxic waste to make it INCREDIBLY toxic waste.

337 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:54:23pm

re: #328 FemNaziBitch

No, not people —maybe garbage, toxic waste, there have to be some very good reasons to use it.

It’s used in a variety of industrial processes - it can etch things nicely, because it’s very good at eating away some things (like glass) while leaving other parts alone.

But I would never want to work with it.

338 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:57:05pm

re: #335 dr. klys

It’s possible that it was the fluorosilicic acid, which is a liquid and as an acid, probably could do some nasty things to the metal if it sat long enough at the strengths they add it at. Most things at high concentration can be dangerous.

I’m not doubting what he said, just a bit of pedantry. :) All of those additions are just a way to get the fluoride ion into the water - they’ll dissociate in one way or another to result in free little fluoride ions floating around, which will then end up in your mouth and can create an enamel-like substance on your teeth to help prevent cavities.

I grew up in a rural area with no fluoridated water, and by the time I was 22, I already needed a root canal in addition to having amalgam in every damn molar and one or two bicuspids. It was almost like my teeth got cavities as soon as they erupted.

My son is 22, grew up with fluoridated water and never had a single goddam cavity. Lucky bastard.

339 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:57:29pm

re: #337 dr. klys

It’s used in a variety of industrial processes - it can etch things nicely, because it’s very good at eating away some things (like glass) while leaving other parts alone.

But I would never want to work with it.

So, all that garbage floating in the ocean that made itself into an island. A team of scientists couldn’t figure-out a way to disappear it with the stuff?

Just using my creative skills …

340 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:57:39pm

re: #335 dr. klys

It’s possible that it was the fluorosilicic acid, which is a liquid and as an acid, probably could do some nasty things to the metal if it sat long enough at the strengths they add it at. Most things at high concentration can be dangerous.

I’m not doubting what he said, just a bit of pedantry. :) All of those additions are just a way to get the fluoride ion into the water - they’ll dissociate in one way or another to result in free little fluoride ions floating around, which will then end up in your mouth and can create an enamel-like substance on your teeth to help prevent cavities.

Thanks. I’m here to learn. : )

341 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:58:39pm

re: #331 A Mom Anon

telling people not to sign up for the ACA

telling other people to refuse to get inexpensive health insurance is surely one of the weirdest and most back-assward political protests in history

342 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:59:19pm

re: #339 FemNaziBitch

So, all that garbage floating in the ocean that made itself into an island. A team of scientists couldn’t figure-out a way to disappear it with the stuff?

Just using my creative skills …

Well, depends on what the garbage is. If it’s floating, chances are good it’s probably plastic. A lot of plastics are minimally affected by HF; that’s why we use the Rubbermaid to store it.

I’m sure some solution could be come up with to deal with the trash, but raining HF down upon it is likely not one.

343 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 4:59:49pm

re: #341 dog philosopher

telling other people to refuse to get inexpensive health insurance is surely one of the weirdest and most back-assward political protests in history

Survival of the Fittest! Seems to be their version of Christianity and The American Myth.

344 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:00:50pm

re: #340 Justanotherhuman

Thanks. I’m here to learn. : )

I’m here to learn and - at the moment - to avoid the math proofs. Ugh. When I finish this problem set there are NO MORE until after Thanksgiving.

345 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:01:24pm

re: #342 dr. klys

Well, depends on what the garbage is. If it’s floating, chances are good it’s probably plastic. A lot of plastics are minimally affected by HF; that’s why we use the Rubbermaid to store it.

I’m sure some solution could be come up with to deal with the trash, but raining HF down upon it is likely not one.

dump it in rush limbaugh’s back yard and let him come up with a market oriented solution

346 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:01:46pm

re: #344 dr. klys

I’m here to learn and - at the moment - to avoid the math proofs. Ugh. When I finish this problem set there are NO MORE until after Thanksgiving.

Did you lose a bet? Have delusions you are in GITMO?

You can pay people to torture you if it’s really what you are into . .


:0

347 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:02:22pm

re: #339 FemNaziBitch

So, all that garbage floating in the ocean that made itself into an island. A team of scientists couldn’t figure-out a way to disappear it with the stuff?

Just using my creative skills …

The problem with chemistry to dispose of things is that chemical reactions are equations.

That is, if you add Nasty Shit A to Nasty Shit B to get rid of it, it doesn’t disappear, but rather turns into (potentially) Nasty Shit C (and possibly D). Dump a pile of garbage into a vat of toxic acid and you’ll end up with a vat of dirty, toxic acid, with some other nasty shit.

That’s why Magic would be so much better. *POOF!!* Gone!

348 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:02:44pm

re: #346 FemNaziBitch

Did you lose a bet? Have delusions you are in GITMO?

You can pay people to torture you if it’s really what you are into . .

:0

I am the poster child for cannot figure out what I want to do when I grow up, so I collect degrees.

At least, if you listen to my mother, that is a valid description of what’s happened.

349 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:03:24pm

re: #338 GeneJockey

I grew up in a rural area with no fluoridated water, and by the time I was 22, I already needed a root canal in addition to having amalgam in every damn molar and one or two bicuspids. It was almost like my teeth got cavities as soon as they erupted.

My son is 22, grew up with fluoridated water and never had a single goddam cavity. Lucky bastard.

I think that’s what happened to my teeth (and others in my family). We moved here 14 yrs ago and it’s been downhill, toothwise, for everyone. They give fluoride tablets to the kids, but not the adults; some dentists “paint” kids’ teeth with flouride, too. I buy fluoride toothpaste, but it doesn’t really help much, and also “drinking water” which is city water, rather than spring water, since we’re on wells up here (which is spring water, a marketing term).

