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1 HoosierHoops  Mon, Nov 25, 2013 10:23:55pm

I’m first! Wait that will get you in trouble..I’m second!
I’m really jacked in the middle of the night. I offered Gus a place to stay in
paradise. My place sleeps 8. I think He’ll fit in.

2 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Nov 25, 2013 10:30:59pm

re: #1 HoosierHoops

Have you been in Wisconsin in the winter, yet? If you think it’s cold in Oklahoma now….

/was born in Manitoba, there’s a reason I won’t leave California.

3 HoosierHoops  Mon, Nov 25, 2013 10:48:17pm

re: #2 Single-handed sailor

Have you been in Wisconsin in the winter, yet? If you think it’s cold in Oklahoma now….

/was born in Manitoba, there’s a reason I won’t leave California.

I don’t give a fuck…I’ve lived in Indiana! LOL!
It;s all good..I spent about 3 grand to winterize the place. This a big time sport fisherman paradise and I’ll be right here with the boat driving around with Winston.

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4 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Nov 25, 2013 11:15:26pm

LOL! Here fishy fishy!
*waves*

5 Eclectic Cyborg  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 1:14:34am

It’s quiet…too quiet.

6 jogiff  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 1:23:18am

Huh, if Beats Antique usually does stuff like this then I’ll definitely need to start buying their albums.

I already liked Les Claypool.

7 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 1:52:03am
8 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 2:07:19am

re: #7 Lidane

Renenber again the central image of the Tea Party: armed rebellion against a tyrant.

If that “tyrant” has been freely, fairly and democratically elected, then that makes the American People accessories to the crime of tyranny, and therefore also the “enemy” of the Tea Party.

They have no idea of the ground they are treading on because they never learned to think things through.

9 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 2:07:21am

re: #7 Lidane

Those people and their damned tri-corner hats. ugh.

10 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 2:11:16am

re: #8 Sol Berdinowitz

If that “tyrant” has been freely, fairly and democratically elected, then that makes the American People accessories to the crime of tyranny, and therefore also the “enemy” of the Tea Party.

I think they don’t understand that the vast majority of U.S. citizens don’t give a shit about playing weekend revolutionary against the sole remaining super power, and just want to live their lives with as little interference as possible.

Relatively speaking, we have a pretty good thing going (with notable exceptions that have nothing whatsoever to do with Tea Party concerns), and have little interest in screwing it up with a blood bath on our city streets.

Delusional.

11 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 2:21:53am

It is a way of articulating their rage in terms they can understand.

12 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 3:41:06am

re: #8 Sol Berdinowitz

Renenber again the central image of the Tea Party: armed rebellion against a tyrant.

If that “tyrant” has been freely, fairly and democratically elected, then that makes the American People accessories to the crime of tyranny, and therefore also the “enemy” of the Tea Party.

They have no idea of the ground they are treading on because they never learned to think things through.

Oh, most of us figured out we’re the baggers’ enemy a long time ago, if we had any sense at all. When most people figure out what nasty, greedy, ignorant, lying types they’re having to deal with, they see the ‘baggers as nothing but hypocritical trouble makers who don’t care about anyone but themselves.

13 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 3:46:18am

re: #12 Justanotherhuman

Oh, most of us figured out we’re the baggers’ enemy a long time ago, if we had any sense at all. When most people figure out what nasty, greedy, ignorant, lying types they’re having to deal with, they see the ‘baggers as nothing but hypocritical trouble makers who don’t care about anyone but themselves.

They have not figured out that they are declaring war and rebellion against the American People.

14 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 3:53:42am

Haha, lose the face hair, Willie Geist. It doesn’t make you look any better. Or wiser.

These people on Morning Jerk discussing how people don’t “trust” Pres Obama anymore, and that’s why he’s losing favorability points.

Keep up the propaganda, MSM.

15 Stephen T.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:02:08am

re: #7 Lidane

Three Percenters, like the Oath Keepers, “promote the idea that the federal government is plotting to take away the rights of American citizens and must be resisted. The two groups are apparently trying to make inroads in the U.S. military.”

Never heard of the Three Percenters, but of the current and former military I know, only one isn’t a member of Oath Keepers. I call him a friend.

The members of the Oath Keepers I know, I, unfortunately, have to call them relatives. They range in rank from E3 to O2. If there was just one, it would be too many, I’m related to eight vocal, violent, ignorant Oath Keepers.

16 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:07:48am

re: #15 Stephen T.

Never heard of the Three Percenters, but of the current and former military I know, only one isn’t a member of Oath Keepers. I call him a friend.

The members of the Oath Keepers I know, I, unfortunately, have to call them relatives. They range in rank from E3 to O2. If there was just one, it would be too many, I’m related to eight vocal, violent, ignorant Oath Keepers.

Not surprising that you know so many in the military. Those who like being in the military to begin with (and they are volunteers, not draftees) tend to be authoritarian types anyway. And where would the right wing be without their authoritarianism?

17 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:09:43am

Headlines rewritten as clickbait:

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18 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:22:49am

Winter storm warning has arrived.
This should be fun…

19 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:33:25am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Winter storm warning has arrived.
This should be fun…

Why do storms in winter get the season designation when they don’t other times of the year? When was the last time you ever heard of a Fall storm warning?

I hope that your storm turns out to be as much of a dud as ours did Backwoods_Sleuth

20 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:35:15am

re: #19 b.d.

Why do storms in winter get the season designation when they don’t other times of the year? When was the last time you ever heard of a Fall storm warning?

I hope that your storm turns out to be as much of a dud as ours did Backwoods_Sleuth

Spring, Summer and Fall storms do not generally come with snow and freezing temperatures…

21 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:36:04am

re: #19 b.d.

Why do storms in winter get the season designation when they don’t other times of the year? When was the last time you ever heard of a Fall storm warning?

I hope that your storm turns out to be as much of a dud as ours did Backwoods_Sleuth

Well, officially, it is still fall if you go by the calendar. But even in NC, with temps in the 20s and 30s, with sleet, ice and snow, feels more like winter to us.

22 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:36:41am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Winter storm warning has arrived.
This should be fun…

I checked tomorrow’s forecast for driving conditions on the north/south highways from Detroit to Alabama.

Should be clear all the way.

If we were driving to NY we’d be fucked.

23 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:39:31am

re: #19 b.d.

Why do storms in winter get the season designation when they don’t other times of the year? When was the last time you ever heard of a Fall storm warning?

I hope that your storm turns out to be as much of a dud as ours did Backwoods_Sleuth

Not too bad so far, just a bit of snow but supposed to change to mix of rain/snow/freezing rain during the day, then all snow this evening. Accumulation 4-6 inches (with locally higher amounts).
Fortunately, I’m prepared to ride it out.

24 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:41:03am

Haha, my Australian daughter-in-law posted a video of my grandson and all her friends are saying she has to bring him to Oz so that they can work on his accent.

Meanwhile my granddaughter in Alabama has developed a real sweet Southern accent y’all.

25 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:57:28am
26 andres  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 4:59:38am

re: #19 b.d.

Why do storms in winter get the season designation when they don’t other times of the year? When was the last time you ever heard of a Fall storm warning?

I hope that your storm turns out to be as much of a dud as ours did Backwoods_Sleuth

Technically speaking, you have tropical storms, thunderstorms, ice storms…

It’s just that for certain areas (the Tropics, for example), it doesn’t make sense to speak of other types of storms.

27 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:02:57am

I suppose this could be a bit embarrassing…

28 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:05:23am

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

The facial hair is that Mo-vember thing, bringing awareness to male cancers, kinda like the pink ribbon thing in October. He’ll lose it in few days. Morning Joe is damn near always especially awful, especially when Joe is there. It’s a little less awful when he’s on vacation. I really cannot STAND him.

You know, they get 3 hours in the morning, you’d think they could cover anything besides bullshit in some depth. They have hit the bad poll numbers at least 3 or 4 times this morning.

29 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:06:54am
30 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:10:28am

re: #29 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion
Not too far off the mark. They’re targeting the historically black colleges here in GA via the Young Republicans, that ought to be a hoot.

31 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:12:11am

re: #30 A Mom Anon

Not too far off the mark. They’re targeting the historically black colleges here in GA via the Young Republicans, that ought to be a hoot.

Rand Paul’s visit to Howard University. Hilarity ensued.

32 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:13:38am
It turned out that the audience knew the NAACP’s history, something Paul said he didn’t know would be the case.

Black students at a historically Black college, knowing Black history. Who’da thunk!

33 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:14:46am

re: #31 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion
You know they’ll do something that ridiculously stupid again, they just can’t stop themselves.

34 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:15:34am

Holiday watching: Documentary about the band Squeeze.

Glenn Difford looks so different.

Youtube Video

35 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:16:07am

Prudence, giving hints & tips for “Dealing with your ‘crazy liberal’ relatives over the holidays”

36 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:18:32am

Armadillo-Girdled Lizard.
Want!

Image: 1461574_10152093688791495_582252201_n.jpg

37 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:22:30am

re: #35 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Prudence, giving hints & tips for “Dealing with your ‘crazy liberal’ relatives over the holidays”

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If anyone brings up Obamacare at the Thanksgiving table I’ll throw mashed potatoes at them

38 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:28:14am

Also, this nonsense about the Iran deal being a desperate attempt to gain approval points is just the stupidest thing almost ever. Like they just decided last week to do this and it’s a matter of a couple of phone calls and photo ops and “poof!” it’s done. Really?

39 Zamb  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:31:04am

re: #38 A Mom Anon

Never forget that Obama only does things that could be considered good for our country to gain approval points. Real leaders never do anything popular.

40 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:36:14am

Obama is pardoning turkeys to take our attention away from BenghaziCare

41 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:44:36am

LOL

42 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:53:00am

re: #41 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

LOL

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LOL. Glenn Greenwald, defender and upholder of the truth.

43 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:54:56am

re: #14 Justanotherhuman

Haha, lose the face hair, Willie Geist. It doesn’t make you look any better. Or wiser.

These people on Morning Jerk discussing how people don’t “trust” Pres Obama anymore, and that’s why he’s losing favorability points.

Keep up the propaganda, MSM.

Willie Geist is a salesman, nothing more. And not very good at that.

Hmmm…Willie the Pimp. Zappa!!!

And Scarborough…ugh! I do not know how or why anyone would take that SOB seriously. If I were Mika I’d take his oatmeal bowl and turn it over on his damn head. That would be good TV! I was watching for the fun of it, but even that has worn thin.

44 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:58:19am

re: #18 Backwoods_Sleuth

Winter storm warning has arrived.
This should be fun…

We’ll be on the edge of it, but still forecasts for 2 to 4” or more for Columbus Ohier. Panic will set in…grocery stores will be in full emergency terror mode this evening. Thankfully I’m all stocked up as I always prepare a week ahead of any major holiday.

45 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 5:58:36am

re: #41 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

always with the evidence!

