Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA): Iran Should Be Nuked

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Republican Duncan Hunter says if we’re going to “hit” Iran, we should do it with nuclear weapons.

Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-CA) said Wednesday that if the U.S. needs to use the military option against Iran, America should deploy its “tactical nuclear devices.”

“I think if you have to hit Iran, you don’t put boots on the ground. You do it with tactical nuclear devices, and you set them back a decade or two or three,” Hunter said in an interview with C-SPAN. “I think that’s the way to do it — with a massive aerial bombardment campaign.”

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1 Internet Tough Guy  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:03:53am

I’m sure the Russians would be OK with this.

2 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:04:11am

The man is certifiably, bug-fuck INSANE!

3 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:04:17am

Wait, wait, is this the same Duncan Hunter that was a “moderate” in 2008?

4 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:04:58am

Representative government is so much easier when you know you have no power and no intention of actually taking action. Then you can just babble bullshit about the scary brown people.

Censure is a depressingly under-utilized power of the US House of Representatives.

5 Schadenboner  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:05:56am

All I can do is echo Targetpractice: the guy is bug-fuck.

6 Schadenboner  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:07:16am

re: #3 Lord of the Pies

Wait, wait, is this the same Duncan Hunter that was a “moderate” in 2008?

He’s a moderate nihilist: he just wants to destroy Islamic countries and his own country. Not *every* country like those radical nihilists.

7 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:07:18am

Wasn’t this idiot one of the GOP presidential candidates last year? I remember there was a whole pack of TP fundies who were trying to outdo each other in their Birch- inspired craziness.

8 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:07:30am

Yeah great idea Dunky, start World War III. who cares if people die. I mean you’re going to be in the safety of the privilge that goes with being a Member of Congress. I’ll third what TP said. Bug fucking insane but unfortunately a lot of people in his party thing like this. I still remember people loving the idea of nuking Iraq in 2002 during the lead up to Iraq.

9 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:07:55am

Anyone who advocates using a nuclear device either (a) doesn’t know anything about the consequences, (b) is certifiably insane, or (c) both.

Hunter is both.

10 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:08:13am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

Wasn’t this idiot one of the GOP presidential candidates last year? I remember there was a whole pack of TP fundies who were trying to outdo each other in their Birch- inspired craziness.

His Dad ran in 2008. Sonny boy holds Dad’s old seat. He was I believe Ann Coulter’s choice for president. Make out of that what you will.

11 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:08:13am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

Wasn’t this idiot one of the GOP presidential candidates last year? I remember there was a whole pack of TP fundies who were trying to outdo each other in their Birch- inspired craziness.

I think you’re thinking Huntsman, who was the closest-thing-to-a-moderate to run, and dropped out early.

This guy’s just insane.

12 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:08:36am

re: #3 Lord of the Pies

Wait, wait, is this the same Duncan Hunter that was a “moderate” in 2008?

Hunter was never a moderate. Ann Coulter ranted and raved in 2008 about how much she loved his policies.

13 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:08:40am

Nuke Iran? Really?

Heck, it’s not just the regime that has to go, but he wants to nuke the entire country? Genocide? Democide? All that means nothing to him.

And why pray-tell, does he demand use of nukes? Because.

Well, he thinks nuking Iran is preferable to sending in ground forces should it come to that (he’s figuring the US will eventually have to invade…)

Iran’s a bad regime. They do real bad things - to their own people, and to other countries in the Middle East by and through their proxies.

But that doesn’t mean they deserve to be nuked.

Only way they get nuked is if they fire off a nuke at someone else first. We haven’t nuked North Korea, and we’re still technically in a state of war with them - and North Koreans have tested several nuclear devices.

14 Flying Squirrel Girl  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:08:54am

They are still completely oblivious to the fact that there are military powers that could and would CHECK us were we to try such a thing. The neo-cons (yes, overused but in this case the correct term) in GWB’s administration at least knew they needed a “Pearl Harbor-style attack” to get the world to come on board with out misadventures in Iraq. These nitwits still act as though we are the world’s only superpower.

15 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:09:00am
“I think if you have to hit Iran, you don’t put boots on the ground. You do it with tactical nuclear devices, and you set them back a decade or two or three,” Hunter said in an interview with C-SPAN. “I think that’s the way to do it — with a massive aerial bombardment campaign.”

Less than an arm chair general, more like a toilet seat general.

16 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:09:20am

re: #7 Shiplord Kirel

Wasn’t this idiot one of the GOP presidential candidates last year? I remember there was a whole pack of TP fundies who were trying to outdo each other in their Birch- inspired craziness.

No that was his father, a CA GOP Representative, Vietnam vet. The son has tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

17 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:10:10am

Duncan the Lesser so much wants to be his father’s spitting image… but he’s even loonier than his father (who used to be my Rep.)

His district includes our own local version of a creationism museum, btw. His base of support comes from mega churches like Skyline and Shadow Mountain.

18 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:10:19am

re: #12 Lidane

Hunter was never a moderate. Ann Coulter ranted and raved in 2008 about how much she loved his policies.

I may have been thinking of John Huntsman.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:10:35am

re: #10 HappyWarrior

His Dad ran in 2008. Sonny boy holds Dad’s old seat. He was I believe Ann Coulter’s choice for president. Make out of that what you will.

Thanks. The nut doesn’t fall from the tree.

20 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:10:58am

Would someone PLEASE take Rep. Hunter aside and tell him that the reason we never had nukes raining down on Americans during the Cold War is because we weren’t raining them down on our enemies? When you turn nuclear weapons into just another item in the arsenal instead of an item of last resort, then your enemies will be quick to reciprocate.

21 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:11:20am

HURR HURR

22 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:11:21am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks. The nut doesn’t fall from the tree.

No prob. Yeah I guess not. I see he’s a vet too. You’d think that having seen time in the ME would perhaps make him wiser when it comes to this kind of shit.

23 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:11:24am

re: #13 lawhawk

Iran’s a bad regime. They do real bad things - to their own people, and to other countries in the Middle East by and through their proxies.

But that doesn’t mean they deserve to be nuked.

Only way they get nuked is if they fire off a nuke at someone else first. We haven’t nuked North Korea, and we’re still technically in a state of war with them - and North Koreans have tested several nuclear devices.

Iran haz brown people and scary Moozlims.

We have to nuke it from orbit, just to be sure.

24 Ming  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:09am

Congressman Hunter’s remarks about nuking Iran, at first glance, seem like a rather ordinary example of “the GOP crazy”. But this is a little different, because of the kind of attention it will surely receive among foreign observers.

25 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:11am

re: #22 HappyWarrior

No prob. Yeah I guess not. I see he’s a vet too. You’d think that having seen time in the ME would perhaps make him wiser when it comes to this kind of shit.

For some people, it just amps up the hatred.

Like this.

26 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:14am

re: #20 Targetpractice

Would someone PLEASE take Rep. Hunter aside and tell him that the reason we never had nukes raining down on Americans during the Cold War is because we weren’t raining them down on our enemies? When you turn nuclear weapons into just another item in the arsenal instead of an item of last resort, then your enemies will be quick to reciprocate.

Seriously. Did this idiot not learn one thing about why the Cold War ended with neither us or the former USSR as nuclear wastelands?

27 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:14am
28 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:16am

This would be the same Duncan Hunter who said a dictatorship is fine as long as Republicans were in charge.

29 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:12:48am

re: #24 Ming

Congressman Hunter’s remarks about nuking Iran, at first glance, seem like a rather ordinary example of “the GOP crazy”. But this is a little different, because of the kind of attention it will surely receive among foreign observers.

Which defense contractors are in his constituency?

30 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:13:31am

re: #25 klys

For some people, it just amps up the hatred.

Like this.

Yep, true point. Quite sad honestly. Some guys go to war and write elegant literature about the horrors of modern war and others well they make that war a distant memory. Not saying Hunter is Hitler FWIW but it disturbs me that a man who’s seen war would say something so absurd.

31 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:13:39am

Gus u make me hav a sad :(

32 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:13:40am

re: #11 klys

I think you’re thinking Huntsman, who was the closest-thing-to-a-moderate to run, and dropped out early.

This guy’s just insane.

I remember Huntsman. Easily the best qualified Republican candidate, and quite possibly could have been a decent president. Naturally he didn’t have a snowball’s chance in hell at the nomination.

33 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:13:54am

Shit, if you don’t want to spend a couple minutes beating your head against a wall trying to explain just how fucked up an idea this is to the little douche nozzle, then hand him a copy of The Day After and don’t let him leave the room until after the credits stop rolling.

34 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:13:59am

re: #29 FemNaziBitch

Which defense contractors are in his constituency?

I think he’s out of San Diego. Lot of USMC stuff there.

35 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:14:02am

re: #29 FemNaziBitch

Which defense contractors are in his constituency?

Quite a few. His daddy headed up the committee, and that sent a non-trivial amount of $$ to San Diego county, which already gets lots of defense $$ anyway due to the USN home.

36 Whack-A-Mole  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:15:02am

From the article:
Rep Hunter: ” You’ve got some crazy guys running the governments there.”

As opposed to here? Maybe he should think about how the rest of the world sees our government. A government that votes 40+ times to repeal giving it’s citizens healthcare. A country that launched a massive war in a country on the basis of deception and outright lies. A country that is cutting food subsidies to those who need it worst to finance tax breaks to it’s most wealthy citizens. And the list goes on.

On the whole, while their support for terrorism is unequivocally wrong, I’d submit that Iran has acted in a much more rational manner than our own government over the last decade or so.

37 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:15:29am

WTFITS
Erick NOTHING will make the Waltons poor.

38 b.d.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:15:44am

A regular chip off the old block, his dad only seemed to hate local brown people iirc.

39 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:15:58am
40 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:16:25am

re: #35 freetoken

Quite a few. His daddy headed up the committee, and that sent a non-trivial amount of $$ to San Diego county, which already gets lots of defense $$ anyway due to the USN home.

Well, that explains a lot.

41 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:16:52am

HURR HURR IF WE PAYS TEH WORKERS AT WALMART & MCDONALDS MOAR MONEYS THEY WON’T BE MOTIVATED TO LOOK FOR BETTER JRRBS!!!!11!!!!!!
Yes they will still be motivated to look for better jobs because, even apart from the shitty pay, WORKING IN THOSE PLACES SUCKS.

42 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:16:55am

re: #37 Lord of the Pies

WTFITS
Erick NOTHING will make the Waltons poor.