350 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:03:43pm

re: #347 GeneJockey

The problem with chemistry to dispose of things is that chemical reactions are equations.

That is, if you add Nasty Shit A to Nasty Shit B to get rid of it, it doesn’t disappear, but rather turns into (potentially) Nasty Shit C (and possibly D). Dump a pile of garbage into a vat of toxic acid and you’ll end up with a vat of dirty, toxic acid, with some other nasty shit.

That’s why Magic would be so much better. *POOF!!* Gone!

Magic is Science we have yet to understand.

Give the problem to a bunch of nerds in high school —I bet they’ll solve in in 60 seconds flat.

351 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:03:58pm

Time to feed the Feral Feline Overlords.

352 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:04:31pm

re: #326 calochortus

Yeah, broken fingers really aren’t something to let heal on their own. Toes on the other hand-especially the little toe-are something you may just as well deal with at home. A little “buddy taping” and you’re good.

Have a broken middle toe too. It just hangs a little to the right.

353 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:05:51pm

re: #345 dog philosopher

dump it in rush limbaugh’s back yard and let him come up with a market oriented solution

And if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.

354 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:06:28pm

re: #353 GeneJockey

And if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the precipitate.

I have that t-shirt.

No, really.

355 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:06:37pm

re: #348 dr. klys

I am the poster child for cannot figure out what I want to do when I grow up, so I collect degrees.

At least, if you listen to my mother, that is a valid description of what’s happened.

You know all that education will destroy your femininity, right? That’s why you need to do what the godly people tell you-cook, clean and have babies. The fact that’s not what you and your hubby want is irrelevant.

You can thank me for my helpful advice later.
/ ducks…

356 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:06:57pm

re: #354 dr. klys

I have that t-shirt.

No, really.

My surprise, etc.
////

357 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:09:57pm

re: #177 BongCrodny

Which Doctor are you?

Doctor Who Personality Quiz

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

I got the First Doctor.

358 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:10:36pm

re: #355 calochortus

You know all that education will destroy your femininity, right? That’s why you need to do what the godly people tell you-cook, clean and have babies. The fact that’s not what you and your hubby want is irrelevant.

You can thank me for my helpful advice later.
/ ducks…

Crap, you should have told me that earlier. I’m screwed now, i guess.

359 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:11:50pm

re: #358 dr. klys

Crap, you should have told me that earlier. I’m screwed now, i guess.

Maybe you could just forget what you’ve learned? Having kids would help you with that. Ask me how I know.

360 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:12:00pm

So, I’m still reeling about the Store Owner who put the camera’s to monitor the police.

RW Whacko’s are all over the concept of Property Rights. And, yes, this is a part of who and what we are as a country.

They are also big military/law enforcement promoters.

So, it’s ok the cops are violating the Store Owner’s property rights?

Someone help me with the logic here.

361 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:12:40pm

re: #359 calochortus

Maybe you could just forget what you’ve learned? Having kids would help you with that. Ask me how I know.

You push your brains out with the afterbirth, any residual instinct or logic circuits are then scrambled during menopause.

362 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:12:56pm

re: #348 dr. klys

I am the poster child for cannot figure out what I want to do when I grow up, so I collect degrees.

At least, if you listen to my mother, that is a valid description of what’s happened.

You’re still young yet.

My wife only just stopped taking classes in this or that, having gotten a BA in Psych, a K-12 teaching credential, Permaculture Certification, LEED Associate Certification, and several other such. What she has yet to get is a permanent job, now that the boys are growed up.

Then again, THEY have yet to get jobs, too. I jokingly said to one that he has to find a lucrative career so that he can support his brother and his Mom and Dad.

He said, “Aw, Geez! Supporting four people? Man, that’d suck!”

Just then he realized he was talking to the only one of the four of us who has an income….

363 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:13:17pm

re: #361 FemNaziBitch

You push your brains out with the afterbirth, any residual instinct or logic circuits are then scrambled during menopause.

Pretty much.

364 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:13:41pm

re: #290 FemNaziBitch

Cops are arresting people on private property when the property owner hasn’t complained or asked for their help?

Can they come into your home and arrest you for loitering in front of your TV?

Shhhh! Don’t give ‘em any ideas.

365 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:13:47pm

re: #363 calochortus

Pretty much.

And somehow we can still find the ketchup.

366 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:14:09pm

re: #365 FemNaziBitch

And somehow we can still find the ketchup.

Unlike husbands?

367 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:14:37pm

re: #366 calochortus

Unlike husbands?

I have one friend who no longer responds to her husband when he asks that question.

368 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:15:11pm

re: #366 calochortus

Unlike husbands?

You can’t find husbands?

369 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:15:26pm

re: #366 calochortus

Unlike husbands?

Hey, if it’s on the top shelf in the refrigerator I have to bend way down to see it.

370 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:15:52pm

re: #312 b_sharp

This poor Canadian sometimes has trouble relating to the medical difficulties his American friends have to suffer through.

Moi aussi.

371 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:15:54pm

re: #368 GeneJockey

You can’t find husbands?

Aren’t they usually on the couch watching sports?

372 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:16:13pm

re: #370 Romantic Heretic

Moi aussi.

I feel your pain.

373 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:16:21pm

re: #369 b_sharp

Hey, if it’s on the top shelf in the refrigerator I have to bend way down to see it.

You could move the stuff on the front of the shelves and look at what is on the rest of the shelf.

