“Quite Literally Demon-Possessed”

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Racist wingnut blogger Robert Stacy McCain chimed in on Twitter today to share an insight into yours truly:

“Literally!” Not figuratively.

Clearly I need Bobby Jindal to give me an exorcism.

Seriously, though — what do you even say about someone this deranged?

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279 comments
1 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:08:51am

“Glad it’s not me”?

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:10:18am

Charles, you really do need to polish up those scales now.

3 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:10:19am

LITERALLY!

Sorry, but if think demons are real, you don’t belong in this century.

4 Tim TeaBro  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:10:40am
Seriously, though — what do you even say about someone this deranged?

WTF

OFFS

YGTBFKM

OMFG

LOL

LOLWHUT?

STFU

5 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:10:47am
6 Decatur Deb  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:11:28am

Pea soup.

7 piratedan  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:11:29am

you suggest that they seek professional help…. although in this case, he probably calls Kelly Temps

8 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:11:42am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

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And I hear the projectile vomiting of pea soup can be a pain to get right.

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:12:13am

re: #8 Targetpractice

And I hear the projectile vomiting of pea soup can be a pain to get right.

It’s the accuracy part that’s tricky.

10 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:12:48am
11 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:13:26am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the accuracy part that’s tricky.

I’ve always gone for volume, followed up by distance.

12 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:13:48am

Summon the Inquisition!

13 Tim TeaBro  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:15:03am

You really are in HEZ HEYAD!

14 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:15:16am

re: #11 Kragar

I’ve always gone for volume, followed up by distance.

No nuance. You must be a TPer.

15 jaunte  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:15:51am

Alleged ‘journalist’ R. S. McCain is quite literally a freak.

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16 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:16:10am

re: #11 Kragar

I’ve always gone for volume, followed up by distance.

The important part is thoroughly sliming your target(s).

17 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:16:26am

re: #14 b_sharp

No nuance. You must be a TPer.

Some people are marksmen, others are flame throwers

18 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:17:08am

Demon-possessed. Is that the best he can do? I mean, really, by now all of us have acknowledged the power of Stan. It’s in the Evil Librul NWO contract. There’s a reason we sign it in blood, y’know. The Right Honorable Robert Stacy McCain is going to have to do better than that.

19 Stanley Sea  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:17:18am

His dear friend = Pam Geller.

20 Stanley Sea  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:18:00am

re: #19 Stanley Sea

His dear friend = Pam Geller.

Which says a lot right there.

21 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:18:25am

So, does this make us all Satanic minions now?

22 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:18:28am

re: #19 Stanley Sea

His dear friend = Pam Geller.

Gee, and in 2009. I wonder what could have prompted that?

23 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:20:04am

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

So, does this make us all Satanic minions now?

See my comment just upthread. You didn’t read the fine print, did you?

24 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:21:08am

re: #10 Kragar

Grrr, beat me to it!

People who literally believe in demons is why I’ll never get tired of playing Black Sabbath on my iPod, because even if Ozzy Osbourne’s music is used to sell minivans these days, there are probably still people scared shitless of his music.

25 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:22:10am

re: #24 Ian G.

Grrr, beat me to it!

People who literally believe in demons is why I’ll never get tired of playing Black Sabbath on my iPod, because even if Ozzy Osbourne’s music is used to sell minivans these days, there are probably still people scared shitless of his music.

Or just scared of Ozzy. To be fair, these days he sounds like he’s speaking in tongues anyway.

26 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:22:16am

re: #23 thedopefishlives

See my comment just upthread. You didn’t read the fine print, did you?

Ohh, THAT fine print…

(Oops.)

27 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:22:29am
28 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:23:46am

re: #27 Kragar

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Honestly, I agree with this to an extent. Krokodil will SERIOUSLY mess you up if not outright kill you. It’s extremely dangerous stuff that doesn’t need to be on the streets.

29 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:23:47am

re: #27 Kragar

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You know shit is real bad when someone in authority says, “Don’t do that stuff. Heroin is much safer.”

30 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:23:48am

re: #17 Kragar

Some people are marksmen, others are flame throwers

And some are ass blasters.

31 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:24:06am

re: #27 Kragar

Hey, some sense in the war on drugs! That’s all too rare.

32 b_sharp  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:24:24am

re: #21 Eclectic Cyborg

So, does this make us all Satanic minions now?

Did we get promotions?

33 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:24:58am
Seriously, though — what do you even say about someone this deranged?

“Yeah, my girlfriend, DeMonne, I’ll wear her handcuffs any time!”

NTTAWWT

34 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:25:18am

re: #25 Targetpractice

Or just scared of Ozzy. To be fair, these days he sounds like he’s speaking in tongues anyway.

It always amazes me how Ozzy is the same age as my father, and yet seems 30 years older and completely senile. And my father did more than his fair share of drugs in the late 60s/early 70s. Cripes, how much did Ozzy do?

35 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:26:08am

re: #29 GeneJockey

You know shit is real bad when someone in authority says, “Don’t do that stuff. Heroin is much safer.”

Krokodil is some seriously evil shit. Anyone who makes and sells it should be put away for life.

36 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:26:09am

re: #34 Ian G.

It always amazes me how Ozzy is the same age as my father, and yet seems 30 years older and completely senile. And my father did more than his fair share of drugs in the late 60s/early 70s. Cripes, how much did Ozzy do?

Enough. Keith Richards still has him beat.

37 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:26:22am

re: #34 Ian G.

It always amazes me how Ozzy is the same age as my father, and yet seems 30 years older and completely senile. And my father did more than his fair share of drugs in the late 60s/early 70s. Cripes, how much did Ozzy do?

I heard or read a good line about Keith Richards telling kids to not do drugs: “Keith, we can’t do any more drugs, because you already did them all. We have to wait until you die, then smoke your ashes.”

38 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:26:29am

Hey don’t feel bad Charles they say we all should get more excorcise.

39 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:27:01am

re: #35 Kragar

Krokodil is some seriously evil shit. Anyone who makes and sells it should be put away for life.

Or given a few doses….

But there’s that whole “cruel and unusual” thing.

40 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:27:22am

re: #39 GeneJockey

Or given a few doses….

But there’s that whole “cruel and unusual” thing.

When the people who make it refuse to use it, you know it’s bad.

41 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:27:39am

re: #38 Political Atheist

Hey don’t feel bad Charles they say we all should get more >excorcise.

The power of Pie compels you!


The power of Pie compels you!

42 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:27:56am

re: #37 thedopefishlives

I heard or read a good line about Keith Richards telling kids to not do drugs: “Keith, we can’t do any more drugs, because you already did them all. We have to wait until you die, then smoke your ashes.”

I do believe Dennis Leary was the original source of that line.

43 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:28:44am

re: #27 Kragar

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The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

Lovely.

44 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:28:44am

re: #40 thedopefishlives

When the people who make it refuse to use it, you know it’s bad.

“No, no, that’s okay! These sleeves are a bitch to roll up.”

45 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:28:47am

re: #35 Kragar

Krokodil is some seriously evil shit. Anyone who makes and sells it should be put away for life.

The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. This is what that stuff is? And people think it’s going to give them a high?

46 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:29:26am
47 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:29:53am

re: #43 Learned Pie Of Zion

The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

Lovely.

I’m guessing you don’t cook it up in a spoon over an open flame.

48 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:30:14am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

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Demons are the REAL racists.

49 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:31:17am

re: #45 Ian G.

The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. This is what that stuff is? And people think it’s going to give them a high?

I think there are less dangerous ways to prepare high explosives. Forget a meth lab - this shit’ll blow up your entire neighborhood.

50 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:31:39am

re: #45 Ian G.

The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. This is what that stuff is? And people think it’s going to give them a high?

Apparently it does get you high as fuck and is extremely addictive.

It also eats away your flesh, poisons you and causes infections.

Do not search for images of Krokodil.

Just don’t. Some users had their flesh rot away down to the bone.

51 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:31:44am

re: #45 Ian G.

The extremely addictive, injectable opioid is made by mixing codeine tablets with gasoline, paint thinner, iodine, kitchen and bathroom cleaner, hydrochloric acid or red phosphorous from matches.

WHAT. THE. FUCK. This is what that stuff is? And people think it’s going to give them a high?

Apparently it actually DOES, which is part of the problem.

Better Shorter living through chemistry.

52 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:32:41am

Also, if you’re desperate for a fix, why not just pop codeine tablets? That’s probably the only thing in that mix that will give you a high. Granted, I’m no junkie, but I did have tylenol with codeine as a prescription once and damn, were those fun!

53 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:32:49am

re: #46 Charles Johnson

Sounds like you need a Doctor… The Doctor.


Seriously though, these folks are rather obsessed with you. Even though these same people think you’re irrelevant. Rather odd how that works.

You’re irrelevant, but they’re obsessed with you all at once.

What does all this say about them? Nothing good. That’s for sure.

54 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:33:55am

re: #52 Ian G.

Also, if you’re desperate for a fix, why not just pop codeine tablets? That’s probably the only thing in that mix that will give you a high. Granted, I’m no junkie, but I did have tylenol with codeine as a prescription once and damn, were those fun!

I think part of the high of this substance is the extreme danger factor. After all, there are people who enjoy danger as a sexual turn-on, I imagine there are people who are similarly addicted to the thrill of possible death. Those kinds of people should try extreme sports rather than melting their faces off with extreme drugs, though.

55 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:34:14am

re: #42 Targetpractice

I do believe Dennis Leary was the original source of that line.

Yep; it’s from “No Cure For Cancer”.

56 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:34:16am

re: #53 lawhawk

Sounds like you need a Doctor… The Doctor.

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Seriously though, these folks are rather obsessed with you. Even though these same people think you’re irrelevant. Rather odd how that works.