46 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:01:53am

Glenn ALWAYS provides a “neutral link” containing TEH EVIDENCES!!!!!1!!!!

47 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:02:05am

re: #22 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I checked tomorrow’s forecast for driving conditions on the north/south highways from Detroit to Alabama.

Should be clear all the way.

If we were driving to NY we’d be fucked.

Sticking to I-75 through Ohio I take it. You should be good getting through our state. Just be watchful for the ever-eager Ohio Highway Patrol.

48 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:02:06am

re: #41 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

How long does it take to tweet about two missing journalists in Syria (or physical attacks against journalists anywhere)?

No time Glenn? That tells you all you need to know about Greenwald. He’s so self-centered that basic decency and empathy are beneath him.

Journalism thrives because there are journalists willing to work the front lines of conflicts - actual armed conflicts - and face existential threats of death, torture, and maiming to get a story out. Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are among the most dangerous postings for journalists because of the violence against them. Yet he can’t be bothered to consider a reply because he doesn’t have the time.

Sorry, but that’s just his ego talking.

49 andres  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:07:33am

re: #41 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

LOL

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Self-awareness, he has none.

50 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:07:55am

re: #48 lawhawk

I think it’s fairly safe to assume that when it comes to him, it’s pretty much ALWAYS his ego talking.

51 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:07:56am

I am having to make the dreaded green bean casserole, but I’ll make it with sour cream, with a sprinkling of Mexican cheese under the onion topping. I also don’t “stuff” the turkey but will quarter oranges and put in the cavities while it roasts in an open pan with an alum “tent” until the last hour. The stuffing will be offered in a separate casserole, along with real sweet potatoes (not yams), gravy made with pan drippings and broth made from the neck and innards, fresh homemade yeast rolls (made on Wed & refrig’d), potato salad and deviled eggs also made on Wed. I have to make a separate stash of deviled eggs for earlier gnoshing because I don’t want to ruin the presentation and number on the table and someone always gets into them.

My granddaughter is bringing pie, mac & cheese, and a second turkey, although no one ever seems to have room for dessert. Having 10 people for dinner, so it’s all prep for the next couple of days. Can only seat 6 (plus 2 kids at the small kiddie table), so 2 of us will have to eat on the coffee table which nobody minds. Then, there will be leftovers to take home (my sons bring their own containers).

Yeah, I know it’s heavy on the protein, fat and carbs, but who actually comes for the vegetables?

52 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:12:12am

re: #27 Backwoods_Sleuth

I suppose this could be a bit embarrassing…

[Spun out Oscar Mayer Wienermobile]

That’s what he gets for “hotdogging” it in bad weather.

53 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:12:58am

re: #52 ObserverArt

That’s what he gets for “hotdogging” it in bad weather.

{groan}

54 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:15:13am

re: #53 Justanotherhuman

{groan}

Somebody had to do it. I can play the fool…

55 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:15:24am

re: #48 lawhawk

Of course Glenn has no time; Weinthal writes for the Jerusalem Post.

56 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:18:19am

re: #54 ObserverArt

Somebody had to do it. I can play the fool…

Yeah, I do that, too, but sometimes it’s inadvertently, which is OK, too. : )

57 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:26:57am

Good morning Lizards from somewhat snowy (and soon to get snowier) western NY.

Looking at the weather forecasts yesterday morning I opted to accelerate my departure to visit my brother by 20 hours or so. So I drove up yesterday, including making a requested stop at a Finger Lakes winery to stock up on fermented grape juice supplies. (Got there 1/2 hour before they closed.)

And given the construction zones I went through on the PA turnpike and I-81 I am glad I came up in clear weather. Traversing those in rain/sleet/snow like is being called for in that area today would probably have been a slow, if not disastrous, journey.

So, sitting back in the room with the wood stove and drinking some apple cider now.

58 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:34:24am

Matt Barber is the ideological love child of Bryan Fischer and Satan.

59 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:40:30am

Shorter right: “CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN! I WIN!”

Someone needs to start messing with these people on twitter by comparing this deal to obscure conflicts and treaties. “Obama’s deal isn’t quite the failure that Bolivia experienced at the 1938 Buenos Aires peace conference when Paraguay was awarded the Chaco, but it comes close”. Tag it with all the teabagger hashtags and watch their heads spin. “Bolivia? Chaco? What’s all that?”

60 andres  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:41:39am

re: #58 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Matt Barber is the ideological love child of Bryan Fischer and Satan.

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My opinion on the Iran deal is that something changed recently to force Tehran to reconsider.

It’s a great first step to alleviate tensions in the Middle East. I hope there will be a second step in 6 months.

61 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:42:07am

re: #34 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Holiday watching: Documentary about the band Squeeze.

Glenn Difford looks so different.

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That would be either Glenn Tilbrook or Chris Difford.

62 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:43:33am

re: #59 Ian G.

Shorter right: “CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN! I WIN!”

Someone needs to start messing with these people on twitter by comparing this deal to obscure conflicts and treaties. “Obama’s deal isn’t quite the failure that Bolivia experienced at the 1938 Buenos Aires peace conference when Paraguay was awarded the Chaco, but it comes close”. Tag it with all the teabagger hashtags and watch their heads spin. “Bolivia? Chaco? What’s all that?”

Great idea. And just think…they may actually learn something in the process.

63 andres  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:44:06am

re: #59 Ian G.

Shorter right: “CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN CHAMBERLAIN! I WIN!”

So Chamberlain is the new Hitler? Talk about weird.

It’s easy to be an arm chair President. Being in the front line and having to take those decisions is not enviable at all.

64 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:44:49am

re: #52 ObserverArt

That’s what he gets for “hotdogging” it in bad weather.

The driver was probably a real brat.

65 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:47:27am

re: #64 makeitstop

He wasn’t using Mr. Zog’s Sex Wax for slippery and wet conditions.

66 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:47:37am

re: #64 makeitstop

The driver was probably a real brat.

Is that the wurst you can do?

67 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:47:46am

I actually preferred apt living when I was younger and do now that I’m old. I owned 2 houses between the ages of 37 and 59 when the second one was foreclosed on after I lost my job and couldn’t get another as well paying. Sometimes home ownership is not all it’s cracked up to be; you never actually “own” it until it’s paid off anyway, and houses can be a money pit—you are responsible for its entire upkeep as well as the grounds, and it can be an expensive proposition, esp when income and the economy slips. And it’s not fun to watch neighborhoods start to show deterioration with houses that people can’t keep up. I enjoyed the yard work, gardening, the decorating, even the repairs, but you have to have time, money, and energy for those, too, even if you are a DIYer.

Still, we should have the choice between ownership and rentals.

US housing permits rise at fastest pace in 5 years on apartments; houses remain mostly flat

bigstory.ap.org

I think I have the best of apt living—these are older units, but it’s a very small complex of 10 apts with owners who take care of the property as well as their tenants. We have our individual privacy, but we’re not “anonymous” because we all get to know each other eventually and even if we don’t socialize, we get along.

68 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:49:41am

re: #66 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Is that the wurst you can do?

Yeah, I’m on a roll here.

69 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:50:42am

re: #61 makeitstop

dammit, I knew I’d get them confused! :)

70 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:51:02am

re: #66 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi

Is that the wurst you can do?

I suppose you consider yourself the wiener.

71 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:54:26am

re: #70 ObserverArt

I suppose you consider yourself the wiener.

If I have to be frank about it.

72 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:56:53am

re: #67 Justanotherhuman

I actually preferred apt living when I was younger and do now that I’m old. I owned 2 houses between the ages of 37 and 59 when the second one was foreclosed on after I lost my job and couldn’t get another as well paying. Sometimes home ownership is not all it’s cracked up to be; you never actually “own” it until it’s paid off anyway, and houses can be a money pit—you are responsible for its entire upkeep as well as the grounds, and it can be an expensive proposition, esp when income and the economy slips. And it’s not fun to watch neighborhoods start to show deterioration with houses that people can’t keep up. I enjoyed the yard work, gardening, the decorating, even the repairs, but you have to have time, money, and energy for those, too, even if you are a DIYer.

Still, we should have the choice between ownership and rentals.

US housing permits rise at fastest pace in 5 years on apartments; houses remain mostly flat

bigstory.ap.org

I think I have the best of apt living—these are older units, but it’s a very small complex of 10 apts with owners who take care of the property as well as their tenants. We have our individual privacy, but we’re not “anonymous” because we all get to know each other eventually and even if we don’t socialize, we get along.

My transfer to Philadelphia back in 2007 shifted me from house to apartment and I haven’t looked back. Two years of working a project in Philly from an apartment during the week made it clear that it was a workable position.

And it is summed up in a bunch of trade-offs. I have a number of benefits from living mid-city in an apartment (short walking commute, immediate access to a lot of restaurants and other cultural locations, no outside maintenance chores; e.g. lawn mowing, snow shoveling, hedge clipping.) In exchange I also pay more in rent than my old mortgage was, have much more noise and light than my house did, cannot sit outside in relative quiet, cannot grill, and also have less space and more neighbors in close proximity.

A third contrast is my brother’s place here in western NY. On an acre parcel set in some woods. Closest neighbor is 150 yards away - and you can only see the place when the leaves are down. There’s a pond, and wildlife is all over the place (not counting the chickens.) Flipside is at least three miles to the village, nine miles for him to get to work in another village, and about thirty to the Rochester suburbs.

73 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:56:59am

Yawn. Stretch.

Good morning, all.

Stayed up way too late last night but I watched “Day of the Doctor” and the ending more than made it worthwhile between the scene of the curator and the dream sequence.

Now it’s time to go put the duck in the oven - due to my wife’s work schedule we’re doing Thanksgiving today. She’s an RN, see, and so someone has to be at work no matter the day. So instead, today, we’ll eat, drink, be merry & give thanks.

And drink lots of coffee… ;)

74 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 6:59:43am

Mornin’ all. You really didn’t think you could post a picture of a weiner stuck in a ditch and add three sausage puns without me did you?

“Nice link, by the way,” she said.

75 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:00:17am

re: #69 Rev_Arthur_Belling

dammit, I knew I’d get them confused! :)

Better just to do what everyone else does and call them by surname. ;)

76 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:01:16am

re: #74 darthstar

Mornin’ all. You really didn’t think you could post a picture of a weiner stuck in a ditch and add three sausage puns without me did you?

“Nice link, by the way,” she said.

It was the best we could have mustered.

77 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:02:08am

re: #34 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Holiday watching: Documentary about the band Squeeze.

Glenn Difford looks so different.

[Embedded content]

Thanks for that!

I have it playing in the background on my other PC. Love Squeeze. Used to do covers of Pulling Mussels and Farfisa Beat. I still have the old Farfisa combo organ up in my attic collecting dust.

