Mike Huckabee Labels Lara Logan a ‘Hero Journalist’ for Discredited Benghazi Report

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On Wednesday morning, Fox News host Brian Kilmeade asked Huckabee to respond to the news that Logan had been effectively suspended indefinitely from 60 Minutes.

“Very shocked,” Huckabee said. “And I think that the fact is that we’re missing the big story here. We still don’t know what happened in Benghazi. Our government lied to us, they covered it up.”

“Lara Logan is certainly a hero journalist to at least attempt to get the story out,” he added.

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1 Sol Berdinowitz  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:12:21am

A hero who is not going be deterred by any facts that contradict the Talking Points

2 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:12:43am

Does Huck remember that FNC passed on this ‘story’ because they knew it was likely a lie, or does he just not care?

3 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:14:34am

So I would be a hero for pointing out Huckabee has been associated with stolen copyrighted material in the past?

4 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:14:55am

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Does Huck remember that FNC passed on this ‘story’ because they knew it was likely a lie, or does he just not care?

BENGHAZI!

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:15:13am

I really like it when wingnuts like Mike Huckabee make it perfectly clear that they do not give a single solitary shit about telling the truth.

6 nines09  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:16:35am

I’m very shocked this pig calls himself a Christian,. Sick uninsurable people to him were no better than a burned down house. That’s a revealing statement equating a life with a possession.

7 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:16:44am

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I really like it when wingnuts like Mike Huckabee make it perfectly clear that they do not give a single solitary shit about telling the truth.

They’ll claim they’re working towards a higher TRUTH.

8 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:22:25am

Let’s face it, every segment on Fox is an “Ask an idiot” skit.

9 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:23:26am

re: #6 nines09

I’m not shocked at all. People like Huckabee often hide behind/use religion to either cover for their own prejudices or be asses in general.

10 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:25:57am

Reinforcing false realities right in front of us like a True Believer.

Huckabee and the rest of the Benghazi knuckledraggers belong to a cult.

11 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:27:05am

“She’s a hero for trying to get the truth out there, even if the truth turned out to be a lie!”

And what is this “We still don’t know what happened!” noise? I think what he really means is that there’s not been any evidence of anything that Obama or Clinton did that was egregiously wrong. And since Obama’s the Antichrist, and HRC is the Anti-Mary, there MUST BE something!!!

Assholes.

12 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:27:13am
13 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:27:17am

YO DAWG

I HEARD YOU LIKE BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

SO I PUT SOME BEARING FALSE WITNESS INSIDE YOUR BEARING FALSE WITNESS.

14 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:27:27am

re: #10 Tim TeaBro

Reinforcing false realities right in front of us like a True Believer.

Huckabee and the rest of the Benghazi knuckledraggers belong to a cult.

They’re already in one.

15 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:28:00am

Wait for it. You know the nutters will be unable to resist the impulse.

This is just another conspiracy to discredit a good hard working journalist who was trying to uncover what really happened in Benghaz !!!i

16 piratedan  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:29:18am

don’t forget Faux, which still allows him this forum to spout this inane bs, all the while knowing that it is complete and utter bullshit because they wouldn’t even touch it themselves.

Each time I want to smack our Dems for lack of fortitude and “gumption”, one of these mealymouthed opportunists from the Right steps up and stiffens my resolve for them all over again and assures me that while I may not be entirely pleased with my Dem representatives, these guys on the right would have no issues turning us into The Handmaid’s Tale and the media would raise nary an eyebrow as long as the ad buys keep showing up on time.

17 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:31:03am

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Does Huck remember that FNC passed on this ‘story’ because they knew it was likely a lie, or does he just not care?

He doesn’t care. It’s all about BENGHAZI!!1!.

18 William of Orange  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:32:07am

In other news blunders….

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This is inexcusable.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:32:09am

Liars, damn liars, and Republicans.

20 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:32:51am

Huckabee doesn’t ever get it right either, so of course he loves it when someone else doesn’t.

21 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:33:57am

Logan was the face of the liberal media now she’s the hero.

How soon before she’s on Fox?

22 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:36:18am

CBS

See B.S.

23 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:40:12am

re: #18 William of Orange

>In other news blunders….

Image: 11008698426_0d2da8709d_b.jpg

This is inexcusable.

Goddamn. Is that this ad agency? Sure looks like their initials/logo.

tm.com

They’re in Dallas. linkedin.com

24 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:40:48am

“We still don’t know what happened in Benghazi”

vs

“Our government lied to us, they covered it up”

logic fail 101

there are so many things that i know for sure about something that i don’t know about

25 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:41:35am

re: #17 Lidane

He doesn’t care. It’s all about BENGHAZI!!1!.

I believe that the whole Right Wing is terribly upset that none of their “Fill-in-the-blank-gates” ever pans out. It drives them nuts that they can’t seem to find Obama’s Kryptonite, because they’re DEAD CERTAIN that he MUST have done, or be doing something truly horrible.

This is why you hear them talking about impeachment, but the charges they talk about aren’t actual charges, but rather the names of scandals, without specifying what crime Obama may have committed for which they have any evidence.

It’s driven them to cling like limpets to anything even remotely negative, in the forlorn hope that it will turn out to be The Answer To the Ultimate Question Of Life, The Universe, And Everything The Key To Obama’s Downfall, and to make every single thing into The Worst Thing Since Slavery Hitler Stalin Mao The Holocaust New Coke Ever.

26 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:41:54am

re: #21 Tim TeaBro

Logan was the face of the liberal media now she’s the hero.

How soon before she’s on Fox?

first she’ll have to learn to lie without admitting it

27 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:43:35am

having to be at work today is Worse Than Munich

28 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:45:15am

re: #27 dog philosopher

having to be at work today is Worse Than Munich

All the squids are gone, and its just me and another guy in the office.

29 Political Atheist  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:46:31am

re: #27 dog philosopher

having to be at work today is Worse Than Munich

Hah. What’s that make Friday? Worse than the killing fields?//

30 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:47:02am
31 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:47:03am

re: #27 dog philosopher

having to be at work today is Worse Than Munich

Yep, and I’m worse than Stalin for expecting my minions to be productive.

32 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:47:29am
33 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:48:38am

re: #31 GeneJockey

Yep, and I’m worse than Stalin for expecting my minions to be productive.

does that include senior associate minions, class II?

34 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:49:12am

re: #32 Kragar

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Also not HIS call whether they’re medically necessary. Why does he want to come between the doctor and the patient?

35 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:49:58am

re: #32 Kragar

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He’s lying about the abortifacientness, too.

36 erik_t  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:50:10am

Logan might technically meet the definition of “hero journalist” (whatever that means) if one takes the position that the purpose of journalism is to steer the conversation, not to actually present facts. She did a fine job of the former.

I see no evidence that the Fox crowd, and a very sizable wing of the Republican Party, would disagree with that position,

37 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:50:48am

Meanwhile, the dudebros at Reason are upset:


Never mind the fact that the Pope isn’t saying anything new. The Catholic Church has criticized unfettered capitalism for ages. Francis is just emphasizing that criticism over social issues as a matter of policy.

38 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:51:09am

Working today is worse than the Holocaust, 1000 years of Beiber, Bubonic Plague and the 65m year old asteroid. And stuff.

39 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:52:01am

re: #35 wrenchwench

He’s lying about the abortifacientness, too.

Yep. It’s just an excuse.

40 piratedan  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:52:42am

re: #30 wrenchwench

with the amount of service that we get, in regards to flights and such, you’d think Tucson was no bigger than Yuma… almost all of our options are stripped thanks to Phoenix being 120 miles away.

41 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:52:48am

re: #35 wrenchwench

He’s lying about the abortifacientness, too.

I know.

42 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:53:00am

re: #33 dog philosopher

does that include senior associate minions, class II?

GET BACK TO WORK!

43 BongCrodny  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:53:07am

Minions go political.

This one’s for you, Huckabee!

Despicable He

44 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:53:25am

re: #29 Political Atheist

Hah. What’s that make Friday? Worse than the killing fields?//

don’t you mean to say BENGHAZI!!!

45 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:53:33am

re: #41 Kragar

I know.

Could be a she, I suppose.

46 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:54:40am

re: #45 wrenchwench

Could be a she, I suppose.

I think if you bet on it being a he, the odds would be in your favor.

47 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:55:38am

re: #43 BongCrodny

Minions go political.