374 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:16:53pm

re: #369 b_sharp

Hey, if it’s on the top shelf in the refrigerator I have to bend way down to see it.

Awww, you poor thing.

375 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:16:57pm

re: #371 b_sharp

Aren’t they usually on the couch watching sports?

Mine is working.

376 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:17:12pm

re: #373 FemNaziBitch

You could move the stuff on the front of the shelves and look at what is on the rest of the shelf.

How does that work?

377 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:17:28pm

re: #375 FemNaziBitch

Mine is working.

Mine is cooking dinner. I win.

378 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:18:42pm

re: #376 b_sharp

How does that work?

You are a smart person. I have confidence you can work it out if you think on it. Maybe try some experiments. Put stuff on the counter and move it around —look at it from different angles, then try to visualize it in the fridge.

379 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:18:46pm

re: #367 FemNaziBitch

I have one friend who no longer responds to her husband when he asks that question.

For a long, long time, my wife used to get annoyed by being asked where things were - “Honey, where are my sunglasses?”

I kept telling her that we wouldn’t always ask her if she didn’t always know.

Finally she accepted it as her superpower.

It’s a much more useful superpower than mine, which is recognizing relatively obscure actors, like last night when I spotted a much younger “Uncle Leo” in ‘Birdman of Alcatraz’.

380 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:18:51pm

re: #360 FemNaziBitch

So, I’m still reeling about the Store Owner who put the camera’s to monitor the police.

RW Whacko’s are all over the concept of Property Rights. And, yes, this is a part of who and what we are as a country.

They are also big military/law enforcement promoters.

So, it’s ok the cops are violating the Store Owner’s property rights?

Someone help me with the logic here.

The logic for RW Whackos is simple: Earl Sampson is black and poor, so he deserves whatever he gets. If his boss keeps making trouble, then one of the cops needs to ‘Stand His Ground” and deal with that.

/Not kidding

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381 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:19:47pm

Did you know there is a Skee-Ball App for iPhone?

It’s way kewl!

382 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:20:56pm

re: #380 Dark_Falcon

The logic for RW Whackos is simple: Earl Sampson is black and poor, so he deserves whatever he gets. If his owner keeps making trouble, then one of the cops needs to ‘Stand His Ground” and deal with that.

/Not kidding

Some animals are more equal than others …

383 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:21:01pm

re: #371 b_sharp

Aren’t they usually on the couch watching sports?

Not this husband. I don’t sit on the couch watching sports, like some lame-ass cultural cliche!

No, I sit on the chair NEXT TO the couch, watching stupid TV, like a slightly different lame-ass cultural cliche.

384 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:21:09pm

re: #360 FemNaziBitch

So, I’m still reeling about the Store Owner who put the camera’s to monitor the police.

RW Whacko’s are all over the concept of Property Rights. And, yes, this is a part of who and what we are as a country.

They are also big military/law enforcement promoters.

So, it’s ok the cops are violating the Store Owner’s property rights?

Someone help me with the logic here.

This is the store owner:

“To me, these people are like family,” said Saleh, a native of Venezuela who is of Palestinian descent.

This is institutional racism. Property rights are for white Americans.

385 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:21:14pm

re: #378 FemNaziBitch

You are a smart person. I have confidence you can work it out if you think on it. Maybe try some experiments. Put stuff on the counter and move it around —look at it from different angles, then try to visualize it in the fridge.

Smartass.

386 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:23:33pm
387 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:23:45pm

re: #381 FemNaziBitch

Did you know there is a Skee-Ball App for iPhone?

It’s way kewl!

My parents were kind enough to get a Bluetooth™ keyboard for my iPad yesterday.

My wife loves it.

388 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:23:59pm

re: #383 GeneJockey

Not this husband. I don’t sit on the couch watching sports, like some lame-ass cultural cliche!

No, >I sit on the chair NEXT TO the couch, watching stupid TV, like a slightly different lame-ass cultural cliche.

I have my own leather recliner for that.

389 jamesfirecat  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:24:10pm

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

I got the First Doctor.

Believe it or not so did I DF.

390 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:24:46pm

re: #385 b_sharp

Smartass.

:)

391 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:24:59pm

This evening’s foodie comment as the West Coast hits 5:30pm and thinks of dinner:

Salmon Burger

Vino De Jure

Salmon burger, mashed potatoes*, homemade mini carrot cake, and a nice white from a winery along Seneca Lake.

* - Mashed potatoes are leftovers from company luncheon yesterday. Mixed with fresh chopped thyme, minced garlic, reheated in a casserole dish and topped with melted pepper jack cheese.

The burger was pan-fried/thawed with lemon juice and some black pepper. Garnish is fresh dill from the window box plants.

392 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:26:01pm

re: #386 Gus

[Embedded content]

Somewhere Oliver Stone cries and wipes his tears with $100 bills.

393 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:26:21pm

re: #388 b_sharp

I have my own leather recliner for that.

Moi aussi.

394 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:29:02pm

re: #380 Dark_Falcon

The logic for RW Whackos is simple: Earl Sampson is black and poor, so he deserves whatever he gets. If his boss keeps making trouble, then one of the cops needs to ‘Stand His Ground” and deal with that.

/Not kidding

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395 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:33:12pm

Not much interest in Obama’s plan to ease sanctions on Iran.

Reid pledges to move ahead with Iran sanctions in U.S. Senate

“While I support the administration’s diplomatic effort, I believe we need to leave our legislative options open to act on a new, bipartisan sanctions bill in December, shortly after we return,” Reid said.