You’re irrelevant, but they’re obsessed with you all at once.

What does all this say about them? Nothing good. That’s for sure.

“Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.”

57 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:34:57am

re: #54 thedopefishlives

I think part of the high of this substance is the extreme danger factor. After all, there are people who enjoy danger as a sexual turn-on, I imagine there are people who are similarly addicted to the thrill of possible death. Those kinds of people should try extreme sports rather than melting their faces off with extreme drugs, though.

In the case above, the victim thought she was buying heroin, but was instead sold Krokodil.

58 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:34:59am
59 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:35:12am

re: #52 Ian G.

Also, if you’re desperate for a fix, why not just pop codeine tablets? That’s probably the only thing in that mix that will give you a high. Granted, I’m no junkie, but I did have tylenol with codeine as a prescription once and damn, were those fun!

I wish. Codeine? Serious upset stomach. Morphine? Can’t keep water down. High? Not so much.

60 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:35:58am

re: #52 Ian G.

Also, if you’re desperate for a fix, why not just pop codeine tablets? That’s probably the only thing in that mix that will give you a high. Granted, I’m no junkie, but I did have tylenol with codeine as a prescription once and damn, were those fun!

I take Vicodin for a chronic pain condition, because I am allergic to ibuprofen.

In spite of the “House” TV show where Greg Laurie pops Vicodins and gets bug-eyed, Vicodin really does not get you high. It is just a painkiller.

Ocycontin, I have never taken, I have heard that gets you totally high.

61 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:36:51am

re: #57 Kragar

In the case above, the victim thought she was buying heroin, but was instead sold Krokodil.

Yeah, I noticed that. Which means that there are some nasty people out there who like doing physical harm to others in as sneaky a fashion as possible.

62 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:37:59am

re: #53 lawhawk

Sounds like you need a Doctor… The Doctor.

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Seriously though, these folks are rather obsessed with you. Even though these same people think you’re irrelevant. Rather odd how that works.

You’re irrelevant, but they’re obsessed with you all at once.

What does all this say about them? Nothing good. That’s for sure.

These are people who are really screwed up in the head. Not well. Not well at all.

63 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:38:24am

re: #60 Learned Pie Of Zion

Ocycontin, I have never taken, I have heard that gets you totally high.

My Mom took that for a while. Said it just made her head (mind, really) feel like it was stuffed with fiberfill or something.
I suspect my family and drugs aren’t a great combination.

64 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:40:20am

re: #59 calochortus

I wish. Codeine? Serious upset stomach. Morphine? Can’t keep water down. High? Not so much.

I was on Vicodin for a couple days after I tore my right clavicle lose at the distal end, running into the side of car while cycling. I didn’t feel high, but I DID feel apathetic. So much so that I realized that if my wife had been in an amorous mood, I’d have prefered not to be bothered.

That realization scared the shit out of me, so I stopped taking it immediately.

Years later, my doc prescribed it for a kidney stone, but as far as I could tell, it didn’t help. Mind you, perhaps it would have been worse without it, but I can’t imagine how.

65 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:42:35am

People are sensitive today.

66 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:45:04am

re: #64 GeneJockey

Yeah, I had minor knee surgery some years ago and since I was warned to ‘stay ahead of the pain’ I took the first 2 doses of Vicodin they provided me with. I couldn’t stand the drugged feeling and remember how great I felt when I stopped. Too much pain to sleep, but I still felt better than I had.
Then came the knee replacement (where I experienced the charms of morphine.) Tylenol and ice were much, much better.

67 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:48:16am

Demon-possessed? LOL

By this time next week they’ll be claiming he’s Satan himself.

68 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:48:32am

Matthops82 In 2009, a dear friend told me she believed Charles Johnson was quite literally demon-possessed.
— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) November 22, 2013

So, Charles has been quite-literally demon-possessed for at least four years?

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69 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:49:31am

re: #67 CuriousLurker

Demon-possessed? LOL

By this time next week they’ll be claiming he’s Satan himself.

Nah. That’s still Obama.

70 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:49:36am

re: #50 Kragar

Just don’t. Some users had their flesh rot away down to the bone.

This implies the bones themselves are unaffected, which is false. That shit eats them away too. Horrible, horrible, stuff.

71 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:51:29am

Ray Charles, when someone asks you if you’re a god demon-possessed, you say “YES”!

72 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:53:26am

re: #9 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s the accuracy part that’s tricky.

However, like using a flamethrower, accuracy is not a big worry.

73 Bulworth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:53:41am

Usually quite-literally versions of demon possession don’t last long. //

74 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:53:49am

re: #67 CuriousLurker

Demon-possessed? LOL

By this time next week they’ll be claiming he’s Satan himself.

Wait, so if Charles is Satan, does that mean that real “number of the beast” is 17?

/old LGF joke

75 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:54:25am
76 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:55:27am

I am deeply disappointed. Had I known this place was run by Demons I would have joined sooner. Can I be a minion? Can I huh? Please? Is there a union and health insurance included? Because that would be awesome. I feel so left out now. Damn it.

77 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:55:28am

Speaking of demon-possessed, I stumbled upon this old cereal and it seriously creeped me out. If I’d seen it as a kid It would’ve given me freaking nightmares.

WTF, Post Foods? *shudder

Youtube Video

78 The Ghost of a Flea  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:56:58am

re: #51 GeneJockey

Apparently it actually DOES, which is part of the problem.

Better Shorter living through chemistry.

Krokodil is bathtub desomorphine, and maybe a bunch of other opoids since the process isn’t exactly precise. The solvents used to alter codeine are what cause the characteristic tissue damage, since there’s not a lot of quality control in the creation process.

It’s basically drug of last resort…after you’ve destroyed yourself doing heroin, it’s the cut-rate fix that closes the curtain.

79 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:57:20am

re: #23 thedopefishlives

See my comment just upthread. You didn’t read the fine print, did you?

All I know is I signed up with some guy going by the name Lou C. Ipeher or something. He was kind of a pushy hot head.

80 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:58:31am

re: #79 ObserverArt

All I know is I signed up with some guy going by the name Lou C. Ipeher or something. He was kind of a pushy hot head.

Just don’t wager him on anything. That escalates quickly.

81 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:58:35am

re: #77 CuriousLurker

Speaking of demon-possessed, I stumbled upon this old cereal and it seriously creeped me out. If I’d seen it as a kid It would’ve given me freaking nightmares.

WTF, Post Foods? *shudder

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Oh, it’s Pennywise the Dancing Clown.

Yes, when you have that cereal for breakfast, you’ll float too. We all float down here.

82 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 11:58:48am

re: #77 CuriousLurker
So that’s where Stephen King got the idea for the clown in “It”. Yipes. (((((shudder)))))

83 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:00:41pm

re: #35 Kragar

Krokodil is some seriously evil shit. Anyone who makes and sells it should be put away for life.

Can’t say I’ve heard of this one. Is it a new designer drug of some kind, and how long has it been around?

(Need to do some research)

84 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:01:05pm

re: #83 ObserverArt

Can’t say I’ve heard of this one. Is it a new designer drug of some kind, and how long has it been around?

(Need to do some research)

Keep reading. You’ll run into some details that will probably make you sick.

85 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:01:29pm

ooh! ooh!
I wanna be one of the MIB (Minions in Black)!

86 Eclectic Cyborg  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:01:51pm

re: #85 Backwoods_Sleuth

ooh! ooh!
I wanna be one of the MIB (Minions in Black)!

We make this look good.

87 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:01:52pm

re: #77 CuriousLurker

Speaking of demon-possessed, I stumbled upon this old cereal and it seriously creeped me out. If I’d seen it as a kid It would’ve given me freaking nightmares.

WTF, Post Foods? *shudder

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Yikes! If that freak had jumped out of the ground in front of me when I was 5 or 6 and yelled “I’M HUNGRY!” I would immediately have assumed I had run afoul of a cannibal mutant and run the other way as fast as my feet would carry me. Hell, I might do that now.

88 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:02:03pm

Well, well, well - seems a GOP woman is coming late to the realization that her party sucks for women:

talkingpointsmemo.com

The new chair of Washington state’s Republican party accused her colleagues this week of playing into the “war on women” narrative against the GOP by denying her equal pay for equal work.

Susan Hutchison pulls in a salary of $75,000 a year — a $20,000 cut from the salary earned by her male predecessor — and tried unsuccessfully to request a pay raise last weekend, according to an internal party memo sent Monday and obtained by the Seattle Times.

89 ObserverArt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:02:17pm

re: #36 Targetpractice

Enough. Keith Richards still has him beat.

I always figured the drugs couldn’t really affect Keith. He was already too pickled and preserved by all the alcohol and ciggys.

///

90 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:03:44pm

re: #87 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! If that freak had jumped out of the ground in front of me when I was 5 or 6 and yelled “I’M HUNGRY!” I would immediately have assumed I had run afoul of a cannibal mutant and run the other way as fast as my feet would carry me. Hell, I might do that now.

My little brother was terrified of clowns. If he’d ever seen that…

91 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:05:14pm

re: #77 CuriousLurker

Speaking of demon-possessed, I stumbled upon this old cereal and it seriously creeped me out. If I’d seen it as a kid It would’ve given me freaking nightmares.

WTF, Post Foods? *shudder

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I wonder if that was the inspiration for this freaky Primus song?