78 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:03:16am

re: #73 William Barnett-Lewis

While I love the homages spread throughout the episode (whether it’s the UNIT assistant wearing the 4th Doctor’s scarf, the round thingy TARDIS control room, the 10th Doctor’s last words (again), the War Doctor’s complaints about his future selves childish language (it’s time to grow up), or Tom Baker’s cameo as the curator), I’m not particularly fond of the way they’ve attempted to retcon history to spin it in a more positive light.

But, it also paves the way to have an older Doctor in Capaldi, following the younger Tennant and Smith. It’s time to grow up, as it were.

79 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:09:36am

re: #76 makeitstop

It was the best we could have mustered.

Relish it while you can.

80 andres  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:09:45am

Speaking of decisions that Presidents have to make in turbulent times, I just finished “Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter”. I commend the author for such an undertaking. The real historical part was well researched. The fantastic elements were nicely blended into the narrative.

The third part of the novel, Lincoln’s time as president, was an eye-opener for me. I already knew the Civil War was difficult, but the extend the South tried to undermine his Presidency from the very start leaves a lot to pounder, especially with the current Tea Party/Republican actions.

The movie followed the spirit of the book, if not necessary many of the events. It was a good compromise that tied very well. Trying to film scene by scene of the book would have been too long for a 1:45 hour movie. Yet they decided to borrow events from the book, let the story write itself and not think hard about the actual history. The book doesn’t have this constrain and tries to keep the history as close as he can.

If anything, I prefer the movie’s ending to the book’s one.

81 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:10:24am

re: #76 makeitstop

It was the best we could have mustered.

That’s why it didn’t take long for me to ketchup.

82 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:10:39am
83 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:10:45am

Slate scores the baddest Intertubes headline of all time:

The FBI’s Files on Camus and Sartre Confirm the Utter Meaninglessness of It All

slate.com

84 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:11:11am

re: #77 ObserverArt

Thanks for that!

I have it playing in the background on my other PC. Love Squeeze. Used to do covers of Pulling Mussels and Farfisa Beat. I still have the old Farfisa combo organ up in my attic collecting dust.

My band actually took part in a Squeeze tribute album a few years back. We did ‘Farfisa Beat,’ and moved it pretty far afield of how Difford & Tilbrook did it.

85 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:11:34am

re: #81 darthstar

That’s why it didn’t take long for me to ketchup.

I set ‘em up…

86 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:13:06am

re: #85 makeitstop

I set ‘em up…

I shoot ‘em down.

Teamwork!

87 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:13:24am

re: #77 ObserverArt

I’m working on a cover of Pulling Mussels. It’s a PITA.

88 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:14:37am

AAAARRRRRRGHHHH!!!

[FLIPS DESK]

89 Internet Tough Guy  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:19:36am

re: #88 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WHAT IS THIS I DON’T EVEN

90 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:30:48am

re: #84 makeitstop

My band actually took part in a Squeeze tribute album a few years back. We did ‘Farfisa Beat,’ and moved it pretty far afield of how Difford & Tilbrook did it.

Cool. Thanks for that too!

91 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:31:55am

re: #90 ObserverArt

Cool. Mind if I ask what your band’s name was…might have come across some of your stuff?

Nurse Diesel.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:32:10am

hahahaaa…

93 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:33:49am

re: #88 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

The Michigan RTLers want to make abortion coverage more difficult to obtain, so they initiated this petition to separate abortion coverage from insurance policies. It would require affirmatively purchasing an abortion rider to health care coverages in all state insurance settings (exchanges, private insurance, etc.).

It means that a woman would have to think ahead to all possibilities where abortion might be necessary, including instances of rape or medical necessity, and pick coverage or else pay for abortions out of pocket.

It’s small government so small that it fits up inside the lady bits.

94 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:38:02am

re: #93 lawhawk

The Michigan RTLers want to make abortion coverage more difficult to obtain, so they initiated this petition to separate abortion coverage from insurance policies. It would require affirmatively purchasing an abortion rider to health care coverages in all state insurance settings (exchanges, private insurance, etc.).

It means that a woman would have to think ahead to all possibilities where abortion might be necessary, including instances of rape or medical necessity, and pick coverage or else pay for abortions out of pocket.

It’s small government so small that it fits up inside the lady bits.

It is fucked up.

95 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:38:41am

re: #91 makeitstop

Nurse Diesel.

Yeah…I changed my original comment once I realized you had the link right there. My error. I’m working on adding parts to an internet store and listening/watching that great Squeeze documentary linked above. Good stuff.

Love YouTube for all the great stuff that you find now. What an outlet for the history of music. I’m so glad all that old footage, and videos, unknown releases, etc., are now available with a search.

Yesterday was Deep Purple Day…digging through the Deep Purple channel looking at old videos and live footage.

By the way, do you still play in a band, or anything? I still mess with a couple of my old band mates and we still write songs and jam just for the hell of it. When we get some of it completely finished I’d like to put some wave files up here to see what folks think.

96 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:39:17am

re: #76 makeitstop

It was the best we could have mustered.

Good morning. Seems I need to ketchup.

97 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:41:09am

re: #96 Political Atheist

Good morning. Seems I need to ketchup.

We relish the thought!

98 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:41:44am
99 Schadenboner  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:43:44am

re: #98 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Eau My.

Sounds similar to D&G’s Light Blue.

Mrs. Schadenboner likes Light Blue, might as well try this on for size, too.

100 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:45:21am

Does anyone really believe this shit?

CNN/ORC poll: Democrats lose 2014 edge following Obamacare uproar

politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com

It is CNN, after all.

101 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:45:38am

re: #95 ObserverArt

Yeah…I changed my original comment once I realized you had the link right there. My error. I’m working on adding parts to an internet store and listening/watching that great Squeeze documentary linked above. Good stuff.

Love YouTube for all the great stuff that you find now. What an outlet for the history of music. I’m so glad all that old footage, and videos, unknown releases, etc., are no available with a search.

Yesterday was Deep Purple Day…digging through the Deep Purple channel looking at old videoa and live footage.

By the way, do you still play in a band, or anything? I still mess with a couple of my old band mates and we still write songs and jam just for the hell of it. When we get some of it completely finished I’d like to put some wave files up here to see what folks think.

Actually, that band still plays around on LI, I’ve got shows tomorrow night and Friday night. And I also play in NYC with a live rock karaoke band, which is a lot of fun. We’ve done a few cast parties for SNL, and we had Jim Carrey come to our home base club a few years ago and do some songs with us, which made us world famous for a week or so. :)

Post files when you’ve got ‘em! I love hearing what other Lizards do musically.

102 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:46:29am

re: #97 ObserverArt

We relish the thought!

It’s a good thing Ms. Rice didn’t post this comment, because we’d have to spend the entire morning trying to figure out what Condi meant.

103 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:47:27am

re: #102 makeitstop

It’s a good thing Ms. Rice didn’t post this comment, because we’d have to spend the entire morning trying to figure out what Condi meant.

ROFL
You win 1 internet today.

104 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:47:44am

DERP

THEY DON’T REMEMBER THIS

105 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:48:10am

re: #102 makeitstop

It’s a good thing Ms. Rice didn’t post this comment, because we’d have to spend the entire morning trying to figure out what Condi meant.

That would put me in a pickle

106 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:52:18am

re: #105 sattv4u2

That would put me in a pickle

Sweet. Chop, chop!

107 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:55:22am

The Squeeze Documentary just finished up. That was very good and very well done. The BBC does a nice job with things like this.

108 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:57:28am

re: #107 ObserverArt

The Squeeze Documentary just finished up. That was very good and very well done. The BBC does a nice job with things like this.

Have you seen the one they did about Badfinger? That’s a hreat-breaker - that poor band really got f*cked over by the industry, and it ended tragically.

109 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:58:00am

re: #105 sattv4u2

That would put me in a pickle

Ahh, you’re just gherkin me around.

110 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 7:58:24am
111 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:01:24am

re: #109 makeitstop

Ahh, you’re just gherkin me around.

I wouldn’t do that. It wouldn’t be Kosher!

112 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:02:04am

re: #110 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

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113 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:02:06am

re: #111 sattv4u2

Don’t dill-y dally.

114 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:02:31am

re: #108 makeitstop

Have you seen the one they did about Badfinger? That’s a hreat-breaker - that poor band really got f*cked over by the industry, and it ended tragically.

No, do you know the name of it so I can search it up? Our bass player, no longer playing with us, is a huge Badfinger fan, as were all of us. I’d like to check that out and any other recommendations. They were really a great band…and as we all know, the industry messed up many an artist in search of sales back in the day.

I get sort of reflective this time of the year. Winter weather makes me want to stay in and listen to music and watch videos like the Squeeze doc.

115 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:03:43am

re: #110 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Not sure who that is or what the inside joke is but I liked it anyway so upding.

116 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:04:23am

Argh. The Coffee pot isn’t working!!!! No!!!!

Grumble. Put everything together flipped the switch and … nothing. FOO!

Muttter mumble gripe. Where’s the earl grey?

117 piratedan  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:04:54am

re: #114 ObserverArt

No, do you know the name of it so I can search it up? Our bass player, no longer playing with us, is a huge Badfinger fan, as were all of us. I’d like to check that out and any other recommendations. They were really a great band…and as we all know, the industry messed up many an artist in search of sales back in the day.

I get sort of reflective this time of the year. Winter weather makes me want to stay in and listen to music and watch videos like the Squeeze doc.

I think there are two Badfinger docs out there, both worth seeing, a BBC one and a VH1 Behind The Music one. Truly tragic story, such great musicians and the people who exploited them

118 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:05:07am

re: #104 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

If someone has “patriot” in their twitter handle then I don’t think we’re allowed to criticize their tweets because they’re patriots and we aren’t. //

119 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:05:39am

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

Argh. The Coffee pot isn’t working!!!! No!!!!

Grumble. Put everything together flipped the switch and … nothing. FOO!

Muttter mumble gripe. Where’s the earl grey?

ummm,,, is it plugged in !?!!?

120 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:07:04am

re: #114 ObserverArt

No, do you know the name of it so I can search it up? Our bass player, no longer playing with us, is a huge Badfinger fan, as were all of us. I’d like to check that out and any other recommendations. They were really a great band…and as we all know, the industry messed up many an artist in search of sales back in the day.

I get sort of reflective this time of the year. Winter weather makes me want to stay in and listen to music and watch videos like the Squeeze doc.

Here’s the first part:

Youtube Video

God, it jumps bums me right out all over again just watching the first couple of minutes.

121 Dr. Matt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:07:23am

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

Argh. The Coffee pot isn’t working!!!! No!!!!

Try rebooting? Clear the cache? Update your OS?

122 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:07:28am

re: #88 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Rape insurance?

123 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:07:54am

re: #119 sattv4u2

Yes, alas, that was the first thing I looked at.

124 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:08:28am

re: #117 piratedan

I think there are two Badfinger docs out there, both worth seeing, a BBC one and a VH1 Behind The Music one. Truly tragic story, such great musicians and the people who exploited them

Right. I just linked to the VH1 one. I’ll see if I can find the Beeb one.