396 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:34:01pm

re: #394 Dark_Falcon

The one thing you left out of the RW nutjob logic is “If the police are giving them trouble, they must have done something to deserve it.”

I was once discussing the Death Penalty with a RWNJ - really nice guy, great fun shoot bows’n’arras with or have a beer with - who said that he didn’t worry about innocent people being executed, because he figured if they had been arrested and tried and convicted, even if they didn’t commit THIS crime, they probably had done something to deserve it.

I didn’t know what to say to that.

397 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:35:01pm

re: #384 wrenchwench

This is the store owner:

This is institutional racism. Property rights are for white Americans.

Even more than that its a lazy police force making itself look energetic. Actually making inroads against gang crime is difficult and dangerous, requiring the police to take some risks to their lives and careers. This pack has not been pushed to do that, so they are just going through the motions while the people they are supposed to protect suffer the consequences.

398 calochortus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:36:46pm

re: #396 GeneJockey

Well, on that upbeat note about human nature, I think I’ll take care of a couple things before dinner, and then I have a meeting afterwards.

So, hasta mañana, lizards.

399 Charles Johnson  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:36:56pm
400 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:37:39pm

re: #396 GeneJockey

The one thing you left out of the RW nutjob logic is “If the police are giving them trouble, they must have done something to deserve it.”

I was once discussing the Death Penalty with a RWNJ - really nice guy, great fun shoot bows’n’arras with or have a beer with - who said that he didn’t worry about innocent people being executed, because he figured if they had been arrested and tried and convicted, >even if they didn’t commit THIS crime, they probably had done something to deserve it.

I didn’t know what to say to that.

The proper response is ‘Goodbye’.

Lately nothing else seems to be working for me….

401 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:39:00pm

re: #397 Dark_Falcon

Even more than that its a lazy police force making itself >look energetic. Actually making inroads against gang crime is difficult and dangerous, requiring the police to take some risks to their lives and careers. This pack has not been pushed to do that, so they are just going through the motions while the people they are supposed to protect suffer the consequences.

True, but they are so much more evil than lazy. The evilness allows the laziness.

402 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:39:22pm

re: #396 GeneJockey

The one thing you left out of the RW nutjob logic is “If the police are giving them trouble, they must have done something to deserve it.”

I was once discussing the Death Penalty with a RWNJ - really nice guy, great fun shoot bows’n’arras with or have a beer with - who said that he didn’t worry about innocent people being executed, because he figured if they had been arrested and tried and convicted, >even if they didn’t commit THIS crime, they probably had done something to deserve it.

I didn’t know what to say to that.

whenever i hear about stuff like this or how people deserve the income they end up with, my comeback is

“so you’re telling me life is always fair?”

403 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:39:25pm

re: #396 GeneJockey

The one thing you left out of the RW nutjob logic is “If the police are giving them trouble, they must have done something to deserve it.”

I was once discussing the Death Penalty with a RWNJ - really nice guy, great fun shoot bows’n’arras with or have a beer with - who said that he didn’t worry about innocent people being executed, because he figured if they had been arrested and tried and convicted, >even if they didn’t commit THIS crime, they probably had done something to deserve it.

I didn’t know what to say to that.

But that only applies to ‘the other’ especially if they are poor. If a middle-class white or Asian person was harassed like that by the police, the line would instead be “Oppression by the blue thugs of the State!1 This injustice will not stand!!11 WE NEED TO ARM OURSELVES TO FIGHT THE OLIGARHY THAT HAS HIJACKED OUR COUNTRY!!!111”

404 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:39:59pm

re: #396 GeneJockey

The one thing you left out of the RW nutjob logic is “If the police are giving them trouble, they must have done something to deserve it.”

I was once discussing the Death Penalty with a RWNJ - really nice guy, great fun shoot bows’n’arras with or have a beer with - who said that he didn’t worry about innocent people being executed, because he figured if they had been arrested and tried and convicted, >even if they didn’t commit THIS crime, they probably had done something to deserve it.

I didn’t know what to say to that.

I would have said, Would you want to be treated that way?

405 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:40:11pm
406 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:41:18pm

Ezra Klein:
Nine reasons the filibuster change is a huge deal

5. As Gregory Koger, a University of Miami political scientist who researches the filibuster, told me: “Over the last 50 years, we have added a new veto point in American politics. It used to be the House, the Senate and the president, and now it’s the House, the president, the Senate majority and the Senate minority. Now you need to get past four veto points to pass legislation. That’s a huge change of constitutional priorities. But it’s been done, almost unintentionally, through procedural strategies of party leaders.”

407 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:43:10pm

re: #401 wrenchwench

True, but they are so much more evil than lazy. The evilness allows the laziness.

I’m not so sure. You’re surely right that Miami Gardens has cops that would never have been allowed on the force in cities with proper hiring policies such as New York or Houston. But some of those cops likely would have been good officers had they been properly trained and lead from the start. Now, though, they’re likely worthless, since it’s very hard to undo ingrained bad habits in an adult.

408 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:46:08pm

re: #407 Dark_Falcon

I’m not so sure. You’re surely right that Miami Gardens has cops that would never have been allowed on the force in cities with proper hiring policies such as New York or Houston. But some of those cops likely would have been good officers had they been properly trained and lead from the start. Now, though, they’re likely worthless, since it’s very hard to undo ingrained bad habits in an adult.

I’m sure some joined as good cops, but when you have to function with a bunch of corrupt cops, you either quit or become one. Any other choice is extremely difficult, with possibly the same result, or worse.

409 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:47:21pm

re: #400 wrenchwench

The proper response is ‘Goodbye’.

Lately nothing else seems to be working for me….