Youtube Video

92 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:05:28pm

Desomorphine (Krokodil)

The high associated with krokodil is akin to that of heroin, but lasts a much shorter period. While the effects of heroin use can last four to eight hours, the effects of krokodil do not usually extend past one and a half hours,[16] with the symptoms of withdrawal setting in soon after. Krokodil takes roughly 30 minutes to an hour to prepare with over-the-counter ingredients in a kitchen.[17]

Since the homemade mix is routinely injected immediately with little or no further purification, krokodil has become notorious for producing severe tissue damage, phlebitis and gangrene, sometimes requiring limb amputation in long-term users.[18] Although there are not many addicts, their life expectancies are said to be as low as two years due to injecting drug users’ high susceptibility to infections and gangrene.[19][20][21]

Abuse of homemade desomorphine was first reported in middle and eastern Siberia in 2002, but has since spread throughout Russia and the neighboring former Soviet republics. One death in Poland in December 2011 was also believed to be caused by krokodil use, and its use has been confirmed among Russian expatriate communities in a number of other European countries.[22]

Possibly the first discovery of use of the drug in the United States was reported by the Banner Poison Control Center in Phoenix, Arizona, in September 2013.[23][24] In October 2013, numerous cases of krokodil-related hospitalizations were reported in Joliet, Illinois. The drug was reported to have “flesh-eating” properties, causing open wounds around the injection site.[25][26][27] In November 2013, doctors published a paper in the American Journal of Medicine, giving details of how they treated a drug addict in December 2012 who had been using krokodil in St Louis, Missouri for eight months.[28]

93 AlexRogan  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:05:58pm

re: #4 Tim TeaBro

WTF

OFFS

YGTBFKM

OMFG

LOL

LOLWHUT?

STFU

WTFITS?

94 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:06:21pm

re: #53 lawhawk

Do you know how happy I am between this and Bon Jovi on the charts again.

Very.

It makes me think of this song:

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95 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:06:39pm

re: #93 AlexRogan

WTFITS?

OMGWTFBBQ!!!

96 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:07:25pm

re: #89 ObserverArt

I always figured the drugs couldn’t really affect Keith. He was already too pickled and preserved by all the alcohol and ciggys.

///

Keith’s an immortal. He can only be killed by his head being separated from his neck.

97 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:07:25pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

People are sensitive today.

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Look, it was 50 freaking years ago!

Like complaining that people in 1963 aren’t being “sensitive” about the Titanic.

98 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:08:49pm

re: #88 leftynyc

But I thought lower wages only applied to other people!

Apparently the excuse is:

“the salary level of the state party chair had long been a subject of discussion among its leaders.”

And it just happened to drop when a woman was elected to the post?

99 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:09:50pm

re: #88 leftynyc

Well, well, well - seems a GOP woman is coming late to the realization that her party sucks for women:

talkingpointsmemo.com

The new chair of Washington state’s Republican party accused her colleagues this week of playing into the “war on women” narrative against the GOP by denying her equal pay for equal work.

Susan Hutchison pulls in a salary of $75,000 a year — a $20,000 cut from the salary earned by her male predecessor — and tried unsuccessfully to request a pay raise last weekend, according to an internal party memo sent Monday and obtained by the Seattle Times.

“Of course we paid him more. He’s got a family to support!”

100 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:10:06pm

re: #98 calochortus

But I thought lower wages only applied to other people!

Apparently the excuse is:

And it just happened to drop when a woman was elected to the post?

My recently detonated bullshit detector begs to differ with that statement.

101 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:13:08pm

re: #100 thedopefishlives

Her response appears to have been, “Oh well, I guess I’ll just wait until you guys decide that it’s OK to pay me more when I prove myself.”

(Rolls eyes.)

102 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:13:19pm

Is that a demon in your pocket or are you just glad to see me?

103 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:13:31pm

re: #90 CuriousLurker

My little brother was terrified of clowns. If he’d ever seen that…

/

The word “coulrophobia” (“fear of clowns”) is basically an internet neologism rather than an actual clinical term, but the fear itself is very real and well documented

From wikipedia, coulrophobia (fear of clowns)

According to a psychology professor at California State University, Northridge, young children are “very reactive to a familiar body type with an unfamiliar face”. Researchers who have studied the phobia believe there is some correlation to the uncanny valley effect.

A study conducted by the University of Sheffield found that the children did not like clown décor in the hospital or physicians’ office settings. The survey was about children’s opinions on décor for an upcoming hospital redesign. Dr Penny Curtis, a researcher, stated “We found that clowns are universally disliked by children. Some found the clown images to be quite frightening and unknowable.”

104 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:13:37pm

re: #98 calochortus
That’s just a coinkydink I’m sure…I mean the GOP is God’s Own Party and they are flawless I tell you, flawless.

Let’s see if this woman continues her GOP affiliation after this. And shit, I wish I could find a job making that much. Think they’d hire me? HAHAHAHA.

105 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:14:37pm

re: #101 calochortus

Her response appears to have been, “Oh well, I guess I’ll just wait until you guys decide that it’s OK to pay me more when I prove myself.”

(Rolls eyes.)

Yeah, no, I would be all over that lawsuit. I’ve always wondered about discrimination lawsuits like that; it’s not like there’s ever any documented evidence of people actually refusing to hire or hiring at lower wages because of discriminatory criteria, is there? Isn’t it almost always a he-said-she-said deal? How do people ever actually win those?

106 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:15:02pm

re: #94 The War TARDIS

I am impressed with myself that that I can go from Doctor Who to Bon Jovi to Taylor Swift in less than a minute.

107 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:15:08pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

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Doesn’t he still have the Guardian of Forever’s phone number?

108 Ian G.  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:16:52pm

re: #97 Learned Pie Of Zion

Look, it was 50 freaking years ago!

Yeah, I’d just like to emphasize this. This might have been one of those defining moments for the boomer generation, but for many of us who have families, jobs, lives, etc., it’s as much ancient history as the Visigoth sack of Rome. I just can’t bring myself to care.

Also, yeah, he was President, but it was one man. It’s not the same as Pearl Harbor or 9/11, where thousands of lives were lost. In a society dedicated to the idea that “all men are created equal”, it should be considered no worse than a bystander caught in the crossfire of gang turf battles in inner-city Baltimore.

I dunno, that’s just how I feel.

109 Slap  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:16:53pm

Hey, Darth:

You probably are aware of this already, but I got this info from my daily Rolling Stone feed….

rollingstone.com

It is also supposed to be one of the 2014 Dave’s Picks subscription. I’m thinking I night subscribe this year….

110 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:17:43pm

re: #77 CuriousLurker

Speaking of demon-possessed, I stumbled upon this old cereal and it seriously creeped me out. If I’d seen it as a kid It would’ve given me freaking nightmares.

WTF, Post Foods? *shudder

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It’s like Kellogg’s Rice KrispiesTM but with MOAR SUGAR & MOAR TERROR!!!!

111 Political Atheist  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:17:50pm

re: #41 GeneJockey

The power of Pie compels you!

The power of Pie compels you!

I bow to the math
3.14159265

And the Ramans do everything in threes!
(Rendezvous With Rama-closing line IIRC)

112 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:18:02pm

re: #105 thedopefishlives

Yeah, no, I would be all over that lawsuit. I’ve always wondered about discrimination lawsuits like that; it’s not like there’s ever any documented evidence of people actually refusing to hire or hiring at lower wages because of discriminatory criteria, is there? Isn’t it almost always a he-said-she-said deal? How do people ever actually win those?

As far as I know, that is almost always the case. However, an awful lot of people are remarkably stupid about the things they will say in public, so sometimes the person complaining about discrimination wins.

113 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:18:29pm

re: #108 Ian G.

I’m not going to argue whether or not the political impact of JFK’s death was comparable to Pearl Harbor or 9/11, but the cultural impact was every bit as heavy.

114 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:18:48pm

re: #97 Learned Pie Of Zion

Look, it was 50 freaking years ago!

Like complaining that people in 1963 aren’t being “sensitive” about the Titanic.

And people in 1913 complaining that other people are not being “sensitive” enough about Abraham Lincoln.

115 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19:03pm

re: #111 Political Atheist

I bow to the math
3.14159265

And the Ramans do everything in threes!
(Rendezvous With Rama-closing line IIRC)

Image: pie-pi-mindblow-body.jpg

116 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19:16pm

re: #90 CuriousLurker

My little brother was terrified of clowns. If he’d ever seen that…

Hell, that cereal was form the ’60s, so maybe he did see it and that’s why he was so afraid of them. Sheeseh.

How times have changed in 50-60 years: It seems Post eventually dropped the creepy clown in favor of an Asian kid with a rickshaw. Some boxes even came with a plastic rickshaw toy, FFS. Can you imagine the reaction to such an un-PC thing today? The twitterverse would have a massive freak-out.

Reminds me of the Frito Bandido—he wouldn’t last 5 minutes today.

117 Slap  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19:33pm

re: #107 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Oooh, nice Ellison reference there…!

118 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19:42pm

re: #106 The War TARDIS

I am impressed with myself that that I can go from Doctor Who to Bon Jovi to Taylor Swift in less than a minute.

Seen the latest BBC webisode?

“This is Arcadia, safest place on all Galifrey.”

119 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:19:45pm

re: #103 Shiplord Kirel

/

The word “coulrophobia” (“fear of clowns”) is basically an internet neologism rather than an actual clinical term, but the fear itself is very real and well documented

From wikipedia, coulrophobia (fear of clowns)

Interesting, thanks!

120 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:20:36pm

re: #91 Charles Johnson

I wonder if that was the inspiration for this freaky Primus song?

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Good grief, that IS freaky—it wouldn’t surprise me.

121 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:20:55pm

re: #112 calochortus

As far as I know, that is almost always the case. However, an awful lot of people are remarkably stupid about the things they will say in public, so sometimes the person complaining about discrimination wins.

And discovery in a suit might also turn up some incriminating emails, letters, or other internal communications.

122 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:21:20pm

re: #118 Kragar

Yep!

We now know what the Fall of Arcadia was.

Not the fall of a planet, but the fall of a city. Also shows that the Time Lords were on the losing side.

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:21:53pm
124 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:22:09pm

re: #108 Ian G.