125 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:10:02am

re: #100 Justanotherhuman

CNN is a 24-hour a day Troll network.

126 piratedan  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:11:41am

re: #124 makeitstop

the BBC one is tougher because (again, not sure, just vaguely recollecting) it may have been done by the BBC Wales group, but the VH1 doc is also pretty comprehensive.

127 Schadenboner  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:13:07am

re: #126 piratedan

the BBC one is tougher because (again, not sure, just vaguely recollecting) it may have been done by the BBC Wales group, but the VH1 doc is also pretty comprehensive.

Don’t feel bad, I can’t understand the Welsh either.

128 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:13:14am

Uh-oh. Get ready for the sound of exploding heads:

Pope attacks ‘tyranny’ of markets in manifesto for papacy

(Reuters) - Pope Francis attacked unfettered capitalism as “a new tyranny” and beseeched global leaders to fight poverty and growing inequality, in a document on Tuesday setting out a platform for his papacy and calling for a renewal of the Catholic Church.

The 84-page document, known as an apostolic exhortation, was the first major work he has authored alone as pope and makes official many views he has aired in sermons and remarks since he became the first non-European pontiff in 1,300 years in March.

In it, Francis went further than previous comments criticizing the global economic system, attacking the “idolatry of money”, and urged politicians to “attack the structural causes of inequality” and strive to provide work, healthcare and education to all citizens.

He also called on rich people to share their wealth. “Just as the commandment ‘Thou shalt not kill’ sets a clear limit in order to safeguard the value of human life, today we also have to say ‘thou shalt not’ to an economy of exclusion and inequality. Such an economy kills,” Francis wrote in the document issued on Tuesday.

“How can it be that it is not a news item when an elderly homeless person dies of exposure, but it is news when the stock market loses 2 points?” […]

reuters.com

Heh, Pope Francis is such a honey badger when it comes to this kind of stuff—gotta love ‘im. Someone really ought to page this. Gotta run. BBL

129 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:18:38am

re: #128 CuriousLurker

Uh-oh. Get ready for the sound of exploding heads:

Heh, Pope Francis is such a honey badger when it comes to this kind of stuff—gotta love ‘im. Someone really ought to page this. Gotta run. BBL

The new Pope is a little stinker isn’t he? I love it. Shakin’ the church up is a good thing and it really did need it. I hope this kind of comment reverberates right on down the line to ALL Christian churches and mostly to the new huge new wave Christian churches.

And Sister Palin is not going to like all this liberal stuff he is saying. Another good thing.

I do so hope he stays safe though…it is a political job and there are a lot of little fiefdoms and pocketbooks going to be upset.

130 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:21:23am

re: #118 Bulworth

If someone has “patriot” in their twitter handle then I don’t think we’re allowed to criticize their tweets because they’re patriots and we aren’t. //

They’re “patriots” who rant about secession and overthrowing an elected President. They have some weird metric of “patriot” it does not mean what they think it means.

131 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:21:47am

re: #116 William Barnett-Lewis

Argh. The Coffee pot isn’t working!!!! No!!!!

Grumble. Put everything together flipped the switch and … nothing. FOO!

Muttter mumble gripe. Where’s the earl grey?

These days I either cold brew or direct pour. Used an aeropress till I broke it. (Me, not manufacturer defect. sigh)

Direct pour - manual drip percolator. Get the water hot in the microwave or in the teapot, set up the percolator with filter and grounds and set over the pot (or cup if only making that), pour hot water through grounds at whatever pace I prefer.

backing up - the aeropress is a great thing for people wanting cold brew, too. Yes it’s slow, yes you have to put it somewhere nobody’ll accidentally press the plunger, but it’s already designed to deal with post-press grounds.

132 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:22:40am

re: #129 ObserverArt

The new Pope is a little stinker isn’t he? I love it. Shakin’ the church up is a good thing and it really did need it. I hope this kind of comment reverberates right on down the line to ALL Christian churches and mostly to the new huge new wave Christian churches.

And Sister Palin is not going to like all this liberal stuff he is saying. Another good thing.

I do so hope he stays safe though…it is a political job and there are a lot of little fiefdoms and pocketbooks going to be upset.

The Pope has little (to no) influence on “ALL Christian churches and mostly to the new huge new wave Christian churches”, just Roman Catholic ones

133 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:24:34am

re: #129 ObserverArt

And Sister Palin is not going to like all this liberal stuff he is saying.

and iirc,, Palin is a non-denominational Christian, not a catholic

134 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:25:21am

WTFITS
[Tweet deleted by twit who realized how stupid it was]

135 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:25:38am

re: #88 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

AAAARRRRRRGHHHH!!!

[FLIPS DESK]

[Embedded content]

Holy shit!

Can these people get any more evil?

Oh crap. I had to ask that question.

136 calochortus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:26:48am

re: #132 sattv4u2

The Pope has little (to no) influence on “ALL Christian churches and mostly to the new huge new wave Christian churches”, just Roman Catholic ones

And a surprising number of politically conservative Catholics seem to think the Pope is misguided since they don’t agree with his “socialist” leaning.

As a matter of human nature, I understand that, but looking at it doctrinally, it makes me dizzy.

137 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:28:12am

re: #133 sattv4u2

And Sister Palin is not going to like all this liberal stuff he is saying.

and iirc,, Palin is a non-denominational Christian, not a catholic

I think this it’s a reference to her recent interview where she was critical of the Pope sounding liberal, regardless of her denomination.

138 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:29:37am

re: #132 sattv4u2

The Pope has little (to no) influence on “ALL Christian churches and mostly to the new huge new wave Christian churches”, just Roman Catholic ones

That can be debated. The Catholic Church is still powerful and what he is doing and saying might bring back some of that power. And it still has influence in the same manner of what happens politically in America can influence other parts of the world. We shall see.

139 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:30:35am

re: #128 CuriousLurker

Uh-oh. Get ready for the sound of exploding heads:

Heh, Pope Francis is such a honey badger when it comes to this kind of stuff—gotta love ‘im. Someone really ought to page this. Gotta run. BBL

Eh, given that the GOP’s foremost “intellectual” in Congress is Paul Ryan, a devotee of Rand and Catholicism, I doubt there will be many exploding heads. There’s not enough explosive matter in their skulls. It’s mostly inert gases.

140 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:30:52am

WTFITS

141 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:32:04am

Alex Jones showing his ass* at the JFK memorial in Dallas

Youtube Video

* - not literally.

142 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:33:50am

re: #141 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Alex Jones showing his ass* at the JFK memorial in Dallas

[Embedded content]

* - not literally.

Alex Jones’ ass is the same as his face.

143 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:36:25am

If the SC agrees to take the Hobby Lobby case about b/c, this means the same justices that decided Citizens United will get to decide whether or not corporations have religious freedom.

Can we really afford go there?

Talk about creeping fascism…

144 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:36:42am

Hmm. Four deer browsing in the backyard here. Time to go bag dinner…

145 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:37:14am

re: #133 sattv4u2

And Sister Palin is not going to like all this liberal stuff he is saying.

and iirc,, Palin is a non-denominational Christian, not a catholic

I think you are being very naive not to see how things can be connected even from individual groups. The Pope carries a lot of weight in the world still. So much that when he mentions something about homosexuals and The Church being a bit more understanding it brings out mention by opposing news channels like Fox and MSNBC and has people like Palin and Bryan Fischer mentioning it.

Now, what was that you were saying about The Pope having limited influences?

146 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:38:02am

IF IT’S BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS IT’S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS BRYAN.

147 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:38:03am

re: #143 Justanotherhuman

If the SC agrees to take the Hobby Lobby case about b/c, this means the same justices that decided Citizens United will get to decide whether or not corporations have religious freedom.

Can we really afford go there?

Talk about creeping fascism…

Can we not wait for a Muslim company to insist that its female employees all wear the hijab and pray five times a day?

148 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:39:14am

re: #131 kirkspencer

My regular drip coffee maker stopped working right (manufacturing defect) a while back so it wasn’t giving a strong enough brew. Bought a french press, and that’s great as far as that goes, but it’s awful in dealing with the grounds.

Got a new drip coffee maker (Cuisinart w/insulated carafe), and have been happy w/results so far.

Still will pull out the french press from time to time for coffee, but it’s also fabulous for doing batches of loose-leaf tea (though still with the cleanup issues).

Wasn’t able to get an aeropress at the time, but hear that it handles the grounds so much better than the french press.

149 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:39:52am

re: #146 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Who wants good Christian sex when there’s wild pagan sex to be had? /semi-serious

150 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:40:05am

re: #145 ObserverArt

I think you are being very naive not to see how things can be connected even from individual groups. The Pope carries a lot of weight in the world still. So much that when he mentions something about homosexuals and The Church being a bit more understanding it brings out mention by opposing news channels like Fox and MSNBC and has people like Palin and Bryan Fischer mentioning it.

Now, what was that you were saying about The Pope having limited influences?

The Pope is as inconsequential as Charles, that’s why the nuts never mention him.
/

151 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:41:08am

re: #149 lawhawk

Who wants good Christian sex when there’s wild pagan sex to be had? /semi-serious

An vindictive, all-seeing divine power willing to cast you into fire for eternity is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

152 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:42:29am

re: #150 Feline Fearless Leader

The Pope is as inconsequential as Charles, that’s why the nuts never mention him.
/

That really didn’t need a sarcasm tag. At least not for me. You get it.

153 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:42:43am
154 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:42:56am

re: #148 lawhawk

My regular drip coffee maker stopped working right (manufacturing defect) a while back so it wasn’t giving a strong enough brew. Bought a french press, and that’s great as far as that goes, but it’s awful in dealing with the grounds.

Got a new drip coffee maker (Cuisinart w/insulated carafe), and have been happy w/results so far.

Still will pull out the french press from time to time for coffee, but it’s also fabulous for doing batches of loose-leaf tea (though still with the cleanup issues).

Wasn’t able to get an aeropress at the time, but hear that it handles the grounds so much better than the french press.

I have a nice Teavana steeping device for doing loose leaf tea in - just does one cup at a time though. Which works well enough most of the time since it’s just me drinking tea.

Variation model of one of these:
teavana.com

155 calochortus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:45:41am

Having finished my coffee (water heated on stove, manually poured through a Melitta filter) I’d better get myself dressed and to the grocery store, perhaps beating the pre-Thanksgiving crowds.

I always ask myself what all these people eat the rest of the year, since for every person in the store with a cart brimming over with groceries, there must be at least a couple people who aren’t cooking that big dinner and therefore aren’t at the store, right? And yet, the place will be packed.

156 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:47:28am

re: #155 calochortus

Having finished my coffee (water heated on stove, manually poured through a Melitta filter) I’d better get myself dressed and to the grocery store, perhaps beating the pre-Thanksgiving crowds.