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Yeah oh no, they won’t be able to buy one more yacht. Give me a fucking berak Erick, Obama’s proposed that the rich pay the same amount in taxes that they did in the Clinton years. He’s not proposing Eisenhower era rates or even Nixon era rates but rather Clinton era. If you think that’s a war on the rich, then you’re an even sorry son of a bitch tnan I thought.

43 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:17:35am

re: #29 FemNaziBitch

Which defense contractors are in his constituency?

Except for a relatively small ‘boutique’ industry, defense contractors don’t like nukes. There is much more profit in outfitting the divisions and air wings that would be necessary without them. Development of nukes in the 50s was seen as the cheap way to offset the massive disadvantage we faced relative to USSR and Chinese conventional numbers.

44 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:18:37am

re: #42 HappyWarrior

Yeah oh no, they won’t be able to buy one more yacht. Give me a fucking berak Erick, Obama’s proposed that the rich pay the same amount in taxes that they did in the Clinton years. He’s not proposing Eisenhower era rates or even Nixon era rates but rather Clinton era. If you think that’s a war on the rich, then you’re an even sorry son of a bitch tnan I thought.

I’d settle for unearned income being taxed at the same rate as earned income, instead of the convoluted mess our tax code’s been jumbled into in order to allow the Waltons to live off their investments for the rest of their lives.

45 dog philosopher  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:19:56am

it’s clear that no iran policy is acceptable to republicans unless it involves some kind of bombardment

46 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:20:22am

re: #44 Targetpractice

I’d settle for unearned income being taxed at the same rate as earned income, instead of the convoluted mess our tax code’s been jumbled into in order to allow the Waltons to live off their investments for the rest of their lives.

I’d settle for a tax code that doesn’t require a fucking accountant and/or computer program to file my return.

47 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:21:09am

re: #46 klys

I’d settle for a tax code that doesn’t require a fucking accountant and/or computer program to file my return.

FLAT TAX!!!!!

48 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:21:25am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Except for a relatively small ‘boutique’ industry, defense contractors don’t like nukes. There is much more profit in outfitting the divisions and air wings that would be necessary without them. Development of nukes in the 50s was seen as the cheap way to offset the massive disadvantage we faced relative to USSR and Chinese conventional numbers.

And after that a way for defense contractors to make huge wads of dough digging massive underground silos, building the missiles to go in them, putting missile-carrying subs to sea, building and maintaining intercontinental range bombers, and the occasional foray into experimental ways of reducing patches of land/sea/sky into radioactive byproducts.

49 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:21:49am

WTFITS
I just can’t even.

50 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:22:07am

Yikes! Hunter the younger is not only a vet, he hold the rank of major in the USMC Reserve. Not only that, he was in field artillery and should have some historical knowledge of tactical nukes and tactical nuclear doctrine.
He absolutely should know better than this. If not, his superiors need to take a close look at his military eduction and career development.

51 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:22:10am

re: #37 Lord of the Pies

WTFITS
Erick NOTHING will make the Waltons poor.

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Catching more of the overseas tax cheats will help. I was monitoring that for a while, but have fallen behind. I think I read a new treaty was signed with haven country.

52 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:22:18am
53 BongCrodny  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:23:00am

re: #21 Lord of the Pies

HURR HURR

Americans must stand together against Obama who is destroying OUR FREEDOMS do you care?

Can he list them?

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single fucking thing that I can’t do today that I could in 2007.

54 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:23:06am

re: #43 Decatur Deb

Except for a relatively small ‘boutique’ industry, defense contractors don’t like nukes. There is much more profit in outfitting the divisions and air wings that would be necessary without them. Development of nukes in the 50s was seen as the cheap way to offset the massive disadvantage we faced relative to USSR and Chinese conventional numbers.

defense spending is defense spending —food, clothing and shelter and the clean-up afterwards. The faux boon to the economy that so many still believe in.

55 SpaceJesus  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:23:08am

I wouldn’t even do that in a game of Civilization

56 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:23:28am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! Hunter the younger is not only a vet, he hold the rank of major in the USMC Reserve. Not only that, he was in field artillery and should have some historical knowledge of tactical nukes and tactical nuclear doctrine.
He absolutely should know better than this. If not, his superiors need to take a close look at his military eduction and career development.

It is a pillar of modern Republican representation that one need not believe what one is saying, or base one’s policies on facts or data or theories grounded in reality.

57 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:24:00am

re: #53 BongCrodny

Can he list them?

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single fucking thing that I can’t do today that I could in 2007.

Run an eight-minute mile.

THANKS OBAMA

58 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:24:27am

re: #33 Targetpractice

Shit, if you don’t want to spend a couple minutes beating your head against a wall trying to explain just how fucked up an idea this is to the little douche nozzle, then hand him a copy of The Day After and don’t let him leave the room until after the credits stop rolling.

Liberal Propaganda!

59 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:25:19am

re: #56 erik_t

It is a pillar of modern Republican representation that one need not believe what one is saying, or base one’s policies on facts or data or theories grounded in reality.

Just demonize women, the poor, brown people, LGBT people, and every religion except Christianity and you’re golden in the GOP.

Also, advocate nuking the Middle East for the baby Jesus and giving even more tax breaks to billionaires and you’re set for life on the RWNJ circuit.

60 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:25:58am

re: #45 dog philosopher

it’s clear that no iran policy is acceptable to republicans unless it involves some kind of bombardment

A policy that involves peacefully addressing the potential for Iran developing nukes is a non-starter to them. Why? Because it would totally upend decades of campaigning on the idea that only Republicans can be relied upon to defend America because they’re willing to go to war with anybody who even looks at us funny. It’s why they found themselves in so much of a bind when the President was ready to bomb Syria, because they were caught between their love of war and their hatred of the man.

61 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:26:35am

Wingnuts still spamming the meme that there are MOAR DISABILITY MOOCHERS THAN ALL TEH PEOPLE IN GREECE!!!!1!!!!11!!!!
I don’t even understand what point they are trying to make.

62 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:27:04am

THE NAIL in the GOP Coffin.

63 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:27:40am

re: #50 Shiplord Kirel

He absolutely should know better than this.

And he actually might know better. But he’s also a Republican politician who knows that the knuckle-dragging right wing base loves this kind of shit.

64 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:27:42am

re: #48 Targetpractice

And after that a way for defense contractors to make huge wads of dough digging massive underground silos, building the missiles to go in them, putting missile-carrying subs to sea, building and maintaining intercontinental range bombers, and the occasional foray into experimental ways of reducing patches of land/sea/sky into radioactive byproducts.

Still far cheaper than trying to fight a 40-year cold war with a 100-division army and 2000-ship navy. We would have been locked in a Sparta-level economy and social structure. Learn to love the Bomb.

65 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:27:45am

re: #58 GeneJockey

Liberal Propaganda!

That movie was one of those items of fiction so real that the president (Reagan at the time) had to demand of his experts if it could actually happen. To Ron’s credit, he did attribute much of the later nuclear disarmament success to the film’s impact on viewers.

66 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:27:59am

re: #53 BongCrodny

Can he list them?

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single fucking thing that I can’t do today that I could in 2007.

I can actually do more. Granted I turned 21 in 2008 but yeah I’d like a list of what FREEDOMS Obama has taken away.

67 The Mountain That Blogs  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:28:09am

re: #61 Lord of the Pies

There are more people in the five boroughs + Nassau County than there are in Greece.

68 BongCrodny  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:29:10am

re: #49 Lord of the Pies

You’re standing on graves again. — Ben Shapiro

…whereas you, Mr. Shapiro, are pissing on them.

69 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:29:32am

re: #66 HappyWarrior

I can actually do more. Granted I turned 21 in 2008 but yeah I’d like a list of what FREEDOMS Obama has taken away.

And a list of the freedoms Republicans are trying to take away (and succeeding in some places) for contrast.

Like voting. And the ability to make my own medical decisions.

70 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:29:34am

re: #64 Decatur Deb

Still far cheaper than trying to fight a 40-year cold war with a 100-division army and 2000-ship navy. We would have been locked in a Sparta-level economy and social structure. Learn to love the Bomb.

OK Mr. Kubrick.

71 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:29:34am

HURR HURR LIKE THAT COMMIE POPE FRANCIS!!!!!1!!!!

72 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:31:16am

re: #70 Dark_Falcon

OK Mr. Kubrick.

Been drinking about the unthinkable.

73 blueraven  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:31:29am

re: #37 Lord of the Pies

WTFITS
Erick NOTHING will make the Waltons poor.

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No Eric, we are tired of subsidizing Walmart profits with our tax dollars used to pay SNAP benefits for their employees.

74 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:31:41am

re: #69 klys

And a list of the freedoms Republicans are trying to take away (and succeeding in some places) for contrast.

Like voting. And the ability to make my own medical decisions.

Seriously, it’s fucking rich of the right to claim that Obama’s taking away freedoms when they’ve made taking away freedoms part of their legislative efforts.

75 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:31:46am

re: #49 Lord of the Pies

>WTFITS
I just can’t even.

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Here’s how it works:

Immediately after a mass killing is too soon to talk about guns, but not for blaming antidepressants, heavy metal music, video games, permissive parents, gay marriage, violence in movies, atheism, or Islam. This period lasts months.

Once that period expires - well, usually before that period expires there’s another mass killing that resets the ‘Too Soon Clock’. But in the unlikely event that the period expires without another mass killing, then The country has moved on. Why are you digging up the dead to use as props to take our freedoms?

76 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:33:34am

re: #73 blueraven

No Eric, we are tired of subsidizing Walmart profits with our tax dollars used to pay SNAP benefits for their employees.

It’s even worse that you think.

Waltons take tax subsidies to give charity money TO THEMSELVES.

77 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:33:38am

So according to Erick, people should never contribute to something because they should just do it themselves, so does that count towards national defense and law enforcement as well?

Why bother with funding the Navy or Air Force when people should just do it themselves?

78 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:33:47am

re: #74 HappyWarrior

Seriously, it’s fucking rich of the right to claim that Obama’s taking away freedoms when they’ve made taking away freedoms part of their legislative efforts.

They’re losing the freedom to take away other people’s freedom.

79 SpaceJesus  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:33:49am

re: #71 Lord of the Pies

Laugh unto Erick Erickson what is Erick Erickson’s

80 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:34:11am

re: #75 GeneJockey

Here’s how it works:

Immediately after a mass killing is too soon to talk about guns, but not for blaming antidepressants, heavy metal music, video games, permissive parents, gay marriage, violence in movies, atheism, or Islam. This period lasts months.