Speaking as a mid-boom boomer, I think even I was a bit young to be greatly affected. I was 10 and found it a bit confusing, but heaven is high and the emperor federal govenment was far away. Life went on. Possibly for those in their 20s and 30s who had voted for Kennedy it was far more a defining moment.

I also don’t get the “what were you doing when you heard?” thing. What difference does it make?

125 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:22:29pm

re: #108 Ian G.

Yeah, I’d just like to emphasize this. This might have been one of those defining moments for the boomer generation, but for many of us who have families, jobs, lives, etc., it’s as much ancient history as the Visigoth sack of Rome. I just can’t bring myself to care.

Also, yeah, he was President, but it was one man. It’s not the same as Pearl Harbor or 9/11, where thousands of lives were lost. In a society dedicated to the idea that “all men are created equal”, it should be considered no worse than a bystander caught in the crossfire of gang turf battles in inner-city Baltimore.

I dunno, that’s just how I feel.

Look at it this way, though. What if Obama had been assassinated in the third year of his first term? Think of all the repercussions politically, socially, culturally, economically, internationally, etc.

It was no different in 1963.

126 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:22:46pm

Speaking of demons and such, WaPo runs this RNS story:

By Michele Chabin | Religion News Service, Updated: Friday, November 22, 11:00 AM
JERUSALEM — Many artistic renderings of biblical figures hang in churches and museums, but no one really knows what they and their contemporaries looked like.

Now, an international team of archeologists, forensic anthropologists and facial reconstruction experts has tried to answer this question by recreating the faces of three adults and a newborn whose skeletal remains date back to biblical times.

A new four-part TV series, “Lost Faces of the Bible” (airing on the National Geographic Channel beginning Monday (Nov. 25)), follows the experts as they recreate long-gone faces utilizing the same state-of-the art technology used by police investigators.

The series, created by Simcha Jacobovici, a controversial Canadian-Israeli filmmaker and amateur archaeologist, suggests who these four anonymous people might have been. Along the way, it illustrates what life in the Holy Land was like thousands of years ago.

Dramatizations woven into the investigation bolster the narrative. The series is hosted by David Berman who stars in “CSI: Crime Scene Investigation.”

The first episode, “Delilah Revealed,” focuses on a Philistine woman who, the producers say, “lived at the time of the biblical Delilah,” the temptress who betrayed Samson.

The second, “Ancient Warrior,” asks whether a man buried in a desert cave with a walking stick, a pair of sandals and a broken bow lived “the same challenging life of a desert nomad like Esau,” the twin son of the biblical patriarch Isaac.

The third episode, “The Man Who Saw Jesus,” attempts to recreate the life of a man from pre-Canaanite times whose bones were interred using a special funerary practice common in Jerusalem from 20 B.C. to A.D. 70. The bones were found in a burial cave in a region of Galilee strongly associated with the ministry of Jesus. The show’s promotional material states “if Jesus was a well-known miracle worker and/or healer,” this unknown man “surely knew him.”

The final episode, “Sacrificial Child,” explores whether a baby whose remains were discovered in a Canaanite jar under a house was sacrificed by her parents, a common practice in those times.

While forensic experts have already reconstructed the faces of people from several ancient civilizations, this is apparently the first time scientists have worked with Bible-era remains, Jacobovici said.

One reason: the difficulty of obtaining the ancient bones for examination due to religious sensitivities.

“Ultra-Orthodox Jews believe you shouldn’t move the bones of the deceased,” Jacobovici explained. To get around the problem, the show’s forensic experts scanned the remains but did not incorporate them into the reconstructions.

Though Jacobovici has achieved success in the entertainment field — he’s won three Emmys, among other awards — his films, including “Nails of the Cross,” a 2011 film that suggested that nails discovered in an excavation were quite possibly the nails that pinned Jesus to the cross, were criticized by some of the archaeologists whose work he profiles. […]

Jacobovici is a sensationalist, making claims that do not stand up to academic scrutiny.

It is not surprising that the 50%-owned-by-Murdoch NGC runs sensationalistic pieces by Jacobovici.

It is surprising to me that an RNS writer would confuse late antiquity with pre-Canaanites, but maybe one doesn’t have to know anything about the history of the Levant to write on the religions of the region?

This is just another way for Murdoch and Jacobovici - and they are a match made in heaven - to make money off of America’s God-problem.

The claims of Jacobovici are not factual as in science - he is an anti-Christian activist. Now, I’m all for tearing down the facades of old and erroneous belief systems, but in this case Jacobovici only does this in an attempt to resurrect his own religious system (his variant of orthodox Judaism.)

127 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:23:23pm

re: #122 The War TARDIS

Yep!

We now know what the Fall of Arcadia was.

Not the fall of a planet, but the fall of a city. Also shows that the Time Lords were on the losing side.

I always pictured it as more of a nobody wins war, except even if they all died, the Daleks would have considered the end of the universe a win.

128 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:23:43pm

So, Charles, are you changing your name to Legion? : )

129 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:25:00pm

I wonder if we’re going to see the Master show back up for the 50th.

130 Dr. Matt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:25:52pm

Is 2009 about the time Charles realized the GOP were batshit crazy?

131 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:25:56pm

The Church Lady has spoken!

132 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:26:05pm

Charles Johnson and his Legion of Demons - sounds like a good band name to me.

133 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:26:09pm

re: #131 Gus

The Church Lady has spoken!

Hi Gus. How have things been?

134 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:26:47pm

re: #65 wrenchwench

People are sensitive today.

Max Fisher ✔ @Max_Fisher

I’m sorry but Dallas’s Texas Theater re-showing the movies police pulled Oswald out of 50 years ago is way too creepy bit.ly

re: #114 Learned Pie Of Zion

And people in 1913 complaining that other people are not being “sensitive” enough about Abraham Lincoln.

Other than that, Mr. Oswald, how did you like the movie?

135 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:27:21pm

re: #124 calochortus

I also don’t get the “what were you doing when you heard?” thing. What difference does it make?

The appeal of that topic is the same as for ‘where were you when 9/11 happened?’ and for astrology: It’s an opening for a person to talk about their self. Almost everybody loves that.

136 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:28:13pm

re: #109 Slap

Hey, Darth:

You probably are aware of this already, but I got this info from my daily Rolling Stone feed….

rollingstone.com

It is also supposed to be one of the 2014 Dave’s Picks subscription. I’m thinking I night subscribe this year….

Yeah…they’re also doing some re-releases on vinyl - for example, “One from the Vault” (Great American Music Hall, 1975)…great live recording, done because they hadn’t recorded Blues for Allah live yet (good song to trip to).

137 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:28:58pm

re: #133 thedopefishlives

Hi Gus. How have things been?

Cold. Cold. Also, cold. Warming up over the next week. Youz?

138 aagcobb  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:29:53pm

re: #66 calochortus

Yeah, I had minor knee surgery some years ago and since I was warned to ‘stay ahead of the pain’ I took the first 2 doses of Vicodin they provided me with. I couldn’t stand the drugged feeling and remember how great I felt when I stopped. Too much pain to sleep, but I still felt better than I had.
Then came the knee replacement (where I experienced the charms of morphine.) Tylenol and ice were much, much better.

I separated my shoulder whitewater rafting once many years ago. Took hours to get to a hospital with my shoulder throbbing in pain. When I got there they gave me an intravenous valium drip, and I floated away on a cloud. The doctor yanked on my arm to get it back in place, then asked me how my shoulder felt, and I said “what shoulder?”

139 thedopefishlives  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:30:25pm

re: #137 Gus

Cold. Cold. Also, cold. Warming up over the next week. Youz?

Bloody cold. Grumbling about how stupid people are when it snows. Speaking of, clearly humans aren’t the only creatures that have trouble with the stuff; saw a deer yesterday who tried to stop after crossing the road, slipped, and fell completely over. Skidded all the way across the ditch into the fence on his side. Poor little guy, he got up and scampered off in extreme embarrassment.

140 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:31:20pm

re: #135 wrenchwench

The appeal of that topic is the same as for ‘where were you when 9/11 happened?’ and for astrology: It’s an opening for a person to talk about their self. Almost everybody loves that.

I know, but I try to resist the urge to do so unless it is in some vague way relevant to the topic at hand.
My life is a happy one, but I don’t think it is highly interesting to the world at large.

141 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:32:04pm

re: #138 aagcobb

How lovely.

142 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:32:51pm

re: #127 Kragar

I always pictured it as more of a nobody wins war, except even if they all died, the Daleks would have considered the end of the universe a win.

So long as one Dalek survived, that would be a win in their books. He’d be floating in the middle of nothingness, screaming “THE DALEKS ARE SUPREME!!”

143 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:33:04pm

Speaking of religious fundamentalism knowing no boundaries, I don’t really know what to make of the following:

King Arthur ‘fundamentally wrong’ on Stonehenge skeletons

Pagan campaigner King Arthur Pendragon’s “absolutism” campaign against the display of Neolithic bones at the new Stonehenge Visitors’ Centre has been likened to the fundamentalism of Islamists or the Westboro Baptists, and a “quiet majority” of pagans do not share his views.

That was the view of pagan archaeologist Will Rathouse, who said he feared the vociferous campaign demanding the reburial of bones found during digs in and around Stonehenge could seriously divide the pagan community in Britain.

Speaking to the Western Daily Press, Mr Rathouse, an expert from the University of Wales, said his research indicated that a quiet majority of pagans either did not care about the issue, or actively supported the displaying of bones at the centre, which opens next month.

King Arthur has pledged to organise a “direct action” protest at the opening of the centre in the week before the winter solstice, and has protested at museums and English Heritage offices around the West in the past few weeks. He said it “offends common decency” to put the bones of humans buried at Stonehenge on public display, and likened the new visitors’ centre to a “Victorian freak show”.