I always ask myself what all these people eat the rest of the year, since for every person in the store with a cart brimming over with groceries, there must be at least a couple people who aren’t cooking that big dinner and therefore aren’t at the store, right? And yet, the place will be packed.

The other people are in the store buying a few items to take as gift food for the big feed they are attending. I took care of that chore for my brother and I yesterday with the stop at a winery on the way up here. Though we might also be taking pie to a place as well.

157 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:47:53am

re: #154 Feline Fearless Leader

I’ve got ball-type infusers for tea but the french press allows me to do a couple of cups at a time. Multi-tasker. I think the Mrs. has a couple of tea infusers around since she likes her teas.

Speaking of which, I need to make a run to McNulty’s or Spices and Tease for more loose-leaf tea at some point.

158 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:49:02am

GODWIN OF THE DAY

159 Decatur Deb  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:50:09am

re: #151 The Ghost of a Flea

An vindictive, all-seeing divine power willing to cast you into fire for eternity is the ultimate aphrodisiac.

It does add a certain ‘texture’ to fumbling youthful fornication.

160 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:51:29am
161 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:52:43am

Will Jehovah’s WIntess-run companies be allowed to refuse to play for blood transfusions?

162 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:53:37am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’ve got ball-type infusers for tea but the french press allows me to do a couple of cups at a time. Multi-tasker. I think the Mrs. has a couple of tea infusers around since she likes her teas.

Speaking of which, I need to make a run to McNulty’s or Spices and Tease for more loose-leaf tea at some point.

I get loose leaf tea from Wegman’s (the one I frequent has a large selection of loose tea in cannisters where you can scoop out your own into a smaller package) or a specialist place about four blocks from the apartment. The latter has a nice Earl Grey blend that includes vanilla that I am quite fond of.

163 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:53:50am

I’ve become addicted to Celestial Seasonings White Green Tea with anti-oxidants. The touch of orange and other citrus flavors make is similar to the way I used to drink tea…black tea with a squeeze of lemon. I had given up on drinking black teas as it started to make my stomach a little too loopy from the caffeine. Then I happened to try some green teas since they are claimed to be helpful and found this one day in the supermarket and I was hooked.

Just finished a cup a little while ago.

164 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:54:33am

Photo perfection. Right backdrop. Right light. Right subject:


That’s a million dollar photo, and an amazing get for the wedding photographer.

165 Mike Lamb  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:55:22am

re: #160 lawhawk

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Jeebus, this has disaster written all over it.

166 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:55:31am

re: #154 Feline Fearless Leader

I have a nice Teavana steeping device for doing loose leaf tea in - just does one cup at a time though. Which works well enough most of the time since it’s just me drinking tea.

Variation model of one of these:
teavana.com

I put water in a mug, toss a tea bag in, and zap it in the microwave for three minutes. Perfect tea every time. /

There’s no loose leaf tea sold around here anyway, except for Lipton.

167 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:55:41am

re: #162 Feline Fearless Leader

Wegmans has a great selection of loose leaf teas, but McNulty’s has stuff you can’t get anywhere else.

168 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:57:01am
169 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 8:57:55am

re: #164 lawhawk

Photo perfection. Right backdrop. Right light. Right subject:

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That’s a million dollar photo, and an amazing get for the wedding photographer.

Can’t see Bridalveil Falls.

/

170 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:00:06am
171 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:01:22am

re: #164 lawhawk

Photo perfection. Right backdrop. Right light. Right subject:

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That’s a million dollar photo, and an amazing get for the wedding photographer.

Brilliant photo. That particular overlook is probably one of those ten US “money shot” locations*. I have a few from my trip out to California in August. Not the same light though - which is part of what makes that one so striking.

* - Includes north up the Hudson from the West Point Parade Ground, the Jefferson Memorial from the far side of the Tidal Basin (framed by cherry trees), and having someone in your group imitate the “dead sharpshooter” in Devil’s Den at Gettysburg.

172 Belafon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:03:01am

re: #146 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

When do we get to put cameras everywhere they go so that we can make sure they aren’t doing anything immoral?

173 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:03:30am

re: #164 lawhawk Stunning photo. I love Yosemite.

174 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:05:53am
175 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:06:15am
176 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:06:24am
177 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:06:24am

re: #160 lawhawk
OFFS. I’m calling Hobby Lobby in a minute to let them know why I refuse to shop there, EVER.

178 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:07:08am

re: #158 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

GODWIN OF THE DAY

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You’re posting that from the secret attic that you and your family are hiding in, right? Because Obama is the same as Hitler?

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179 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:08:48am

Oh, great.

Family Says They Did Tip Gay Server, Didn’t Leave Note

nbcnewyork.com

180 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:09:06am

re: #160 lawhawk

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Figured it was going to happen since we’ve got conflicting decisions at the appeals level.

As near as I can tell the court hasn’t declared which case (or cases) it’s going to use as the technical basis for the decision. That’s going to be a bit of a critical issue, too.

181 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:09:17am

re: #160 lawhawk

Great. I’m starting my own business, and I belong to the Church of John Brown of Latter-Day Saints, so it’s against my religion to provide health benefits to any registered Republicans. I hope the supremes see things my way!

182 Belafon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:09:50am

re: #143 Justanotherhuman

What’s the most recent court ruling?

It also only takes 4 of the judges for SCOTUS to look at it.

183 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:15:34am

re: #1 HoosierHoops

I’m first! Wait that will get you in trouble..I’m second!
I’m really jacked in the middle of the night. I offered Gus a place to stay in
paradise. My place sleeps 8. I think He’ll fit in.

I better stop eating then. Hang on Hoops. I move slowly. I didn’t earn the Nobel in Procrastinating for nothing you know. Right now I’m rounding up some work. Well, I’m trying to round up some work.

184 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:19:23am

re: #179 Justanotherhuman

Oh, great.

Family Says They Did Tip Gay Server, Didn’t Leave Note

nbcnewyork.com

But it was viral!

185 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:21:11am

… et les autres claypool

186 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:26:45am

re: #146 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Freedom Less Government Liberty

187 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:26:52am

re: #145 ObserverArt

((had to step away fro awhile ,, BUT ,,,
Now, what was that you were saying about The Pope having limited influences?

Do you think what the Pope says will change what Bryan Fischer says/ thinks about gay marriage? (to use an example from your post).

The popes ‘influence” will result in a Bryan comment, but he won’t all of a sudden say “Gee,, the Pope says we shouldn’t worry about gays marrying. Well, thats good enough for me! I’ve TOTALLY changed my mind on th4e subject!”

188 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:27:55am

re: #184 Sol Berdinowitz
I couldn’t bring myself to read the comments. I’m sure it’s only a matter of milliseconds before the usual suspects chime in with how this proves all hatred toward the LGBT community is just a lie.

Sigh. If she did lie, she needs to be fired. I really hope she donates all that money sent to her too, it’s the least she could do. And she shouldn’t take another dime, mark envelopes return to sender and show some shame. Hard to know what to think here, but it’s not cool if she did in fact lie for financial gain.

189 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:29:14am

re: #145 ObserverArt

re: #146 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

IF IT’S BETWEEN CONSENTING ADULTS IT’S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS BRYAN.

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yup,, Bryan REALLY was influenced!!

190 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:29:14am

re: #188 A Mom Anon

I couldn’t bring myself to read the comments. I’m sure it’s only a matter of milliseconds before the usual suspects chime in with how this proves all hatred toward the LGBT community is just a lie.

Sigh. If she did lie, she needs to be fired. I really hope she donates all that money sent to her too, it’s the least she could do. And she shouldn’t take another dime, mark envelopes return to sender and show some shame. Hard to know what to think here, but it’s not cool if she did in fact lie for financial gain.

It proves that the unfiltered Internet is not a source of reliable information.

Wow, like, what a revelation.

/

191 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:29:17am

The Thanksgivukkah‎ Stormageddon is fast approaching the NYC metro area. A wintry mix was beginning to make its appearance in Lower Manhattan, and the weather is only going to get worse over the coming 24 hours.

Thankfully, the storm wont be a snowmaker for NYC proper, but those inland and upstate (and into New England) will be seeing snow.

Stay safe if you’re driving anywhere over the next couple of days. Pack your patience, have a full tank of gas, and relax.

192 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:30:32am

re: #191 lawhawk

The Thanksgivukkah‎ Stormageddon is fast approaching the NYC metro area. A wintry mix was beginning to make its appearance in Lower Manhattan, and the weather is only going to get worse over the coming 24 hours.

Thankfully, the storm wont be a snowmaker for NYC proper, but those inland and upstate (and into New England) will be seeing snow.

Stay safe if you’re driving anywhere over the next couple of days. Pack your patience, have a full tank of gas, and relax.

So far looks like tomorrow will be clear on the 75, the 71 & the 65.

193 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:30:50am

Although driving on the 80 will SUCK.

194 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:30:55am

Horrible.

Former Chair of Montco GOP Charged With Drugging, Raping Co-Worker

philadelphia.cbslocal.com

NORRISTOWN, Pa. (CBS) — The former chairman of the Montgomery County Republican Party is under arrest, accused of drugging and raping a paralegal who worked at his North Wales law firm after a company party last month.

“In its presentment, the grand jury says Robert Kerns plotted and planned to drug the victim to render her unconscious so he could sexually assault her.

“They say he bought a bottle of wine from a restaurant and secretly dissolved the sleep drug Ambien in it.”

No doubt this paralegal had to dodge this guy repeatedly during the work day while trying to preserve her job.

Been there, been subjected to that.

195 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:31:10am
196 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:31:17am

re: #184 Sol Berdinowitz

I did sort of wonder how the people who left the tip/note were supposed to know the waitress’s sexual identity.

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:31:30am

re: #191 lawhawk

The Thanksgivukkah‎ Stormageddon is fast approaching the NYC metro area. A wintry mix was beginning to make its appearance in Lower Manhattan, and the weather is only going to get worse over the coming 24 hours.

Thankfully, the storm wont be a snowmaker for NYC proper, but those inland and upstate (and into New England) will be seeing snow.

Stay safe if you’re driving anywhere over the next couple of days. Pack your patience, have a full tank of gas, and relax.

Starting to flurry here south of Rochester right now. If I’d put off my drive until today I’d probably be somewhere around Binghampton right now.

198 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:31:58am

Guide to dealing with wingnut/moonbat relatives:

199 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:32:15am

Don’t forget the Canadian variant, Cancuckkah: The Lake Yellowknife Backwoods Synagogue thought they only had enough chainsaw oil to cut one cord of wood, not enough to get them through the winter, but alas, it lasted for seven cords!

200 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:32:39am

re: #196 Bulworth

I did sort of wonder how the people who left the tip/note were supposed to know the waitress’s sexual identity.

gaydar

201 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:34:48am

re: #187 sattv4u2

((had to step away fro awhile ,, BUT ,,,
Now, what was that you were saying about The Pope having limited influences?

Do you think what the Pope says will change what Bryan Fischer says/ thinks about gay marriage? (to use an example from your post).