This one’s for you, Huckabee!

Despicable He

“Despicable He” — kinda explains Huck’s whiny high pitched voice.
Or it could just be that his shorts keep giving him wedgies…

48 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:56:11am

Good afternoon Lizards. Today summed up in two pictures.

Breakfast

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49 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:56:50am

Just like Munich!!!11!!1! Oh, wait. That Munich hadn’t happened yet….

50 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 11:58:14am

re: #49 wrenchwench

Obviously, selling out the Jews to the Iranians is a Democrat tradition.

//

51 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:00:21pm

Mike Huckabee. Hmmm. Mike Huckabee? I seem to remember that name. Maybe from years ago. Tell me why I or anyone should remember Mike Huckabee. Did he do something anyone would actually benefit from? Mike Huckabee? Sorry, not ringing any bells.

52 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:01:46pm
53 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:03:30pm

I can’t wait for the RWNJ tweets about how Texas is overrun with RINOs and libtards:

54 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:05:08pm

re: #52 Kragar

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Nothing for the Contras!!!

55 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:09:17pm

Hmmm….

56 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:09:44pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Does Huck remember that FNC passed on this ‘story’ because they knew it was likely a lie, or does he just not care?

Ahem.

FOX passed on paying the dude. Adam Housley, the reporter who worked with “Morgan Jones” has explicitly said that Davies/Jones’ story confirms the reporting on Benghazi that FOX was already doing, and hasn’t retracted anything.

So it’s not quite FOX having an attack of journalistic standards, and more FOX calling out the faults of others to deflect attention from their misdeeds of exactly the same variety.

57 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:11:29pm
58 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:14:49pm
59 Belafon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:17:14pm

re: #53 Lidane

Why am I not surprised. One of my favorite stories about Texas during the Civil War is that a number of Texas soldiers refused to join the fighting unless they were part of a cavalry. The problem was that the South was running short on horses. So the compromise was the “cavalry unmounted”: The soldiers were part of a cavalry unit, but they fought on foot.

60 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:17:49pm

re: #57 Kragar

Plan B isn’t just “to cover irresponsibility”. It’s a backup plan if the condom breaks or you forget to take the Pill or whatever. It’s also a single pill that you can give to a rape victim soon after she’s been attacked and prevent her from facing a forced pregnancy on top of the other trauma she’s already dealing with.

God, these judgemental assholes make me sick.

61 Dave In Austin  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:19:10pm

re: #53 Lidane

I can’t wait for the RWNJ tweets about how Texas is overrun with RINOs and libtards:

Yeah, the Statesman has got some real winners in the comments today

62 Belafon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:21:40pm

re: #60 Lidane

63 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:22:16pm

Sure, that seems reasonable:

64 erik_t  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:22:26pm

re: #60 Lidane

Plan B isn’t just “to cover irresponsibility”. It’s a backup plan if the condom breaks or you forget to take the Pill or whatever.

“Making sure you have a backup plan before you start” = “irresponsibility”

Don’t you just fucking love Republicans?

65 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:22:48pm

re: #17 Lidane

He doesn’t care. It’s all about BENGHAZI!!1!.

BENGHAZI & BENJAMINS

66 Eclectic Cyborg  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:23:10pm

Obama administration announces healthcare.gov delay

Total failyur!!!

67 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:23:25pm

re: #65 ObserverArt

BENGHAZI & BENJAMINS

Youtube Video

68 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:24:30pm

re: #60 Lidane

Plan B isn’t just “to cover irresponsibility”. It’s a backup plan if the condom breaks or you forget to take the Pill or whatever. It’s also a single pill that you can give to a rape victim soon after she’s been attacked and prevent her from facing a forced pregnancy on top of the other trauma she’s already dealing with.

God, these judgemental assholes make me sick.

Ssshhh.

You’re dangerously close to suggesting that there’s a guy involved in getting pregnant during sex, and that his decisions and mistakes can affect the woman….

69 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:25:53pm

re: #64 erik_t

“Making sure you have a backup plan before you start” = “irresponsibility”

Don’t you just fucking love Republicans?

Seriously. It’s called Plan B for a reason. It assumes that you’ve got a Plan A, such as condoms, or the patch or the Pill or whatever. It’s $50 a dose, so it’s not cheap. Using it as your primary birth control would be stupid, but in a pinch it prevents an unwanted pregnancy and lowers the abortion rate.

You’d think that conservatives would cheer having a plan and a backup plan if something goes wrong so that you’re not irresponsible. Guess not.

70 gwangung  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:27:10pm

re: #25 GeneJockey

I believe that the whole Right Wing is terribly upset that none of their “Fill-in-the-blank-gates” ever pans out.

Actually, I think for some of them, this is a feature, not a bug. This pout rage raises so much dust and noise that when something truly heinous comes up (preferably by a Republcian), it’ll get dismissed.

71 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:27:26pm

re: #68 The Ghost of a Flea

Ssshhh.

You’re dangerously close to suggesting that there’s a guy involved in getting pregnant during sex, and that his decisions and mistakes can affect the woman….

It’s only because those evil secular women cast some kind of spell with their magical lady bits and forces the poor man to unwillingly give up his precious bodily essence in spite of his best efforts, and even thinking about baseball /snark

RBS
Who knows it takes 2 to tango

72 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:27:39pm

Extra bonus: when you write down reminders for doing the important things.

Like remembering to move the turkey from the freezer to the fridge. (They’re cutlets, I’m still in time.)

Thank you, me of yesterday, for having the forethought to write down a reminder. Because otherwise I would have totally forgot.

73 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:28:08pm

re: #69 Lidane

Seriously. It’s called Plan B for a reason. It assumes that you’ve got a Plan A, such as condoms, or the patch or the Pill or whatever. It’s $50 a dose, so it’s not cheap. Using it as your primary birth control would be stupid, but in a pinch it prevents an unwanted pregnancy and lowers the abortion rate.

You’d think that conservatives would cheer having a plan and a backup plan if something goes wrong so that you’re not irresponsible. Guess not.

Well, you’d only think that if you only listened to them describing their motivation, not if you observed their actions.

Want to see a wingnut head explode? Tell them the best way to reduce abortions is to support and fund Planned Parenthood.

74 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:28:50pm

re: #42 GeneJockey

GET BACK TO WORK!

pointy haired boss

75 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:29:42pm

At long last, a new niece photo! They are looking at frogs. Both the niece parents are batrachologists. Looks like they made another one.

76 Aunty Entity Dragon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:30:38pm

re: #63 Lidane

Sure, that seems reasonable:

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Damn.

*spit*

77 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:31:20pm

re: #67 Varek Raith

[“Weird Al” Yankovic - It’s All About The Pentiums]

That put a smile on my face. Thanks! Never saw it before.

78 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:31:23pm

re: #72 dr. klys

Extra bonus: when you write down reminders for doing the important things.

Like remembering to move the turkey from the freezer to the fridge. (They’re cutlets, I’m still in time.)

Thank you, me of yesterday, for having the forethought to write down a reminder. Because otherwise I would have totally forgot.

This is the advantage of having done Thanksgiving at least 25 times. I can do the grocery list from memory, and all the timing things are automatic. It was not always thus, of course.

EDIT: remembering that Pride Goeth Before A Fall, I should be careful not to boast. Karma’s a bitch.

79 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:32:48pm

re: #77 ObserverArt

That put a smile on my face. Thanks! Never saw it before.

“If I ever see you, I’ll ctrl-alt-delete you!”

80 A Mom Anon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:34:15pm

re: #75 wrenchwench

OMG, that’s just cute squared. Ribbit!!!

81 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:34:17pm

re: #73 GeneJockey

Well, you’d only think that if you only listened to them describing their motivation, not if you observed their actions.

Want to see a wingnut head explode? Tell them the best way to reduce abortions is to support and fund Planned Parenthood.

I’ve done that before…. am promptly told that “Abstinence is the only thing that works 100% of the time”. I tell them they are correct as far as they go, but once they go too far, it’s 0% effective. They get a glazed look in their eyes and start muttering stuff about how if we don’t show them condoms they won’t want to have sex. It must be boring to live in such a simple primary colored 1 dimensional world

RBS
Who likes his world in various shades and shadings, with lots of angles and curves

82 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:34:54pm

re: #69 Lidane

Seriously. It’s called Plan B for a reason. It assumes that you’ve got a Plan A, such as condoms, or the patch or the Pill or whatever. It’s $50 a dose, so it’s not cheap. Using it as your primary birth control would be stupid, but in a pinch it prevents an unwanted pregnancy and lowers the abortion rate.