That’s the thing - he’s not a BAD person. He’s a CLUELESS person. And I don’t think there’s any comeback or explanation that would have penetrated. It was simply HIS experience that police don’t hassle you unless you deserve it, THEREFORE if you’re being hassled by police, you did something to merit it.

This was the take-home lesson from 10 years hanging out on a bowhunting forum, that people could be the sweetest, most generous, funny guys - guys who would invite you to their best hunting spot, or put you up at their house, etc - and think and say things like that, or say that we should deport all Muslims. We’re not even talking the hardcore racist shit, just stuff so profoundly wrong it takes a moment to register what they really said.

410 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:47:46pm

re: #405 Backwoods_Sleuth

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411 jaunte  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:48:19pm
412 Tigger2  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:48:59pm

re: #171 Kragar

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I think it’s about time for that twitter God guy to pay him a visit and tell him to shut up.

413 wrenchwench  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:49:34pm

Later, lizards.

414 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:50:23pm

re: #413 wrenchwench

Later, lizards.

Night WW.

415 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:50:34pm

re: #397 Dark_Falcon

Even more than that its a lazy police force making itself >look energetic. Actually making inroads against gang crime is difficult and dangerous, requiring the police to take some risks to their lives and careers. This pack has not been pushed to do that, so they are just going through the motions while the people they are supposed to protect suffer the consequences.

Leads me to believe someone is profiting from the actual gang crime, thus leading the police to stay away from actual crime and harass law-abiding citizens.

IOW, corruption.

416 bratwurst  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:51:04pm
417 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:52:04pm

re: #416 bratwurst

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If I’d been drinking anything, I’d have done a Danny Thomas-level spit take. That’s priceless.

418 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:53:43pm

re: #177 BongCrodny

Which Doctor are you?

I got the Tenth.

Or the Eleventh, depending on how you interpret John Hurt. :-)

Me too!

419 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:55:06pm

re: #409 GeneJockey

That’s the thing - he’s not a BAD person. He’s a CLUELESS person. And I don’t think there’s any comeback or explanation that would have penetrated. It was simply HIS experience that police don’t hassle you unless you deserve it, THEREFORE if you’re being hassled by police, you did something to merit it.

This was the take-home lesson from 10 years hanging out on a bowhunting forum, that people could be the sweetest, most generous, funny guys - guys who would invite you to their best hunting spot, or put you up at their house, etc - and think and say things like that, or say that we should deport all Muslims. We’re not even talking the hardcore racist shit, just stuff so profoundly wrong it takes a moment to register what they really said.

QFT. I have a lot of hunters and gun nuts in my life. I try to explain the importance of the words they use and it just doesn’t register. I think race-blended families the the only way to circumvent this. Until it is personal, there seems to be people WHO WILL JUST NOT GET IT.

Until it is their grandchild, nephew or sister-in-law that is affected—they won’t pay attention.

420 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:57:52pm

re: #241 GeneJockey

Eeeewww!

Gin + CountryTime Lemonade Mix + tonic water = freshman year of college.

421 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:58:20pm

re: #420 chadu

Gin + CountryTime Lemonade Mix + tonic water = freshman year of college.

anything with Southern Comfort.

422 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 5:58:23pm

re: #243 Kragar

All the updings!

423 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:00:02pm

re: #420 chadu

Gin + CountryTime Lemonade Mix + tonic water = freshman year of college.

Gin + I don’t remember what = a night hugging the toilet and a day spent lying in bed with periodic returns to the toilet.

I no longer have any actual memories of it, but I can’t bring myself to think of drinking gin.

424 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:00:22pm

re: #268 Kragar

DOUBLE ALL THE UPDINGS!

425 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:03:06pm

re: #216 Justanotherhuman

Yes, and like a lot of people my age (72), I didn’t get regular dental visits as a kid. I was in my 20s and on my own totally when I finally had regular dental care. Most of my fillings are 30-50 yrs old, and as they fall out, there is decay underneath, so the tooth has to go. It’s the reason so many elderly people have dentures, and I’ve been lucky that I still have most of my teeth left, but they may not last much longer. Even though I took care of my teeth, flossing, cleaning, etc. during adulthood, I’m losing them at a fairly steady clip now. Most people undergo a lot of bone loss under the teeth as they age—it’s almost inevitable, and that loosens teeth, too.

Zedushka was dentist-phobic for 40 years, he claimed he had a “Marathon Man” dentist as a kid.

I got him on my dental plan last year and he finally got dentures.

426 Kragar  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:06:14pm

My brother is one of the critics who got quoted for this commercial

Youtube Video

427 Amory Blaine  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:09:26pm

re: #21 wrenchwench

I guess in Congress now it’s the NAZI FRUIT people vs the FROOT LOOPS.

I eat Froot Loops for BREAKFAST!!!

~Harry Reid

428 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:10:08pm

re: #426 Kragar

My brother is one of the critics who got quoted for this commercial

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Please offer him our congratulations.

429 Amory Blaine  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:10:57pm

My wife has impeccable dental hygiene. I sometimes wonder why she even kisses me…

430 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:11:24pm

re: #426 Kragar

My brother is one of the critics who got quoted for this commercial

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Nothing to lose your head over.

Youtube Video

431 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:16:10pm


Case Closed
by Gerald Posner

The assassination of John F. Kennedy on November 22, 1963, continues to inspire interest ranging from well-meaning speculation to bizarre conspiracy theories and controversial filmmaking. But in this landmark book, reissued with a new afterword for the 40th anniversary of the assassination, Gerald Posner examines all of the available evidence and reaches the only possible conclusion: Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. There was no second gunman on the grassy knoll. The CIA was not involved. And although more than four million pages of documents have been released since Posner first made his case, they have served only to corroborate his findings. Case Closed remains the classic account against which all books about JFK’s death must be measured.