The popes ‘influence” will result in a Bryan comment, but he won’t all of a sudden say “Gee,, the Pope says we shouldn’t worry about gays marrying. Well, thats good enough for me! I’ve TOTALLY changed my mind on th4e subject!”

Sorry, but that’s a stupid comment - if he doesn’t change the mind of a particular person he’s obviously not influential.

The thing is that approximately 25% of the US population is Catholic, and a larger portion of that population not only votes but contributes to political campaigns. Further, other denominations react to what the pope says, either in support or rejection.

I just finished reading the exhortation. I’m going to quote the first two paragraphs because the whole is merely an extension, going into detail and relevant expansions. And once you read it you’ll have some guesses from the non-fundamentalist churches.

source.

1. THE JOY OF THE GOSPEL fills the hearts and lives of all who encounter Jesus. Those who accept his offer of salvation are set free from sin, sorrow, inner emptiness and loneliness. With Christ joy is constantly born anew. In this Exhortation I wish to encourage the Christian faithful to embark upon a new chapter of evangelization marked by this joy, while pointing out new paths for the Church’s journey in years to come.

I. A JOY EVER NEW, A JOY WHICH IS SHARED

2. The great danger in today’s world, pervaded as it is by consumerism, is the desolation and anguish born of a complacent yet covetous heart, the feverish pursuit of frivolous pleasures, and a blunted conscience. Whenever our interior life becomes caught up in its own interests and concerns, there is no longer room for others, no place for the poor. God’s voice is no longer heard, the quiet joy of his love is no longer felt, and the desire to do good fades. This is a very real danger for believers too. Many fall prey to it, and end up resentful, angry and listless. That is no way to live a dignified and fulfilled life; it is not God’s will for us, nor is it the life in the Spirit which has its source in the heart of the risen Christ.

202 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:35:11am
203 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:37:16am

OBAMA PARDONED A TURKEY BUT WHY CAN’T HE PARDON MUMIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

204 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:38:34am

re: #187 sattv4u2

((had to step away fro awhile ,, BUT ,,,
Now, what was that you were saying about The Pope having limited influences?

Do you think what the Pope says will change what Bryan Fischer says/ thinks about gay marriage? (to use an example from your post).

The popes ‘influence” will result in a Bryan comment, but he won’t all of a sudden say “Gee,, the Pope says we shouldn’t worry about gays marrying. Well, thats good enough for me! I’ve TOTALLY changed my mind on th4e subject!”

Not overnight, no. Change is like evolution, time. And if enough people are influenced over time it all changes. Look how far things have come for the LGBT community in one-quater century. I know one thing, a Pope would never have broached the subject back when I was still in Catholic school. Now, he is talking and others are too. That is change. Can you deny that?

What happens if enough people start to say…”you know we may have been wrong” and take a different approach to gays, etc.? Some of those larger churches need to pay bills…if enough people push for change, change will come.

Also, You, I and Bryan Fischer will not be around forever, how do you think the 30- and 20-year old church goers feel about it right now?

205 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:42:43am

re: #203 Gus

slate.com

206 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:45:05am

re: #203 Gus

Obama pardoned a person, too? Impeach. /

207 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:45:18am

re: #194 Justanotherhuman

WTFITS? I don’t even.

208 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:46:33am

re: #128 CuriousLurker

Uh-oh. Get ready for the sound of exploding heads:

Heh, Pope Francis is such a honey badger when it comes to this kind of stuff—gotta love ‘im. Someone really ought to page this. Gotta run. BBL

This quote from the Pope ought to give a few GOP types apoplexy:

In this context, some people continue to defend trickle-down theories which assume that economic growth, encouraged by a free market, will inevitably succeed in bringing about greater justice and inclusiveness in the world. This opinion, which has never been confirmed by the facts, expresses a crude and naïve trust in the goodness of those wielding economic power and in the sacralized workings of the prevailing economic system.

Also this:

While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyranny is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules.

Cue the Pope Francis is a commie! outcry in 3…2…1…

209 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:47:21am

Anyone looking for a stand mixer, here’s the best deal on a Kitchen Aid to be found - $138 after discounts and rebates from Kohls.

bfads.net

It’s the 4.5 quart tilt-head stand mixer, which is the same one I got a few years back. The Mrs. swears by it for her baking needs.

210 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:50:18am

re: #209 lawhawk

Anyone looking for a stand mixer, here’s the best deal on a Kitchen Aid to be found - $138 after discounts and rebates from Kohls.

facebook.com

It’s the 4.5 quart tilt-head stand mixer, which is the same one I got a few years back. The Mrs. swears by it for her baking needs.

This is the best mixer ever.

Yeah it’s pricey but so totally worth it.

211 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:52:40am

re: #208 Lidane

This quote from the Pope ought to give a few GOP types apoplexy:

Also this:

Cue the Pope Francis is a commie! outcry in 3…2…1…

The fun part about the last quote is that it’s essentially a restatement of Adam Smith’s arguments in Wealth of Nations. He reviled the merchant princes for their economic tyrannies. (The pope’s phrase, not Smith’s.)

212 makeitstop  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:52:51am

re: #203 Gus

OBAMA PARDONED A TURKEY BUT WHY CAN’T HE PARDON MUMIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Dudebro font?

213 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:54:24am

re: #212 makeitstop

Because it’s not Barrett Browning

214 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:55:26am

re: #209 lawhawk

Anyone looking for a stand mixer, here’s the best deal on a Kitchen Aid to be found - $138 after discounts and rebates from Kohls.

bfads.net

It’s the 4.5 quart tilt-head stand mixer, which is the same one I got a few years back. The Mrs. swears by it for her baking needs.

I have a Bosch Compact given to me by my granddaughter which someone gave her and she didn’t want it—imagine: no room, she said. I love it.

215 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:56:39am
216 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:56:56am

re: #157 lawhawk

I’ve got ball-type infusers for tea but the french press allows me to do a couple of cups at a time. Multi-tasker. I think the Mrs. has a couple of tea infusers around since she likes her teas.

Speaking of which, I need to make a run to McNulty’s or Spices and Tease for more loose-leaf tea at some point.

In the admittedly-overkill department, this is the tea maker my husband received for Christmas last year.

217 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:58:50am
218 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 9:59:17am

re: #166 wrenchwench

I put water in a mug, toss a tea bag in, and zap it in the microwave for three minutes. Perfect tea every time. /

There’s no loose leaf tea sold around here anyway, except for Lipton.

Have you ever looked at Adagio Teas? If you like loose-leaf.

219 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:00:21am

Pamela shrieks about Pope Francis:

220 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:00:53am
221 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:02:20am

Went for a lunch-break walk around lower Manhattan, through a mix of sleet and snow (kind of pleasant, actually, since it’s lightly falling, and there’s no wind). Of course, it’s going to warm up and turn into rain before it gets freezing cold again on Thursday. The last few days have had highs 15-20 degrees below normal for this time of year.

GLOBAL WARMING IS A MYTH!!!!!!111

222 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:03:24am

Was on the phone with the parental units.

223 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:05:05am

RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT!

224 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:07:43am

re: #223 Gus

RED ALERT! RED ALERT! RED ALERT!

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Corporatist DINOs

225 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:08:29am

re: #220 Lidane

This really isn’t new. JPII and Benedict were critics of unregulated capitalism too, but they (Benedict especially) made the issue a back-burner one while going batshit crazy after gays and contraception. Francis seems to be flipping things on its head, and de-emphasizing the right-wing culture war stuff. Somewhere, Rick Santorum is sobbing, rocking back and forth, and sucking his thumb.

226 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:09:37am

re: #200 Sol Berdinowitz

gaydar

Or just good old observation. And that is all I am going to say. I already wiped out a long response for fear of how it would be taken.

227 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:10:59am

re: #217 Backwoods_Sleuth

Birth control should be a woman’s decision, not her boss’s —>

An employer has the right to tell his employees that he disagrees with their use of contraception, That is what is covered by the First Amendment, not the right to prevent it.

228 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:12:16am

We really do have a dudebro font.

Awesome and thank you Charles!

229 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:12:51am

re: #226 ObserverArt

Or just good old observation. And that is all I am going to say. I already wiped out a long response for fear of how it would be taken.

The point being that what consenting adults do with each other for fun in private in their spare time is NONE OF YOUR F*CKING BUSINESS nor is it the government’s.

230 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:13:18am

re: #227 Sol Berdinowitz

An employer has the right to tell his employees that he disagrees with their use of contraception, That is what is covered by the First Amendment, not the right to prevent it.

Stop making sense…making sense!

231 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:15:15am

re: #225 Ian G.

This really isn’t new. JPII and Benedict were critics of unregulated capitalism too, but they (Benedict especially) made the issue a back-burner one while going batshit crazy after gays and contraception. Francis seems to be flipping things on its head, and de-emphasizing the right-wing culture war stuff. Somewhere, Rick Santorum is sobbing, rocking back and forth, and sucking his thumb.

That’s the key point. He’s not saying anything new in terms of what the Catholic church has been saying for ages. The thing is, he’s making those statements in terms of public policy, which IS new, at least when compared to Benedict, JP II, and the cardinals and bishops in most countries. Matt Yglesias says as much over at Slate:

I remember very clearly having been an intern in Chuck Schumer’s office and attending with the senator, some of his staff, and a wide swathe of New York City political elites an event at St Patrick’s Cathedral to celebrate the posthumous award of the Congressional Gold Medal to Archbishop John O’Connor. His successor, Archbishop Egan, delivered an address that went on at length about O’Connor’s charitable work, but on a public policy level addressed almost exclusively the Church’s support for banning abortion, for discriminating against gay and lesbian couples, and for school vouchers. That was a choice he made about what he thought it was important for people to hear about. Pope Francis is making a different kind of choice.

Honestly, I hope the Pontiff keeps it up. If he keeps talking about poverty and economic inequality over the social conservative stuff, and if he pushes for similar emphasis from the bishops and cardinals, that could be interesting. The reactions from the far right in the States will be fun.

232 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:17:43am

re: #231 Lidane

Honestly, I hope the Pontiff keeps it up. If he keeps talking about poverty and economic inequality over the social conservative stuff, and if he pushes for similar emphasis from the bishops and cardinals, that could be interesting. The reactions from the far right in the States will be fun.

They can add Catholics to the groups of people they have alienated along with blacks, women, gays and immigrants

233 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:20:23am

re: #227 Sol Berdinowitz

An employer has the right to tell his employees that he disagrees with their use of contraception, That is what is covered by the First Amendment, not the right to prevent it.

He has no right to delve into an employee’s personal life, either.

234 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:21:14am

So, speaking of small appliance, soon this

avizo.cz

will be my new washing machine.

It’s an ITT miniwasher, and considering I live in a studio apartment, that’s perfect. $20, used, in perfect shape.

Sweet.