[…]

Nice threads though:

Former trucker turned Pagan ‘leader’, King Arthur Pendragon, was in Bristol earlier this week to protest outside the offices of English Heritage about plans to display the bones of his ancestors at a new Stonehenge exhibition PICTURE: SIMON GALLOWAY

144 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:34:19pm

re: #125 wrenchwench

Look at it this way, though. What if Obama had been assassinated in the third year of his first term? Think of all the repercussions politically, socially, culturally, economically, internationally, etc.

It was no different in 1963.

This. Though it’s true one life isn’t necessarily more valuable than another, and one death pales in comparison to hundreds or thousands, I think it bothers people more because our President is a symbol… he’s our representative… he’s us… which is why I suspect so many hate President Obama—they don’t like “us” being a black man with a funny name.

145 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:34:50pm

I was 11 when Kennedy was assassinated and remember that all the adults were crying when we were sent home from our (Catholic) school. I was a bit concerned because it was the first time I ever saw so many grownups crying at the same time, but it didn’t have any real emotional effect for me.

What did profoundly affect me was watching TV with my father as the police were moving Oswald through the packed crowd of people. I said something like “Why are they doing that? It doesn’t make any … *BANG*….”

Leaves me speechless to this day.

146 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:35:17pm

re: #139 thedopefishlives

Bloody cold. Grumbling about how stupid people are when it snows. Speaking of, clearly humans aren’t the only creatures that have trouble with the stuff; saw a deer yesterday who tried to stop after crossing the road, slipped, and fell completely over. Skidded all the way across the ditch into the fence on his side. Poor little guy, he got up and scampered off in extreme embarrassment.

His deer friends got it on Youtube. //

147 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:36:08pm

re: #142 Targetpractice

So long as one Dalek survived, that would be a win in their books. He’d be floating in the middle of nothingness, screaming “THE DALEKS ARE SUPREME!!”

Kinda like the last GOPer left standing…

148 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:36:14pm

re: #140 calochortus

I know, but I try to resist the urge to do so unless it is in some vague way relevant to the topic at hand.
My life is a happy one, but I don’t think it is highly interesting to the world at large.

Admirable.

I learned when I was a freshman in college. The freshman orientation class was centered on writing a bit of autobiography. I wrote a piece about being shy when I was a kid. The prof said, ‘Well-written, but BORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRING!’ Everybody was shy when they were a kid.’

And here I just wrote yet another comment about ME ME ME ME!!!

149 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:37:14pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

And here I just wrote yet another comment about ME ME ME ME!!!

But it was relevant and therefore, acceptable.

150 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:37:57pm

re: #125 wrenchwench
I was 3 1/2 then. I remember it because right before it was all over the TV that the President was dead, I got in HUGE trouble for locking my Mom out of the house when she went out to get the mail, so I could speed around the house on my tricycle, lol. I was being spanked when my Dad came in the door crying (I’ve only seen him cry a few times in my life) and told mom to turn on the TV. I spent the rest of the afternoon on my tricycle with dad sitting in the chair next to me watching the news. Had I not got in trouble that day I doubt I would have remembered it, but I can remember the whole layout of our little house and that the TV was a Zenith console. I also remember what my parents were wearing and the smell of Dad’s work clothes (he was a sheet metal worker then). It was a big cultural thing, my parents were really conservative (still are), but it really shook them up. They weren’t happy about it like some people were.

151 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:38:47pm
152 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:39:30pm

re: #147 Backwoods_Sleuth

One Doctor Who reviewer I saw directly compared Republicans to the Daleks in his review of “Asylum of the Daleks.”

I think it was good, but flawed episode.

153 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:39:38pm

re: #119 CuriousLurker

Interesting, thanks!

A few years ago, I briefly dated a woman whose hobby was clowning. She had her own character, an elaborate costume, and an act she practiced endlessly. She spent thousands of dollars on it. She made appearances at schools and other children’s events.
I went to a clown convention with her and it completely creeped me out. Don’t get me wrong, the clownfolk themselves were nice people, if a little dull out of character, but they universally thought they were doing something wonderful for children. That was their primary motivation and most of their seminars and the like focused on children. They seemed to have no idea at all, none, that many (if not most) children found them creepy and frightening. I didn’t try to enlighten them, of course. It wasn’t my job and I was their guest after all, but I was glad to get away.

Another observation on clowns: By the time my grandson was 3 years old he could clearly distinguish clowns from costumed sci-fi characters or Disney mascots. He was afraid of the clowns, but not of the other characters (even the frightful anthropomorphic alien from “To Serve Man”). Somehow he recognized them as human beings in odd clothes while he remained unsure about the clowns.

154 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:41:18pm
155 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:41:22pm

re: #150 A Mom Anon

I was 5. I don’t remember the assassination (Mom said we were in the grocery store). I do remember watching the funeral on TV and asking Mom, ‘Why are all those people crying?’ She was ironing. Nothing says ‘the Old Days’ to me like ironing, lol.

156 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:41:48pm

Youtube Video

157 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:42:20pm

re: #148 wrenchwench

Oh, and I’m quite willing to accept the dull life-story as a trade-off for having a pleasant life. I was going to say that I thought most people would, but then I thought about some people I have known who wouldn’t. So, maybe not.

158 aagcobb  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:43:16pm

re: #143 freetoken

Speaking of religious fundamentalism knowing no boundaries, I don’t really know what to make of the following:

King Arthur ‘fundamentally wrong’ on Stonehenge skeletons

Nice threads though:

Former trucker turned Pagan ‘leader’, King Arthur Pendragon, was in Bristol earlier this week to protest outside the offices of English Heritage about plans to display the bones of his ancestors at a new Stonehenge exhibition PICTURE: SIMON GALLOWAY

When I was a kid, Mammoth Cave had a mummy of a Native American who had died in the cave long ago on display. It was eventually removed and reburied in an undisclosed location.

159 dog philosopher  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:43:20pm

i am quite literally at the mercy of mailer daemons

living in a magical world i don’t really understand is so hard

160 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:43:27pm

re: #129 Kragar

Don’t count it out.

Moffat lies to keep secrets, and a handful of actors in the Special have undisclosed parts.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:43:47pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

I was 5. I don’t remember the assassination (Mom said we were in the grocery store). I do remember watching the funeral on TV and asking Mom, ‘Why are all those people crying?’ She was ironing. Nothing says ‘the Old Days’ to me like ironing, lol.

There are few mundane things that smell as good as ironing.

162 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:44:14pm

re: #157 calochortus

Oh, and I’m quite willing to accept the dull life-story as a trade-off for having a pleasant life. I was going to say that I thought most people would, but then I thought about some people I have known who wouldn’t. So, maybe not.

I’m always amazed at how many people seem determined to make things more difficult for themselves.

163 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:44:51pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

I’m always amazed at how many people seem determined to make things more difficult for themselves.

They need the adrenaline rush?

164 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:45:41pm

re: #163 calochortus

They need the adrenaline rush?

That’s probably it, 9 times out of 10.

165 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:45:57pm

re: #160 The War TARDIS

Don’t count it out.

Moffat lies to keep secrets, and a handful of actors in the Special have undisclosed parts.

Is that tomorrow or next weekend?

166 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:46:08pm

re: #158 aagcobb

It’s not that ‘natives’ of whatever land have a desire to see those they see as ones of their own maintain the burial traditions they originally had, that I wonder about.

What that story struck me though was some sort of not-quite-honest approach, as if there is a lurking media angle here, or some other theatrics.

167 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:46:30pm

re: #158 aagcobb

When I was a kid, Mammoth Cave had a mummy of a Native American who had died in the cave long ago on display. It was eventually removed and reburied in an undisclosed location.

They still have mummies on display in Guanajuato, Mexico.

168 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:46:58pm

re: #155 wrenchwench

I was 5. I don’t remember the assassination (Mom said we were in the grocery store). I do remember watching the funeral on TV and asking Mom, ‘Why are all those people crying?’ She was ironing. Nothing says ‘the Old Days’ to me like ironing, lol.

I was 13 so I have very vivid memories of it. I was at home because of a dental appointment. My mother, too, was ironing. I happened to catch the initial bulletin on CBS and watched Walter Cronkite’s now iconic coverage for the rest of the afternoon. Our 3 TV stations showed nothing but assassination coverage for a couple of days. One of them finally relented and showed a movie. They were severely criticized for it.

CBS, as it happened, November 22 1963:
Youtube Video

169 piratedan  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:47:11pm

is it twue what they say about the demon possessed? oh Its Twue! its Twue! /Madeline Khan

170 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:47:27pm

More on religion - zombie creationism refuses to die:

Evolution debate again engulfs Texas education board

I thought the fat lady had already sung on this one.

171 dog philosopher  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:48:33pm

Quite Literally Demon-Possessed

i know! you should tell mccain that you have conspired with the literal demons to cast a spell over him that makes him appear as a racist moron nut job to the entire world

172 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:48:46pm

re: #160 The War TARDIS

One of the Actors is Marshall Griffin, and the other is Philip Buck.

Also, apparently, there is a time skip. Clara is no longer a nanny but a teacher.

173 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:49:00pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

A few years ago, I briefly dated a woman whose hobby was clowning. She had her own character, an elaborate costume, and an act she practiced endlessly. She spent thousands of dollars on it. She made appearances at schools and other children’s events.
I went to a clown convention with her and it completely creeped me out. Don’t get me wrong, the clownfolk themselves were nice people, if a little dull out of character, but they universally thought they were doing something wonderful for children. That was their primary motivation and most of their seminars and the like focused on children. They seemed to have no idea at all, none, that many (if not most) children found them creepy and frightening. I didn’t try to enlighten them, of course. It wasn’t my job and I was their guest after all, but I was glad to get away.