Once that period expires - well, usually before that period expires there’s another mass killing that resets the ‘Too Soon Clock’. But in the unlikely event that the period expires without another mass killing, then The country has moved on. Why are you digging up the dead to use as props to take our freedoms?

Pretty much. It’s all cool to blame gay marriage on school shootings but don’t talk to them about it being absurdly easy to get a gun in this country. We can’t talk about that. Fucking morons will blame anything for school shootings except their precious guns.

81 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:34:17am

re: #77 Kragar

So according to Erick, people should never contribute to something because they should just do it themselves, so does that count towards national defense and law enforcement as well?

Why bother with funding the Navy or Air Force when people should just do it themselves?

HURR HURR WE TEH PEOPLE CAN HAZ ARE GUNZ!!!!!11!!!!

82 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:34:25am

Just got in to the thread…

And so goes away the any moral high ground when our diplomats at State point to harsh rhetoric of war and destruction from leadership in Iran about Israel.

83 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:35:02am

re: #26 HappyWarrior

Seriously. Did this idiot not learn one thing about why the Cold War ended with neither us or the former USSR as nuclear wastelands?

those were all false flags…

//

84 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:35:33am

Entitlement ‘Reformers’ Admit Taxing The Rich Would Help, A Lot

85 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:36:05am

re: #77 Kragar

So according to Erick, people should never contribute to something because they should just do it themselves, so does that count towards national defense and law enforcement as well?

Why bother with funding the Navy or Air Force when people should just do it themselves?

make the military branchs 501(c)3s?

What a concept.

86 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:36:09am

re: #77 Kragar

So according to Erick, people should never contribute to something because they should just do it themselves, so does that count towards national defense and law enforcement as well?

Why bother with funding the Navy or Air Force when people should just do it themselves?

Seriously, what a stupid argument he makes. It’s all part of the right wing’s bizarro marriage between religious authoritarianism and Randian economics though. The government should be involved in telling you who you can and cannot fuck consentually but no the government can’t be involved in helping people at all because charity is always better and the thing is it sounds nice on paper regarding charity but charities aren’t perfect. And the fact of the matter is the system Erickson supports is a system that coddles the very wealthy at the expense of the rest of us.

87 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:36:12am

When you are arguing with Eric son of Erick, remember you are arguing with someone in active denial about his supporter’s belief in creationism, even though his own site promotes explicit creationist rants like from a couple of months ago.

88 Schadenboner  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:36:17am

re: #53 BongCrodny

Can he list them?

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single fucking thing that I can’t do today that I could in 2007.

Well, to be fair, your right to be denied health insurance coverage based on pre-existing conditions has been sacrificed at the pagan altar of this Keynan marxofascist.

89 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:38:15am

re: #53 BongCrodny

Can he list them?

As far as I can tell, there isn’t a single fucking thing that I can’t do today that I could in 2007.

I find it much more of a challenge to climb the stairs.

They’ve done a lot of construction where I live, so it takes a lot longer to drive to certain places. I find I can’t get to the mall as often as I’d like.

90 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:38:23am

re: #65 Targetpractice

That movie was one of those items of fiction so real that the president (Reagan at the time) had to demand of his experts if it could actually happen. To Ron’s credit, he did attribute much of the later nuclear disarmament success to the film’s impact on viewers.

There was another movie that came out around the same time, Testament, that I found far more compelling, and scary and depressing at a much deeper level than The Day After, which was more sensationalist. It deals with the survivors who are at a distance (like Walnut Creek) from the blast in SF. No shots of happy families being vaporized, just the inexorable, inevitable doom as fallout and radiation sickness kill some, leaving others to struggle on.

91 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:38:59am
92 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:39:06am


Now, I already surmised this. I’m sure others will have their world view destroyed.

93 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:39:35am

re: #91 Kragar

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Posted it!

94 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:39:39am

Hunter, and those of his ilk, should have to watch this movie on a continuous loop.

imdb.com

I never forgot seeing it. Jane Alexander was terrific as a mother trying to keep her children alive.

95 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:39:45am

I refuse to accept that any of my ancestors would have had a beard like that.

/not sure if

96 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:39:54am

re: #91 Kragar

That’s why Jesus totally shunned the lepers and the prostitutes, you know.

///

97 CuriousLurker  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:40:13am

Okay, since the topic is still Iran…

Charles posted this in a comment downstairs:


I went in search of more info on the image to try to find out if there was any other reason besides the most obvious one one assumed by the tweeter for the women to be sitting on the ground (it’s tightly cropped so we can’t see the entire room, there’s clearly another woman seated in the foreground, etc.) but then I ran across this image of female Iranian ninjas.

I was like: Okay. Wait…wut? *blinks, rubs eyes*

So I turned to Google Images for more. Holy crap! O_o

Next time I tell one of you guys I’m reaching for my scimitar, I want you to picture one of those ninja ladies, m’kay?

How in the hell did I miss that story last year? Looks like it got Reuters in hot water for claiming they were assassins:

Iran’s Female Ninjas Are Suing Reuters

Last month, Reuters came out with a report on Iran’s famed female ninjas, who are fighting for sexual equality under the Ayatollah by studying ancient martial arts. There are nearly 3,500 of them. Though the women toss shurikens and deliver crushing roundhouses, it’s all for practice and show — they don’t actually stalk and kill political targets under the cover of night.

Unfortunately, the Reuters story called the ladies “assassins” and alleged that they would be deployed to kill foreign invaders. Other British news outlets repeated the false claim. Realizing its mistake, Reuters quickly corrected the report, but the peaceful martial artists claim that the damage to their reputation has already been done. They’re now suing for defamation of character. […]

nymag.com

So those are the choices, I guess: doormats or deadly assassins. //

98 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:40:36am

Maybe we should nuke Burma while we’re at it:

99 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:40:41am

re: #91 Kragar

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Got any proof for that Bill or did you pull that from your fat head again? Love how it’s a war on Christmas to Bill O to wish people a Happy Holidays but it’s perfectly Christianly to cut from a program that primarily benefits children. Fucker.

100 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:40:42am

re: #44 Targetpractice

I’d settle for unearned income being taxed at the same rate as earned income, instead of the convoluted mess our tax code’s been jumbled into in order to allow the Waltons to live off their investments for the rest of their lives.

THIS! I’m sick and tired of MY piddling interest and dividends being taxed as earned income, and I don’t care how many times people try to explain why some interest and dividends are “different” from mine.

101 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:41:05am

re: #92 FemNaziBitch

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Now, I already surmised this. I’m sure others will have their world view destroyed.

I DIDN’T COME FROM NO MONKEY, OBAMA DID!!!11 HURR DURR, BURR YURR GURR!!1

102 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:41:08am

There was a split in US doctrinal thinking about tactical nukes. A small minority of mid-grade officers pushed them as ‘just another artillery round, not at all like a city-buster’. They did not prevail, partly because Warsaw Pact doctrine was that ‘nukes is nukes, and we’ll empty the silos the first time you pop one’.

103 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:41:38am

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

104 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:41:57am

re: #92 FemNaziBitch

We are the last surviving group of what appears to have been a flourishing genus the past couple of millions of years.

Maybe we’ll do ourselves in, too.

105 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:42:08am

re: #102 Decatur Deb

I never heard it clearly explained to me why escalation would not take place, or at how many kilotons the Soviets would suddenly and cheerfully decide to stop being okay with lobbing them.

106 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:42:51am

re: #98 Lidane

Maybe we should nuke Burma while we’re at it:

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So Pam’s now defending Burma’s government. Shit, I didn’t think she could sink any lower and here she is defending a government with one of the worst records on human rights simply because that government hates Muslims. That woman’s nothing but a common psycho who would be joyful if every Muslim was wiped off from the earth.

107 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:42:54am

re: #104 freetoken

We are the last surviving group of what appears to have been a flourishing genus the past couple of millions of years.

Maybe we’ll do ourselves in, too.

What we lack in number of species we more than make up for in sheer biomass!

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:43:07am

re: #49 Lord of the Pies

>WTFITS
I just can’t even.

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109 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:43:38am

re: #86 HappyWarrior

Seriously, what a stupid argument he makes. It’s all part of the right wing’s bizarro marriage between religious authoritarianism and Randian economics though. The government should be involved in telling you who you can and cannot fuck consentually but no the government can’t be involved in helping people at all because charity is always better and the thing is it sounds nice on paper regarding charity but charities aren’t perfect. And the fact of the matter is the system Erickson supports is a system that coddles the very wealthy at the expense of the rest of us.

If you removed the favored status charitable donations receive in the tax code, most charity organizations would dry up in a year. When you removed charity as a tax write-off, all those big checks from wealthy donors would simply go to another tax shelter.

110 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:44:08am

re: #97 CuriousLurker

Okay, since the topic is still Iran…

Charles posted this in a comment downstairs:

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I went in search of more info on the image to try to find out if there was any other reason besides the most obvious one one assumed by the tweeter for the women to be sitting on the ground (it’s tightly cropped so we can’t see the entire room, there’s clearly another woman seated in the foreground, etc.) but then I ran across this image of female Iranian ninjas.

I was like: Okay. Wait…wut? *blinks, rubs eyes*

So I turned to Google Images for more. Holy crap! O_o

Next time I tell one of you guys I’m reaching for my scimitar, I want you to picture one of those ninja ladies, m’kay?

How in the hell did I miss that story last year? Looks like it got Reuters in hot water for claiming they were assassins:

So those are the choices, I guess: doormats or deadly assassins. //

I was thinking they just came in late and all the seats were taken, and men are mostly douches who won’t stand up for a lady. I mean you ride the subway, don’t you?

111 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:44:26am

As an aside, it becomes exponentially harder to deny or reject the desire by the Iranian leadership to develop nuclear weapons when we have elected US officials saying that we should attack Iran with exactly the same weapons.

The concept of American exceptionalism is, for some reason, expected to be taken with a smile by, uh, “lesser countries”. But then, a large faction of the GOP never really had a problem with the idea of second-class citizenship.

112 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:44:50am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

Sarah Palin puts a notch on her makeup compact.