You’d think that conservatives would cheer having a plan and a backup plan if something goes wrong so that you’re not irresponsible. Guess not.

Pretty sure you’ve noticed…the Republican’s haven’t had a plan for 5 years now. They do not do this plan thing.

Oh wait…can all pregnancy issues be blamed on Obama…and BENGHAZI? Sounds like a plan.

83 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:35:56pm

re: #63 Lidane

Sure, that seems reasonable:

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Because of all the possible configurations that could lead to sexual assault inside a school, a transsexual in the bathroom is the one to worry about.

84 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:37:09pm

re: #74 dog philosopher

pointy haired boss

My hair does tend to develop Bozo-like waves if I let it get too long….

85 Ian G.  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:37:18pm

re: #37 Lidane

Meanwhile, the dudebros at Reason are upset:

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Never mind the fact that the Pope isn’t saying anything new. The Catholic Church has criticized unfettered capitalism for ages. Francis is just emphasizing that criticism over social issues as a matter of policy.

Let’s also note the false dichotomy that the Galtians are babbling about. It isn’t a choice between Galtian Paradise on one hand, and North Korea’s economy on the other. It’s a choice between Galtian Paradise, and decent rules and regulations and a social safety net to keep the worst impulses of Galtian Paradise from running roughshod over 99% of the people. THAT is what Pope Francis is criticizing.

But the puppet masters at reason want their absurdly low capital gains taxes maintained, so creating this false dichotomy will be done again and again at Reason, Forbes, and the other right-wing rags.

At least the Pope is finally on my side on some issues.

86 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:39:07pm
87 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:39:44pm

re: #81 RealityBasedSteve

I’ve done that before…. am promptly told that “Abstinence is the only thing that works 100% of the time”. I tell them they are correct as far as they go, but once they go too far, it’s 0% effective. They get a glazed look in their eyes and start muttering stuff about how if we don’t show them condoms they won’t want to have sex. It must be boring to live in such a simple primary colored 1 dimensional world

RBS
Who likes his world in various shades and shadings, with lots of angles and curves

However did the human race manage to reproduce before Sex Education came along to inspire teenagers to do what they otherwise would never in a million years have thought to do?
///

88 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:41:45pm


Could be goatoshopped, I don’t know.

89 kirkspencer  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:42:10pm

re: #57 Kragar

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No, they are not disputed abortifacients except among the people who think a fertilized cell is a human.

90 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:42:22pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

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Could be goatoshopped, I don’t know.

Goat eyes are creepy.

91 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:42:44pm

re: #89 kirkspencer

No, they are not disputed abortifacients except among the people who think a fertilized cell is a human.

I know that and you know that, but fuckwad? He doesn’t know that.

92 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:43:33pm

re: #78 GeneJockey

This is the advantage of having done Thanksgiving at least 25 times. I can do the grocery list from memory, and all the timing things are automatic. It was not always thus, of course.

EDIT: remembering that Pride Goeth Before A Fall, I should be careful not to boast. Karma’s a bitch.

Haha. I’m mostly just fumbling through this (today I will make the veggie dip and prep the cut veggies, and maybe the green beans for the lemon garlic green beans) as I go. Fortunately, part of me flagged the turkey to the fridge as “likely to be forgotten” and so wrote it down yesterday …which was good, because sure enough, I’d forgotten by the time I was reviewing my to do list today.

93 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:44:27pm

I just have to swing by the market for fresh veggies on the way home and we’re done for Thanksgiving.

94 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:44:39pm

re: #89 kirkspencer

No, they are not disputed abortifacients except among the people who think a fertilized cell is a human.

Actually, while it was originally thought that Plan B prevented implantation, they have discovered that it actually delays ovulation (if you already ovulated, it doesn’t work) so, no fertilization takes place.
The earlier, incorrect explanation is the one these folks go with, because they think the revised understanding is a lie.

95 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:44:40pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

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Could be goatoshopped, I don’t know.

Is that Pamela Gellers Christmas photo?

RBS

96 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:45:53pm
97 kirkspencer  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:45:55pm

re: #72 dr. klys

Extra bonus: when you write down reminders for doing the important things.

Like remembering to move the turkey from the freezer to the fridge. (They’re cutlets, I’m still in time.)

Thank you, me of yesterday, for having the forethought to write down a reminder. Because otherwise I would have totally forgot.

Because suddenly we’re having nobody but the three of us, I’m changing things up a lot. I’m braising the turkey now, and when it’s done I’ll slice it all up and pack it away - some to the refrigerator, some to the freezer. Things that’ll go bad are going to be cooked, or par-cooked, and/or frozen. Things that’ll keep for meals over the next few weeks are staying in storage.

Braising the turkey because while I truly like crisp skin, skin does not stay crisp through storage, and other than skin braising produces it’s own sort of wonderful cooked meat.

98 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:46:10pm

re: #93 Kragar

I just have to swing by the market for fresh veggies on the way home and we’re done for Thanksgiving.

The husband is responsible for picking up the olive bread either on his way to or from the job today.

Pretty sure he remembered that.

99 kirkspencer  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:46:34pm

re: #94 calochortus

Actually, while it was originally thought that Plan B prevented implantation, they have discovered that it actually delays ovulation (if you already ovulated, it doesn’t work) so, no fertilization takes place.
The earlier, incorrect explanation is the one these folks go with, because they think the revised understanding is a lie.

cool and even better.

100 gwangung  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:46:42pm

re: #94 calochortus

Actually, while it was originally thought that Plan B prevented implantation, they have discovered that it actually delays ovulation

So…basically a chemical rhythm method.

/whistles

101 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:46:43pm

re: #95 RealityBasedSteve

Is that Pamela Gellers Christmas photo?

RBS

That much hair would improve her visage, for sure.

102 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:47:15pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

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Could be goatoshopped, I don’t know.

Perfect timing! I just finished doing an oh-so-serious Page, so the LOL it caused was especially appreciated. ;o)

103 fizzlogic  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:47:36pm

re: #5 Charles Johnson

I really like it when wingnuts like Mike Huckabee make it perfectly clear that they do not give a single solitary shit about telling the truth.

It may have something to do with him being a Christian.

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:47:59pm
105 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:48:00pm

re: #100 gwangung

So…basically a chemical rhythm method.

Band name alert!

106 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:48:13pm

re: #95 RealityBasedSteve

Is that Pamela Gellers Christmas photo?

RBS

Why are you insulting the Goat? :-)

107 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:49:31pm

Of all the routes he could have taken, I didn’t expect this one:

108 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:49:45pm

re: #88 wrenchwench

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Could be goatoshopped, I don’t know.

That poor guy looks like he just got rear-ended.

109 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:49:59pm

re: #97 kirkspencer

Because suddenly we’re having nobody but the three of us, I’m changing things up a lot. I’m braising the turkey now, and when it’s done I’ll slice it all up and pack it away - some to the refrigerator, some to the freezer. Things that’ll go bad are going to be cooked, or par-cooked, and/or frozen. Things that’ll keep for meals over the next few weeks are staying in storage.

Braising the turkey because while I truly like crisp skin, skin does not stay crisp through storage, and other than skin braising produces it’s own sort of wonderful cooked meat.

I just have a friend coming over, so i’m doing a roasting chicken. Got it all splatcocked, rubbed with the dry brine mix, everything that can be pre-prepped is done, Should be an easy day tomorrow. Nothing too fancy, focus on just enjoying the day.

RBS

110 kirkspencer  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:51:24pm

re: #109 RealityBasedSteve

I just have a friend coming over, so i’m doing a roasting chicken. Got it all splatcocked, rubbed with the dry brine mix, everything that can be pre-prepped is done, Should be an easy day tomorrow. Nothing too fancy, focus on just enjoying the day.

RBS

Way I’d have done it, but we purchased and prepped based on 16-20.

111 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:52:15pm

re: #97 kirkspencer

Because suddenly we’re having nobody but the three of us, I’m changing things up a lot. I’m braising the turkey now, and when it’s done I’ll slice it all up and pack it away - some to the refrigerator, some to the freezer. Things that’ll go bad are going to be cooked, or par-cooked, and/or frozen. Things that’ll keep for meals over the next few weeks are staying in storage.