Another observation on clowns: By the time my grandson was 3 years old he could clearly distinguish clowns from costumed sci-fi characters or Disney mascots. He was afraid of the clowns, but not of the other characters (even the frightful anthropomorphic alien from “To Serve Man”). Somehow he recognized them as human beings in odd clothes while he remained unsure about the clowns.

Smart kid. ;-)

174 The War TARDIS  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:49:04pm

re: #165 Kragar

Tomorrow.

175 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:49:11pm

re: #170 freetoken

More on religion - zombie creationism refuses to die:

Evolution debate again engulfs Texas education board

I thought the fat lady had already sung on this one.

Creationism is much like conservatism. It does not fail, it is only failed.
/

176 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:49:15pm

re: #154 Gus

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Say, you don’t think that “dear friend” of RSM is actually Queen Dumbass of the North, do ya?

177 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:49:44pm

re: #170 freetoken

More on religion - zombie creationism refuses to die:

Evolution debate again engulfs Texas education board

I thought the fat lady had already sung on this one.

Texas apparently doesn’t accept the fat lady singing from Tennessee…

178 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:50:02pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth
Clothes still warm from the sunshine outdoors from the clothesline…ahh.

I sew from time to time so I always have an ironing board set up. It’s mandatory if you sew. I still own blouses that have to be ironed before they can be worn too. I like to iron, but not a lot at once.

179 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:50:47pm

re: #170 freetoken

The debate keeps evolving.

Image: ohQnuGv.jpg

180 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:51:08pm

re: #170 freetoken

More on religion - zombie creationism refuses to die:

Evolution debate again engulfs Texas education board

I thought the fat lady had already sung on this one.

Sigh.

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:51:21pm

re: #178 A Mom Anon

Clothes still warm from the sunshine outdoors from the clothesline…ahh.

I sew from time to time so I always have an ironing board set up. It’s mandatory if you sew. I still own blouses that have to be ironed before they can be worn too. I like to iron, but not a lot at once.

Yes, clothesline drying!
Also, the smell of new books…

182 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:51:35pm
183 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:52:22pm

That AP story has a classic AP-esque bit of euphemistic writing:

Textbook and classroom curriculum battles have long raged in Texas pitting creationists — those who see God’s hand in the creation of the universe — against academics who worry about religious and political ideology trumping scientific fact. At issue this time are proposed high school textbooks that could be used statewide starting next school year and through 2022 at least.

What a way to water down what the Texas creationists actually want.

This own story gives an example:

[…] One argued that creationism based on biblical texts should be taught in science classes, while others objected that climate change wasn’t as settled a scientific matter as some of the proposed books said.

184 dog philosopher  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:52:55pm

nov 22 1963

i was in grade school, in class, when all of a sudden a radio feed was put over the pa. for a while we weren’t sure what to make of the commentary, in a factual tone of voice, obscured by static, but after a minute or so it became clear what was going on…

later that night my father came home. he apologized because the only newspapers available were the tabloids since the ny times is a morning paper and didn’t put out a special edition

185 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:54:49pm

re: #178 A Mom Anon

Clothes still warm from the sunshine outdoors from the clothesline…ahh.

I sew from time to time so I always have an ironing board set up. It’s mandatory if you sew. I still own blouses that have to be ironed before they can be worn too. I like to iron, but not a lot at once.

We used to iron everything—you took it off the line outside and put it in a basket and did it all (except for towels). I stayed with my uncle and his wife the summer I was 17 and ironed everything for them—sheets, his tee shirts (back when they were worn as underwear), everything that could be ironed. I was bored when I wasn’t reading, and none of my friends were around.

186 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:54:52pm

November 22, 1963. I was probably blowing bubbles from chocolate milk.

187 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:54:57pm

re: #183 freetoken

So according to AP, I’m a creationist because I think God created the universe billions of years ago and used scientific processes in its creation and development?

188 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:54:58pm

re: #178 A Mom Anon

Clothes still warm from the sunshine outdoors from the clothesline…ahh.

I sew from time to time so I always have an ironing board set up. It’s mandatory if you sew. I still own blouses that have to be ironed before they can be worn too. I like to iron, but not a lot at once.

Now, now. When you sew, you “press”. When you have washed clothes, you “iron” them. I don’t mind ironing, and I positively enjoy doing the damask linen tablecloths and napkins after holiday dinners. I use my 1930-something Ironrite mangle for those and I love watching the linen come out smooth and lustrous. And it sort of extends the ritual of the holiday dinner.

189 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:55:34pm

re: #178 A Mom Anon

Clothes still warm from the sunshine outdoors from the clothesline…ahh.

I sew from time to time so I always have an ironing board set up. It’s mandatory if you sew. I still own blouses that have to be ironed before they can be worn too. I like to iron, but not a lot at once.

A few times I stayed with Gramma when she would do laundry in the basement. She had a laundry chute, an old machine with a wringer, and a mangle. Fun times!

190 Kragar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:55:45pm

re: #186 Gus

November 22, 1963. I was probably blowing bubbles from chocolate milk.

I was -10 years old.

191 dog philosopher  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:56:27pm

re: #153 Shiplord Kirel

A few years ago, I briefly dated a woman whose hobby was clowning. She had her own character, an elaborate costume, and an act she practiced endlessly. She spent thousands of dollars on it. She made appearances at schools and other children’s events.
I went to a clown convention with her and it completely creeped me out. Don’t get me wrong, the clownfolk themselves were nice people, if a little dull out of character, but they universally thought they were doing something wonderful for children. That was their primary motivation and most of their seminars and the like focused on children. They seemed to have no idea at all, none, that many (if not most) children found them creepy and frightening. I didn’t try to enlighten them, of course. It wasn’t my job and I was their guest after all, but I was glad to get away.

Another observation on clowns: By the time my grandson was 3 years old he could clearly distinguish clowns from costumed sci-fi characters or Disney mascots. He was afraid of the clowns, but not of the other characters (even the frightful anthropomorphic alien from “To Serve Man”). Somehow he recognized them as human beings in odd clothes while he remained unsure about the clowns.

i have a very close friend who has been a professional party clown for a few decades now (during a good economy she can make a startlingly high income!)

i don’t know what the kids think but in any case it’s the parents who write the checks :-)

192 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:57:54pm

re: #150 A Mom Anon

I was a year younger than you. Like ww, I don’t remember it either. My earliest recollection of 1960s newsworthy events was being told to leave the room by my parents when the evening news was on because they were showing violent images from the Vietnam War. That and the Apollo moon landing in the summer between 1st & 2nd grade.

193 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:58:14pm

The innocence of children:
My younger brother, then 5, thought reporters were calling JFK “the late president” because the shooting had kept the president from arriving on time for his next scheduled event, the luncheon engagement with local fatcats.

194 Justanotherhuman  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:58:23pm

re: #188 calochortus

Now, now. When you sew, you “press”. When you have washed clothes, you “iron” them. I don’t mind ironing, and I positively enjoy doing the damask linen tablecloths and napkins after holiday dinners. I use my 1930-something Ironrite mangle for those and I love watching the linen come out smooth and lustrous. And it sort of extends the ritual of the holiday dinner.

Wow, I haven’t seen a mangle since the early ’50s! My aunt had one in Buffalo. Great device.

195 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 12:59:57pm

re: #190 Kragar

I was -10 years old.

I’m still blowing bubbles with chocolate milk. //

196 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:01:43pm

re: #194 Justanotherhuman

Wow, I haven’t seen a mangle since the early ’50s! My aunt had one in Buffalo. Great device.

If you need to do any quantity of ironing, they are the way to go-if you have the room to store one. There are a surprising number of them around still. I don’t bother with it for ironing a couple blouses, but it has it’s uses.

197 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:02:20pm

Guess I’m weird since, being a Millenial, I can’t really understand the nostalgia around Kennedy. Mostly that’s because I grew up in the Post-Watergate world, where cynicism had long ago replaced that belief that presidents were good men who meant well. To me, all I can see with JFK’s assassination is that he was cut down in the relative high-point of his presidency. Had he survived, it’s plausible much of what we’ve taken for granted in the 20th century would not have come to pass.

198 Dr. Matt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:02:23pm

re: #186 Gus

November 22, 1963. I was probably blowing bubbles from chocolate milk.

I wasn’t even a gamete yet.

199 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:02:43pm

re: #189 wrenchwench

A few times I stayed with Gramma when she would do laundry in the basement. She had a laundry chute, an old machine with a wringer, and a mangle. Fun times!

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

200 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:03:15pm

re: #198 Dr. Matt

I wasn’t even a gamete yet.

I’m pretty sure my parents hadn’t gone through puberty yet.

201 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:03:52pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

202 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:04:23pm

For the Dr. Who fans, I have a page up littlegreenfootballs.com
about Google’s 50th Anniversary Doodle. It’s fun!

203 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:05:51pm

re: #201 dr. klys

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

That’s nuts. O_o

204 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:07:32pm

re: #203 CuriousLurker

That’s nuts. O_o

I agree.

205 Dr. Matt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:07:33pm

re: #201 dr. klys

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

I see nothing wrong with that. I blame my time in the military in addition to my ability to consume an entire meal in < 5 minutes.

206 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:09:00pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

Once upon a time I used to own a Rowenta and buy starch. Steam. Etc. Then I went hobo. //

207 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:09:04pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

I do. I iron my shirt every morning for work. Also fond of ironing for my wife…even have a little song I sing to her in the mornings when I ask if she needs anything ironed.

208 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:09:06pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

Tsk, tsk. I sew most of my own clothes and aside from pressing during construction, I end up with a certain number of items that need ironing, but are worth it because Silk! Linen! Cotton! (Did I mention Silk!?) So comfortable, but often wrinkly.

re: #201 dr. klys

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

Sheets? Really? I never saw the need to iron them (nor did my mother which is undoubtedly where I got my attitude on the subject.) If they’re smoothed and folded or rolled properly you really don’t need to.