113 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:45:02am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

Of course, but it’s perfectly alright for everyone on FNC to accuse the President of being a traitor. I mean, I think what Bashir said was shitty (pun intended) but the kind of behavior that forced his resignation is accepted and commonplace in the right wing media. Limbaugh calls Fluke a slut and the right wingers eat it up, calling him a clever satirist.

114 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:45:45am

re: #102 Decatur Deb

There was a split in US doctrinal thinking about tactical nukes. A small minority of mid-grade officers pushed them as ‘just another artillery round, not at all like a city-buster’. They did not prevail, partly because Warsaw Pact doctrine was that ‘nukes is nukes, and we’ll empty the silos the first time you pop one’.

My understanding has always been that tactical nukes were pushed as a relatively “clean” way of addressing what was perceived to be the real threat of WWIII, namely wave attacks by the Soviets. Detonate enough nukes over a patch of land and you would either break up the attacks or just bomb them out of existence instead.

115 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:46:28am

re: #105 erik_t

I never heard it clearly explained to me why escalation would not take place, or at how many kilotons the Soviets would suddenly and cheerfully decide to stop being okay with lobbing them.

After the wall fell WP stuff started to be declassified. Found out that our tiny base in Italy (about 1500 soldiers) had two 500kt warheads in Hungary assigned to us. Would have wrecked the tourist season in Venice.

116 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:46:38am

re: #111 erik_t

As an aside, it becomes exponentially harder to deny or reject the desire by the Iranian leadership to develop nuclear weapons when we have elected US officials saying that we should attack Iran with exactly the same weapons.

The concept of American exceptionalism is, for some reason, expected to be taken with a smile by, uh, “lesser countries”. But then, a large faction of the GOP never really had a problem with the idea of second-class citizenship.

This! This! A thousand times THIS!

How could it POSSIBLY be more clear why any country that attracts negative attention from the US would want to have nukes?

Iraq: No nukes. Government crushed by US invasion and occupation.

North Korea: Nukes. No invasion.

Do the math.

117 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:46:46am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

I find it sad, so sad, that I agree with him. I know she is a human being and I work overtime screaming to others about such things.

I’m a hypocrite and am going to hell.

118 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:47:33am

re: #109 Targetpractice

If you removed the favored status charitable donations receive in the tax code, most charity organizations would dry up in a year. When you removed charity as a tax write-off, all those big checks from wealthy donors would simply go to another tax shelter.

The Waltons set up a foundation to give themselves charitable donations for their art collection which is mostly inaccessible (unlike the DIA treasures) and also get some of your taxpayer money.

All this while helping NO POOR PEOPLE

HURR HURR THEY GIVES THEM JRRBS IF TEH WALTONS DIDN’T GIVE POOR PEOPLE TEH JRRBS THEY’D BE EVEN MOAR POORS!!!!11!!!!!! HOW MENY JRRBS HAS U CREEATED U LUBRUL??? I BET U SIT AT HOME ALL DAY ALL UNEMPLOYED TAKIN TEH WELFARES & TEH FOOD STAMPS!!!!!!!

119 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:48:37am

re: #114 Targetpractice

My understanding has always been that tactical nukes were pushed as a relatively “clean” way of addressing what was perceived to be the real threat of WWIII, namely wave attacks by the Soviets. Detonate enough nukes over a patch of land and you would either break up the attacks or just bomb them out of existence instead.

Their answer to that was “city-hugging”, keeping their forces and routes as close as possible to western populations.

120 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:48:59am

re: #105 erik_t

I never heard it clearly explained to me why escalation would not take place, or at how many kilotons the Soviets would suddenly and cheerfully decide to stop being okay with lobbing them.

Because we are the big, badass US of A! Once they see how big our Military Penises are, they’ll bow down in abject servitude.

121 CuriousLurker  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:49:35am

re: #110 Lord of the Pies

I was thinking they just came in late and all the seats were taken, and men are mostly douches who won’t stand up for a lady. I mean you ride the subway, don’t you?

Yeah, it’s rare to have a man give you his seat on the subway or bus around here. That and Iran—despite its numerous shortcomings in terms of women’s rights—isn’t Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, so there could’ve been lots of explanations for why they were sitting on the floor.

122 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:49:37am

re: #114 Targetpractice

My understanding has always been that tactical nukes were pushed as a relatively “clean” way of addressing what was perceived to be the real threat of WWIII, namely wave attacks by the Soviets. Detonate enough nukes over a patch of land and you would either break up the attacks or just bomb them out of existence instead.

From a technical and operational standpoint, it’s a lot easier to discern the difference between [NUKES/NOT NUKES] and [SMALL NUKES/BIG NUKES]. Atmospheric samples go all haywire, you have to start deciding whether the inbound ballistic target is 10kT or a hundred times that…

Combined with the explicit loosening of long-standing operational restraints on the part of whichever party first uses tactical nuclear weapons, and a rational observer considers it almost a foregone conclusion that a tactical nuclear war moves swiftly and inexorably towards a strategic one. And you’d better be the one to make that move, because if the other guy beats you to it then he’s going to knock out a bunch of your counter-punch while it’s still on the ground.

123 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:49:50am

More bits of wisdom from Duncan Hunter:

124 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:50:59am

re: #123 Lidane

More bits of wisdom from Duncan Hunter:

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Alright Duncan, fess up, you’re a Geller fanboy, aren’t you?

125 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:51:00am
126 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:51:26am

re: #123 Lidane

More bits of wisdom from Duncan Hunter:

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He does realize the religion he practices is Middle Eastern in origin, does he? //

127 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:51:31am

HURR HURR BECAUSE TAHT OTHER PICTURE OF TEH NOOSE GOT DELETED FROM TEH TWITTERZ WEN SUM LIBRULS COMPLAINED

128 Bubblehead II  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:51:36am

Welcome Hatchling.

Karma: 0
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129 HappyWarrior  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:51:58am

re: #125 FemNaziBitch

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Son of an arch-segregationist says what.

130 CuriousLurker  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:52:12am

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Yeah, it’s rare to have a man give you his seat on the subway or bus around here. That and Iran—despite its numerous shortcomings in terms of women’s rights—isn’t Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, so there could’ve been lots of explanations for why they were sitting on the floor.

That said, it’s still pretty douchey that the men seated didn’t insist that the women take their chairs.

131 b.d.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:52:16am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

I wonder what cartoon version of a liberal they will fill his slot with. MSNBC doesn’t have a old hippie host yet.

132 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:52:52am

re: #47 freetoken

FLAT TAX!!!!!

Actually I’d have no problem what so ever with a flat tax system, provided, and only if, it included a substantial ‘prebate’ system. That would protect the people at the lower end of the income scale from paying an extortionate rate of their “non-discretionary” income in taxes. It would help provide some measure of fairness to the system. I would also like it if everybody, regardless of income, paid some amount into the system, simply to reinforce the idea that everybody had some skin in the game.

Eliminate pretty much all deductions, allow interest on primary residence only, and and all tax deductible contributions to organizations MUST be a matter of public record, and any organization claiming any tax-exempt status must make all contributions public record info.

RBS

133 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:52:54am

re: #131 b.d.

I wonder what cartoon version of a liberal they will fill his slot with. MSNBC doesn’t have a old hippie host yet.

I hear Alec Baldwin is looking for work. Heh.

134 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:53:11am
135 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:53:22am

spammer alert.

136 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:53:33am

re: #128 Bubblehead II

A spammer.

137 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:53:37am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

And the RWNJs add another scalp to their collection. Meanwhile, Rush The Hutt remains on the air and Faux has staff as well as “guests” who openly opine that the President is either guilty of treason or “dangerously close.”

138 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:54:51am

re: #137 Targetpractice

And the RWNJs add another scalp to their collection. Meanwhile, Rush The Hutt remains on the air and Faux has staff as well as “guests” who openly opine that the President is either guilty of treason or “dangerously close.”

IOKIYAR.

139 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:55:42am

re: #136 Charles Johnson

A spammer.

lightening fast Stinky is!

140 Bubblehead II  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:56:40am

re: #136 Charles Johnson

A spammer.

Damn, 2.22 minutes from registration to ban hammer. Must be a record.

141 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:56:45am

re: #136 Charles Johnson

A spammer.

The troll emerges from its egg, utters its first halting ‘DERP’, and then get pounded into paste by Charles’ Ban Hammer.

142 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:57:12am

re: #140 Bubblehead II

Damn, 2.22 minutes from registration to ban hammer. Must be a record.

I know, I didn’t even get to read it. :0

143 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:57:19am

re: #139 FemNaziBitch

lightening fast is Stinky!

Is Charles Stinky? What’s the story there, fill me in on ‘lizard lore’

RBS

144 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:58:02am

re: #71 Lord of the Pies

HURR HURR LIKE THAT COMMIE POPE FRANCIS!!!!!1!!!!

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So Erickson is advocating that the Waltons, Kochs, etc. do what Jesus recommended in his advice to the young rich man and give it ALL away to the poor?

I’m not holding my breath….

145 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:58:19am

re: #138 Lidane

IOKIYAR.

Whenever this happens, I’m always left with the feeling of having been played. I mean, if Rush had said something similar about someone on the Left, any complaint from the left would have been met with massive pushback from the Right. Consider the Fluke case, for example.

We, OTOH, shake our heads and talk about Bashir going too far, and stand by as he’s dismissed, “more in sorrow than in anger”.

146 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:04am

re: #143 RealityBasedSteve

Is Charles Stinky? What’s the story there, fill me in on ‘lizard lore’

RBS

The greatest trick Stinky ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.

147 BongCrodny  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:06am

re: #89 FemNaziBitch

I find it much more of a challenge to climb the stairs.

They’ve done a lot of construction where I live, so it takes a lot longer to drive to certain places. I find I can’t get to the mall as often as I’d like.

Damn. Is there no end to how that Kenyan has screwed up the US?

148 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:08am

That’s it - I’m now blocking all registrations from Pakistan.

149 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:26am

re: #144 Ian G.

So Erickson is advocating that the Waltons, Kochs, etc. do what Jesus recommended in his advice to the young rich man and give it ALL away to the poor?

I’m not holding my breath….

It’s a parable! The meaning isn’t clear!

150 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:36am

re: #98 Lidane

Maybe we should nuke Burma while we’re at it:

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No, the Burmese government is just fulfilling Pam’s masturbatory fantasies by “ethnically cleansing” Muslims. No reason to nuke such a righteous government.

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151 b.d.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 11:59:48am

re: #103 Charles Johnson

MSNBC caves in to right wing shrieking: Martin Bashir Resigns From MSNBC.