Braising the turkey because while I truly like crisp skin, skin does not stay crisp through storage, and other than skin braising produces it’s own sort of wonderful cooked meat.

I fortunately knew when planning that it was just the two of us so all my shopping has been that way. Hence turkey cutlets and a relatively small menu.

The Thanksgivings I remember growing up were always shared with another family of friends who also were too far away for getting together with relatives for the holiday. My first year of grad school I hosted an “orphan’s Thanksgiving” for a whole group of us who’d moved out to the West Coast that year and couldn’t afford to fly home for the holiday. I do miss some of that, but it’ll still be a wonderful holiday with just us.

112 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:53:31pm

re: #107 Kragar

Of all the routes he could have taken, I didn’t expect this one:

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Got yerself another one o’them fuckin morans.

113 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:53:31pm

re: #109 RealityBasedSteve

I just have a friend coming over, so i’m doing a roasting chicken. Got it all splatcocked, rubbed with the dry brine mix, everything that can be pre-prepped is done, Should be an easy day tomorrow. Nothing too fancy, focus on just enjoying the day.

RBS

I think that’s ‘Spatchcocked’. ‘Splatcocked’ makes me wince….
///

114 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:54:20pm

re: #104 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Unfortunately, I could see this “corporations have protected beliefs” thing being chased far beyond health care, and effectively becoming a back-end form of institutional discrimination.

115 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:54:38pm

re: #107 Kragar

Of all the routes he could have taken, I didn’t expect this one:

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These are the abstinence only crowd. They believe they understand human nature but ignore everything cognitive studies/research psychology tells us that contradicts their belief system.

116 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:54:57pm

I feel like such a Thanksgiving dinner heathen.
Menu here is a slow roasted chunk of beef, Yorkshire pud and Brussels sprouts.
Only nod to traditional dishes are homemade cranberry sauce and a sweet potato pie.

117 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:55:59pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

I feel like such a Thanksgiving dinner heathen.
Menu here is a slow roasted chunk of beef, Yorkshire pud and Brussels sprouts.
Only nod to traditional dishes are homemade cranberry sauce and a sweet potato pie.

Nothing wrong with that. My husband would enjoy the Brussels sprouts.

118 A Mom Anon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:56:28pm

re: #94 calochortus
OK, I may have harbored the wrong info for a lot of years, but doesn’t the actual BC pill prevent the egg from even being fertilized in the first place because the hormones suppress ovulation? I’ll admit to being ignorant about Plan B because I never heard of it til a few years ago when all this arguing about it started, but isn’t this twitterfool saying that all birth control pills cause an abortion? (I have heard that from some of the wingnuts around here before, just not sure about Tom the Twit)

119 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:57:27pm

His full statement across 2 tweets:

“Woman have survived hundreds of years without Plan B. It was released in the late 90’s. If they are that serious about not getting pregnant, it wouldn’t happen. I’m saying they can pay for it, not a very religious organization.”



Hobby Lobby, a religious organization.

120 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:57:47pm

Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked!

121 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:58:20pm

re: #120 Tim TeaBro

Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked!

Visions of genitalia and hammers dance in my head.

122 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:58:27pm

re: #120 Tim TeaBro

Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked! Splatcocked!

Sounds like a Femdom BDSM video.

Or so I’ve been told.

123 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:58:33pm

re: #119 Kragar

Hobby Lobby, a religious organization.

So Hobby Lobby is a religion now? Pfft.

124 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:59:13pm

re: #119 Kragar

His full statement across 2 tweets:

“Woman have survived hundreds of years without Plan B. It was released in the late 90’s. If they are that serious about not getting pregnant, it wouldn’t happen. I’m saying they can pay for it, not a very religious organization.”

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Hobby Lobby, a religious organization.

Do employees also have to tithe to the owners?

125 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:59:34pm

re: #118 A Mom Anon

OK, I may have harbored the wrong info for a lot of years, but doesn’t the actual BC pill prevent the egg from even being fertilized in the first place because the hormones suppress ovulation? I’ll admit to being ignorant about Plan B because I never heard of it til a few years ago when all this arguing about it started, but isn’t this twitterfool saying that all birth control pills cause an abortion? (I have heard that from some of the wingnuts around here before, just not sure about Tom the Twit)

It is supposed to prevent ovulation. It is not a 100% guarantee, though, so many of them also thicken mucus (to make it harder for the sperm to get in) and thin the lining of the uterus (which has the side effect of making it less hospitable to a fertilized egg - and the added bonus of generally lighter periods). There’s no way to tell which method is preventing pregnancy at any given point, unless a woman is being monitored to determine whether or not she has actually ovulated.

126 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 12:59:50pm

I was thinking more of a newer Messy Chicken with Goo recipe.

Dirty minds!

127 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:01:27pm

re: #119 Kragar

His full statement across 2 tweets:

“Woman have survived hundreds of years without Plan B. It was released in the late 90’s. If they are that serious about not getting pregnant, it wouldn’t happen. I’m saying they can pay for it, not a very religious organization.”

[Embedded content]


Hobby Lobby, a religious organization.

Churches are businesses too!!!

128 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:03:11pm

re: #118 A Mom Anon

OK, I may have harbored the wrong info for a lot of years, but doesn’t the actual BC pill prevent the egg from even being fertilized in the first place because the hormones suppress ovulation? I’ll admit to being ignorant about Plan B because I never heard of it til a few years ago when all this arguing about it started, but isn’t this twitterfool saying that all birth control pills cause an abortion? (I have heard that from some of the wingnuts around here before, just not sure about Tom the Twit)

In a word, yes. I think it is possible, but very unlikely that one might ovulate, in which case, IIRC (this hasn’t been personally relevant for a while), the uterine wall is also rendered less hospitable for implantation. Of course, without implantation there is no actual pregnancy, so no abortion either, but in wingnut-speech, fertilization=pregnancy.

129 A Mom Anon  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:03:57pm

re: #125 dr. klys
OK, that’s what I thought. Where in the hell did these morons get the idea that it causes spontaneous abortions then? Oh never mind, Jesus told them, I forgot.

You know, if a guy is going to mansplain and broviate about this topic, then he HAS to have a basic understanding of female anatomy(beyond porn) and also understand how the medication in question actually works. Until then, STFU BOYS.

130 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:04:16pm

re: #113 GeneJockey

I think that’s ‘Spatchcocked’. ‘Splatcocked’ makes me wince….
///

Genejockey, you are, of course, correct. My typo. But on the other hand it did lead to yet another bizarre direction for thread to wander down for a few postings. (What is this thread about anyhow? Some fattened bird that needs to be roasted and stuffed for the good of us all? Oh, Hucabee??? same thing)

RBS

131 Ming  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:05:37pm

re: #37 Lidane

Meanwhile, the dudebros at Reason are upset…

I started a print subscription to Reason Magazine in 1977. No doubt I missed a few things, but in those years, I thought of them as thoroughly reasonable journalists, even when I didn’t agree with a particular position they had.

In recent years, I’ve been stunned to see reason.com devolve, if only partly, into an i-hate-obama mindset. I still think that a few of their articles are worthwhile. But when they mention President Obama, they almost always sound just plain crazy.

132 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:05:59pm

re: #103 fizzlogic

WTF? I don’t like fundies of any stripe, so I understand disliking & insulting Huckabee, but attributing his dishonesty to being Christian is really shitty.

133 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:06:04pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

OK, that’s what I thought. Where in the hell did these morons get the idea that it causes spontaneous abortions then? Oh never mind, Jesus told them, I forgot.

You know, if a guy is going to mansplain and broviate about this topic, then he HAS to have a basic understanding of female anatomy(beyond porn) and also understand how the medication in question actually works. Until then, STFU BOYS.

Well, if they think that an egg being fertilized = a baby, then preventing the egg from implanting is causing an abortion.

…that pretty much sums it up right there.

134 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:06:58pm

Please excuse me for a while. I need to go put our 14# heritage breed, free range turkey in to brine overnight.
Did I mention I live in the Bay Area and am an elitist? ;)

135 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:07:15pm

re: #123 Lidane

So Hobby Lobby is a religion now? Pfft.

A religion of plastic flowers poked into a green styrofoam cube and plopped into a wicker basket painted gold.

136 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:08:11pm

re: #133 dr. klys

Well, if they think that an egg being fertilized = a baby, then preventing the egg from implanting is causing an abortion.

…that pretty much sums it up right there.