209 Dr. Matt  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:09:35pm

I’m addicted to this song (starts at 1:12)

Youtube Video

210 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:10:35pm

re: #196 calochortus

If you need to do any quantity of ironing, they are the way to go-if you have the room to store one. There are a surprising number of them around still. I don’t bother with it for ironing a couple blouses, but it has it’s uses.

I just had to look up what the heck it was (thank you Wikipedia). I knew it was used to wring water out of laundry but didn’t know it was called that and had no idea they were still used for pressing.

211 Dr Lizardo  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:10:46pm

re: #203 CuriousLurker

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

That’s nuts. O_o

Sounds exactly like my ex-wife. She used to iron everything. She’d even iron the underwear.

212 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:10:53pm

re: #208 calochortus

Tsk, tsk. I sew most of my own clothes and aside from pressing during construction, I end up with a certain number of items that need ironing, but are worth it because Silk! Linen! Cotton! (Did I mention Silk!?) So comfortable, but often wrinkly.

Silk is good. And it doesn’t mind a little heat from the iron. For fragile fabrics like polyester that melt easily, I’ll throw them in the dryer with a damp towel for five minutes.

213 kirkspencer  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:11:15pm

re: #205 Dr. Matt

I see nothing wrong with that. I blame my time in the military in addition to my ability to consume an entire meal in < 5 minutes.

Whereupon everyone nearby asks if you’re still hungry, poor dear, after inhaling your food that way.

214 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:12:07pm

re: #203 CuriousLurker

That’s nuts. O_o

My sister still irons her bedsheets/pillowcases and my neighbor has his laundered and ironed by the dry cleaner. I know weird people.

215 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:12:20pm
216 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:12:25pm

Okay, since we’re sharing…
I was in 1st grade, and the school sent us all home, but didn’t tell the younger kids why. They did tell the 3rd graders, which included my sister. Honestly, it didn’t mean all that much to me at the time, since I didn’t really understand what either ‘President’ or ‘dead’ meant.

WRT the cultural impact, my own thought is that Kennedy’s assassination by itself is symbolic of the pivot in the 1960s from the hope and excitement of the new era, which I think felt very real. The President was one of the generation that FOUGHT WWII, rather than those who were already middle aged when it started; the oldest Baby Boomers were starting to graduate from High School and entering young adulthood; there was the Space Race with its reaching into the unknown; the Civil Rights movement was making huge strides (after far too long).

Then JFK was killed.

After that, notwithstanding then VRA, the CRA, and Medicare, the rest of the 1960s felt like all that promise crashed to the ground. Malcolm X assassinated; Martin Luther King assassinated; Bobby Kennedy assassinated. Vietnam and the protests culminating in the Kent State shootings. Chicago 1968 - within 5 years, it felt like the so-promising world from BEFORE JFK’s assassination just came apart at the seams.

So, to me, his assassination per se was not the pivotal event. It was a shocking tragedy, partly because we all learned about it in real time, and saw the images on TV, and that probably made it even bigger in people’s minds. But when you add on what happened in the rest of the decade, it FEELS like the tipping point.

217 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:12:59pm

re: #205 Dr. Matt

I see nothing wrong with that. I blame my time in the military in addition to my ability to consume an entire meal in < 5 minutes.

I’ve been lead to believe that that’s a survival mechanism, or at least it is in the Navy, as food aboard ship can fall somewhere between “barely edible” to “good only for degreasing engines.”

218 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:13:02pm

Obama is a crappy socialist.

219 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:13:11pm

re: #207 darthstar

I do. I iron my shirt every morning for work. Also fond of ironing for my wife…even have a little song I sing to her in the mornings when I ask if she needs anything ironed.

Impressive!

220 Targetpractice  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:13:36pm

re: #218 darthstar

Obama is a crappy socialist.

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It’s just a bubble! It’ll pop any day now! This isn’t proof of anything!!!

221 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:14:09pm

re: #124 calochortus

I also don’t get the “what were you doing when you heard?” thing. What difference does it make?

Because normally you don’t remember “what you were doing” on any particular day but it’s part of the memory that is seared into your brain.

I also remember where I was and what I was doing:

When Challenger blew up
When I first heard about the Towers on 9/11
When Columbia blew up

I don’t remember what I was doing when Reagan was shot, just that I heard about it on the radio, on TV and in the paper.

222 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:15:06pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

I have cotton blouses and I iron them every time they are washed.

I don’t iron Zedushka’s shirts, I tell him to iron his own damn shirts (he takes them to the cleaners)

223 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:16:00pm
224 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:16:07pm

re: #210 leftynyc

I just had to look up what the heck it was (thank you Wikipedia). I knew it was used to wring water out of laundry but didn’t know it was called that and had no idea they were still used for pressing.

There are different kinds of mangles-they can be “wringers”, or for smoothing fabric there are hot or cold mangles. Cold mangles involve wrapping dry fabric around a cylindrical piece of wood and rolling on a stone. I believe they are actually still made in Scandinavia. Hot mangles are a later development and are the moral equivalent of a dry iron and an ironing board, so you have to dampen the cloth before running it through, just like you did with irons before the advent of steam irons. Meile still makes hot mangles.

225 leftynyc  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:16:17pm

re: #221 Learned Pie Of Zion

Because normally you don’t remember “what you were doing” on any particular day but it’s part of the memory that is seared into your brain.

I also remember where I was and what I was doing:

When Challenger blew up
When I first heard about the Towers on 9/11
When Columbia blew up

I don’t remember what I was doing when Reagan was shot, just that I heard about it on the radio, on TV and in the paper.

I remember where I was for all of those. My sister was in law school in DC when Reagan was shot (I was home sick) and when I called dad his first question was “where’s your sister?”.

226 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:16:29pm

re: #201 dr. klys

I don’t think I even own an iron.

But one of my roommates in college would iron her jeans, t-shirts, and bedsheets.

BEDSHEETS. WTF.

Although…I do have some cotton and linen tablecloths that have to be ironed whenever they are washed, which is once a year.

227 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:16:37pm

re: #221 Learned Pie Of Zion

Because normally you don’t remember “what you were doing” on any particular day but it’s part of the memory that is seared into your brain.

I also remember where I was and what I was doing:

When Challenger blew up
When I first heard about the Towers on 9/11
When Columbia blew up

I don’t remember what I was doing when Reagan was shot, just that I heard about it on the radio, on TV and in the paper.

I happen to remember where I was when Reagan got shot, because I was a federal worker at the time, and at work.

228 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:18:01pm

re: #221 Learned Pie Of Zion

I think it helps us humans figure out where in time a thing happened, and helps us put it into some kind of order in our lives. Humans need things to make some sort of sense, hence the categories we give everything from books to plants to animals to people.

229 BusyMonster  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:18:22pm

When someone says crap like this, I quite literally stop considering them to be a functioning adult of sound mind. I instead begin treating them as a deranged moron.

230 Patricia Kayden  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:18:33pm

re: #48 GeneJockey

Demons are the REAL racists.

Especially the Black Kenyan ones.

231 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:18:52pm

re: #221 Learned Pie Of Zion

Because normally you don’t remember “what you were doing” on any particular day but it’s part of the memory that is seared into your brain.

I also remember where I was and what I was doing:

When Challenger blew up
When I first heard about the Towers on 9/11
When Columbia blew up

I don’t remember what I was doing when Reagan was shot, just that I heard about it on the radio, on TV and in the paper.

My list:

When JFK was killled.
When RFK was killed.
When Challenger blew up.
When the Loma Prieta quake hit.
When 911 happened.

232 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:19:28pm
233 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:19:41pm

re: #212 darthstar

Silk is good. And it doesn’t mind a little heat from the iron. For fragile fabrics like polyester that melt easily, I’ll throw them in the dryer with a damp towel for five minutes.

Poly is a pain. If you need to set a pleat or press something really flat and like to live dangerously, set your iron to ‘cotton’ or ‘linen’ and put a thin, sopping wet press cloth on the item to be pressed and put the iron on it. for a very few seconds. Steam seems to spread the heat evenly and quickly, while moderating the temperature.

234 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:19:56pm

re: #229 BusyMonster

When someone says crap like this, I quite literally stop considering them to be a functioning adult of sound mind. I instead begin treating them as a deranged moron.

What is, “contextual ambiguity”?

235 calochortus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:20:51pm

As much fun as it is to discuss housework, I think I’ll go do some.

BBL

236 CuriousLurker  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:21:44pm

re: #222 Learned Pie Of Zion

I have cotton blouses and I iron them every time they are washed.

I don’t iron Zedushka’s shirts, I tell him to iron his own damn shirts (he takes them to the cleaners)

LOL. I refuse to buy anything that needs to be ironed. I don’t have the patience for it—too many other things I’d rather be doing.

Gawd, how pathetic are we sitting around talking about frigging ironing? Sheesh, you’d think with a demon-possessed host things would be more exciting around here. Charles needs to seriously step up his game. //

237 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:22:07pm

Uh, first he has to commit high crimes and misdemeanors. “Obamacare” and “BENGHAZI!!!!1!!!1!!” do not fall into those categories.

238 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:22:11pm

Hi Lizards..The iceman hath cometh..
In just a short time everything is covered in ice…Nobody goes anywhere right now. It is so weird that here where it is always hot, A few days a year we get covered in pure ice. Then again, It’s Oklahoma and I’ve lost count on what number plague we are on. mmm.Well no frozen frogs falling from the sky yet..
What the hell? What was that?

239 jamesfirecat  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:23:22pm

re: #221 Learned Pie Of Zion

Because normally you don’t remember “what you were doing” on any particular day but it’s part of the memory that is seared into your brain.