235 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:22:12am

re: #227 Sol Berdinowitz

An employer has the right to tell his employees that he disagrees with their use of contraception, That is what is covered by the First Amendment, not the right to prevent it.

I think it would be a horrifically oppressive work environment if the employer harangued employees all day long about non-work-related political and religiious issues. In fact that would be harassment.

236 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:24:31am

re: #235 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I think it would be a horrifically oppressive work environment if the employer harangued employees all day long about non-work-related political and religiious issues. In fact that would be harassment.

I mean it in the sense that the employer can come out in public in favor of his beliefs, that is covered by the First Amendment.

There are other laws and guidelines governing how and what they can say to their employees about their personal decisions.

237 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:24:44am
238 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:24:53am

Hi all! Have got to do the Rant..( Once a year ) I’ve turned my Nic Blue Gus so we can reconnect again. I’ll leave it blue till the email or phone call.
And now the Rant..
I’m so sick and effening tired of all the shows about Bigfoot..Even my Science channel has sold out for the search for Bigfoot. I’m over it damn it!
Look..We believe in Science here right? No Bullshit about a 6000 yr old earth or any fantasies about evolution of the Universe.
Well.. I can study about Dino bones from 65 to 300 million years ago We study bones from early man of 20000 years ago. We can chip a Billion year old rock and determine it’s journey.
Nobody has found one Bigfoot bone in the history of the Earth so Fucking stop it! Maybe Bigfoot never dies and gets a proper funeral or else they don’t exist. So Stop this Bullshit and calling it science..Damn it!
Rant is over..I feel better..

239 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:25:23am

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

240 ObserverArt  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:26:05am

re: #229 Sol Berdinowitz

The point being that what consenting adults do with each other for fun in private in their spare time is NONE OF YOUR F*CKING BUSINESS nor is it the government’s.

I agree! I hope you and some others at LGF footballs understand what I was getting at. I am pretty sure others do, but it is a tough subject to frame into words without pissing people off.

I could walk next door or across the street and discuss it with my gay neighbors and they would get it.

The problems come, as you put it, when someone observes something and uses it for a judgment against or in a negative way.

I say it all the time, I celebrate people and enjoy people watching and studying their manners and interactions, hence my name here at LGF.

Also, I am a single never married male living in this type of “artist” community, artist, and very much celibate for personal reasons. I know how the cliches cut. Believe me. No matter how you live, past history, etc., people are sure no matter what. I too must be gay. I am not. I know it, and I am fine with my lifestyle. Others. like Catholic relatives, can think what they want, even if they do forget their Catholic teachings that I find myself using for personal reasons even if I am not a practicing Catholic.

And with that…time for lunch and to put on a flack jacket just in case.

241 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:26:24am

re: #237 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Why is there no Glenn?

242 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:26:28am

re: #239 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

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I missed out on the generation of tatoos and piercing. Eyeball implants are nothing short of mutilation.

243 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:26:45am

re: #239 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Just gonna scroll right on by that one, thanks

244 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:29:05am

For anyone who’s interested, Here is the full text of Pope Francis’ Evangelii Gaudium (The Joy of the Gospel).

Oh, and while he reiterated the church’s opposition to abortion (not expecting that to change any time soon), you’ve gotta love some of this stuff, LOL:

Pope Francis Lays Out Mission Statement, Tells Priests Not To Be Defeatist ‘Sourpusses’

He explained his most controversial remarks criticizing the church’s “obsession” with transmitting a disjointed set of moral doctrines, saying that in the church’s “hierarchy of truths,” mercy is paramount, proportion is necessary, and that what counts is inviting the faithful in.

He went even further Tuesday, saying some of the church’s historical customs can even be cast aside if they no longer serve to communicate the faith. Citing St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, Francis stressed the need for moderation in norms “so as to not burden the lives of the faithful.” […]

“I prefer a church which is bruised, hurting and dirty because it has been out on the streets, rather than a church which is unhealthy from being confined and from clinging to its own security,” he wrote. “I do not want a church concerned with being at the center and then ends up by being caught up in a web of obsessions and procedures.”

He added: “More than by fear of going astray, my hope is that we will be moved by the fear of remaining shut up within structures which give us a false sense of security, within rules which make us harsh judges, within habits which make us feel safe, while at our door people are starving and Jesus does not tire of saying to us, ‘Give them something to eat.’”

In the frank and often funny style that has come to define Francis’ preaching, the Argentine Jesuit chastised priests for their complacency, giving them a lesson on preparing homilies that don’t put the faithful to sleep. He reminded them that confession shouldn’t be “torture,” and told them to get out of their sacristies, get their shoes muddy, get involved in the lives of their faithful and not be defeatist “sourpusses.”

talkingpointsmemo.com

This guy is the real deal. He’s gonna piss off a LOT of people, heh.

245 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:29:20am

He is so proud of himself!

246 HoosierHoops  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:29:24am

re: #238 HoosierHoops

My Nic didn’t turn Blue after checking show email…Please stop another Rant! :)

247 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:29:33am

Fuck, I’m not even looking at it and I can still see it. Thanks so much for that.

248 Dr Lizardo  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:30:07am

re: #239 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

[Embedded content]

Yeech. Nothing I’d ever do. I got lousy eyes to begin with, but they’re the only ones I got, so I’ll keep them to OEM, thanks.

249 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:30:10am

Meanwile, the leader of the Southern Baptists is bleating again:

250 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:30:22am

re: #247 Kragar

Fuck, I’m not even looking at it and I can still see it. Thanks so much for that.

Wimp.
///

251 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:30:28am

re: #242 Sol Berdinowitz

I would think your eye would eventually reject that and become infected. And WTF? Or, if you prefer, WTF? I would gladly rid someone of their 3K if they can’t find a better use for it…

252 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:31:09am

re: #239 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I think I’d rather go for the impressive facial scar, than do anything to my eyes.

253 kirkspencer  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:32:27am

re: #238 HoosierHoops

Hi all! Have got to do the Rant..( Once a year ) I’ve turned my Nic Blue Gus so we can reconnect again. I’ll leave it blue till the email or phone call.
And now the Rant..
I’m so sick and effening tired of all the shows about Bigfoot..Even my Science channel has sold out for the search for Bigfoot. I’m over it damn it!
Look..We believe in Science here right? No Bullshit about a 6000 yr old earth or any fantasies about evolution of the Universe.
Well.. >I can study about Dino bones from 65 to 300 million years ago We study bones from early man of 20000 years ago. We can chip a Billion year old rock and determine it’s journey.
Nobody has found one Bigfoot bone in the history of the Earth so Fucking stop it! Maybe Bigfoot never dies and gets a proper funeral or else they don’t exist. So Stop this Bullshit and calling it science..Damn it!
Rant is over..I feel better..

Image: settled.png

254 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:32:44am

Glenn Greenwald has a follower (maybe a sockpuppet) “Mona Holland” who is, I just can’t even, someone who always wants Glenn’s farts in her (its?) tummy.

255 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:33:29am

WTFITS

256 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:34:52am

Something like 300 millions PCs in the world, then 200 million tablets and countless Smartphones.

The NSA program, if true, affected .016% of the PCs

257 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:22am

re: #255 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Conservative arts & crafts project.

258 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:30am

re: #237 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

[Embedded content]

That shows, pretty much, what’s wrong with this kind of “poll” (being basically a popularity contest), esp when a 20 yr old marginally talented singer gets more votes than 2 mature, serious women and worse, when a thief gets the top votes.

Even Malala Yousafzai isn’t in the Top 10, and the #2 pick is a Hindu Nationalist.

Good grief, already.

259 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:37am

re: #250 Varek Raith

Wimp.
///

I don’t even like contacts. Anything to do with putting stuff in the eyes creeps me out.

260 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:44am

re: #255 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

I don’t even…..well, James Earl Ray and John Wilkes Booth are both Republicans if they’re alive today. The others are either literally insane (Garfield) or so outside the political mainstream as to fit no categorization.

As usual, with teabaggers, none of this tweet makes a lick of sense.

261 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:45am

If we use Wingnut Logic:

262 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:35:54am

re: #218 dr. klys

Have you ever looked at Adagio Teas? If you like loose-leaf.

I’m not really a connoisseur. Plus, I’ve started to drink coffee (after 25 years of not). It’s hard to be a part time coffee drinker. Tea consumption is declining rapidly….

263 Varek Raith  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:36:10am

re: #259 Kragar

I don’t even like contacts. Anything to do with putting stuff in the eyes creeps me out.

I know what you mean. I have a hellish time putting in eye drops.

264 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:36:34am

re: #249 Lidane

Meanwile, the leader of the Southern Baptists is bleating again:

[Embedded content]

My 2 sons would tell Land to go fuck himself.

265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:37:06am
266 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:37:22am

re: #244 CuriousLurker
I like all this, but you know, I really cannot have respect for the Church leadership until they begin purging the pedophiles from their ranks and marching them to the nearest police station instead of covering for them. My mother was the victim of sex abuse in the Church and was physically punished for it for a long time when she came forward. She tried really hard to cling to what she grew up with, I was even baptized Catholic. But she left shortly after that and never set foot in another Catholic Church again. That abuse had a profound effect on my childhood and my siblings, it’s kind of hard for me to overlook that. I really wish Pope Francis would address this, though I am not sure how much he can personally do beyond denounce it and see to it the covering up stops to the degree he can.

267 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:37:29am

re: #249 Lidane

Meanwile, the leader of the Southern Baptists is bleating again:

[Embedded content]

While there are already plenty of kids waiting to be adopted.

268 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:37:48am

re: #254 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

Glenn Greenwald has a follower (maybe a sockpuppet) “Mona Holland” who is, I just can’t even, someone who always wants Glenn’s farts in her (its?) tummy.

They used to work together or she used to work for him or something. She’s a lawyer, and yes, follows GG around Twitter like a puppy.

269 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:38:55am

re: #265 Backwoods_Sleuth

[Embedded content]

John Stewart works at the Philadelphia International Airport escorting passengers in wheelchairs.

I always tip the airport wheelchair pusher $10, now I think I should make that $20.

270 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:39:47am

re: #268 wrenchwench

They used to work together or she used to work for him or something. She’s a lawyer, and yes, follows GG around Twitter like a puppy.

She’s also a raging Juice hater & Holocaust denier.

271 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:41:34am

re: #262 wrenchwench

I’m not really a connoisseur. Plus, I’ve started to drink coffee (after 25 years of not). It’s hard to be a part time coffee drinker. Tea consumption is declining rapidly….

I just wanted to point that out since their prices are decent and it’s a reasonable way to get loose-leaf from online. The husband gets his favorites from there (I am not a fan of all lightly flavored waters).