Actually, I think they believe every egg is sacred and = a baby. Isn’t that what they are blathering about all those dead fetus thingies that we are somehow storing in our ladyparts?

137 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:09:02pm

re: #48 Feline Fearless Leader

Good afternoon Lizards. Today summed up in two pictures.

Breakfast

Image: Car_under_snow.jpg

go back in and eat the other half of the pie before attempting to do anything with the snow

138 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:10:13pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, I think they believe every egg is sacred and = a baby. Isn’t that what they are blathering about all those dead fetus thingies that we are somehow storing in our ladyparts?

As long as the dead fetus thingies stay that way and don’t try to inflict a live baby on me.

//

I don’t understand how to talk rationally to these people because they aren’t being rational. Period. The only religious exemption they seem to care about is the one that lets them deprive women of the right to control their own bodies. And it’s bullying for me to say fuck that shit.

139 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:10:57pm

re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth

I feel like such a Thanksgiving dinner heathen.
Menu here is a slow roasted chunk of beef, Yorkshire pud and Brussels sprouts.
Only nod to traditional dishes are homemade cranberry sauce and a sweet potato pie.

I’m stuck doing the whole thing - Turkey, Stuffing, Mashed P, and Punkin Pies. I can’t even do anything else for Christmas dinner. When Mrs. Jockey’s father started giving us a Honeybaked Ham for Christmas, I discovered that I also had to make Stuffing and Mashed P, and roast a turkey breast, or hear how I’d Ruined Christmas Forever.

Mom and Dad used to grow Brussels Sprouts, so I grew up eating them, and I like them, at least in part because I know how to cook ‘em without them turning bitter and sulfurous. I tried making them for Mrs. Jockey ONCE. I gave them every chance - chose small ones, blanched them JUST to doneness, then tossed them into hot olive oil with garlic, and topped them with freshly grated Parmegiano Reggiano and freshly ground black pepper.

She said they were the best Brussel Sprouts she’d ever had, but if I never made them ever for the rest of her life, she’d be happier.

140 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:11:03pm

re: #135 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

A religion of plastic flowers poked into a green styrofoam cube and plopped into a wicker basket painted gold.

I have to confess to using Hobby Lobby because they are the only place in town where I can buy large bottles of various thicknesses of Super-Glue and accelerator for it. (I use a lot of in in making pens and other things) I don’t claim to have any real sense for interior design and decoration, but I look at the stuff there and go “No WAY, No HOW, NOT EVER is any of that going on my walls / tables / shelves”.

RBS
Who lived in his place for 4 months before he realized that the furniture didn’t HAVE to stay where the movers put it.

141 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:13:20pm

re: #137 dog philosopher

go back in and eat the other half of the pie before attempting to do anything with the snow

I’d eat the rest of the pie, then take a nap… maybe the snow will magically go away, or perhaps there will magically be more pie.

RBS

142 b_sharp  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:13:23pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, I think they believe every egg is sacred and = a baby. Isn’t that what they are blathering about all those dead fetus thingies that we are somehow storing in our ladyparts?

They still ascribe to the homunculus theory of the 14th century.

143 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:13:27pm

re: #134 calochortus

Please excuse me for a while. I need to go put our 14# heritage breed, free range turkey in to brine overnight.
Did I mention I live in the Bay Area and am an elitist? ;)

I go for the best natural, reasonably priced bird I can get, but as far as my family’s concerned, its primary purpose is to provide gravy and to flavor the stuffing. The meat just is a lucky byproduct.

144 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:16:13pm

Glenn Greenwald Become a fan

Ryan Gallagher Become a fan

Ryan Grim Become a fan

ryan@huffingtonpost.com
Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part Of Plan To Discredit ‘Radicalizers’

145 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:16:27pm

re: #103 fizzlogic

Torque!
er…
Taiyuan?
Taqiyya?

No, no, definitely torque.

146 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:17:16pm

re: #144 Tim TeaBro

Glenn Greenwald Become a fan

Ryan Gallagher Become a fan

Ryan Grim Become a fan

ryan@huffingtonpost.com
Top-Secret Document Reveals NSA Spied On Porn Habits As Part Of Plan To Discredit ‘Radicalizers’

Glenn Greenwald-A became a fan.
Glenn Greenwald-B became a fan.

147 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:17:55pm
148 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:18:13pm

Moment of magic…

149 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:18:20pm

re: #130 RealityBasedSteve

Genejockey, you are, of course, correct. My typo. But on the other hand it did lead to yet another bizarre direction for thread to wander down for a few postings. (What is this thread about anyhow? Some fattened bird that needs to be roasted and stuffed for the good of us all? Oh, Hucabee??? same thing)

RBS

I usually try not to be one of those irritating know-it-alls who corrects everyone (That would be my brother Bob), but sometimes a typo just puts a thought or image in my mind that compels me to share. ‘Splatcocked’ was such a typo. Made my knees involuntarily rise up to protect the jewels!
///

150 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:18:21pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

I know, thought it wazza kinna funny.

151 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:19:09pm

re: #150 Tim TeaBro

I know, thought it wazza kinna funny.

It is.
Especially how blatant it all is.
XD

152 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:19:11pm

Don’t laugh, but my son brought over a 17-1/2 lb turkey to cook for xmas.

I put it in the freezer. I’ll be tired of turkey by New Years.

153 gwangung  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:20:57pm

re: #107 Kragar

Of all the routes he could have taken, I didn’t expect this one:

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Idiot.

They ARE paying for it. Out of their wages.

154 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:22:24pm

re: #129 A Mom Anon

OK, that’s what I thought. Where in the hell did these morons get the idea that it causes spontaneous abortions then? Oh never mind, Jesus told them, I forgot.

You know, if a guy is going to mansplain and broviate about this topic, then he HAS to have a basic understanding of female anatomy(beyond porn) and also understand how the medication in question actually works. Until then, STFU BOYS.

You know, it really is worse than that. Apparently a lot of guys do not know how a human body works, theirs or anyone’s. All systems rely on other systems and if one is affected others start to be affected. If one gland goes out of whack, look what it can do to others. Same with body chemistry. Hormonal balance is key to men too. They seem to know enough to bitch about women’s “hormonal rage” during a portion of a month. So, why can’t they apply how controlling that whole system has it’s reasons beyond pregnancy?

Maybe what would be the key is to explain it all like a mechanical system with a cad cam drawing and 3d rendering. But unlike humans and other animals, mechanical systems have no birthing systems. We just crank out replicas. Never mind. Will not compute.

/// going to hell, I know it.

155 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:22:35pm

Love it when Christian Ministers lie and/or endorse liars.

Yep, a real WWJD moment. Something we want our children to emulate.

/:(

156 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:23:46pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

You know, it really is worse than that. Apparently a lot of guys do not know how a human body works, theirs or anyone’s. All systems rely on other systems and if one is affected others start to be affected. If one gland goes out of whack, look what it can do to others. Same with body chemistry. Hormonal balance is key to men too. They seem to know enough to bitch about women’s “hormonal rage” during a portion of a month. So, why can’t they apply how controlling that whole system has it’s reasons beyond pregnancy?

Maybe what would be the key is to explain it all like a mechanical system with a cad cam drawing and 3d rendering. But unlike humans and other animals, mechanical systems have no birthing systems. We just crank out replicas. Never mind. Will not compute.

/// going to hell, I know it.

“Every sperm is sacred.”

157 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:24:00pm

re: #140 RealityBasedSteve

Who lived in his place for 4 months before he realized that the furniture didn’t HAVE to stay where the movers put it.

I have a bunch of framed pictures and prints stacked against various walls, because I’m going to hang them any minute now. They’ve been sitting untouched since I moved in. In March.

158 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:24:05pm

re: #155 FemNaziBitch

Love it when Christian Ministers lie and/or endorse liars.

Yep, a real WWJD moment. Something we want our children to emulate.

/:(

You just don’t have the secret decoder ring that unlocks the Gospel of Capitalist Gay-Hatin’ Manly Jesus.

159 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:24:28pm

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

Don’t laugh, but my son brought over a 17-1/2 lb turkey to cook for xmas.

I put it in the freezer. I’ll be tired of turkey by New Years.

Do what we do with the left overs. Put some aside for sandwiches and make Turkey Noodle Soup out of the rest. If it’s a ham, same thing except you make ham and bean soup. Both good on a cold winter day.