432 compound_Idaho  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:16:17pm

re: #423 GeneJockey

Gin + I don’t remember what = a night hugging the toilet and a day spent lying in bed with periodic returns to the toilet.

I no longer have any actual memories of it, but I can’t bring myself to think of drinking gin.

GIN! I have to comment. Does anyone really like gin? My aversion goes back to one particular episode in my early 20’s during a ski week in Utah.

BTW Salt Lake City is the best place to live if you are a skier. I have lived in Utah, Idaho, and Colorado (Denver). The Utah slopes and the prices cannot be beaten.

433 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:17:34pm

IT’S CHERRY PIE!

434 BongCrodny  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:17:44pm

re: #423 GeneJockey

Gin + I don’t remember what = a night hugging the toilet and a day spent lying in bed with periodic returns to the toilet.

I no longer have any actual memories of it, but I can’t bring myself to think of drinking gin.

Gin is my arch-enemy.

Waaay back in 19 and 76, some friends and I had a party. I had just been introduced to what I thought was a marvelous concoction known as a “screwdriver.”

I got beyond wasted; my friends later told me that I spent close to an hour drinking from an empty glass with absolutely no understanding of what was going on at the time.

Not to go *all* Breaking Bad here, but I did wake up with vomit on the bed, my clothes, my face. They say God looks after fools, and I guess I must be living proof of that.

Haven’t touched the stuff since.

435 Amory Blaine  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:19:18pm

Tanqueray=falling down under the pine trees. Precious moments.

436 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:19:41pm

Whoops! I did it again!
Forgot we have an ice storm tonight..No food in the house..Winston and I ate it watching the Thunder game and the NFL.
You just don’t do that in Oklahoma..Go unprepared.. I’ll be pissed at breakfast in the morning stuck here..
I deserve this..

437 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:19:59pm

It’s ok, if none of you like good gin, more for me to space out over many, many years.

438 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:20:48pm

re: #423 GeneJockey

Gin + I don’t remember what = a night hugging the toilet and a day spent lying in bed with periodic returns to the toilet.

I no longer have any actual memories of it, but I can’t bring myself to think of drinking gin.

I’m that way with vodka. I can TASTE it.

439 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:20:54pm

Ok, this is enjoyable
faithit.com

440 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:21:26pm

related to earlier discussion.

441 Stanley Sea  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:21:57pm

re: #436 HoosierHoops

Whoops! I did it again!
Forgot we have an ice storm tonight..No food in the house..Winston and I ate it watching the Thunder game and the NFL.
You just don’t do that in Oklahoma..Go unprepared.. I’ll be pissed at breakfast in the morning stuck here..
I deserve this..

Not even that old can of tuna in the far back of the cabinet?

442 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:22:33pm

re: #436 HoosierHoops

Oh, there’s SOMETHING in the pantry, you just don’t want to eat it ;)
Hiya Hoops!

443 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:23:55pm

re: #433 Learned Pie Of Zion

IT’S CHERRY PIE!

google.com

444 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:26:41pm


Youtube Video

445 dog philosopher  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:26:55pm

re: #433 Learned Pie Of Zion

IT’S CHERRY PIE!

piegasmic!

446 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:28:58pm

re: #441 Stanley Sea

re: #442 Dancing along the light of day

Hi You both! Couple more weeks and I’m moved..I’m so jacked up!
Paradise..Slap me..Paradise..

447 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:30:46pm
448 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:31:04pm
449 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:32:56pm

re: #434 BongCrodny

Gin is my arch-enemy.

Not to go *all* Breaking Bad here, but I did wake up with vomit on the bed, my clothes, my face. They say God looks after fools, and I guess I must be living proof of that.

Vodka, as mentioned upthread, is my enemy.

I woke up, in a toilet stall in my dorm, slamming my torso side-to-side against the walls; my jeans around my ankles, and vomit filling the crotch of them and spilling over my cowboy boots; with friends urging water and Advil on me.

First, and worst, hangover ever.

Got to pay it back to one of those friends: after his 21st, he got about as wasted as I was. While he worshiped the Great Porcelain God, we talked about literature.

“Call me Papa.”

“You’re not Ernest Hemingway, Mike. Drink more water.”

“CALL ME hork PAPA!”

*sigh* “Okay, Papa, what do you think of bullfighting?”

*a long dry retch* “They’re cool. They should have them in Africa with waterbuffalo.”

“M— Papa, you know that waterbuffalo kill more people in Africa than anything other than hippopotami, right?”

“Yesh! That’s why it would be even better!”

450 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:35:05pm
451 Gus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:35:54pm

The End

452 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:36:18pm

5 Ridiculous Sex Myths EVERYONE Believes!

453 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:36:50pm

re: #444 Gus

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The real conspiracies re: JFK are: “why did Oswald do it?” and “why did Jack Ruby kill Oswald?”

For the latter, I suspect it was his dad’s associates dealing payback, nothing more.

454 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:37:14pm

re: #436 HoosierHoops

Whoops! I did it again!
Forgot we have an ice storm tonight..No food in the house..Winston and I ate it watching the Thunder game and the NFL.
You just don’t do that in Oklahoma..Go unprepared.. I’ll be pissed at breakfast in the morning stuck here..
I deserve this..