I also remember where I was and what I was doing:

When Challenger blew up
When I first heard about the Towers on 9/11
When Columbia blew up

I don’t remember what I was doing when Reagan was shot, just that I heard about it on the radio, on TV and in the paper.

I being way too young to have existed when Kennedy died do know more or less exactly what I was doing on they day of 9/11 I was at school but weird stuff kept happening like kids being called out of classes because their parrent’s were there to pick them up.

I think at one point classes just stopped and we sat there with the lights off…

It was like three periods before we finally were told what had happened and then we we’re let out of school early.

We were also suppose to stay home from school the next day.

Me and my brother spent our day off from school in they basement listening of Dune on tape.

A book about the futility of even a technologically more advanced affluent society attempting to conquer a desert planet whose natives oppose them due to deeply held religious beliefs.

Yeah that’s still creepily on the nose whenever I think about it.

240 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:25:19pm

re: #238 HoosierHoops

As long as Winston & you are warm!

241 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:25:40pm

Fox Business News, keeping things klassy…

242 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:26:12pm

Ironing. My Mom HATED ironing. We had the ironing board upstairs at the end of the hall, and there was a basket next to it that got more and more full, till eventually, usually on a Saturday night, Mom would have Dad bring the whole thing downstairs and set it up just outside the TV room doorway, and she’d watch TV and iron. The Living Room chandelier would be festooned with newly ironed clothes on their wire hanges.

Shirts you’d almost forgotten you had would reappear. Sometimes they even still fit.

My wife irons my shirts, when she’s not working. Since she won’t buy or let me buy permanent press clothes, she kind of chooses to do so. When she’s working, I iron them myself. It’s a nice, zen activity.

BTW, on our old iron the hottest settings were marked “Wool; Cot; Lin”, and I can’t see the name ‘Wolcott” without thinking about ironing.

243 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:26:25pm
244 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:27:43pm

re: #236 CuriousLurker

LOL. I refuse to buy anything that needs to be ironed. I don’t have the patience for it—too many other things I’d rather be doing.

Gawd, how pathetic are we sitting around talking about frigging ironing? Sheesh, you’d think with a demon-possessed host things would be more exciting around here. Charles needs to seriously step up his game. //

Don’t demons fear cold iron?
:)

245 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:28:23pm

re: #240 Dancing along the light of day

As long as Winston & you are warm!

Hi You! Just a couple more weeks to go before I move..The house is a mess..crap everywhere trying to pack.. :)

246 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:28:33pm

re: #244 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t demons fear cold iron?
:)

RED HOT IRON.

247 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:28:56pm

re: #226 Learned Pie Of Zion

BEDSHEETS. WTF.

Although…I do have some cotton and linen tablecloths that have to be ironed whenever they are washed, which is once a year.

I gave her a portable ironing board for Christmas one year.

248 Feline Fearless Leader  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:29:48pm

re: #246 Learned Pie Of Zion

RED HOT IRON.

And the war cry of “blood for pie!”
;)

249 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:30:06pm
250 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:30:42pm

re: #248 Feline Fearless Leader

And the war cry of “blood for pie!”
;)

Wait, are we talking an exchange, or is this a search for ingredients?

251 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:31:11pm

re: #199 CuriousLurker

I used to love ironing my dad’s handkerchiefs. Who irons nowadays? I know I don’t—I think I plug in my iron maybe once a year.

I plug in mine when I have to patch a hole in my jeans.

252 Charles Johnson  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:31:11pm

(Uh… actually, it’s doing a swim-by to see if Mr. Scuba might be worth biting.)

253 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:32:12pm

One of my soapboxes, obviously by anyone reading my posts, is the poor state of reporting on science, and today is no different than any other day, with the BBC fundamentally missing some important points about evolution, being prompted yet again by an overly sensational headline run by Nature Publishing Group.

Here’s the BBC story:

Y chromosome: Why men contribute so little

Catchy little headline, eh?

Anyway:

They condensed all the genetic information normally found on a mouse’s Y chromosome to just two genes.

Not really.

DNA is bundled into chromosomes.

In most mammals, including humans, one pair act as the sex chromosomes.

This is a common way of summarizing the X and Y chromosomes, though it is inadequate as demonstrated later on.

The bigger point of science education and evolution is this: every chromosome we have today has been a different thing in the past. Creationist love to through up the human Chromosome 2 versus the chimp chr 2 and 3 and declare that the fusion couldn’t have happened without ‘guidance’, for example. Which is nonsense, of course, but points out that our chromosomes are not static. Our chromosomes have a very long history of being something else.

Secondly, the very important Sry gene is in fact the key to the maleness of males, not the chromosome onto which it is bundled.

Fundamentally the BBC headline and catchy slogans miss the whole point - it’s not the chromosome that determines “maleness” but it is the gene(s).

I won’t even assign the BBC attention-getting to an anti-male activist feminist agenda (assuming such a thing exists.) It’s just another news outlet screaming for eyes to land on target.

254 Ming  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:32:48pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

Wow.

255 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:34:05pm

re: #253 freetoken

Still find it hilarious that the “sorry” gene is what makes males male.

256 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:36:21pm

re: #255 The Mountain That Blogs

Still find it hilarious that the “sorry” gene is what makes males male.

Even funnier that it evolved from one of the odd SOX.

257 122 Year Old Obama  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:36:26pm

1963? My parents hadn’t even met yet.

258 Gus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:36:39pm

Nap attempt… later.

259 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:37:03pm

re: #257 122 Year Old Obama

1963? My parents hadn’t even met yet.

Get off my lawn!

260 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:37:41pm

re: #257 122 Year Old Obama

Mine were in elementary school.

261 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:37:44pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox Business News, keeping things klassy…

[Embedded content]

I think we’re at the point where at least 60% of the entire internet just posts deliberately asinine things to farm outrage and get web traffic. The Anne Coulter business model, I guess.

262 HoosierHoops  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:37:54pm

re: #247 dr. klys

I gave her a portable ironing board for Christmas one year.

My Mother did my laundry and ironing growing up including college.
I paid her for years to do my ironing…25 dollars a week.

263 The Mountain That Blogs  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:38:07pm

re: #256 GeneJockey

not sure any of them beat this one.

264 freetoken  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:38:18pm

re: #261 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I think we’re at the point where at least 60% of the entire internet just posts deliberately asinine things to mine outrage and get web traffic. The Anne Coulter business model, I guess.

And the other 40% is porn of the original kind.

265 Tigger2  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:38:52pm

re: #241 Backwoods_Sleuth

Fox Business News, keeping things klassy…

[Embedded content]

Charles Payne sorry but those are one part of my body that stll works great. You comment is a fail.

266 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:42:18pm
267 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:44:51pm

Speaking of sort-of-sewing, he’s finished!

268 GlutenFreeJesus  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:45:07pm

The Power of Logic™ compels you!!!!!!!!

269 wrenchwench  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:45:42pm

re: #267 dr. klys

Speaking of sort-of-sewing, he’s finished!

Founding Father or Tea Party Nut?

270 A Mom Anon  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:46:10pm

re: #262 HoosierHoops

My kid started doing his own laundry the day he could reach the controls on the top loader. I taught him how to iron a couple years later(with close supervision). Next came cooking, little things. Now he can make the basics, do his laundry, clean a bathroom(sort of, lol, he is 19), do dishes, etc. He still has some stuff to learn, but he can do more than most of his peers.

I told him a long time ago to not count on a wife or girlfriend to do that stuff for him(or his mom, lol) because she might have other things going on, like getting her education or a paying job.

My daughter on the other hand, simply refused to do any of that. She lived with her dad most of the time and he babied the hell out of her. Now, with three kids, she has a hard time keeping up, her boyfriend does all that stuff because it drives him nuts when it isn’t done.

271 darthstar  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:47:19pm
272 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:47:23pm

re: #269 wrenchwench

Founding Father or Tea Party Nut?

The Williamsburg Santa Claus from the Mill Hill beaded kit series - they do three Santas on a theme each year and this year’s theme was “colonial” Santas.

Since my mom does colonial-era re-enactment, this one’s going to her.

273 GeneJockey  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:48:59pm

re: #263 The Mountain That Blogs

not sure any of them beat this one.

Damn Drosophila geneticists have all the fun.

274 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:49:16pm

re: #123 Backwoods_Sleuth

West Virginia reporter commented that JFK never worked a day in his life. A burley miner replied “He didn’t miss a God damn thing!”

But he did get his PT boat sliced in half. I doubt the dickwad who said this about Kennedy ever came within five hundred miles of the sound of the guns.

On an aside, I have the autobiography of the man who commanded the destroyer that sank PT-109. It’s always interesting to read how the other side sees things.

275 dr. klys  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:51:52pm

Sticking this here since it is completely OT, but I think some Lizards might appreciate this store.

276 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 1:52:18pm

re: #274 Romantic Heretic

But he did get his PT boat sliced in half. I doubt the dickwad who said this about Kennedy ever came within five hundred miles of the sound of the guns.

On an aside, I have the autobiography of the man who commanded the destroyer that sank PT-109. It’s always interesting to read how the other side sees things.

I had the same initial thought about the PT boat. My guess is that the eejit reporter never did any “real work” either, much less serve in the military.

277 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 2:02:44pm

re: #162 wrenchwench

I’m always amazed at how many people seem determined to make things more difficult for themselves.

I get a lot of people who look at me funny when I tell them, “Excitement is overrated.”

278 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 2:14:54pm

re: #244 Feline Fearless Leader

Don’t demons fear cold iron?
:)

That’s the Fae. ;)

For demons it’s silver. Someone was sold for thirty pieces of silver 2,000 years ago and the metal has been doing penance ever since. ;)

279 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Nov 22, 2013 4:06:42pm

Quite literally possessed by something that only exists as a metaphor


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