160 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:24:54pm

re: #140 RealityBasedSteve

I have to confess to using Hobby Lobby because they are the only place in town where I can buy large bottles of various thicknesses of Super-Glue and accelerator for it. (I use a lot of in in making pens and other things) I don’t claim to have any real sense for interior design and decoration, but I look at the stuff there and go “No WAY, No HOW, NOT EVER is any of that going on my walls / tables / shelves”.

RBS
Who lived in his place for 4 months before he realized that the furniture didn’t HAVE to stay where the movers put it.

AMAZON.COM or google another source. Please don’t shop at Hobby Lobby.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:25:02pm

re: #154 ObserverArt

/// going to hell, I know it.

All the very best, fun and interesting people will be there!
/

162 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:25:35pm

re: #147 Kragar

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I mean, that’s totally why guys are not having sex all over the place! They think so much about the consequences!

/////

163 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:25:52pm

re: #136 Backwoods_Sleuth

Actually, I think they believe every egg is sacred and = a baby. Isn’t that what they are blathering about all those dead fetus thingies that we are somehow storing in our ladyparts?

Two things come to mind. First, I think they believe that a fertilized ovum > a baby, because they don’t seem to give a crap about them once born. Cut WIC? Cut SNAP? Cut TANF? Of course! If their parents can’t provide for them, they shouldn’t have had them!

But BEFORE birth, no sacrifice (made by someone else) is too great, up to and including the life of the mother.

The other thing is that whole ‘dead fetuses in your ladyparts’ thing is as bizarre as the whole “I had a hamburger I ate in 1984 in my colon!” thing that you hear from enema fans. Both of them suggest a complete lack of understanding about how the body works.

164 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:26:01pm

I love the “Don’t have sex if you don’t want to deal with the consequences” in regards to married couples seeking birth control and abortion care.

165 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:26:24pm

re: #157 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

I have a bunch of framed pictures and prints stacked against various walls, because I’m going to hang them any minute now. They’ve been sitting untouched since I moved in. In March.

I’ve got stuff still in boxes from two moves ago.
That stuff is older than some of the lizards here…

166 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:27:08pm

re: #134 calochortus

Please excuse me for a while. I need to go put our 14# heritage breed, free range turkey in to brine overnight.
Did I mention I live in the Bay Area and am an elitist? ;)

Can’t tell until you let us know what wine you are serving with that highfalutin bird!

167 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:27:38pm

re: #164 Kragar

I love the “Don’t have sex if you don’t want to deal with the consequences” in regards to married couples seeking birth control and abortion care.

I guess they’re advocating sodomy, then?

168 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:14pm

re: #167 dr. klys

I guess they’re advocating sodomy, then?

Works for me.

169 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:16pm

re: #167 dr. klys

I guess they’re advocating sodomy, then?

No.
Separate beds.

170 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:28pm

re: #164 Kragar

I love the “Don’t have sex if you don’t want to deal with the consequences” in regards to married couples seeking birth control and abortion care.

The RWNJs want everyone else to have the same sexless, dull relationships that they do.

Thanks, but no. That’s why birth control exists. I don’t want kids and I’ve never taken a vow of celibacy, so yeah. Birth control it is.

171 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:32pm

re: #169 Varek Raith

No.
Separate beds.

Fuck that, he produces warmth!

172 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:41pm

re: #156 FemNaziBitch

“Every sperm is sacred.”

173 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:28:52pm

re: #167 dr. klys

I guess they’re advocating sodomy, then?

Saddlebacking for everybody!

174 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:29:53pm

re: #164 Kragar

I love the “Don’t have sex if you don’t want to deal with the consequences” in regards to married couples seeking birth control and abortion care.

perhaps they could ask god why he made humans so sexual

175 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:30:16pm

re: #174 dog philosopher

perhaps they could ask god why he made humans so sexual

ITS THE DEVIL!

176 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:30:24pm

re: #139 GeneJockey

I’m stuck doing the whole thing - Turkey, Stuffing, Mashed P, and Punkin Pies. I can’t even do anything else for Christmas dinner. When Mrs. Jockey’s father started giving us a Honeybaked Ham for Christmas, I discovered that I also had to make Stuffing and Mashed P, and roast a turkey breast, or hear how I’d Ruined Christmas Forever.

…snip

Punkin Pies would make a great little band name. They could use whip cream as a prop.

177 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:31:14pm

If sex is for procreation only, I expect all of these men arguing for religious exemptions for birth control stopped having sex with their wives as soon as they hit menopause.

178 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:31:18pm

dammit…

Two Inglewood police officers shot; active shooter in area

latimes.com

179 dog philosopher  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:32:12pm

birth control

i also practice gravity control

personally, my approach is to deal with physics and biology realistically rather than deny their existence

180 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:32:26pm

re: #159 Bubblehead II

Do what we do with the left overs. Put some aside for sandwiches and make Turkey Noodle Soup out of the rest. If it’s a ham, same thing except you make ham and bean soup. Both good on a cold winter day.

Well, see, that’s the thing: I use it up—turkey sandwiches, turkey pot pie, turkey soup, creamed turkey, blah, blah, blah.

You can take the carcass and get a lot of stuff from it (usually the basis for the soup).

181 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:32:41pm

re: #134 calochortus

Please excuse me for a while. I need to go put our 14# heritage breed, free range turkey in to brine overnight.
Did I mention I live in the Bay Area and am an elitist? ;)

Don’t forget to splat/spatchcock it. Oven to table in 1:45.

182 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:32:54pm

re: #177 dr. klys

If sex is for procreation only, I expect all of these men arguing for religious exemptions for birth control stopped having sex with their wives as soon as they hit menopause.

Erectile dysfunction is God’s way of saying “Stop having sex”, so Viagra is the devil.

183 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:33:03pm

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

Well, see, that’s the thing: I use it up—turkey sandwiches, turkey pot pie, turkey soup, creamed turkey, blah, blah, blah.

You can take the carcass and get a lot of stuff from it (usually the basis for the soup).

Turn it into a robotic killing machine.

184 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:34:33pm

re: #182 Kragar

Erectile dysfunction is God’s way of saying “Stop having sex”, so Viagra is the devil.

Sex is apparently a required thing for males (because we cover the meds that allow them to deal with things like that) but women just need to suck it up and play Russian Roulette: Baby version.

185 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:35:27pm

re: #163 GeneJockey

Two things come to mind. First, I think they believe that a fertilized ovum > a baby, because they don’t seem to give a crap about them once born. Cut WIC? Cut SNAP? Cut TANF? Of course! If their parents can’t provide for them, they shouldn’t have had them!

But BEFORE birth, no sacrifice (made by someone else) is too great, up to and including the life of the mother.

Two not-secret secrets:

1. Living people matter less than souls. Once you’re viable outside the womb, suffering exists to lead you to Christ. Not having government support means you have to rely on charity, and a lot of charity is religious charity that comes with a side-order of proselytizing.

2. Helping single mothers care for their kids is never the plan. Oh sure, they want sluts to find Jesus, but not to keep their babies…and pregnancy crisis centers and other aid organizations they support are all about tricking or coercing put their kids up for adoption through a private (Christian, for profit) adoption agency.

186 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:36:45pm

The wrath of an abused and bullied child.

I had no idea.

Also Paged.

187 ausador  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:37:38pm

re: #152 Justanotherhuman

Don’t laugh, but my son brought over a 17-1/2 lb turkey to cook for xmas.

I put it in the freezer. I’ll be tired of turkey by New Years.

I always buy a bigger turkey than I actually need, I want leftovers because I love turkey sandwiches (either open faced with gravy or “normal” with mayonnaise and ketchup). Besides, once I strip off most all of the “sandwich usable” meat I can boil the carcass down for stock or to make turkey vegetable or turkey noodle soup with.

(The cat will gladly eat some leftover bits too) ;)

188 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:38:10pm

re: #159 Bubblehead II

Do what we do with the left overs. Put some aside for sandwiches and make Turkey Noodle Soup out of the rest. If it’s a ham, same thing except you make ham and bean soup. Both good on a cold winter day.

The carcass goes into the stock pot on Friday, and the leftover meat, plus a couple pounds of Andouille or Kielbasa, plus the stock, the Trinity, and a dark roux all become Gumbo on Saturday.

189 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:38:48pm

“We’re not trying to control anyone, but we have strict guidelines about what appropriate sexual conduct is and we’ll withhold support from anyone who does not comply with them.”