Yep. But I am sure if you dig around you’ll find something to eat in the morning. If not, well it sucks to be you (and Winston). Sorry to have to say that. But life is harsh and generally unforgiving’

Always keep a few cans of Tuna Fish/Spam/Soup on hand for emergencies.

MRE’s are also another option. Not the worlds best food, but they will keep you alive.

455 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:37:24pm

The college game.

456 compound_Idaho  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:38:16pm

re: #449 chadu

Vodka, as mentioned upthread, is my enemy.

I woke up, in a toilet stall in my dorm, slamming my torso side-to-side against the walls; my jeans around my ankles, and vomit filling the crotch of them and spilling over my cowboy boots; with friends urging water and Advil on me.

First, and worst, hangover ever.

Got to pay it back to one of those friends: after his 21st, he got about as wasted as I was. While he worshiped the Great Porcelain God, we talked about literature.

I am not ashamed to admit I love Jim Beam.

457 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:39:58pm

NEWS FLASH: JFK is dead.

No amount of talk about the killer or the means, he will still be dead.

458 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:40:18pm

re: #456 compound_Idaho

I am not ashamed to admit I love Jim Beam.

as long as it is consensual.

459 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:40:23pm

bbl

460 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:41:58pm

OK, one more.
15 Food Things Only A Jewish Kid Would Understand (PHOTOS)

461 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:44:19pm

re: #456 compound_Idaho

I am not ashamed to admit I love Jim Beam.

Phsh. I at least have higher ambitions. I go for the Crown.

462 JamesB  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:46:45pm

re: #195 GeneJockey

OTOH, when I swapped out standard Monster Cable speaker cables for their ‘Powerline’ high-grade cables, my wife, while still coming up the stairs and not knowing what I had done, said, “What did you to the sound? It’s much better!”

But yeah, I am aware of those for whom spending infinite money and time to asymptotically approach perfection is a point of pride.

The trick with speaker cables is not the brand but the wire gauge. The lower the number the better especially with long runs.

463 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:47:20pm

re: #450 Gus

464 kirkspencer  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:48:27pm

re: #454 Bubblehead II

Yep. But I am sure if you dig around you’ll find something to eat in the morning. If not, well it sucks to be you (and Winston). Sorry to have to say that. But life is harsh and generally unforgiving’

Always keep a few cans of Tuna Fish/Spam/Soup on hand for emergencies.

MRE’s are also another option. Not the worlds best food, but they will keep you alive.

I have, tucked in a couple of out-of-sight locations, some pemmican. Made right it’s got ‘shelf life’ of years. (completely dry the meat. tallow, not suet. If using dried fruit, chop fine. Pack so critters can’t get it.) It isn’t tasty. Not bad, but not something I want to snack upon. Still better than most MREs I’ve had.

465 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:48:41pm

re: #460 FemNaziBitch

OK, one more.
15 Food Things Only A Jewish Kid Would Understand (PHOTOS)

Those I love.

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466 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:52:38pm

re: #460 FemNaziBitch

Raised Catholic, but I sympathize on the latkes, kugel, brisket, (kosher) wine, horseradish (my Uncle John made both red and white that would peel paint), sinkers/floaters (dumplings, in my case), and hard candy was always around.

Big negative on the chopped livers (my family didn’t do that, so I had to get that outside; and they were wonderful!) and I learned my lesson early with the candied fruit slice thingies.

467 compound_Idaho  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:54:05pm

re: #461 Bubblehead II

Phsh. I at least have higher ambitions. I go for the Crown.

Good for you. I admire a man that keeps his principles.

I have come to deal with my limitations; oh and I usually mix. So why waste the good stuff. I am not pouring coke over Crown.

468 b_sharp  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:54:15pm

re: #457 FemNaziBitch

NEWS FLASH: JFK is dead.

No amount of talk about the killer or the means, he will still be dead.

Are you sure? Maybe he just went home.

469 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:56:41pm

re: #468 b_sharp

Are you sure? Maybe he just went home.

Very funny, Mr. Jones.

470 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:57:35pm

re: #460 FemNaziBitch

OK, one more.
15 Food Things Only A Jewish Kid Would Understand (PHOTOS)

That was epic.

471 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:58:36pm

re: #470 Learned Pie Of Zion

That was epic.

But where is the gefilte fish?

472 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 6:59:54pm

re: #464 kirkspencer

I have, tucked in a couple of out-of-sight locations, some pemmican. Made right it’s got ‘shelf life’ of years. (completely dry the meat. tallow, not suet. If using dried fruit, chop fine. Pack so critters can’t get it.) It isn’t tasty. Not bad, but not something I want to snack upon. Still better than most MREs I’ve had.

Food is food. Want to know what is bad. A 16 lb bag of dry cat food and a 32 can box of wet will feed the cats longer than what we keep on hand. But if need be, will also feed us in an emergency (after we eat the cats).

Yes, I went there.

473 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:02:59pm

re: #472 Bubblehead II

Food is food. Want to know what is bad. A 16 lb bag of dry cat food and a 32 can box of wet will feed the cats longer than what we keep on hand. But if need be, will also feed us in an emergency (after we eat the cats).

Yes, I went there.

Being in earthquake country, my emergency planning involves a rotating supply of shelf-meals, 6 15 gallon water storage jugs, changed out once a year, enough spare food for the cats, and the fact that the house was built by and survived Loma Prieta.

Probably fucked if the dam goes, but oh well.

474 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:03:01pm

re: #467 compound_Idaho

Good for you. I admire a man that keeps his principles.

I have come to deal with my limitations; oh and I usually mix. So why waste the good stuff. I am not pouring coke over Crown.