272 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:41:57am

re: #266 A Mom Anon

I like all this, but you know, I really cannot have respect for the Church leadership until they begin purging the pedophiles from their ranks and marching them to the nearest police station instead of covering for them. My mother was the victim of sex abuse in the Church and was physically punished for it for a long time when she came forward. She tried really hard to cling to what she grew up with, I was even baptized Catholic. But she left shortly after that and never set foot in another Catholic Church again. That abuse had a profound effect on my childhood and my siblings, it’s kind of hard for me to overlook that. I really wish Pope Francis would address this, though I am not sure how much he can personally do beyond denounce it and see to it the covering up stops to the degree he can.

Sorry to hear about your mom’s experiences. That’s definitely a serious problem that must be addressed. Maybe if lots of people write to him about it, he will—he seems to be responding to others with serious concerns.

273 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:42:37am

“I want apple juice!”

274 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:43:16am

re: #272 CuriousLurker

Sorry to hear about your mom’s experiences. That’s definitely a serious problem that must be addressed. Maybe if lots of people write to him about it, he will—he seems to be responding to others with serious concerns.

Remember that Benedict was actively involved in the hush-up operation. Will be interesting to see how Francis responds to the next scandal that is unearthed.

275 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:44:36am

re: #237 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

[Embedded content]

Go Miley!!!

276 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:45:17am

So it begins.

277 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:45:53am

Also. ICYMI. Alec Baldwin got the boot from MSNBC.

278 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:46:28am

re: #275 b.d.

Go Miley!!!

Oh, no you didn’t! //

279 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:46:29am

And B-52s flying around in Southeast Asia. Good times.

280 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:46:40am

Morning all!

How is life?

281 A Mom Anon  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:47:58am

re: #272 CuriousLurker
Yeah, I think that change is going to have to come from the Church membership pressuring the hierarchy to knock it off or the money flowing in dries up. I just think there’s a lot of engrained deferring to authority there that is going to be very hard to break out of. And maybe fear of making God mad or something. That’s what happened with Mom, her parents were so devout and blinded that they were more concerned about what people would think than they were with her well being. It was the 1940s and 50s when this happened too, so our culture overall wasn’t dealing with this sort of thing well at all. Not that we do now, but it is better. We have many miles to go sadly. We should be farther along on that, why we aren’t is complicated.

282 CuriousLurker  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:48:15am

Gah, gotta get back to work, but before I go…

283 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:49:03am

How likely is it that 60 very different tech companies and about 115 Congressional and Senatorial co sponsors would get this legislation or the need for it wrong? Not very likely.


Paged.

284 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:50:37am

re: #282 CuriousLurker

Gah, gotta get back to work, but before I go…

[Embedded content]

I’m 60-something and could still use that t-shirt…

285 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:51:04am

re: #235 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

I think it would be a horrifically oppressive work environment if the employer harangued employees all day long about non-work-related political and religiious issues. In fact that would be harassment.

How would an employer know if an employee uses contraception?

286 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:51:46am
287 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:52:21am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

How would an employer know if an employee uses contraception?

Best to assume they’re all dirty sluts from the get go.
/

288 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:52:39am

re: #286 Kragar

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Bryan Fischer’s “Constitution” is the one that David Barton made up.

289 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:53:07am

re: #286 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Did Angola Really Ban Islam?

290 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:54:38am

re: #286 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Fischer should totally focus his efforts on trying to have states outlaw Islam, he should start with the states where he has the most pull.

291 Lidane  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:55:08am

re: #286 Kragar

The First Amendment, how the fuck does it work?

292 Ian G.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:55:39am

re: #286 Kragar

Problems:

1st amendment gives people the freedom to practice Islam.

14th amendment applies all of that to the states.

The end.

And Bryan will inevitably bring up the founders’ “intent”. Well, I’ll let Tommy Jefferson speak for himself:

Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting “Jesus Christ,” so that it would read “A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;” the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.

The 1st amendment applies to Muslims too, Bryan.

293 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:55:53am

re: #242 Sol Berdinowitz

I missed out on the generation of tatoos and piercing. Eyeball implants are nothing short of mutilation.

We thought we were edgy in the late ’50s getting our ears pierced, only because I lived in Miami and it was culturally accepted by the Hispanic communities—it wouldn’t have been done in NC then. I’ve never been tempted to get a tattoo or any other piercings, though, anywhere at all, over the years.

I have a young neighbor with lots of piercings (huge ear holes, nose, eyebrow & nipple rings plus probably ones I don’t see) and lots of tats and I’ve gotten used to him, though, and his visiting buddy who has even more. My granddaughter got a tongue stud when she was still a teen, but abandoned it. Gives me the painful creeps to think about having something like those done, but that’s just me.

294 b.d.  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:56:22am

re: #276 Gus

So it begins.

[Embedded content]

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan is no longer hosting the Committee to Protect Journalists’ press freedom awards dinner Tuesday night in New York.

In her place will be fellow “60 Minutes” correspondent Scott Pelley.

politico.com

295 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:58:37am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

How would an employer know if an employee uses contraception?

Hmm. If my past experience is any indicator, people talk, and someone is always brown-nosing the boss.

296 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:58:40am
297 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:58:45am

re: #283 Political Atheist

How likely is it that 60 very different tech companies and about 115 Congressional and Senatorial co sponsors would get this legislation or the need for it wrong? Not very likely.


Paged.

I am not commenting on the merits of the legislation, but appeal to numbers and/or authority means jack shit, really.

298 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:59:02am

re: #294 b.d.

politico.com

Yet more proof that people on Twitter need to hold their horses on things.

299 leftynyc  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:59:08am

re: #249 Lidane

Meanwile, the leader of the Southern Baptists is bleating again:

[Embedded content]

I’d like him to say that to Sarah and Bristol Palin’s face.

300 Gus  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 10:59:57am

Next up! Lara Logan vs. CBS News, et al.

301 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:00:29am

When you’ve lost Rick Scott…

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:01:09am
303 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:01:36am

re: #290 b.d.

Fischer should totally focus his efforts on trying to have states outlaw Islam, he should start with the states where he has the most pull.

He couldn’t even get Islam banned in the town of Tupelo.

304 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:02:16am

Joann Fabrics Merry Moolah Coupons

305 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:03:23am

re: #295 Justanotherhuman

Hmm. If my past experience is any indicator, people talk, and someone is always brown-nosing the boss.

I think the concept is that if you have employer based insurance, they will somehow know. Which is bullshit —your employer has no right to your medical information.

306 dog philosopher  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:03:50am

re: #255 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

WTFITS

[Embedded content]

all white people

so tell me again how black people are the dangerous ones?

307 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:04:17am

re: #244 CuriousLurker

Amen.

308 darthstar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:05:47am

This game is harder than it looks.

309 Bulworth  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:07:04am

re: #308 darthstar

Has anyone done a welfare-check on Bill Donohoe and the Catholic League recently?

//

310 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:07:43am

re: #297 dr. klys

I am not commenting on the merits of the legislation, but appeal to numbers and/or authority means jack shit, really.

Does that not depend on where the numbers come from & who they represent? With legislation the number and nature of support and opposition is supposed to be key, unless money or stark manipulation interferes.

311 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:08:05am

So does Steve Stockman own a farm? I thought he made all his money from the “Presidential Trust Hedge Fund” or something.

312 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:09:46am

re: #305 FemNaziBitch

I think the concept is that if you have employer based insurance, they will somehow know. Which is bullshit —your employer has no right to your medical information.

Well, yes, of course they don’t.

313 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:10:29am

re: #311 Pumpkin Pie Of Zion

He’s just doing a little subsidy-tending.
farm.ewg.org

314 Kragar  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:10:37am

re: #308 darthstar

This game is harder than it looks.

[Embedded content]

8/10

315 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:11:15am

re: #299 leftynyc

I’d like him to say that to Sarah and Bristol Palin’s face.

It wouldn’t have any effect since they’re all fucking hypocrites.

316 jaunte  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:12:01am

Wow, talk about a government teat, Hendersons.
farm.ewg.org

317 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:13:21am

re: #312 Justanotherhuman

Well, yes, of course they don’t.

There seems to be an effort to instill the idea that they do. Parentis in loco is the new meme for employers among the Whackos.

“Only the truth you believe counts”, Fox News Drone.

318 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:13:48am

re: #315 Justanotherhuman

It wouldn’t have any effect since they’re all fucking hypocrites.

They are on a mission from their G-d.

319 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:14:08am

re: #310 Political Atheist

Does that not depend on where the numbers come from & who they represent? With legislation the number and nature of support and opposition is supposed to be key, unless money or stark manipulation interferes.

Your first comment said:

re: #283 Political Atheist

How likely is it that 60 very different tech companies and about 115 Congressional and Senatorial co sponsors would get this legislation or the need for it wrong? Not very likely.

You’ve got the numbers (60 companies! 115 Congress-critters!) and the appeal to authority (clearly the tech companies who are all different and generally don’t agree know best!) to say that this legislation and the need for it must be legit.

I mean, that’s what your comment said.

Of course, I don’t necessarily think that these two things mean that the legislation is well written. I made it clear I wasn’t commenting on the merits of the legislation itself because I haven’t reviewed it yet. I do think that there’s a lot of work to be done in this area to clarify the balance between privacy and national security concerns.

I also know there’s a shit-ton of dudebros in the tech industry.

320 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:15:08am

Ouch. Eastern shore of Lake Erie will get 12-18 in of snow.

321 sagehen  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:15:20am

re: #285 FemNaziBitch

How would an employer know if an employee uses contraception?

Large employers might have their own in-house insurance, rather than buying a Blue Cross group policy.

322 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:15:52am

re: #320 Justanotherhuman

Ouch. Eastern shore of Lake Erie will get 12-18 in of snow.

Lake effect can be a bitch.

323 Justanotherhuman  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:20:09am

re: #316 jaunte

Wow, talk about a government teat, Hendersons.
farm.ewg.org

More on that private company. “Energy grasses” or bilking the govt for ethanol with BP’s help.

thevindicator.com

324 Political Atheist  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:20:14am

re: #319 dr. klys

Aha. the last line tells me the source of your issue. These are the very companies with the most at stake. That ordinarily is perfectly legit. But somehow, not today.

Worries about Dudebros seem to take precedence over absorbing the actual content of the legislation.

Removing the Patriot Act and support for this legislation polled well here. But discussing it hits lots of friction.

And so the Greenwald dudebro factor makes discussion so very difficult, despite the fact it’s not that hard to ignore the over the top advocates and look at an issue more sensibly than they do.

What if PETA made people resist legislation aimed at reducing animal cruelty?

By what measure is accounting for the level and kind of support for legislation an inappropriate appeal to authority?

325 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 11:20:50am

re: #321 sagehen

Large employers might have their own in-house insurance, rather than buying a Blue Cross group policy.

Still they have no right to your private information.

326 klys  Tue, Nov 26, 2013 12:37:30pm

re: #324 Political Atheist

The problem I had with your comment (and the reason I replied in the first place) is that you weren’t discussing the actual legislation. I specifically said I wasn’t commenting on the legislation itself, merely that numbers and appeal to authority are kind of shitty ways to try and sell it.


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