190 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:40:22pm

re: #184 dr. klys

Sex is apparently a required thing for males (because we cover the meds that allow them to deal with things like that) but women just need to suck it up and play Russian Roulette: Baby version.

Men are only involved as leverage to prevent abortion or make it more difficult, as in, “Why doesn’t the father get a say in it?”

Answer: He can have a say when he can take over gestation.

191 wrenchwench  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:40:37pm

re: #184 dr. klys

Sex is apparently a required thing for males (because we cover the meds that allow them to deal with things like that) but women just need to suck it up and play Russian Roulette: Baby version.

: X

192 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:42:07pm

re: #188 GeneJockey

The carcass goes into the stock pot on Friday, and the leftover meat, plus a couple pounds of Andouille or Kielbasa, plus the stock, the Trinity, and a dark roux all become Gumbo on Saturday.

You sound much like one of my ex’s. Great cajun cook, I learned a lot of great things from her, she never did share her gumbo recipe with me however. I cheat however and make my dark roux in the oven rather than the stove top.

It was from her I first heard the line… Ok, I’ve got the rice cooking, now what to fix for dinner?

RBS

193 Bubblehead II  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:42:39pm

re: #180 Justanotherhuman

Well, see, that’s the thing: I use it up—turkey sandwiches, turkey pot pie, turkey soup, creamed turkey, blah, blah, blah.

You can take the carcass and get a lot of stuff from it (usually the basis for the soup).

We just do the soup(s) and sandwich rout. After stripping as much off the carcass as we can, we toss it it a stock pot and boil it until it is clean, strain the stock to get the small bones out and then finish up the soup. Put some in quart jars to give to friends and family, freeze the rest to reheat at a later time. Nothing gets wasted if it can be helped.

194 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:42:53pm

re: #191 wrenchwench

: X

I mean, I can’t come to any other conclusions from the statements that people are making in favor of restricting access to birth control. “No sex if you’re not ready for the consequences!” Well, get back to me when a) the guy shares in the consequences (and not just in the legal sense now that women can finally use the courts to hold a guy accountable for his share) and b) the stigma attached to having had multiple sexual partners becomes the same between men and women.

195 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:43:05pm

re: #176 ObserverArt

Punkin Pies would make a great little band name. They could use whip cream as a prop.

Smashing Pumpkins is a better name.

196 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:43:24pm

re: #188 GeneJockey

The carcass goes into the stock pot on Friday, and the leftover meat, plus a couple pounds of Andouille or Kielbasa, plus the stock, the Trinity, and a dark roux all become Gumbo on Saturday.

Ho brah! Splatchcock Gumbo!

197 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:44:55pm

re: #194 dr. klys

My kingdom for the ability to give multiple updings.

198 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:45:20pm

re: #194 dr. klys

I mean, I can’t come to any other conclusions from the statements that people are making in favor of restricting access to birth control. “No sex if you’re not ready for the consequences!” Well, get back to me when a) the guy shares in the consequences (and not just in the legal sense now that women can finally use the courts to hold a guy accountable for his share) and b) the stigma attached to having had multiple sexual partners becomes the same between men and women.

Well in that case, lets make sure that we don’t pay for antibiotics for any guy that catches an STD. Make sure that people who ride motorcycles are forced to pay for any injuries they encounter, since they would have been safer to ride in a car.

RBS

199 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:45:53pm

re: #197 Lidane

My kingdom for the ability to give multiple updings.

Women don’t have kingdoms —we have empires.

Catherine the Great, Elizabeth I, Dowager Empress … . .

200 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:46:10pm

re: #192 RealityBasedSteve

You sound much like one of my ex’s. Great cajun cook, I learned a lot of great things from her, she never did share her gumbo recipe with me however. I cheat however and make my dark roux in the oven rather than the stove top.

RBS

I use the Paul Prudhomme ‘Cajun Napalm’ method, where you heat the oil till it smokes, add the flour and cook over a really high heat whisking like mad until you get too scared, then dump in half the chopped Trinity and garlic.

Seriously, I stop it when I start being afraid it’s going to ignite.

201 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:47:22pm

re: #200 GeneJockey

I use the Paul Prudhomme ‘Cajun Napalm’ method, where you heat the oil till it smokes, add the flour and cook over a really high heat whisking like mad until you get too scared, then dump in half the chopped Trinity and garlic.

Seriously, I stop it when I start being afraid it’s going to ignite.

If I used that cooking method, I would be mixing the oil and flour on the countertop after letting it look at the stove.

///

202 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:47:37pm

The nice thing about the personal responsibility argument is it removes the man from any and puts it entirely on the woman.

Coincidence?

203 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:47:40pm

Pro lifers always argue women need to stop having sex.

How about all males be locked into chastity, where only their mothers and later their wife has the key?

Problem solved guys. No more sluts!

204 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:47:55pm

FedEx just delivered “History of Illuminated Manuscripts”.
LOVE IT!

I may be distracted for a while…

205 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:49:04pm

re: #192 RealityBasedSteve

You sound much like one of my ex’s. Great cajun cook, I learned a lot of great things from her, she never did share her gumbo recipe with me however. I cheat however and make my dark roux in the oven rather than the stove top.

It was from her I first heard the line… Ok, I’ve got the rice cooking, now what to fix for dinner?

RBS

I have my eye on that andouille to put into some nice jambalaya. I used to make that, but for dietary reason, I’ve cut out sausages. I could do it with just chicken, but just not the same. I really miss a nice hot Italian sausage for either a bun or in some spaghetti sauce too.

I’m gonna go cry now.

:Sausage sniffle:

206 CuriousLurker  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:49:52pm

re: #132 CuriousLurker

WTF? I don’t like fundies of any stripe, so I understand disliking & insulting Huckabee, but attributing his dishonesty to being Christian is really shitty.

So it seems that The Dude Abides is pro-bigotry? Why else would he upding fizzlogic’s #103? I just don’t get hateful people.

207 Amory Blaine  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:50:58pm

An argument I’ve seen going around the right is the dismissive way birth control pills are being compared to condoms (Why should I pay for BC pills and not condoms). I would like to see this fleshed out because condoms should be available. They prevent disease and pregnancy making it most definitely a health care issue.

208 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:51:04pm

re: #200 GeneJockey

I use the Paul Prudhomme ‘Cajun Napalm’ method, where you heat the oil till it smokes, add the flour and cook over a really high heat whisking like mad until you get too scared, then dump in half the chopped Trinity and garlic.

Seriously, I stop it when I start being afraid it’s going to ignite.

Hum…. I’ve got his “Fork in the Road” cookbook. Not so much cajun oriented, but it’s got a lot of good ideas for getting a lot of flavor layers out with low fat techniques. I’ll have to look into that ‘cajun napalm’ approach however.

RBS

209 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:51:12pm

re: #203 Kragar

Pro lifers always argue women need to stop having sex.

How about all males be locked into chastity, where only their mothers and later their wife has the key?

Problem solved guys. No more sluts!

Seriously. Want to combat the problem of unintended pregnancy? Lock a man’s bits into a chastity cage and give teh wimminz the key. Tell him he’s only getting laid if he’s prepared for ALL the consequences.

Birth control will become freely accessible real quick after that.

210 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:51:46pm

re: #198 RealityBasedSteve

Well in that case, lets make sure that we don’t pay for antibiotics for any guy that catches an STD. Make sure that people who ride motorcycles are forced to pay for any injuries they encounter, since they would have been safer to ride in a car.

RBS

Apparently the consequences of sex are always only ever on the woman.

ALWAYS.

And it pisses me off. A lot. I know how much pressure people can feel to “put out” in a relationship. And really, either choice should be acceptable. Sex is not an evil thing. But to pretend there’s no pressure, that people are all capable of making rational decisions about this, that’s bullshit.

211 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:51:53pm

re: #198 RealityBasedSteve

Well in that case, lets make sure that we don’t pay for antibiotics for any guy that catches an STD. Make sure that people who ride motorcycles are forced to pay for any injuries they encounter, since they would have been safer to ride in a car.

RBS

Interestingly, I saw a wingnut whining that Obamacare would pay for STD screening and antibiotics for sex workers (his terminology was more derogatory), and that this was a Bad Thing.