FIRST AMENDMENT!!1!

152 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:00:32pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

The greatest trick Stinky ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.

Ah… I get it, the first rule about Stinky is that you don’t talk about Stinky

RBS

153 blueraven  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:00:42pm

re: #131 b.d.

I wonder what cartoon version of a liberal they will fill his slot with. MSNBC doesn’t have a old hippie host yet.

I hope Joy Reid gets it.

154 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:01:12pm

re: #151 b.d.

FIRST AMENDMENT!!1!

He’s got a funny accent, so he’s probably a furriner! The Constitution doesn’t apply to him!

155 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:01:17pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

That’s it - I’m now blocking all registrations from Pakistan.

“CENSORSHIP!” - Ted Rall

156 sagehen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:01:44pm

re: #131 b.d.

I wonder what cartoon version of a liberal they will fill his slot with. MSNBC doesn’t have a old hippie host yet.

Maybe they can bring back Jerry Springer…

157 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:01:52pm

re: #148 Charles Johnson

That’s it - I’m now blocking all registrations from Pakistan.

HURR HURR U RACIST!!!11!!!

158 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:01:57pm

re: #126 HappyWarrior

No it’s not because shutup. //

159 Ian G.  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:02:11pm

BTW, I know it means I’m a lib’rul who hates ‘murka for pondering how people in other countries think, but if you’re a member of the government of Iran, why the hell would you think the US should be trusted to hold up its end of an agreement with fruitcakes like Hunter and John Bolton so close to the levers of power?

This kind of shit from Hunter is borderline treasonous, insofar as it undermines the interests of the US overseas.

160 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:02:18pm

re: #146 Decatur Deb

The greatest trick Stinky ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist. And like that, poof. He’s gone.

He becomes a myth, a spook story older trolls tell younger ones: “DERP during evening primetime, and Stinky Beaumont will ban you!” And no one ever believes.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:02:22pm

oh good freakin grief…

162 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:03:07pm

re: #145 GeneJockey

Whenever this happens, I’m always left with the feeling of having been played. I mean, if Rush had said something similar about someone on the Left, any complaint from the left would have been met with massive pushback from the Right. Consider the Fluke case, for example.

We, OTOH, shake our heads and talk about Bashir going too far, and stand by as he’s dismissed, “more in sorrow than in anger”.

We’re supposed to be “the adults,” we’re supposed to ascribe to higher level of political discourse by discouraging such behavior and shunning all those in our ranks who should engage in it. Problem is that “the adults” keep getting rolled by momentary slips that get turned into soundbytes which turn get made into “outrageous outrages” that simply cannot be allowed to go lest we all be irreparably stained forever.

163 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:04:03pm

Keaton always said, “I don’t believe in God, but I’m afraid of him.” Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Stinky.

RBS

164 Schadenboner  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:04:35pm

re: #121 CuriousLurker

Yeah, it’s rare to have a man give you his seat on the subway or bus around here. That and Iran—despite its numerous shortcomings in terms of women’s rights—isn’t Saudi Arabia or Afghanistan, so there could’ve been lots of explanations for why they were sitting on the floor.

Also it’s a standing-room-only crowd (witness the line of guys standing along the wall behind them) and there’s a woman sitting in the damn picture.

165 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:05:08pm

re: #163 RealityBasedSteve

Keaton always said, “I don’t believe in God, but I’m afraid of him.” Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Stinky.

RBS

Buster? Alex P.? Diane?

166 BongCrodny  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:05:16pm

re: #140 Bubblehead II

Damn, 2.22 minutes from registration to ban hammer. Must be a record.

Fastest gun in the west.

167 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:05:16pm

The thing about the Pages Post is that for me it is so twisted that our Own Christian Taliban is on the same Page regarding evolution and the beginning of things —literal bible belief etc.

People seem to either miss that point or avoid it at all costs.

I try to keep it out there when I find an article. Maybe, just maybe some Whacko Christian will get the drift or vice versa.

168 nutz4Tuna  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:06:00pm

Charles, are you going to do a Frank Zappa post today?

169 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:06:25pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

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170 dog philosopher  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:06:29pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

S.E. Cupp is guest-hosting Piers Morgan Live, and her guest for the full hour is Glenn Beck

only a one-off one hour derpathon, not as bad as father coughlin jr getting his own show on national cable again

171 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:06:32pm

re: #163 RealityBasedSteve

Keaton always said, “I don’t believe in God, but I’m afraid of him.” Well I believe in God, and the only thing that scares me is Stinky.

RBS

I can put you in Queens on the night of the banning.

172 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:07:31pm

re: #165 GeneJockey

Buster? Alex P.? Diane?

Dean Keaton (played by Gabriel Byrne) in The Usual Suspects.

173 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:08:00pm

NOW you know

174 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:08:01pm

To further confuse matters, the term “tactical nuclear weapon” refers more to intended targets, command arrangements, and delivery systems than it does to the devices themselves. There is no hard line to define “tactical” vs. “strategic” but the Iranian nuclear production facilities would be a strategic target by any definition, ie connected with the enemy’s ability to wage war. Tactical devices are typically of much lower yield than strategic devies, but this need not always be the case. Low yield devices could be used against strategic targets, and high yield ones against tactical targets. If Hunter meant a low yield device, he should have said so, though there is plenty of reason to doubt that a small device would work against deeply buried facilities.

Charles and others are right: He knows better, but he is pandering to what he knows is an ignorant and jingoistic base.

175 aagcobb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:08:09pm

re: #55 SpaceJesus

I wouldn’t even do that in a game of Civilization

I would, the mushroom clouds and sparkly tiles are cool! :)

176 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:08:31pm

re: #171 Kragar

I can put you in Queens on the night of the banning.

This whole funkin’ thread is a shakedown.

177 Mike Lamb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:08:33pm

re: #49 Lord of the Pies

>WTFITS
I just can’t even.

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The appropriate response is “Yes. You’re point being? If I can’t discuss gun control after we see the deaths of so many children in a single event, when is it appropriate?”

178 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:09:20pm

re: #100 Backwoods_Sleuth

THIS! I’m sick and tired of MY piddling interest and dividends being taxed as earned income, and I don’t care how many times people try to explain why some interest and dividends are “different” from mine.

My capital gains are obviously superior to your interest simply due to their name.
//

179 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:09:21pm

re: #167 FemNaziBitch

The thing about the Pages Post is that for me it is so twisted that our Own Christian Taliban is on the same Page regarding evolution and the beginning of things —literal bible belief etc.

People seem to either miss that point or avoid it at all costs.

I try to keep it out there when I find an article. Maybe, just maybe some Whacko Christian will get the drift or vice versa.

No, no, you don’t understand! By pushing for a scientifically rational understanding of the origins of life on earth instead of a fairy tale from one holy book, you’re obviously going to make people believe in the same fairy tale in a somewhat longer version of the same holy book!

180 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:09:39pm

re: #177 Mike Lamb

The appropriate response is “Yes. You’re point being? If I can’t discuss gun control after we see the deaths of so many children in a single event, when is it appropriate?”

NEVER!!!! BECAUSE 2ND AMENTMENT!!!!!

181 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:10:19pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

oh good freakin grief…

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Youtube Video

182 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:10:37pm

re: #104 freetoken

We are the last surviving group of what appears to have been a flourishing genus the past couple of millions of years.

Maybe we’ll do ourselves in, too.

Coming out of the trees may have turned out to have been a bad idea.

183 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:10:57pm

re: #169 Dark_Falcon

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Colbert got his Christmas wish early.

184 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:11:28pm

re: #179 GeneJockey

No, no, you don’t understand! By pushing for a scientifically rational understanding of the origins of life on earth instead of a fairy tale from one holy book, you’re obviously going to make people believe in the same fairy tale in a somewhat longer version of the same holy book!

ah!

185 CuriousLurker  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:12:18pm

re: #164 Schadenboner

Also it’s a standing-room-only crowd (witness the line of guys standing along the wall behind them) and there’s a woman sitting >in the damn picture.

Yeah, the woman sitting in the foreground, the guys standing, and the super-tight cropping gave me pause. I only found a couple of other versions of it before I got distracted by the ninjas, and they were both taken from a perspective where you couldn’t see ANY woman seated, and the captions were all about the poor, poor, pitiful, Muslim women.

One of the links I read said it was a press conference of the new president, so that would explain why it was so crowded. I didn’t save the link though, because…NINJAS!

186 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:12:43pm
“I think if you have to hit Iran, you don’t put boots on the ground. You do it with tactical nuclear devices, and you set them back a decade or two or three,” Hunter said in an interview with C-SPAN.

I’m sure Duncan Hunter Jr., the Third, has the personal military experience to make us take him seriously.

187 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:13:06pm

This is interesting:

“Davy Crockett” W-54 nuclear warhead, 20 ton (NOT kiloton) yield.

Cute, isn’t it?
/sorry

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

188 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:13:15pm

Pssst. Shameless shopping tip Page.

189 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:13:16pm

re: #177 Mike Lamb

The appropriate response is “Yes. You’re point being? If I can’t discuss gun control after we see the deaths of so many children in a single event, when is it appropriate?”

To which I answer “Diane Feinstein brought an ‘assault weapons’ ban up for a vote in the Senate, and the Senate voted it down.”

190 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:13:53pm

re: #173 FemNaziBitch

NOW you know

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Does this mean we can’t fling poop anymore?

dammit…

191 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:14:16pm

re: #175 aagcobb

I would, the mushroom clouds and sparkly tiles are cool! :)

They’re my army slayers.

“Oh, you’re massing up for an invasion? BOOM!”

192 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:14:24pm

re: #186 Skip Intro

I’m sure Duncan Hunter Jr., the Third, has the personal military experience to make us take him seriously.

He has experience, in field artillery specifically, but he knows his audience doesn’t.

193 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:15:08pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

That’s not a given: there are very particular physical reasons why nuclear weapons cannot be made arbitrarily small. There is a minimum mass of (eg) uranium that can be made to be supercritical at an achievable pressure. It’s a surface-area-versus-volume thing, I think.

194 Schadenboner  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:15:20pm

re: #186 Skip Intro

I’m sure Duncan Hunter Jr., the Third, has the personal military experience to make us take him seriously.

He has enough that he should damn well know better.

195 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:16:01pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

This is interesting:

“Davy Crockett” W-54 nuclear warhead, 20 ton (NOT kiloton) yield.