To do so would be blasphemy.

475 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:03:40pm

re: #454 Bubblehead II

Yep. But I am sure if you dig around you’ll find something to eat in the morning. If not, well it sucks to be you (and Winston). Sorry to have to say that. But life is harsh and generally unforgiving’

Always keep a few cans of Tuna Fish/Spam/Soup on hand for emergencies.

MRE’s are also another option. Not the worlds best food, but they will keep you alive.

I hear ya bro..There is a little food left..You just can’t be unprepared in Oklahoma..When I first got here I learned that laziness will fuck you up in a Tornado or Ice Storm…I shouldn’t cry.. I weigh within 5 lbs of my playing weight in College and spent 20 years building Nuclear Subs for the Navy.
I feel proud..Remember the Arco at Pearl? 80 straight 12 hour days with a few slices of pizza a day working in the Arco..The girl workers stood right beside us as we rushed to repair a Nuclear issue. We were a great team that would over come any issue for the United States Navy.. Any issue..Period..Should I bring up in the 90’s when the Navy had a great many women join the workforce? I am so fucking proud of their skills and hard work..You have no idea how hard it is to build a Sub..Our American Apprentices excelled..

476 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:04:07pm

re: #471 Learned Pie Of Zion

But where is the gefilte fish?

Goy as I am, I love gefilte fish and pickled herring.

Hell, all Juice cuisine is tasty as hell.

(I am sad inside that some stricter Juice cannot enjoy a bacon cheeseburger, but there’s other kosher stuff that equals such tastiness, so it’s all good.)

477 kirkspencer  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:06:21pm

re: #472 Bubblehead II

Food is food. Want to know what is bad. A 16 lb bag of dry cat food and a 32 can box of wet will feed the cats longer than what we keep on hand. But if need be, will also feed us in an emergency (after we eat the cats).

Yes, I went there.

No, bad is knowing which brands taste better.

478 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:06:26pm

re: #476 chadu

Goy as I am, I love gefilte fish and pickled herring.

Hell, all Juice cuisine is tasty as hell.

(I am sad inside that some stricter Juice cannot enjoy a bacon cheeseburger, but there’s other kosher stuff that equals such tastiness, so it’s all good.)

I don’t shop at Whole Foods any more, but one time when I was there I was browsing the vegan “cheez” cooler and I thought HEY I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER. But then I looked at the ingredients of the vegan “cheez” and I’m like THIS SHIT IS NOT FOOD.

Never craved a cheezburger again.

479 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:06:44pm

re: #432 compound_Idaho

GIN! I have to comment. Does anyone really like gin? My aversion goes back to one particular episode in my early 20’s during a ski week in Utah.

BTW Salt Lake City is the best place to live if you are a skier. I have lived in Utah, Idaho, and Colorado (Denver). The Utah slopes and the prices cannot be beaten.

A substantial portion of my family do, mostly in the form of Gin and Tonics. (parents and sibs, not wife and kids).

480 dr. klys  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:08:35pm

re: #479 GeneJockey

A substantial portion of my family do, mostly in the form of Gin and Tonics. (parents and sibs, not wife and kids).

At least someone in your bloodline has sense.

///

481 GeneJockey  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:10:35pm

re: #433 Learned Pie Of Zion

IT’S CHERRY PIE!

No Christians were exsanguinated in the making of this pie.
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482 Romantic Heretic  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:19:12pm

re: #461 Bubblehead II

Phsh. I at least have higher ambitions. I go for the Crown.

Auchroisk, Glenfiddich or Glenmorangie for me.

483 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:19:34pm

re: #481 GeneJockey

No Christians were exsanguinated in the making of this pie.
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But many innocent cherries were sacrificed.

484 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:22:23pm

re: #478 Learned Pie Of Zion

I don’t shop at Whole Foods any more, but one time when I was there I was browsing the vegan “cheez” cooler and I thought HEY I CAN HAZ CHEEZBURGER. But then I looked at the ingredients of the vegan “cheez” and I’m like THIS SHIT IS NOT FOOD.

Never craved a cheezburger again.

Check Trader Joe’s for the same thing, if there’s one around you.

They seem to do a better job with vegetarian/vegan ingredients. And, they don’t really carry much processed meat food itemss (just raw meat and lunchmeats).

485 chadu  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:24:21pm

Dear Sweet Baby Jebus, why cannot I have pierogies delivered to me at this very moment?

I must have sinned somehow.

486 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:33:57pm

re: #482 Romantic Heretic

Auchroisk, Glenfiddich or Glenmorangie for me.

I do have a budget you know.

Alley Cat or Meow Mix for the dry.

9 Lives or Friskies for the wet.

Decisions, Decisions……..

Edit..
Forgot the snark tags.
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487 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:41:10pm

re: #446 HoosierHoops

Um, so glad you think you’re moving to paradise!

488 HoosierHoops  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:41:29pm

re: #485 chadu

Dear Sweet Baby Jebus, why cannot I have pierogies delivered to me at this very moment?

I must have sinned somehow.

Your sin is not living in a major college town..Anything at 4am.. It’s the law or something…

489 bigredwookie  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:43:56pm

re: #173 Justanotherhuman

If you live near a border town try Mexico…reasonable prices clean facilities and great training…many also take US dental insurance…I have been very happy with the work I got done there

490 Mentis Fugit  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 7:57:20pm

Miami Gardens police training videos:

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

491 GlutenFreeJesus  Thu, Nov 21, 2013 8:29:23pm

They are just mad there’s a black President that can pronounce “nuclear”.


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