No thought of the public health consequences of untreated STDs in sex workers, either. Presumably any woman whose husband gets infected and brings it home had it coming

212 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:52:03pm

re: #143 GeneJockey

I go for the best natural, reasonably priced bird I can get, but as far as my family’s concerned, its primary purpose is to provide gravy and to flavor the stuffing. The meat just is a lucky byproduct.

My family loves dark meat (except for me, so more white meat for me!) and we all think it is more flavorful than the standard bird. Expensive? Yeah, but it’s only once a year, so what the heck.

213 Lidane  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:52:32pm
214 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:53:11pm

re: #195 FemNaziBitch

Smashing Pumpkins is a better name.

Yeah, but if the music is damn good and they do a real trashy punk ‘n’ roll, it could work.

By the way, I love Gish and Siamese Dream. Beautiful noise.

215 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:53:37pm

friend just texted, asked if I was home and had a gas can.

hmmm …

216 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:54:03pm

re: #166 ObserverArt

Can’t tell until you let us know what wine you are serving with that highfalutin bird!

I can’t tell you because my brother brings the wine. I can guarantee you that it will be very good, but probably not particularly expensive.

217 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:54:15pm

re: #211 GeneJockey

Interestingly, I saw a wingnut whining that Obamacare would pay for STD screening and antibiotics for sex workers (his terminology was more derogatory), and that this was a Bad Thing.

No thought of the public health consequences of untreated STDs in sex workers, either. Presumably any woman whose husband gets infected and brings it home had it coming

Those who complain the loudest … …

218 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:27pm

re: #204 Backwoods_Sleuth

FedEx just delivered “History of Illuminated Manuscripts”.
LOVE IT!

I may be distracted for a while…

It’s VERY, VERY interesting.

219 austin_blue  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:33pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

I have my eye on that andouille to put into some nice jambalaya. I used to make that, but for dietary reason, I’ve cut out sausages. I could do it with just chicken, but just not the same. I really miss a nice hot Italian sausage for either a bun or in some spaghetti sauce too.

I’m gonna go cry now.

:Sausage sniffle:

Andouille is nice, but one of the go-to cajun secret ingredients, tasso, is harder to find. Fortunately, I’ve got a pipeline here in Austin.

And thank you, Central Market. You guys kick the shit out of Whole Paycheck!

220 Tim TeaBro  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:36pm

re: #213 Lidane

That’s really cool.

221 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:40pm

re: #194 dr. klys

I mean, I can’t come to any other conclusions from the statements that people are making in favor of restricting access to birth control. “No sex if you’re not ready for the consequences!” Well, get back to me when a) the guy shares in the consequences (and not just in the legal sense now that women can finally use the courts to hold a guy accountable for his share) and b) the stigma attached to having had multiple sexual partners becomes the same between men and women.

Sometime when a mythical religious-themed eternal place to send souls starts to ice up. Gonna be a long time.

222 Kragar  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:46pm

Ah lovely, I knew this was lurking in the back ground;

223 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:55:59pm

re: #208 RealityBasedSteve

Hum…. I’ve got his “Fork in the Road” cookbook. Not so much cajun oriented, but it’s got a lot of good ideas for getting a lot of flavor layers out with low fat techniques. I’ll have to look into that ‘cajun napalm’ approach however.

RBS

It’s in his first, pre-healthy cookbook from way back in the early 80s, during the Cajun Craze. Lord, the BUTTER in those recipes!!! Like Paula Deen on steroids.

BTW, I always let the Gumbo sit off the heat long enough to stop bubbling, then degrease it. His roux method uses 1:1 volume:volume flour to oil, and you make about 2 cups of roux for a gallon of Gumbo.

224 Varek Raith  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:56:17pm

re: #213 Lidane

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FFS, they’re Sikh.

225 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:56:26pm

re: #222 Kragar

Ah lovely, I knew this was lurking in the back ground;

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Survey says: libertarian dudebro!

226 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:56:53pm

re: #207 Amory Blaine

An argument I’ve seen going around the right is the dismissive way birth control pills are being compared to condoms (Why should I pay for BC pills and not condoms). I would like to see this fleshed out because condoms should be available. They prevent disease and pregnancy making it most definitely a health care issue.

If one is not in a monogamous committed relationship, both BC and Condoms should always be used, IMHO.

227 ausador  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 1:58:24pm

re: #192 RealityBasedSteve

It was from her I first heard the line… Ok, I’ve got the rice cooking, now what to fix for dinner?

I’m not that bad but rice is just so easy to add practically anything to that it does make for almost effortless dishes when you don’t really feel like “cooking.”

Just plain old white rice, browned hamburger, and some “spice rack seasoned” black beans can make a pretty tasty and fairly healthy dinner. (a little sea salt and a dribble of white or red wine vinegar into your bowl after serving adds a nice kick to it)

228 GeneJockey  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:01:29pm

re: #205 ObserverArt

I have my eye on that andouille to put into some nice jambalaya. I used to make that, but for dietary reason, I’ve cut out sausages. I could do it with just chicken, but just not the same. I really miss a nice hot Italian sausage for either a bun or in some spaghetti sauce too.

I’m gonna go cry now.

:Sausage sniffle:

Chicken/turkey alternatives?

229 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:04:15pm

re: #216 calochortus

I can’t tell you because my brother brings the wine. I can guarantee you that it will be very good, but probably not particularly expensive.

I figured it would be good if you are out in the bay area. Lots of good wine up the road.

230 calochortus  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:09:49pm

re: #229 ObserverArt

I figured it would be good if you are out in the bay area. Lots of good wine up the road.

And my brother has a real interest in it, hence we get some “interesting” experiments from time to time, but generally really good stuff from him.

231 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:11:15pm

re: #228 GeneJockey

Chicken/turkey alternatives?

I use turkey Polski sausage all the time. It’s what was for dinner—with baked beans, cole slaw and cornbread muffins.

The turkey alternatives are pretty damned good these days (I use the Butterball ones) and not expensive. About $7 for the entire dinner and we have leftovers.

We eat lots of turkey, and chicken, in various forms. I never eat red meat or pork. No mammals of any kind.

232 Dave In Austin  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:16:26pm

3 of us tomorrow… Cornish game hens and the fixins. Wife is making pies now.

233 ObserverArt  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:22:03pm

re: #228 GeneJockey

Chicken/turkey alternatives?

I’ve tried some, but I just haven’t found any that really hit the spot. I’m open for suggestions.

I do like the Kroger brand little turkey pepperonis. Especially when crisped on one of my homemade pizzas. I’ve found some good vegie-based provolone and use Romano/Parmesan dried cheese that helps control the cheese content. I usually have a lot of red onion, green pepper and tomato pieces under the cheese in the sauce to help cook…with the little peps up top. I don’t make them often….but damn it, they can’t take ALL the pizzas away from me!

234 klys  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 2:30:28pm

re: #233 ObserverArt

I’ve tried some, but I just haven’t found any that really hit the spot. I’m open for suggestions.

I do like the Kroger brand little turkey pepperonis. Especially when crisped on one of my homemade pizzas. I’ve found some good vegie-based provolone and use Romano/Parmesan dried cheese that helps control the cheese content. I usually have a lot of red onion, green pepper and tomato pieces under the cheese in the sauce to help cook…with the little peps up top. I don’t make them often….but damn it, they can’t take ALL the pizzas away from me!

I don’t know how well it would work for things like gumbo (or how easy it’ll be to find) but I use Iserno’s chicken italian sausage (a bulk tube) for making a variation on cassoulet and that’s been really tasty.

235 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 4:00:50pm

Huckabee is another socon clown, but without a dreadful radio show, maybe he can do commercials for Chic-fil-a?

Talk radio is dying a well deserved death.

236 The Dude Abides  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 4:32:00pm

re: #206 CuriousLurker

Christian = fundy in Huckabee’s case. I’m only “hateful” towards those who deserve it.

237 Tigger2005  Wed, Nov 27, 2013 5:48:44pm

What we really need is some counter-political theater. Have Joe Biden or even Obama himself just waiting in the wings when Huck or some other right wingbag expectorates “we still don’t know what happened, we were lied to.” Suddenly Biden strolls out and says, “OK, let’s clear the air right now!” and aides set out a card table and chairs and tall glasses of lemonade. Biden sits down with a pad of paper, rolls up his sleeves and invites Huck to join him at the table. “OK Huck, let’s write down everything we can agree we know about Benghazi.” With that done (on a couple dozen pages) Biden says, “Now, Huck, what else do you want to know?”


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