Cute, isn’t it?
/sorry

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

gonna need one of those super-sized backpacks.
//I wish I was joking…

196 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:16:16pm

off to take my nap

197 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:17:16pm

re: #194 Schadenboner

He has enough that he should damn well know better.

Which, to a degree, makes him worse than someone spouting this crap out of ignorance. He is willfully choosing to sound like an ignoramus in order to pander to a political base.

198 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:17:18pm

re: #189 Dark_Falcon

To which I answer “Diane Feinstein brought an ‘assault weapons’ ban up for a vote in the Senate, and the Senate voted it down.”

Well gee, I guess we’ll never talk about any kind of gun control again, herp derp.

///

199 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:17:28pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

This is interesting:

“Davy Crockett” W-54 nuclear warhead, 20 ton (NOT kiloton) yield.

Cute, isn’t it?
/sorry

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

I might be wrong, but I believe that is a live warhead in the photo. This would explain why the suits appear to be so cautious about touching it.

200 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:17:32pm
201 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:17:36pm

Hey DD, that one’s for you!

Image: B-17_retrieval.jpg

After the Russians hastily abandoned a research station on a floating ice island in the heart of the Arctic in 1962, the U.S. Intelligence Community formulated a plan to retrieve any research that may have been left behind in an attempt to further evaluate the Arctic’s strategic value. Specialists parachuted down to the site, collected their materials, and then were Skyhooked out from a from a B-17.

More such paintings here.

202 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:18:45pm

Time for a cuteness break?

203 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:19:08pm

re: #192 Shiplord Kirel

He has experience, in field artillery specifically, but he knows his audience doesn’t.

Well, by experience I mean he’s been involved in working out all the possible outcomes of such a plan. When was the last time a nuclear state just set one off in another country just for the hell of it?

That he’s a major is frightening; that he’s been elected (for life, probably) is appalling.

204 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:19:25pm

re: #179 GeneJockey

No, no, you don’t understand! By pushing for a scientifically rational understanding of the origins of life on earth instead of a fairy tale from one holy book, you’re obviously going to make people believe in the same fairy tale in a somewhat longer version of the same holy book!

Actual post from an evangelical friend of mine on FB after he posted what amounted to the watchmaker analogy but with a computer instead of a watch:

Hi [redacted]…[redacted] pretty much summed it up. The reason I feel this is so important is that if you subscribe to the belief of evolution, then you have probably adopted a worldview that does not include God. It would be a great tragedy to me if there are people who are being called to know God, but have dismissed him as a myth or fairy tale because of the mythical non-scientific fairy tale of Darwinian evolution. Not only does this have a well known impact on your destination after this life is over, it has a profound impact on the quality of life you live here and now.

205 erik_t  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:19:49pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

Hey DD, that one’s for you!

Image: B-17_retrieval.jpg

More such paintings here.

Skyhook missions, to be quite frank, make Duncan Hunter sound sane.

206 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:22:36pm

re: #203 Skip Intro

Well, by experience I mean he’s been involved in working out all the possible outcomes of such a plan. When was the last time a nuclear state just set one off in another country just for the hell of it?

That he’s a major is frightening; that he’s been elected (for life, probably) is appalling.

Yeah, he’s wedged in between Pendleton and the Navy bases down in San Diego, so he’s probably going to be there for a while.

Image: CA_50th_109th_Congress.gif

207 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:22:40pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

This is interesting:

“Davy Crockett” W-54 nuclear warhead, 20 ton (NOT kiloton) yield.

Cute, isn’t it?
/sorry

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

The US Army Ordnance Museum (formerly in Aberdeen, MD - now shifted further south) had one of those and the recoil-less rifle launcher for it in their museum building. A picture of it should be in the Photobucket pages linked to my nick. Though it looks like I never uploaded it into my image library here.

208 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:22:49pm

re: #131 b.d.

I wonder what cartoon version of a liberal they will fill his slot with. MSNBC doesn’t have a old hippie host yet.

Yeah, if I thought they were trying to improve the level of discourse I would applaud the move but they’re just going to replce his show with another dopey show which is more or less the same. I didn’t find his comments outrageous or out of place with the rest of the network. They’re just going to rearrange the deck chairs.

209 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:22:49pm

re: #204 Lidane

Actual post from an evangelical friend of mine on FB after he posted what amounted to the watchmaker analogy but with a computer instead of a watch:

Yeah, the watchmaker analogy. Tell me when watches are self-replicating.

210 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:22:55pm

re: #205 erik_t

Skyhook missions, to be quite frank, make Duncan Hunter sound sane.

YES!!!! Everybody involved in the process (air and groundside) have to have their trouser specially tailored to hold the massive amounts of balls that has got to take.

I’ve gone hangliding off Lookout Mountain in Georgia, done a 100 foot cable lift from a Huey, and dated a girl AND her roommate, but I’d NEVER try that.

RBS

211 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:23:23pm

It’s not even a full moon…

212 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:23:33pm

re: #52 Charles Johnson

213 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:24:05pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Time for a cuteness break?

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My wife is shopping for dog beds, but this isn’t what we have in mind.

214 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:24:33pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not even a full moon…

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*headdesk*

215 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:25:46pm

re: #214 Targetpractice

*headdesk*

totally my reaction…hope our desks can hold up to the derp.

216 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:25:48pm

HURR HURR
What WON’T they bitch about?

217 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:26:44pm

re: #184 FemNaziBitch

ah!

See how simple it is to understand once a man has explained it?
//////////////////////please don’t hit me/////////////////////////////

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:27:03pm

re: #216 Lord of the Pies

HURR HURR
What WON’T they bitch about?

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SLUTZ!!! BOTH OF THEM!!11111

219 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:27:20pm

re: #216 Lord of the Pies

HURR HURR
What WON’T they bitch about?

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Beer on tap >> beer in bottles.

220 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:27:29pm

See, it’s funny because we strongly condemn Iran for having a nuclear program, to the point that some people don’t even think they should be allowed to develop nuclear power reactors like the rest of the industrialized world, while our representatives flippantly talk about nuking them.

221 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:27:31pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

Not much different than Mobile Infantry bug hunting on Big K and firing off shoulder-launched atomics. /

222 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:27:39pm

re: #217 GeneJockey

See how simple it is to understand once a man has explained it?
//////////////////////please don’t hit me/////////////////////////////

ooooh…you are soooo gonna get a trillion poop germs flung at you…

223 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:28:14pm

re: #216 Lord of the Pies

What makes that a facepalm is the fact he’s got a beer that came from the tap and she’s drinking a shitty corona.

224 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:28:25pm

re: #201 Dark_Falcon

Hey DD, that one’s for you!

Image: B-17_retrieval.jpg

More such paintings here.

Wow! Those are great, especially the disguised C-119 over Dien Bien Phu. This misguided, though supremely heroic, operation resulted in the death of the legendary James “Earthquake McGoon” McGovern, whose remains were finally recovered just a few years ago. It also resulted in 7 surviving CIA pilots being awarded the French Legion of Honor in 2005.

225 Skip Intro  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:28:32pm

re: #220 GunstarGreen

See, it’s funny because we strongly condemn Iran for having a nuclear program, to the point that some people don’t even think they should be allowed to develop nuclear power reactors like the rest of the industrialized world, while our representatives flippantly talk about nuking them.

That’s because we’re the responsible ones. Plus, we’re the only ones who have experience doing it.

226 Killgore Trout  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:28:59pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not even a full moon…

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I was reading about this the other day. There are elections coming up and Karzai probably won’t be in power much longer. the thinking is that we can just wait until after the election and make an agreement with his replacement.

227 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:29:05pm

re: #221 lawhawk

Not much different than Mobile Infantry bug hunting on Big K and firing off shoulder-launched atomics. /

Its fine when you’re using powered armor.

BMX armor? Not so much.

228 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:29:08pm

re: #215 Backwoods_Sleuth

totally my reaction…hope our desks can hold up to the derp.

Seriously, I understand the administration’s frustration over Karzai, I knew awhile back that the man was becoming more trouble than he was worth to us. But when you announce to the world that you don’t really need him to run the country, you might as well paint a target on his forehead.

229 Charles Johnson  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:29:32pm

Here’s an article about that photo of female Iranian journalists sitting on the floor in a room full of men seated on chairs: Female Journalists Sitting on Floor in Iran an Illustration of Gender Inequality?

230 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:29:48pm

re: #211 Backwoods_Sleuth

It’s not even a full moon…

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Kerry is outlining a way to do an end-run around Karzai. Karzai is the one who’d mount the coup, since he fears what will happen to him and his clan after he leaves the presidency. His not being president will cost his family a great deal of money and power and their enemies are bound to attack them once they are weakened.

SecState Kerry does not care too much about this nor should he. Karzai is a corrupt asshole who is of no further us to the USA. He’s no longer Our Son-of-a-Bitch, he’s now just a son-of-a-bitch.

231 RealityBasedSteve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:30:57pm

re: #228 Targetpractice

Seriously, I understand the administration’s frustration over Karzai, I knew awhile back that the man was becoming more trouble than he was worth to us. But when you announce to the world that you don’t really need him to run the country, you might as well paint a target on his forehead.

I’m sure I’ll be corrected if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that Karzai had pretty much gotten everything he wanted in the agreement, and then when it came time to sign it he had a fair number of ‘other conditions’ that he wanted.

RBS

232 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:31:20pm

re: #216 Lord of the Pies

He’s got his pinky up!!!! And you know what that means! Commie pinko!!!!!

233 Targetpractice  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:31:55pm

re: #227 Kragar

Its fine when you’re using powered armor.

BMX armor? Not so much.

Hey now, radiation and pressure waves are no issue for the fine white pretty boys they’re recruiting from Buenos Aires.

///

234 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:32:32pm

re: #221 lawhawk

Not much different than Mobile Infantry bug hunting on Big K and firing off shoulder-launched atomics. /

Except that those were ‘clean’ all-fusion weapons that did not produce notable fallout, and where further used on a planet the Federation did not plan on colonizing anyways.

/I know you were kidding.

235 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:33:16pm

re: #229 Charles Johnson

Here’s an article about that photo of female Iranian journalists sitting on the floor in a room full of men seated on chairs: Female Journalists Sitting on Floor in Iran an Illustration of Gender Inequality?

As CL has pointed out, there are some women seated but they have mostly been cropped out of the picture.

There are a bunch of men standing so it’s just as likely these ladies arrived late and all the seats were taken.

Iran probably does not have a tradition of men offering their seat to a lady—that tradition has largely been abandoned even in the US.

In the Mehr News Agency photo, you can see the edge of a women’s dress in the lower right corner where she was cropped out of the photo, and in the second photo these is a woman seated on the left who has also been partially cropped out.

236 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:33:20pm

re: #205 erik_t

Skyhook missions, to be quite frank, make Duncan Hunter sound sane.

They replaced the crazier Goodyear inflatable rescue plane:

Image: 5401d1262546889-inflatable-wings-low-aspect-light-weight-rubber2.jpg

237 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:33:46pm

re: #233 Targetpractice

Hey now, radiation and pressure waves are no issue for the fine white pretty boys they’re recruiting from Buenos Aires.

///

Come on you apes!! You want to live forever?
/Would you like to know more?!

238 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:34:39pm

re: #234 Dark_Falcon

Except that those were ‘clean’ all-fusion weapons that did not produce notable fallout, and where further used on a planet the Federation did not plan on colonizing anyways.

/I know you were kidding.

Best weapon ever.

“I’m a thirty second bomb! … I’m a 25 second bomb!”

239 klys  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:35:38pm

re: #235 Lord of the Pies

As CL has pointed out, there are some women seated but they have mostly been cropped out of the picture.

There are a bunch of men standing so it’s just as likely these ladies arrived late and all the seats were taken.

Iran probably does not have a tradition of men offering their seat to a lady—that tradition has largely been abandoned even in the US.

And, you know, these are actually women journalists allowed in to report on government events.

We have allies that are significantly worse at this.

240 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:37:04pm


Insert drug & alcohol use joke here.

241 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:37:32pm

re: #216 Lord of the Pies

If he was drinking the Corona, they’d whine that he hates American beer.

Also, you can try to drink a pint the same way that you chug a bottle of beer, but you’ll most likely end up wearing the pint and wasting better quality beer.

242 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:38:45pm

re: #210 RealityBasedSteve

YES!!!! Everybody involved in the process (air and groundside) have to have their trouser specially tailored to hold the massive amounts of balls that has got to take.

I’ve gone hangliding off Lookout Mountain in Georgia, done a 100 foot cable lift from a Huey, and dated a girl AND her roommate, but I’d NEVER try that.

RBS

It took no more balls for the B-17 pilot than did holding formation during Schweinfurt-Regensburg raid while the ME-110s attacked you head on with automatic cannons.

243 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:39:26pm

re: #240 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce


Insert drug & alcohol use joke here.

MP3 Audio

244 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:40:04pm

re: #137 Targetpractice

And the RWNJs add another scalp to their collection. Meanwhile, Rush The Hutt remains on the air and Faux has staff as well as “guests” who openly opine that the President is either guilty of treason or “dangerously close.”

Goddamn it.

And Sarah Palin never has to apologize for anything she says—ever. And plenty of what she has said should have shut her up for eternity.

245 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:40:09pm

re: #241 Lidane

If he was drinking the Corona, they’d whine that he hates American beer.

Also, you can try to drink a pint the same way that you chug a bottle of beer, but you’ll most likely end up wearing the pint and wasting better quality beer.

And if it was a high-alcohol beer, they’d say he’s a drunk. Haters gonna hate.

246 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:40:21pm

Dear god. A politician should not publically support nuclear war against a country!
These wingnuts are so inept, they have a bratty nine year olds view of the world and diplomacy.

247 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:40:24pm

re: #225 Skip Intro

Hey, I’m just sayin’. If I see some jerk walking down the street hopping a tire iron in his hands, you can bet your ass I’m going and getting my bat.

248 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:41:58pm

Another step closer to Israel taking over the world. Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman in the Superman/Batman movie.

249 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:42:12pm

re: #246 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Dear god. A politician should not publically support nuclear war against a country!
These wingnuts are so inept, they have a bratty nine year olds view of the world and diplomacy.

The bratty nine year old union called. They’re offended you compared them to the GOP. They’re way smarter than those icky poopy head dummy politicians.

250 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:42:49pm

re: #248 lawhawk

Another step closer to Israel taking over the world. Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman in the Superman/Batman movie.

She told us to wait.

251 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:43:31pm

re: #249 Lidane

I apologize to all bratty 9 year olds. That was a low, low blow.

252 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:43:54pm

re: #248 lawhawk

Another step closer to Israel taking over the world. Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman in the Superman/Batman movie.

I’d have gone with Noa Tishby personally.

253 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:43:56pm

re: #242 Dark_Falcon

It took no more balls for the B-17 pilot than did holding formation during Schweinfurt-Regensburg raid while the ME-110s attacked you head on with automatic cannons.

A useful thing to know is that then-Colonel Curtis LeMay lead the Regensburg attack. And he lead it as in “piloting the lead B-17F”. That’s a thing to remember about LeMay: He was no chickenhawk.

254 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:43:58pm

re: #240 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

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Insert drug & alcohol use joke here.

and underage girlfriend/wives…

255 blueraven  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:44:25pm

re: #239 klys

And, you know, these are actually women journalists allowed in to report on government events.

We have allies that are significantly worse at this.

Also, the HuffPo article with the photo is from August.

Yes, just a few months ago but as Rohani promises more equality for women, he was barely sworn in at the time.

256 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:44:33pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

Beat me to it!

257 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:44:46pm
258 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:45:07pm

re: #247 GunstarGreen

Hey, I’m just sayin’. If I see some jerk walking down the street hopping a tire iron in his hands, you can bet your ass I’m going and getting my bat.

you might need a bigger bat if the other guy has a tire iron…

259 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:46:02pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

and underage girlfriend/wives…

Not to mention relatives….

260 CuriousLurker  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:46:02pm

re: #235 Lord of the Pies

As CL has pointed out, there are some women seated but they have mostly been cropped out of the picture.

There are a bunch of men standing so it’s just as likely these ladies arrived late and all the seats were taken.

Iran probably does not have a tradition of men offering their seat to a lady—that tradition has largely been abandoned even in the US.

Actually they do have that tradition, or at least the guys I knew did. In fact, their etiquette is very complex—so much so that the formalities used to drive me freaking nuts sometimes. Turning your back towards somoene is considered extremely rude, so, as I said earlier, it was pretty douchey for those guys not to give up their seats (unless the women really insisted).1

————————————————————-

1. Upon apologizing for inadvertently “giving someone your back”, a (well-raised) Iranian man will say, “Gol posht o ru nadareh.” (Literally, “The flower has no front or back.”)

261 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:46:06pm

re: #256 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Beat me to it!

well, for Jerry Lee you could have added underaged girlfriend/wife/cousin…

262 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:46:51pm

re: #258 Backwoods_Sleuth

you might need a bigger bat if the other guy has a tire iron…

Haven’t you seen the cute little tire irons that come with most cars these days?

263 lawhawk  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:47:07pm

re: #252 Kragar

That’d be fine with me as well.

I also thought that Jaime Alexander would have been okay (she was Sif in the Thor movies), but that would have meant jumping from Marvel to DC, and that’s not a move to be taken lightly.

264 dog philosopher  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:47:44pm

re: #248 lawhawk

Another step closer to Israel taking over the world. Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman in the Superman/Batman movie.

when are they gonna do the movie version of batmensch and rubin?

265 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:47:46pm

re: #263 lawhawk

That’d be fine with me as well.

I also thought that Jaime Alexander would have been okay (she was Sif in the Thor movies), but that would have meant jumping from Marvel to DC, and that’s not a move to be taken lightly.

Just look at Bryan Reynolds.

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:47:53pm

re: #262 GeneJockey

Haven’t you seen the cute little tire irons that come with most cars these days?

true…but I don’t have a car. I have a pickup truck…

267 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:48:09pm

OK, something’s up in NYC

268 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:49:01pm

re: #237 lawhawk

Come on you apes!! You want to live forever?
/Would you like to know more?!

Why, yes, Sarge. I WOULD like to live forever!

269 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:49:58pm

re: #187 Shiplord Kirel

This is interesting:

“Davy Crockett” W-54 nuclear warhead, 20 ton (NOT kiloton) yield.

Cute, isn’t it?
/sorry

To the best of my knowledge this is the smallest nuclear device of which images have been publicly released (though there are almost certainly smaller ones).

Not very much smaller. There are real physical limits to how small a gadget can be and still detonate. Perhaps, if enough Californium were made but otherwise, that’s really close to the lower limit of physical possibility.

270 freetoken  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:49:59pm

The news of the publication of the results of the mtDNA from Sima de los Huesos is getting some press:

Leg bone gives up oldest human DNA

[…]

However, […] mtDNA is a small and unusual component of our genetic blueprint, from which only limited conclusions can be drawn. For example, no sign of the interbreeding we now know took place between Neanderthals and modern humans remains in the mtDNA of modern people.

To get the full picture, scientists had to sequence nuclear DNA (that kept in the nuclei of cells) from Neanderthals and compare it with that in present-day populations. Likewise, the true relationships between the Pit people and other ancient populations may only be known if and when nuclear DNA is available.

This will be a challenge given the age of the Spanish fossils, but their good state of preservation - largely a product of the fairly constant temperature inside the cave - gives hope.

“That is our next big thing here, to sequence at least part of the nuclear genome from the individual in the Sima de los Huesos,” Svante Paabo told BBC News.

The Max Plank Institute PR:

Oldest hominin DNA sequenced

[…]

From the missing mutations in the old DNA sequences the researchers calculated that the Sima hominin lived about 400,000 years ago. They also found that it shared a common ancestor with the Denisovans, an extinct archaic group from Asia related to the Neandertals, about 700,000 years ago. “The fact that the mtDNA of the Sima de los Huesos hominin shares a common ancestor with Denisovan rather than Neandertal mtDNAs is unexpected since its skeletal remains carry Neandertal-derived features”, says Matthias Meyer. Considering their age and Neandertal-like features, the Sima hominins were likely related to the population ancestral to both Neandertals and Denisovans. Another possibility is that gene flow from yet another group of hominins brought the Denisova-like mtDNA into the Sima hominins or their ancestors.

[…]

The paper in Nature:

A mitochondrial genome sequence of a hominin from Sima de los Huesos

There is a graph in the supplemental material, of the most likely phylogenetic tree of hominin mitochondrial relationships, illustrating where these cave bones fit wrt us (on the far right) and the chimp/bonobo rooted as the base of phylogenetic tree.

I doubt Eric son of Erick approves.

271 dog philosopher  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:50:31pm

re: #254 Backwoods_Sleuth

and underage girlfriend/wives…

i had a friend who was criticized for going out with women who his friends considered too young for him and he told them “hey i don’t carbon-14 date ‘em!”

272 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:50:36pm
273 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:51:50pm

re: #252 Kragar

Gadot is certainly beautiful, she’s just so skinny compared to the Wonder Woman type. She looks so frail.
Everything about Wonder Woman, to me, was always bigger than life. Her womanly figure, her height, her strong looking thighs and upper body.

274 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:52:35pm

re: #271 dog philosopher

i had a friend who was criticized for going out with women who his friends considered too young for him and he told them “hey i don’t carbon-14 date ‘em!”

But that only tells you when they died!
///

275 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:53:04pm

Something for Floral when she gets back.

276 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:54:04pm

CNN: NORAD’s Santa Claus Tracker Gets ‘Operational Feel’ Complete with F-18 Fighter Escort

It seems NORAD is worried about Putin sending MiG-31Ms to intercept Santa.

277 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:54:18pm

re: #273 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Gadot is certainly beautiful, she’s just so skinny compared to the Wonder Woman type. She looks so frail.
Everything about Wonder Woman, to me, was always bigger than life. Her womanly figure, her height, her strong looking thighs and upper body.

Yikes! Give that woman a sandwich!

278 Lidane  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:03pm
279 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:06pm

re: #273 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Gadot is certainly beautiful, she’s just so skinny compared to the Wonder Woman type. She looks so frail.
Everything about Wonder Woman, to me, was always bigger than life. Her womanly figure, her height, her strong looking thighs and upper body.

Actually, I’d say Gina Carano would have been the perfect Wonder Woman.

Image: 208215-the-body.jpg

280 Big Steve  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:41pm

So being the good citizen that I am, I went on the ACA website to shop today. I have insurance through COBRA from my former employer but it is expensive so I thought I would take a look. I know I will pay full freight on the ACA as well but hope that it might be less. The ACA site worked smoothly and oddly and kind of scarily it pulls up information that you haven’t provided yet. I gave it my SSN and it quickly asked me if the address it had was correct (it was). So I am shopping for a policy only for myself but it alertly noticed, when it asked permission to view my last year’s tax return, that I have two sons who are dependents on my taxes and are under 25. However said son’s are covered under my ex’s medical policy with her employer. However the ACA demands all sorts of information about my dependents (where they go to school, how much money do they make…..)and then recycles me back when I click the box saying I am not going to cover them and gives me error messages and tells me to try again. I have now thrice been through this DO Loop on the site and have given up.

281 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:44pm

re: #248 lawhawk

Another step closer to Israel taking over the world. Gal Gadot cast as Wonder Woman in the Superman/Batman movie.

Hmm. I never followed Wonder Woman comics, but I also never envisioned the character as having the physique of a bag of antlers.

282 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:49pm

re: #273 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Gadot is certainly beautiful, she’s just so skinny compared to the Wonder Woman type. She looks so frail.
Everything about Wonder Woman, to me, was always bigger than life. Her womanly figure, her height, her strong looking thighs and upper body.

SHE IS NOT A WONDER WOMAN WITHOUT THIGH GAP, THUNDER THIGHS MEANS JUST A FAT SLOB!!!!!11!!!!!

283 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:56:58pm

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

Time for a cuteness break?

[Kitty getting comfy on top of doggie.]

If dogs and cats can get cozy together, why is it so hard for humans from either different political or religious backgrounds to at the very least communicate about what makes them the same and or different?

284 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:57:30pm

re: #276 Dark_Falcon

CNN: NORAD’s Santa Claus Tracker Gets ‘Operational Feel’ Complete with F-18 Fighter Escort

It seems NORAD is worried about Putin sending MiG-31Ms to intercept Santa.

Gotta prepare for that WAR ON CHRISTMAS!!!1!!1!!!

285 Lord of the Pies  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:57:49pm

TEH MOAST SKINNIEST WOMEN IS TEH MOAST WONDERFUOL!!!!! NO FAT CHIX!!!!!!

286 GeneJockey  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:59:37pm

re: #283 ObserverArt

If dogs and cats can get cozy together, why is it so hard for humans from either different political or religious backgrounds to at the very least communicate about what makes them the same and or different?

Because animals are smart enough not to talk.

287 Political Atheist  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 12:59:54pm

re: #33 Targetpractice

Shit, if you don’t want to spend a couple minutes beating your head against a wall trying to explain just how fucked up an idea this is to the little douche nozzle, then hand him a copy of The Day After and don’t let him leave the room until after the credits stop rolling.

Or Threads. Scarier I thought.

Youtube Video

288 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:00:09pm

re: #279 Kragar

Actually, I’d say Gina Carano would have been the perfect Wonder Woman.

Image: 208215-the-body.jpg

Can’t have a powerfully-built woman in a mainstream American movie, ESPECIALLY not a mainstream American comic book movie. It would challenge the manliness of all the dudebros in attendance.

289 Kragar  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:00:35pm

re: #285 Lord of the Pies

TEH MOAST SKINNIEST WOMEN IS TEH MOAST WONDERFUOL!!!!! NO FAT CHIX!!!!!!

Sorry, I’m still stuck looking at Gina Carano. Did you say something?

290 Decatur Deb  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:02:03pm

re: #280 Big Steve

So being the good citizen that I am, I went on the ACA website to shop today. I have insurance through COBRA from my former employer but it is expensive so I thought I would take a look. I know I will pay full freight on the ACA as well but hope that it might be less. The ACA site worked smoothly and oddly and kind of scarily it pulls up information that you haven’t provided yet. I gave it my SSN and it quickly asked me if the address it had was correct (it was). So I am shopping for a policy only for myself but it alertly noticed, when it asked permission to view my last year’s tax return, that I have two sons who are dependents on my taxes and are under 25. However said son’s are covered under my ex’s medical policy with her employer. However the ACA demands all sorts of information about my dependents (where they go to school, how much money do they make…..)and then recycles me back when I click the box saying I am not going to cover them and gives me error messages and tells me to try again. I have now thrice been through this DO Loop on the site and have given up.

There will be an “Enroll America” or equivalent outreach organization in your state. Contact them to get your account straightened out. I encountered the same problem with a dependent loop, but that was earlier in the healthcare.gov saga.

enrollamerica.org

291 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:03:05pm

re: #273 LGF Subscription: Breathes Like Egyptian Cotton

Yeah, disappointing. Mainstream still doesn’t like genuinely strong women.

292 Bulworth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:03:56pm

re: #289 Kragar

More Gina Carano please.

293 GunstarGreen  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:05:35pm

re: #291 Bulworth

Yeah, disappointing. Mainstream still doesn’t like genuinely strong women.

Which is a damned shame, because there are few things in this world that are more attractive than natural strength, in my humble opinion.

294 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:12:35pm

re: #286 GeneJockey

Because animals are smart enough not to talk.

You obviously have not met the animals that share my house…

295 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:14:15pm

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

well, for Jerry Lee you could have added underaged girlfriend/wife/cousin…

Was Priscilla Presley underage too when they first met and hung out? I thought she was kept ‘hidden’ from the press and the fans for some time.

296 Feline Fearless Leader  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:14:48pm

re: #227 Kragar

Its fine when you’re using powered armor.

BMX armor? Not so much.

The backup plan to defeat the Bugs was infiltrating politicians in disguised as MI. Then when the brain bugs drained them the Bug Civilization would collapse in a spate of hearings about Bugghazi.
///

297 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:15:55pm

re: #290 Decatur Deb

There will be an “Enroll America” or equivalent outreach organization in your state. Contact them to get your account straightened out. I encountered the same problem with a dependent loop, but that was earlier in the healthcare.gov saga.

enrollamerica.org

and there is the 800 number:[no phone numbers allowed].
Lots of (mostly older) folks have a fear of the internet and they’ve had great success using the 800 number.

298 leftynyc  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:18:24pm

re: #244 Justanotherhuman

Goddamn it.

And Sarah Palin never has to apologize for anything she says—ever. And plenty of what she has said should have shut her up for eternity.

She did have to backtrack when she went after the Pope last week. I have no problem holding “my side” to a higher standard than rush/sean/bill. They’re trash.

299 wrenchwench  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:19:22pm

re: #294 Backwoods_Sleuth

You obviously have not met the animals that share my house…

One of my cats learned how to do an eyeroll. I swear.

300 ObserverArt  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:19:28pm

Conclusion: Big Nukes, little weenies.

And yes, I know he is probably tossing out red meat to nuts, but that is no way to politic. I am getting so sick of the Republicans digging deeper and deeper for voters. That makes him a little dick to me.

301 Backwoods_Sleuth  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:19:45pm

re: #295 ObserverArt

Was Priscilla Presley underage too when they first met and hung out? I thought she was kept ‘hidden’ from the press and the fans for some time.

She was 14 when they met and first dated in Germany. She was 17 when they got married.

302 AlexRogan  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:27:49pm

re: #9 Justanotherhuman

Anyone who advocates using a nuclear device either (a) doesn’t know anything about the consequences, (b) is certifiably insane, or (c) both.

Hunter is both.

Representative Duncan “Jack D. Ripper” Hunter, ladies and gentlemen.

303 danarchy  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 1:50:55pm

re: #219 GeneJockey

Beer on tap >> beer in bottles.

Depends on the beer, I’ll take a Smithwicks or a Bass in a bottle over bud light on tap every day of the week.

But Corona is just bad any way you deliver it. There is a reason they always put lime in those things. It’s to cover up the skunky flavor.

304 Justanotherhuman  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 2:03:27pm

re: #281 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce

Hmm. I never followed Wonder Woman comics, but I also never envisioned the character as having the physique of a bag of antlers.

From “Fast & Furious” to “Wonder Woman”? With Ben Affleck?

And yes, put on some muscle, at least. Image: gal-gadot-bikini.jpg

305 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 2:39:29pm

re: #275 Backwoods_Sleuth

Giggles! Thank you!

306 Kilroy01  Wed, Dec 4, 2013 3:00:50pm

And yes, put on some muscle, at least. Image: gal-gadot-bikini.jpg

Maybe they are going to use the same kind of CGI they did to make Captain America.. only in reverse.
“Get that gal a sandwich”


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